[03:22] ek sit en ek eet vis en tjips :D [07:47] Maaz: tell Kilos to please send me a link, I'm not subscribed to the list [07:47] Squirm: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [08:51] o/ [14:44] hi superfly and others [14:51] hi Kilos [16:01] * Symmetria deletes his accounts on 80% of tenet servers [16:01] :P yay, no access, no responsibility [16:01] rotfl [16:02] Symmetria: please fix debian.mirror.ac.za first :) [16:02] tumbleweed heh, I'm retaining access to that :P [16:02] I'll still be helping with mirror from outside tenet [16:02] whats wrong with debian.mirror anyway [16:02] stalled for a week, again [16:03] wtf, will look in a second, need to just be careful because bandwidth is in short supply at the moment [16:03] you and ambo should probably subscribe to debian-mirrors@l.d.o as well: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/2011/10/msg00000.html [16:03] seacom is dead [16:03] oh, that sucks [16:03] and will be dead for the next 10 to 14 days [16:03] * tumbleweed wonders how he didn't notice [16:04] http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/371306-SEACOM-Outage [16:04] heh bargain on at least 10 days, though possibly as long as 15 [16:06] :/ [17:50] hey Squirm [17:52] you been kinda scarce [17:52] Maaz, spell scarce [17:52] Kilos: That seems correct. Carry on [17:52] yay [17:53] hi nlsthzn [17:53] Alo uncle Kilos :) [17:53] sad day for sa rugger fans hey [17:53] :'( [17:54] hi Kilos, nlsthzn [17:54] Hey superfly :) [17:54] hey superfly hows things? [17:55] Kilos: they'll be good when the food gets here [17:55] lol you at a restaurant [17:56] no, at home! [17:56] oh my [17:57] here it is... [17:57] go help the yank [17:57] lol sorry mrs_fly [17:57] :) om nom nom [17:58] chicken braai [17:58] dont talk with your mouth half full [17:58] fill it and shut up [17:58] enjoy [18:11] * nlsthzn us chuffed, will get to go to Dubai this Thursday for the Oneiric release party :D [18:11] *is [18:12] thats nice [18:13] guten abend [18:17] alo inetpro [18:17] yo inetpro gaan dit goed boet [18:18] heh, ok and you guys? [18:18] well ty [18:19] * inetpro is happy that the sharks are coming home [18:19] not the sharks man [18:19] die dom bokke [18:19] lol [18:20] Kilos: now them sharks have a chance to win the local cup [18:20] yeah [18:21] * nlsthzn stays quiet, Bulls and Bokke in one week-end :( Oh well [18:21] lol [18:22] nlsthzn: you can't win them all [18:22] To true :) [18:22] yeah but its hard to wait for years or even 8 for another win [18:23] they were dom [18:23] shoulda lost the game against [18:23] um [18:23] eish [18:23] i forgot [18:24] Wales [18:24] wales maybe [18:24] I can see them winning this cup [18:24] ya then wlaes woulda played the ausies now [18:25] yeah they are super fit and very committed [18:25] Yup... but if you want to be world champs you need to be able to beat anyone IMO... [18:25] the prob was mainly the ref [18:26] gave a few bad decisions against us [18:26] and its hard to play the ref as well [18:27] watch the french rooster [18:27] anyone of them can win except the ausies [18:27] they bad guys [18:27] dirty players [18:28] their motto is win by any means [18:28] that pocock shoulda been carded he made so many illegal moves in rucks [18:28] but they name him man of the match [18:30] i got a 2 trojans today [18:30] killed pidgin [18:30] clamtk found them [18:31] Kilos: what did it found? [18:31] trojan virusses [18:32] i shoulda written it down [18:32] Kilos: hmm... [18:32] was deep in /home/miles/ more/more/ [18:33] the minute a message came in on pidgin pc hung [18:33] you shoud have posted it here [18:33] 3 reboots then i removed pidgin and got clam [18:33] yeah i shoulda [18:34] one was is pine something [18:34] dont even know what that is [18:34] Kilos: there should be a log, or perhaps it's still in your history [18:34] i was doff i didnt tell clam to save [18:35] I'm sure it's a false positive [18:35] dunno where else to look for them [18:36] whatever it was it really messed up pidgin [18:36] Kilos: how do you know that? [18:36] what? [18:36] Kilos: "it really messed up pidgin" [18:37] if i booted and didnt open pidgin then all was fine and if i opened pidgin and there was no incoming all was fine [18:38] first incoming on msn killed pidgin [18:38] Kilos: that still doesn't mean much [18:38] eish boet. i dunno what else to say [18:39] Kilos: don't wipe your evidence next time [18:39] it mighta been in somewhere else even deeper, im sorry i didnt save the results [18:39] no i wont [18:40] it wont be in cat or tail will it [18:40] or only clam [18:40] hmm.... the cat has no tail [18:40] one was somewhere in wine as well [18:40] lol [18:41] Kilos: well you seem to be playing with fire :-) [18:41] but i monly had wine to try a game months ago and it was too slow so forgot about it [18:42] i dont go online with wine [18:42] and i have ufw as well [18:42] Kilos: msn has always been bad news [18:43] then again I have not used it for a long time, perhaps they changed? [18:43] i have no choice inetpro thats where my girls are [18:43] and xmpp been sick for weeks now [18:44] Kilos: that is just wrong [18:44] what inetpro [18:44] member i told you about xmpp cutting off every 2 mins or so [18:45] i removed otr as well [18:45] little bit better [18:45] 5 mins now [18:45] Kilos: not xmpp that has been sick, more likely your gmail account that has a few buggy connections to your buddies [18:46] why would that be after over a year using it [18:46] Kilos: rename your .purple folder and start a fresh profile [18:46] even when they offline xmpp disconnects every now and again [18:47] will completely removing pidgin not do that [18:48] Kilos: no [18:48] unless you talk to it nicely [18:49] lol i used synaptic and said completely remove all the pidgin packages [18:49] then aagain you can't really talk to it, so just forget it and do it yourself [18:50] Kilos: when you uninstall thunderbird after having used it for many years, do you want it to remove all your emails? [18:50] lol i use evolution [18:50] i was desparate [18:50] Kilos: s/thunderbird/evolution/ [18:51] no pidgin no contact to that side [18:51] i know what you are getting at [18:51] i go look for .purple [18:52] Kilos: mv ~/.purple ~/.purple.20111009 [18:52] ty [18:52] Kilos: just make sure you have closed pidgin before doing that [18:52] ok [18:53] what does that do [18:53] Kilos: tell me [18:53] oh renames it [18:54] to 20111009 [18:54] no [18:54] ok wait i go look for man mv [18:54] it will just add ".20111009" to the name [18:55] could be anything else really [18:55] yes but then its .purple.20111009 not .purple [18:55] right [18:55] like mv ~/.purple ~/.purple.ThisIsMyBackupCopyOfABrokenPidginProfile [18:56] so its basically same as a rename or not [18:56] Kilos: yep mv is like rename [18:56] short for move [18:56] why would i want a backup of it anyway [18:56] Kilos: a move and a rename are the same thing, if you think about it [18:57] why not delete the whole thing [18:57] Kilos: you might want to look at some details in your profile after the fact [18:57] Kilos: because a broken backup is better than no backup at all [18:57] Kilos: that ^^ [18:57] lol [18:58] hmmmmm [18:58] hi guys [18:58] i even installed an older version of pidgin [18:58] zeref: good evenin [18:58] hi zeref [18:58] evening zeref [18:59] oh and hello superfly [18:59] pidgin and xchat and evolution are my life blood [18:59] hiya inetpro :-) [18:59] Set the file start_tron.sh in the autostart of your system << thats the same as start up application right?? [18:59] *applications [19:00] zeref: it depends [19:01] zeref: autostart gives me a shiver down me spine, makes me remember the bad old days of using windows [19:01] autoexec.bat [19:01] :fear: [19:01] inetpro: not necessarily... do you start X manually, or does it autostart? ;-) [19:01] superfly: true [19:02] superfly: I'm just not convinced that start_tron.sh is like X [19:03] inetpro: oh, absolutely... I'm just saying that autostart is not all bad [19:03] nope, homie of mine want me to test a conky themr [19:03] *theme [19:12] Kilos: you gave up now? [19:13] no just added accounts again [19:13] Kilos: ahh, I was just wondering [19:14] oh my [19:14] it sick again [19:15] Kilos: how many chat buddies do you have in gmail? [19:15] 2 [19:16] and you wil other account [19:16] only two? Are you sure? [19:16] Kilos: set pidgin to show offline buddies as well [19:16] yip it is [19:17] yeah 2 [19:17] Kilos: hmm... [19:17] i got 2 gmail acounts [19:17] one has 2 0nly [19:17] other one has 3 or 4 [19:18] hmm... [19:18] only use one so its less data running [19:18] got everything pruned to minimum [19:19] Kilos: did you start with just default plugins? [19:19] yip i got nothing extra added now [19:20] now? [19:20] since mv ing that .purple [19:20] ok [19:22] i will watch the xmpp connection and let you know [19:25] luckily i got all cache rsynced to external [19:25] Kilos: aptitude search '~S ~i pidgin' [19:25] Kilos: that will list other pidgin packages that you installed [19:25] with those ' [19:26] yep [19:26] ok sec [19:27] ok what about them [19:27] Kilos: how many to start with? [19:27] 2 i think [19:27] now 5 [19:27] blinklight and guifications [19:28] Kilos: hmm... just copy paste the packages in one line [19:28] and themes and plugin pack [19:28] to here? [19:28] hang on, you already donw it I guess [19:28] done* [19:29] done what? [19:29] try removing blinklight and guifications or at least make sure they are disabled in the plugins [19:30] i dunno if xmpp sick anymore [19:30] mustnt i first see that [19:31] i havent enabled any plugins since installing pidgin again today [19:31] Kilos: well it's always a process of elimination, check and see on a step by step basis [19:32] at the moment there are only the default plugins [19:32] Kilos: try it and see if it breaks [19:32] everyone sleeping now [19:32] ok [19:32] can only see tomorrow if they get time [19:32] lol [19:33] hard living 9 hours behind [19:33] ty inetpro i will watch [19:33] Kilos: np [19:35] Kilos: BTW that aptitude search term is handy to make a note of [19:35] yes ty i save them all, all over the place and them battle to find them again [19:36] hehe [19:36] aptitude search '~S filter pattern' - elect packages for which a single version matches both filter and pattern [19:36] oops [19:36] aptitude search '~S filter pattern' - select packages for which a single version matches both filter and pattern [19:36] filter and patterns? [19:36] the ~i filter is for selecting only installed packages [19:37] aptitude Search Term Reference http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html [19:39] ah i can wget that [19:39] ty [19:40] * Kilos loves wget [19:42] meh [19:43] zeref: you have connectivity problems? [19:44] nah, just trying out some conky themes [19:44] the screenshots look good, but they never look good on my pc [19:44] lol [19:49] why [19:51] goog ques [19:51] *good question [19:51] awee [19:52] naand oom Kilos [19:52] lo za, inetpro [19:52] er, zeref [19:52] i meant :P [19:52] naand nuvolari lekker slaap [19:52] oi, is oom op pad bed toe? [19:52] o naand hello [19:52] hi nuvolari [19:52] amper [19:52] o [19:52] ai, ek hoop oom het 'n lekker dag gehad [19:52] ek het gedink jy gaan slaap [19:53] wb nuvolari [19:53] amper, net kom groet [19:53] ja nie sleg nie dankie nuvolari [19:53] en jy [19:53] ek kan nie kla nie dankie oom [19:53] mooi [19:54] net my duifie was siek vandag [19:54] * nuvolari gee sulke woeste gapings :P [19:54] :-/ [19:54] lol [19:54] waai duifie oom? [19:54] pidgin [19:54] hehe [19:54] maar5 lyk nou weer gesond [19:54] oo, ek dog oom se duifie in australie [19:54] ok, nee dis goed [19:54] nee men [19:55] oom, wie ondersteun Tara as dit by rugby kom? [19:55] ek't nie lekker haar tweet vandag verstaan nie [19:55] sa [19:55] hulle altwee [19:55] ah! [19:55] cool :P ek't gedog sy's 'n aussie [19:55] en natal [19:55] nee tara haat hulle [19:55] :O doubleh-cool [19:56] *double [19:56] se hulle is almal skelms [19:56] Maaz: last tweet by taralsofficial [19:56] nuvolari: "@Marajax I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was fair. :P" 10 hours, 27 minutes and 15 seconds ago, http://twitter.com/TaraLSOfficial/statuses/122966857966813184 [19:56] she calls them criminal get [19:56] o wag, dis nie daai een nie [19:57] ja sy hou nie van refs wat nie reguit loop nie [19:57] sy sing nie net mooi nie :D [19:58] * nuvolari het weer so paar keer na haar video gekyk [19:58] lol [19:58] kry hoenervleis elke keer [19:59] ek ook [19:59] ons gsesls elke dag op pidgin [19:59] gesels [20:00] sy meer parmantig as haar pa [20:00] ek was nie by om boude rooi te maak nie [20:02] ok guys sleep tight. see ya all tomorrow [20:05] roflmao [20:06] Maaz: tell Kilos ag it's okay oom, otherwise she might have screamed her voice out and not sing as beautiful as she does now :P [20:06] nuvolari: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [20:07] ok, bedtime [20:07] * nuvolari maak soos mis en val in die pad [20:13] Nag mensies, ek gaan bed toe.