[01:38] Woah... on kubuntu 11.04 and AMD hardware, Compiz and Xinerama just don't work together :( [01:39] It seems the kubuntu test and configuration center is sponsored by Intel. [02:13] Which package is the engine of the KDE desktop effects? [02:13] I want to remove it to prevent myself from accidently enabling it. [02:15] kwin [02:21] cher: kde-window-manager [02:21] Uhm... sounds a bit essential to KDE. [02:34] Hi there, recently Kubuntu asked me to update Adobe Flash (which I did) and now it won't work. Can someone please give me some pointers? [02:34] !flash [02:34] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash === dan is now known as Guest26775 [03:52] Hello === Guest26775 is now known as thedanyes [03:53] Hello [03:53] Is there a better way to identify devices to Alsa and Jackd other that hw:1, hw:0, etc? [03:54] My sound device numbers get screwed up when I plug in USB Midi controllers and other things. [03:54] Maybe they can be identified by usb bus/device number, or hardware mfr/device id? === rooty is now known as rootylocalhost === Axlin is now known as Axlin|MB === shark is now known as Guest53177 === Guest53177 is now known as thecloser === thecloser is now known as salesshark === matt is now known as Guest44106 [05:17] hi! I got an update few days ago that MESSED up my setup... [05:17] now the desktop is enclosed in a window [05:18] and I cannot delete that window and go back to a normal desktop like it has been since KDEv0 [05:18] what can I do? [05:19] I also have a backup, do you think the desktop settings and more in general KDE settings are in a config file I can retrieve? [07:21] I need some help with g++ and cc is anyone available? [07:23] it usually helps if you just ask a question, if someone knows the answer (s)he will likely respond [07:25] Well... I would but this is a lot of terminal crap I dont understand lol [07:25] !pastebin [07:25] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [07:26] then explain what you're trying to do with a link to the pastebinned terminal output ^^ [07:30] Alright I did, Sorry; new to IRC [07:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/704762/ ... is this needed? [07:33] no problem, we all were new to this once [07:34] lol [07:36] what does it look like I need to do with my compiler's issue? this is a fresh install and everything. I think that an IDE that I installed crippled it but I'm unsure. [07:39] Its called Anjuta. [07:43] I'm not able to help you with that, you might want to ask in a c++ designated channel ##c++ (click it or type /join ##c++), also ask your question inline and link to the terminal output [07:43] gl [07:43] rork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:43] rork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:50] thanks rork. === Doc_Savage96__ is now known as Doc_Savage96 === volodya_ is now known as volodya === massimo is now known as Guest98629 === vsrao_ is now known as vsrao === vsrao_ is now known as vsrao === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === s is now known as Guest30693 [09:37] hi [09:37] the font in my login screen is huge after I changed to a hdmi cable to connect my pc to my monitor. How do I change the login screen font for kubuntu 11.04 [09:50] aptitude tells me that flashplugin64-installer is newly obsolete.. I wonder how I should go about bringing Flash 11 to release version, since the info for flashplugin-installer shows it depending on nspluginwrapper, and I don't wanna go 32bit w/ Flash [09:51] !flash64 | szal [09:51] szal: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava [09:54] well_laid_lawn: the part about 64bit Flash on that page is now obsolete [09:54] k [09:55] hence my question === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:49] Hi [10:49] hello [10:53] anyone here [10:54] howdy all [10:54] wasup [10:55] !pm | dj [10:55] dj: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [10:57] i dont have a question, im bored and looking for someone to chat with [10:58] i think everyone is asleep === anathema is now known as anathema_ [11:00] hi guys may i ask something [11:00] yes [11:00] Im running 11.04 and I have no sound [11:00] dj, this isn't a chat room , it's for kubuntu support...offtopic id kubuntu-offtopic [11:00] Yesterday all were great. the sound worked like a charm. Now I want to full reset all sound settings [11:01] I removed pulseaudio, pavucontrol and alsa-base [11:01] and I reinstalled alsa-base only but the problem exists [11:01] any idea? [11:02] anathema_, alsa-base and alsa-utils ? [11:03] yeah [11:03] I have 2 sound cards one onboard and the soundblaster audigy [11:03] I see in Kmix settings that soundblaster is used [11:03] alsamixer settings as well ? [11:03] alsamixer? [11:04] which settings? [11:04] type alsamixer in the terminal [11:04] yeah === insegnante is now known as markit [11:04] all the bars are ok [11:05] The pulseaudio and pavucontrol is importand? [11:06] because I can't remember if pulseaudio was installed by setup or by me [11:06] anathema_, , make sure all the relavent ctrls aren't muted , use the M key to unmute in the ctrl box , and the arrow keys to increase the volume [11:07] BluesKaj, before one second I typed: sudo alsa force-reload [11:07] and now when I type alsamixer [11:07] it says that is alsamixer [11:07] cannot open mixer: No such file or directory [11:07] :P [11:07] epic fail [11:08] it's not epic , it' aminor problem [11:08] what i must type now :p [11:08] is there any way to remove and purge all sound setings from my machine? and to restore the sound settings to setup default (that worked) [11:08] reboot your pc [11:09] ok i will reboot but i want to purge all settings [11:09] and packages and to reinstall again [11:09] but I dont know what packages to remove and setup [11:09] you don't need to purge [11:09] how to restore the default? [11:10] install alsa-base and alsa-utils and pulseaudio [11:10] ok [11:10] pulseaudio is installed by the setup? [11:12] Hey is gksu available on kubuntu? i'm trying to write a script that when double clicked on (with +x set) in either nautilus or dolphin - it'll relaunch itself as super user mode so it can install something. [11:12] reboot and I will rejoin here [11:12] thanks BluesKaj I will rejoin [11:15] BluesKaj, alsamixer is not muted. Master has red color [11:15] and S/PIF is 0 and I can't raise it [11:16] install pulseaudio [11:16] I have installed [11:17] pulseaudio is already the newest version. [11:17] does spdif actually have a vol ctrl [11:17] when I type M I hear a sound in my speakers [11:17] like noise :p [11:18] yes tha spdif is for your digital out to an audio device that converts to analog [11:19] ok [11:19] not to your spkrs [11:19] pulseaudio is installed [11:19] but no sound [11:19] when I type aplay -l [11:19] I saw many cards :P [11:19] 3 devices with the same name [11:19] which card shows in alsamixer? [11:20] those are the outputs and inputs [11:20] CA0106 [11:20] is the audigy [11:20] I have and one card that is onboard [11:21] I went to Phonon in music category [11:21] it shows: CA0106 Soundblaster Analog Stereo [11:22] but when I click test no sound P [11:22] in phonon , dot the test and choose whichever device in the list works [11:22] Phonon in Music tab: shows only the above [11:22] there are another 3 in the list but disabled (gray color) [11:23] to the speaker setup: [11:23] I have Analog Stereo Duplex is that corect? [11:25] dunno , depends on your card , you have to try different setings [11:25] hmm [11:26] What to do now? [11:26] THe sound suddendly stopped :( [11:26] after reboot [11:26] it worked like a charm and it also now works on winxp [11:26] in the same pc [11:28] anathema_, are you on 11.04 ? [11:29] yeah [11:29] fully updated kubuntu 11.04 [11:29] and yesterday the sound worked [11:29] untill yesterday [11:29] :) [11:30] update again [11:30] nothing to update [11:32] try another reboot ..that's all i can think of [11:33] thanks anyway [11:33] i have rebooted 10000 times;P it's not windows hahaha [11:34] I tried many things in the speakers output settings [11:49] oi [11:50] oi [12:01] helo [12:05] I have a question. Why does not affect the load distribution option off ACPI & APIC in the BIOS? [12:09] asdasd [12:09] asdaSDAsdaD [12:09] ASD [12:10] jfi: I now installed Flash64-final via Flash Aid (Firefox plugin) [12:17] hi [12:17] is kubuntu 11.04 kinda buggy or sth?> [12:17] seemawn: why? [12:18] i mean it crashed several times, wihthin a few days, and memtest reports mem ok [12:18] even the installation failed. [12:18] seemawn: crashes at boot ? [12:19] the installation crashed on boot with a panic (so i installed ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop), then it crashed during work [12:20] do you get any error messages? [12:20] loading akonadi -> crash. Loading a pdf-document in okular -> crash. [12:20] nope, the system was not usable anymore [12:20] perhaps there is sth in the logs, but atm it is running a hdd-test on bios [12:20] so I cannot check. sry [12:21] seemawn: did you check for any broken packages? [12:21] how can I do that? [12:21] i mean, I did not enounter any problems during install. I mean the third-way-install [12:23] seemawn: try starting any application that crash using a terminal and see if it gives any error message [12:23] phoenix_firebrd: ok [12:27] seemawn: try using this command "sudo apt-get check", if you have any dependency issues run this "sudo apt-get -f install" === alper is now known as BadJoke [12:50] is there something like top, but for network IO? [13:30] Hehe I just found a bug in nethack. [13:32] Hey, where's the "move window to back" button gone in the window menu? :( [13:33] Oh I hate regression in the user interface :( === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [13:40] ciao qualcuno sa come ottimizzare kubuntu 11.04 per netbook [13:40] ? [13:42] Uhm, English? [13:50] Hi] [13:50] hello [13:51] Hi [14:17] I think it's time to install Kubuntu 11.10 now, as upgrading has that bug. All reports seem to indicate the Beta is stable now. Is that everyone's general consensus? [14:17] why not wait half a week for the official release? [14:18] 3 days til final [14:19] I just updated flash, and now I have no sound in flash :( [14:20] updated how [14:21] Muon said there's a security patch. (Or was it kpackagekit?) [14:22] what version now === professor_ is now known as juliana_s [14:23] The version of flashplugin-installer now is 11.0.1.152ubuntu0.11.04.1 [14:23] !info flashplugin-installer [14:23] flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.0.1.152ubuntu0.11.04.1 (natty), package size 8 kB, installed size 184 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) [14:23] odd [14:24] Yesterday flash was still working fine. I upgraded to the new package half an hour ago, and now I have no sound for flash. [14:25] kubuntu 11.10 rocks [14:26] cprgmswr2: Do you have an ATI graphics card? [14:26] Yep [14:26] ATI Radion HD 5670 [14:27] And no problems with kubuntu 11.10 regarding amd driver? [14:27] nope, but I have not installed the amd propriotery driver [14:28] cprgmswr2: How fast is 3D for you with the free driver? === administrator is now known as Guest61189 [14:28] Its fast enough to show a rotation cube [14:29] I have not benchmarked it though [14:29] Bah I think it's not the flash that's broken. I uninstalled pulseaudio because it sucks. But everything in the system still references pulse audio. I'll try a reboot, maybe it needs more than just one reboot to fix itself. [14:30] glxgears renders nicely [14:30] 57 FPS [14:30] oops [14:30] 296 frames per second [14:30] is that slow? === dev__ is now known as tonymc === insegnante is now known as markit [14:39] Okay I found out why sound in flash was no longer working. I also uninstalled pulseaudio. Because KDE sound worked, I thought everything was still working. [14:39] However, uninstalling pulseaudio seems to leave the system with a trashed sound config. Neither flash nor mplayer were able to play sound. [14:40] So I installed pulseaudio again - which I don't like because imo it's crap. [14:40] you do realize cher that kde uses pulseaudio to play sound right [14:40] hello, what's the best way to use a midikeyboard on kde? [14:40] cprgmswr2: Well, KDE was playing sound fine without pulseaudio. [14:41] Oh [14:41] mabye it reverted to using alsa nativelly [14:41] Yep it did, and somehow KDE managed to but most apps did not. [14:41] kde? [14:41] that sounds about right [14:45] hey [14:50] BlaXpirit: I'm impatient! :) [14:54] Just for the (public) record, every flash issue I ever had went away since installing Flash-Aid Firefox plug-in. I wouldn't install a system without it. [15:01] jó napot .)))) === dev_ is now known as tonymc [16:29] I do sudo apt-get upgrade, I get this error messages [16:29] cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda5 [16:29] cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab === serg is now known as Guest28755 [16:29] I am on 11.11 [16:29] Any idea? [16:32] it's a bug that seems to come up sometimes [16:32] if your drives aren't encrypted you can just ignore it or remove cryptosetup to make it shut up [16:37] DaemonFC: Thanks. [16:38] after apt-get upgrade I got no sound! [16:39] How do I trouble shoot sound? [16:39] Is there something like uloop for linux? [16:39] yoga: Where exactly do you have no sound? Everywhere or just specific applications? [16:40] yoga: you might just want to try restarting first [16:40] cher: both youtube in chrome, and Amaork get no sound. [16:40] yoga: Do you have sound from KDE? [16:40] Pulseaudio probably messed something up [16:40] DaemonFC: ok, I'll retstart. [16:41] cher: sound from KDE? [16:41] or you can use pulseaudio --restart [16:41] I think that's it anyway [16:41] yoga: Yes, when you start KDE, stop KDE, dialogs popup etc., the KDE sounds - do they still work, or are they gone, too? [16:41] yoga, open sytem settings>multimedia>phonon , run the test on your devices and choose the one that works [16:43] it says, KDE detected that one or more internal devices were removed. [16:43] Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices? [16:44] Hrmpf... why is the "Task Scheduler" in the system settings not just simply called "cron"... [16:44] yoga: Sounds like pulseaudio is gone. [16:44] yoga: Can you check if pulseaudio is still installed? [16:48] hello, can someone help me setup my midikeyboard on kubuntu? [16:48] cher: what command should I use to check package? [16:49] dpkg-query -W pulseaudio [16:52] cher: its installed [16:53] yoga: Have you already tried what BluesKaj said? [16:55] cher: I cannot, it seem the "Internal Audio Analog sterio" is not highlight. [16:56] cher: and in the Audio Hardware setup tab, there is no "sound card" [16:57] Have you already tried rebooting? [16:57] cher: there is ony a "Dummy Output", and when test , no sound. [16:57] yoga, alsamixer in the terminal [16:57] cher: not yet. [16:58] alsamixer says, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory [16:58] [16:59] cher: BluesKaj: I'll reboot now. [16:59] Yay, that's where we're heading towards with Linux. 15 years ago, the only need for a reboot was if the kernel was to be changed. Nowadays Linux feels like Windows. *sigh* [17:00] hi cher [17:00] Hi :) [17:00] Got your problem sorted out with the desktopeffects? [17:01] Woah I had to completely disable them. After I attached a second monitor and configured for Xinerama, KDE kept crashing and showing totally strange effects like confusing the screens that I had to disable desktop effects completely. [17:01] But now that desktop effects are disabled, most of the issues are gone. [17:02] OK [17:02] The paradox thing about this is that I installed the proprietary AMD driver to have speedy desktop effects in the first place... [17:02] :-) File a bug against both if you can [17:02] or ask in #kwin they may know if it's specifically one of the effects causing the issue [17:02] * Daskreech places bets on blur [17:02] I didn't have the time yet. I'm so busy fiiling bug reports to Oracle (Java) and Google (Android)... [17:03] anyone know what the difference between the kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-full packages are? [17:04] jbwiv__: one has more dependencies [17:04] Although I prepared my desk for hunting kubuntu bugs already http://www.riedquat.de/blog/2011-09-01-03 I didn't find the time to systematically track them down yet. I think I'd rather wait for 11.10 anyway - doesn't make sense to test 11.04 now. [17:04] cher: Dangerous ground there :) [17:04] Daskreech: I'd like to install kubuntu alongside Unity. Which should I choose? [17:04] Why dangerous? :) [17:04] jbwiv__: kubuntu-desktop should be sufficient [17:05] yoga: Problem solved? [17:05] cher: Oracle (java) and Android aren't nice playfellows right now [17:05] Well, yes. The Android API is full of quirks, and many parts of Java look like abandonware. [17:06] cher: problem solved, I get sound in Amarok again. [17:06] Thanks. [17:06] yoga: Yw - I didn't really do anything anyway. [17:11] how do I switch languages in LibreOffice say as to type different language without changing the default language? [17:13] How do I type greek in Ubuntu? [17:19] I trying to kill Xorg its restarted, how to kill it entirely ? [17:19] install language support. I got it [17:25] I run kubuntu 10.10 on netbook, where is regular KDE desktop ? [17:26] where is main menu ? [17:26] button with "K" on it ? [17:26] elkng: System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Workspace -> Workspace Type [17:26] weboh: You can change the language in KDE as well I think [17:27] Desktop = Default, Netbook = Netbook [17:27] elkng: what are you trying to do? [17:28] Daskreech: trying to use it as usual KDE, but its not regular KDE desktop, and entire environment is unusual, cant use it [17:34] elkng: ah follow TheLastProject's suggestion [17:46] I'm trying to do some MIDI stuff using Rosegarden, Hydrogen and amSynth. The timing sounds very poor. (A 7 MHz Amiga 500 had more precise timing...) What might be the cause of that? [17:48] I tried modprobe snd-rtctimer but there seems to be no such kernel module. [18:02] cher: what sound server are you using>? [18:02] pulseaudio? [18:02] Umm Right >_> [18:02] I guess Gstreamer behind that then? === jan__ is now known as Janneman [19:16] Daskreech: Yes, gstreamer. [19:17] But I guess that it's not only the audio stream, but already the midi that's not in sync. I don't know for sure, though. [19:36] ok [19:42] hola [19:42] Alguien de mallorca? [19:42] Hola [19:42] !es [19:42] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [19:43] Shouldn't someone from Mallorca be looking for #ubuntu-de instead? I mean, since Mallorca is one of Germanys 17 states... [19:50] fjgaros: German [19:50] ? [19:50] cher: Maybe :) [19:50] Ask the person asking [19:50] I was only joking anyway :) [19:51] fjgaros: ¿Qué estás buscando? [19:51] damn === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:54] anyone using psybnc ? [19:55] SirLinux: Want to ask the second question? [19:56] Ok Daskreech [19:57] I'm using psybnc, i cant remember the password i added, now i'm into the psybnc.conf well ... there is the password but is crypted, any ideea what type of crypted is ? [20:03] Probably blow encryption but I think you can change it [20:03] yeah weird that cmd displayed a password but still not working [20:51] !restricted [20:51] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === BarkingFish is now known as Guest79173 === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [21:48] Is there some good disk janitor program that has a list of places it could possibly clean, like ccleaner for windows? [21:50] mv ./* junk worked well so far :) [21:52] tdignan, to rid your setup of left overs , unnneeded pkgs etc do, sudo apt-get autoremove [21:53] Nothing there :) [21:54] or the the dangerous rm -rf command . if you know what you want to get rid of that won't be removed by apt or the package manager [21:56] !info filelight [21:56] filelight (source: kdeutils): show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.6.5-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 281 kB, installed size 696 kB [21:57] ~~~ [21:58] who knows how to edit packed 'images' for grub? [21:58] linux images/kernels ? [21:59] yep [21:59] i want to go into those readonly packs and edit one of them [21:59] tdignan: Check out http://igurublog.wordpress.com/downloads/script-kscrubber/ [22:00] highligt the kernel and use the "e" key to edit [22:00] no|shutdown,^ [22:00] Blues? [22:00] BluesKaj: awesome [22:00] i don't understan [22:01] d [22:01] no|shutdown: what exactly are you trying to do? [22:01] the kernel images are built at kernel build time, initrd images are built by update-initramfs [22:01] yofel: there is a file in initrd.img-2.6.39.4 that i want to replace [22:01] yofel: that file is in /boot grub uses it as choice [22:02] yofel: but i can't extract or recompress the package, i can mount it though. [22:02] tdignan: ^^^ In case you missed it [22:02] Guys - I need some help here. Not sure what's gone wrong, but this just appeared on my screen while trying to install something: [22:03] Software index is broken [22:03] This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'. [22:03] yofel: update-initramfs and then update? [22:03] BarkingFish: And what happened after you did that? [22:03] It's still coming up. [22:03] no|shutdown: I'm not quite sure, I know that edits to initrd's are done by update-initramfs in ubuntu [22:04] you can probably read /usr/sbin/update-initramfs how it updates them [22:04] i'm trying to install a .deb called Pencil - it's a free equivalent to flash [22:04] yofel: that should be enough information then, thanks for point me in the right direction : [22:04] :] [22:05] Oh, sorry, mean't Snowhog [22:05] meant* [22:05] BarkingFish: try running what it said... or does it still happen? [22:06] i just tried from the konsole and got another error, it's odd because I've not altered the list of sources at all [22:06] E: Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) [22:06] E: The list of sources could not be read. [22:06] I've not altered that file at all. [22:06] can you look up what line 59 is? (if there is on line 59 look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ) [22:06] s/on/no/ [22:07] added a PPA? [22:07] Line 59, according to KATE is: deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main [22:08] Is there a line above that? [22:08] or better below that? [22:09] There are several below, all pointing to the dutch archive, which is odd... I don't use the nl archive :) [22:09] I'll have them all out of the source list [22:09] comment them out [22:10] * BluesKaj wonders about some deb ppas and how they affect apt/sources === LjL is now known as funkyHat5 [22:11] haven't seen add-apt-repository break anything there yet, only manual edits usually go wrong [22:12] yofel, I've never accessed the NL pools for anything - I wouldn't, since I'm in the UK and Kent is only about 90 miles from here [22:12] leaves us wondering how they got in there... === funkyHat5 is now known as LjL [22:13] your guess is as good as mine right now [22:15] BarkingFish, what's pencil ? [22:16] It's basically a free equivalent to flash, you can do animation and stuff in it [22:17] !pencil [22:18] I now have another problem. Having fixed the sources list, kpackagekit is now refusing to install anything, saying it failed to obtain authentication. I bet polkit has gone down [22:18] !info pencil natty [22:18] pencil (source: pencil): animation/drawing software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4b-0ubuntu4 (natty), package size 478 kB, installed size 1196 kB [22:18] Pencil lets you create traditional hand-drawn animations (cartoons) using both bitmap and vector graphics. [22:19] quote fro synaptic ^ [22:20] hmm, doesn't mention it's a substitute for flash tho [22:21] Right. I know what's wrong now. Polkit-1 has gone and done a segmentation fault. I don't know how to restart it, or if I have to reboot. [22:24] afaik the only flash substitute is lightspark [22:26] gomiboy, Well I'll go install it, assuming I can get anything to actually let me in to do it :) [22:27] BBL ..dinner [22:28] BarkingFish: open a terminal and use apt-get, no polkit involved [23:00]