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cherWoah... on kubuntu 11.04 and AMD hardware, Compiz and Xinerama just don't work together :(01:38
cherIt seems the kubuntu test and configuration center is sponsored by Intel.01:39
cherWhich package is the engine of the KDE desktop effects?02:13
cherI want to remove it to prevent myself from accidently enabling it.02:13
Daskreechkwin02:15
Daskreechcher: kde-window-manager02:21
cherUhm... sounds a bit essential to KDE.02:21
mark__Hi there, recently Kubuntu asked me to update Adobe Flash (which I did) and now it won't work. Can someone please give me some pointers?02:34
mark__!flash02:34
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash02:34
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Guest26775Hello03:52
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thedanyesHello03:53
thedanyesIs there a better way to identify devices to Alsa and Jackd other that hw:1, hw:0, etc?03:53
thedanyesMy sound device numbers get screwed up when I plug in USB Midi controllers and other things.03:54
thedanyesMaybe they can be identified by usb bus/device number, or hardware mfr/device id?03:54
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alesanhi! I got an update few days ago that MESSED up my setup...05:17
alesannow the desktop is enclosed in a window05:17
alesanand I cannot delete that window and go back to a normal desktop like it has been since KDEv005:18
alesanwhat can I do?05:18
alesanI also have a backup, do you think the desktop settings and more in general KDE settings are in a config file I can retrieve?05:19
kbhtechI need some help with g++ and cc is anyone available?07:21
rorkit usually helps if you just ask a question, if someone knows the answer (s)he will likely respond07:23
kbhtechWell... I would but this is a lot of terminal crap I dont understand lol07:25
rork!pastebin07:25
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rorkthen explain what you're trying to do with a link to the pastebinned terminal output ^^07:26
kbhtechAlright I did, Sorry; new to IRC07:30
kbhtechhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/704762/ ... is this needed?07:30
rorkno problem, we all were new to this once07:33
kbhtechlol07:34
kbhtechwhat does it look like I need to do with my compiler's issue? this is a fresh install and everything. I think that an IDE that I installed crippled it but I'm unsure.07:36
kbhtechIts called Anjuta.07:39
rorkI'm not able to help you with that, you might want to ask in a c++ designated channel ##c++ (click it or type /join ##c++), also ask your question inline and link to the terminal output07:43
rorkgl07:43
FloodBotK2rork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:43
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kbhtechthanks rork.07:50
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wohnpalhi09:37
wohnpalthe font in my login screen is huge after I changed to a hdmi cable to connect my pc to my monitor. How do I change the login screen font for kubuntu 11.0409:37
szalaptitude tells me that flashplugin64-installer is newly obsolete..  I wonder how I should go about bringing Flash 11 to release version, since the info for flashplugin-installer shows it depending on nspluginwrapper, and I don't wanna go 32bit w/ Flash09:50
well_laid_lawn!flash64 | szal09:51
ubottuszal: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:51
szalwell_laid_lawn: the part about 64bit Flash on that page is now obsolete09:54
well_laid_lawnk09:54
szalhence my question09:55
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amouHi10:49
djhello10:49
djanyone here10:53
BluesKajhowdy all10:54
djwasup10:54
BluesKaj!pm | dj10:55
ubottudj: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.10:55
dji dont have a question, im bored and looking for someone to chat with10:57
dji think everyone is asleep10:58
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anathema_hi guys may i ask something11:00
djyes11:00
anathema_Im running 11.04 and I have no sound11:00
BluesKajdj, this isn't a chat room , it's for kubuntu support...offtopic id kubuntu-offtopic11:00
anathema_Yesterday all were great. the sound worked like a charm. Now I want to full reset all sound settings11:00
anathema_I removed pulseaudio, pavucontrol and alsa-base11:01
anathema_and I reinstalled alsa-base only but the problem exists11:01
anathema_any idea?11:01
BluesKajanathema_, alsa-base and alsa-utils ?11:02
anathema_yeah11:03
anathema_I have 2 sound cards one onboard and the soundblaster audigy11:03
anathema_I see in Kmix settings that soundblaster is used11:03
BluesKajalsamixer settings as well ?11:03
anathema_alsamixer?11:03
anathema_which settings?11:04
BluesKajtype alsamixer in the terminal11:04
anathema_yeah11:04
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anathema_all the bars are ok11:04
anathema_The pulseaudio and pavucontrol is importand?11:05
anathema_because I can't remember if pulseaudio was installed by setup or by me11:06
BluesKajanathema_, , make sure all the relavent ctrls aren't muted , use the M key to unmute in the ctrl box , and the arrow keys to increase the volume11:06
anathema_BluesKaj, before one second I typed: sudo alsa force-reload11:07
anathema_and now when I type alsamixer11:07
anathema_it says that is alsamixer11:07
anathema_cannot open mixer: No such file or directory11:07
anathema_:P11:07
anathema_epic fail11:07
BluesKajit's not epic , it' aminor problem11:08
anathema_what i must type now :p11:08
anathema_is there any way to remove and purge all sound setings from my machine? and to restore the sound settings to setup default (that worked)11:08
BluesKajreboot your pc11:08
anathema_ok i will reboot but i want to purge all settings11:09
anathema_and packages and to reinstall again11:09
anathema_but I dont know what packages to remove and setup11:09
BluesKajyou don't need to purge11:09
anathema_how to restore the default?11:09
BluesKajinstall alsa-base and alsa-utils and pulseaudio11:10
anathema_ok11:10
anathema_pulseaudio is installed by the setup?11:10
LantiziaHey is gksu available on kubuntu?  i'm trying to write a script that when double clicked on (with +x set) in either nautilus or dolphin - it'll relaunch itself as super user mode so it can install something.11:12
anathema_reboot and I will rejoin here11:12
anathema_thanks BluesKaj I will rejoin11:12
anathema_BluesKaj, alsamixer is not muted. Master has red color11:15
anathema_and S/PIF is 0 and I can't raise it11:15
BluesKajinstall pulseaudio11:16
anathema_I have installed11:16
anathema_pulseaudio is already the newest version.11:17
BluesKajdoes spdif actually have a vol ctrl11:17
anathema_when I type M I hear a sound in my speakers11:17
anathema_like noise :p11:17
BluesKajyes tha spdif is for your digital out to an audio device that converts to analog11:18
anathema_ok11:19
BluesKajnot to your spkrs11:19
anathema_pulseaudio is installed11:19
anathema_but no sound11:19
anathema_when I type aplay -l11:19
anathema_I saw many cards :P11:19
anathema_3 devices with the same name11:19
BluesKajwhich card shows in alsamixer?11:19
BluesKajthose are the outputs and inputs11:20
anathema_CA010611:20
anathema_is the audigy11:20
anathema_I have and one card that is onboard11:20
anathema_I went to Phonon in music category11:21
anathema_it shows: CA0106 Soundblaster Analog Stereo11:21
anathema_but when I click test no sound  P11:22
BluesKajin phonon , dot the test and choose whichever device in the list works11:22
anathema_Phonon in Music tab: shows only the above11:22
anathema_there are another 3 in the list but disabled (gray color)11:22
anathema_to the speaker setup:11:23
anathema_I have Analog Stereo Duplex is that corect?11:23
BluesKajdunno , depends on your card , you have to try different setings11:25
anathema_hmm11:25
anathema_What to do now?11:26
anathema_THe sound suddendly stopped :(11:26
anathema_after reboot11:26
anathema_it worked like a charm and it also now works on winxp11:26
anathema_in the same pc11:26
BluesKajanathema_, are you on 11.04 ?11:28
anathema_yeah11:29
anathema_fully updated kubuntu 11.0411:29
anathema_and yesterday the sound worked11:29
anathema_untill yesterday11:29
anathema_:)11:29
BluesKajupdate again11:30
anathema_nothing to update11:30
BluesKajtry another reboot ..that's all i can think of11:32
anathema_thanks anyway11:33
anathema_i have rebooted 10000 times;P it's not windows hahaha11:33
anathema_I tried many things in the speakers output settings11:34
kuruminoi11:49
kuruminoi11:50
nogzhelo12:01
nogzI have a question. Why does not affect the load distribution option off ACPI & APIC in the BIOS?12:05
nogzasdasd12:09
nogzasdaSDAsdaD12:09
nogzASD12:09
szaljfi: I now installed Flash64-final via Flash Aid (Firefox plugin)12:10
seemawnhi12:17
seemawnis kubuntu 11.04 kinda buggy or sth?>12:17
phoenix_firebrdseemawn: why?12:17
seemawni mean it crashed several times, wihthin a few days, and memtest reports mem ok12:18
seemawneven the installation failed.12:18
phoenix_firebrdseemawn: crashes at boot ?12:18
seemawnthe installation crashed on boot with a panic (so i installed ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop), then it crashed during work12:19
phoenix_firebrddo you get any error messages?12:20
seemawnloading akonadi -> crash. Loading a pdf-document in okular -> crash.12:20
seemawnnope, the system was not usable anymore12:20
seemawnperhaps there is sth in the logs, but atm it is running a hdd-test on bios12:20
seemawnso I cannot check. sry12:20
phoenix_firebrdseemawn: did you check for any broken packages?12:21
seemawnhow can I do that?12:21
seemawni mean, I did not enounter any problems during install. I mean the third-way-install12:21
phoenix_firebrdseemawn: try starting any application that crash using a terminal and see if it gives any error message12:23
seemawnphoenix_firebrd: ok12:23
phoenix_firebrdseemawn: try using this command "sudo apt-get check", if you have any dependency issues run this "sudo apt-get -f install"12:27
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wris there something like top, but for network IO?12:50
cherHehe I just found a bug in nethack.13:30
cherHey, where's the "move window to back" button gone in the window menu? :(13:32
cherOh I hate regression in the user interface :(13:33
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Bulldozerciao qualcuno sa come ottimizzare kubuntu 11.04 per netbook13:40
Bulldozer?13:40
cherUhm, English?13:42
cprgmswr2Hi]13:50
Linkmasterhello13:50
cprgmswr2Hi13:51
ronnocI think it's time to install Kubuntu 11.10 now, as upgrading has that bug. All reports seem to indicate the Beta is stable now. Is that everyone's general consensus?14:17
BlaXpiritwhy not wait half a week for the official release?14:17
bazhang3 days til final14:18
cherI just updated flash, and now I have no sound in flash :(14:19
bazhangupdated how14:20
cherMuon said there's a security patch. (Or was it kpackagekit?)14:21
bazhangwhat version now14:22
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cherThe version of flashplugin-installer now is 11.0.1.152ubuntu0.11.04.114:23
bazhang!info flashplugin-installer14:23
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.0.1.152ubuntu0.11.04.1 (natty), package size 8 kB, installed size 184 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)14:23
bazhangodd14:23
cherYesterday flash was still working fine. I upgraded to the new package half an hour ago, and now I have no sound for flash.14:24
cprgmswr2kubuntu 11.10 rocks14:25
chercprgmswr2: Do you have an ATI graphics card?14:26
cprgmswr2Yep14:26
cprgmswr2ATI Radion HD 567014:26
cherAnd no problems with kubuntu 11.10 regarding amd driver?14:27
cprgmswr2nope, but I have not installed the amd propriotery driver14:27
chercprgmswr2: How fast is 3D for you with the free driver?14:28
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cprgmswr2Its fast enough to show a rotation cube14:28
cprgmswr2I have not benchmarked it though14:29
cherBah I think it's not the flash that's broken. I uninstalled pulseaudio because it sucks. But everything in the system still references pulse audio. I'll try a reboot, maybe it needs more than just one reboot to fix itself.14:29
cprgmswr2glxgears renders nicely14:30
cprgmswr257 FPS14:30
cprgmswr2oops14:30
cprgmswr2296 frames per second14:30
cprgmswr2is that slow?14:30
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cherOkay I found out why sound in flash was no longer working. I also uninstalled pulseaudio. Because KDE sound worked, I thought everything was still working.14:39
cherHowever, uninstalling pulseaudio seems to leave the system with a trashed sound config. Neither flash nor mplayer were able to play sound.14:39
cherSo I installed pulseaudio again - which I don't like because imo it's crap.14:40
cprgmswr2you do realize cher that kde uses pulseaudio to play sound right14:40
midilinkhello, what's the best way to use a midikeyboard on kde?14:40
chercprgmswr2: Well, KDE was playing sound fine without pulseaudio.14:40
cprgmswr2Oh14:41
cprgmswr2mabye it reverted to using alsa nativelly14:41
cherYep it did, and somehow KDE managed to but most apps did not.14:41
bazhangkde?14:41
cprgmswr2that sounds about right14:41
tyhguhey14:45
ronnocBlaXpirit: I'm impatient! :)14:50
ronnocJust for the (public) record, every flash issue I ever had went away since installing Flash-Aid Firefox plug-in. I wouldn't install a system without it.14:54
csucsu734jó napot .))))15:01
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yogaI do sudo apt-get upgrade, I get this error messages16:29
yogacryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda516:29
yogacryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab16:29
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yogaI am on 11.1116:29
yogaAny idea?16:29
DaemonFCit's a bug that seems to come up sometimes16:32
DaemonFCif your drives aren't encrypted you can just ignore it or remove cryptosetup to make it shut up16:32
yogaDaemonFC: Thanks.16:37
yogaafter apt-get upgrade I got no sound!16:38
yogaHow do I trouble shoot sound?16:39
cherIs there something like uloop for linux?16:39
cheryoga: Where exactly do you have no sound? Everywhere or just specific applications?16:39
DaemonFCyoga: you might just want to try restarting first16:40
yogacher: both youtube in chrome, and Amaork get no sound.16:40
cheryoga: Do you have sound from KDE?16:40
DaemonFCPulseaudio probably messed something up16:40
yogaDaemonFC: ok, I'll retstart.16:40
yogacher: sound from KDE?16:41
DaemonFCor you can use pulseaudio --restart16:41
DaemonFCI think that's it anyway16:41
cheryoga: Yes, when you start KDE, stop KDE, dialogs popup etc., the KDE sounds - do they still work, or are they gone, too?16:41
BluesKajyoga, open sytem settings>multimedia>phonon , run the test on your devices and choose the one that works16:41
yogait says, KDE detected that one or more internal devices were removed.16:43
yogaDo you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?16:43
cherHrmpf... why is the "Task Scheduler" in the system settings not just simply called "cron"...16:44
cheryoga: Sounds like pulseaudio is gone.16:44
cheryoga: Can you check if pulseaudio is still installed?16:44
midilinkhello, can someone help me setup my midikeyboard on kubuntu?16:48
yogacher: what command should I use to check package?16:48
cherdpkg-query -W pulseaudio16:49
yogacher: its installed16:52
cheryoga: Have you already tried what BluesKaj said?16:53
yogacher: I cannot, it seem the "Internal Audio Analog sterio" is not highlight.16:55
yogacher: and in the Audio Hardware setup tab, there is no "sound card"16:56
cherHave you already tried rebooting?16:57
yogacher: there is ony a "Dummy Output", and when test , no sound.16:57
BluesKajyoga, alsamixer in the terminal16:57
yogacher: not yet.16:57
yogaalsamixer says, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory16:58
yoga 16:58
yogacher: BluesKaj: I'll reboot now.16:59
cherYay, that's where we're heading towards with Linux. 15 years ago, the only need for a reboot was if the kernel was to be changed. Nowadays Linux feels like Windows. *sigh*16:59
Daskreechhi cher17:00
cherHi :)17:00
DaskreechGot your problem sorted out with the desktopeffects?17:00
cherWoah I had to completely disable them. After I attached a second monitor and configured for Xinerama, KDE kept crashing and showing totally strange effects like confusing the screens that I  had to disable desktop effects completely.17:01
cherBut now that desktop effects are disabled, most of the issues are gone.17:01
DaskreechOK17:02
cherThe paradox thing about this is that I installed the proprietary AMD driver to have speedy desktop effects in the first place...17:02
Daskreech:-) File a bug against both if you can17:02
Daskreechor ask in #kwin they may know if it's specifically one of the effects causing the issue17:02
* Daskreech places bets on blur17:02
cherI didn't have the time yet. I'm so busy fiiling bug reports to Oracle (Java) and Google (Android)...17:02
jbwiv__anyone know what the difference between the kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-full packages are?17:03
Daskreechjbwiv__: one has more dependencies17:04
cherAlthough I prepared my desk for hunting kubuntu bugs already http://www.riedquat.de/blog/2011-09-01-03 I didn't find the time to systematically track them down yet. I think I'd rather wait for 11.10 anyway - doesn't make sense to test 11.04 now.17:04
Daskreechcher: Dangerous ground there :)17:04
jbwiv__Daskreech: I'd like to install kubuntu alongside Unity. Which should I choose?17:04
cherWhy dangerous? :)17:04
Daskreechjbwiv__: kubuntu-desktop should be sufficient17:04
cheryoga: Problem solved?17:05
Daskreechcher: Oracle (java) and Android aren't nice playfellows right now17:05
cherWell, yes. The Android API is full of quirks, and many parts of Java look like abandonware.17:05
yogacher: problem solved, I get sound in Amarok again.17:06
yogaThanks.17:06
cheryoga: Yw - I didn't really do anything anyway.17:06
webohhow do I switch languages in LibreOffice say as to type different language without changing the default language?17:11
webohHow do I type greek in Ubuntu?17:13
elkngI trying to kill Xorg its restarted, how to kill it entirely ?17:19
webohinstall language support. I got it17:19
elkngI run kubuntu 10.10 on netbook, where is regular KDE desktop ?17:25
elkngwhere is main menu ?17:26
elkngbutton with "K" on it ?17:26
TheLastProjectelkng: System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Workspace -> Workspace Type17:26
Daskreechweboh: You can change the language in KDE as well I think17:26
TheLastProjectDesktop = Default, Netbook = Netbook17:27
Daskreechelkng: what are you trying to do?17:27
elkngDaskreech: trying to use it as usual KDE, but its not regular KDE desktop, and entire environment is unusual, cant use it17:28
Daskreechelkng: ah follow TheLastProject's suggestion17:34
cherI'm trying to do some MIDI stuff using Rosegarden, Hydrogen and amSynth. The timing sounds very poor. (A 7 MHz Amiga 500 had more precise timing...) What might be the cause of that?17:46
cherI tried modprobe snd-rtctimer but there seems to be no such kernel module.17:48
Daskreechcher: what sound server are you using>?18:02
cherpulseaudio?18:02
DaskreechUmm Right >_>18:02
DaskreechI guess Gstreamer behind that then?18:02
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cherDaskreech: Yes, gstreamer.19:16
cherBut I guess that it's not only the audio stream, but already the midi that's not in sync. I don't know for sure, though.19:17
Daskreechok19:36
fjgaroshola19:42
fjgarosAlguien de mallorca?19:42
DaskreechHola19:42
Daskreech!es19:42
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.19:42
cherShouldn't someone from Mallorca be looking for #ubuntu-de instead? I mean, since Mallorca is one of Germanys 17 states...19:43
Daskreechfjgaros: German19:50
Daskreech?19:50
Daskreechcher: Maybe :)19:50
DaskreechAsk the person asking19:50
cherI was only joking anyway :)19:50
Daskreechfjgaros: ¿Qué estás buscando?19:51
Daskreechdamn19:51
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SirLinuxanyone using psybnc ?19:54
DaskreechSirLinux: Want to ask the second question?19:55
SirLinuxOk Daskreech19:56
SirLinuxI'm using psybnc, i cant remember the password i added, now i'm into the psybnc.conf well ... there is the password but is crypted, any ideea what type of crypted is ?19:57
DaskreechProbably blow encryption but I think you can change it20:03
SirLinuxyeah weird that cmd displayed a password but still not working20:03
BarkingFish!restricted20:51
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:51
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tdignanIs there some good disk janitor program that has a list of places it could possibly clean, like ccleaner for windows?21:48
tdignanmv ./* junk worked well so far :)21:50
BluesKajtdignan, to rid your setup of left overs , unnneeded pkgs etc do, sudo apt-get autoremove21:52
tdignanNothing there :)21:53
BluesKajor the the dangerous rm -rf command . if you know what you want to get rid of that won't be removed by apt or the package manager21:54
Daskreech!info filelight21:56
ubottufilelight (source: kdeutils): show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.6.5-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 281 kB, installed size 696 kB21:56
no|shutdown~~~21:57
no|shutdownwho knows how to edit packed 'images' for grub?21:58
BluesKajlinux images/kernels ?21:58
no|shutdownyep21:59
no|shutdowni want to go into those readonly packs and edit one of them21:59
Snowhogtdignan: Check out http://igurublog.wordpress.com/downloads/script-kscrubber/21:59
BluesKajhighligt the kernel and use the "e" key to edit22:00
BluesKajno|shutdown,^22:00
no|shutdownBlues?22:00
tdignanBluesKaj: awesome22:00
no|shutdowni don't understan22:00
no|shutdownd22:01
yofelno|shutdown: what exactly are you trying to do?22:01
yofelthe kernel images are built at kernel build time, initrd images are built by update-initramfs22:01
no|shutdownyofel: there is a file in initrd.img-2.6.39.4 that i want to replace22:01
no|shutdownyofel: that file is in /boot grub uses it as choice22:01
no|shutdownyofel: but i can't extract or recompress the package, i can mount it though.22:02
Daskreechtdignan: ^^^ In case you missed it22:02
BarkingFishGuys - I need some help here. Not sure what's gone wrong, but this just appeared on my screen while trying to install something:22:02
BarkingFishSoftware index is broken22:03
BarkingFishThis is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'.22:03
no|shutdownyofel: update-initramfs and then update?22:03
DaskreechBarkingFish: And what happened after you did that?22:03
BarkingFishIt's still coming up.22:03
yofelno|shutdown: I'm not quite sure, I know that edits to initrd's are done by update-initramfs in ubuntu22:03
yofelyou can probably read /usr/sbin/update-initramfs how it updates them22:04
BarkingFishi'm trying to install a .deb called Pencil - it's a free equivalent to flash22:04
no|shutdownyofel: that should be enough information then, thanks for point me in the right direction :22:04
no|shutdown:]22:04
tdignanOh, sorry, mean't Snowhog22:05
tdignanmeant*22:05
yofelBarkingFish: try running what it said... or does it still happen?22:05
BarkingFishi just tried from the konsole and got another error, it's odd because I've not altered the list of sources at all22:06
BarkingFishE: Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)22:06
BarkingFishE: The list of sources could not be read.22:06
BarkingFishI've not altered that file at all.22:06
yofelcan you look up what line 59 is? (if there is on line 59 look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* )22:06
yofels/on/no/22:06
yofeladded a PPA?22:07
BarkingFishLine 59, according to KATE is: deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main22:07
DaskreechIs there a line above that?22:08
Daskreechor better below that?22:08
BarkingFishThere are several below, all pointing to the dutch archive, which is odd... I don't use the nl archive :)22:09
BarkingFishI'll have them all out of the source list22:09
Daskreechcomment them out22:09
* BluesKaj wonders about some deb ppas and how they affect apt/sources22:10
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yofelhaven't seen add-apt-repository break anything there yet, only manual edits usually go wrong22:11
BarkingFishyofel, I've never accessed the NL pools for anything - I wouldn't, since I'm in the UK and Kent is only about 90 miles from here22:12
yofelleaves us wondering how they got in there...22:12
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BarkingFishyour guess is as good as mine right now22:13
BluesKajBarkingFish, what's pencil ?22:15
BarkingFishIt's basically a free equivalent to flash, you can do animation and stuff in it22:16
BluesKaj!pencil22:17
BarkingFishI now have another problem. Having fixed the sources list, kpackagekit is now refusing to install anything, saying it failed to obtain authentication.  I bet polkit has gone down22:18
BarkingFish!info pencil natty22:18
ubottupencil (source: pencil): animation/drawing software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4b-0ubuntu4 (natty), package size 478 kB, installed size 1196 kB22:18
BluesKajPencil lets you create traditional hand-drawn animations (cartoons) using both bitmap and vector graphics.22:18
BluesKajquote fro synaptic ^22:19
BluesKajhmm, doesn't mention it's a substitute for flash tho22:20
BarkingFishRight. I know what's wrong now. Polkit-1 has gone and done a segmentation fault.  I don't know how to restart it, or if I have to reboot.22:21
gomiboyafaik the only flash substitute is lightspark22:24
BarkingFishgomiboy, Well I'll go install it, assuming I can get anything to actually let me in to do it :)22:26
BluesKajBBL ..dinner22:27
gomiboyBarkingFish: open a terminal and use apt-get, no polkit involved22:28
kvvtest23:00
tomas__I am still not able to get sound from Flash 11. Anyone ever figured this one out before?23:59

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