| toyowheelin | anyone remember how to check which version of kubuntu you are running | 00:14 |
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| toyowheelin | somee terminal command | 00:15 |
| toyowheelin | oh wait I found it | 00:16 |
| toyowheelin | lsb_release -r | 00:16 |
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| toyowheelin | not a whole lot of talk in here | 00:20 |
| bazhang | its the support channel, thats probably why | 00:20 |
| toyowheelin | oh | 00:20 |
| bazhang | you might want to try the various -offtopic channels for chit chat | 00:21 |
| toyowheelin | ah thanks | 00:21 |
| bazhang | xubuntu ubuntu lubuntu kubuntu-offtopic | 00:21 |
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| semitones | hey, i newly installed kubuntu, and one annoyance I've found so far is that if I'm downloading something in chromium, if the screensaver comes on, and I have to log back in, the download is "interrupted" and I can't resume. What's going on? Can I still have a blank screen after some period of time without interrupting the functions of the computer? | 01:41 |
| ssfdre38 | is the 11.10 on RC now or no? | 02:13 |
| SIR_Taco | ssfdre38: not that I've heard... but it's so close to release that it should be | 02:15 |
| ssfdre38 | well i looked on the wiki a week ago and it said that there will be one yesterday but today it got deleted | 02:15 |
| toyowheelin | :/ | 02:16 |
| ssfdre38 | i was going to do a video on it | 02:16 |
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| ssfdre38 | guess i have to wait till thursday or friday to do it | 02:17 |
| SIR_Taco | because? | 02:18 |
| Guest25031 | hi | 02:18 |
| ssfdre38 | there is no RC for 11.10 | 02:19 |
| SIR_Taco | ssfdre38: I guess it depends on what you want to cover in your video. But the (major) updates have slowed down in the last few weeks, and it seems more upkeep now | 02:20 |
| ssfdre38 | for me its first looks on the new features | 02:21 |
| toyowheelin | hmm yeah its odd that the beta 2 is still all you can download | 02:23 |
| SIR_Taco | well at the moment it's sitting at KDE 4.7.1 (if the looks are what you're after) | 02:23 |
| ssfdre38 | i know and i have beta2 and did a ubuntu first look i was going to do a RC first look on Kubuntu | 02:23 |
| avihay | semitones: that sounds wired. screen saver doesn't force me to log in every time, unless I unable a feature called screen lock, and even then, it doesn't log me out of my session. sounds like either the screen saver somehow crashes x when you leave it (not likely) or your computer goes into some sort of suspend mode and logs you off. | 02:24 |
| semitones | ok. I'm very new to kubuntu settings, so where would I find those types of options? | 02:25 |
| SIR_Taco | sorry... 4.7.2 | 02:25 |
| avihay | ok, you find them all in the setting manager, under display->screensaver and under power managment | 02:26 |
| SIR_Taco | looks as though they're trying to rush a KDE version into 11.10 ;) | 02:27 |
| avihay | let;s have a look at the screen-saver crashing X theory | 02:28 |
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| semitones | how should we look at that | 02:33 |
| SIR_Taco | angily I would imagine | 02:34 |
| semitones | I do have lock screen on resume | 02:34 |
| SIR_Taco | semitones: is it sleeping and/or hibernating? | 02:35 |
| semitones | i don't think so. in gnome, if my computer slept, it usually would not wake up | 02:36 |
| semitones | so to speak | 02:36 |
| SIR_Taco | ok... are you using Gnome or KDE? | 02:37 |
| avihay | you can test the screen saver, is require password after: ticked? if so, remove the tick, and press test, hit a key, then readd the tick and press test, otherwise, just test | 02:37 |
| semitones | ok i'll give that a shot | 02:38 |
| avihay | I'd be happy if tasco will take over, I wanna try to sleep a little extra | 02:38 |
| semitones | hhehe, no worries here :) thanks | 02:38 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: me too... but I'll take over I guess haha | 02:38 |
| avihay | onle selept for three hours... :-< | 02:39 |
| avihay | slept | 02:39 |
| SIR_Taco | you don't want to know what I do... lol | 02:40 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: go to bed | 02:40 |
| semitones | night night | 02:40 |
| avihay | I am, but I set up notifications so that the computer reads messages addressed to me out loud, computer too close to bed... | 02:41 |
| SIR_Taco | haha | 02:42 |
| SIR_Taco | semitones: anyway.... it sounds like, if chrome quits/suspends downloads when you're away from your computer, you're going into sleep or hibernation mode (ie chrome is suspended and/or can't write to disk) | 02:44 |
| semitones | then maybe it is going into sleep mode, but if so, 1. Sleep Works (hooray!) and 2. Some setting not in power management is causing it to sleep. | 02:45 |
| SIR_Taco | do the fans in your tower turn off? | 02:46 |
| semitones | it is a laptop. I don't know if they do or not, hang on (i have screensaver set to 1 minute now.) | 02:49 |
| SIR_Taco | ok | 02:49 |
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| SIR_Taco | semitones: no stop of the download(s)? | 02:54 |
| semitones | the fans don't stop, neither does the screen turn off, it just goes black | 02:58 |
| semitones | I'll try downloading soemthing again | 02:58 |
| semitones | alright i'll let it sleep | 02:59 |
| SIR_Taco | how long did you leave it before when you came back to see your downloads stopped? | 03:01 |
| semitones | maybe 10 minutes | 03:04 |
| semitones | the plug was unplugged though, i also had screen lock enabled, which I don't anymore | 03:04 |
| SIR_Taco | screen lock shouldn't have anything to do with it. But having the power cable unplugged will put the laptop into a different power profile and it likely went to sleep/hibernate | 03:07 |
| SIR_Taco | by default that is | 03:07 |
| semitones | ok that makes sense. thanks for your help :) | 03:07 |
| SIR_Taco | semitones: not a problem | 03:07 |
| semitones | also do you know how to make screen edges turn off the screen? | 03:07 |
| semitones | I don't see that as an option under the screen edge settings | 03:08 |
| SIR_Taco | go to the K menu -> Computer -> System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Screen Edges... click the edge you want and select the action you want | 03:10 |
| SIR_Taco | if you set it to 'lock screen' it should turn off the screen in a couple minutes | 03:12 |
| tomas__ | Hello, can someone help me with a problem installing Kubuntu 11.04? | 05:15 |
| tomas__ | Hi, g0rs, my problem is I get to 75% install then an error saying "An error occured while removing packages, the following packages are broken: " then a blank list, and installation freezes | 05:22 |
| tomas__ | Ack, sorry the installer rebooted me | 05:27 |
| g0rs | tomas__: no problem | 05:33 |
| g0rs | tomas__: are you installing with a cd or via usb or ftp? | 05:34 |
| tomas__ | When it did reboot, I got a grub error 15.... and I thought this was going to be simpler than gentoo.... | 05:34 |
| tomas__ | CD | 05:34 |
| g0rs | tomas__: it is very simple, perhahs its a cd issue? is it a good idea to burn the image on a usb drive and install everything via usb? i did install with usb. | 05:35 |
| tomas__ | Hmmm.... don't have one handy. | 05:36 |
| tomas__ | ^The CD checks out ok.... this is weird | 05:36 |
| g0rs | tomas__: do you have network access ? | 05:36 |
| tomas__ | To what exactly? | 05:37 |
| g0rs | tomas__: i dont know if its a package issue or if the cd was not burned correctly. perhaps you can try buring a minimal image and installing everything via your LAN | 05:38 |
| tomas__ | Hmmm... i'll check it out, thanks | 05:39 |
| g0rs | tomas__: probably that would be the easiest instead of finding out whats wrong with your current approach | 05:39 |
| tomas__ | cool man | 05:39 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Need help regarding regarding nepomuk/strigi | 05:52 |
| claydoh | phoenix_firebrd: ask away | 05:57 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: left my pc ON for the whole night for strigi to index my file on the morning , i saw it was crashed, i saw a bug report regarding it previously, is the problem fixed or is there a workaround | 05:59 |
| claydoh | dunno, what bug report? | 05:59 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: i think this a similar one, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=276306 | 06:01 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 276306 in general "Crash coming out of standby" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 06:01 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: do you use strigi to index files? | 06:03 |
| claydoh | no, though I have had it enabled at times. | 06:04 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: any solution | 06:06 |
| claydoh | phoenix_firebrd: which version KDE? This issue from digging through all the duplicate reports may be fixed in 4.7 ( so natty or oneiric) | 06:08 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: sorry , forgot to tell you, i am using kubuntu 11.10 beta 2 with kde 4.7.1 | 06:09 |
| claydoh | ditto here, I don't have the issue here. Perhaps for the initial index, let it stay awake maybe? iirc once the major indexing is done, it doesn't have to run constantly | 06:11 |
| claydoh | I can | 06:11 |
| claydoh | I can't get it to crash here on one of my systems , but it really hasn't run long enough | 06:12 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: Are you trueg ? | 06:12 |
| claydoh | lol no | 06:13 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: ok | 06:13 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: that fellow told the same thing in a post, i agree with that, its just this one bug | 06:13 |
| claydoh | hard to track if it is hard to reproduce :( | 06:17 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: ya | 06:19 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: the update-apt-xapi , takes a lot of cpu and sometime, the system hangs, any solution? | 06:21 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: update-apt-xapi ->process | 06:22 |
| claydoh | phoenix_firebrd: dunno, i don't get hangs, tho it does slow for a spell, but my main laptop is slightly older, my reeeeaaaally old laptop just slows for a spell | 06:24 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: what is that process actually for? | 06:25 |
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| claydoh | phoenix_firebrd: it indexes the apt database for the software center, for all the info | 06:28 |
| claydoh | and muon | 06:28 |
| * claydoh sleeps now, pretty late :( | 06:30 | |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: ok, thank you , good night | 06:30 |
| claydoh | phoenix_firebrd: maybe others can chime in, too :) | 06:31 |
| phoenix_firebrd | claydoh: ya | 06:31 |
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| se7en | how can i share a folder so windows can access them? | 08:43 |
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| szal | !samba | se7en | 09:45 |
| ubottu | se7en: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. | 09:45 |
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| dthacker | Looks like flash is broken again. In the past I've gotten around this by uninstalling and reinstalling flashplugin-installer. THis time it's not working. Any other tips? | 12:17 |
| yofel | a) define broken b) which release? | 12:23 |
| GirlyGirl | dthacker: What do you mean broken?? | 12:29 |
| dthacker | GirlyGirl: brb, need to restart for applying updates :) | 12:29 |
| Carnage__ | Hey guys. I've installed quite a few kde updates earlier this morning and after rebooting and logging in, I'm only presented with a grey screen now. Nothing is happing, I can only kill the kdm to get back to the login screen... | 12:29 |
| Carnage__ | Has anyone had that problem with the recent updates too? Any ideas what could cause them and how I can fix them? | 12:30 |
| Carnage__ | Oh yes, I have Kubuntu 11.04 with default repositories | 12:30 |
| GirlyGirl | Carnage__: Does it switch back to kdm on its own | 12:31 |
| Carnage__ | Nope, it just remains grey | 12:32 |
| Carnage__ | I checked .xsession-errors but it did not come up with something useful. | 12:32 |
| GirlyGirl | Carnage__: Pressing ALT + F2 shows you a run dialog | 12:32 |
| Carnage__ | xorg.log is fine since kdm starts properly, things just get screwed up after login | 12:32 |
| Carnage__ | Nope, I cannot do anything at all apart from changing to a tty or killing kdm | 12:33 |
| dthacker | and.....I'm back! | 12:33 |
| GirlyGirl | Carnage__: Do you have any important settings in KDE that you need, would you like to set defaults? | 12:34 |
| Carnage__ | I already created a new account but after logging in, the behavior is exactly the same | 12:35 |
| Carnage__ | So it does not seem to be a user setting but rather a kde problem | 12:35 |
| yofel | Carnage__: can you pastebin the .xsession-error from the new account? | 12:35 |
| dthacker | I am receiving the "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page". Click on "install missing plugins" and I get Adobe flash installer. Click on that and it says "Already installed" | 12:35 |
| yofel | pastebinit can do it from the command line | 12:35 |
| dthacker | I've tried uninstalling flashplugin-installer and re-installing with KpackageKit, That has worked in the past, but not this time. | 12:36 |
| GirlyGirl | yofel: For some reason some packages stupidly make apt remove kde-base-workspace somethimes ... I had this problem recently when but that was not with upgrading to 4..6.5 | 12:37 |
| dthacker | Is there another package I should be poking at? | 12:38 |
| GirlyGirl | I assume Carnage__ is going to 4.6.5 as it just went to natty updates | 12:38 |
| yofel | GirlyGirl: is that with 4.6.5 or 4.7.X ? | 12:38 |
| GirlyGirl | 4.7X | 12:38 |
| yofel | then that's fine, kdebase-workspace is kde-workspace in 4.7 | 12:38 |
| GirlyGirl | yofel: Sorry I meant kde-workspace ... it got removed and killed the system had to manually install it from CLI | 12:39 |
| yofel | ok, *that*s shouldn't have happened | 12:39 |
| yofel | *that | 12:39 |
| dthacker | kpackagekit shows flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree installed. | 12:41 |
| GirlyGirl | dthacker: Does flash not work with all browsers? | 12:41 |
| yofel | GirlyGirl: got the apt history from when it did that? | 12:41 |
| GirlyGirl | yofel: Sorry no | 12:42 |
| dthacker | GirlyGirl: I will check another browser now... | 12:42 |
| yofel | k | 12:42 |
| GirlyGirl | yofel: I think it was suggested for removal with one of the kde wallpapers packages or something | 12:42 |
| dthacker | GirlyGirl: rekonq shows same error... | 12:42 |
| yofel | no idea without logs, we do upgrade tests before we release the packages, and this never happened there | 12:43 |
| GirlyGirl | yofel: Anyway its no big deal 4.7 isn't in the oficial release or something, people using backports do expect such stuff now and then | 12:44 |
| GirlyGirl | dthacker: What error? | 12:44 |
| dthacker | GirlyGirl: "you need to upgrade your Adobe flash player" | 12:45 |
| yofel | there was a recent release of flash from adobe, natty wasn't updated yet from what I see | 12:46 |
| GirlyGirl | Flash 11 | 12:46 |
| dthacker | I'm on 10.04 for another week...... | 12:46 |
| GirlyGirl | dthacker: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=21432 | 12:46 |
| dthacker | GirlyGirl: thanks, reading... | 12:47 |
| Carnage__ | Sorry guys, I'm on the phone, I'll get back to you in a minute | 12:47 |
| dthacker | Would you recommend unintalling before trying that PPA? | 12:48 |
| dthacker | uninstalling even :) | 12:48 |
| GirlyGirl | dthacker: I don't know I get this problem on Windows ... IE will say old version but FF works fine | 12:49 |
| dthacker | GirlyGirl: hehe. I get this about every six months. This time it's just been more effort to fix. Kubuntu works pretty well and makes me lazy | 12:50 |
| dthacker | Ok, new ppa added, but not seeing packanges for maverick. I wonder if they made one. | 12:53 |
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| no||shutdown | hi | 12:55 |
| Carnage__ | yofel, GirlyGirl: I have to boot Kubuntu again, I'll be back in a bit, I'll see if I have to reinstall kde-base-workspace | 12:56 |
| no||shutdown | can someone give me a hand with Kwin? | 12:56 |
| no||shutdown | hey GirlyGirl | 12:56 |
| omega__ | hi | 12:57 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Describe the problem | 12:57 |
| no||shutdown | GG - i have 1 laptop lcd and 1 standard lcd, their preferred settings are 1280x800 and 1280x1024, saving these settings to be loaded at boot is what i'm after | 12:58 |
| no||shutdown | GG i have to use xRandR to adapt these settings in the CLI | 12:58 |
| omega__ | someone can point me to a good tutorial for start to develop android apps with kdevelop? | 12:58 |
| no||shutdown | GG but i want to save these settings so i don't have to redo them | 12:58 |
| no||shutdown | i have no ./xprofile file from what i can see | 12:58 |
| no||shutdown | thats all | 12:58 |
| no||shutdown | i'd also like to get to the bottom of the OpenGL issues with these monitors, seeing as the shaders will only load in the standard config, not in the config i want, saying my OpenGl package is unsafe to use. | 12:59 |
| no||shutdown | thats my goal for this attempt :] | 12:59 |
| no||shutdown | i am reading http://userbase.kde.org/KWin | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:00 |
| omega__ | hi BluesKaj | 13:01 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Doesn't display settings sort the monitor fine? | 13:01 |
| sancochito | hi | 13:01 |
| BluesKaj | hi omega__ | 13:01 |
| sancochito | how can I change the background colour in irc quassel please? | 13:01 |
| dthacker | when I run sudo apt-get update its putting ign in front of my newly added ppa. Does ign mean ignore? | 13:01 |
| no||shutdown | Girly yes but I have to reconfigure every time i log | 13:01 |
| no||shutdown | girly i need to find a file which has the default config already | 13:01 |
| no||shutdown | girly - i think by finding that file that i'll be able to enter the proper settings, save them and never have to care again | 13:02 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Normally if you do not unplug monitors it should keep the config | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | dthacker, yes , nothing vailable | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | available | 13:02 |
| no||shutdown | girly - not in this case. | 13:02 |
| Carnage__ | Hey guys, I'm back. I reinstalled kdebase-workspace but it did not help. That's my .xsession-errors, nothing more: http://pastebin.com/yC1SsDvn | 13:02 |
| no||shutdown | girly - i start with 1024x768 on both monitors, the lcd a clone of the laptop-lcd | 13:02 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Also you can press G and tab to auto complete my nick name its easier as it sends an attention request | 13:02 |
| Carnage__ | I wonder why I get an openbox-message in there... | 13:02 |
| dthacker | BluesKaj: I see a plublished package for Maverick (what I'm running) in the PPA. | 13:03 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: ok, you see after i change the settings with xRandR the modes Kwin was installed in change and i lose window effects | 13:03 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: just want to properly configure it and save it. | 13:03 |
| dthacker | https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash | 13:03 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: What graphic card do you have | 13:04 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: Intel GMA 950 | 13:04 |
| omega__ | do you know a good tutorial for s platform?tating developing android apps using kubuntu (kdevelop) as development | 13:04 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Give me a sec I have the same card let me check | 13:04 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: thanks :] | 13:04 |
| dthacker | omega__: many seem to favor using Eclipse. | 13:05 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Ok Press ALT + F2 and type "kdesu kate /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup" | 13:05 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: then press enter | 13:06 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: window pops up and then disappears | 13:06 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: followed by a nice sound | 13:06 |
| omega__ | thankyou dthacker! I know...but kdevelop is faster and more integrated than a Java program like Eclipse. And I always have programs with Open SDK and oracle Java SDK... | 13:06 |
| omega__ | in eclipese of course.. | 13:07 |
| BluesKaj | dthacker, ahh yeah , that one is problematic ..not sure if it's been replaced in the repos ..I tried to install that flash version from that ppa yesterday and i had to apt-get install , check your flash version after installing | 13:07 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Ok then run the same thing with "kwrite" in place of "kate" | 13:07 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Ok then run the same thing with "kwrite" in place of "kate" and kdesudo in place of kdesu | 13:07 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Which version of Kubuntu is this | 13:07 |
| dthacker | BluesKaj: did you pull from that PPA or just regular repository? | 13:07 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: now i see the Xsetup config file :) making progress | 13:08 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Which version of Kubuntu is this? | 13:08 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: file is no longer Read-Only | 13:08 |
| BluesKaj | dthacker, not sure , I haven't checked the versions yet | 13:08 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: its Backtrack 5r1 | 13:08 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: KDE4 | 13:08 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Open konsole press help > About KDE | 13:09 |
| dthacker | BluesKaj: ok, I'm going to uninstall/reinstall and check versions. Back in a few.... | 13:09 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: ver 4.5.3 | 13:09 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: This is precisely why I dislike people using backtrack and comming to Ubuntu support ... that release is very old .. it has a bug that causes this ... has been fixed not in Kubuntu but you use backtrack | 13:10 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: understood | 13:10 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: i can feel that. | 13:10 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: anyways appending the line "xrandr --output DVI-1 --auto --right-of DVI-0" in the xsetup file will fix it | 13:10 |
| hume | hi... I'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a brand new Samsung 9-series. In gome, it connects nicely to the wifi network, but in kubuntu it does not connect. any ideas on this? what to do/check? | 13:10 |
| BluesKaj | dthacker, I checked synaptic and version number is 11.0.1.129-0ubuntu0~sevenmachines1 , same as the ppa | 13:11 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: alright, in this file xRandR settings are saved, I assume using the # before the command? | 13:11 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Anyways I advice you to go to Kubuntu Oneric when it comes out on the 17th ... that comes with KDE 4.7.2 which is years ahead in bug fixes and features | 13:11 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: no # | 13:11 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: thanks alot :] | 13:12 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: any idea on the OpenGL packages, since we have the same gpu? | 13:12 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: i just didn't know about Kesu,thats why ;) | 13:12 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: thanks again. | 13:12 |
| Carnage__ | GirlyGirl: Any ideas with respect to my problem of the grey screen after logging in? My .xsession-errors is not really helpful http://pastebin.com/yC1SsDvn Though I wonder why something related to openbox is in there... | 13:12 |
| GirlyGirl | Carnage__: You have openbox? | 13:13 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Is it working now? | 13:13 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: i'm working on the commands atm | 13:13 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: am going to define both monitors statically the file | 13:13 |
| Carnage__ | GirlyGirl: I use KDE, but I have openbox installed to use it for a separate xserver on my TV | 13:14 |
| Carnage__ | And this setup used to work without any problems, until this morning... | 13:14 |
| GirlyGirl | Carnage__: Try a simple "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" | 13:14 |
| Carnage__ | Ok, will do, brb :) | 13:14 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: As to why anyone would still use KDE 4.5.3 I have no clue ... Clearly backtrack cannot keep up with maintaining packages | 13:16 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: and when it comes to updating KDE? | 13:16 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: this is a fresh install, i will run the standard update packages, nm | 13:17 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: there are loads of update packages to be installed | 13:17 |
| dthacker | looks like I'm trying to grab a version 10 update and failing.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/704431/ | 13:18 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: KDE will still remain "back" in "backtrack" | 13:18 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: otherwise, about the Xsetup doc, the commands themselves on a new line, are there any delimeters ; or , etc? | 13:19 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: new line | 13:19 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: GirlyGirl which version of kubuntu are you using? | 13:20 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: KDE also | 13:20 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Depends where on one system Natt 11.04 on another Oneric Beta 2 | 13:20 |
| Carnage\ | GirlyGirl: Got it back working :) | 13:20 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: 4.71 and 4.7.2 | 13:20 |
| Carnage\ | For whatever weird reason, x-window-manager got configured to openbox | 13:21 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: 4.5X is like 2 years back | 13:21 |
| Carnage\ | by the update... | 13:21 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: 4.7.2 should be available on apt-get ? | 13:21 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: No not yet on oneirc only it isn't there yet I compiled it | 13:21 |
| Carnage\ | As it seems, kde-window-manager does not set the alternative properly on post-install... | 13:21 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: i will fix this boot file and take a good look at the various components, I know your probably wondering why i'm using backtrack? there is a valid point ;) | 13:21 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: i'm well aware there higher grade versions available, i should be able to cross install/compile this | 13:22 |
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| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: i should be able to improve all of this, or are their limitations in your knowledge? | 13:22 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Old components of backtrack will give you are hard time with dependancies | 13:23 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: have noticed. | 13:23 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Besides the current Intel video driver on backtrack will not work well with 4.7X | 13:24 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: Why do you use it anyway | 13:24 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: *sigh* because its all the rage | 13:24 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: actually, i have some work related projects requiring the aircrack program set | 13:24 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: You can install that on Kubuntu as well | 13:25 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: i was running all this on a vm, but i decided to install the OS, because of performance issues | 13:25 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: well aware of that | 13:25 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: so when it comes to my video card, and dual core intel cpu's, which version would you recommend for a clean install? | 13:25 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: If backtrack wanted to do something sensible they should have just made a ppa with a meta package that modifes ubuntu | 13:26 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: i don't mind booting a different version, the point is to get the the best performance out of my laptop! | 13:26 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: wait for oneric | 13:26 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: nothing sensible about this OS, childish more like :P | 13:26 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: this nonsense needs to be ready by monday. | 13:26 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: :) | 13:26 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: or install 11.04 and put kde 4.7.1 will fix graphic issue in 4.6X http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7.1 | 13:27 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: ill take a look | 13:28 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: thanks :) | 13:28 |
| GirlyGirl | no||shutdown: No problem | 13:28 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: brb, going to verify this Xsetup config | 13:28 |
| no||shutdown | lol | 13:31 |
| no||shutdown | GirlyGirl: nope :] | 13:31 |
| no||shutdown | anyway lets take a look at a reasonable install | 13:32 |
| shallwe | hi guys | 14:05 |
| shallwe | someone are using kubuntu 11.10 version netbook ? | 14:05 |
| shallwe | im lost on this version hahaha, i cant find the main menu for installed programs :( | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | shallwe, ask in#ubuntu+1 | 14:06 |
| shallwe | BluesKaj: ty :D | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | err #ubuntu+1 | 14:07 |
| OerHeks | i guess there is no netbook version anymore .. | 14:08 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, I wasn't sure ...i think there's netbook login option | 14:09 |
| BluesKaj | OerHeks, , but don't quote me :) | 14:09 |
| shallwe | yes theres a version for netbok | 14:09 |
| shallwe | im using :D i guess o.O | 14:10 |
| shallwe | cuz theres only 1 bar now on top | 14:10 |
| shallwe | like unity | 14:10 |
| dthacker | Ok, grandchild duty is done for awhile. | 14:10 |
| dthacker | BluesKaj: you said current version of flash is 11.01.29. Even after apt-get update, I'm attemptiing to download 10.3.183. How can I correct that? | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | dthacker, sorry I forgot to mention I'm using the 11.10 Oneiric ppa | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | "yours may be bifferent" | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | err different | 14:16 |
| dthacker | BluesKaj: oops :) I don't think I want to upgrade today.... | 14:17 |
| dthacker | I was going to wait for the official release... | 14:17 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, that's on thurs | 14:17 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| mr-rich | Can someone tell me why (k)ubuntu has not updated LibreOffice to 3.4.3? | 14:42 |
| darthanubis | mr-rich: your just using the wrong version. Kubuntu has | 14:51 |
| darthanubis | Kubuntu Beta2 that is;) | 14:52 |
| mr-rich | darthanubis: I'm using Kubuntu 11.04 | 14:52 |
| mr-rich | 11.10 is due out soon ... | 14:52 |
| darthanubis | I said Beta2 my friend | 14:52 |
| darthanubis | this month | 14:52 |
| darthanubis | I using it now, love it! | 14:53 |
| darthanubis | and I checked for you, yeah LO 3.43 | 14:53 |
| darthanubis | I did a clean install btw | 14:54 |
| darthanubis | I never upgrade to beta, I used to, but stopped. | 14:54 |
| darthanubis | Uprgading to final is alright I supposed | 14:55 |
| darthanubis | -d | 14:55 |
| === insegnante is now known as markit | ||
| mr-rich | darthanubis: Kubuntu is my main OS ... I have everything on here. Clean installs would mean loosing everything or spending countless hours recovering from backups. I'll wait and "upgrade" to 11.10 when it's out ... | 15:04 |
| mr-rich | I use Windows as little as possable ... | 15:04 |
| mr-rich | I used to use Fedora, but upgrades would often break stuff since it was bleeding edge. (k)ubuntu is a a lot more stable and upgrades are smooth(er) ... | 15:06 |
| darthanubis | I never lose anything and it never takes hours to do such a thing, since I have seperate drives and partiitions for my work. /home stays put the only thing that gets formatted is / and /boot. | 15:07 |
| darthanubis | Plan your drives and partitions for such things as early upgrades in the future | 15:08 |
| darthanubis | peace | 15:08 |
| darthanubis | or you can always add a PPA to get the latest software which is great about Ubuntus | 15:08 |
| darthanubis | https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa | 15:09 |
| darthanubis | mr-rich: you get that link? | 15:22 |
| mr-rich | Yes ... thank you. | 15:22 |
| kaddi | hi, could someone take a look at dmesg output on a external hard drive and let me know if i'm looking at a failing hard drive or not? | 15:26 |
| kaddi | that's what I get when I connect the drive (without trying to mount it): http://pastebin.com/eStPFnaM Mounting fails | 15:27 |
| darthanubis | kaddi: nothing but fail there | 15:28 |
| kaddi | fail as in hardware fail or corrupt patrition table or other? | 15:29 |
| darthanubis | the partition has not even mounted yet, so I'd go with H/W fail | 15:29 |
| kaddi | you know of a tool to confirm/test for that? (with ubuntu) | 15:30 |
| darthanubis | can't test what aint connected | 15:30 |
| darthanubis | you are looking at your test results | 15:30 |
| kaddi | it is connected, it's just not mounted | 15:30 |
| kaddi | ubuntu recognized the drive just fine, also sees the partition on it, just not mounting it | 15:31 |
| darthanubis | it is not "connected" as far as the system is concerned | 15:31 |
| kaddi | the system is seeing the drive | 15:31 |
| darthanubis | but no data can be read | 15:31 |
| darthanubis | or written | 15:31 |
| darthanubis | a drive that cannot read or write is no longer a working drive | 15:31 |
| kaddi | yes, but I want to find out if that is because it's not partitioned correctly or if it is due to a hardware issue | 15:32 |
| darthanubis | if you do get it do function again, it won't be long before it completely crashes | 15:32 |
| kaddi | an unpartitionned drive can not be read or written to eiter | 15:32 |
| darthanubis | has nothing to do with the partition | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | kaddi, then try this : mount -o remount,rw /path/to/drive | 15:32 |
| darthanubis | an unpartitioned drive alaso does not give buffer i/o errors either | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 15:34 |
| kaddi | ty | 15:34 |
| kaddi | it mounted | 15:34 |
| kaddi | backing up now... :) | 15:40 |
| === cyl_ is now known as Guest87919 | ||
| BarkingFish | Hi guys. I've asked this in #kde and #solid, neither seem to know, so I'll bring it here and see if someone can help me out. | 15:51 |
| BarkingFish | I have network manager running, I have a brilliant wifi signal, and obviously I'm connected to the net :) But network manager's graph which shows me incoming and outgoing signal is totally flatlined. It's literally showing no traffic whatsoever. | 15:52 |
| BarkingFish | KDE 4.7.1, Kubuntu 11.04, and my Wifi is on a USB stick (AR5523, Siemens Gigaset USB 108, over ndiswrapper) | 15:52 |
| BarkingFish | Anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing this? It worked perfectly prior to a kernel change from 2.6.38-11-generic, to the pae version of the same kernel | 15:54 |
| OerHeks | BarkingFish, did you try a speedtest ? | 15:56 |
| OerHeks | just using IRC would give not much datatraffic | 15:56 |
| BarkingFish | I'm not just using IRC, OerHeks | 15:57 |
| BarkingFish | I have firefox open too, and I'm surfing some high intensity websites, a lot of flash, streaming video and so on | 15:57 |
| BarkingFish | NM is still flatlined | 15:57 |
| utusan | .j #kubuntu-devel | 16:13 |
| === wander is now known as mach | ||
| mach | hellu | 16:32 |
| === mach is now known as cod3name47 | ||
| BarkingFish | hi cod3name47 :) | 16:33 |
| cod3name47 | whats up? | 16:33 |
| gedO | Hi | 16:42 |
| gedO | Guys, I have problem with Skype | 16:42 |
| gedO | Skype always starts up whene I log in | 16:42 |
| gedO | how to disable that? | 16:42 |
| gedO | somebody | 16:43 |
| gedO | Guys, how to disable skype from starting up at log in?? | 16:45 |
| === claydoh is now known as claydroid | ||
| yofel | gedO: Either check systemsettings -> Startup and shutdown if it's in autostart, or if it isn't then make sure it's not running at logout | 17:04 |
| monsinior | Esos | 17:10 |
| [Raiden] | kde 4.7.2 fall into release? | 17:59 |
| OerHeks | yes, as an update, i read | 17:59 |
| [Raiden] | ok | 17:59 |
| avihay | gedO: I think you need to logout and select settings from the login screen | 18:12 |
| n8w | does any of u have been experiencing cpu freq lock(800Mhz in my case) in 11.04? | 18:26 |
| BarkingFish | !info network manager natty | 18:34 |
| ubottu | 'manager' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable | 18:34 |
| BarkingFish | !info network-manager natty | 18:34 |
| ubottu | network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 438 kB, installed size 1472 kB | 18:35 |
| wolfroms | so im running kubuntu and for some reason icant get sound out of my headphoines/speakers. i had sound when i had my tv hooked up via hdmi | 18:35 |
| BarkingFish | !info network-manager natty-proposed | 18:36 |
| ubottu | Package network-manager does not exist in natty-proposed | 18:36 |
| n8w | does any of u have been experiencing cpu freq lock(800Mhz in my case) in 11.04? | 18:40 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: no, is this a laptop? | 18:44 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: ye... | 18:44 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: Install "powertop" and run that in terminal | 18:44 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: See what output it gives | 18:45 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: it feels like it doesnt know that it bein powered ... | 18:45 |
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| n8w | GirlyGirl: ye ive got the output...what do u wanna know?:)) i mean yes it shows 3 freqs avaiable,but its bein locked on the lowest one | 18:48 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: What CPU is this | 18:49 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: c2d 2ghz | 18:50 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: when i start the system it works just fine,but after some time it locks on 800mhz | 18:51 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: http://pastebin.com/JvpqaarZ | 18:52 |
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| GirlyGirl | n8w: Do you find any bottleneck performance wise? | 18:54 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: r u kiddin me? | 18:55 |
| GirlyGirl | no | 18:55 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: fcourse i do...its a big difference rtunnin it on 2ghz n 800mhz | 18:56 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: Is your power profile on performance | 18:57 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: the thing is that it doesnt kick up when no power avaiable..it keeps runin on 800..normally it would kick up, | 18:57 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: ye...these things were the first ones ive checked out | 18:57 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: If you disable speedstep in bios, it should stay on 2Ghz permanently | 19:00 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: ye well, so whats up the on demand?:) | 19:00 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: the on demand could work in 9.4+ so why not now? | 19:01 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: no idea ... file a bug report mentioning your cpu model etc | 19:03 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: or wait for 11.10 and see if it works | 19:03 |
| n8w | GirlyGirl: ye lets see...thx for help | 19:05 |
| GirlyGirl | n8w: no problem | 19:07 |
| draqster | hi all | 19:58 |
| draqster | after "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade" on my Kubuntu machine, I seem to have Ubuntu! Any ideas how that could happen? | 19:58 |
| well_laid_lawn | draqster: are you using a ppa for kde? | 20:00 |
| well_laid_lawn | that's the first thing that comes to mind | 20:00 |
| draqster | no | 20:01 |
| well_laid_lawn | doesn't dpkg keep a log? you could check in there for what happened | 20:02 |
| draqster | ok, I checked again and there where indeed PPA packages | 20:15 |
| draqster | I removed the corresponding lines. But now, how can I roll back to the official kde versions? | 20:15 |
| draqster | I.e. how can I say "for each installed program that was taken from the PPA repo, uninstall it and install the official package"? | 20:16 |
| GirlyGirl | draqster: ppapurge and reinstall? | 20:18 |
| GirlyGirl | draqster: And its difficult because somethimes names change | 20:19 |
| draqster | I tried that on kde-workspace, but aptitude didn't automatically purge all the related packages. So do I now have to go through all package and check the Version whether it is ppa? | 20:19 |
| [Raiden] | draqster: try ppapurge | 20:21 |
| [Raiden] | and reinstall kubuntu-desktop | 20:22 |
| draqster | where do I find that program? | 20:22 |
| [Raiden] | apt-cache search ppapurge | 20:22 |
| draqster | tried already, didn't find anything | 20:22 |
| [Raiden] | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ppa-purge/0.2.8+bzr56/+build/2041068 | 20:24 |
| draqster | funny: kubuntu-desktop isn't even installed right now. | 20:24 |
| draqster | installing kubuntu-desktop gives me KDE 4.6.5 - is that the latest official? | 20:25 |
| [Raiden] | yes. | 20:27 |
| draqster | solved that one: everything works now | 20:29 |
| draqster | That brings me to my second problem :-) | 20:29 |
| draqster | I installed 11.04 on my wife's laptop. Everything went fine, except that when she logs in I see the loading animation and then we are again at the login screen. | 20:30 |
| draqster | That is with Kubuntu 11.04. I tried Ubuntu 11.04, which lets her logging in. | 20:30 |
| draqster | Previous versions of Kubuntu worked just fine. | 20:31 |
| [Raiden] | wait until 11.10 :) | 20:33 |
| draqster | I told her :-) but she dosn't want to wait. And she specifically disliked Ubuntu | 20:33 |
| [Raiden] | ) | 20:34 |
| ricky1966 | hi everybody, i've migration to kubuntu 11.10 beta2, but i've a problem with the migration to kmail2, abybody can help me, i can't go on, and a window said me to try kmail --migration and something else, nut i don't wrote it and i don't remembre what i've to write to try to solve the prblem | 20:37 |
| Daskreech | ricky1966: you can try kmail --help | 20:42 |
| ricky1966 | try it, but nothing about migration.... | 20:43 |
| === wr is now known as draqster | ||
| phiscribe | i know not to ask if its ok to ask, so im warning...i got 5 machines with kubuntu and i am pulling my hair out....i feel the need to summon a yoda of kubuntu | 20:55 |
| phiscribe | so...i want a configuration with maybe roaming profiles like active directory or a way to sync profiles...ill have a windows logon in the mix everyonce and while....maybe some way to store users directories in a single place....but i am on a budget an the $ is running out....what suggestions do you fine peole have? i am looking and samba, nfs, puppet...i would like some kinda groupware....i think just a push would help | 20:58 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| phiscribe | these machines have a bit of age.... | 20:59 |
| phiscribe | alright how about this, the printer applet lists current print jobs and can show completed ones....the User and Document colums show 'Unknown' and the Printer column is blank, I would realy like to see the document name in the list, any ideas? | 21:11 |
| avihay | phiscribe: my school does it, so it's definitely possible | 21:11 |
| phiscribe | ah avihay, yes possible i belive, just how possbile for my fumbling and how timely hehe | 21:12 |
| avihay | well, since they don't copy my home directory every-time like wingdows, I guess they have a script that mounts your home folder on logon | 21:13 |
| phiscribe | i think the printer applet is an ibus screw up | 21:13 |
| phiscribe | probably fstab and and a network file share, i know the top level ideas....sorta, but not so good on implementation, i guess i jsut need to think some more, i like to chat just to solidify my thoughts, thanks for sounding back | 21:14 |
| avihay | I'm curious aswell | 21:14 |
| phiscribe | from what i read, samba can, (in addtion to being a bridge to windows shares) be a windows active directory, this would give me roaming profiles, but i am not sure if a ldap server would do the same, be better and work in win and lin | 21:15 |
| phiscribe | what i dont want is what Windows does, make 4-10 gigabyte proviles that have to load on the network each time you boot | 21:16 |
| phiscribe | profiles that is | 21:16 |
| phiscribe | i need a linux yoda | 21:17 |
| [Raiden] | ) | 21:18 |
| phiscribe | yoda are you being entering the room? | 21:18 |
| phiscribe | where in kubuntu might i tweak the ibus settings | 21:22 |
| tomas__ | I keep getting this error when running sudo apt-get install: "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" even though there's 40GB+ left on the drive | 21:48 |
| cher | tomas__: Can you create a bunch of small files on the drive? | 21:50 |
| cher | tomas__: Maybe the fs ran out of inodes. | 21:50 |
| tomas__ | Example command? I can create new blank text files in Dolphin and save files from Firefox | 21:52 |
| cher | Hmm. What partitions do you have for linux? (i.e. output of df command in a pastebin) | 21:53 |
| tomas__ | http://pastebin.com/d9JVkQBA | 21:54 |
| tomas__ | Ah, boot partition is 100% used.... why? | 21:55 |
| Githzerai | tomas__: it's too small | 21:55 |
| Githzerai | kernel images are there | 21:56 |
| tomas__ | How buig should it be? | 21:56 |
| tomas__ | It was fine under Gentoo | 21:56 |
| Githzerai | depends on how many kernels do you keep | 21:56 |
| [Raiden] | /var/cache/apt | 21:56 |
| tomas__ | I just migrated with a complete reformat so I should only have one | 21:57 |
| Githzerai | tomas__: then you should check what remains there | 21:57 |
| cher | Yep, maybe there's an old kernel lying around which you no longer need. | 21:58 |
| [Raiden] | du -h /var/cache/apt/archives | 21:58 |
| skreech_ | tomas__: try sudo apt-get clean | 21:58 |
| tomas__ | http://pastebin.com/5gyrXJXh | 21:58 |
| tomas__ | skreech_: did that. | 21:58 |
| skreech_ | tomas__: didn't clear up any space? | 21:59 |
| tomas__ | Unfortunately no | 21:59 |
| Githzerai | he doesn0t have separate /var partition so there is enough free space | 21:59 |
| cher | tomas__: On kubuntu 35 mb are enough for /boot for 1 kernel. However, if you install a new kernel, the old kernels still are there. Look at /boot and maybe delete old files. However, be careful. | 21:59 |
| tomas__ | Well, I'm currently in 2.6.38.8 and it seems like it wants to upgrade me to 2.6.38.11... I should be OK to delete the 2.6.38.8 files no? | 22:02 |
| cher | Today I've changed my system from single monitor (1920x1200) to dual monitor (screen 1: 1280x1024, screen 2: 1920x1200). Now the task bar seems to have width 1920 but as screen 1 is 1280 parts of the task bar are not visible. How could I fix that? | 22:02 |
| [Raiden] | a separate section under boot only creates unnecessary problems | 22:03 |
| tomas__ | [Raiden]: What exactly do you mean? | 22:04 |
| cher | Oh, and how can I stop nepomuk from starting when I log in? I couldn't find it in Autostart, .profile or .bashrc. (I hate nepomuk, and I don't know why anyone would want to use it.) | 22:05 |
| dieterd_ | Hi, what's wrong with initrd.img created by update from 10.04.2 to 10.04.3. Since then I have grub error 18. Any ideas for repair? Grub repair and reinstall can't solve this. | 22:05 |
| Lithos84 | cher: System Settings -> Desktop Search | 22:06 |
| Githzerai | cher: just nepomuk or nepomuk+akonsdi alltogether? | 22:06 |
| cher | What is akonsdi? | 22:06 |
| [Raiden] | tomas__: a separate section to boot just doesn't make sense to do if no exotic file systems - google tranlator, my english is bad | 22:06 |
| Githzerai | THats Akonadi, sry | 22:06 |
| cher | Okay, then what's akonadi? | 22:07 |
| tomas__ | [Raiden]: Interesting. That's always what I learned to do, coming from the world of Gentoo | 22:07 |
| tomas__ | But then they like things to be complicated. | 22:07 |
| dieterd_ | changed to xubuntu | 22:07 |
| Githzerai | cher: http://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM/Akonadi | 22:07 |
| dieterd_ | exit | 22:07 |
| Githzerai | cher: if you don't know what it is, you probably don't need it, Unless you use KDEPIM (kmail and stuff) | 22:08 |
| [Raiden] | tomas__: as they explain the need for? | 22:08 |
| tomas__ | No, just the way they said to do it. | 22:09 |
| [Raiden] | :) | 22:09 |
| [Raiden] | tomas__: I did a separate section only 1 time watched reiserfs4. In all other cases not useful | 22:11 |
| tomas__ | [Raiden]: Thanks. Good to know | 22:12 |
| [Raiden] | may be still need to encrypt the root fs... | 22:13 |
| [Raiden] | I hope you understand me, I enjoyed the electronic translator :) | 22:15 |
| tomas__ | Gonna try resizing the partitions, brb | 22:17 |
| tomas__ | Holla! That worked. You guys are geniuses! | 22:19 |
| g0rs | tomas__: was your installation succesful? | 22:23 |
| tomas__ | Yes, KPackage kit can now read it's history, etc. which was the initial problem. Except now, I have to start it in a terminal with sudo, or it complains about improper authorization (without giving me a chance in-program to authenticate) | 22:25 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| tomas__ | Ok, next on the list, I have no sound from Adobe Flash, but all other sound apps (MPlayer, Amarok, etc.) work fine. | 23:04 |
| Githzerai | tomas__: flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound | 23:06 |
| tomas__ | Githzerai: Where do I get that> | 23:08 |
| Githzerai | repoes :) | 23:08 |
| Githzerai | it's in multiverse | 23:08 |
| tomas__ | Ok, I;m new to Ubuntu/Debian... apt-get and KPackageKit don't find it. | 23:09 |
| Githzerai | tomas__: 11.04? | 23:09 |
| tomas__ | yes | 23:09 |
| Githzerai | tomas__: go to software sources and enable multiverse repository | 23:10 |
| Githzerai | sudo software-properties-kde | 23:12 |
| tomas__ | It's enabled... I think... deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty multiverse is checked | 23:12 |
| Githzerai | hm, thats wierd | 23:12 |
| tomas__ | It's enabled under software-properties-kde | 23:12 |
| Githzerai | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin&searchon=names&suite=natty§ion=all | 23:13 |
| Githzerai | shows that there is a flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound package in multiverse | 23:13 |
| Githzerai | Have you updated package list? | 23:13 |
| tomas__ | How do I do that exactly? | 23:14 |
| Githzerai | fastest way: sudo apt-get update | 23:14 |
| Githzerai | and: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound | 23:15 |
| tomas__ | Same thing | 23:15 |
| Githzerai | hm, wtf?? | 23:16 |
| Githzerai | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound/ | 23:16 |
| Githzerai | It exists in your mirror :/ | 23:17 |
| g0rs | Githzerai: what is extra sound for? i installed the norma adobe-non-free plugin | 23:17 |
| Githzerai | Is there a '#' in fornt of deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty multiverse? | 23:17 |
| well_laid_lawn | !info flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound | 23:17 |
| ubottu | flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound (source: flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound): Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.0.svn2431-3 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB (Only available for i386) | 23:17 |
| Githzerai | g0rs: it enables flash to use pulseaudio | 23:18 |
| toyowheelin | woah you can do that? | 23:18 |
| g0rs | Githzerai: can we disable pulseaudio and use oss or ALSA? | 23:18 |
| Githzerai | g0rs: yes we can, but why? :) | 23:18 |
| g0rs | Githzerai: what is the big deal about pulse audio anyway? | 23:19 |
| g0rs | Githzerai: why have they changed alsa or oss with pulse audio? | 23:19 |
| toyowheelin | the description for extrasound says it is for esound and oss | 23:19 |
| toyowheelin | :/ | 23:19 |
| Githzerai | g0rs: check PA wiki, too long for IRC | 23:20 |
| g0rs | Githzerai: will do | 23:20 |
| cher | Why disable pulseaudio? Because it sucks, that's why. | 23:20 |
| cher | With alsa I had full control of my sound card. Now with pulse audio I cannot even change the volume on left separately from right. | 23:21 |
| Githzerai | toyowheelin: PA is a successor too Esound, so Flash uses Esound code to output to PA | 23:21 |
| g0rs | cher: exactly. it seemed like lot of features of a sound card are not enabled or visible by default | 23:21 |
| toyowheelin | Githzerai: oh I see | 23:22 |
| cher | Yes, and it's difficult to enable them, maybe even impossible. I've tried for 10 minutes or so and failed. I just can't find out how to gain control over my sound card again. | 23:22 |
| Githzerai | I had nos such problems with PA | 23:22 |
| g0rs | cher: I wanted to disable PA and switch back to ALSA or OSS | 23:22 |
| cher | I just don't know how to disable pulse audio. | 23:24 |
| Torch | cher: uninstall it. | 23:24 |
| Githzerai | cher: cant you just uninstall it? | 23:24 |
| toyowheelin | cher: in the mixer just right click the playback device and hit split channels | 23:24 |
| cher | toyowheelin: Okay, thanks! Now the next thing I'd like to know is how I control the headphone separately. | 23:25 |
| cher | And how to enable bass boost and such stuff. | 23:26 |
| toyowheelin | hmm not sure about bass boost | 23:26 |
| Githzerai | cher: for bass boost you need an eqalizer | 23:26 |
| toyowheelin | :/ | 23:26 |
| cher | An equalizer? Erm no, it's just a flag of my sound card, and it used to be accessible in Alsa. | 23:27 |
| toyowheelin | well if its built into the card you can simply open alsamixer in a terminal and turn it on but thats not a very clean solution | 23:27 |
| Githzerai | is it still accesible? | 23:27 |
| well_laid_lawn | try alsamixer -c 0 | 23:28 |
| Githzerai | see. PA is a server that runs on top of ALSA | 23:28 |
| cher | Well, alsamixer on a terminal doesn't work properly as long as pulse audio is running. | 23:28 |
| Githzerai | cher hint : F6 | 23:28 |
| toyowheelin | cher: the selection of bass boost should | 23:28 |
| toyowheelin | just the volume controls will be overridden | 23:28 |
| toyowheelin | cher: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PulseAudioStoleMyVolumes | 23:29 |
| toyowheelin | check that out also | 23:30 |
| toyowheelin | may be helpful in getting PA under control | 23:30 |
| Githzerai | toyowheelin: it basically sums to F6 :) | 23:30 |
| cher | I'll just uninstall this pulseaudio crap. It sucks. | 23:31 |
| Githzerai | that's your choice... and opinion ;) | 23:31 |
| cher | That I cannot change the volume of my headphones independently of the speakers is not an opinion, it's a fact. | 23:32 |
| cher | And that pulseaudio hides sound card features instead of making them accessible also is not an opinion but a fact. | 23:33 |
| toyowheelin | yeah its kinda annoying | 23:33 |
| g0rs | cher: alsamixer is accessible on terminal | 23:33 |
| toyowheelin | g0rs: almost all settings in alsamixer get overridden by pulse | 23:34 |
| cher | Yes, and what's the point in that if pulseaudio took control of volume control? Even in alsamixer I nolonger can change the headphone volume independently :( | 23:34 |
| Githzerai | cher: well, I wouldn't argue on how you use it, but I for one don't have much use of all that options in my face all the time | 23:34 |
| g0rs | toyowheelin: i could increase or decrease volume with alsamixer and the effects are immediate | 23:34 |
| Githzerai | I set it up once and thats about it | 23:34 |
| cher | I change the volume of my headphones regularly, not just once. | 23:35 |
| cher | At least I'd like to. | 23:35 |
| toyowheelin | g0rs: yes then change the pulse volume and anything you changed will be reset | 23:35 |
| g0rs | toyowheelin: its better to disable PA. | 23:35 |
| toyowheelin | yeah its not really a big deal for me but I can see how others might be pretty frustrated with PA | 23:37 |
| Githzerai | What about bluetooth headphones? | 23:37 |
| toyowheelin | what about them | 23:37 |
| Githzerai | Well, never managet to get zhem to work with ALSA | 23:38 |
| Githzerai | *managed | 23:38 |
| toyowheelin | oh | 23:38 |
| Githzerai | sry for typos | 23:38 |
| toyowheelin | never tried it | 23:38 |
| Githzerai | Also, there is Veromix plasmoid | 23:38 |
| Githzerai | which is similar to Pavucontrol in Gnome | 23:39 |
| toyowheelin | hmm I will have to try it | 23:41 |
| Githzerai | toyowheelin: music streaming from your smartphone to your PC via bluetooth is a lot of fun :) | 23:43 |
| toyowheelin | how do you do that | 23:43 |
| toyowheelin | suppose your phone has to support it | 23:43 |
| Githzerai | Pulseaudio :) | 23:44 |
| Githzerai | It's a server, so you just set your phone to use it as a sound output. | 23:44 |
| Githzerai | Setting up the phone is a bit tricky | 23:45 |
| toyowheelin | yeah figured it would be | 23:45 |
| Githzerai | but linux on N900 is just the same as any :) | 23:45 |
| Githzerai | I'm just waiting for bluetooth tethering in Bledevil+Plasma NetworkManagement, so that I can say that KDE has everything I want.... | 23:48 |
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