[00:14] anyone remember how to check which version of kubuntu you are running [00:15] somee terminal command [00:16] oh wait I found it [00:16] lsb_release -r === claydoh is now known as Guest24925 === Guest24925 is now known as claydoh [00:20] not a whole lot of talk in here [00:20] its the support channel, thats probably why [00:20] oh [00:21] you might want to try the various -offtopic channels for chit chat [00:21] ah thanks [00:21] xubuntu ubuntu lubuntu kubuntu-offtopic === zafiro is now known as rodri === rodri is now known as zafiro === zafiro is now known as rodri [01:41] hey, i newly installed kubuntu, and one annoyance I've found so far is that if I'm downloading something in chromium, if the screensaver comes on, and I have to log back in, the download is "interrupted" and I can't resume. What's going on? Can I still have a blank screen after some period of time without interrupting the functions of the computer? [02:13] is the 11.10 on RC now or no? [02:15] ssfdre38: not that I've heard... but it's so close to release that it should be [02:15] well i looked on the wiki a week ago and it said that there will be one yesterday but today it got deleted [02:16] :/ [02:16] i was going to do a video on it === me is now known as Guest25031 [02:17] guess i have to wait till thursday or friday to do it [02:18] because? [02:18] hi [02:19] there is no RC for 11.10 [02:20] ssfdre38: I guess it depends on what you want to cover in your video. But the (major) updates have slowed down in the last few weeks, and it seems more upkeep now [02:21] for me its first looks on the new features [02:23] hmm yeah its odd that the beta 2 is still all you can download [02:23] well at the moment it's sitting at KDE 4.7.1 (if the looks are what you're after) [02:23] i know and i have beta2 and did a ubuntu first look i was going to do a RC first look on Kubuntu [02:24] semitones: that sounds wired. screen saver doesn't force me to log in every time, unless I unable a feature called screen lock, and even then, it doesn't log me out of my session. sounds like either the screen saver somehow crashes x when you leave it (not likely) or your computer goes into some sort of suspend mode and logs you off. [02:25] ok. I'm very new to kubuntu settings, so where would I find those types of options? [02:25] sorry... 4.7.2 [02:26] ok, you find them all in the setting manager, under display->screensaver and under power managment [02:27] looks as though they're trying to rush a KDE version into 11.10 ;) [02:28] let;s have a look at the screen-saver crashing X theory === Toyo is now known as toyowheelin [02:33] how should we look at that [02:34] angily I would imagine [02:34] I do have lock screen on resume [02:35] semitones: is it sleeping and/or hibernating? [02:36] i don't think so. in gnome, if my computer slept, it usually would not wake up [02:36] so to speak [02:37] ok... are you using Gnome or KDE? [02:37] you can test the screen saver, is require password after: ticked? if so, remove the tick, and press test, hit a key, then readd the tick and press test, otherwise, just test [02:38] ok i'll give that a shot [02:38] I'd be happy if tasco will take over, I wanna try to sleep a little extra [02:38] hhehe, no worries here :) thanks [02:38] avihay: me too... but I'll take over I guess haha [02:39] onle selept for three hours... :-< [02:39] slept [02:40] you don't want to know what I do... lol [02:40] avihay: go to bed [02:40] night night [02:41] I am, but I set up notifications so that the computer reads messages addressed to me out loud, computer too close to bed... [02:42] haha [02:44] semitones: anyway.... it sounds like, if chrome quits/suspends downloads when you're away from your computer, you're going into sleep or hibernation mode (ie chrome is suspended and/or can't write to disk) [02:45] then maybe it is going into sleep mode, but if so, 1. Sleep Works (hooray!) and 2. Some setting not in power management is causing it to sleep. [02:46] do the fans in your tower turn off? [02:49] it is a laptop. I don't know if they do or not, hang on (i have screensaver set to 1 minute now.) [02:49] ok === karma is now known as Peacheater [02:54] semitones: no stop of the download(s)? [02:58] the fans don't stop, neither does the screen turn off, it just goes black [02:58] I'll try downloading soemthing again [02:59] alright i'll let it sleep [03:01] how long did you leave it before when you came back to see your downloads stopped? [03:04] maybe 10 minutes [03:04] the plug was unplugged though, i also had screen lock enabled, which I don't anymore [03:07] screen lock shouldn't have anything to do with it. But having the power cable unplugged will put the laptop into a different power profile and it likely went to sleep/hibernate [03:07] by default that is [03:07] ok that makes sense. thanks for your help :) [03:07] semitones: not a problem [03:07] also do you know how to make screen edges turn off the screen? [03:08] I don't see that as an option under the screen edge settings [03:10] go to the K menu -> Computer -> System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Screen Edges... click the edge you want and select the action you want [03:12] if you set it to 'lock screen' it should turn off the screen in a couple minutes [05:15] Hello, can someone help me with a problem installing Kubuntu 11.04? [05:22] Hi, g0rs, my problem is I get to 75% install then an error saying "An error occured while removing packages, the following packages are broken: " then a blank list, and installation freezes [05:27] Ack, sorry the installer rebooted me [05:33] tomas__: no problem [05:34] tomas__: are you installing with a cd or via usb or ftp? [05:34] When it did reboot, I got a grub error 15.... and I thought this was going to be simpler than gentoo.... [05:34] CD [05:35] tomas__: it is very simple, perhahs its a cd issue? is it a good idea to burn the image on a usb drive and install everything via usb? i did install with usb. [05:36] Hmmm.... don't have one handy. [05:36] ^The CD checks out ok.... this is weird [05:36] tomas__: do you have network access ? [05:37] To what exactly? [05:38] tomas__: i dont know if its a package issue or if the cd was not burned correctly. perhaps you can try buring a minimal image and installing everything via your LAN [05:39] Hmmm... i'll check it out, thanks [05:39] tomas__: probably that would be the easiest instead of finding out whats wrong with your current approach [05:39] cool man [05:52] Need help regarding regarding nepomuk/strigi [05:57] phoenix_firebrd: ask away [05:59] claydoh: left my pc ON for the whole night for strigi to index my file on the morning , i saw it was crashed, i saw a bug report regarding it previously, is the problem fixed or is there a workaround [05:59] dunno, what bug report? [06:01] claydoh: i think this a similar one, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=276306 [06:01] KDE bug 276306 in general "Crash coming out of standby" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [06:03] claydoh: do you use strigi to index files? [06:04] no, though I have had it enabled at times. [06:06] claydoh: any solution [06:08] phoenix_firebrd: which version KDE? This issue from digging through all the duplicate reports may be fixed in 4.7 ( so natty or oneiric) [06:09] claydoh: sorry , forgot to tell you, i am using kubuntu 11.10 beta 2 with kde 4.7.1 [06:11] ditto here, I don't have the issue here. Perhaps for the initial index, let it stay awake maybe? iirc once the major indexing is done, it doesn't have to run constantly [06:11] I can [06:12] I can't get it to crash here on one of my systems , but it really hasn't run long enough [06:12] claydoh: Are you trueg ? [06:13] lol no [06:13] claydoh: ok [06:13] claydoh: that fellow told the same thing in a post, i agree with that, its just this one bug [06:17] hard to track if it is hard to reproduce :( [06:19] claydoh: ya [06:21] claydoh: the update-apt-xapi , takes a lot of cpu and sometime, the system hangs, any solution? [06:22] claydoh: update-apt-xapi ->process [06:24] phoenix_firebrd: dunno, i don't get hangs, tho it does slow for a spell, but my main laptop is slightly older, my reeeeaaaally old laptop just slows for a spell [06:25] claydoh: what is that process actually for? === richard is now known as Guest72122 [06:28] phoenix_firebrd: it indexes the apt database for the software center, for all the info [06:28] and muon [06:30] * claydoh sleeps now, pretty late :( [06:30] claydoh: ok, thank you , good night [06:31] phoenix_firebrd: maybe others can chime in, too :) [06:31] claydoh: ya === administrator is now known as Guest46774 === skywalker is now known as Guest15237 === twilight is now known as Guest85970 === insegnante is now known as markit [08:43] how can i share a folder so windows can access them? === massimo is now known as Guest9765 [09:45] !samba | se7en [09:45] se7en: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Guest9765 is now known as max_sme === max_sme is now known as massimo74 === massimo74 is now known as max_sme === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [12:17] Looks like flash is broken again. In the past I've gotten around this by uninstalling and reinstalling flashplugin-installer. THis time it's not working. Any other tips? [12:23] a) define broken b) which release? [12:29] dthacker: What do you mean broken?? [12:29] GirlyGirl: brb, need to restart for applying updates :) [12:29] Hey guys. I've installed quite a few kde updates earlier this morning and after rebooting and logging in, I'm only presented with a grey screen now. Nothing is happing, I can only kill the kdm to get back to the login screen... [12:30] Has anyone had that problem with the recent updates too? Any ideas what could cause them and how I can fix them? [12:30] Oh yes, I have Kubuntu 11.04 with default repositories [12:31] Carnage__: Does it switch back to kdm on its own [12:32] Nope, it just remains grey [12:32] I checked .xsession-errors but it did not come up with something useful. [12:32] Carnage__: Pressing ALT + F2 shows you a run dialog [12:32] xorg.log is fine since kdm starts properly, things just get screwed up after login [12:33] Nope, I cannot do anything at all apart from changing to a tty or killing kdm [12:33] and.....I'm back! [12:34] Carnage__: Do you have any important settings in KDE that you need, would you like to set defaults? [12:35] I already created a new account but after logging in, the behavior is exactly the same [12:35] So it does not seem to be a user setting but rather a kde problem [12:35] Carnage__: can you pastebin the .xsession-error from the new account? [12:35] I am receiving the "Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page". Click on "install missing plugins" and I get Adobe flash installer. Click on that and it says "Already installed" [12:35] pastebinit can do it from the command line [12:36] I've tried uninstalling flashplugin-installer and re-installing with KpackageKit, That has worked in the past, but not this time. [12:37] yofel: For some reason some packages stupidly make apt remove kde-base-workspace somethimes ... I had this problem recently when but that was not with upgrading to 4..6.5 [12:38] Is there another package I should be poking at? [12:38] I assume Carnage__ is going to 4.6.5 as it just went to natty updates [12:38] GirlyGirl: is that with 4.6.5 or 4.7.X ? [12:38] 4.7X [12:38] then that's fine, kdebase-workspace is kde-workspace in 4.7 [12:39] yofel: Sorry I meant kde-workspace ... it got removed and killed the system had to manually install it from CLI [12:39] ok, *that*s shouldn't have happened [12:39] *that [12:41] kpackagekit shows flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree installed. [12:41] dthacker: Does flash not work with all browsers? [12:41] GirlyGirl: got the apt history from when it did that? [12:42] yofel: Sorry no [12:42] GirlyGirl: I will check another browser now... [12:42] k [12:42] yofel: I think it was suggested for removal with one of the kde wallpapers packages or something [12:42] GirlyGirl: rekonq shows same error... [12:43] no idea without logs, we do upgrade tests before we release the packages, and this never happened there [12:44] yofel: Anyway its no big deal 4.7 isn't in the oficial release or something, people using backports do expect such stuff now and then [12:44] dthacker: What error? [12:45] GirlyGirl: "you need to upgrade your Adobe flash player" [12:46] there was a recent release of flash from adobe, natty wasn't updated yet from what I see [12:46] Flash 11 [12:46] I'm on 10.04 for another week...... [12:46] dthacker: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=21432 [12:47] GirlyGirl: thanks, reading... [12:47] Sorry guys, I'm on the phone, I'll get back to you in a minute [12:48] Would you recommend unintalling before trying that PPA? [12:48] uninstalling even :) [12:49] dthacker: I don't know I get this problem on Windows ... IE will say old version but FF works fine [12:50] GirlyGirl: hehe. I get this about every six months. This time it's just been more effort to fix. Kubuntu works pretty well and makes me lazy [12:53] Ok, new ppa added, but not seeing packanges for maverick. I wonder if they made one. === omega_ is now known as Guest15430 === xismwm is now known as tuppes [12:55] hi [12:56] yofel, GirlyGirl: I have to boot Kubuntu again, I'll be back in a bit, I'll see if I have to reinstall kde-base-workspace [12:56] can someone give me a hand with Kwin? [12:56] hey GirlyGirl [12:57] hi [12:57] no||shutdown: Describe the problem [12:58] GG - i have 1 laptop lcd and 1 standard lcd, their preferred settings are 1280x800 and 1280x1024, saving these settings to be loaded at boot is what i'm after [12:58] GG i have to use xRandR to adapt these settings in the CLI [12:58] someone can point me to a good tutorial for start to develop android apps with kdevelop? [12:58] GG but i want to save these settings so i don't have to redo them [12:58] i have no ./xprofile file from what i can see [12:58] thats all [12:59] i'd also like to get to the bottom of the OpenGL issues with these monitors, seeing as the shaders will only load in the standard config, not in the config i want, saying my OpenGl package is unsafe to use. [12:59] thats my goal for this attempt :] [13:00] i am reading http://userbase.kde.org/KWin [13:00] Hiyas all [13:01] hi BluesKaj [13:01] no||shutdown: Doesn't display settings sort the monitor fine? [13:01] hi [13:01] hi omega__ [13:01] how can I change the background colour in irc quassel please? [13:01] when I run sudo apt-get update its putting ign in front of my newly added ppa. Does ign mean ignore? [13:01] Girly yes but I have to reconfigure every time i log [13:01] girly i need to find a file which has the default config already [13:02] girly - i think by finding that file that i'll be able to enter the proper settings, save them and never have to care again [13:02] no||shutdown: Normally if you do not unplug monitors it should keep the config [13:02] dthacker, yes , nothing vailable [13:02] available [13:02] girly - not in this case. [13:02] Hey guys, I'm back. I reinstalled kdebase-workspace but it did not help. That's my .xsession-errors, nothing more: http://pastebin.com/yC1SsDvn [13:02] girly - i start with 1024x768 on both monitors, the lcd a clone of the laptop-lcd [13:02] no||shutdown: Also you can press G and tab to auto complete my nick name its easier as it sends an attention request [13:02] I wonder why I get an openbox-message in there... [13:03] BluesKaj: I see a plublished package for Maverick (what I'm running) in the PPA. [13:03] GirlyGirl: ok, you see after i change the settings with xRandR the modes Kwin was installed in change and i lose window effects [13:03] GirlyGirl: just want to properly configure it and save it. [13:03] https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash [13:04] no||shutdown: What graphic card do you have [13:04] GirlyGirl: Intel GMA 950 [13:04] do you know a good tutorial for s platform?tating developing android apps using kubuntu (kdevelop) as development [13:04] no||shutdown: Give me a sec I have the same card let me check [13:04] GirlyGirl: thanks :] [13:05] omega__: many seem to favor using Eclipse. [13:05] no||shutdown: Ok Press ALT + F2 and type "kdesu kate /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup" [13:06] no||shutdown: then press enter [13:06] GirlyGirl: window pops up and then disappears [13:06] GirlyGirl: followed by a nice sound [13:06] thankyou dthacker! I know...but kdevelop is faster and more integrated than a Java program like Eclipse. And I always have programs with Open SDK and oracle Java SDK... [13:07] in eclipese of course.. [13:07] dthacker, ahh yeah , that one is problematic ..not sure if it's been replaced in the repos ..I tried to install that flash version from that ppa yesterday and i had to apt-get install , check your flash version after installing [13:07] no||shutdown: Ok then run the same thing with "kwrite" in place of "kate" [13:07] no||shutdown: Ok then run the same thing with "kwrite" in place of "kate" and kdesudo in place of kdesu [13:07] no||shutdown: Which version of Kubuntu is this [13:07] BluesKaj: did you pull from that PPA or just regular repository? [13:08] GirlyGirl: now i see the Xsetup config file :) making progress [13:08] no||shutdown: Which version of Kubuntu is this? [13:08] GirlyGirl: file is no longer Read-Only [13:08] dthacker, not sure , I haven't checked the versions yet [13:08] GirlyGirl: its Backtrack 5r1 [13:08] GirlyGirl: KDE4 [13:09] no||shutdown: Open konsole press help > About KDE [13:09] BluesKaj: ok, I'm going to uninstall/reinstall and check versions. Back in a few.... [13:09] GirlyGirl: ver 4.5.3 [13:10] no||shutdown: This is precisely why I dislike people using backtrack and comming to Ubuntu support ... that release is very old .. it has a bug that causes this ... has been fixed not in Kubuntu but you use backtrack [13:10] GirlyGirl: understood [13:10] GirlyGirl: i can feel that. [13:10] no||shutdown: anyways appending the line "xrandr --output DVI-1 --auto --right-of DVI-0" in the xsetup file will fix it [13:10] hi... I'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a brand new Samsung 9-series. In gome, it connects nicely to the wifi network, but in kubuntu it does not connect. any ideas on this? what to do/check? [13:11] dthacker, I checked synaptic and version number is 11.0.1.129-0ubuntu0~sevenmachines1 , same as the ppa [13:11] GirlyGirl: alright, in this file xRandR settings are saved, I assume using the # before the command? [13:11] no||shutdown: Anyways I advice you to go to Kubuntu Oneric when it comes out on the 17th ... that comes with KDE 4.7.2 which is years ahead in bug fixes and features [13:11] no||shutdown: no # [13:12] GirlyGirl: thanks alot :] [13:12] GirlyGirl: any idea on the OpenGL packages, since we have the same gpu? [13:12] GirlyGirl: i just didn't know about Kesu,thats why ;) [13:12] GirlyGirl: thanks again. [13:12] GirlyGirl: Any ideas with respect to my problem of the grey screen after logging in? My .xsession-errors is not really helpful http://pastebin.com/yC1SsDvn Though I wonder why something related to openbox is in there... [13:13] Carnage__: You have openbox? [13:13] no||shutdown: Is it working now? [13:13] GirlyGirl: i'm working on the commands atm [13:13] GirlyGirl: am going to define both monitors statically the file [13:14] GirlyGirl: I use KDE, but I have openbox installed to use it for a separate xserver on my TV [13:14] And this setup used to work without any problems, until this morning... [13:14] Carnage__: Try a simple "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" [13:14] Ok, will do, brb :) [13:16] no||shutdown: As to why anyone would still use KDE 4.5.3 I have no clue ... Clearly backtrack cannot keep up with maintaining packages [13:16] GirlyGirl: and when it comes to updating KDE? [13:17] GirlyGirl: this is a fresh install, i will run the standard update packages, nm [13:17] GirlyGirl: there are loads of update packages to be installed [13:18] looks like I'm trying to grab a version 10 update and failing.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/704431/ [13:18] no||shutdown: KDE will still remain "back" in "backtrack" [13:19] GirlyGirl: otherwise, about the Xsetup doc, the commands themselves on a new line, are there any delimeters ; or , etc? [13:19] no||shutdown: new line [13:20] GirlyGirl: GirlyGirl which version of kubuntu are you using? [13:20] GirlyGirl: KDE also [13:20] no||shutdown: Depends where on one system Natt 11.04 on another Oneric Beta 2 [13:20] GirlyGirl: Got it back working :) [13:20] no||shutdown: 4.71 and 4.7.2 [13:21] For whatever weird reason, x-window-manager got configured to openbox [13:21] no||shutdown: 4.5X is like 2 years back [13:21] by the update... [13:21] GirlyGirl: 4.7.2 should be available on apt-get ? [13:21] no||shutdown: No not yet on oneirc only it isn't there yet I compiled it [13:21] As it seems, kde-window-manager does not set the alternative properly on post-install... [13:21] GirlyGirl: i will fix this boot file and take a good look at the various components, I know your probably wondering why i'm using backtrack? there is a valid point ;) [13:22] GirlyGirl: i'm well aware there higher grade versions available, i should be able to cross install/compile this === tuppes is now known as xismwm [13:22] GirlyGirl: i should be able to improve all of this, or are their limitations in your knowledge? [13:23] no||shutdown: Old components of backtrack will give you are hard time with dependancies [13:23] GirlyGirl: have noticed. [13:24] no||shutdown: Besides the current Intel video driver on backtrack will not work well with 4.7X [13:24] no||shutdown: Why do you use it anyway [13:24] GirlyGirl: *sigh* because its all the rage [13:24] GirlyGirl: actually, i have some work related projects requiring the aircrack program set [13:25] no||shutdown: You can install that on Kubuntu as well [13:25] GirlyGirl: i was running all this on a vm, but i decided to install the OS, because of performance issues [13:25] GirlyGirl: well aware of that [13:25] GirlyGirl: so when it comes to my video card, and dual core intel cpu's, which version would you recommend for a clean install? [13:26] no||shutdown: If backtrack wanted to do something sensible they should have just made a ppa with a meta package that modifes ubuntu [13:26] GirlyGirl: i don't mind booting a different version, the point is to get the the best performance out of my laptop! [13:26] no||shutdown: wait for oneric [13:26] GirlyGirl: nothing sensible about this OS, childish more like :P [13:26] GirlyGirl: this nonsense needs to be ready by monday. [13:26] GirlyGirl: :) [13:27] no||shutdown: or install 11.04 and put kde 4.7.1 will fix graphic issue in 4.6X http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7.1 [13:28] GirlyGirl: ill take a look [13:28] GirlyGirl: thanks :) [13:28] no||shutdown: No problem [13:28] GirlyGirl: brb, going to verify this Xsetup config [13:31] lol [13:31] GirlyGirl: nope :] [13:32] anyway lets take a look at a reasonable install [14:05] hi guys [14:05] someone are using kubuntu 11.10 version netbook ? [14:06] im lost on this version hahaha, i cant find the main menu for installed programs :( [14:06] shallwe, ask in#ubuntu+1 [14:06] BluesKaj: ty :D [14:07] err #ubuntu+1 [14:08] i guess there is no netbook version anymore .. [14:09] yeah, I wasn't sure ...i think there's netbook login option [14:09] OerHeks, , but don't quote me :) [14:09] yes theres a version for netbok [14:10] im using :D i guess o.O [14:10] cuz theres only 1 bar now on top [14:10] like unity [14:10] Ok, grandchild duty is done for awhile. [14:11] BluesKaj: you said current version of flash is 11.01.29. Even after apt-get update, I'm attemptiing to download 10.3.183. How can I correct that? [14:16] dthacker, sorry I forgot to mention I'm using the 11.10 Oneiric ppa [14:16] "yours may be bifferent" [14:16] err different [14:17] BluesKaj: oops :) I don't think I want to upgrade today.... [14:17] I was going to wait for the official release... [14:17] yeah, that's on thurs === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [14:42] Can someone tell me why (k)ubuntu has not updated LibreOffice to 3.4.3? [14:51] mr-rich: your just using the wrong version. Kubuntu has [14:52] Kubuntu Beta2 that is;) [14:52] darthanubis: I'm using Kubuntu 11.04 [14:52] 11.10 is due out soon ... [14:52] I said Beta2 my friend [14:52] this month [14:53] I using it now, love it! [14:53] and I checked for you, yeah LO 3.43 [14:54] I did a clean install btw [14:54] I never upgrade to beta, I used to, but stopped. [14:55] Uprgading to final is alright I supposed [14:55] -d === insegnante is now known as markit [15:04] darthanubis: Kubuntu is my main OS ... I have everything on here. Clean installs would mean loosing everything or spending countless hours recovering from backups. I'll wait and "upgrade" to 11.10 when it's out ... [15:04] I use Windows as little as possable ... [15:06] I used to use Fedora, but upgrades would often break stuff since it was bleeding edge. (k)ubuntu is a a lot more stable and upgrades are smooth(er) ... [15:07] I never lose anything and it never takes hours to do such a thing, since I have seperate drives and partiitions for my work. /home stays put the only thing that gets formatted is / and /boot. [15:08] Plan your drives and partitions for such things as early upgrades in the future [15:08] peace [15:08] or you can always add a PPA to get the latest software which is great about Ubuntus [15:09] https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa [15:22] mr-rich: you get that link? [15:22] Yes ... thank you. [15:26] hi, could someone take a look at dmesg output on a external hard drive and let me know if i'm looking at a failing hard drive or not? [15:27] that's what I get when I connect the drive (without trying to mount it): http://pastebin.com/eStPFnaM Mounting fails [15:28] kaddi: nothing but fail there [15:29] fail as in hardware fail or corrupt patrition table or other? [15:29] the partition has not even mounted yet, so I'd go with H/W fail [15:30] you know of a tool to confirm/test for that? (with ubuntu) [15:30] can't test what aint connected [15:30] you are looking at your test results [15:30] it is connected, it's just not mounted [15:31] ubuntu recognized the drive just fine, also sees the partition on it, just not mounting it [15:31] it is not "connected" as far as the system is concerned [15:31] the system is seeing the drive [15:31] but no data can be read [15:31] or written [15:31] a drive that cannot read or write is no longer a working drive [15:32] yes, but I want to find out if that is because it's not partitioned correctly or if it is due to a hardware issue [15:32] if you do get it do function again, it won't be long before it completely crashes [15:32] an unpartitionned drive can not be read or written to eiter [15:32] has nothing to do with the partition [15:32] kaddi, then try this : mount -o remount,rw /path/to/drive [15:33] an unpartitioned drive alaso does not give buffer i/o errors either [15:34] BBL [15:34] ty [15:34] it mounted [15:40] backing up now... :) === cyl_ is now known as Guest87919 [15:51] Hi guys. I've asked this in #kde and #solid, neither seem to know, so I'll bring it here and see if someone can help me out. [15:52] I have network manager running, I have a brilliant wifi signal, and obviously I'm connected to the net :) But network manager's graph which shows me incoming and outgoing signal is totally flatlined. It's literally showing no traffic whatsoever. [15:52] KDE 4.7.1, Kubuntu 11.04, and my Wifi is on a USB stick (AR5523, Siemens Gigaset USB 108, over ndiswrapper) [15:54] Anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing this? It worked perfectly prior to a kernel change from 2.6.38-11-generic, to the pae version of the same kernel [15:56] BarkingFish, did you try a speedtest ? [15:56] just using IRC would give not much datatraffic [15:57] I'm not just using IRC, OerHeks [15:57] I have firefox open too, and I'm surfing some high intensity websites, a lot of flash, streaming video and so on [15:57] NM is still flatlined [16:13] .j #kubuntu-devel === wander is now known as mach [16:32] hellu === mach is now known as cod3name47 [16:33] hi cod3name47 :) [16:33] whats up? [16:42] Hi [16:42] Guys, I have problem with Skype [16:42] Skype always starts up whene I log in [16:42] how to disable that? [16:43] somebody [16:45] Guys, how to disable skype from starting up at log in?? === claydoh is now known as claydroid [17:04] gedO: Either check systemsettings -> Startup and shutdown if it's in autostart, or if it isn't then make sure it's not running at logout [17:10] Esos [17:59] <[Raiden]> kde 4.7.2 fall into release? [17:59] yes, as an update, i read [17:59] <[Raiden]> ok [18:12] gedO: I think you need to logout and select settings from the login screen [18:26] does any of u have been experiencing cpu freq lock(800Mhz in my case) in 11.04? [18:34] !info network manager natty [18:34] 'manager' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable [18:34] !info network-manager natty [18:35] network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.4~git.20110319t175609.d14809b-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 438 kB, installed size 1472 kB [18:35] so im running kubuntu and for some reason icant get sound out of my headphoines/speakers. i had sound when i had my tv hooked up via hdmi [18:36] !info network-manager natty-proposed [18:36] Package network-manager does not exist in natty-proposed [18:40] does any of u have been experiencing cpu freq lock(800Mhz in my case) in 11.04? [18:44] n8w: no, is this a laptop? [18:44] GirlyGirl: ye... [18:44] n8w: Install "powertop" and run that in terminal [18:45] n8w: See what output it gives [18:45] GirlyGirl: it feels like it doesnt know that it bein powered ... === patrick is now known as Guest62494 [18:48] GirlyGirl: ye ive got the output...what do u wanna know?:)) i mean yes it shows 3 freqs avaiable,but its bein locked on the lowest one [18:49] n8w: What CPU is this [18:50] GirlyGirl: c2d 2ghz [18:51] GirlyGirl: when i start the system it works just fine,but after some time it locks on 800mhz [18:52] GirlyGirl: http://pastebin.com/JvpqaarZ === alper is now known as BadJoke [18:54] n8w: Do you find any bottleneck performance wise? [18:55] GirlyGirl: r u kiddin me? [18:55] no [18:56] GirlyGirl: fcourse i do...its a big difference rtunnin it on 2ghz n 800mhz [18:57] n8w: Is your power profile on performance [18:57] GirlyGirl: the thing is that it doesnt kick up when no power avaiable..it keeps runin on 800..normally it would kick up, [18:57] GirlyGirl: ye...these things were the first ones ive checked out [19:00] n8w: If you disable speedstep in bios, it should stay on 2Ghz permanently [19:00] GirlyGirl: ye well, so whats up the on demand?:) [19:01] GirlyGirl: the on demand could work in 9.4+ so why not now? [19:03] n8w: no idea ... file a bug report mentioning your cpu model etc [19:03] n8w: or wait for 11.10 and see if it works [19:05] GirlyGirl: ye lets see...thx for help [19:07] n8w: no problem [19:58] hi all [19:58] after "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade" on my Kubuntu machine, I seem to have Ubuntu! Any ideas how that could happen? [20:00] draqster: are you using a ppa for kde? [20:00] that's the first thing that comes to mind [20:01] no [20:02] doesn't dpkg keep a log? you could check in there for what happened [20:15] ok, I checked again and there where indeed PPA packages [20:15] I removed the corresponding lines. But now, how can I roll back to the official kde versions? [20:16] I.e. how can I say "for each installed program that was taken from the PPA repo, uninstall it and install the official package"? [20:18] draqster: ppapurge and reinstall? [20:19] draqster: And its difficult because somethimes names change [20:19] I tried that on kde-workspace, but aptitude didn't automatically purge all the related packages. So do I now have to go through all package and check the Version whether it is ppa? [20:21] <[Raiden]> draqster: try ppapurge [20:22] <[Raiden]> and reinstall kubuntu-desktop [20:22] where do I find that program? [20:22] <[Raiden]> apt-cache search ppapurge [20:22] tried already, didn't find anything [20:24] <[Raiden]> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ppa-purge/0.2.8+bzr56/+build/2041068 [20:24] funny: kubuntu-desktop isn't even installed right now. [20:25] installing kubuntu-desktop gives me KDE 4.6.5 - is that the latest official? [20:27] <[Raiden]> yes. [20:29] solved that one: everything works now [20:29] That brings me to my second problem :-) [20:30] I installed 11.04 on my wife's laptop. Everything went fine, except that when she logs in I see the loading animation and then we are again at the login screen. [20:30] That is with Kubuntu 11.04. I tried Ubuntu 11.04, which lets her logging in. [20:31] Previous versions of Kubuntu worked just fine. [20:33] <[Raiden]> wait until 11.10 :) [20:33] I told her :-) but she dosn't want to wait. And she specifically disliked Ubuntu [20:34] <[Raiden]> ) [20:37] hi everybody, i've migration to kubuntu 11.10 beta2, but i've a problem with the migration to kmail2, abybody can help me, i can't go on, and a window said me to try kmail --migration and something else, nut i don't wrote it and i don't remembre what i've to write to try to solve the prblem [20:42] ricky1966: you can try kmail --help [20:43] try it, but nothing about migration.... === wr is now known as draqster [20:55] i know not to ask if its ok to ask, so im warning...i got 5 machines with kubuntu and i am pulling my hair out....i feel the need to summon a yoda of kubuntu [20:58] so...i want a configuration with maybe roaming profiles like active directory or a way to sync profiles...ill have a windows logon in the mix everyonce and while....maybe some way to store users directories in a single place....but i am on a budget an the $ is running out....what suggestions do you fine peole have? i am looking and samba, nfs, puppet...i would like some kinda groupware....i think just a push would help === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [20:59] these machines have a bit of age.... [21:11] alright how about this, the printer applet lists current print jobs and can show completed ones....the User and Document colums show 'Unknown' and the Printer column is blank, I would realy like to see the document name in the list, any ideas? [21:11] phiscribe: my school does it, so it's definitely possible [21:12] ah avihay, yes possible i belive, just how possbile for my fumbling and how timely hehe [21:13] well, since they don't copy my home directory every-time like wingdows, I guess they have a script that mounts your home folder on logon [21:13] i think the printer applet is an ibus screw up [21:14] probably fstab and and a network file share, i know the top level ideas....sorta, but not so good on implementation, i guess i jsut need to think some more, i like to chat just to solidify my thoughts, thanks for sounding back [21:14] I'm curious aswell [21:15] from what i read, samba can, (in addtion to being a bridge to windows shares) be a windows active directory, this would give me roaming profiles, but i am not sure if a ldap server would do the same, be better and work in win and lin [21:16] what i dont want is what Windows does, make 4-10 gigabyte proviles that have to load on the network each time you boot [21:16] profiles that is [21:17] i need a linux yoda [21:18] <[Raiden]> ) [21:18] yoda are you being entering the room? [21:22] where in kubuntu might i tweak the ibus settings [21:48] I keep getting this error when running sudo apt-get install: "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" even though there's 40GB+ left on the drive [21:50] tomas__: Can you create a bunch of small files on the drive? [21:50] tomas__: Maybe the fs ran out of inodes. [21:52] Example command? I can create new blank text files in Dolphin and save files from Firefox [21:53] Hmm. What partitions do you have for linux? (i.e. output of df command in a pastebin) [21:54] http://pastebin.com/d9JVkQBA [21:55] Ah, boot partition is 100% used.... why? [21:55] tomas__: it's too small [21:56] kernel images are there [21:56] How buig should it be? [21:56] It was fine under Gentoo [21:56] depends on how many kernels do you keep [21:56] <[Raiden]> /var/cache/apt [21:57] I just migrated with a complete reformat so I should only have one [21:57] tomas__: then you should check what remains there [21:58] Yep, maybe there's an old kernel lying around which you no longer need. [21:58] <[Raiden]> du -h /var/cache/apt/archives [21:58] tomas__: try sudo apt-get clean [21:58] http://pastebin.com/5gyrXJXh [21:58] skreech_: did that. [21:59] tomas__: didn't clear up any space? [21:59] Unfortunately no [21:59] he doesn0t have separate /var partition so there is enough free space [21:59] tomas__: On kubuntu 35 mb are enough for /boot for 1 kernel. However, if you install a new kernel, the old kernels still are there. Look at /boot and maybe delete old files. However, be careful. [22:02] Well, I'm currently in 2.6.38.8 and it seems like it wants to upgrade me to 2.6.38.11... I should be OK to delete the 2.6.38.8 files no? [22:02] Today I've changed my system from single monitor (1920x1200) to dual monitor (screen 1: 1280x1024, screen 2: 1920x1200). Now the task bar seems to have width 1920 but as screen 1 is 1280 parts of the task bar are not visible. How could I fix that? [22:03] <[Raiden]> a separate section under boot only creates unnecessary problems [22:04] [Raiden]: What exactly do you mean? [22:05] Oh, and how can I stop nepomuk from starting when I log in? I couldn't find it in Autostart, .profile or .bashrc. (I hate nepomuk, and I don't know why anyone would want to use it.) [22:05] Hi, what's wrong with initrd.img created by update from 10.04.2 to 10.04.3. Since then I have grub error 18. Any ideas for repair? Grub repair and reinstall can't solve this. [22:06] cher: System Settings -> Desktop Search [22:06] cher: just nepomuk or nepomuk+akonsdi alltogether? [22:06] What is akonsdi? [22:06] <[Raiden]> tomas__: a separate section to boot just doesn't make sense to do if no exotic file systems - google tranlator, my english is bad [22:06] THats Akonadi, sry [22:07] Okay, then what's akonadi? [22:07] [Raiden]: Interesting. That's always what I learned to do, coming from the world of Gentoo [22:07] But then they like things to be complicated. [22:07] changed to xubuntu [22:07] cher: http://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM/Akonadi [22:07] exit [22:08] cher: if you don't know what it is, you probably don't need it, Unless you use KDEPIM (kmail and stuff) [22:08] <[Raiden]> tomas__: as they explain the need for? [22:09] No, just the way they said to do it. [22:09] <[Raiden]> :) [22:11] <[Raiden]> tomas__: I did a separate section only 1 time watched reiserfs4. In all other cases not useful [22:12] [Raiden]: Thanks. Good to know [22:13] <[Raiden]> may be still need to encrypt the root fs... [22:15] <[Raiden]> I hope you understand me, I enjoyed the electronic translator :) [22:17] Gonna try resizing the partitions, brb [22:19] Holla! That worked. You guys are geniuses! [22:23] tomas__: was your installation succesful? [22:25] Yes, KPackage kit can now read it's history, etc. which was the initial problem. Except now, I have to start it in a terminal with sudo, or it complains about improper authorization (without giving me a chance in-program to authenticate) === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [23:04] Ok, next on the list, I have no sound from Adobe Flash, but all other sound apps (MPlayer, Amarok, etc.) work fine. [23:06] tomas__: flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound [23:08] Githzerai: Where do I get that> [23:08] repoes :) [23:08] it's in multiverse [23:09] Ok, I;m new to Ubuntu/Debian... apt-get and KPackageKit don't find it. [23:09] tomas__: 11.04? [23:09] yes [23:10] tomas__: go to software sources and enable multiverse repository [23:12] sudo software-properties-kde [23:12] It's enabled... I think... deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty multiverse is checked [23:12] hm, thats wierd [23:12] It's enabled under software-properties-kde [23:13] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin&searchon=names&suite=natty§ion=all [23:13] shows that there is a flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound package in multiverse [23:13] Have you updated package list? [23:14] How do I do that exactly? [23:14] fastest way: sudo apt-get update [23:15] and: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound [23:15] Same thing [23:16] hm, wtf?? [23:16] http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound/ [23:17] It exists in your mirror :/ [23:17] Githzerai: what is extra sound for? i installed the norma adobe-non-free plugin [23:17] Is there a '#' in fornt of deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty multiverse? [23:17] !info flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound [23:17] flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound (source: flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound): Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.0.svn2431-3 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB (Only available for i386) [23:18] g0rs: it enables flash to use pulseaudio [23:18] woah you can do that? [23:18] Githzerai: can we disable pulseaudio and use oss or ALSA? [23:18] g0rs: yes we can, but why? :) [23:19] Githzerai: what is the big deal about pulse audio anyway? [23:19] Githzerai: why have they changed alsa or oss with pulse audio? [23:19] the description for extrasound says it is for esound and oss [23:19] :/ [23:20] g0rs: check PA wiki, too long for IRC [23:20] Githzerai: will do [23:20] Why disable pulseaudio? Because it sucks, that's why. [23:21] With alsa I had full control of my sound card. Now with pulse audio I cannot even change the volume on left separately from right. [23:21] toyowheelin: PA is a successor too Esound, so Flash uses Esound code to output to PA [23:21] cher: exactly. it seemed like lot of features of a sound card are not enabled or visible by default [23:22] Githzerai: oh I see [23:22] Yes, and it's difficult to enable them, maybe even impossible. I've tried for 10 minutes or so and failed. I just can't find out how to gain control over my sound card again. [23:22] I had nos such problems with PA [23:22] cher: I wanted to disable PA and switch back to ALSA or OSS [23:24] I just don't know how to disable pulse audio. [23:24] cher: uninstall it. [23:24] cher: cant you just uninstall it? [23:24] cher: in the mixer just right click the playback device and hit split channels [23:25] toyowheelin: Okay, thanks! Now the next thing I'd like to know is how I control the headphone separately. [23:26] And how to enable bass boost and such stuff. [23:26] hmm not sure about bass boost [23:26] cher: for bass boost you need an eqalizer [23:26] :/ [23:27] An equalizer? Erm no, it's just a flag of my sound card, and it used to be accessible in Alsa. [23:27] well if its built into the card you can simply open alsamixer in a terminal and turn it on but thats not a very clean solution [23:27] is it still accesible? [23:28] try alsamixer -c 0 [23:28] see. PA is a server that runs on top of ALSA [23:28] Well, alsamixer on a terminal doesn't work properly as long as pulse audio is running. [23:28] cher hint : F6 [23:28] cher: the selection of bass boost should [23:28] just the volume controls will be overridden [23:29] cher: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PulseAudioStoleMyVolumes [23:30] check that out also [23:30] may be helpful in getting PA under control [23:30] toyowheelin: it basically sums to F6 :) [23:31] I'll just uninstall this pulseaudio crap. It sucks. [23:31] that's your choice... and opinion ;) [23:32] That I cannot change the volume of my headphones independently of the speakers is not an opinion, it's a fact. [23:33] And that pulseaudio hides sound card features instead of making them accessible also is not an opinion but a fact. [23:33] yeah its kinda annoying [23:33] cher: alsamixer is accessible on terminal [23:34] g0rs: almost all settings in alsamixer get overridden by pulse [23:34] Yes, and what's the point in that if pulseaudio took control of volume control? Even in alsamixer I nolonger can change the headphone volume independently :( [23:34] cher: well, I wouldn't argue on how you use it, but I for one don't have much use of all that options in my face all the time [23:34] toyowheelin: i could increase or decrease volume with alsamixer and the effects are immediate [23:34] I set it up once and thats about it [23:35] I change the volume of my headphones regularly, not just once. [23:35] At least I'd like to. [23:35] g0rs: yes then change the pulse volume and anything you changed will be reset [23:35] toyowheelin: its better to disable PA. [23:37] yeah its not really a big deal for me but I can see how others might be pretty frustrated with PA [23:37] What about bluetooth headphones? [23:37] what about them [23:38] Well, never managet to get zhem to work with ALSA [23:38] *managed [23:38] oh [23:38] sry for typos [23:38] never tried it [23:38] Also, there is Veromix plasmoid [23:39] which is similar to Pavucontrol in Gnome [23:41] hmm I will have to try it [23:43] toyowheelin: music streaming from your smartphone to your PC via bluetooth is a lot of fun :) [23:43] how do you do that [23:43] suppose your phone has to support it [23:44] Pulseaudio :) [23:44] It's a server, so you just set your phone to use it as a sound output. [23:45] Setting up the phone is a bit tricky [23:45] yeah figured it would be [23:45] but linux on N900 is just the same as any :) [23:48] I'm just waiting for bluetooth tethering in Bledevil+Plasma NetworkManagement, so that I can say that KDE has everything I want....