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s0rceress0ahh, you fixed yourself Che :)19:33
che__Yep :)19:34
che__Hey guys19:34
tomswartz07whats up folks?19:58
che__hey tomswartz07, just waiting for the meeting20:04
s0rceress0Hi tom :) nice to see you20:07
tomswartz07whens the meeting start? another hour?20:16
che__10pm UK time as far as I know20:21
tomswartz07ok cool thats what i thought20:25
s1m0nsk1Hi everybody! I see people are starting to gather20:52
tomswartz07hey s1m0nsk120:53
s0rceress0Hi :D20:53
che__hey slm0nsk120:53
s0rceress0The meeting gave me a chance to play with my virtual box20:53
s0rceress0that...didn't sound right.20:54
che__I was gonna say lol20:54
che__:)20:54
s1m0nsk1was wondering what that meant...20:54
tomswartz07what, are you running an irc client in a vb client?20:55
che__She's running Kubuntu in virtual box20:56
c7phello all20:59
s0rceress0Hi :)20:59
che__hey c7p20:59
s1m0nsk1Hi20:59
herathi20:59
c7phow are you ?21:01
che__Good21:01
tomswartz07getting along21:01
s1m0nsk1can't complain, mustn't grumble...21:01
tomswartz07who'd listen to the complaints anyway? :)21:02
c7p:P21:02
che__:)21:02
c7pwe will wait a bit (5-10 mins) so as everyone join us :)21:03
hannieokay21:03
senthil_primeHi all21:03
c7phi senthil !21:04
senthil_primeHi c7p21:04
s1m0nsk1Hi!21:04
c7phi Brian21:06
peredoHello21:07
s0rceress0Hi peredo :D21:07
che__hey peredo :)21:07
s1m0nsk1Hello peredo21:07
c7pi guess this "meeting" is an opportunity for you to meet each other :D21:07
peredoHi everyone!21:08
tomswartz07hey all21:08
herathi all21:08
senthil_primehello peredo!21:08
s1m0nsk1c7p: that was the intention, wasn't it?21:09
c7pyeah of course21:10
c7pthe first goal of this gathering21:10
c7pthe next was to answer any questions21:10
c7p#startmeeting21:12
MootBotMeeting started at 16:12. The chair is c7p.21:12
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]21:12
c7phey all21:12
c7praise your hands21:12
hannieready21:12
che__ready21:12
s1m0nsk1ready21:12
c7po/21:12
heratready21:12
s0rceress0ready21:12
peredoready21:13
c7pok we are ready21:13
tomswartz07ready21:13
hanniehttp://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/FlHgLlkX2721:13
MootBotLINK received:  http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/FlHgLlkX2721:13
c7prick won't be able to attend the meeting21:13
c7pthx for the agenda hannie21:14
hannieand what about Kevin?21:14
c7pKevin must be on his parents21:14
c7pso21:15
hannieok, how about letting authors introduce themselves?21:15
c7p#topic Introduce yourselves authors !21:15
pfjapPacoHello21:15
pfjapPacoWell, I'm Paco21:16
pfjapPacoI do hope everybody is still here haha21:16
* c7p waves :)21:16
che__I'm Che, from Ireland and I'm working on Thunderbird21:16
hanniepfjapPaco, which chapter/section are you working on and what's the progress?21:16
pfjapPacoI've been assigned to help edit the Ubuntu Desktop section I believe21:17
hanniepfjapPaco, any section in particular?21:17
tomswartz07My name is Tom Swartz, Im from Pennsylvania, USA. I have a BS in Physics, and have been using Ubuntu for the past 5 years. Ive been following the Manual Project since the start, and only recently stepped in to help author. Im working on the Instant Messaging section.21:17
c7pthis is how we'll introduce ourselves 1) we say things about ourselves 2) we say that we have finished 3) quesions from others21:17
c7pPaco wasn't assigned to any section specifically, right pfjapPaco ?21:18
pfjapPacoYes, sorry about the wait, I just went to check myself21:19
heratI am Herat and I am from India. I am working on Using Ubuntu Center.21:19
s1m0nsk1Hi, I'm Simon. I'm from England and I've been using Ubuntu for about 3 years. I'm doing the Ubuntu One section.21:20
senthil_primeI am senthil. I am from India but right now I am in the US. I have been using Ubuntu for a little over 1 year now. I am working on the microblogging section of the manual.21:21
c7pi'm John, i'm following the project since the begining, i step down to help for the greek translation of it and then i started contributing for the main manual. I'm author of the Ubuntu Desktop chapter, specifically on the sections that touches Dash, Launcher, etc21:21
c7phey Chris :D21:22
ChrisWoollardevening21:22
ChrisWoollardI forgot. Sorry21:22
c7pno worries we introduce ourselves21:23
s0rceress0I'm S0rcy, I've been using Ubuntu for about a year now and still learning about it. I'm an editor and am not yet assigned any particular work yet.21:23
peredoHello, I'm Brian. I live in California and I will be writing the Viewing and Editing Photos section. I've been using Ubuntu since Breezy. I plan on finishing the section today.21:23
hannieI'm Hannie. I am a member of Ubuntu Dutch Translators. And I work for the manual als an author (ubuntu-desktop) an editor (Prologue and learning more)21:23
hanniehi ChrisWoollard21:24
ChrisWoollardRight...... Ok..... ermm......21:24
hannieAre you all familiar with this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/21:24
ChrisWoollardI am Chris.21:24
pfjapPacoHello Chris.21:25
ChrisWoollardI have been invloved with this project since lucid e121:25
ChrisWoollardI know a bit of Latex. I tend to do editting. and fixing things that are broken in the bzr branch21:26
ChrisWoollardWhat else do i do?21:26
ChrisWoollardGenerally whatever in21:26
ChrisWoollardi thank21:26
ChrisWoollards/thank/think21:26
c7pok i think we are done, or not ? anyone else who wants to introduce his/her self ?21:27
hanniec7p, is there an aneiric sheet instead of this one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CNDambUJ&key=0AtkeORuPIMxsdGtWRXlvdHB4bktTNkF5LTNwWU5KQnc&hl=en_US&authkey=CNDambUJ#gid=021:28
hannie*oneiric21:28
hannieI think every author/editor should be able to access and it21:29
hannie*change21:29
c7pthis isn't for oneiric, but yes there is a simple sheet with assignments: http://bit.ly/ok0sKk21:29
hanniec7p, nice!21:31
c7peveytinh is in there :P21:31
c7pwell almost21:31
che__I don't see s0ceress0 listed as an editor?21:31
c7pyeah21:31
c7pmany editors are on another sheet "available editors"21:31
che__ah ok21:32
c7pthose editors aren't assigned to specific chapter or section21:32
hannieWhy aren't these sheets accessible for everybody?21:32
c7pwhen we assign them work, they 'll be added too :)21:32
c7pcause it contains e-mail addresses :D21:32
c7pi don't think this sheets should be accessible21:33
c7pto the generall public21:33
hannieIf you save those addresses somewhere else everybody can see what progress is made by others21:33
pfjapPacoWell, there is a way to protect sheets so that only specific people can see them21:34
c7pthis is a solution, but we have to spend many time on sheets21:34
c7pedit sheets for public, for private use etc21:35
c7peven this sheet was time consuming21:35
hannieat this moment I cannot add anything to the Oneiric sheet, but I could in the Natty sheet21:35
c7pbtw if you want to discuss this subject let's leave it for the end of the meeting21:35
hanniec7p, ok21:35
c7p[TOPIC] Basic outlines on how the project works21:36
MootBotNew Topic:  Basic outlines on how the project works21:36
c7pfirstly the project is always open to new members21:36
c7pany member can contribute as it cans/wants21:37
c7peven if you follow the project you are member of the project21:37
c7pnow21:37
c7pthe project uses bazzar to share its work21:38
ChrisWoollardWe will always do our best to help each other out.21:38
c7pwe have a branch for every series on bazzar21:38
c7palthough on this release we also give the option to authors to commit/share their work though UbuntuOne21:39
c7pthis on how we share our work21:40
c7pnow the process of releasing a manual is the following21:40
c7p1) get the contributors 2) writing process (we are on it) 3) proofreading of written material 3) release of the manual21:41
hannieYou can always ask questions using the mailing list: ubuntu-manual@lists.launchpad.net21:42
c7pthe manual built from LaTeX code, Kevin (godbyk) is our Texician who faces all tex issues, fixes bugs, and helps us to get the manual out21:43
ChrisWoollardI also know Latex a bit :)21:43
c7pnew authors that work on UbuntuOne and edit LibreOffice docs, of cousre aren't writing tex code21:43
c7pyeah and Chris helps a lot on fixing syntax issues etc21:44
c7p(@ new authors) Chris and Kevin are very core members of the project :)21:44
c7pso as i was saying new authors that work on UbuntuOne and edit LibreOffice docs, of cousre aren't writing tex code21:45
c7pwhen you finish your work, we (me, Chris, Rick, Hannie and others) will mark your text with tex code so we can build the manual21:46
c7pbtw Rick is our Editor in Chief21:46
ChrisWoollardIf you want to edit via Bazaar and Latex, we have a style guide http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/style-guide.pdf21:47
c7phannie, ChrisWoollard: have i missed anything ?21:47
ChrisWoollardI can't think of anything21:47
hannieI don't think so. Maybe there are questions on what you said?21:47
ChrisWoollardIf you have questiosn. Just ask or send them to the mailing list.21:47
c7pChrisWoollard: +121:48
pfjapPacoSo we'll be editing in libreoffice?21:48
pfjapPacoprimarily that is21:48
pfjapPacocorrect?21:48
c7phm21:49
ChrisWoollardAt some point that will be converted to Latex and commited to the bzr branch21:49
senthil_primeAnd can screenshots be placed on the libreoffice docs as well?21:49
pfjapPacook, thank you21:49
c7psenthil_prime: it could be could to be added on a seperate folder, but there are some issues with screenshot resolution when added with latex.21:50
ChrisWoollardIf you don't know Latex / Bzr then you don't need to do that.21:51
che__So should we leave out screenshots in Libreoffice or put them in?21:51
ChrisWoollardThat would be for somebody like the editor in Chief21:51
s1m0nsk1I think authors should be putting them in.21:52
c7pplace the screens in the docs21:52
hannieIt's a good question about the screenshots. I think we should let Kevin or rick explain about this on the list21:53
che__ok21:53
senthil_primegot it..thx21:53
c7plet's leave the screenshot issue for the next meeting, if you are ok with that21:53
che__sure21:53
c7pbut of course you will place sreenshots in docs !21:53
senthil_primeok21:54
c7pany question we haven't answered ?21:54
senthil_primeif we decide to do latex, do we upload the tex file or the pdf?21:54
che__Do we have a deadline?21:54
ChrisWoollardtex21:54
hanniesenthil_prime, tex files, not pdf21:55
ChrisWoollardthe pdf gets generated from the tex21:55
c7pactually you get the branch to your local machine, and edit the tex file of your section21:55
c7pthen you simply commit changes to the branch21:55
senthil_primeokay21:55
c7pif i remeber write you work on UbuntuOne ?21:56
ChrisWoollardbefore commited to bzr you should run make on the branch to make sure the main.pdf builds without error21:56
senthil_primeyeah, I am working on UbuntuOne. You have shared a tex file and a doc with me.21:56
c7pok work on that21:56
senthil_primecool21:57
c7pit's the tex file of the bazzar branch21:57
c7pon setting dealines we will talk a bit later21:57
c7p[TOPIC] Assignments and status of sections21:58
MootBotNew Topic:  Assignments and status of sections21:58
c7pAssignments: http://bit.ly/ok0sKk21:58
c7pwe saw them before21:58
c7pso what's the status of your section authors :) ?21:59
c7pperedo ?21:59
che__I'm nearly finished the Reading and Composing email section22:00
heratI have almost completed my part "Using Ubuntu Software Center".22:00
senthil_primeI should be finishing the microblogging section by tomorrow.22:00
peredoViewing and Editing Photos - will likely finish today22:01
s1m0nsk1I've not started mine yet.22:01
hannieI have finished my sections in ubuntu-desktop22:01
c7pwe fly team :D22:01
c7ps1m0nsk1: no worries22:01
s1m0nsk1Will have a crack at it this week.22:02
c7pif you need a second hand, don't hesitate to ask :)22:03
c7pso to recap on chapters status22:03
c7pInstallation chapter must be finished22:03
c7pThe ubuntu desktop is missing the appearance section22:04
c7pworking with ubuntu chapter has 1-2 sections that need some work, the others are completed or almost completed22:04
c7psoftware management is half finished22:04
c7pand on Hardware, troubleshooting and advanced topics i don't know22:05
c7pthe last two must be in good shape22:05
c7pdo you want to say anything on this topic ?22:06
hannieBryan is still working on Learning more22:07
hannieI don't see his name on the sheet22:07
c7pok cool, i didn't know that so i didn't added him to the sheet22:07
hannieAnd I will finish Prologue, since Piratemurray hasn't got time for it22:08
c7pok added to the sheer22:08
c7psheet*22:08
hanniethanks22:09
c7pnp22:09
c7pi guess we are finished22:09
c7pdo you want to discuss anything out of the agenda ?22:09
hannieyes, I got to go. Thanks everyone for coming. See you next time.22:09
senthil_primenp22:10
ChrisWoollardthanks22:10
c7pcya hannie, thx for coming22:10
che__see you hannie22:10
pfjapPacoOk, thanks everybody, talk to you all next time22:10
c7pcu Paco22:10
c7pthx for coming22:10
s1m0nsk1Can I ask about deadlines and timescales?22:10
senthil_primealright guys, i am taking off too.22:11
c7pyeah22:11
pfjapPacoNo problem, I'm glad to have a chance to help out22:11
pfjapPacobye22:11
heratI also got to go. Bye.22:11
c7pcu senthil_prime22:11
c7pcheers herat22:11
senthil_primegoodbye c7p22:11
ChrisWoollardevening godbyk22:11
heratbye c7p. :)22:11
c7pthat's Kevin22:11
ChrisWoollardwe have just finished22:11
c7p^_^22:11
godbykHello, everyone. I just got home.22:12
godbykHow was/is the meeting?22:12
peredoIt was nice to meet everyone. I'll see you all at the next meeting!22:12
c7pcu peredo22:12
c7p#endmeeting22:12
MootBotMeeting finished at 17:12.22:12
c7pon deadlines s1m0nsk122:12
c7pwe don't have any right now22:13
che__Thanks everyone, see you all next time :)22:13
c7pcu che22:13
che__cu c7p22:13
s1m0nsk1OK, thanks. I'll try and get my bit done a.s.a.p so as not to delay things.22:13
s0rceress0:) Thanks much, have a good one22:14
c7ps1m0nsk1: you don't have to push yourself too much, just enjoy contributing22:14
c7ps1m0nsk1: how long do you think it will take ?22:15
s1m0nsk1Should have something ready by end of week.22:15
s1m0nsk1Is that OK?22:16
c7pok cool, you won't hold back the release of the manual back for sure22:16
c7pyeah everyting is ok22:16
s1m0nsk1Oh good, glad about that!22:17
c7pi g2g guys too22:17
c7psee you all22:17
c7pgodbyk: i wish we could talk :P22:17
s1m0nsk1I'm off too - bye!22:17
c7pgood night all22:17
ChrisWoollardgn22:17

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