=== che is now known as Guest37926 === che_ is now known as Guest29616 [19:33] ahh, you fixed yourself Che :) [19:34] Yep :) [19:34] Hey guys [19:58] whats up folks? [20:04] hey tomswartz07, just waiting for the meeting [20:07] Hi tom :) nice to see you [20:16] whens the meeting start? another hour? [20:21] 10pm UK time as far as I know [20:25] ok cool thats what i thought [20:52] Hi everybody! I see people are starting to gather [20:53] hey s1m0nsk1 [20:53] Hi :D [20:53] hey slm0nsk1 [20:53] The meeting gave me a chance to play with my virtual box [20:54] that...didn't sound right. [20:54] I was gonna say lol [20:54] :) [20:54] was wondering what that meant... [20:55] what, are you running an irc client in a vb client? [20:56] She's running Kubuntu in virtual box [20:59] hello all [20:59] Hi :) [20:59] hey c7p [20:59] Hi [20:59] hi [21:01] how are you ? [21:01] Good [21:01] getting along [21:01] can't complain, mustn't grumble... [21:02] who'd listen to the complaints anyway? :) [21:02] :P [21:02] :) [21:03] we will wait a bit (5-10 mins) so as everyone join us :) [21:03] okay [21:03] Hi all [21:04] hi senthil ! [21:04] Hi c7p [21:04] Hi! [21:06] hi Brian [21:07] Hello [21:07] Hi peredo :D [21:07] hey peredo :) [21:07] Hello peredo [21:07] i guess this "meeting" is an opportunity for you to meet each other :D [21:08] Hi everyone! [21:08] hey all [21:08] hi all [21:08] hello peredo! [21:09] c7p: that was the intention, wasn't it? [21:10] yeah of course [21:10] the first goal of this gathering [21:10] the next was to answer any questions [21:12] #startmeeting [21:12] Meeting started at 16:12. The chair is c7p. [21:12] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [21:12] hey all [21:12] raise your hands [21:12] ready [21:12] ready [21:12] ready [21:12] o/ [21:12] ready [21:12] ready [21:13] ready [21:13] ok we are ready [21:13] ready [21:13] http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/FlHgLlkX27 [21:13] LINK received: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/FlHgLlkX27 [21:13] rick won't be able to attend the meeting [21:14] thx for the agenda hannie [21:14] and what about Kevin? [21:14] Kevin must be on his parents [21:15] so [21:15] ok, how about letting authors introduce themselves? [21:15] #topic Introduce yourselves authors ! [21:15] Hello [21:16] Well, I'm Paco [21:16] I do hope everybody is still here haha [21:16] * c7p waves :) [21:16] I'm Che, from Ireland and I'm working on Thunderbird [21:16] pfjapPaco, which chapter/section are you working on and what's the progress? [21:17] I've been assigned to help edit the Ubuntu Desktop section I believe [21:17] pfjapPaco, any section in particular? [21:17] My name is Tom Swartz, Im from Pennsylvania, USA. I have a BS in Physics, and have been using Ubuntu for the past 5 years. Ive been following the Manual Project since the start, and only recently stepped in to help author. Im working on the Instant Messaging section. [21:17] this is how we'll introduce ourselves 1) we say things about ourselves 2) we say that we have finished 3) quesions from others [21:18] Paco wasn't assigned to any section specifically, right pfjapPaco ? [21:19] Yes, sorry about the wait, I just went to check myself [21:19] I am Herat and I am from India. I am working on Using Ubuntu Center. [21:20] Hi, I'm Simon. I'm from England and I've been using Ubuntu for about 3 years. I'm doing the Ubuntu One section. [21:21] I am senthil. I am from India but right now I am in the US. I have been using Ubuntu for a little over 1 year now. I am working on the microblogging section of the manual. [21:21] i'm John, i'm following the project since the begining, i step down to help for the greek translation of it and then i started contributing for the main manual. I'm author of the Ubuntu Desktop chapter, specifically on the sections that touches Dash, Launcher, etc [21:22] hey Chris :D [21:22] evening [21:22] I forgot. Sorry [21:23] no worries we introduce ourselves [21:23] I'm S0rcy, I've been using Ubuntu for about a year now and still learning about it. I'm an editor and am not yet assigned any particular work yet. [21:23] Hello, I'm Brian. I live in California and I will be writing the Viewing and Editing Photos section. I've been using Ubuntu since Breezy. I plan on finishing the section today. [21:23] I'm Hannie. I am a member of Ubuntu Dutch Translators. And I work for the manual als an author (ubuntu-desktop) an editor (Prologue and learning more) [21:24] hi ChrisWoollard [21:24] Right...... Ok..... ermm...... [21:24] Are you all familiar with this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ [21:24] I am Chris. [21:25] Hello Chris. [21:25] I have been invloved with this project since lucid e1 [21:26] I know a bit of Latex. I tend to do editting. and fixing things that are broken in the bzr branch [21:26] What else do i do? [21:26] Generally whatever in [21:26] i thank [21:26] s/thank/think [21:27] ok i think we are done, or not ? anyone else who wants to introduce his/her self ? [21:28] c7p, is there an aneiric sheet instead of this one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CNDambUJ&key=0AtkeORuPIMxsdGtWRXlvdHB4bktTNkF5LTNwWU5KQnc&hl=en_US&authkey=CNDambUJ#gid=0 [21:28] *oneiric [21:29] I think every author/editor should be able to access and it [21:29] *change [21:29] this isn't for oneiric, but yes there is a simple sheet with assignments: http://bit.ly/ok0sKk [21:31] c7p, nice! [21:31] eveytinh is in there :P [21:31] well almost [21:31] I don't see s0ceress0 listed as an editor? [21:31] yeah [21:31] many editors are on another sheet "available editors" [21:32] ah ok [21:32] those editors aren't assigned to specific chapter or section [21:32] Why aren't these sheets accessible for everybody? [21:32] when we assign them work, they 'll be added too :) [21:32] cause it contains e-mail addresses :D [21:33] i don't think this sheets should be accessible [21:33] to the generall public [21:33] If you save those addresses somewhere else everybody can see what progress is made by others [21:34] Well, there is a way to protect sheets so that only specific people can see them [21:34] this is a solution, but we have to spend many time on sheets [21:35] edit sheets for public, for private use etc [21:35] even this sheet was time consuming [21:35] at this moment I cannot add anything to the Oneiric sheet, but I could in the Natty sheet [21:35] btw if you want to discuss this subject let's leave it for the end of the meeting [21:35] c7p, ok [21:36] [TOPIC] Basic outlines on how the project works [21:36] New Topic: Basic outlines on how the project works [21:36] firstly the project is always open to new members [21:37] any member can contribute as it cans/wants [21:37] even if you follow the project you are member of the project [21:37] now [21:38] the project uses bazzar to share its work [21:38] We will always do our best to help each other out. [21:38] we have a branch for every series on bazzar [21:39] although on this release we also give the option to authors to commit/share their work though UbuntuOne [21:40] this on how we share our work [21:40] now the process of releasing a manual is the following [21:41] 1) get the contributors 2) writing process (we are on it) 3) proofreading of written material 3) release of the manual [21:42] You can always ask questions using the mailing list: ubuntu-manual@lists.launchpad.net [21:43] the manual built from LaTeX code, Kevin (godbyk) is our Texician who faces all tex issues, fixes bugs, and helps us to get the manual out [21:43] I also know Latex a bit :) [21:43] new authors that work on UbuntuOne and edit LibreOffice docs, of cousre aren't writing tex code [21:44] yeah and Chris helps a lot on fixing syntax issues etc [21:44] (@ new authors) Chris and Kevin are very core members of the project :) [21:45] so as i was saying new authors that work on UbuntuOne and edit LibreOffice docs, of cousre aren't writing tex code [21:46] when you finish your work, we (me, Chris, Rick, Hannie and others) will mark your text with tex code so we can build the manual [21:46] btw Rick is our Editor in Chief [21:47] If you want to edit via Bazaar and Latex, we have a style guide http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/style-guide.pdf [21:47] hannie, ChrisWoollard: have i missed anything ? [21:47] I can't think of anything [21:47] I don't think so. Maybe there are questions on what you said? [21:47] If you have questiosn. Just ask or send them to the mailing list. [21:48] ChrisWoollard: +1 [21:48] So we'll be editing in libreoffice? [21:48] primarily that is [21:48] correct? [21:49] hm [21:49] At some point that will be converted to Latex and commited to the bzr branch [21:49] And can screenshots be placed on the libreoffice docs as well? [21:49] ok, thank you [21:50] senthil_prime: it could be could to be added on a seperate folder, but there are some issues with screenshot resolution when added with latex. [21:51] If you don't know Latex / Bzr then you don't need to do that. [21:51] So should we leave out screenshots in Libreoffice or put them in? [21:51] That would be for somebody like the editor in Chief [21:52] I think authors should be putting them in. [21:52] place the screens in the docs [21:53] It's a good question about the screenshots. I think we should let Kevin or rick explain about this on the list [21:53] ok [21:53] got it..thx [21:53] let's leave the screenshot issue for the next meeting, if you are ok with that [21:53] sure [21:53] but of course you will place sreenshots in docs ! [21:54] ok [21:54] any question we haven't answered ? [21:54] if we decide to do latex, do we upload the tex file or the pdf? [21:54] Do we have a deadline? [21:54] tex [21:55] senthil_prime, tex files, not pdf [21:55] the pdf gets generated from the tex [21:55] actually you get the branch to your local machine, and edit the tex file of your section [21:55] then you simply commit changes to the branch [21:55] okay [21:56] if i remeber write you work on UbuntuOne ? [21:56] before commited to bzr you should run make on the branch to make sure the main.pdf builds without error [21:56] yeah, I am working on UbuntuOne. You have shared a tex file and a doc with me. [21:56] ok work on that [21:57] cool [21:57] it's the tex file of the bazzar branch [21:57] on setting dealines we will talk a bit later [21:58] [TOPIC] Assignments and status of sections [21:58] New Topic: Assignments and status of sections [21:58] Assignments: http://bit.ly/ok0sKk [21:58] we saw them before [21:59] so what's the status of your section authors :) ? [21:59] peredo ? [22:00] I'm nearly finished the Reading and Composing email section [22:00] I have almost completed my part "Using Ubuntu Software Center". [22:00] I should be finishing the microblogging section by tomorrow. [22:01] Viewing and Editing Photos - will likely finish today [22:01] I've not started mine yet. [22:01] I have finished my sections in ubuntu-desktop [22:01] we fly team :D [22:01] s1m0nsk1: no worries [22:02] Will have a crack at it this week. [22:03] if you need a second hand, don't hesitate to ask :) [22:03] so to recap on chapters status [22:03] Installation chapter must be finished [22:04] The ubuntu desktop is missing the appearance section [22:04] working with ubuntu chapter has 1-2 sections that need some work, the others are completed or almost completed [22:04] software management is half finished [22:05] and on Hardware, troubleshooting and advanced topics i don't know [22:05] the last two must be in good shape [22:06] do you want to say anything on this topic ? [22:07] Bryan is still working on Learning more [22:07] I don't see his name on the sheet [22:07] ok cool, i didn't know that so i didn't added him to the sheet [22:08] And I will finish Prologue, since Piratemurray hasn't got time for it [22:08] ok added to the sheer [22:08] sheet* [22:09] thanks [22:09] np [22:09] i guess we are finished [22:09] do you want to discuss anything out of the agenda ? [22:09] yes, I got to go. Thanks everyone for coming. See you next time. [22:10] np [22:10] thanks [22:10] cya hannie, thx for coming [22:10] see you hannie [22:10] Ok, thanks everybody, talk to you all next time [22:10] cu Paco [22:10] thx for coming [22:10] Can I ask about deadlines and timescales? [22:11] alright guys, i am taking off too. [22:11] yeah [22:11] No problem, I'm glad to have a chance to help out [22:11] bye [22:11] I also got to go. Bye. [22:11] cu senthil_prime [22:11] cheers herat [22:11] goodbye c7p [22:11] evening godbyk [22:11] bye c7p. :) [22:11] that's Kevin [22:11] we have just finished [22:11] ^_^ [22:12] Hello, everyone. I just got home. [22:12] How was/is the meeting? [22:12] It was nice to meet everyone. I'll see you all at the next meeting! [22:12] cu peredo [22:12] #endmeeting [22:12] Meeting finished at 17:12. [22:12] on deadlines s1m0nsk1 [22:13] we don't have any right now [22:13] Thanks everyone, see you all next time :) [22:13] cu che [22:13] cu c7p [22:13] OK, thanks. I'll try and get my bit done a.s.a.p so as not to delay things. [22:14] :) Thanks much, have a good one [22:14] s1m0nsk1: you don't have to push yourself too much, just enjoy contributing [22:15] s1m0nsk1: how long do you think it will take ? [22:15] Should have something ready by end of week. [22:16] Is that OK? [22:16] ok cool, you won't hold back the release of the manual back for sure [22:16] yeah everyting is ok [22:17] Oh good, glad about that! [22:17] i g2g guys too [22:17] see you all [22:17] godbyk: i wish we could talk :P [22:17] I'm off too - bye! [22:17] good night all [22:17] gn