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totimkopfek sit en ek eet vis en tjips :D03:22
SquirmMaaz: tell Kilos to please send me a link, I'm not subscribed to the list07:47
MaazSquirm: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode07:47
nuvolario/08:51
Kiloshi superfly and others14:44
superflyhi Kilos14:51
* Symmetria deletes his accounts on 80% of tenet servers16:01
Symmetria:P yay, no access, no responsibility16:01
Symmetriarotfl16:01
tumbleweedSymmetria: please fix debian.mirror.ac.za first :)16:02
Symmetriatumbleweed heh, I'm retaining access to that :P16:02
SymmetriaI'll still be helping with mirror from outside tenet16:02
Symmetriawhats wrong with debian.mirror anyway16:02
tumbleweedstalled for a week, again16:02
Symmetriawtf, will look in a second, need to just be careful because bandwidth is in short supply at the moment16:03
tumbleweedyou and ambo should probably subscribe to debian-mirrors@l.d.o as well: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/2011/10/msg00000.html16:03
Symmetriaseacom is dead16:03
tumbleweedoh, that sucks16:03
Symmetriaand will be dead for the next 10 to 14 days16:03
* tumbleweed wonders how he didn't notice16:03
Symmetriahttp://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/371306-SEACOM-Outage16:04
Symmetriaheh bargain on at least 10 days, though possibly as long as 15 16:04
tumbleweed:/16:06
Kiloshey Squirm 17:50
Kilosyou been kinda scarce17:52
KilosMaaz, spell scarce17:52
MaazKilos: That seems correct. Carry on17:52
Kilosyay17:52
Kiloshi nlsthzn 17:53
nlsthznAlo uncle Kilos :)17:53
Kilossad day for sa rugger fans hey17:53
nlsthzn:'(17:53
superflyhi Kilos, nlsthzn17:54
nlsthznHey superfly :)17:54
Kiloshey superfly hows things?17:54
superflyKilos: they'll be good when the food gets here17:55
Kiloslol you at a restaurant17:55
superflyno, at home!17:56
Kilosoh my17:56
superflyhere it is...17:57
Kilosgo help the yank17:57
Kiloslol sorry mrs_fly 17:57
nlsthzn:) om nom nom17:57
superflychicken braai17:58
Kilosdont talk with your mouth half full17:58
Kilosfill it and shut up17:58
Kilosenjoy17:58
* nlsthzn us chuffed, will get to go to Dubai this Thursday for the Oneiric release party :D18:11
nlsthzn*is18:11
Kilosthats nice18:12
inetproguten abend18:13
nlsthznalo inetpro 18:17
Kilosyo inetpro gaan dit goed boet18:17
inetproheh, ok and you guys?18:18
Kiloswell ty18:18
* inetpro is happy that the sharks are coming home18:19
Kilosnot the sharks man18:19
Kilosdie dom bokke18:19
inetprolol18:19
inetproKilos: now them sharks have a chance to win the local cup18:20
Kilosyeah18:20
* nlsthzn stays quiet, Bulls and Bokke in one week-end :( Oh well18:21
Kiloslol18:21
inetpronlsthzn: you can't win them all18:22
nlsthznTo true :)18:22
Kilosyeah but its hard to wait for years or even 8 for another win18:22
Kilosthey were dom18:23
Kilosshoulda lost the game against18:23
Kilosum18:23
Kiloseish18:23
Kilosi forgot18:23
nlsthznWales18:24
Kiloswales maybe18:24
nlsthznI can see them winning this cup18:24
Kilosya then wlaes woulda played the ausies now18:24
Kilosyeah they are super fit and very committed18:25
nlsthznYup... but if you want to be world champs you need to be able to beat anyone IMO...18:25
Kilosthe prob was mainly the ref18:25
Kilosgave a few bad decisions against us18:26
Kilosand its hard to play the ref as well18:26
inetprowatch the french rooster 18:27
Kilosanyone of them can win except the ausies18:27
Kilosthey bad guys18:27
Kilosdirty players18:27
Kilostheir motto is win by any means18:28
Kilosthat pocock shoulda been carded he made so many illegal moves in rucks18:28
Kilosbut they name him man of the match18:28
Kilosi got a 2 trojans today18:30
Kiloskilled pidgin18:30
Kilosclamtk found them18:30
inetproKilos: what did it found?18:31
Kilostrojan virusses18:31
Kilosi shoulda written it down18:32
inetproKilos: hmm...18:32
Kiloswas deep in /home/miles/ more/more/18:32
Kilosthe minute a message came in on pidgin pc hung18:33
inetproyou shoud have posted it here18:33
Kilos3 reboots then i removed pidgin and got clam18:33
Kilosyeah i shoulda18:33
Kilosone was is pine something18:34
Kilosdont even know what that is18:34
inetproKilos: there should be a log, or perhaps it's still in your history18:34
Kilosi was doff i didnt tell clam to save18:34
inetproI'm sure it's a false positive18:35
Kilosdunno where else to look for them18:35
Kiloswhatever it was it really messed up pidgin18:36
inetproKilos: how do you know that?18:36
Kiloswhat?18:36
inetproKilos: "it really messed up pidgin"18:36
Kilosif i booted and didnt open pidgin then all was fine and if i opened pidgin and there was no incoming all was fine18:37
Kilosfirst incoming on msn killed pidgin18:38
inetproKilos: that still doesn't mean much18:38
Kiloseish boet. i dunno what else to say18:38
inetproKilos: don't wipe your evidence next time18:39
Kilosit mighta been in somewhere else even deeper, im sorry i didnt save the results18:39
Kilosno i wont18:39
Kilosit wont be in cat or tail will it18:40
Kilosor only clam18:40
inetprohmm.... the cat has no tail18:40
Kilosone was somewhere in wine as well18:40
Kiloslol18:40
inetproKilos: well you seem to be playing with fire :-)18:41
Kilosbut i monly had wine to try a game months ago and it was too slow so forgot about it18:41
Kilosi dont go online with wine18:42
Kilosand i have ufw as well18:42
inetproKilos: msn has always been bad news18:42
inetprothen again I have not used it for a long time, perhaps they changed?18:43
Kilosi have no choice inetpro thats where my girls are18:43
Kilosand xmpp been sick for weeks now18:43
inetproKilos: that is just wrong18:44
Kiloswhat inetpro 18:44
Kilosmember i told you about xmpp cutting off every 2 mins or so18:44
Kilosi removed otr as well18:45
Kiloslittle bit better18:45
Kilos5 mins now18:45
inetproKilos: not xmpp that has been sick, more likely your gmail account that has a few buggy connections to your buddies18:45
Kiloswhy would that be after over a year using it18:46
inetproKilos: rename your .purple folder and start a fresh profile18:46
Kiloseven when they offline xmpp disconnects every now and again18:46
Kiloswill completely removing pidgin not do that18:47
inetproKilos: no18:48
inetprounless you talk to it nicely18:48
Kiloslol i used synaptic and said completely remove all the pidgin packages18:49
inetprothen aagain you can't really talk to it, so just forget it and do it yourself18:49
inetproKilos: when you uninstall thunderbird after having used it for many years, do you want it to remove all your emails?18:50
Kiloslol i use evolution18:50
Kilosi was desparate18:50
inetproKilos: s/thunderbird/evolution/18:50
Kilosno pidgin no contact to that side18:51
Kilosi know what you are getting at18:51
Kilosi go look for .purple18:51
inetproKilos: mv ~/.purple ~/.purple.2011100918:52
Kilosty18:52
inetproKilos: just make sure you have closed pidgin before doing that18:52
Kilosok18:52
Kiloswhat does that do18:53
inetproKilos: tell me18:53
Kilosoh renames it18:53
Kilosto 2011100918:54
inetprono18:54
Kilosok wait i go look for man mv18:54
inetproit will just add ".20111009" to the name18:54
inetprocould be anything else really18:55
Kilosyes but then its .purple.20111009 not .purple18:55
Kilosright18:55
inetprolike mv ~/.purple ~/.purple.ThisIsMyBackupCopyOfABrokenPidginProfile18:55
Kilosso its basically same as a rename or not18:56
inetproKilos: yep mv is like rename18:56
inetproshort for move 18:56
Kiloswhy would i want a backup of it anyway18:56
superflyKilos: a move and a rename are the same thing, if you think about it18:56
Kiloswhy not delete the whole thing18:57
inetproKilos: you might want to look at some details in your profile after the fact18:57
superflyKilos: because a broken backup is better than no backup at all18:57
inetproKilos: that ^^18:57
Kiloslol18:57
zerefhmmmmm18:58
zerefhi guys18:58
Kilosi even installed an older version of pidgin18:58
inetprozeref: good evenin18:58
Kiloshi zeref 18:58
superflyevening zeref18:58
inetprooh and hello superfly18:59
Kilospidgin and xchat and evolution are my life blood18:59
superflyhiya inetpro :-)18:59
zerefSet the file start_tron.sh in the autostart of your system  << thats the same as start up application right??18:59
zeref*applications18:59
superflyzeref: it depends19:00
inetprozeref: autostart gives me a shiver down me spine, makes me remember the bad old days of using windows19:01
nlsthznautoexec.bat19:01
zeref:fear:19:01
superflyinetpro: not necessarily... do you start X manually, or does it autostart? ;-)19:01
inetprosuperfly: true 19:01
inetprosuperfly: I'm just not convinced that start_tron.sh is like X19:02
superflyinetpro: oh, absolutely... I'm just saying that autostart is not all bad19:03
zerefnope, homie of mine want me to test a conky themr19:03
zeref*theme19:03
inetproKilos: you gave up now?19:12
Kilosno just added accounts again19:13
inetproKilos: ahh, I was just wondering19:13
Kilosoh my19:14
Kilosit sick again19:14
inetproKilos: how many chat buddies do you have in gmail?19:15
Kilos219:15
Kilosand you wil other account19:16
inetproonly two? Are you sure?19:16
inetproKilos: set pidgin to show offline buddies as well19:16
Kilosyip it is19:16
Kilosyeah 219:17
inetproKilos: hmm...19:17
Kilosi got 2 gmail acounts19:17
Kilosone has 2 0nly19:17
Kilosother one has 3 or 419:17
inetprohmm...19:18
Kilosonly use one so its less data running19:18
Kilosgot everything pruned to minimum19:18
inetproKilos: did you start with just default plugins?19:19
Kilosyip i got nothing extra added now19:19
inetpronow?19:20
Kilossince mv ing that .purple19:20
inetprook19:20
Kilosi will watch the xmpp connection and let you know19:22
Kilosluckily i got all cache rsynced to external19:25
inetproKilos: aptitude search '~S ~i pidgin'19:25
inetproKilos: that will list other pidgin packages that you installed19:25
Kiloswith those '19:25
inetproyep19:26
Kilosok sec19:26
Kilosok what about them19:27
inetproKilos: how many to start with?19:27
Kilos2 i think19:27
Kilosnow 519:27
Kilosblinklight and guifications19:27
inetproKilos: hmm... just copy paste the packages in one line 19:28
Kilosand themes and plugin pack19:28
Kilosto here?19:28
inetprohang on, you already donw it I guess19:28
inetprodone*19:28
Kilosdone what?19:29
inetprotry removing blinklight and guifications or at least make sure they are disabled in the plugins19:29
Kilosi dunno if xmpp sick anymore19:30
Kilosmustnt i first see that19:30
Kilosi havent enabled any plugins since installing pidgin again today19:31
inetproKilos: well it's always a process of elimination, check and see on a step by step basis19:31
Kilosat the moment there are only the default plugins19:32
inetproKilos: try it and see if it breaks19:32
Kiloseveryone sleeping now19:32
inetprook19:32
Kiloscan only see tomorrow if they get time19:32
Kiloslol19:32
Kiloshard living 9 hours behind19:33
Kilosty inetpro i will watch19:33
inetproKilos: np19:33
inetproKilos: BTW that aptitude search term is handy to make a note of19:35
Kilosyes ty i save them all, all over the place and them battle to find them again19:35
Kiloshehe19:36
inetproaptitude search '~S filter pattern' - elect packages for which a single version matches both filter and pattern19:36
inetprooops19:36
inetproaptitude search '~S filter pattern' - select packages for which a single version matches both filter and pattern19:36
Kilosfilter and patterns?19:36
inetprothe ~i filter is for selecting only installed packages19:36
inetproaptitude Search Term Reference http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html19:37
Kilosah i can wget that19:39
Kilosty19:39
* Kilos loves wget19:40
zerefmeh19:42
inetprozeref: you have connectivity problems?19:43
zerefnah, just trying out some conky themes19:44
zerefthe screenshots look good, but they never look good on my pc19:44
zereflol19:44
Kiloswhy19:49
zerefgoog ques19:51
zeref*good question19:51
nuvolariawee19:51
nuvolarinaand oom Kilos 19:52
nuvolarilo za, inetpro 19:52
nuvolarier, zeref 19:52
nuvolarii meant :P19:52
Kilosnaand nuvolari lekker slaap19:52
nuvolarioi, is oom op pad bed toe?19:52
Kiloso naand hello19:52
zerefhi nuvolari 19:52
Kilosamper19:52
nuvolario19:52
nuvolariai, ek hoop oom het 'n lekker dag gehad19:52
Kilosek het gedink jy gaan slaap19:52
inetprowb nuvolari19:53
nuvolariamper, net kom groet19:53
Kilosja nie sleg nie dankie nuvolari 19:53
Kilosen jy19:53
nuvolariek kan nie kla nie dankie oom19:53
Kilosmooi19:53
Kilosnet my duifie was siek vandag19:54
* nuvolari gee sulke woeste gapings :P19:54
nuvolari:-/ 19:54
Kiloslol19:54
nuvolariwaai duifie oom?19:54
Kilospidgin19:54
Kiloshehe19:54
Kilosmaar5 lyk nou weer gesond19:54
nuvolarioo, ek dog oom se duifie in australie19:54
nuvolariok, nee dis goed19:54
Kilosnee men19:54
nuvolarioom, wie ondersteun Tara as dit by rugby kom?19:55
nuvolariek't nie lekker haar tweet vandag verstaan nie19:55
Kilossa19:55
Kiloshulle altwee19:55
nuvolariah!19:55
nuvolaricool :P ek't gedog sy's 'n aussie19:55
Kilosen natal19:55
Kilosnee tara haat hulle19:55
nuvolari:O doubleh-cool19:55
nuvolari*double19:56
Kilosse hulle is almal skelms19:56
nuvolariMaaz: last tweet by taralsofficial19:56
Maaznuvolari: "@Marajax I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was fair. :P" 10 hours, 27 minutes and 15 seconds ago, http://twitter.com/TaraLSOfficial/statuses/12296685796681318419:56
Kilosshe calls them criminal get19:56
nuvolario wag, dis nie daai een nie19:56
Kilosja sy hou nie van refs wat nie reguit loop nie19:57
nuvolarisy sing nie net mooi nie :D19:57
* nuvolari het weer so paar keer na haar video gekyk19:58
Kiloslol19:58
nuvolarikry hoenervleis elke keer19:58
Kilosek ook19:59
Kilosons gsesls elke dag op pidgin19:59
Kilosgesels19:59
Kilossy meer parmantig as haar pa20:00
Kilosek was nie by om boude rooi te maak nie20:00
Kilosok guys sleep tight. see ya all tomorrow20:02
nuvolariroflmao20:05
nuvolariMaaz: tell Kilos ag it's okay oom, otherwise she might have screamed her voice out and not sing as beautiful as she does now :P20:06
Maaznuvolari: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode20:06
nuvolariok, bedtime20:07
* nuvolari maak soos mis en val in die pad20:07
superflyNag mensies, ek gaan bed toe.20:13

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