[00:00] <qin> yerac: Does gnome-apperance-properities started from terminal (or Alt-F2) works?
[00:01] <yerac> no, it says i need to instal gnome-control-center, when i want to do this it says it is already installed with newest version
[00:03] <qin> yerac: What version is it? lsb_release -sc
[00:03] <yerac> natty
[00:04] <Stockholm_Angel> Hi, how to make a 4gb system only backup on my intenal harddrive?
[00:04] <bazhang> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/sis900-pci-ethernet-wont-connect-to-network-617944/   Chwoka this may be relevant
[00:04] <tux-matt> so is xorg x window manager is preinstalled in ubuntu 11.04
[00:05] <bazhang> tux-matt, desktop edition or server
[00:05] <qin> yerac: No clue, sudo apr-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-control-center
[00:05] <tux-matt> desktop ediditon
[00:05] <bazhang> tux-matt, then yes
[00:05] <tux-matt> but i cant see it what woud it be under
[00:06] <qin> *apt-get update
[00:06] <bazhang> Stockholm_Angel, you mean / ? excluding home?
[00:06] <tux-matt> bazhang how can i run it or can i
[00:06] <Stockholm_Angel> bazhang, no like the old xubuntu eeepc machines had
[00:06] <bazhang> tux-matt, what do you mean by run it
[00:07] <Stockholm_Angel> bazhang,  where if anything went wrong it could be used to reinstall a new system from the 4gb partition
[00:07] <tux-matt> bazhang like you are running xchat right now
[00:07] <bazhang> Stockholm_Angel, sorry not clear; you wish to do a complete backup of your eeepc install? like an image or the like?
[00:08] <Stockholm_Angel> an image so i can make sure i can install ubuntu again
[00:08] <bazhang> Stockholm_Angel, clonezilla? remastersys? like that?
[00:08] <Stockholm_Angel> i am a noob
[00:08] <bazhang> Stockholm_Angel, then take a look at those two options? decide if thats what you need?
[00:09] <bazhang> Stockholm_Angel, certainly only *you* know what you want, check those and see if they fit your needs/demands
[00:10] <Stockholm_Angel> bazhang, thanks
[00:12] <yerac> this sucks
[00:14] <bars> #ubuntu-ru
[00:17] <Chwoka> well okay! i'm getting pings to the router, i'm showing up on the dhcp client list, the lights on the port stopped flashing -- the router is finally recognizing the computer. but now i need to get ubuntu to recognize the router.
[00:18] <fayimora> hey guys please i need help..i am installing ubuntu now on xbox and its stuck at the "ready when you are area"
[00:19] <fayimora> i restarted the whole process and it still got suck there
[00:19] <fayimora> how do i get pass this area?
[00:19] <rww> fayimora: which version of Ubuntu?
[00:20] <fayimora> 11.0
[00:20] <fayimora> 11.04
[00:20] <fayimora> rww: 11.04
[00:20] <rww> fayimora: make your username all lowercase
[00:21] <ethern0t> haiil
[00:21] <fayimora> rww: they are all in lowercase
[00:21] <crash1hd> hey all I just got a new motherboard ASUS F1A75-V Pro it has 6 SATA ports 1-4 are SATA and 5 & 6 are PATA but when i boot if I have 6 drives attached by default it wants to boot from 5 the PATA drive can some explain why it doesnt just boot from 1 the first in the 6?
[00:21] <Gale0n> Hi
[00:22] <rww> fayimora: fun times. no idea then, that's the usual reason Ubiquity does that
[00:22] <Gale0n> how do I echo out the permissions of a file ?
[00:22] <Gale0n> eg +x
[00:22] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | fayimora
[00:22] <fayimora> rww: :(
[00:22] <jrib> Gale0n: why?
[00:22] <fayimora> ubottu: ok woukd do
[00:22] <Gale0n> For my installer script
[00:23] <jrib> Gale0n: what does it do?
[00:23] <Gale0n> Installs a server
[00:23] <jrib> Gale0n: what server?
[00:23] <Gale0n> A gaming one
[00:25] <fayimora> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/screenshot20111008at012.png/ rww
[00:25] <yerac> how to get back my gnome-appearance-properties???
[00:25] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: Just change the boot order in the BIOS to whatever you want.
[00:25] <rww> fayimora: the password field isn't optional.
[00:25] <Gale0n> yerac: Was it uninstalled ?
[00:26] <yerac> idk, i just installed 3 libs and restarted
[00:26] <yerac> now my gnome theme is changed and i am missing Appearance in System menu
[00:27] <fayimora> rww: yaaaaay
[00:27] <fayimora> thanks
[00:27] <Gale0n> Try typing gnome-appearance-propertie
[00:27] <Gale0n> ups
[00:27] <rww> fayimora: welcome
[00:27] <Gale0n> gnome-appearance-properties *
[00:27] <yerac> command is missing
[00:27] <Gale0n> Then do sudo apt-get install gnome-appearance-propertie
[00:27] <Gale0n> meh
[00:27] <Gale0n> sudo apt-get install gnome-appearance-properties *
[00:28] <Gale0n> Yo a_teammate
[00:28] <yerac> it is installed
[00:28] <a_teammate> yo Gale0n :)
[00:28] <Gale0n> hm
[00:28] <a_teammate> hi all
[00:28] <Gale0n> Do you use compiz-effect ?
[00:29] <yerac> no
[00:29] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, ok but would I benifit by connecting my boot drive to 5 or just leave it at 1? cause in Disk util it shows 5,6 then 1 2 3 4 or 6 as sda and 5 as sdb and then 1 as sdc where if 6 is not plugged in then 5 becomes sda?
[00:29] <yerac> and there is no package "gnome-appearance-properties"
[00:29] <Gale0n> ?
[00:30] <yerac> it say unable to locate that package
[00:30] <Gale0n> Try re-install gnome
[00:30] <Gale0n> sudo apt-get install gnome
[00:30] <molgan> yes :)
[00:31] <yerac> we will see what happens... reinstalling
[00:31] <Gale0n> KK
[00:31] <Gale0n> I'll be waiting, with help
[00:31] <molgan> question.. anyone know any command line args to get the current user's (ie you) uptime?
[00:31] <yerac> thanks
[00:31] <Gale0n> NP
[00:32] <yerac> 7%
[00:32] <SIFTU> molgan: "w"?
[00:32] <Gale0n> molgan: uptime
[00:32] <Gale0n> Oh, wait
[00:33] <molgan> uptime reports system uptime only
[00:33] <Gale0n> molgan: who
[00:33] <Chwoka> so, wait. in the network connections window, in the box that says "Device MAC Address," is it supposed to be the mac address for the ethernet port you're using, or for the router?
[00:33] <molgan> I am looking for user uptime in hh:mm:ss
[00:33] <JonnyR> Chwoka, it will be your network card MAC
[00:33] <Gale0n> hmm
[00:34] <Chwoka> okay cool.
[00:34] <Chwoka> AHA! I DID IT!
[00:34] <JonnyR> What did you go Chwoka? :)
[00:34]  * JonnyR just joined the chat
[00:35] <Chwoka> I've been struggling wit the chat all day to get my computer on the internet
[00:35] <JonnyR> cool, glad you got it working.
[00:35] <JonnyR> Remember what you did for next time. :p
[00:36] <peterson> guys, I'm having a weird problem in Oneiric. Ubuntu looks are all messed up. Apps are ugly, using a spartan gtk theme; I've previously set faenza icon theme and I can't set it back. Can any help me restore its appearance or this isn't the right place to ask for help if I'm in Oneiric?
[00:36] <Chwoka> my router and my computer were acting like the boys and the girls at middle school prom, all standin' on other sides of the gym and trying to ignore the other half
[00:36] <Chwoka> and i gave 'em a nice hot injection of hormones!
[00:36] <Chwoka> alright, i am out of here!
[00:37] <Jordan_U> peterson: #ubuntu+1
[00:37] <Gale0n> Sorry, molgan, I can't seen to find an answer :(
[00:37] <th0r> molgan: w
[00:37] <Gale0n> th0r: won't work, I suggested it already
[00:38] <SIFTU> molgan: you will have to script it, by converting the time of login to epoch and the current time, finding the difference and converting it back
[00:39] <peterson> Jordan_U: Thanks! =D
[00:39] <Jordan_U> perlstein: You're welcome :)
[00:39] <molgan> SIFTU: figured as much.
[00:39] <andrewh192> hey, how do i create a "slideshow" of background images like there is already there?
[00:40] <molgan> @ guys trying to help me, thanks for trying. :)
[00:40] <Gale0n> NP molgan
[00:41] <Gale0n> yerac: How's the re-install going
[00:41] <molgan> oh, does anyone know how to use grep well enough?
[00:41] <Gale0n> molgan: I could
[00:42] <robin0800> crash1hd, I think you need to adjust your bios as I have an asus motherboard and that also defaulted to the pata drive and not sata
[00:42] <Gale0n> Hey, no one answered me yet :/
[00:42] <Gale0n> How do I check if a file = -x only
[00:43] <molgan> Gale0n: I don't know much about it, any indepth manuals on it?
[00:43] <crash1hd> robin0800, so did you put your boot drive on the pata or the sata?
[00:43] <molgan> I've search google..
[00:43] <Gale0n> molgan: no, sorry :(
[00:43] <molgan> thanks.
[00:43] <Gale0n> All my knowledge was self-taught
[00:43] <Gale0n> No prob
[00:43] <th0r> molgan: check the linux documentation project...tldp.org
[00:43] <yerac> Gale0n: what after reinstall? restart?
[00:44] <robin0800> crash1hd, on the sata look in the bios menu under boot
[00:44] <molgan> Gale0n: ah, ok. and lol that's how I have learned linux so far
[00:44] <molgan> th0r: looking....
[00:44] <Gale0n> yerac: Try now gnome-appearance-properties
[00:44] <th0r> molgan: might start with the bash scripting guides that are there
[00:44] <Gale0n> If it doesn't work, re-start computer
[00:44] <crash1hd> robin0800, yeah I have it set to sata and I changed the boot order i just cant figure it out
[00:46] <robin0800> crash1hd, mine had an entry below the normal boot order that said something like configure disk drives its that one that was wrong
[00:47] <Gale0n> How do I check if a file is -x only, and then echo it out ?
[00:48] <Gale0n> I tried ls, and find
[00:48] <SIFTU> Gale0n: find should do it
[00:48] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: Don't worry about how drives are enumerated, all Ubuntu configuration files use UUIDs so that drive order doesn't matter. On many machines it will even change from one boot to the next so you should not depend on it anyway.
[00:48] <Gale0n> Find didn't
[00:48] <Gale0n> I wanna echo it out
[00:48] <Gale0n> I use a for loop
[00:48] <Gale0n> It won't work :(
[00:48] <SIFTU> Gale0n: seems to work for me
[00:48] <Jordan_U> Gale0n: What is your entire end goal? Please give as much detail as possible.
[00:48] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, thanks
[00:49] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: You're welcome.
[00:49] <bazhang> Gale0n, minecraft server?
[00:49] <SIFTU> Gale0n: find -perm 700 -exec echo {} \;
[00:49] <Gale0n> bazhang: No, Sauerbraten server
[00:49] <SIFTU> Gale0n: replace your permissions you want to search for
[00:49] <Gale0n> Jordan_U: I wanna echo out if a file is executable, using a for loop to list the files
[00:50] <Jordan_U> Gale0n: That's not an end goal. That's a step toward a larger goal (your real end goal): http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#goal
[00:51] <Gale0n> I wanna check for permissions of the files, in order to block out a part of a script, using an "if" statement
[00:51] <SIFTU> Gale0n: or "find  . -executable"
[00:51] <yerac> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:51] <yerac>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-games-extra-data_2.30.0-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[00:51] <yerac> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:51] <Jordan_U> Gale0n: That's still not an end goal. Please read the link I gave you.
[00:52] <Gale0n> Hmm
[00:52] <yerac> i will restart
[00:52] <yerac> brbr
[00:53] <Gale0n> I'm trying to list the files with executable permissions (with a for loop) and then use that to see if a auto-permission script should be enabled
[00:54] <SIFTU> Gale0n: why do you need  for loop
[00:54] <SIFTU> Gale0n: why not use find and output it to a file and process that if you need
[00:55] <Jordan_U> Gale0n: That's still not an end goal.
[00:55] <Gale0n> Otherwise I have to re-write all the files to be checked, one by one, with its own command
[00:55] <Gale0n> Jordan_U: yes it is :/
[00:55] <SIFTU> Gale0n: ask in #bash
[00:55] <Gale0n> OK
[00:56] <yerak_> Gale0n: i restarted, nothing changed
[00:56] <yerak_> do u have more ideas?
[00:56] <Gale0n> yerak_: No, sorry :(
[00:57] <Jordan_U> Gale0n: From earlier comments you've made I would assume that your end goal is "To make a script that automates the installation of a Sauerbraten server". But I would expect that such an installation script already exists so I'm wondering why you need to write a script of your own. End goal means end of the line, top level, what you're actually trying to accomplish.
[00:57] <yerak_> Gale0n: th problem appear after i update ubutu from  xx.xx.08 to xx.xx.11
[00:57] <Gale0n> yerak: Type unity
[00:57] <Gale0n> In terminal
[00:58] <Gale0n> That's the new GUI
[00:58] <Gale0n> Or wairt
[00:58] <Gale0n> Wait *
[00:58] <Gale0n> yerak_: Type nohup unity &
[00:59] <SIFTU> Gale0n: you explained it different in #bash
[00:59] <SIFTU> Gale0n: or "find  . -executable -exec <function> \;"
[01:00] <Gale0n> SIFTU I tried that
[01:00] <Gale0n> Also, <function> = $i
[01:00] <SIFTU> Gale0n: does the function accept a filename
[01:00] <Gale0n> A few
[01:00] <SIFTU> Gale0n: or "find  . -executable -exec <function> {} \;"
[01:02] <yerac> Gale0n: i typed unitiy and got unity and then everything froze, what should i type now
[01:03] <yerac> nohup unity?
[01:03] <Gale0n> yerac: You should've done "nohup unity &"
[01:03] <Gale0n> Note the "&" at the end!
[01:03] <ETERNA> DON'T USE GNOME 3!
[01:03] <ETERNA> IT CAUSES ISSUES WITH UBUNTU!
[01:03] <yerac> well i was fast... let we see now nohup
[01:03] <th0r> ETERNA: stop screaming
[01:03] <Gale0n> ETERNA: no caps
[01:03] <tflgen2> Hi everyone. I'm trying to use Xmonad and would like to get rid of GDM as my desktop manager and have login only from terminal. When I do this and start the computer with a login terminal, I cannot get X to start when running startx, it just crashes. I'm using 10.04 32bit ubuntu
[01:04] <ETERNA> ok... sorry I just hate gnome 3
[01:04] <th0r> and I just hate script kiddies who scream
[01:04] <ETERNA> I know what a script kiddie is and I am SO not one.
[01:04] <Gale0n> gnome3's cool
[01:04] <Jordan_U> th0r: Name calling isn't needed or appropriate.
[01:05] <ETERNA> GNOME3 sux. I think that Canonical should write it's own GUI library that doesn't suck.
[01:05] <Gale0n> for i in sauer_server server monitor env.sh utils/newserver.sh utils/convert utils/luapp utils/keygen utils/shell.rb utils/shell.pl; find -executable -exec $i {}; done
[01:05] <hulkhogan> l
[01:05] <Gale0n> SIFTU: Would that work
[01:06] <ETERNA> If i'm script kiddie, then Shakespeare's illiterate.
[01:06] <Jordan_U> ETERNA: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not for ranting about how you dislike GNOME3. Please stay on topic.
[01:06] <yerak_> Gale0n: same thing as unity, it froze
[01:07] <Gale0n> yerak_: I hope you never exited the terminal ..
[01:07] <ETERNA> I know. I am warning people not to use Gnome3 because it breaks Ubuntu unless you REALLY know what you're doing.
[01:07] <Gale0n> ETERNA: Not on my Ubuntu
[01:07] <yerak_> what u mean?
[01:07] <pangolin> ETERNA: We know. thank you for the warning now Please stay on topic
[01:07] <SIFTU> Gale0n: of course it would work
[01:07] <ETERNA> Ok.
[01:08] <ETERNA> So what's the issue.
[01:08] <yerak_> Gale0n: something eles to do?
[01:08] <Gale0n> yerak_: thinking
[01:08] <ETERNA> I'm sorry everyone for my disruption. I will stay on topic now.
[01:09] <rodri> alguien habla español?
[01:09] <pangolin> !es | rodri
[01:09] <DingGGu_> !¿Í¿ì
[01:09] <DingGGu_> !¿Í¿ìÀ» ½ÇÇàÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
[01:10] <Gale0n> SIFTU: Trying your method
[01:10] <yerak_> now i can install gnome-control-center
[01:10] <korn788> helo
[01:10] <Gale0n> But, not working
[01:10] <yerak_> no, it just setting up
[01:11] <SIFTU> Gale0n: well it does work as I use it all the time.. maybe your function does work
[01:11] <Gale0n> Wait a min
[01:11] <Gale0n> I'll paste my super-ugly script
[01:11] <korn788> i heard that running linux on a dell can be a bi**ch is that true i want to run it on a dell 4700
[01:12] <yerak_> Gale0n: well, i go to bed
[01:12] <Gale0n> korn788: My Ubuntu works great on my Dell D500
[01:12] <yerak_> Gale0n: man i hate this
[01:12] <Gale0n> yerak_: Hate what? And good night
[01:12] <yerak_> Gale0n: everything is f...d up
[01:12] <Jordan_U> korn788: Please don't swear (asterisks or not). It depends entirely on the model, Dell even sells Desktops with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[01:13] <Gale0n> yerak_: Come here tomorrow, maybe I could help
[01:13] <korn788> sorry for swearing
[01:13] <Gale0n> We seem to be in similar time zones
[01:13] <hulkhogan> HILLO
[01:13] <korn788> so would my best bet be to try it and see if it boots
[01:14] <Gale0n> SIFTU: http://pastebin.com/ZZ3wjdmH
[01:14] <Jordan_U> yerak_: Please don't swear (obfuscated or not).
[01:14] <yerak_> Gale0n: but i installed 3 libs (libsdl1.2-dev, zlib1g(-dev)), maybe to delete them, but i need it for something
[01:15] <Gale0n> yerak_: That's 2 LIB's
[01:15] <yerak_> i swear because linux is making fun of me
[01:15] <Gale0n> yerak_: Should cause probs
[01:15] <yerak_> 3 2nd are with and without dev
[01:15] <Gale0n> I installed it too :/
[01:16] <yerak_> uninstall them?
[01:16] <Chwoka> hey how can i make it so ubuntu oesn't make me authenticate for everything, all the time, every time
[01:16] <Gale0n> It's not a LIB problem :/
[01:16] <korn788> ok well im downloading 11.4 right now hope it works
[01:16] <Gale0n> Chwoka, I think set yourself into the "root" group
[01:17] <Gale0n> Or just keep logging in as root
[01:17] <Gale0n> korn788: It will, I have it on my D500
[01:17] <korn788> k
[01:17] <korn788> thanks
[01:17] <Gale0n> NP
[01:17] <yerak_> should i install compiz?
[01:17] <Gale0n> yerak_: I don't think so :/
[01:17] <Gale0n> Do you want gnome3 on Ubuntu ?
[01:18] <SIFTU> Gale0n: well i dont have much time to look at it, but you didnt end the find with \;
[01:18] <korn788> i love linux but can get away from windows so i need a pc just for linux
[01:18] <sdz> can anyone recommend a good tiling windows manager that actually has a polished look?  (nicer looking fonts, shadows, rounded corners, not boring, etc)
[01:18] <yerak_> i ti already installed
[01:18] <Gale0n> yerak_: what ?
[01:18] <yerak_> is gnome3 better?
[01:18] <Gale0n> korn788: lol
[01:18] <Chwoka> korn788: you could dual-boot?
[01:18] <illmortal> does anyone know what application i need in order to control the system's bass/treble? Not just application specific, but bass and treble for everthing?
[01:18] <yerak_> it is* :)
[01:18] <Gale0n> yerak_: for non-experienced, can be an issue
[01:19] <Gale0n> Else, just stick with Unity
[01:19] <SIFTU> Gale0n: also $i isnt right, you want a function to be called.. not part as a loop
[01:19] <yerak_> i don't want unity
[01:19] <korn788> yea i could i dont want to have to boot into windows everytime i want to do something plus i want to learn linux more
[01:19] <yerak_> i have gnome2 now
[01:19] <yerak_> and i like it
[01:19] <Gale0n> SIFTU: The loop's better
[01:19] <korn788> i mean video games
[01:19] <SIFTU> Gale0n: not with find
[01:19] <Gale0n> yerak_: sudo apt-get remove --purge unity
[01:19] <Chwoka> oh, speaking of unity, can i move the dock to the bottom of the screen?
[01:20] <Chwoka> is that a thing you can do?
[01:20] <Gale0n> Chwoka: Not as far as I know
[01:21] <Gale0n> yerak_: How did you install gnome2 ?
[01:21] <yerak_> i removed unity, 1,750kb cleared, ubuntu-desktop and unity, restart now?
[01:21] <yerak_> i just installed 11.11
[01:21] <Gale0n> 11.11 ?
[01:22] <yerak_> ubuntu 11.11, and i left my home folder, just formated root partition
[01:22] <bazhang> yerak_, there is no 11.11
[01:22] <Gale0n> yerak_: 11.10
[01:22] <Gale0n> not 11.11
[01:22] <bazhang> yerak_, 11.10 is in #ubuntu+1 not here
[01:22] <Gale0n> Or do you mean 11.04
[01:23] <enchilado> bazhang: for the next four days, yes :D
[01:23] <yerak_> ups 11.04
[01:23] <Gale0n> Lol
[01:25] <yerak_> i need to restart
[01:25] <yerak_> brb
[01:25] <Gale0n> KK
[01:28] <tflgen2> can anyone help me with an Xorg problem?
[01:28] <Gale0n> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/ZZ3wjdmH
[01:28] <Gale0n> My current
[01:28] <yerac> back, now i got new image at GRUB, stars and debian
[01:28] <yerac> funny
[01:29] <hdon> hi all :) for those of you who partition up your drives a lot, what size do you allocate for your /? /var? (/home i can judge for myself)
[01:29] <yerac> i also lost wallpaper image and right click don't work on desktop.!?
[01:29] <Gale0n> yerac: Gnome3 or what ?
[01:30] <yerac> 2.32.1
[01:30] <Gale0n> :/
[01:30] <yerac> didn't got ur last message
[01:31] <Gale0n> did you try updating and upgrading ?
[01:31] <yerac> ubuntu?
[01:31] <illmortal> anyone know of an equalizer for all of ubuntu, not just application specific?
[01:31] <yerac> or gnome?
[01:31] <Gale0n> yerac: Ubuntu
[01:31] <yerac> yes, today
[01:32] <dingus9> having issues with sudo and $PATH any ideas
[01:32] <Gale0n> Do it again
[01:32] <yerac> but it was working ok for 1st restart
[01:32] <yerac> than it starts
[01:32] <yerac> after 2nd
[01:32] <yerac> update command?
[01:33] <Gale0n> sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[01:34] <yerac> upgrading...7%
[01:35] <Gale0n> kk
[01:37] <jbrokc> having a hard time with the zip command. how do I exclude the .git directory and .gitignore file?
[01:38] <ngc0202> Hey
[01:39] <ngc0202> I've been using Ubuntu, but I am currently using Windows 7, and I need to retrieve a file off of ubuntu, and I can't seem to figure out how
[01:39] <Gale0n> Dual-boot ?
[01:40] <ngc0202> Yeah
[01:40] <ngc0202> I installed ubuntu with Wubi i think also
[01:41] <robin0800> ngc0202, you need a program that can reed ext3/4 if you dual boot
[01:41] <Gale0n> As far as I know: reboot into Ubuntu, put stuff on a stick, back to Windows, and copy stuff over
[01:41] <ngc0202> Gale0n: No way xd
[01:41] <Gale0n> xP
[01:41] <ngc0202> robin0800: Like what?
[01:42] <ngc0202> and why can Files go Windows -> Ubuntu bot not inverse
[01:42] <rypervenche> ngc0202: Because Windows doesn't like Linux.
[01:42] <ngc0202> D:
[01:42] <Gale0n> correction: hates
[01:43] <rypervenche> loathes
[01:43] <Gale0n> u win
[01:43] <Gale0n> :D
[01:43] <robin0800> ngc0202, because linux can read ntfs but windows can't read ext3/4
[01:43] <ngc0202> Oh
[01:43] <ngc0202> I'm downloading a programme
[01:43] <ngc0202> Ext2Fsd
[01:44] <Gale0n> Fsd ?
[01:45] <yerac> it is done, go to restart
[01:45] <illmortal> anyone know of an equalizer for all of ubuntu, not just application specific?
[01:45] <Gale0n> KK
[01:45] <Gale0n> illmortal: equalizer >
[01:45] <yerac> Ext3Fsd is ok but http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/ is like u have explorer
[01:45] <Gale0n> ?
[01:45] <yerac> Ext2Fsd*
[01:45] <yerac> restarting....
[01:46] <illmortal> yes Gale0n.. I need to lower the bass on my speakers lol
[01:46] <ngc0202> ok
[01:46] <illmortal> But seems like I can only do that through software vs hardware.
[01:46] <Gale0n> illmortal: BRB
[01:47] <Gale0n> illmortal: Try libasound2-plugin-equal
[01:48] <illmortal> ok  will check it out right now, Gale0n
[01:48] <Gale0n> KK
[01:48] <Gale0n> Good luck
[01:48] <ngc0202> yerac: How do I work it?
[01:48] <illmortal> thanks :D
[01:48] <Gale0n> :D
[01:49] <ngc0202> oh
[01:49] <ngc0202> he left D:
[01:50] <ngc0202> How does Linux-Reader work?
[01:50] <dr_willis> wubi installs linux to a file on the windows hard drive basically. ive not noticed any windows apps that can read files from that file.. yet.  Not really looked for one. I hate wubi. :)
[01:51] <ngc0202> It was easier
[01:51] <dr_willis> ive learned not to trust those windows-ext2/3/4 reader utilities also. If windows crashes while windows is accessing your linux hd's - they can get messed up.
[01:53] <mdlueck> Anyone hear of loading Ubuntu 10.04.3 x64 from the LiveCD, reboot, system will not POST? I have to plug in my 9.04 drive to get booted. This has happened twice now with two different brand new drives. What does 10.04 do to these drives?!?!
[01:53] <illmortal> Gale0n that was exactly what I needed!
[01:53] <DesertFoxNight> Can I change the install directory of an apt-get package in Xubuntu 11.04?
[01:54] <Gale0n> illmortal: NP :)
[01:54] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: that seems impossible
[01:54] <dr_willis> DesertFoxNight:  cant recall ever seeing a way to use apt to install packages to differnt locations.  Never needed to. Why doyou want to do this?
[01:54] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: the computer should post even if the drive is dead, no?
[01:55] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: Ja, I have not seen anything like it in 24yrs of working with PC's.
[01:55] <delinquentme> anyone have any thoughts on why i can't burn a 4.5 gig image onto a 4.7 gig dvd?
[01:55] <DesertFoxNight> I'm unable to install vsftpd on Ubuntu Server.
[01:55] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: I only get the nVidia BIOS, next is black screen with the FDD light stuck on
[01:55] <dr_willis> mdlueck:  how large are these hard drives?
[01:55] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: Switch HDD's back to the 9.04 HDD and it POST's / boots fine
[01:56] <dr_willis> DesertFoxNight:  and why are you unable to do so?
[01:56] <mdlueck> The new drive is a 1TB, the existing one is 500GB
[01:56] <delinquentme> ooo wait there are virtual .iso mounting programs for ubuntu right?
[01:57] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  the normal ubuntu tools can mount iso files just fine.
[01:57] <dr_willis> No need for anything fancy
[01:57] <dr_willis> !iso
[01:57] <DesertFoxNight> I don't know. Ubuntu Server is connected to the internet.
[01:57] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: have you tried 9.04 on the new drive?
[01:57] <dr_willis> there are gui front ends to that mount command/options
[01:57] <delinquentme> ohh sweet !
[01:57] <delinquentme> thanks dr_willis
[01:57] <dr_willis> DesertFoxNight:  you do a 'sudo apt-get install YourFTPserver' and you get some errors?
[01:58] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: No, went straight to 10.04.3 x64 both times. 9.04 is x86 though.
[01:58] <DesertFoxNight> I'm using the root account.
[01:58] <dr_willis> DesertFoxNight:  and you get some errors when you do try to install the ftp server?  errors such as?
[01:58] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: I would start there, make sure the drive is working.  Try a 9.04 x86 install   (but thats just me)
[01:59] <dr_willis> be back in about an hr.. gotta run to work.
[01:59] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: But now the system will not even POST, after loading 10.04.3 x64, if the drive is attached.
[01:59] <DesertFoxNight> I get, "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/, E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mising?
[02:00] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: I see the nVidia BIOS screen, then a blank screen with a cursor, and the FDD light is stuck on.
[02:00] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: by post, you mean you can't even get to the bios?
[02:01] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: Ja
[02:01] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: Should go from nVidia BIOS screen to Intel BIOS screen
[02:01] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: but before you installed 10.04, it would work with that drive being connected, correct?
[02:02] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: How loading 10.04.3 x64 can do that much "damage" is beyond me... Yes about checking that the drive was recognized in the BIOS prior to booting 10.04.3 x64 LiveCD
[02:03] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: And the LiveCD saw the brand new 1TB drive just fine
[02:03] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: BOTH times...
[02:04] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: I would think if the hardware was not x64 compatible, it would not even boot the LiveCD, correct?
[02:04] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: I have never run x64 code on this computer
[02:05] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: BIOS is at the latest Intel release
[02:05] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: have you tried deleting the drive? and seeing that it works then?  fwiw, Im no expert, but either you missed something, or the drive suddenly went bad.  Either is a PITA
[02:05] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: what is the motherboard model?
[02:06] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: How to "delete" a drive on a system which will not POST if it is attached?
[02:06] <mdlueck> Intel DG33BUC
[02:06] <crash1hd> Ok I have a new System that I am about to install ubuntu on I have a choice I can either install ubuntu from LiveCD or LiveUSB or LiveUSBEFI which is my best option I am mostly curious about the EFI if anyone knows more about that?
[02:06] <eldani> join #peru
[02:07] <mdlueck> crash1hd: Install from CD is best choice
[02:07] <mdlueck> crash1hd: LiveCD
[02:07] <crash1hd> mdlueck, why?
[02:08] <mdlueck> crash1hd: More people do it, so tested better
[02:08] <neoark> anyone know how to fix this error: SIOCDIFADDR: Cannot assign requested address
[02:08] <neoark> getting that on networking restart
[02:08] <mdlueck> crash1hd: I see reports of installing from USB and the boot loader gets put to the wrong place
[02:09] <crash1hd> mdlueck, well I did try from USB and it created an ubuntu bootloader option in the bios which I have never seen done before
[02:09] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: well, it looks like the board supports x64 processors (core2duo etc)
[02:09] <jsemar> so hey guys, I have been using avahi for my local network for some time and it has all seemed to work pretty well for most devices (wireless and otherwise) however, for my android phone, it doesn't seem to work (dns doesn't resolve) does android just not work for this or is there another way?
[02:10] <mdlueck> ChogyDan: Ja, I would think if the system can boot the LiveCD that should be good enough affirmation that it can run x64
[02:10] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: maybe pull the drive out, and wave a kitchen magnet around it
[02:10] <ChogyDan> mdlueck: yeah, I think so too
[02:10] <neoark> inet6 addr: fe80::3a60:77ff:fe3b:c7d2/64 Scope:Link not sure where that came from
[02:10] <neoark> is that local ipv6?
[02:10] <jsemar> oh, and it works on my wifes iphone
[02:11] <delinquentme> what is the normal directory for programs to be installed into ubuntu?
[02:11] <delinquentme> like the "Program Files" equivalent
[02:12] <dee-dee> hi guys
[02:12] <edbian> delinquentme: it's not as simple but the short answer is /usr/bin
[02:13] <mdlueck> delinquentme: In Aptitude you can see where each package installs its files to by checking the properties of a package
[02:13] <neoark> anyone know?
[02:13] <neoark> or good with sorting out ipv6 problems
[02:14] <dee-dee> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my dell mini 9. I've never had problems with wireless, but now... The driver for the wireless card is installed and it works. But it cant see my router. Other routers yes, but mine...no. Im using a dlink dir300. Am I missing something?
[02:15] <MrSassyPants> I have an inexpicable 3000kbit traffic on udp port 137
[02:15] <MrSassyPants> I just shot down smbd and it's still going
[02:16] <MrSassyPants> I believe it's going to the networks' printer
[02:20] <th0r> MrSassyPants: it is windows netbios http://www.iss.net/security_center/advice/Exploits/Ports/137/default.htm
[02:21] <MrSassyPants> th0r, It's definitely traffic between printer and ubuntu server, I've never seen anything like that
[02:21] <MrSassyPants> some sort of feedback?
[02:21] <robin0800> dee-dee, something wrong with your router I would say
[02:21] <MrSassyPants> feedback loop, I mean
[02:22] <dee-dee> robin0800, would a rebooting the router help?
[02:23] <robin0800> dee-dee, can't do any harm
[02:23] <dee-dee> I'll try that then. Thx
[02:28] <sebastian_> hello
[02:28] <Gale0n> hi
[02:29] <MrSassyPants> my printer sends 3000kbit/s udp on 137 to my ubuntu server, any idea why?
[02:30] <MrSassyPants> it's a samsung 2850
[02:31] <dee-dee> robin0800, It works :) Thanks a lot
[02:32] <robin0800> MrSassyPants, perhaps there is a hung print process that makes the printer keep talking to the originating server
[02:32] <MrSassyPants> robin0800, hmm
[02:32] <robinsch> hi
[02:33] <MrSassyPants> netstat -u reports nothing, which isn't true
[02:33] <robinsch> i need help
[02:33] <robin0800> MrSassyPants, recycle the printer
[02:34] <robinsch> i got 32bit setup for utorrent server to run on my 64 bit natty
[02:34] <robinsch> i want the server to auto start at logon (not startup)
[02:34] <robinsch> how do i get the executable to run in background?
[02:35] <robinsch> ./utserver& works but i don't know how to get it to work at startup
[02:36] <MrSassyPants> ok, netstat --udp -l -n | grep \:137 produced some output
[02:36] <th0r> robinsch: put it in .profile
[02:36] <MrSassyPants> but how can I figure out what program it is? is there something like lsof for ports?
[02:37] <th0r> robinsch: I think .bash_login will work also
[02:38] <robinsch> brb, ill give it a shot th0r
[02:41] <MrSassyPants> ok, the process was nmbd
[02:42] <lost127> when enabling remote, it only allows me to access it via localhost. how do i change this? it is connected via eth0 and has an IP address.
[02:46] <cappicard> hmm.. looks like i cannot undervolt my toshiba satellite C655-S5082 (Celeron 900 2.2GHz)
[02:47] <robinsch> th0r: thats, it worked
[02:47] <robinsch> thanks*
[02:47] <fdge> one trick to get a process to run in the background would be to have the output go to a file
[02:47] <fdge> /path/to/binary > logfile.log
[02:47] <fdge> or if you don't want a file
[02:47] <th0r> robinsch: no problem...you're welcome <smile>
[02:47] <fdge> /path/to/binary > /dev/null
[02:47] <FloodBot1> fdge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <root> hello
[02:49] <fonrithirong> hi, stupid question: i installed something (gnuradio) and it's in my /usr/local/bin i'm unable to open it by just typing the name of the program. how do i fix this?
[02:50] <rypervenche> fonrithirong: Are you able to run it by typing "/usr/local/bin/gnuradio" ?
[02:50] <fonrithirong> rypervenche, gnuradio-companion
[02:50] <rypervenche> fonrithirong: Are you able to run it by typing "/usr/local/bin/gnuradio-companion" ?
[02:51] <dfcnvt> Why is it that I will never get empathy to work with video conference?
[02:51] <fonrithirong> rypervenche, it says cannot import gnuradio
[02:51] <fonrithirong> rypervenche, "are your pythonpath and ld_library_path set correctly?"
[02:51] <dfcnvt> I'd like to have my aim & googletalk to work on empathy.. but I am unsuccessful every time I tried to get it to work.
[02:52] <ylmfos> 3D
[02:53] <rypervenche> fonrithirong: Why not just install it from the pre-compiled binary in Ubuntu?
[02:53] <fonrithirong> rypervenche, i need a specific version
[02:53] <rypervenche> dfcnvt: It's not going to work :P
[02:54] <rypervenche> fonrithirong: Sounds like something didn't get done in the installation process. How did you install it?
[02:54] <dfcnvt> Jesus... When it come to video, linux suck at that.
[02:54] <fonrithirong> ./bootstrap ./configure --enable-grc ./make sudo make install sudo ldconfig
[02:54] <rypervenche> dfcnvt: You use Google Video for Google Video...
[02:54] <T-X-CH> Is there a webIRC code that I can insert in my blog that works perfectly with ubuntu?
[02:55] <dfcnvt> Just any protocol on Empathy would be fine. I have several accounts.
[02:55] <dfcnvt> None got the video to work.
[02:55] <fonrithirong> rypervenche, ./bootstrap ./configure --enable-grc ./make sudo make install sudo ldconfig
[02:55] <dfcnvt> ...Oh, you're saying there is googletalk for linux
[02:55] <dfcnvt> ?
[02:56] <rypervenche> dfcnvt: Video won't work with it. You shouldn't expect it to.
[02:56] <mappum> Is it possible to run an Ubuntu machine with no HDD but a USB drive?
[02:56] <rypervenche> dfcnvt: There is
[02:56] <rypervenche> fonrithirong: I don't know then.
[02:56] <xangua> mappum: don't expect the usb drive to live long ;)
[02:56] <fonrithirong> rypervenche, no problem, appreciate the help
[02:56] <xangua> if you plan to use it as a hd
[02:57] <mappum> xangua: even if I expect to not use too much IO?
[02:57] <dfcnvt> I don't see empathy in it... http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html
[02:58] <krenfrow> does anyone have experience using a Logitech G700 mouse in ubuntu?
[02:59] <dfcnvt> This suck.
[03:01] <rypervenche> dfcnvt: What exactly are you trying to do?
[03:01] <Atharva> Hii...where can I download ubuntu server 10.10 ?
[03:01] <Willis420> ubuntu.com
 : It's giving 10.04 and 11.04 options..where is 10.10 ?
[03:02] <rypervenche> dfcnvt: You want voice chat or video chat?
[03:03] <puff> I'm running ubuntu 10.4 LTS on a thinkpad t520. a) how do I get the wired connection working, and b) is it possible to get both the wired and wireless connections working simultaneously?
[03:03] <puff> I'm trying to set up a router via web interface, which is firewalled from the wireless side.  And I don't have a second machine handy to look stuff up while I'm trying to figure this out.
[03:04] <puff> hm, on second thought, forget b), I just want to get this thing working.
[03:04] <puff> When I do "sudo ifconfig -a" it only shows me wlan0. Is w for wireless? Where's the wired interface?
[03:04] <rypervenche> puff: Normally you just plug it in and it works. It shold be eth0
[03:04] <puff> Hm.
[03:05] <puff> So if I"m on wireless and I plug the wire in, it should automatically turn off wireless and turn on wired?
[03:05] <krenfrow> Atharva: check out http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/pub/releases/
 : ok..
[03:05] <rypervenche> puff: That I'm not sure how it works. It has always shown them both as connected...not sure exactly which takes priority.
[03:06] <Atharva> krenfrow : Thanks :)
[03:06] <puff> rypervenche: Shown where?
[03:06] <krenfrow> Atharva: you're welcome
[03:06] <rypervenche> puff: In the Network Manager.
[03:08] <krenfrow> Anyone know if programmable buttons on the Logitech G700 mouse work in Ubuntu?
[03:08] <puff>  rypervenche: Upper right corner on the menu bar?
[03:08] <puff> I only see two gui tools, the wireless thing on the menu bar, and System/Network Connections.
[03:09] <puff> Er, System/Preferences/Network Connections.
[03:09] <rypervenche> puff: Let me think... I don't use Gnome anymore... uhhh It's the applet on your toolbar with your wireless bars. Click on it to show what available connections there are.
[03:09] <puff> rypervenche: Yeah, that's the one... just shows wireless stuff.
[03:10] <rypervenche> puff: You tried plugging in your ethernet cable?
[03:10] <puff> Yeah.
[03:10] <puff> Hmm, wonder if there's some sort of hardware switch that disables wireless.
[03:10] <rypervenche> Do you see eth0 when you ifconfig -a ?
[03:11] <ambuj> Heyy I have stuck somewhere
[03:11] <robin0800> puff, a switch or key or keys combination
[03:12] <ambuj> any body gotto help me
[03:12] <ambuj> I am not able to execute an application
[03:13] <ambuj> in permissions its showing that you are not the owner
[03:13] <puff>  Hm, found the switch, it just disables wireless.  When I do ifconfig -a it just shows me lo and wlan0.
[03:13]  * w30 bios has an enable/disable setting
[03:13] <puff> I have a green light on the router side of the ethernet jack...
[03:13] <ambuj> help me please
[03:13] <Atharva> !enter | ambuj
[03:14] <puff> On both sides of the ethernet cable, actually.
[03:14] <puff> So the cable's probably good.
 L Then who is the owner ? root ?
[03:14] <puff> Okay, well, guess I'll shelve this and try again tomorrow.
[03:14]  * w30 can disable wirless with a Fn key but has to go into bios to enable it again....bummer
[03:15] <puff> rypervenche thanks.
[03:15] <puff> robin0800: You too :-).
[03:15] <ambuj> Atharva : IN properties its giving no privilage to me so i m not able to execute it
[03:16] <dr_willis> ambuj:  what app? where is the file stored at?
 : Have to tried changing the properties as root ?
[03:17] <ambuj> Atharva : yes its disabled for root ,group and others........I m not able to change its read/write options so not able to execute it
[03:18] <ambuj> dr_willis : App is tesseract-ocr and its stored in usr/bin
[03:19] <dr_willis> ambuj: /usr/bin? you need to use root/sudo to change permissiins. not your users filemanager
[03:20] <dr_willis> sudo chmod +x /path/to/file
[03:21] <ambuj> dr_willis : trying it
[03:22] <sdz> Anyone in here run the wm awesome?  Anything you dislike about it (compared to other tiling wm's)?
[03:22] <bazhang> sdz, issues with it?
[03:23] <dr_willis> love it or hate it. :'(  :-)
[03:23] <sdz> bazhang: recently installed linux... trying to decide on a wm...
[03:23] <dr_willis> i dont care for tiling wms.
[03:23] <Bdiah> Need a bit of help; I upgraded to 11.04 this evening and am now stuck at the command prompt
[03:23] <ambuj> dr_willis : How to enter into usr/bin from home folder
[03:24] <dr_willis> ambuj: enter? i gave a terminal command.  cd /usr/bin
[03:24] <sdz> dr_willis: why?
[03:25] <dr_willis> ambuj:  and the first / is imporntant
[03:25] <dr_willis> sdz i dont work the way they are ment to be used.
[03:26] <bazhang> sdz, thats a bit out of scope for this channel
[03:27] <ambuj> dr_willis : kkk.......I tried with chmod but its saying changing the permisions not permitted
[03:27] <bazhang> ambuj, how did you install it?
[03:27] <dr_willis> ambuj: whats the exact command you used
[03:28] <ambuj> dr_willis : sudo apt-get -b install tesseract-ocr
[03:29] <ambuj> bazhang: see up......I have written
[03:31] <ambuj> dr_willis : Actually i wanted to download source files also.....how to see source of a installed program
[03:31] <dr_willis> -b? never noticed that option befor.
[03:31] <ambuj> bazhang : Actually i wanted to download source files also.....how to see source of a installed program
[03:32] <ambuj> dr_willis : kkk........I will reinstall it but how to download  source files of programs
[03:32] <dr_willis> i think we are missing the core of the issue.  perhaps time to start from thebeginning.
[03:33] <dr_willis> using apt-get should have all permissions set to begin with
[03:33] <ambuj> kk
[03:34] <ambuj> I wanna ask : CAN WE SEE SOURCE OF installed SOFTWARES  IN UBUNTU : HOW?
[03:35] <Bdiah> oh man, this upgrade seems to have wrecked my system
[03:35] <Bdiah> can't even get to the login screen anymore
[03:35] <w30> ambuj, I think you can enable source repos in synaptic and then just download them
[03:36] <HypothesisFrog>  hi. I have a problem ... I have three log files that have grown so big that they've taken up all available space on my root partition. These are kern.log, ufw.log and syslog.1. How do I clear them, or reduce them in size?
[03:36] <dr_willis> apt-get has that option to download sources to a users home. but i havent dine that in ages. you do need the src repos enabled
[03:37] <dr_willis> HypothesisFrog:  you could just delete them
[03:37] <ambuj> w30 : dr_willis : Thanks
[03:37] <lavezarez> hello fellow ubuntu users
[03:37] <dr_willis> if they.grow too much you may want tp see what they are logging. ;-)
[03:37] <HypothesisFrog> dr_willis won't let me do it. The files are open, so it won't.
[03:38] <dr_willis> HypothesisFrog:  live cd perhaps. ive deleted mine befor without
[03:38] <dr_willis> needing a livecd
[03:38] <robin0800> HypothesisFrog, check you have log rotate installed and working
[03:39] <dr_willis> a. 1 log file sould be an archived version.
[03:39] <HypothesisFrog> robin0800 it's installed, I don't know if it's working. ps ax|grep logrotate doesn't show anything.
[03:40] <dr_willis> foo.log.1  foo.log.2.gz   and so on.
[03:40] <dr_willis> i clean mine out about once a month
[03:40] <[Ryan]> Can anyone recommend a good vps host? I'm currently with bHost and am looking for alternatives
[03:40] <HypothesisFrog> thanks
[03:41] <bazhang> [Ryan], thats pretty much offtopic here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:44] <chanelle> i'm running xubuntu and all of my window borders are missing
[03:45] <dee-dee> chanelle, are you using compiz?
[03:45] <chanelle> i think so
[03:46] <dee-dee> if so you should check your settings.
[03:46] <chanelle> oh wait yeah i have checked the compiz config thing
[03:46] <chanelle> window decoration is enabled
[03:46] <chanelle> nothing has changed
[03:47] <D_Russ> you know its difficult to get used to gimp after using Photoshop for so many years. Does anyone know of a way to get gimp to lock the tool bars to one window instead of having 3 windows?
[03:47] <rapage> I have a question
[03:48] <rapage> I want ubuntu folders to show file eed which is oddxtensions, I just renamed an exe file from uppercase to lowercase and the exe dissapear
[03:48] <rapage> which is odd
[03:48] <joe__> Hi!  I'm pretty new to this so bare with me!  My upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 has failed and i need help!!
[03:48] <rapage> I want to know how can I see all file extensions for good
[03:48] <D_Russ> what happend joe?
[03:48] <D_Russ> what happened joe_
[03:49] <joe__> many open office failed messages then at the end, the upgrade was aborted by the system.  Now it won't boot properly.  I can get you more info
[03:49] <D_Russ> sorry joe__ this one is over my head
[03:50] <D_Russ> did you back up?
[03:50] <joe__> of course not, you know?  I had no idea that this would happen...
[03:50] <D_Russ> always back up
[03:50] <D_Russ> well im sure you have heard it many times before
[03:51] <dr_willis> D_Russ:  thats to be a new feature in the latest gimp i belive. single window mode. it may be a option in older versions.
[03:51] <joe__> it all may still be there but i just need help at the boot screen to hopefully access everything
[03:51] <D_Russ> dr_willis, is the latest version available yet?
[03:51] <dr_willis> joe__:  you can use a live cd to get to the files to backup.
[03:52] <D_Russ> joe__ i cant help you fix it but i am sure you can get it via live cd
[03:52] <D_Russ> lol, dr_willis beat me too it
[03:52] <joe__> YES!  I have a live cd of 10.04.  more info, please!
[03:52] <D_Russ> stuck it in your pic
[03:52] <D_Russ> and boot from the CD
[03:52] <D_Russ> back up your files
[03:52] <D_Russ> and do a clean install
[03:52] <joe__> stand-by...
[03:52] <dr_willis> D_Russ:  latest version is avail. somehow i imagine. ;-)
[03:53] <D_Russ> must have just become available, i was looking into this about a week ago
[03:53] <dr_willis> backup your backups
[03:53] <jseongtae76> Hello, everyone
[03:54] <dr_willis> D_Russ:  ive seen unofficial mods to do it last year i rwcall
[03:54] <joe__> ok, i think i can take it from there.  thank you!!
[03:54] <dr_willis> single window gimp is not imporntant to me. :)
[03:55] <joe__> however, how do i access my files from the live cd (sorry to be so ignorant!)
[03:55] <dr_willis> i noemally use 2 monitors
[03:55] <elky> dr_willis, gimpshop. but i believe it's abandoned
[03:55] <dr_willis> joe__:  as root from terminal is one way
[03:56] <Shirakawasuna> single window gimp is great, but the last time I tried it out it wouldn't remember the setting (only temporary)
[03:56] <Shirakawasuna> also the current dev release of gimp has an arguably nsfw splash image ;)
[03:56] <dr_willis> elky:  ive seen others besides gimpshop. but its been a while
[03:56] <elky> yeah he had to fork after the domain got hijacked or something
[03:56] <jseongtae76> How weather is there?
[03:56] <rapage> I want ubuntu folders to show file eed which is oddxtensions, I just renamed an exe file from uppercase to lowercase and the exe dissapeared which is odd
[03:57] <dr_willis> beta setting perhaps.  been ages sibce i last gimpoed
[03:57] <bazhang> !ot | jseongtae76
[03:57] <rapage> I want ubuntu folders to show file extensions, I just renamed an exe file from uppercase to lowercase and the exe dissapeared which is odd
[03:57] <jseongtae76> I'm sorry
[03:57] <dr_willis> rapage: renamed how?
[03:58] <rapage> just renamed from let's say CF_UNINST.EXE to cf_uninst.exe
[03:58] <rapage> and the exe dissapeared
[03:58] <dr_willis> how...  terminal. nautilus... magic?
[03:59] <doran> hi i have a quick question i am trying to use a soundblaster live sound card and it shows up when i do sudo lshw but i cannot get it to show up with the alsamixer
[04:00] <crash1hd> Hmm should the swap go at the beginning or the end of a drive? or does it really even matter? I am asking because I always thought it was supposed to go at the beginning but when I installed ubuntu on this small drive it put the swap automatically at the end? thoguths?
[04:01] <crash1hd> *thoughts?
[04:01] <robin0800> doran, you might need a driver for that?
[04:01] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  not really a big issue these days
[04:02] <doran> it says driver=Emu10k1
[04:02] <rapage> I want ubuntu folders to show file extensions, I just renamed an exe file from uppercase to lowercase and the exe dissapeared which is odd
[04:02] <doran> and it was blacklisted in etc/modprobe.d ossblacklist or something like thatso i deleted that entry
[04:02] <dr_willis> ive seen it argues both ways in years past when swap was critical. and speeds much sliwer
[04:02] <rapage> just renamed from let's say CF_UNINST.EXE to cf_uninst.exe
[04:03] <dr_willis> rapage:  what tool did you use to rename it......
[04:04] <rapage> no tool I just hit f2
[04:04] <dr_willis> ive never seen nautilus hide extensions. dies the twrminal show the. exe on the file
[04:04] <rapage> let me see
[04:04] <robin0800> doran, and it still dosen't show in alsamixer drop down list
[04:04] <doran> no sir
[04:04] <dr_willis> si yoy usen nautilys as the tool..
[04:05] <Gale0n> hmm
[04:05] <dr_willis> doran:  add. exe back then
[04:05] <robin0800> doran, you have rebooted?
[04:05] <Rokali> hai all
[04:05] <rapage> no it doesn't show any file extensions
[04:05] <rapage> just the name of the file
[04:05] <doran> its labeled in the generic:0 UNCLAIMED in lshw ... and yes i have rebooted
[04:05] <Rokali> i hav an problem adding tinychat room embed link to pidgin
[04:05] <Rokali> can anyone help me please
[04:05] <Gale0n> What problem
[04:06] <rapage> dr_willis, only the name not file ext
[04:06] <Rokali> how to add tinychat room to pidgin
[04:06] <Rokali> ?
[04:06] <Gale0n> Rokali: What problem ?
[04:06] <dr_willis> rapage:  if the cli shows no extension then there is none. add. exe to the filename
[04:07] <rapage> what's cli
[04:07] <rapage> dr_willis, what's cli
[04:07] <robin0800> doran, its a pci card? could try it in a different slot
[04:07] <dr_willis> !cli
[04:07] <rapage> command line interface?
[04:07] <Gale0n> Rokali: ?
[04:07] <rapage> k
[04:07] <rapage> I don't recall I eliminiated the exe
[04:07] <rapage> anyway I have anmother question
[04:08] <Rokali> gale0n
[04:08] <Gale0n> Rokali: are you there ?
[04:08] <rapage> I have this file on a zipdisk formatted for fat
[04:08] <Rokali> yes
[04:08] <Rokali> gale0n
[04:08] <rapage> but I cna't see this file on windows why
[04:08] <Gale0n> Rokali: What's the *full* problem
[04:08] <Rokali> i need to add an tinychat chat room to pidgin
[04:08] <rapage> I can see all other files but not this one
[04:08] <doran> yeah its a pci card
[04:08] <Rokali> www.tinychat.com/musicmazaa
[04:09] <Rokali> this room i need to add in pidgin
[04:09] <Rokali> is it possible or nt
[04:09] <bazhang> rapage, on windows? whats the connection to ubunty
[04:09] <bazhang> Rokali, try #pidgin
[04:09] <Gale0n> Rokali: TinyChat isn't included on Pidgin by default.
[04:10] <Rokali> so wat to do
[04:10] <Rokali> gale0n
[04:10] <Gale0n> Rokali: /join #talkhere
[04:11] <doran> i read some stuff about adding  snd_emu10kx_load="YES" to the load.conf but i have no idea where that is
[04:11] <Gale0n> Rokali: you here ?
[04:11] <lhdc> hi guys
[04:11] <rapage> I have downloaded this file on ubuntu to a zipdisk formatted fat, this disk has like 10 object 9 files 1 folder I can see all 10 in ubuntu but on windows I cant see this file however when I go to properties the spaced used reflects this file is there
[04:11] <IridiumScaffold> has anyone got ubuntu iscsi boot to work reliably?
[04:12] <bazhang> rapage, so nothing about ubuntu
[04:12] <IridiumScaffold> rapage: i have this problem sometimes
[04:12] <bazhang> rapage, ##windows for that
[04:12] <IridiumScaffold> rapage: the solution is to use cygwin to copy the file somewhere else.
[04:12] <lhdc> could anyone give me some advice on how should I find duplicate files by content, not filename,size or date
[04:12] <IridiumScaffold> I can't remember what it turned out actually caused it.
[04:13] <rapage> !cygwin
[04:13] <IridiumScaffold> lhdc: FSLint is good for this.
[04:13] <bazhang> rapage, wrong channel:  ##windows for windows support
[04:16] <lhdc> IridiumScaffold: thanks iridium. thatś a nice tool
[04:16] <Brewmaster619> Yeah, but rapage would get better answers here; nobody at ##windows would have a clue
[04:19] <bazhang> Brewmaster619, not true actually, and moot. this is ubuntu support only
[04:19] <rapage> IridiumScaffold,
[04:19] <rapage> as far I get cygwin is an app for windows that provides unix tools
[04:21] <qin> rapage: /j #cygwin ?
[04:21] <bazhang> !ot | rapage
[04:22] <juxta_> I've recently installed a kernel update, on reboot a module that's automatically compiled by DKMS is not loading - it seems to be compiled against something other than the current linux-headers. Is it possible to tell DKMS to rebuild a module?
[04:23] <IridiumScaffold> juxta: if you run dkms uninstall on the module
[04:23] <IridiumScaffold> and then re-add it with dkms it'll be built against the current kernel correctly
[04:23] <IridiumScaffold> it's probably happening because the makefile uses something other then the ${kernelver} environment variable to find linux headers.
[04:24] <juxta_> IridiumScaffold, thanks - I will give it a shot right now
[04:25] <juxta_> it's a networking module annoyingly enough which means I'm out in the garage where the machine is trying to fix it :)
[04:26] <lhdc> I've put scripts in folder /usr/bin that links to the shell script in my ~/bin folder, that way I can Alt+F2 and type in the script name. Is there any other way I can achieve the same effect if Im not root, or sudoer?
[04:26] <lsv> does anyone knows how to remove software from bash?
[04:27] <lsv> my brother installed "wine" but I don't want it, and I need to free some space.
[04:28] <crash1hd> Just wondering if I install ubuntu and place the home director on its own partition how big should the partition that contains the ubuntu os be?
[04:28] <bazhang> lsv, sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:28] <javier_> Hi. I have some problems with errors in my hard drive and I'm going to format it and reinstall ubuntu. Shold I follow any advice in order to recover my hard-drive "health" before the new instalation=
[04:28] <linuxuz3r> hey bazhang
[04:28] <linuxuz3r> can you do me a favor can i message you
[04:28] <Gale0n> javier_: what problems
[04:29] <bazhang> linuxuz3r, ok
[04:29] <lsv> bazhang: thanks.  Would that remove everything dealing with wine?
[04:29] <bazhang> lsv, you wish to use the purge option?
[04:30] <dr_willis> purgeing wine will not delete apps installed with wine. ie; user installed windows games
[04:30] <lsv> bazhang: yeah something like that.  I just want to free as much space as possible.  But I don't know if that would remove some stuff that other programs would need.
[04:30] <juxta_> IridiumScaffold, I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it with DKMS, but it still complains of an invalid module format
[04:30] <qin> lsv: sudo apt-get purge wine<TAB> (wine 1.2 or 1.3) also rm -r ~/.wine (carefull, will remove all stuff installed in wine)
[04:31] <bazhang> lsv, the config files won't be that much space
[04:31] <molgan> hello ubuntu guyz
[04:31] <Gale0n> Hi again molgan
[04:31] <javier_> Gale0n: I hear some strange noise when it's working hard, and when I check hard drive usage, it's says there are sectors with errors
[04:31] <Gale0n> <<< Gale0n
[04:32] <Gale0n> javier_: Sounds like hardware problems
[04:32] <IridiumScaffold> justxa_: sorry I misled you. you need to use the "remove" function
[04:32] <SIFTU> javier_: do not use that drive then
[04:32] <Gale0n> If you physically hear it
[04:32] <theTwiz> hi all
[04:32] <SIFTU> javier_: run smartmontools on it
[04:32] <molgan> lolz, I am working on the current user uptime, and hit a bit of a snag, but looking into it.
[04:32] <lsv> thanks dr_willis, qin, and bazhang.  I'll try what qin said.
[04:32] <molgan> it's for a conky config.
[04:32] <Gale0n> What's the snag? :F
[04:32] <Gale0n> :D
[04:32] <IridiumScaffold> juxta_: the order of events is "dkms remove" and then "dkms uninstall" and then "dkms install"
[04:32] <javier_> SIFTU: How to run that?
[04:33] <molgan> getting it only to display the user uptime
[04:33] <IridiumScaffold> raw dkms uninstall doesn't remove the built module, so it doesn't get rebuilt when you instal l it
[04:33] <brandon> Is it possible to allow a non-root user to dd directly to a specific harddrive, but not any other. I need this to stay through removing the drive, so moddify /dev/sdb won't work.
[04:33] <molgan> I can use ${user_times}
[04:33] <juxta_> IridiumScaffold, righto - sorry, my mistake
[04:33] <Gale0n> molgan: That's what we were talking about earlier ><
[04:33] <SIFTU> javier_: I have a script if you would like.. make sure you have smartmontools installed
[04:33] <juxta_> just did it now and it seems to have worked :)
[04:33] <IridiumScaffold> brandon: sounds like you need to make a udev rule. i'm not familiar with how though.
[04:34] <molgan> Gale0n: I may have not seen that comment...
[04:34] <juxta_> what would you suggest I look at to prevent it from happening next kernel update IridiumScaffold?
[04:34] <Gale0n> molgan: what comment
[04:34] <SIFTU> brandon: possibly with a udev rule
[04:34] <javier_> to be honest, I'm not sure if it's a hard drive stuff. What happens is (both in windows and ubuntu) that some times it start working hardly (slow and so on and hard working) and a strange noice starts sounding, and it sound bad. Then, after a minute or so, it get's back to normal
[04:35] <molgan> Gale0n: I don't know which, the last comment about user uptime
[04:35] <Gale0n> javier_: hardware problem
[04:35] <brandon> SIFTU: thanks, it looks like google can take it from here
[04:35] <Gale0n> molgan: Lol, it never worked
[04:35] <dr_willis> time to invest in a new hd. soon
[04:36] <SIFTU> javier_: I PMed you my script
[04:36] <javier_> Gale0n: how could I check what concrete problem I have?
[04:36] <qin> javier_: Your harddrive is saing: back up me before i will die.
[04:36] <Gale0n> javier_: I'm not a hardware guy :(
[04:36] <somsip> javier_: I am learning this the hard way as we speak...
[04:36] <molgan> Gale0n: do you use conky?
[04:36] <Gale0n> javier_: I agree with qin
[04:36] <Gale0n> molgan: nope
[04:37] <molgan> ok.
[04:37] <Gale0n> I don't know what it is ^^
[04:37] <dr_willis> bad sectors are bad. no cookies for them
[04:37] <molgan> text based system moniter injected into your desktop.
[04:37] <dr_willis> !conky
[04:38] <Gale0n> molgan: oh ok.
[04:38] <molgan> anyone know conky well?
[04:38] <javier_> qin, Gale0n: it's what I think, that can be hard drive stuff. What I thought I could better do (I have back up already) is to reinstall everything, and maybe it will work a bit lighter and it will be better
[04:38] <dr_willis> conky has gained a lot of features lately
[04:38] <bazhang> molgan, let me get you a guide
[04:38] <molgan> Gale0n: well from command ${user_times} I get tty0h 10m 43s
[04:38] <Gale0n> javier_: Get a new had drive
[04:38] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076   molgan
[04:39] <SIFTU> javier_: more blocks will go bad and the drive will die.. get a new one if you have tested it and it failed
[04:39] <Gale0n> hm
[04:39] <molgan> bazhang: looking....
[04:39] <javier_> Gale0n: but I'm I going to change hard drive while this still works?
[04:39] <javier_> SIFTU: to test it is that script?
[04:39] <SIFTU> javier_: that will do a test on all drives in your system
[04:39] <Gale0n> javier_: Yes, unless you wanna wait till the last possible second, where your harddisk explodes
[04:40] <SIFTU> javier_: I use it on my RAID array
[04:41] <javier_> SIFTU: how to do it? run that on terminal?
[04:41] <Kaigeos> can anyone tell me the path to linux-headers-2.6.38-11-generic is? vmware player needs it, apt-get say's it's already installed.
[04:41]  * Kaigeos shrug
[04:41] <SIFTU> javier_: yes on a terminal
[04:41] <lsv> thanks for the help.  Wine is gone and the ~/.wine is also gone.
[04:41] <Gale0n> Kaigeos: use find
[04:41] <javier_> the whole thing? at one time?
[04:41] <lsv> Kaigeos: mine is on /boot
[04:43] <l403> daily live54 doesnt support ext4, does it?
[04:43] <l403> 64
[04:44] <lsv> just one quick question.  Does ubuntu run nicely on a mini with lets say 2Gb of ram?
[04:44] <bazhang> l403, daily live of what
[04:44] <bazhang> lsv, very
[04:44] <Gale0n> d
[04:45] <Brewmaster619> lsv: very nicely
[04:45] <w30> lsv, how much drive space do you have?
[04:45] <lsv> I want to save money and buy an eee pc series 1000.  They look awesome.
[04:45] <bazhang> l403, 11.10 daily?
[04:45] <l403> yeah
[04:46] <bazhang> l403, sure , #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 please
[04:46] <lsv> w30: drive space?  On my laptop or the eee pc?
[04:46] <l403> sry.
[04:47] <w30> lsv, on the mini you want
[04:47] <l403> do you guys know which live does support ext4. I guess thats my real question
[04:47] <bazhang> l403, ext4 all ubuntu support that
[04:47] <lsv> w30: I think it has 320 Gb or something.  Let me check.
[04:48] <ar9> how can I acces a windows machine that doesn't have a password? it works fine with a password but not whitout
[04:49] <w30> lsv, I got a gift HP mini with XP and it only had a 8.8 gig ssd drive
[04:49] <qin> ar9: Where is Ubuntu part?
[04:49] <FvckYourself> Fuck Ubuntu.
[04:49] <qin> Bye
[04:50] <w30> lsv, I couldn't even put word on it without running out of room.
[04:50] <lsv> w30: yeah I was seeing that, some models have like 40 ssd but this one has 160 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-Eee-PC-1000H-/120787122108?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item1c1f7937bc
[04:50] <Daigoro> How do I return irssi back to it's default settings?
[04:50] <lsv> w30: D:
[04:51] <Gale0n> Daigoro: /RESET
[04:51] <Daigoro> thanks
[04:51] <qin> DingGGu_: mv ~/.irssi ~/.irssi_old
[04:51] <w30> lsv, I put Lubuntu on it and it works great, it's a light weight memory and hard drive conserving ubuntu variant
[04:52] <Gale0n> Lubuntu = Light Ubuntu ?
[04:52] <lsv> w30: But even if it just has 160 Gb, I want it.  The laptop I have now it's too big to take to school.
[04:53] <pangolin> !lubuntu | Gale0n
[04:53] <soreau> Galaxor: ubuntu with lxde as default
[04:53] <Gale0n> kk
[04:53] <DingGGu_> ?
[04:54] <qin> lsv: You really want to pass laptop type with term like "linux" "ubuntu" "wifi" "webcam", etc to google, to see what is feedback.
[04:54] <w30> lsv, yeah, my big laptop needs a trailer to haul it on and a portable generator for more than 2 hours of life
[04:55] <lsv> qin: yeah, sometimes I see some people here with some problems.  Luckly I never have problems with mine :D
[04:55] <qin> w30: It is really sad, when battery is flat before you done with coffee ;)
[04:56] <lsv> w30: haha.  And my battery is "broken"...  I need another one -__-
[04:56] <w30> lsv, lubuntu uses ubuntu repositories so you can make it the same as ubuntu application wise.
[04:57] <lsv> so does anyone wants to buy me the eee pc?  Just ~$100 with shipping...  haha.
[04:58] <Gale0n> lsv: Come to SA, we have it on sale
[04:59] <w30> lsv, Sure, I'll have my butler drop one off at your door.
[04:59] <lsv> Gale0n: SA?
[04:59] <k0d0k_ng0r3k> good morning
[04:59] <k0d0k_ng0r3k> :D
[04:59] <lsv> w30: Oh how nice of you haha.
[04:59] <Gale0n> Southern Afri`a
[04:59] <Gale0n> Africa *
[05:00] <k0d0k_ng0r3k> :)
[05:01] <lsv> Gale0n: mmm, I don't even have the money to buy the mini...  I would like to visit Africa some time.
[05:01] <rustyshackleford> I'm having trouble getting my ubuntu box to output to my tv. I have a DVI to VGA converter, and the VGA to composite cable. it outputs fine to my DVI monitor (which I'm currently using). Any thoughts as to how I can troubleshoot this?
[05:02] <jausfeld> may I ask a question here?
[05:03] <rustyshackleford> you mean another question.
[05:03] <rustyshackleford> yes :)
[05:03] <jausfeld> thanks.  I think I have read just about every wifi hotspot help guide on the net and for the life of me I cannot seem to get mine to work right.
[05:04] <jausfeld> I have eth0 connected to a linksys router which assigns and ip no prob.
[05:04] <jausfeld> I can ping the world without issues.
[05:04] <molgan> lol
[05:04] <jausfeld> I have also set up isc-server and hostapd for the wifi card.
[05:05] <rustyshackleford> re: my problem, that should have said component cable, not composite
[05:05] <jausfeld> It broadcasts no problem connects clients and assignes ip addresses in the expected range.
[05:05] <jausfeld> If wlan0 and eth0 are all ok
[05:06] <Kaigeos> how would you uninstall an app you installed from a .bundle file?
[05:06] <jausfeld> why can any client connected to wlan0 not get to the internet?
[05:06] <crash1hd> Something that seems to be missing from any of the ubuntu guides regarding partitioning (unless I cant seem to find it) is a decent guide on how big each partition should be and why? does anyone know of such guide?
[05:06] <bazhang> crash1hd, how big a hdd
[05:06] <crash1hd> I am installing windows 7 and ubuntu, I am thinking of having my boot partition on its own as well as my home directory on its own partition the hdd I am planning on having this on is 250gb
[05:06] <villa> hello
[05:07] <villa> how can I extract data from a commen file?
[05:07] <crash1hd> bazhang, oh and I will be having an 8gb swap cause there is 8gb in the system
[05:08] <crash1hd> bazhang, also everything I am storing will be on my other 4 drives that are 2TB each for storage
[05:08] <bazhang> crash1hd, ntfs for those?
[05:08] <crash1hd> no ext4
[05:08] <bazhang> crash1hd, shared 2TB?
[05:08] <crash1hd> how do you mean?
[05:08] <lsv> well, I must go.  Thanks for all the help, it was awesome talking to you all.  Bye :D
[05:08] <crash1hd> primarily an ubuntu system only adding windows 7 for the occasional game
[05:09] <crash1hd> so it will have a very small foot print
[05:09] <bazhang> crash1hd, the 4 shared 2TB wil be ntfs, right?
[05:09] <crash1hd> no they are ext4
[05:09] <bazhang> crash1hd, windows wont be able to access that
[05:09] <crash1hd> they already have data on them
[05:09] <crash1hd> I know
[05:09] <crash1hd> not worried about that
[05:09] <bazhang> ok
[05:09] <crash1hd> this is a media server
[05:09] <bazhang> yep
[05:10] <crash1hd> and I feel ext is safer then ntfs
[05:10] <crash1hd> lol
[05:10] <bazhang> how much for windows7 ?
[05:10] <crash1hd> exactly thats the part I am not sure
[05:10] <crash1hd> what would be the min
[05:10] <crash1hd> figuring 25gb
[05:10] <crash1hd> or 20 even
[05:10] <bazhang> ##windows probably but that sounds about right
[05:11] <crash1hd> yeah for sure :) I am more curious about how much space for ubuntu when the /home directory is on its own partition
[05:11] <bazhang> so /boot / /swap and /home , correct ?
[05:11] <crash1hd> and / yes
[05:11] <crash1hd> oh crud didnt see your / lol sorry
[05:11] <bazhang>  20 for / would be generous
[05:11] <crash1hd> yeah figure /boot = 250mb /swap = 8gb / = ? and /home =  remaining
[05:12] <crash1hd> ok
[05:12] <crash1hd> that gives lots of room for app installing
[05:12] <bazhang> you'd have to install nearly every package
[05:12] <bazhang> yep.
[05:12] <crash1hd> would I be able to do the same with 10 or 15 or would I be constricting it by that point?
[05:12] <bazhang> 15 would be fine
[05:13] <bazhang>  /home would be by far the largest
[05:13] <bazhang> around 200 GB if my math is right
[05:14] <jausfeld> Question:  eth0 works ok, wlan0 (master) works ok, comes up on boot and auto broadcasts.  eth0 and wlan0 are on different subnets.  Clients connecting via wlan0 are assigned IP address in the expected range.  But unfortunatly they cannot ping eth0 or get online
[05:14] <crash1hd> which makes sense
[05:14] <jausfeld> Bridge utilities or my configuration (interpretation of configuration) does not work either.
[05:14] <crash1hd> bazhang, problem is I dont know what I would put in those 200 lol since /downloads is its own drive
[05:15] <bazhang> crash1hd, well a nice luxury to have, but that partitioning scheme sounds fine
[05:15] <crash1hd> I guess I could make it 10gb for / as I can always resize it later as long as the /home is not full
[05:15] <crash1hd> or do you think I should make it 15 to be on the safe side
[05:16] <bazhang> better to err on the side of too much than too little imo crash1hd
[05:16] <crash1hd> hmm I know what will fill up the 200 lol ubuntus version of vmware images lol
[05:17] <crash1hd> good point :)
[05:18] <aaas> anyone set up a squid proxy to allow connection from an external ip?
[05:18] <crash1hd> hmm I had installed ubuntu onto this drive already (just as a quick test) and it installed a 20mb /boot/efi thats fat16 what is that all about?
[05:19] <tomas__> Hello, can someone help me with a problem installing Kubuntu 11.04?
[05:20] <theTwiz> im getting a "lost page write due to I/O error" in my syslog everytime I attempt to transfer a large file via ftp, and the entire filesystem goes into read-only. the drive passes SMART. this does not occur on my other two drives in a raid 0 array. any ideas?
[05:20] <g0rs> tomas__: ask your question directly
[05:20] <g0rs> tomas__: you better ask in #kubuntu
[05:21] <theTwiz> clarification: "everytime i transfer a large file TO the server in question", so a write operation
[05:21] <tomas__> I get to 75% install then an error saying SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:21] <bazhang> tomas__, from an install cd?
[05:23] <g0rs> bazhang: he left
[05:27] <crash1hd> So if I understan the logic of moving /home to its own partition if I have another /home and I use it on a new install will it automatically know all the programs and reinstall them? or am I not understanding it right?
[05:29] <jausfeld> Question:  eth0 works ok, wlan0 (master) works ok, comes up on boot and auto broadcasts.  eth0 and wlan0 are on different subnets.  Clients connecting via wlan0 are assigned IP address in the expected range.  But unfortunatly they cannot ping eth0 or get online
[05:29] <jausfeld> Bridge utilities or my configuration (interpretation of configuration) does not work either.
[05:30] <SIFTU> jausfeld: so you are bridging instead of routing? with 2 diff subnets?
[05:31] <jausfeld> Thanks for reaching out SIFTU
[05:31] <jausfeld> I would rather make a simple wifi hotspot.
[05:31] <jausfeld> so they do not "have" to be on different subnets.
[05:31] <SIFTU> jausfeld: ok so you want both interfaces on the same subnet
[05:32] <SIFTU> and yes you would do that with bridgeutils
[05:32] <jausfeld> and it is installed.
[05:32] <jausfeld> bridge utils
[05:32] <jausfeld> but when I put in the simple link the whole system crashes
[05:32] <SIFTU> jausfeld: you followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[05:33] <jausfeld> this is between eth0 and eth1
[05:33] <jausfeld> not between eth0 and wlan0
[05:33] <SIFTU> just substitute
[05:33] <SIFTU> the bridge doesnt care
[05:34] <mtnman80> Hello.  Can someone help me with a problem regarding Ubuntu starting up ... in lieu of disconnecting a USB drive improperly?
[05:34] <jausfeld> read something about frames being ignored if not originating from the AP
[05:34] <dadinck> I have a new installation of Natty Narwhal. I was contemplating doing some updates, but previous experience says that if I update everything, something will break. Does anyone have some pointers on good/bad updates?
[05:34] <mtnman80> I have an IBM Thinkpad T43 business model ...
[05:35] <SIFTU> jausfeld: dd-wrt/openwrt/tomato all bridge like you want
[05:35] <mtnman80> When I start up, it just goes to a blank black screen with a j at the top of the screen the cursor blinking after it ...
[05:35] <pangolin> GirlyBitch: family friendly nicks are mandatory in all ubuntu channels, please change your nick now.
[05:35] <jausfeld> does openwrt work ok on 11.04
[05:35] <pangolin> this is the only time I ask.
[05:35] <mtnman80> And that is after the IBM start up screen ...
[05:35] <SIFTU> jausfeld: no they are distros for routers
[05:36] <SIFTU> jausfeld: but you could use their doco
[05:36] <jausfeld> so a complete reinstall then?
[05:36] <__machine> if i add an smb mount in fstab… and ubuntu boots and the smb share is unavailable… will ubuntu auto mount it when it becomes available (or some program tries to access it)? or if it mounts ok at boot, but then the file server goes offline… what happens to the mount?
[05:36] <jausfeld> Not opposed.  It is all about the end result.
[05:36] <BitchyGirl> pangolin: Ok now
[05:37] <jausfeld> SITFU which of bunch would your recommend giving a shot first?
[05:37] <SIFTU> jausfeld: no, i was just suggesting you could see the bridge config on their doco and use it in ubuntu.. those distro are for hardware routers running arm procs
[05:37] <BitchyGirl> Hi my ubuntu won't recognise my flash disk
[05:37] <mtnman80> It has to be a problem with the computer trying to read the flash drive that was removed after shutting down the computer without commanding the computer to "safely remove" ...
[05:37] <jausfeld> The hotspot is dedicated.
[05:37] <mtnman80> can anyone help?
[05:38] <pangolin> BitchyGirl: no.
[05:38] <jausfeld> Small little via nano box
[05:38] <BitchyGirl> And beware of the user GirlyGirl ... He tries to make people run an erase script
[05:38] <BitchyGirl> It contains rm -rf
[05:38] <jausfeld> USB atheros card
[05:38] <BitchyGirl> pangolin: You suggest a nick
[05:38] <BitchyGirl> pangolin: I'm bad with ames
[05:38] <BitchyGirl> names
[05:38] <fancyninja> BitchyGirl- run sudo fdisk -l
[05:38] <mtnman80> can anyone help me with my startup problem?
[05:38] <pangolin> TrollyTroll comes to mind. change your nick now or I am banning you.
[05:39] <BitchyGirl> pangolin: ok
[05:39] <dadinck> BitchyGirl: how about "FemaleDog?"
[05:39] <pangolin> thank you.
[05:39] <jausfeld> BitchyGirl - how about "mildlyannoyedlady"?
[05:39] <jausfeld> SIFTU
[05:39] <jausfeld> ok I will thanks.
[05:40] <jausfeld> maybe just install the distro anyway.  The drivers are basically in the kernel at this point anyway.  Should go right in like a charm
[05:43] <mtnman80> Is anyone knowledgeable with helping someone with an Ubuntu startup problem on an IBM Thinkpad?
[05:44] <mtnman80> Anyone at all?
[05:47] <pAt_> mtnman80: just wrirte you problem and lets see then if anyone can help you out
[05:48] <theTwiz> im getting I/O errors on one disk - how do I determine if it is hardware failure or configuration/software failure?
[05:48] <theTwiz> already ran smartctrl, and the drive passed
[05:50] <mtnman80> pAt_: because I did not safely remove an USB flash drive before shutting down my computer ... and then removed it after shutting down ... my computer now does not complete startup ...
[05:50] <mtnman80> I am running Ubuntu ...
[05:51] <mtnman80> pAt_: I am running Ubuntu ...
[05:51] <mtnman80> p
[05:51] <Mithadon> I love ubuntu 10.04 but 11.04 pisses me off
[05:51] <Mithadon> join #wolfgame !
[05:51] <kandrew> Pahaha
[05:51] <mtnman80> pAt_: I think it is trying to read the USB flash drive.  I plugged it back in, but it is still having the same problem ...
[05:51] <pangolin> Mithadon: Please don't advertise/spam in here.
[05:51] <Mithadon> alright, sorry
[05:52] <mtnman80> pAt_: trying to read the flash drive upon startup, I mean ..
[05:52]  * kandrew comforts Mithadon
[05:52] <pAt_> mtnman80: I ment to ask the crowed, not me ;)
[05:52] <mtnman80> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[05:53] <mtnman80> When I startup my IBM Thinkpad (running strictly Ubuntu) it is trying to read a USB flash drive that was not "safely removed" before shutting down last time ... and then USB drive was physically removed after shutting down ...
[05:54] <mtnman80> Do I have to manipulate something in the BIOS settings to get it to properly startup again?
[05:55] <mtnman80> I would really appreciate anyone's help!
[05:55] <mtnman80> I really sucks that currently I cannot use my computer because of this stupid problem ...
[05:55] <mtnman80> it really sucks, I mean ...
[05:56] <crash1hd> If creating a boot partition should I make it ext 2 3 or 4?
[05:56] <mtnman80> pAt_: OK, I'm not getting any responses.  Is there a better channel to ask this question in?
[05:56] <pAt_> I would check the BIOS settings for the first boot device and change that in case mtnman80
[05:57] <pAt_> no mtnman80 its is the right channel, but maybe not the best time
[05:57] <mtnman80> pAt_: OK, let me tell you the choices I have in the BIOS settings ... and see if you can help properly order the devices that the system references when starting up ...
[05:58] <crash1hd> mtnman80, not that I have any idea on this but have you tried putting the thumbdrive back in? before restarting
[05:59] <mtnman80> crash1hd: yes, I have.  Still have the same problem.  Good thought, though :)
[05:59] <crash1hd> where does it lockup?
[06:01] <raj-darkmystery> strange issue useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[06:01] <mtnman80> crash1hd: right after the introductory IBM Thinkpad screen (which also allows for the option of entering the BIOS settings), it just goes to a blank screen with one letter at the top ...
[06:01] <crash1hd> hmm that is odd
[06:01] <crash1hd> what is the letter?
[06:01] <mtnman80> crash1hd: letter j
[06:02] <crash1hd> have you tried to boot with a different device in the usb port?
[06:02] <crash1hd> I am just shooting out longshot ideas
[06:02] <crash1hd> as I know the feeling of frustration
[06:02] <mtnman80> crash1hd: I can try with the other flash drive that I have.  We'll see if that works ...
[06:03] <crash1hd> seems odd but maybe the only other thing you can do is go into your bios and look for anything that says usb and disable it
[06:04] <NickMind> someone clear my head.  This line:  *.*;auth,authpriv.none          -/var/log/syslog ...  I my syslog.conf said all messages are writing to syslog.  Correct?
[06:04] <nronksr> what other app can I use to get an iso to usb for usb-booting?  unetbootin isn't working properly on this system.
[06:04] <NickMind> But when i look in syslog file i don't see all.
[06:04] <mtnman80> crash1hd: when I plugged in the other USB drive, the black screen after the introductory IBM screen now says "Invalid system disk.  Replace the disk, and then place any key ..."
[06:05] <crash1hd> sounds like your bios is trying to boot from the usb device
[06:05] <mtnman80> crash1hd: ok.  let me go into BIOS and see if I can disable any of the USB settings ... just a sec ...
[06:05] <crash1hd> you need to look into your bios settings for boot order or keep pressing f8 usually gives you the ability to boot from choice
[06:05] <crash1hd> dont disable
[06:06] <crash1hd> mtnman80, look for boot order
[06:06] <crash1hd> and change it so that the usb device is not at the front
[06:07] <mtnman80> yeah, I've been playing with the boot order.  let me tell you what I have when I get to that screen in BIOS .... just a sec ...
[06:08] <crash1hd> k
[06:09] <mtnman80> crash1hd: yeah, I know ... if I can just get it to boot up ... then I will plug the USB drive I originally had in again ... and properly remove it ... and restart ... to reset the system (if you will)
[06:09] <mtnman80> crash1hd: "HDD0" and "HDD1" is the hard drive, right?
[06:10] <mtnman80> crash1hd: "IDE HDD0" and "IDE HDD1", that is ... ???
[06:10] <crash1hd> yes
[06:10] <crash1hd> those are hard drives
[06:10] <archmage_> whats the IDE stand for
[06:11] <mtnman80> crash1hd: This did not work last time I tried this, but I will let you know what i get on the black screen ...
[06:12] <mtnman80> crash1hd: This is what I got: "PXE-E61: Media test failure.  Check Cable" and "PXE-M0F: Exiting Broadcom PXE ROM"
[06:13] <mtnman80> crash1hd: ... and then it says "Operating System not found"
[06:13] <crash1hd> archmage_, IDE = Integrated Drive Electronics
[06:13] <tensorpudding> what it stands for isn't that important
[06:14] <tensorpudding> what's important is the connectors they use
[06:14] <tensorpudding> IDE drives have the old wide ribbon cables
[06:14] <mtnman80> crash1hd: that is what I got after setting the primary two devices in the boot order to the two IDE drives I just mentioned.  What the heck?
[06:15] <crash1hd> mtnman80, hmm not sure beyond that I would google what those are but it sounds like you lost your boot loader (You may have to go into live cd (if you can) and see if you can fix your mbr)
[06:15] <NickMind> someone msg me if your all good with syslog configuration.
[06:15] <mtnman80> crash1hd: what do you mean by "boat loader" ?
[06:16] <lapion> mtnman80, most ide controllers use scsi-emulation, and get /dev/sd designations
[06:16] <crash1hd> mtnman80, boot loader is what loads the OS
[06:16] <mtnman80> crash1hd: wait a second, now it's booting up just fine it seems.  So weird!  Let me log in, plug in the USB device I originally had in, properly remove it, restart, and then see if things are still working normally ...
[06:17] <mtnman80> lapion: can you explain that just a little bit more?  I would like to understand :)
[06:17] <crash1hd> in your bios you can set your boot order of devices
[06:17] <crash1hd> mtnman80, glad its working
[06:17] <tinfury> I can't seem to get desktop cube to work on 11.04 with gnome classic. Can anyone help?
[06:18] <tinfury> I have an NVidia 7400 but nothing seems to work. In the compiz config manager none of the settings seem to take
[06:18] <mtnman80> lapion: what is "scsi-emulation", I mean?
[06:19] <mtnman80> lapion: I understand the /dev/sd designations.  That was my problem ... and for some reason when I did not remove it properly ... it seemed like the boot order got all screwed up in BIOS ...
[06:20] <sammy> so I'm aware installing a .deb from a newer version is risky, and its better to use `apt-get -b source -t newdistname package` but I'd like to install a package from debian sid. should I light up the entire repository in my sources, or can I use apt-get to build the package from source using the downloaded files from, say, using dget?
[06:20] <lapion> ide controllers on newer kernels use drivers that emulate scsi controllers so instead of ide0-master=/dev/hda ide1-master=/dev/hdc ide0-master=/dev/sda ide1-master=sdb ( that is if there are no slave drives
[06:20] <mtnman80> lapion: ok. the driver part I get.  what are "scsi controllers", though?
[06:21] <mtnman80> lapion: forgive me for still being a little ignorant with actual computer / OS components ...
[06:22] <sonno> Hey everyone. I've been having a lot of trouble with my pc lately and would like to quit bumming on my brother's. I downloaded damn small linux onto a flash drive and can't seem to figure out if I can get my WUSB54G to work with it. From what I've read, some say it's impossible, and others that I just need a driver.
[06:22] <lapion> scsi=smaal computer systems interface
[06:22] <sonno> Anybody have a clue how I can find out or do something about it?
[06:22] <lapion> small
[06:23] <mtnman80> lapion: I see.  so let me see if I understand what you are saying.  so the system was reading the driver for my USB to emulate the scsi controllers on my system?
[06:23] <sonno> WUSB54G being a linksys wireless adapter (in case someone knows about internet config, but not model numbers)
[06:24] <mtnman80> lapion: why the heck did the system automatically think it needed to boot from the USB ... after I improperly removed it?  that is so strange!
[06:24] <Stingray88> Hey guys, I had a SMB server configuration GUI for Ubuntu before, hard drive crashed and I installed ubuntu on a new drive... but I can't seem to find that SMB GUI, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:24] <Flannel> sonno: You should ask in #damnsmalllinux, which likely means you should really be using tinycore and asking in #tinycorelinux
[06:24] <lapion> mtnman80, that has nothing to do with ubuntu/linux you are mixing things up
[06:25] <sonno> Well if you don't have an answer, you could help with the wording of the question.
[06:25] <sonno> Or not reply.
[06:25] <sonno> That'd be okay too.
[06:25] <mtnman80> lapion: ok.  sorry for my misunderstanding.  you are talking about hardware, then?
[06:25] <sonno> Flannel: Is tiny core a distro?
[06:25] <Flannel> sonno: this channel is for Ubuntu support, not general linux questions.  There's 1400 people in here, we can't just have random questions being asked, it would make this channel useless.
[06:25] <Flannel> sonno: yes.
[06:25] <sonno> I've only ever messed with ubuntu for a very short while.
[06:26] <sonno> I understand. Thanks for the advice.
[06:26] <usr_1104> hi all, anyone here use clonezilla before?
[06:26] <lapion> mtnman80, I was talking about hardware and how linux manages it, your problem is not linux/unix related but rather bios related
[06:26] <sonno> I just remembered the ubuntu folks being knowledgable and friendly. Thanks again.
[06:27] <mtnman80> lapion: I see.  So it has to do with automatic configurations for my BIOS and how it operates in various situations ...
[06:28] <bitsflash> 007minhoca
[06:28] <Stingray88> Does anyone know of a SMB server configuration GUI for Ubuntu?
[06:28] <lapion> mtnman80, if your system keeps on trying to boot of usb devices enter the bios and change the boot order, or disconnect all usb disks at boot
[06:28] <mtnman80> lapion: I just know to make sure to remove this "ext4-formatted" USB drive properly from now on so as to not run into anymore problems with it.  I think I'm actually going to reformat it to the file system that allows me to use it on both a Windows PC and in Linux ...
[06:28] <Stingray88> I had one before
[06:29] <tinfury> Anyone?
[06:29] <lapion> mtnman80, that is unless you installed the ubuntu on a usb stick.
[06:29] <lapion> mtnman80, or maybe you setup grub to boot via usb
[06:30] <mtnman80> lapion: yeah, I've already reorderd the boot order ... and that took care of the startup problem.  If I tell the BIOS to disconnect all USB disks at boot ... will I still be able to use the flash drive after it boots up into Ubuntu?
[06:30] <mtnman80> how do I setup grub to boot via usb?
[06:31] <mtnman80> lapion: how do I setup grub to boot via USB?  I think this is a wise idea ...
[06:31] <lapion> mtnman80, I was just teling you in case you dud so..
[06:32] <lapion> I run my linux system of an external usb-hdd because the laptop has a defect internal sata controller
[06:32] <Stingray88> Does anyone know of an SMB server gui
[06:32] <Stingray88> I had one before and I can't find it now
[06:33] <Ben64> nautilus lets you browse network shares
[06:33] <sammy> Stingray88: youre talking about a GUI to configure a samba server on your ubuntu box?
[06:33] <Almighty> is it possible to have a faulty library in a folder that's getting used instead of a good one in a folder like /lib/
[06:33] <Stingray88> sammy: correct
[06:34] <mtnman80> lapion: no but like ... do I put grub on my ext4-formatted USB ... as a backup?
[06:34] <sammy> Stingray88: check out system-config-samba
[06:34] <usr_1104> anyone here can help on clonezilla for imaging ubuntu ext4 fs?
[06:34] <Stingray88> sammy: thanks will do
[06:34] <usr_1104> i have problem doing that to my hp elitebook 8450w
[06:34] <atlantean> I configured samba on ubuntu and then I shared it with a vista pc.... later I revoked the share..... the vista pc upgraded to win 7.  Will the share need to be redone?
[06:35] <sammy> so I'm aware installing a .deb from a newer version is risky, and its better to use `apt-get -b source -t newdistname package` but I'd like to install a package from debian sid. should I light up the entire repository in my sources, or can I use apt-get to build the package from source using the downloaded files from, say, using dget?
[06:35] <mtnman80> lapion: I think you can save an image of the OS to an USB, if I am not mistaken ...
[06:36] <Almighty> what's the variable for search paths for libraries etc?
[06:36] <mtnman80> lapion: or can't you back up your current system on a USB?
[06:36] <atlantean> Hello everyone
[06:36] <Ben64> sammy: the best thing to do would be to find an ubuntu repo for it
[06:38] <sammy> Ben64: the ubuntu repo is 4 minor versons behind. the newest ppa is one. I'm happy to properly build it from the sid source files, there are very few patches installed and most have been applied over the last few minor versions. I'm just curious about people's experience with adding a debian repo and building from source that way, or if its easy enough to just grab the sources for a single package.
[06:39] <Ben64> source is pretty easy
[06:39] <Ben64> i build my own mplayer
[06:39] <archmage_> dang
[06:39] <mtnman80> lapion: anyway, thanks for your input :)
[06:39] <sammy> Ben64: from the mplayer original sources, or from debian patched and tested sources, with proper control and init files etc etc
[06:40] <sammy> Ben64: I'd rather not go the whole 'build a debian package from source' route since someone already has for this version.
[06:40] <Ben64> actually, mplayer2, their original source
[06:40] <Ben64> mplayer2 works much better for me
[06:41] <sammy> Ben64: yeah, I considered that, but since sid already has a debian package for this version, Id rather just rebuild that against my copies of erlang, libc etc etc (since you shouldnt mix/match binarires from newer versions)
[06:41] <Ben64> that just seems like more work, imo
[06:42] <sammy> Ben64: if I were to build the package from oneiric, its a single command :)
[06:42] <sammy> Ben64: and if I were to add the sid repository to my sources.list, its also a single command
[06:43] <sammy> apt-get -b source -t oneiric packagename < will rebuild from the oneiric source package on my natty system, if it compiles correctly and all the dependencies are available
[06:45] <u_1104> skype always crash on my Ubuntu 11.04, any cure?
[06:45] <zykotick9> sammy, mixing repos with other distros (including debian) is a bad idea.  building mplayer from the original source makes a lot more sense to me.
[06:49] <joshua291981> Enter text here...hi
[06:50] <u_1104> joshua291981, hi
[06:50] <u_1104> zykotick9, can u help me?
[06:50] <oxo> hi all
[06:50] <u_1104> oxo, hi, u need help?
[06:51] <zykotick9> u_1104, sorry, skype isn't free software - i can't help.
[06:51] <u_1104> zykotick9, okay, thanks
[06:52] <u_1104> zykotick9, is there equivalent free software for Ubuntu that can use to conenct to skype?
[06:52] <oxo> im lookink for a free vpn service like hotspot shield in winfows for my lovely ubuntu
[06:52] <zykotick9> u_1104, i *wish* there was
[06:52] <u_1104> zykotick9, lol, okay....
[07:03] <sammy> zykotick9: why is it a bad idea if I am recompiling the package from its sources?
[07:03] <Yusuke> Hello, i tried to boot 11.04 beta1 in my pendrive . i used Universal USB Installer v1.7.9 ..but when i tried to boot it lags at "SYSLINUX 3.86 blablabla".
[07:03] <sammy> zykotick9: its already a debian package, so its dependencies are well marked and can be built from source if necessary as well. I'm well aware mixing binaries from newer versions is a bad idea, that is what I'm trying to avoid.
[07:04] <sammy> zykotick9: but someone has already gone through the trouble to make a debian package for this application, complete with working init scripts log rotation etc etc. there's no point in me using the developer's original, vanilla source package.
[07:06] <Yusuke> Hello, i tried to boot 11.04 beta1 in my pendrive . i used Universal USB Installer v1.7.9 ..but when i tried to boot it lags at "SYSLINUX 3.86 blablabla".
[07:06] <zykotick9> sammy, it's your computer - you should do what YOU want, not what some random guy (me) on the internet says.  good luck man.
[07:08] <pooky> I'm running thunderbird 7 under 11.04 ubuntu and I continuously get the error "failed to create drawable"
[07:09] <pooky> I tried to look online for a solution, but couldn't really get an answer relevant to just thunderbird
[07:09] <pooky> firefox seems to work fine however, would anyone here have a suggestion?
[07:14] <Yusuke> thanks pooky
[07:16] <sammy> zykotick9: I'm genuinely curious, I didn't mean to imply I thought you were wrong. I thought the issue with mixing binary versions was the libraries they were compiled against. I thought having apt-get build packages from source for you solved that issue.
[07:17] <Yusuke> you are genuinely right sammy
[07:21] <mtnman80> can anyone help me with a startup problem on my IBM Thinkpad related to the BIOS settings.  I am running Ubuntu ...
[07:21] <mtnman80> ???
[07:21] <u_1104> anyone here using HP EliteBook 8540w and have problem with the docking station?
[07:22] <u_1104> mtnman80, what exactly is your problem with ur startup?
[07:22] <dc5ala> mtnman80, just try to describe your problem, then can see if someone is able to help
[07:23] <zykotick9> sammy, it's the mixing of libraries/package requirements - between two different distros (and thus two package standard systems) that I think is rather risky.  it will probably work!  but... you "could" be introducing a system wide problem by building and installing mplayer (and any package requirement) from a system that wasn't intended to be used with ubuntu.
[07:26] <mtnman80> u_1104: it seems like my BIOS keeps going back to default boot order settings, which sets the USB as the primary device for bootup (at the top of the order) ... even when I reset the primary device for booting to be the hard drive.  It's like the new BIOS settings don't stick ...
[07:27] <AndroUser2> u_1104 hi there..I am using the same laptop.
[07:27] <mtnman80> u_1104: it will boot up normally other times ... just fine ... right into Ubuntu.  But most other times it gives me this error of "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable.  PXE-M0F: Exiting Broadcom PXE ROM.  Operating system not found"
[07:27] <mtnman80> u_1104: How do I permanently fix this?
[07:28] <u_1104> mtnman80, did you check to make sure you have actually save the settings?
[07:28] <u_1104> mtnman80, okay, do u have laptop_mode installed?
[07:29] <mtnman80> u_1104: I am running an IBM Thinkpad T43 business model.  And yes, it prompts me to save the new boot order setting in BIOS every time.  I do, but still get the same errors on a black screen upon startup ...
[07:29] <sammy> zykotick9: by two different package standard systems you mean... .deb packages and .deb packages? I see your point if youre talking about, say, gentoo and ubuntu, or arch and ubuntu, but debian and ubuntu? as long as apt doesn't complain about any dependencies, I'm not sure what system wide problem I could be introducing
[07:29] <u_1104> mtnman80, how old is your notebook?
[07:31] <mtnman80> u_1104: I don't know ... a T43 ... which is an older molder, I guess.  This all started taking place after I improperly removed an ext4-formatted USB drive (physically removed) it without "safely removing it" by right-clicking on it ... before shutting down one-time ...
[07:31] <mtnman80> u_1104: This particular USB drive has been giving me significant problems ...
[07:32] <mtnman80> u_1104: it seems like it screws up my system on occasion when I use it ...
[07:32] <zykotick9> sammy, i don't really want to debate this - do what you want :)  But a DEB for Debian is not the same as a DEB for Ubuntu.
[07:33] <u_1104> mtnman80, hmmm, this is really interesting. I have not seen such problem caused by pulling out USB drive that was not properly unmount
[07:33] <u_1104> mtnman80, my guess is that ur cmos battery is giving up itself...
[07:34] <mtnman80> u_1104: ???   what do you mean by that?
[07:34] <mtnman80> u_1104: maybe if I physically remove the laptop battery and put in back it in ... that has helped sometimes ...
[07:34] <u_1104> mtnman80, u were saying that u can't keep your bios settings....this usually is because ur cmos battery is not functioning anymore
[07:34] <u_1104> mtnman80, it could also be ur battery problem
[07:35] <u_1104> mtnman80, for some reasons, it can't hold the electricity while it's off
[07:36] <amjad> assalamu alaikum
[07:36] <mtnman80> u_1104: when you say "cmos battery", you are referring to the main battery, right?  Or something different?
[07:37] <u_1104> amjad: hi, u from muslim country?
[07:37] <u_1104> mtnman80, sorry, i meant the main battery.
[07:37] <amjad> u_1104:I am from india. and u?
[07:38] <u_1104> amjad, oh, okay, i am from singapore
[07:38] <mtnman80> I think it definitely has to do with an electricity flow or something.  But I don't really know if this is true, because I have problems with startup before after using this one USB drive ... that was originally improperly formatted for Linux ...
[07:38] <u_1104> mtnman80, best to check your battery first and work out from there...
[07:39] <mtnman80> u_1104: well, I physically removed and put my battery back into the laptop again ... and I got the same problem, so ...
[07:40] <amjad> i want internet part time job.. anyone can help me?
[07:40] <u_1104> mtnman80, okay, then i can't help you there....for some reasons i doubt it's the linux causing it....can i know which version of kernel u are running?
[07:40] <u_1104> amjad: wrong channel to ask that...
[07:40] <amjad> u_1104: can you help me?
[07:41] <u_1104> amjad: no
[07:42] <mtnman80> u_1104: give me some options for the kernel version ... and then I can choose one ...
[07:42] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[07:47] <u_1104> mtnman80, uname -a
[07:47] <mtnman80> u_1104: ???  Is that a command you are telling me to run?
[07:47] <u_1104> mtnman80, yes
[07:48] <mtnman80> u_1104: how do I run a command when I am not even booted into Ubuntu?
[07:48] <u_1104> mtnman80, okay, tough luck then :)
[07:48] <u_1104> mtnman80, can't help you much there.
[07:48] <mtnman80> u_1104: what is that command supposed to do?
[07:48] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[07:49] <mtnman80> u_1104: because sometimes it boots in ... and then I can run it ...
[07:49] <u_1104> mtnman80, well, it will report you the kernel version
[07:49] <mtnman80> u_1104: what if I booted up via live CD with a previous version?
[07:50] <u_1104> mtnman80, u can give that a try...
[07:50] <RajeevGEC> how can i change the default permissions of directories under /var/www
[07:50] <mtnman80> u_1104: I know it's not a hard drive issue, because it was working just fine earlier today ...
[07:51] <u_1104> this is an example output of the uname -a
[07:52] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[07:53] <RajeevGEC> how can i change the default permissions of directories under /var/www
[07:54] <mtnman80> u_1104: what will knowing the kernal version help us to do in terms of fixing this problem?
[07:55] <u_1104> mtnman80, well, it can at least point out if you are using old kernel....new kernel sometimes help in fixing ur problem.
[07:57] <mtnman80> u_1104: ok.  this is the kernel version that I have: Linux ubuntu 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:57] <mtnman80> u_1104: at least that is the total output I got after running the command you gave me ...
[07:58] <mtnman80> u_1104: do I need to update my kernel?
[07:59] <u_1104> mtnman80, yes, looks like u are using old kernel.
[08:00] <u_1104> 2.6.38-11 #50 is the latest
[08:00] <auronandace> mtnman80: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:00] <mtnman80> u_1104: Natty Narwhal, I believe.  The newest one ...
[08:00] <mtnman80> u_1104: how do I update the kernel?
[08:00] <auronandace> mtnman80: 10.04 uses 2.6.32
[08:01] <mtnman80> u_1104: what commands would I run in terminal to do so ... to update to 2.6.32?
[08:01] <u_1104> mtnman80, probably try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:02] <mtnman80> u_1104: Sorry ... I am actually running 11.04
[08:02] <u_1104> mtnman80, that's fine.
[08:02] <mtnman80> u_1104: I still need to updgrade, though ... right .. by running that command you just gave me?
[08:02] <u_1104> mtnman80, yes
[08:02] <mtnman80> u_1104: ok.  doing so now.  I hope this fixes my problem ....
[08:02] <auronandace> mtnman80: then why did it output 2.6.31? did you upgrade from previous versions?
[08:03] <mtnman80> auronandace: no.  that is the version I am running.  it is outdated ... and I need to upgrade ...
[08:04] <auronandace> mtnman80: natty never shipped with 2.6.31, it shipped with 2.6.38, how did you get 2.6.31?
[08:04] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[08:04] <mtnman80> auronandace: I am running Karmic Koala ... 11.04
[08:04] <auronandace> mtnman80: karmic is not supported
[08:04] <auronandace> !eol | mtnman80
[08:05] <mtnman80> auronandace: so you are saying that won't be able to get an updated version of the kernel?
[08:06] <DeichShaf> hi folks
[08:06] <mtnman80> auronandace: .... even though I need an updated version (2.6.38) to run things properly and without problems?
[08:06] <auronandace> mtnman80: it would be easier to install natty fresh
[08:07] <mtnman80> auronandace: so what is the point of having 11.04, then ... since it is no longer supported?  For this reason, you are saying it is better to run Natty Narwhal?
[08:07] <auronandace> mtnman80: you are not running 11.04!
[08:08] <auronandace> !karmic | mtnman80
[08:08] <auronandace> !natty | mtnman80
[08:08] <DeichShaf> i'm having a little trouble, getting 11.04 installed on my machine: after confirming installation prerequisites with "Next", the cursor changes to clock but there happens nothing else for over an hour. if i try the same image within virtual box everything wents fine and i can select a harddisk to assign in the next step. but i can't get to this step on my machine, if i try setup from cd.
[08:08] <DeichShaf> is it possible that having a ssd built in may cause this?
[08:09] <mtnman80> auronandace: I am running the newest version, that is all I know.  So that would be Natty Narwhal.  Sorry for my mixup :)
[08:09] <auronandace> mtnman80: please stop it, you are lying
[08:09] <mtnman80> auronandace: not really :)
[08:09] <auronandace> mtnman80: you are running karmic which is no longer supported
[08:10] <Ben64> if you want to run a version without upgrading for a long time, use LTS. Last one was Lucid
[08:10] <mtnman80> auronandace: I know for a fact I am not running 9.10.  That has an orange background as default on the desktop.  That is not what I currently see.  I have a purple-white theme ...
[08:11] <mtnman80> auronandace: ... with maybe another color or two thrown in there ...
[08:11] <puntje> am new to Linux/Ubuntu and wanted to know wether I should get an antivirus here as well. Is ClamAV a good alternative ?
[08:11] <Ben64> antivirus is not really needed
[08:12] <auronandace> mtnman80: themes are easy to change/install, you still haven't explained why you are running 2.6.31
[08:12] <Ben64> puntje: as long as you have good practices you should be safe. (Don't run things as root, or run unknown files/commands)
[08:12] <DeichShaf> puntje: i suggest to not use any av, exept for mails (in case you want to forward some mails, they might be cleaned before forwarding them)
[08:12] <in0cula> hi, i have ATI 5470 and INTEL graphic card, how do i switch off ATI, my laptop overheat
[08:13] <puntje> alright, thank you
[08:13] <mtnman80> auronandace: maybe it's because I am running 9.10 off a live CD ... and so that is why it is pulling up that version when I run "uname -a" in Terminal ...  I am having problems booting into 11.04. I get these errors upons startup.  It's driving me batty.  I don't know how to remedy the problem ...
[08:14] <oxo> i cant install vida
[08:14] <oxo> lia
[08:14] <oxo> im on 11.10
[08:15] <auronandace> mtnman80: then why didn't you mention that when somebody told you to run uname?
[08:15] <auronandace> mtnman80: can't you use the cd for 11.04 instead (as your livecd)
[08:16] <mtnman80> I don't know.  I was just following their guidance when told to run uname.  But since I can't boot into 11.04 ... I thought I could do it off a live CD.  I forgot that the results are "per version of the OS" ... so this is not going to work ...  I will try running my 11.04 CD.  Last time it didn't work.  I might need to burn the ISO again ...
[08:18] <mtnman80> auronandace: I don't know.  I was just following their guidance when told to run uname.  But since I can't boot into 11.04 ... I thought I could do it off a live CD.  I forgot that the results are "per version of the OS" ... so this is not going to work ...  I will try running my 11.04 CD.  Last time it didn't work.  I might need to burn the ISO again ...
[08:18] <amjad> anyone can help me to find internet part time typing job?
[08:19] <auronandace> mtnman80: i hope someone else can help you
[08:19] <mtnman80> auronandace: ok.  I appreciate your efforts, though.  Thank you :)
[08:21] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[08:22] <mtnman80> can anyone tell me ... that if I run 11.04 off a live CD ... and update my kernel ... that it will fix any problems that I am currently having with system startup and BIOS?
[08:30] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. I've got 'Server not responding. Try again later' trying to sync tomboy notes with the ubuntu one notes running tomboy in terminal shows 400 BAD REQUEST. However, the URI is correct: https://one.ubuntu.com/notes http://susepaste.org/73099930
[08:31] <seidell> how do i install crunchbang?
[08:31] <martin_PL> hello everyone, who is booting to Ubuntu from a SD CARD?
[08:36] <BlackBishop> anyone knows a server ( and client for linux ) that could allow me to share a soundcard on the server ?
[08:43] <se7en> how can i share a folder so windows can access them?
[08:44] <psycho_oreos> samba
[08:45] <se7en> i use samba to access files on the windows computer.
[08:45] <se7en> does it work the other way as well
[08:45] <DeichShaf_> yes it does
[08:45] <DeichShaf_> but you will have to configure samba as server
[08:45] <psycho_oreos> http://www.samba.org/
[08:45] <se7en> oh that sounds not so easy
[08:45] <DeichShaf_> either automatically or manually by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:46] <se7en> DeichShaf_: automatically sounds good to me
[08:46] <DeichShaf_> i suggest to take a glance at the config-file
[08:46] <se7en> how
[08:46] <se7en> ok
[08:46] <DeichShaf_> its easy to understand
[08:46] <se7en> can it only be done one way at the time?
[08:47] <se7en> like would the editing kill my setup to access the files on the windows box?
[08:48] <oxo> se7en are u using win7?
[08:49] <se7en> i am using linux but the other box is windows7 oxo
[08:49] <crash1hd> Can anyone tell me how to remove the uefi ubuntu boot choice in my bios?
[08:50] <oxo> sure
[08:50] <se7en> this setup is for a friend of mine, who uses linux but want to share a drive with windows 7 oxo
[08:53] <Wurstmenschlein> hello there - may anyone tell me why i'm not able to access my windows7 shares from my natty ubuntu (64bit) machine although i'm able to see them? all i get when i try to access them is the error "unable to mount windows share"
[08:53] <oxo> se7en   samba
[08:53] <oxo> ¡
[08:54] <Wurstmenschlein> ?
[08:54] <Wurstmenschlein> i configured samba already using a gui
[08:54] <Wurstmenschlein> but i should be able to at least access the shares from another machine even without samba, shouldn't i?
[08:55] <martin_PL> hi, i'm booted to Ubuntu from SD card, how do i boot the regular HDD so i can access it?
[08:56] <ikonia> martin_PL: you remove the SD card and reboot the machine.
[08:56] <ikonia> martin_PL: the machine will then default to boot from the local hard disk
[08:56] <fmolinero_> 555555
[08:57] <martin_PL> ikonia, nono, i do not want to boot into the internal HDD - i want to access (read write) to the internal HDD right now from the ubuntu (on SD card)
[08:57] <Wurstmenschlein> can't anyone help me with my problem?
[08:57] <ikonia> martin_PL: the disk should be auto mounted on your desktop
[08:57] <ikonia> martin_PL: is there a file system on the internal hard disk ?
[08:58] <mtnman80> Hello.  I need to update my kernel from 2.6.31 to 2.6.38 in order to get my system to boot up and run Ubuntu properly in 11.04.  Can this be successfully accomplished via a live CD of 11.04?
[08:58] <DeichShaf_> wurstmenschlein: ich gehe mal davon aus, dass du deutsch lannst?
[08:58] <DeichShaf_> -l +k
[08:58] <ikonia> mtnman80: why do you need to update your kernel. What is the reason.
[08:58] <oCean> !de | DeichShaf_ Wurstmenschlein
[08:58] <Wurstmenschlein> ja, sicher
[08:58] <ikonia> martin_PL: it's also worth lookin in the /media file system to see if your internal hard disk has been auto mounted there
[08:58] <martin_PL> ikonia, the internal HDD are not mounted after ubuntu startup, the internal HDD are ntfs drives (they are not visible on the desktop, nautilus, nor /mnt or /media)
[08:58] <DeichShaf_> ubottu: thanks for that hint, i was about to help wurstmenschlein a bit
[08:59] <DeichShaf_> ...
[08:59] <oCean> DeichShaf_: only in english here
[08:59] <ikonia> martin_PL: have you tried to manually mount it ?
[08:59] <martin_PL> ikonia, how do i do that? :)
[08:59] <ikonia> martin_PL: could you please pastebin the output of the following command "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:00] <mtnman80> ikonia: I am having major problems with the involving the BIOS on my IBM Thinkpad.  Another one of the support staff thought that one of updating my kernel would help.  Basically, I used a USB thumb drive formatted in ext4 earlier this evening ... and since then ... my computer had problems starting up.  It's like reading the USB drives, detecting a problem, and then telling me the operating system cannot be found ... which is bullcra
[09:00] <theadmin> ikonia: May I wonder, why do people do "sudo fdisk -l" rather than "ls /dev/sd*"? That last one doesn't need root priveleges...
[09:01] <ikonia> mtnman80: I can't see a kernel change fixing a bios issue. What is the actual issue you are having
[09:01] <ikonia> theadmin: because it shows the partition table and disk sizes so it's easier to work out what disk is what
[09:02] <theadmin> ikonia: Guess that does make sense :D
[09:02] <mtnman80> ikonia: this is even in lieu of switching my boot order in the BIOS to have the primary device be the hard drive instead of USB devices ...  For some reason, even time I use this particular USB flash drive ... and even remove it properly by right-clicking and choosing "safely remove" ... then shutting down ... it throws my computer into a tizzy when starting up.
[09:03] <ikonia> mtnman80: that's nothing to do with ubuntu, and therefore nothing to do with a kernel update.
[09:03] <martin_PL> ikonia, i think it might be too long for the chat, it lists two devices: 1) internal HDD on dev/sda with sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 sda5 partitions and 2) sdb with the ubuntu
[09:03] <ikonia> martin_PL: that's why I asked you to use a pastebin
[09:03] <ikonia> !pastebin | martin_PL
[09:04] <mtnman80> ikonia: I have an IBM Thinkpad.  I see.  Well, I need to burn the ISO for 11.04 again anyway, but the first one I burned wasn't working ...  How else would you recommend fixing the problem?
[09:04] <martin_PL> !pastebinit Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[09:04] <martin_PL> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[09:04] <martin_PL> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:04] <martin_PL> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:04] <martin_PL> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:04] <martin_PL> Disk identifier: 0xe6beb1cf
[09:04] <mtnman80> ikonia: Ubuntu has booted up fine just a couple of times, but the other times I keep getting the same errors upon startup ...
[09:04] <ikonia> mtnman80: you've not explained anything about the problem as you keep using no-descript words like "it has the problem" or "gets in a tizzy". When you explain the problem clearly we can look at a resolution
[09:04] <martin_PL>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:04] <martin_PL> /dev/sda1   *           1          26      204800    7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:04] <martin_PL> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[09:04] <martin_PL> /dev/sda2              26       24524   196782080    7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:05] <martin_PL> /dev/sda3           24524       28476    31738880    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[09:05] <martin_PL> /dev/sda4           28476       30402    15471800   12  Compaq diagnostics
[09:05] <martin_PL> /dev/sda5           24524       28476    31737856    7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:05] <__machine> i downloaded 64bit ubuntu server from ubuntu.com and the filename is amd64.iso … does that only run on amd cpus? how do i get the intel 64bit version?
[09:05] <martin_PL> Disk /dev/sdb: 7948 MB, 7948206080 bytes
[09:05] <martin_PL> 245 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1021 cylinders
[09:05] <oCean> martin_PL: please read the link ubottu send you about the pastebin
[09:05] <theadmin> __machine: That's intel-compatible too
[09:05] <theadmin> __machine: It's just a Linux tradition to call 64-bit "amd64".
[09:05] <oCean> martin_PL: you should use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:06] <mtnman80> ikonia -- ok.  let me boot up again and tell you the exact error as they read verbatim ...
[09:06] <__machine> theadmin: thanks
[09:08] <theadmin> __machine: Given that you don't know even that fact, I think Ubuntu Server isn't for you -- it comes with no graphical interface whatsoever. Are you sure you even want that?
[09:08] <mtnman80> ikonia: here are the errors I am getting upon startup -- "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable; PXE-M0F: Exiting Broadcom PXE ROM; Operating system not found"
[09:08] <martin_PL> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/704363/
[09:08] <Fargh> how do I prevent ubuntu from using bad sectors ?
[09:08] <Fargh> smartmontools is already enabled.
[09:08] <__machine> theadmin: yes, im sure
[09:09] <idovecer> Fargh, replace HDD
[09:09] <damno> if I want to exclude some deamons from starting up @ the time of sys start, would sumply removing the corresponding shell scripts from /etc/init.d do the job?
[09:09] <mtnman80> ikonia: last time we had this problem ... we did something to edit the fstab ... I think ...
[09:10] <theadmin> damno: Use update-rc.d
[09:10] <viller> I have installed libsdl-dev but when I try to compile with gcc file.c -lSDL then gcc will complain SDL.h doesn't exist
[09:10] <Fargh> nice answer idovecer ....
[09:10] <mtnman80> ikonia: would editing "fstab" help in this instance?
[09:11] <damno> theadmin: after removing the shell scripts? the programs are still installed though
[09:11] <Fargh> anyone has a smarter idea ?
[09:11] <idovecer> yes
[09:11] <idovecer> it is
[09:11] <theadmin> damno: No, just read that manpage. It's a system service management thing.
[09:11] <damno> theadmin: ok. thanks
[09:12] <martin_PL> ikonia, to mount the drive should i make a directory in /media (sudo mkdir /media/mount1) and then command: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/mount1  ?
[09:12] <idovecer> btw, anyone know is there any tool with which you can improve boot up of Ubuntu
[09:12] <llutz> Fargh: if your hdd cannot hide badblocks anymore, its broken. there's no software to prevent that, so you should replace the hdd
[09:12] <idovecer> I already know for bootchart
[09:13] <mtnman80> ikonia: would should /etc/fstab look like if Ubuntu is just booting normally from the hard drive?
[09:14] <theadmin> mtnman80: Still depends on the partitioning scheme
[09:14] <crash1hd> Is it sad that its faster to format and install then it is too move partitions around
[09:15] <mtnman80> crash1hd: hey ... I'm still having this start up problem after all ...
[09:15] <idovecer> damno: also you can try to use application Boot-Up Manager
[09:15] <Fargh> llutz: ok, thx.
[09:15] <mtnman80> crash1hd: it like ... worked a couple times ... booted normally into Ubuntu ... and then exhibited the same problem, showing the same errors .... again ...
[09:15] <crash1hd> mtnman80, that sucks
[09:16] <crash1hd> mtnman80, it sounds like something in your bios is not right
[09:16] <mtnman80> crash1hd: any other ideas?
[09:16] <crash1hd> unfortunatly no
[09:16] <ikonia> mtnman80: they are not errors
[09:16] <mtnman80> crash1hd: I can't figure out how to disable the USB drives upon startup in there either ...
[09:16] <crash1hd> but I dont think your issue is with the usb device
[09:16] <ikonia> mtnman80: that is netboot failing, which it should fail as you are not net booting
[09:17] <mtnman80> ikonia: netboot?  OK.  Then how do I get my system to recognize that I am not net booting?
[09:17] <ikonia> mtnman80: it's not a problem, it's just a warning.
[09:18] <ikonia> mtnman80: most systems will display that message (or wording to that effect)
[09:18] <mtnman80> crash1hd: that seems strange to me ... this is the second time I have had major startup problems after using this particular USB device.  There has to be correlation ...
[09:18] <mtnman80> ikonia: OK.  But startup doesn't go any further after these message display.  So what is going on?
[09:19] <ikonia> mtnman80: it will fall back to netboot if the your boot device is unavailable.
[09:19] <ikonia> mtnman80: which at that point, is nothing to do with ubuntu as your machine hasn't started to boot
[09:19] <crash1hd> I know that feeling its like if I stare at my machine when booting its fine but if I look away it locks up
[09:19] <crash1hd> just make sure your hdd is set to the first thing to boot from in the boot priority
[09:21] <mtnman80> ikonia: ok.  so what "boot device" is it pointing to?  The first time this happened tonight, I went in to check the BIOS settings ... and sure enough the default was set to a USB device being primary.  I don't know the default got that way anyway.  I was booting off the hard drive without a problem earlier today ...
[09:21] <martin_PL> hi, how do i manually mount the NTFS internal HDD partitions in Ubuntu (Ubuntu is run from an SD card) - output of sudo fdisk -l is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704363/
[09:21] <mtnman80> ikonia: i.e. what "boot device" is it saying is "unavailable" ?
[09:21] <ikonia> mtnman80: so either a.) the usb devvice has a problem b.) the notebook has an fault
[09:22] <crash1hd> I know with mine if the usb device is connected it will add it to the boot menu if it is not connected it will not show up
[09:22] <ikonia> martin_PL: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:22] <theadmin> ikonia: That'd be more like "sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt"
[09:22] <ikonia> martin_PL: that will mount it read only to see if the disk is accessable, from there we can move forward
[09:22] <ikonia> theadmin: no, it wouldn't
[09:23] <mtnman80> ikonia: and it doesn't matter if I plug in the original USB device I was using ... again.  I get the same message.  I think it is related to the usb device ... because this is the second time I have had major system startup problems after using this device.  I did not "safely remove" it in the OS before shutting down the first time either ... and I think that is what created the problem ...
[09:23] <theadmin> ikonia: Well, the one you gave is read-only...
[09:23] <ikonia> theadmin: correct, READ what I typed to him
[09:23] <mtnman80> ikonia: ... and then I physically removed it ... which I should not have done ...
[09:23] <ikonia> mtnman80: sounds like a hardware issue
[09:24] <Ben64> chkdsk and/or fsck?
[09:24] <mtnman80> ikonia: previously, with other USB devices ... even if I physically removed it prematurely ... I still didn't have the startup blow up on me.  But for some reason, this USB drive creates problems ... even though it is correctly formatted now in ext4
[09:25] <martin_PL> ikonia, ok, its mounted, when i open /mnt in nautilus i can see the partition contents
[09:25] <mtnman80> ikonia: so if it's a hardware issue ... what hardware is failing or dying ... would you say?
[09:25] <ikonia> martin_PL: ok, so you know the disk is fine and can be mounted
[09:25] <ikonia> mtnman80: I have no idea.
[09:25] <mtnman80> ikonia: scis?
[09:26] <ikonia> mtnman80: what are you talking about scis ?
[09:26] <ikonia> martin_PL: now if you unmount the disk with "sudo umount /mnt"
[09:26] <ikonia> martin_PL: we can move onto the suggestion theadmin was saying to mount it read-write
[09:26] <mtnman80> ikonia:  someone else told me that my system may be using drivers to emulate the scis controllers ...
[09:27] <ikonia> mtnman80: that is not a problem. All disk devics are seen as scsi
[09:27] <martin_PL> ikonia, ok, umounted :) and now should i go with: ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt  ?
[09:28] <ikonia> martin_PL: did you see what theadmin wrote earlier ?
[09:28] <murlidhar> can anyone tell me how to open a video in 16:9 ratio by default in totem movie player?
[09:28] <mtnman80> ikonia: last time, I booted 9.10 on a live CD to check /etc/fstab.  Then I edited right on the black screen upon start up.  Would it hurt to try this again?
[09:28] <ikonia> mtnman80: yes, that would cause a problem, but it would not cause the problem you are having
[09:29] <ikonia> mtnman80: please listen to what I'm saying. Your machine is NOT starting to boot, so therefore ubuntu is not involved at this time
[09:29] <ikonia> mtnman80: therefore making changes to ubuntu will not fix/break anything
[09:30] <martin_PL> ikonia, i think he suggested this command for read-wrtie purposes (on contrary to the one proposed by you for read only)
[09:30] <ikonia> martin_PL: did you actually see what he posted though? as in the command
[09:30] <mtnman80> ikonia: I guess you are right.  Because last time I edited fstab directly via command line ... the startup went further to allow me to do so ...
[09:30] <constrictor> any xubuntu 11.10 users here?
[09:30] <martin_PL> ikonia, ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt for read-write access to the ntfs drive
[09:30] <oCean> constrictor: Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released (still beta). Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[09:31] <ikonia> martin_PL: give that a try
[09:31] <theadmin> ikonia: Oh thanks
[09:31] <mtnman80> ikonia: some hardware failure was triggered by the improper removal of this USB drive.  It would be nice to know what that is ...
[09:32] <mtnman80> ikonia: I don't really know if there is any way to tell that though, at this point ...
[09:32] <Ben64> have you run fsck on the partition
[09:32] <mtnman80> Ben64: how would I do that without being able to boot in?
[09:32] <ikonia> mtnman80: does it matter - it's failing.
[09:32] <Ben64> should be able to from livecd
[09:33] <makara> Hi. I'm trying to add degrees / minutes with the Ubuntu calculator. Where is the degree key?
[09:33] <martin_PL> ikonia, the ntfs is mounted on /mnt, i opened it in nautilus and created an empty file there, is that ok?
[09:33] <mtnman80> Ben64: even the live CD of a previous version, right?
[09:33] <Ben64> yeah
[09:33] <mtnman80> ikonia: you are referring to the hard drive, right?
[09:34] <Ben64> well, you said ext4, so it'd probably need to have ext4 support
[09:34] <ikonia> martin_PL: sounds perfect. Well done
[09:34] <theadmin> Ben64: It's NTFS
[09:34] <Ben64> oh.
[09:34] <ikonia> mtnman80: your hardware is not working, it doesn't matter why it broke, it's broke, nothing is going to change that.
[09:34] <Ben64> then chkdsk from windows cd :|
[09:35] <martin_PL> ikonia, two last questions, how do i umount the drive after mounting it with ntfs-3g command? and can i mount it to some other folder than /mnt (for example a 'disk' folder in my desktop?
[09:35] <GriGi> Hi, i got little question, are there any way to undo this: "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"? I don't want icons in unity panel anymore
[09:35] <theadmin> martin_PL: 1) "sudo umount /mnt", 2) "sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 ~/Desktop/disk"
[09:35] <ikonia> martin_PL: use umount or right click on it and use unmount, and you can mount it where you want
[09:36] <mtnman80> ikonia: so I just need to somehow get booted in one more time, save all my stuff, and be done with it ... right?
[09:36] <ikonia> mtnman80: if thats what you want to do, sure.
[09:36] <mtnman80> Ben64: can you clarify?
[09:36] <theadmin> GriGi: Common sense tells me you should replace "all" with "none", but I'm not so sure
[09:36] <GriGi> Yea, i tried this but it didn't worked
[09:37] <Gerowen> Question, just installed Ubuntu 11.04 64bit, installed Adobe Flash Player from the software center, but Firefox isn't picking it up, suggestions?
[09:37] <Gerowen> I even removed and re-installed it
[09:37] <GriGi> are there any GUI interface for Unity Panel configuration?
[09:37] <Ben64> mtnman80: if its formatted ext, check it with fsck in ubuntu livecd, if its ntfs, check it with chkdsk in windows install cd
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> GriGi: its configured in ccsm
[09:38] <mtnman80> ikonia: ... that's assuming I can get booted in again at some point.  I think I saved all the important stuff on the problematic USB (and perhaps another one).  Good thing I just bought a new laptop ... even though it's a Windows PC ... but oh well ...
[09:38] <GriGi> So i need to install ccsm packet?
[09:38] <mtnman80> Ben64: I think I'm going to at least try that ... to hold on tight here a sec ...
[09:39] <Ben64> it might not work, but it can't hurt
[09:40] <GriGi> Okay, i find it, i need to leave empty space instead of 'all'
[09:40] <ubuntu__> hi all
[09:40] <GriGi> so im going to reboot, cya ;)
[09:40] <ubuntu__> hi all
[09:42] <GriGi> Okay, everything is working :).
[09:43] <crash1hd> has anyone used the uefi ubuntu install?
[09:44] <crash1hd> Cause I am having trouble getting ubuntu to boot properly after install
[09:44] <meerkats> when is 11.10 out?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> GriGi: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:46] <Artur> crash1hd: What problem?
[09:46] <crash1hd> it wont boot says that it cant find any os
[09:46] <GriGi> Okay, thanks ActionParsnip, that's what i was looking for :).
[09:47] <crash1hd> Artur, I have tried booting from the ubuntu boot choice and from hdd the only thing that works is the usb drive and the cd rom
[09:48] <crash1hd> Artur, see I installed ubuntu from USB uefi and then installed windows and somehow lost ubuntu so I reinstalled ubuntu and somehow lost windows
[09:48] <Ben64> crash1hd: windows always gets rid of grub, which is used to boot ubuntu
[09:48] <crash1hd> So now i am trying to reinstall ubuntu ontop of itself with the USB CD uefi version hoping that it will recreate the connection
[09:49] <Artur> crash1hd: can you boot into ubuntu?
[09:49] <crash1hd> Artur, from live cd yes
[09:49] <Ben64> when you're installing ubuntu, did you hit "erase entire disk" or something similar
[09:49] <crash1hd> no
[09:49] <Artur> crackerjackz: follow these steps http://goo.gl/TKQqu
[09:50] <Artur> crackerjackz: after boot into livecd
[09:50] <Ben64> that should work
[09:53] <AmD> Assalamu Alaikum
[09:53] <miha> got this new android tablet.. samba share doesnt work on it.. neither do i know how to set up that... MTP thing
[09:53] <miha> anyone has some experience? :)
[09:53] <crash1hd> I will give that a try after the install finishes if it doesnt work
[09:54] <Artur> miha: do you have es file manager on android?
[09:54] <Ben64> android is beyond the scope of this channel, but yeah, check the market for apps that can access samba shares
[09:54] <mtnman80> Ben64: ok.  here's the plan.  for some reason, this time when I booted up, it did so normally into Ubuntu.  Strange.  This time I was running a living CD .... and it booted instead off the hard drive into 11.04 as normal.  My BIOS is currently set to boot primarily off the hard drive.
[09:54] <miha> Artur: no?
[09:54] <miha> Artur: built in 'Files' dont work
[09:55] <Ben64> ikonia: you around?
[09:55] <oCean> miha: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[09:55] <Artur> miha:  you can acces files in smb share, but on android you must have app that have this funcion. I have es file manager (it was preinstalled on my device) and this work
[09:56] <Gerowen> Any idea why flash wouldn't be working on an almost out-of-the-box Ubuntu 11.04 install, even though I've uninstalled and re-installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:56] <mtnman80> Ben64: ... so I am going to run fsck and see what the results are.  I will also try "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" to make sure I have the most up to date version of the kernel.  I am also going to check to see if all the files on the home match what is on my USB drives ... in case none of this works .... and what "ikonia" has said is true in that my hardware is failing .. which in that case ... my computer is D
[09:56] <Ben64> if it is failing, you should make backups asap
[09:57] <mtnman80> Ben64: i,.e. perform any necessary backups ... as you just stated ...;
[09:57] <Ben64> :)
[09:57] <Artur> Gerowen: search for flash-aid in firefox extensions
[09:57] <miha> oCean: well, i asked on #android as well .. sorry
[09:57] <oCean> miha: it's offtopic here
[09:57] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[09:58] <miha> oCean: are 'mtp tools' offtopic too?
[09:58] <Gerowen> Artur: Just letting you know what I just found out, flashplugin-nonfree is installed, I did an updatedb, then did "locate libflash", the libflashplayer.so file that is normally in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins isn't there, even though the package is installed.
[09:58] <Ben64> miha: this channel is for ubuntu only
[09:58] <oCean> miha: this is only ubuntu
[09:59] <miha> oh well
[09:59] <Artur> Gerowen: in my case flash-aid helped with flash issues
[09:59] <Ben64> flash doesn't come out of the box because it is non-free
[10:00] <head_victim> adriana is spamming onjoin
[10:01] <oCean> head_victim: you can report such issues in #ubuntu-ops
[10:01] <mtnman80> Ben64: ok.  the result of "fsck" was that /dev/sdb1 was mounted.  It tells me that if I continue with the disc check, I will cause severe system damage. Should I proceed anyway ... or will I really cause severe system damage?
[10:01] <Gerowen> Artur: flash-aid did it, that's a sexy little addon, thanks!
[10:02] <Ben64> mtnman80: you should not fsck a mounted filesystem, thats asking for trouble
[10:02] <mtnman80> Ben64: or do I need to run a command in terminal to unmount /dev/sbd1.  Isn't that referring to the USB flash drive?
[10:02] <Ben64> aren't you booting off of it? if so you cannot unmount
[10:03] <mtnman80> Ben64: No, I am not booting off it currently.  It booted straight off the hard drive this time.  So /dev/sdb1 refers to the hard drive?  I am confused.  Isn't there a command that you can run to check "what is what", I thought?
[10:04] <theadmin> To fsck the root filesystem, you may do "sudo touch /forcefsck ; sudo reboot"
[10:04] <theadmin> Ben64: ^
[10:04] <Ben64> mtnman80: if you do "mount" on the command line, you will see where everything is mounted
[10:04] <theadmin> mtnman80: sudo fdisk -l may give some hints
[10:04] <Ben64> theadmin: i think he's having trouble booting though
[10:04] <Ben64> might not make it back
[10:04] <mtnman80> OK.  let me try these few things.  hold on a sec ...
[10:06] <head_victim> oCean & LjL cheers
[10:06] <mtnman80> Ben64: ran "sudo fdisk -l" as "theadmin" instructed.  /dev/sdb1 is indeed the main Linus OS.  /dev/sdb2 shows as the "extended" system.  /dev/sdb5 shows as the Linux swap / Solaris.
[10:07] <lok> hi all; i use ubuntu 11.04; earlier in my app tab there was a recently used app tab which has disappeared; hw cn i get it back?
[10:09] <mtnman80> Ben64: where should "/dev/sbd1" be mounted?  I just ran "mount", so I can tell you what it says ...
[10:09] <Ben64> where does it say it is
[10:10] <mtnman80> Ben64: it says it is on "/type ext4".  I don't really know what that means, but ...
[10:10] <Andy80> hi all
[10:10] <Ater> hi
[10:10] <Andy80> it's just me that I'm blind or there are not any differences in these 4 options http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown O_o ?
[10:10] <mtnman80> Ben64: so like ... is my OS mounted incorrectly.  Is that the whole problem?  Or is it still something else?
[10:11] <Ben64> mtnman80: "on / type ext4" means its the main linux partition
[10:11] <Ben64> not a problem at all
[10:11] <Ater> I'm trying to install ubuntu 10.04.3 TO usb memory stick, but installer won't recognize it. Any ideas?
[10:11] <theadmin> Andy80: Apparently so.
[10:12] <mtnman80> Ben64:  yeah.  so no problem there.  should I still run fsck on it, then ... or not?  We need to check the disk.  I should probably take the instructions given by "theadmin" to do fsck on the root filesystem ...
[10:12] <Andy80> Ater: what application are you using to put Ubuntu on the USB memory?
[10:12] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[10:12] <Ben64> mtnman80: i'm still confused, is it booting off the "bad" disk? or the external usb one? is there an internal one at all?
[10:13] <theadmin> mtnman80: Does it all work? If so, don't bother fscking around
[10:13] <mtnman80> Ben64: it's booting off the hard drive, which apparently is what "ikonia" said was failing ...
[10:14] <mtnman80> Ben64: it's booting off "IDE HDD0", which is the hard drive ... right?
[10:14] <Ater> Andy80: I used universal USB installer to get ubuntu 10.04.3 to boot from USB memory stick. It's working so far, but I'm trying to install that on another memory stick and can't get that to recognize
[10:14] <Ben64> i don't know how your system is set up
[10:14] <djalone> penguinfriends.org
[10:14] <mtnman80> Ben64: that is what is set as #1 currently in the boot order in BIOS ...
[10:15] <Andy80> Ater: how is the memory formatted? what kind of filesystem?
[10:15] <crash1hd> OK I think I have it right this time :) lets hope first 20MB dedicated to uefi then 40gb ntfs (for windows7) then 250 mb for /boot then 8GB for swap and the remaining for / :)
[10:15] <Ater> fat32
[10:16] <setient> sounds good crash1hd for the most part
[10:16] <setient> how big is the drive
[10:16] <crash1hd> 250GB
[10:16] <setient> i would have more like 200 gb for windows7
[10:17] <setient> you can read and write ntfs from linux
[10:17] <crash1hd> setient, whats annoying is that after installing and rebooting it doesnt boot
[10:17] <setient> but it is much harder to read/write ext3/ext4 from linux
[10:17] <crash1hd> yeah I know its a dedicated ubuntu media box
[10:17] <setient> o
[10:17] <crash1hd> with 8TB attached as ext4
[10:17] <setient> o
[10:17] <crash1hd> only adding windows 7 to play around with
[10:17] <Ater> Andy80: fat32
[10:17] <crash1hd> the occasional game
[10:17] <Andy80> Ater: it's ok...
[10:17] <mtnman80> theadmin: it all works this time, but I am afraid that once restart ... I am going to get the same warning messages again after the IBM splash page upon system startup: "sudo touch /forcefsck ; sudo reboot"
[10:18] <mtnman80> theadmin: that is why I think we should do the fsck on the root filesystem.  what do you think?
[10:18] <crash1hd> setient, the annoying part is sofar uptill now and this is like install #4 after installing and rebooting the uefi doesnt boot right
[10:18] <Andy80> Ater: are you using "Startup Disk Creator", the application that ship with Ubuntu, or another app? I don't have this clear....
[10:18] <setient> crash1hd: i have never had to play with uefi for the most part
[10:18] <setient> which is good
[10:18] <theadmin> mtnman80: If the hard drive is failing that won't help anyone
[10:19] <Ater> Andy80: Universal USB creator from Pendrivelinux
[10:19] <theadmin> mtnman80: And if it actually boots, this is not the problem
[10:19] <crash1hd> but this is the first time I have done custom partitioning instead of letting ubuntu choose where it places /boot inside /
[10:19] <Andy80> Ater: try using the one I just suggested then
[10:19] <crash1hd> not that it should matter since its just a pointer to /boot anyhow
[10:19] <crash1hd> in fstab
[10:19] <Ater> OK, thanks Andy80. I'll do that
[10:19] <theadmin> crash1hd: You should leave at least 100MB for /boot, imo
[10:19] <theadmin> crash1hd: Just saying
[10:20] <Andy80> Ater: you're welcome :)
[10:20] <crash1hd> theadmin, I set it to 250mb
[10:20] <theadmin> crash1hd: Will do well.
[10:20] <crash1hd> theadmin, the 20mb is for the efi
[10:20] <crash1hd> which has to be at the front of the drive from what I can tell
[10:20] <theadmin> crash1hd: I'm not sure how the EFI works -- does it need a separate partition?
[10:20] <mtnman80> theadmin: right.  if the system is booting.  then the hard drive is not failing.  It has to be something to do with this particular USB drive that screws up my system startup ... which did so again this time ... given that I did not "safely remove" it before shutting down the system this time ... and then I physically removed it ... which I should not have done ...
[10:20] <setient> crash1hd: what does it do
[10:20] <crash1hd> theadmin, it seems to need to be at the very front of the drive
[10:21] <theadmin> mtnman80: Um, if you shut down, all the plugged in devices will be unmounted ("safely removed", if you wish)
[10:21] <crash1hd> setient, its a pointer to /boot for the bios to the best of my knowledge
[10:21] <crash1hd> setient, the first time I installed ubuntu from usb efi it created a boot choice in the bios called ubuntu
[10:21] <mtnman80> theadmin: ok.  I believe you.  it is just such a coincidence that I have a major system startup problem right after using this USB drive ... for the second time in a row ...
[10:22] <crash1hd> and there doesnt seem to be anyway around it
[10:22] <crash1hd> which is why I am now on install number 4
[10:22] <theadmin> mtnman80: Could be something with the drive indeed, but then you need to run fsck on the USB drive, not on the hard drive...
[10:22] <crash1hd> shouldnt have messed with the first one
[10:22] <mtnman80> theadmin: ok.  I will run fsck on the USB drive then ... just a sec ... and then I will let you know the results ...
[10:23] <setient> i have no idea crash1hd
[10:24] <crash1hd> I think its new
[10:24] <tux-matt> hey all
[10:25] <mtnman80> theadmin: how do I specify that I want the system to run fsck solely on this USB drive that is now mounted?  What specific command do I enter?
[10:25] <mtnman80> theadmin: ... in Terminal?
[10:25] <theadmin> mtnman80: You need to unmount the drive...
[10:25] <theadmin> mtnman80: And I have no idea how it's named
[10:25] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[10:26] <crash1hd> OMG it actualy work lol
[10:27] <crash1hd> ok maybe I spoke too soon
[10:27] <pepito_> #ubuntu-uk
[10:27] <mtnman80> theadmin: how do I find out the name of this drive ... and then unmount it (versus safely remove it)?  What commands do I run?
[10:28] <mtnman80> theadmin: then what specific command do I run to fsck it?
[10:28] <mtnman80> theadmin: ... once I know the name of it?
[10:29] <theadmin> mtnman80: mount|grep "the current mountpoint of the drive" ; sudo umount "drive name you found" ; sudo fsck "drive name you found"
[10:31] <mtnman80> theadmin: I ran "sudo blkid".  I remember now, it is "/dev/sda1" for this thumb drive.  I will now run the other two commands you gave ... and get back to you in a minute ...
[10:31] <crash1hd> ok so the uefi partition has to be first no matter what
[10:32] <germain1>  hi all. I switched my laptop to Ubunutu 10.04 and my CPU is clocking @ 100% all the time. Anybody has any clue? Thanks
[10:33] <mtnman80> theadmin: how do you get that bar symbol inbetween "mount" and "grep", though?  what do you type?
[10:33] <theadmin> mtnman80: It's right above the Enter key on a standard US QWERTY keyboard...
[10:34] <crash1hd> and from what I have read you have to install ubuntu first before windows with uefi
[10:34] <crash1hd> ugg
[10:35] <juan_> HHH
[10:35] <juan_> HOLA
[10:35] <theadmin> !es | juan_
[10:35] <bazhang> !es | juan_
[10:36] <juan_> JOIN JOIN UVBUNTU-ES
[10:36] <LjL> juan_: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:36] <juan_> hola
[10:37] <juan_> join ubuntu.es
[10:37]  * LjL rolls eyes
[10:37] <wk> whenever I use any equalizer to increase the bass output, it gets really distorted, anyone know why?
[10:38] <wk> works fine in windows
[10:38] <orated> I got split files from file.img.bz2aa till file.img.bz2av. Is it possible that I cat file.img.bz2aa till .bz2ag to some file.img.bz2x1. And .bz2ag till .bz2av to some file.bz2x2, then cat x1 and x2?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> wk: there is a pulseaudio equalizer (3rd party app)
[10:39] <wk> ActionParsnip: This happens with any equalizer I use, I tried 2 different mediaplayers.
[10:40] <theadmin> orated: I think so, this should work fine if I understood what you want correctly: cat file.img.bz2a{a..g} > file.img.bz2x1
[10:40] <amier> Hello everybody, I'm newbie and I'm trying., :D
[10:41] <orated> theadmin: and then cat file.img.bz2{g..v}. And lastly, cat file.img.bz2x1 file.img.bz2x2 > file.img.bz2?
[10:41] <theadmin> orated: Maybe, or maybe not, actually
[10:41] <theadmin> orated: Try it... Might work. I don't have a machine to test on.
[10:41] <theadmin> orated: If not, do a for loop
[10:42] <mtnman80> theadmin: when I try running "sudo fsck /dev/sdb1", I get the following message returned -- "sudo: can't open /var/lib/sudo/[my system alias]/0: read-only file system"
[10:42] <theadmin> mtnman80: Why is your root filesystem mounted read-only, then?
[10:42] <oCean> Hello amier, you're welcome to just describe your issue / ask your question here in the channel. Try to keep your post in a single line
[10:42] <orated> theadmin: for loop?
[10:42] <mtnman80> theadmin: no ... /dev/sdb1 refers to the USB drive you told me to fsck ...
[10:43] <mtnman80> theadmin: are you talking about the root filesystem of the thumb drive?
[10:43] <theadmin> orated: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-loop-over-file/
[10:44] <theadmin> mtnman80: No, I'm talking about your OS's root filesystem.
[10:44] <mtnman80> theadmin: if so, I don't know.  can we change that?  it's weird though, because I can copy and paste stuff to it just fine ...  my OS's root filesystem is not read only ....
[10:45] <mtnman80> I was just performing fsck on the USB thumb drive just now ....
[10:45] <theadmin> mtnman80: Okay, weird.
[10:45] <theadmin> mtnman80: Is your /var located on some other drive?
[10:45] <hellofoo> what is ubuntu 1 ?
[10:46] <justanotherlame> guys if i have a terminal command that i want to be executed when my computer boots what should i do? just to write it in a text file, make it executable and put it in /etc/init ?
[10:46] <auronandace> !one | hellofoo
[10:46] <mtnman80> theadmin: yeah ... that would be on the hard drive ... right?
[10:46] <jrib> justanotherlame: what terminal command?
[10:46] <theadmin> hellofoo: Ubuntu One is a cheap dropbox ripoff.
[10:46] <justanotherlame> jrib for starting my vnc session
[10:46] <hellofoo> was gonna ask that :D
[10:46] <jrib> justanotherlame: what terminal command?
[10:47] <theadmin> mtnman80: Meh, sorry, I'm out of ideas...
[10:47] <hellofoo> 11.10 released ?
[10:47] <theadmin> hellofoo: Not yet
[10:47] <justanotherlame> jrib vncserver :1 -geometry 800x600 -depth 24
[10:47] <mtnman80> theadmin: can I somehow run a command to change the permissions on the thumb drive from read-only to read-write?
[10:47] <theadmin> hellofoo: Will be this month, not sure when, ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:47] <hellofoo> i went to ubuntu.com and thought i would have some 11.10 info but i found ubuntu 1 to be there
[10:47] <theadmin> mtnman80: That's got nothing to do with your thumb drive
[10:47] <hellofoo> theadmin: ok, thanks
[10:48] <orated> theadmin: ok, thanks
[10:48] <hellofoo> 13th oct, ok
[10:49] <mtnman80> "/var/lib/sudo/[my system alias]/0"is referring to a file on my hard drive, then?
[10:49] <jrib> justanotherlame: that needs to be started as your user or root?
[10:49] <justanotherlame> jrib as root
[10:50] <mtnman80> theadmin: "/var/lib/sudo/[my system alias]/0" is referring to a file on my hard drive, then?
[10:51] <theadmin> mtnman80: Yeah.
[10:51] <jrib> justanotherlame: either write an upstart script or add it to /etc/rc.local then
[10:51] <jrib> justanotherlame: what package are you using for vncserver?
[10:52] <mtnman80> theadmin: if we went as "root", would the computer be able to open that file then?
[10:52] <justanotherlame> jrib tightvnc
[10:52] <theadmin> mtnman80: sudo is what gives you root permissions... Okay, stop asking, I have no idea what you have messed up and where.
[10:53] <justanotherlame> jrib i found in google an article about how to do it :) thanks tho
[10:54] <theadmin> mtnman80: Well, or ask someone else. I'm out of ideas
[10:55] <mtnman80> theadmin: what would be the best boot order to have setup in BIOS?  I've already got the hard drive set as primary, though.  Perhaps that is where the problem still lies?  We've isolated that it's not a hardware issue.  But we cannot perform a disk check on the USB drive ...
[10:56] <histo> mtnman80: the permissions on the thumb drive are set at mount
[10:56] <theadmin> mtnman80: It's something with your /var, and I have no idea what.
[10:56] <auronandace> mtnman80: perhaps you should state the entirety of your problem (the reason you came to the channel in the first place)
[10:56] <histo> mtnman80: i'm trying to read through scroll back to see if I can lend a hand hold up
[10:57] <histo> mtnman80: what auronandace said would help
[10:57] <Herbert426> Mal einen schönen guten Tag alle
[10:57] <mtnman80> theadmin: can you change the read-only status of that "/var ..." to something that will allow the fsck to run?
[10:57] <mtnman80> theadmin: or not?
[10:57] <theadmin> mtnman80: I have no idea where the problem is, and have no idea how to diagnose it, either, I'm not Torvalds
[10:58] <Herbert426> <<<< brauchte mal ein bissel anfänger hilfe
[10:58] <LjL> !de | herb__
[10:58] <llutz> !de | Herbert426
[10:58] <theadmin> Herbert426: Deutscher Support in #ubuntu-de bitte. Danke schoen.
[10:58] <Herbert426> möchte gerne umsteigen habe aber von linux null ahnung :-( af was sollte ich dort achten vieleicht hat ja jemand ein tip
[10:58] <mtnman80> theadmin: ok.  thank you so much for trying, though.  I appreciate all your efforts :)  "histo" might be able to help ...
[10:58] <llutz> Herbert426: Deutscher Support in #ubuntu-de bitte. Danke schoen.
[10:58] <mtnman80> histo: thank you for taking a stab at it ...
[10:59] <Herbert426> ohhh sorry
[10:59] <mtnman80> histo: let me basically state the nature of the problem ...
[10:59] <theadmin> Herbert426: Ubuntu *is* a good starting point
[10:59] <histo> mtnman80: yes pls
[10:59] <theadmin> Oh, (s)he left
[11:00] <mtnman80> histo:  I used this crazy USB drive once today earlier in the evening.  I did not properly do "safely remove" before shutting down the system.  I then physically removed the USB drive after the system shut down without it "safely removed" via the OS.  "theadmin" said this should not have been the problem, as they are automatically unmounted upon shut down anyway ...
[11:02] <auronandace> mtnman80: she is right, it would have unmounted on shutdown
[11:05] <mtnman80> histo: well ... then when I get home ... I start getting these warning messages on the black screen after the initial IBM startup / splash screen -- "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable; PXE-M0F: Exiting Broadcom PXE ROM; Operating system not found"
[11:06] <llutz> mtnman80: setup your machine NOT to boot using PXE
[11:06] <theadmin> mtnman80: PXE? Disable that in your BIOS...
[11:06] <theadmin> mtnman80: Unless you *do* want the network boot capability
[11:06] <mtnman80> histo: something like this has not happened in a while when using my Linux system ... and so it seems to have something to do with the use of this USB drive ...
[11:07] <mtnman80> theadmin:  what does the "network boot" capability allow you to do?  And where would I disable PXE in the BIOS?
[11:07] <theadmin> mtnman80: I have no idea what your BIOS is like.
[11:07] <theadmin> mtnman80: And network boot allows you to boot, well, from network
[11:08] <mtnman80> theadmin: so regarding the network connection ... this whole thing could have something to do with the fact that I was hard-wired for Internet use ... until using wireless again tonight?  Or not?
[11:09] <auronandace> mtnman80: you are trying to boot from pxe, if you want to boot from your harddrive disable pxe
[11:09] <theadmin> mtnman80: Maybe, maybe not, just disable it
[11:10] <mtnman80> theadmin: ok.  you are all right.  that is probably the main issue.  I just don't understand how the system reverted to that setting ... but anyway ... let me work on it.  I'll let you know if I can find this setting in the BIOS ...
[11:11] <mtnman80> theadmin: I need to quickly double-check my backed up files on the USB drives with the system contents ... so that if this thing doesn't boot up again ... at least I have my stuff.  Then I can work with the BIOS again here ...
[11:12] <orated> What is the difference between 7zip and 7z? Which one to use for highest compression?
[11:13] <orated> p7zip*
[11:13] <mtnman80> theadmin: never mind ... it won't come back from hibernation mode ... so I had to hard start anyway ...
[11:14] <TheLastProject> orated, .7z is the file format and p7zip is a command line Linux version of the popular 7zip program for Windows.
[11:18] <orated> TheLastProject: I got 200GB tib file which I which to compress down to some 100GB or probably even less than that. Can you guide me on that?
[11:18] <TheLastProject> Ouch...
[11:19] <TheLastProject> Errr..., well, I myself use PeaZip, choose 7z as compression format and use Extreme compression, but I'm not sure if you would make that, it would probably still be way large =/
[11:19] <theadmin> orated: Maybe just splitting the file into several ones will do? Sometimes it would, so that's why I ask
[11:19] <orated> TheLastProject: i see -mx=9 flag in man for 7z
[11:19] <mao> ubuntu无法下载bt资源了
[11:20] <orated> theadmin: I wish I had space for splitting
[11:20] <theadmin> !cn | mao
[11:20] <TheLastProject> Sorry, I haven't use p7zip myself so I don't know anything about the flags =/
[11:20] <theadmin> orated: 50% compression still sounds a bit too good
[11:21] <seemawn> hi
[11:21] <seemawn> is ubuntu one worth to trust in?>
[11:21] <seemawn> i mean is this encrypted or something?
[11:21] <rdz> hi all. In earlier linux days one was able to do: 'cat somefile > /dev/dsp' . how can something like this be accomplished in ubuntu 11.04?
[11:22] <Promille> seemawn: specify. what is encrypted?
[11:22] <theadmin> rdz: padsp cat somefile > /dev/dsp
[11:22] <rdz> theadmin, aah.. many thanks
[11:23] <soreau> theadmin: Does it work like that?
[11:23] <llutz> seemawn: would you generally trust some international companies storing your data somewhere out there?
[11:23] <theadmin> soreau: I think it should.
[11:23] <soreau> theadmin: padsp ls /dev/dsp gives no such file/dir
[11:23] <theadmin> soreau: Oh, I see.
[11:23] <theadmin> Sorry, rdz, my bad.
[11:25] <soreau> theadmin: I don't know what voodoo padsp uses but it's not very straightforward ;)
[11:25] <rdz> soreau, so there isn't any straigh forward way as it used to be with the real OSS?
[11:26] <soreau> rdz: Not afaik
[11:26] <marina> hi wo gehts zum deutschen raum
[11:26] <theadmin> marina: #ubuntu-de
[11:27] <marina> danke
[11:27] <theadmin> marina: Bitte.
[11:30] <raven> gpodder 2.14 - how to disable single click menu on episodes?
[11:30] <D_Russ> can anyone help me with compiz?
[11:31] <D_Russ> trying to figure out what settings cn be unchecked to imporve performance
[11:31] <seemawn> Promille: is there any possibility to see my data when he has not the password?
[11:31] <seemawn> eg anyone from the developers or sth
[11:31] <soreau> D_Russ: What is performing poorly?
[11:32] <hellofoo> just trying to mess with and learn xorg, gdm stuffs. so i hit ctrl + alt + f2 and then sudo service start gdm , and that says "Job is already running: gdm" - but i dont understand where? what should be the expected result?
[11:32] <theadmin> hellofoo: It's already running at tty7, I suppose, as usual.
[11:32] <soreau> hellofoo: try restart
[11:33] <soreau> instead of start
[11:33] <hellofoo> yeh at tty7
[11:33] <D_Russ> its not performing poorly but there are times when my descktop changes. if i mess with screenlets too often my theme changes. on 11.04 soreau
[11:33] <soreau> hellofoo: Or what are you trying to do ultimately?
[11:33] <hellofoo> soreau: umm ,that would restart the tty7 one ?
[11:33] <soreau> hellofoo: yes
[11:33] <hellofoo> soreau: well, nothing but just learn things.
[11:33] <hellofoo> so how to i start one at tty8 ?
[11:33] <hellofoo> tty8 is blank screen
[11:34] <hellofoo> where you cant type anything
[11:34] <D_Russ> i am sure that i have a lot of things on compiz checked off that i will never use and or might be causing some conflicts with other programs
[11:34] <soreau> hellofoo: start only starts a service if it's not running. Restart stops then restarts it and stop stops it
[11:34] <hellofoo> ok
[11:34] <soreau> hellofoo: restart should work if it's running or not
[11:35] <hellofoo> its running on tty7
[11:35] <hellofoo> can i run another one on tty8 ?
[11:35] <hellofoo> i am a newbie trying to learn :)
[11:35] <soreau> D_Russ: I don't see how screenlets changing your theme has anything to do with performance
[11:36] <soreau> hellofoo: You can run multiple X sessions, yes but I'm not sure about gdm..
[11:36] <D_Russ> well l ets forget the whole performance thing
[11:36] <hellofoo> soreau: how do i run multiple X sessions ?
[11:36] <D_Russ> i am trying to eliminate all options on compiz that i dont need active
[11:36] <D_Russ> to minimize possible conflicts with other applications
[11:37] <auronandace> !ccsm | D_Russ
[11:37] <soreau> hellofoo: For example, you can start another X session on tty8 with DISPLAY :1.0 using this command: /usr/bin/X :1.0 -br -audit 0 -nolisten tcp vt8
[11:37] <hellofoo> btw, i did sudo service kdm start and it started it, how can i access/use it ?
[11:37] <hellofoo> ctrl alt f8 is still blank
[11:37] <D_Russ> auronandace, i have ccsm open just not sure which settings are vital
[11:37] <soreau> D_Russ: compiz plugins shouldn't conflict with other apps..
[11:38] <D_Russ> your right it shouldnt
[11:38] <soreau> D_Russ: It's a compositing window manager that manages windows while providing effects
[11:38] <lackvoid> Whats the default hard drive spin down time in Ubuntu?
[11:39] <soreau> D_Russ: The 'vital' ones are probably Window Decoration, Move Window, Resize Window, Place Window and maybe a Switcher.. also Opengl and Composite
[11:39] <mtnman80> theadmin: I'm back.  So I found out how to disable the PXE.  I don't get those messages anymore upon start up on the black screen.  I still get the "Operating System not found" ... and it goes no further than that for startup ...
[11:39] <mtnman80> theadmin: so maybe the hard drive is shot ...
[11:39] <theadmin> mtnman80: I'd guess so...
[11:39] <auronandace> mtnman80: and what is the boot order in the bios?
[11:40] <hellofoo> soreau: btw, i did sudo service kdm start and it started it, how can i access/use it ? ctrl alt f8 is still empty blank screen where i can type nothjing
[11:40] <D_Russ> but i see strange things heappening on my PC sometimes. like for instance sometimes i can close firefox and still see images of it on my desktops background black section
[11:40] <soreau> hellofoo: I'm not familiar with kde or kdm
[11:40] <BlackBishop> anyone knows a server ( and client for linux ) that could allow me to share a soundcard on the server ?
[11:40] <mtnman80> auronandace: let me tell you exactly ... just a sec ...
[11:40] <hellofoo> theadmin: do you know ?
[11:40] <auronandace> D_Russ: do you use flash?
[11:40] <DustyMonk> BlackBishop: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:40] <D_Russ> yes
[11:41] <theadmin> hellofoo: It's ctrl+alt+f7
[11:41] <theadmin> hellofoo: not f8
[11:41] <jrib> BlackBishop: pulseaudio is such a thing
[11:41] <D_Russ> i ahve a flash plugin for firefox
[11:41] <soreau> BlackBinary: Try asking in ##linux
[11:41] <hellofoo> theadmin: i.e. still my gnome sessions
[11:41] <auronandace> D_Russ: that is likely a bug in flash, do you use nvidia too?
[11:41] <ikonia> mtnman80: I've told you the problem approx 40 minutes ago
[11:41] <soreau> BlackBinary: but I think pulseaudio can do it, try there too #pulseaudio
[11:41] <D_Russ> yes
[11:41] <hellofoo> kdm should run a kde session i guess
[11:41] <ikonia> mtnman80: why are you still refusing to accept this
[11:41] <theadmin> hellofoo: If you started KDM without stopping GDM some mess may occur
[11:41] <D_Russ> ihave an nvidia graphics card
[11:41] <auronandace> D_Russ: i had the same problem ages ago
[11:42] <BlackBishop> jrib: interesting, didn't even think about it
[11:42] <D_Russ> no solutions?
[11:42] <hellofoo> theadmin: hmm, i just wanted to try out things
[11:42] <auronandace> D_Russ: it solved itself after flash and nvidia updated, not sure if it was flash or nvidia but it wasn't compiz
[11:42] <D_Russ> i see
[11:42] <mtnman80> ikonia: I have a feeling something just still messed up with the BIOS ... because it has still booted successfully a couple of times ...
[11:43] <hellofoo> theadmin: so anyway to see the started KDM somewhere ? or shall i just kill the process :|
[11:43] <D_Russ> that sucks
[11:43] <ikonia> mtnman80: carry on wasting your time then. Good luck
[11:43] <bhush1089> Hello friends How do i start ubuntu after first installation On first reboot I got blank screen What am i doing wrong pls tell me....??
[11:43] <D_Russ> loging out and back in usually cures it
[11:44] <D_Russ> for a bit anyway
[11:44] <auronandace> ikonia: i'm glad it isn't just me, i thought he was not listening
[11:44] <soreau> bhush1089: Possible graphics driver issue.. did the live session work ok?
[11:44] <mtnman80> ikonia: I'm almost at the point of saying "forget it" and "give it the death sentence" ...
[11:44] <bhush1089> no... :(
[11:44] <soreau> bhush1089: How did you install it?
[11:45] <bhush1089> From CD..!
[11:45] <soreau> bhush1089: What graphics card do you have?
[11:45] <bhush1089> ATI
[11:45] <soreau> bhush1089: I'm not really understanding how you installed it from CD if it didn't work ok..
[11:46] <bhush1089> Installation goes OK without no errors but I am getting blank screen on first boot
[11:46] <soreau> bhush1089: Does it work if you boot with nomodeset?
[11:46] <GirlyGirl> bhush1089: Try booting in recovery mode
[11:47] <mtnman80> auronandace: here is the current boot priority order -- "IDE HDD0, IDE HDD1, ATAPI CDO: ..., Legacy Floppy Drives, USB FDD, -USB HDD, USB CD:, PCI LAN" ... in that order ...
[11:47] <bhush1089> GirlyGirl : Not working
[11:47] <bhush1089> :(
[11:47] <soreau> ! nomodeset | bhush1089
[11:47] <auronandace> mtnman80: and what are you trying to boot?
[11:47] <theadmin> Hey GirlyGirl :)
[11:47] <bhush1089> Tried but not working...!!!
[11:48] <soreau> bhush1089: nomodeset didn't work either?
[11:48] <mtnman80> auronandace: everything thing else has been reverted back to default except that PXE setting.  I am trying to boot from the hard drive ...
[11:48] <bhush1089> no
[11:48] <soreau> bhush1089: Did you check the md5sum of the image you downloaded and burned to disk?
[11:48] <auronandace> mtnman80: and you have a harddrive in there yes?
[11:48] <bhush1089> yes
[11:48] <mtnman80> yes
[11:48] <mtnman80> auronandace: yes
[11:49] <auronandace> mtnman80: what is on the harddrive?
[11:49] <soreau> bhush1089: recovery mode is not the same as booting with nomodeset..
[11:49] <llutz> mtnman80: go get a live-cd with software for hdd-checks, perform some checks on your hdds from it before you keep wasting your (and others) time here
[11:49] <bhush1089> I also tried recovery mode but only thing i get is blank screen
[11:49] <soreau> bhush1089: What model card is it?
[11:50] <mtnman80> auronandace: I think I've already backed up all the important stuff.  Pictures, documents, etc ...
[11:50] <auronandace> mtnman80: is there an operating system (windows or ubuntu) on the harddrive?
[11:51] <mtnman80> llutz: will the 9.10 live CD work for this?
[11:51] <bhush1089> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
[11:51] <mtnman80> auronandace: yes, 11.04 is on the hard drive
[11:51] <BlackBishop> any way I can control de output sound .. and sound levels from the cli ( no X11/Xorg )
[11:51] <llutz> mtnman80: nope, there are cd holding special software made by HDD-manufacturerers for that
[11:51] <BlackBishop> ?
[11:52] <theadmin> BlackBishop: Try "alsamixer"
[11:52] <auronandace> mtnman80: what llutz suggests is a good idea
[11:52] <BlackBishop> thanks :)
[11:52] <mtnman80> llutz: is that something you can find online and burn to a CD ... or do you have to go buy it?  fsck run from the 9.10 live CD won't do it?
[11:52] <bhush1089> soreau : ???
[11:53] <soreau> bhush1089: Try 11.10 when it's released
[11:53] <auronandace> mtnman80: fsck just checks filesystems, you need to check the harddrive itself
[11:53] <soreau> bhush1089: Make sure to burn on lowest speed and use the built-in cd checker utility
[11:53] <bhush1089> :D LOLz Ubuntu is my life...!!! Pls Help me...!!!
[11:54] <Dryanta> wut
[11:54] <llutz> mtnman80: http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/    you need to check the harddrives, not the filesystem
[11:54] <xgt001> bhush1089, please state your problem
[11:54] <mtnman80> auronandace: I see.
[11:54] <djalone> server irc.penguinfriends.org
[11:54] <nicofs> I need help to get a mobile broadband dongle to work... it's recognized, the connection is set up - but all that happens is "Disconnected"...
[11:55] <bhush1089> When ever i try to boot with ubuntu...!!! A splash screen is come and then a blank screen,,, Instead of login screen...!!!
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device, use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[11:55] <soreau> bhush1089: I already told you several things to try
[11:56] <soreau> bhush1089: It's not likely it would still boot into a black screen if the cd and image were ok and you used nomodeset
[11:56] <soreau> In fact, you shouldn't even need nomodeset
[11:56] <xgt001> nicofs, happened to me quite a few times, reinsert the modem and try again... or restart and see what happens.. but recent updates fixed that for me
[11:56] <kamil> hello
[11:56] <soreau> But if the cd didn't work ok, I wouldn't use that to install it
[11:57] <dee-dee> hi guys.
[11:57] <nicofs> xgt001, i just discovered - it's a huawei k3770 - and that apparently has issues
[11:57] <bhush1089> CD is working ok bcz the problem is with graphics card but I dont knw how to solve it...!!!
[11:58] <xgt001>  i need noiseless video playback like in windows, but the problem is my amd card offloads the load to itself from the cpu resulting in lots of noise and heat...i dont think gpu intervention is needed for my cpu core i3 370 m...any ideas?
[11:58] <wk> whenever I use any equalizer to increase the bass output, it gets really distorted, anyone know why? works fine in windows
[11:58] <mtnman80> llutz: which hard disk diagnostic tool would you choose in that list for download, then?
[11:58] <mtnman80> llutz: on the webpage?
[11:58] <xgt001> nicofs, sorry :( mine was some zte model... and i dono if there is any way to connect via cli
[11:59] <llutz> mtnman80: what brand is your hdd?
[11:59] <bhush1089> should i need to remove quite splash or not...!!!???
[11:59] <dee-dee> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 on a dell mini 9. It's great! much more responsive and better looking than wondows. I bought it second hand and i think it's cute :) I'm wondering what it'll be like with Compiz enabled. Can anyone tell me what I need to do?
[11:59] <nicofs> xgt001, the biggest issue is, that it's not my dongle and not my pc and that i'm not in front of it...
[12:00] <xgt001> dee-dee, are u running unity?
[12:00] <dee-dee> yes
[12:00] <auronandace> dee-dee: if you are using unity then you are already running compiz
[12:00] <bhush1089> xgr001 : Pls help me
[12:00] <auronandace> !ccsm | dee-dee
[12:00] <mtnman80> llutz: not quite sure.  I know it's IDE, but ...  where would I look to find out?
[12:00] <llutz> mtnman80: open the computer, have a look btw you should download/burn/boot the complete ubcd and run that specific tool from it then.
[12:01] <wk> Sorry for that
[12:01] <dee-dee> thanks. I'll try that. :)
[12:01] <wk> I'm having problems with my sound, whenever I increase the bass output in any equalizer the sound becomes very distorted.
[12:01] <soreau> rdz: Ok I just found out there is pacat
[12:02] <soreau> rdz: From the pulseaudio channel: <mkbosmans> soreau, paplay (is the same as pacat), so you can either do paplay soundfile or cat soundfile | pacat
[12:03] <rdz> soreau, thanks a lot
[12:03] <soreau> rdz: He is on right now if you have more questions about it :)
[12:03] <xgt001> please help me to achieve fan-noise free video playback in ubuntu ... i tried mplayer with xv output... i stil get lots of fan noise and heat when i play even a simple avi file!
[12:04] <nelson8874> i need educational programs for a 8 years old kid. specially about the digestive system
[12:05] <rdz> xgt001, what makes you assume that your avi file is simple? try -vo vdpau
[12:06] <rdz> xgt001, and depending on what codec your avi file has, you can shift some decoding workload to your GPU wit hsome codec specific switch
[12:06] <xgt001> rdz, i thought the fan noise was due to gpu getting loaded?
[12:06] <dee-dee> Thanks guys. Its fun!
[12:07] <rdz> xgt001, -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau  for h264 encoded files
[12:07] <mtnman80> llutz: all right ... that pretty sums it up then.  I have the tools I need to open it up and figure it out then.  I have that website bookmarked.  If that software doesn't work so as to somehow get a resolution ... the recovery disks do not work first ... then I will just called this one "cooked" ...
[12:07] <xgt001> rdz, and i tried checking out my gpu load during video playback using aticonfig --odgc it shows 40-50 percent load
[12:07] <rdz> xgt001, more likely it is the cpu fan.. but i don't know realy.. you need to test
[12:07] <rdz> xgt001, oops.. i think the vdpau stuff is only available for nvidia cards..
[12:08] <xgt001> rdz, exactly...amd supports xv using avivo... but even then its pretty noisy
[12:09] <nelson8874> i need educational programs for a 8 years old kid. specially about the digestive system
[12:09] <wk> I'm having problems with my sound, whenever I increase the bass output in any equalizer the sound becomes very distorted.
[12:10] <bootsector> Hi everyone! Anyone here tried to install 11.04 amd64 on a ZOTAC GF-9300 based system?
[12:10] <bootsector> I'm getting a Kernel Panic :(
[12:11] <mtnman80> thanks to all of you that attempted to help me tonight ... and especially for your patience :)
[12:11] <wk> I'm having problems with my sound, whenever I increase the bass output in any equalizer the sound becomes very distorted. anyone got any advice..?
 how do i find out if i have  PRISM card?
[12:13] <sutherland> how do i find out if i have  PRISM card?
[12:15] <Chelsea> wk, lower your gain (input volume)
[12:16] <xgt001> bootsector, did u try reinstalling?
[12:16] <xgt001> did u get the same panic again?
[12:16] <fball> I just started libvirt, and it seems like that qemu/libvirtd need to be started as root. I just read about AppAmor. I did nothing but I saw it is 'activated' in the background (I did nothing at all).
[12:17] <fball>  Do I have to make some thoughts about the way it's running on my ubuntu server (regards to security)?
[12:17] <bootsector> xgt001, yes, I've tried. I'm uploading a picture, if that helps...
[12:17] <bootsector> give me a min
[12:19] <bootsector> xgt001, here's a screenshot of the error: http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j267/bootsector/IMG_20111008_091330.jpg
[12:29] <Amnesia> hi question, is anyone over here known with imsniff?
[12:30] <DustyMonk> !ask| Amnesia
[12:30] <Amnesia> I didnt ask to ask..
[12:30] <theadmin> Amnesia: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man8/imsniff.8.html
[12:30] <bootsector> Ok, it looks like I've found the reason of my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/162671/comments/68
[12:30] <Amnesia> theadmin: I got an more in depth question..
[12:30] <bootsector> It seems to be affecting 11.04 as well :(
[12:30] <theadmin> Amnesia: Well then, you should just ask it
[12:31] <Amnesia> well when I sniff, I can only sniff incoming messages that go to my host
[12:31] <Amnesia> but not stuff thats sent to others
[12:31] <Amnesia> so say I'm arp poisoning B, and B gets messages sent I don't receive them
[12:31] <Amnesia> I do get the messages sent my B
[12:32] <Amnesia> by*
[12:35] <mtnman80_> llutz: ok.  it's definitely not the hard drive.  I just took the battery out and restarted a few times.  It booted to the login screen each time ... but didn't always successfully login into Ubuntu.  When I put the problematic USB drive back in, then it logged in.  When it did not successfully login, I got input/output errors (I/O) related to "/dev/sda1", which is where that problematic USB drive has been mounted every time ...  So I
[12:35] <D_Russ> does anyone know if there is a setting to allow window opacity to be on by default. when you have multiple windows open and you mouse over a lower window the active window becomes translucent..
[12:36] <mtnman80_> llutz: I'm just going to make sure my important is stuff is backed up, though ...
[12:36] <mtnman80_> llutz: I restarted after putting the battery in after a few seconds, of course ...
[12:37] <mtnman80_> llutz: something is imply way screwed up with how the system is reading that USB port.  that is what it is ...
[12:38] <andantino> anyone know a fix for a shaky touchpad pointer?
[12:38] <xgt001> what is xvba-va-driver package? how does it help?
[12:38] <auronandace> mtnman80_: did you run the ubcd?
[12:38] <sutherland> how do i find out if i have  PRISM card or what ever kind of card?
[12:38] <xgt001> andantino, try this... sudo apt-get install gpointing-device-settings
[12:38] <xgt001> andantino, and try to configure ur touchpad from there
[12:38] <th0r> andantino: you might check synclient
[12:39] <andantino> thanks
[12:39] <eypal> anybody here working for Canonical?
[12:40] <theadmin> eypal: They don't reveal their identities, don't try your luck and contact em via canonical.com
[12:40] <mtnman80_> auronandace: I haven't yet.  I have to open up the computer to get a gander at what the brand of the HD is to know which software to choose.  Then I have to put it on the appropriate media to run it.  I wouldn't even be able to get all the way logged into the system ... if the HD is that bad.  The input output errors were referenced for the USB drive/port ... not the hard drive ...
[12:40] <Abhijit> eypal, why you want that?
[12:41] <auronandace> mtnman80_: you should run it to be sure
[12:41] <mtnman80_> auronandace: but I will still run the software ... just make sure the HD is still good in all of its sectors.  doesn't hurt ...
[12:41] <soreau> ! anybody | eypal
[12:42] <mtnman80_> auronandace: but I really don't think that is where the problem lies ... because I've had similar problems with this startup thing and this particular USB drive ... before.  It involved manually edited fstab via command line on the black screen before reaching login ... last time.  And it worked.  So I might have to do that again ...
[12:43] <bootsector> Alright, I disconnected the VT6656 wifi adapter and now the KP is gone. Man, I really thought this issue had been fixed by know... :(
[12:43] <auronandace> mtnman80_: i thought you were trying to boot the harddrive, what does this have to do with the usb?
[12:44] <eypal> my matter regarding Canonical is a kind of business thing at their website. I guess nobody except people from Canonical could help me with this one.
[12:44] <theadmin> eypal: Which is why you should use the contact thingy at their website.
[12:44] <theadmin> eypal: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[12:45] <mtnman80_> auronandace: the USB drive is the instigator of the problem with booting.  for some reason, the system seems to be stuck (hanging) on reading that USB port ... even though it still boots off the hard drive ...
[12:45] <mtnman80_> auronandace: it seems like it wants to still read it as an external device or something ...
[12:45] <auronandace> mtnman80_: why do you have the usb stick plugged in during boot if you are trying to boot from the harddrive?
[12:46] <eypal> Yes.. well.. I actually have tried contacting them.. I expected that I will have to wait for some weeks they replying back but it seems to be so that months are passing by and no reply..
[12:47] <mtnman80_> auronandace: I plugged it back during boot up this time when I restarted ... because I knew that if I replaced it where it originally was ... the system would recognize it's presenece again ... and not give me input output errors while still booting from the hard drive.  I know it sounds weird ... but it's true ...
[12:47] <auronandace> mtnman80_: you haven't answered my question.. why is it plugged in at all during boot?
[12:48] <barry_> I hate being a noob!!!  But I am moving to linux.  Kubuntu 11.04 is awesome.  I cannot get flash to run in Firefox...any thoughts??
[12:48] <Abhijit> eypal, i think there is #canonical channel
[12:48] <Abhijit> eypal, that seems dead
[12:48] <theadmin> barry_: Install the FlashAid plugin
[12:48] <no||shutdown> ah man
[12:48] <no||shutdown> hi all
[12:48] <theadmin> barry_: addon*
[12:48] <theadmin> barry_: Extension... Whatever Firefox calls them
[12:49] <Abhijit> eypal, no idea. try to contact them using their website contact page
[12:49] <soreau> ! flash | barry_
[12:49] <barry_> I think I already tried that, but I am checking now..
[12:49] <no||shutdown> those settings
[12:50] <soreau> barry_: If you haven't already, install flashplugin-nonfree and restart firefox
[12:50] <no||shutdown> can someone give me a hand with Kwin?
[12:50] <no||shutdown> its buggy here and I'd like to properly configure and save it settings without errors
[12:50] <arch_adam> hi all im trying to install ubuntu on a dell poweredge 2650 server , im having problems, as soon as i click install it restarts the server
[12:51] <soreau> no||shutdown: just use compiz :P
[12:51] <GirlyGirl> no||shutdown: Yes but may #kubuntu might be better
[12:51] <GirlyGirl> soreau: Bad idea
[12:51] <no||shutdown> TbH, i don't care about it
[12:51] <soreau> GirlyGirl: Excuse me?
[12:51] <no||shutdown> i'd just like my dual monitor set up to keep its resolution settings
[12:51] <no||shutdown> and not fail or change its settings after reboot
[12:52] <soreau> arch_adam: Maybe try #ubuntu-server? or are you trying to install the desktop edition on a server?
[12:52] <GirlyGirl> soreau: Using compiz on kde is not a good idea
[12:52] <no||shutdown> soreau - will look up compiz
[12:52] <mtnman80_> auronandace: maybe it has nothing to do with it ... but all I know is that I am successfully logged in again ... with no input output errors being given any point of the process.  Actually, now that I think of it ... these I/O errors were referring to /dev/sda1 ... which is the hard drive ... and referring to certain sectors of them.  Another time ... it tells me it can't read superblocks or something ...
[12:52] <arch_adam> soreau, server
[12:52] <soreau> GirlyGirl: Please, do explain why exactly.
[12:52] <no||shutdown> GirlyGirl - kubuntu then?
[12:52] <eypal> support for things related to selling Ubuntu based computers seem to be hard to get :).
[12:52] <no||shutdown> don't confuse me further :S
[12:52] <no||shutdown> :)
[12:53] <soreau> no||shutdown: kde support will tell you compiz is not supported on kde but the fact of the matter is, it works fine in kde
[12:53] <mtnman80_> auronandace: but for now I am logged in.  So I'm not going to touch anything or do anything drastic ... backup my stuff ... and hope that I can still solve the problem ...
[12:53] <auronandace> mtnman80_: if you want help you will need to follow instructions and answer the questions that are asked of you; if you don't it makes it significantly harder to help you
[12:53] <GirlyGirl> soreau: It does not integrate well on KDE4 and hinders some integration .. that is just how it is
[12:53] <no||shutdown> soreau - i'd prefer not to make changes to my installation, simply get to the bottom of the congfig issues i have with Kwin
[12:54] <soreau> GirlyGirl: Elaborate on what integration you're referring to, specifically
[12:54] <no||shutdown> simple commands like RandR will do the job
[12:54] <mtnman80_> auronandace: to answer your question directly, I thought having the USB plugged in would prevent any errors or warning messages from holding up the startup process ....
[12:54] <GirlyGirl> soreau: We are not doing a kwin vs compiz
[12:54] <no||shutdown> i just need to know how to save those config settings so i don't have to redo this shizz everytime i log
[12:54] <auronandace> mtnman80_: why would you think that?
[12:55] <GirlyGirl> no||shutdown: Users in #kubuntu are more experienced with kde than in here
[12:55] <soreau> GirlyGirl: You are the one that initially said running compiz on kde is a <quote>Bad Idea[TM]</quote>.
[12:55] <soreau> GirlyGirl: I want to know why you think that exactly
[12:55] <auronandace> mtnman80_: it would just be recognised as another device to be mounted
[12:55] <GirlyGirl> soreau: So if someone comes here saying unity crashed I should tell them use kde?
[12:55] <no||shutdown> GirlyGirl - i'll ask around there :)
[12:55] <auronandace> mtnman80_: it doesn't affect the boot process
[12:55] <jawad> hay
[12:56] <soreau> GirlyGirl: No, I want to know why you think running compiz on kde is a bad idea exactly
[12:56] <mtnman80_> auronandace: because it seemed to have triggered the problem in the first place, as the last time I had problems with startup -- it was directly related to the use of it.  I do believe what you are saying though ...
[12:56] <jawad> hay
[12:56] <theadmin> soreau: Because Compiz is intended to be used with GNOME
[12:56] <theadmin> soreau: Well, yes, it runs just fine on KDE, indeed
[12:56] <soreau> theadmin: Oh quite to the contrary, compiz does not even need a DE to run
[12:56] <jawad> can someone help me ? i got weird problem
[12:56] <theadmin> soreau: I know about Compiz Standalone, yeah, weird thing
[12:56] <soreau> theadmin: Compiz only requires an X session with graphics drivers supporting TFP
[12:56] <GirlyGirl> soreau: If you update kde there is a chance you will have problems with new kde version + old compiz ... besides only kwin can correctly handle desktop effects on plasma properly
[12:57] <soreau> theadmin: It can run on lxde, kde, xfce, gnome or standalone
[12:57] <mtnman80_> auronandace: but when I removed the battery, waited a few seconds, and then put it back in and started up (more than once) ... it went all the way to login and allowed me to successfully login.  No warning messages at all ...
[12:57] <jawad> i uninstall ubunto and then install it , then all my files and permetion for files changed , how can i get it back , even that i want to run some files and put the tick as excutable file , it instantly unchik it
[12:57] <soreau> Compiz cares not what DE is running
[12:57] <jawad> i uninstall wine " instead of ubuntu"
[12:57] <soreau> or, if none is running at all
[12:57] <auronandace> mtnman80_: and what does that have to do with the usb stick being plugged in at boot?
[12:58] <theadmin> soreau: Tried Compiz with XFCE, ended up yucky
[12:58] <hramrach> Hello
[12:58] <hramrach> where do I report mirror issues?
[12:58] <soreau> theadmin: That's because you did it wrong.
[12:58] <soreau> 'Yucky' certainly sounds like pebcak indeed
[12:58] <GirlyGirl> soreau: Things like you press the launch and find the start menu off screen happens as kwin interoperates with plasma ... sure it compiz will do the wm job of placing a window fram but plasma malfunctions
[12:58] <mongy> theadmin: you need emerald when using compiz on xfce, if you want a nice window manager
[12:58] <mtnman80_> auronandace: I dunno.,  It could be an electrical issue of some sort ... affecting both the hard drive and the USB port.  Maybe it's just shorting out or something.  I had a similar issue with the battery when I first acquired the thing in used condition ...
[12:59] <theadmin> mongy: Oh.
[12:59] <auronandace> mtnman80_: sounds like you have some sort of hardware issue...
[12:59] <soreau> GirlyGirl: Why would you run old compiz and new kde? compiz is constantly being updated to keep up with kde protocol
[13:00] <GirlyGirl> soreau: not on the same day so no
[13:00] <mtnman80_> auronandace: I think I would still narrow it down to that ... if even if the hard drive checks out fine (which it still might).  And it seems like conditions are presenting themselves in a manner that could be interpreted as another problem ...  So better backup my stuff and be ready to have to ditch the thing ...
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:01] <auronandace> mtnman80_: that would be the safest thing to do; what system is it? laptop/desktop?
[13:01] <mtnman80_> auronandace: it's an older business model (T43) IBM Thinkpad laptop ...
[13:02] <wifi_problem> how to get wifi to work on N150 atom netbook (Samung)?
[13:02] <auronandace> mtnman80_: it must have taken quite a beating, thinkpads are all I use and they have always been rock solid (all second-hand too)
[13:02] <wifi_problem> rfkill says phy0 wireless is hard blocked, how to unblock it?
[13:03] <wk> I'm having problems with my sound, whenever I increase the bass output in any equalizer the sound becomes very distorted. anyone got any advice..?
[13:03] <mongy> wk: tried pulseaudio-equalizer, a global eq ?
[13:04] <hramrach> wk: tried different speakers? :p
[13:04] <mtnman80_> auronandace: well ... and I did buy this one used, so ... for a pretty good price, actually.  I don't know how "used" it had been.  I bought it mainly because they run Linux really well ...
[13:04] <soreau> wifi_problem: What chip is it listed by 'lspci'?
[13:04] <wk> mongy: ill try
[13:04] <wifi_problem> soreau:   05:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[13:05] <soreau> wifi_problem: Does 'iwconfig' show a wlan0 interface?
[13:05] <wifi_problem> soreau: wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[13:05] <wk> mongy: repo ?
[13:06] <soreau> wifi_problem: Does the laptop have a switch to enable/disable wifi?
[13:06] <wifi_problem> soreau: it has it on key fn+f9. in winblows it works,  in ubuntu it seems do not do anything at all. it does not switch rfkill list output, and noting in dmesg..
[13:06] <mongy> wkhttps://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/webupd8
[13:07] <mongy> wk: https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/webupd8
[13:07] <soreau> wifi_problem: Have you checked your bios settings?
[13:07] <wifi_problem> soreau: nope. But in windows the key works.  You think ther is some default-on/off option in bios
[13:08] <soreau> wifi_problem: Yes, check that first. One user reported that actually turning it off in the bios allowed it to work
[13:08] <Abhijit> hi
[13:08] <Abhijit> can i install unity in lucid?
[13:08] <Abhijit> or gnome3 ?? anyone of them?
[13:08] <wifi_problem> soreau: so the wifi can not be turned on from software alone? from ubuntu?
[13:08] <theadmin> Abhijit: No and no.
[13:08] <soreau> wifi_problem: If it's a bios/hardware issue, then no. Ubuntu can't do anything with it
[13:08] <Abhijit> theadmin, :-( and :'-(
[13:09] <hume> hi... I have a problem with my wifi. in Gnome it connects nicely, but changing to KDE makes it not connect. Same network. Any ideas on what to check?
[13:09] <soreau> Abhijit: Why would you want to?
[13:09] <shuaib> I am trying to start mysqld on ubuntu using sudo mysqld start, but it complaints about not having a mysql user. Any ideas?
[13:09] <Abhijit> soreau, i want gnome3.
[13:09] <wifi_problem>  soreau damn
[13:09] <soreau> hume: #kubuntu or #kde
[13:09] <theadmin> hume: Networkmanager doesn't work in KDE, that's why?
[13:09] <wifi_problem> k I should try in bios then..
[13:09] <theadmin> hume: Well, not the regular nm-applet, anyway
[13:09] <soreau> Abhijit: But why on lucid? Can't you just use a newer version of ubuntu?
[13:10] <Abhijit> soreau, nope. lucid is stable!!!
[13:10] <wifi_problem> soreau:   rmkill saying that it is hard-blocked means it is hardware setting?   can I try anything more to toggle it from software?
[13:10] <soreau> Abhijit: Precisely. That is the same reason why you do not want to use gnome3 or unity.
[13:10] <arch_adam> does anyonre know how to set ubuntu up on a dell poweredge server
[13:10] <soreau> wifi_problem: Check your bios settings first, then we can go from there
[13:10] <Abhijit> soreau, but both of them are stable!
[13:10] <soreau> Abhijit: Many would beg to differ.
[13:11] <Abhijit> soreau, :-D
[13:11] <soreau> Abhijit: However if you want to use either, you need to also use a newer version of ubuntu
[13:11] <hramrach> Abhijit: use oneiric then. It is as stable as gnome3 :p
[13:11] <auronandace> Abhijit: wait till 12.04, that will be lts
[13:12] <hume> theadmin, but it still uses the same drivers, right?
[13:12] <soreau> hramrach: heh
[13:12] <Abhijit> soreau, yeah i want to use them test them etc
[13:12] <soreau> Abhijit: Then get a newer version of ubuntu and get testing
[13:13] <Abhijit> hramrach, :-D yeah i want to use the latest softwares. i tired unity once its so cool
[13:13] <Abhijit> soreau, ok
[13:13] <theadmin> hume: Yeah, but it's not gonna work in KDE. Try wicd, or KNetworkManager.
[13:13] <Abhijit> auronandace, no patience!
[13:13] <mohanr2222> hey guys...
[13:13] <mohanr2222> how can i get gnome style notifications in ubuntu?
[13:13] <mohanr2222> i mean.. what is the package's name (the specific one)
[13:13] <folivora> gnome.style ?
[13:14] <aarossig> hello everyone, does anyone know of a utility that pops up an onscreen keyboard automatically when focus is placed on a textbox?
[13:14] <soreau> hume: I have the habit of disabling all built-in network management applications and using scripts to configure the network on boot up
[13:14] <hramrach> Abhijit: with some effort you can install two different versions of Ubuntu on the same machine
[13:14] <Abhijit> hramrach, yep. doing that only
[13:14] <aarossig> florence does this, but it presents a small icon to open the keyboard. I would really like something that slides up from the bottom similar to on android smartphones
[13:14] <mohanr2222> folivora: we get a notification in gnome 3.. right? at the bottom...
[13:14] <soreau> hramrach: Actually, it's not hard at all..
[13:14] <mohanr2222> i wan that in ubuntu..
[13:14] <jawad> ppl is 5670 is old for unity 3d ?
[13:15] <Suhel> Hello
[13:15] <hramrach> soreau: hard is realtive .. it does not happen automagically on inserting a CD
[13:15] <Suhel> Sorry was testing the Irc client
[13:15] <soreau> hramrach: That is true..
[13:16] <soreau> Suhel: It doesn't work
[13:16] <soreau> Suhel: Take it back to wherever you downloaded it from for a full refund
[13:16] <Suhel> I didn't purchase it..  why has your nick turned green
[13:17] <soreau> what color is it now?
[13:17] <Suhel> It's white now
[13:17] <soreau> Suhel: what about now?
[13:17] <Suhel> Lol
[13:17] <theadmin> Suhel: That's because your name was mentioned in the message.
[13:17] <Suhel> Oh sorry
[13:17] <soreau> ! who | Suhel
[13:18] <soreau> Suhel: Most irc clients highlight a message if their nick is used
[13:18] <Suhel> I'm using my mobiledevice and this is my first time I'm using Irc
[13:18] <soreau> I can't hear you
[13:18] <Suhel> !tab soreau like this?
[13:19] <soreau> Suhel: Sort of.. try it like this
[13:19] <soreau> ! tab | Suhel
[13:20] <Suhel> !soreau I'm using my mobile there is no tab key
[13:20] <soreau> Suhel: Well just type it like I'm typing yours
[13:20] <soreau> Suhel: the exclamation mark at the beginning is to invoke the bot to state a factoid
[13:20] <Suhel> ubottu: testing :-(
[13:21] <soreau> Suhel: That is, ubottu is a bot.. as it's nick suggests
[13:21] <soreau> ! ubottu
[13:21] <Suhel> Soreau: like this way?
[13:21] <soreau> Suhel: yes, that's great
[13:23] <Suhel> Soreau: thanks for the help, are we the only one's here? I was thinking of getting some help on ocelot
[13:23] <mohanr2222> i can't get notifications from bottom, like in gnome-3, on a non-gnome-3 OS? (ubuntu)?
[13:23] <soreau> Suhel: No, there are 1498 other nicks here..
[13:23] <soreau> Suhel: 1499
[13:23] <soreau> Suhel: You mean oneiric?
[13:23] <Suhel> Soreau: why am not seeing anyone else messages then?
[13:24] <theadmin> Suhel: Maybe you're not looking
[13:24] <soreau> Suhel: Simple. It's because no one else is talking right now :)
[13:24] <mohanr2222> i just talked?
[13:24] <mohanr2222> or messaged.. :o
[13:24] <soreau> No one. Else.
[13:24] <soreau> ;)
[13:24] <Suhel> Soreau: yes, oneiric hope I spelled it right
[13:25] <soreau> ! 11.10 | Suhel
[13:25] <soreau> Suhel: Use #ubuntu+1 for help until it's officially released
[13:26] <Suhel> Soreau: oh so nice of you thanks for all the help. I've to go now I'm entering a no network zone :-)  thanks again
[13:26] <soreau> Suhel: No problem
[13:26] <Suhel> Soreau: whats the command to quit???  Lol
[13:26] <theadmin> Suhel: /quit
[13:26] <soreau> Suhel: /part
[13:27] <theadmin> soreau: That's to leave the channel
[13:27] <soreau> theadmin: You win ;)
[13:29] <BlueWolf> Hi
[13:31] <sgs2_usr> anyone here using HP EliteBook 8540w please share your experience
[13:32] <sgs2_usr> anyone?
[13:33] <dell> I'm using dell..
[13:33] <soreau> sgs2_usr: You mean running ubuntu on it?
[13:33] <sgs2_usr> hi dell, do you use docking station on your dell?
[13:34] <dell> now,i'm using ubuntu
[13:34] <sgs2_usr> soreau, yes
[13:35] <soreau> sgs2_usr: The most important thing comes down to how well the hardware is supported in Linux. This is largely up to the hardware vendors
[13:35] <aGamingDaddy> Persistent usb ubuntu installation will not start anymore. Help appreciated.
[13:35] <BlueWolf> Could someone assist me, I formatted my Ipod 5th Generation 16GB by right clicking it on the desktop and clicking format - I did it twice. And now for some strange reason it will not mount in Ubuntu or show up in Windows 7. When it is plugged in Ubuntu and Windows it restarts itself every 10 seconds or so. How do I get it to mount so I can reformat it? I have re set it by  holding Center + Play/Pause buttons and it still does nothing. I am not worried a
[13:35] <BlueWolf> bout any stuff on it, I just want it working. Please help?
[13:35] <dell> i  have to using google to translate engllish..
[13:36] <DustyMonk> BlueWolf: if it's on both linux and win, it's an ipod issue
[13:36] <soreau> dell: What is your native language?
[13:36] <sgs2_usr> soreau, i believe HP is well-known product and linux should fully support the hardware
[13:36] <dell> chinese
[13:36] <sgs2_usr> dell: you from china?
[13:36] <dell> yes
[13:37] <soreau> ! cn | dell
[13:37] <VINTERAA> anyone else here has problem installing/running ubuntu on a HP computer?
[13:37] <BlueWolf> DustyMonk: Yes but that issue was started because of me. The Ipod works well. How do I get it to mount?
[13:37] <soreau> sgs2_usr: Then it should work fine ;)
[13:37] <llutz> sgs2_usr: HP is just a name, they grab all the cheap stuff from some other vendors, put it together, glue a "High Price HP" sticker on it. don't expect something to work, check every single part
[13:38] <sgs2_usr> soreau, haha, well, not entirely
[13:38] <sgs2_usr> llutz, you were right...that's why i am facing some problem
[13:38] <sgs2_usr> llutz, I am currently facing the problem with the docking station where it can't switch back to notebook display when undock
[13:39] <sgs2_usr> llutz, any idea how to fix this? im running 11.04
[13:39] <VINTERAA> hey does anyone here have a functioning dual booot ubuntu/win7 ?
[13:39] <soreau> sgs2_usr: So you want to scrutinize the system specs. Try ##hardware for hardware specific support
[13:39] <sgs2_usr> soreau, okay, many thanks!
[13:40] <soreau> ! anyone | VINTERAA
[13:40] <VINTERAA> my question is in the first question
[13:40] <BlueWolf> DustyMonk: Any Suggestions. I formatted it in Linux so surly it can be fixed in Linux?
[13:41] <soreau> VINTERAA: It works fine
[13:41] <VINTERAA> when I search online for my problem everyone seems to have the same problem
[13:41] <auronandace> !details | VINTERAA
[13:41] <pooky> I'm unable to start thunderbird. When I try to start it just hangs, any suggestion?
[13:41] <VINTERAA> ok I wasnt sure anyone would help me but here it is:
[13:41] <VINTERAA> hp pavilion 6 64 bit preinstalled win 7
[13:42] <VINTERAA> first I was using wubi to install ubuntu it actually installs it
[13:42] <VINTERAA> but I want to use 32 bit ubuntu since it seems more stable
[13:42] <VINTERAA> when im inside ubuntu it doesnt really install.. just flashes the screen a bit
[13:43] <BlueWolf> Could someone assist me, I formatted my Ipod 5th Generation 16GB by right clicking it on the desktop and clicking format - I did it twice. And now for some strange reason it will not mount in Ubuntu or show up in Windows 7. When it is plugged in Ubuntu and Windows it restarts itself every 10 seconds or so. How do I get it to mount so I can reformat it? I have re set it by  holding Center + Play/Pause buttons and it still does nothing. I am not worried a
[13:43] <BlueWolf> bout any stuff on it, I just want it working. Please help?
[13:43] <soreau> VINTERAA: Try a ubuntu live session
[13:43] <aGamingDaddy> Boot problem on persistent usb ubuntu 11.04. WinXP damage it during a start up.
[13:44] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: Makes no sense please elaborate
[13:45] <BlueProtoman> I've got a bit of a problem...last night I got a new laptop.  It came with Windows 7, so I used UNetBootin and my dad's flash drive to install Ubuntu.  But it ran too late into the night, so I let it copy to the flash drive as I sleep.
[13:45] <VINTERAA> way to get disconnected
[13:45] <varnie> hello
[13:45] <BlueProtoman> But now, Windows 7 is mysteriously gone.  Trying UNetBootin again copies Ubuntu directly to the flash drive successfully...but I can't install it onto my laptop!
[13:46] <aGamingDaddy> Ok, It's a company computer and did some updates and then stopped. During next startup I got something about initramfs. I think something is missing.
[13:46] <madjoe> I've lost my clock at the top panel :( in new oneiric.. a recent upgrade has removed it
[13:46] <BlueProtoman> It gives me the "select an option" menu for Ubuntu, but when I pick "Try it" or "Check disk", it just cuts to a blank screen.
[13:46] <varnie> I have a fresh ubuntu 10.10 installed. if I'll update it (using update manager) it will crash. Or am I right that 11.04 is unstable now?
[13:46] <auronandace> !11.10 | madjoe
[13:46] <sparse_> Hello, I try to install ubuntu 11.04 with live cd, but I am getting into gdm login screen where I do not know the login/password
[13:47] <sparse_> Could anyone help?
[13:47] <varnie> It will be impossible to login, because that scren will be frozen.
[13:47] <VINTERAA> ok I guess no1 could help me
[13:47] <varnie> screen*
[13:47] <BlueProtoman> Any advice?  This laptop is brand new!
[13:47] <VINTERAA> why would you have me write all that nonsense if you dont even reply?
[13:48] <auronandace> !patience | VINTERAA
[13:48] <VINTERAA> write something atleast
[13:48] <VINTERAA> or tell me to stop lol
[13:48] <GirlyGirl> VINTERAA: Please post your question in a detailed single line that way its easy to understand
[13:48] <sgs2_usr> okay, i was being told to seek help on my problem here instead of ##hardware.
[13:49] <sgs2_usr> SO I am going to ask help here regarding my docking station problem on my HP EliteBook 8540w
[13:49] <sgs2_usr> what I am facing now is that I can't get back my display on my laptop when I undock, any idea?
[13:49] <BlueProtoman> I've got a bit of a problem...last night I got a new laptop.  It came with Windows 7, so I used UNetBootin and my dad's flash drive to install Ubuntu.  But it ran too late into the night, so I let it copy to the flash drive as I sleep.  But now, Windows 7 is mysteriously gone.  Trying UNetBootin again copies Ubuntu directly to the flash drive successfully...but I can't install it onto my laptop!  It gives me the "select an option" menu
[13:50] <comitt> hi all. i want to rename the 40_custom file from /etc/grub.d in order to change the order of the boot. however, the file is read only, what do i need to do to rename it from 40_custom to 06_custom? thanks
[13:50] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: During startup I get "EXT-fs error (device ...) ext4_lookup inode #1700722((comm modeprobe) deleted referenced 7602
[13:50] <auronandace> sgs2_usr: are you undocking while ubuntu is running?
[13:50] <llutz> comitt: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/40_custom  /etc/grub.d/06_custom
[13:50] <sgs2_usr> auronandace, yes
[13:50] <comitt> thanks llutz
[13:50] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: boot recover mode and do a filesystem check
[13:51] <sgs2_usr> auronandace, i read from some where on the internet, it's to do with ACPI problem?
[13:51] <auronandace> sgs2_usr: i don't think a dock is meant to be hot-pluggable
[13:51] <hagus> Is there a good tutorial on connecting a wubi ubuntu installation to a microsoft home network?
[13:51] <touchpad> I have 11.04 on a persistant usb key. (created with usb-creator from the install/live CD iso) How do I make it boot / shutdown faster? Can I select once and for all the langage setting and "try ubuntu without installing" at boot and get rid of those screens to get a direct boot?
[13:51] <sgs2_usr> auronandace, you are wrong, when i dual boot to windows 7, it works perfectly fine
[13:51] <sgs2_usr> auronandace, so how do you explain that???
[13:51] <m_bisson> auronandace: that shouldn't affect anything. Its the same as plugging in a VGA cable
[13:51] <sgs2_usr> auronandace, are you going to say that i should stick with windows 7? :D
[13:52] <auronandace> m_bisson: i see, as you can see i don't use docks
[13:52] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: I did a check disk (and there were errors)  but it stops
[13:52] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: How old is the hard drive?
[13:52] <BlueProtoman> Should I retry with the official installer?
[13:52] <auronandace> sgs2_usr: i don't know, use what you feel comfortable with
[13:53] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: Also if you use the recovery mode method the check is less unlikely to stop
[13:53] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: The harddrive is a usb-stick, the other WinDrive is new
[13:53] <sgs2_usr> auronandace, im comfortable with Ubuntu, that's why i continue using it, but i need this problem to  be fixed, that's why i join this channel
[13:53] <Yoshimi> i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get the original macintosh os or an emulator to run on ubuntu
[13:53] <sgs2_usr> auronandace, so I am hoping anyone here can help...
[13:54] <BlueProtoman> Hello?
[13:54] <auronandace> sgs2_usr: i'm a thinkpad user and have no experience with hp or any docking systems
[13:55] <sgs2_usr> auronandace, okay, thanks
[13:56] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: It want to run  a check during startup but it stops
[13:56] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: Boot a livecd and check the partition then
[13:57] <varnie> is it safe to apply updates to freshly new version 10.10 installed?
[13:57] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: I've tried that using gparted. It stops for some reason
[13:57] <sgs2_usr> anyone can help me on this ?
[13:57] <chroot> hi, i got a question ?
[13:57] <auronandace> varnie: why wouldn't it be?
[13:58] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?
[13:58] <varnie> I am afraid to apply them ;) because if I'll update to 11.04 my login screen will be frozen
[13:58] <varnie> maybe this is a bug
[13:58] <chroot> how can i find the source code of getpass(3) in ubuntu ?
[13:58] <auronandace> varnie: there is a difference between updates and an upgrade
[13:58] <varnie> yes I know
[13:59] <chroot> ?
[13:59] <auronandace> varnie: an upgrade would get you to 11.04, but normall updates would just be 10.10
[13:59] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: I'm starting up a live CD though it's 10.04
[13:59] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: ok
[13:59] <os_> hi
[14:00] <Boreeas> Can anyone help me with this: https://gist.github.com/1272311?
[14:01] <chroot> help
[14:01] <kartman_> #join Ubuntu-ru
[14:02] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?
[14:02] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl I'm in. What shall I do?
[14:02] <chroot> kartman, #join ubuntu-ru , ?
[14:02] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy:  open terminal
[14:02] <BlueProtoman> I've got a bit of a problem...last night I got a new laptop.  It came with Windows 7, so I used UNetBootin and my dad's flash drive to install Ubuntu.  But it ran too late into the night, so I let it copy to the flash drive as I sleep.  But now, Windows 7 is mysteriously gone.  Trying UNetBootin again copies Ubuntu directly to the flash drive successfully...but I can't install it onto my laptop!  It gives me the "select an option" menu
[14:02] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: done
[14:02] <kartman_> Всем привет
[14:02] <chroot> kartman, what do you want to say?
[14:02] <auronandace> chroot: i think he meant: /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:03] <chroot> ok , let me try
[14:03] <sgs2_usr> anyone here can help me with the problem of my HP EliteBook 8540w docking station?
[14:03] <os_> is unity available for other linux distributions?
[14:03] <xangua> os_: the source code is on launchpad
[14:03] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: type sudo fsck  /dev/sdaX         ... replace sdaX with needed
[14:04] <os_> ok
[14:04] <BlueWolf> Could someone assist me, I formatted my Ipod 5th Generation 16GB by right clicking it on the desktop and clicking format - I did it twice. And now for some strange reason it will not mount in Ubuntu or show up in Windows 7. When it is plugged in Ubuntu and Windows it restarts itself every 10 seconds or so. How do I get it to mount so I can reformat it? I have re set it by  holding Center + Play/Pause buttons and it still does nothing. I am not worried a
[14:04] <BlueWolf> bout any stuff on it, I just want it working. Please help?
[14:04] <chroot> ubuntu-ru is ubuntu-rusian
[14:04] <BlueProtoman> Can someone invite me to #ubuntu-help?
[14:04] <Boreeas> Oh, it appears that my problem was the version of java I was using
[14:04] <chroot> i googleQ
[14:05] <oCean> chroot: /join #ubuntu-ru is the command to join the russion channel, something kartman was probably trying to do. It was not an answer directed to you
[14:05] <xangua> BlueWolf: bad idea formatting it from ubuntu
[14:06] <BlueWolf> xangua: Tell me about it. I have learnt that. But it will not mount in windows so how do I get it to mount?
[14:07] <rypervenche> BlueProtoman: Did you choose to install it alongside Windows?
[14:07] <BlueProtoman> rypervenche: I didn't even get to the Ubuntu OS.  Just the simple boot screen.
[14:07] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: "System with errors, check forced. Resize inod not valid.   Recreate <Y>
[14:08] <GirlyGirl> y
[14:08] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: y
[14:08] <rypervenche> BlueProtoman: So you haven't even install Ubuntu on it yet?
[14:08] <BlueProtoman> I've recovered the Windows installation, but I still wanna install Ubuntu.  My real issue is that it won't!
[14:08] <sgs2_usr> okay, i have another issue with bluetooth, how can I turn off the bluetooth but still keep the bluetooth appleet to show up on the panel ?
[14:09] <BlueProtoman> No, I'm trying!
[14:09] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl :"pass1 check... Error reading block (long number) Ignore errors? <y>
[14:09] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: y
[14:10] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: Force rewrite <y>
[14:10] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: y
[14:10] <BlueWolf> xangua: Tell me about it. I have learnt that. But it will not mount in windows so how do I get it to mount?
[14:11] <xangua> BlueWolf: don't use an iphone  so no idea, take it to the apple service¿
[14:11] <xangua> just that there it was this guy the other day that did the same and had troubles with it
[14:11] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: Error writing to that block Ignore?
[14:12] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: y
[14:12] <varnie> I am doing 'install updates' but figured out there was 'unpacking the kernel' in the log. why?
[14:12] <sgs2_usr> anyone here uses kernel 3.0 on their Ubuntu 11.04?
[14:12] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: I have a feeling you physical hard drive is getting bad ... time to backup and buy a new one
[14:13] <BlueWolf> xangua: It's not an Iphone, it's a 5 Generation. The other guy might have been me, I have been trying to find a solution for a while.
[14:13] <aGamingDaddy> girlyGirl : ok; I'llkeep on saying yes until the end...
[14:13] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: Most probably yes
[14:14] <xgt001> sgs2_usr, did use a month back... i had compiled frm source though
[14:14] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl Memory allocation failed. e2fsck  aborted
[14:15] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: What drive manufacturer is this and how old is it
[14:15] <aGamingDaddy> It's an usb pendrive Kingston 32 GB
[14:16] <sgs2_usr> xgt001, any good?
[14:16] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: It's an usb pendrive kingstone 32 Gb, About one year old
[14:17] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: You have installed an operating system on a pendrive????
[14:17] <Masa> hi
[14:17] <sgs2_usr> so nobody can help on the bluetooth thingy?
[14:18] <FaceOld> hello people
[14:18] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: http://ask-leo.com/can_a_usb_thumbdrive_wear_out.html read this
[14:18] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: Yes. It's my employers laptop and I dont like the software the make me use...
[14:19] <xgt001> sgs2_usr, noticably snappier, bit improved hardware support, but worst on laptops
[14:19] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: Pendrives have a limited read/write times so they are used for storing data ... running an operating system that is constantly accessing the disk is the fastest way to kill it ... you should use an external hard drive
[14:20] <sgs2_usr> xgt001, ah, okay...then I should avoid from putting in this kernel as for now.
[14:20] <nicjasno> hi...
[14:20] <Mike-Wazoski> hello there!
[14:20] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: It's my second disk failure so I guess you're right... Any particular usb-drive well suited for an install like this?
[14:20] <xgt001> nicjasno, Mike-Wazoski hello! ask away!
[14:21] <nicjasno> i have a strange problem
[14:21] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: Hard drives any one will do
[14:21] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: alright thank you very much!
[14:21] <GirlyGirl> aGamingDaddy: but not a flash pendrive
[14:21] <nicjasno> i have this p4 computer, and installed 11.04 on it
[14:21] <GirlyGirl> !enter | nicjasno
[14:21] <sgs2_usr> anyone here experience problem with some gtk problem?
[14:21] <nicjasno> after i rebooted the computer doesn't want to go past the post screen and doesn't even go into bios
[14:22] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl: I've got the message. Though I loke the physical size...
[14:22] <nicjasno> i repeated this with 3 hard drives, always the same result
[14:22] <GirlyGirl> nicjasno: Most likely this has not an Ubuntu issue but a hardware problem
[14:23] <Mike-Wazoski> so guys, yesterday I installed the version of ubuntu 10.04 and I also recompiled manually the python version 2.7 but now I have a problem running the system>administration>printing but I solved... now my question is how can I set the ubuntu default python 2.6.5 as default instead of python 2.7 which I currently use?
[14:23] <aGamingDaddy> GirlyGirl :Thanks for your help and your advices. Cheers
[14:23] <nicjasno> hm... why does it work then with a hard drive that has no ubuntu on ot?
[14:23] <Mike-Wazoski> who I*
[14:23] <Masa> I have a problem installing canon printer drivers on ubuntu 10.04; it gives this kind of error: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[14:24] <licess> quit
[14:24] <Mike-Wazoski> Masa: was you sentence referred to me?
[14:24] <Mike-Wazoski> your*
[14:24] <xgt001> Masa, try ur installation as root ...
[14:24] <zagabar> hmm I want to do echo "blablabajs" into a sound device in /dev/ so that I can hear it. But I can't find the correct one. I can't see any dsp or such. What is it usually calle?
[14:24] <xgt001> Masa, by prefixing sudo before ur commands
[14:25] <oCean> Masa: if you need to install anything, use 'sudo' to get sufficient privileges, for example   sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:25] <zagabar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/704456/ here are my /dev devices.
[14:25] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: so have you got any kinds of solutions for my problem?
[14:25] <sgs2_usr> lately my Ubuntu 11.04 keep crashing when I fire up Efax-gtk application, why is that?
[14:26] <xgt001> Mike-Wazoski, i guess u just remove the newer python
[14:26] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: well how can I remove the python 2.7 who I actually installed yesterday manually?
[14:26] <xgt001> Mike-Wazoski, how about dpkg-reconfigure python...
[14:27] <xgt001> Mike-Wazoski, did u install python 2.7 manually
[14:27] <Mike-Wazoski> yup
[14:27] <Mike-Wazoski> I compiled it manually, yesterday
[14:28] <Mike-Wazoski> now I see that the printing doesn't work because of an error of python 2.7
[14:28] <Mike-Wazoski> but I solved launching the process with python2.6
[14:29] <Mike-Wazoski> but if I type the command python in the shell it launches the python 2.7 instead of 2.6
[14:29] <Mike-Wazoski> (is a little bit complicated to explain >.<)
[14:29] <xgt001> Mike-Wazoski, oh :( i dono the exact solution... try this ok. sudo dpkg-reconfigure python2.6
[14:29] <Mokilok> I'm having an issue with KDE on Ubuntu 11.04. When accessing a windows share it is copying the entire video file locally instead of opening it and streaming. Is there a way to change this so that it can stream from a windows share?
[14:30] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: what exactly does that command?
[14:30] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: I just wanna put the 2.6 as default on my ubuntu 10.04
[14:31] <xgt001> Mike-Wazoski, it resets the package defaults so incase python 2.7 overwrote 2.6 it MAY reset back to 2.6
[14:31] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: well, let's try, what's the worst thing can happen?
[14:35] <delinquentme> so I had a micro-derp while installing a software outside the package manager ... in which i installed the contents of the  folder .. just into the general /usr/bin file
[14:35] <delinquentme> nm!
[14:35] <delinquentme> figure it out
[14:35] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: nothing... trying to reconfigure the packet 2.6 of python, the default version is still the 2.7
[14:35] <bhush> Hello guys why cant  I see login screen while booting with ubuntu...??? I can see is just a blank screen
[14:36] <ikt> hi, does anyone know the package that handles all the settings?
[14:36] <dee-dee> hi. Is there a way to stop Ubuntu 11.04 from asking me my password when I want to get my screen back? It's a fresh install.
[14:36] <bashhistory> did anyone answer on .bash_history?
[14:36] <bashhistory> it only flushes to file on session end
[14:36] <bashhistory> which is pointless, and in the last ten years has caused me problems... seventy times. So why hasn't anyone else had the same problem and decided to fix it already?
[14:37] <bashhistory> I am guessing there is a shutdown hook on a sesssion
[14:37] <delinquentme> bhush,  sounds like graphics driver issue
[14:37] <ikt> bashhistory: have you reported a bug?
[14:37] <bashhistory> or is it more hardcoded?
[14:37] <bashhistory> ikt: no
[14:37] <Mike-Wazoski> oh god don't know how to solve and the worst thing is that I've also a terrible headache..
[14:37] <bhush> yes but how to solve it....!!!
[14:37] <bashhistory> ikt: why?
[14:37] <bashhistory> ikt: you know how to set up bash to flush bash_history before the session ends?
[14:38] <ikt> because nobody will do anything until you report a bug
[14:38] <hramrach> bashhistory: there might be an option for that
[14:38] <mtnman80> Hello.  Can someone possibly recover data off an ext4 thumb drive ... and put it onto a Windows PC?  My hard drive is crashing on my Linux box.  When I put the thumb drive into the Windows PC, it asks if I want to format, right?  Well then that means I loose all my data ... right?
[14:38] <bashhistory> ikt: I knew it, you are just a pedantic type, who doesn't know the answer, and tries to excuse himself from that fact
[14:38] <bashhistory> which I knew immediately
[14:38] <hramrach> or a command to save it which you can run from $PS
[14:38] <ikt> dee-dee: go into settings >
[14:38] <bashhistory> hramrach: I am looking on google, but it is ambiguous input
[14:39] <bashhistory> ikt: admit it
[14:39] <xgt001> Mike-Wazoski, really sorry :( did u generate python 2.7 packages and then install ? so that u could have removed them easily?
[14:39] <bashhistory> you irc type pedant
[14:39] <ikt> dee-dee: settings > screen > lock? > off
[14:39] <hramrach> if it interprets commands, maybe it does not
[14:39] <bashhistory> hramrach: I'll look at a command, might find it
[14:39] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: unfortunatley not! anyway nevermind and thanks for your help!
[14:39] <bashhistory> yey I found it
[14:40] <ikt> bashhistory: not paying attention, when you say 10 years and headache I assume bug
[14:40] <mtnman80> mtnman80: is there someway to recover the data still?  My Linux box barely runs smooth enough for very long ... to accomplish any drawn out process ...
[14:40] <xgt001> anytime! i am sorry i couldnt fix your issue Mike-Wazoski
[14:40] <hramrach> bashhistory: note that your harddrive will suffer
[14:40] <mtnman80> can anyone help?
[14:40] <bashhistory> ikt: stop being pedantic then. You know what the rule of irc is? The first person who replies is just the bored one who would never admit to not knowing the answer, but will just say you need to do something to get help.
[14:40] <ikt> do you know what pedantic means?
[14:41] <bashhistory> ikt: rhetorical questions - another symptom of your ilk
[14:41] <ikt> bashhistory: nope, try again
[14:41] <escott> mtnman80, make another thumb drive use that to mount the first thumb drive
[14:41] <bashhistory> ikt: try again what?
[14:41] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: could you please tell me at least how can I remove the python 2.7 if I compiled it manually yesterday?
[14:41] <bashhistory> ikt: trying to get someone to do something - another flag
[14:42] <airtonix> bashhistory: stay on topic
[14:42] <bashhistory> ikt: I called you a pedant, and you ask me if I know what it means, another flag, you are 4/4
[14:42] <bashhistory> airtonix: ok, cheers
[14:42] <mtnman80> escott:  ok.  I have another format that Windows successfully reads.  So how do I do this in Windows.  Again, my Linux box is barely working well enough to do anything ....
[14:43] <mtnman80> escott: I mean ... I have another thumb drive that Windows reads ...
[14:43] <DustyMonk_> mtnman80: no support for win here
[14:43] <escott> mtnman80, windows can't read ext4 i think there are some windows ext2/ext3 drivers and you could see if they support ext4 but out of the box there is no way to open ext4 in windows
[14:44] <xgt001> Mike-Wazoski, you said u had compiled it manually right?
[14:44] <mtnman80> escott: ok.  where would I find these ext2/ext3 drivers ???
[14:44] <ikt> does anyone know the package of the gnome system settings?
[14:44] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: yup
[14:45] <delinquentme> bhush, so yeah the drivers
[14:45] <delinquentme> bhush, if you just installed it .. maybe reinstall?
[14:45] <delinquentme> or did it just break?
[14:46] <xgt001> Mike-Wazoski, i donno much about how to remove something after u installed it manually by a non dpkg way.. due to the change in config files python 2.7 might have made
[14:46] <bhush> NO I hadent installed
[14:46] <delinquentme> bhush, you should reinstall it then
[14:46] <bhush> ok
[14:47] <BlueWolf> Could someone assist me, I formatted my Ipod 5th Generation 16GB by right clicking it on the desktop and clicking format - I did it twice. And now for some strange reason it will not mount in Ubuntu or show up in Windows 7. When it is plugged in Ubuntu and Windows it restarts itself every 10 seconds or so. How do I get it to mount so I can reformat it? I have re set it by holding Center + Play/Pause buttons and it still does nothing. I am not worried ab
[14:47] <BlueWolf> out any stuff on it, I just want it working. ( Bus 001 Device 005: ID 05ac:1265 Apple, Inc. iPod Nano 5.Gen ) It's being found in the terminal but how do I get it to mount?
[14:47] <Mike-Wazoski> xgt001: okay thanks for your help I gotta go now I'll try later! thanks for your time man!
[14:48] <hramrach> BlueWolf: I suggest using iTunes for that
[14:48] <airtonix> BlueWolf: do it again with palimpset and make sure you select FAT32 filesystem  or just FAT (if fat32 isn't there(
[14:48] <delinquentme> bhush, you should talk in this channel .. specifically because others are here who might be able to help
[14:49] <bhush> :)
[14:49] <BlueWolf> hramrach: It will not mount in BOTH Windows 7 or Ubuntu?
[14:49] <airtonix> BlueWolf: open palimpset and see if it shows up there.
[14:49] <DustyMonk_> BlueWolf: maybe this link is useful http://el-tunes.com/
[14:49] <GirlyGirl> BlueWolf: I believe in windows ipods never mount without itunes?
[14:50] <escott> mtnman80, i have no idea. it would almost certainly be one of the top 5 google results if you search for ext2 drivers windows
[14:50] <BlueWolf> airtonix: Ok, how would I do it through the terminal? I did format it as FAT32 filesystem.
[14:50] <sgs2_usr> how can I keep the bluetooth-applet while turning off bluetooth by default when boot up?
[14:50] <airtonix> BlueWolf: press alt+f2, type palimpset, press enter
[14:50] <bhush> hey all can you pls tell me what problems might have ubuntu with ATI graphics card
[14:51] <BlueWolf> airtonix: Is palimpset a program? Must I install it? There is nothing
[14:51] <airtonix> BlueWolf: it's standard disk manager for ubuntu
[14:51] <hramrach> BlueWolf: iTunes comes with some iPod updater which might restore the iPod
[14:52] <BlueWolf> airtonix: Nothing came up
[14:52] <BlueWolf> hramrach: Itunes is not finding the Ipod, nether is any other computer or OS.
[14:52] <bhush> :|
[14:53] <airtonix> BlueWolf: how do you know that ?
[14:53] <christina> can someone tell me what the file is called where ubuntu saves the distribution version
[14:53] <airtonix> BlueWolf: have you used : fdisk -l or lsusb  ?
[14:53] <hramrach> airtonix: because it is broken
[14:53] <airtonix> hramrach: how do you know that ?
[14:54] <BlueWolf> airtonix: Because there is not list and this error is coming up:  Could not open location 'file:///home/byron/palimpset'   - palimpset': No such file or directory
[14:54] <delinquentme> can someone confirm that their installation of ubuntu doesnt have a /usr/bin/sys file?
[14:54] <airtonix> BlueWolf: anyway, palimpset is installed by default on my ubuntu natty
[14:54] <airtonix> BlueWolf: which doesn't exactly mean your compter can't see your ipod
[14:54] <delinquentme> or better yet .. are there listings of what should be inside a clean install of ubuntu within the /usr/bin file?
[14:55] <oCean> delinquentme: I have not. The /usr/bin/sys file is provided by the openafs-client package
[14:56] <hramrach> BlueWolf | ... it restarts itself every 10 second ...
[14:56] <delinquentme> oCean, openafs-client?
[14:56] <delinquentme> oCean, bc i had something else which installed it
[14:56] <delinquentme> might i ask how you know that?
[14:56] <delinquentme> being as you didint install it?
[14:56] <oCean> delinquentme: install the apt-file package. Then you can search like  apt-file search /usr/bin/sys
[14:56] <BlueWolf> hramrach: Yes, only when it is plugged in to the computer.
[14:57] <hramrach> airtonix: when htere is not enough time to configure the device it can't be accessed
[14:57] <delinquentme> ah
[14:57] <hramrach> BlueWolf: do you have iTunes on Windows?
[14:58] <hramrach> and did you try the updater?
[14:58] <BlueWolf> airtonix: Ok, but it comes up in my terminal when I typed:  lsusb - Bus 001 Device 005: ID 05ac:1265 Apple, Inc. iPod Nano 5.Gen. So what now?
[14:58] <airtonix> BlueWolf: you need to reliably format it
[14:58] <airtonix> BlueWolf: obviously your previous attempt was not reliable
[14:59] <oCean> BlueWolf: type dmesg (kernel logging) and then see if it comes up (in dmesg output) as a storage device
[14:59] <sgs2_usr> BlueWolf, what are you trying to achieve here? get ipod to work on ubuntu?
[14:59] <BlueWolf> hramrach: I do have Itunes - But I don't use Internet on Windows. It's only for my games and Ipod
[14:59] <airtonix> BlueWolf:  you should also be careful about simply using itunes on windows, since last time I heard it prevents access to your music without itunes
[15:00] <hramrach> BlueWolf: the updater is installed with iTunes. It should not need internet
[15:00] <sgs2_usr> hramrach, can we run itunes for ubuntu?
[15:00] <BlueWolf> sgs2_usr: I have tryed with Wine, but it freezes and very slow
[15:01] <hramrach> sgs2_usr airtonix no, iTunes don't run on Ubuntu. And last time I heard you can access new iPods with iTunes only
[15:01] <BlueWolf> airtonix: What do I do now to get it to show??
[15:01] <sgs2_usr> BlueWolf, okay. can't you use Banshee for your ipod? :D
[15:01] <babble> iTunes doesn't prevent access to anything; if you used older versions of Windows Media Player on Windows, WMP would 'helpfully' drm your unprotected tracks into WMA for you.
[15:01] <imprint> I have visitor survey everytime I go on firefox, how do I get rid of it, it wont close tab?
[15:01] <hramrach> there may be a way to switch to using non-Itunes but it's not as straightforward as formatting the iPod
[15:01] <babble> iTunes will convert unprotected WMA into unprotected AAC on Windows, but it doesn't lock you out of using those AAC tracks in a different player (VLC, or something else)
[15:02] <sgs2_usr> i remember seeing somewhere in Banshee there is a plugin that can talk to iphone or ipod...
[15:02] <airtonix> BlueWolf: hramrach: there are at least 6 versions of the 5th gen ipod. and not all can have rockbox installed on it... but if you can then that is a good option since then you can buy your music from amazon drm free
[15:03] <sgs2_usr> airtonix, do you mean that rockbox is jailbreak?
[15:03] <babble> sgs2_usr: Banshee will see my 3rd Gen Touch, but syncing media to it is hit or miss.
[15:03] <airtonix> sgs2_usr: no it's a completely different OS for the ipos
[15:03] <airtonix> ipod*
[15:03] <sgs2_usr> babble, are you saying it work most of the time and not all the time in banshee?
[15:03] <sgs2_usr> airtonix, okay
[15:04] <hramrach> airtonix: it's a Nano, it can't run anything
[15:04] <babble> sgs2_usr: I'm saying that I've sucessfully gotten MP3 media ONTO my touch about twice using Banshee.
[15:04] <oCean> BlueWolf: have you search dmesg output?
[15:04] <oCean> *searched
[15:04] <airtonix> hramrach: i believe i saw the words "5th gen"
[15:04] <babble> most of the time, Banshee thinks my iPod doesn't want to play MP3 audio or MPEG4 video (converted in Handbrake, etc.)
[15:04] <BlueWolf> oCean: Yes
[15:04] <sgs2_usr> babble, are you able to extract mp3s from your ipod to banshee?
[15:04] <oCean> and?
[15:04] <hramrach> airtonix: 5thgen Nano
[15:04] <pocoyo> .
[15:04] <babble> sgs2_usr: not lately, no.
[15:04] <sgs2_usr> babble, okay...
[15:05] <BlueWolf> oCean: Well what is the pastbin site
[15:05] <babble> fwiw, I use iTunes in a VM running WinXP
[15:05] <sgs2_usr> babble, btw, which version of banshee? 2.2?
[15:05] <action09> hi alli try to install 10.04 alternate from usb key and i've got at the begginning steps the message indficating that installer can't detect any cdrom (i'm installing from usb.) if i try to re-try , same.. any clue please
[15:05] <babble> let me check
[15:05] <oCean> BlueWolf: there are many. Try paste.ubuntu.com
[15:05] <babble> sgs2_usr: I currently have Banshee 2.2.0 installed.
[15:06] <babble> let me check the iOS version on my iPod.
[15:06] <sgs2_usr> babble, right....okay.
[15:07] <sgs2_usr> babble, i don't use any APPLE products...so im safe on my Ubuntu :D
[15:07] <babble> sgs2_usr: I'm using iOS 4.3.5 on my iPod.
[15:07] <hramrach> BlueWolf: a nano this new can be probably used with iTunes only
[15:07] <babble> sgs2_usr: oh, I root for Android to succeed, but I'd really like a credible iPod Touch android device.
[15:07] <action09> i think i'll try http://demtrex.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/work-around-the-cd-rom-detection-issue-when-installing-ubuntu-server/
[15:07] <babble> I don't want another phone contract :)
[15:07] <BlueWolf> oCean: Ok, I don't know what it all means - http://paste.ubuntu.com/704475/
[15:07] <sgs2_usr> babble, i only use SAMSUNG GALAXY S2 as my mp3 player and it talks to my Ubuntu flawlessly :D
[15:08] <babble> sgs2_usr: how's the battery life on the S2?
[15:08] <hramrach> BlueWolf: or you will have to find some howto with detailed steps how to format it. It needs some data on the drive which you can't remove
[15:08] <sgs2_usr> babble, very good...right now im on 2.3.4 XXKG6
[15:08] <BlueWolf> Ok, so what is the out come, how do I fix it????
[15:09] <babble> sgs2_usr: The Galaxy line is neat enough, but I really really don't want another phone. hehe
[15:09] <sgs2_usr> babble, with wifi, bluetooth, games , it lasted me one whole day of heavy usage before needing to recharge
[15:09] <kennydude> Hi, what is the likelyhood of this patch being merged? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/144431
[15:09] <babble> I keep hoping MotoGoog is going to do a phone-free Nexus or something
[15:09] <sgs2_usr> babble, yes, if you already have one, no point
[15:09] <babble> sgs2_usr: hmm. I can go a few DAYS using my iPod as a media player
[15:10] <oCean> BlueWolf: it does recognize the ipod
[15:10] <babble> sgs2_usr: no, no, you misunderstand me. I like BOTH platforms (iOS *and* Android)
[15:10] <sgs2_usr> babble, well iPod is only act media player, smartphone needs more juice
[15:10] <hramrach> BlueWolf: you need to ask some Apple fans, it's Apple hardware and very specific and dincompatible with anything non-Apple
[15:10] <babble> I'd happily use both, if I could get my hands on a credible iPod Touch alternative using Android.
[15:10] <sgs2_usr> babble, ah, okay.... :D
[15:10] <oCean> BlueWolf: but I'm not sure if it is in a state that is useful. What happens if you try to mount    sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt
[15:10] <babble> (yes, I'm aware of Archos handhelds. No, they're not what I want)
[15:11] <sgs2_usr> anyone uses HP notebook here?
[15:11] <hramrach> babble: and what is it you want? an iPad lookalike? Apple would sue them
[15:11] <oCean> Let's move back to the support topic, the general discussion about apple, ipods and such can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:11] <Mokilok> sgs2_usr, I'm using a HP Dv6
[15:11] <sgs2_usr> oCean, sorry 'bout that...
[15:11] <ikt> kennydude: depends on how hard you push it
[15:12] <ikt> but very unlikely for 11.10
[15:12] <babble> hramrach: no, not a lookalike. a phoneless android handheld with ~30gb of storage and an upgrade path to honeycomb, preferably
[15:12] <ikt> kennydude: if you push hard might be able to get into backports
[15:12] <sgs2_usr> Mokilok, okay, great! Can I know how long your battery can last?
[15:12] <babble> sgs2_usr: I'm in a Pavilion G6 (HP)
[15:12] <BlueWolf> oCean:   mount: special device /dev/sdd1 does not exist
[15:12] <sgs2_usr> babble, okay, how's your battery life?
[15:12] <kennydude> ikt: Hm, it's a really small change and will fix urls like http://lol-.tumblr.com
[15:12] <hramrach> babble: did you look at the Asus Terminator or what is that thing with removable keyboard?
[15:12] <BlueWolf> oCean: Ok im in Offtopic
[15:12] <Mokilok> It's meant to be 5 hours of use time, 6 cell battery. I haven't tested it yet.
[15:13] <babble> sgs2_usr: bearing in mind that I use my iPod *primarily* as an iPod (I'm not on wifi terribly much with it) I charge it about twice a week
[15:13] <oCean> hramrach: babble, please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:13] <hramrach> babble: it comes with honeycomb afaik
[15:13] <sgs2_usr> babble, when i dual boot into win7, my HP EliteBook can last for 4 hours, but when i boot into Ubuntu 11.04, i can only get 3 hours max
[15:13] <codemagician> how do I mount an apple timecapsule on my network from ubuntu 11.04?
[15:13] <oCean> BlueWolf: I have no clue what you did to your ipod, or if that 5th gen is even supported. It does not seem to be an ubuntu issue anyway
[15:13] <ikt> kennydude: it's a small patch apart of a fairly critical package though
[15:14] <kennydude> codemagician: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/connecting-to-your-apple-time-capsule-in-ubuntu/
[15:14] <hramrach> oCean: when nVidia finally releases their tegra2 drivers you could run Ubuntu on it too ;-)
[15:14] <kennydude> ikt: Right, so how could I raise attention to it?
[15:15] <BlueWolf> oCean: All I did was right click the mount on the desktop and click format. So you don't have any other suggestions?
[15:15] <ikt> kennydude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix <- you've already done the first three steps
[15:15] <oCean> BlueWolf: nope, no more clues
[15:16] <mtnman80> does anyone know how to disable the "extent" feature bit on an ext4 thumb drive in Windows ... so that Windows can read the thumb drive via a special program called "Ext2Fsd".  Or does this disabling have to be done in Linux?
[15:16] <BlueWolf> oCean: GREAT!!! Then how will I get it to work? |-)
[15:16] <BlueWolf> oCean: How do I get it to mount in windows 7 so I can format it there?
[15:16] <codemagician> kennydude, i saw that article and it doesn't work
[15:16] <kennydude> ikt: Well, I was just looking to see if someone else had fixed it, but the bug is quite old now as other distros seem to ignore this.
[15:16] <codemagician> kennydude, there is no command line tool called mount_afp
[15:16] <hramrach> babble: it's called Transformer, actually
[15:17] <oCean> BlueWolf: you cannot see it in Windows either, so ask in ##apple what you should do. It's not an ubuntu topic.
[15:17] <mtnman80> here is the link to help you understand what I mean: http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/
[15:17] <conn> Does anyone use VNC Viewer?  I am trying to connect from my Win7x64-bit machine to my Ubuntu.  Looks Like I am able to connect but the screen is black.. Any thoughts?
[15:17] <babble> hramrach: I don't know what you're trying to say; I didn't ask.
[15:17] <hramrach> BlueWolf: that's a Windows 7 question, not Ubuntu question :p
[15:18] <kennydude> codemagician: Try http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=636125
[15:18] <BlueWolf> hramrach: Ya ya!
[15:18] <kennydude> codemagician: I'm just googling ;)
[15:18] <codemagician> kennydude, i tried that too "mount error(22): Invalid argument"
[15:18] <codemagician> kennydude, bummer hey
[15:19] <mtnman80> can anyone help me to get Windows 7 to read an ext4 thumb drive ... via special program that requires you to disable the "extent" feature bit of the ext4 first?
[15:19] <hramrach> babble: it's a handheld device using android
[15:19] <auronandace> mtnman80: reading any ext filesystem from windows is a bad idea
[15:19] <BlueWolf> oCean: ##apple is not opening in empathy?
[15:19] <conn> anyone familiar with VNC Viewer?
[15:20] <kennydude> codemagician: yeah, a bit of a pain. Try going onto the network tab of the File Manager and see if you can find it
[15:20] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto my new laptop via a flash drive and UNetBootin, but when I pick any of the three options in the boot menu, it just cuts to a blank screen!  Any tips?
[15:20] <mtnman80> auronandace: hello again.  this sucks.  I don't really have choice.  I need to recover the data.  It turns out my Linux won't even run effeciently enough to much of any process (uploading files to an online file storage bank, etc.)
[15:20] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: how long does the blank screen stay?
[15:21] <kennydude> conn: Try pressing keys or something. Could be a screensaver? (I don't know much about VNC)
[15:21] <oCean> BlueWolf: you probably have to register first
[15:21] <Artur> mtnman80: check this http://goo.gl/TVVXe
[15:21] <oCean> !register | BlueWolf
[15:21] <mtnman80> auronandace: I had hope there for a little bit.  But now I can definitely see that the hard drive is going to crap ...
[15:21] <BlueProtoman> hramrach: Until I shut off the screen.
[15:21] <BlueProtoman> *shut off the laptop
[15:22] <BlueWolf> oCean: Can I PM you :D?
[15:22] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: did you try some safe boot option?
[15:22] <babble> hramrach: as I've already been told to move the discussion, it seems tempting fate to keep talking about it
[15:22] <oCean> BlueWolf: sure
[15:22] <auronandace> mtnman80: what do you mean by linux won't run efficiently enough?
[15:23] <mtnman80> auronandace: After you login, it freezes at some point and start shows squares and such for the text in the windows.  The hard drive is obviously shot ...
[15:23] <julius_> hi
[15:23] <auronandace> mtnman80: have you tried a livecd (that wouldn't use the harddrive it stays in ram)
[15:24] <BlueProtoman> hramrach: Yes.  Still nothing.
[15:24] <julius_> why does this:  fakeroot make-kpkg --arch=i686  --cross-compile --initrd --append-to-version=-oss kernel-image kernel-headers              not start buiilding a i686 kernel on a amd64 host?
[15:25] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: do you have caps lock led on your keyboard? Does pressing chasnge it? How long does disk keep working after it shuts down the screen? did you try an external screen?
[15:25] <mtnman80> auronandace: that's actually a good thought.  Didn't think of that.  I can't access anything in the home directory (i.e. on the hard drive), though ... right?  That means I couldn't get to any of my pictures ...
[15:25] <BlueProtoman> No Caps Lock, pressing keys does nothing, I don't know how I can tell, and no I have not but I don't see how that would be the issue.
[15:26] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: then numlock
[15:26] <mtnman80> auronandace: unless there is a way to do that.  And I would have to run the live CD for 9.10 ... as that is the latest one on a CD that actually works ...
[15:26] <auronandace> mtnman80: you can mount the harddrive from a livecd
[15:26] <BlueProtoman> Well, I mean I have the keys, but they're not active.
[15:26] <conn> Does anyone use VNC viewer to connect to Ubunut?
[15:27] <mtnman80> auronandace: OK.  Is it a pretty simple command?
[15:27] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: there might be a disk led on the usb drive
[15:27] <auronandace> mtnman80: yes
[15:27] <BlueProtoman> There is.  It flashes for a bit, then just glows flatly.
[15:27] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: then ubuntu is probably incompatible with your hardware. You can try different version
[15:27] <mtnman80> auronandace: I guess it would simply be "sudo mount /dev/sda1", right?
[15:27] <Artur> conn: describe your problem
[15:27] <conn> #windows 7
[15:28] <auronandace> mtnman80: almost.. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/whatevermountpoint/
[15:28] <codemagician> can anyone help me convert "mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.50/Data/ /media/timecapsule/ -o password=<myp>" into an fstab entry please?
[15:28] <conn> join windows 7
[15:28] <auronandace> mtnman80: but it might appear under media (check there first)
[15:28] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: it flashes after the screen goes blank?
[15:29] <BlueProtoman> Yes.
[15:29] <BlueProtoman> Just once.
[15:29] <mtnman80> auronandace: man, you have been the greatest help out of anyone here throughout this whole ordeal ... but not like others haven't tried ...  how do I know how to specify the mount point?
[15:29] <BlueProtoman> And by "blank" I mean "black"; the screen itself is still on.
[15:29] <pocoyo> ....
[15:29] <auronandace> mtnman80: first boot the livecd then talk to me
[15:30] <kennydude> codemagician: I'd try: "//192.168.1.50/Data /media/timecapsule smbfs password=<myp> 0 0"
[15:30] <kennydude> codemagician: Just don't kill me if that doesn't work
[15:30] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: then graphics driver probably crashes the machine. Should not happen in the "safe" mode but whatever
[15:31] <BlueProtoman> hramrach: What should I do, then?
[15:31] <mtnman80> auronandace: ok, I'll boot up the live CD.  Then we can format the USB drive (the new storage location for the pictures I want to save off the hard drive) off the live CD too ...
[15:31] <codemagician> kennydude, my fstab seems to have UUID=.... hex code.... /storage/diskname ext4    defaults,errors=remount-ro  0   2
[15:31] <auronandace> mtnman80: ok
[15:31] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: still it might be some other driver that happens to load at the time but since Ubuntu helpfully turns off the screen you never know
[15:31] <kennydude> codemagician: Add it on a new line at the end
[15:31] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: try other version/distro
[15:31] <codemagician> kennydude, im not sure what those UUIDs are
[15:31] <codemagician> kennydude, do I need one
[15:32] <hramrach> BlueProtoman: or make it not blank the screen and take a picture of the messages
[15:32] <kennydude> codemagician: Those lines  are telling ubuntu where to mount everything currently, just add another line at the end
[15:32] <kennydude> codemagician: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[15:32] <mtnman80> you know how to reformat a thumb drive ... from ext4 to a format that windows will be able to read?
[15:32] <rypervenche> hramrach: What do you mean make it "not blank the screen" ?
[15:33] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! I am looking for suggestions regarding USB WiFi adapters that work out of the box with Lucid Linx; I have a laptop but the internal wireless card [Atheros 5001] is useless [with this OS, maybe...?]
[15:33] <mtnman80> auronandace: you know how to reformat a thumb drive ... from ext4 to a format that windows will be able to read?
[15:33] <kennydude> mtnman80: Using Disk Utility format it as FAT
[15:33] <auronandace> mtnman80: yes
[15:34] <mtnman80> kennydude: good call.  That is simple enough.
[15:34] <hramrach> rypervenche: Ubuntu blanks the screen because be defualt he boot loader passes some stuff like: quit splash vt.handoff=7
[15:34] <auronandace> mtnman80: if none of the files you need to save are bigger than 4gb then we'll use fat32
[15:34] <BluesKaj> BBL
[15:34] <hramrach> but the safe mode should not do that so I guess there is another issue
[15:35] <mtnman80> auronandace: on the splash screen for the live CD, which option do I choose ... "Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer" ???
[15:35] <auronandace> mtnman80: yes
[15:35] <mtnman80> auronandace: wait a second ... we can do a "check disc for defects" off of here ... should I try that first?
[15:36] <auronandace> mtnman80: that will take a while, don't bother
[15:36] <auronandace> mtnman80: you know the disk works so it should be ok
[15:36] <mtnman80> auronandace: will that possibly fix the problem with my hard drive, though?  No ... I thought my hard disk is shot ...
[15:37] <codemagician> kennydude, how do I tell mount to run the /etc/fstab without rebooting?
[15:37] <auronandace> mtnman80: no, it means check the cd for detects (not the harddrive)
[15:37] <auronandace> defects
[15:37] <alazare619> so im having an issue with a dark gtk theme (any) and certain sites with ff the text field will be all while and unless i highlight i cant see what im typing stylish addon for ff doesnt seem to be working either
[15:37] <kennydude> codemagician: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4216679
[15:37] <mtnman80> auronandace: oh ... duh.  Can we scan the hard disk from the live CD, perhaps?
[15:38] <mtnman80> auronandace: or once again ... do you need special software for this?
[15:38] <codemagician> kennydude, thanks dude
[15:38] <kennydude> alazare619: Best advice: File a bug
[15:38] <mtnman80> auronandace: scan it once it's mounted, I mean?
[15:38] <kennydude> codemagician: No problem
[15:38] <auronandace> mtnman80: that was suggested earlier to you but you decided not to (and i don't know why)
[15:39] <mtnman80> auronandace: I don't think you can scan a mounted drive, though can you ... I think that was the question.  It gave a warning saying that you might cause serious damage to your system.  Let's just proceed to backup my data ... and then maybe we can try that ...
[15:40] <auronandace> mtnman80: ok, lets back up the data first
[15:40] <mtnman80> auronandace: so I select "boot from first hard disk" or "Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer" on the spalsh screen?
[15:41] <auronandace> mtnman80: try....
[15:41] <mtnman80> auronandace: OK, I hit "Try ..."
[15:42] <mtnman80> auronandace: thanks so much.  you are a lifesaver.  I know I've been on here a lot today ...
[15:42] <auronandace> mtnman80: thank me if it works :)
[15:42] <mtnman80> auronandace: thank you so much for even trying!
[15:44] <alazare619> HMM
[15:44] <raven> ffmpeg stops with cycling the cpu to 100% [mpeg @ 0x9863380] Invalid timestamps stream=0, pts=5939, dts=4294962435, size=6124
[15:44] <mtnman80> auronandace: OK. I'm in.  Let's mount the hard drive, I guess!
[15:45] <auronandace> mtnman80: first open the filemanager and find media
[15:45] <ertyui> hi
[15:45] <ertyui> how to set the date by command line ?
[15:45] <auronandace> mtnman80: see if you recognise anything in there
[15:45] <MichaelFindlay> Hello
[15:46] <mtnman80> auronandace: where do I access the file manager now?
[15:46] <iszak> How do I increase wubi's swap space?
[15:46] <iszak> or rather swap file.
[15:46] <auronandace> mtnman80: from the applications menu
[15:47] <auronandace> iszak: consider using ubuntu in a vm instead (wubi is awful)
[15:47] <mtnman80> auronandace: under "Accessories"
[15:47] <mtnman80> auronandace: ???
[15:47] <iszak> auronandace, why is wubi awful?
[15:47] <mtnman80> auronandace: remember, I'm in 9.10, so ...
[15:47] <auronandace> mtnman80: you are likely using gnome, i tend to use xfce, just look under the menus
[15:48] <iszak> auronandace, hmm?
[15:48] <auronandace> iszak: i consider it a hack (it isn't the way linux should be run)
[15:49] <mtnman80> auronandace: I'm not finding it for some reason.   We can run the command you gave me before in Terminal too, right?
[15:49] <iszak> auronandace, runs fine here... not sure why you hate it
[15:49] <auronandace> mtnman80: if you know how to open a terminal do that
[15:50] <auronandace> mtnman80: then run: gksudo nautilus
[15:50] <W3ird_N3rd> hiya, I've bought a ZTE Blade Android phone. When I plug it in, USB storage does not work. On Windows, it does? :-/
[15:50] <ertyui> how to set the date by command line ?
[15:50] <starjewel> im new here :)
[15:50] <auronandace> iszak: i don't see the point in it (especially when you can use a vm)
[15:50] <mtnman80> auronandace: ok.  I've got "root - File Browser" up and running now ...
[15:51] <iszak> auronandace, VM's are slow and have the overhead of the host OS.
[15:51] <auronandace> mtnman80: good, be careful what you do in this
[15:51] <mtnman80> auronandace: ok ....
[15:51] <iszak> Sure wubi is going to be slow because it's on another FS instead of just Ext4 but atleast you're not running the host as well
[15:51] <auronandace> mtnman80: is there shortcuts on the left to anything?
[15:52] <auronandace> iszak: then why not install it normally?
[15:52] <mtnman80> auronandace: we've got "root", "Desktop", "File System", "Network", and "Trash" as options ...
[15:52] <auronandace> iszak: in its own partition?
[15:52] <iszak> freedom to uninstall it easily.
[15:52] <auronandace> mtnman80: enter file system, and go to the /media folder
[15:53] <auronandace> iszak: what? you can't manage your own partitions on a harddrive?
[15:53] <mtnman80> auronandace: ok.  I'm there, but there isn't anything in there ...
[15:53] <purplefool> my computer crashed yesterday. after extensive hardware work, i have come to the conclusion that it has something to do with the boot process. can anyone help me diagnose this?
[15:53] <iszak> I can, but it's grub that annoys me.
[15:53] <raven> ffmpeg stops with cycling the cpu to 100% [mpeg @ 0x9863380] Invalid timestamps stream=0, pts=5939, dts=4294962435, size=6124
[15:53] <auronandace> mtnman80: ok, that means it isn't mounted
[15:54] <auronandace> mtnman80: open a terminal and type: mount
[15:54] <alex-> Who makes moonlight?
[15:54] <mtnman80> auronandace: ok, so we need to mount it in terminal.  good thiing to check, though ...
[15:54] <sajimon> alex-: mono guys
[15:54] <auronandace> mtnman80: then show the output in a pastebin
[15:54] <auronandace> !paste | mtnman80
[15:54] <tucemiux_> how do you add a PPA's key signature into ubuntu so you can use the PPA?
[15:54] <oCean> !addppa | tucemiux_
[15:54] <mtnman80> auronandace: exit Nuatilus first?
[15:55] <auronandace> iszak: i've had no trouble with grub
[15:55] <iszak> tucemiux_, apt-add-repository
[15:55] <auronandace> mtnman80: if you want yes
[15:55] <iszak> whoops bot already said so :P
[15:55] <sid_> Hi. how does one go about installing flash player on Firefox 7 in lucid?
[15:56] <iszak> sid_, add the partners repository (I believe it's in that) and install it via the package manager.
[15:56] <DustyMonk_> sid_: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree does the trick
[15:56] <oCean> tucemiux_: what that link says, is that using add-apt-repository you can do this all in one command (add ppa & key)
[15:56] <raven> ffmpeg stops with cycling the cpu to 100% [mpeg @ 0x9863380] Invalid timestamps stream=0, pts=5939, dts=4294962435, size=6124
[15:56] <auronandace> sid_: i didn't think firefox 7 was supported in 10.04
[15:56] <iszak> raven, we heard you the first time.
[15:57] <mtnman80> auronandace: I just opened up a new Terminal window.  I can't get online with my Linux box either.  the auto etho is broken somehow.  so can I just describe to you all the option that do not say "none"?
[15:57] <tucemiux_> oCean, so just  add-apt-repository ppa ppa_key?
[15:57] <sid_> iszak, i've not the slightest idea but it does seem to be working. i just upgraded from 3.06. quite a leap eh
[15:57] <andantino> i have flash installed but when i try to watch youtube videos it says i need the flash plugin
[15:57] <oCean> tucemiux_: nope, the add-apt-repository works like so:  (example to add gwibber ppa)  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[15:57] <auronandace> mtnman80: how many /dev/sd... do you have there?
[15:57] <GameBoy> Hi.. any one know xchat room for web related questions?
[15:57] <pepito> #ubuntu-uk
[15:58] <sid_> auronandace, should i not be using it?
[15:58] <sid_> DustyMonk_, ok thanks let me give that a try
[15:58] <auronandace> !info firefox lucid | sid_
[15:58] <sid_> andantino, i'm getting the same problem. i have it installed but it still says you need to upgrade
[15:58] <oCean> tucemiux_: to just add a key for a ppa you already added to your sources, save the key as blahblah.asc, then run   sudo apt-key add blahblah.asc
[15:58] <tucemiux_> oCean, im going to read the link but I wished someone would just show me how to add the key signature already and case closed !
[15:58] <andantino> strange huh sid
[15:58] <GameBoy> Hi.. any one know xchat room for web related questions?
[15:58] <andantino> works fine on my other laptop
[15:59] <sid_> andantino, i reinstalled lucid. it was working fine before that.
[15:59] <mtnman80> auronandace: no "/dev/sd ... " showing.  there is /dev/sr0 on /cdrom type iso9660 (rw)...and then "/dev/loop0 on /rofs type squashfs (rw)
[15:59] <tucemiux_> oCean, save the key signature where?
[15:59] <ironhalik> Hello, how can I find out, which kernel module corresponds to a device in lsusb?
[15:59] <oCean> tucemiux_: anywhere you like, say /tmp
[15:59] <butcherbird> andantino: if you go to about:plugins  in Firefox addressbar it shows flash?
[15:59] <mtnman80> auronandace: that's all the /dev .... 's" we got ...
[15:59] <tucemiux_> oCean,  ok, ill try it, thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:59] <ironhalik> or otherwise, how can I disable particular, internal USB device from loading
[15:59] <sid_> auronandace, i installed it using but it's still refusing to let me use it
[15:59] <GameBoy> guys please help.. need something urgent...  any one know xchat room for web related questions?
[15:59] <auronandace> mtnman80: ok, try: sudo fdisk -l
[15:59] <purplefool> my hard drive is recognized by ubunut but i cannot get it to mount.  any help would be appreciated!
[16:00] <mtnman80> auronandace: no result.  It just moves to a new command prompt ...
[16:01] <andantino> i dont see adobe flash just flash
[16:01] <andantino> i wonder if it has something to do with the new firefox
[16:01] <mtnman80> auronandace: I know the name of the hard drive (/dev/sda1) ... if that matters ...
[16:01] <auronandace> mtnman80: ah, good
[16:01] <tucemiux_> oCean, no valid OPenPGP data found o.O
[16:02] <GameBoy> @andantino.. is it working in chrominum?
[16:02] <mtnman80> auronandace: but it's not showing in any of these screens, of course ...
[16:02] <andantino> ill have to dl chromium
[16:02] <andantino> i just installed ubuntu
[16:02] <auronandace> mtnman80: next we make a mountpoint: sudo mkdir /mnt/whateveryouwanttocallit
[16:02] <andantino> brand new laptop here gameboy
[16:02] <oCean> tucemiux_: in that case the key is probably not downloaded / saved properly. What ppa are we talking about?
[16:03] <GameBoy> andantino: oh i see.. could you see that in the ubuntu software central? try removing and adding again.. i remember facing this issue once
[16:03] <andantino> will do gameboy
[16:03] <sid_> GameBoy, i've tried the same several times. doesn't seem to work.
[16:03] <andantino> it installs automatically now
[16:03] <sid_> what's the best browser for ubuntu? or rather the most hassle free?
[16:03] <andantino> so perhaps i have to reinstall with the new release to firefox
[16:04] <MichaelFindlay> Firefox comes built in :)
[16:04] <auronandace> sid_: chromium works well for me
[16:04] <MichaelFindlay> but I use chrome
[16:04] <GameBoy> sid_: i used to use firefox.. but now chromium
[16:04] <GameBoy> sid_: coz in windows also i use chrome so...
[16:04] <mtnman80> auronandace: I entered in sudo mkdir mnt/dev/sda1 ... and it spits back tellin gme that it cannot creat the directory ... 'mnt/dev/sda1': No such file or directory ...
[16:04] <andantino> chromium is speedy
[16:04] <GameBoy> sid_: love chrome
[16:04] <tucemiux_> oCean, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/synce/ubuntu your_ubuntu_version main
[16:04] <cgroza> mtnman80: you forgot the root "/"
[16:04] <auronandace> mtnman80: thats because /mnt/dev/ doesn't exist: 1 directory at a time
[16:05] <lordjj> andantino, chrome/chromium are definetely fastest
[16:05] <andantino> safari is nice on windows
[16:05] <mtnman80> cgroza: ??? it goes where in that phrase, then?
[16:05] <auronandace> mtnman80: also what cgroza said: you need the / at the beginning
[16:05] <andantino> i think its a bit faster than chrome
[16:05] <escott> mtnman80, mkdir -p will create parent directories as needed
[16:05] <lordjj> andantino, the built-in firefox 3.6 is low on resource use, but chrome/chromium are much faster
[16:05] <cgroza> mtnman80: shouldn't it be "/mnt/......" ?
[16:06] <auronandace> mtnman80: sudo mkdir /mnt/blahblah
[16:06] <GameBoy> lordjj: will chromium do an auto update everytime?
[16:06] <cgroza> mtnman80: without the "/" at the begginig it will create a mnt relative to your current directory.
[16:07] <GameBoy> andantino: dont browse much of the html5 sites hence no Safari :)
[16:07] <mtnman80> auronandace: ok.  entered in "sudo mkdir /mnt/dev".  It must have worked, because it just went to the next command prompt?
[16:07] <lordjj> GameBoy, no, almost nothing autoupdates, but if you add the ppa, u it can automatically detect when updates are available n u can easily install through synaptic package manager
[16:07] <oCean> tucemiux_: so the easiest way would be:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:synce/ppa
[16:07] <auronandace> mtnman80,: good, now do: cd /mnt/dev/
[16:07] <GameBoy> lordjj: thanks.. a manual intervention everytime.. haah
[16:08] <andantino> im still having shaky mouse pointer probs here :(
[16:08] <auronandace> mtnman80: then do: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/dev
[16:08] <GameBoy> lordjj: could you please throw some light on ppa
[16:08] <lordjj> GameBoy, you get to choose, instead of it choosing for you ;)
[16:08] <tucemiux_> oCean, thanks!  If I read the link you gave me earlier it will show me how im supposed to find the name of the ppa to use for other ppa's??? "synce/ppa"??
[16:09] <lordjj> GameBoy, well, a ppa, or a Repository is a source for downloadable software packages
[16:09] <oCean> tucemiux_: actually, if you read here https://launchpad.net/~synce/+archive/ppa you can follow the instructions
[16:09] <GameBoy> lordjj: software centre?? rite?
[16:09] <alex-> Is moonlight as evil as silverlight when it goes to privacy?
[16:09] <oCean> tucemiux_: you can browse/search ppa's at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[16:09] <oCean> tucemiux_: ^including how to install
[16:09] <tucemiux_> oCean,  I just needed help adding the PPA
[16:10] <tucemiux_> oCean, thanks for the link!
[16:10] <GameBoy> alex: i know i am not giving you the right answer.. i believe the end of mooonlight/silverlight has begun! So no worries :)
[16:10] <lordjj> GameBoy, the software centre only shows you software that can be downloaded from the ppa's that are already in your source list. You can see ur ppa's by going: System> Administration >Software Sources
[16:10] <mtnman80> auronandace: got it.  when I enter in "sudo mount /dev/sda1" after entering "cd /mnt/dev .... it tells me "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[16:10] <alex-> GameBoy: what do you mean?
[16:10] <tucemiux_> I dont have "Software Sources" on my distro, im using ubuntu studio o.O
[16:10] <auronandace> mtnman80: and you are sure that is your linux install on the harddisk?
[16:10] <alex-> tucemiux_: you have
[16:11] <alex-> tucemiux_: update manager > settings > software sources
[16:11] <lordjj> GameBoy, try this: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:11] <lordjj> GameBoy, open a terminal and type that in
[16:11] <mtnman80> auronandace: I thought you said it would work using a live CD.  I said previous that I only have one for 9.10 that works ...
[16:11] <Sidewinder1> Snot really a problem but I was wondering, why, occasionally when I mount external esata/usb hard drives (through Places-->Mount 1TB Filesystem) two instances of Nautilus opens with the associated directory structures. It only happens about 30% of the time and seems to be totally random. (10.04 i386 desktop)
[16:11] <alaing> hi I installed coldfusion and the default admin pages were placed in /var/www. I have moved out the folder and stuck it into /opt/ in my apache2 config I included this config file http://pastebin.com/Gw33ABy7 but when it go to the admin pages i get 403 errors
[16:11] <lordjj> GameBoy, make that: sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:11] <GameBoy> alex: i mean silverlight/moonlight will be replaced by html5 soon.. microsoft itself is using html5 instead of silverlight..
[16:11] <sid_> auronandace, GameBoy i somehow liked firefox more for how it displayed content but had to start using chrome because it was so much faster
[16:11] <mtnman80> auronandace: so I need the live CD for 11.04?
[16:12] <tucemiux_> alex-,  ahhh there it is!  They hid it very well, thanks !
[16:12] <auronandace> mtnman80: it should have worked if the partition exists
[16:12] <alex-> GameBoy: i know, but i need it for watching a movie forschool
[16:12] <alex-> for school *
[16:12] <sid_> any reason why i should upgrade to 11.10 next week?
[16:12] <lordjj> GameBoy, blah, I meant: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    :P
[16:12] <auronandace> mtnman80: launch gparted
[16:12] <mtnman80> auronandace: so there has to be a partition on the hard drive for 9.10 and one for 11.04?
[16:12] <GameBoy> lordjj: :-)
[16:13] <andantino> hmmmm flash not working with chromium either
[16:13] <auronandace> mtnman80: no, just your 11.04  (you are running 9.10 from livecd)
[16:13] <Sidewinder1> lordjj, WADR, it should be "gksudo gedit." :D
[16:13] <mtnman80> auronandace: I am pretty darn sure Natty is on the hard drive, so ...
[16:13] <lordjj> Sidewinder1, difference?
[16:13] <GameBoy> lordjj: i sources.list is empty
[16:14] <auronandace> mtnman80: can you launch gparted
[16:14] <lordjj> GameBoy, that can't be right, it must have opened a new document coz it ddnt find it
[16:14] <mtnman80> auronandace: how would I run this from terminal if it is inherently exists with 9.10?
[16:14] <Sidewinder1> lordjj, Again, with respect, have a look here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[16:14] <auronandace> mtnman80: gksudo gparted
[16:15] <GameBoy> lordjj: my bad... typed the name wrongly!
[16:15] <sid_> GameBoy, chromium won't run flash either
[16:15] <GameBoy> lordjj: what next.. opened sources.list
[16:15] <Sidewinder1> lordjj, As an aside, if one wants to really mess up the program use sudo with FF...
[16:15] <mtnman80> auronandace: I have it up ... and it already tells me that there are no devices detected.  How do we get it to detect the hard drive?
[16:16] <donavan01> anyone know if I can use a standard PCI wifi card on a powermac G5 if I were to run ubuntu as the OS?
[16:16] <lordjj> GameBoy, well in here you can see where all your software downloads come from
[16:16] <lordjj> GameBoy, if you want to add another source you can it it here
[16:16] <auronandace> mtnman80: that is a big problem, you definitely have some sort of hardware issue if you are sure the harddrive is in and it isn't being detected
[16:17] <lordjj> GameBoy, if you want I can give you the chrome and chromium ppas to add in there
[16:17] <GameBoy> lordjj: yes please...
[16:17] <oololaoo> hi
[16:17] <mtnman80> auronandace: even from a live CD of 9.10 ... even though 11.04 is on the hard disk?
[16:17] <Sidewinder1> lordjj, I'm not sure why anyone would ever want to open FF with root privileges; just sounds like a bad idea, to me.
[16:17] <auronandace> mtnman80: yes, it should detect it
[16:18] <lordjj> Sidewinder1, I never said that. And yeah it does sound bad.
[16:18] <GameBoy> sid_: could you try a reinstall... i still have  faced that issue.. but dont remember what i did next.. i think i did a reinstall
[16:18] <lordjj> GameBoy, one sec...
[16:18] <GameBoy> lordjj: sure...
[16:18] <delinquentme> umm how is it that you launch a program from a terminal ... but allow the terminal to be killed w/o shitting down the program?
[16:18] <delinquentme> shutting!
[16:18] <mtnman80> auronandace: ok.  I still really appreciate your efforts here.  What would you suggest next?
[16:18] <DJones> !screen | delinquentme
[16:18] <auronandace> mtnman80: you said it was a t43? maybe the harddrive is dying or the motherboard has something wrong with it
[16:19] <delinquentme> DJones, I thought it was a tag added to the command within the command line though
[16:19] <mtnman80> auronandace: it's gotta be one of the two.  I might just have to take it on somewhere I have them look at it ... and at least get my data off of there ...
[16:19] <oololaoo> i try to move launcher on the down side of screen which is on the left side. I tryied to change it in compizconfig and nothing change.What can be wrong?
[16:19] <DJones> delinquentme: I thinm there is, I'm just used to using screen
[16:19] <auronandace> mtnman80: the next thing i would try is putting the harddrive in another thinkpad, see if it detects it
[16:20] <mtnman80> auronandace: or maybe they have a way of accessing an ext4 drive in Windows ..
[16:20] <mtnman80> auronandace: I don't really have another Thinkpad available.  Just the one ...
[16:20] <ubuntu__> A chuj wie.
[16:20] <oololaoo> no co ty
[16:20] <delinquentme> DJones, apprently a "Launcher" works just as well .. thanks !
[16:20] <auronandace> mtnman80: i wouldn't use windows to access the ext partition
[16:21] <ubuntu__> wciepujecie na Windows?
[16:21] <andantino> hmmm got flash working
[16:21] <GameBoy> Do we have ubunAmp??LOL just like winamp.... just curious.. always loved winamp. Missing it on windows.
[16:21] <GameBoy> andantino: how??
[16:21] <auronandace> mtnman80: do you have an external harddrive caddy (you could put the harddrive in that)
[16:21] <os1ris> how to I tell if my install is 64bit or 32bit
[16:21] <os1ris> ?
[16:22] <blackstar> I have issues using vpnc gnome plugin can anyone help me ?
[16:22] <andantino> whay worked for me was downloading the apt version of flash from the adobe upgrade page
[16:22] <lordjj> GameBoy, for Chromium, open a terminal and type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily
[16:22] <GameBoy> andantino: i tried that but didnt work.. then i installed from ubuntu software center i believe. anyway... happy right... :)
[16:23] <andantino> yup
[16:23] <andantino> now i still wonder if i can make my mouse pointer less shaky. its not actually that bad, very minimal movement, but if i can make it better i will
[16:23] <mtnman80> auronandace: so if it is not a good idea to access an ext thumb drive in windows, I have no Internet capabilities on my Linux box to upload anything to online storage, and I don't have an external hard drive ... I guess I could dry getting back into 11.04 the regular way again ... and putting all my pictures onto the 16GB thumb drive ... all the system files on the other thumb drive ... or burn at least everything besides the pictures
[16:23] <andantino> i tried using gpointing settings but that made it worse
[16:24] <GameBoy> lordjj: done... what next?? i couldnt find an entry in sources.list
[16:24] <lordjj> GameBoy, try opening synaptic package manager and looking for chromium
[16:24] <andantino> ive noticed that certain touchpads which have the shaky problem on ubuntu work fine with fedora
[16:24] <mtnman80> auronandace: if I were to purchase another thumb drive, it needs to be a FAT32 drive for it to be read in both Windows and Ubuntu?
[16:24] <os1ris> Can anyone assit me on how to tell if i am running a x64 bit or x32 bit ubuntu install.  Uname -a give me something i am not sure about..
[16:25] <edbian> os1ris: What's it say?
[16:25] <auronandace> mtnman80: i hope you find a way to get the data you need off it; at least this experience has taught you the value of backing up your data (you likely won't make that mistake again)
[16:25] <mtnman80> auronandace: no doubt :)
[16:25] <auronandace> mtnman80: yeah, fat32
[16:25] <intok> In Gnome fallback mode how do I get a script for "root-nautilus-here" like I could in Gnome2 using this script pack? http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/125-nautilus-scripts-to-simplify.html
[16:26] <os1ris> it says :  Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:18:14 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux  ... It has i686 and 386 so i dont get what oen to go off of
[16:27] <edbian> os1ris: well it is weird that it says i686 twice and i386 once but all of that is 32 bit
[16:27] <edbian> os1ris: Do you have a multiple processor motherboard or something?
[16:27] <os1ris> yea right.. So what do I go off of
[16:27] <mtnman80> auronandace: well ... I guess there's not much we can do ... given the situation.  I think we've exhausted all option.  Thanks for you help again, though really.  Valiant effort :)
[16:27] <os1ris> its a laptop but it appears to have too
[16:28] <auronandace> mtnman80: your welcome
[16:28] <os1ris> cpuinfo from proc shows 2
[16:28] <GameBoy> lordjj: you there?
[16:28] <os1ris> so could be dual core or ht chop
[16:28] <lordjj> GameBoy, yeah whatsup
[16:28] <os1ris> err chip... Just want to run some software on here but want to know what to run...
[16:28] <GameBoy> lordjj: how do i get this update for chromimun -> http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20117619-264/chrome-extension-enables-remote-computer-control/
[16:28] <os1ris> So what do you think they are both 32bit or u think i am running x64bit os?
[16:28] <edbian> os1ris: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:29] <edbian> os1ris: I think it's all 32 bit
[16:29] <os1ris> Can i PM you with it .. so idont spam?
[16:29] <edbian> os1ris: sure
[16:29] <edbian> os1ris: or use this: paste.ubuntu.com
[16:29] <lordjj> GameBoy, it looks like just a plugin so install chrome then click on the link in the article to install the plugin
[16:29]  * edbian wishes everyone was as cautious about spam as os1ris is
[16:30]  * auronandace agrees
[16:30] <lordjj> GameBoy, are you able to install Chromium now?
[16:31] <intok> In Gnome fallback mode how do I get a script for "root-nautilus-here" like I could in Gnome2 using this script pack? http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/125-nautilus-scripts-to-simplify.html
[16:31] <DustyMonk_> GameBoy: i didn't follow, what's the prob? i use chromium
[16:31] <GameBoy> lordjj: yes.. thanks.... it worked like a charm...
[16:32] <GameBoy> DustyMonk_: lordjj was helping me to set up chrome autoupdates..
[16:32] <freb> Hi! I have about 400 folders with about 300 files in each folder. I want to copy all the .jpgs in those folders and subfolders (I know there are about 1100 of them) to a new location. Any ideas as to how that can be accomplished?
[16:33] <lordjj> GameBoy, alright then so just visit this link inside chromium: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gbchcmhmhahfdphkhkmpfmihenigjmpp to add the plugin you wanted. A plugin I'd recommend for chromium/chrome is Adblock
[16:33] <GameBoy> lordjj: thanks lord...
[16:35] <alaing> hi I installed coldfusion and the default admin pages were placed in /var/www. I have moved out the folder and stuck it into /opt/ in my apache2 config I included this config file http://pastebin.com/Gw33ABy7 but when it go to the admin pages i get 403 errors
[16:35] <alaing> what am i doing wrong?
[16:35] <FloodBot1> alaing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:35] <DexterF> hi
[16:36] <DexterF> would like to run a gl app in the live system on nvidia-glx -  that possible?
[16:36] <DexterF> i installed nvidia-glx (185 on a 8800gtx) , restarted X, get an error msg
[16:37] <GameBoy> lordjj: any opensource programs to convert Sony HD videos to h.264 (iPad compatible)
[16:37] <DexterF> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[16:37] <cyclist_2> ganhei!!
[16:37] <tensorpudding> GameBoy, maybe try arista?
[16:38] <GirlyGirl> DexterF: How did you install it
[16:39] <DexterF> GirlyGirl, well, i ran aptitude to install nvidia-glx
[16:39] <lordjj> GameBoy, try looking here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideo
[16:41] <fdge> alaing: for 'DirectoryIndex /index.cfm' I think you just want 'DirectoryIndex index.cfm'
[16:41] <alaing> fdge i'll give that a try
[16:41] <fdge> when you put the "/" in front it means the root folder
[16:41] <ubuntu__> what are some of the causes why a hard drive would not be recognized in ubuntu...or better, was recognized but suddenly stopped being recognized
[16:42] <intok> In Gnome fallback mode on Ubuntu 11.04 how do I get a script for "root-nautilus-here" like I could in Gnome2 using this script pack? http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/125-nautilus-scripts-to-simplify.html Using this old script pack I still get the password prompt but nothing happens after that
[16:42] <fdge> i.e. http://example.com/index.cfm not /mycftools/index.cfm
[16:42] <Sidewinder1> It's not really a problem but I was wondering, why, occasionally when I mount external esata/usb hard drives (through Places-->Mount 1TB Filesystem) two instances of Nautilus opens with the associated directory structures. It only happens about 30% of the time and seems to be totally random. (10.04 i386 desktop)
[16:44] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, Hardware (disk) failure or bad connection?
[16:44] <lordjj> freb, I have a way for you
[16:44] <mothy> hi
[16:44] <freb> lordjj: thanks, I got this however: find /media/Elements/recovered/ -type f -name '*.[Jj][Pp][Gg]' -exec cp {} /home/ubuntu/Desktop/jpg/ \;
[16:45] <freb> whereas the first path i the toplevel folder and the second path is where to move the jpgs :)
[16:45] <mothy> can anyone talk in the #mysql channel?
[16:45] <lordjj> freb, exactly
[16:45] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, but it seems to fluctuate between recognition and no recognition...been restarting and getting different readings.
[16:45] <freb> lordjj: :-)
[16:45] <alaing> fdge:  thanks looks a bit more promising. I'm now getting Could not find the ColdFusion component or interface CFIDE.adminapi.security.
[16:45] <mothy> i need help setting up mysql and php
[16:46] <OerHeks> mothy maybe you need to register ?
[16:46] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, Internal or external? Filing system NTFS/ext3/ext4?
[16:46] <mothy> OerHeks: i registered, otherwise i couldn't talk in here
[16:46] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, internal sata using ext4
[16:46] <alaing> fdge: which maybe because i moved the admin folder. any experience with coldfusion?
[16:47] <fdge> not one bit
[16:47] <alaing> is there a coldfusion channel?
[16:47] <gedO> Hello, I need help with skype. Skype starts up whene I log in. I'm using Kubuntu, maiby someone help me?
[16:47] <fdge> google?
[16:47] <alaing> thanks for your help fdge
[16:47] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, And, have you tried accessing it through System-->Administration--<Disk Utility?
[16:48] <fdge> np
[16:48] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, am using boot disk atm, but will try that now
[16:49] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, so, in disk utility my hard drive is listed...but i cannot access it.
[16:50] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, Have you 'mounted' it within Disk Utility?
[16:50] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, when doing a benchmark i get an input/output error
[16:50] <xannen> is beta2 the last stage before "release", for ubuntu development etc?
[16:50] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, That's not good. :-(
[16:50] <GirlyGirl> xannen: No RC is
[16:50] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, lol! that was exactly my thought!
[16:51] <xannen> GirlyGirl,  thanks.
[16:51] <alaing> how do i search for a file from command line?
[16:51] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, How old is the drive? And how have you been using, in the past?
[16:51] <DustyMonk> alaing: with find or locate
[16:52] <lordjj> alaing, find <directory> -name \*\<filename>\*                 can work
[16:52] <iwaka_> Hello everyone! Just installed Ubuntu and I have a question regarding drive partitioning (I couldn't find an answer in the manuals either). Is partitioning really necessary? I deleted Windows and have only Ubuntu on an unpartitioned drive, is it necessary for me to partition the drive? Is it too late?
[16:52] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, dive is about a year old and been using it for work (papers and charts) and for some games
[16:52] <alaing> while I'm trying to find neo-runtime.xml
[16:53] <alaing> I'm not sure what directory its located in. i need to find it and edit it
[16:53] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: yes, linux installation is based on partitioning
[16:53] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, using a self-test now to see what the prob is
[16:54] <iwaka_> DustyMonk, so what would partitioning give me in comparison with an unpartitioned install? And can I partition the drive now, after I installed Ubuntu?
[16:54] <lordjj> alaing, then use "/" as directory if its in the ubuntu filesystem, or the path of another partition/hardisk
[16:54] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: during install, you will be asked to partition
[16:54] <lordjj> alaing, you can just drag a folder into the terminal to have its path there
[16:54] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, says "disk has a few bad sectors"...must be in boot area.  how would i correct that?
[16:55] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, With random I/O errors it sounds like impending failure; time to back-up and then replace or hope for the best. Earlier I was checking out new int. HDs at Newegg, they are relatively inexpensive. I just wish I had some extra "scratch", lyin' around; never hurts to have an extrs drive around.
[16:55] <alaing> lordjj: i'm using ubuntu so i'll use /. i'm using putty to connect to my machine
[16:56] <iwaka_> DustyMonk: I didn't partition the drive during the installation, should I reinstall the whole system from scratch, or can I repartition after having completed the installation?
[16:56] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: you cannot install without partitioning
[16:56] <iwaka_> eerrr... I just did, apparently. Unless i'm missing something...
[16:57] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: perhaps you did not see it happen
[16:57] <alaing> busy running find / -name neo-runtime.xml
[16:57] <alaing> lordjj: ^
[16:57] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, "A few bad sectors" is usually not some thing to be overly concerned about, that being said, with random I/O errors, I'd still back-up and start looking for a new drive
[16:57] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: type mount|pastebinit and paste it here
[16:57] <lordjj> alaing, go for it :P.  You  can use /
[16:58] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, nuts! just when i was getting a handle on finances!  is there a way to "block" the bad sectors?
[16:58] <alaing> lordjj: whats the difference between find and locate?
[16:59] <intok> In Gnome fallback mode on Ubuntu 11.04 how do I get a script for "root-nautilus-here" like I could in Gnome2 using this script pack? http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/125-nautilus-scripts-to-simplify.html Using this old script pack I still get the password prompt but nothing happens after that
[16:59] <lordjj> alaing, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/wat-is-main-difference-between-find-and-locate-command-422796/
[16:59] <alaing> lordjj: thank you for your help much appreciated
[16:59] <Guest32791> hi all
[16:59] <Guest32791> anyone here?
[17:00] <lordjj> Guest32791, there are about 1533 people here
[17:00] <SideSW1PE> about xD
[17:00] <SideSW1PE> - 3 bots = 1530
[17:00] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, The filesystem usually takes care of that automatically and segregates those 'bad sectors'. Personally my current drive has had the same bad sectors for many months; as long as they don't start increasing, I guess it's OK, but one can never be absolutely certain.
[17:00] <SideSW1PE> enough that you dont need to ask :D
[17:01] <iwaka_> DustyMonk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704527/
[17:01] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, guess my real question is why can i not boot the drive now?
[17:01] <afief> is there some ISO I can download that contains multiple DEs? I want my friend to be able  to switch between Gnome, Unity and KDE before commiting to one
[17:02] <Guest32791> hi all may i ask a question? i have a problem
[17:02] <lordjj> afief, you can manually download kubuntu-desktop, and xubuntu-desktop in ubuntu all u'll be able to use whichever u want
[17:03] <afief> lordjj: I meant from a life CD
[17:03] <afief> or live dvd
[17:03] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, Besides, chk out the cost of new internals, they are not that expensive; in terms of why it's not booting, I can't really answer that, sorry. :-(
[17:03] <lordjj> Guest32791, just go for it :)
[17:03] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: i see no /home, no root and no swap, so it is not installed
[17:03] <ubuntu__> Sidewinder1, ok, thx for your help...got me into some other ideas.
[17:04] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: did you use wubi?
[17:04] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, My pleasure, I just wish I could've helped more. :D
[17:04] <iwaka_> DustyMonk: I created a USB drive and installed Ubuntu, replacing the system completely
[17:05] <Guest32791> thanks lordjj, i connect to the internet using a wireless lan, i have this problem that for certain websites i get directed instead of the website I want to see to the wireless lan splash page, this happens with both firefox and chrome, it wasn't always the case, i used to be able to access those sites, but one by one it happened over time, any idea?
[17:05] <Guest32791> i tried clearing cache of both firefox and chrome, but it hasn't solved the problem
[17:05] <iwaka_> DustyMonk: I used wubi before, but not during this install.
[17:05] <lordjj> afief, just download xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu iso's and make 'em cds, easiest way, unless u don't wanna download too much. U could also use live usb drive with kubuntu/xubuntu-desktop installed on it
[17:06] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu__, You might also ask in #hardware, or is it ##hardware ? I forget.
[17:06] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: looks very strange to me
[17:06] <lordjj> Guest32791, is your router or ISP blocking them?
[17:07] <iwaka_> DustyMonk: The installation did not prompt me to partition the drive, perhaps that is the source of this... problem
[17:08] <Guest32791> no i don't think it's blocking them, i used to be able to access them, it doesn't say they're blocked, it just shows up the splash page of the wireless lan
[17:08] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: i dont know what this is: fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon
[17:08] <lordjj> Guest32791, well usually the splash page would have a "retry" link. If not, what exactly does it say?
[17:08] <iwaka_> DustyMonk: I only installed the system yesterday, there can't be any trash here...
[17:09] <edbian> Can I modifying an existing (broken) ln -s ?? Do I have to delete it and create a new, correct one?
[17:09] <Guest32791> lordjj, see, how this started is that sometimes i lost connection, so instead of getting to the site, the splash page would show up, now though it shows up every time i try to get to those sites even though the connection isn't lost
[17:09] <theadmin> edbian: Yeah
[17:09] <DustyMonk> iwaka_: kindly repeat your initial question, maybe someone else can help
[17:10] <edbian> theadmin: yeah I have to delete it?
[17:10] <theadmin> edbian: yep.
[17:10] <lordjj> Guest32791, i'm not i understand what you mean, can you screenshot the page and upload it, for example here: www.uloadr.com
[17:10] <theadmin> edbian: Actually, not just delete, "unlink" it
[17:11] <Guest32791> so previously when i'd lost connection i'd be able to click connect on the splash page and then get through to the sites i'd wanted, but now there's no connect 'cos all there's on the splash page is disconnect as it's already connected
[17:11] <edbian> theadmin: What does that mean?
[17:11] <vlt> Hello. When logging in to Ubuntu 11.04 the first time I get a message that my hardware doesn't support Unity and Ubuntu will fallback to Gnome. Any idea why?
[17:11] <iwaka_> I installed Ubuntu but did not partition the drive. Should I partition it, and if so, how should I do it? I'm NOT using dual-boot, just Ubuntu.
[17:11] <iwaka_> DustyMonk: thank you very much for your help :)
[17:11] <edbian> iwaka_: It is impossible to install ubuntu without at least creating an ext4 partition so unless you already had one you 're-partitioned'
[17:11] <theadmin> edbian: Use the unlink command to remove it
[17:12] <iwaka_> edbian: what would 're-partitioning' mean in that case?
[17:12] <edbian> that deletes it
[17:12] <ubuntu__> iwaka_, use gparted...but to do that you need to use the boot disk so the drive is unmounted
[17:12] <theadmin> edbian: Yeah, except "unlink" is safer, cause rm might, under some circumstances, remove the link target, not only the link
[17:13] <edbian> iwaka_: If you install ubuntu and you don't have a ext4 partition you must create one.  This usually means shrinking other partitions.  That would be 'repartitioning'
[17:13] <edbian> theadmin: ahh, thanks
[17:13] <lordjj> Guest32791, well appart from clearing all cache and cockies from "the beginning of time" I dnt know :/
[17:14] <edbian> haha, cockies
[17:14] <w30> vlt, what video card do you have?
[17:15] <iwaka_> edbian: I somehow managed to install ubuntu while at the same time completely avoiding anything that involves partitioning. Unless the installer partitioned the drive for me automatically, I believe I'm still sitting with and unpartitioned drive. But then again, I'm clearly missing something.
[17:15] <lordjj> edbian, haha, laughed at it myself
[17:15] <edbian> iwaka_: Did you install using wubi?   Did you start the install while running windows?
[17:15] <edbian> iwaka_: In that case the drive is not partitioned
[17:16] <iwaka_> edbian: I installed from a USB drive, replacing Windows completely.
[17:16] <Guest32791> lordjj is there a cross-browser thing in ubuntu, like a cache or a url router of some sort, that i need to clear?
[17:17] <edbian> iwaka_: Then you re-partitioned  (especially if windows is gone, that means you must have deleted those partitions!)
[17:17] <OerHeks> iwaka_, open terminal, typ: sudo fdisk -l    ( and you should see your partitions )
[17:17] <dfgsgfd> Fresh installation of Ubuntu 11.10 (RC). Installed proprietary driver for the graphics card. Rebooted. Worked. Yet it still says "No proprietary drivers installed". Any idea why?
[17:17] <w30> vlt, what video card do you have?
[17:18] <OerHeks> dfgsgfd, als in #ubuntu+1 for support 11.10
[17:18] <mtnman80> can anyone help me quickly format a thumb drive from ext4 to FAT32 with using Terminal commands?  Or I guess I can do it in Disk Utility ...
[17:18] <vlt> w30: I don't know. It's an older Asus notebook.
[17:18] <iwaka_> /dev/sda1   *           1       38653   310473728   83  Linux
[17:18] <iwaka_> /dev/sda2           38653       38914     2095105    5  延伸的
[17:18] <iwaka_> /dev/sda5           38653       38914     2095104   82  Linux 交換區/ Solaris
[17:18] <lordjj> Guest32791, at least I don't know about it :P
[17:18] <vlt> w30: Maybe Intel GXXX?
[17:18] <OerHeks> iwaka_, looks all right to me
[17:18] <scwizard> this page says "Tomcat 6.0.24 contains a critical bug. Please use 6.0.32 instead."
[17:19] <edbian> iwaka_: don't do that, use this: paste.ubuntu.com
[17:19] <scwizard> so I'm wondering why is topcat 6.0.24 the latest version in whatever repository I'm using?
[17:19] <iwaka_> OerHeks: So it is partitioned after all?
[17:19] <nicolas> Quelqun peut m'indiquer les canal en français
[17:19] <nicolas> ??
[17:19] <OerHeks> yes, automatic with the best config for your pc
[17:19] <iwaka_> edbian: I'm sorry, will do that.
[17:19] <edbian> iwaka_: I don't speak Chinese so it's hard to tell
[17:20] <iwaka_> edbian: the Chinese in the 2nd row says 'extended'
[17:20] <Guest32791> well thanks lorjj :-)
[17:20] <iwaka_> edbian: I believe the one before Solaris is 'swap'
[17:21] <edbian> iwaka_: There are no windows partitions on that drive.  You must have 're-partitioned' them away :)
[17:21] <w30> vlt, either your video chip,card won't support the 3d requirements of Unity or you need a propriatary driver for a Nvidia or a ATI card
[17:21] <iwaka_> edbian: well, in that case, i believe Ubuntu did the work for me :)
[17:21] <iwaka_> thanks for your help everyone!
[17:22] <OerHeks> iwaka_,  have fun  !
[17:22] <edbian> iwaka_: It's possible.  It does give some simple high level partitioning choices such as 'replace windows' and 'install alongside windows'
[17:22] <edbian> sure
[17:22] <iwaka_> edbian: I chose 'replace' :)
[17:22] <syslq> Btw, how can force unity login after I have installed nvidia drivers? Under normal session on laptop I still get gnome 2.x?
[17:22] <w30> vlt, in a terminal type lspci | grep VGA and see what that says
[17:22] <edbian> iwaka_: then it repartitioned (cause you told it to)
[17:22] <edbian> haha
[17:22] <scwizard> so is there a repository that will give me the latest version of tomcat 6?
[17:22] <scwizard> or will I need to compile it from source?
[17:22] <edbian> I think we just wasted some time determining that you clicked that :)
[17:23] <Sidewinder1> !fr > nicolas
[17:24] <vlt> w30: Thank you. I'll try as soon as I use that machine again.
[17:25] <fredicco> hi im new to freenode how do i get into #cyanogenmod
[17:25] <vlt> fredicco: Type "/join #cyan..."
[17:25] <fredicco> yeah dont work
[17:25] <scwizard> asdf yeah it's not there: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/java/
[17:26] <OerHeks> scwizard, tomcat6 is in the repo;s >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat6
[17:26] <fredicco> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[17:26] <fredicco> what it is saying
[17:26] <mtnman80> what commands do I run in terminal to convert a ext4 thumb drive to FAT32 format?
[17:26] <Cpudan80> fredicco: you need to register your nick, /msg nickserv help register
[17:26] <vlt> fredicco: That you need to be identified with services (freenode).
[17:27] <theadmin> mtnman80: You can't convert them, you can only reformat
[17:27] <dfgsgfd> How to get into Ubuntu Classic or that 3D cube thing?
[17:27] <mtnman80> theadmin: OK.  then can help me quickly reformat it.  Then I will have all my data saved and accessbile in Windows.  The Linux box is otherwise "toast", as we know :)
[17:27] <lordjj> dfgsgfd, 3D cube thing is a Compiz effect, install compiz
[17:28] <fredicco> yeah im a noob cpudan80 cant figure out how to register
[17:28] <mtnman80> theadmin:  would be able to help me do that?
[17:28] <Cpudan80> fredicco: if you type that command you'll get a message from Nickserv with instructions
[17:28] <dfgsgfd> What about Classic?
[17:29] <mtnman80> theadmin: is the terminal command as follows (?): mkfs -T vfat /dev/sdb1 ???
[17:29] <lordjj> dfgsgfd, not sure what that is. If you mean the "Classis" look in Ubuntu 11+, u pick that on login screen
[17:29] <theadmin> mtnman80: the t isn't supposed to be capital
[17:29] <w30> vlt, to install propriatary drivers you need to enable propriatary drivers in repository check box and then in system admin additional drivers try one that they list
[17:29] <fredicco> i did that dont really understand
[17:30] <mtnman80> theadmin: ok.  but that is the right command to reformat it to FAT32?
[17:30] <theadmin> mtnman80: Yes, you also need sudo
[17:30] <mtnman80> theadmin: gotcha.  here we go.  it should work ...
[17:30] <scwizard> OerHeks: ok, so how do I tell my Lucid Lynx to grab the shiny Oneiric Ocelot tomcat 6.0.32 ?
[17:31] <crash1hd> Can anyone tell me why both of my ubuntu installs 11.04 lock up when inserting CD or DVD?
[17:31] <OerHeks> scwizard, not.
[17:31] <crash1hd> 2 machines same issue
[17:31] <theadmin> crash1hd: Probably some big udev/automount problem
[17:31] <scwizard> OerHeks: so if I want tomcat 6.0.3x on LL then I compile from source?
[17:31] <mtnman80> theadmin: ok.  I have to unmount it first, or ... ???
[17:32] <crash1hd> theadmin, any idea how to fix?
[17:32] <theadmin> mtnman80: Naturally.
[17:32] <theadmin> crash1hd: Just report a bug, cross your fingers and hope for it
[17:32] <OerHeks> scwizard, yes, else you wait 4 days to recieve Oneiric 11.10
[17:32] <mtnman80> theadmin: sudo umount /dev/sbd1, then?
[17:32] <theadmin> mtnman80: Yep.
[17:32] <scwizard> Oneiric isn't LTS :(
[17:33] <Zzzzzzz> hi room
[17:33] <Zzzzzzz> any one konw channel for Wowza discussion?
[17:33] <scwizard> alrighty, thanks
[17:34] <mtnman80> theadmin: golden.  I think it worked.  This is turning out better than I thought!  All right !!!
[17:34] <crash1hd> theadmin, hmm there is nothing I can try like reinstalling or adding somethinng to fstab? cause I mean I was able to install ubuntu via cd
[17:34] <theadmin> crash1hd: No idea, really, if we could get some logs on wtf is happening when you insert a CD, dmesg perhaps...
[17:36] <Zzzzzzz> any one konw about wowza ?
[17:36] <Parsind> what about it?
[17:36] <mtnman80> THANKS SO MUCH GUYS !!!  It's been a long morning.  My Linux box is officially dead, but my data has been saved (all of it I believe).  Good deal!
[17:37] <brainwave92> Official Arch support channel?
[17:37] <theadmin> brainwave92: #archlinux, lol
[17:37] <crash1hd> theadmin, hmm it seems that pastie.org does not like text larger then 64k
[17:38] <theadmin> crash1hd: Try pzt.me, I always use that one... And we don't need all of it, just the parts which happen after you insert the cd
[17:39] <Parsind> will there be an ubuntu for smartphone?
[17:39] <crash1hd> theadmin, ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/704541
[17:39] <doran> anybody know anything about ardour ? the ardour channel sucks
[17:40] <brainwave92> thanks theadmin :)
[17:40] <crash1hd> theadmin, sorry that it is the whole thing but I have no idea where to look
[17:40] <Parsind> will there be an ubuntu for smartphone/tablets?
[17:41] <purplefool> does anyone know how to access a disk with an input/output error?  i need to access it to transfer the data to a new one
[17:41] <puff> I have a thinkpad t520, running ubuntu 10.4 LTS.  I've only been using the wireless, so far, but now I need to get the ethernet working so I can configure a new router.
[17:41] <theadmin> brainwave92: Arch rocks, but seriously read the wiki before ever heading to IRC, it has answers to *everything*
[17:41] <escott> purplefool, use dd and pass it the ignore io errors flag
[17:42] <purplefool> escott, what is dd?
[17:43] <puff> I'm not sure what the problem is;  I plug the cat5 cable into my laptop and the other end into the router, I have green lights on both ends, but I don't see a conneciton. "sudo ifconfig -a" only shows me wlan0, which I *think* is the wireless.
[17:43] <escott> purplefool, its a low level disk copy tool. you will need to make an image of the fs to another working piece of hardware and then try to fsck/mount that image
[17:43] <theadmin> crash1hd: It looks normal, unless I missed something (it's huge)
[17:43] <crash1hd> theadmin, it is huge and no it looks normal to me too
[17:44] <crash1hd> what I do find interesting though is that the cdrom is there in computer but I am not able to unmount or eject the tray from it
[17:44] <purplefool> escott, do i need to download this tool or does it come with the install disk.  i am using the boot disk to get at least to here.
[17:44] <brainwave92> theadmin, right now my arch isnt booting up, after an install onto an external hard disk
[17:44] <escott> purplefool, its on virtually any linux system out there
[17:45] <theadmin> brainwave92: Duh. Do you have the "usb" and "usbinput" hooks in your /etc/mkinitcpio.conf?
[17:45] <puff> purplefool: dd makes a bit-for-bit image of the drive, so if you have say 50GB, it's going to create a 50GB file, even if only 30GB s in use.
[17:45] <crash1hd> theadmin, also shouldnt there be something in the fstab?
[17:45] <theadmin> crash1hd: No, CD-ROMS aren't static
[17:46] <theadmin> brainwave92: "usb" should come right after udev
[17:46] <purplefool> escott, the problem is that, even though disk utility sees the drive, ubuntu cannot access it in any way.  would dd still be able to copy it?
[17:46] <escott> purplefool, should be something like "dd noerror if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/workingdrive/folder/bad_drive.img
[17:46] <brainwave92> theadmin, may i pm you?
[17:47] <theadmin> brainwave92: Sure thing.
[17:47] <escott> purplefool, if disk utility can see it then dd should be able to copy it
[17:47] <jiltdil> Hi webcam using cheese show greenish pic. HOw to fix this
[17:47] <escott> purplefool, im assuming you have checked the smart status of the disk and identified it was failing
[17:48] <jiltdil> any one have idea?
[17:49] <purplefool> escott, actually, it is not really "failing" but i cannot boot from it anymore and the only information i get is an input/output error
[17:49] <fritsch> jiltdil: click on effects
[17:49] <jiltdil> ok
[17:49] <fritsch> jiltdil: an select left top corner
[17:49] <fritsch> jiltdil: no effects
[17:49] <jiltdil> fritsch, ok
[17:50] <fritsch> jiltdil: okay again? i think you had the "hulk effect" enabled :-)
[17:50] <escott> purplefool, if the hardware *is* failing the smart status should say so. if the smart status is not it possible its just corrupted and you need to fsck it
[17:51] <purplefool> escott, ok, how do i fsck it?
[17:51] <jiltdil> fritsch, thanks
[17:51] <jiltdil> fritsch, hm not working yet
[17:51] <escott> purplefool, sudo fsck /dev/sdX#
[17:51] <barcef> How can I tell gnome to use all the CPUs available? When I compress stuff, CPU 1 & 2 are tied up with the compression, gnome gets slow. Why can't gnome use cpu 3 & 4?
[17:51] <jiltdil> fritsch,  other effects woork but when clicking to no effect it is not working
[17:52] <MrSassyPants> [185357.202055] software-center[15144]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f5a63808e44 sp 00007fff6f76c890 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f5a6377d000+17a000]
[17:52] <MrSassyPants> I get a ton of segfaults like that in various processes in X
[17:52] <fritsch> jiltdil: open totem
[17:52] <escott> barcef, it will use all the cpus. slowness may be caused by disk io, or it might not be a true 4 core system and you could be having hyperthreading issues
[17:52] <jiltdil> fritsch, ok
[17:52] <MrSassyPants> its ubuntu server 64 10.04 lts
[17:52] <jiltdil> fritsch,  now
[17:52] <fritsch> jiltdil: Edit - Preferences
[17:53] <fritsch> Frozenball: Display
[17:53] <fritsch> Frozenball: click: reset to defaults
[17:53] <purplefool> escott, this is what i get: e2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
[17:53] <purplefool> fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda
[17:53] <purplefool> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[17:53] <fritsch> jiltdil: click reset to defaults
[17:53] <barcef> escott, ok.. thanks.. let me check that out
[17:53] <fritsch> jiltdil: try cheese again
[17:53] <jiltdil> fritsch,  done
[17:53] <purplefool> oops...that didn't work well
[17:54] <jiltdil> fritsch, thanks it worked but why this problem arises
[17:54] <jiltdil> fritsch, as i have not mess with totem
[17:54] <escott> purplefool, make sure you are trying to fsck the correct partition number
[17:54] <sburjan`> where cna I see the syslog file ?
[17:54] <fritsch> jiltdil: i don`t know - do you have an nvidia card?
[17:54] <fritsch> jiltdil: and did some stuff in nvidia-settings?
[17:54] <escott> sburjan`, /var/log
[17:54] <jiltdil> fritsch, ya i have nvidia but i didn't do any config there
[17:54] <george> Hey guys. I have a question. I intend to replace my hdd and I want to know if this will somehow screw the bios.
[17:55] <purplefool> escott, disk utility doesn't have a partition set up for this disk, though i know it has partitions
[17:55] <Frozenball> fritsch, :C
[17:55] <fritsch> Frozenball: sorry, blind typo ...
[17:56] <fritsch> jiltdil: okay, so you have a workaround for now :-)
[17:56] <jiltdil> fritsch, hm thanks
[17:56] <escott> purplefool, well thats the problem. if you remember the partition structure you can try to restore it, or you can use testdisk which can sometimes identify old partitions. its best to work off a disk image if you are going to screw around with restoring partition tables
[17:56] <richard_> hi - i'm having a bit of trouble with apache & user permissions... could anyone help me please?  trying to give apache access to /home/username/sitename rather than /var/www...  i've updated the document root but it all 403's now...
[17:56] <DalekBot>  anyone interested in a ython irc client
[17:56] <dee-dee> george: I have done that countless times and with no problems.
[17:57] <george> dee-dee: really? oh, that's nice!
[17:58] <DalekBot>  awesomesauce
[17:59] <purplefool> escott, testdisk doesn't work with ext4...grrrr!
[18:01] <atari_314> Hey, anyone knows where can I find more doc. about: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core ?
[18:02] <escott> purplefool, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1376383
[18:02] <Zzzzzzz> what is wowza admin panel ?
[18:02] <omghelp> guys I accidentally disabled unity and I can't do anything except open a file browser
[18:06] <GirlyGirl> omghelp: How did you disable unity?
[18:06] <GirlyGirl> omghelp: Try running unity --reset
[18:09] <Yeloass> hello all
[18:09] <raven> ffmpeg stops with cycling the cpu to 100% [mpeg @ 0x9863380] Invalid timestamps stream=0, pts=5939, dts=4294962435, size=6124
[18:10] <omghelp> girlygirl how do I open terminl througn a file browser
[18:10] <GirlyGirl> omghelp: Press CTRL + ALT + F1
[18:11] <Lithos84> omghelp: Install nautilus-open-terminal
[18:12] <omghelp> girlygirl k ran unity --reset
[18:12] <urlin2u> GirlyGirl, a TTY ?
[18:12] <GirlyGirl> omghelp: now go back with CTRL + ALT + F7
[18:12] <mongy> raven: try compiling a newer ffmpeg
[18:13] <luis_> I downloaded a game and it won't let me uninstall or remove it. any suggestions?
[18:14] <zoldar> Hello, I'm looking for an application targeted and small children - a sort of a lock screen which allows some sort of interaction, like freehand drawing with mouse/pointing device and input from keyboard - is there anything like that available?
[18:14] <zoldar> s/and/at
[18:14] <escott> omghelp, if you ctrl-alt-f1 you might need to "export DISPLAY=:0" before running unity --reset
[18:14] <urlin2u> !details | luis_
[18:15] <GirlyGirl> escott: No, he is not launching unity from there just setting config
[18:15] <GirlyGirl> zoldar: Maybe an image editor program
[18:16] <zoldar> GirlyGirl: the point is, it has to have ability to lock access to the rest of the desktop environment
[18:17] <raven> gpodder 2.14 how to disable left-click-menu?
[18:17] <omghelp> girlygirl how do I exit the cntl alt f1 terminal
[18:17] <lamah> hi all
[18:17] <lamah> i have The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:17] <lamah> for libreoffice only
[18:17] <GirlyGirl> omghelp: CTRL + ALT + F7
[18:17] <lamah> i can't install libreoffice?
[18:17] <lamah> how?
[18:17] <lamah> aptitude not helps
[18:18] <Lithos84> lamah: What is your Ubuntu version?
[18:18] <lamah> final
[18:18] <GirlyGirl> lamah: post the exact output on pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:18] <omghelp> girlygirl kudos for solving my issue
[18:19] <lamah> Lithos84: no i am with debian:)
[18:19] <GirlyGirl> omghelp: You're welcome
[18:19] <lamah> GirlyGirl: debian
[18:19] <GirlyGirl> lamah: Go to #debian then
[18:19] <GirlyGirl> lamah: This is an ubuntu channel
[18:19] <lamah> #debian is dead
[18:19] <lamah> ubuntu are debian based
[18:19] <GirlyGirl> lamah: its not However this channel is for Ubuntu support only
[18:20] <lamah> i don't think so but i understand
[18:20] <lamah> ok
[18:20] <family> ????
[18:21] <purplefool> escott, been reading the webpage you sent...very interesting. can use testdisk, but don't know if the partition table type is "intel" or "efi gpt"
[18:21] <family> what is it?
[18:22] <escott> purplefool, if the disk is >3TB it is gpt, if it is a mac it is gpt, if it is an efi system its probably gpt, otherwise it is likely dos partition type (intel) unless you changed it
[18:22] <under> Hi. I cant run rosetta. ./boincmgr: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:23] <purplefool> escott, just did a plain old install with ubuntu using ext4...
[18:23] <purplefool> escott, using 64bit and less then 3tb
[18:24] <n8w> hey
[18:24] <omghelp> girlygirl is there a way I can enable rotate cube in compiz without disabling unity?
[18:24] <escott> purplefool, then it is most likely dos partition type, although since you evidently deleted your partition table it shouldn't matter that much
[18:24] <n8w> does any of u have been experiencing cpu freq lock(800Mhz in my case) in 11.04?
[18:25] <purplefool> escott, actually, i didn't delete it, it just stopped working, but will try with intel
[18:25] <raven> gpodder 2.14 how to disable left-click-menu?
[18:25] <n8w> i understand it has smth to do with the "on demand" policy, but i dont get why it locks it on the lowest freq
[18:26] <w30> zoldar, maybe create a new user, remove the panels, put up one or two kids application icons and no logout buttons,etc. and you could just switch user to that user if you had to leave your desk.
[18:26] <purplefool> escott, lol! have a read error with no other explanation...
[18:28] <puff> Hm, I'm on 10.4 LTS, kernel puff@redbitter2:~$ dmesg, folks tell me some of my
[18:28] <puff> 7>[290988.290362] CPU1 attaching sched-domain:
[18:28] <puff> [290988.290364]  domain 0: span 0-1 level SIBLING
[18:28] <puff> [290988.290366]   groups: 1 (cpu_power = 589) 0 (cpu_power = 589)
[18:28] <puff> [290988.290369]   domain 1: span 0-6 level MC
[18:28] <puff> [290988.290371]    groups: 0-1 (cpu_power = 1178) 2-3 (cpu_power = 1178) 4-5 (cpu_power = 1178) 6
[18:28] <FloodBot1> puff: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <coffeecup01> uec
[18:30] <coffeecup01> wheres the bzr channel
[18:31] <escott> purplefool, i would make a disk image with dd prior to using testdisk
[18:31] <escott> purplefool, otherwise you may only have one chance to restore the partition table
[18:32] <purplefool> escott, hmmm...a little late now. testdisk is trying its magic.  will either jump for joy or drawn in sorrow in about an hour.
[18:35] <coffeecup01> Im trying to build and bundle a vm and load it to my UEC cloud, I installed BZR and found branch for VM Builder and Automated EC2 builds but not really sure how to get them to work correctly
[18:35] <sherorox> hi I have a problem with my software center when I click install, or remove the button blinks and doesnt do anything. natty 11.04
[18:36] <puff> I'm on ubuntu 10.4 LTS, kernel 2.6.32-34-generic.  I've been trying to troubleshoot an ethernet problem, folks are telling me that 34-generic is bit old and that upgrading to 35-generic or newer might help.  Is it feasible to do this without doing a major upgrade?
[18:37] <Kleik> Hello
[18:37] <Kleik> I just have updated my ubuntu
[18:37] <Kleik> and my wifi disconnect itself always
[18:37] <blackstar> can openldap send email for failed logins ?
[18:38] <GirlyGirl> Kleik: Please explain more
[18:39] <puff> Is there a better channel to ask this sort of question?
[18:40] <GirlyGirl> puff: Yes it is possible and this is the correct channel
[18:40] <puff> Kleik: Give us your hardware details, also the details of your router.
[18:40] <Kleik> I update my ubuntu to 11.04
[18:40] <GirlyGirl> !enter | Kleik
[18:40] <puff> Kleik: You don't happen to be running dd-wrt, do you? I had some problems with that.
[18:40] <MsEvilEyes> server irc.bondage.com
[18:40] <Kleik> puff: I don't know
[18:41] <escott> puff, the version number after the minor should not be a significant change
[18:41] <GirlyGirl> puff: The router?
[18:41] <puff> GirlyGirl: Yah.
[18:41] <puff> GirlyGirl: ubuntu and dd-wrt don't play well together.
[18:41] <GirlyGirl> puff: I used it in the past .. no more on my new router and it worked
[18:43] <Herbert-40> bin ich drin :-)
[18:44] <qmanjr5> Hey uh, could someone help me add a podcast to Banshee? I
[18:44] <qmanjr5> can't find a direct URL to it.
[18:44] <puff> GirlyGirl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607064
[18:45] <sherorox> hi I have a problem with my software center when I click install, or remove the button blinks and doesnt do anything. natty 11.04
[18:45] <puff> Kleik: You would only be running dd-wrt if you or someone you know went to great lengths to install it on your router.  Dd-wrt is an aftermarket, open source router OS.
[18:46] <knightrage> hey guys. trying to encode an audio stream into mp3 from a video. i'm getting this error: Encoder (codec id 86017) not found for output stream #0.0 .. i have installed the libmp3lame-dev package. using natty. thoughts? also tried using acodecs libmp3lame, liblamemp3 and get an 'unknown encoder'
[18:47] <Kleik> My card is intel 5100
[18:47] <Kleik> wifi card
[18:47] <knightrage> nm, got it. needed a different package
[18:48] <xharx> suddenly my xubuntu is running without sound. where can I determine the reason
[18:48] <puff> I'm running ubuntu 10.4 LTS.  My wired network jack does not seem to work.  'sudo ifconfig -a' only shows lo and wlan0, nothing else.
[18:50] <sherorox> hi I have a problem with my software center when I click install, or remove the button blinks and doesnt do anything. natty 11.04
[18:50] <escott> puff, if its not appearing at all check the output of lspci and try to identify the chipset
[18:50] <GirlyGirl> puff: Post output for lspci
[18:50] <lok> hi all! is there a way to disable the default x-term?
[18:51] <subr00t> hi there!
[18:51] <escott> lok, why? you could uninstall xterm
[18:51] <puff> GirlyGirl: dmesg: http://paste.linuxassist.net/215787
[18:52] <subr00t> after installing the nvidia driver, i cant log on with unity or eaven ubuntu classic, just with (no effect)!! any idea?
[18:52] <puff> GirlyGirl: It wans't showing in lspci, then  some googling suggested it needed module e1000e so I did 'sudo modprobe e1000e' and now lspci shows: 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Device 1502 (rev 04)
[18:53] <puff> GirlyGirl: Full lspci:  http://paste.linuxassist.net/215788
[18:54] <brainwave92> how to view size of a /dev/sd* device?
[18:54] <sherorox> hello, there seems to be a problem with my software center application. For example, if I click install on an application I want, there is no response. the same goes for 'remove'
[18:55] <escott> brainwave92, parted, gparted, /proc/partitions, df
[18:55] <brainwave92> sherorox, why dont you run it from a terminal and see what messages appear when you click on install and remove?
[18:55] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: does apt-get work?
[18:55] <brainwave92> escott, thanks
[18:55] <puff> GirlyGirl: Oh, it's a thinkpad t520, btw.
[18:55] <brainwave92> escott, no its an install which is not loading and i'm stuck on a ramfs shell, having no access to gparted or parted
[18:56] <brainwave92> df and /proc/partitions i still need to check
[18:56] <sherorox> brainwave92: sorry I am not very familiar with the command line. how do I run it from there?
[18:57] <emerson> hello, sameone speak Portuguese ?
[18:57] <escott> !br | emerson
[18:57] <sherorox> girlygirl: I have a .jar application that I want to open/run/install but I read somewhere that I need java
[18:58] <puff> GirlyGirl: Should wired still be eth0 on ubuntu 10.4?
[18:58] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: I asked if apt-get works?
[18:59] <emerson> tks for all, bye !
[18:59] <brainwave92_> sherorox, my net got disconnected
[18:59] <sherorox> girlygirl: how do I check
[19:00] <sherorox> brainwave92: how do I run it from the terminal
[19:00] <david_> 1
[19:00] <brainwave92_> sherorox, first try what GirlyGirl told you
[19:00] <sid_> is it a good idea to install gnome 3 on 10.04?
[19:00] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: open terminal
[19:00] <brainwave92_> try sudo apt-get install <program>
[19:00] <sherorox> girlygirl: ok
[19:00] <iceroot> sid_: no
[19:01] <sid_> iceroot, you say that because?
[19:01] <iceroot> sid_: it will break your system, its not supported, its pulling gtk3, it will make gnome2 not usable anymore
[19:02] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: Does it work?
[19:02] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[19:02] <aar> Hi, does anyone know any affordable, linux-compatible usb flash drives with hardware encryption?
[19:02] <sid_> iceroot, oh i see. anyway, what version are you running?
[19:02] <iceroot> sid_: 11.10 with lxde
[19:02] <sherorox> girlygirl: yes, so is it a GUI problem with software center then?
[19:03] <rypervenche> aar: Use any kind of flash drive. You can encrypt it with LUKS.
[19:03] <sid_> iceroot, great. i was wondering if it was worth upgrading to 11.10
[19:03] <iceroot> aar: make your own encryption software ased
[19:03] <aar> rypervenche, I want hardware encryprion so I can use it in a broad range of OS without installing software
[19:03] <iceroot> sid_: not now, its unstable, for 11.10 see #ubuntu+1
[19:03] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: I presume
[19:03] <aar> iceroot,  I want hardware encryption so I can use it in a broad range of OS without installing software
[19:03] <sherorox> girlygirl: is there a way to fix that?
[19:03] <brainwave92_> sherorox, you can try seeing what exactly IS the problem
[19:04] <brainwave92_> open terminal
[19:04] <sherorox> k
[19:04] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: use an alernative like synaptic, file a bug report for soft center
[19:04] <iceroot> aar: ? the os needs software to encrypt it, doesnt matter if hardware based or software-based
[19:04] <tomos> howdy all
[19:04] <sid_> iceroot, of course after the stable version is released but what's your take on it? 10.04 is good enough for my use but just because i haven't seen the newer ones i was thinking of upgrading. is it too much of a hassle or do able?
[19:04] <aar> iceroot, check out ironkey, or integral 360.
[19:04] <iceroot> sid_: #ubuntu+1
[19:05] <aar> iceroot, my problem is ironkey costs more than a new liver and integral is OS-specific.
[19:05] <sid_> iceroot, thanks :)
[19:05] <iceroot> sid_: and remeber this important sentence "never touch a running system"
[19:05] <sander_> How do I upgrade from one distro to another?
[19:05] <brainwave92_> sherorox, before filing a bug report, see what the problem is!
[19:05] <sid_> iceroot, haha i couldn't agree more
[19:05] <iceroot> aar: as we said, use software-based encryption
[19:06] <iceroot> !upgrade | sander_
[19:06] <brainwave92_> sherorox, type in software-center
[19:06] <linxeh> is there an svgalib based RDP client ?
[19:07] <aar> iceroot, as i said, i don't want to install new software every time i take my freaking pen drive to my cousin's house and plug it into his BSD, my friend's mac, or aunt tilley's windows.
[19:07] <sherorox> brainwave92: ok I got some operation not supported and g object failed and ugly things
[19:07] <sherorox> brainwave92: but software center did open
[19:07] <raven> how to display foldersize?
[19:08] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: Exactly what error msg
[19:09] <iceroot> aar: then buy a hardware-based solution. whats your question?
[19:09] <aar> iceroot, Hi, does anyone know any affordable, linux-compatible usb flash drives with hardware encryption?
[19:09] <rypervenche> aar: You are looking for a solution that does not exist. Your options have already been stated.
[19:09] <sherorox> girlygirl: shero@ubuntu:~$ software-center /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/app.py:1191: Warning: g_object_set_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed   self.window_main.show_all() 2011-10-08 15:06:35,148 - softwarecenter.fixme - WARNING - logs to the root logger: '('/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/zeitgeist/client.py', 367, 'reconnect_monitors')' 2011-10-08 15:06:35,147 - zeitgeist.client - INFO - Reconnected to Zeitge
[19:10] <iceroot> aar: i told you hardware-encryption based need also software on the os site
[19:10] <aar> rypervenche, ironkey do one that is linux compatible. my problem is that it's too expensive. i thought perhaps someone knew of a cheaper valid alternative. of course it exists.
[19:10] <sherorox> girlygirl: and when I pressed install on one of the apps in software center I got another error, want me to send it?
[19:10] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: yes
[19:10] <iceroot> aar: you need software on windows, mac, bsd, linux, unix and so on
[19:10] <aar> iceroot, no point in starting an argument. read up on ironkey's on the fly hardwar eencryption. thanks.
[19:10] <sherorox> girlygirl: 2011-10-08 15:10:32,568 - softwarecenter.backend - WARNING - _on_trans_error: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.97'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[19:10] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do I get GDM to show me the login screen via VNC?
[19:12] <Drakhar> Installing Ubuntu to a laptop I'm planning on using to develop Android app/ROMs/kernels on, what would be the best way to parition the hard drive?  Primary as ext4 with another logical drive as fat32?
[19:12] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do I get GDM to show me the login screen via VNC?
[19:12] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: its a bug ... enter that output in the report
[19:12] <iceroot> aar: the webpage says that it is working with 2.6.x
[19:12] <iceroot> aar: so the software-part you need (and i am talking about) is build into 2.6 kernel
[19:13] <sherorox> girlygirl: that sucks, it was actually working before I restarted
[19:13] <aar> iceroot, great, sure, you were right, thanks
[19:13] <iceroot> aar: so as i said, you need software on os site (which is already build into the kernel)
[19:14] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: maybe an update broke it try closing it then  ALT + F2 "gksu software-center"
[19:14] <ricko77> Helle in here. I have problems using the terminal window because i don't understand the program itselves.
[19:15] <iceroot> ricko77: you dont unterstand the terminal or the bash?
[19:15] <Generale_Russo> god day to all of you
[19:15] <ricko77> iceroot: That must be the terminal
[19:16] <sherorox> girlygirl: doing it with gksu works
[19:16] <sherorox> girlygirl: am I going to have to do that every time?
[19:16] <Generale_Russo> i have a small "problem" with Xubuntu, last release, just tweaking the computer for my mother, but i found that i can't really make the Xfce4-Panel save the shortcuts i put in them
[19:16] <iceroot> ricko77: whats your exact question about "gnome-terminal"?
[19:16] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: temporary workarround I guess
[19:17] <sherorox> girlygirl: what does gksu do
[19:17] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: kind of like run as admin in windows
[19:18] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: Try deleting the temporary files of software center of your user maybe that will help
[19:18] <sherorox> girlygirl: how?
[19:18] <th0r> Generale_Russo: those are saved in ~/.config/xfce4/panel  Make sure the ownership of those directories and files are correct
[19:18] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: Ask someone else on how to find the files ... I don't use soft-center as I am a KDE user
[19:18] <ricko77> I should install a HP printer witch is a printer, scanner and a copymachine. I have an install CD but only for Windows, so now after downloading the program i should install the program.
[19:19] <Generale_Russo> ack, i guess it can be done only by terminal, isn't it?
[19:19] <sherorox> girlygirl: o thanks though.
[19:19] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: You're welcome
[19:21] <ricko77> But i'm not much for using the Terminal if i don't understand how the program itselves works or what it does.
[19:22] <sherorox> girlygirl: sorry 1 more thing. do youo know how to change a .deb to a .ipk?
[19:22] <Generale_Russo> yep, that's my problem
[19:22] <Lithos84> ricko77: If the program is a Debian package, you can install it without using the terminal.
[19:23] <Generale_Russo> i'm total crap on such thing, but this laptop isn't for me, is for my mother and i need to keep it just simple
[19:23] <Drakhar> I'm Installing Ubuntu to a laptop I'm planning on using to develop Android app/ROMs/kernels on, what would be the best way to parition the hard drive?  Primary as ext4 with another logical drive as fat32?
[19:23] <Generale_Russo> and i encountered only this problem for this
[19:23] <ricko77> Lithos84: I don't know if it is. Where can i find out that
[19:23] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: if the ipk file is for a different cpu architecture it will not work
[19:24] <Lithos84> ricko77: The file extension is .deb
[19:24] <Vorsaykal> Could anyone help me get my Dual Boot working? I installed Natty then Windows 7 and it only lets me boot into Windows 7 right now.
[19:24] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: Example ipk for an ARM based Meego on an Intel computer
[19:24] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Automatic_emulation_in_Ubuntu
[19:26] <ricko77> Lithos84: Here's the programs name i have downloaded: hplip-3.11.10.run
[19:26] <deostroll> hi. I kind of want to undo commands I've typed. They are mentioned here http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7606173&postcount=5
[19:26] <deostroll> The first one...
[19:26] <Vorsaykal> I tried following instructions on a thread to get Grub bootloader so I could use Natty and Win7 but when I typed the first thing they said "sudo grub" it gave me an error "sudo: grub: command not found"
[19:27] <Lithos84> ricko77: hplip is available on Ubuntu repositories. There's no need to downloading from somewhere else. In a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install hplip".
[19:27] <Suhel> I was wondering which is the best distro to use on a 528Ram computer?
[19:28] <iceroot> Suhel: if asking ubuntu-based. lubuntu is the answer
[19:29] <Suhel> iceroot: thanks, can I run most of the Ubuntu programs on Lubuntu?
[19:30] <iceroot> Suhel: you can run every program there, its just a different desktop, rest is the same
[19:30] <deostroll> hi. I want to undo this command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/704579/
[19:30] <ricko77> Lithos84: I think i need some form for course in Linux. I am totaly lost every time i need to install something. I think it's overwelming how difficult those simple tasks can be
[19:30] <Generale_Russo> oh cool
[19:30] <Generale_Russo> it worked
[19:30] <Generale_Russo> never expected it!
[19:30] <Suhel> iceroot: thanks mate, one last question. does Lubuntu also have the latest kernel?  :)
[19:31] <Suhel> ricko77: at first it looks complex, but the more you use Linux the more fun all those messy stuff becomes
[19:31] <Generale_Russo> thanks to Thor
[19:31] <iceroot> Suhel: its using the same kernel as ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu. as i said its all the same, just a different desktop
[19:32] <Suhel> iceroot: then I wont be able to load it on my laptop, unfortunately am struggling with the power bug. the workaround didnt work for me  :(
[19:32] <Lithos84> ricko77: To learn, take a look at ubuntuguide.org
[19:32] <iceroot> Suhel: what bug exactly?
[19:32] <ricko77> Suhel: That depends on how much patience you have and i am not patience.
[19:33] <iceroot> Suhel: on launchpad
[19:33] <Suhel> iceroot: just a second, I will just look my mails and tell you
[19:34] <Suhel> ricko77: but the Ubuntu software center installs almost any app without any problems
[19:34] <ricko77> Lithos84: I will look at that later
[19:34] <Generale_Russo> i was wondering: but on a modern computer, ubuntu would work the best with compatibility?
[19:35] <iceroot> Generale_Russo: depending on the hardware
[19:35] <Suhel> iceroot: bug# 760131
[19:35] <iceroot> #760131
[19:35] <Generale_Russo> well on a thing i'm sure, intel isn't digested really well on ubuntu eheh
[19:36] <ricko77> Okay i will try and see if Ubuntu Software Center & the guide can help me any further. So thanks for all of your help so far.
[19:36] <EDG> Hello
[19:36] <Suhel> ricko77: if you use SOftware center you wont need any guide
[19:37] <Suhel> ricko77: just search the software and click install, it will download and install the software within minutes
[19:37] <iceroot> Suhel: should be fixed in some days. fix is already uploaded and build into the dev-kernel
[19:38] <ricko77> Suhel: I will loook that through first then
[19:38] <Suhel> iceroot: but I read about it that they are not going to fix this bug as it would cause some hang up issues
[19:38] <Suhel> ricko77: Yup, am sure it will change your perspective :)
[19:38] <iceroot> Suhel: dont know, didnt follow the complete bug report
[19:38] <Generale_Russo> well thank you very much and see you another day!
[19:38] <courtney> im trying to send internet to my xbox 360 from my laptop that is connected to it via ethernet cord but the xbox doesnt pick up the internet? any one have an idea of what i should do
[19:39] <iceroot> !ics | courtney
[19:39] <Suhel> iceroot: I'm thinking of switching over to Meerkat. is it good (stable) enough?
[19:40] <mateobur> Hello
[19:40] <iceroot> Suhel: what version was it?
[19:40] <mateobur> my ubuntu one doesnt seem to be working in windows, is there a channel for ubuntu one?
[19:41] <BouerBouer> hey guys, trying to get my iPod synched through banshee and gtkpod but got a problem
[19:41] <BouerBouer> it's coming up as a digital camera on the system
[19:41] <BouerBouer> then not showing up at all on gtkpod or in banshee
[19:41] <BouerBouer> what's going wrong?
[19:41] <Dutch_> yo duidz
[19:41] <yeats> !one | mateobur
[19:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: what's wrong?
[19:41] <mateobur> thanks yeats
[19:41] <hansg01> chown -R $user:$user $home is the command correct?
[19:42] <BouerBouer> iPod not coming up in gtkpod or banshee, want to sync it
[19:42] <BouerBouer> and on the system it comes up as iPod, but as a digital camera
[19:42] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: what kind of ipod model?
[19:42] <iceroot> hansg01: seems correct
[19:43] <hansg01> iceroot: thanx
[19:43] <BouerBouer> generation 4
[19:43] <BouerBouer> latest one
[19:43] <Suhel_> got dc
[19:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: like ipod touch?
[19:43] <BouerBouer> yeah
[19:43] <yeats> !ipod | BouerBouer
[19:44] <BouerBouer> yeah ipod touch
[19:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[19:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: install the newest package
[19:48] <_e1_> hi ppl
[19:48] <_e1_> can someone help me with error I get after running latest flashplayerdebugger ?
[19:49] <_e1_> program runs, but still report this SSL error I've never seen before
[19:50] <_e1_> ERROR: flashplayerdebugger: Symbol `SSL_ImplementedCiphers' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
[19:50] <_e1_> help anyone ?
[19:50] <BouerBouer> okay thanks then when I do that it'll work?
[19:50] <BouerBouer> user?
[19:50] <deostroll> hi can any one help me with this: I need to poing /usr/bin/python to python2.6
[19:51] <deostroll> sorry *point
[19:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: if running newer firmware on your idevice, this lib package should enable communication between your ubuntu machine and your idevice.  just reboot your system after you install the package and then try your ipod again
[19:51] <BouerBouer> okay, how would I install it?
[19:52] <FreeWilly_> someone stole my nic
[19:53] <FreeWilly_> on a samba network share on my linux box, how do i set it to allow windows clients when opening the share to be able to add and delete, not just read?
[19:53] <hansg01> i used the command chown -R $USER:$USER $home but got an error missing operand after hans:hans
[19:54] <BouerBouer> Us3r_Unfriendly: how to install it
[19:54] <BouerBouer> ?
[19:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: add this ppa to your system:  "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa"  and then "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install libimobiledevice" (the newest package)
[19:56] <BouerBouer> okay
[19:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: my iphone 3g with firmware 4.2.1 works in ubuntu with this package
[19:57] <BouerBouer> okay thanks for the help :)
[19:57] <BouerBouer> wait
[19:57] <BouerBouer> couldn't find the package
[19:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: did you do sudo apt-get update?
[19:57] <BouerBouer> yeah
[19:57] <BouerBouer> doing it again
[19:58] <BouerBouer> still could't find package
[19:59] <linelevel> Hi. I'm having a problem where my wireless internet occasionally stops working (it drops the connection and can't reconnect, though it still shows the network in the list of SSIDs). Restarting the computer fixes this problem. Is there anything I can try, short of restarting the computer, that might fix this problem when it arises?
[19:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudo apt-cache search libimobile
[20:00] <linelevel> Us3r_Unfriendly: Is that to me?
[20:00] <BouerBouer> us3r just did that
[20:00] <BouerBouer> there's several packages but one is called libimobiledevice0
[20:00] <BouerBouer> is that the right one?
[20:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> linelevel: no it's for BouerBouer, but in your case...what method of installing the module/driver for your card did you do?
[20:01] <BouerBouer> there's a bunch with extentions like -dbg, -dev etc
[20:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> BouerBouer: install it
[20:01] <BouerBouer> okay thanks
[20:01] <linelevel> Us3r_Unfriendly: I'm pretty sure it worked out of the box. I don't think I installed any hardware driver for my wireless card.
[20:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> linelevel: what card/model do you have?
[20:02] <deostroll> hi can any one help me with this: I need to point /usr/bin/python to python2.6
[20:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> deostroll: ln -s ?
[20:02] <Parsind> anyone using ubuntu mint?
[20:03] <oCean> !mint | Parsind
[20:03] <bazhang> Parsind, mint support for that
[20:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> linelevel: what card/model do you have?
[20:04] <FreeWilly_> in my smb.conf file ive setup my share... with the property values writable = yes and readonly = no
[20:04] <linelevel> Us3r_Unfriendly: I just ran `lshw -html` and it shows my wireless card as "RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller".
[20:04] <FreeWilly_> however when accessing the shared drive from windows, pasting files within the share is denied
[20:04] <FreeWilly_> any ideas?
[20:08] <GirlyGirl> linelevel: Did this issue come recently?
[20:08] <BouerBouer> hey us3r just did all of that stuff
[20:08] <BouerBouer> no difference
[20:08] <BouerBouer> ipod still comes up as a digital camera
[20:08] <BouerBouer> and still doesn't show up in banshee or gtkpod
[20:08] <THE_GFR|WORK> any ideas how to get GDM to show up via VNC so you can login not after?
[20:09] <linelevel> GirlyGirl: It's been happening for a long time, actually. Since around when I upgraded from to 10.04 (when it was new), though I'm not confident enough in the timing to claim a causal link.
[20:09] <glassresistor> anyone had any luck with the microsoft touch mouse?
[20:10] <THE_GFR|WORK> anyhow know what I need to do to make GDM show up via VNC so I can login to the gui?
[20:10] <linelevel> GirlyGirl: I'm not hopeful about preventing the problem altogether. What I'm hoping is that someone can give me some command-line-fu that will fix the problem on the fly when it arises, so that I don't need to restart my whole computer and lose all my work.
[20:11] <GirlyGirl> linelevel: Maybe /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:12] <GirlyGirl> linelevel: or sudo ifdown -a followed by sudo ifup -a
[20:13] <linelevel> GirlyGirl: I'll give the first one a shot. As for the latter, doesn't that only work when the interface is managed by /etc/network/interfaces? I'm using NetworkManager to connect.
[20:13] <GirlyGirl> linelevel: Should still work
[20:14] <GirlyGirl> linelevel: not sure though
[20:14] <linelevel> GirlyGirl: Okay, thanks. The other suggestion I just got is: sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager restart
[20:14] <linelevel> GirlyGirl: Not sure if that still applies; It's from an Ubuntu mailing list from 2007.
[20:14] <anthonyl> linelevel hahah i c
[20:15] <anthonyl> u r n00b
[20:15] <bazhang> anthonyl, stop that
[20:15] <bl33d> Hiz, where can i choose / see what type of connection is my 3G USB stick modem using?
[20:16] <linelevel> anthonyl: yeah, I am :)
[20:16] <anthonyl> /etc/connectiontypes
[20:16] <BouerBouer> guys need help, trying to sync ipod on banshee, but it's coming up as a camera and not showing up at all in banshee, what's wrong?
[20:16] <GirlyGirl> linelevel: Not sure either seems weird though
[20:16] <anthonyl> gtg
[20:16] <Bularthip> Evening
[20:16] <Crockeo> Anyone have anything to talk about?
[20:16] <Bularthip> Well I'd need help
[20:16] <bazhang> !ot | Crockeo
[20:17] <Crockeo> Ah, sorry.
[20:17] <Crockeo> Bularthip, what's your question?
[20:17] <Crockeo> I'm relatively new but I could give it a shot.
[20:17] <Bularthip> Well I actually can't easilly tell it
[20:17] <Crockeo> Huh...
[20:17] <Crockeo> That's... a problem.
[20:17] <Bularthip> I can't do anything, I actually cant' see anything
[20:17] <FreeWilly_> anyone ever post a question on the samba channel?
[20:18] <bl33d> No such folder. :S
[20:18] <Crockeo> Huh...
[20:18] <KrazyKrivda> can anyone help me with turning on/off wifi for my laptop.  Need to know how to in terminal/
[20:18] <bl33d> So where can i see what type of connection is my 3G USB stick modem using?
[20:18] <Crockeo> Bularthip, have you restarted?
[20:18] <th0r> bl33d: the commands for configuring it are iwconfig and ifconfig
[20:18] <Crockeo> First thing with any problem in to restart.
[20:18] <Bularthip> When I boot up my PC, I will login normally into Ubuntu, but I can't see that application panel on the left, I can't open terminal, I can't exit, resize or move this IRC window
[20:18] <Bularthip> Yeah, I have
[20:19] <Crockeo> Huh...
[20:19] <Bularthip> Yeah
[20:19] <Crockeo> Maybe the GUI managers busted?
[20:19] <Bularthip> I'm pretty new on ubuntu but actually I didn't do anything to cause it
[20:19] <oCean> Crockeo: well, no. Huge amounts of problems don't require a restart to fix
[20:20] <th0r> Bularthip: if you log out, and at the login screen Sessions menu choose 'ubuntu classic' then try to log back in
[20:20] <Bularthip> Previously today I installed this umm... CCSM, I was just curious but never actually even opened it
[20:20] <Bularthip> Well I dunno how to logout as ctrl+alt+del doesn't show logout option
[20:21] <Bularthip> Somehow I'm excited of this, maybe I'll learn something new but still got shaky hands and panic :<
[20:21] <Dutch_> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2365/2281615012_6bb3f4b2ac.jpg
[20:21] <bl33d> th0r, okay, but that just gives me bunch of data, that does not (not to me) say anything about what is the current connection type in use (2g, 3g (one of them), or what :S
[20:22] <oCean> Dutch_: wrong channel
[20:22] <th0r> bl33d: sorry....that was for KrazyKrivda, too much traffic in too small a window <smile>
[20:22] <Dutch_> oCean: What channel then?
[20:22] <parco> any droid x users please pm me?
[20:22] <subr00t> I am using Ubuntu 11.04 with nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS card.With the latest nVidia driver can not able to start unity
[20:22] <subr00t> any idea?
[20:22] <oCean> Dutch_: no idea, but it has nothing to do with this channel's topic
[20:23] <Dutch_> :(
[20:23] <Dutch_> STO BULLYING MW
[20:23] <KrazyKrivda> th0r: power management: off
[20:23] <th0r> Bularthip: can you use Alt-Ctl-F2 to switch to a tty?
[20:23] <oCean> Dutch_: stop it
[20:23] <Bularthip> Yeah, I can, also tried it earlier but dunno how to get out of it :p
[20:24] <FreeWilly_> anyone, samba share, help plz
[20:24] <Bularthip> And as I earlier today installed ccsm, I removed it from tty but didn't help
[20:24] <th0r> KrazyKrivda: you can use those two commands to configure the wifi from the terminal
[20:24] <bl33d> th0r, Oh okay. No problem, but i would stil llike to know where can i see / select the connection type. :S
[20:24] <KrazyKrivda> th0r: i'm trying to figure out command simply to turn the wlan0 on, i see iwconfig interface power ... bnut seems to not work as I think
[20:25] <raven> gpodder 2.14 how to disable left-click-menu?
[20:25] <th0r> Bularthip: switch to another tty, then use 'sudo shutdown -r now' to force a reboot. That should put you at the login screen where you can switch to gnome (ubuntu classic). That will at least get you a working environment
[20:25] <Haematoma> How do I transform a ISO file to a bootable partition on a USB thumb drive?
[20:25] <Haematoma> an*
[20:25] <subr00t> please i need help, I am using Ubuntu 11.04 with nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS card.With the latest nVidia driver can not able to start unity
[20:25] <Bularthip> th0r, will do. We'll see if I can get back here :p
[20:25] <subr00t> ??
[20:25] <Haematoma> This would be done w/in Ubuntu
[20:26] <mdgeorge> hello
[20:26] <th0r> KrazyKrivda: I don't think the wifi card power is controlled by software. It is usually a switch on the laptop somewhere
[20:26] <mdgeorge> I know it's not standard, but I'm trying to use gnome-shell...
[20:27] <bazhang> Haematoma, unetbootin
[20:27] <mdgeorge> when I use fullscreen applications (i.e. games), the "applications" bar still appears
[20:27] <th0r> bl33d: sorry....never used any of the cell based units.
[20:27] <mdgeorge> does anyone know of a workaround?
[20:27] <KrazyKrivda> th0r: on my laptop I have the touch sensitive buttons that are blue (on) or orange (off) lights.. the light seems unresponsive though :-\
[20:28] <auronandace> mdgeorge: gnome3 isn't supported on 11.04, can't you wait for 11.10 to be released?
[20:28] <bazhang> mdgeorge, what version of ubuntu
[20:28] <Bularthip> th0r, nothing :o It rebooted, but nothing new happened
[20:28] <Haematoma> bazhang, thanks I'll check it out!
[20:28] <mdgeorge> 11.04
[20:28] <th0r> Bularthip: did it take you to a login screen, or do you have it set up to login automatically
[20:28] <bazhang> mdgeorge, wait 4 days get it in 11.10
[20:29] <mdgeorge> ah, ok
[20:29] <mdgeorge> I've been using it for quite some time, I didn't realize the next release was switching
[20:29] <bazhang> mdgeorge, the PPA for 11.04 is very unstable requiring a reinstall
[20:30] <mdgeorge> bazhang: hmm...I haven't had any problems.  Am I likely to when I upgrade?
[20:30] <heizmann> Hi everyboby. I've a little question concerning to an auto-mount of a file.img... Well, I'm using a luks format for this file, and I've got a file.key to decrypt this. So, manually, this sequence works (in root): losetup /dev/loop0 /path/to/my/cryptfile.img ; cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop0 hello --key-file=/path/to/my/file.key ; mount /dev/mapper/hello /my/mountpoint ;
[20:30] <Bularthip> Oh yea... lol. At loginscreen, where is it where I can switch to boot to gnome?
[20:30] <th0r> Bularthip: there should be a Sessions menu
[20:30] <heizmann> How to automatize this when I launch my laptop?
[20:30] <Bularthip> Well I'll go check again, just a second
[20:31] <auronandace> mdgeorge: you will need to reinstall, since installing gnome3 in 11.04 breaks things
[20:31] <optimus_> hello world
[20:31] <Wurstmensch> hallo optimus
[20:31] <srkdos> ...
[20:32] <optimus_> hey im completely new to irc
[20:32] <srkdos> spanish??
[20:32] <auronandace> !es | srkdos
[20:32] <Lithos84> !es | srkdos
[20:32] <srkdos> alguien habla español?
[20:32] <subr00t> I am using Ubuntu 11.04 with nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS card.With the latest nVidia driver can not able to start unity
[20:33] <subr00t> i've got the solution ;) back to 10.10
[20:33] <subr00t> nihahaha
[20:33] <subr00t> :/
[20:33] <Wurstmensch> :/
[20:33] <Bularthip> Yyup, got into Ubuntu Classic
[20:33] <alex-> Shall I buy a GTX470 or a 6850? 470 can better handle ubuntu i heard.
[20:34] <th0r> Bularthip: then you just have a problem with unity. Was it working originally, before you installed ccsm?
[20:35] <Bularthip> th0r Yes, zero problems before I had installed ccsm and first reboot after
[20:35] <Wurstmensch> alex-: i'd recommend renting a server. it handles ubuntu best
[20:35] <Bularthip> I never even got to open ccsm, just randomly decided to reboot PC hours later
[20:36] <heizmann> Nobody has an idea to solve my problem? :)
[20:36] <th0r> Bularthip: it is just a config issue I suspect. Unfortunately I don't use unity, running debian now. But someone here should be able to help. When you describe the problem, tell them unity was running fine until you installed ccsm, and that you made no changes using ccsm, and the problem showed up after the install when you rebooted.
[20:36] <helpdesk> @heizmann repeat...
[20:36] <guntbert> Wurstmensch: please stop giving random "advice"
[20:36] <helpdesk> was not on the channel
[20:37] <heizmann> helpdesk ok...
[20:37] <th0r> Bularthip: and let them know gnome is running OK now...just a problem with unity
[20:37] <heizmann> "Hi everyboby. I've a little question concerning to an auto-mount of a file.img... Well, I'm using a luks format for this file, and I've got a file.key to decrypt this. So, manually, this sequence works (in root): losetup /dev/loop0 /path/to/my/cryptfile.img ; cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop0 hello --key-file=/path/to/my/file.key ; mount /dev/mapper/hello /my/mountpoint ;"
[20:37] <heizmann> "How to automatize this when I launch my laptop?"
[20:37] <helpdesk> you can set it when you log in
[20:38] <helpdesk> try your .profile
[20:38] <helpdesk> put it at the end
[20:38] <helpdesk> this is untested advise though...
[20:38] <Bularthip> Okay then. Well I think I'll manage to use classic for a while, atleast I'm glad I finally can do something on my PC :p
[20:38] <parco> hi channel, any android users out there have a sec to quickly review my app, named Jarvis
[20:39] <helpdesk> @parco... apk?
[20:39] <guntbert> !ot | parco
[20:39] <parco> market.
[20:39] <KrazyKrivda> parco: what is the apk?
[20:39] <bazhang> parco, dont advertise
[20:39] <helpdesk> @bazhang. does this not count as debugging?
[20:39] <bazhang> helpdesk, no
[20:40] <parco> android runs on linux, i think so
[20:40] <parco> ;)
[20:40] <raven> how to mount/save unfinalized dvds?
[20:40] <bazhang> parco, you've been asked not to previously. stop.
[20:40] <KrazyKrivda> parco try #andriod-dev
[20:40] <heizmann> helpdesk: .profile is launch after the authentification when a session is opened... It cannot work...
[20:41] <helpdesk> your trying to get this to run before the LUKS filesystem is mounted?
[20:41] <helpdesk> or in the boot p
[20:41] <parco> KrazyKrivda, will do
[20:41] <helpdesk> @heizmann
[20:42] <heizmann> helpdesk: I wish my luks file mounts juste after the authentification (but, automatically)
[20:42] <heizmann> :)
[20:42] <guntbert> helpdesk: you dont need the @, just mentioning the nick of a person suffices
[20:43] <helpdesk> @heizmann i now understand the gravity of your request... wait one...
[20:43] <raven> how to mount/save unfinalized dvds?
[20:44] <alex-> Shall I buy a GTX470 or a 6850? 470 can better handle ubuntu i heard.
[20:44] <heizmann> helpdesk: (sorry, I'm french, bas English)... well, I have a luks file, well : /home/file_crypt.img :) is it ok?
[20:44] <fritsch> alex-: take the nvidia
[20:44] <alex-> fritsch: why?
[20:44] <raven> how to mount/save unfinalized dvds?
[20:45] <nn52> anyone know  about apache2 configuration?
[20:45] <fritsch> alex-: it has vdpau, it has the better driver, etc.
[20:45] <fritsch> alex-: full hd video offloading doable withouth nightmare, just install vlc or mplayer
[20:45] <heizmann> I have a /path/to/an/usbkey/file.key too, ok or not?
[20:45] <guntbert> nn52: #httpd is probably the better place for your question
[20:46] <helpdesk> its is post mount but... let me look at it for a sec @heizmann
[20:46] <Lithos84> !apache | nn52
[20:46] <nn52> Lithos84: not thanks.... lamp is not good choice.. :)P
[20:46] <Lithos84> nn52: OK.
[20:47] <heizmann> When Ihelpdesk :) thanks... (already looking for on the net during all the day, but nothing about this problem)
[20:49] <helpdesk> @heizmann before i get too far can you explain the purpose? encrypted removable?
[20:49] <hexacode> hey you guys  i cant install mysql ...apt-get cant even find the file  .... heres my /etc/apt/sources.list http://74.207.251.218/sources.list     and on the bottom is the error i get when i do a "sudo apt-get install mysql"
[20:49] <javier_> hi! Is it possible to upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 and then, to the final release when it's available?
[20:50] <bazhang> !final | javier_
[20:50] <helpdesk> @hexacode what version ubuntu?
[20:50] <andantino> oneiric comes out really soon anyway doesnt it?
[20:50] <hexacode> helpdesk maverick
[20:51] <hexacode> i believe 10.01 lts
[20:51] <guntbert> hexacode: you need mysql-server (or see !lamp)
[20:51] <hexacode> gunbert so its sudo apt-get install mysql-server?
[20:51] <hexacode> not sudo apt-get install mysql
[20:51] <hexacode> ?
[20:51] <iceroot> hexacode: yes
[20:52] <hexacode> lol im so stupid
[20:52] <guntbert> !tab | hexacode
[20:52] <heizmann> helpdesk : I'm using lvm, and I wish resize my lv easily... pb is when a lv is encrypted with luks, it is unable to resize with "lvresize -L $NEW_SIZE /dev/mapper/mydecrypt_lv ; resize2fs /dev/mapper/mydecrypt_lv"
[20:52] <guntbert> hexacode: no, you are not, you might want mysql-client too :-))
[20:52] <hexacode> thanks guntbert didnt know i could do that in irc
[20:53] <helpdesk> @heizmann have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4530641
[20:54] <javier_> banzhang: how to upgrade to 11.10?
[20:54] <heizmann> helpdesk : I'm reading... :) thanks...
[20:55] <helpdesk> np
[20:55] <andantino> is anyone here using the beta for ocelot
[20:55] <helpdesk> had the same issue before when i added a hdd to my volume...
[20:55] <iceroot> andantino: #ubuntu+1
[20:55] <iceroot> javier_: same for you
[20:56] <alex-> ocelot = 12.04 ?
[20:56] <andantino> 11.10
[20:57] <andantino> oneiric ocelot
[20:57] <tensorpudding> !ubuntu+1 | andantino
[20:57] <andantino> yup i moved over there
[20:58] <andantino> someone asked if ocelot was 12.04
[20:58] <alex-> me
[20:58] <alex-> ah
[20:58] <alex-> oneiric
[20:58] <alex-> andantino: yes, me
[20:58] <andantino> ya
[21:01] <lukas> hez guys I got a problem with my grub2
[21:01] <andantino> whats wrong with your grub2
[21:01] <guntbert> !grub | lukas
[21:01] <lukas> I had to reinstall Windows 7 after several bleuscreens
[21:02] <lukas> now i tried boot repair
[21:02] <pajero> you cool man
[21:02] <pajero> :)
[21:02] <lukas> itt told me to delete all grub files on theszstem
[21:02] <andantino> you cant get windows on because of the grub menu
[21:02] <guntbert> lukas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[21:03] <andantino> how are you reinstalling 7
[21:03] <andantino> with recovery discs?
[21:03] <alex-> lol
[21:04] <guntbert> andantino: recovery of windows is not on topic here
[21:04] <guntbert> !lol | alex-
[21:04] <lukas> but boot repair didnt recogniye that I had deleted it as it told me to, so I had to abbord the Installation, now I don|t have a grub installation to recover
[21:04] <andantino> grub is on topic
[21:04] <guntbert> lukas: did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub ?
[21:05] <alex-> guntbert: what do I have to say then?
[21:05] <andantino> i am laughing out loud right now
[21:05] <KrazyKrivda> so, I'm in need of assistance, i cannot seem to get wifi going on my 10.04, i have no ui, only terminal :-\
[21:05] <guntbert> alex-: nothing - this channel is for support not for smart or witty comments
[21:06] <lukas> guntbert> doing it right now, but this seems like no fast solution, it is late at night here...
[21:06] <guntbert> lukas: what is "boot repair" ?
[21:06] <helpdesk> @krazyKrivda still not too much of an issue... driver problem or do you just need to connect to an AP
[21:07] <KrazyKrivda> helpdesk: drivers are fine, but the button on the laptop (blue when on) is orange, (off) and clicking it as I woudl in windows is not enabling it
[21:07] <guntbert> lukas: nobody promised a "fast solution" :-))
[21:07] <alexmhso> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, which has 2 separate hard drives. Windows 7 is installed on one, which is defaulted to boot, and ubuntu on the other. In the installer i had ubuntu erase/format my second drive and install ubuntu on that drive, but after completing, i restarted and i realized there is no bootloader (i didn't choose the install Ubuntu alongside my other OS's option, which wouldn't let me pick a different hard drive)
[21:08] <lukususagewgwge> hello
[21:08] <alexmhso> Is there a way to reinstall with a bootloader and on a separate drive?
[21:08] <helpdesk> @krazyKrivda there is a command... gotta look it up...
[21:08] <helpdesk> brb
[21:08] <KrazyKrivda> i've been looking helpdesk, but have not found anything (iwconfig wlan0 power on) is as close as i got
[21:09] <lukususagewgwge> i have some problem with youtube site when i try todisplay this site i have only some line of text and thats all i use forefox 7
[21:10] <helpdesk> @krazyKrivda there is a command for firmware
[21:11] <helpdesk> looking now...
[21:11] <KrazyKrivda> ah, ok.. thank you
[21:11] <lukas> sudo grub-install /dev/sda does command not found
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> lukas: install grub-pc then
[21:12] <lukas> now i install grub-common
[21:12] <lukas> okaz
[21:13] <qmanjr5> I think I may have chmodded /etc to 777
[21:13] <qmanjr5> and now I can't use sudo at all
[21:14] <lukususagewgwge> i have problem only with this site
[21:14] <qmanjr5> How do I fix this? ._.
[21:14] <th0r> qmanjr5: how are you at reinstalling?
[21:14] <qmanjr5> :'(
[21:14] <qmanjr5> Seriously?>
[21:14] <guntbert> qmanjr5: how in the world did you manage *that*?
[21:14] <qmanjr5> I uh
[21:14] <lukas> I have the package configuration of grub-pc
[21:15] <sencha_> where can I find the build script used to build ubuntu's libgphoto package?
[21:15] <qmanjr5> May have been stupid enough to press enter when I was typing /etc/php5
[21:15] <lukas> how can I tick a checkbox on terminal_
[21:15] <qmanjr5> before I typed php5...
[21:15] <lukas> ?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> qmanjr5: sounds like the sudoers file is the one causing issues
[21:15] <qmanjr5> It is.
[21:15] <qmanjr5> lukas, press space I believe.
[21:15] <guntbert> qmanjr5: seriously: don't do regular work as root in the future
[21:15] <qmanjr5> Well I needed permissions to /etc/php5
[21:16] <qmanjr5> and I'm used to Mint, where it has a Open As Administrator box on right-click
[21:16] <qmanjr5> So I'm not familiar with this yet.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> qmanjr5: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[21:16] <guntbert> qmanjr5: setting 777 anywhere under /etc/ is dangerous
[21:16] <blz> Question.  I installed LIRC and it somehow managed to detect my laptop's integrated IR sensor.  LIRC works perfectly fine, but now I'd like to set my IR sensor to wake ubuntu from a sleeping state.  That said, LSUSB and LCPCI don't output anything that looks like an IR sensor.  How can I find the damn thing?
[21:16] <wueska> Hey Latd
[21:16] <wueska> Lads*
[21:16] <KrazyKrivda> helpdesk: yeah, not so easy to find :-\
[21:16] <qmanjr5> natty
[21:17] <qmanjr5> ActionParsnip, It's natty
[21:17] <lukususagewgwge> what is wrong with this web browser or web site?
[21:17] <Lithos84> qmanjr5: To see Open As Administrator, install "nautilus-gksu"
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> qmanjr5: I suggest you boot to live cd, mount the internal partition and look at the perms in the liveCD and apply them to the files on the partition
[21:18] <helpdesk> @krazyKrivda. at work DS1 line just went down... ill have to talk later...
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> qmanjr5: it'll take ages
[21:18] <KrazyKrivda> ok thank you anyway
[21:18] <guntbert> qmanjr5: reinstalling will be faster
[21:18] <qmanjr5> can't I just look at the permissions on the live CD for /etc and apply them, while on the live cd, to /etc on the main partition?
[21:19] <guntbert> qmanjr5: thats what ActionParsnip suggested, but you will have to do it file by file
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> qmanjr5: isnt that what I ust suggested?
[21:19]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[21:19] <qmanjr5> Sorry
[21:19] <qmanjr5> What I meant was not going file by file
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> qmanjr5: or use your backups :)
[21:20] <qmanjr5> I don't think I have those.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> qmanjr5: you'll be doing:  ls -l something      then apply the access to the same something on the installed partition
[21:20] <djjonex> I need to write in a mac format ext hd
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> !hfs
[21:20] <djjonex> lol i know but thats what i need to use serato perfectly
[21:20] <KrazyKrivda> anyone knwo how i can turn on/off wifi via terminal
[21:20] <lukususagewgwge> what is wrong with my firefox
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: you can unload the module, or you can ifdown the interface name
[21:21] <guntbert> lukususagewgwge: how should we know? what is your problem?
[21:21] <blz> Question.  I installed LIRC and it somehow managed to detect my laptop's integrated IR sensor.  LIRC works perfectly fine, but now I'd like to set my IR sensor to wake ubuntu from a sleeping state.  That said, LSUSB and LCPCI don't output anything that looks like an IR sensor.  How can I find the damn thing?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> lukususagewgwge: do we guess?
[21:21] <qmanjr5> I'm out of CDs...
[21:21] <th0r> lukususagewgwge: from your description of the problem, I would guess you installed it upside down
[21:21] <qmanjr5> Great.
[21:21] <Lithos84> !details | lukususagewgwge
[21:21] <KrazyKrivda> ActionParsnip: how woudl I do that.. i only have access to teminal, and I can't seem to turn on WIFI :-\
[21:21] <guntbert> !repeat | blz
[21:22] <qmanjr5> Aside from a live CD, is there any way to reinstall Ubuntu?
[21:22] <qmanjr5> I'm out of dics
[21:22] <qmanjr5> discs*
[21:22] <djjonex> USB boot
[21:22] <blz> qmanjr5, flash drives
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: iwconfig     will show the name (wlan0 is common)
[21:22] <qmanjr5> I don't think I have one
[21:22] <qmanjr5> Here at least.
[21:22] <djjonex> network nboot
[21:22] <blz> qmanjr5, network boot
[21:22] <qmanjr5> Wut
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: you can use:  sudo ifdown wlan0       change wlan0 if yours is different
[21:23] <guntbert> !enter | qmanjr5
[21:23] <KrazyKrivda> ActionParsnip: yes `iwconfig power wlan0 on` turns on power management.. but still seems deactivated
[21:23] <djjonex> need to write in hfs partition :(
[21:23] <blz> qmanjr5, http://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+network+boot
[21:23] <qmanjr5> What is this network boot?
[21:23] <qmanjr5> Thanks
[21:23] <blz> You're quite welcome
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> djjonex: http://somethingkindawierd.com/blog/computers/linux-computers/08/2009/readwrite-to-hfs-on-ubuntu/
[21:24] <delac> using "ffmpeg -i INPUTFILE -vcodec copy -acodec copy OUTFILE" on h264 encoded file seems to output broken file even if the original plays ok. Am I doing something incorrectly?
[21:24] <KrazyKrivda> ActionParsnip: your command returns "interface wlan0 not configured
[21:24] <lukususagewgwge> a have a problem with firefox when i try to run youtube i have display only some line of text without miniaturs of movies i runing ubuntu 11.04 firefox 7 i cant repair this
[21:24] <qmanjr5> Wait, does netboot require 2 computers?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: you can run: sudo lshw -C network     and unload the driver module driving it
[21:24] <blz> lukususagewgwge, have you tried another browser?
[21:25] <blz> qmanjr5, yes or an offsite server
[21:25] <qmanjr5> Greaaaat
[21:25] <qmanjr5> I don't have another one. -.-
[21:25] <KrazyKrivda> lshw command not found ActionParsnip
[21:25] <lukususagewgwge> yes i try chromium but still this some efects
[21:25] <blz> then it's CDs all the way
[21:25] <mongy> Im runnin irssi on my vps, via ssh and byobu.  It says load is 1.15+ yet when I run top on it, nadda
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> lukususagewgwge: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf'
[21:25] <qmanjr5> God damn it.
[21:25] <bitmonk> qmanjr5: it implies that one of them uses the other for storage
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: its in a standard install
[21:25] <KrazyKrivda> ActionParsnip: :-\ I'm running the xbmc live off usb
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: sudo apt-get install lshw
[21:26] <blz> qmanjr5, honestly 2gig flash drives are cheap these days.  if you purchase one you'll make up for the cost of buying CDs very quickly
[21:26] <qmanjr5> I am so boned.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: xbmc live cd isn't supported here
[21:26] <fullmetal> @KrazyKrivda
[21:26] <fullmetal> sudo rfkill block wifi
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: this is ubuntu support only
[21:26] <fullmetal> to kill
[21:26] <fullmetal> and
[21:26] <KrazyKrivda> ActionParsnip: yes I know, but i was hoping to get a command to turn on my wifi since it is ubuntu 10.04
[21:26] <fullmetal> sudo rfkill unblock wifi
[21:26] <lukususagewgwge> ActionParsnip i don't understand you
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> KrazyKrivda: its not, its some home brew xbmc thing, only canonical releases are supported here
[21:27] <fullmetal> sorry for the name change.
[21:27] <blz> lukususagewgwge, he wants you to run that command and pastebin the output
[21:27] <fullmetal> i was helpdesk
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> lukususagewgwge: its a terminal command, run it and copy the output then copy the output and make a pastebin using http://pastei.org  then give the link here
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> http://pastie.org
[21:28] <pmnull> hi when i try to use (out of curiosity) the kde plasma option on boot up in ubuntu it loads but the screen is black, it just shows a small startup screen then goes to black. ne ideas how to make it work
[21:28] <KrazyKrivda> fullmetal: it took the cmfs, but no change in functionality
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> fullmetal: KrazyKrivda: can you please take non-ubuntu issues elsewhere please
[21:29] <KrazyKrivda> yup, sry
[21:29] <fullmetal> @krazy im on a #! box now... try the man page?
[21:29] <fullmetal> man rfkill
[21:29] <pmnull> that is an ubuntu issue
[21:29] <pmnull> i got it on the disc and is an option on bootup and i am a new user sir
[21:29] <fullmetal> @pmnull boot it in safe graphics mode..
[21:30] <pmnull> oh ok thanks its a graphics issue
[21:30] <guntbert> pmnull: people in #kubuntu might be better knowledgable about kde
[21:31] <pmnull> ah. is it ne good or worth trying? currently using gnome because compiz config messed up natty narwhal
[21:31] <g0rs> gnome power-manager is not visible on my gnome desktop in 11.04 . Any idea how to bring it back?
[21:31] <pmnull> prefer gnome actually
[21:31] <Haematoma> Is it possible to throw multiple ISOs onto one bootable USB drive w/ a selection menu?
[21:32] <physically_fit> what's the official name of the left panel? is it called "launcher"?
[21:32] <lordjj> Anyone know how I can compile a Mac dmg from C++ code from linux?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Haematoma: pendrivelinux have an app for that
[21:32] <pmnull> also still having problems getting my nvidia 8200 graphics card recognised but thats another story ha.
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | pmnull
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> pmnull: or try the boot option:  nouvea.blacklist=1
[21:33] <lordjj> something like mingw but for Mac?
[21:33] <pmnull> and on boot up still get cloud-init-nonet waiting for network device for 60 seconds cant seem to fix it.
[21:33] <lukususagewgwge> link to this is http://pastie.org/2662688 i thing i do everithing well
[21:33] <pmnull> thanks action
[21:34] <physically_fit> s.o.s.
[21:34] <Haematoma> ActionParsnip, thanks buddy!
[21:35] <physically_fit> ActionParsnip, how do you call the left panel? do you call it: "launcher"?
[21:35] <guntbert> pmnull: typo - it is nouveau.blacklist=1
[21:35] <physically_fit> i need to file a bug
[21:36] <guntbert> !bug | physically_fit
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> lukususagewgwge: http://pastebin.com/muc8SFkM
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> physically_fit: unity bar   if you are using unity shell
[21:36] <pmnull> iwell the cloud init nonet bug has apparantley been fixed but no update has patched it on my computer and the synaptics package manager seems to have stopped working says i already have that particular patch
[21:36] <physically_fit> thanks ActionParsnip and guntbert
[21:38] <BouerBouer> hey guys need some help
[21:38] <BouerBouer> trying to sync my iPod on ubuntu
[21:38] <BouerBouer> but when I plug it in it comes up as a digital camera
[21:38] <BouerBouer> and it doesn't show up at all in banshee or gtkpod
[21:38] <BouerBouer> what do?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> lukususagewgwge: too many flash plugins causes issues, the command removes any trace of flash then installs the one you want
[21:38] <pmnull> ok one last question. i have a dual boot vista ubuntu . vista is terrible but wanted to system restore it. will that affect the ubuntu partition or not? if it goes back beyond the ubuntu installation date
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> !ipod
[21:39] <BouerBouer> that's not useful at all
[21:39] <BouerBouer> because did allthat already
[21:39] <BouerBouer> all that*
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: I don't know that, do I?
[21:40] <lukususagewgwge> ActionParsnip thanks but i have some syntax error
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: there is ifuse i know exists, thats all I know of (crappy) ipods
[21:40] <BouerBouer> well yeah done that already
[21:41] <BouerBouer> ifuse?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> !info ifuse
[21:41] <pmnull> will the windows system restore have the power to mess up the ubuntu disc partition?
[21:41] <BouerBouer> ah okay
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> lukususagewgwge: its all one command, the top line is one command
[21:43] <pmnull> or will it just restore the windows partition. or i could install ubuntu completely and just wipe windows partition but dont know how to save all my stuff and then reload it all after...
[21:43] <g0rs> gnome power-manager is not visible on my gnome desktop in 11.04 . Any idea how to bring it back and dock it on a panel?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[21:44] <lukususagewgwge> but terminal gives this output data back Żądanie HTTP wysłano, oczekiwanie na odpowiedź... 404 Not Found
[21:45] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: i have a default panel. Is there any power manager which can be docked ontot he panel to change power settings like , screen off, dim display etc?
[21:45] <KrazyKrivda1> fullmetal: still here?
[21:45] <fullmetal> sure am
[21:45] <fullmetal> kinda
[21:45] <fullmetal> battel with a failing DS1
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> lukususagewgwge: can you pastebin the full output please :)
[21:45] <KrazyKrivda1> can i PM again fullmetal?
[21:45] <fullmetal> sure
[21:45] <BouerBouer> hi just did what you suggested, no difference
[21:45] <BouerBouer> still comes up as a digital camersa
[21:45] <BouerBouer> camera*
[21:46] <lukususagewgwge> one moment i must register
[21:47] <lordjj> Mac binaries C++ compiler for Ubuntu anyone?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> !paste | lukususagewgwge  no need to register dude
[21:48] <pmnull> so many problems..i cant access var log rkhunter file cause i dont have access rights but it wont let me type sudo and password anywhere to access it. when i try from console it wont and in file manager says dont have rights! aaaagh
[21:48] <BouerBouer> so yeah any other suggestions?
[21:48] <BouerBouer> ipod still coming up as a digital camera
[21:49] <bluepnume> I'm trying to get lirc to work with my new ir remote -- however when I run `sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart` I get the error `find: ‘/sys/class/rc/*/’: No such file or directory`. Any advise??
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/04/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/
[21:49] <g0rs> anybody seen argentina?
[21:49] <BouerBouer> lolol the irony was just on that page
[21:49] <BouerBouer> that's the thing
[21:49] <BouerBouer> it's not coming up as a digital media player
[21:49] <BouerBouer> it's coming up as a digital camera
[21:49] <BouerBouer> and when I explore it only my pictures and videos on it come up
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> bluepnume: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/787742
[21:50] <lukususagewgwge> ok people is lerning all time long thi is that link http://paste.ubuntu.com/704627/
[21:51] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: epihany web browser crashes and it is highly unstable, is there any patch for it or is there any new version available?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: not used it, sorry. You may find a ppa I guess
[21:51] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: epiphany *
[21:51] <hxm> hi
[21:51] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: what is a ppa?
[21:51] <BouerBouer> so any other suggestions action?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1650540?start=0&tstart=0
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | g0rs
[21:51] <auronandace> !ppa | g0rs
[21:52] <hxm> i have installed ubuntu in a virtualbox, then i try to use guest additions but it doesnt enable anything, i cant use the fluid mode -- im on mac osx
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: there are billions of people reporting this, even happens in windows
[21:52] <BouerBouer> ah okay, so remove all photos and it's all good?
[21:52] <rapage> I want to know if ubuntu verifies if the packages are correct after update manager has downloaded them
[21:52] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: there is a latest version available
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: no idea. I dont own an ipod. I'm just dragging up websites
[21:52] <BouerBouer> okay thanks for the help
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1500
[21:53] <BouerBouer> will just back up everything on my computer only have like 60 pictures and a 1TB hard drive :P
[21:53] <robin0800> BouerBouer, if I remember correctly you need to add a file to the player that says it is a digital player
[21:53] <HackeMate> how to install guest-additions and use it properly?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> ipods suck, not worth the hassle ot money
[21:54] <BouerBouer> what do you mean, add a file?
[21:54] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: epiphany 3.0 is with gnome3. Do you know if it would be compatible with gnome2 ?
[21:54] <BouerBouer> and action not worth the money, sure, but worth the hassle
[21:54] <auronandace> g0rs: it won't
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: it will have gnome3 deps, so no. You'll need Oneiric
[21:54] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: probably not worth the hassle .
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: there are a tonne of media players that do the same, and better
[21:55] <BouerBouer> better?
[21:55] <BouerBouer> like what?
[21:55] <BouerBouer> don't say zune please
[21:55] <BouerBouer> robin0800: what file do you mean?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: dude, its 2011, media players moved on, ipod stuck with the same thing. They are heavilly under specced
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> BouerBouer: most cowon stuff will do much better
[21:56] <BouerBouer> OH too restrictive then yeah fair enough
[21:56] <mongy> buy restricted, prepare to be restricted
[21:57] <g0rs> has anybody tried cairo dock with ubuntu ? the gui interface would emulate mac os completely in appearance.
[21:57] <lukususagewgwge> the output file of screanshot is http://imagebin.org/178072
[21:57] <ubuntucloud191> hi
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: docky and avant window navigator wil do it too ;)
[21:57] <ubuntucloud191> hello?
[21:58] <lukususagewgwge> i must go becouse i am in the work i work as a paramedic
[21:58] <ubuntucloud191> yep, me too
[21:58] <robin0800> BouerBouer, can't remember the exact thing perhaps a linux player FAQ
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> lukususagewgwge: ok can you rerun the first command I gave please, use up cursor to repeast
[21:58] <BouerBouer> ah okay, will backup the ipod for now then delete all the files
[21:58] <BouerBouer> see if that helps
[21:59] <Smashcat> Hi - I installed a package on Unbuntu, then removed it and manually removed all the startup scripts etc it left hanging around. I then reinstalled and it failed to recreate the startup scripts. Is there a "force" switch I can use so it generates the correct scripts? (netatalk package)
[21:59] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: I'm trying both of them :)
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: if you want a light dock then simdoc or wbar are light on resources
[22:01] <dieterd> Hi, what's wrong with initrd.img created by update from 10.04.2 to 10.04.3. Since then I have grub error 18. Any ideas for repair?  Grub repair and reinstall can't solve this.
[22:02] <BouerBouer> okay, deleted all the files but still no luck
[22:02] <BouerBouer> still coming up as a digital camera
[22:02] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: its alright probably. I have to enable compiz manager as well.
[22:02] <BouerBouer> would putting it in sleep mode before plugging it in change anything?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: the light ones don't need compiz ;)
[22:03] <BouerBouer> doesn't make a difference if listening to music, in standby etc still showing up as a digital camera :S
[22:03] <BouerBouer> robin, any more advice on the file thing?
[22:03] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: how about animations , fading and other desktop tweaks? are they supported in light docks?
[22:03] <rnigam> Hi i am trying to build open64 compiler on ubuntu 10.10 - AMD 64 bit opteron Server. I am having issues building it.  Here is the error of 'make all' while building : http://paste.ubuntu.com/704631/. Can someone help me with this?
[22:03] <lordjj> Anyone know how I can compile Mac binaries from Linux (C++)?
[22:06] <SIFTU> g0rs: sure cairo-compmgr does a fine job of that
[22:07] <Monty> kann mir jemand helfen? ich habe ubuntu 11.04 auf dem Rechner und will ein 2GB Image auf eine 4GB SD Karte übertragen. Beim DD Befehl kommt nach ein paar Sekunden: Auf dem Gerät ist kein Speicherplatz mehr verfügbar...
[22:07] <Lithos84> !de | Monty
[22:08] <robin0800> BouerBouer, you may have to google it sorry can't google here for you
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: they will be if you use compiz
[22:08] <Monty> ok, please excuse
[22:08] <BouerBouer> alright thanks robin
[22:08] <Smashcat> Anyone here know how the apt-get installer is supposed to remove packages? Seems to be broken on lucid (leaves crap around which breaks future installs)
[22:08] <diegoviola> hi
[22:09] <robin0800> Smashcat, dit you use purge?
[22:10] <Smashcat> robin: I used apt-get remove {packageName}
[22:10] <Jordan_U> !details | Smashcat
[22:10] <Lithos84> Smashcat: Try "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[22:11] <robin0800> Smashcat, you need purge to remove configuration files
[22:11] <Smashcat> robin0800: Ok I'll try that too, thanks
[22:12] <Lithos84> Smashcat: To remove configuration files from removed packages, type this: sudo aptitude purge ~'c'
[22:13] <Smashcat> Lithos84: Ok, did that. And it seems to remove the package, but when I then reinstall it fails to regenerate the config files and startup scripts, so guessing something's broken
[22:13] <BouerBouer> ugh great
[22:13] <BouerBouer> updated the system and now my ipod won't show up at all ¬_¬
[22:15] <Untitled_only> hey room, I'm having a problem with loggin ubuntu one...
[22:16] <Untitled_only> can anyone help?
[22:16] <Smashcat> Ah fixed it - I manually deleted the empty config directories after using remove + purge, then reinstalled and it worked. Must be a bug in the uninstaller for that package
[22:17] <Untitled_only> I did, it said authentication error, when i made the account
[22:18] <wartrend> hello
[22:18] <ascheel> My 11.04 installation graphically locks up during boot.  I can ssh into it and it seems responsive with everything but graphics.  Any way I can stop it from trying to boot up X?
[22:18] <Untitled_only> I un installed it twice
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: what video chip?
[22:19] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: Nvidia, but I can pull that and let it run from Intel
[22:20] <haemogoblin> Evening
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: disable the onboard in BIOS and add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[22:21] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: to grub?
[22:21] <haemogoblin> does anyone know if Lubuntu cpufreq tools have problems with Intel duo cpu's?
[22:22] <haemogoblin> I've recently installed and been unable to throttle the CPU in anyway, so i'm stuck with my fan going full speed
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> ascheel: yes, it will make nouveau not load and you will use the nv driver to install, you will need it on first boot too, after you get to the installed desktop you can install the proprietary driver
[22:22] <ascheel> understood.  rebooting
[22:22] <ascheel> ActionParsnip: ^^^
[22:26] <almoxarife> I came up with a slick way of running apps from a server, all in the same home network, I guess its x11 via ssh, and its sweet, I can't get sound though on the client from the server, there is something a config of some sort that is suppose to do the job but I can't remember the name or where I saw it, any help?
[22:26] <pato> hello
[22:27] <binarymutant> does xutils-dev provide xorg-macros?
[22:28] <Godfather_> hi
[22:28] <DalekBot>  hello
[22:28] <Godfather_> how can i create a launcher in unity?
[22:29] <onder> Godfather_: There is only one Launcher in Unity.
[22:29] <Godfather_> onder, i mean, an application on the bar to launch a application
[22:29] <onder> Oh, yes.
[22:29] <Godfather_> onder, i have a problem with eclipse to put in the bar
[22:30] <fdge> I drag mine to it
[22:30] <onder> Open Dash, search for the application to add launcher, drag it and drop on the Launcher.
[22:30] <Godfather_> onder, i open the program, and then i right-click on it "Mantener el lanzador" (i dont know the exact text in english, but similar to Mantain the launcher)
[22:30] <onder> This should help you.
[22:31] <Godfather_> but when i logout and login it dissapears
[22:31] <Godfather_> just happens with eclipse, other applications like filezilla or xchat doesnt do this
[22:32] <BluesKaj> almoxarife, if you use vlc or another player that can stream media onto a network , then while ssh'd into the server , use dbus-launch somemediaplayer to stream the content to your IP
[22:32] <pooltable> what are the other ubuntu?
[22:32] <BluesKaj> to the cient IP. almoxarife
[22:33] <pmnull> hi
[22:33] <pmnull> neone understand rkhunter warning files
[22:33] <bazhang> pooltable, kubuntu edubuntu lubuntu xubuntu ubuntustudio are others
[22:33] <onder> Did you try to drag and drop it?
[22:33] <Godfather_> onder, im not abble to drag it
[22:33] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: thnks,
[22:33] <Godfather_> onder, i drag it into the bar and theres no action
[22:34] <pmnull> how do you post them on a page and add a link here
[22:34] <bazhang> !paste | pmnull
[22:34] <pmnull> ta
[22:34] <Godfather_> onder,  when i drag into the bar the bar comes like black
[22:35] <Mega1> how do i find out how long my ubuntu server has been running
[22:35] <onder> Truly I would like to help you but I don't know how to do it. :[. Sorry.
[22:35] <pooltable> bazhang lubuntu xubuntu what the diffence does is comes with unity?
[22:36] <Godfather_> onder, exists any folder or similar where the elements in the bar exists?
[22:36] <bazhang> pooltable, only ubuntu has unity
[22:36] <pmnull> http://paste.ubuntu.com/704643/
[22:36] <pmnull> nething there to worry about has a few warnings
[22:36] <palok> hello, how can I manually select the graphics driver that xorg uses? like we used to do in xorg.conf, but this file no longer exists
[22:36] <pmnull> rkunter log
[22:36] <pmnull> nehelp appreciated
[22:37] <bazhang> pmnull, yep, they generally  have some false positives in my experience
[22:37] <pooltable> bazhang  xubuntu  look like a mac is that the only thing different
[22:37] <bazhang> pooltable, check the website for screenshot;
[22:37] <pooltable> bazhang  how do i swich from ubuntu to lubuntu or xubuntu?
[22:37] <bazhang> !xubuntu > pooltable
[22:38] <bazhang> pooltable, install lubuntu-desktop then choose at login window
[22:38] <onder> Godfather_ : Check out this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[22:38] <pooltable> !xubuntu
[22:38] <VampsDaBeast> how do you restore window borders(ie the border with min max and exit) after uninstalling enlightenment
[22:38] <pmnull> thats ok then. but not sure what there is there that might show summinto worry about
[22:39] <Godfather_> onder, yes, this should help me, thx!
[22:39] <pooltable> bazhang  i mean with all i have installed now how do i backup then installed lubuntu or xbuntu?
[22:39] <pmnull> half the time im just going blind and trying things here and there dont even think have it all setup properly.
[22:40] <onder> Godfather_ : I hope it will. You're welcome.
[22:40] <bazhang> pooltable, you dont , unless you want a "pure" lubuntu
[22:40] <bazhang> !purexfce | pooltable
[22:41] <pmnull> its here http://paste.ubuntu.com/704643/
[22:42] <pooltable> bazhang will xbuntu or lubuntu be relese on 11 oct 11?
[22:42] <djbeirut> hi
[22:42] <djbeirut> i have a tiny ubuntu installation and i want arabic text to work.. i want to be able to read txt files written in arabic. how can i do that?
[22:43] <bazhang> pooltable, no, because none will. you are confusing 11.10  (2011 October)
[22:43] <bazhang> djbeirut, installed from minimal iso? what is tiny
[22:43] <djbeirut> yes
[22:43] <VampsDaBeast> I have lost the ablity to move, min, max, control any window i have open(ie firefox, irc, mail) after uninstall E16, how do i get all that back?
[22:43] <pooltable> bazhang will xbuntu or lubuntu so when it will be final 11.10?
[22:44] <bazhang> djbeirut, install the various language packages and fonts, apt-cache search arabic
[22:44] <bazhang> pooltable, #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 discussion
[22:45] <pooltable> bazhang ok thanks
[22:46] <djbeirut> i did.. when i type locale -a i can see the arabic fonts.. but when i type nano arabic.txt it does not show the text right
[22:46] <Ybbald> Hello, I just recently installed Ubuntu on my laptop for the fist time, and I have somehow managed to corrupt the operating system, and it won't bot up
[22:47] <pooltable> bazhang 11.10's release schedule calls for the first alpha to be available 2 June 2011, the first beta on 1 September 2011 and the final stable release on 13 October 2011, the same day that Ubuntu 11.10 will be released.[58]
[22:47] <Ybbald> I tried uninstaling and reinstalling and it still gave me problems. I then tried a /force fckd a friend told me about, which did nothing I could notice
[22:48] <Crumbz> Hey guys, how do i install an older kernel version?
[22:48] <Crumbz> anyone there?
[22:49] <VampsDaBeast> how do i set a display manager such as gdm or kdm
[22:49] <io> !kernel > Crumbz               (Crumbz, see private message from ubottu)
[22:49] <qkumbers> hello all
[22:49] <coz_> VampsDaBeast,    sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[22:50] <Crumbz> io, thanks i will give it a read
[22:50] <coz_> VampsDaBeast,  or sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[22:50] <qkumbers> i've seen instructions on installing a CA cert, but how does one install a self-signed cert system wide, if i don't have the issuing CA's cert
[22:50] <VampsDaBeast> coz will this restore gdm and gnome after uninstalling enlightenment?
[22:51] <coz_> VampsDaBeast,  it should bring up the dialog to choose between the two,,, most likely ,,yes
[22:51] <djbeirut> does anyone know how i can read arabic text file using nano in minimal ubuntu installation?
[22:51] <neoanderson> I have messed up my partition table on eeepc 1201 while playing with asus recovery partition! now i see /dev/sda100 till sda255!! I cant boot in recovery partition nor in windows! how do I fix it
[22:51] <djbeirut> arabic text support is installed and fonts.
[22:51] <VampsDaBeast> coz : reboot or logout?
[22:52] <Ybbald> how do I reboot from the thing that's like command prompt on windows?
[22:52] <VampsDaBeast> Ybbald, sudo reboot
[22:52] <rypervenche> Ybbald: sudo shutdown -r now
[22:52] <Ybbald> thathanks
[22:53] <mang0> Ybbald: It's called "terminal" or "shell"
[22:53] <mang0> :)
[22:53] <Ybbald> gotacha
[22:53] <Crumbz> io, thanks but it doesn't really say much. I am looking for kernel version 2.6.31-20 without having to compile my own. Can i find that specific image pre-compiled?
[22:53] <qkumbers> how do you install a certificate system wide? i.e. for use by gvfs
[22:54] <Crumbz> anyone know where i can get a precompiled kernel version 2.6.31-20?
[22:55] <dougl> not sure how it happened but my 11.04 install got messed up when I noticed the wobbly windows was not enabled and my desktop cube were not working now none of that works and I cannot even move windows by dragging title bars... any suggestions?
[22:56] <coz_> dougl,   if you can ,, open ccsm and make sure the Ubuntu Unity plugin is enabled,,, also ,, did you try to restart?
[22:56] <VampsDaBeast> coz : didnt work, still dont have the bars on each window
[22:57] <hatch> how do I access a windows dir that has spaces in it? the name it lists in the ls - al says it doesn't exist :)
[22:57] <coz_> VampsDaBeast,  did you restart x or reboot?
[22:57] <neoanderson> please help me
[22:57] <VampsDaBeast> coz : reboot
[22:57] <th0r> hatch: you need to escape the spaces...put a \ in front of each space...like\ this
[22:57] <coz_> VampsDaBeast,  mm,, did you want gdm or kdm?
[22:58] <hatch> th0r: got it thanks!
[22:58] <VampsDaBeast> coz : i set it for gdm
[22:58] <hatch> knew it was something simple
[22:58] <th0r> hatch: might need to include the name in single quotes also...not sure
[22:58] <Godfather_> how can i disable the keyring everytime i login in unity?
[22:58] <hatch> worked with just the \ in 10.04
[22:59] <VampsDaBeast> coz : as you said i did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[22:59] <coz_> VampsDaBeast,  try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:59] <th0r> hatch: if you use tab completion I think it puts the \ in there for you
[22:59] <VampsDaBeast> coz : on hold one minute
[22:59] <hatch> th0r: no luck here but that may be a setting somewhere
[23:00] <Yoshimi> i switched to lubuntu and uninstalled sound recorder by accident
[23:00] <Yoshimi> how do i reinstall it?
[23:00] <VampsDaBeast> coz : ubuntu-desktop is already the newest install | what i get from that command
[23:00] <VampsDaBeast> Yoshimi, use Ubuntu Software Center.
[23:00] <dougl> coz_, I enabled unity plugin and that disabled desktop cube (which I want) and it makes no difference I cannot move my windows adn restart has no affect
[23:00] <pitlimit> i want to reformat my external hard drive to a file system both ubuntu and windows 7 can recognize - can anyone make a suggestion?
[23:01] <Yoshimi> command line please
[23:01] <VampsDaBeast> Yoshimi, you would need to know the package but that would be sudo apt-get install <package>
[23:02] <Yoshimi> yes i know thats what im asking what is the package name there are 1460 ppl in this chat surely one person knows the package name
[23:02] <Yoshimi> sudo apt-get install sound-recorder doesnt work
[23:02] <coz_> dougl,  ok open your home directory.. hit ctrl+h to show hidden files... open the .conf folder and delete any .compiz folders in there,, then restart,, that should reset it to defaults  ...or...open ccsm / Preferences/  hit the" reset to defaults" button and try it
[23:02] <bazhang> Yoshimi, apt-cache search yourpackagename
[23:02] <bazhang> Yoshimi, sudo apt-get install yourpackage
[23:02] <Yoshimi> thx
[23:03] <bazhang> Yoshimi, You are very welcome.
[23:03] <lukususagewgwge> ActionParsnip ok i am back when i use first coman i get back this http://paste.ubuntu.com/704650/
[23:03] <pitlimit> anyone? :)
[23:03] <cruz> Alguem ai
[23:03] <cruz> ?
[23:03] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, windows can't recognize ext partitions
[23:03] <cruz> Brasil
[23:03] <coz_> dougl,   cube and wobbly are possible  on Unity, however,, you have to ignore the conflicts dialog when re enabling  the Unity plugin
[23:04] <pitlimit> _GhouL_, NTFS doesn't mount on Ubuntu automatically
[23:04] <Polah> _GhouL_: Windows can non-natively.
[23:05] <Yoshimi> burn windows
[23:05] <dougl> coz_, thanks... reseting to defaults worked so far
[23:05] <VampsDaBeast> pitlimit, i have 3 external HD's all in NTFS thru USB and ubuntu mounts them with no problems.
[23:05] <coz_> dougl,  cool
[23:05] <pitlimit> hm weird Vampire0_
[23:05] <pitlimit> oops VampsDaBeast
[23:05] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, yes it needs some software to recognize ext partition from windows
[23:05] <Polah> pitlimit: You could set up a udev rule to mount it when it drive is plugged it. Is it really too much effort to wait a second or two while it's mounted when accessing it?
[23:05] <pitlimit> I used gparted VampsDaBeast to reformat it
[23:05] <pitlimit> ok let me try
[23:05] <pitlimit> thanks
[23:06] <_GhouL_> but lately i used some of them and I didn't get good results
[23:06] <hexacode> someone just ran over my motorcyle...is it ok if i wait until tomorrow to report it to the insurance company?
[23:06] <coz_> dougl,  diable desktop wall first... then disable unity plugin,,, then enable desktop cube,, rotate cube and viewport swticher,, then re enable unity plugin but ignore the conflicts dialog
[23:06] <coz_> dougl,  that generally does it for unity on 11.04
[23:06] <pitlimit> you're right VampsDaBeast - it mounted!
[23:06] <pitlimit> It did not last time
[23:06] <VampsDaBeast> pitlimit, :D
[23:07] <pooltable> hexacode report asap
[23:07] <Guest34683> hello! i'm using a ubuntu distro based that don't have the "System > Administration > Hardware Drivers" how can install this hardware controler?
[23:07] <pitlimit> unfortunately, I have to use Windows to not void my warranty on another machine
[23:07] <dougl> but then I lose my 'applications places system menu' and I cannot find any applications or settings
[23:07] <Kaigeoss> is there an easy way to change the ip to static with Natty Desktop?
[23:07] <dougl> but then I lose my 'applications places system' menus and I cannot find any applications or settings
[23:07] <Guest34683> any ideas
[23:07] <Guest34683> ?
[23:07] <pitlimit> I know there have been lots of complaints, so I hate to add to it... does anyone know if Ubuntu Classic is really going to be faded out
[23:07] <Yoshimi> why would you want a static ip?
[23:07] <pitlimit> if you want to ssh into  it Yoshimi
[23:08] <Yoshimi> oh ok
[23:08] <pitlimit> if the ip keeps changing, you have to resort to other methods to log in
[23:08] <Kaigeoss> for port forwarding.
[23:08] <pitlimit> Kaigeos, ?
[23:08] <Kaigeoss> yes?
[23:08] <pitlimit> same idea, no?
[23:08] <Guest34683> hello! i'm using a ubuntu distro based that don't have the "System > Administration > Hardware Drivers" how can install this hardware controler?
[23:08] <_GhouL_> Polah, and what about fragmentation?
[23:08] <VampsDaBeast> Kaigeos, do you have a router?
[23:08] <pitlimit> or remotely log in
[23:08] <Kaigeoss> game server
[23:08] <Kaigeoss> yes I have a router
[23:08] <Kaigeoss> has nothing to do with a router
[23:08] <Guest34683> SOMEONE!??
[23:08] <Kaigeoss> I need to set static IP on the box
[23:08] <Yoshimi> anyone know how to get ahold of the macintosh os 1?
[23:08] <Guest34683> ??
[23:09] <Guest34683> ?????
[23:09] <Yoshimi> i wanted to run an emulator of it
[23:09] <Guest34683> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[23:09] <csenger41> hey everyone :)
[23:09] <pooltable> pitlimit for all i know yes that why i will move to lubuntu or xubuntu
[23:09] <nblracer_> need help mounting a fakeraid 5 ntfs file system
[23:09] <Deihmos> is 11.10 version as slow as 11.04?
[23:09] <VampsDaBeast> Kaigeos, some routers can actually assign statics to certian MAC'
[23:09] <Polah> _GhouL_: Defragment on the Windows system.
[23:09] <Guest34683> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????///
[23:09] <Guest34683> ????????????????????????????
[23:09] <th0r> Guest34683: that is why 'ubuntu based' distros aren't supported here.
[23:09] <FloodBot1> Guest34683: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <Polah> Guest34683: Don't be so impatient.
[23:09] <soreau> ! patience | Guest34683
[23:09] <Polah> Guest34683: Meanwhile, install jockey-gtk
[23:09] <Guest34683> th0r, i just need know how to install this MENU!
[23:09] <Kaigeoss> yea my router claims too. but when I set by MAC the router doesn't forward. when I use IP it does.
[23:09] <soreau> Guest34683: The program is called jockey-gtk
[23:10] <nblracer_> im geeting that it dose not seem to be a vailid ntfs
[23:10] <pitlimit> pooltable, what was your comment in reference to?
[23:10] <reenignEesreveR> i just recompiled a newer kernel and now when I try to boot with it i get this message "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. no init found" ... if i boot from old kernel, it boots well. What should i do to make the new kernel boot too???
[23:10] <_GhouL_> Polah, but if I use ntfs as a partition i will need to fragment it usually
[23:10] <VampsDaBeast> Kaigeoss, you doing the static via SSH or GUI
[23:10] <FireRailz> with the ubuntu installer is there a way i can run it in a different partition then windows and not use WUBI but use the windows bootloader instead of grub?
[23:10] <VampsDaBeast> err Shell sorry
[23:10] <_GhouL_> Polah,does it depends on the OS or the partition type?
[23:10] <soreau> Guest34683: But most devices do not require a proprietary driver since many are open source, included with the kernel. What are you trying to get working?
[23:10] <Kaigeoss> gui
[23:10] <FireRailz> or rather go to grub from the windows loader
[23:11] <Kaigeoss> I can do it in terminal. just thought I would ask if there was a tool for gui
[23:11] <Polah> _GhouL_: Partitiontype I believe. If you're using NTFS then I assume you're using it on a Windows system as well and thus you can defrag it on that Windows system. If you're not going to be accessing it on Windows, then use another filesystem like ext4 that handles files to avoid fragmentation.
[23:11] <VampsDaBeast> Kaigeoss, if you right click onteh network icon inteh bar, you can config it from there. just select your card (normally eth0) and configure it fromthere
[23:12] <Yoshimi> no one knows where i can get a mac 1 emulator?
[23:12] <VampsDaBeast> Kaigeoss, be sure to set your static ip to one that is within the ip pool your router uses.
[23:13] <FireRailz> yoshimi private msg me
[23:13] <Crumbz> guys, i need to find kernel version 2.6.31, it's not in the repos nor on kernel.org
[23:13] <Kaigeoss> thanks, I know that part.
[23:13] <VampsDaBeast> Kaigeoss, no prob, wasnt sure do figured i'd throw it in there :D
[23:14] <_GhouL_> Polah, yes that is what I think too. So if pitlimit needs a partiton moutable on linux and windows he needs to think also about fragmentation issue but if he finds an alternative to access an ext4 partition from windows that would be better I think
[23:14] <VampsDaBeast> any know how to restore the window bars after uninstalling enlightenment (e16)?
[23:14] <Crumbz> guys, i need to find kernel version 2.6.31, it's not in the repos nor on kernel.org
[23:14] <puff> I'm running 10.4 LTS.  There are apparently some issues with this kernel supporting the network hardware in my laptop.  I don't have time to do a full backup & upgrade at the moment, is it feasible to upgrade just the kernel to a newer version without risking messing the whole thing up?
[23:15] <VampsDaBeast> Crumbz, googleis your friend
[23:15] <rnigam> Hi i am trying to build open64 compiler on ubuntu 10.10 - AMD 64 bit opteron Server. I am having issues building it.  Here is the error of 'make all' while building : http://paste.ubuntu.com/704631/. The problem is in the 15365 of the paste.  Can someone help me with this?
[23:16] <csenger41> someone pls help me, the audio is delayed in VLC player, but in no other player, why can this happen? :S
[23:16] <Crumbz> VampsDaBeast, yeah tahnks Vamp, why did i not think of that?
[23:16] <Crumbz> gg
[23:16] <Kaigeoss> thanks VampsDaBeast that was cake.
[23:16] <Crumbz> gfg
[23:16] <pitlimit> thanks _GhouL_
[23:16] <pitlimit> I will use ext3 then
[23:16] <pitlimit> is that a good choice?
[23:16] <Kaigeoss> and just what I wanted.
[23:16] <VampsDaBeast> Crumbz, Kaigeoss no prob..
[23:16] <Crumbz> lol..
[23:16] <Crumbz> god i love ubuntu
[23:17] <Kaigeoss> same here.
[23:17] <Yoshimi> crumbz: me too
[23:17] <VampsDaBeast> i would too if i could restore my window bars
[23:17] <Kaigeoss> I'm so much closer to completely migrating from windows.
[23:17] <reenignEesreveR> F1 F1 F1!
[23:17] <Crumbz> fuck it, i'll use bsd instead
[23:17] <Kaigeoss> however.
[23:17] <Crumbz> idiots
[23:17] <Kaigeoss> windows now as pretty much just become a game platform for me.
[23:17] <Kaigeoss> all productivity is on linux
[23:17] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, , It will be a good choice if you find a way to access it from windows
[23:18] <pitlimit> okay
[23:18] <pitlimit> _GhouL_, how about accessing it through a VM on windows?
[23:18] <pitlimit> Then I can just move the data to the disk
[23:18] <Polah> _Ghoul_: Doesn't need to worry about fragmentation as long as he defrags on Windows, like I said.
[23:18] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, there are some sofwares that I know but recently I have tried them and I wasn't satisfied
[23:18] <pitlimit> All I need the external hard drive for is for a backup for extreme cases
[23:18] <duffman> phenom II x6 - i5 - or wait for bulldozer? on a budget.
[23:18] <Polah> pitlimit: Why ext3? Why not ext4?
[23:19] <Polah> duffman: Ask in #hardware.
[23:19] <VampsDaBeast> Kaigeoss, much agreed, i'm nearly using Ubuntu for everything
[23:19] <pitlimit> Polah, hm.... do you think ext4 is ok for an external hd?
[23:19] <duffman> thankyou polah
[23:19] <pitlimit> _GhouL_, ext3 or ext4 is better?
[23:20] <pitlimit> journaling is good I guess
[23:20] <_GhouL_> normally ext4 is better but if you will use it only for back up
[23:20] <pitlimit> why _GhouL_ ? Is performance bad?
[23:20] <nrao> Hi folks, looking for a way to flush dns cache. My machine is resolving the name to wrong address. Dont have nscd installed
[23:20] <_GhouL_> that means you won't use it frequently fragmentation won't be a problem
[23:21] <pitlimit> oh... so ext3 is really the way to go then
[23:21] <Kaigeoss> can anyone recomend a partition to partition backup for ubuntu. was thinking rsync at first. but don't like it so much.
[23:21] <_GhouL_> it depends on how the os manage the hardware
[23:21] <Kaigeoss> I have an unused partition saved for the purpose of doing the backup.
[23:21] <fdge> ext4 is still kind of new
[23:22]  * IronSight uses xfs
[23:22] <Polah> pitlimit: ext4 doesn't fragment like NTFS. With NTFS, Windows tries to place everything as close the beginning as possible. ext4 on Linux spreads data out so fragmentation only occurs when the drive is close to becoming full.
[23:22] <Polah> Kaigeoss: rsync would probably be the quickest, simplest way to do it...
[23:22] <pitlimit> oh
[23:23] <pitlimit> Polah, so using ext4 for my external hard drive is the way to go?
[23:23] <_GhouL_> Polah, thanks for the help :)
[23:23] <reenignEesreveR> :(
[23:23]  * reenignEesreveR needs some help too
[23:23] <fdge> if your OS supports it, yes
[23:23] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, it depends on how frequent you will be deleting and adding data to your disk
[23:24] <VampsDaBeast> anyone know how to restore window bars (with min max close) to Ubuntu/Gnome after removing Enlightenment/E16
[23:24] <Polah> pitlimit: Sure, if you set up Windows to be able to read it. NTFS would be the simplest option to do though.
[23:24] <_GhouL_> if you will use it just for back up fragmentation won't be a big issue so you can use NTFS it will simpler to use
[23:24] <fdge> reenignesrever, your never going to get help if you don't ask
[23:25] <reenignEesreveR> fdge, I asked earlier. lemme repeat
[23:25] <george__> hey whatup, any way to disable this keyring i get when i boot up my system?
[23:25] <reenignEesreveR> REPEAT: i just recompiled a newer kernel and now when I try to boot with it i get this message "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. no init found" ... if i boot from old kernel, it boots well. What should i do to make the new kernel boot too???
[23:25] <nblracer_> why is my raid that i set up in windows, as an ntfs is not showing up in ubuntu
[23:26] <nblracer_> i can see the devices
[23:26] <nblracer_> but it dose not have a file sysytem
[23:28] <nblracer_> its odd in fdisk -l shows it as gpt
[23:28] <VampsDaBeast> guess i'll just throw in the cd and see if it repairs it that way.
[23:29] <nblracer_> but in gparted it shows it as a ntfs
[23:29] <pitlimit> _GhouL_, if I run ubuntu in a vm, can it read ext3 or ext4?
[23:29] <pitlimit> I'm moving back towards ext3 because of what you said _GhouL_
[23:30] <Radios> forget VPN http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20117619-264/chrome-extension-enables-remote-computer-control/
[23:30] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, ok let's make it clear. you what to format an external drive right?
[23:30] <pitlimit> yes _GhouL_
[23:31] <pitlimit> It's primarily for backup, but I want to not have to worry if I add things or delete things liberally
[23:31] <Ybbald> From the shell in recovery mode, when I tell it to shutdown (sudo shutdown -r now) it does some things and then the computer stops resonding to input, but the screen is still on showing text. Am I doing it rght? I'm trying to shut it down completely to reboot it
[23:33] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, if you will use it for data it will be better to use NTFS ( plug and use automatically without complications)
[23:33] <pitlimit> ok :)
[23:34] <pitlimit> THANKS!
[23:34] <nblracer_> can any one help me?
[23:34] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, you are welcome :)
[23:34] <_GhouL_> pitlimit, have a nice day
[23:35] <Zanzacar> I setup pub and private keys for my ssh account. I was wondering do I need to change anything in the config file to require the key and not a password?
[23:37] <linuxuz3r> hi
[23:39] <SIFTU> Zanzacar: no
[23:42] <BouerBouer> hey guys, just switched to ubuntu and want to import my passwords from firefox and chrome from my windows 7 installation
[23:42] <BouerBouer> how would I do this?
[23:42] <BouerBouer> I'm on a dual boot setup
[23:43] <ybbald> bouer, use the sync function built into firefox 7
[23:43] <fdge> I think firefox has a extension for multiple machies
[23:43] <ybbald> sync your ubuntu one as a separate device
[23:43] <ybbald> then import it into chrome from firefox
[23:44] <BouerBouer> ybbald, thanks for that but a little problem
[23:44] <BouerBouer> reason am on dual boot right now is that windows 7 is screwed up, got a virus that must of effected system32 folder
[23:44] <ybbald> ugh
[23:44] <BouerBouer> because can't boot it up, system repair tries to fix it then says it can't
[23:44] <BouerBouer> I can access all the files from within ubuntu, however
[23:44] <ybbald> Im on a dual boot too, except my ubuntu is screwed up >.>
[23:44] <BouerBouer> ugh ¬_¬
[23:45] <BouerBouer> so yeah, is there like a certain file that I can open and/or edit and copy to get back the passwords?
[23:45] <BouerBouer> handful I can never remember as well :P
[23:45] <BouerBouer> that are saved in firefox
[23:46] <ybbald> oh yeah >_>, if you cant access your firefox on windows you cant get your sync key
[23:46] <ybbald> did you ever sync your passwords to another laptop or computer?
[23:46] <BouerBouer> god-damnit
[23:46] <BouerBouer> well do you know where the passwords are stored for firetofx?
[23:46] <BouerBouer> firefox*
[23:46] <BouerBouer> maybe I can try copying and pasting/replacing?
[23:46] <ybbald> I don't but I might be able to find it
[23:47] <BouerBouer> okay :)
[23:47] <ybbald> ok
[23:47] <slinzex>  Hi! I trying to print one pdf. But today something wrong with my printer. dmesg:usblp1: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x7E04. And lsusb  03f0:7e04 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet F4100 Printer series. But no printer to print
[23:48] <ybbald> I don't know if this will work, but it might be worth a shot
[23:48] <ybbald> do you have access to another computer with windows on it?
[23:49] <elky> ybbald, BouerBouer you're likely to want this info: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox
[23:49] <elky> I'm not sure if it will include the passwords though.
[23:49] <ybbald> yep that is what I was thinking
[23:49] <BouerBouer> yeah I do ybald
[23:49] <ybbald> ok
[23:49] <Polah> BouerBouer: There's signons.sqlite in your firefox profile directory which I believe stores passwords. You could copy that, or rather your entire Firefox profile and see if that works.
[23:50] <fdge> you can copy your profile folder to another machine and it should wouk
[23:50] <BouerBouer> okay brilliant thanks for the help, will give that a try
[23:50] <fdge> work*
[23:50] <ybbald> bouer you gotta find the profile info on your windows partition, put it on a USB, and put on another computer
[23:50] <Polah> As for actually retrieving the passwords, they're encrypted in that database so you'd have to get them another way
[23:50] <ybbald> and then set up the sync on that computer
[23:50] <BouerBouer> any suggestions for that, polah?
[23:50] <BouerBouer> as a solution?
[23:50] <Zanzacar> SIFTU: Thanks.
[23:50] <BouerBouer> because the passwords are the main thing, I use about 3-4 different passwords I all remember but there's a handful that use very spesific variations on them I can never remember
[23:51] <Polah> BouerBouer: Reset passwords through websites. Firefox has an  option in it's preferences to show passwords I think, have a look after moving your profile.
[23:51] <BouerBouer> okay
[23:51] <elky> if you copy the profile all intact, it should include whatever firefox uses to decrypt.
[23:52] <fdge> I have had this firefox profile for years across dozens of windows reinstalls
[23:53] <fdge> also the extention FEBE is great
[23:53] <pooltable> FEBE IS GREAT
[23:53] <BouerBouer> how to view hidden files on Ubuntu?
[23:53] <pooltable> also tube stop i like
[23:53] <_GhouL_> BouerBouer, you can find it in preference->security->saved passwords
[23:53] <fdge> ls -a
[23:53] <Polah> BouerBouer: Ctrl+H in Nautilus or ls -a
[23:53] <ybbald> holy crap that looks awesome
[23:53] <BouerBouer> okay
[23:53] <_GhouL_> BouerBouer, ctrl+h
[23:54] <fictional> anyone have an issues with nvidia drivers and ubuntu 11 desktop?
[23:54] <BouerBouer> is nautilus the name of the default folder explorer?
[23:54] <Polah> BouerBouer: In GNOME, yes.
[23:54] <slinzex> Hi! I trying to print one pdf. But today something wrong with my printer. dmesg:usblp1: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x7E04. And lsusb  03f0:7e04 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet F4100 Printer series. But no printer to print. Help please
[23:55] <BouerBouer> polah: Ah, I'm running 11.04 on Unity, so what would the shortcut be for that?
[23:55] <Polah> BouerBouer: That's still Nautilus I think
[23:55] <BouerBouer> ah okay
[23:56] <ward_> how do i log a screen session while still having interaction?
[23:56] <ward_> i mean the program screen
[23:56] <bazhang> slinzex, what does linuxprinting.org database have to say about that printer
[23:56] <ward_> i'm connecting to something over a serial connection
[23:56] <BouerBouer> where's the mozilla folder in ubuntu?
[23:56] <BouerBouer> can't seem to find it
[23:56] <BouerBouer> am assuming ~\ is the root folder
[23:57] <slinzex> This site is down for maintenance. We will be restoring service shortly. Thank you for your patience.
[23:57] <slinzex> The Linux Foundation
[23:57] <fdge> ls -a ~/
[23:57] <bazhang> slinzex, on ubuntu ? what version
[23:58] <fictional> has anyone heard of the white-wash window bug with nvidia?
[23:58] <BouerBouer> okay, the folder is coming up in terminal but can't find it in Nautilus
[23:58] <RangerMan> Why is Ubuntu pushing unity?
[23:58] <BouerBouer> where is ~\, is that the root folder?
[23:58] <bazhang> RangerMan, thats not really a support question
[23:58] <_GhouL_> BouerBouer, in your home folder you will find a hidden folder .mozilla
[23:58] <RangerMan> bazhang: ok?
[23:58] <fdge> the ~ means your home folder
[23:58] <BouerBouer> rangerman: I'm assuming it's because Linux = about 1% of the computer usage, trying to make it more user-friendly by changing the look
[23:58] <bazhang> !classic | RangerMan
[23:59] <pooltable> rangerman i wish i know why also i do not like it
[23:59] <BouerBouer> same thing microsoft is doing by switching to the tile layout in Windows 8
[23:59] <Guest1740> soreau whats up
[23:59] <BouerBouer> more user friendly = more users
[23:59] <BouerBouer> AH HOME okay
[23:59] <pooltable> !classic
[23:59] <fdge> I think ctrl+L will allow you to type the address in