[03:22] <totimkopf> ek sit en ek eet vis en tjips :D
[07:47] <Squirm> Maaz: tell Kilos to please send me a link, I'm not subscribed to the list
[07:47] <Maaz> Squirm: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[08:51] <nuvolari> o/
[14:44] <Kilos> hi superfly and others
[14:51] <superfly> hi Kilos
[16:01]  * Symmetria deletes his accounts on 80% of tenet servers
[16:01] <Symmetria> :P yay, no access, no responsibility
[16:01] <Symmetria> rotfl
[16:02] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: please fix debian.mirror.ac.za first :)
[16:02] <Symmetria> tumbleweed heh, I'm retaining access to that :P
[16:02] <Symmetria> I'll still be helping with mirror from outside tenet
[16:02] <Symmetria> whats wrong with debian.mirror anyway
[16:02] <tumbleweed> stalled for a week, again
[16:03] <Symmetria> wtf, will look in a second, need to just be careful because bandwidth is in short supply at the moment
[16:03] <tumbleweed> you and ambo should probably subscribe to debian-mirrors@l.d.o as well: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/2011/10/msg00000.html
[16:03] <Symmetria> seacom is dead
[16:03] <tumbleweed> oh, that sucks
[16:03] <Symmetria> and will be dead for the next 10 to 14 days
[16:03]  * tumbleweed wonders how he didn't notice
[16:04] <Symmetria> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/371306-SEACOM-Outage
[16:04] <Symmetria> heh bargain on at least 10 days, though possibly as long as 15 
[16:06] <tumbleweed> :/
[17:50] <Kilos> hey Squirm 
[17:52] <Kilos> you been kinda scarce
[17:52] <Kilos> Maaz, spell scarce
[17:52] <Maaz> Kilos: That seems correct. Carry on
[17:52] <Kilos> yay
[17:53] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:53] <nlsthzn> Alo uncle Kilos :)
[17:53] <Kilos> sad day for sa rugger fans hey
[17:53] <nlsthzn> :'(
[17:54] <superfly> hi Kilos, nlsthzn
[17:54] <nlsthzn> Hey superfly :)
[17:54] <Kilos> hey superfly hows things?
[17:55] <superfly> Kilos: they'll be good when the food gets here
[17:55] <Kilos> lol you at a restaurant
[17:56] <superfly> no, at home!
[17:56] <Kilos> oh my
[17:57] <superfly> here it is...
[17:57] <Kilos> go help the yank
[17:57] <Kilos> lol sorry mrs_fly 
[17:57] <nlsthzn> :) om nom nom
[17:58] <superfly> chicken braai
[17:58] <Kilos> dont talk with your mouth half full
[17:58] <Kilos> fill it and shut up
[17:58] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:11]  * nlsthzn us chuffed, will get to go to Dubai this Thursday for the Oneiric release party :D
[18:11] <nlsthzn> *is
[18:12] <Kilos> thats nice
[18:13] <inetpro> guten abend
[18:17] <nlsthzn> alo inetpro 
[18:17] <Kilos> yo inetpro gaan dit goed boet
[18:18] <inetpro> heh, ok and you guys?
[18:18] <Kilos> well ty
[18:19]  * inetpro is happy that the sharks are coming home
[18:19] <Kilos> not the sharks man
[18:19] <Kilos> die dom bokke
[18:19] <inetpro> lol
[18:20] <inetpro> Kilos: now them sharks have a chance to win the local cup
[18:20] <Kilos> yeah
[18:21]  * nlsthzn stays quiet, Bulls and Bokke in one week-end :( Oh well
[18:21] <Kilos> lol
[18:22] <inetpro> nlsthzn: you can't win them all
[18:22] <nlsthzn> To true :)
[18:22] <Kilos> yeah but its hard to wait for years or even 8 for another win
[18:23] <Kilos> they were dom
[18:23] <Kilos> shoulda lost the game against
[18:23] <Kilos> um
[18:23] <Kilos> eish
[18:23] <Kilos> i forgot
[18:24] <nlsthzn> Wales
[18:24] <Kilos> wales maybe
[18:24] <nlsthzn> I can see them winning this cup
[18:24] <Kilos> ya then wlaes woulda played the ausies now
[18:25] <Kilos> yeah they are super fit and very committed
[18:25] <nlsthzn> Yup... but if you want to be world champs you need to be able to beat anyone IMO...
[18:25] <Kilos> the prob was mainly the ref
[18:26] <Kilos> gave a few bad decisions against us
[18:26] <Kilos> and its hard to play the ref as well
[18:27] <inetpro> watch the french rooster 
[18:27] <Kilos> anyone of them can win except the ausies
[18:27] <Kilos> they bad guys
[18:27] <Kilos> dirty players
[18:28] <Kilos> their motto is win by any means
[18:28] <Kilos> that pocock shoulda been carded he made so many illegal moves in rucks
[18:28] <Kilos> but they name him man of the match
[18:30] <Kilos> i got a 2 trojans today
[18:30] <Kilos> killed pidgin
[18:30] <Kilos> clamtk found them
[18:31] <inetpro> Kilos: what did it found?
[18:31] <Kilos> trojan virusses
[18:32] <Kilos> i shoulda written it down
[18:32] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm...
[18:32] <Kilos> was deep in /home/miles/ more/more/
[18:33] <Kilos> the minute a message came in on pidgin pc hung
[18:33] <inetpro> you shoud have posted it here
[18:33] <Kilos> 3 reboots then i removed pidgin and got clam
[18:33] <Kilos> yeah i shoulda
[18:34] <Kilos> one was is pine something
[18:34] <Kilos> dont even know what that is
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: there should be a log, or perhaps it's still in your history
[18:34] <Kilos> i was doff i didnt tell clam to save
[18:35] <inetpro> I'm sure it's a false positive
[18:35] <Kilos> dunno where else to look for them
[18:36] <Kilos> whatever it was it really messed up pidgin
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: how do you know that?
[18:36] <Kilos> what?
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: "it really messed up pidgin"
[18:37] <Kilos> if i booted and didnt open pidgin then all was fine and if i opened pidgin and there was no incoming all was fine
[18:38] <Kilos> first incoming on msn killed pidgin
[18:38] <inetpro> Kilos: that still doesn't mean much
[18:38] <Kilos> eish boet. i dunno what else to say
[18:39] <inetpro> Kilos: don't wipe your evidence next time
[18:39] <Kilos> it mighta been in somewhere else even deeper, im sorry i didnt save the results
[18:39] <Kilos> no i wont
[18:40] <Kilos> it wont be in cat or tail will it
[18:40] <Kilos> or only clam
[18:40] <inetpro> hmm.... the cat has no tail
[18:40] <Kilos> one was somewhere in wine as well
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:41] <inetpro> Kilos: well you seem to be playing with fire :-)
[18:41] <Kilos> but i monly had wine to try a game months ago and it was too slow so forgot about it
[18:42] <Kilos> i dont go online with wine
[18:42] <Kilos> and i have ufw as well
[18:42] <inetpro> Kilos: msn has always been bad news
[18:43] <inetpro> then again I have not used it for a long time, perhaps they changed?
[18:43] <Kilos> i have no choice inetpro thats where my girls are
[18:43] <Kilos> and xmpp been sick for weeks now
[18:44] <inetpro> Kilos: that is just wrong
[18:44] <Kilos> what inetpro 
[18:44] <Kilos> member i told you about xmpp cutting off every 2 mins or so
[18:45] <Kilos> i removed otr as well
[18:45] <Kilos> little bit better
[18:45] <Kilos> 5 mins now
[18:45] <inetpro> Kilos: not xmpp that has been sick, more likely your gmail account that has a few buggy connections to your buddies
[18:46] <Kilos> why would that be after over a year using it
[18:46] <inetpro> Kilos: rename your .purple folder and start a fresh profile
[18:46] <Kilos> even when they offline xmpp disconnects every now and again
[18:47] <Kilos> will completely removing pidgin not do that
[18:48] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[18:48] <inetpro> unless you talk to it nicely
[18:49] <Kilos> lol i used synaptic and said completely remove all the pidgin packages
[18:49] <inetpro> then aagain you can't really talk to it, so just forget it and do it yourself
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: when you uninstall thunderbird after having used it for many years, do you want it to remove all your emails?
[18:50] <Kilos> lol i use evolution
[18:50] <Kilos> i was desparate
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: s/thunderbird/evolution/
[18:51] <Kilos> no pidgin no contact to that side
[18:51] <Kilos> i know what you are getting at
[18:51] <Kilos> i go look for .purple
[18:52] <inetpro> Kilos: mv ~/.purple ~/.purple.20111009
[18:52] <Kilos> ty
[18:52] <inetpro> Kilos: just make sure you have closed pidgin before doing that
[18:52] <Kilos> ok
[18:53] <Kilos> what does that do
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos: tell me
[18:53] <Kilos> oh renames it
[18:54] <Kilos> to 20111009
[18:54] <inetpro> no
[18:54] <Kilos> ok wait i go look for man mv
[18:54] <inetpro> it will just add ".20111009" to the name
[18:55] <inetpro> could be anything else really
[18:55] <Kilos> yes but then its .purple.20111009 not .purple
[18:55] <Kilos> right
[18:55] <inetpro> like mv ~/.purple ~/.purple.ThisIsMyBackupCopyOfABrokenPidginProfile
[18:56] <Kilos> so its basically same as a rename or not
[18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: yep mv is like rename
[18:56] <inetpro> short for move 
[18:56] <Kilos> why would i want a backup of it anyway
[18:56] <superfly> Kilos: a move and a rename are the same thing, if you think about it
[18:57] <Kilos> why not delete the whole thing
[18:57] <inetpro> Kilos: you might want to look at some details in your profile after the fact
[18:57] <superfly> Kilos: because a broken backup is better than no backup at all
[18:57] <inetpro> Kilos: that ^^
[18:57] <Kilos> lol
[18:58] <zeref> hmmmmm
[18:58] <zeref> hi guys
[18:58] <Kilos> i even installed an older version of pidgin
[18:58] <inetpro> zeref: good evenin
[18:58] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[18:58] <superfly> evening zeref
[18:59] <inetpro> oh and hello superfly
[18:59] <Kilos> pidgin and xchat and evolution are my life blood
[18:59] <superfly> hiya inetpro :-)
[18:59] <zeref> Set the file start_tron.sh in the autostart of your system  << thats the same as start up application right??
[18:59] <zeref> *applications
[19:00] <superfly> zeref: it depends
[19:01] <inetpro> zeref: autostart gives me a shiver down me spine, makes me remember the bad old days of using windows
[19:01] <nlsthzn> autoexec.bat
[19:01] <zeref> :fear:
[19:01] <superfly> inetpro: not necessarily... do you start X manually, or does it autostart? ;-)
[19:01] <inetpro> superfly: true 
[19:02] <inetpro> superfly: I'm just not convinced that start_tron.sh is like X
[19:03] <superfly> inetpro: oh, absolutely... I'm just saying that autostart is not all bad
[19:03] <zeref> nope, homie of mine want me to test a conky themr
[19:03] <zeref> *theme
[19:12] <inetpro> Kilos: you gave up now?
[19:13] <Kilos> no just added accounts again
[19:13] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh, I was just wondering
[19:14] <Kilos> oh my
[19:14] <Kilos> it sick again
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: how many chat buddies do you have in gmail?
[19:15] <Kilos> 2
[19:16] <Kilos> and you wil other account
[19:16] <inetpro> only two? Are you sure?
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: set pidgin to show offline buddies as well
[19:16] <Kilos> yip it is
[19:17] <Kilos> yeah 2
[19:17] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm...
[19:17] <Kilos> i got 2 gmail acounts
[19:17] <Kilos> one has 2 0nly
[19:17] <Kilos> other one has 3 or 4
[19:18] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:18] <Kilos> only use one so its less data running
[19:18] <Kilos> got everything pruned to minimum
[19:19] <inetpro> Kilos: did you start with just default plugins?
[19:19] <Kilos> yip i got nothing extra added now
[19:20] <inetpro> now?
[19:20] <Kilos> since mv ing that .purple
[19:20] <inetpro> ok
[19:22] <Kilos> i will watch the xmpp connection and let you know
[19:25] <Kilos> luckily i got all cache rsynced to external
[19:25] <inetpro> Kilos: aptitude search '~S ~i pidgin'
[19:25] <inetpro> Kilos: that will list other pidgin packages that you installed
[19:25] <Kilos> with those '
[19:26] <inetpro> yep
[19:26] <Kilos> ok sec
[19:27] <Kilos> ok what about them
[19:27] <inetpro> Kilos: how many to start with?
[19:27] <Kilos> 2 i think
[19:27] <Kilos> now 5
[19:27] <Kilos> blinklight and guifications
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm... just copy paste the packages in one line 
[19:28] <Kilos> and themes and plugin pack
[19:28] <Kilos> to here?
[19:28] <inetpro> hang on, you already donw it I guess
[19:28] <inetpro> done*
[19:29] <Kilos> done what?
[19:29] <inetpro> try removing blinklight and guifications or at least make sure they are disabled in the plugins
[19:30] <Kilos> i dunno if xmpp sick anymore
[19:30] <Kilos> mustnt i first see that
[19:31] <Kilos> i havent enabled any plugins since installing pidgin again today
[19:31] <inetpro> Kilos: well it's always a process of elimination, check and see on a step by step basis
[19:32] <Kilos> at the moment there are only the default plugins
[19:32] <inetpro> Kilos: try it and see if it breaks
[19:32] <Kilos> everyone sleeping now
[19:32] <inetpro> ok
[19:32] <Kilos> can only see tomorrow if they get time
[19:32] <Kilos> lol
[19:33] <Kilos> hard living 9 hours behind
[19:33] <Kilos> ty inetpro i will watch
[19:33] <inetpro> Kilos: np
[19:35] <inetpro> Kilos: BTW that aptitude search term is handy to make a note of
[19:35] <Kilos> yes ty i save them all, all over the place and them battle to find them again
[19:36] <Kilos> hehe
[19:36] <inetpro> aptitude search '~S filter pattern' - elect packages for which a single version matches both filter and pattern
[19:36] <inetpro> oops
[19:36] <inetpro> aptitude search '~S filter pattern' - select packages for which a single version matches both filter and pattern
[19:36] <Kilos> filter and patterns?
[19:36] <inetpro> the ~i filter is for selecting only installed packages
[19:37] <inetpro> aptitude Search Term Reference http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html
[19:39] <Kilos> ah i can wget that
[19:39] <Kilos> ty
[19:40]  * Kilos loves wget
[19:42] <zeref> meh
[19:43] <inetpro> zeref: you have connectivity problems?
[19:44] <zeref> nah, just trying out some conky themes
[19:44] <zeref> the screenshots look good, but they never look good on my pc
[19:44] <zeref> lol
[19:49] <Kilos> why
[19:51] <zeref> goog ques
[19:51] <zeref> *good question
[19:51] <nuvolari> awee
[19:52] <nuvolari> naand oom Kilos 
[19:52] <nuvolari> lo za, inetpro 
[19:52] <nuvolari> er, zeref 
[19:52] <nuvolari> i meant :P
[19:52] <Kilos> naand nuvolari lekker slaap
[19:52] <nuvolari> oi, is oom op pad bed toe?
[19:52] <Kilos> o naand hello
[19:52] <zeref> hi nuvolari 
[19:52] <Kilos> amper
[19:52] <nuvolari> o
[19:52] <nuvolari> ai, ek hoop oom het 'n lekker dag gehad
[19:52] <Kilos> ek het gedink jy gaan slaap
[19:53] <inetpro> wb nuvolari
[19:53] <nuvolari> amper, net kom groet
[19:53] <Kilos> ja nie sleg nie dankie nuvolari 
[19:53] <Kilos> en jy
[19:53] <nuvolari> ek kan nie kla nie dankie oom
[19:53] <Kilos> mooi
[19:54] <Kilos> net my duifie was siek vandag
[19:54]  * nuvolari gee sulke woeste gapings :P
[19:54] <nuvolari> :-/ 
[19:54] <Kilos> lol
[19:54] <nuvolari> waai duifie oom?
[19:54] <Kilos> pidgin
[19:54] <Kilos> hehe
[19:54] <Kilos> maar5 lyk nou weer gesond
[19:54] <nuvolari> oo, ek dog oom se duifie in australie
[19:54] <nuvolari> ok, nee dis goed
[19:54] <Kilos> nee men
[19:55] <nuvolari> oom, wie ondersteun Tara as dit by rugby kom?
[19:55] <nuvolari> ek't nie lekker haar tweet vandag verstaan nie
[19:55] <Kilos> sa
[19:55] <Kilos> hulle altwee
[19:55] <nuvolari> ah!
[19:55] <nuvolari> cool :P ek't gedog sy's 'n aussie
[19:55] <Kilos> en natal
[19:55] <Kilos> nee tara haat hulle
[19:55] <nuvolari> :O doubleh-cool
[19:56] <nuvolari> *double
[19:56] <Kilos> se hulle is almal skelms
[19:56] <nuvolari> Maaz: last tweet by taralsofficial
[19:56] <Maaz> nuvolari: "@Marajax I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was fair. :P" 10 hours, 27 minutes and 15 seconds ago, http://twitter.com/TaraLSOfficial/statuses/122966857966813184
[19:56] <Kilos> she calls them criminal get
[19:56] <nuvolari> o wag, dis nie daai een nie
[19:57] <Kilos> ja sy hou nie van refs wat nie reguit loop nie
[19:57] <nuvolari> sy sing nie net mooi nie :D
[19:58]  * nuvolari het weer so paar keer na haar video gekyk
[19:58] <Kilos> lol
[19:58] <nuvolari> kry hoenervleis elke keer
[19:59] <Kilos> ek ook
[19:59] <Kilos> ons gsesls elke dag op pidgin
[19:59] <Kilos> gesels
[20:00] <Kilos> sy meer parmantig as haar pa
[20:00] <Kilos> ek was nie by om boude rooi te maak nie
[20:02] <Kilos> ok guys sleep tight. see ya all tomorrow
[20:05] <nuvolari> roflmao
[20:06] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell Kilos ag it's okay oom, otherwise she might have screamed her voice out and not sing as beautiful as she does now :P
[20:06] <Maaz> nuvolari: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[20:07] <nuvolari> ok, bedtime
[20:07]  * nuvolari maak soos mis en val in die pad
[20:13] <superfly> Nag mensies, ek gaan bed toe.