[00:26] <toyowheelin> wow more people than I thought there would be
[00:29] <Salt> party up in the hizzouse
[00:29] <toyowheelin> :0
[00:32] <toyowheelin> so is this just for people running gnome ubuntu or is kubuntu fine as well?
[00:32] <toyowheelin> :P
[00:34] <Salt> oh, there's at least one k-head in here
[00:34]  * Salt peers in valorie's general direction
[00:35] <toyowheelin> lol yeah I got tired of gnome and the new direction that ubuntu was going so I switched to kde
[00:36] <Salt> i actually just tried lubuntu out and have really enjoyed the direction
[00:36] <toyowheelin> which DE is that
[00:37] <Salt> lxde
[00:37] <Salt> it really reminds me of gnome2
[00:37] <Salt> but way faster
[00:37] <toyowheelin> oh right... yeah I think I tried that one before as well
[00:37] <toyowheelin> dont remember why I didnt like it
[00:38] <toyowheelin> menu looks like old windows also
[00:38] <toyowheelin> lol
[00:39] <Salt> eh, it's better than flux
[00:40] <toyowheelin> yeah I am not really a fan of minimal desktops
[00:40] <toyowheelin> when you start getting into the box desktops they get too stripped down and I just feel like I need to do everything from a terminal
[00:41] <Salt> well that's part of the point now isn't it?
[00:41] <Salt> terminal makes things much quicker for many tasks :P
[00:41] <toyowheelin> eh I suppose 
[00:41] <toyowheelin> brb
[00:41] <Salt> but yeah, i dig openbox when i want to go minimal, gives just enough to use gui stuff
[00:48] <toyowheelin> yeah when I am using a gui I usually dont really want to use a terminal 
[00:49] <toyowheelin> but I always seem to find myself opening one as soon as things get weird
[00:51] <toyowheelin> are you running the beta release of 11.10?
[01:30] <aendruk> hello toyowheelin 
[01:30] <toyowheelin> hi aendruk
[01:30] <aendruk> you on the mailing list?
[01:31] <toyowheelin> no I just found out there was a ubuntu community in WA
[01:31] <toyowheelin> lol
[01:31] <toyowheelin> havent dug that deep yet
[01:31] <toyowheelin> found the FB page
[01:32] <aendruk> we'll be amassing in person for the 11.10 release next week, and you're welcome to join
[01:33] <toyowheelin> hmm yeah I might try to make the drive down
[01:36] <toyowheelin> what kinda things usually happen at release parties?
[01:40] <aendruk> usually some combination of food and informal discussion, and few people might be getting help with installations
[01:40] <toyowheelin> ah
[01:42] <aendruk> it's really just an excuse to meet in person, since it's difficult to feel like we're a "community" just over irc/email
[01:42] <toyowheelin> yeah thats understandable
[01:44] <toyowheelin> kinda surprised that people still use mailing lists
[01:44] <aendruk> we have a fair amount of cross-membership with GSLUG, too. that's a much larger group, meets in seattle every month. meeting tomorrow at google fremont, i believe.
[01:45] <toyowheelin> yeah I used to attend TACLUG meetings back in college
[01:45] <toyowheelin> :D
[01:48] <aendruk> Salt: is asimov a uw server?
[01:50] <toyowheelin> oh yeah I was going to ask if anyone knew of any ubuntu repos that were local
[01:51] <toyowheelin> figure it might speed up package downloads slightly
[01:54] <aendruk> I don't know of anything beyond Ubuntu's official list, though there was something mentioned on the mailing list a year or two ago
[01:55] <toyowheelin> ah
[01:55] <toyowheelin> it would be awesome to get a comcast mirror :P
[01:56] <toyowheelin> more likely to get a .edu mirror like UW though
[01:58] <aendruk> people generally like OSUOSL, I believe
[01:58] <aendruk> not speedy, but there are supporters around
[01:59] <toyowheelin> oregon state?
[02:01] <aendruk> that's it
=== Toyo is now known as toyowheelin
[02:38] <valorie> oh, I missed our newest visitor, boo
[02:39]  * valorie is blogging for Ada Lovelace Day
[02:40] <toyowheelin> who me
[02:40] <toyowheelin> I am still here
[03:08] <valorie> hello!
[03:09] <toyowheelin> hi
[03:19] <toyowheelin> time to go, bbl
[04:58] <ievans3024> hello toyo! welcome welcome. I too, use KDE because gnome has become this strange, ungainly monster
[04:58] <ievans3024> for me, at least.
[04:59] <ievans3024> while i'm on here, if anybody's watching: how exactly do mailing lists work?
[05:01] <ievans3024> i want to participate, but i have no clue how to sign up, what to expect, or what is proper ML etiquette
[05:40] <valorie> I'm here
[05:40] <valorie> mail lists are my favorite; I got started online with them after real-time chatting
[05:40] <valorie> our launchpad page should have the link -- you can sign up on the webpage
[05:41] <valorie> they work by mail -- you send an email to the list address, and then it is distributed to all subscribers
[05:41] <valorie> if you reply to a post, please clip all but necessary verbiage
[05:42] <valorie> and top-posting makes some people angry
[05:43] <valorie> ievans3024: still here?
[05:43] <valorie> ^^^
[05:43] <valorie> oh, also: most mls are archived, and searchable
[05:43] <ievans3024> yeah sorry, watching deep space nine
[05:44] <valorie> so the archives are a wonderful resource
[05:44] <ievans3024> thanks
[05:44] <valorie> but also you should think carefully about posting personal information, because it will be found
[05:44]  * valorie doesn't care, but some people do