[01:38] <cher> Woah... on kubuntu 11.04 and AMD hardware, Compiz and Xinerama just don't work together :(
[01:39] <cher> It seems the kubuntu test and configuration center is sponsored by Intel.
[02:13] <cher> Which package is the engine of the KDE desktop effects?
[02:13] <cher> I want to remove it to prevent myself from accidently enabling it.
[02:15] <Daskreech> kwin
[02:21] <Daskreech> cher: kde-window-manager
[02:21] <cher> Uhm... sounds a bit essential to KDE.
[02:34] <mark__> Hi there, recently Kubuntu asked me to update Adobe Flash (which I did) and now it won't work. Can someone please give me some pointers?
[02:34] <mark__> !flash
[03:52] <Guest26775> Hello
[03:53] <thedanyes> Hello
[03:53] <thedanyes> Is there a better way to identify devices to Alsa and Jackd other that hw:1, hw:0, etc?
[03:54] <thedanyes> My sound device numbers get screwed up when I plug in USB Midi controllers and other things.
[03:54] <thedanyes> Maybe they can be identified by usb bus/device number, or hardware mfr/device id?
[05:17] <alesan> hi! I got an update few days ago that MESSED up my setup...
[05:17] <alesan> now the desktop is enclosed in a window
[05:18] <alesan> and I cannot delete that window and go back to a normal desktop like it has been since KDEv0
[05:18] <alesan> what can I do?
[05:19] <alesan> I also have a backup, do you think the desktop settings and more in general KDE settings are in a config file I can retrieve?
[07:21] <kbhtech> I need some help with g++ and cc is anyone available?
[07:23] <rork> it usually helps if you just ask a question, if someone knows the answer (s)he will likely respond
[07:25] <kbhtech> Well... I would but this is a lot of terminal crap I dont understand lol
[07:25] <rork> !pastebin
[07:26] <rork> then explain what you're trying to do with a link to the pastebinned terminal output ^^
[07:30] <kbhtech> Alright I did, Sorry; new to IRC
[07:30] <kbhtech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/704762/ ... is this needed?
[07:33] <rork> no problem, we all were new to this once
[07:34] <kbhtech> lol
[07:36] <kbhtech> what does it look like I need to do with my compiler's issue? this is a fresh install and everything. I think that an IDE that I installed crippled it but I'm unsure.
[07:39] <kbhtech> Its called Anjuta.
[07:43] <rork> I'm not able to help you with that, you might want to ask in a c++ designated channel ##c++ (click it or type /join ##c++), also ask your question inline and link to the terminal output
[07:43] <rork> gl
[07:43] <FloodBotK2> rork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:43] <FloodBotK1> rork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <kbhtech> thanks rork.
[09:37] <wohnpal> hi
[09:37] <wohnpal> the font in my login screen is huge after I changed to a hdmi cable to connect my pc to my monitor. How do I change the login screen font for kubuntu 11.04
[09:50] <szal> aptitude tells me that flashplugin64-installer is newly obsolete..  I wonder how I should go about bringing Flash 11 to release version, since the info for flashplugin-installer shows it depending on nspluginwrapper, and I don't wanna go 32bit w/ Flash
[09:51] <well_laid_lawn> !flash64 | szal
[09:54] <szal> well_laid_lawn: the part about 64bit Flash on that page is now obsolete
[09:54] <well_laid_lawn> k
[09:55] <szal> hence my question
[10:49] <amou> Hi
[10:49] <dj> hello
[10:53] <dj> anyone here
[10:54] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[10:54] <dj> wasup
[10:55] <BluesKaj> !pm | dj
[10:57] <dj> i dont have a question, im bored and looking for someone to chat with
[10:58] <dj> i think everyone is asleep
[11:00] <anathema_> hi guys may i ask something
[11:00] <dj> yes
[11:00] <anathema_> Im running 11.04 and I have no sound
[11:00] <BluesKaj> dj, this isn't a chat room , it's for kubuntu support...offtopic id kubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <anathema_> Yesterday all were great. the sound worked like a charm. Now I want to full reset all sound settings
[11:01] <anathema_> I removed pulseaudio, pavucontrol and alsa-base
[11:01] <anathema_> and I reinstalled alsa-base only but the problem exists
[11:01] <anathema_> any idea?
[11:02] <BluesKaj> anathema_, alsa-base and alsa-utils ?
[11:03] <anathema_> yeah
[11:03] <anathema_> I have 2 sound cards one onboard and the soundblaster audigy
[11:03] <anathema_> I see in Kmix settings that soundblaster is used
[11:03] <BluesKaj> alsamixer settings as well ?
[11:03] <anathema_> alsamixer?
[11:04] <anathema_> which settings?
[11:04] <BluesKaj> type alsamixer in the terminal
[11:04] <anathema_> yeah
[11:04] <anathema_> all the bars are ok
[11:05] <anathema_> The pulseaudio and pavucontrol is importand?
[11:06] <anathema_> because I can't remember if pulseaudio was installed by setup or by me
[11:06] <BluesKaj> anathema_, , make sure all the relavent ctrls aren't muted , use the M key to unmute in the ctrl box , and the arrow keys to increase the volume
[11:07] <anathema_> BluesKaj, before one second I typed: sudo alsa force-reload
[11:07] <anathema_> and now when I type alsamixer
[11:07] <anathema_> it says that is alsamixer
[11:07] <anathema_> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[11:07] <anathema_> :P
[11:07] <anathema_> epic fail
[11:08] <BluesKaj> it's not epic , it' aminor problem
[11:08] <anathema_> what i must type now :p
[11:08] <anathema_> is there any way to remove and purge all sound setings from my machine? and to restore the sound settings to setup default (that worked)
[11:08] <BluesKaj> reboot your pc
[11:09] <anathema_> ok i will reboot but i want to purge all settings
[11:09] <anathema_> and packages and to reinstall again
[11:09] <anathema_> but I dont know what packages to remove and setup
[11:09] <BluesKaj> you don't need to purge
[11:09] <anathema_> how to restore the default?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> install alsa-base and alsa-utils and pulseaudio
[11:10] <anathema_> ok
[11:10] <anathema_> pulseaudio is installed by the setup?
[11:12] <Lantizia> Hey is gksu available on kubuntu?  i'm trying to write a script that when double clicked on (with +x set) in either nautilus or dolphin - it'll relaunch itself as super user mode so it can install something.
[11:12] <anathema_> reboot and I will rejoin here
[11:12] <anathema_> thanks BluesKaj I will rejoin
[11:15] <anathema_> BluesKaj, alsamixer is not muted. Master has red color
[11:15] <anathema_> and S/PIF is 0 and I can't raise it
[11:16] <BluesKaj> install pulseaudio
[11:16] <anathema_> I have installed
[11:17] <anathema_> pulseaudio is already the newest version.
[11:17] <BluesKaj> does spdif actually have a vol ctrl
[11:17] <anathema_> when I type M I hear a sound in my speakers
[11:17] <anathema_> like noise :p
[11:18] <BluesKaj> yes tha spdif is for your digital out to an audio device that converts to analog
[11:19] <anathema_> ok
[11:19] <BluesKaj> not to your spkrs
[11:19] <anathema_> pulseaudio is installed
[11:19] <anathema_> but no sound
[11:19] <anathema_> when I type aplay -l
[11:19] <anathema_> I saw many cards :P
[11:19] <anathema_> 3 devices with the same name
[11:19] <BluesKaj> which card shows in alsamixer?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> those are the outputs and inputs
[11:20] <anathema_> CA0106
[11:20] <anathema_> is the audigy
[11:20] <anathema_> I have and one card that is onboard
[11:21] <anathema_> I went to Phonon in music category
[11:21] <anathema_> it shows: CA0106 Soundblaster Analog Stereo
[11:22] <anathema_> but when I click test no sound  P
[11:22] <BluesKaj> in phonon , dot the test and choose whichever device in the list works
[11:22] <anathema_> Phonon in Music tab: shows only the above
[11:22] <anathema_> there are another 3 in the list but disabled (gray color)
[11:23] <anathema_> to the speaker setup:
[11:23] <anathema_> I have Analog Stereo Duplex is that corect?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> dunno , depends on your card , you have to try different setings
[11:25] <anathema_> hmm
[11:26] <anathema_> What to do now?
[11:26] <anathema_> THe sound suddendly stopped :(
[11:26] <anathema_> after reboot
[11:26] <anathema_> it worked like a charm and it also now works on winxp
[11:26] <anathema_> in the same pc
[11:28] <BluesKaj> anathema_, are you on 11.04 ?
[11:29] <anathema_> yeah
[11:29] <anathema_> fully updated kubuntu 11.04
[11:29] <anathema_> and yesterday the sound worked
[11:29] <anathema_> untill yesterday
[11:29] <anathema_> :)
[11:30] <BluesKaj> update again
[11:30] <anathema_> nothing to update
[11:32] <BluesKaj> try another reboot ..that's all i can think of
[11:33] <anathema_> thanks anyway
[11:33] <anathema_> i have rebooted 10000 times;P it's not windows hahaha
[11:34] <anathema_> I tried many things in the speakers output settings
[11:49] <kurumin> oi
[11:50] <kurumin> oi
[12:01] <nogz> helo
[12:05] <nogz> I have a question. Why does not affect the load distribution option off ACPI & APIC in the BIOS?
[12:09] <nogz> asdasd
[12:09] <nogz> asdaSDAsdaD
[12:09] <nogz> ASD
[12:10] <szal> jfi: I now installed Flash64-final via Flash Aid (Firefox plugin)
[12:17] <seemawn> hi
[12:17] <seemawn> is kubuntu 11.04 kinda buggy or sth?>
[12:17] <phoenix_firebrd> seemawn: why?
[12:18] <seemawn> i mean it crashed several times, wihthin a few days, and memtest reports mem ok
[12:18] <seemawn> even the installation failed.
[12:18] <phoenix_firebrd> seemawn: crashes at boot ?
[12:19] <seemawn> the installation crashed on boot with a panic (so i installed ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop), then it crashed during work
[12:20] <phoenix_firebrd> do you get any error messages?
[12:20] <seemawn> loading akonadi -> crash. Loading a pdf-document in okular -> crash.
[12:20] <seemawn> nope, the system was not usable anymore
[12:20] <seemawn> perhaps there is sth in the logs, but atm it is running a hdd-test on bios
[12:20] <seemawn> so I cannot check. sry
[12:21] <phoenix_firebrd> seemawn: did you check for any broken packages?
[12:21] <seemawn> how can I do that?
[12:21] <seemawn> i mean, I did not enounter any problems during install. I mean the third-way-install
[12:23] <phoenix_firebrd> seemawn: try starting any application that crash using a terminal and see if it gives any error message
[12:23] <seemawn> phoenix_firebrd: ok
[12:27] <phoenix_firebrd> seemawn: try using this command "sudo apt-get check", if you have any dependency issues run this "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:50] <wr> is there something like top, but for network IO?
[13:30] <cher> Hehe I just found a bug in nethack.
[13:32] <cher> Hey, where's the "move window to back" button gone in the window menu? :(
[13:33] <cher> Oh I hate regression in the user interface :(
[13:40] <Bulldozer> ciao qualcuno sa come ottimizzare kubuntu 11.04 per netbook
[13:40] <Bulldozer> ?
[13:42] <cher> Uhm, English?
[13:50] <cprgmswr2> Hi]
[13:50] <Linkmaster> hello
[13:51] <cprgmswr2> Hi
[14:17] <ronnoc> I think it's time to install Kubuntu 11.10 now, as upgrading has that bug. All reports seem to indicate the Beta is stable now. Is that everyone's general consensus?
[14:17] <BlaXpirit> why not wait half a week for the official release?
[14:18] <bazhang> 3 days til final
[14:19] <cher> I just updated flash, and now I have no sound in flash :(
[14:20] <bazhang> updated how
[14:21] <cher> Muon said there's a security patch. (Or was it kpackagekit?)
[14:22] <bazhang> what version now
[14:23] <cher> The version of flashplugin-installer now is 11.0.1.152ubuntu0.11.04.1
[14:23] <bazhang> !info flashplugin-installer
[14:23] <bazhang> odd
[14:24] <cher> Yesterday flash was still working fine. I upgraded to the new package half an hour ago, and now I have no sound for flash.
[14:25] <cprgmswr2> kubuntu 11.10 rocks
[14:26] <cher> cprgmswr2: Do you have an ATI graphics card?
[14:26] <cprgmswr2> Yep
[14:26] <cprgmswr2> ATI Radion HD 5670
[14:27] <cher> And no problems with kubuntu 11.10 regarding amd driver?
[14:27] <cprgmswr2> nope, but I have not installed the amd propriotery driver
[14:28] <cher> cprgmswr2: How fast is 3D for you with the free driver?
[14:28] <cprgmswr2> Its fast enough to show a rotation cube
[14:29] <cprgmswr2> I have not benchmarked it though
[14:29] <cher> Bah I think it's not the flash that's broken. I uninstalled pulseaudio because it sucks. But everything in the system still references pulse audio. I'll try a reboot, maybe it needs more than just one reboot to fix itself.
[14:30] <cprgmswr2> glxgears renders nicely
[14:30] <cprgmswr2> 57 FPS
[14:30] <cprgmswr2> oops
[14:30] <cprgmswr2> 296 frames per second
[14:30] <cprgmswr2> is that slow?
[14:39] <cher> Okay I found out why sound in flash was no longer working. I also uninstalled pulseaudio. Because KDE sound worked, I thought everything was still working.
[14:39] <cher> However, uninstalling pulseaudio seems to leave the system with a trashed sound config. Neither flash nor mplayer were able to play sound.
[14:40] <cher> So I installed pulseaudio again - which I don't like because imo it's crap.
[14:40] <cprgmswr2> you do realize cher that kde uses pulseaudio to play sound right
[14:40] <midilink> hello, what's the best way to use a midikeyboard on kde?
[14:40] <cher> cprgmswr2: Well, KDE was playing sound fine without pulseaudio.
[14:41] <cprgmswr2> Oh
[14:41] <cprgmswr2> mabye it reverted to using alsa nativelly
[14:41] <cher> Yep it did, and somehow KDE managed to but most apps did not.
[14:41] <bazhang> kde?
[14:41] <cprgmswr2> that sounds about right
[14:45] <tyhgu> hey
[14:50] <ronnoc> BlaXpirit: I'm impatient! :)
[14:54] <ronnoc> Just for the (public) record, every flash issue I ever had went away since installing Flash-Aid Firefox plug-in. I wouldn't install a system without it.
[15:01] <csucsu734> jó napot .))))
[16:29] <yoga> I do sudo apt-get upgrade, I get this error messages
[16:29] <yoga> cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda5
[16:29] <yoga> cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab
[16:29] <yoga> I am on 11.11
[16:29] <yoga> Any idea?
[16:32] <DaemonFC> it's a bug that seems to come up sometimes
[16:32] <DaemonFC> if your drives aren't encrypted you can just ignore it or remove cryptosetup to make it shut up
[16:37] <yoga> DaemonFC: Thanks.
[16:38] <yoga> after apt-get upgrade I got no sound!
[16:39] <yoga> How do I trouble shoot sound?
[16:39] <cher> Is there something like uloop for linux?
[16:39] <cher> yoga: Where exactly do you have no sound? Everywhere or just specific applications?
[16:40] <DaemonFC> yoga: you might just want to try restarting first
[16:40] <yoga> cher: both youtube in chrome, and Amaork get no sound.
[16:40] <cher> yoga: Do you have sound from KDE?
[16:40] <DaemonFC> Pulseaudio probably messed something up
[16:40] <yoga> DaemonFC: ok, I'll retstart.
[16:41] <yoga> cher: sound from KDE?
[16:41] <DaemonFC> or you can use pulseaudio --restart
[16:41] <DaemonFC> I think that's it anyway
[16:41] <cher> yoga: Yes, when you start KDE, stop KDE, dialogs popup etc., the KDE sounds - do they still work, or are they gone, too?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> yoga, open sytem settings>multimedia>phonon , run the test on your devices and choose the one that works
[16:43] <yoga> it says, KDE detected that one or more internal devices were removed.
[16:43] <yoga> Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?
[16:44] <cher> Hrmpf... why is the "Task Scheduler" in the system settings not just simply called "cron"...
[16:44] <cher> yoga: Sounds like pulseaudio is gone.
[16:44] <cher> yoga: Can you check if pulseaudio is still installed?
[16:48] <midilink> hello, can someone help me setup my midikeyboard on kubuntu?
[16:48] <yoga> cher: what command should I use to check package?
[16:49] <cher> dpkg-query -W pulseaudio
[16:52] <yoga> cher: its installed
[16:53] <cher> yoga: Have you already tried what BluesKaj said?
[16:55] <yoga> cher: I cannot, it seem the "Internal Audio Analog sterio" is not highlight.
[16:56] <yoga> cher: and in the Audio Hardware setup tab, there is no "sound card"
[16:57] <cher> Have you already tried rebooting?
[16:57] <yoga> cher: there is ony a "Dummy Output", and when test , no sound.
[16:57] <BluesKaj> yoga, alsamixer in the terminal
[16:57] <yoga> cher: not yet.
[16:58] <yoga> alsamixer says, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[16:58] <yoga>  
[16:59] <yoga> cher: BluesKaj: I'll reboot now.
[16:59] <cher> Yay, that's where we're heading towards with Linux. 15 years ago, the only need for a reboot was if the kernel was to be changed. Nowadays Linux feels like Windows. *sigh*
[17:00] <Daskreech> hi cher
[17:00] <cher> Hi :)
[17:00] <Daskreech> Got your problem sorted out with the desktopeffects?
[17:01] <cher> Woah I had to completely disable them. After I attached a second monitor and configured for Xinerama, KDE kept crashing and showing totally strange effects like confusing the screens that I  had to disable desktop effects completely.
[17:01] <cher> But now that desktop effects are disabled, most of the issues are gone.
[17:02] <Daskreech> OK
[17:02] <cher> The paradox thing about this is that I installed the proprietary AMD driver to have speedy desktop effects in the first place...
[17:02] <Daskreech> :-) File a bug against both if you can
[17:02] <Daskreech> or ask in #kwin they may know if it's specifically one of the effects causing the issue
[17:02]  * Daskreech places bets on blur
[17:02] <cher> I didn't have the time yet. I'm so busy fiiling bug reports to Oracle (Java) and Google (Android)...
[17:03] <jbwiv__> anyone know what the difference between the kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-full packages are?
[17:04] <Daskreech> jbwiv__: one has more dependencies
[17:04] <cher> Although I prepared my desk for hunting kubuntu bugs already http://www.riedquat.de/blog/2011-09-01-03 I didn't find the time to systematically track them down yet. I think I'd rather wait for 11.10 anyway - doesn't make sense to test 11.04 now.
[17:04] <Daskreech> cher: Dangerous ground there :)
[17:04] <jbwiv__> Daskreech: I'd like to install kubuntu alongside Unity. Which should I choose?
[17:04] <cher> Why dangerous? :)
[17:04] <Daskreech> jbwiv__: kubuntu-desktop should be sufficient
[17:05] <cher> yoga: Problem solved?
[17:05] <Daskreech> cher: Oracle (java) and Android aren't nice playfellows right now
[17:05] <cher> Well, yes. The Android API is full of quirks, and many parts of Java look like abandonware.
[17:06] <yoga> cher: problem solved, I get sound in Amarok again.
[17:06] <yoga> Thanks.
[17:06] <cher> yoga: Yw - I didn't really do anything anyway.
[17:11] <weboh> how do I switch languages in LibreOffice say as to type different language without changing the default language?
[17:13] <weboh> How do I type greek in Ubuntu?
[17:19] <elkng> I trying to kill Xorg its restarted, how to kill it entirely ?
[17:19] <weboh> install language support. I got it
[17:25] <elkng> I run kubuntu 10.10 on netbook, where is regular KDE desktop ?
[17:26] <elkng> where is main menu ?
[17:26] <elkng> button with "K" on it ?
[17:26] <TheLastProject> elkng: System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Workspace -> Workspace Type
[17:26] <Daskreech> weboh: You can change the language in KDE as well I think
[17:27] <TheLastProject> Desktop = Default, Netbook = Netbook
[17:27] <Daskreech> elkng: what are you trying to do?
[17:28] <elkng> Daskreech: trying to use it as usual KDE, but its not regular KDE desktop, and entire environment is unusual, cant use it
[17:34] <Daskreech> elkng: ah follow TheLastProject's suggestion
[17:46] <cher> I'm trying to do some MIDI stuff using Rosegarden, Hydrogen and amSynth. The timing sounds very poor. (A 7 MHz Amiga 500 had more precise timing...) What might be the cause of that?
[17:48] <cher> I tried modprobe snd-rtctimer but there seems to be no such kernel module.
[18:02] <Daskreech> cher: what sound server are you using>?
[18:02] <cher> pulseaudio?
[18:02] <Daskreech> Umm Right >_>
[18:02] <Daskreech> I guess Gstreamer behind that then?
[19:16] <cher> Daskreech: Yes, gstreamer.
[19:17] <cher> But I guess that it's not only the audio stream, but already the midi that's not in sync. I don't know for sure, though.
[19:36] <Daskreech> ok
[19:42] <fjgaros> hola
[19:42] <fjgaros> Alguien de mallorca?
[19:42] <Daskreech> Hola
[19:42] <Daskreech> !es
[19:43] <cher> Shouldn't someone from Mallorca be looking for #ubuntu-de instead? I mean, since Mallorca is one of Germanys 17 states...
[19:50] <Daskreech> fjgaros: German
[19:50] <Daskreech> ?
[19:50] <Daskreech> cher: Maybe :)
[19:50] <Daskreech> Ask the person asking
[19:50] <cher> I was only joking anyway :)
[19:51] <Daskreech> fjgaros: ¿Qué estás buscando?
[19:51] <Daskreech> damn
[19:54] <SirLinux> anyone using psybnc ?
[19:55] <Daskreech> SirLinux: Want to ask the second question?
[19:56] <SirLinux> Ok Daskreech
[19:57] <SirLinux> I'm using psybnc, i cant remember the password i added, now i'm into the psybnc.conf well ... there is the password but is crypted, any ideea what type of crypted is ?
[20:03] <Daskreech> Probably blow encryption but I think you can change it
[20:03] <SirLinux> yeah weird that cmd displayed a password but still not working
[20:51] <BarkingFish> !restricted
[21:48] <tdignan> Is there some good disk janitor program that has a list of places it could possibly clean, like ccleaner for windows?
[21:50] <tdignan> mv ./* junk worked well so far :)
[21:52] <BluesKaj> tdignan, to rid your setup of left overs , unnneeded pkgs etc do, sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:53] <tdignan> Nothing there :)
[21:54] <BluesKaj> or the the dangerous rm -rf command . if you know what you want to get rid of that won't be removed by apt or the package manager
[21:56] <Daskreech> !info filelight
[21:57] <no|shutdown> ~~~
[21:58] <no|shutdown> who knows how to edit packed 'images' for grub?
[21:58] <BluesKaj> linux images/kernels ?
[21:59] <no|shutdown> yep
[21:59] <no|shutdown> i want to go into those readonly packs and edit one of them
[21:59] <Snowhog> tdignan: Check out http://igurublog.wordpress.com/downloads/script-kscrubber/
[22:00] <BluesKaj> highligt the kernel and use the "e" key to edit
[22:00] <BluesKaj> no|shutdown,^
[22:00] <no|shutdown> Blues?
[22:00] <tdignan> BluesKaj: awesome
[22:00] <no|shutdown> i don't understan
[22:01] <no|shutdown> d
[22:01] <yofel> no|shutdown: what exactly are you trying to do?
[22:01] <yofel> the kernel images are built at kernel build time, initrd images are built by update-initramfs
[22:01] <no|shutdown> yofel: there is a file in initrd.img-2.6.39.4 that i want to replace
[22:01] <no|shutdown> yofel: that file is in /boot grub uses it as choice
[22:02] <no|shutdown> yofel: but i can't extract or recompress the package, i can mount it though.
[22:02] <Daskreech> tdignan: ^^^ In case you missed it
[22:02] <BarkingFish> Guys - I need some help here. Not sure what's gone wrong, but this just appeared on my screen while trying to install something:
[22:03] <BarkingFish> Software index is broken
[22:03] <BarkingFish> This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'.
[22:03] <no|shutdown> yofel: update-initramfs and then update?
[22:03] <Daskreech> BarkingFish: And what happened after you did that?
[22:03] <BarkingFish> It's still coming up.
[22:03] <yofel> no|shutdown: I'm not quite sure, I know that edits to initrd's are done by update-initramfs in ubuntu
[22:04] <yofel> you can probably read /usr/sbin/update-initramfs how it updates them
[22:04] <BarkingFish> i'm trying to install a .deb called Pencil - it's a free equivalent to flash
[22:04] <no|shutdown> yofel: that should be enough information then, thanks for point me in the right direction :
[22:04] <no|shutdown> :]
[22:05] <tdignan> Oh, sorry, mean't Snowhog
[22:05] <tdignan> meant*
[22:05] <yofel> BarkingFish: try running what it said... or does it still happen?
[22:06] <BarkingFish> i just tried from the konsole and got another error, it's odd because I've not altered the list of sources at all
[22:06] <BarkingFish> E: Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[22:06] <BarkingFish> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[22:06] <BarkingFish> I've not altered that file at all.
[22:06] <yofel> can you look up what line 59 is? (if there is on line 59 look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* )
[22:06] <yofel> s/on/no/
[22:07] <yofel> added a PPA?
[22:07] <BarkingFish> Line 59, according to KATE is: deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main
[22:08] <Daskreech> Is there a line above that?
[22:08] <Daskreech> or better below that?
[22:09] <BarkingFish> There are several below, all pointing to the dutch archive, which is odd... I don't use the nl archive :)
[22:09] <BarkingFish> I'll have them all out of the source list
[22:09] <Daskreech> comment them out
[22:10]  * BluesKaj wonders about some deb ppas and how they affect apt/sources
[22:11] <yofel> haven't seen add-apt-repository break anything there yet, only manual edits usually go wrong
[22:12] <BarkingFish> yofel, I've never accessed the NL pools for anything - I wouldn't, since I'm in the UK and Kent is only about 90 miles from here
[22:12] <yofel> leaves us wondering how they got in there...
[22:13] <BarkingFish> your guess is as good as mine right now
[22:15] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, what's pencil ?
[22:16] <BarkingFish> It's basically a free equivalent to flash, you can do animation and stuff in it
[22:17] <BluesKaj> !pencil
[22:18] <BarkingFish> I now have another problem. Having fixed the sources list, kpackagekit is now refusing to install anything, saying it failed to obtain authentication.  I bet polkit has gone down
[22:18] <BarkingFish> !info pencil natty
[22:18] <BluesKaj> Pencil lets you create traditional hand-drawn animations (cartoons) using both bitmap and vector graphics.
[22:19] <BluesKaj> quote fro synaptic ^
[22:20] <BluesKaj> hmm, doesn't mention it's a substitute for flash tho
[22:21] <BarkingFish> Right. I know what's wrong now. Polkit-1 has gone and done a segmentation fault.  I don't know how to restart it, or if I have to reboot.
[22:24] <gomiboy> afaik the only flash substitute is lightspark
[22:26] <BarkingFish> gomiboy, Well I'll go install it, assuming I can get anything to actually let me in to do it :)
[22:27] <BluesKaj> BBL ..dinner
[22:28] <gomiboy> BarkingFish: open a terminal and use apt-get, no polkit involved
[23:00] <kvv> test
[23:59] <tomas__> I am still not able to get sound from Flash 11. Anyone ever figured this one out before?