[00:11] <bazhang> shawty guy ?
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Is there a reason why it's so hard for some people to understand the concept of an end goal? (Not ranting, I'm actually curious).
[01:00] <bazhang> galeon?
[01:01] <bazhang> he knows what he does *not want
[01:01] <Jordan_U> Yes, but it's a common problem I have when trying to help people.
[01:01] <bazhang> so he's fixed on only using this script to get that server going.
[01:02] <bazhang> and describes it alternately , depending on the channel
[01:03] <Jordan_U> bazhang: Do you think he understood my question when I asked his end goal? Any insight more generally?
[01:04] <bazhang> Jordan_U, doubt he clicked the link. he's described the script completely differently in #bash , so who knows what his end goal is (he seems to be unclear on it himself)
[01:06] <pangolin> !guidelines > ETERNA
[01:09] <bazhang> nothing suspicious there, at all
[01:12] <pangolin> Jordan_U: there is your chance at trying to figure out his end goal
[01:12] <pangolin> said he is pasting his script
[01:13] <Jordan_U> I'm leaving in a few minutes anyway.
[03:32] <bazhang> apt-get -b install ? any reasong to use that?
[03:32] <bazhang> err reason
[03:43] <pangolin> Compile source packages after downloading them.
[03:43] <bazhang> yep. just read the man page
[03:44] <pangolin> would there be an advantage to compiling the source from repo as opposed to installing the deb from source?
[03:44] <pangolin> err the deb fro  repo*
[03:44] <pangolin> from*
[04:43] <bazhang> arch is a fork of gentoo
[04:47] <rww> wat
[04:52] <bazhang> according to gentoofan
[04:52] <bazhang> and gentoo came from BSD
[04:52] <ldunn> whut
[04:53] <bazhang> therefore arch is related to BSD!
[04:53] <bazhang> QED!
[04:53] <bazhang> all claims by the above
[05:01] <bazhang> what is with the sheer number of trolls of late?
[05:02] <ldunn> 5
[05:02] <pangolin> full moon?
[05:02] <Flannel> Moon is 3/4th
[05:02] <ldunn> oops, I missed the "with" in there.
[05:03] <pangolin> ok so it isn't the moon
[05:03] <Flannel> Could be the collective bad economies of the world == more folks unemployed
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> Moon face is 86% illuminated. || Moon phase: Waxing gibbous || Next full moon is on Tuesday 11 October
[05:03] <pangolin> that is plausible Flannel
[05:03] <bazhang> ldunn, heh nice
[05:04] <Flannel> It's sort of the inverse corollary to the eternal september.
[05:14] <rww> I forget, when do we open -release-party?
[05:14] <bazhang> day of?
[05:18] <Flannel> 24-48h beforehand, I think.
[05:28] <bazhang> * Cock-for-GirlyGi (b89a749b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.154.116.155) has joined #ubuntu
[05:28] <ldunn> yep, -ot too.
[05:28] <bazhang> thats offensive
[05:36] <elky> that's not only offensive, it's harassment
[05:37] <elky> though i don't see the bit where you asked him to change in #u
[05:39] <pangolin> now using nick trollytrol.
[05:39] <elky> imaginative
[05:40] <pangolin> I didn't ask the first time but put it in the remove message.
[05:40] <pangolin> yeah they asked for a nick that is what i suggested to them.
[05:40]  * elky facepalms
[05:42] <FemaleDog> Hi I am banned on #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:42] <elky> You will remain that way.
[05:42] <FemaleDog> Why?
[05:42] <elky> Our channels are not a waiting room for harassing people.
[05:43] <pangolin> Could you please select a nick that is not provocative, will make our irc experience so much nicer if we don't have to fight over this.
[05:43] <FemaleDog> I did not say anything in channel to harass anyone
[05:43] <elky> Your nick said plenty.
[05:43] <trollytrol> ok
[05:43] <pangolin> thank you.
[05:43] <trollytrol> But it was not intended to offend anyone
[05:44] <trollytrol> I mean who on the channel got offended
[05:44] <pangolin> everybody who asked you to change it
[05:44] <trollytrol> pangolin: I did change it
[05:44] <pangolin> maybe you are not aware of our channel guidelines
[05:44] <elky> I have zero intention of giving you a list to work through.
[05:44] <pangolin> !guidelines
[05:45] <trollytrol> Its not like I did a nick like (Insert someone else's name here) (Insert curse word here)
[05:45] <trollytrol> pangolin: NNow I am aware so can I be allowed in
[05:45] <pangolin> into -offtopic? not up to me.
[05:45] <pangolin> but I don't see it happening tonight
[05:46] <pangolin> please just follow the guidelines and we won't have any problems.
[05:46] <trollytrol> I am sorry, I had zero intention of harming anyone and will follow the lineguide from now
[05:46] <pangolin> much appreciated. Have a good night.
[05:46] <trollytrol> If I put the name of someone else and then a bad word that would not be nice but this is more minor
[05:47] <trollytrol> pangolin: So can you remove the ban
[05:47] <pangolin> not for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <Flannel> trollytrol: You're currently in #ubuntu, that should be sufficient for now.
[05:47] <trollytrol> pangolin: Why?
[05:47] <trollytrol> Flannel: But I want offtopic
[05:47] <pangolin> trollytrol: I am not an op there and two ops from that channel have indicated they won't
[05:48] <Flannel> trollytrol: That's fine.  You won't be back there until you've demonstrated that you can handle it.
[05:48] <trollytrol> Flannel: But I won't do anything bad
[05:48] <Flannel> trollytrol: That's good.  We appreciate it.
[05:48] <trollytrol> Flannel: SO allow me in
[05:49] <Flannel> trollytrol: No, you've lost that privledge for now.
[05:49] <trollytrol> Flannel: Just for one very minor thing?
[05:50] <trollytrol> Don't be so mean ... See I being nice here
[05:50] <Flannel> trollytrol: If you're viewing that as a minor thing, then yeah.  But it's just a minor ban, so don't worry too much about it.  You've already said you'll be better in the future, so I'm sure you'll get back into #ubuntu-offtopic in no time.
[05:50] <trollytrol> Flannel: How much time
[05:51] <Flannel> trollytrol: Once you've demonstrated that you will follow the guidelines from now on, which you already indicated that you would, we just want to follow up on that.
[05:51] <trollytrol> Flannel: How much time
[05:51] <trollytrol> Flannel: I can go to #kubuntu-offtopic then
[05:52] <trollytrol> or xubuntu-offtopic
[05:52] <Flannel> trollytrol: No.  And this is starting to become circular, is there anything else?
[05:52] <trollytrol> Flannel: But I did nothing in those channels
[05:52] <Flannel> trollytrol: You're in #ubuntu, that'll be a good place to demonstrate you can be in good standing.
[05:54] <trollytrol> Flannel: This is OP abuse
[05:54] <Flannel> trollytrol: It is not.
[05:54] <trollytrol> Why do you treat new people like that
[05:55] <trollytrol> I did not direct abuse at any specific individual
[05:55] <Flannel> trollytrol: but if you feel like you've been mistreated, you're welcome to file an appeal.  Details can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess
[05:55] <trollytrol> Flannel: Who handles that. people like you itself?
[05:55] <Flannel> I don't.
[05:56] <trollytrol> You don't what?
[05:56] <Flannel> I don't handle that.
[05:56] <Flannel> trollytrol: You were being inappropriate, and you weren't receptive to being told as much.
[05:56] <trollytrol> Flannel: Yes but probably people with views like you
[05:56] <trollytrol> Flannel: I did change the name as requested
[05:56] <Flannel> trollytrol: And to be completely frank, it was directed at an individual.
[05:57] <trollytrol> Flannel: It was not
[05:57] <trollytrol> Flannel: I've never been here this is my first time here
[05:57] <Flannel> trollytrol: anyway, yes, it would be other people in the Ubuntu community who handle the appeals process.
[05:58] <trollytrol> Flannel: Ok I'm going to another distro then the community here is terrible
[05:58] <Flannel> trollytrol: I bade you good luck.  Have a nice day.
[05:59] <trollytrol> Flannel: Can you suggest an ubuntu like distro for newbies at least be that kind
[05:59] <Flannel> trollytrol: give mint a try, some folks like it.
[05:59] <trollytrol> And its very bad of you to accuse me of directing it at someone when its my first time here
[06:00] <trollytrol> is mint's community better in terms of OP's etc
[06:00] <Flannel> trollytrol: I don't know
[06:00] <Flannel> but almost all IRC channels have operators
[06:01] <trollytrol> Flannel: Im fine with Op's but want good ones not like you
[06:01] <Flannel> trollytrol: You'll just have to take your chances.  Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but I don't have a list of folks not like me.
[06:02] <trollytrol> txwikinger: Ok, but if I want to come back and am nice ... How long will it take for ban removal in offtopic
[06:02] <trollytrol> Flannel:
[06:02] <trollytrol> an approx time
[06:03] <Flannel> trollytrol: If you come back and demonstrate good behavior I don't think it'd end up being very long.  We just need some evidence that you've changed and all that.  Right now we don't have much of anything.
[06:03] <trollytrol> Also I am in kubuntu-offtopic now if I move to kubuntu and come to #kubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic its fine
[06:04] <Flannel> trollytrol: You're not banned there, so yes, it would be fine.  That channel still follows the same IRC guidelines though, just be aware.
[06:04] <elky> unless you break the rules there and earn more bans
[06:05] <trollytrol> Flannel: elky Ok, I've got to go now thanks ... if you se a user here called GirlyGirl tell her I was looking for her
[06:05] <trollytrol> thanks
[06:05] <elky> No doubt left at all
[06:06] <Flannel> @mark trollytrol
[08:08] <Calinou> so... what
[08:38] <ikonia> Calinou: can we help ?
[09:03] <Myrtti> Calinou: hi?
[09:15] <Calinou> yes, I got banned in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:16] <oCean> and you remember why, don't you?
[09:17] <Calinou> I do, swearing
[09:19] <oCean> Calinou: I'm not an OP in -offtopic myself, so I have no possibility to remove your ban
[09:19] <Calinou> ok
[09:19] <oCean> while you wait for an OP that does, you may want to read our channels guidelines and code of conduct
[09:19] <oCean> !guidelines > Calinou
[09:19] <oCean> !CoC > Calinou
[09:19] <ikonia> Calinou: one moment please.
[09:19] <Calinou> ok
[09:20] <ikonia> @btlogin
[09:24] <ikonia> Calinou: why did you type "fuck" multiple times in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <Calinou> because... I was angry? wasn't that self-explanatory?
[09:24] <ikonia> no
[09:24] <ikonia> hence why I'm asking
[09:25] <ikonia> Calinou: you actually said nothing in the channel other than the word fuck multiple times
[09:25] <Calinou> I rarely speak on -offtopic, but I often read
[09:26] <ikonia> ok, so you know the channels policy on bad language then if you often read
[09:30] <Calinou> yes but I got very upset, that's why
[09:31] <Myrtti> I get very upset every day
[09:32] <Myrtti> I still dont curse in Ubuntu IRC channels
[09:32] <Myrtti> if I would, these other ops would kick me
[09:32] <Myrtti> and ban if I wouldnt stop
[09:34] <ikonia> Calinou: you know the rules, yet you seem unable to control yourself in #ubuntu-offtopic and make random swearing outbursts without any provokation and you have no mitigating reasons for this. The ban will not be removed at this time
[09:34] <Calinou> ok then...
[09:41] <ikonia> Calinou: please leave this channel at this time.
[09:41] <Calinou> ok
 can u help me to find internet part time job?
[09:56] <Ben64> in pm, same guy as before that got banned
[09:58] <oCean> Ben64: thanks for letting us know
[09:58] <Ben64> np
[10:03] <bazhang> GirlyGirl, hi
[10:03] <GirlyGirl> Hi I just recieved this pm http://imageshack.us/f/441/snapshot11f.png/
[10:03] <LjL> who from
[10:03] <bazhang> thanks for reporting, others have done so
[10:03] <bazhang> adriana
[10:04] <GirlyGirl> Ok thanks ..
[10:05] <LjL> gone
[10:06] <GirlyGirl> LjL: Oh sorry forgot to part channel
[10:06] <LjL> np
[10:06] <oCean> I got nothing (on join that is)
[10:06] <LjL> oCean: me neither but vibhav reported it too on -irc
[10:07] <LjL> i'd say two reports are enough
[10:07] <bazhang> tried to PM , no response
[10:07] <oCean> and head_victim reported it in #u channel, so that would def be enough
[10:07] <oCean> earlier we had this spam too, forgot if it was same range
[11:24] <Myrtti> @now utc
 STO BULLYING MW
[20:23] <bazhang> !
[20:24] <oCean> I'm a ruthless, disrespectful, bullying op
[20:24] <oCean> I know
[20:24] <bazhang> freispeachk!
 hey im completely new to irc
[20:32] <bazhang> odd, there are entries in the ban tracker then
[23:18] <pangolin> !google  VampsDaBeast
[23:18] <pangolin> !google  > VampsDaBeast