[00:00] <fdge> er.. path
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[00:00] <BouerBouer> okay so how do I change my profile now in Firefox?
[00:01] <bazhang> slinzex, there is no ubuntu 11
[00:01] <bazhang> slinzex, did you mean 11.04 or 11.10
[00:01] <fdge> is there a profile.ini file?
[00:01] <BouerBouer> fdge in where?
[00:01] <fictional> i think firefox uses session files
[00:02] <fdge> with the mozilla folder
[00:02] <RangerMan> BouerBouer: Perhaps I will just change to Xubuntu.
[00:02] <slinzex> sorry
[00:02] <slinzex> 11.10
[00:02] <slinzex> with gnome3
[00:02] <BouerBouer> rangerman: your choice, personally I'm open to change and I'm enjoying Unity so far
[00:02] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 slinzex
[00:02] <alexmhso> Hey I just installed ubuntu and am having multiple issues with gnome panels and with installing software
[00:02] <fictional> anyone have issues with the white window bug with nvidia drivers?
[00:02] <BouerBouer> fdge yeah there is a profile.ini file
[00:02] <slinzex> ?
[00:03] <bazhang> fictional, whats the bug link
[00:03] <bazhang> slinzex, #ubuntu+1 the channel for support of 11.10
[00:03] <fdge> if you edit it you can tell it to load the folder containing your other profile
[00:03] <fictional> well the bug was you would have white windows upon rezie it would show contents read it was nvidia drivers
[00:04] <alexmhso> synaptic will not let me install vlc, because of dependent packages and it says "the following packages have unresolved dependencies..."
[00:04] <cetta> hey
[00:04] <bazhang> fictional, got the bug link?
[00:04] <RangerMan> BouerBouer: it'll probably allow for all the same stuff that Ubuntu does , ease of use, so on ?
[00:04] <fictional> im trying to determine if its kernel issues gnome or nvidia drivers
[00:04] <fictional> yeah let me get it
[00:05] <cetta> hey all
[00:05] <cetta> i need some help
[00:05] <BouerBouer> rangerman: yeah, but the UI is different that's all
[00:05] <fictional> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/752445
[00:05] <cetta> hey guys
[00:05] <fictional> theres the bug link
[00:05] <cetta> anyone there?
[00:06] <cetta> i need to know how to run a proxy on ubuntu 11.04
[00:06] <fdge> cetta if you don't ask what you need help with your never going to get help
[00:06] <cetta> i need help with a proxy
[00:06] <cetta> im a total newb
[00:06] <alexmhso> I need help installing VLC and other third party software
[00:06] <fictional> but iim not entirely haveing that issue but i was and switched drivers around
[00:06] <BouerBouer> brb going to restart my computer
[00:07] <SIFTU> cetta: plenty of squid tutorial out there
[00:07] <fictional> here is waht im trying to do and worked before i used wine with world or warcraft and other games i updated and all messed up the issue is i cant get wine or vm box to show the game in the same desktop resolution
[00:08] <fdge> cetta have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/squid.html ?
[00:08] <alexmhso> I need help, for any software I continuously get the error "Package dependencies cannot be resolved". Solution?
[00:08] <cetta> thats the thing, fdge, i dled squid but it still didnt work
[00:09] <SIFTU> cetta: did you configure it?
[00:09] <cetta> i keep running into errors
[00:09] <cetta> i tried...
[00:09] <fictional> alex try the synaptic pakage manager
[00:09] <cetta> i just screwed up alot of stuff.
[00:09] <cetta> i dont even know what i did anymore
[00:10] <fdge> I like to use virtual machines, delete machine, create machine
[00:10] <alexmhso> is there any acknowledgement that my messages are even getting into this channel? Sorry for being terse, but if I am not asking properly someone please tell me
[00:10] <fictional> alex also use terminal sudo apt-get install (name of software)
[00:10] <alexmhso> fictional: i got the same error
[00:11] <pitlimit> Not sure if anyone can help me, but I am trying to install libpcap from the repositories but I don't know which package to choose. Can anyone help me?
[00:11] <hatch> if I want to remove all lines matching a regex from a text file would 'sed' be the correct command? or is there a mode widely used one
[00:11] <fictional> alex whats the error int erminal?
[00:12] <alexmhso> fictional: http://pastebin.com/fzynpr7S
[00:12] <cetta> how do i configure this?
[00:12] <cetta> where do i even find it?
[00:12] <cetta> please help me
[00:12] <custom_> G'day my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[00:12] <alexmhso> fictional: synaptic and ubuntu software center give me the same issue
[00:12] <custom_> I hope you all are doing well.
[00:13] <alexmhso> fictional: it is also for both wine and VLC
[00:13] <BouerBouer> hey fdge, just fixed it myself =D
[00:13] <fictional> alex check this website
[00:13] <fictional> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947124
[00:13] <BouerBouer> all you do is find the profile you want to restore
[00:14] <fictional> also i dunno if i would install wine 1.3
[00:14] <BouerBouer> copy the CONTENTS of the folder over to your new profile folder
[00:14] <BouerBouer> the merge/rewrite and it should work fine
[00:14] <fictional> im haveing issues with "something"
[00:14] <fictional> trying to run wow and wine and nvidia and something wont work right
[00:14] <fdge> as long as it works
[00:15] <FireRailz> how do I change my apt-get cache back to the system wide version?
[00:15] <fdge> cetta, https://www.virtualbox.org/
[00:15] <alexmhso> fictional: still no good
[00:16] <cetta> fdge: is that a proxy?
[00:16] <fictional> still says broke packages?
[00:16] <SIFTU> hatch: yes sed
[00:16] <fdge> what do you need a proxy for?
[00:17] <cetta> to hide my IP addy on IRC. i use Konversation normally.
[00:17] <hatch> SIFTU: thanks, just wanted to make sure I was learning the right command :)
[00:17] <alexmhso> fictional: yes same error occurs
[00:17] <SIFTU> cetta: just get a cloak in #freenode
[00:17] <cetta> i go on efnet and everything
[00:17] <SIFTU> cetta: else use ssh tunnels
[00:17] <cetta> ssh tunnels?
[00:18] <SIFTU> cetta: yes
[00:20] <cetta> well
[00:20] <cetta> cant someone help me with squid?
[00:20] <cetta> i did a few things but
[00:20] <cetta> a few things got screwed up
[00:20] <cetta> ill even talk to someone on the phone
[00:20] <cetta> if they can help me and walk me thru it
[00:20] <fictional> i think this is waht i did to get wine 1.3 to install but it might have messed up my ability to play games
[00:20] <fictional> sudo apt-get update>sudo apt-get autoclean>sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:20] <fictional> also i had to completely remove old wine
[00:21] <fictional> i used synaptic and searched for wine and uninstalled them
[00:21] <pooltable> autoclean what does it do ?
[00:21] <yagoo> pooltable, clears the disk automatically of downloaded deb files you don't need anymore..
[00:21] <pangolin> cetta: you may want to try #squid
[00:22] <SIFTU> cetta: so you have a server somewhere ele you use?
[00:22] <alexmhso> fictional: as of now I have a fresh installation of ubuntu 10.04 with no wine or vlc
[00:22] <fictional> cleans junk files up
[00:22] <cetta> pangolin: i installed squid, tried to do some configuration, screwed some stuff up, need help with it
[00:22] <fictional> int he packages
[00:22] <fdge> give details
[00:22] <cetta> SIFTU: i use Konversation usually, and i go on all sorts of servers
[00:23] <SIFTU> cetta: so where are you installing the proxy
[00:23] <pangolin> cetta: you may want to try /join #squid
[00:23] <pooltable> also autoremove ???
[00:23] <LABcrab> What is the heart application in Ubuntu?
[00:23] <fictional> when i first installed wine i did sudo apt-get install wine 1.2
[00:23] <cetta> SIFTU: in the terminal
[00:23] <cetta> pangolin: thank you!
[00:23] <SIFTU> cetta: on your local machine?
[00:23] <yagoo> pooltable, there's many options.. you should check the manpage (man dpkg)
[00:24] <fictional> 1.3 wine is beta so there might be issues with it
[00:24] <cetta> SIFTU: my local machine?
[00:24] <pangolin> LABcrab: what do you mean by heart application?
[00:24] <fictional> 1.2 wine stable 1.3 is beta
[00:24] <SIFTU> cetta: yeah, are you installing it on your local machine.. if so it wont do anythign to hide your IP
[00:24] <fdge> local machine = current machine your on
[00:25] <cetta> SIFTU: how do i know where im installing it?
[00:25] <yagoo> local == means right at your finger tips
[00:25] <Meshezabeel> What day is 11.10 supposed to be released?
[00:25] <SIFTU> cetta: sorry I dont think i can help you
[00:25] <cetta> SIFTU: i know, im a total newb
[00:25] <pangolin> Meshezabeel: the 13th see #ubuntu+1 for more info/support
[00:25] <cetta> x_x
[00:26] <Meshezabeel> thanks pangolin :) just noticed that in the topic too :p
[00:26] <FireRailz> Becides ircii or epic what is the best console based IRC program?
[00:26] <tensorpudding> !best | FireRailz
[00:26] <fictional> autoremove to clean up uneeded packages
[00:27] <FireRailz> Let me rephrase that I'm not experienced and am trying to find one that is easy to use
[00:27] <LABcrab> pangolin: heart in the system monitor runs as an application.
[00:27] <SIFTU> cetta: there is just too much to explain
[00:27] <FireRailz> I dont want to take a poll i just want to know one that would be easy to use
[00:27] <LABcrab> FireRailz: There's also pingin-text to consider.  Finch?
[00:27] <cetta> SIFTU: if you can, we can go on the phone and you can walk me through it step by step, i wouldnt mind that
[00:27] <SIFTU> FireRailz: weechat
[00:27] <pangolin> FireRailz: irssi is a popular CLI client and has an very good FAQ
[00:28] <yagoo> FireRailz, http://www.google.com/search?q=console+irc+List+of+site%3Awikipedia.org&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=OFi&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=list+of+irc+software+site:wikipedia.org&pbx=1&oq=list+of+irc+software+site:wikipedia.org&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=4803l5286l1l5502l2l2l0l0l0l0l14
[00:28] <yagoo> 8l262l0.2l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=9ed19217792a347e&biw=1280&bih=857
[00:28] <yagoo> dam long url
[00:28] <yagoo> yikes
[00:28] <pangolin> long link is broken
[00:28] <FloodBot1> yagoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <LABcrab> What is the heart application in Ubuntu?
[00:28]  * yagoo googles "list of irc software site:wikipedia.org"
[00:28] <yagoo> you can try that between the quotes..
[00:29] <fdge> cetta what siftu is trying to say is you don't understand how the internet works
[00:29] <fictional> alex did you get it working?
[00:29] <FireRailz> someone said above a plugin for pidgin?
[00:29] <cetta> fdge i dont deny this
[00:29] <cetta> but i can follow directions
[00:30] <fdge> when you connect to a proxy to a web site the web site has teh address of the proxy server
[00:30] <LABcrab> What is the heart application found in Ubuntu?
[00:30] <pangolin> cetta: I really believe the best place for you to get help is in #squid. also, a friendly suggestions is to not use the enter key as punctuation and clearly state what you are trying to achieve.
[00:30] <cetta> okay pangolin thank you!
[00:30] <fdge> so if the proxy server is on your local machine it defeats the purpose
[00:31] <yagoo> cetta, you can also try something like webmin to setup squid
[00:31] <fictional> does the dekstop envirment control the window resolutions or does nvidia drivers handle it?
[00:31] <pangolin> !webmin | yagoo
[00:31] <LABcrab> What does this heart?  Is it the heart of the princess?
[00:31] <pangolin> hmm, anyway webmin is no longer supported in either Ubuntu or Debian.
[00:32] <yagoo> pangolin, can you at least say an alternative?
[00:32] <LABcrab> Hearts of the heart what does heart do!?
[00:32] <cetta> thank you everyone for your help, i'll look up all the stuff youre saying, and i'm in #squid now, and no ones talking
[00:32] <cetta> but for the time being, can you help me cover my IP address on IRC Konversation client on all servers?
[00:32] <LABcrab> 92 KB app sleeping.
[00:32] <pangolin> yagoo: no I can't.
[00:32] <BouerBouer> hey guys problem with firefox, I updated the profile for it from my other OS (I'm in a dual boot setup) by copying and pasting the contents of the profile folder, now firefox itself works fine...
[00:32] <yagoo> pangolin, then he'll use webmin as he pleases.
[00:32] <yagoo> thanks
[00:33] <BouerBouer> BUT now the Unity icon for it in the tray has disappeared and where it's supposed to say Firefox it says "Label Empty"
[00:33] <BouerBouer> what happened?
[00:33] <LABcrab> WHAT does this do?  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man3/heart.3erl.html
[00:33] <pangolin> yagoo: it is no longer supported because it breaks both debian and ubuntu. do not recommend unsupported applications. thank you.
[00:33] <LABcrab> !erlang
[00:34] <FireRailz> What search terms would I use to find a faq on why files are placed in certain directories like what /etc is for or usr/bin or why thats used sometimes and usr/local to understand the directory structure
[00:34] <yagoo> well its still broken even if he doesnt use it, so you have no alternative that's not helpful.
[00:34] <yagoo> FireRailz, the standard is have stuff in /usr/share/doc
[00:35] <LABcrab> WHAT does this weird little heart application thing do in Ubuntu 11.04 for 64-bit computers please?  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man3/heart.3erl.html
[00:35] <jrib> !fhs | FireRailz
[00:35] <pangolin> and recommending unsupported apps is also not helpful because the moment he has an issue with it and mentions that he is using it in ubuntu or debian neither of the official supports channels will help him. You going to give him your home phone number to help him with it?
[00:35] <yagoo> FireRailz, if you're talking about the lfs (linus filesystem hierarchy).. there's a website for this
[00:35] <cetta> yeah
[00:36] <LABcrab> UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH!
[00:36] <yagoo> pangolin, well he's only being told #squid. So i don't think nobody is supporting him anyways.
[00:36] <fictional> anyone useing nvidia drivers and gameing?
[00:36] <yagoo> anyone..
[00:36] <FireRailz> thank you for the link because i noticed every distro was different ubuntu/debian i couldnt find
[00:36] <cetta> im a she
[00:36] <LABcrab> fictional: ATI here.
[00:37] <yagoo> FireRailz, they mostly share the same things.. it's largely the startup scripts that differ
[00:37] <pangolin> cetta: apologies I default to he, no disrespect intended.
[00:37] <FireRailz> and i dont understand why sometimes programs installed from source put the executible in /usr/local/bin instead of where other exec programs are put
[00:37] <yagoo> FireRailz, (when i say share, i mean linux fileystem hierarchy, like /etc /tmp, that sort of stuff-- the "compiles" of rpm and deb packages are different)
[00:37] <cetta> haha, its totally fine
[00:38] <yagoo> FireRailz, that's because they're not traced by your package manager.. third party stuff can go in <>/local, or sometimes i see /opt
[00:38] <yagoo> FireRailz, third-party stuff as tarball installers
[00:39] <FireRailz> yagoo yes i understand i am new to debian and i love it im mainly getting back into linux since i used to work with ATT Unix then BSD
[00:39] <FireRailz> then came back into the picture with redhat based but i like debian so much better
[00:39] <yagoo> FireRailz, dpkg -L bash -- shows your installed files for eg..
[00:39] <fictional> yagoo do you play games?
[00:40] <yagoo> (that eg was for bash-- to see a list of installed packages u can do -> dpkg -l )
[00:40] <Polah> !checkinstall | FireRails yagoo
[00:40] <alexmhso> fictional: i am going to reinstall ubuntu altogether because my internet was going in and out when i was installing, so might have had some corruption or something. Then if it still doesn't work I will return
[00:40] <yagoo> Polah, he's asking about the structure of how linux works..
[00:40] <yagoo> Polah, nothing technical here..
[00:41] <FireRailz> I saw that program and installed it I will use that for compiled programs that are complex
[00:41] <yagoo> FireRailz, you're confusingme..hehehe..
[00:41] <FireRailz> but for bsflite i didnt use checkinstall because its only two files and easy to remove
[00:41] <Polah> yagoo: Still relevant to installing programs from source and how to register them in apt
[00:41] <FireRailz> and thank you for the link for the tree
[00:41] <yagoo> FireRailz, if you've been using unix for years.. you would like to take a look at the .deb making tools..
[00:41] <sgs2_usr> hi guys, anyone here can tell me how to have bluetooth-applet in the panel but to have bluetooth turned off when booted up ?
[00:42] <FireRailz> thank you for the filesystem tree overview and just starting to get into the .deb making tools. I'm learning how to go from unix to this while a lot is familiar and works the same im just learning the differences
[00:42] <pooltable> #xubuntu
[00:43] <FireRailz> but the package manager is a god send
[00:43] <sgs2_usr> pooltable, are you referring me to #xubuntu?
[00:43] <yagoo> FireRailz, I also wouldn't trust any make installer wrap scripts because if u don't know what the resulted scripts are doing-- u can really bork ur system :/
[00:43] <pinkfox> i have ubuntu 11.04. i want to change the realignment of my monitors, but when i open the monitor settings, it does not detect my external monitor
[00:44] <pinkfox> but connecting the display works just fine..
[00:44] <pooltable> no sorry i for got the /j
[00:44] <sgs2_usr> pooltable, lol
[00:45] <FireRailz> yagoo I wont compile anything with make install without having it made into a .deb file i was just talking about compiling one program that all it did was install two files and was completely safe nothing more complex i wont trust either
[00:45] <fdge> cetta, if you really need / want a proxy server you can use a public. It sounds like this would be what you wanted in the first place. http://www.publicproxyservers.com/
[00:46] <yagoo> FireRailz, you also don't need to do make install to /.. you can make a little subdir tmp sandbox (use make with a non-root user)
[00:46] <sgs2_usr> does anyone here know how to configure the state of the laptop lid when dock and undock from the docking station for HP EliteBook 8540w laptop?
[00:47] <yagoo> sgs2_usr, probably the "lids" module can simply be blacklisted or something if there is one, (lsmod |grep -i lid)
[00:47] <FireRailz> also i have to use command line txt based only apps since im using a screen reader I'm not transitioned to orca in the GUI
[00:47] <sgs2_usr> yagoo, blacklisted?
[00:47] <FireRailz> unlike windows where i can use window eyes or jaws its touch learning a new screen reader im visually impared so cli programs are easiest for me
[00:48] <FireRailz> so I need to find programs that are easy to install so i dont have to compile
[00:48] <sgs2_usr> yagoo, i issued the command it returns nothing  back
[00:49] <lion42> FireRailz, I use orca in gnome 2. It isn't too difficult?
[00:49] <Polah> FireRailz: Chances are that a lot of the program you want are already in the repos or can be installed through PPAs so they can be handled by apt
[00:49] <lion42> But what sorts of programs are you looking for, yes.
[00:50] <FireRailz> orca isn't too difficult no but i'm still learning, as you know it doesnt read everything properly but thats expected in any screen reader even in windows or mac i use my lite talk hooked up to a serial port in the CLI so i dont have to use the GUI
[00:50] <thenickperson> hey guys
[00:50] <FireRailz> I'm just trying to find a good program for all the types of chat services that will work well in the cli
[00:51] <binarymutant> FireRailz: irssi + bitlbee
[00:52] <thenickperson> how can I change the font of the recovery console and the terminal i get through ctrl-alt-F1?
[00:53] <SIFTU> FireRailz: yeah most visually impared people use irssi as its the best for screenreaders..
[00:54] <FireRailz> thanks for the suggestion i have it installing now
[00:54] <intens3> hi all, got a 10.10 laptop external monitor issue (toshiba tecra a6)...  external monitor is recognized but is blank, no luck after fiddling with the monitor settings, the monitor works with other computers so it's not a hardware issue; any suggestions?
[00:58] <_GhouL_> intens3, You are using Nvidea?
[00:59] <fictional> anyone tried gnome 3 for 11?
[01:00] <_GhouL_> fictional, I have tried it in a virtual machine
[01:00] <intens3> hi _GhouL_, I have the integrated intel graphics
[01:00] <_GhouL_> fictional, looking forward for the final release
[01:00] <fictional> its looks rally good
[01:01] <intens3> my external monitor used to work, but after a series up updates recently it stopped - not sure if it was a kernel update that made it stop
[01:01] <fictional> really*
[01:01] <_GhouL_> fictional, absolutely especially compared to my 10.04
[01:01] <FireRailz> So when using Wubi that makes it so your computer can't sleep or hibernate I gather?
[01:01] <fictional> intense3 i upgraded something too and my stuff is ^(*&^%^
[01:02] <_GhouL_> intens3, did you tried the preference->monitor  menu?
[01:02] <fictional> i read soemething about dual monitors on goole useing the system testing menu
[01:03] <intens3> _GhouL_, yes, I tried all the possible combinations of settings that I could; the monitor is recognized, the screen space exists - so I can actually drag windows into the area, but the screen itself is blank...  hope that makes sense
[01:04] <_GhouL_> intens3, I tried but sorry I can't help you, I have no idea
[01:04] <fdge> what is the resolution of teh second monitor?
[01:04] <RenaKunisaki> how to change the default window manager in Xfce?
[01:05] <intens3> _GhouL_, thanks I appreciate it; I've been googling through the forums etc. but I haven't found any solutions yet, if you have any ideas on where else to look that would be great;  Thanks again.
[01:05] <intens3> fdge, the external monitor is a dell 15", resolution is 1024x768
[01:06] <fdge> and what does ubuntu have the resolution for the second monitor set at?
[01:06] <thenickperson> how can I change the font of the recovery console and the terminal i get through ctrl-alt-F1?
[01:07] <intens3> fdge, my laptop display is 1280x800, and the external monitor is set at 1024x768.
[01:07] <fdge> what about refresh rate?
[01:07] <intens3> both are set to 60hz
[01:08] <fdge> I would try changing it for the second monitor
[01:08] <intens3> the external monitor is still blank when I set "Same image in both monitors" as well
[01:09] <wolter> I removed the banshee sound-menu entry, how can I restore it?
[01:09] <fdge> it sounds like your computer is outputing a display that the monitor cannot handle
[01:10] <intens3> it would seem that way, when I connect this monitor to a second laptop running ubuntu, it will accept the video input with no issues
[01:10] <intens3> this laptop used to have no issues until I upgraded the kernel not too long ago
[01:11] <raxial> hi...just going to lurk for a bit :)
[01:12] <sgs2_usr> can anyone tell me what is dbus?
[01:12] <saruji> hello, every single time I install mint 11 32bit on my e1505 dell laptop, the broadcom sta wireless drivers install but do not show any networks as being avaliable....been searching and aching for a solution....any help?
[01:12] <saruji> please?
[01:12] <fictional> intense waht version of ubuntu you useing?
[01:12] <cbarnardo> Does anyone know how to fix this? http://dpaste.de/G66ce/ I am having dependency probelms with python2.7-dev on natty. I use the deadsnakes ppa https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/deadsnakes. ty.
[01:12] <bazhang> saruji, mint support for that
[01:12] <saruji> btw same problem on ubuntu
[01:12] <intens3> fictional, I'm using maverick 10.10
[01:12] <cbarnardo>  
[01:12] <fictional> my kernel is version 2.6.38-11-generic
[01:12] <fdge> does another monitor work on the laptop? in other words are you sure a single is coming out of it?
[01:13] <fdge> that is all the ideas I have, sorry
[01:13] <saruji> bazhang: same problem on ubuntu
[01:13] <fictional> im have a white window/window decoration resoultion issue
[01:13] <fictional> after and update
[01:13] <sgs2_usr> fdge: im using dual external monitor connected to docking station just fine
[01:13] <saruji> sorry did not post my question correctly, although i do believe that if i get it solved in ubunt it will solve in mint
[01:14] <bazhang> saruji, but you are asking about MINT which you are using.
[01:14] <bazhang> !mint | saruji
[01:14] <intens3> thanks fdge and fictional; I'll have to see if I have another monitor to test - perhaps it's a hardware issue then, but I think it's more probable that it's some software issue as it used to work fine...
[01:15] <fictional> i would downgrade my kernel if i could get it to load lol
[01:15] <fdge> is the older kernal still on your system?
[01:15] <fictional> but i tried at the bootloaded and it wont work for some reason
[01:15] <saruji> bazhang: ok thanks
[01:16] <saruji> bazhang: will do
[01:16] <intens3> I would just have to load it from the bootloader?
[01:16] <intens3> it probably is still on the system
[01:16] <fictional> i think my older kernel wont load from the bootloaded because i have changed nvidia drivers
[01:17] <biagidp> I've got a few versions of ruby installed in /usr/bin. using the 'which ruby' command returns /usr/bin/ruby. I'd like to change it so 'which ruby' points at /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1. any help is appreciated!
[01:17] <fictional> and prolly get the no screens found issue lol
[01:17] <intens3> lol
[01:18] <fictional> intense you can try and load an older kernel from grubs bootloader
[01:18] <intens3> ok, I'll have to try that fictional
[01:18] <sgs2_usr> fdge: i would prefer you prefix with the nick when you want to send the msg to that person...
[01:19] <intens3> thanks again all, I might drop by later if I have anything useful to pass on my results
[01:19] <th0r> biagidp: the command 'which ruby' will search the path for the binary ruby. The short answer to your issue is the create a link from /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 called /usr/bin/ruby, but that assumes there is no ruby binary in /usr/bin to begin with
[01:20] <dinesh_> I am using zorin os 64 bit.. i am getting my laptop heat
[01:20] <dinesh_> please help somebody
[01:20] <biagidp> th0r: is that universal? in that when I type "bojangles" on the command line it looks for /usr/bin/bojangles?
[01:21] <th0r> biagidp: yes, it will search the path for an executable called bojangles. To see where it looks, and in what order, type 'echo $PATH' in a terminal
[01:22] <min|dvir|us> Hi. I set a value in /etc/environment. I see it as a non-root user but not as root.
[01:23] <min|dvir|us> Any thoughts?
[01:23] <dinesh_> hi my laptop is getting heat.. how to solve that.. i am using zorin os 64bit
[01:24] <raxial> dinesh:  clean out the laptop.....clean the heatsinks and any air flow ducts
[01:25] <rdewit_> hi, hoping to find a solution to my problem here: my top panel's theme is broken and I can't get it back to ambiance. Even setting the GTK theme with gnome-tweak-tool does not have any effect. Removing all /apps/panel settings doesn't seem to work either
[01:25] <bazhang> dinesh_, zorin os? how's that connected to ubuntu ?
[01:26]  * rdewit_ is using unity (and --reset doesn't do the job either)
[01:26] <dinesh_> bazhang : please help where to check about this
[01:26] <bazhang> dinesh_, try the zorin os support forums. this is ubuntu support
[01:26] <rdewit_> oops. o
[01:26] <rdewit_> i'm moving on to #ubuntu+1
[01:27] <min|dvir|us> I know someone knows.
[01:27] <min|dvir|us> I set a value in /etc/environment. I see it as a non-root user but not as root.
[01:27] <bazhang> min|dvir|us, what version of ubuntu
[01:27] <min|dvir|us> bazhang: +1. Does that matter?
[01:28] <jeffs_linux> fresh ubuntu installation on a new laptop shows battery status notifacation when it loses 1% power, so its showing a notifacation every few seconds, very annoying, anyone know how to reverse?
[01:28] <bazhang> min|dvir|us, 11.10?
[01:28] <min|dvir|us> bazhang: aye.
[01:28] <bazhang> min|dvir|us, #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 please
[01:28] <min|dvir|us> I'm already there and have already asked.
[01:28] <min|dvir|us> Maybe it's not an issue with the newer packages.
[01:28] <min|dvir|us> Do you have any thoughts?
[01:30] <sgs2_usr> jeffrash, try configure that setting in gconf-conf
[01:31] <sgs2_usr> jeffrash, sorry, it should be gconf-editor
[01:31] <sgs2_usr> apps->gnome-power-manager->buttons
[01:33] <jeffs_linux> got it! thank you!
[01:34] <sgs2_usr> jeffrash, no worries...we are here to help :D
[01:34] <dannn1> hi, i did: "add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3" and now ubuntu won't boot after doing a dist-upgrade. it pauses at: "Stopping system V runlevel compatibility OK". i can get a console via CTRL+ALT+F1, etc, but can't seem to fix it. what has gone wrong?
[01:35] <dannn1> on ubuntu 11.04
[01:36] <janzert> where or how should comment spam in launchpad be reported?
[01:36] <janzert> specifically the last 4 comments of https://bugs.launchpad.net/grub/+bug/403408
[01:37] <bikcmp> how can I remove the 'update manager' window?
[01:37] <bikcmp> it gets very annoying, considering my system /is/ up to date.
[01:40] <Polah> bikcmp: It shouldn't show up unless there's updates to install.
[01:43] <ward_> what are good text editors, besides gedit?
[01:43] <ward_> gedit doesnt open my file and acts retarded
[01:44] <ward_> gvim copies only a few lines of it, but no more then one screen
[01:44] <MNichie> ward_:what type of file is it?
[01:44] <ward_> MNichie, just a text file, i dunno whats so special about it
[01:44] <ward_> its a log from screen
[01:44] <ward_> and it cats fine
[01:44] <ward_> gvim also opens it fine
[01:47] <Slapshot> Hi I'm trying to access a Mac Journaled partition but ubuntu keeps spitting back that its read only. Ive tried chown root:root and chmod 777 over the drive and I still cant write to it. Any help?
[01:47] <MNichie> Never seen that before, I use vim, but it is a console editor so not sure that is what you are looking for.
[01:47] <Polah> Slapshot: Have you tried remounting it with defaults or rw as options?
[01:48] <Slapshot> Polah I mounted it with this sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb2 /media/mac/
[01:49] <MNichie> Slapshot: You need to turn off journaling, open up disk utilities and turn off journaling
[01:49] <Polah> Slapshot: sudo mount -t hfsplus -o defaults /dev/sdb2 /media/mac
[01:50] <ward_> MNichie, the prob was some really weird char, after i deleted it it saved fine
[01:51] <MNichie> Slapshot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[01:51] <Saruji> hello, could anyone tellme what the command is from command line to see what version of broadcom wireless card i have
[01:51] <cypha> what're npm and node?
[01:52] <MNichie> Saruji: lspci
[01:52] <Saruji> MNichie thank you
[01:52] <chroot> hi , i got a problem after install gnome3 in ubuntu 11.04! and i google it , nothing to do with it.
[01:52] <chroot> could anybody help me?
[01:53] <Slapshot> MNichie can I disable it in ubuntu? I cant disable from a mac and I couldnt find a disable option in disk utility
[01:53] <sgs2_usr> chroot, what exactly the problem you are seeing when you use gnome3?
[01:53] <bazhang> chroot, its unsupported
[01:53] <bazhang> !gnome3 | chroot
[01:53] <sgs2_usr> bazhang, ah, thanks for letting know :)
[01:54] <bazhang> chroot, no safe downgrade, best to back up and reinstall
[01:54] <sgs2_usr> !skype | sgs2_usr
[01:55] <chroot> oh, i can't open homefolder in ubuntu with gnome3 envronment
[01:55] <chroot> and also in utility environment
[01:55] <sgs2_usr> chrrot: i guess the channel admin explained clearly that it's not supported....so i can't help you there
[01:55] <chroot> what should i do with it
[01:56] <bazhang> chroot, I already told you. it's not supported; no safe downgrade---> backup and reinstall
[01:56] <bazhang> chroot, so please stop asking here for support
[01:57] <chroot> bazhang, you mean i  should remove the gnome3 and back to utility?
[01:57] <bazhang> chroot, no safe downgrade/unsupported means exactly that; back up and reinstall.
[01:58] <chroot> bazhang, you mean reinstall gnome3 ?
[01:59] <bjoswald83> Does anyone know how to fix a signal 11 segmentation fault error in KDE?
[01:59] <th0r> chroot: nope...reinstall ubuntu
[01:59] <chroot> wow, it seems that i made a wrong decision!
[02:00] <chroot> th0r, is it necessery to reinstall ubuntu , just a desktop environment , and the other function well .
[02:00] <sgs2_usr> chroot, yes and i suggest you to not use root account to do irc chatting as well..(looking at your nick, you seems to be a root user) :D
[02:02] <pr0tocoldan> ello, I'm trying to create a partition on an existing disk without having to format it. I used to do this with Partition Magic from Norton but it seems like they discontinued the product. Any ideas on how to accomplish this?
[02:02] <chroot> sgs2_usr, haha, it is not my root account , the first problem i want to ask in irc  is command "chroot", so i name me chroot!
[02:02] <bazhang> pr0tocoldan, what version of ubuntu
[02:02] <bjoswald83> pr0tocoldan: GParted
[02:02] <eVisetax> are there any good  Objective C  IDE's for Ubuntu?
[02:02] <eVisetax> Specifically 11.10
[02:03] <sgs2_usr> chroot, lol
[02:03] <chroot> and could you tell me how to install nautilus in ubuntu 11.04
[02:03] <pr0tocoldan> bazhang 10.0
[02:03] <pr0tocoldan> thank you bjoswald83
[02:03] <sgs2_usr> guys, i am trying to use the latest clonezilla for imaging my Ubuntu 11.04 on my HP EliteBook 8540w and i hit a problem, anyone faced this problem as well and has the solution?
[02:04] <chroot> sgs2_usr, what is clonezilla?
[02:05] <linuxuz3r> google it
[02:05] <Ibis> Clonezilla is a software used for cloning harddrives and partitions.
[02:05] <Ibis> Great mini backup utility.
[02:05] <sgs2_usr> chroot, there you go, Ibis said it
[02:05] <Ibis> It's free too...
[02:05] <linuxuz3r> chroot:http://clonezilla.org/
[02:06] <Ibis> Hopefully, there will be a GUI frontend for clonezilla.
[02:08] <linuxuz3r> chroot: clonezilla seems to clone your system
[02:08] <linuxuz3r> but i dont know if it is a dd clone or not
[02:09] <chroot> linuxuz3r, you explore the google
[02:09] <chroot> ?
[02:09] <Ibis> This also clones sector to sector.
[02:09] <Ibis> Theres a dd feature in there somewhere.
[02:09] <linuxuz3r> chroot: nope
[02:09] <linuxuz3r> chroot: do you use clonezilla
[02:09] <NotNotSure> grep does not allow forward lookahead is that right?
[02:10] <sgs2_usr> Ibis, you seem to be very familar with clonezilla, maybe you can help?
[02:10] <chroot> sgs2_usr, Ibis may not there
[02:11] <chroot> linuxuz3r, no , they said clonezilla , and i don't know what is it?
[02:12] <chroot> linuxuz3r, and i have desktop environment problem
[02:12] <DangerOnTheRangr> chroot:  It's basically a backup tool
[02:12] <merf> lot of people comming and going nothing said
[02:12] <qin> NotNotSure: Like this (?): ls -l ~ | grep Do > result_of_lsgrep; cat ~/res*
[02:12] <bazhang> chroot, you've been told that a reinstall is the only method for that
[02:12] <linuxuz3r> chroot what kind of problem
[02:13] <linuxuz3r> DangerOnTheRangr: hey
[02:13] <DangerOnTheRangr> linuxuz3r: Hello :)
[02:13] <linuxuz3r> DangerOnTheRangr: do you need to clone the whole parition to get the backup
[02:13] <linuxuz3r> for clonezilla
[02:13] <NotNotSure> qin you put 'Do' as a pattern
[02:13] <linuxuz3r> or does clone zilla only backups certain files
[02:14] <qin> NotNotSure: as example, yes.
[02:14] <DangerOnTheRangr> linuxuz3r: You can make clonezilla backup whatever you like
[02:14] <linuxuz3r> in os x there is carboncopy cloner which clones the files only on the partition
[02:14] <linuxuz3r> you dont have to clone the whole partition
[02:14] <chroot> bazhang, i think it is the last method to reinstall ubuntu , i want reinstall another desktop env , but i am not sure , have you met same problem , and you reinstall ubuntu?
[02:14] <zenker> id like to set up an account for my kids to share, but i need to lock out any changes (docky, icons, panels, and any thing else they might mess up, how do i do this?
[02:14] <NotNotSure> qin but 'Do' does not illustrate forward look ahead. You got my idea right: I want to filter ls -l output for some files which don't contain a certain word. Would you be able to give a pattern on that?
[02:14] <bazhang> chroot, gnome3 is not supported. please stop asking.
[02:15] <DangerOnTheRangr> linuxuz3r: You can make clonezilla do that too, I think
[02:15] <bazhang> chroot, reinstall after a backup.
[02:15] <chroot> bazhang, ok!
[02:15] <wcchandler> is there a best practice for remotely controlling the local screen?  I've got a server and a laptop and want to control my server's :1 from the laptop.  Is VNC really my only option?  What about GTK/rdp?  All the articles I can find are from 2007 or earlier
[02:16] <zenker> linuxuz3r, is it possible to make a copy of the system, burn to disk(s) and use it for a re-install? if so please tell me more?
[02:16] <sgs2_usr> wcchandler, i have similar problem faced by remote controlling ....i want to allow something similar to Windows RDP which will logs out another session when another session is logged in while preserving the same session
[02:16] <linuxuz3r> zenker i dont know
[02:17] <qin> NotNotSure: ls -l | grep -v Do
[02:17] <MNichie> wcchandler: freenx is another option, unless you are willing to spend money your options are somewhat limited
[02:17] <zenker> linuxuz3r, i have heard of some way to do it, but it seemed 2 complicated for me
[02:17] <linuxuz3r> oh
[02:17] <cypha> anyone familiar with node?
[02:17] <chroot> is it 13/10 that 11.10 will release
[02:17] <NotNotSure> qin thanks
[02:18] <chroot> what node
[02:18] <zenker> linuxuz3r, that would be soooo usefull, ive re-installed about 10 times since 11.04
[02:18] <zenker> id like to set up an account for my kids to share, but i need to lock out any changes (docky, icons, panels, and any thing else they might mess up, how do i do this?
[02:19] <MNichie> zenke:, get a usb drive and put clonezilla live on it, take a image after you set it up, then restore the image if your computer ever gets messed up
[02:20] <th0r> wcchandler: both NX and x-forwarding via ssh will probably be more responsive options
[02:20] <Entelin> is it possible to upgrade from LTS to 11.04 ?
[02:20] <Entelin> or would you guys recommend a fresh install?
[02:20] <chroot> yes
[02:20] <bazhang> Entelin, yes, with the intermediary of 10.10
[02:20] <Entelin> ok
[02:20] <bjoswald83> Entelin: It's possible but a clean install is always best in my opinion
[02:20] <pmp6nl> Entelin: I would recommend waiting for 11.10
[02:20] <zenker> Entelin, id go with a freash install
[02:21] <bjoswald83> But wait for 11.10
[02:21] <chroot> pmp6nl, waiting 11.10 , how long?
[02:21] <DILL> damn there is alot of people in here
[02:21] <Entelin> why wait for 11.10?
[02:21] <chroot> 11.10 will be perfect
[02:21] <zenker> Entelin, thers a lot of stuff gonna be fixed then
[02:21] <pksadiq> !11.10
[02:21] <DILL> can you use old gnome yet
[02:22] <qin> zenker: Doubtfull approach, but changing permissions of some dot files may help you to limit your offspring creativity.
[02:22] <DILL> i dont like change
[02:22] <bjoswald83> No
[02:22] <bjoswald83> GNOME 2 is dead
[02:22] <bjoswald83> Either deal with Unity or use Xfce
[02:22] <DarkForest> ComradeHaz, /etc/crontab
[02:23] <zenker> qin, in windows i was able to make a internet page with links to all the games, then put that page in startup, hid the taskbar and it worked pretty well, i think i should just do that again
[02:23] <bazhang> bjoswald83, there is classic in 11.04
[02:23] <bjoswald83> Yes, but 11.04 is almost done
[02:23] <Entelin> ah ok,  well I probably will just wait and do a fresh install then,  my current system works just fine.  I had to go to a 3rd party for a new version of gimp, and manually install blender, but other than that i'm fine
[02:23] <bazhang> DILL, select classic if you are using 11.04
[02:23] <bjoswald83> There will be no fallback to GNOME 2 in the next release
[02:23] <DILL> what happens when 10.04 looses suport
[02:23] <Entelin> I just use openbox, I cant stand "full" desktop environments
[02:23] <bazhang> bjoswald83, no, it's not
[02:23] <bjoswald83> When does support for 11.04 end?
[02:23] <john> hi i was just wondering if someone could help me with a few concerns with 11.04
[02:24] <bazhang> bjoswald83, 18 months from its release
[02:24] <zenker> Entelin, you dont have to manually install blender, it will run str-8 out of the box, however there are some advantages to compiling your own from the latest build that contains stuff you need/use
[02:24] <bjoswald83> Ah, I see
[02:24] <bjoswald83> My apologies
[02:24] <DILL> no 10.04 lts in 2013
[02:24] <DILL> im not conforming
[02:24] <Entelin> zenker, thats what I meant, I just downloaded it, extracted and ran from my home dir.  "install" was probably not the best word to use :)
[02:25] <graingert> can anyone re-size their windows using the shadows of their window? (in 11.04)
[02:25] <john> is anyone else experiencing crazy battery usage on their laptop with 11.04?
[02:25] <bjoswald83> john: It's a kernel bug
[02:25] <zenker> Entelin, oh hehee
[02:25] <pmp6nl> chroot: 11.10 will be out this week
[02:25] <graingert> john: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2638_aspm&num=1
[02:26] <chroot> pmp6nl, and what desktop env it will use , is it still utility?
[02:26] <MNichie> DILL:take it up with the Gnome devs they are the ones pushing this thing.  Personally I think someone should just fork Gnome2 and continue development on it.
[02:26] <Tech-1> after updates firefox started doing this: http://imagebin.org/178112 : how to fix ?
[02:26] <bazhang> chroot, unity you mean, and gnome-shell if you choose
[02:27] <sgs2_usr> okay guys, anyone got luck using skype on Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit? i got the problem of it's keeps crashing everytime i launch it
[02:27] <zenker> gettin a new lappie soon, its gonna be the alienware 17 in is there any issues i should know about concerning the video drivers , if so which vid should i choose?
[02:27] <pmp6nl> bazhang is exactly right
[02:27] <pmp6nl> chroot
[02:27] <DILL> no i dont care if they push it i just want to be able to use gnome 2
[02:27] <Ibis> 11.10 is coming out this week? O_O
[02:27] <graingert> sgs2_usr: this will probably be fixed in a week
[02:27] <pc-get> what this
[02:27] <graingert> sgs2_usr: with multi-arch support on 11.10
[02:27] <DILL> is linux not about choice
[02:27] <bjoswald83> zenker: The Restricted Driver installer should pop-up and let you choose I think
[02:28] <Ibis> DILL: What's wrong with gnome3?
[02:28] <sgs2_usr> sgs2_usr, you mean i will need to install 11.10 to get skype to work?
[02:28] <bazhang> DILL, thats not a support question. use classic if in 11.04
[02:28] <zenker> i hope so bjoswald83 i will cry if i cant get my ubuntu back
[02:28] <DILL> its not gnome 2
[02:28] <chroot> pmp6nl, what?
[02:28] <SIFTU> DILL: you have the choice to move to a distro which still has gnome 2
[02:28] <Ibis> Ubuntu classic is gnome 2.
[02:28] <bazhang> DILL, not like gnome3 is hardly a support issue
[02:28] <zenker> in fact, i probably wont even keep windows on the hd ;)
[02:28] <john> is there currently any work around with the crazy battery usage on 11.04?
[02:28] <Ibis> DILL: Why not just apt-get gnome 2? o_O
[02:28] <graingert> DILL: gnome3 does not need gnome-shell
[02:28] <NotNotSure> what is the most powerful text editor in ubuntu which supports extended regular expressions ?
[02:29] <graingert> DILL: gnome3 with gnome-panel etc is still available
[02:29] <MNichie> Well they are the ones that are stopping development on it not much sense in supporting a package that has been EOL.  Nothing is stopping you from installing it manually either.
[02:29] <zenker> john havent heard of a battery issue, whats it doing?
[02:29] <graingert> DILL: you probably are not into gnome-shell
[02:29] <Ibis> NotNotSure: Did you try gedit?
[02:29] <dkelelos> NotNotSure: geany
[02:29] <DILL> i was under the impression that the old package would not work
[02:29] <john> zenker basically wahts happening is my battery is dying so fast
[02:29] <john> like incredibly fast
[02:29] <chroot> DILL, what is your problem
[02:29] <bjoswald83> john: Like I said, it's a kernel bug
[02:29] <john> is there no work around?
[02:30] <dkelelos> bjoswald83: why not use 3.0.4
[02:30] <bjoswald83> You will have to get a different kernel or wait for an upgrade
[02:30] <pmp6nl> chroot I was saying bazhang was right about unity, etc
[02:30] <MNichie> DILL: I'm sure it would take some wrangling, but anything is possible
[02:30] <DILL> im insane
[02:30] <bazhang> DILL, wrong place for that
[02:30] <DILL> for what
[02:30] <zenker> john, it may be the battery, as they die they hold less and less charge, sometimes the power manager will pick this up and display a popup (not sure if its from gnome, i use glx-dock
[02:30] <bazhang> DILL, for random chat
[02:31] <DILL> we are talking about ubuntu
[02:31] <bazhang> DILL, this is support ONLY. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:31] <john> i wouldnt mind swapping the kernal
[02:31] <DILL> oops
[02:31] <john> if i knew how to do that
[02:31] <zenker> john, another battery killer is overheating, if its running hot and the fan is always on.... try getting a can of air and blowing everything real good
[02:31] <chroot> DILL , if you have gnome3 problem in ubuntu 11.04 , maybe , join #gnome will help
[02:31] <john> the fan issue is fine, everything is real good
[02:31] <john> but
[02:32] <john> i just notticed like the battery would die like, 1% atleast every 49 seconds
[02:32] <zenker> john also use a cool pad that can connect to a diff power supply, i use a biliken usb hub, but then again i dont take my lappie to very many places
[02:32] <dkelelos> john: u need energy savving modules
[02:32] <bjoswald83> john: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15013&Itemid=99999999
[02:33] <dkelelos> john: modprobe acpi-cpufreq
[02:33] <zenker> john last bit of advice, i do believe theres a way to check the battery, its a program but its been a looong time since ive used it
[02:33] <graingert> john: Try powertop
[02:33] <dkelelos> modprobe cpufreq_ondemand
[02:33] <graingert> john: look at the battery indicator
[02:33] <graingert> to see details about the battery
[02:34] <graingert> look at the design capacity
[02:34] <graingert> and the current capacity
[02:34] <dkelelos>  graingert: thats what he said already
[02:34] <john> ive changed it to on demand
[02:35] <zenker> john, is the battery less than a year old? if so it may be covered via warranty
[02:35] <john> im not really sure if its the actual battery
[02:36] <john> i have windows on a different partition
[02:36] <john> it lasts a fair amount, like 3 hours
[02:36] <diki> So. I am a solid windows users, however i will admit that compiling on windows is a nightmare, my question would be if it is possible to compile on ubuntu(linux) FOR windows?
[02:36] <diki> *user
[02:36] <dkelelos> john: what processor u have ? u need to modprobe the right module
[02:37] <john> i have core i5
[02:37] <dkelelos> diki: yes u can
[02:37] <graingert> diki: yeah but it's annoying to do
[02:37] <zenker> john dont think anything will suck your battery down but you can check the system monitor to see if anything is runnin wild
[02:37] <SIFTU> john: hybrid graphics? optimus?
[02:37] <john> i ahve two graphics yeah
[02:38] <john> the integrated intel and the ati 5650
[02:38] <SIFTU> john: yep, well that would suck down power too
[02:38] <SIFTU> john: you need to shut down the ati
[02:38] <dkelelos> john: modprobe acpi-cpufreqrn
[02:38] <john> not 100% sure if this has to do with anything but i've blacklisted the intel_ips because it was causing problems with startup
[02:39] <dkelelos>  john: modprobe cpufreq_ondemand  rnecho ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governorrnecho ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[02:39] <john> it was a suggested workaround and it worked
[02:40] <sgs2_usr> anyone knows when skype will be out of beta for linux?
[02:41] <john> is there away to shut down the ati ?
[02:41] <john> and how do i knwo which one is running?
[02:41] <SIFTU> john: i hjave the intel/nvidia combo and can shut it down with a kernel module call acpi_call
[02:42] <SIFTU> john: doubles battery life at least
[02:42] <red22> tried installing 11.04 on an old laptop but now the screen flashes the windows for a fraction of a second every 3 to 5 seconds and keeps looping like that.. I've read unity is to blame, but I tried booting in failsafe but the screen is unreadable also even in the text mode.. How can I fix this (maybe turn off unity or not sure what needs to be done..)?
[02:42] <dkelelos> john: dmesg gives infos
[02:43] <red22> booting from the cd, the 11.04 graphical installer looked just fine, and older versions of ubuntu ran fine too. I dual boot windows xp fine too.
[02:43] <SIFTU> john: http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/
[02:44] <SIFTU> john: you probably want vga_switcheroo
[02:44] <john> thank you so much
[02:44] <graingert> red22: try the alternate installer
[02:45] <diki> graingert:annoying?
[02:45] <diki> i really hope its not about dependencies
[02:45] <diki> there are just too much not available for windows
[02:45] <diki> so i thought under linux i have everything i nee
[02:45] <diki> d
[02:45] <chroot> bazhang, the problem i met is done
[02:46] <graingert> diki: what are you compiling?
[02:46] <graingert> diki: C++/QT is generally nice for multi-platform stuff
[02:46] <graingert> if you don't want java
[02:46] <diki> well...there are a few that are exactly c++ and qt
[02:47] <diki> qt-gui i mean
[02:47] <red22> graingert: the graphical installer runs fine though.. the graphics problems are after installation and booting up the actual ubuntu os... Still think the alternate installer could help?
[02:47] <dkelelos> 44
[02:47] <graingert> red22: nope
[02:47] <diki> graingert:but mostly C applications
[02:49] <BlueProtoman> Can anyone help me with this?  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=83065&p=481488#p481488  No one in #linuxmint-help has been able to help me.
[02:49] <bazhang> BlueProtoman, mint?
[02:50] <BlueProtoman> It's close enough, and I'm desperate, and I've had this issue trying Ubuntu.
[02:50] <BlueProtoman> I'm in like, 8 channels looking for an answer.
[02:50] <bazhang> BlueProtoman, mint is not supported here
[02:51] <BlueProtoman> Sue me.
[02:51] <Brad87> lol
[02:51] <red22> graingert: any suggestions on what could be the problem or how to fix this?  Why is my video flashing like this and why is even the failsafe text unreadable? looks like squares and odd symbols.. Any ideas?
[02:51] <bazhang> BlueProtoman, please dont ask here
[02:51] <bazhang> !mintsupport | BlueProtoman
[02:51] <pocoyo> bazhang: which is supported here?
[02:51] <chroot> BlueProtoman, what is that problem
[02:51] <graingert> red22: very odd - recovery terminal does this also?
[02:51] <bazhang> pocoyo, official derivatives only
[02:51] <Brad87> what is linux mint?
[02:52] <qwaz> Brad87, a different distro
[02:52] <Brad87> where can i get it? it sounds delicious
[02:52] <bazhang> Brad87, something which is offtopic here. check distrowatch
[02:52] <red22> graingert: the recovery terminal doesn't flash on and off like the regular gui, the characters are fixed, but they are unreadable.. like globs of fat text, squares, and symbols
[02:53] <graingert> red22: hokay
[02:53] <graingert> red22: that's beyond my ken
[02:53] <BlueProtoman> chroot: What do you mean?
[02:53] <red22> graingert: ok thanks for trying
[02:54] <coco> fffff
[02:54] <MNichie> red22:what video card do you have?
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[02:55] <pocoyo> ...
[02:55] <Brad87> what i really want to know is if there are any clean looking interfaces (shells?), i tried gnome 3 but it has that shitty low budget look just like unity, so far the best i have found is the ubuntu classic that ships with natty
[02:56] <Brad87> you know what i mean? Im a usual windows user,
[02:56] <chroot> your problems, what exactly is it?
[02:56] <sgs2_usr> anyone can help on bluetooth-applet?
[02:56] <MNichie> Have you tried lxde, ie lubuntu
[02:56] <red22> MNichie: the machine is an old laptop.. toshiba satellite.. has an nvidia geforce fx sticker on front, but would have to check more specifically if you need the actual model.. this enough info?
[02:57] <john> hii , im trying to change my graphics to turn off through switcheroo
[02:57] <john>     echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[02:57] <john> that code doesn't work though
[02:57] <Brad87> i will have to check that out, i was really turned off in the past by anything KDE, it just looks so thrown together
[02:57] <MNichie> lxde is not kde...
[02:57] <john> it keeps saying permison denied
[02:57] <Brad87> i know
[02:57] <Brad87> im just saying
[02:59] <john> has anyone else experienced this ?
[02:59] <Atharva> john : try using sudo before command
[02:59] <MNichie> Well unity has gotten a lot more polished in 11.10, but if the concept of it is throwing you then it won't be much use.
[02:59] <john> i have, and it still says permison denied
[02:59] <Brad87> i just looked at lxde, it doesnt have a very polished look either
[03:00] <chroot> MNichie, is 11.10 still use utility desktop env
[03:00] <chroot> ?
[03:00] <MNichie> Yes
[03:00] <bazhang> Brad87, lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic if you dont have any support issues
[03:00] <Brad87> ok
[03:00] <ciss> hi, how can i check if a kernel has been compiled with support for control groups?
[03:00] <bazhang> chroot, its unity, not utility
[03:00] <MNichie> john: sudo sh -c 'echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch'
[03:00] <bazhang> chroot, and its discussed in #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <bazhang> chroot, /join #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <bmarq> Hey just a simple question.  I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop.  I'm now dual-booting windows 7 and ubuntu.  My laptop has a dual hard-drives.  Windows 7 is on the C drive and Ubuntu is on the D drive (because I have separate HDs I didnt have to do any partitioning).  Is it normal that when I now put up win7 that I can't see my D drive at all?
[03:01] <john> MNichie: okay that code went through
[03:01] <chroot> ok
 :Yes...
[03:02] <vaev> bmarq: yes. windows doesn't recognize other than fat or ntfs partitions, is why
[03:02] <Atharva> bmarq : Because Windows cannot read ext4 filesystemm
[03:02] <peruchan> mai gaoh
[03:02] <mokilok> Guys, I am having trouble getting Flash to work. I have downloaded and installed it through the Ubuntu software center but still doesn't seem to work for youtube clips?
[03:03] <bmarq> K thanks.  That's what I thought. But I still have access to the the Win7 HD when I'm using Ubuntu?
[03:03] <peruchan> try html5 (?)
[03:03] <mokilok> I've also tried downloading the YUM and RPM from Adobe.com but I can't install them, the executables only bring up a terminal for one second then close.
 : Ofcourse ....
[03:03] <peruchan> http://www.youtube.com/html5
[03:04] <john> is there a way to check which graphics card is currently on?
[03:04] <mokilok> John: for more info on using switcheroo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[03:04] <bmarq> Thanks, Atharva
[03:05] <adammw111> Hi. I seem to have screwed up my file associations and now any executable or "shared library" tries to be opened by a Wine program. How can I get nautilus to execute it again?
[03:05] <htrmeira> #ufcg
 :you're welcum :)
[03:05] <john> mokilok: thankyou
[03:06] <peruchan> delete .desktop from ~/.local/share/applications/ ...
[03:07] <peruchan> wine is evil
[03:08] <adammw111> peruchan, is there a way to tell which one?
[03:09] <peruchan> let me see
[03:09] <guanhua> a
[03:09]  * peruchan hax adammw111
[03:09] <peruchan> search the wine-extension-*.desktop
[03:09] <pcypher> any recommendations on the best vpn provider (ie. BTguard, ItsHidden, etc.)
[03:12] <Atharva> Hi..how can I setup a mobile broadband connection in cli ?
[03:13] <AlaskaDrew> Ahoy
[03:13] <adammw111> thanks..
[03:13] <AlaskaDrew> I am a brand spanking new Ubuntu user, and having troubles getting my wireless to start, anyone care to offer assistance?
[03:14] <qwaz> Anyone run there own home email server? Please recommend me a good one to use. I was thinking postfix. Simplicity is was i'm looking for.
[03:14] <AlaskaDrew> I think that I read that if I updated to Kernel 3.x it would support my card, but Im not sure
[03:15] <pcypher> AlaskaDrew: which distro are you using? Most likely answer is going to start with installing additional drivers
[03:15] <SIFTU> qwaz: postfix is a good mta, but there are lots of things to consider running a "home" email server. i.e. are you on a dynamic IP?
[03:16] <scalability-junk> hey I'm trying to use automatic memory allocatin with ubunutu 11.04 and kvm, but can't find any docs, can anyone help please
[03:17] <qwaz> SIFTU, yeah I am. I already have a dyndns.org name pointing at me though. Yeah I understand there is a lot of security invloved too.  What pieces of software would I need along with Postfix
[03:18] <SIFTU> qwaz: well my point was you will find it very hard to get around spam filters on a dynamic IP
[03:18] <AlaskaDrew> I am using natty
[03:18] <AlaskaDrew> I think 11.04?
[03:19] <qwaz> SIFTU, I dont understand. Spam filters set up by who?
[03:19] <AlaskaDrew> I just figured out how to check my kernel, and when I trued to update to 3.0 it didn't take
[03:19] <SIFTU> qwaz: who ever you are delivering email to
[03:20] <AlaskaDrew> It looks like the image (third .deb I tried to install) didn't take, so I am going to try installing that over and seeing if it will restart on the new kernel
[03:21] <pcypher> AlaskaDrew: after install you will need to install additional drivers most likely to get it working... also knowing which chipset you are on can be useful.
[03:21]  * scalability-junk is really getting frustrated... automatic memory allocation (virtio_ballooning) doesn't seem to have any docs at all :(
[03:22] <AlaskaDrew> how do I find my chipset?
[03:23] <qwaz> SIFTU, So why would be having a dynamic IP address prevent people from seeing the emails i send them from my server on say there gmail accounts?
[03:23] <merlot> hello whats ubuntu room for developers?
[03:23] <qwaz> me*
[03:24] <bazhang> merlot, #ubuntu-devel ; it's not a support channel though
[03:24] <adammw111> found my problem. A wine app I installed associated with .so files, which in linux are shared library files and as nautilus works with mime types, every executable then was associated with that. Fixed now, thanks peruchan.
[03:24] <SIFTU> qwaz: becuase gmail will pass it through their spam filter and it will come back with a PTR record that doesnt match, SPF records which are incorrect and you wont be able to build a reputation becuase your IP will always change
[03:25] <alazare619> mslinux.org
[03:25] <alazare619> i rofled
[03:25] <bazhang> !ot | alazare619
[03:25] <arp> heh
[03:27] <athul> Does anyone know any program which converts speech to text?
[03:27] <pcypher> alaskadrew: sudo apt-get install wireless-tools
[03:27] <AlaskaDrew> I'll try it
[03:27] <pcypher> alaskadrew: lspci | grep Network
[03:27] <AlaskaDrew> thanks
[03:27] <dskw> hi all. when selecting multiple files within nautilus, and checking the properties, i'd like to see the total size in 2 decimal points (for example, 3.59 GB). is there any setting for this?
[03:28] <gr33n7007h> wait
[03:28] <gr33n7007h> wait
[03:28] <athul> Does anyone know any program which converts speech to text?
[03:29] <adammw111> How can I make .desktop shortcuts?
[03:29] <qwaz> SIFTU, ah I see. Oh well it's ok if my emails go into peoples spam folders. I'm just doing this for fun. So once I install and configure postfix what other apps will I need? I heard I need something that handles incoming mail, secrurity and an app for webmail.
[03:29] <AlaskaDrew> It saysit cannot lock the administrator directory would that be because I am trying to install the new kernel
[03:29] <Atharva> !wait | athul
[03:30] <merlot> bazhang: I take it there is no ubuntu developer channel for support
[03:31] <SIFTU> qwaz: http://rimuhosting.com/support/settingupemail.jsp?mta=postfix
[03:31] <juancarlospaco> __人____人___
[03:31] <juancarlospaco> ≡ ◕ ‿‿ ◕ ≡ ....( Hello )
[03:31] <bazhang> merlot, better to get on the mailing lists
[03:31] <bazhang> !lists | merlot
[03:31] <bazhang> juancarlospaco, dont do that
[03:33] <SIFTU> qwaz: it will be a learning exercise but dont expect it to deliver email to well
[03:33] <TimFreeman> I'm running Lucid.  I just did an apt-get upgrade and flash no longer works under Firefox.  Is this well known?  My previous upgrade was 2-3 weeks ago.  It's an amd64 machine.
[03:34] <chipmonk> is there a help channel for setting up VLC Streaming?
[03:34] <qwaz> SIFTU, hah yeah it will. Allright thanks for the help bud.
[03:35] <Atharva> Hii... can I send emails on LAN ?
[03:35] <mokilok> TimFreeman: I just had an issue where installing flash from apt-get wasn't working. Even the non free plugins were not working, I had to go to ./mozilla/ and mkdir plugins then drop the contents of the downloadable tar.gz from adobe.com into that folder. Upon firefox reboot flash worked perfectly
[03:37] <TimFreeman> mokilok: Thanks, I'll try that if I can't find a way to cooperate with apt-get.  Just now it occured to me to include "Lucid" in my search query, found some helpful web pages, will read them next.
[03:38] <{-_-}> is there any way for me to find out if i have a microphone on my computer?
[03:38] <tonysan_> how do I reload my /etc/interfaces
[03:39] <bazhang> {-_-}, check the user's manual?
[03:39]  * chipmonk want to know is there a help channel for setting up VLC Streaming?
[03:40] <tonysan_> How do I restart my network interfaces?
[03:40] <qwaz> tonysan_ what did you want to do like bring them down and backup, refresh them?
[03:40] <tonysan_> qwaz: exactly
[03:41] <AlaskaDrew> pcypher, thanks for the help, I am going to try restarting, I'll be back later if this didn't work.
[03:41] <qwaz> tonysan_ ifconfig eth0 down  and   ifconfig eth0 up
[03:41] <qwaz> tonysan_ or ifdown eth0   and ifup eth0
[03:42] <qwaz> tonysan_ I remember once I edited the /etc/network/interfaces file to setup a static ip on one I had to use the ifdown and ifup commands
[03:42] <Lithos84> chipmonk: There is: #vlc
[03:42] <TimFreeman> Aha.  No flash because /home/tim/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so is a 32 bit binary and /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.23/firefox-bin is a 64 bit executable.
[03:46] <MXIIA> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/850850
[03:47] <MXIIA> any progress on this?
[03:47] <KM0201> what's the command to reconfigure the xserver... i bricked my nvidia driver, and im stuck in a console
[03:49] <SIFTU> KM0201: remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot, then fix your driver etc
[03:53] <Dalek`> anyone know if there is  PDO viewer for Ubuntu?
[03:54] <Shirakawasuna> what's a pdo?
[03:54] <Dalek`> pepakura file
[03:54] <Dalek`> paper folding
[03:54] <flam3s> ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 was disable.... what that??
[03:55] <flam3s> cannot Play mp3 in kubuntu 10.04 KDE
[03:55] <flam3s> help please
[03:56] <SIFTU> Dalek`: I dont think so
[03:56] <Dalek`> hadn't futzed with wine yet
[03:56] <andri_> siang...
[03:56] <Deihmos> can't ubuntu extend desktops?
[03:57] <Deihmos> it did it in the live cd but I see no way to do it with it installed
[03:57] <flam3s> siang juga
[03:57] <andri_> ada yang tau ga cara ym an di linux???
[03:57] <flam3s> pakek linux apa
[03:58] <bazhang> http://forum.soaringhammer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=34 Dalek`
[03:58] <flam3s> sudo apt-get install pidgin   <<<---buat ym an di linux
[03:58] <Dalek`> saw that bazhang thanks
[03:58] <Dalek`> have not used wine yet though
[03:58] <bazhang> flam3s, english here please
[03:59] <flam3s> my kubuntu 10.04 cannot play mp3 help please
[03:59] <bazhang> flam3s, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:59] <flam3s> ensoniq audioPCI ENS1371 disable
[04:00] <flam3s> yes i have ready install gstreamer
[04:00] <bazhang> flam3s, did you install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[04:01] <flam3s> wait i install now..... thanks bazhang
[04:05] <JZApples> Running Ubuntu 11.04, when I do a Unity search the files and folders all have the same icons.  Is there a way to correct this???????
[04:05] <flam3s> wow now work thanks bazhang ;)
[04:06] <Deihmos> how do you do extended monitor with two displays
[04:06] <mokilok> Deihmos: Open your monitor / resolution settings and uncheck "mirror image across all monitors"
[04:06] <Deihmos> that option is not present
[04:07] <Deihmos> I have an nvidea 9800 card
[04:08] <dskw> i usually boot with my 2nd monitor attached and switched on. is it the same for you?
[04:08] <Deihmos> both are on
[04:09] <Shirakawasuna> use nvidia-settings, Deihmos
[04:09] <Deihmos> in nvidia settings all I see is twin view
[04:10] <Shirakawasuna> twinview extends the monitor...
[04:10] <Shirakawasuna> it basically gives you another desktop to work with
[04:11] <Deihmos> twin view is not extended
[04:13] <thevinci> #ubuntu-server
[04:13] <dskw> not sure if this helps, but.. http://unliterate.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/fixing-external-monitor-resolutionmode-in-ubuntu/
[04:16] <Shirakawasuna> you do want twinview, Deihmos ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:16] <thevinci> I've set up transmission-cli and transmission-daemon, and I've just accessed the web interface, i went to download a torrent, and it gave me an error, saying permissino denied.
[04:17] <thevinci> Is this because transmission doesn't have write permissions in the folder i created for downloads?
[04:17] <fullmetal> @vinci most likely
[04:17] <fullmetal> to test just gran 777 permissions and check...
[04:22] <dskw> when selecting multiple files within nautilus, and checking the properties, i'd like to see the total size in 2 decimal points (for example, 3.59 GB). is there any setting for this?
[04:26] <Haematoma> Has anyone ever had caffeine make them sleepy?
[04:26] <Deihmos> when I use twinmode the monitor resolution doubles and apps stretch between displays
[04:26] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[04:27] <ShapeShifter499>  is there something I can install on my ubuntu that turns my dialup modem into a voice modem?  (so I can use a landline phone with a voip service) or is that possible?
[04:27] <Haematoma> ShapeShifter499, I would also like to know this too!
[04:28] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[04:28] <fullmetal> @shapeShifter you might look into Asterisk... not sure though...
[04:29] <ShapeShifter499> I have a vonage router I got for 2 bucks, thought I might be able to find a way to unlock it for other voip services but no luck (unless I missed something)
[04:29] <Fudge> hi im trying to find an app or somethign to configure that will allow me to see some messages on tty1 such as when someone ssh's in and thhings like that
[04:30] <ShapeShifter499> fullmetal, what is it exactly?
[04:30] <fullmetal> asterisk is ment to be a call server. like a PBX.
[04:31] <theadmin> lol, fullmetal? Another FMA fan? :D
[04:31] <fullmetal> you might be able to use it with your modem hardware but im not sure as i h
[04:31] <somebody> ?DCC SEND "0000000000000000000000" 0 0 0
[04:31] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[04:31] <fullmetal> @theadmin sure am... but i like to "transmute" with code...
[04:33] <fullmetal> @shapeShifter.. it was used in a blackhat confrence to reverse CID entire area codes... cellphones included...
[04:33] <fullmetal> so i know it can handle voice data lines.
[04:33] <magicjoe97236> anyone know where I can get help streaming media from ubuntu to Xbox 360?
[04:34] <vigil> make error: "‘printf’ was not declared in this scope" something need to be #included...?
[04:34] <fullmetal> @magicjoe tried this one too. seems  it only likes windows SMB shares...
[04:34] <fullmetal> please post if you find an answer
[04:34] <theadmin> vigil: stdio.h?
[04:35] <magicjoe97236> mediatomb shares to ps3 just fine if you start it as root, or sudo
[04:35] <magicjoe97236> ushare is supposed to work with xbox 360, but xbox gives me a firewall error.  UFW is disabled!
[04:36] <Fudge> how can i supress so many dmesg events in the log pulseaudio[2036]: ratelimit.c: 1220 events suppressed
[04:37] <fullmetal> @magicjoe.. ill look into this one... thanks for the tip
[04:38] <theadmin> fullmetal: Mind replying to my PM?
[04:38] <fullmetal> sorry using irssi
[04:38] <fullmetal> did not see it
[04:40] <vigil> theadmin: That worked, thanks. Not sure why they left that out. Some kind of Windows C++ dialect that has printf builtin or something...
[04:40] <theadmin> vigil: Probably just auto-#include's
[04:41] <theadmin> vigil: Also, with C++ you typically use cout instead of printf
[04:44] <ryanclancy000> How do I block an ip from connecting to me on Ubuntu 10.10?
[04:44] <Haematoma> iptables?
[04:44] <DrGamut> is it me, i promise ill stop connecting to you
[04:44] <DrGamut> i just thought we had so much in common
[04:45] <ryanclancy000> lol
[04:45] <Sniper-ST> o.o
[04:45] <Haematoma> ryanclancy000, http://www.netfilter.org/projects/iptables/index.html
[04:46] <ryanclancy000> So this should work: sudo iptables -A ip.goes.here -j DROP
[04:46] <Haematoma> I have no idea how the program works, but as I understand it should be able to do what you want.
[04:46] <Sniper-ST> quit
[04:47] <Ibis> Wy not just use UFW?
[04:47] <Ibis> Theres a GUI to that.
[04:48] <Haematoma> Maybe he wants to block stuff using a BASH script?
[04:48] <Ibis> <--- caters to newbies first.
[04:49] <Haematoma> I dunno, he asked and I recommended what first came to mind.
[04:49] <ryanclancy000> I wanted to stop someone from connecting to a game server, over ssh iptables would be easier
[04:49] <Haematoma> but yeah UFW, way more user friendly
[04:50] <Haematoma> from connecting to the server hardware itself, or the game server?
[04:50] <jenky2011> can someone please tell me how to setup the sasl stuff so I can use xchat in ubuntu...I'm new to the system and can't make it through the setup
[04:50] <ryanclancy000> From the hardware itself, very easy to block them from the game server
[04:50] <Haematoma> kk
[04:50] <pezghaar>  /quit
[04:51] <Haematoma> yeah iptables would be good
[04:51] <Haematoma> just don't accidentally blacklist yourself lol
[04:51] <ryanclancy000> lol
[04:51] <almoxarife> jenky2011: does x-chat support ssl?
[04:51] <ryanclancy000> I believe they are blocked now, they just kept coming on with alts :P
[04:52] <jeangray> hi, regarding the crazy amount of power regression in 11.04, has anyone seem to how found a fix? and does anyone know if 11.10 is better for this issue?
[04:52] <vaev> ryanclancy000: you did it with the command you described?
[04:52] <Haematoma> almoxarife, do you have google?
[04:53] <ryanclancy000> vaev: yes
[04:53] <jenky2011> I don't really know....when I try to connect to the servers it says I need sasl permission... I googled it and tried to walk through the steps but didn't seem to work
[04:53] <vaev> cos the -A specifies the type of the rule, not the target
[04:53] <almoxarife> Haematoma: not google, ssl
[04:54] <vaev> I'd go with iptables -A INPUT -s ip.address.here -j DROP
[04:54] <ryanclancy000> ahh, ty
[04:54] <vaev> as the simplest solution
[04:54] <ryanclancy000> I guess they weren't blocked :P
[04:54] <jeangray> has anyone else seem to have experienced the power regression in 11.04
[04:54] <ryanclancy000> How would I remove the input I have in there now?
[04:55] <vaev> it probably didn't even register
[04:55] <Haematoma> yeah
[04:55] <Haematoma> you have to issue a save command
[04:55] <Haematoma> for your rules to be persistent
[04:55] <Haematoma> ryanclancy000, http://www.routermods.com/2008/12/22/basic-iptables-commands/
[04:55] <jenky2011> It says I need to identify with sasl
[04:56] <vaev> well I mean since the -A rule type was not valid it shouldn't have registered in the first place
[04:56] <Haematoma> hmm, I stand corrected
[04:56] <vaev> but there's an option that I don't remember... --list-rules perhaps that gives the table
[04:56] <jeangray> if anyone has experienced the same problem, please let me know, my battery is dying insanely fast on 11.04
[04:57] <chipmonk> has anyone used vlc streaming?
[04:57] <vaev> ryanclancy000: iptables --help and check out that option I tried to describe above and you can check if the rule went in
[04:57] <vaev> if it did you can reverse it by replacing -A with -D
[04:58] <Gnea> !anyone | chipmonk
[04:58] <PsychoX75> How come only 1 of my computers isn't able to access 1 specific SMB share on my Ubuntu machine? All the other devices in my house can access everything. But this computer keeps getting "No Access to Drivename". But he's able to access another drive on the same Ubuntu machine without any problems.
[04:58] <Haematoma> don't forget man pages!
[04:59] <Gnea> PsychoX75: did you make sure all of the permissions line up correctly?
[05:00] <PsychoX75> Gnea: that's the thing. Permissions on Ubuntu? Cuz it allows my other windows laptop to access this drive without problems. But for this laptop it doesn't.
[05:00] <PsychoX75> Can permissions exclude 1 PC?
[05:00] <Gnea> PsychoX75: see who owns the one directory and who owns the others
[05:01] <PsychoX75> kk
[05:01] <PsychoX75> brb
[05:01] <Gnea> PsychoX75: depends on the samba config
[05:07] <PsychoX75> back in town.
[05:07] <PsychoX75> Gnea: u're right. The one giving problems is owned by 'main'. While the other drive which works fine is owned by "Root"
[05:07] <PsychoX75> now comes the big question... how do i change the owner of a whole drive?
[05:08] <Haematoma> chown
[05:09] <PsychoX75> reading...
[05:09] <Haematoma> mount the drive
[05:09] <PsychoX75> it's mounted as /mnt/TheVault
[05:10] <fullmetal> chown (username) -Rf /*
[05:10] <PsychoX75> current owner is "main" and it should be "root".   Right?   In order for SMB share to share without problems with the rest of the network.
[05:10] <fullmetal> be careful though
[05:10] <Haematoma> chown -r [OWNER][[:GROUP]] /mnt/TheVault
[05:10] <fullmetal> may lock you out of your /home directory
[05:10] <Haematoma> oops
[05:10] <Haematoma> capital R
[05:10] <fullmetal> use sparingly
[05:11] <Haematoma> chown -R [OWNER][[:GROUP]] /mnt/TheVault
[05:11] <PsychoX75> only gonna change a shared HDD. It's not the systemdrive.
[05:11] <Haematoma> don't use fullmetals command
[05:11] <PsychoX75> :)
[05:11] <Haematoma> it changes the owner of every fucking file
[05:11] <PsychoX75> k
[05:11] <PsychoX75> checking group of root
[05:11] <fullmetal> he did say the entire drive.
[05:11] <Haematoma> not his computers drive
[05:11] <Haematoma> its netmapped drive
[05:11] <Guest80659> hi all! how can i get back the recently used tab in my app menu. it has disappeared!!
[05:11] <fullmetal> roger that
[05:12] <PsychoX75> i want to change the entire drive indeed. Entire /mnt/TheVault.
[05:12] <fullmetal> -R is for recursively
[05:12] <fullmetal> -f is for force
[05:12] <Haematoma> so no error messages
[05:13] <PsychoX75> k.
[05:13] <Haematoma> let us know if it works out for you
[05:13] <PsychoX75> Still Haematoma seems to be a more reasonable
[05:13] <PsychoX75> it specifies the target.
[05:13] <PsychoX75> chown -R root root /mnt/TheVault
[05:13] <purpleyuan> Guest80659: by "recently used", do you mean Recent Documents?
[05:13] <PsychoX75> oops.... forgot the 'f'
[05:13] <PsychoX75> chown -Rf root root /mnt/TheVault
[05:14] <fullmetal> @psychox dont forget a username
[05:14] <fullmetal> your chown'ing
[05:14] <fullmetal> not chmod'ing
[05:14] <PsychoX75> username is 'root'
[05:14] <fullmetal> gotcha
[05:14] <PsychoX75> fullmetal: chown/chmod..   huh?
[05:14] <tbruff13> hey how can i add radio stations from live365 to banshee
[05:14] <fullmetal> read too fast
[05:14] <fullmetal> chown takes ownership
[05:14] <Haematoma> yeah so what I would do is use ls -l on the hard drive is working
[05:14] <fullmetal> chmod modifies the access permissions
[05:15] <Haematoma> and then match the permissions and owners of that file with the 2nd drive
[05:15] <PsychoX75> right now i'm logged in as 'main'.
[05:15] <Haematoma> so that the 2nd drive has the same perm and owners as the drive that is working
[05:15] <PsychoX75> So i guess 'chmod' should be the one for me... otherwise main will 'take' the permission instead of assigning it to 'root'
[05:15] <PsychoX75> right?
[05:15] <PsychoX75> chmod -Rf root root /mnt/TheVault              ??
[05:16] <Haematoma> chown for changing the owners
[05:16] <Haematoma> chmod is for permissions
[05:16] <binarycodes> chgrp for changing group, although chown username:group works too
[05:16] <fullmetal> easy to remember
[05:16] <fullmetal> 4
[05:16] <fullmetal> 2
[05:16] <fullmetal> 1
[05:16] <FloodBot1> fullmetal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <fullmetal> read
[05:16] <fullmetal> write
[05:17]  * PsychoX75 scratches behind his head... so which do i use?
[05:17] <PsychoX75> both/
[05:17] <fullmetal> its a shared drive right?
[05:17] <PsychoX75> yep
[05:17] <PsychoX75> ohhh
[05:17] <PsychoX75> i'll start changing the user now... that's step 1 anyways.
[05:17] <fullmetal> so chowning would only change access for one
[05:18] <fullmetal> chmod will change the access.
[05:18] <fullmetal> then its not user specific
[05:18] <Haematoma> thats true
[05:18] <fullmetal> like chmod 755
[05:18] <fullmetal> sets it for RWX RX RX
[05:18] <fullmetal> for owner group everyone
[05:18] <Haematoma> haha :)
[05:18] <PsychoX75> ah
[05:18] <binarycodes> you dont want to set x on arbitrary files
[05:18] <binarycodes> only on directories
[05:18] <PsychoX75> chmod 755 /mnt/TheVault        ?
[05:19] <fullmetal> he may be right
[05:19] <fullmetal> 744 is more like it
[05:19] <binarycodes> find ./ -type d chmod 755 '{}' \;
[05:19] <binarycodes> find ./ -type f chmod 644 '{}' \;
[05:19] <Haematoma> agreed
[05:20] <fullmetal> so it would look like chmod 744 -Rfv /directory
[05:20] <Ben64> 644
[05:20] <fullmetal> @haematoma i get so used to scripted executables
[05:20] <PsychoX75> -Rfv = Recursively Forced Verbose?
[05:20] <fullmetal> yep
[05:20] <binarycodes> err, 644 for files, 755 for directories
[05:20] <fullmetal> so you can watch it work
[05:20] <PsychoX75> aight.
[05:21] <PsychoX75> i'll do both though... feels nicer to have both my network drives under the same user.
[05:21] <PsychoX75> root.
[05:21] <PsychoX75> First:  chown -Rf root root /mnt/TheVault
[05:21] <PsychoX75> Then: chmod 744 -Rfv /mnt/TheVault
[05:22] <fullmetal> confucius say, he who play in root, eventually kill tree
[05:22] <noctix> Anyone think they could help me with an issue I've been having with flash player on Ubuntu 11.04? I can't get it to work on any of my web browsers.
[05:22] <PsychoX75> fullmetal:   *gulp*    I didn't like that.
[05:22] <PsychoX75> 0_o
[05:22] <purpleyuan> Hey all. How would you go about troubleshooting a usb mouse? It recently stopped working.
[05:23] <fullmetal> just saying, its a powerful focus. use sparingly
[05:23] <binarycodes> purpleyuan: dmesg is a good place to start
[05:23] <PsychoX75> "kill tree" translates to everyone the same.... even a newbie like me.     U think i can kill the tree eventually?   :S
[05:23] <purpleyuan> binarycodes: The USB is detected.
[05:23] <fullmetal> all it takes as root is one fatal enter key
[05:23] <fullmetal> and a "whoops"
[05:23] <fullmetal> like
[05:24] <fullmetal> sudo rm -Rf /*
[05:24]  * Suhel code testing
[05:24] <fullmetal> NEVER TYPE THAT IN
[05:24] <PsychoX75> i feel u.
[05:24] <PsychoX75> :S
[05:24] <purpleyuan> binarycodes: It seems that everything is alright on the usb receiver end, but I was wondering if there was some way to see what (if anything) it is getting from the mouse
[05:24] <PsychoX75> i guess i'll change the other drive then....
[05:24] <Suhel> good morning linux'ers ;)
[05:24] <Ben64> noctix: 64 or 32 bit
[05:24] <PsychoX75> chown -Rf main user /mnt/DaBoss
[05:25] <PsychoX75> Suhel: good morning.
[05:25] <fullmetal> that will change the owner sure enough
[05:25] <fullmetal> throw in a v to see it work
[05:25] <PsychoX75> k
[05:25] <Suhel> Psychox75: excited about 13th Oct?
[05:25] <PsychoX75> changing owners now.... *sec*
[05:25] <noctix> Ben64: 32-bit
[05:25] <fullmetal> ever want to log the transaction just redirect the terminal output
[05:25] <fullmetal> like this
[05:25] <Ben64> noctix: you should be able to do that right from synaptic then
[05:25] <PsychoX75> Suhel: did i miss something?  0_o
[05:26] <noctix> Ben64: Tried it.
[05:26] <fullmetal> chown -Rf main user /mnt/DaBoss >> /directory.txt
[05:26] <Suhel> PsychoX75: release of Ocelot :)
[05:26] <noctix> Ben64: I've tried installing/reinstalling Flash through the software center, through the terminal and through Flash-Aid for Firefox.
[05:26] <PsychoX75> Suhel: new to linux. What's that?
[05:27] <fullmetal> 11.10?
[05:27] <Suhel> noctix: are you having problems with firefox flash?
[05:27] <Ben64> not sure what flash aid is, but i've never had a problem with 32 bit + synaptic
[05:27] <noctix> Suhel: I'm having problems with Flash in general regardless of which browser I'm on.
[05:27] <JoeDulin> PsychoX75: It's the new Ubuntu distribution. They put one out every 6 months. Lots of updates and whatnot.
[05:27] <Suhel> noctix: search for adobe flash in software center and install the one which has for Mozilla or Firefox written in the description
[05:28] <binarycodes> purpleyuan: try loading usbhid and see if it helps
[05:28] <binarycodes> modprobe it
[05:28] <Suhel> PsychoX75: its the new version of Ubuntu :)
[05:28] <Ben64> flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package)
[05:28] <Ben64> that should be the correct one
[05:28] <fullmetal> @noctix did you try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:28] <fullmetal> ?
[05:28] <PsychoX75> wow. Nice.
[05:28] <noctix> fullmetal: yes
[05:29] <fullmetal> what distro?
[05:29] <Suhel> PsychoX75: yup, cant wait for it  :D
[05:29] <Suhel> noctix: try the flash thing I told ya, it always works for me :)
[05:29] <noctix> Suhel: Tried installing the other Flash and still no luck.
[05:29] <Ben64> you could try manually doing it too
[05:30] <noctix> Ben64: Tried it
[05:30] <Ben64> then ... user error?
[05:30] <purpleyuan> binarycodes: okay. tried "sudo modprobe usbhid" but it didn't seem to do anything
[05:30] <Suhel> noctix: did you remove the previously installed flash first? before installing the other?
[05:30] <JoeDulin> noctix: Have you tried other browsers to see if possibly just a Firefox problem?
[05:30] <noctix> Suhel: Yes
[05:30] <noctix> JoeDulin: Yes
[05:30] <Suhel> noctix: ah dat sucks :(
[05:30] <nronksr> What are people using for email servers these days?
[05:31] <PsychoX75> gimme a sec guys.. Kinda changing things on my whole raid 2Tb systems.... kinda nervous here.... I'll speak afterwards about 13oct.  (it feels like friday 13th right now)
[05:31] <Ben64> nronksr: google apps :(
[05:31] <noctix> What happens is the flash player loads and then it either shows up as a black box or it shows up distorted and unable to play video.
[05:31] <Ben64> you should have mentioned that before
[05:31] <Suhel> noctix: do you av ad blockers?
[05:31] <nronksr> Ben64: I mean in particular if they own their email own server.
[05:31] <oxi> i cant transfer files over bluetooth  help please?
[05:32] <fullmetal> brb
[05:32] <Suhel> noctix: some sites detect Ad! blockers and then Videos wont load
[05:32] <noctix> Suhel: I have ad blocking on Firefox but not on Chrome, and it won't work on either.
[05:32] <chalcedony> i thought my computer or at least libreoffice or something was crashing, earlier tonight.. i was able to send at least a broken copy of the document i was trying to complete by midnight deadline, with a note about my computer crashing, but it didn't crash it CHANGED .. until tonight, i had dark tabs and task bar, and a different font in xchat.. i don't know what i did or how it did it.. ideas? - is it haunted?
[05:32] <Ben64> nronksr: dovecot and postfix
[05:32] <Ben64> noctix: what video card do you have
[05:33] <purpleyuan> It used to be that if I pulled the usb receiver out and then plugged it back in, the mouse would work for maybe 2-3 seconds. Yesterday I was able to get it up for literally half a second, but today I get nothing, even if I switch to a different usb.
[05:33] <noctix> Ben64: Not sure. It's a laptop, but it's never had an issue with flash before until I installed Ubuntu on it.
[05:33] <PsychoX75> now goes: chmod 744 -Rf /mnt/TheVault                                 it was 744 right?
[05:33] <noctix> All I can tell you is that it's nVidia
[05:33] <purpleyuan> The thing is that I can't tell if it's an issue with the mouse itself and I just have to go buy a new one or if it's something I can fix.
[05:34] <chalcedony> purplefool, 10.04?
[05:34] <binarycodes> purpleyuan: usb mice are plug n play devices! should work out of the box!
[05:34] <Ben64> noctix: go to youtube, open a video, right click, settings, disable hardware acceleration
[05:34] <Takyoji> How would I be able to find a RAM-intensive application via CLI? I have almost the entire 2GB of RAM used for just a very small LDAP/NFS server and I can't find what's sucking all the RAM (I try using `top` and having it order it by memory usage, but I can't find anything over 5%)
[05:34] <Ben64> Takyoji: try "htop"
[05:35] <html> 64 bit flash is ALWAYS A HARD TASK  BUT ITS CAN BEN DONE,,, JUST NNED TO know where and how to look for it
[05:35] <Guest19172> this is the ubuntu channel?
[05:35] <theadmin> Guest19172: Yup.
[05:35] <PsychoX75> Guest: yeah
[05:35] <Ben64> thats what the #ubuntu is for
[05:35] <purpleyuan> binarycodes: I know. For a very long time it worked perfectly well, which is why I am puzzled that it is not working anymore.
[05:35] <dhasenan_> Takyoji, you can also do "top" and press <Shift>M to sort by memory usage.
[05:35] <Guest19172> ok so I can ask any question right?
[05:35] <PsychoX75> Guest: u're accessing this channel via an internet browser?
[05:35] <PsychoX75> Guest: yep
[05:35] <Takyoji> dhasenan_: Yes, that's what I've been doing in top
[05:35] <Ben64> any ubuntu question, sure
[05:36] <dhasenan_> Oh, right, I can't read.
[05:36] <Takyoji> there's nothing that exceeds 5%
[05:36] <Ben64> Takyoji: how do you know all the ram is being used
[05:36] <binarycodes> purpleyuan: well this may be silly, but test it on another system to check whether the mouse itself is fine or not
[05:36] <PsychoX75> Guest: u're making us curious.   :)
[05:36] <Takyoji> by the memory usage indicated at the top of `top`, or by executing `free -m`
[05:36] <Ben64> pastebin the output of `free -m`
[05:36] <noctix> Ben64: Did it. No luck though. I can play videos on Youtube but not on sites like Gametrailers, for example.
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[05:37] <Ben64> try replacing it with flash 11
[05:37] <theadmin> Takyoji: Could you run "top" as root to see other users' processes?
[05:37] <Takyoji> http://paste.ubuntu.com/704740/
[05:37] <JoeDulin> noctix: Could you be viewing HTML5 videos on youtube?
[05:37] <binarycodes> Takyoji: its the cache and buffers
[05:37] <purpleyuan> binarycodes: sounds like a good idea.
[05:37] <Joah> hi, all. i've installed a theme on my ubuntu system, but it says it needs the gtk+ theme engine "ubuntulooks". i tried apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks, but that package has no installation candidate. ideas?
[05:37] <binarycodes> your actual usage is 733
[05:38] <Ben64> Takyoji: thats fine, 795+440 isn't "actually" being used
[05:38] <Ben64> you can't count buffer and cache as usage
[05:38] <Takyoji> So the cache and buffers being for? The filesystem, or?
[05:38] <noctix> JoeDulin: I don't know? The sites I have problems with notably are Gametrailers and Pandora. The latter won't load at all and just tells me to troubleshoot.
[05:38] <binarycodes> Takyoji: unused RAM is wasted RAM so stop worrying :)
[05:38] <Ben64> for example - my computer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704741/
[05:38] <PsychoX75> i guess we lost 'Guest'.
[05:39] <JoeDulin> noctix: I just know a lot of YouTube these days is HTML5. Or at least they were planning on that. So, was just a thought as to why it would work where others don't.
[05:39] <Takyoji> but what does it truly mean? :P
[05:39] <Takyoji> even if there's nothing to worry about. :P
[05:39] <Ben64> it means linux uses ram efficiently
[05:39] <chalcedony> how do i change tabs and task bar colors in ubuntu 11.04?
[05:40] <binarycodes> it means that those are the old data which was once in RAM and still is in RAM but is not in current use
[05:40] <binarycodes> old or prefetch data that is
[05:40] <binarycodes> Takyoji: ^^
[05:41] <JoeDulin> chalecedony: Super key -> type "appearance" -> Hit Enter. Most of your appearance preferences can be found there.
[05:41] <jasef> When is 11.10 release due again? I want to do a distupgrade but don't feel like going back to dailys
[05:41] <Takyoji> So it's dereferenced and hasn't been reallocated to another process then, correct?
[05:41] <Ben64> sorta
[05:41] <Ben64> it keeps the stuff in memory in case its needed
[05:41] <JoeDulin> jasef: I think someone was saying 13th earlier
[05:41] <noctix> Out of ideas?
[05:41] <chalcedony> JoeDulin, what is a 'super key'?
[05:41] <binarycodes> yes, Takyoji those will stay till the space is actually required by some other app
[05:41] <jasef> chalcedony, The windows key if you have one.
[05:41] <theadmin> chalcedony: The "Windows logo thingy" key
[05:41] <JoeDulin> chalcedony: The one with the Windows logo.
[05:41] <theadmin> chalcedony: Or the Cmd key on Macs
[05:41] <somsip> chalcedony: usually the Windoes key, also called Mod4
[05:41] <chalcedony> i don't have one
[05:41] <Ben64> Takyoji: lets say I have a 200MB file, and want to md5sum it
[05:42] <chalcedony> this is an IBM Model M keyboard
[05:42] <Ben64> real	0m0.645s
[05:42] <Ben64> then i md5 it again
[05:42] <Ben64> real	0m0.396s
[05:42] <jasef> chalcedony, in 11.04 clicking the menu button at the top left is equivalent to a super-key press.
[05:42] <Takyoji> ahh
[05:42] <Ben64> cause it has now been cached
[05:42] <JoeDulin> chalcedony: Ignore where I said super. Click in the top left instead
[05:42] <theadmin> chalcedony: Remap some key to it, then, like this... xmodmap -e 'keysym Ctrl_R=Super_L' will make Right Ctrl behave like Left Super
[05:43] <chalcedony> heh ok ill try that .. *somehow* it changed the colors and the font in xchat
[05:43] <html> Ben64,  agreed and  which is why linux is noted best for its servers, but you tell a IT guy about the desktop about he freaks ,
[05:43] <theadmin> Err, that'd be "Control_R", actually
[05:43] <Ben64> i use ubuntu for server and desktop
[05:44] <JoeDulin> I use Ubuntu, period. Except when I'm straight up forced not to... then it's a Windows VM
[05:44] <Ben64> theres not many things i can't get working in linux
[05:45] <JoeDulin> Ben64, MS Office mainly for me. School requires stuff to be turned in as docx
[05:45] <Ben64> doesn't openoffice have that ability
[05:45] <theadmin> JoeDulin: LibreOffice can save to OpenXML (docx)
[05:45] <jasef> Problem with LibreOffice and OpenOffice is that they sometimes screw up the formatting converting to/from .docx
[05:45] <johzephine> is this the place to ask for help with ubuntu
[05:45] <JoeDulin> theadmin, Oooh, nice. I've been waiting for that but never check. Usually use Google Docs, so I forget.
[05:46] <krisss117> hi i have file .volume on desktop and i cant delete it
[05:46] <sagetarian> best find ever = oo2gd ... imports and exports from LibreOffice to Google Docs
[05:46] <chalcedony> wow! that was like an electric shock.. i clicked System > Preferences > Appearance and it turned things back before it opened the window
[05:46] <binarycodes> latex my friends, latex is the answer to the docx madness
[05:46] <krisss117> i cant connect to FTP
[05:46] <krisss117> how i can delete the volume file ?
[05:46] <jasef> Gdocs can save as ODT now
[05:46] <Takyoji> Would be nice if we had another option of an open source software suite; it's too monoculture with there just primarily being OpenOffice/LibreOffice.
[05:47] <Takyoji> open source office software suite*
[05:47] <binarycodes> Takyoji: not interesting enough project for most hackers :P
[05:47] <Takyoji> Google Docs could save as ODT for quite some time now last I recall
[05:47] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: I wish there were more options as well
[05:47] <purpleyuan> johzephine: yep
[05:47] <sagetarian> Gdocs looks sexy now too :)
[05:47] <JoeDulin> chalcedony, you probably installed something that tried to take appearance control away from Ubuntu. Would be my guess at least. So when you open that, it used it's settings instead
[05:47] <Shirakawasuna> koffice was almost doing a good job before KDE 4
[05:47] <krisss117> where nautilus map files, becouse when i put ls then i dont see that file
[05:47] <Shirakawasuna> then they rebuilt everything and it's unusable
[05:47] <Shirakawasuna> I hate the way openoffice/libreoffice handles scaling images.
[05:48] <Takyoji> I just have a feeling that OpenOffice is a bit of bloat and mess (and perhaps some part due to Java or similar) that keeps people from innovating it
[05:48] <chalcedony> JoeDulin, that was WEIRD.
[05:48] <jasef> I can't stand LibreOffice
[05:48] <Shirakawasuna> iirc a lot of the java was stripped out/made optional, Takyoji
[05:48] <Takyoji> I think I still have issues with SVGs in OpenOffice, such as with transparency.
[05:48] <chalcedony> jasef, you use calc?
[05:48] <JoeDulin> Not a huge fan of LibreOffice myself. GDocs does the trick for me :-)
[05:48] <Takyoji> So it's mostly C or C++ then, or?
[05:48] <Shirakawasuna> yeah, it doesn't like svgs at all
[05:48] <jasef> Used once.
[05:48] <whmpoly> Does anyone set up ipv6 in ubuntu successful?
[05:49] <Takyoji> I have IPv6 in Ubuntu, yes;
[05:49] <Ben64> me too ^
[05:49] <jasef> I love using Ubuntu on my laptop even though it has shit power management, but when I need office documents I reboot into Windows, just for MSOffice.
[05:49] <Shirakawasuna> wikipedia says C++ and java
[05:49] <Takyoji> there's also the #ipv6 channel (that I'm also in) that you can get support from if you can't get help from here.
[05:49] <jasef> It's the only reason I keep Windows on my laptop.
[05:49] <johzephine> I uhhhh uninstalled network manager and wicd (dumb move) because I was having troubles with my wireless.  Now I can't connect to the internet.  How do I reinstall wicd without an internet connection?
[05:49] <symboliteracy> jasef, Open office not doing it?
[05:49] <jasef> I hate OpenOffice lol
[05:50] <Shirakawasuna> jasef: to save on some annoyance, you could try installing windows with virtualbox, then run office through that
[05:50] <Shirakawasuna> that's what I do
[05:50] <JoeDulin> jasef: Use a VM, save yourself some hassle :-)
[05:50] <Takyoji> It works, and it does the job; but it could be better. :P
[05:50] <KM0201> jasef: it's not that bad once you get used to it (i actually prefer it now)
[05:50] <jasef> VirtualBox on my netbook would probably be a bad idea
[05:50] <Takyoji> Although, for me it seems to crash quite a lot for me. xP
[05:50] <KM0201> johzephine: that's gonna be a complex one
[05:50] <Shirakawasuna> I would be fine with openoffice if 1) it handled large documents better, 2) it handled scaling images better, and 3) It had seamless document format conversion (doc, docx, odt, etc.)
[05:50] <Takyoji> Specifically the latest iteration of LibreOffice through Ubuntu 11.04 repositories; I never had crashing issues at all before.
[05:50] <johzephine> KM0201: :(  Know of any forum threads or anything that have a reasonable solution?
[05:51] <johzephine> KM0201: I am pretty dense with ubuntu haha.
[05:51] <jasef> KM0201, I've tried getting used to it, I just hate it. Always have and always will lol. Possibly just me but meh
[05:51] <Shirakawasuna> right now, I'll make an awesome 800x60 image, and libreoffice will manage to make it blurry
[05:51] <Takyoji> as for 'scaling images better', do you mean along the lines of preserving aspect ratio?
[05:51] <Shirakawasuna> *800x600
[05:51] <johzephine> KM0201: and my netbook doesn't have a cd drive, a lot of the solutions I've seen suggest a cd.
[05:51] <KM0201> johzephine: ifi had to guess... (and it is strictly a guess)... if you still have an ubuntu live CD, you can boot your ubuntu install, add your live CD a an install source, and either install wicd, or install network manager, from the cd
[05:51] <Takyoji> ahh, the antialiasing algorithm.
[05:51] <vaev> johzephine: how do you connect to the net on the computer?
[05:51] <JoeDulin> jasef: Netbooks do ok with VMs. Not great, but workable. Use WinXP if you have a choice.
[05:51] <KM0201> johzephine: ugh
[05:51] <jasef> NOOOO
[05:51] <jasef> I hate WInXP
[05:51] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: No, I mean not screwing them up entirely. By default, it seems to scale everything, and it has terrible artifacts/blurriness.
[05:51] <jasef> Lol
[05:52] <jasef> I like my Windows 7 :(
[05:52] <johzephine> vaev: you mean how am I connected now?  I have a second computer.
[05:52] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: I have to make my images at least 1000xwhatever to get them to look OK, but even then they're resized and a little fuzzy
[05:52] <JoeDulin> jasef: If all you're using it for is Office, what does it matter? :-P
[05:52] <Takyoji> ahh, like it's resizing the actual file itself and resaving it with lossy compression. :P
[05:52] <vaev> johzephine: no I mean were you relying on wireless alone or can you connect it with a wire to your network?
[05:52] <jasef> Because Windows XP is evil
[05:52] <Takyoji> (within the document)
[05:52] <jasef> Abhorrent
[05:52] <jasef> Evil
[05:52] <johzephine> vaev: I tried that, doesn't seem to connect.
[05:52] <jasef> Disgusting...
[05:52] <jasef> Stuff like that
[05:52] <FloodBot1> jasef: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <jasef> Sorry FloodBot1, I forgot.
[05:53] <Takyoji> TERRORIST
[05:53] <virtuelv> jasef: sounds like you're talking about Unity
[05:53] <KM0201> vaev: if network manager and wicd is uninstalled, he won't be able to get online even with a wired connection
[05:53] <vaev> johzephine: it wouldn't without network manager I imagine. command line is your friend now
[05:53] <jasef> Yes, Unity is too. I use Gnome2 on 11.04
[05:53] <jasef> I want 11.10 to release already so I can go back to Gnome3 and be stable.
[05:53] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: It's doing something weird, I don't know how. I don't know why it defaults to resizing the images when it can't do that well.
[05:53] <Takyoji> avoiding Unity as well; specifically because it's horrid for a multi-screen setup
[05:53] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: I've actually come to like Unity. Took a bit, but it's kind of nice.
[05:53] <Shirakawasuna> +1 xubuntu
[05:53] <virtuelv> Takyoji: it's horrid for any set up
[05:54] <chalcedony> if i download a new theme for window borders, and try it, am i stuck with it?
[05:54] <vaev> hold on let me boot up to ubuntu on my laptop so I see what tools are available
[05:54] <Takyoji> Yea, we all know that at least. :P
[05:54] <johzephine> okay
[05:54] <Shirakawasuna> chalcedony: nope
[05:54] <virtuelv> Unity makes me want to throw my laptop across the room
[05:54] <Shirakawasuna> chalcedony: you can choose any window borders you'd like, and revert easily.
[05:54] <chalcedony> what i have is pretty ok, i don't really maybe want this new one
[05:54] <virtuelv> It makes me want to use OS X instead
[05:54] <virtuelv> that's how bad it is
[05:54] <virtuelv> I hate OS X
[05:54] <Takyoji> Unity is alright for casual use; but for actual productive work (i.e. multitasking), then it's not so good at all. xP
[05:54] <Shirakawasuna> Unity could be just fine with a few tweaks
[05:55] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: Well, it's pretty much replaced Gnome-Do for me. I very very very rarely actually click anything if I can avoid it
[05:55] <chalcedony> how do you revert Shirakawasuna ?
[05:55] <PsychoX75> Can the way that i mounted a drive has impact on how rights will be handled on it?
[05:55] <jasef> Unity is fine on larger screens
[05:55] <virtuelv> JoeDulin: I never used Gnome-Do, because it was a toy
[05:55] <jasef> It's terrible on my netbook - the screen is too small
[05:55] <virtuelv> Unity is even worse
[05:55] <jasef> The sidebar needs scrolling all the time -.-
[05:55] <whmpoly> I always use ubuntu 10.04,but when I use unity on the laptop of my friends, I want to throw it,too
[05:56] <Shirakawasuna> chalcedony: Well, you're going to install a window border theme. In the same app that you use to switch themes (I forget the exact name, as I use xubuntu), there will be several options. One of them is the default. You can try them out right now if you'd like.
[05:56] <purpleyuan> chalcedony: System>Preferences>Appearances, iirc
[05:56] <virtuelv> that brings me to why I came in here
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> unity rocks
[05:56] <Shirakawasuna> chalcedony: it's going to be in 'appearances' or 'window borders'
[05:56] <Takyoji> In my setup I have GNOME 2 right now, whereas on my right screen, I have a panel along the right (it's widescreen, so it doesn't feel very intruding on the screen space) which has various realtime system graphs (CPU, RAM, network, disk, SWAP, temperatures, etc) and since it's a panel, no application can overlap it.
[05:56] <vaev> johzephine: connect the laptop with the wire and open up the terminal. then run "sudo dhclient"
[05:56] <Takyoji> I have yet to be able to accomplish the same setup in Unity whatsoever
[05:56] <virtuelv> I sort of need a distro that's reasonably recent
[05:56] <vaev> let's try if that works at first
[05:56] <JoeDulin> lotuspsychje: glad I'm not the only one doesn't hate it
[05:56] <chalcedony> yes but i don't see "magically switch back to what you had"
[05:56] <virtuelv> 11.04 was problematic on my machine, because I alternate between multi and single-screen setups
[05:56] <PsychoX75> what's that pastebin site again?
[05:56] <oxi> hi all
[05:56] <virtuelv> but I really, really can't do my job with Unity
[05:57] <PsychoX75> hi oxi
[05:57] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: Unity has gone over-the-top into gnome interface philosophy mode :/
[05:57] <virtuelv> does anyone have alternatives?
[05:57] <jasef> My laptop screen is way too small, 1024x600.
[05:57] <oxi>  can anyone helpme
[05:57] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: In an effort to get a consistent, recognizable, and unique interface, they're sacrificing customizability and power.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> JoeDulin: i installed natty on my dads pc he's 70 years old, and finds everything back on unity
[05:57] <chalcedony> what i want is something gray and blue with NO orange.
[05:57] <Takyoji> might flee to LXDE. :P
[05:57] <whmpoly> My question has no answer on ipv6 channel
[05:57] <johzephine> vaev: the wire is in anothe room, and I can't move this computer.  hang on.
[05:57] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: Have you given 11.10 a try? I don't know if it would be any better
[05:57] <PsychoX75> Please check my FSTAB there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704746/
[05:58] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: I'm using xfce (xubuntu) and it's great
[05:58] <virtuelv> JoeDulin: this _is_ 11.10
[05:58] <whmpoly> Did anyone use isatapd on ubuntu?
[05:58] <oxi> im trying to send a file over bluetooth
[05:58] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: XFCE 4.8 is sooooooo much better than previous xfces
[05:58] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: My bad... :-P
[05:58] <theadmin> Takyoji: Try XFCE, it's a very GNOME2-like desktop
[05:58] <PsychoX75> Having troubles to change user or change rights.
[05:58] <vaev> johzephine: you're not making this easy are you? :)
[05:58] <oxi> but i got   unable to find service record bluetooth
[05:58] <virtuelv> 11.10 has no traditional gn ome 2
[05:58] <oxi> im on 11.10
[05:58] <Shirakawasuna> Does the unity on 11.10 organize applications by category?
[05:58] <Takyoji> I don't use ISATAPd at all; also just wait on #ipv6 and re-ask occasionally, someone will likely be able to answer.
[05:58] <PsychoX75> the UUID is the way that i'm using to mount my raid drives. Thats the one i'm trying to share.
[05:58] <Shirakawasuna> Because the one in natty doesn't and it drove me insane
[05:58] <johzephine> vaev: haha, I just moved, all of my computers have been having power supply issues.  don't talk to me about easy.
[05:58] <oxi>  and im using classic gnome
[05:59] <Shirakawasuna> If I install a few new multimedia apps to try out several, I'm going to forget half of their names....
[05:59] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: can you not install it? or maybe go with something like lxde and customize?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> jasef, you can make unity bar smaller with ccsm
[05:59] <jasef> Or just don't use unity :P I'm okay with that.
[05:59] <jasef> Thanks though
[05:59] <rawfodog> Hi guys. I'm dual booting 2 linux distros. I deleted the other one to stick with my ubuntu variant. How do I get rid of the grub loader ?
[05:59] <Shirakawasuna> in a normal app menu, I can go to the 'multimedia' category and find them, but not in unity ;)
[05:59] <virtuelv> the lens system in unity is incredibly retarded, btw
[05:59] <Shirakawasuna> rawfodog: Do you mean the grub entry for the other linux distro?
[05:59] <Takyoji> Xfce just doesn't feel very appealing as being "more lightweight", as it's only a several MB less of a requirement than GNOME 2 is; while I've been able to get LXDE running on very minimal of RAM. :P
[06:00] <JoeDulin> jasef: just enable the scale plugin from compiz and throw it on as a corner mouse gesture. it's very handy. i don't think i've ever actually used the side bar in unity
[06:00] <rawfodog> sure, I just want it to boot ubuntu automatically now
[06:00] <theadmin> Takyoji: Or you can use Mate, which is a gnome2 fork
[06:00] <rawfodog> (there was only 2 OS for the grub)
[06:00] <JoeDulin> jasef: I think scale is the right one. where it shows you all your open windows nice small like.
[06:00] <george> can someone provide some moc help here?
[06:00] <virtuelv> normally, when one has a text field, and you press tab, it's because you want to go the next field in a form, in other words, start navigating the results of what you typed
[06:00] <virtuelv> in unity, it switches you to an entirely different lens
[06:00] <xgt001> is mate packaged for ubuntu now?
[06:00] <Shirakawasuna> rawfodog: I'm new to grub2, so... I would read up on it just to make sure, but I believe if you run sudo grub-setup things might just be fixed.
[06:00] <theadmin> xgt001: Doubt that
[06:01] <virtuelv> and the "Run application" lens in Unity is not part of the tab order, so if you want to get back to that, you have to press Alt-F2
[06:01] <Shirakawasuna> rawfodog: you can verify beforehand by looking at /boot/grub/menu.cfg
[06:01] <Shirakawasuna> rawfodog: (after grub-setup, before restarting)
[06:01] <jasef> JoeDulin, I'll run ccsm and change the setting, and check unity soon lol
[06:01] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: that is one thing i miss about gnome-do. i liked being able to launch apps and run commands from the same box
[06:02] <NiceGuy> Hi beware a user here called GirlyGirl make people run rm -rm / to destroy system
[06:02] <virtuelv> jasef: just ditch ubuntu rather than try unity
[06:02] <Shirakawasuna> JoeDulin: 'synapse' is basically gnome do but better
[06:02] <virtuelv> and what's with software centre
[06:02] <Shirakawasuna> JoeDulin: and will let you do that
[06:02] <virtuelv> I can understand wanting a more lightweight alternative than synaptic
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> virtuelv: if you dont like ubuntu, why are you here?
[06:03] <JoeDulin> Shirakawasuna: Unity gets me 90% of the way there with just a super key press. I'm happy with that. Thanks though :-)
[06:03] <Shirakawasuna> I like the software center, personally
[06:03] <virtuelv> lotuspsychje: because I have liked Ubuntu since 2004, and I'm seeing it's being destroyed by someone hell-bent on deciding what my computing experience should be like
[06:03] <Takyoji> Software Center is decent; it just needs some responsiveness/performance tweaks
[06:03] <virtuelv> yes, really - I've run Ubuntu since before the first release
[06:03] <Shirakawasuna> JoeDulin: I totally understand. My entire experience with Unity is that it was 90% there ;).
[06:03] <Entelin> I use ubuntu, but I dont use unity or gnome or anything, I just install openbox and disable the graphical login manager
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> virtuelv: ubuntu is been better then ever in my opinion, if you dont like unity switch to classic
[06:04] <virtuelv> Software center would have been decent, except installing stuff that isn't user-facing (e.g. libraries) is too hard
[06:04] <Entelin> quite easy
[06:04] <NiceGuy> Hi beware a user here called GirlyGirl make people run rm -rm / to destroy system
[06:04] <Flannel> NiceGuy: PLease stop that.
[06:04] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: Oh man. I tried out linux mint debian xfce in virtualbox, and that software center was suuuuper slow
[06:04] <virtuelv> lotuspsychje: you missed the memo, there is no classic starting with the release that goes out on tuesday
[06:04]  * peruchan runs  rm -rm /
[06:04] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: I still do most of my installing with apt-get. Software center usually just for searching for something I don't know of yet
[06:04] <Takyoji> "if you dont like unity switch to classic"; that option is going to be removed in either 11.10 or 12.04 :P
[06:04] <virtuelv> from 11.10, all there is, is Unity
[06:05] <Entelin> is openbox still in the new version?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> well then use unity
[06:05] <virtuelv> Takyoji: it is removed in 11.10
[06:05] <Shirakawasuna> xfce is so tiny, I kind of wish they just listed that as an option rather than gnome 2
[06:05] <Shirakawasuna> isn't it something like 50mb?
[06:05] <theadmin> NiceGuy: GirlyGirl is the nicest person I know, you troll. Fail choice :/
[06:05] <Takyoji> I actually have the main Linux Mint (based from Ubuntu) on my laptop and it's fine.
[06:05] <Entelin> xfce is fairly nice
[06:05] <jasef> JoeDulin, Where do I go in CCSM to change the settings again?
[06:05] <JZApples> Running Ubuntu 11.04, when I do a Unity search the files and folders all have the same icons.  Is there a way to correct this???????
[06:05] <theadmin> NiceGuy: Well, the nicest around here :D
[06:05] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: I'm sure someone will quickly build a gnome 2/3 package that gets you to a more traditional desktop
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> if your pc cant handle unity requierments goto xubuntu
[06:05] <JoeDulin> jasef: One moment, I'll have to look
[06:05] <virtuelv> lotuspsychje: have you even tried xfce?
[06:06] <Takyoji> I've never heard of Xfce scaling all the way down to 50MB
[06:06] <Shirakawasuna> XFCE is great
[06:06] <Entelin> xfce is nice, though I personally like openbox better
[06:06] <Takyoji> also, "On Ubuntu, tests show that Xfce 4.6 has lower memory usage than GNOME 2.29 andKDE Plasma Desktop 4.4, but higher than LXDE 0.5"
[06:06] <rww> !notunity-#ubuntu+1 | Takyoji: no it isn't
[06:07] <JoeDulin> Tried XFCE with hardy. Haven't touched it since
[06:07] <PsychoX75> anyone has some know-how of FSTAB?
[06:07] <Shirakawasuna> this is an old version, but this one's 18mb: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/5.1/x/xfce.html
[06:07] <theadmin> JoeDulin: It's changed a lot
[06:07] <JoeDulin> theadmin: I'm sure it has, but if I want lightweight I usually go with a customized LXDE
[06:08] <JoeDulin> theadmin: Otherwise it's Ubuntu
[06:08] <theadmin> JoeDulin: Meh, openbox + fbpanel + launchy ftw
[06:08] <Takyoji> The point is it being shipped by default as an option from GDM, without installation of separate packages.
[06:09] <Shirakawasuna> right...
[06:09] <JoeDulin> theadmin: Compiz + Gnome-Do (or would try other launchers mentioned tonight) + lxpanel on the left and really small
[06:09] <Shirakawasuna> Pushing Unity this hard is a bad idea when it doesn't have enough functionality or ease of use.
[06:09] <Takyoji> think of the uninformed and those that aren't literate to understand to install the package to get the option.
[06:10] <Shirakawasuna> Right
[06:10] <Shirakawasuna> Those people will generally have someone else installing ubuntu for them
[06:10] <jasef> -,- I find it kind of sad that ccsm's window is too big to fit on my screen and I have to alt-drag it
[06:10] <Shirakawasuna> but now, when people complain that they can't figure out unity, there isn't a simple, 'select classic'. Instead someone has to come and install xubuntu or lubuntu or xfce or something else.
[06:10] <Minalien> What people? Because it worries me that somebody has to have somebody else install Ubuntu. <.<
[06:10] <HighOfficer_Bles> Jaga jaga jaga
[06:10] <HighOfficer_Bles> yea yea
[06:10] <Shirakawasuna> Minalien: every new linux user.
[06:10] <HighOfficer_Bles> jaga jjaga jaga
[06:11] <HighOfficer_Bles> yea yea
[06:11] <HighOfficer_Bles> yea yea
[06:11] <FloodBot1> HighOfficer_Bles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <JoeDulin> jasef: sorry about the delay. you're looking for Window Management -> Scale and Utility -> Scale Addons
[06:11] <HighOfficer_Bles> lol
[06:11] <virtuelv> lotuspsychje: besides, you're completely missing the point
[06:11] <HighOfficer_Bles> sry
[06:11] <srk9> I have been given a virtual machine running Ubuntu Server. On Gentoo, I can run "glsa-check -l" to view all security advisories that apply to installed software. IS there an equivalent command on Ubuntu?
[06:11] <george> how can I get the song playing to use the filename like at the top instead of mp3 tag? http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5408/mocf.png , the mp3 tags are all messed up
[06:11] <virtuelv> my machine is entirely capable of handling Unity
[06:12] <virtuelv> it's just that Unity is not created to please any user
[06:12] <Takyoji> It's good that Unity no longer requires graphics acceleration
[06:12] <Shirakawasuna> basically... as it is, Unity works like a power user desktop environment without enough configuration options to make it truly appealing for those users. So new users struggle to figure out what to do at all, intermediate users just deal with it, and power users look elsewhere.
[06:12] <rww> !ot | Shirakawasuna
[06:12] <theadmin> srk9: No, all security patches should install themselves.
[06:12] <JoeDulin> jasef: Under Bindings in Scale, the top option should be Initiate Window Picker and lets you pick a corner of the screen. I like bottom left
[06:12] <PsychoX75> okay. I've got a problem with changing permissions for my shared raid system. It isn't accepting my changes. How come?  CHMOD and CHOWN is ignored.
[06:12] <srk9> theadmin: I don't want the security patches to install themselves before I know what they do.
[06:13] <virtuelv> but, a support question, if that's what we're supposed to ask here
[06:13] <virtuelv> : What alternatives are there to Unity, Gnome shell, LXDE, KDE, XFCE that I'm not aware of?
[06:13] <srk9> theadmin: Anyway, it is telling me that it has patches available and most of them are security patches. I want to see the advisory list.
[06:13] <JoeDulin> jasef: The Scale Addons is so you can set it to let you get a kind of quick toggle big/small with right click
[06:13] <virtuelv> I really can't use either of those
[06:13] <theadmin> srk9: You can just read the update description, and we don't really have any advisory lists, sorry
[06:13] <Shirakawasuna> virtualdirt: openbox
[06:14] <srk9> theadmin: Oh. :(
[06:14] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: I don't really know of any full fledged desktop environments other than those. But there are a ton of window managers
[06:14] <jasef> Ohhh nice.
[06:14] <srk9> theadmin: Is there a way to obtain a list of all explicitly installed packages on the system?
[06:14] <GirlyGirl> srk9: You can select what kind of updates wanted in Software Sources
[06:14] <Shirakawasuna> virtualdirt: You can also run entirely without a full desktop environment, and just use window managers + widget-types apps (e.g. xmonad + dzen)
[06:14] <JoeDulin> jasef: It's my favorite. The only reason I still have a taskbar is because I like having a clock and a system tray
[06:14] <srk9> GirlyGirl: Does that require X Windows?
[06:15] <theadmin> srk9: Not a dpkg fan, sorry, wouldn't know to be honest...
[06:15] <GirlyGirl> srk9: No if you know how to edit apt config files
[06:15] <PsychoX75> -_-
[06:15] <srk9> GirlyGirl: I know how to use vim, but i don't know about these files. They don't exist on Gentoo.
[06:15] <umadbro> theadmin, ./configure;make;sudo make install fan?
[06:15] <virtuelv> I sort of would like a full environment
[06:16] <theadmin> umadbro: pacman :P
[06:16] <umadbro> wait, gentoo?
[06:16] <virtuelv> is there a fork of Gnome 2, that's maintained and in some distro?
[06:16] <GirlyGirl> srk9: Err so why are you in ubuntu's support channel go to #gentoo
[06:16] <srk9> umadbro: Yes. I am a Gentoo user. I was given a virtual machine running Ubuntu Server.
[06:16] <srk9> GirlyGirl: I could do that, but they would send me here because I am asking for Ubuntu help.
[06:16] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: (s)he wants to find an alternative to a Gentoo command for Ubuntu
[06:16] <umadbro> the files exist in the Ubuntu Server
[06:17] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: You could try customizing an environment. LXDE is pretty easy
[06:17] <GirlyGirl> srk9: The config files are in /etc/apt
[06:17] <srk9> GirlyGirl: Thanks.
[06:17] <virtuelv> JoeDulin: I like LXDE, but last time I tried, it didn't work too well with my regular plugging and unplugging of external monitors
[06:18] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: That makes sense. A lot. They're still a little behind
[06:18] <GirlyGirl> srk9: aptitude's curses frontend might work too ... not sur if it can do that
[06:18] <Shirakawasuna> srk9: http://superuser.com/questions/6338/how-do-you-track-which-packages-were-installed-on-ubuntu-linux
[06:18] <Shirakawasuna> srk9: bow down before my googling
[06:19] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: It probably wouldn't be too terribly hard to replace unity with gnome. From what I understand Unity is actually just kind of sitting on top of gnome. I think. Not really sure
[06:20] <srk9> Shirakawasuna: Thanks
[06:20] <virtuelv> JoeDulin: Yes, and for 11.04 that was sort of valid, because it was Gnome 2
[06:20] <virtuelv> gnome 3 doesn't have classic, and getting the old gnome classic to run isn't exactly trivial
[06:20] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: Have you given Linux Mint a try? I haven't heard much out of them recently, but if they're still around you might really like it
[06:21] <Shirakawasuna> srk9: actually it doesn't seem to work like you want it to
[06:21] <Shirakawasuna> srk9: it might be that this information just isn't tracked very well
[06:21] <Shirakawasuna> srk9: You might need to parse /var/log/apt* stuff
[06:21] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: They're built on Ubuntu last I knew, but use their own panels and stuff. You might hate it, you might love it.
[06:22] <Takyoji> it is based from GNOME 2 still and other elements, yes
[06:22] <RobbieCrash> anyone else having issues with launchpad ppas tonight?
[06:22] <Shirakawasuna> what's wrong with xubuntu, virtuelv?
[06:22] <Shirakawasuna> RobbieCrash: what kind of issues?
[06:22] <Takyoji> I was looking at Linux Mint as an option for those disinterested in Unity (or of having to install gnome-panel and so on in 11.10 or later)
[06:22] <virtuelv> Shirakawasuna: I've never liked XFCE
[06:22] <RobbieCrash> Shirakawasuna super slow, many timeouts.
[06:23] <virtuelv> it failed to do simple stuff, such as drag and drop of files
[06:23] <Takyoji> I think Linux Mint would be the most comfortable for most, especially for those coming from Windows.
[06:23] <RobbieCrash> happening with 3 different ppas I have on launchpad
[06:23] <Shirakawasuna> virtuelv: You might want to give it another chance, it's much better than it used to be.
[06:23] <virtuelv> Takyoji: when Mint too has to move to gnome 3, they're screwed
[06:23] <virtuelv> Shirakawasuna: this was in 10.10
[06:23] <virtuelv> I doubt all that much has happened
[06:24] <Takyoji> in their most recent version (based from 11.04), it's not Unity
[06:24] <JoeDulin> Takyoji: I had completely forgotten about it for a long time. I lost interest when I realized they didn't have a setup for LVMs
[06:24] <Shirakawasuna> virtuelv: that's before release of XFCE 4.8. Also drag and drop should ahve worked back then as well?
[06:24] <virtuelv> either way, I'm hoping that elementary OS is doing good
[06:24] <PsychoX75> YES!!! FOUND IT!!! It had to do with the way that i mounted the drive.
[06:24] <virtuelv> Shirakawasuna: not in whatever pathetic excuse they had for a file manager, no
[06:24] <Takyoji> mounted as read-only, or?
[06:24] <Shirakawasuna> virtualdirt: thunar. You can use whatever file manager you want, though. There's nothing wrong with using nautilus in xfce
[06:25] <Shirakawasuna> virtualdirt: and I use drag+drop all the time in thunar
[06:25] <Shirakawasuna> the elementary OS file manager looks interesting as well
[06:26] <PsychoX75> Guys i have a note for you to take.
[06:26] <JoeDulin> jasef: So what do you think of it?
[06:26] <PsychoX75> NOTE: If you mount using UUID, it might make you unable to share/change user rights later on.  In my case i mounted in FSTAB like this: UUID=DC2A169E2A1675AC /mnt/TheVault	ntfs-3g auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=1 37 0 0
[06:26] <Suhel> Hello the ubuntu world
[06:27] <fullmetal> psychox
[06:27] <fullmetal> how did it go
[06:27] <PsychoX75> fullmetal: now that i removed those options it worked. All my computers are seeing the ubuntu machine.
[06:27] <PsychoX75> :)
[06:28] <PsychoX75> thanks for the help ppl
[06:28] <Suhel> PsychoX75: contracts :-)
[06:28] <Shirakawasuna> virtuelv: Not trying to start an argument, just wanted to point to xfce as a pretty good next-of-kin to gnome 2. I'll be quiet now ;)
[06:28] <Takyoji> I need to poke with Xubuntu again some time; I haven't touched it myself for like at least half a year or more
[06:28] <Takyoji> Is Xubuntu only LTS releases?
[06:28] <GirlyGirl> Takyoji: No
[06:28] <Takyoji> erm, yearly
[06:29] <AngrySCV> I've got a computer with 2 hard drives, but only one mounts when I boot. How do I mount it through the terminal? Both the /media and /mnt directories are empty.
[06:29] <Shirakawasuna> Takyoji: it's released just like ubuntu/kubuntu
[06:29] <GirlyGirl> Takyoji: Same release cycle for all official varrians ... kubuntu xubuntu lubuntu and edubuntu
[06:29] <Suhel> What versions of ubuntu right now are running on old kernel version?
[06:29] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: All
[06:29] <jasef> JoeDulin, Sorry for the delay - something came up. Still in Gnome2 atm, but what Ive seen of it is pretty awesome
[06:29] <Shirakawasuna> AngrySCV: First you figure out what it's called by using sudo fdisk -l.
[06:29] <Takyoji> http://www.xubuntu.org/getubuntu '11.04', '10.04' listed as the only options
[06:29] <sorahn> hey guys, sorry if this is the wrong channel, but what's the best (most secure) way to set up my web server so that www-data has write access and my user has write access
[06:29] <Takyoji> Although I didn't notice 10.10 hidden at the side in the news
[06:30] <GirlyGirl> sorahn: May #ubuntu-offtopic then
[06:30] <Shirakawasuna> AngrySCV: Or alternatively, you use a file manager like nautilus/whatever you're using and find on the left panel the volume
[06:30] <AngrySCV> only the main one is showing, not the slave.
[06:30] <Suhel> Girlygirl: by old I meant the ones which didn't have the powerbug
[06:30] <thenickperson> Hey, can someone please help me with an annoying software installation issue?
[06:30] <Shirakawasuna> AngrySCV: sudo fdisk -l only shows one drive?
[06:30] <Suhel> Older than 2.6.8 or something
[06:30] <AngrySCV> yes
[06:30] <Shirakawasuna> thenickperson: I can try
[06:30] <sorahn> GirlyGirl: alright thanks :)
[06:30] <PsychoX75> fullmetal: the thing that made it difficult for me is that i had too many options while mounting. I removed them all and it came like this:  UUID=DC2A169E2A1675AC /mnt/TheVault	ntfs-3g rw,nfs=utf8
[06:31] <Shirakawasuna> AngrySCV: Do you know for a fact that it should be getting recognized? Do you dualboot/did it appear when you ran a livecd?
[06:31] <PsychoX75> U guys are the best...
[06:31] <PsychoX75> ciao
[06:31] <JoeDulin> AngrySCV: Usually bad news. Either it's not plugged in right (hope for this), or there is something worse wrong. At least, that's been my experience
[06:31] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: What power bug
[06:31] <virtuelv> either way, I can't stick with Unity
[06:31] <Shirakawasuna> AngrySCV: I'm guessing you might still need to fiddle with jumper settings
[06:31] <sdz> can anyone recommend an x terminal emulator (not associated with a windows manager) that doesn't feel so primitive (like mrxvt)?
[06:31] <Takyoji> GirlyGirl: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/10/07/237222/kernel-bug-means-linux-power-usage-remains-high
[06:31] <Suhel> Girlygirl: the power regression bug
[06:31] <thenickperson> Shirakawasuna: I added a special PPA for beta releases of GIMP. I unisntalled gimp, and now I'm trying to ugprade my packages via apt-get. However, it tells me "Requires installation of untrusted packages. The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[06:31] <virtuelv> I think I'm going to give gnome-shell a longer try before I find something entirely different
[06:32] <theadmin> sdz: Try Sakura or Terminal.
[06:32] <theadmin> sdz: Yes, "Terminal" is a name of a terminal emulator, ridiculous isn't it
[06:32] <Shirakawasuna> thenickperson: ah yes, I had that issue as well
[06:32] <Suhel> Thenickperson: do a force install
[06:32] <JoeDulin> virtuelv: good luck with that
[06:32] <Shirakawasuna> thenickperson: make sure you've run sudo apt-get autoremove as well
[06:33] <thenickperson> Suhel: force install? how?
[06:33] <fullmetal> throw in a purge for good measure
[06:33] <Shirakawasuna> purge the nonbelievers
[06:33] <fullmetal> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge (packagename)
[06:33] <thenickperson> Shirakawasuna: oh, I didn't do autoremove or purge, good idea. let's try it :P
[06:33] <JoeDulin> purging is fun
[06:33] <theadmin> fullmetal: --purge comes before autoremove
[06:33] <fullmetal> does it?
[06:33] <theadmin> fullmetal: Anything after operations (install, remove, autoremove, update, upgrade) is considered a package name
[06:33] <Maccer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI -- Excuse me, what the fuck did I just watch.
[06:33] <Suhel> thenickperson: try purge first
[06:34] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131 ... says fixed ... but you can compile your own kernel
[06:34] <thenickperson> this is only deleting things I DONT need for toher packages, right?
[06:35] <fullmetal> man autoremovee
[06:35] <theadmin> thenickperson: Right
[06:35] <Suhel> Girlygirl: it says fixed. But it ain't. Read my comment Der the #191
[06:35] <theadmin> thenickperson: It's like "pacman -Rcs" if that tells you anything
[06:35] <Johnny_Giggles> Who's looking forward to 11.10?
[06:35] <fullmetal> ill look forward to it when its stable
[06:35] <theadmin> Johnny_Giggles: People in #ubuntu+1.
[06:36] <Minalien> lmfao, Maccer. XD
[06:36] <Suhel> Johnny_Giggles: me
[06:36] <thenickperson> 11.10 is awesome, I'm on the beta. :D
[06:36] <Takyoji> Yea, I've seen that one before, makes me cringe
[06:36] <Shirakawasuna> Johnny_Giggles: me. Then thunderbird will work with the indicator applet
[06:36] <Suhel> Fullmetal: by stable what do you mean?
[06:36] <thenickperson> I finished purging gimp stuff, now what?
[06:36] <cringe> Takyoji: cringe :O
[06:36] <cringe> lol
[06:36] <Suhel> I wish I'd a desktop instead of a laptop
[06:36] <Shirakawasuna> thenickperson: try updating/upgrading again
[06:36] <fullmetal> proven on more hardware... had a massive fallout with some customers running wubi when they upgraded
[06:37] <miki> the beta seems stable enough for me i'm running it now runs fine on this acer laptop anyways
[06:37] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: Well maybe you issue has nothing to do with the kernel
[06:37] <fullmetal> for some it was a conversion killer
[06:37] <Takyoji> they also did a follow up portion to that short to make the community look like it's practically 4chan; because of the people that were trolling the person's Facebook page. :P
[06:37] <Takyoji> in regards of the video
[06:38] <fullmetal> suhel: make sense?
[06:38] <Suhel> Girlygirl: please explain, my battery life has reduced 15% and it don't last more than an hour while using ubuntu
[06:38]  * Takyoji changes his username to 'and' in response to cringe
[06:38] <Suhel> fullmetal: yeah am having those problems too
[06:38] <JoeDulin> Suhel: You don't happen to have one of those laptops that has the dedicated + integrated graphics cards, do you?
[06:39] <Suhel> Fullmetal: just was confirming
[06:39] <fullmetal> gotchha
[06:39] <JoeDulin> Suhel: I.e. Intel i3 + some nVidia card
[06:39] <Suhel> Joedulin: I don't know what do you mean but I got a 1gb nvdia graphics card
[06:40] <Suhel> Joedulin: I got I5
[06:40] <thenickperson> installing gimp again through apt-get
[06:40] <JoeDulin> Suhel: And your computer says nVidia Optimus on it somewhere?
[06:40] <none> Hello i need some help
[06:40] <Suhel> It's so hard to chat with a touch screen
[06:41] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: Since when has it reduced or is this a comparison between Ubuntu and windows
[06:41] <none> I am trying to get fish to work on xchat ubuntu
[06:41] <fullmetal> hate that vid.
[06:41] <Suhel> Joedulin: how do I check it?
[06:41] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: Also a dell xps is a computer with performance over battery life
[06:41] <fullmetal> who posted
[06:41] <thenickperson> .... what the freaking hell is ubuntu's new splash screen? O_O
[06:42] <Takyoji> Maccer
[06:42] <JoeDulin> GirlyGirl: I think his problem is that Ubuntu doesn't play well with nVidia Optimus (or, dedicated + integrated graphics). I have the same problem, Ubuntu KILLS my battery
[06:42] <none>  I am trying to get fish to work on xchat ubuntu
[06:42] <Takyoji> it's their followup that annoyed me a bit more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQekFkgpFJs
[06:42] <fullmetal> yetch.
[06:42] <fullmetal> its like watching a crack addict go through withdrawls
[06:42] <talntid> i hate you......
[06:42] <talntid> I clicked a related video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=RqzXqxNiiEc
[06:43] <talntid> and now, i feel suicide upon me.
[06:43] <Takyoji> 'new splash screen' referring to the login screen or boot screen?
[06:43] <GirlyGirl> !ot Takyoji
[06:43] <JoeDulin> Suhel: If it's anything like my laptop (i3 + nVidia card), Ubuntu is only using the integrated graphics that comes with the i-whatever processors. Trouble is, your nVidia card is still drawing juice. You have to jump through hoops to turn it off
[06:43] <GirlyGirl> !ot | Takyoji
[06:43] <none> isnt this a support channel?
[06:43] <Suhel> Girlygirl: I happened to see applications after installing ubuntu and it said having battery capacity around 95% after few hours of usage it dropped to 79%
[06:44] <Minalien> none: look at the PM I sent you.
[06:44] <fullmetal> none: it is, whatcha got
[06:44] <Minalien> He's having issues getting fish to work with XChat
[06:44] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: Can you install "powertop"
[06:44] <z3ro3x> I'm trying to connect Pidgin to Facebook Chat via XMPP.  Not having much luck.  Not sure where to start to figure out why it's not working.  Could use some help.
[06:45] <Suhel> Joedulin: really? How do I disable that??
[06:45] <JoeDulin> Well, what exactly is your computer model? I'll poke around and see if that is really the problem
[06:45] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: Then run powertop from terminal
[06:46] <Suhel> Girlygirl: will you be available on Monday? It's weekend so kinda away from home I've powertop but I don't have laptop with me right now
[06:46] <Suhel> Joedulin: dell xps 15 l1520x
[06:47] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: maybe don't know
[06:47] <Suhel> Tbh I didn't have these problems on Natty
[06:48] <engineglue> the left button bar is irritating
[06:48] <Suhel> Girlygirl: I'll check out, still if you wont be available can you tell me what I need to check on powertop
[06:49] <Suhel> Engineglue: install gnome shell and use gnome desktop
[06:49] <fullmetal> or xfce or kde
[06:49]  * Suhel using andchat on android :-)
[06:49] <fullmetal> or openbox?
[06:50] <fullmetal> oh
[06:50] <t0ken> or ratpoison
[06:50] <t0ken> =)
[06:50] <engineglue> Suhel.. does that remove the button bar
[06:50] <Suhel> fullmetal: what ubuntu version are you using?
[06:50] <fullmetal> 10.10 on the normal
[06:50] <fullmetal> but #! on the mobile
[06:51] <fullmetal> its all in the debian family
[06:51] <Suhel> Engineglue: it doesn't it just gives you an option on loginscreen whether to login with unity or gnome
[06:51] <engineglue> Oh i see
[06:51] <Suhel> Fullmetal: by !# did you mean Irc?
[06:52] <engineglue> Suhel -- thanks I'll have to try it out
[06:52] <fullmetal> no
[06:52] <fullmetal> crunch bang
[06:52] <Suhel> Engineglue: :-)
[06:52] <fullmetal> debian installer with a script
[06:52] <engineglue> Suhel .. do you work on the Ubuntu team?
[06:52] <Suhel> Fullmetal: oh I've heard about it
[06:52] <fullmetal> not for the average bear but it is faster...
[06:52] <Suhel> Engineglue: no ways, I'm a newbie :-)
[06:53] <fullmetal> less package inclusion
[06:53] <engineglue> Suhel: oh okay
[06:53] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: generally on most systems battery life is less on ubuntu than windows .... batteries die out quickly you can check battery health with cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info ... I've had really bad experiences with dell batteries dying to quickly
[06:53] <engineglue> Suhel: do you code?
[06:53] <Suhel> Fullmetal: what mobile you are using
[06:53] <fullmetal> EEE pc
[06:53] <fullmetal> 1000hd
[06:53] <engineglue> GirlyGirl: I heard it has to do with CPU stepping..
[06:54] <Suhel> Girlygirl: how did you Cope up with that? It's really sad that ubuntu is hard on laptops
[06:54] <Suhel> Engineglue: no ways, I'm a mechanical engineer..  don't know anything about coding
[06:54] <Suhel> Fullmetal: ah nice :-)
[06:55] <engineglue> Suhel: Cool, so you work on robots?
[06:55] <engineglue> Suhel: :)
[06:55] <armis71> sup
[06:55] <engineglue> hello
[06:55] <fullmetal> armis
[06:55] <Suhel> Engineglue: I work on steam turbines :-)
[06:55] <fullmetal> what you got
[06:55] <armis71> just installed ubuntu with unity
[06:55] <engineglue> Suhel: cool.
[06:55] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: I don't expect a dell xps to give good life even on WIndows ... My dell batteries and that of friends die of in 2 - 2.5 years with windows itself ... this is the battery healt on my two year old ASUS ... total capacity oabove designed capacity http://paste.ubuntu.com/704756/ gives me 8 h on ubuntu and 10h on xp with wifi off
[06:56] <fullmetal> armis. questions?
[06:56] <JoeDulin> Suhel: Ok, it's hard to be sure so when you do get back to your laptop just look at all the stickers on it (assuming you didn't remove them all) and see if any say Optimus. If they do, then I can help you. I'm pretty sure it does use Optimus though, and that is where your power problems lie.
[06:56] <Suhel> Girlygirl: 8hours? Omg that's a lot
[06:57] <armis71> chkconfig is that mostly used in ubuntu?
[06:57] <Suhel> Joedulin: thanks alot :-)
[06:57] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: its a netbook EeePC 1005ha
[06:57] <fullmetal> armis71: not familiar with that command
[06:58] <armis71> GirlyGirl: cool thats what im on right now..
[06:58] <Minalien> That you expected a netbook to have a decent battery in the first place is probably the biggest problem. >.>
[06:58] <armis71> what do you use for firewall in ubuntu, aside from ufw
[06:58] <JoeDulin> GirlyGirl: On Windows I can get up to 6 hours from my Acer running very similar components as Suhel
[06:58] <fullmetal> armis71: firestarter is a good gui
[06:59] <Suhel> Girlygirl: oh that's cool,
[06:59] <fullmetal> watch incoming traffic with etherape
[06:59] <engineglue> My vostro 1500 runs for about 2 hours on ubuntu VS 4 hours on Windows 7.
[06:59] <fullmetal> and outbound
[06:59] <JoeDulin> 15", I'm an i3 he's an i5, nVidia switchable graphics. The really big difference would be the battery itself I think
[06:59] <engineglue> That's with a 9 cell battery.
[06:59] <GirlyGirl> JoeDulin: So do I on my Acer but on dell xps no. In fact I know someone's dell mini that had a battery that died in a year
[06:59] <engineglue> Intel Duo core
[06:59] <Suhel> Joedulin: am I the only one that has only 2.5 hours backup????
[07:00] <armis71> im using eeepc 1005ha also with fedora
[07:00] <Suhel> I'm scared now, my battery would die too lol
[07:00] <engineglue> Ooooh switchable graphics. I forgot about that.
[07:00] <fullmetal> eeesh fedora...
[07:00] <JoeDulin> GirlyGirl, Suhel: huh, guess they do suck. Guess you could get an after market battery Suhel
[07:00] <fullmetal> not my favorite distro
[07:00] <JoeDulin> fullmetal: agreed
[07:00] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: No I used to get 2h on my XPS m1530 C2d before the battery died
[07:01] <engineglue> you could dual boot and run windows 7 on the go.
[07:01] <JoeDulin> engineglue: switchable graphics are horrible in linux thus far.
[07:01] <fullmetal> armis71 are you set on that distro or are you looking for something better
[07:01] <RobbieCrash> should this work as a cron job? "@reboot sleep 60; zfs mount ZFS"
[07:01] <Suhel> Girlygirl: what battery you replaced after it? Original dell or some other?
[07:01] <butteredpopcorn> how do i download libstdc++3?
[07:01] <engineglue> Joe: that's what i've heard
[07:01] <engineglue> Joe: very sad.
[07:01] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprohardware/thread/c6c043e6-eeb1-4e61-870d-896ca2f865d6
[07:01] <Suhel> Joedulin: yupz I guess so
[07:02] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: I did not replace it as like I said a Dell XPS is not like a portable thing to use on the go ... its like a desktop replacement
[07:02] <JoeDulin> engineglue: Yeah, typically it's either eat battery life and use a kind of hacked X or use only integrated
[07:02] <armis71> fullmetal: thats what i have on my netbook but i got centOS, ubuntu, mint, redhat on virtual machines
[07:02] <armis71> fullmetal: so im still shopping
[07:02] <Minalien> Popcorn: have you tried sudo apt-get install libstdc++3" ?
[07:02] <fullmetal> ubuntu alternate is ok if you want encryption but i like #! for speed
[07:02] <engineglue> Joe: I suppose you could also run integrated primarily and reboot for dedicated when needed.
[07:03] <armis71> fullmetal: im not used to debian and apt-get
[07:03] <Suhel> Girlygirl: looks like I Made a bad choice going for xps lol
[07:03] <fullmetal> armis71: could be worth it... package support is better
[07:03] <GirlyGirl> Suhel: Sometimes I wonder if its on purpose as Dell writes on the battery "by new batteries at Http://dell.com
[07:03] <GirlyGirl> buy
[07:04] <popcorn> Minalien: im not a sudo user
[07:04] <JoeDulin> engineglue: Yeah. You can turn the dedicated card on and off, but I haven't tried combining the two. Don't see a problem with it though because I have to run a command to even use my nVidia card
[07:04] <nixmaniack> i want to enable multitouch on my new Asus K53S laptop? Where do I start?
[07:04] <Suhel> My phone battery is dying bye Girlygirl Joedulin fullmetal and engineglue
[07:04] <qa> hi
[07:04] <armis71> fullmetal:  apt-get?  im trying to get used to it
[07:04] <qa> 大家好
[07:04] <Suhel> Girlygirl: lmao so true
[07:04] <fullmetal> suhel: later
[07:05] <RobbieCrash> should this work as a cron job, it's in the crontab for root? "@reboot sleep 60; zfs mount ZFS"
[07:05] <JoeDulin> Suhel: Good luck. When will you be back to your laptop?
[07:05] <engineglue> Suhel: bye
[07:05] <engineglue> Good night everyone
[07:05] <engineglue> Im out
[07:05] <llutz_> RobbieCrash: cron-syntax sound right, so if your zfs.. works it should. you should consider using full pathes in cronjobs
[07:05] <popcorn> Minalien: it says cannot find any package named libstdc++3
[07:05] <fullmetal> armis71: sudo apt-get install / remove (package name)
[07:06] <JoeDulin> night engine
[07:06] <Suhel> Joedulin: tomorrow evening according to my time,  like after1 day and 8hours
[07:06] <popcorn> is there a online file directory for libstdc++3?
[07:06] <RobbieCrash> llutz so do @reboot sleep 60; /sbin/zfs mount ZFS?
[07:07] <llutz_> RobbieCrash: to be on the safe side, yes. cron runs in a limited environment, so you have to make sure binaries were found
[07:07] <RobbieCrash> ok, thanks
[07:08] <JoeDulin> ok, i'm out guys. have a nice night
[07:08] <fullmetal> popcorn: missing package?
[07:08] <fullmetal> try
[07:08] <fullmetal> http://www.digitalsanctum.com/2007/01/28/libstdc-libc62-2so3-on-ubuntu/
[07:09] <popcorn> fullmetal: the package i need though is libstdc++.so.3
[07:09] <RobbieCrash> is there a way to measure peak RAM usage long term? Like, over the course of a month?
[07:10] <fullmetal> popcorn: check the url, the library is contained within the package
[07:10] <Olotila> Is there a HDD benchmark similar to CrystalDiskMark
[07:11] <Olotila> I tested in windows, would be interesting to see ubuntu server comparison
[07:11] <punto> hi.. how do I open a .dmg file? can I mount it?
[07:11] <llutz_> punto: you have to convert it into iso
[07:11] <GirlyGirl> punto: Isn't dmg for OS X
[07:11] <popcorn> fullmetal: couldn't find any package by regex
[07:12] <theadmin> punto: It's an OS X disk image... You have to convert it into an ISO, but it'll be useless altogether on Linux
[07:12] <Olotila> Disk Utility shows cache results
[07:12] <Olotila> http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/10/28101590141-orig.jpg
[07:12] <fullmetal> punto: http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/01/23/ubuntu-quicktip-converting-max-dmg-images-into-iso-images/
[07:12] <fullmetal> popcorn: distro?
[07:12] <Olotila> this is what crystaldiskmark shows in windows
[07:12] <RudyValencia> How is Linux related to Unix?
[07:12] <Olotila> http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/10/28103022752-orig.jpg
[07:12] <fullmetal> unix + linus torvalds = linux
[07:13] <fullmetal> ok ok and stallman
[07:13] <llutz_> RudyValencia: see wikipedia, offtopic here
[07:13] <popcorn> i need to download it on ubuntu so i can ftp to a freebsd shell
[07:13] <Entelin> unix is kinda a vauge term,  taken specifically it would mean att's unix.  everything else is "unix like" including linux
[07:14] <Entelin> so linux is "unix like" just like every other unix
[07:14] <ripper003> looking to run thunderbird as a background process so on startup I get any new mail notifications I might have?
[07:14] <Entelin> at least as far as the comparison is relevent of course.  theres vastly more software for linux
[07:14] <none> anyone here use fish with xchat?
[07:15] <ntaiyl> how do i list the usb's connected to the computer constantly?  I know lsusb lists them, but i want it to keep running so that i can see what i attached
[07:15] <theadmin> ntaiyl: watch -n 1 lsusb
[07:15] <popcorn> fullmetal: i am not a sudo user on my freebsd shell so i cant apt get the package if i can download it as a zip that would be great
[07:15] <ntaiyl> theadmin: thanks :)
[07:15] <llutz_> ntaiyl: watch (-n xx) lsusb
[07:16] <fullmetal> popcorn brb
[07:17] <AngrySCV> Thanks for the help. It was a bad connection to the drive.
[07:17] <allu2> good morning, who can i help? :P
[07:17] <fullmetal> popcorn: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/3/limit/3/srodzaj/1/dl/40/search/libstdc%2B%2B-libc6.2-2.so.3/field%5B%5D/1/field%5B%5D/2
[07:18] <theadmin> allu2: lol
[07:18] <lassekongo83> Anyone here good at javascript? I need to get 2 simple gnome-shell-extensions to work for 3.2. :P
[07:18] <dskw> i do have a question. :p when selecting multiple files within nautilus, and checking the properties, i'd like to see the total size in 2 decimal points (for example, 3.59 GB). is there any setting for this?
[07:18] <popcorn> fullmetal: which one do i download?
[07:19] <fullmetal> what matches your distro?
[07:19] <fullmetal> depends on the target machine
[07:19] <AngrySCV> any idea how to make wake on lan work? Can the computer be shutdown entirely, or does it have to be in hibernate (or even sleep). My router has tomato and I believe it is set up for wol correctly. The bios is set to wol.
[07:20] <popcorn> fullmetal: freebsd
[07:20] <fullmetal> angrySCV: its like magic packets. the network card has to be listening
[07:20] <fullmetal> specific series of packets is sent and the card wakes up the machine
[07:21] <allu2> AngrySCV: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[07:21] <fullmetal> popcorn: they try http://ftp6.ua.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/misc/fbsd-compat/
[07:22] <ntaiyl> hi guys, wanted some help, tried a lot of things, can't seem to use my printer :(
[07:22]  * popcorn <3 fullmetal 
[07:22] <ntaiyl> I have a canon lbp2900B printer. I installed the drivers mentioned on the site (cndrvcups-capt and cndrvcups-common_2.30).
[07:22] <ntaiyl> Now the printer is connected, I installed it via the GUI, and using lpstat the printer does show.
[07:22] <ntaiyl> Now whenever I give a printing job it doesn't print. What do I do
[07:22] <fullmetal> popcorn: what is <3
[07:23] <HighOfficer_Bles> hello
[07:23] <dskw> heart, or love :p
[07:23] <fullmetal> ty
[07:23] <HighOfficer_Bles> jaga jaga jaga
[07:23] <ntaiyl> anyone?
[07:23] <HighOfficer_Bles> yea yea yea
[07:23] <fullmetal> ntaiyl: elaborate
[07:23] <fullmetal> model, distro
[07:23] <HighOfficer_Bles> 11.10
[07:24] <HighOfficer_Bles> server
[07:24] <ntaiyl> fullmetal: printer
[07:24] <ntaiyl> which info do you want me to put here?
[07:24] <fullmetal> is it an hp
[07:24] <fullmetal> ?
[07:24] <fullmetal> and what os are you using
[07:24] <fullmetal> ubuntu 10.10?
[07:24] <fullmetal> 11.04?
[07:24] <ntaiyl> I have a canon lbp2900B printer. I installed the drivers mentioned on the site (cndrvcups-capt and cndrvcups-common_2.30).
[07:25] <ntaiyl>  Now the printer is connected, I installed it via the GUI, and using lpstat the printer does show.
[07:25] <ntaiyl> ubunutu 10.10
[07:26] <fullmetal> ntaiyl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645839
[07:26] <ntaiyl> fullmetal:
[07:27] <ntaiyl> fullmetal: I've done that. The drivers are installed and the printer does show up. It is connected. The printing also takes in job queues, just keeps them in a processing state and does not print
[07:28] <fullmetal> reboot after the install?
[07:28] <fullmetal> @ntaiyl
[07:28] <ntaiyl> fullmetal: yup.
[07:28] <fullmetal> 3 times?
[07:28] <fullmetal> just kidding
[07:28] <AngrySCV> I'm entering the command in double quotes and receiving the message in single quotes "sudo ethtool -s eth0 wol g"  'Cannot get current wake-on-lan settings: Operation not supported  not setting wol' does this mean that I can't do wake on lan with this card? Typing sudo ethtool eth0 gives me a "no data available" error.
[07:29] <fullmetal> can you see any errors by entering dmesg in the terminal
[07:29] <allu2> AngrySCV: did you enable it in bios?
[07:29] <AngrySCV> yes
[07:29] <fullmetal> if its on in bios then the card supports it
[07:30] <AngrySCV> it is not an onboard ethernet card (it's too old)
[07:30] <fullmetal> then bios wont help that card
[07:30] <AngrySCV> it's in one of the pci slots if I've got my terms right
[07:30] <popcorn> fullmetal: its downloaded as libstdc++.so.3.i386.20040525    what do i do with that?
[07:31] <allu2> AngrySCV: you have enabled wake up from USB/PCI
[07:31] <allu2> ?
[07:31] <AngrySCV> if it's in the bios they yes
[07:31] <AngrySCV> then not they
[07:32] <allu2> AngrySCV: the part "Using a non integrated NIC" should be useful
[07:32] <mikunos> Hi guys, I need a little help to solve  an audio problem in my box. I have tried to set Amarok in my gnome distro and after the reboot the audio is disappeared! Why?
[07:33] <fullmetal> popcorn: not teribly familiar with freebsd. but this may help
[07:33] <fullmetal> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports.html
[07:33] <allu2> mikunos: is pulseaudio alive?
[07:34] <mikunos> allu2 Daemon already running.
[07:34] <allu2> you can get to volume control?
[07:34] <mikunos> yes
[07:34] <mikunos> all volume are up
[07:34] <allu2> hmm so it should be ok..
[07:34] <allu2> surely no mute box activated?
[07:35] <mikunos> yes of course :)
[07:35] <allu2> pastebin output of dmesg
[07:35] <mikunos> Amarok and Rythmbox seems play the audio without sound
[07:35] <allu2> mikunos: can you hear any sound ?
[07:36] <allu2> mikunos: or is it just the amarok and rythmbox
[07:36] <mikunos> no any sound
[07:37] <mikunos> I can't hear nothing
[07:37] <mikunos> this is my dmesg http://pastie.org/2664492
[07:38] <fullmetal> mikunos: http://www.mygnulinux.com/?p=129
[07:38] <fullmetal> you may be missing a dependency
[07:39] <mikunos> fullmetal I can't hear any sound, system sound included. After adding these libraries and reboot the system the audio is disappeared ---> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg phonon-backend-xine
[07:40] <fullmetal> go into sound prefrences and change the default mixer...
[07:40] <mikunos> done
[07:40] <mikunos> no result
[07:40] <fullmetal> hmmm
[07:40] <mikunos> I have tested all the mixer
[07:40] <miki> reboot?
[07:40] <mikunos> done too
[07:40] <allu2> mikunos: you have more then one audio device?
[07:40] <mikunos> yes and checked both
[07:41] <fullmetal> double check the plugs?
[07:41] <mikunos> ok
[07:41] <mikunos> let me check them again
[07:41] <fullmetal> its happened to the best of us... just wierd for it to all go out like that and then "play" with no error codes
[07:41] <mikunos> the main audio device is: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[07:42] <mikunos> exactly
[07:42] <mikunos> no errors appears
[07:43] <mikunos> I am playing a mp3 with rythmbox and it doesn't play any sound
[07:43] <mikunos> it's strange
[07:43] <fullmetal> does it rush through the track
[07:43] <allu2> mikunos: in the output tab of sound preferences, what there reads as "connector"
[07:43] <fullmetal> or play at normal speed
[07:43] <fullmetal> ?
[07:44] <mikunos> yes nomal speed
[07:44] <fullmetal> ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[07:44] <mikunos> seems that  the music play as usual
[07:44] <mikunos> but witout sound
[07:45] <mikunos>  allu2: Analog Stereo Duplex
[07:45] <mikunos> sorry Analog Speakers
[07:45] <miki> kinda reminds me when my sound card went out on me on an integraded ibm desktop :P
[07:45] <Atharva> Hi....how can I know that where is my usb flash drive mounted ? (I want to know the mount point)
[07:45] <allu2> mikunos: does changing it give any results
[07:46] <mikunos> nothing
[07:46] <allu2> Atharva: i guess in /media
[07:46] <mikunos> If I change it nothing change
[07:46] <fullmetal> atharva: usually in /mnt or /media
[07:47] <Atharva> allu2 fullmetal : In terminal which command to type ?
[07:47] <fullmetal> cd /mnt or  cd /media
[07:47] <allu2> Atharva: cd /media + tab
[07:48] <mikunos> fullmetal allu2 the sound is inside the headphone!!!!
[07:48] <allu2> well i'm off for now
[07:48] <fullmetal> mikunos: then its solved....
[07:49] <mikunos> not in the speakers!
[07:49] <fullmetal> external perp
[07:50] <fullmetal> allu2: bis spater!
[07:51] <mikunos> solved!
[07:51] <mikunos> the female jack!
[07:52] <none> anyone use fish in xchat?
[07:52] <Ben64> <---
[07:53] <Atharva> allu2  : I am in cli and want to open usb which I plugged in...any idea ?
[07:53] <Ben64> cd /media/<flashdrive>
[07:54] <qin> Atharva: mount; or: sudo fdisk -l
[07:54] <qin> Atharva: or: df -h
[07:54] <GirlyGirl> Atharva: sudo mount /dev/device /path/to/mountpoint
[07:54] <GirlyGirl> Atharva: then cd /path/to/mountpoint
[07:55] <root> hello
[07:55] <Atharva> GirlyGirl , qin : Thanks a lot...that was what I was searching for.. :)
[07:56] <Atharva> GirlyGirl : I m back 2 ubuntu  ;)
[07:57] <AngrySCV> power on through usb and pci are on in bios just like the non integrated Nci instructions say to check, and there is nowhere to connect a power cable onto the card so it isn't that it needs power form the power supply while the computer is off. I appreciate your help so far allu2.
[07:57] <karex> Is there any difference in writing shell script between ubuntu, solaris, and max os?
[07:57] <fullmetal> out for tonight
[07:58] <fullmetal> Cheers!
[07:58] <Tetsuo55> Hello, i have been suffering from a problem where the computer gets slower and slower over time, after 2-3 days everything will lag badly and sometimes the lag takes so long that apps crash and wifi disconnects
[07:58] <Tetsuo55> my computer is now in this laggy mode, what can i do to troubleshoot the cause?
[07:59] <qin> karex: You mean bash? Minor differences, if any. bash can be 100% portable if you want.
[08:00] <popcorn> i have downloaded a new shared library how do i use it with my program that needs it?
[08:02] <freifahr1> hi all
[08:05] <freifahr1> are questions about hardware, a netbook and using ubuntu on it in specific, ok in this channel or is there a better place to ask?
[08:05] <Atharva> GirlyGirl : And what if I want to unmount it ?
[08:06] <llutz_> popcorn: put it into /usr/local/lib (make sure its inyour ld.so.conf*) and run "sudo ldconfig -a"
[08:06] <qin> Atharva: sudo umount /mount/path/
[08:06] <popcorn> llutz_: what if i dont have sudo privs or access to /usr
[08:06] <jester-> Atharva: sudo umont /path/to/mountpoint
[08:06] <raju> is there any difference between gnome and gnome-do
[08:06] <Tetsuo55> here is my TOP output: http://pastebin.com/x3FcW63M
[08:07] <qin> raju: Yes.
[08:07] <raju> qin could you please give me more info
[08:07] <qin> !info gnome > raju
[08:07] <qin> !info gnome-do > raju
[08:08] <raju> thank you qin
[08:08] <llutz_> popcorn: maybe setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH on the dir you put the lib in would work, idk
[08:08] <popcorn> llutz_: how would i implement that?
[08:08] <raju> qin,  which one is best ?
[08:09] <raju> qin,  oh no no now i got it
[08:10] <llutz_> popcorn: try "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/wherever/your/lib/is  yourbinary-to-run"
[08:10] <qin> raju: ok, gnome is your desktop (as you see it) with all fancy stuff, gnome-do is optional fancy stuff.
[08:10] <Atharva> qin : for example if I mounted a fs on /home, ie  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /home  , Is it correct
[08:11] <ThinkT510> Atharva: you should mount to a seperate directory (preferable one that is empty)
[08:11] <qin> Atharva: mounting in /home is not correct, but you got idea right. sudo mkdir /media/myusb && sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/myusb
[08:11] <ThinkT510> Atharva: first make sure the directory exists
[08:12] <Atharva> ThinkT510 qin : Let me try..
[08:12] <mao> /et/securetty文件里的Embedded Freescale i.MX ports是什么啊，可以注释掉吗
[08:12] <ThinkT510> !zh | mao
[08:12] <qin> !cn | mao
[08:13] <mao> I' sorry没看清楚频道
[08:14] <arewenotmen67> !list
[08:14] <Atharva> qin : Now the fs has mounted..now what to cd /... ?
[08:15] <qin> Atharva: cd /media/myusb; ls -l
[08:15] <AngrySCV> So can anyone help me with wake on lan if I've already followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan. The errors I'm getting when typing the commands say that no data is avaliable about eth0, the non integrated NIC
[08:15] <freifahrt> i'm thinking about purchasing the Toshiba AC100-10v. 512MB on board RAM, 1GHz Tegra250 cpu. it comes with a customised Android2.2. In case this OS is not to my liking will it be possible to install ubuntu on this hardware?
[08:15] <Atharva> qin : ok mkdir creates a dir..how to delete it ?
[08:16] <ThinkT510> Atharva: don't delete it if it is in use, first you should unmount
[08:16] <qin> Atharva: *After you unmount usb* : sudo rm -r /media/myusb
[08:17] <GirlyGirl> Atharva: umount /dev/device
[08:18] <ThinkT510> GirlyGirl: you missed sudo
[08:18] <GirlyGirl> ThinkT510: Atharva sudo umount /dev/device
[08:19] <Atharva> GirlyGirl ThinkT510 qin : When I try to unmount , it says device is busy...I am not at all using it..what to do ?
[08:19] <GirlyGirl> Atharva: Its because the device is well busy
[08:20] <GirlyGirl> Atharva: Some background process is using it
[08:20] <Jordan_U> qin: Atharva: Fo deleting directories that should be empty "rmdir" is safer.
[08:20] <GirlyGirl> Atharva: Try cd'ing out of the directory
[08:20] <ThinkT510> Atharva: have you opened anything from the usb?
[08:20] <qin> Atharva: leave usb directory
[08:21] <qin> Jordan_U: Thx, noted.
[08:21] <Jordan_U> qin: You're welcome.
[08:21] <Atharva> qin : Great.....I was in cd myusb :P
[08:23] <LemonAid> From my Ububtu running laptop, i`m connected to my win 7 pc, with Netcat, and i am in a CMD shell. From that shell, i`m trying to start a new Netcat server, but i get "'nc' is not recognised as an internal or external command..".  (wrong place to ask?)
[08:24] <sammy> erm an easy one, trying to help a friend who is using kde, she's trying to run kate to edit a file she needs root for. whats the kde equiv to gksudo?
[08:24] <ActionPa1snip> sammy: kdesudo
[08:24] <Atharva> qin : Is it the same procedure to mount cd-dvd ?
[08:25] <sammy> ActionPa1snip: danke
[08:25] <qin> Atharva: It is time to: man mount. All examples are there.
[08:25] <ThinkT510> Atharva: unless they get automatically mounted, yes
[08:27] <GirlyGirl> sammy: Though "kdesu" would be more recommended
[08:27] <llutz_> LemonAid: you'll need to install netcat/nc on your w7-pc too
[08:27] <sgs2_usr> anyone can help on the bluetooth-applet?
[08:27] <sammy> GirlyGirl: to run kate? 'kdesu kate' like so?
[08:27] <GirlyGirl> sammy: Yes
[08:28] <sammy> relayed, danke
[08:29] <ActionPa1snip> GirlyGirl: there is no kdesu here
[08:29] <Atharva> GirlyGirl ThinkT510 qin : Thanks  :) ..Will trouble you again if I struck somewhere :P
[08:29] <ActionPa1snip> GirlyGirl: kdesudo is though
[08:29] <sgs2_usr> who can help me on the docking statino issue with my HP EliteBook 8540w?
[08:30] <LemonAid> llutz_: It`s installed, since i am connecting trough Netcat.
[08:30] <llutz_> LemonAid: but not in your PATH, so call it with full path. sry no idea how windows handles this
[08:32] <GirlyGirl> ActionPa1snip: No "kdesu" on Kubuntu ?? That is weird
[08:33] <qin> !info kdesu
[08:34] <sammy> would anyone running natty with apt-key installed be kind enough to install debian-archive-keyring and tell me if the post install script properly runs apt-key and adds the key? the docs for debian-archive-keyring says it should run apt-key to add the key if it exists, but its not working here, and I figured I'd check before filing a bug :)
[08:34] <john_rambo> this is a fresh ubuntu install ....when i click on pulse audio volume control ..it says "connection refused"
[08:35] <sammy> john_rambo: have you tried rebooting? I had the same issues, but a reboot solved it. there are many possible causes, unfortunately.
[08:35] <mao> I cannot use tab key to complete my command,for example,"sudo modproe",i cannot complete the "modproe"
[08:36] <ThinkT510> mao: do you mean sudo modprobe?
[08:36] <LemonAid> llutz_:I figured it might be that so i browsed to where i put it and, i wanted to start it from there but can not, see it in the listed items in the cmd shell (the one my original nc connection lands me in). I will try to add it to the PATH explicitly, see if that changes anything, it might just be it.
[08:36] <qin> mao: sudo modp<TAB>
[08:37] <mao> ThinkT510: yes，what's wrong.
[08:37] <john_rambo> sammy, This home dir was used by other distros ...do you think deleting the .pulse can help ? I will reboot
[08:37] <mao> qin: when i enter <TAB>,there is no reaction
[08:37] <ThinkT510> mao: look at what you typed then look at what i typed
 is the tabkey - used for filename completion. :)
[08:38] <sammy> john_rambo: it may definitely help, in fact. you may want to just mv it to .pulse-bak in case you want to keep any settings, and that doesnt solve the issue
[08:38] <llutz_> mao to what do you expect "modproe" to expand?
[08:39] <john_rambo> sammy, Roger
[08:39] <mao> ThinkT510: I entered "sudo modp<TAB>",there is no reaction
[08:39] <dr_willis> mao:  you are using the Tab Key and not entering <tab> ?
[08:40] <ThinkT510> mao: you don't type <Tab>, that is the key you press on your keyboard
[08:40] <sammy> mao: I believe its possible that, as a regular user, the 'modprobe' binary is not in your path, so bash doesn't think to complete it for you, as it would for root.
[08:40] <qin> mao: enter: "whoam" and press TAB
[08:40] <Atharva> hello... how to quit vim editor ?
[08:40] <dr_willis> tab key completion for modprobe works here. but it  has like 3000+ possibilities.
[08:40] <qin> Atharva: :q
[08:41] <sammy> mao: if you can get whoami to tab complete, try `which modprobe`
[08:41] <ben_unity> Atharva, Esc, :wq
[08:41] <dr_willis> Atharva:  esc key, :wq to save.
[08:41] <ben_unity> Or Esc :q!
[08:41] <sammy> dr_willis: it worked for me as well, but /sbin is in my path.
[08:41] <dr_willis> !info vimtutor
[08:41] <ThinkT510> Atharva: use nano next time
[08:41] <dr_willis> !vim
[08:41] <mao> sammy: i can press tab to complete modp(without sudo append)
[08:42] <qin> ThinkT510: Yeah, nano is so intuitive ;)
[08:42] <mao> sammy: echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[08:42] <RobbieCrash> my load averages are 40.54/32.98/20.81 but I've been watching top for the last 10 minutes, and nothing has been using any significant amount of CPU. system has 50%usagee, and idle shows 50%. How can I pinpoint my problem?
[08:43] <ben_unity> You could try 'top'
[08:43] <ThinkT510> qin: i like nano, you can probably tell i don't code much with text editors
[08:43] <RobbieCrash> ben_unity I've been watching top for the last ten minutes. That's where I got that information from.
 : How to quit nao ? for exit its written ^X ..
[08:44] <Atharva> nano*
[08:44] <ben_unity> Ah, ok
[08:44] <ThinkT510> Atharva: ^ means ctrl
[08:44] <ben_unity> Atharva, Ctrl-X
[08:44] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: CTRL+X, Press Y to save or N to not save then press ENTER (if you want to save)
[08:44] <Atharva> Thanks all...
[08:44] <ben_unity> ps -ef? Then find something to order the column with the CPU in?
[08:45] <dr_willis> the whole 'what does ^x mean' is one reason i really have a hard time reccomending nano to beginners. :) If they had Fkeys listed down there.. that would make it easier.
[08:45] <sammy> mao: odd, you can tab complete it without sudo? have you run sudo yet as this user?
[08:45] <ActionPa1snip> dr_willis: its easier than vi with its stupid command mode nonesense
[08:46] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: it is likely the only thing you need to explain to people using nano
[08:46] <Atharva> dr_willis> : then nano is better for me..
[08:46] <dr_willis> ActionPa1snip:  i dont find vi stupid at all.. but i HAVE seen some easier console editors then nano :)  saw one that definatly had nice obvious ways to save and so forth.
[08:46] <qin> mao: sudo who
[08:46] <mao> sammy: Yes,i have ever
[08:47] <iceroot> dr_willis: vi is bad and not easy, vim is good and much easier
[08:47] <GirlyGirl> dr_willis: ActionPa1snip I agree nano is the easiest terminal editior to use
[08:47] <sammy> RobbieCrash: there's also other various top alternatives. I prefer htop. load averages refer to how many processes are currently running, not how much CPU they're using, right? its possible you have 40 processes in the 'running' state, but theyre only using 50% cpu
[08:47]  * ThinkT510 doesn't want to see an editor war thread start
[08:47] <dr_willis> :)
[08:48] <dr_willis> i cant recall where i saw that clone of the old dos edit at.. some disrto i tested once.
[08:48] <sammy> mao: I'm at a loss. sorry, but it seems you may have a point to google from. i would google for pages describing tab completion working, but not when after typing sudo.
[08:48] <ActionPa1snip> dr_willis: the command mode is a bit awkward, I've found nano to be childishly simple, all except for save with is ^O for write (o)ut rather than ^S for (s)ave
[08:49] <qin> dr_willis: Imagine irc client with vim key bindings.
[08:49] <ThinkT510> SideSW1PE: what are you doing?
[08:49] <SideSW1PE> um... doing what? oO
[08:49] <Atharva> Ok..I have installed ubuntu server invirtualbox..Now i need to install guest additions..How to do that ?
[08:49] <sammy> mao: hopefully someone's posted an ubuntu forum post describing that exact behavior :)
[08:49] <ThinkT510> * Received a CTCP -n ACTION CTCP's disabled on this client. Problem? from SideSW1PE
[08:49] <mao> sammy: thank you always
[08:49] <SideSW1PE> lol wtf
[08:49] <RobbieCrash> sammy everything in top aside from top is stating 0 in the CPU column.
[08:49]  * SideSW1PE test
[08:49] <SideSW1PE> hm...
[08:49] <SideSW1PE> idk lol
[08:49] <SideSW1PE> ive set some kind of ctcp faker
[08:49] <SideSW1PE> i guess its failing
[08:50] <FloodBot1> SideSW1PE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <hid3> Good morning everyone. Any ideas who is responsible for the ISO downloader page of ubuntu.com?
[08:50] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: http://media.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/07/virtualbox-install-guest-additions.png
[08:50] <sammy> RobbieCrash: no offense if you knew, but have you pressed a capital P while running top to sort by CPU usage?
[08:50] <SideSW1PE> disabled :)
[08:50] <sammy> RobbieCrash: otherwise I believe top sorts by another column by default
[08:50] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: I suggest (after it downloads) that you power off the vbox, set the guest additions ISO to be 'insesrted' at boot and then you can run the script to install the additions
[08:51] <RobbieCrash> sammy yes, it's sorting by CPU.
[08:51] <Atharva> ActionPa1snip : Which script to run ? I am in cli..
[08:51] <RobbieCrash> top is at 1, kworker/1:1 is sometimes also at 1, but everything else is 0
[08:51] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: the same as if you were in the desktop OS
[08:52] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: when you mount the disk, you'll see what's what
[08:54] <sammy> RobbieCrash: running something like ps -ef and examining the output may clue you in. a load of 40 should be obvious, but if your cpu is only at 50%, maybe the processes have been niced, to run in the background
[08:55] <sammy> RobbieCrash: I'm at a loss, sorry
[08:56] <RobbieCrash> I think it's actually a deadlock problem with my zfs pool.
[08:56] <RobbieCrash> Thanks anyhow sammy
[08:57] <Atharva> Ok..Is there any way so that when I start my computer , it should to log on to tty1 (tui) instaed of tty7 (gui ?
[08:58] <ThinkT510> Atharva: what for?
[08:58] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: server doesn't have GUI
[08:58] <llutz_> !nox |Atharva:
 : I am talking about the standard desktop version
[08:59] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: if you power of the virtualbox after you complete the ISO download and set it to be mounted like you mounted your ubuntu ISO, it will be accessible
[08:59] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva> Ok..I have installed ubuntu server invirtualbox..Now i need to install guest additions..How to do that ?
[08:59] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: which is it?
[09:00] <Atharva> ActionPa1snip : Vbox 4.0.12 and ubuntu 10.10 server..
[09:00] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: then its server, no desktop
[09:00] <mao> i know what's the problem.when i installed my ubuntu,i uninstall a lot of packages,but i donot which package exectly
[09:01] <mao> don't know
[09:01] <l00pb4ck> hi, how do i autologin to gnome3 instead of gnome2 session?
[09:01] <ThinkT510> l00pb4ck: not supported on 11.04 and under
[09:01] <l00pb4ck> i'm on 11.10
 :Actually, the host system is desktop..and I want it my host to log in in tui... ( vbox ubuntu server is diffrent question..)
[09:01] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: mount the additions ISO when you power on the server and it will mount for you
[09:01] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | l00pb4ck
[09:02] <ActionPa1snip> l00pb4ck: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric stuffs
[09:02] <l00pb4ck> ok thanks :)
[09:02] <ActionPa1snip> l00pb4ck: read the channel message when you log in, it says it there....
[09:02] <ThinkT510> l00pb4ck: also gnome2 isn't in 11.10
[09:03] <l00pb4ck> ThinkT510:  i meant unity
[09:03] <ActionPa1snip> l00pb4ck: still only supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[09:04] <l00pb4ck> yeah i got it
[09:04] <l00pb4ck> thanks
 : Ok ..I have started ubuntu server and I think guest addn is mounted..now how to check it ?
[09:04] <MeirD> Helo
[09:05] <monty_muc> Hello together, does someone know where to download the outdated sun-java5-jdk ?
[09:05] <glitchd> anybody know anything about virtualbox?
[09:05] <MeirD> Hello.. Is there anyway I can open a tgz file in some kind of an editor (say less) without having to decompress it everytime?
[09:05] <ActionPa1snip> Atharva: run:  mount    should show it as mounted
[09:05] <MeirD> (that is, some kind of a program that does it automatically)
[09:05] <llutz_> MeirD: zless
[09:05] <ThinkT510> !anyone | glitchd
[09:05] <heoa_> I need to remove iwl3945 Realtek 802.11n Wlan driver, any cmd suggestions?
[09:05] <MeirD> awesome thnx!
[09:06] <ThinkT510> heoa_: iwl3945 is intel not realtek
[09:06] <ActionPa1snip> heoa_: sudo modprobe -r iwl3945    will unload it, you can blacklist it and it will not load at boot
[09:07] <heoa_> ThinkT510: well I have Realtek driver and inter driver side-by-side, actually two drivers and they intercept one another
[09:07] <l00pb4ck> how can i run a python script before logon?
[09:07] <ActionPa1snip> heoa_: blacklist the iwl3945   and it will not load
[09:07] <dr_willis> l00pb4ck:  a script that does what exactly?
[09:07] <glitchd> im having a problem with virtualbox, i just started a web page and am hosting the server and the webpage from the virtual machine. my problem is that it appears as if the virtual machine is not online. it will not let me connect to any other website. I also have another virtual machine that does connect to the net. I have tried making all the setting match within the network options, but still nothing. help please.
[09:07] <ActionPa1snip> l00pb4ck: your release isn't supoported here
[09:07] <l00pb4ck> sabnzbd to be specific
[09:08] <heoa_> ActionPa1snip: cmd?
 : I think it will take time for me to understand..Got to go now..
[09:08] <ActionPa1snip> !blacklist | heoa_
[09:08] <l00pb4ck> ActionPa1snip: it's a general q
[09:08] <ActionPa1snip> l00pb4ck: its relating to Oneiric, Oneiric isn't supported here
[09:08] <ThinkT510> l00pb4ck: you are running 11.10, go to #ubuntu+1
[09:09] <l00pb4ck> i'm on 11.04 right now
[09:09] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, know anything about virtualbox that may help my problem?
[09:09] <dr_willis> !info sabnzbd
[09:09] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, 2 virtual machines, 1 connects and browses the net, the other does not.
[09:10] <l00pb4ck> i had sabnzbd for along time
[09:10] <heoa_> ActionPa1snip: how to know whether blacklisting iwl3945 will blacklist the Realtek version or the other...I would like to blacklist the realtek wlan driver...
[09:10] <ActionPa1snip> glitchd: can the one that cannot browse the web ping 8.8.8.8?
[09:10] <l00pb4ck> sabnzbdplus is the name of the package
[09:10] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, ill findout now
[09:10] <heoa_> ActionPa1snip: I installed the realtek wlan driver manually but forgot it...
[09:11] <monty_muc> Does someone have sun-java5-jdk on his harddrive?
[09:11] <Atharva> My question last is : When I start my computer (ubuntu 10.10 Desktop),it starts gui on tty7 and takes me to tty7 (default)..How can I start in tty1  ie text user?
[09:11] <ActionPa1snip> heoa_: blacklisting iwl13945 will make THAT module not load, the iwl3945 does not drive a realtek chip, it is an intel driver
[09:11] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, glitchd@glitchnet:~$ ping 8.8.8.8
[09:11] <glitchd> connect: Network is unreachable
[09:11] <ThinkT510> heoa_: then you have to remove it manually
[09:11] <under> Hi. Why does ubuntu's characters suck? It's impossibile to read. Watch this out: http://i.imgur.com/0F0sL.png
[09:11] <dr_willis> stuff you want to start befor a user logs in. that dont use a X interface. can be ran from the /etc/rc.local file - or you can try to make a upstart script for them.
[09:11] <ActionPa1snip> glitchd: does the troublesome VM get an IP via DHCP?
[09:11] <heoa_> ActionPa1snip: ThinkT510 any idea how to find out what the Realtek wlan driver is called?
[09:12] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, i have no idea, nor do i know how to find out..
[09:12] <taglass> glitchd: You might also try #vbox
[09:12] <ActionPa1snip> glitchd: could set the network to a bridged mode and get an IP from your router
[09:12] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, its running as a nat right now, it was working, then just stopped.
[09:13] <sammy> would anyone running natty with apt-key installed be kind enough to install debian-archive-keyring and tell me if the post install script properly runs apt-key and adds the key? the docs for debian-archive-keyring says it should run apt-key to add the key if it exists, but its not working here, not adding the key, but not giving an error, either. I was hoping to see if it was just me.
[09:14] <Atharva> Thankyou everyone..bye :)
[09:14] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, im running the lxde desktop, so i am pretty lost in this. im used to gnome.
[09:15] <under> Hi. Why does ubuntu's characters suck? It's impossibile to read. Watch this out: http://i.imgur.com/0F0sL.png
[09:15] <rehabbb> hi, i clicked on update and my ubuntu 11.04 wont boot. it says it cant find a kernel. stuck at grub... pls help...
[09:15] <timruff> bonjour
[09:16] <LukeSkywalker> salut
[09:16] <LukeSkywalker> !fr
[09:16] <ThinkT510> under: i can see it fine; complain to the website for using such a tiny font
[09:17] <under> ThinkT510: I cant see nothing good. what is the reason?
[09:17] <Klojum> no problems here... use the ZOOM-option in your browser to increase the size of the font (or buy a new pair of glasses)
[09:17] <ThinkT510> under: well, what do you see?
[09:18] <monty_muc> does nobody have  sun-java5-jdk?
[09:18] <timruff> j'ai un petit problème avec les variable en c je voudrais calculer un nombre 20 chiffres un entier, mais un long long int n'est pas assez grand et avec float j'ai des erreurs d'arrondie, en plus je dois pas utiliser des bibliothèques non standard au compilateur c dons pas de gmp
[09:18] <timruff> zsoory wrang channel
[09:19] <LukeSkywalker> #debian
[09:19] <under> ThinkT510: I find it hard to read well, have to keep the eye and what I do not like
[09:19] <ThinkT510> LukeSkywalker: use the force: /join #debian
[09:19] <rehabbb> hi, i clicked on update and my ubuntu 11.04 wont boot. it says it cant find a kernel. stuck at grub... pls help...
[09:19] <LukeSkywalker> oops
[09:20] <LukeSkywalker> i used /amsg i didn't know what it was
[09:20] <ThinkT510> under: sorry, i don't understand you
[09:21] <Tetsuo55> is there a known ticket tracking the computer-lag problems created by chrome?
[09:21] <under> ThinkT510: The chars are not easy to read, I mean, I've to strain on the eye
[09:21] <ThinkT510> under: can't you zoom in (like Klojum suggested)
[09:21] <nmvictor> flashplayer-downloader is asking to download adobe-flashplugin_11.0.1.152.orig.tar.gz. I already have the file on my Desktop, where should i place it for flasplayer-installer to configure? Any suggestions
[09:22] <under> ThinkT510: sure but the char keep not easy to read
[09:22] <LemonAid> I`m having a Netcat issue. After i connect trough Netcat to a remote machine, i land up in a cmd shell (good, since this is what i set up), from that shell i wand to start a Netcat listening server. It does not work. Full description and things i tried (with good formating :) )->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11323019
[09:22] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: why not install via the package manager?
[09:23] <ThinkT510> under: it is likely because of the colour of the font on a white background
[09:23] <ThinkT510> under: try highlighting it
[09:23] <szal> ThinkT510: since when can you install .tar.gz files w/ the pkg manager?
[09:23] <Klojum> under: contact the website developer and ask him/her to change things.
[09:23] <nmvictor> ThinkT510: I have a poor connection at the moment and alot else to use it for, so its taking too long to download the file which I already manually downoaded. Just tell me where i should place it please
[09:24] <ThinkT510> szal: you don't, i was suggesting to install the flash from the repo
[09:24] <under> Klojum: I've the same problem to read the system strings
[09:24] <taglass> under: perhaps try apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer if you don't like the way the fonts look?
[09:24] <glitchd> holy crap i cant get this crap to work, have tried all the settings and nothing gives. it will not connect to the net..!
[09:24] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, are ya busy bud?
[09:25] <nmvictor> ThinkT510: please, any suggestions
[09:25] <Klojum> under: which system strings?
[09:26] <stowoda> hi there.. I need to make kile put my output pdf-file into a different folder..
[09:26] <stowoda> is that possible?
[09:26] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: read the instructions that came with the download (the readme file)
[09:26] <Atlantic777> Sound is noisy. I thought that it's due to the flash, but it's system wide. It will be ok after reboot. How to restart sound server (alsa?) without rebooting?
[09:27] <Atlantic777> sudo service /something/ restart
[09:27] <under> Klojum: each string of X
[09:27] <nmvictor> ThinkT510: Their is no README file within the archive.
[09:28] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: where did you download it from?
[09:28] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, u still there?
[09:28] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: there are installation instructions on the flash website
[09:30]  * ThinkT510 doesn't understand where common sense goes when some people sit in front of a computer
[09:31] <duffman> ugh.. i wish the ubuntuforums wouldn't let people set their Version in their profile. Searching for version specific issues has become impossible :(
[09:31] <szal> aptitude tells me that flashplugin64-installer is newly obsolete..  I wonder how I should go about bringing Flash 11 to release version, since the info for flashplugin-installer shows it depending on nspluginwrapper, and I don't wanna go 32bit w/ Flash
[09:34] <glitchd> i cannot get my virtual machine to allow me to go online
[09:34] <glitchd> help
[09:36] <sh1nobi> why my kubuntu 10.04 cannot playing Movie format???
[09:36] <ThinkT510> !codecs | sh1nobi
[09:36] <glitchd> sh1nobi, sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:37] <sh1nobi> vlc ready install but cannot open... the vlc player
[09:37] <nmvictor> ThinkT510: I once saw a forum discussion on this. I am using synaptic package manager so i guess their is a /tmp/xxxxXXX working directory for synaptic ad thats whare it is tyring to save the file for use. If I knew the exact location, All I'd have to do is shove the file in their reapply reinstall flashplayer-installer within the synaptic session then it will skip the download part and go straight to configuring. Thats the extra sense I am trying to app
[09:38] <glitchd> #vbox
[09:39] <Flops> Hey, I currently try to learn programming from a book and the author gets a "Segmantation fault (core dumped)" when running the program. However on my Ubuntu 10.10 nothing happens when running the same program. I compiled with "cc program.c" and ran it using "./a.out". Do you know how to activate core dumping?
[09:39] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: how did you download it with synaptic and not install it at the same time?
[09:39] <duffman> any reason why .config/autostart/ wouldn't exist or work?
[09:40] <sgs2_usr> what causes skype to crash?
[09:41] <ThinkT510> sgs2_usr: ask the developers o skype (its closed-source)
[09:41] <glitchd> virtualbox is driving me nuts, can anyone help me diagnose why this stupid machine keeps saying its not connected to the Internet?
[09:41] <GriGi> Have you tried to configure net interfaces before running virtual system?
[09:42] <glitchd> GriGi, the thing is, it worked yesterday, but then not today.
[09:42] <glitchd> GriGi, ive been fudging with the network settings all day and cannot get it to allow me to go online
[09:42] <duffman> glitchd: are you using a vpn? do you have the VM set as bridged, nat? Give us some info.
[09:42] <sh1nobi> i have ready install sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras but still cannot play .avi, .flv, .mkv
[09:42] <sgs2_usr> ThinkT510, where to ask skype developers?
[09:43] <cypha> chalist, yes
[09:43] <vlt> Hello. When logging in to Ubuntu 11.04 the first time I get a message that my hardware doesn't support Unity and Ubuntu will fallback to Gnome. Is this VAG related? I got this video card: "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device [8086:3582] (rev 02)".
[09:43] <duffman> sgs2_usr: forum.skype.com/index.php?showforum=18
[09:43] <sgs2_usr> duffman, thanks!
[09:43] <glitchd> duffman, i was using nat, but thats the one that stopped working, ive all the adapters and all the settings just about and nothing will let me online
[09:43] <dr_willis> sh1nobi:  what video player are you trying to use?  whates the exact error message?
[09:44] <Flops> Hey, I currently try to learn programming from a book and the author gets a "Segmantation fault (core dumped)" when running the program. However on my Ubuntu 10.10 nothing happens when running the same program. I compiled with "cc program.c" and ran it using "./a.out". Do you know how to activate core dumping? It doesn't even output that a segfault happened.
[09:44] <glitchd> *ive tried all
[09:44] <sh1nobi> kmplayer & kaffein
[09:44] <sh1nobi> vlc cannot open
[09:44] <sgs2_usr> okay, bluetooth-applet; how can i retain the applet to show on the panel but have bluetooth turned off by default???
[09:44] <dr_willis> sh1nobi: run vlc from a terminal, look for error messages.
[09:44] <glitchd> sh1nobi, what error does vlc give?
[09:45] <nmvictor> ThinkT510: here is what happened. synaptic is trying to download the file but my connection is slow. This has been on since yesterday while i was behind the campus proxy. However, whatever synaptic was using to download the file, possibly wget or curl, was not using system proxy settings [thats another issue). So i downloaded the file to my desktop using downloadThemAll and hoped to use the above trick while installing. Anyway, cut it out, I just located
[09:45] <sh1nobi> VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.
[09:45] <sh1nobi> If you need to use real-time priorities and/or privileged TCP ports
[09:45] <sh1nobi> you can use vlc-wrapper (make sure it is Set-UID root and
[09:45] <sh1nobi> cannot be run by non-trusted users first).
[09:45] <FloodBot1> sh1nobi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:45] <vlt> Flops: Usually when other programs segfault it’s shown on command line. Maybe your’s doesn’t ;-)
[09:45] <dr_willis> sh1nobi:  why are you running video players as root?
[09:45] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: congratulations
[09:46] <duffman> glitchd: do you get any network information in the guest ? do you use dhcp for the rest of the netwrok, have you tried pinging an outside ip to see if it is just the nameservers?
[09:46] <sh1nobi> because backtrack is default login is root
[09:46] <Flops> vlt: How can I tell bash to show it?
[09:46] <dr_willis> sh1nobi:  i suggest dumping backtrack .. and using ubuntu. if you want support in here.
[09:46] <glitchd> duffman, yes i have tried to ping, it just returns errors
[09:46] <ThinkT510> sh1nobi: backtrack isn't supported here
[09:46] <vlt> Flops: That’s my point: I think it *would* have shown you.
[09:46] <sh1nobi> but backtrack based is ubuntu
[09:46] <dr_willis> sh1nobi:  dosent matter...
[09:47] <sh1nobi> in backtrack cannel.... no body help... or replay my ask
[09:47] <ThinkT510> !derivitives | sh1nobi
[09:47] <ThinkT510> !derivatives | sh1nobi
[09:47] <duffman> glitchd: strange. I don't know. Sorry.
[09:47] <dr_willis> sh1nobi:  thats one of the many reasons we dont reccomend backtrack to new users.
[09:47] <vlt> Flops: You could try adding some kind of output as the very last program instruction and see whether it it executed.
[09:47] <llutz_> sh1nobi: backtrack wasn't designed to be used on regular base. and tbh, it needs at least some basic knowledge how to be used.
[09:47] <glitchd> duffman, glitchd@glitchnet:~$ ping 8.8.8.8
[09:47] <glitchd> connect: Network is unreachable
[09:47] <sh1nobi> ok.... no problem
[09:47] <monty_muc> Does someone have a link to sun-java5-jdk (i386)?
[09:48] <glitchd> sry i didnt see ur response before i sent that
[09:48] <duffman> glitchd: yes that is a sign there is no network connection :)
[09:48] <dr_willis> sh1nobi:  you could always add a user.. but thats abnout the end of our BT support for the day. :)
[09:48] <Flops> vlt, it doesn't.... This is my source: http://pastebin.com/RywmzYAa
[09:48] <glitchd> duffman, lol thx
[09:48] <Flops> I will try adding some output tho.
[09:48] <duffman> glitchd: all i could think of initially was using a vpn, since Vbox and tun/tap doesn't play nice for some reason.
[09:48] <sh1nobi> ok no problem all..... thanks ya
[09:49] <duffman> glitchd: you could try setting an ip manually instead of relying on dhcp.
[09:49] <dr_willis> sh1nobi:  the better question to ask is why you are using Backtrack at all?
[09:49] <glitchd> duffman, thats another thing i have no idea how to do
[09:49] <Flops> vlt: It outputs the stuff I put after the segfault should have happened.
[09:49] <Guest18127> is there a way to remove the title bars from windows? i want chrome to look like it does in windows :S
[09:49] <glitchd> duffman, i jus dont understand why it was working then just stopped
[09:49] <szal> aptitude tells me that flashplugin64-installer is newly obsolete..  I wonder how I should go about bringing Flash 11 to release version, since the info for flashplugin-installer shows it depending on nspluginwrapper, and I don't wanna go 32bit w/ Flash
[09:49] <devilz> I need help with my Ubuntu PC. I just did a fresh install but when I go to boot the machine it does not boot into Ubuntu
[09:50] <duffman> glitchd: it can be many thing, for example your network gateway having a limited ammount of dhcp slots and them all being in use.
[09:50] <szal> devilz: what does it do instead?
[09:50] <duffman> bbiab hope that helped.
[09:50] <vlt> Flops: I’m not that good at C programming, so I don’t see where you expect it to segfault. And your code doesn’t write anything to stdout, right?
[09:50] <devilz> szal: The computer just sits with a cursor blinking.
[09:50] <heoa__> ...I have ubuntu live CD in USB stick, my laptop does not boot into OS at all, no multitasking cli ^+ALT F-keys not working...ideas to debug?
[09:51] <szal> devilz: do you have more than 1 HDD?
[09:51] <heoa__> the recovery mode freezes
[09:51] <devilz> szal: yes
[09:51] <Flops> vlt: It should segfault because I write more into the array than it can handle.
[09:51] <szal> devilz: then make sure you set the BIOS to boot from the HDD you installed Grub on
[09:52] <devilz> szal: Well I had to manually tell it which the GRUB is on
[09:52] <devilz> szal:  so now it boots to GRUB> and waits
[09:52] <sgs2_usr> is there a google+ for Ubuntu 11.04 to put into the indicator-messages?
[09:52] <vlt> Flops: Aah ok … Can you put an output at the end and see if it’s executed?
[09:52] <Flops> vlt: I did this and it is executed.
[09:52] <glitchd> users in #vbox are idiots
[09:52] <Guest18127> is there a way to remove the title bars from windows? i want chrome to look like it does in windows
[09:52] <vlt> Flops: Hmmm, then maybe you’d better ask in #c.
[09:53] <nmvictor> ThinkT510: Thanks
[09:53] <Flops> vlt: Thanks for your help, I will ask there.
[09:53] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: no worries, sorry for misunderstanding
[09:53] <NickyV> Hey all!
[09:54] <vlt> Hello. Do I need specific hardware to run Ubuntu 11.04?
[09:54] <devilz> szal: Do you mind if I private message you?
[09:54] <szal> devilz: yes, please keep support in the channel
[09:54] <NickyV> @vlt, I'm running 22.04 on a netbook, shouldn't be  aproblem on anything rteally
[09:54] <nmvictor> ThinkT510: why isn't proxy  now working system wide in KDE?
[09:54] <NickyV> *11.04
[09:54] <Ben64> i think ubuntu needs at least a p4 generation cpu
[09:54] <devilz> szal: ok well I am not sure what to do. Computer sits on GRUB> screen and doesn't go anywhere
[09:55] <req^> How would I change the desktop color depth to 16bit? Using unity the monitor preferences don't show a color selector
[09:55] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: i've never used proxies so i wouldn't know
[09:55] <Ben64> not sure if it'd work without newer extensions
[09:55] <glitchd> Guest18127, yes, go to the wrench, then go to preferences,  then go to personal stuff and at the bottom there is an option for that
[09:55] <mang0> Any free, lightweight desktop recorders for linux?
[09:55] <ThinkT510> nmvictor: also i'm more of an xfce guy than kde
[09:55] <NickyV> ANyone know how to upgrade to 11.10? tried alt f2 update manager, but didnt worl
[09:55] <NickyV> *k]
[09:55] <vlt> Ben64: I got this: "Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz". Ok?
[09:55] <devilz> szal: tried running startupmanager but it doesn't do anything after loading administrative service
[09:56] <Ben64> vlt: yeah thats fine
[09:56] <glitchd> in lxde is there a specific command to bring the network up or turn it on?
[09:56] <Ben64> vlt: originally a windows xp laptop?
[09:56] <ThinkT510> glitchd: no
[09:56] <cicero_> hello
[09:56] <ThinkT510> glitchd: it uses networkmanager just like gnome/xfce
[09:57] <Stanley00> NickyV: did you try running "sudo do-release-upgrade"?
[09:57] <vlt> Ben64: Don’t know. When I got it it had Ubuntu 09.04 installed.
[09:57] <NUllZer0> anyone know how I can have "growl" like notifications for my Thunderbird in ubuntu?
[09:57] <Ben64> vlt: oh, well if 9.04 works, any version will
[09:58] <|ntegra|> oh that's interesting, you got a computer that already had ubuntu on it
[09:58] <Atharva> Hi..how does the kernel line in grub menu looks ?? any idea ?
[09:58] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | Atharva
[09:58] <NickyV> Stanley00: bit new to ubuntu still, only bee using it 2011, no I havnt, straight into terminal right? I already have the iso. downloaded
[09:58] <vlt> Ben64, NickyV: When logging in to Ubuntu 11.04 the first time I get a message that my hardware doesn't support Unity and Ubuntu will fallback to Gnome. Is this VAG related? I got this video card: "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device [8086:3582] (rev 02)".
[09:59] <vlt> *VGA
[09:59] <Ben64> yeah that card doesn't support fancy 3d stuff
[09:59] <DeichShaf> how much reliable is iptraf with the value of TCP flow rate? is that value acurate?
[09:59] <NickyV> Stanley00: I've created a usb live disk, but cant get the system to boot from it
[09:59] <Viper> who is polish;d?
[09:59] <ThinkT510> NickyV: can't you wait till its released before upgrading to 11.10
[10:00] <NickyV> vlt:where you using windows before?
[10:00] <Guest81012> jest jakis polak tutaj ;d
[10:00] <Stanley00> NickyV: If you have a ISO, you can also try fresh install, upgrade via ISO only can do via alternate ISO, and that command is upgrade via Internet.
[10:00] <vlt> Ben64: So, it’s not a driver  issue?
[10:00] <Atharva> Thanks..
[10:00] <vlt> NickyV: No.
[10:00] <NickyV> vlt:what system where you using?
[10:00] <Ben64> vlt: nope, but i hear tons of complaints with unity, you're better off without it in my opinion
[10:00] <NickyV> Stanley00: ok, whats the command for that?
[10:00] <req^> I
[10:00] <vlt> Ben64: Ok Will Gnome still be suported in 10.10?
[10:01] <Stanley00> NickyV: sudo  do-release-upgrade -d
[10:01] <NickyV> Stanely00: I suppose I could, but seriously, it's like 4days...I'm gonna go insane by then
[10:01] <Ben64> vlt: 11.10?
[10:01] <vlt> Ben64: 11.10, yes.
[10:01] <NickyV> ]Stanely00: tahnks will try it now
[10:01] <req^> Would I relly have to take a keyboard to xorg.conf to change the color depth of my ubuntu unity desktop? Really?
[10:01] <Ben64> gnome better still be an option
[10:01] <Ben64> i don't want to change it
[10:01] <|ntegra|away|> haha
[10:02] <Stanley00> NickyV: but Oneiric is just beta now... so there will be some bug here and there... ;)
[10:02] <ThinkT510> vlt: 11.10 will support gnome3 (not gnome2)
[10:02] <|ntegra|away|> someone out there loves unity *not me but someone *alot of people
[10:02] <vlt> NickyV: 09.04
[10:02] <sgs2_usr> why is clutterflow in my nautilus-elementary doesn't work?
[10:03] <BouerBouer> hey guys, I'm trying to sync my iPod using Banshee and I just did, but the songs I sync up don't come up under Music on the ipod even though Banshee says the song is on it, wat do?
[10:03] <NickyV> Stanely: I got 11.04 when it was beta, I just report all the bugs I find, not good at coding, but love ubuntu, so if I find a problem, I figure I'd just bring it to the light:)
[10:03] <NickyV> vlt:is it a desktop or laptop?
[10:04] <vlt> NickyV: Laptop
[10:05] <BouerBouer> so any ideas?
[10:05] <wartrend> I am trying to install fish on ubuntu 11.04 in xchat. I am new to ubuntu and not used to the file system and have googled it 800 times and still can't figure it out
[10:05] <vlt> NickyV: What’ſ that important for?
[10:05] <vlt> *what’s
[10:05] <Ben64> wartrend: all you need to do is put the fish plugin in .xchat2/
[10:06] <NickyV> Stanely00: it says command not found, for the sudo do-release-upgrade-d, I've done something stupid before, I managed to install 11.04, along side 11.04, forgot why, but I think my harddrive went a bit out of wack.
[10:06] <ThinkT510> wartrend: sudo apt-get install fish
[10:06] <wartrend> and thats it?
[10:06] <NickyV> Stanely00: think I should try the same way to get 11.10
[10:06] <Whiskeyy> Anyone know how to run a command line after login?
[10:06] <wartrend> the files go to where they are supposed to?
[10:06] <ThinkT510> wartrend: yes
[10:06] <Ben64> wartrend: theres no files, just a plugin
[10:06] <Ben64> oh
[10:06] <wartrend> oh i see
[10:06] <glitchd> ActionPa1snip, u alive??
[10:06] <Whiskeyy> automatic
[10:07] <cadz> hi guys
[10:07] <pietr> hey, how do i know if my gnome is hw accel enabled? with nvidia
[10:07] <NickyV> vlt: just thinking of processing power, I take it its an older laptop then? considering you had 9.04
[10:07] <wartrend> well i will try it again and see if I can figure it out
[10:07] <ThinkT510> !software | wartrend
[10:07] <BouerBouer> hey guys, I'm trying to sync my iPod using Banshee and I just did it, but the songs I sync up don't come up under Music on the iPod even though Banshee says the song is on it, what's wrong?
[10:07] <Ben64> ThinkT510: fish - a friendly interactive shell
[10:07] <Ben64> that doesn't seem right
[10:07] <cadz> i was wondering if there is a  way to turn off Authenticate?
[10:07] <ThinkT510> Ben64: if that is what he wants
[10:07] <vlt> NickyV: I got this: "Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz".
[10:07] <Ben64> thats not what he wants
[10:08] <NickyV> Gotta run! soz guys and gals
[10:08] <ThinkT510> wartrend: what do you mean by fish? what does fish do?
[10:08] <cadz> i was wondering if there is a way to turn off Authenticate?
[10:08] <Whiskeyy> Anyone know if it possible to run a command line automatic after login ? ???
[10:08] <Ben64> ThinkT510: you shouldn't answer questions when you don't know about it :(
[10:09] <req^> Sorry to be repetitive, but does anyone know a way of changing the color depth of my ubuntu dekstop programmatically, without touching xorg.conf myself?
[10:09] <umadbro> cadz, don't repeat the question very quickly
[10:09] <llutz_> Whiskeyy: once or every login? add it to ~/.bashrc
[10:09] <cadz> anyone?
[10:09] <Whiskeyy> everylogi
[10:10] <BouerBouer> anyone know the solution to my problem?
[10:10] <Whiskeyy> ""everylogin""
[10:10] <andi> Hallo
[10:10] <Stanley00> Whiskeyy: add that command to Startup Application doesnt work?
[10:10] <umadbro> cadz, what Authenticate?
[10:10] <sgs2_usr> BouerBouer, i don't think linux support ipod
[10:10] <wartrend> ThinkT510 fish.secure.la
[10:10] <ThinkT510> !ipod | sgs2_usr
[10:10] <cadz> whenever i install software, remove software, it always wants me to authenticate
[10:11] <wartrend> www.fish.secure.la
[10:11] <umadbro> cadz, that's the way itis
[10:11] <umadbro> it is
[10:11] <BouerBouer> sgs2_usr: yes it does, otherwise it wouldn't come up as iPod when you plug it in and there wouldn't be tons of pages and help on how to sync it using media players, would there? :P
[10:11] <ThinkT510> wartrend: in that case i'm not sure then, sorry for the mixup
[10:11] <cadz> but i can turn it off in win 7, why not ubuntu
[10:11]  * umadbro sighs
[10:11] <ActionPa1snip> cadz: security
[10:11] <cadz> it's a little annoyance.
[10:11] <umadbro> sure
[10:11] <BouerBouer> also my mistake, it's says sync complete, but it doesn't transfer to the iPod at all
[10:11] <Whiskeyy> Stanley00: `? What
[10:11] <umadbro> go to terminal
[10:11] <sgs2_usr> ThinkT510, okay, thanks for the info...i am not an ipod user so I am wrong here :)
[10:11] <Stanley00> cadz: cause Ubuntu is NOT win 7 :D
[10:11] <umadbro> cadz, type visudo
[10:11] <ActionPa1snip> cadz: if you run:  sudo -i   you will get a root shell and can do as you please
[10:11] <cadz> k
[10:11] <umadbro> i meant sudo visudo
[10:12] <cadz> ah ok
[10:12] <cicero_> ubuntu software center has something about ipod
[10:12] <ActionPa1snip> cadz: considering how infrequently your software changes once its all setup, I wouldn't sweat it
[10:12] <wartrend> Ben64 where do I find that folder/file
[10:12] <umadbro> under # User privilege specification
[10:12] <Stanley00> Whiskeyy: there's a setting call Startup Application, some where in system setting or control center,
[10:12] <umadbro> write 'user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL'
[10:13] <umadbro> without quotes
[10:13] <Whiskeyy> oo
[10:13] <ActionPa1snip> umadbro: not great for security at all dude
[10:13] <umadbro> ActionPa1snip, yes, i know
[10:13] <cadz> but he is just answering my question
[10:13] <cadz> thank u umad
[10:13] <Ben64> wartrend: its in your home folder
[10:13] <ActionPa1snip> umadbro: user is clearly new to the OS, Advising that stuff isnt smart
[10:13] <sgs2_usr> anyone here uses docking station for their laptop?
[10:13] <wartrend> i don't see it in there
[10:13] <cadz> as i said, he is just answering my question
[10:13] <Dolev> quick question,  what's the best way to work with a few terminals besides guake ?
[10:14] <umadbro> ok sorry
[10:14] <Stanley00> !startup | Whiskeyy
[10:14] <ActionPa1snip> cadz: it removes any system security you have and any thing and any one can do anything on your system
[10:14] <umadbro> cadz, don't do it, it's better to authenticate every time you install a software
[10:14] <cadz> nah its ok, i have a firewall ;)
[10:14] <ActionPa1snip> cadz: depends how much you like security, for the sake of some convenience
[10:14] <qin> Dolev: screen, byobu, tmux (best of the best)
[10:14] <umadbro> that's not the problem
[10:14] <ActionPa1snip> cadz: the firewall will be circumvented by your browser
[10:14] <Dolev> thanks qin :-)
[10:14] <wartrend> Ben64: I don't see it any where in the home folder
[10:15] <umadbro> anyone that can physically access your computer can do root privileges
[10:15] <umadbro> without password auth
[10:15] <cadz> ahh
[10:15] <cadz> ok then
[10:15] <ActionPa1snip> cadz: you are allowing the browser through, and scripts with sudo in will not be challenged for password so can do ANYTHING on your OS, like install new apps or read any system file
[10:15] <Ben64> wartrend: folders that begin with a period are hidden
[10:15] <cadz> best i not do it, thanks anyway.
[10:15] <ActionPa1snip> cadz: if you have mounted folders for networ shares, those will be accessible too
[10:15] <wartrend> how do i show them sir?
[10:16] <Ben64> you can just type it in
[10:16] <umadbro> now you're scaring him, ActionPa1snip :)
[10:16] <cadz> lol
[10:16] <ActionPa1snip> umadbro: just giving the facts, people whom use itdon't know what they are getting into, or what it actually means or does
[10:16] <sgs2_usr> is there a way to set the "Connect to Server..." dialog to set to "Windows Share" instead of the "Public FTP" ?
[10:16] <qin> Bet 10 quid on cadz wrecking his system in 2 days.
[10:17] <umadbro> ah ok
[10:17] <cadz> nah
[10:17] <S2kx> how can I configure my ubuntu to use a german keyboard layout (Y<=>Z) etc? endless googling didnt help :S
[10:18] <cadz> learn ze english
[10:18] <BouerBouer> Hey guys, trying to sync my iPod using Banshee Media Player, but whenever it finishes transferring a song it says "Sync Complete", yet there are no new songs on my iPod under Music. What's wrong?
[10:18] <cadz> :P
[10:19] <qin> S2kx: Gui? Add german layout andmake it default. Is it natty?
[10:19] <S2kx> qin: sorry. 11.10
[10:19] <S2kx> qin: in available layouts it only lists american englsih
[10:19] <umadbro> #ubuntu+1
[10:19] <wartrend> Ben64 k i figured where to put blow but i don't see where it says plugins
[10:19] <qin> S2kx: I am afraid still #ubuntu+1
[10:20] <S2kx> thank you
[10:20] <BouerBouer> guys is there a #banshee channel?
[10:20] <BouerBouer> since none of you have any idea what the problem is :P
[10:20] <umadbro> check it
[10:20] <cadz> so i heard ubuntu 11.4 is horrible, should i upgrade to it'?
[10:20] <qin> S1kx: You may need to install language packages...
[10:20] <llutz_> !alis | BouerBouer
[10:20] <umadbro> !ot | cadz
[10:20] <S1kx> qin: yep i'll look at that
[10:21] <S1kx> qin: didnt have this problem with 11.04
[10:21] <cadz> heh
[10:21] <sgs2_usr> cadz: im using it and i don't think it's a mess
[10:21] <satellit_> does Ubuntu use eth0 as an interface name ? how would one find the wired interface for ifconfig eth0 up?  thanks
[10:22] <fabri> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=15CUOFJA
[10:22] <sgs2_usr> fabri: nice...
[10:22] <umadbro> fabri, what's that?
[10:23] <umadbro> !ot | fabri
[10:23] <cadz> !ot | umadbro
[10:23] <vlt> satellit_: Yes and “ifconfig -a”
[10:23] <umadbro> don't abuse the bot, cadz
[10:23] <cadz> kk
[10:24] <satellit_> vlt: thanks
[10:25] <cadz> umadbro, gotta run, cya and thanks for the help.
[10:26] <umadbro> ok
[10:26] <Olotila> ubuntu crashed, this is only app that works
[10:26] <sgs2_usr> Olotila: what crash?
[10:26] <Olotila> how can i kill processess, what shortcut key?
[10:27] <Olotila> cant change window
[10:27] <sgs2_usr> Olotila: kill -9 pid
[10:27] <umadbro> Ctrl-C
[10:27] <Olotila> with mouse or keyb
[10:27] <Olotila> cant use terminal ...
[10:27] <sgs2_usr> Olotila: why can't use terminal?
[10:27] <qin> Olotila: Alt-F2 and xkill
[10:27] <Olotila> cant change window
[10:27] <Olotila> alt f2 does nothing
[10:27] <Olotila> i can click all windows in taskbar
[10:27] <Olotila> they do not react
[10:28] <sgs2_usr> Olotila: u in unity?
[10:28] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and when i plug in my sansa fuze it mounts as read only how can i get it to not do that?
[10:28] <Olotila> 10.04
[10:28] <qin> Olotila: Ctrl-Alt-F1, login, sudo apt-get install htop, htop (there F9)
[10:28] <Olotila> ctrl alt del gives me shutdown options
[10:29] <qin> Olotila: Ctrl-Alt-F7 to return to gui.
[10:29] <sgs2_usr> Olotila: install nautilus-elementary and hit F7 to get to the terminal
[10:29] <jasonmsp> anyone know what media player will deal with mp4 for music that I own?
[10:29] <sgs2_usr> jasonmsp: banshee
[10:30] <jasonmsp> sgs2_usr: won't play my mp4 music
[10:30] <sgs2_usr> jasonmsp: hmm...it works on my banshee 2.2.0
[10:30] <Olotila2> thanks, got out of it
[10:30] <Olotila2> can i get back in in the session?
[10:30] <sgs2_usr> Olotila: how?
[10:30] <Olotila2> ctrl alt f1
[10:30] <qin> jasonmsp: Do you play mp3? cvlc your.mp4
[10:30] <req^> What were the F1-Fn spaces named? Virtual terminals or something like that?
[10:30] <|ntegra|away|> !mp4
[10:30] <Olotila2> gave command startx
[10:31] <Olotila2> now im back in gui
[10:31] <nmvictor> Anyone with a working system proxy settings in ubuntu, mine cant be applied system wide even after using the 'Apply System Wide ..." button.
[10:31] <qin> Olotila: Ctrl-Alt-F7 (or F8)
[10:31] <jasonmsp> sgs2_usr:  im running Natty, Banshee is 2.0.
[10:31] <sgs2_usr> jasonmsp: u can opt to install banshee 2.2.0
[10:31] <jasonmsp> qin: cvlc?   I don't care what the format is.
[10:31] <|ntegra|away|> jasonmsp: can you play all other media files?
[10:32] <Olotila> crtl alt f3 gets me here :D
[10:32] <Olotila> thanks, nice
[10:32] <qin> Olotila: Did you make just killing?
[10:32] <jasonmsp> ntegra|away|:  yes.  Banshee won't play the mp4's only.
[10:32] <Olotila> no killings yet
[10:32] <ActionPa1snip> |ntegra|: please don't away with a nick change
[10:32] <|ntegra|> oh, i don't know another way
[10:33] <|ntegra|> sorry
[10:33] <qin> |ntegra|: /away reason
[10:33] <ActionPa1snip> |ntegra|: just leave, no effort is required
[10:33] <Tundmatu> Hi
[10:33] <jasonmsp> |ntegra|: what IRC client are you using?
[10:33] <|ntegra|> pidgin
[10:34] <|ntegra|> man that sounds weird, if you can play avi,mkv why can't you play mp4?
[10:34] <Tundmatu> I seem to have a problem with Ubuntu 11.04. It fails on installing stuff, error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704817/
[10:34] <sammy> so if I add a deb-src line in my sources.list for oneiric, and then do apt-get -b source, will it grab the newer, oneiric version?
[10:35] <qin> jasonmsp: Is it drm?
[10:35] <|ntegra|> it's either the mp4 itself (drm) saying banshee is "other media"/"copying" or its just a matter of downloading/installing another codec that deals with it
[10:35] <jasonmsp>  |ntegra|: With pidigin you can select the dropdown to make you away or available at the bottom of your buddy list.
[10:36] <jasonmsp> qin:  I think it is.
[10:36] <|ntegra|> yeah it is
[10:36] <jasonmsp> qin: pulled the original in on itunes when I was running windows, and then just linked to the music folder in banshee.
[10:37] <|ntegra|> that could be the issue right there then
[10:37] <qin> jasonmsp: I have been mugged then. There is some healing methods (mencoder forum, or doom8)
[10:37] <jasonmsp> mime type in Banshee just says taglib/m4p.
[10:38] <|ntegra|> the first thing I'd do is move one mp4/song into my home folder and double-click that
[10:39] <|ntegra|> ...just to be sure it's not what I thunk it is (dr-bloody-m)
[10:39] <th0r> jasonmsp: if you purchased the mp4 via itunes it is drm and only itunes can load it into the ipod or play it
[10:39] <jasonmsp> th0r: ok...  workaround?
[10:39] <|ntegra|> yupyup reencode asap right?
[10:40] <th0r> jasonmsp: none
[10:40] <jasonmsp> Im looking at mencoder now.
[10:40] <|ntegra|> can't reencode??
[10:40] <dr_willis> cant remove drm..
[10:40] <dr_willis> at least not legally. :)
[10:41] <|ntegra|> jasonmsp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=4c852f8c44d10d7cda6220a886a9d488&p=4146686&postcount=12
[10:43] <jasonmsp> |ntegra|:  Thanks.
[10:43] <|ntegra|> but read on... songbird plays itunes drm?
[10:44] <|ntegra|> and then they yarn on and yarn on, but basically the gist is -drm sucks armpits
[10:44] <none>  /home/john/Desktop/FiSH-XChat.v0.98-binaries/Linux/gentoo/xfish.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[10:44] <tyhgu> hello
[10:44] <noWay> hy]
[10:45] <|ntegra|> jasonmsp: lol, did that help? to say "there is no help"?
[10:46] <none>  /home/john/Desktop/FiSH-XChat.v0.98-binaries/Linux/gentoo/xfish.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[10:46] <none> what does this mean?
[10:46] <none> elf class wth?
[10:46] <tyhgu> dou You play WoW?
[10:46] <|ntegra|> only for the gold really
[10:47] <jasonmsp> |ntegra|:  yeah, i had seen that one a few minutes ago, but was looking for an easier route.  I'll need to go burn from my wife's mac since my vbox running windows can't burn, only read from the DVD drive.
[10:48] <airtonix> none: it means most likely you are running 64bit binary on a 32bit system
[10:48] <airtonix> or somethign related
[10:48] <|ntegra|> bummer
[10:48] <Tundmatu> I seem to have a problem with Ubuntu 11.04. It fails on installing updates. Error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704824/
[10:48] <|ntegra|> I'd still have a stab with mencoder/ffmpeg
[10:49] <microtechno> hey folks, how do i go about upgrading mythbuntu from 10.4 to 11.04 or 11.10..?
[10:49] <Ben64> airtonix: probably the opposite considering the error message
[10:49] <ActionPa1snip> none: what is the output of:  uname -a
[10:49] <ActionPa1snip> microtechno: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[10:49] <none> not really sure
[10:50] <ActionPa1snip> microtechno: wait, lucid
[10:50] <Ben64> none: theres an easy way to find out...
[10:50] <none> i am trying to get this fish to work with xchat
[10:50] <ActionPa1snip> microtechno: you'll need to upgrade to maverick first
[10:50] <ActionPa1snip> microtechno: then from maverick to natty
[10:50] <ActionPa1snip> microtechno: then natty to Oneiric
[10:50] <none> its a pain in the you know what.
[10:50] <Ben64> microtechno: it might be best to wait for 12.04
[10:50] <none> i am new to linux and am trying to figure this out
[10:50] <airtonix> none: so did you run the commadn that ActionPa1snip told you  run?
[10:50] <ActionPa1snip> microtechno: if you can wait til April next year, you can upgrade directly to Perfect
[10:50] <none> XChat's plugin directory....where do i find this?
[10:51] <none> yes
[10:51] <Ben64> none: to find the output of "uname -a" you open up a terminal and type "uname -a"
[10:51] <fabri> ciaoo
[10:51] <fabri> list
[10:51] <|ntegra|> jasonmsp: I'm actually reading on it abit now, and this page says a software way http://slated.org/howto_convert_drm_video
[10:51] <microtechno> ActionPa1snip, i need to upgrade because i need a higher kernel version for iec958 drivers
[10:51] <none> Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:17:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:52] <tyhgu> none:  you want to install x-chat or what?
[10:52] <|ntegra|> jasonmsp: SUPER bro, on xp - just reencode them all
[10:52] <ActionPa1snip> none: 64bit OS
[10:52] <none> no i am trying to get fish to work with it
[10:52] <ActionPa1snip> microtechno: I'd just clean install Oneiric
[10:53] <ActionPa1snip> none: then you need the 64bit binary
[10:53] <|ntegra|> jasonmsp: since you say you've got xp right there
[10:53] <none> i need fish so I can get on a server
[10:53] <microtechno> means possibly loosing all my mythtv setup, but sounds easier than going through 4 upgrades
[10:53] <none> i didn't see one when I was at there site
[10:53] <none> maybe there isn't one
[10:54] <none> maybe I should just install 32 bit and be done with it
[10:54] <Ben64> you want my plugin
[10:54] <Ben64> ?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[10:54] <Ben64> http://www.ben64.com/xfish.so
[10:54] <Ben64> use that one, i'll delete it in 4 minutes
[10:55] <|ntegra|> oh, that's cool aye
[10:55] <|ntegra|> lol @4mins
[10:55] <jasonmsp> |ntegra|: thanks.
[10:55] <Ben64> |ntegra|: should be long enough to download 132K
[10:55] <ActionPa1snip> none: if you can get the 32bit libs and put them in /usr/lib32  you can run it, just gets messy
[10:55] <|ntegra|> I'm just talking crap really, and googling with you on a subject I find interesting
[10:56] <Ben64> xfish.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, not stripped
[10:57] <none> I will try
[10:57] <|ntegra|> but when you look at an artist and it's amazingly beautiful what they've done, and they actually spend days/months/years passionately learning an instrument... well
[10:57] <|ntegra|> and that's what wozniak and jobs must've thought really
[10:57] <none> but when I tried to do it earlier it wouldn't let me drop the file in there
[10:57] <none> says i didn't have the permission
[10:57] <llutz_> hmm, using an unsigned binary from "unknown" source for traffic-encryption... (no offense Ben64, just a thought)
[10:58] <ActionPa1snip> none: run:  gksudo nautilus    and you can
[10:58] <Ben64> wget http://www.ben64.com/xfish.so -O ~/.xchat2/xfish.so
[10:58] <ActionPa1snip> none: I'd take the easy road and install 32bit
[10:58] <Ben64> ActionPa1snip: don't need root to access ~/
[10:58] <|ntegra|> I think that too, if a band's made millions I couldn't care, but if it's someone in a small country with amazing talent (not 3 chords and a spliff) I think otherwise
[10:58] <Ben64> llutz_: I may be evil, good point
[10:58] <|ntegra|> I strictly try before I buy though, I'm just like that
[10:59] <none> k i figured it out actionpalsnip
[10:59] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: does if you are putting files in /usr/lib32
[10:59] <none> thank you so much for your help
[10:59] <Ben64> except it goes into ~/.xchat2/
[10:59] <Ben64> :|
[10:59] <none> i would be lost without this channel. you are all very nice and helpful!
[10:59] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: not for none's issue with fish (running 32bit in 64bit OS)
[11:00] <|ntegra|> no we're not, you are just a highly skilled question-asker lol
[11:00] <Nisstyre> I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint
[11:00] <Ben64> thats a bad solution, and gksudo nautlius wouldn't work
[11:00] <sgs2_usr> Ben64: i use gksudo on my 11.04 and it works fine, what is your problem?
[11:00] <Ben64> gksudo won't work to install 32 bit libs....
[11:01] <Ben64> s/gksudo/gksudo\ nautilus/
[11:01] <sgs2_usr> hmmm, u trying to install 32bit libs?
[11:01] <airtonix> why would you need gksudo or sudo to access *anything* in your home folder (unless it was placed there by root in the first place) ?
[11:01] <Ben64> i wish people would read
[11:03] <wildc4rd> Good afternoon, when using Twinview, is there a way of specifying which monitor any giver app opens on?
[11:03] <sgs2_usr> wildc4rd: you using NVIDIA or ATI?
[11:03] <umadbro> it should open at it's default location
[11:03] <umadbro> close an app at the targeted monitor and check it back by re-opening it
[11:04] <wildc4rd> sgs2_usr: its through the Nvidia X server settings
[11:04] <arewenotmen67> xdcc send #numerofile
[11:04] <Ben64> arewenotmen67: no xdcc here
[11:05] <sgs2_usr> wildc4rd: try poking inside NVIDEO settings ...there might be a option there
[11:05] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: why would it not, user needs to copy files where he doesn't have write access. gksudo will run nautiilus with extra access and allow the file copy. Where is the problem?
[11:05] <Ben64> where would he copy the files from?
[11:06] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: wherever, the source doesn't matter
[11:06] <Ben64> it does matter
[11:06] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: Safe to assume $HOME as the user would be downloading the debs and extracting them
[11:06] <a7x> hi which software may i use, to recovery a formatted HD?
[11:07] <Ben64> the correct way to install the libraries is to do "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[11:07] <ActionPa1snip> ben64: why does it matter, users have at least read access to the majority of the folders
[11:07] <Ben64> because you're wrong
[11:07] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: and what if the app needs a lib not provided by that package
[11:07] <Ben64> now you're just bringing false arguments in
[11:08] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: its perfectly valid, apps don't ALL rely purely on what is provided by ia32 libs.
[11:08] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: a lot will need extra libs, so will need providing as I said
[11:08] <Ben64> i'm done with you, you're completely incorrect
[11:08] <wildc4rd> sgs2_usr: not obviously, and it dosn't seem to matter which screen its on when closed either, always opens on the 'slave' screen
[11:08] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: trust me, I've done this stuff
[11:09] <sammy> so if I add a deb-src line in my sources.list for oneiric, and then do apt-get -b source, will it grab the newer, oneiric version? sorry if someone answered this, i dont have a pgup and its not in my hilighted lastlog.
[11:09] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: you can think I'm incorrect all you want
[11:09] <sgs2_usr> wildc4rd: then i guess there is no way to save a window session and restore to it's origin...
[11:09] <|ntegra|> lol
[11:09] <wildc4rd> sgs2_usr: i'm not that worried to be honest, lol, just would have been useful on occasion
[11:09] <wildc4rd> sgs2_usr: thanks for the help anyway
[11:10] <sgs2_usr> wildc4rd: sure thing
[11:10] <sammy> I feel I'm supposed to be able to specify a target release with -t on an apt-get -b source line, but it doesn't see it.
[11:10] <Ben64> wildc4rd: usually an application will open on the screen where it is closed
[11:11] <mongy> wildc4rd: can use compizconfig and use the place windows plugin to set aa static position.
[11:11] <Ben64> sammy:   -b  Build the source package after fetching it
[11:11] <|ntegra|> -t sounds interesting
[11:11] <mongy> wildc4rd: I found in 11.04 I open nautilus it saves the position, in 11.10 it doesnt :(
[11:12] <|ntegra|> I always wondered how to have stable this'n'that while always getting "bleeding-edge" firefox
[11:12] <|ntegra|> Ben64: how would you go about doing that?
[11:12] <|ntegra|> is it easy?
[11:12] <Ben64> do what exactly
[11:13] <|ntegra|> *when updates happen* to have stable *most things* but to always grab the *latest* firefox
[11:13] <sgs2_usr> nobody use bluetooth in Ubuntu 11.04 at all here?
[11:13] <umadbro> updates=bleeding edge.
[11:14] <umadbro> in ubuntu, that is
[11:14] <Sidewinder1> |ntegra|, Have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware as a how-to when compiling from source.
[11:14] <ActionPa1snip> sgs2_usr: not much, whats up?
[11:14] <umadbro> if you want a stable system, go for a stable distro
[11:14] <|ntegra|> (the question is for ubuntu AND debian really) oh , thanks
[11:14] <|ntegra|> aye? I don't want that
[11:14] <ActionPa1snip> |ntegra|: you can add the firefox daily build ppa and get your bowser there
[11:14] <sgs2_usr> ActionPa1snip: well, i have this idea of having the bluetooth-applet to show on the panel but turn off bluetooth by default, how can i achieve that?
[11:14] <|ntegra|> oh yeah, and that's not too hard
[11:15] <|ntegra|> !ppa
[11:15] <umadbro> |ntegra|, wants to have stable softwares, i believe
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> sgs2_usr: not sure there man, I always keep bluetooth on
[11:15] <sgs2_usr> ActionPa1snip: that will drain your battery, wouldn't it?
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> |ntegra|: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> sgs2_usr: its a desktop, no battery
[11:15] <sgs2_usr> ActionPa1snip: lol...
[11:15] <|ntegra|> well, like stable debian, but then *latest* ffmpeg/firefox/chrome yaknow?
[11:16] <|ntegra|> ActionPa1snip: I'm on puppy bro
[11:16] <ActionPa1snip> |ntegra|: puppy isnt supported here
[11:16] <|ntegra|> I know, I'm not worried
[11:16] <sgs2_usr> what is puppy?
[11:16] <umadbro> ActionPa1snip, he's not asking puppy-related questions.
[11:16] <umadbro> Puppy Linux
[11:16] <ActionPa1snip> sgs2_usr: super light (and awesome) linux distro
[11:16] <sgs2_usr> another flavor?
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> |ntegra|: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=natty
[11:17] <sgs2_usr> ActionPa1snip: okay, thanks :D
[11:17] <qin> sgs2_usr: sudo service bluetooth status|stop|start
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> sgs2_usr: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[11:17] <sgs2_usr> qin: i want it to be off everytime i boots up
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> sgs2_usr: if you add the comand to pull it down in /etc/rc.local   above the exit 0   line, it will run at boot
[11:18] <qin> sgs2_usr: sudo update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove
[11:18] <Lantizia> Hey is gksu available on kubuntu?  i'm trying to write a script that when double clicked on (with +x set) in either nautilus or dolphin - it'll relaunch itself as super user mode so it can install something.
[11:18] <|ntegra|> oh, that readme's real important/helpful
[11:18] <sgs2_usr> qin: what would that command do? remove permanently? can i still  turn it back on from the bluetooth-applet ?
[11:18] <ActionPa1snip> Lantizia: use:  kdesudo
[11:19] <sgs2_usr> ActionPa1snip: how can i go about doing that?
[11:19] <ActionPa1snip> sgs2_usr: its just a text file, so:  gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local    will get you write access
[11:20] <sgs2_usr> ActionPa1snip: okay, what should i put in that rc.local?
[11:20] <Lantizia> ActionPa1snip, but then I've gotta detect if it is gnome or kde! :S
[11:20] <qin> sgs2_usr: You would need to start service, but bluetooth looks like tiny deamon, is it really bother you?
[11:20] <Lantizia> ActionPa1snip, does any symlink exist that points to whichever is being used? like an update-alternatives type thing?
[11:21] <sgs2_usr> qin: yes, it does :D
[11:21] <ActionPa1snip> Lantizia: you can add a check if the files exist
[11:21] <ActionPa1snip> Lantizia: http://forum.codecall.net/bash-shell-scripting/17864-linux-bash-check-if-file-exists.html
[11:22] <|ntegra|> Lantizia: why so remote?
[11:22] <|ntegra|> linus!
[11:22] <Lantizia> |ntegra|, remote?
[11:22] <ActionPa1snip> Lantizia: check if both exist, then set a variable to the command you need to use
[11:22] <qin> sgs2_usr: That update-rc.d may do better with disable, me thinks. Then you need to start it by: sudo service bluetooth start, prior to using applet, and maybe reload applet (indicator) itself, not really sure.
[11:23] <|ntegra|> =just have a look
[11:23] <sgs2_usr> qin: okay, since it's so much hassle, then forget it :D i will just live with it turned on all the time...
[11:24] <qin> sgs2_usr: It really take only few k form memory when bluetooth is disable (with applet).
[11:25] <sgs2_usr> next question, can i use the latest Evolution mail 3.0 on existing 11.04 gnome-classic session?
[11:25] <sgs2_usr> qin: it's not the memory that im concerning here, it's the battery drain
[11:27] <|ntegra|> what's the best way to turn off cups and cups updating?
[11:27] <qin> sgs2_usr: check powertop
[11:27] <sgs2_usr> qin: powertop?
[11:28] <|ntegra|> qin: what is it?
[11:29] <|ntegra|> qin: you basically told the guy to go google something because *he should trust you*
[11:29] <qin> |ntegra|, sgs2_usr: like top but for monitoring power, also iftop, iotop, hotp and propably more, handy stuff.
[11:29] <sgs2_usr> qin: is it available in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[11:30] <|ntegra|> it is gui aye?
[11:30] <llutz_> !info powertop
[11:30] <qin> |ntegra|: No, told him what tool to use to deal with his concerns.
[11:30] <qin> |ntegra|: Almost gui.
[11:30] <|ntegra|> lol
[11:31] <ActionPa1snip> Lantizia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704838/
[11:32] <Lantizia> ActionPa1snip, not interested - what if it is xfce lol, too many variables
[11:32] <GirlyGirl> !xfce | Lantizia
[11:33] <Lantizia> GirlyGirl, the point of that is?
[11:33] <|ntegra|> GirlyGirl:!
[11:33] <|ntegra|> a linuxchick!
[11:33] <GirlyGirl> Oops wrong person and channe;
[11:33] <GirlyGirl> Lantizia: Sorry
[11:34] <sgs2_usr> i have powertop installed
[11:34] <|ntegra|> Lantizia: what is the situation that you are dealing with there?
[11:34] <sgs2_usr> but right now i notice my cpu3 is utilizing almost 95%
[11:35] <sgs2_usr> is that normal?
[11:35] <qin> ActionPa1snip: Rather check active prosess, since one may have gnome and kde installed.
[11:36] <qin> *process
[11:36] <Lantizia> |ntegra|, making an install script using bash - meant for use on any debian-based system (but primarily ubuntu) whatever the arch type, whatever the desktop environment... however if it's not been ran as su/root then I want it to prompt for a password for it and re-run itself
[11:36] <umadbro> GirlyGirl, you should read what the post was, not triggering commands at any given words.
[11:36] <|ntegra|> oh ok
[11:38] <|ntegra|> I'd just use the README.txt but you're obviously aiming for ultra-user-friendly
[11:40] <|ntegra|> unfortunately, to be so user-friendly you *will* have to do all that homework on every possible hurdle no?
[11:40] <GirlyGirl> Lantizia: How about two scripts ... one that launches the other than needs root for tasks ... when the first one ends it prompts for password to launch the second
[11:41] <qin> Lantizia: That would be, user (with sudo) running script have to be root, right?
[11:41] <ActionPa1snip> qin: its one way
[11:41] <jrib> Lantizia: why are you creating such a thing instead of making a proper deb for your software?
[11:41] <Ben64> sounds dangerous
[11:41] <ActionPa1snip> Lantizia: xfce uses gksudo
[11:42] <Lantizia> ActionPa1snip, lxde!
[11:42] <qin> ActionPa1snip: Yeah, I am picky without coffee.
[11:42] <Lantizia> ActionPa1snip, i.e. give up :P
[11:42] <GirlyGirl> Lantizia: So if the first script is run without sudo, it will prompt for password to launch the second script .... the first script has a line "sudo sh /path/to/second/script"
[11:42] <Lantizia> jrib, who said it was for my software?
[11:42] <ActionPa1snip> Lantizia: gksudo
[11:42] <Ben64> you can use sudo as root
[11:42] <jrib> Lantizia: why are you creating such a thing instead of making a proper deb for the software?
[11:42] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: sudo isn't suitable for gui apps
[11:42] <Ben64> yes it is
[11:43] <ActionPa1snip> !gksudo
[11:43] <qin> Ben64: whoami; sudo whoami
[11:43] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: it's NOT
[11:43] <Ben64> it IS
[11:43] <|ntegra|> hmm it is a software type-ahh question though
[11:43] <|ntegra|> hmm
[11:43] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: that is the official bot in the official support channel, telling users not to use it. I think I'll side with that
[11:44] <ActionPa1snip> Ben64: it may WORK, but it's not suitable
[11:44] <Ben64> i'm gonna go ahead and ignore everything you say
[11:44] <|ntegra|> haha
[11:44] <ActionPa1snip> done and done
[11:45] <umadbro> sudo will give you root access with your own password?
[11:45] <ActionPa1snip> umadbro: yea
[11:45] <Ben64> thats how it works usually, yes
[11:45] <umadbro> why not just use su/
[11:45] <umadbro> ?
[11:45] <ActionPa1snip> umadbro: provided your user is in the admin group
[11:45] <Ben64> su needs a root password
[11:45] <umadbro> and sometimes i see people doing 'sudo su'
[11:45] <umadbro> what's that for
[11:45] <ActionPa1snip> umadbro: for graphical apps, use gksudo (or kdesudo in kde)
[11:45] <umadbro> rooting for root
[11:45] <GirlyGirl> If you use sudo in place of kdesu or gksu, the app runs as root but uses your standard user's config files. It the file config permission changes to root. when you launch the same app without sudo configuration cannot be read
[11:45] <Ben64> thats silly mode
[11:46] <umadbro> yes
[11:46] <FloodBot1> umadbro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <Ben64> sudo -i works for that
[11:46] <oCean> umadbro: su switches users, sudo gives you (temp) elevated privileges
[11:46] <lanthaler> hello.. just installed ubuntu 11.04 but I can't connect to my WLAN network (uses WPA).. can someone help me?
[11:46] <|ntegra|> but ubuntu sets up *the first user* with a rooty type priviledge
[11:46] <|ntegra|> (there *is* no root)
[11:46] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: in terminal "iwlist scan"
[11:46] <oCean> |ntegra|: yes, there is root, the account is just not enabled
[11:46] <ActionPa1snip> |ntegra|: there is, its just disabled ;)
[11:47] <Ben64> oCean: thats what he meant
[11:47] <oCean> |ntegra|: lots of processes run "as" root user
[11:47] <umadbro> so sudo makes you root for temporary and uses your user's config files, and su makes you change user to root and uses root's config files
[11:47] <|ntegra|> oh so it's there?
[11:47] <djbeirut> hi.. i have a text file with arabic text in it. i am running minimal ubuntu install. i want to be able to do nano arabic.txt and read the text in arabic.
[11:47] <Ben64> or i guess not
[11:47] <oCean> umadbro: no
[11:47] <Ben64> root is always there
[11:47] <Ben64> its login is just disabled by default and has no password
[11:47] <umadbro> Ben64, secured scrambled password
[11:47] <oCean> umadbro: sudo runs the command with elevated privileges, it will not make you root (unless you invoke a shell, then *that* shell has root privileges)
[11:48] <Ben64> root:!:13818:0:99999:7:::
[11:48] <Ben64> no password
[11:48] <ActionPa1snip> |ntegra|: it is there, its just disabled so you cannot log on as the user
[11:48] <GirlyGirl> umadbro: Besides by default recovery mode logs in to root with no authentication at all
[11:48] <|ntegra|> oh so it's there but it's not
[11:48] <umadbro> so sudo -i runs a shell with root privileges
[11:48] <|ntegra|> lol
[11:48] <umadbro> or sudo -s
[11:48] <jrib> djbeirut: I don't know, but you may try the arabic channel.  There might be someone experienced with the issue there.  (you can also keep trying here of course, but I'd suggest doing both)
[11:48] <Ben64> sudo -i
[11:48] <oCean> umadbro: indeed
[11:48] <jrib> !arabic | djbeirut
[11:49] <GirlyGirl> djbeirut: Although I don't think terminal shells support non ASCI characters
[11:49] <umadbro> sudo is temporary su, for short
[11:49] <oYeVoVeYo> Guys help plzzz, my computer's been auto shut down for the past 5 or 6 days, any ideas how to fix that?
[11:49] <oCean> umadbro: no, they differ
[11:49] <Ben64> umadbro: not really, but if that helps you, sure
[11:49] <djbeirut> ubottu the channel is empty! :/
[11:49] <varnie> hi!
[11:49] <umadbro> ok
[11:49] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: it lists a number of WLANs there.. also mine.. I've set it up in the network manager but it doesn't connect
[11:50] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: Do you use WPA or WPA2
[11:50] <|ntegra|> iirc you'll find you cannot su
[11:50] <varnie> why 'updating packages' over package-manager CHANGED the kernel from 2.6.35-22 to 2.6.35-30?
[11:50] <jrib> varnie: not sure exactly what your question is
[11:50] <qin> djbeirut: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/acon.1.html
[11:50] <|ntegra|> you must sudo -s
[11:51] <GirlyGirl> varnie: Because it updated the kernel
[11:51] <varnie> why?
[11:51] <GirlyGirl> varnie: kind of the point of updateing
[11:51] <Ben64> you can "sudo su -" but its just kind of weird
[11:51] <oYeVoVeYo> :/ guys plz help, my computer auto shuts down, how to fix that?
[11:51] <umadbro> But if you launch Firefox with the command sudo firefox it runs with root privileges but uses the user's configuration file
[11:51] <varnie> I run 'update manager', it showed there're many updates available. after update I noticed that my  kernel version has changed.
[11:51] <fritsch> Ben64: plese use sudo -s
[11:51] <|ntegra|> yeahyeah that was what I was using : sudo su
[11:51] <Ben64> fritsch: thats my point...
[11:51] <umadbro> oYeVoVeYo, is it Windows 7?
[11:51] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: WPA-PSK 256 bit
[11:51] <fritsch> Ben64: ups, did not read :-)
[11:51] <|ntegra|> but fritsch always told me off
[11:51] <varnie> and now I have two kernels available
[11:52] <oYeVoVeYo> Ubuntu 10.04 umadbro
[11:52] <Ben64> varnie: thats normal
[11:52] <varnie> well, okay
[11:52] <oYeVoVeYo> The LTS one
[11:52] <jrib> varnie: yes, your kernel was updated during the update.  You can remove the older kernel by removing the correpsonding linux-image-* package if you wish
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> varnie: yes, the old ones are retained in case the new ones are bad, you can then reboot to the old one and be ok
[11:52] <lanthaler>  802.11g
[11:52] <Ben64> it should automatically use the newest one
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> varnie: if the new kernel is ok, you can remove the old one
[11:52] <|ntegra|> jrib: how do you do that?
[11:52] <varnie> how can I perform that?
[11:52] <umadbro> oYeVoVeYo, is it, possibly, ran out of RAM or haven't been fsck-ed for the last 32 mounts?
[11:52] <Ben64> usually best to leave it alone, one bad command will leave you without the ability to boot
[11:53] <ActionPa1snip> varnie: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2
[11:53] <ActionPa1snip> varnie: then give the output of:  uname -a    Thanks
[11:53] <varnie> ii  linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic        2.6.35-22.35                                      Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86/x86_64
[11:53] <varnie> ii  linux-image-2.6.35-30-generic        2.6.35-30.59                                      Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86/x86_64
[11:53] <jrib> |ntegra|: you just remove linux-image-KERNELVERSION in your favorite apt frontend
[11:53] <varnie> uname -a output: Linux heimdal 2.6.35-30-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 30 15:58:00 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:53] <oYeVoVeYo> umadbro, yea well, I'm still a newb, I have no idea what you're talking about o.o"
[11:53] <ActionPa1snip> varnie: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic
[11:53] <|ntegra|> oh simple
[11:53] <GirlyGirl> How can I check smart status of ATAPI devices in Ubuntu?
[11:54] <varnie> thanks, I'll try that.
[11:54] <Ben64> oYeVoVeYo: your computer could be overheating and shutting down to protect itself
[11:54] <jrib> |ntegra|: make sure you don't remove all your installed kernels though ;)
[11:54] <oYeVoVeYo> Ben64, okayy... how can I cool it down then?
[11:54] <GirlyGirl> |ntegra|: It might be nice to keep two versions as a fall back if one faile
[11:54] <GirlyGirl> s
[11:55] <Ben64> open it up, get a can of compressed air and clean it out
[11:55] <mongy> GirlyGirl: disk utility
[11:55] <|ntegra|> yeah that'd be the whole thinking behind it aye
[11:55] <GirlyGirl> mongy: No such package that I know of
[11:55] <qin> GirlyGirl: palimpsest
[11:55] <oYeVoVeYo> Ben64,  kay thanks
[11:55] <mongy> GirlyGirl: its there..
[11:55] <arand> GirlyGirl: It's actually called plimpsest, I think, but it should be installed by default...
[11:56] <GirlyGirl> arand: mongy, I use Kubuntu
[11:56] <mongy> GirlyGirl: oh idk then.. you said ubuntu :)
[11:56] <qin> GirlyGirl: kpalimpsest?
[11:56] <GirlyGirl> mongy: qin E: Unable to locate package palimpset
[11:57] <mongy> GirlyGirl: there is a command line package, smartmontools you could use
[11:57] <Ben64> GirlyGirl: palimpsest
[11:57] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: any idea what could be wrong?
[11:57] <GirlyGirl> mongy: Thanks I was looking for CLI
[11:57] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: ABout the wireless
[11:58] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: Maybe try a static ip and manual DNS
[11:58] <st4rtx> hello all any body can help me in snort?
[12:00] <|ntegra|> anyone know of a writeup about disabling cups and cups updates?
[12:00] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: the problem is it doesn't even connect.. keyphrase is 100% right
[12:00] <|ntegra|> (I notice you can't uninstall it very easily)
[12:01] <llutz_> |ntegra|: set it on hold and disable the start (change upstart script to "start never")
[12:01] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: Which wireless card and ubuntu version + do other computers connect?
[12:02] <|ntegra|> *set it on hold*?
[12:02] <|ntegra|> I get the last part
[12:02] <cvam> difference between gfortran and gfortran-4.5 packages
[12:02] <qin> !pinning | |ntegra|
[12:02] <|ntegra|> oh thank you
[12:02] <warmit> how to write a 'mount -- bind'  cmd to /etc/fstab?
[12:02] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: Ubuntu 11.04 according to lspci it's a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2]
[12:03] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: Is this a recent issue or was it always not working
[12:03] <lanthaler> other computers connect (but they are running Windows 7 and JoliCloud - don't know on which Ubuntu version that's based)
[12:03] <llutz_> warmit: dev mountpnt none bind 0 0
[12:03] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: just installed Ubuntu.. wasn't working before
[12:03] <|ntegra|> qin: you realize that prolly answers my earlier question too? thanks heaps
[12:04] <|ntegra|> pinning: never heard of it
[12:04] <seidell> i cant use sudo apt-get install command in crunchbang why?
[12:04] <warmit> llutz, can the dev part be a folder?
[12:04] <llutz_> warmit: sure
[12:04] <jrib> !crunchbang | seidell
[12:05] <warmit> llutz, thx~
[12:08] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: I know someone who had the same problem for the same card on Ubuntu they solved it by changing TKIP/AES to just TKIP in the router config
[12:10] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: will try if it works with WEP.. can't change it to just TKIP
[12:11] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: That should work ... also maybe an alternative network manager ... for that person the issue was only with Gnome's network manager but on Kde it worked
[12:11] <cvam> difference between gfortran and gfortran-4.5 packages
[12:13] <seidell> i cant use sudo apt-get install command to install anything in crunchbang why?
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> Sietse|MMS: your distro isn't supported here. This is ubuntu support only
[12:14] <Sietse|MMS> Ok
[12:14] <warmit> Is there a way to save a readonly file in vim?  just how to use 'sudo' without going out?
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> Sietse|MMS: the guys in #crunchbang wil help
[12:14] <Sietse|MMS> Wrong nickname? xD
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> gah
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> gone, thats why. Tabspazz
[12:15] <Ben64> warmit: you can save it somewhere else
[12:15] <llutz_> warmit: :w filename                save to a new file
[12:15] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: I'm using the Unity UI.. is that Gnome or KDE?
[12:15] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: do you know how to do it on the cmd line?
[12:16] <ActionPa1snip> lanthaler: Gnome usually. You can use Unity in any DE
[12:16] <pvgrif> hi, my fan is making noise, like its at mid speed, however i look at the running processes and there is nothing weird there, i left the computer for a while and when i came back it was running at this same speed
[12:16] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: Gnome
[12:16] <pvgrif> can i solve this problem?
[12:16] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: Yes but its quite complex
[12:16] <lanthaler> ActionPa1snip: thx.. how can I change that to KDE?
[12:16] <ActionPa1snip> pvgrif: get some WD40 on it and be sure it's clean
[12:16] <Ben64> pvgrif: clean out your heatsink with compressed air or get a new fan
[12:17] <ActionPa1snip> lanthaler: log off and log into the KDE session, if you replace kwin with compiz, in theory, it should work
[12:17] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[12:17] <Ben64> don't put wd40 on it
[12:17] <pvgrif> a friend told me that he heard there were problems with the latest ubuntu about it only detecting one speed
[12:17] <pvgrif> could this be it?
[12:17] <pvgrif> by one speed i mean one fan speed
[12:18] <ActionPa1snip> pvgrif: which release are you using?  lsb_release -sc  will tell you
[12:18] <pvgrif> i cleaned it like 2 months ago
[12:18] <pvgrif> 11.04
[12:18] <warmit> Ben64, llutz_, :-)  thanks~ and I find a way using this,  :w sudo tee %
[12:19] <GirlyGirl> ActionPa1snip: Unity does not start under kde
[12:19] <ActionPa1snip> GirlyGirl: it can be made to
[12:20] <pvgrif> so i take you guys havent heard of this before?
[12:20] <pvgrif> it*
[12:20] <pvgrif> should i reinstall?
[12:21] <Ben64> probably wouldn't change anything, if its the fan going bad, it will still be bad, if it is ubuntu, it will act the same
[12:21] <pvgrif> :(
[12:21] <pvgrif> ok i ll clean it again just in case
[12:21] <pvgrif> thank you all
[12:22] <tyhgu> hey
[12:22] <GirlyGirl> ActionPa1snip: How? tried the compiz replace it does not work
[12:22] <tyhgu> talking about loud fan?
[12:22] <pvgrif> tyhgu: yes
[12:22] <ActionPa1snip> GirlyGirl: in theory it should run ;)
[12:22] <Ben64> GirlyGirl: he seems to say many incorrect things
[12:23] <tyhgu> fancontrol - do you know that?
[12:23] <pvgrif> tyhgu: no i dont, is it like an ubuntu app?
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> GirlyGirl: always, unity2d ;)
[12:24] <GirlyGirl> ActionPa1snip: Plasma shell goes above it ... and KDE taskbar goes crazy with compiz
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> GirlyGirl: you can run unity2D with any WM, so should be ok
[12:26] <robert[]> I installed unbuntu fine, but when I boot into it.. I just get a black screen.. what shoudl I do?
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: what video chip do you use?
[12:26] <GirlyGirl> ActionPa1snip: Sure but then you have to kill plasma as it comes on top of unity ...
[12:27] <ActionPa1snip> GirlyGirl: I guess, only really aesthetics, could just set it to hide
[12:27] <lanthaler> GirlyGirl: I've created that /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file and tried to connect.. now I get a CTR-EVENT-DISCONNECTED when doing sudo wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[12:27] <robert[]> ActionPa1snip: I dont knwo
[12:28] <lanthaler> reason=0
[12:28] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: is it a laptop or a desktop?
[12:28] <robert[]> laptop
[12:28] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: what make and model please?
[12:28] <pvgrif> tyhgu: is fancontrol an application?
[12:28] <robert[]> dell inspiron
[12:28] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: what model inspiron?
[12:29] <robert[]> lenoveo
[12:29] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: thats not a model of inspiron
[12:29] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: try looking at the bottom
[12:29] <robert[]> n5010
[12:29] <ActionPa1snip> great
[12:31] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: ok it's an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470
[12:31] <GirlyGirl> lanthaler: No idea on that
[12:31] <ActionPa1snip> !nomodeset | robert[]
[12:32] <martin__> hello
[12:32] <tyhgu> pvgrif: it's a part of lm-sensors
[12:32] <robert[]> ActionPa1snip: thank you! I will try that
[12:32] <tyhgu> you can configure the speed of fan
[12:33] <martin__> hello I am a newcomer greetings to all
[12:33] <pvgrif> tyhgu: ok thanks i ll check it out
[12:33] <jiohdi> hi martin
[12:34] <martin__> is this an expert channel ?
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> martian, Good Morning.
[12:34] <tyhgu> check if you have lm-sensors installed
[12:34] <Triscar0> is there any peoplecounter software that i can use with ipcam =?
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> martin__, Even..
[12:35] <jiohdi> uncle martin was a martian
[12:35]  * jiohdi feels very old for knowing that
[12:35] <martin__> martian? no I from jupiter
[12:35] <jiohdi> jupiter broadcasting?
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> jiohdi, Your favorute? :D
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> sp
[12:36] <martin__> yes it takes a while
[12:36] <ndrj> Is this the right channel for general support questions?
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> Yes.
[12:36] <jiohdi> sort of
[12:36] <jiohdi> its often the channel to get told to read the manual :)
[12:36] <martin__> then I have one may I ask ?
[12:36] <ndrj> Alright, I'll try to write this as short as possible.
[12:37] <Ben64> you don't need to ask to ask
[12:38] <martin__> ok I just installed ubuntu and I woukd like details about the terminal use wher can I find a complete guide ?
[12:38] <ndrj> Trying to setup dual-boot. Got 2 seperate hard drives, one S-ATA and one old IDE. I just installed Windows 7 on the newer S-ATA and Ubuntu on the IDE. In that order. Just that Grub wonät show up so I can pick between the OSes. Im guessing its because it boots from the S-ATA, completely ignoring the IDE drive. How can I solve this?
[12:38] <bazhang> !terminal | martin__
[12:38] <_melvin_> Hi. i have a second disk mounted on ubuntu 11.04  (gnome 2.32) as /data. Nautilus don't show changes to files at all. i need to refresh the nautilus tab to see it.
[12:38] <SideSW1PE> martin__, its very huge topic :D
[12:39] <Ben64> ndrj: you can set in the bios which drive to boot from
[12:39] <ndrj> I used the "simple" way of installing ubuntu, using an USB stick. I didn't fiddle with partitions myself.
[12:39] <_melvin_> inotifywait works
[12:39] <ndrj> Ben64, if I pick the IDE drive, will I be able to choose Windows if Grub starts correctly?
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> martin__, This link, though old, has many links to terminal related sites: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171507
[12:39] <Ben64> ndrj: should, yes
[12:39] <ndrj> I dont want be forced to change bios settings every time I wanna switch OS.
[12:39] <ndrj> Aha, ok. I'll try.
[12:41] <ndrj> I now picked the IDE as first boot device.
[12:42] <ndrj> and it goes straight to Windows :(
[12:42] <martin__> thanks I had a look to the suggested links but what I am searching is a complete guide of commands
[12:42] <ndrj> Bah. I really don't get it.
[12:42] <ndrj> I can't even pick the S-ATA as boot device, it's not even in the list.
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: set the ubuntu drive as the boot drive and grub will load
[12:42] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: I just did :(
[12:42] <umadbro> martin__, search for linux command line cheat sheet, should give you that
[12:43] <martin__> I mean is any way to print the manual in a file ? instead of questioning evey time with the man command ?
[12:43] <ndrj> I think I did, at least. there's only 1 harddrive to pick in the boot priority list.
[12:43] <ndrj> and it's the IDE one, which holds Ubuntu. The sata drive with Windows on it isnt even pick-able.
[12:43] <ndrj> ...which is strange?
[12:44] <bindi> hi, why is my minecraft server on ubuntu listening on ipv6 by default?
[12:44] <Benkinooby> will using fluxbo instead of xfce bring a huge performance boost? i installed xubuntu 11.04
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, This site is a very comprehensive one and should answer all/most of your questions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index  It's what I used, in 2007 to get "on the right track."
[12:45] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: Thank you :)
[12:45] <Benkinooby> and the laptop i installed it on is quite old (pentium3, 512 mb ram).. or will puppy, knoppix or something like that be a petter choice?
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, My pleasure. "D
[12:45] <sorush20_> hi just wated to know how I can test eth0 I don't know if its active..
[12:45] <beta0x64> sorush20_, try putting every other interface down then pinging or something
[12:46] <beta0x64> there may be another way. you should be able to see how many packets are transmitted on that interface sorush20_
[12:46] <ndrj> Is there any chance that Windows wrote its boot-thingie to the IDE drive, even though it put windows on the S-ATA drive?
[12:46] <sorush20_> beta0x64: I get the message unknown interface.
[12:46] <sorush20_> sudo ifup eth1
[12:46] <beta0x64> ifconfig eth0
[12:47] <beta0x64> you will see RX and TX packets
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> beta0x64: could use ntop   (if it hasn't already been suggested)
[12:47] <sorush20_> nothing is transfered beta0x64
[12:48] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: This site has mostly Wubi help? Or am I just blind.
[12:48] <beta0x64> ActionPa1snip, not a bad idea. sorush20_, you could use ntop. It doesn't sound like there is activity though
[12:48] <sorush20_> beta0x64: I have set it up to sharing .. so my computer gets wireless then I share it from the eth1
[12:48] <beta0x64> okay. try ifconfig eth0
[12:49] <beta0x64> RX and TX means received and transmitted (i had to look it up lol)
[12:49] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, No, please stay away from WUBI...That site does refer to it due to trying to be 'complete.'
[12:49] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: Yeah, I tried WUbi and didnt like it
[12:49] <sorush20_> beta0x64: I get the message device not found.
[12:50] <beta0x64> sorush20_, then make sure you are sharing your wifi from eth1 really. you are not sharing from the correct device.
[12:51] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, Perhaps this is the page you're looking for: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing  However, if win install did some screwy things, that page might not cover that eventuality.
[12:52] <s1m0nsk1> hi - why don't mounted drives show up in the left panel in nautilus in oneiric?
[12:52] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: I tried to partition manually, using some "standard partioning scheme" provided by the official Ubuntu page.
[12:52] <sorush20_> beta0x64: so should I set the wifi to sharing or the eth1?
[12:52] <beta0x64> sorush20_, I'm really not sure but I have to leave now. Hopefully someone else can help you.
[12:52] <jrib> !oneric | s1m0nsk1
[12:52] <BlueWolf> |-)
[12:52] <beta0x64> You have to describe accurately what you want to do
[12:52] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: I did that once, but there an option where you should pick "boot device" and I was very unsure if I should pick the small boot partition I made or something else.
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, Booting to LiveCD or USB, you should be able to examine the various partitions, their 'boot-flags' etc..
[12:53] <sorush20_> I get internet throught wifi device and from this computer I want to share that internet through the eth1 of this device to another computer..
[12:53] <ndrj> You make a small partition for grub, is that the partition I should pick for "boot device" or whatever it said?
[12:54] <s1m0nsk1> ubottu: thanks, will ask there.
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, Grub should be on the main ext3/4 partition, where you intend to install ubuntu. Then, somewhere in the installation process, it'll ask, something like, where to boot; select /
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> I think..
[12:56] <DustyMonk> ubottu: you're too modest about your intelligence
[12:56] <ndrj> Lol, I just think I solved it. I changed disk order in bios, and put the S-ATA disk first, allowing me to choose the S-ATA disk as boot device.
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> 'Tis been a while since I've installed; hopefully if I'm a little off, some one will correct me..
[12:57] <ndrj> Booted off the s-ata, and there was Grub, on the sata drive, instead of the IDE drive where I installed it.
[12:57] <ndrj> and I can pick between OSes.
[12:58] <ndrj> now I just have to change Windows to default.
[12:59] <ndrj> hm, I could press E in grub and got some command list that is some file for default booting?
[12:59] <ndrj> I assume.
[12:59] <llutz_> ndrj: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/06_os-prober     && sudo update-grub
[12:59] <martin__> thanks for help by to everyone
[13:00] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, Now I'm getting confused (not that difficult these days), as long as grub lists the OSs, the only thing remaining is to ascertain id you installed both to the same drive (not your intention, I know) or if the IDE has the ubuntu install.
[13:00] <ndrj> llutz in the terminal in ubuntu, I assume?
[13:00] <llutz_> ndrj: yes. it will make grub finding windows before any linux and add it as 1st entry to grub-menu
[13:01] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: haha, im really confused too, even more so as I've always had the IDE as boot device in bios, even though Windows has been on the S-ata. And that's before I started messing with Ubuntu.
[13:01] <Sidewinder1> llutz, Thanks, I knew a CLI approach would be better; unfortunately, I'm CLI challenged.. :-(
[13:02] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: I've had windows on the IDE before I bought the S-ata though. but I formatted it, naturally. Could it still be that it had some MBR on it?
[13:02] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, Just hang in there, you're heading in the right direction, also follow llutz 's instructiond.
[13:03] <ndrj> anyway, the automatic Ubuntu installer seems to have put grub on the s-ata drive. for some reason, even though I picked the IDE as the drive to install Ubuntu on.
[13:03] <Sidewinder1> instructions, even; now all know why I'm CLI challenged. :-(
[13:03] <ndrj> or, actually. I'm not so sure any longer. I'll go into Windows and see what's what, disk wise, now.
[13:03] <ndrj> <---confused.
[13:04] <ndrj> llutz_: yeah, i'll do it, thanks alot.
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: boot to your liveCD desktop and install Grub to the other drive
[13:04] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, Win will NOT see the ext3/4 partitions..
[13:05] <ActionPa1snip> Sidewinder1: it'll see partitions, just not the data ;)
[13:05] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: that's true. I just wanna see if windows still has 500gb of space.
[13:05] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, Unless you've installed some specific drivers for win that allow it 'see' ext3/4.
[13:06] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: ooookay. the IDE is intact, it's not been formatted, at all. I must have installed ubuntu on the S-ata as well. *scratches head*
[13:06] <Sidewinder1> ActionPa1snip, Do they show up a "unrecognized?"
[13:07] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: just that....the Ubuntu install said it would use 200gb of disk space, and the S-ata in windows is 449/465gb free.
[13:07] <ndrj> ok im getting really confused, where the fuck is my Ubuntu install now? :(
[13:07] <bazhang> ndrj, no swearing please
[13:07] <ndrj> sorry :)
[13:08] <ndrj> if I go into my Ubuntu install I should see if Ubuntu is placed on the S-ATA, right?
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, It's on the Sata, you wanted it on the IDE; ActionPa1snip will give you an easy fix..
[13:08] <ndrj> booting!
[13:08] <LABcrab> Hello people!  How do you use Unicode to write an S in a box?  As in iPhone 4[S]?
[13:08] <ActionPa1snip> Sidewinder1: yeah but you can see the partition layout as Ubuntu uses standard partitioning
[13:08] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: hm, I got a USB-stick.
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> ActionPa1snip, Hope you don't mind me volunteering your time. ;-)
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: same difference
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> Sidewinder1: its lll goood
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> :D
[13:09] <ndrj> but now I should reinstall Windows on the sata, and format the sata, again, right?
[13:09] <ndrj> since it probably has Ubuntu on it
[13:09] <ndrj> :P
[13:09] <ndrj> and I dont want ubuntu on it!
[13:10] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: ok, so after I've installed windows _again_ on the s-ata. I boot up Ubuntu using the USB, and inside the live-Ubuntu thingie, I install Ubuntu using....what thing?
[13:11] <robert[]> im trying to boot the ubuntu iso off my USB but I get a grub rescue menu instead
[13:12] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, As I said ActionPa1snip is much better suited to get ubuntu on the IDE, once you've done that, you can remove ubuntu from the Sata and expand the NTFS partition to it's original size; but we're getting ahead of ourselves..
[13:12] <robert[]> how do I fix that?
[13:12] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: since the win7 install is abou 1 hour old I can just format the s-ata and reinstall it, to avoid anything messy and sticky :P
[13:13] <Sidewinder1> That'll work too and may be the easiest solution.
[13:13] <ndrj> thank god I have a laptop.
[13:13] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, Just remember, install win first, then ubuntu.
[13:13] <ndrj> :D
[13:13] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: for sure.
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> You'll get there. :D
[13:14] <Guest80755> hello, I have an issue: I installed lubuntu on my ex xubuntu machine, and I used to share the internet of the xubuntu machine with a windows xp machine, which worked fine by just ticking the internet sharing on wired connection on internet settings, but now that I installed lubuntu, it seems like it doesn't want to work
[13:14] <BlueWolf> :-))
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: why install WIndows again?
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[13:15] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: Would it be better if I had both windows and ubuntu on the s-ata, rather than on two seperate disks? seeing as the IDE is kinda old and is likely to fail soonish.
[13:16] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, That wouldn't be a bad idea, either..
[13:16] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: well, the idea was to have nothing but Windows on the Sata drive, and now it appearently holds Ubuntu as well. So I thought I'd format it and install only Windows?
[13:16] <Sidewinder1> So just leave as is.
[13:17] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: The reason Im trying to put it on the IDE is because I failed to have it on the same drive before, since I appearently always booted from the IDE, so now I've solved the OLD problem trying to solve a new problem. hahaha.
[13:17] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: if you wish, just be sure to install Ubuntu second and it will manage the dual boot. Personally I'd have a drive with Both OSes on and one with a 100% NTFS partition to store user data
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: or even better, put swap on the other drive too. small speed boost
[13:18] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: in that case, I'm already done, basically.
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> ndrj, What filesystem on the IDE, ext3/4 or NTFS/Fat32?
[13:18] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: should be NTFS
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> Was just curious.
[13:18] <ndrj> I'm just afraid that the ubuntu partitions are really small since it said that Windows had 450gb of free space.
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: just my suggestion, there is no right way or wrong way
[13:19] <ndrj> unless Windows counts it's space in an odd manner.
[13:19]  * Sidewinder1 Bows to ndrj and ActionPa1snip ...
[13:19] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: no, but that was my first idea, since I don't trust the IDE
[13:19] <ndrj> Sidewinder1: you leaving? :)
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> More coffee..
[13:19] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: get it replaced then :D
[13:20] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: yeah...I should. Or just go with this SATA.
[13:20] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip:  this is basically a lab/playwithlinux PC now.
[13:20] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: hey, is it easy to have several linux-dists on the same PC?
[13:21] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: if I ever want to play around with some hardcore linux-server dist?
[13:21] <jacquesdupontd> hi everybody
[13:22] <ndrj> K, in Ubuntu I can access both the Windows HDD, and the IDE one. There's no partition for linux-only files :P
[13:22] <ndrj> Gah.
[13:22] <jacquesdupontd> i've created a bashrc function very usefull under linux and i would like to know the easiest way of transcripting it to work on windows environment ?
[13:22] <ndrj> Im guessing it's really easy to just create a Linux partition in Ubuntu, though.
[13:22] <ndrj> using that partition manager thingie
[13:23] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: the easiest way...start over from scratch. There is virtually nothing except the concept that will carry over from linux to windows
[13:23] <pooltable> how to update java ????
[13:23] <ndrj> haha, ok...when I right click in the "file system" folder it says it has 3.9gb of free space. Im guessing this is...bad.
[13:24] <Helsinkiii> hi
[13:24] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: sure, its just another OS. Add as many as you want
[13:24] <jacquesdupontd> that's what i was thinking , but as the script was quite simple and in fact performing simple task i thought it could be easily traduce to an bash windows file
[13:24] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: Should I be worried that my "file system" only has 3.9gb of free space? I mean, where do all the programs go?
[13:24] <Helsinkiii> I switched to XFCE on ubuntu and I noticed that file transfers actually take up lots of time, compared to Nautlius where you didn't actually notice the transfer happening
[13:24] <Helsinkiii> is this a difference in actual speed, or does it just seem that way to me?
[13:25] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: for which partition?
[13:25] <Helsinkiii> (does nautlius just do it in the background?)
[13:25] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: there is no such thing as a bash windows file
[13:25] <ActionPa1snip> Helsinkiii: what app are you copying under XFCE with?
[13:26] <jacquesdupontd> yeah sorry i was talking about those little script we can create in windows but i'm not sure we can create functions like in bashrc
[13:26] <Helsinkiii> ActionPa1snip, Thunar
[13:26] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: I'm in the file manager of Ubuntu, and to the left it lists all partitions/drives, etc, you know? so, it lists the IDE and Windows ones, both NTFS. then at the top it says "myname" which probably is the "/home" partition right? and then it says "File System" which probably is the "/" partition, right? the "File System" partition has 3.9gb of free space.
[13:27] <Suhel> Hi :-)
[13:27] <jacquesdupontd> and even if i learn the language that would be need i don't know what to start with on that windows ... it seems from what i read that i should use software like powershell or something like that
[13:27] <ndrj> and I'm guessing this is bad.
[13:27] <Helsinkiii> ActionPa1snip, here's an example. In GNOME with Nautilus, a 1GB movie transfer from "Desktop" to "Videos" will happen almost instantly. In XFCE with Thunar, it opened a dialog box and took 1 minute
[13:27] <ndrj> Unless...I can make the "/" partition bigger?
[13:27] <ActionPa1snip> Helsinkiii: possibly a bug, try adding the lubuntu desktop PPA, it may have a nicer version
[13:28] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: how big is the partition with 3.9Gb free space?
[13:28] <Suhel> Hmmm... is 10.10 stable??
[13:28] <ActionPa1snip> Suhel: very
[13:29] <Suhel> ActionPa1snip: and What kernel does it use?
[13:29] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: "Volume: Unknown" It's still checking the partition for files though.
[13:29] <ActionPa1snip> !info linux-image-generic maveric
[13:29] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: anything I can write in terminal to check this faster? :P
[13:30] <Suhel> Erm
[13:30] <Drak_Tekno> Hello everyone!
[13:30] <jacquesdupontd> i think it can be done in a batch file
[13:30] <ActionPa1snip> Suhel: 2.6.35.30.38
[13:30] <ActionPa1snip> Nakkel: df -h    pastebin the output
[13:31] <Suhel> ActionPa1snip: thanks mate :-)
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> Suhel: np
[13:31] <Helsinkiii> ActionPa1snip, sorry how would I upgrade THunar if ive added the PPA?
[13:31] <Suhel> Dinner time :-)
[13:31] <ndrj> uh, should I use the gnome or KDE partition manager?
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> Helsinkiii: add the PPA, then run updates
[13:31] <ndrj> :P
[13:31] <frybye> can somebody suggest a good url to learn all about partitions - and related stuff - what is a mbr - active partition - logical parition and all that suff - where can I learn it??
[13:32] <llutz_> frybye: wikipedia
[13:32] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: this is a bit confusing, since all drives/partitions add up to more physical space than I have installed.
[13:32] <likeapenguin> xD
[13:32] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: the "/" and the windows one of 500gb must be using the same space.
[13:32] <frybye> really - that is detailed enough - hmm - never even thought of looking there - thanks..
[13:33] <llutz_> frybye: its a start at least and offers some more links for deeper info if you want
[13:33] <ActionPa1snip> Helsinkiii: what version of thunar do you have?
[13:33] <frybye> llutz_ thanks pal - bfn
[13:34] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: the command I gave with show all partitions with their used and free space
[13:34] <jacquesdupontd> found the thing i needed , thanks for help : http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/dosbatch.html
[13:34] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: that df- h?
[13:35] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: you wrote it to some other guy so I missed it, just saw it now
[13:35] <ndrj> :D
[13:36] <Helsinkiii> ActionPa1snip, 1.0.1
[13:36] <Helsinkiii> ActionPa1snip, i'm seeing it's old
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> Helsinkiii: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sxc
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> sorry
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> lsb_release -sc
[13:37] <cannot_update> Reading package lists... Error!
[13:37] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: http://pastebin.com/8z6bbVdp
[13:37] <Helsinkiii> lol it's Karmic
[13:37] <cannot_update> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[13:37] <cannot_update> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.163.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[13:37] <cannot_update> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> Helsinkiii: karmic is no longer supported dude
[13:38] <cannot_update> any one meets this error?
[13:38] <Helsinkiii> ActionPa1snip, oh that's why
[13:38] <bazhang> cannot_update, yes
[13:38] <Helsinkiii> ActionPa1snip, well....it runs on my older hardware very well
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> cannot_update: http://pastebin.com/53fBqJg9
[13:38] <cannot_update> = =! how to solve it?
[13:38] <bazhang> cannot_update, you'll need to delete some of those, as they are stored in html for some odd reason
[13:38] <cannot_update> get it.
[13:39] <bazhang> cannot_update, in this ONE case I'd advise using nautilus, but be VERY careful
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: the linux partitions look ok, what is on sdb1 ?
[13:39] <bazhang> cannot_update, or simply view in nautilus, then remove via the terminal
[13:39] <hacked_kernel> how to find a process that is consuming the disk IO?
[13:39] <bazhang> cannot_update, there should be around 10 or 11 of those at least
[13:40] <llutz_> hacked_kernel: iotop
[13:40] <cannot_update> bazhang, hope it will work :)
[13:40] <robert[]> I get the blank screen but I can hear the ubuntu drums
[13:40] <hacked_kernel> llutz, thanks
[13:40] <bazhang> cannot_update, it will. keep removing them until your update works successfully
[13:41] <cannot_update> You really resourceful <3<3<3
[13:41] <bazhang> cannot_update, I got the exact same bug, and it was very annoying until I figured it out
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> cannot_update: the commands I gave need running one after the other, usually makes things nice
[13:42] <cannot_update> save to a script, then exec.
[13:43] <ActionPa1snip> cannot_update: I have it in a script. I removed the #!/bin/bash bit though ;)
[13:43] <ptyan> i installed ubuntu with wubi as application within windows. no errors,. at the end, it told me to restart, so i did. now, i'm back in windows. how do i start my ubuntu up?
[13:43] <cannot_update> Have you play e-ink reader running linux?
[13:43] <FreeWilly> hi, im trying to get ubuntu server to automatically mount my cd/dvdrom at startup with an entry in fstab, just below the entry of my additional hd's that do mount correctly automatically at startup
[13:43] <FreeWilly> the entry looks like this: /dev/cdrom1  /mnt/cdrom  udf,iso9660  user,noauto,exec,utf8  0  0
[13:43] <fritsch> FreeWilly: you see the noauto?
[13:43] <FreeWilly> however its not atu mounting the cd/dvd drive  at startup
[13:44] <fritsch> FreeWilly: could mean that does will do "no auto" mount
[13:44] <FreeWilly> i can manually mount the drive fine with sudo mount /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom
[13:44] <fritsch> FreeWilly: from the manpage: noauto do not mount when "maount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time)
[13:44] <fritsch> FreeWilly: just replace the noauto with auto
[13:44] <FreeWilly> i see what u saying lets try, thanks fritsch
[13:45] <FreeWilly> just remove it?
[13:45] <fritsch> FreeWilly: just remove it, yes
[13:45] <FreeWilly> cool
[13:45] <FreeWilly> brb
[13:45] <fritsch> FreeWilly: a cd must be placed in ...
[13:45] <ptyan> in c:\ i can see ubuntu's root directory. it looks like it has everything it needs. i just cant find a way to start it
[13:45] <cannot_update> http://openinkport.org
[13:46] <FreeWilly> cd must be placed in?
[13:46] <FreeWilly> huh
[13:46] <FreeWilly> argh duh
[13:46] <FreeWilly> nevermind
[13:46] <FreeWilly> physically in the drive
[13:46] <robert[]> even with nomode set im getting a blank screen
[13:47] <robert[]> except it showed the ubuntu logo before going blank
[13:47] <FreeWilly> fritsch: thanks its working fine now
[13:47] <BluesKaj> nomodeset , it's one word
[13:47] <fritsch> FreeWilly: no problem. The man page might is very powerful :-) it is the good side of the force
[13:47] <FreeWilly> plz however explain to me what would happen if the box restarts without a cd inserted and fstab loads?
[13:47] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: if sda is the S-ata drive, then sdb is the IDE one, in which case it's junk.
[13:47] <fritsch> FreeWilly: just try it :-)
[13:48] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: well, you ubuntu OS is 3Gb, so you have lots of space to install new app :)
[13:48] <robert[]> how do I get it working?
[13:49] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: which partitions are using ext3 etc?
[13:49] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: could boot to safemode vga and get updated
[13:49] <shafeeq> hello, i cant sudo any command. th error msg says:sudo: "/etc/sudoers is owned by uid 999, should be 0" and other two lines. any help?
[13:49] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: yes, those are linux partitions
[13:49] <robert[]> Ill try that
[13:50] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: my sda2 must be the ntfs partition for windows files, right?
[13:50] <m477> is it possible to check by ps process just my as a user?
[13:50] <ActionPa1snip> shafeeq: boot to root recovery mode and run:  chown root:roo /etc/sudoers
[13:50] <ndrj> ndrj: but ubuntu can use that partition for storage, too?
[13:50] <ActionPa1snip> m477: ps -ef | grep $USER
[13:51] <wanderson> oi
[13:51] <shafeeq> ActionPa1snip, thanks. also, does chown on a disk from a live boot affect the distro installed in it?
[13:51] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: you don't think my linux partitions are small? :D
[13:51] <ActionPa1snip> m477: cleaner is:  ps -U $USER
[13:51] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: not at all, looks great
[13:51] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: ah, ok, nice to hear, guess im done then! :D
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> shafeeq: should be fine, the UID will be the same, but you don't need a CD, just use root recovery mode
[13:52] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: thanks for all the help!
[13:52] <Leeds27m> some time ago I set up folders to be opened by VLC (I was watchin a lot of videos)...but now, whenever I plug in my external hard-drive VLC tries to open it...and in firefox's settings, there a button for 'open containing folder', clicking this brings up VLC too, does anyone know how I can change folders to be opened by dolphin or something automatically?
[13:53] <ActionPa1snip> Leeds27m: open nautilus and right click a folder, select 'open with another app' and select nautilus
[13:53] <m_bisson> You guys are super nerds.
[13:53] <zamoras7> Hello,I need a tutorial about ubuntu hacks plz......
[13:53] <LjL> m_bisson: and that is very relevant to Ubuntu support, undubitably? :|
[13:53] <ActionPa1snip> Leeds27m: Sounds like folders are associated with opening with vlc, so the change will switch it back. Obviously set to remember the pairing
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> m_bisson: nerds make all your facebooks and twitters work, I'm sure you love those
[13:54] <m_bisson> It was a compliment
[13:54] <shafeeq> ActionPa1snip, I 'su'ed it :).  fine now. I had tried making an local home folder readable with thunar in xubuntu live before. i stopped the process quickly. after then i noticed this issue. so chowning doen't overwrite file permisissions on a global distro basis?
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> :)
[13:54] <soreau> zamoras7: What are you wanting to hack, exactly?
[13:55] <ndrj> What linux server dist would you recommend, for me to experiment with, later?
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> shafeeq: should do, root is UID 0 in the liveCD and installed OS, but its not needed and booting the CD is slower
[13:55] <zamoras7> mm realy i dont know but i want to gain a general knowlege about ubuntu hacks
[13:55] <ndrj> I'm gonna try to get it to work with remote wake-on-lan and stuff.
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: Ubuntu server or Debian server
[13:55] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: ok, ty :D
[13:55] <jpmh> I have a touch screen monitor plugged into my netbook - when I have both screens enabled, not mirrored - the system sees it as one large screen and so the touches gho in the wrong place.  How do I tell the system that touches are limited to the external screen area
[13:56] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: I'm guessing Ubuntu server is the most newbie friendly one
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: try a few, see which you like :)
[13:56] <shafeeq> ActionPa1snip, oh, actually i was trying to chown to the 'ubuntu' user in live session, and that too '/' folder
[13:56] <zamoras7> soreau:
[13:56] <zamoras7> soreau: mm realy i dont know but i want to gain a general knowlege about ubuntu hacks
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> ndrj: server is fairly generic
[13:56] <robert[]> I cant get a linux system installed :(
[13:56] <robert[]> working
[13:56] <ndrj> ActionPa1snip: kk, i just need something to serve, first ;D
[13:56] <soreau> zamoras7: That is an extremely broad topic..
[13:56] <jpmh> actually my question may be wrong - I have tried to oervride with xinput --set-prop ... and it is almost as though the command is being ignored.  I know it isn't because bad params cause errots
[13:56] <robert[]> I can install it but it doesnt work
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> shafeeq: chowning / to anythig other than what it is will make your OS not boot
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: did you try blacklisting radeon and ati driver?
[13:57] <robert[]> no I didnt, that sounds kind of difficlt thought
[13:57] <shafeeq> ActionPa1snip, no wonder i get all thse issues then. any way to revert to original user permissions? with correct username?
[13:57] <m477> ActionPa1snip: thx o/
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: its adding 2 lines to a text file, not hard
[13:58] <soreau> zamoras7: Typically you find something you want to do first to narrow down what you'd need to learn
[13:58] <robert[]> nbut I cant get a text editor
[13:58] <robert[]> I'm only in the linux installer
[13:58] <ActionPa1snip> shafeeq: reboot and hold SHIFT, select recovery mode and then select root. run:  chown root:root /etc/sudoers; reboot
[13:58] <ActionPa1snip> shafeeq: done
[13:58] <zamoras7> soreau: I want to hack my users password with john
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root. run: nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[13:59] <shafeeq> ActionPa1snip, just sudoers? what abt other folders? var? usr?
[13:59] <robert[]> ActionPa1snip: Ill give it a shot! thanks fr the sugestion
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: add the lines:  blacklist ati      blacklist radeon     (2 seperate lines)
[13:59] <soreau> zamoras7: jtr has plenty of docs on the web and isn't particularly specific to ubuntu
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> shafeeq: the file name has been absolutely referenced, the only problem is you have messed with the sudoers file and the OS doesn't like that
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: press CTRL+X, Press Y, Press ENTER
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: then run:  reboot
[14:00] <robert[]> recovery mode showed some text then went into a black screen
[14:00] <shafeeq> ActionPa1snip, i see. Thanks a lot.
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: hmm, so recovery mode does the same?
[14:00] <robert[]> yeah
[14:00] <m_bisson> I'm looking to upgrade soon and I was wondering how ATI drivers fare in Linux... can I expect decent performance compared to win7
[14:00] <soreau> ActionPa1snip: blacklist ati? really?
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: could use liveUSB to edit the file then
[14:00] <soreau> ActionPa1snip: I know of modules named radeon and fglrx but none called 'ati'
[14:01] <ActionPa1snip> soreau: makes it use vesa, should work then ;)
[14:01] <robert[]> ill try t boot off my USB but I have was thaving trouble with that eariler
[14:01] <zamoras7> soreau: but i have an bug.When i unshadow the file then when i use john it says me something about hash
[14:01] <soreau> ActionPa1snip: Just saying, ati is not the name of any kernel module to my knowledge
[14:01] <ActionPa1snip> soreau: do you know a nicer way to force failsafe vga?
[14:01] <ActionPa1snip> soreau: yea, maybe its nmy old school
[14:02] <soreau> ActionPa1snip: recovery mode?
[14:02] <soreau> ActionPa1snip: Probably booting with 'text' as kernel param
[14:02] <robert[]> when I boot of the USB I get a blank screem, but I can hear the ubuntu drums and when I press the arrow keys I can hear a click
[14:02] <ActionPa1snip> soreau: still would like Xorg just with vesa driver
[14:03] <soreau> zamoras7: You need to find a channel that is more specific to that topic since it's not directly related to ubuntu
[14:03] <zamoras7> soreau: a oka i will try to find it
[14:04] <zamoras7> soreau: I have an other question:I am using now toshiba nb200 and i want to find drivers for the craphics card where i can find them?????
[14:04] <soreau> ActionPa1snip: I can't think of an easy way to do that off hand other than not load the driver.. in which case you could just boot with gfxdrivermodulename.fakeoptionhere=1
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> robert[]: got a monitor you can hook up to the system, may help
[14:05] <robert[]> I coul plug in a monitor and see if someone shows up on that screen I guess
[14:05] <soreau> zamoras7: What gpu model is it?
[14:05] <robert[]> ill give that a go
[14:05] <zamoras7> soreau: I dont remember wait to see plz
[14:05] <soreau> zamoras7: lspci|grep VGA
[14:06] <zamoras7> soreau:  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[14:07] <soreau> ActionPa1snip: To clarify further, radeon is the open driver module name, fglrx is the proprietary module name. For X drivers, there's radeon, r128, ati and fglrx. ati auto-selects between the two former
[14:08] <soreau> zamoras7: The drivers are already installed and working by default
[14:09] <zamoras7> soreau:  Ok thank you.Realy i didn't knew that (sorry for my bad english)
[14:09] <soreau> zamoras7: Yes, intel has an open source driver which is the only one available. It changes when your kernel and X versions do
[14:10] <soreau> ugh
[14:12] <sai> hi
[14:12] <rcm> hey...
[14:12] <starsinmypockets> What's a good way to get server-wide stacks on storage availability via command line?
[14:12] <starsinmypockets> *stats
[14:12] <rcm> df -h
[14:13] <sai> i am completely new to ubuntu and wanna learn smethin abt it
[14:13] <robert[]> I just get both screens blank
[14:13] <soreau> sai: just ask
[14:13] <robert[]> if I have another monitor plugged into it
[14:13] <soreau> robert[]: What graphics card is it?
[14:13] <starsinmypockets> rcm tnx... does this show disk partitions?
[14:13] <robert[]> i dont know
[14:13] <robert[]> I think its intel
[14:13] <soreau> robert[]: lspci|grep VGA
[14:13] <rcm> starsinmypockets, yes
[14:14] <Paralell||Logic> !g
[14:14] <Paralell||Logic> bot commands?
[14:14] <rcm> I formated a server with lots of partitions, each with more and less 600GB, but when I run df -h... it shows 605GB available, but 571 free, and 1% used... this cannot be right, does anyone know what's wrong?
[14:14] <starsinmypockets> It's funny, my linode dashboard shows 100% disk usage, but df shows 32%... I'm inclined to believe df
[14:15] <tehnef> rcm: formatted capacity is less than the partition size
[14:15] <rcm> so... by making lots of partitions, I'll be loosing space?
[14:16] <zacktu> How can I prevent applications such as Firefox and Thunderbird from opening maximized? -- this has happened since i updated from 10.10 to 11.04
[14:16] <sai> is ubuntu a freeware?
[14:16] <bazhang> sai no
[14:16] <rcm> tehnef: so... by making lots of partitions, I'll be loosing space?
[14:16] <soreau> zacktu: Have you tried unmaximizing the window then closing it?
[14:16] <sai> can i have both ubuntu and MS os in same system?
[14:17] <bazhang> sai, yes
[14:17] <bazhang> !dualboot | sai
[14:17] <tehnef> rcm: i'm actually not sure of the answer to that, but even if it were all one partition the formatted capacity would be noticeably less than the drive size
[14:17] <bazhang> sai read the links
[14:17] <sai> ya sure...!
[14:17] <soreau> sai: ubuntu is free, it's just not 'freeware'
[14:18] <sai> oh!
[14:18] <rcm> hum... okay... I'm just asking because I'm loosing about 20GB in each partition...
[14:18] <sai> can i get tat downloaded?
[14:18] <rcm> 30GB *
[14:18] <soreau> ! download | sai
[14:18] <sai> ya okay! :) :) :)
[14:18] <dee-dee> Ubuntu rocks!
[14:18] <zacktu> soreau: i don't close the window immediately, but it's usually unmaximized when i close it
[14:19] <tehnef> rcm: that actually makes sense. it's only 3.33% of the partition size
[14:19] <soreau> zacktu: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:19] <m477> if i copy few files by  scp it one per file ask me for password can i miss it?
[14:20] <rcm> okay tehnef... thank you
[14:20] <zacktu> soreau: natty
[14:20] <soreau> m477: -B
[14:21] <m477> soreau: i tried i got response: Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password).
[14:21] <soreau> zacktu: It should work I guess.. do you know what window manager you're using?
[14:21] <zacktu> soreau: unity
[14:22] <FreeWilly> can anyone suggest good ups software to work with ubuntu server edition
[14:22] <soreau> zacktu: Maybe that's the problem..
[14:22] <tehnef> rcm: there also might be some conversion confusion there, too. the industry is in the middle of converting from binary sizing to SI standard, and inconstency is everywhere
[14:22] <zacktu> soreau: i've been wondering whether i should be looking a compiz settings or settings in Firefox & Thunderbird
[14:23] <tehnef> m477: if you're copying multiple files, use sftp
[14:23] <soreau> zacktu: I believe your window manager would be responsible.. have you tried classic gnome?
[14:23] <rcm> sure :D
[14:24] <sai> if i download ubuntu , wil it get installed automatically and block my current os?
[14:24] <soreau> sai: no
[14:24] <GirlyGirl> sai: You can do a dual booty and haver both
[14:24] <zacktu> soreau: i changed to classic ubuntu when booting one time and seemed to have other problems -- this was an upgrade -- i've decided to do a fresh install of 11.10 several weeks from now
[14:24] <soreau> sai: You should read the installation documentation
[14:25] <bazhang> sai read the manual
[14:25] <sai> hmm.. ya okay!
[14:25] <bazhang> !manual | sai
[14:25] <tehnef> sai: if you install ubuntu on a PC with windows already installed, it will play nice by default. if you install windows on a PC with ubuntu on it, it will not play nice by default.
[14:25] <bazhang> !wiki | sai and this
[14:25] <Paralell||Logic> bot commands??
[14:25] <bazhang> sai and the dual booting link from earlier
[14:25] <sai> yaya! wil chek that!
[14:25] <Paralell||Logic> BOT COMMANDS??
[14:25] <soreau> sai: Basically you download the image, burn it to some medium (like a cd) then boot it and see if it works ok. From there you can install it, in which case it should automatically detect other operating systems on the system and add them to the boot loader so you can select which to load on boot
[14:26] <bazhang> Paralell||Logic, what about them. ask an actual question
[14:26] <Paralell||Logic> WHAT ARE THE BOT COMMANDS?
[14:26] <sai> soreau: cool.
[14:26] <sai> okay!
[14:26] <bazhang> Paralell||Logic, lose the caps
[14:26] <tehnef> please stop yelling Paralell||Logic
[14:26] <sai> and...there are many releases of ubuntu available..
[14:26] <sai> which one shud i download
[14:26] <bazhang> sai, the latest
[14:26] <Paralell||Logic> what are the bot commands?
[14:27] <soreau> ! ubottu | Paralell||Logic
[14:27] <bazhang> !usage > Paralell||Logic
[14:27] <sai> ubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:27] <sai> ubuntu 11.10?
[14:27] <bazhang> sai, thats in 4 days
[14:27] <Paralell||Logic> thank you
[14:27] <soreau> sai: 11.10 will be released this month though it's not out yet
[14:27] <soreau> bazhang: How do you know it's in 4 days?
[14:27] <sai> oh ok. which s the latest available?
[14:27] <soreau> sai: 11.04
[14:27] <sai> ok!
[14:28] <bazhang> soreau, 9 plus 4 being 13 :)
[14:28] <GirlyGirl> sai: Although 11.10 is scheduled in less than a week
[14:28] <soreau> bazhang: How do you know it will be released on the 13th?
[14:28] <tehnef> when's the next LTS?
[14:28] <bazhang> soreau, thats what I've heard.
[14:28] <GirlyGirl> tehnef: 12.04
[14:28] <bazhang> tehnef, 12.04
[14:28] <sai> hey..there are threee diff types of downloads..i mean..a desktop CD , Server Install CD , Alternate install CD
[14:28] <tehnef> thanks
[14:28] <sai> which one?
[14:29] <bazhang> sai, desktop
[14:29] <soreau> bazhang: It's not on any official site?
[14:29] <GirlyGirl> sai: desktop
[14:29] <sai> thanku!
[14:29] <khear> soreau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[14:29] <bazhang> soreau, lets not debate this here please
[14:30] <soreau> bazhang: There's no debate.. I just asked a question about ubuntu
[14:30] <Dionix> i can not get ubuntu installer to boot from usb thumb drive, i have tried dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc i've tried manually coping files, which is where I got closest but everytime i get isolinux.bin missing or corrupt, and of course the ubuntu website only allows for you to make a bootable usb drive from ubuntu with their usb creator tool but i'm on debian
[14:31] <sai> how to execute , compile a java program in ubuntu?
[14:31] <Dionix> its really aggrivating
[14:31] <Paralell||Logic> ............
[14:31] <Paralell||Logic> ........
[14:31] <Paralell||Logic> ............................
[14:31] <FloodBot1> Paralell||Logic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <soreau> khear: Ah, thank you
[14:31] <Dionix> debian isos work fine by just cat'ing them
[14:31] <sai> how to execute , compile a java program in ubuntu?
[14:31] <Dionix> ubuntu is a pain in the ass already wtf am i doing here anyway?
[14:32] <sai> is executing java prog similar to command prompt execution in MS os?
[14:32] <m477> tehnef: and how i will get few files when '{5..10}' doesnt work?
[14:32] <kamiccolo> sai:  compile like "javac sources.java"
[14:32] <sai> oh.then its same as in MS os!
[14:32] <sai> execution?
[14:33] <me-1> Hi when will ubuntu 11.10 will out..?
[14:33] <tehnef> m477: you could always not use password authentication. that should make doing what you're trying much easier
[14:33] <GirlyGirl> me-1: 13
[14:33] <GirlyGirl> th
[14:33] <m477> tehnef: how?
[14:33] <kamiccolo> sai: run like "java dir_and_package_name.main_class"
[14:34] <me-1> GirlyGirl,  OMG 13th is so un-lucky
[14:34] <sai> thankkkuuuuu kamiccolo
[14:34] <sai> :)
[14:34] <FreeWilly> again, can anyone suggest good ups software for ubuntu server edition?
[14:34] <kamiccolo> good luck :)
[14:34] <sai> :)
[14:34] <mitoni> If I'm running beta 2, do I need to reinstall when oneiric is officially released?
[14:34] <DustyMonk> !best FreeWilly
[14:34] <tehnef> m477: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[14:34] <japro> hi, i use 11.04 and would like to have gcc-4.6 around for testing purposes, what is the most reasonable way to do that?
[14:34] <DustyMonk> !best| FreeWilly
[14:34] <bazhang> mitoni, no
[14:34] <Abhijit> FreeWilly, whats 'ups' software?
[14:35] <bazhang> !final | mitoni
[14:35] <mitoni> thanks, bazhang
[14:35] <FreeWilly> which works with an UPS
[14:35] <FreeWilly> like winpower
[14:35] <me-1> GirlyGirl,  WHY CANONICAL PICK 13TH
[14:35] <zykotick9> Abhijit, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply
[14:35] <DustyMonk> me-1: caps please
[14:35] <FreeWilly> !thankyou DustyMonk
[14:36] <bazhang> me-1stop that
[14:36] <me-1> DustyMonk,  mistake sorry
[14:36] <Abhijit> zykotick9, i know what is ups. i dont know what is ups software.
[14:36] <DustyMonk> me-1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[14:36] <me-1> 13th is unlucky number even microsoft avoids it
[14:37] <bazhang> !ot | me-1
[14:37] <zykotick9> Abhijit, in order to shutdown the machine when the battery is almost gone, software is required
[14:37] <Abhijit> zykotick9, okies
[14:37] <me-1> ubottu,  Iappriciate that .
[14:42] <cannot_update> bazhang, ...
[14:45] <cannot_update> bazhang, not solved.
[14:45] <bazhang> cannot_update, paste.ubuntu.com with errors
[14:45] <teresa_> I have done the last updates and the I cannot connect to internet, it does not seam to be a problem of driver but of dhcp, does anyone have any idea?
[14:47] <s9741> hello
[14:47] <tyhgu> hey
[14:47] <dee-dee> hi
[14:48] <s9741> hi
[14:48] <s9719> siema
[14:48] <s9741> no czesc
[14:48] <s9741> co tam
[14:48] <bazhang> !pl | s9741
[14:48] <s9719> nie ma opcji
[14:48] <s9741> fuck
[14:49] <s9741> madafaka
[14:49] <galfly> Hi everyone, I screwed up my boot record trying to get rid of grub. Computer is not booting. Any ideas?
[14:50] <salvo> hi there i got a question
[14:50] <jeroth> galfly: burn live boot cd and reinstall grub
[14:50] <rurufufuss> is there a way to disable accidental double clicks from mouses? i.e it's a mouse problem, but wondering if there's a way to stop it on the ubuntu level
[14:50] <salvo> anyone can tell me why my wireless adapter light is flashing from blue to red?
[14:50] <galfly> salvo: I did, but the computer is not reading the bootable CD
[14:50] <galfly> it is not responding anything
[14:51] <salvo> ??
[14:51] <jeroth> galfly: did you change the boot order to CD first?
[14:51] <soreau> salvo: It has LED's that apparently flash
[14:51] <galfly> jeroth: yes
[14:52] <salvo> not apparently it is indeed flashing
[14:52] <salvo> from blue to red
[14:52] <soreau> salvo: Are you having trouble with your wireless adapter?
[14:52] <jchen> ?
[14:52] <jeroth> galfly: if it is booting to CD first but is not reading CD. Then its a problem with your CD or cd drive. It shouldn't even get to grub if you did it right.
[14:52] <salvo> it looks like it works properly
[14:52] <soreau> salvo: Then enjoy the show
[14:53] <salvo> but when i am in windows led wont flash
[14:53] <galfly> jeroth: it is not getting to grub. I erased the MBR accidentally
[14:53] <galfly> jeroth: The CD is fine, working with another optical drive
[14:53] <salvo> i don't think yours is an empiryc answer
[14:54] <salvo> wireless is apparently working fine
[14:54] <soreau> salvo: They're just LED's, possibly controlled by the driver
[14:54] <salvo> but that flashing light might be something not working fine in background
[14:54] <xgt001> hello i have installed jupiter
[14:54] <jeroth> galfly:should not matter. Your mbr is on your hard-drive. If cdrom is first it shouldn't touch your mbr
[14:54] <soreau> salvo: If the card if functioning properly, I wouldn't worry much more about it
[14:55] <xgt001> i want to remove it undoing all the changes done by it
[14:55] <xgt001> any help ?
[14:55] <soreau> salvo: Do not read too far into flashing LED's. They're only lights
[14:55] <galfly> jeroth: I screwed up my MBR using testdisk
[14:55] <lauxley2> Hi, im trying to set up a dual boot with 2 allready installed OS on different hard drives, i found this http://ubuntu-georgia.org/installing_ubuntu_and_windows_xp_on_separate_drives, but the file /boot/grub/menu.lst does not exist, should i create it ?
[14:55] <salvo> mmm
[14:55] <salvo> ok
[14:55] <galfly> jeroth: I don't think it is on the hard drive anymore
[14:55] <salvo> tnx
[14:56] <jeroth> galfly: thats fine, I don't know how else to explain it. A live boot disk does not need an MBR to run. The live boot disk will re-write your MBR.
[14:56] <ghostnik11> is there a way to recover lost data from hard drive or erased data from a external hard drive
[14:57] <iceroot> ghostnik11: no
[14:57] <galfly> jeroth: seriously? Ok, I'll try liveCD again
[14:57] <galfly> Thanks!!
[14:57] <jeroth> galfly: sure np, let me know if it works.
[14:57] <K4k> Has anyone had trouble with the Fn+F9 key combination on Asus laptops which disables the touchpad not re-enabling again when you press it a second time?
[14:57] <iceroot> ghostnik11: not when deleted from the shell by "rm"
[14:57] <|ntegra|> ghostnik11: of course there is
[14:58] <Polah> ghostnik11: A mechanical hard drive, yes. A flash drive, I don't believe so.
[14:58] <iceroot> ghostnik11: as i said, delete data cant be restored
[14:58] <iceroot> !recover | ghostnik11
[15:00] <hariom> Hi, I have problem in getting sound work in my ubuntu 10.04.
[15:01] <fullmetal> hariom: fire away
[15:01] <bergelmir> whats wrong if a process has a cpu-usage of 222973011%?
[15:01] <ghostnik11> iceroot: its an external hard drive so that is a mechanical hard drive, but the problem is that it had the files on the hard drive and one day when hard drive was plugged in, the files weren't there, actually empty
[15:01] <hariom> find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd         resulted me: /lib/modules/2.6.32-34-server/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1370.ko
[15:01] <hariom> /lib/modules/2.6.32-34-server/kernel/sound/core/snd-hwdep.ko
[15:01] <hariom> /lib/modules/2.6.32-34-server/kernel/sound/core/snd-hrtimer.ko
[15:01] <hariom> /lib/modules/2.6.32-34-server/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi-event.ko
[15:01] <hariom> /lib/modules/2.6.32-34-server/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-dummy.ko
[15:01] <FloodBot1> hariom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <hariom> /lib/modules/2.6.32-34-server/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-device.ko
[15:01] <fullmetal> @gergelmir kill 9 that pid
[15:01] <kamiccolo> haruom, pastebin!
[15:01] <iceroot> ghostnik11: the best way to recover your data is your backup
[15:01] <kamiccolo> *hariom
[15:02] <bergelmir> fullmetal: so it is not working anymore?
[15:02] <UE_Use> Hello! I was just trying to install ubuntu ultimate 2.8 on an old computer, but it failed every time i tried! the computer freezes always when the screen with those ice crystals apears... (i tried first du only boot the life dvd)
[15:02] <UE_Use> could someone help pls?
[15:02] <fullmetal> if the process is in massive excess you can kill it with kill -9 (the not nice way)
[15:02] <iceroot> UE_Use: what is ubuntu ultimate?
[15:02] <ghostnik11> iceroot: backup, can u back up a external hard drive? b/c I would do that in the future to save my data
[15:02] <fullmetal> or just a regular kill if you dont want to use prescription strength
[15:02] <hariom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/704919/
[15:03] <iceroot> ghostnik11: of course you can backup it
[15:03] <Polah> ghostnik11: You do the same way you back up any data
[15:03] <UE_Use> iceroot http://ultimateedition.info/
[15:03] <hariom> kamiccolo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704920/
[15:03] <iceroot> ghostnik11: there is no differene of internal drive, external drive, flash drive, streamer, floppy and so when doing a backup from it
[15:04] <ghostnik11> polah; iceroot: so that would mean I just put the data on my external to another external or internal hard drive
[15:04] <iceroot> UE_Use: not supported here
[15:04] <|ntegra|> get it mounted properly (with a live cd like puppylinux) and I bet $5 it's fine, just a mounting issue
[15:04] <Polah> ghostnik11: YEs.
[15:04] <iceroot> ghostnik11: correct
[15:04] <hariom> fullmetal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704920/
[15:04] <blas_blas_blas_b> hi, how do I secure delete a pendrive (microusb cadreader
[15:04] <blas_blas_blas_b> ?
[15:04] <UE_Use> iceroot do you know where i could ask?
[15:05] <|ntegra|> or if it's serious, run photorec/testdisk on it (hours and hours, but works well)
[15:05] <Polah> blas_blas_blas_b, write over it using dd with input from /dev/zero
[15:05] <iceroot> !alis | UE_Use
[15:05] <UE_Use> it is the normal ubuntu just with a lot of software installed
[15:05] <hariom> kamiccolo, fullmetal: how to fix sound problem?
[15:05] <iceroot> UE_Use: #ultimateedition
[15:06] <fullmetal> hariom: what hardware are you on?
[15:06] <hariom> fullmetal: $ cat /proc/asound/cards cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[15:06] <Imy> Hello, I'm new to Ubuntu.  I followed instructions on the website to install 11.04 to a usb stick.  Tried booting off it but after the menu comes up then a load of white text then finally I get stuck on a blank screen.  Any ideas?
[15:06] <UE_Use> thanks! but there is nobody on this channel =(
[15:06] <blas_blas_blas_b> I want the microusbe not to have recoverable data, what would be the command or program I should use to delete?  Polah ...
[15:06] <|ntegra|> if you know you were attacked by a virus it's not really worth it, stuff gets overwritten badly in that case
[15:07] <iceroot> UE_Use: http://forumubuntusoftware.info/
[15:07] <fullmetal> blas: dd
[15:07] <hariom> fullmetal: Toshiba Laptop with Windows 7 as Host and VirtualBox 4.1.4 with Ubuntu 10.04 as guest.
[15:07] <Polah> blas_blas_blas_b, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXY bs=2048
[15:07] <UE_Use> iceroot thank you very much
[15:07] <iceroot> blas_blas_blas_b: be very very carefull with the dd command
[15:07] <hariom> fullmetal: audio works in one of the virtualbox images but not this newly created image
[15:07] <robinsmidsrod> if I want to build an 11n access point, which wifi network card is best supported by the mainline kernel and has the least amount of hassle and decent performance?
[15:07] <Polah> blas_blas_blas_b, replace XY with the device letter and partition number. You could leave off the partition number and do the entire device but last time I did that on a USB pendrive it make it unusable.
[15:07] <iceroot> blas_blas_blas_b: replace sdXY with the correct drive
[15:07] <robinsmidsrod> I'm planning to use hostapd
[15:08] <matrixiumn> hello
[15:08] <ActionPa1snip> hariom: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[15:08] <ActionPa1snip> hariom: did you enable the sound device in the virtualboxes config
[15:08] <blas_blas_blas_b> ok thank you Polah iceroot
[15:08] <fullmetal> hariom: did you install guest tools on ubuntu client?
[15:09] <Bigbucks> Hey, on ubuntu server, what would cause me not to be able to download proftpd?
[15:09] <hariom> ActionPa1snip:$ alsamixer
[15:09] <hariom> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory.   Yea, I have audio enabled. Driver is set to Windows Direct sound and ICH AC97
[15:09] <hariom> fullmetal: yea
[15:09] <Polah> Bigbucks: One or more of a large variety of network or system issues.
[15:09] <hariom> ActionPa1snip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704920/
[15:09] <iceroot> Bigbucks: what is the error?
[15:09] <Polah> Bigbucks: Give us more information on what sort of error you get
[15:10] <fullmetal> hariom: did you install guest tools on ubuntu client??
[15:10] <fullmetal> and in the settings for the guest you made sure to enable audio
[15:10] <fullmetal> double paste !*!
[15:10] <Bigbucks> Polah: There are no issues with the network, I can still login to the terminal. iceroot: E: Unable to locate package proftpd
[15:10] <hariom> yea, Windows Direct Sound and ICH AC97
[15:10] <hariom> fullmetal ^
[15:11] <Polah> !info proftpd
[15:11] <ActionPa1snip> hariom: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[15:11] <oCean> Bigbucks: I think the packagename is proftpd-basic
[15:11] <Polah> !info proftpd-basic | Bigbucks
[15:11] <ActionPa1snip> people still use ftp. yikes
[15:12] <Bigbucks> oCean: Polah: Same error.
[15:12] <edbian> ActionPa1snip: You say that and yet have the ubuntu repos are on ftp
[15:12] <Polah> Bigbucks: for proftpd-basic?
[15:12] <edbian> 1/2
[15:12] <Bigbucks> Polah: Yes
[15:12] <ActionPa1snip> edbian: sure but for home user data access its not hugely secure
[15:12] <Polah> Bigbucks: Do you have the universe repo enabled and have you updated your package lists?
[15:12] <ActionPa1snip> edbian: over LAN should be ok
[15:13] <juboba> how can I hide users from the login list?
[15:13] <Bigbucks> It is an install from the VPS host, I havent touched anything
[15:13] <fullmetal> hariom: sory not familiar with that error
[15:13] <Polah> Bigbucks: Run apt-get update and try again
[15:14] <hariom> ActionPa1snip:http://paste.ubuntu.com/704922/
[15:15] <ActionPa1snip> hariom: select to upload to the server and it will make a URL
[15:15] <juboba> how can I hide users from the login list?
[15:16] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: which app
[15:16] <juboba> ActionPa1snip, gdm
[15:16] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: ahhh I see
[15:16] <hariom> ActionPa1snip:http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fbc0abb98c08b4fd540be8f6b68d5529c14944b5
[15:16] <chirag_d_gr8> As soon as I updated my graphics driver and restarted, my my os freezes at the boot time
[15:16] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2471/how-to-hide-users-from-the-login-screen
[15:16] <ActionPa1snip> hariom: perect, reading
[15:16] <chirag_d_gr8> help me
[15:17] <juboba> ActionPa1snip, ubuntu 11.04 does not have /etc/gdm/gdm.schema
[15:17] <ActionPa1snip> hariom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure   run the Lucid command ther
[15:18] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: what is the output of:  lsb_release sc
[15:18] <juboba> ActionPa1snip, No LSB modules are available.
[15:19] <Bigbucks> the update did the trick
[15:19] <juboba> ActionPa1snip, lsb_releasse -sc says "natty"
[15:19] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: ok try:  sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:19] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: good enough
[15:20] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: there should be a login window app in dash, I believe you cna configure it there
[15:20] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1292065
[15:21] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: sudo gconftool-2 .direct .config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory .type Boolean .set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list True
[15:21] <ActionPa1snip> oops
[15:21] <ActionPa1snip> juboba: http://techstroke.com/hide-user-from-ubuntu-login-screen-prevent-unauthorized-login.html
[15:21] <antnash> Hey guys. Can anyone tell me how I can get my bloody bios to boot from a USB stick? It just sits at 'verifying pool data...' at the mo.
[15:22] <antnash> well, after that. Like it's trying to decide if it can boot from the usb or not
[15:22] <edbian> antnash: sometimes the usb drive is in a weird place like another hdd or some such thing
[15:22] <Bigbucks> Antnash: Some motherboards do not offer it, but when the computer is booting, try to press F12, or what ever it says to go to the "Boot Menu"
[15:23] <juboba> ActionPa1snip, mmmmm
[15:23] <ActionPa1snip> antnash: unplug the power and leave it off for about 20 mins, then plug it in and boot as normal
[15:24] <xrfang> hi, I plan to replace my 11.04 with 11.10 by a reinstall instead of upgrade, how can I ensure my encrypted home folder is safe? I have 2 partition, the home partition is standalone. thanks
[15:24] <atotclic> hello
[15:24] <juboba> thanks ActionPa1snip
[15:25] <edbian> xrfang: I don't think you can do that.  back it up before you start the upgrade.
[15:25] <antnash> That doesn't sound like it would be too successful, ActionParsnip
[15:25] <edbian> xrfang: Or just update the normal way without re-installing.  Still a good idea to backup
[15:25] <antnash> Bigbucks, I don't get a boot menu option
[15:26] <xrfang> ok, thanks edbian... I always wonder how to do that safely, but... :)
[15:26] <edbian> xrfang: sure :)
[15:26] <antnash> edbian, It's not listed under anything to do with HDDs in bios.
[15:26] <GirlyGirl> edbian: In most cases even if the upgrade goes wrong, you can retrieve files in the home folder from livecd
[15:26] <antnash> I've tried selecting USB-floppy and USB-zip as boot options
[15:26] <edbian> antnash: It was just a guess.
[15:26] <edbian> GirlyGirl: Not if it's encrypted
[15:27] <Bigbucks> antnash: When you boot up, do it as for any "F" keys?
[15:27] <ActionPa1snip> antnash: it will clear the DMI pool in the BIOS. If you cannot do it manually, that method works
[15:28] <ActionPa1snip> antnash: its a hardware issue. I'd ask in ##hardware too
[15:28] <Phr3d13> ok, i updated myself out of ubuntu again, but this time its not because of free space
[15:28] <antnash> ActionParsnip, it's not actually hanging at the DMI pool
[15:28] <Bigbucks> Antnash: USB-floppy, and USB-zip are for Floppy and ZIP drives, how old is the computer?
[15:28] <Phr3d13> there's an error that comes up when i try to boot into ubuntu, but i don't know how to access it from windows
[15:29] <antnash> If I remove the USB stick then it tries to boot from the HDD
[15:29] <antnash> It's a fairly old MB I think. Got it second hand off ebay
[15:29] <GirlyGirl> antnash: Old computers with these options normally don't boot newer devices esp if its a usb 1.1 computer
[15:29] <Bigbucks> Antnash, chances are, it does not offer USB boot.
[15:29] <GirlyGirl> antnash: However you can use a bootloader to do the job for you
[15:29] <antnash> It's an AM2 MB, so not ridiculously old
[15:29] <edbian> Phr3d13: What's the error?
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> antnash: my most powerful system is an AM2 :)
[15:30] <Phr3d13> i don't know how to get to it, but something about turning off error logging failed
[15:30] <antnash> lol
[15:30] <bima> hi, im using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with dual booting, after grub menu getting error!
[15:30] <bima> ext4- fs (sda1): vfs: can't find ext4 filesystem
[15:30] <kurisu> hi guys, having some problems with ubuntu one... first time using (setting it up) and I can't seem to connect my android to the cloud... keep gettin no peer certificate
[15:30] <kurisu> any ideas?
[15:30] <kurisu> *to connect to the cloud*
[15:31] <Bigbucks> Wait....is Gedit gone now?
[15:31] <bima> guys, anyone can help me?
[15:31] <Phr3d13> found the log, about to make a pastie
[15:31] <matrixiumn> bye
[15:32] <antnash> I'll try a diff USB key
[15:32] <Phr3d13> http://pastie.org/2666112
[15:32] <Bigbucks> Why does it say when I do a Sudo Gedit the command gedit does not exist?
[15:32] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: gedit is still in a default install
[15:32] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: use gksudo with gedit
[15:33] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: are you using kde?
[15:33] <varnie> why I am getting 403 forbidden while accessing one of my virtual hosts page?
[15:33] <Bigbucks> No I am not
[15:33] <xgt001> my fan turns on wildly just when i plugin in the ac chord... its after installing jupiter.. i removed it but still the issue persists... how do i fix it?
[15:33] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: ok, run:  which gedit
[15:33] <bima> No ideas ?
[15:33] <Bigbucks> Tried it
[15:34] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: what is the output of the command?
[15:34] <Bigbucks> I am waiting on which gedit
[15:34] <xgt001> i saw powertop output no matter what i change whenever i change the "bad" to "good" it reverts back to same config
[15:36] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: you can always run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install gedit
[15:37] <shoorik> anyone have tips on using compiz/grid on a laptop (without a numpad)?
[15:38] <bastidrazor> Bigbucks: capatialization matters. use lowercase
[15:38] <Bigbucks> (gedit:9924): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: use:   gksudo gedit
[15:38] <varnie> haha, solved it!
[15:39] <Bigbucks> Command not found
[15:39] <varnie> I forgot to assign 'AssignUserId www-data' to it
[15:39] <ActionPa1snip> shoorik: could ask in #compiz   too
[15:39] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: try:  kdesudo gedit
[15:39] <shoorik> @ActionPalsnip: thanks, will do
[15:39] <ActionPa1snip> just to test
[15:40] <Bigbucks> Command not found
[15:40] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: ok then just use:   sudo nano /path/to/file       to save and exit use CTRL+O, CTRL+X
[15:40] <ThinkT510> Bigbucks: sudo nano /file/to/edit
[15:41] <Bigbucks> WHAT IS UP WITH THIS FLIPPIN SERVER. nano didnt  work either
[15:41] <Bigbucks> I am going to re-ghost it
[15:41] <GirlyGirl> Bigbucks: don't capitalise in Gedit etc in the commands
[15:41] <ActionPa1snip> Bigbucks: if you run:  echo $PATH    is /usr/bin  there?
[15:42] <Bigbucks> Yes it is
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> weird
[15:43] <kermit> if a system locks up, with no panic message on the console, what could cause that?
[15:44] <shoorik> anyone running ubuntu on older hardware? my laptop is a 2002 model.
[15:44] <ThinkT510> !anyone | shoorik
[15:45] <ActionPa1snip> shoorik: sure, I have some old stuff here
[15:45] <ActionPa1snip> .
[15:45] <shoorik> lol love the pipe commands
[15:46] <jaguar_brazil> hello
[15:46] <antnash> Ok, I've tried a different distro, and a diff USB stick. Still no luck. Anyone got any ideas?
[15:47] <Bigbucks> Something is obviously wrong with it, I just went to the VPS control panel...."Ram Usage: 	22mb"
[15:47] <ActionPa1snip> antnash: your issue is hardware based.
[15:47] <aeon-ltd> shoorik: 2002 doesn't help, specs would be better
[15:48] <antnash> ActionPa1snip, I've had a boot from usb problem before but I managed to get it working with some help from this channel. Can't remember what I did now
[15:49] <Drak_Tekno> How do I set up mail ports to send mail??????
[15:49] <Polah> Bigbucks: If it's just a CLI and nothing is really running, then that's not abnormal.
[15:50] <Bigbucks> polah: The FTP server, and apache should have been running, I reimaged the machine
[15:51] <Bigbucks> I reimaged it, and the commands still dont work.
[15:51] <Polah> Bigbucks: They'd only be listening on ports for connections. Until something attempted to connect to them there wouldn't be much activity
[15:53] <GirlyGirl> Bigbucks: Polah #ubuntu-server should be able to offer more help for server related stuff
[15:53] <Drak_Tekno> But I want to send email and it justs sits in my out box
[15:54] <GirlyGirl> Drak_Tekno: You want to host a mailserver?
[15:54] <Drak_Tekno> what do you mean?
[15:55] <Polah> GirlyGirl: Maybe, but this is general Ubuntu help, including servers.
[15:55] <kurisu> is there a common issue with ubuntu one peer certificates on android? ... can't seem to get my phone to sync properly
[15:56] <GirlyGirl> Polah: I was just suggesting that they might be more helpful due to experience with server
[15:56] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Hey again
[15:58] <kurisu> does anyone know of a virtual machine with usb support
[15:58] <GirlyGirl> kurisu: virtualbox
[15:58] <compdoc> kurisu, I think they all do, but Ive never actually used it
[15:59] <GirlyGirl> kurisu: not the OSE one but the one on virtualbox.org
[15:59] <compdoc> usb, I mean
[15:59] <kurisu> oh ok... spent ages looking last time I used virtualBox but couldn't find anything
[15:59] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: The "main" edition and the OSE are the same thing since version 4
[15:59] <kurisu> guess I'll try it again... thanks
[16:00] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: You have to download the "Oracle VirtualBox Extension Pack" to use USB support. kurisu, same for you.
[16:00] <kurisu> so where should I install it from?
[16:00] <kurisu> apt or site?
[16:00] <compdoc> virtualbox is best when you want to run windows. but not the best for a server that doesnt require graphics
[16:00] <kurisu> apt-get*
[16:00] <oCean> kurisu: be sure to install an "extentension pack" for vbox, that'll add the usb support
[16:00] <kurisu> awesome
[16:00] <kurisu> thanks
[16:00] <theadmin> kurisu: Just download this and open in Virtualbox you already have: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.4/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.1.4-74291.vbox-extpack
[16:01] <theadmin> Wait...
[16:01] <GirlyGirl> kurisu: Note you can't use the usb device on both the host and guest at the same time
[16:01] <theadmin> !info virtualbox-ose
[16:01] <theadmin> Oh, 4.0.4. That's too old.
[16:01] <theadmin> No extension pack for that
[16:01] <theadmin> kurisu: Install the virtualbox AND the extension pack from virtualbox.org
[16:02] <kurisu> so not from the repos
[16:02] <kurisu> thanks
[16:02] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Infact, you can
[16:02] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: I have a USB device with one partition (NTFS) being used in Windows, and the second partition (Ext3) dedicated to a Virtualbox guest
[16:02] <meta-coder> There comes GirlyGirl again..
[16:02] <kurisu> ... really, how?
[16:03] <theadmin> meta-coder: Anything wrong with her?
[16:03] <meta-coder> theadmin, I don't know.
[16:05] <TranscodedDecima> hello?
[16:05] <scottamunga> Hi everybody.  Does anyone know what this means or what to do? Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~murrine-daily/+archive/ppa
[16:05] <fullmetal> transcoded: you can just ask a quesion
[16:05] <ThinkT510> meta-coder: careful what you say, theadmin is female too
[16:05] <kurisu> how do you use usb in both host and client at the same time... don't need to atm but will probably come in handy inthe future for debugging
[16:06] <theadmin> ThinkT510: I'd rather you not disclose that here in the future to avoid PM trolls. Thank you.
[16:06] <ThinkT510> theadmin: my apologies
[16:07] <fullmetal> kurisu: dont think this is possible, except for keyboard and mouse
[16:07] <theadmin> fullmetal: As stated above, I *somehow* succesfully use a USB hard drive in both the host and the guest
[16:08] <fullmetal> k
[16:08] <meta-coder> ThinkT510, oh, ...
[16:08] <fullmetal> if it is a volume then you can have the hdd mounted in the linux partition and then allow a "shared" folder in the guest session
[16:08] <fullmetal> sry did not understand the question then
[16:09] <scottamunga> FYI: Tried to google, and got no results
[16:09] <fullmetal> @theadmin make better sense?
[16:09] <theadmin> fullmetal: Sorry, well, I have no idea how it works but it does
[16:09] <kurisu> fullmetal: theadmin says it is
[16:10] <kurisu> .... I'm a bit slow... woops
[16:10] <kurisu> nvm
[16:11] <fullmetal> kurisu: go to the guest box settings and then go down to shared folders. as long as the usb is mounted in your linux os then you can connect it to your guest computer there.
[16:11] <fullmetal> then you can write to it from both ops at the same time.
[16:11] <kurisu> oh ok thanks
[16:11] <fullmetal> np
[16:12] <kurisu> so not possible with other usb (or serial) devices... i.e arduino, nxt, pic programmer
[16:12] <adrellias> hey guys
[16:12] <fullmetal> not unless the device like arduino has a mem storage that can be mounted to *nux
[16:12] <adrellias> got a question about reseting a theme. My ubuntu desktop went all cuby on me after i updated to naty
[16:13] <adrellias> how can i reset to the default nice black unity theme
[16:13] <adrellias> ?
[16:14] <kurisu> fullmetal: oh ok, also do you know if it's possible to run a virtual machine os from a partition installed os
[16:14] <theadmin> adrellias: Go to the "Appearance" tool in the settings and choose the default
[16:14] <scottamunga> Hi everybody.  Does anyone know what this means or what to do? Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~murrine-daily/+archive/ppa
[16:14] <theadmin> kurisu: Yes it is
[16:14] <fullmetal> yep
[16:14] <teresa_> I have done the last updates and the I cannot connect to internet, it does not seam to be a problem of driver but of dhcp, does anyone have any idea?
[16:14] <adrellias> theadmin: I searched for the Appearance tool in unity it does nt come up >.<
[16:14] <theadmin> kurisu: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename ~/lol.vdi -rawdisk /dev/sda will make "~/lol.vdi" point to /dev/sda. Kind of a link file
[16:14] <fullmetal> kurisu: you can even do it over a network if you use something like sshfs
[16:15] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: What's up
[16:15] <theadmin> kurisu: Work from there
[16:15] <ActionPa1snip> scottamunga: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:murrine-daily/ppa ; sudo apt-get update
[16:15] <BluesKaj> teresa_, ethernet or wifi ?
[16:15] <meta-coder> GirlyGirl, Interstellar vacuum...
[16:15] <kurisu> thanks
[16:15] <scottamunga> ActionPa1snip, I'll try that.
[16:16] <scottamunga> actually, that's what caused my error
[16:16] <adrellias> theadmin: and under system settings i have background and region and language and thats all
[16:16] <adrellias> under system there is just time etc no Appearance
[16:16] <scottamunga> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:murrine-daily/ppa
[16:16] <scottamunga> Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~murrine-daily/+archive/ppa
[16:17] <scottamunga> Wait, I'm using Lucid.  Would this be because that's a PPA for a later version of Ubuntu?
[16:17] <scottamunga> It didn't specify on the webpage
[16:17] <adrellias> theadmin: any idea what it is called from the cli
[16:17] <adrellias> ?
[16:18] <antnash> ok, nothing's working. Can I put the HDD in another pc, install there and then put it back?
[16:18] <theadmin> adrellias: gnome-appearance-preferences if I recall right, but if it's not in the control centre your theme engine probably broke somehow
[16:19] <adrellias> theadmin: awesome will dig around for it thanks :)
[16:19] <BlackBishop> W: main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[16:19] <BlackBishop> anyone can tell me how to make it work again ? :| somehow .. I broke it
[16:20] <adrellias> theadmin: will reinstall control center
[16:21] <Ken__> Can somebody help me with a wireless adapter problem.
[16:21] <BlackBishop> start: Job is already running: dbus
[16:21] <BlackBishop> but I still get that error :|
[16:22] <fullmetal> ken: just ask. if we know we will answer
[16:22] <Ken__> I'm trying to connect with a belkin adapter. It can see the network but cannot connect
[16:23] <Ken__> It keeps sending me back to the security for a password which has been entered and is correct
[16:23] <fullmetal> ken: what cipher strength
[16:24] <Ken__> cipher? I assume you mean the router power which full bars
[16:24] <theadmin> Ken__: No, like, AES, WEP, how many bits and so forth.
[16:24] <fullmetal> thats it
[16:24] <fullmetal> ty admin
[16:25] <Ken__> i don't know how where do I look?
[16:25] <theadmin> Ken__: Your router's settings maybe, but I dunno how you can get there without being able to connect, UNLESS you can use ethernet
[16:25] <theadmin> Ken__: Normally on http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.0.1
[16:25] <Ken__> I'm on my laptop so I can check it from here
[16:26] <fullmetal> nm / ken i had a similar problem with encryption on a laptop before. was only able to resolve it by
[16:26] <fullmetal> sudo apt-get install wicd
[16:26] <fullmetal> and then
[16:26] <fullmetal> sudo apt-get autoremove network-manager
[16:26] <Ken__> ok let me try thanks
[16:26] <fullmetal> ken. you will have to reboot afterward
[16:26] <theadmin> Ken__: (that needs internet connection though)
[16:26] <xangua> fullmetal: it automaticaly removes
[16:27] <Ken__> ok thanks will move computer closer to get ethrnet connect and try it
[16:27] <fullmetal> xangua: just makes me feel better
[16:28] <adrellias> theadmin: seems it was gnome-shell thats stuffing me arround
[16:28] <theadmin> adrellias: Oh, you'd guess so.
[16:28] <antnash> Anyone? Can I put an HDD into 1 computer to install Ubuntu and then transfer it to another computer? I can't seem to boot from USB
[16:28] <theadmin> antnash: Sure thing, that'll work just fine :)
[16:28] <tomodachi> antnash: yes this is quite possible, make seem its the same arch (32bit or 64 bit)
[16:28] <antnash> excellent! ta :)
[16:29] <tomodachi> antnash a 64bit install wont work on a 32 bit machine
[16:29] <theadmin> The opposite, however, is indeedly possible, antnash.
[16:32] <morkblod_> #ubuntuusers
[16:32] <ikonia> morkblod_: ?
[16:32] <jpmh> when I run xinput --set-prop it appears to work but no actual change seem to happen - I need to reset the positioning of my touch screen
[16:33] <rcmaehl> okay chromium stopped responding, so I xkill'd it now it's saying something about not being able to read the preferences. How do I fix this?
[16:33] <greenit> hi, i have a problem... i have a wlan-router and my computer is connect via wlan to it, when i start ubuntu it connects automatically, no problem, however, when i restart the router, ubuntu doesn't connect again.... can any1 help me? i have alrdy enabled "available for all users"
[16:33] <theadmin> rcmaehl: Real suggestion: Stop using Chrome. Serious suggestion: Remove ~/.google-chrome and try again.
[16:34] <RightLegRed> Hello, could someone assist me with a Java issue I'm having? Here it is pastebin'd http://pastebin.com/udLTEaV3
[16:34] <RightLegRed> It is a problem when running "minecraft"
[16:35] <RightLegRed> the issue only seems to occur on Ubuntu, my W7 doesn't have this issue
[16:35] <theadmin> RightLegRed: Minecraft doesn't work with OpenJDK
[16:35] <theadmin> RightLegRed: Use the Oracle's JRE
[16:35] <RightLegRed> theadmin, I have people telling me otherwise
[16:35] <RightLegRed> I have tried to use Sun
[16:35] <rcmaehl> theadmin: it's chromium
[16:35] <rcmaehl> not chrome
[16:36] <theadmin> rcmaehl: Then it'd be named something like .chromium or whatnot
[16:37] <azertyui> hi there
[16:37] <greenit> RightLegRed, i also used openjdk to play minecraft, but probably they have changed their needs (i played it in april) since then and are now using functions from java7, where no openjdk is available
[16:37] <azertyui> i fotgot ftp password
[16:38] <theadmin> greenit: No, Minecraft should work with Java6
[16:38] <azertyui> how to reset ftp password ?
[16:38] <theadmin> azertyui: We can't help with that
[16:38] <greenit> theadmin, k, then nothing changed^^
[16:38] <theadmin> azertyui: We don't provide any FTP services, do we.
[16:38] <theadmin> greenit: Hm, okay, then weird
[16:38] <Guest40197> does anyone have a copy of the default compiz config for unity... was messing around and have messed up my desktop
[16:38] <Guest55000> hello
[16:38] <RightLegRed> the issue, I've been told is with my proprietary drivers
[16:39] <theadmin> greenit: Probably some weird hardware configuration, like a kerosene-powered cheese grater, what do you think?
[16:39] <RightLegRed> Something to do with my CPU
[16:39] <RightLegRed> err, gpu
[16:39] <azertyui> what ?
[16:39] <azertyui> are you user ? theadmin
[16:39] <theadmin> azertyui: Made no sense. Redefine.
[16:39] <greenit> theadmin, seems like a kernel-issue to me, probably a misconfigured kernel?
[16:40] <theadmin> greenit: Could be too, but I think stock ones should work fine...
[16:40] <sammy> has anyone tried to build source packages from a newer version using apt-get before?
[16:40] <kurisu> does anyone have a copy of the default compiz config for unity... was messing around and have messed up my desktop
[16:40] <greenit> theadmin, true
[16:40] <azertyui> well
[16:40] <lordjj> theadmin, he might be askin if u do drugs
[16:40] <ikonia> sammy: you don't build source packages with apt-get
[16:40] <azertyui> how to redefine FTP password ?
[16:41] <fullmetal> sammy: you build with ./configure , make , make install normally
[16:41] <sammy> ikonia: excuse me. has anyone tried to use apt-get -b source packagename -t targetdistribution
[16:41] <sammy> in order to build packages from their newer versions on an older distribution
[16:41] <rcmaehl> theadmin: there is no .chromium
[16:41] <ikonia> sammy: that will be from the current repo, so will not be a different version
[16:41] <rcmaehl> you sure it's not in like local or config
[16:42] <fullmetal> rcmaehl: in your file browser hit ctrl+h
[16:42] <Ken__> fullmetal: That worked perfectly thanks!!
[16:42] <rcmaehl> fullmetal: I know
[16:42] <fullmetal> np ken
[16:42] <rcmaehl> fullmetal: also I prefer to use terminal for file browsing
[16:42] <theadmin> rcmaehl: Could be, just search for it
[16:42] <sammy> ikonia: ikonia and if you have a repository from a newer version in your sources.list, it should apparently try to use that
[16:42] <fullmetal> rcmaehl: good for you, gui is a waste of time
[16:42] <sammy> ikonia: specifically if you define a deb-src line from a newer distribution
[16:42] <lordjj> rcmaehl, Places > Home Folder > .cache
[16:43] <ikonia> sammy: that would be unwise as at that time, your source repo will conflict with your current
[16:43] <ikonia> sammy: however most packages would fail in that situation due to dependencies failing to match
[16:43] <BouerBouer> hey guys, how do you open a folder through terminal?
[16:43] <sammy> yeah, i get that
[16:43] <BouerBouer> what is the command you need to enter?
[16:43] <sammy> yet its the suggest way to do it
[16:43] <theadmin> lordjj: False. We're searching for the config folder, not for the chromium cache
[16:43] <sammy> if the dependencies dont fail
[16:43] <theadmin> BouerBouer: cd
[16:43] <ikonia> sammy: who says it's the suggested way ?
[16:43] <ikonia> sammy: it's certiainly not a way I'd suggest doing at all
[16:43] <BouerBouer> theadmin: thanks
[16:43] <sammy> help.ubuntu.com
[16:44] <sammy> and the debian documentation
[16:44] <sammy> and I dont understand why its not suggested
[16:44] <ikonia> sammy: then do it if you feel comfortable with it - I wouldn't
[16:44] <sammy> why not
[16:44] <sammy> everyone says this yet they don't say why its possibly bad
[16:44] <BouerBouer> okay guys need a bit of help, I'm connected to my iPod via SSH, how do I open and explore it wirelessly?
[16:44] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: ~/.config/chromium   I believe
[16:45] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Thanks. What's with the 1?
[16:45] <ikonia> sammy: because it's blind - it's the equivilent of doing "./configure && make && make install"
[16:45] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: which 1?
[16:45] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: The one in your nickname
[16:45] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: It's normally an "r" :D
[16:45] <sammy> the whole point of having apt ikonia how is it blind? the source package apt-get is downloading from the newer repo has a control file, complete with dependencies
[16:45] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: yeah, bit weird. Let me check that out
[16:45] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: didn't notice
[16:45] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: tahnks :)
[16:45] <utente> !list
[16:46] <lordjj> rcmaehl, might as well purge and reinstall. right? theadmin?
[16:46] <theadmin> lordjj: I dunno if purging removes user-generated configs
[16:46] <sammy> sorry youre not the first person to completely contradict both the ubuntu and the debian docs about this. i think maybe they need to be updated, and Id be happy to, if people could adequately explain the possible pitfalls
[16:46] <fullmetal> lordjj: cannon to kill a mosquito
[16:46] <rcmaehl> lordjj: the problem I think according to ls -al is that Preferences appears to be owned by root right now for some reason
[16:46] <fullmetal> but effective
[16:46] <ikonia> sammy: maybe people like myself are wrong, so don't update something you don't understand
[16:47] <lordjj> fullmetal, XD
[16:47] <jiltdil> I made a program and compiled it, but when i went to run it , it says permisson denied. The matter is that when i was executing the previous program it was working find but for this it is showing permisson denied why it happens ?
[16:47] <rcmaehl> lordjj: yep
[16:47] <rcmaehl> that was the problem
[16:47] <ikonia> jiltdil: many reasons, you compiled it, you should be able to debug it
[16:47] <rcmaehl> yay
[16:48] <ikonia> jiltdil: what have you done so far to debug it ?
[16:48] <rcmaehl> I don't have to purge my config
[16:48] <theadmin> jiltdil: chmod +x blah
[16:48] <theadmin> jiltdil: Well, for starters.
[16:48] <jiltdil> theadmin,  to issue of this as the previous program is woring fine
[16:48] <theadmin> jiltdil: Also make sure it's not on a FAT/NTFS device
[16:48] <ikonia> jiltdil: what have you done so far to debug it ?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: better :)
[16:49] <Suhel> ay ay the world
[16:49] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I guess this is because "r" and "1" are on the same key in some of Android's keyboards (including the default Swype), amirite?
[16:49] <BouerBouer> hey guys, trying to connect to my iPod via SSH on Ubuntu 11.04, how do I do this?
[16:49] <ikonia> BouerBouer: you can't, you need it to be jailbroke
[16:50] <fullmetal> bouer: you looking for a file browser?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: i'm ssh'd home right now, very weird
[16:50] <BouerBouer> ikonia: it's jailbroken
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: on android kboards they are quite close though
[16:50] <BouerBouer> fullmetal: yeah basically
[16:50] <ikonia> BouerBouer: jailbreaking/enabling ssh on apple devies isn't something we do
[16:50] <jiltdil> ikonia: i think the program has no any issue
[16:50] <ikonia> jiltdil: not what I asked, I asked what you had done to debug it
[16:50] <fullmetal> ikonia is right, root and come back... or switch to an android and use sshdroid...
[16:51] <Suhel> I've installed Htc Phonepad to get rid of the keyboard
[16:51] <Suhel> :D
[16:51] <BouerBouer> fullmetal what you mean by root?
[16:51] <ikonia> Suhel: how is that an #ubuntu issue ?
[16:51] <BouerBouer> I'm on an iPod Touch here not an iPhone
[16:51] <ikonia> BouerBouer: please discuss in ##apple
[16:51] <fullmetal> root / jailbroken / godmode/ pwned phone
[16:51] <Suhel> ikonia: if you follow up a bit above they were talking about android keyboard
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> fullmetal: I use connectbot here :)
[16:52] <Suhel> fullmetal: hi man
[16:52] <fullmetal> parsnip, does it allow for ssh
[16:52] <BouerBouer> ikonia okay
[16:52] <fullmetal> suhel: cheers!
[16:52] <theadmin> fullmetal: Connectbot is an SSH/Telnet client
[16:52] <theadmin> fullmetal: Also a terminal emulator.
[16:52] <fullmetal> got that one
[16:52] <ikonia> guys - the apple jailbreaking discussion stops.
[16:52] <jiltdil> ikonia:not in executable format: File format not recognized
[16:53] <ikonia> jiltdil: please stop talking to me unless you can understand this question and respond "what have you done to debug this problem"
[16:54] <PTYAN> riddle me this; what makes my caps lock change from a toggle to a permanent "on" button?
[16:54] <Suhel> ikonia: why are you getting irritated for lil things? had a bad day? / anyways I was thinking how do I backup dependencies of an application
[16:54] <BouerBouer> fullmetal: can you get connectbot on Ubuntu?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> PTYAN: faulty keyboard maybe
[16:54] <PTYAN> google tells me to get ubuntu tweaks< but the software getter says it doesnt work
[16:54] <ikonia> Suhel: because the topic of this channel is Ubuntu support discussion. Please follow the topic.
[16:54] <PTYAN> exist*
[16:54] <PTYAN> hard to type holding shift
[16:55] <feisar> hi, if I want to add sound to Ubuntu server do I go with ALSA? I'm a little confused as to whether I should be using or installing pulse?
[16:55] <fullmetal> bouer none of this will do any good unless you have root / ikonia is right, you may want to surf over to #iphone
[16:55] <ikonia> PTYAN: I don't believe ubuntu-tweaks is in the repos as it's not something the ubuntu project builds/supports
[16:55] <fullmetal> or #apple
[16:55] <Suhel> ikonia: yup I know, do you know a way to backup dependencies of an installed application on ubuntu?
[16:55] <PTYAN> i added the ubuntu tweak repository or smething
[16:55] <ikonia> Suhel: dependencies are installed with packages, so there is no point in backing them up
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> PTYAN: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/disable-and-enable-caps-lock-in-ubuntu.html   may help
[16:56] <Suhel> ikonia: I'd backup up Wine's deb packages from /var/cache/apt/archives but when I tried to use it in my other pc it wont get installed, thats why I was asking the question
[16:57] <ikonia> Suhel: and, as I explained the depenencies should be pulled in by the package/repo - so installing dependencies without the correct dependency packages is a very bad idea as it will put your local package manager out of sync
[16:57] <th0r> Suhel: use aptoncd to create a cd/dvd of the apt archives, then on the second machine define that cd as a repo.
[16:58] <PTYAN> ActionParsnip: i appreciate your link but it is ineffective
[16:58] <Suhel> ikonia: sorry, package/repo is a terminal command? / th0r: I will give it a try
[16:58] <ikonia> Suhel: is there a reason you are just not installing wine through the package manager ? why are you backing up the .deb ?
[16:59] <BouerBouer> hey guys how to open up a folder in the GUI through ubuntu?
[16:59] <BouerBouer> through terminal*
[16:59] <ikonia> BouerBouer: "cd /directory/name"
[16:59] <ikonia> BouerBouer: it's documented on https://help.ubuntu.com
[16:59] <Suhel> ikonia: I've used backed up deb packages to install and they worked, the reason is I dont have internet connection on the other pc
[16:59] <BouerBouer> ikonia: that just opens it up in terminal, I mean to open it up through the explorer GUI sort of thing what's the official name for it again?
[17:00] <ikonia> BouerBouer: open the file manager, and click on the directories to get there - just like windows file maanger or mac os x
[17:00] <PTYAN> i dont even think i pushed caps lock. it just turned on and wont turn off
[17:01] <xgt001> i have a proble due to an app called jupiter.. which messed up my acpi settings on ac... how do i restore ubuntu defaults... please assist
[17:01] <PTYAN> and no screen brightness control on battery is kind of difficult
[17:01] <BouerBouer> ikonia: can't do that because the electronic device I am connecting to through SSH is not showing up there
[17:01] <th0r> BouerBouer: it is nautilus in gnome...I think 'nautilus /dir1/dir2' should work
[17:01] <BouerBouer> ikonia: I can only access it for- brilliant thanks for that th0r
[17:01] <ikonia> BouerBouer: I've told you - STOP asking for apple support
[17:01] <Suhel> th0r: can you help me a bit?
[17:01] <Promille> BouerBouer: use ALT+F2 and the directory name. in example /home/peder/
[17:01] <BouerBouer> ikonia: oh okay didn't know apple invented SSH
[17:01] <Suhel> ikonia: any ideas?
[17:02] <ikonia> !apt-on-cd | Suhel
[17:02] <ikonia> !aptoncd | Suhel
[17:02] <ikonia> Suhel: sorry, check that out
[17:02] <xgt001> how to reset to default ubuntu acpi settings?
[17:03] <qwaz> lol how was that guy asking for apple support?
[17:03] <Suhel> ikonia: I just installed aptoncd, do I've to backup all the files that aptoncd creates or just the ones with wine in their name
[17:03] <ikonia> Suhel: do that lot as the dependencies are not just called "wine"
[17:03] <th0r> Suhel: do them all....the dependencies probably don't have wine in the name
[17:04] <theadmin> I don't think Wine depends on a lot of stuff, honestly, I know it depends on X and on some... libraries, can't remember which
[17:05] <Suhel> ikonia: thor: one last question. in order to run aptoncd I would need to install it on the other computer so can I atleast find a way to install AptonCd without internet? | Oh God, tis so confusing
[17:05] <Phr3d13> i can't boot into my most recent kernel, how do i fix this?
[17:05] <th0r> Suhel: not necessary, just add the cd as a repo in synaptic
[17:05] <ikonia> Suhel: no, you just point it at the media as a software repo
[17:05] <ikonia> !repo | Suhel
[17:06] <The_BROS> How can I manage my iPod and iPhone in Ubuntu?
[17:06] <theadmin> The_BROS: Rhytmbox allows for that, if I recall correctly.
[17:06] <Suhel> ikonia: thanks alot for the help I wil try it straightaway
[17:06] <th0r> The_BROS: gtkpod maybe
[17:06] <ikonia> Suhel: no problem
[17:06] <Phr3d13> so does banshee i believe
[17:07] <asdf121314> Hi. When I try to open an .html file, both Firefox and Midori display my home page instead. Any ideas?
[17:07] <fullmetal> phr3d13: try holding shift on boot and selecting an older kernel from the grub menu
[17:07] <theadmin> asdf121314: Some weird Javascript in it? Weird name?
[17:07] <asdf121314> nope
[17:07] <The_BROS> theadmin: Is Rhythmbox worth for to change standart Banshee?
[17:07] <theadmin> The_BROS: I don't think so
[17:07] <Phr3d13> fullmetal, i'm in an old kernel now, how do i fix/replace the newest one?
[17:08] <lordjj> xgt001, what exactly is messed up?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> !ipod
[17:08] <The_BROS> theadmin: but how about iPhone?
[17:09] <Phr3d13> asdf121314, try opening it from within firefox or your other browser instead of opening it from nautilus, etc...
[17:09] <Suhel> ikonia: before I logout, I just opened syn. on my pc (the one am using right now) but couldnt get a way of adding a cd :(
[17:09] <theadmin> The_BROS: I don't know... I don't use Apple products.
[17:09] <ikonia> Suhel: did you check the link I gave you
[17:10] <Suhel> ikonia: the aptoncd one or respo one?
[17:10] <ikonia> Suhel: the repo one
[17:11] <xgt001> lordjj, i installed jupiter which changed my power settings... even after i do sudo apt-get purge jupiter it wont revert back to the old
[17:12] <nocturnal_> ver 127.0.0.1
[17:12] <lordjj> xgt001, I mean what is it about the power settings that's bothering you? e.g: CPU performance? Screen dimming?
[17:13] <saparmurat_> join #ubuntu-rs
[17:13] <asdf121314> Opening from Firefox works, but that's not always possible. Opening from file manager, or when a program tries to open a file or URL with firefox, results in my home page being displayed instead
[17:13] <qwaz> when pipeing output of lets say nmap for example to les like so nmap localhost | less     How do exit out of the output without having to scroll all the way to the bottom by pressing enter?
[17:14] <mike__> ciao
[17:14] <asdf121314> Midori is the same, but not elinks or rekonq
[17:14] <rustyshackleford> trying to get output to a TV. I have a DVI to VGA adapter on my graphics card, and it outputs to my VGA monitor fine. I have a VGA to component video cable, and my TV set says its not getting any signal from the component cable. Any thoughts?
[17:14] <asdf121314> qqaz: try q
[17:14] <theadmin> qwaz: q
[17:15] <asdf121314> OK. How do I change my default browser?
[17:15] <soreau> rustyshackleford: What graphics driver are you using?
[17:16] <feisar> I'd like to install ubuntu-desktop on a server (so I have to login screen and desktop) but I don't want all the office and email stuff, can I use apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --without-recommends?
[17:16] <tensorpudding> asdf121314, checked Preferred Applications
[17:16] <GirlyGirl> feisar: Why not lubuntu-desktop then?
[17:16] <theadmin> feisar: Just apt-get install gnome
[17:16] <GirlyGirl> feisar: Its really light and small idea for server
[17:16] <feisar> GirlyGirl: thanks, what's that?
[17:16] <GirlyGirl> !lxde | feisar
[17:16] <asdf121314> tensorpudding: thanks. Great nick brw
[17:16] <rustyshackleford> soreau: the proprietary ATI FGLRX driver
[17:17] <saparmurat_> hi everyone
[17:17] <meta-coder> GirlyGirl, ....
[17:17] <GirlyGirl> !lubuntu | feisar
[17:17] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: Yes?
[17:17] <feisar> GirlyGirl: cheers, I'll check itout
[17:17] <saparmurat_> can someone recomend any 2 TB internal hard disk
[17:17] <soreau> rustyshackleford: It should support the randr extension afaik.. you might want to check 'xrandr'
[17:17] <theadmin> saparmurat_: Check ##hardware
[17:17] <saparmurat_> i#m about to buy a new computer
[17:17] <saparmurat_> thanks
[17:18] <fabri> ciao
[17:18] <jiltdil> ikonia:http://pastebin.com/2djaSKLZ see this
[17:18] <fullmetal> saparmurat: WD caviar Blue
[17:18] <fabri> list
[17:18] <soreau> rustyshackleford: You may have to explicitly tell it to enable the output since it probably won't detect your tv being plugged through the VGA adapter
[17:18] <meta-coder> GirlyGirl, Yes?
[17:18] <asdf121314> Thanks for suggesting Preferred applications, but it only offers Firefox or Midori, even though I have elinks and rekonq also installed. Wat do? ;_;
[17:18] <feisar> so will apt-get install gnome give me Unity and the new login screen etc?
[17:18] <ikonia> jiltdil: don't bother messaging me again - I've asked you 4 times "what have you done to debug this problem" and each time you ignore the question.
[17:18] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: You were the first to say something . ...
[17:18] <theadmin> feisar: It will give you the login screen, unity is a separate package though
[17:19] <rustyshackleford> soreau: do you know a walkthrough on how to do that? not sure I'd know how
[17:19] <feisar> theadmin: thanks, I think that's the way I'll go
[17:19] <soreau> rustyshackleford: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[17:19]  * theadmin doesn't like gnome depending on gdm
[17:19] <theadmin> Someone should fix that
[17:19] <compdoc> GirlyGirl, Im d/l lubuntu now - gonna see what its like
[17:19] <nexusz99> I'd like to static compile with Makefile. I tried ./configure --enable-static  but it doens't work
[17:19] <rustyshackleford> soreau: thanks, I'll go read and give that a shot
[17:20] <ikonia> nexusz99: is --enable-static an option for that software ?
[17:20] <soreau> rustyshackleford: You'll need the output enabled with an appropriate mode. There's no guarantee it will work
[17:20] <nexusz99> ikonia: yes. I building upstart..
[17:20] <zykotick9> feisar, (unless something has changed) trying to install the "gnome" package will fail, use gnome-desktop-environment instead
[17:20] <feisar> there is not much difference between installing gnome and ubuntu -desktop
[17:20] <ikonia> nexusz99: so what makes you think it's not working ?
[17:20] <jiltdil> ikonia: used starce
[17:21] <ikonia> jiltdil: don't bother messaging me again please.
[17:21] <GirlyGirl> feisar: Installing gnome will not give you unity
[17:21] <nexusz99> output file is not static library file.
[17:21] <GirlyGirl> feisar: You will have a classic gnome 2 environment
[17:21] <jiltdil> ikonia: ok i got the solutin buddy cool , i debugged it
[17:21] <nexusz99> ikonia: output file is not static library file.
[17:22] <Suhel> ikonia: syan. not able to find the cd, I mounted it on /media/cdrom but syan. just wont detect it
[17:22] <Guest91421> how do you get the mic on the ps3 eye to work?
[17:22] <ikonia> Suhel: I don't know what syan is
[17:22] <feisar> GirlyGirl: i see, thanks again. This is a home media type server so I'm just gunna go with ubuntu-desktop (people are familiar with that)
[17:22] <rustyshackleford> soreau: its $3 for a DVI -> component cable, or DVI-> HDMI. Think it'd automatically find it without the adapter?
[17:22] <Suhel> ikonia: synaptic package manager
[17:22] <ikonia> nexusz99: it shouldn't be a library, it should be the normal executable, statically linked
[17:23] <ikonia> Suhel: did you add it to the sources config as the link I showed you explains
[17:23] <ikonia> Suhel: did you read the link I gave you
[17:23] <asdf121314> How are apps counted as web browsers for the purposes of 'preferred applications'? I'm not getting elinks or rekonq as options (this is within GNOME 2)
[17:23] <th0r> Suhel: did you remember to Reload after adding the cd ?
[17:23] <nexusz99> ikonia: oh yes yes. But output file is normal executable file and dynamic linked,, I want static Linked..
[17:23] <Suhel> ikonia: lemme check the link again :(
[17:23] <theadmin> asdf121314: I think only apps which provide x-www-browser are listed.
[17:24] <lordjj> feisar, there's also xubuntu
[17:24] <soreau> rustyshackleford: I think it would be more likely to auto-detect an output that has the same native connector as what's on the card's crtc output
[17:24] <GirlyGirl> asdf121314: You want to set a default browser?
[17:24] <ikonia> nexusz99: interesting,
[17:24] <sherorox> hey I need some help with compiz. Anyone willing?
[17:24] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: Post the entire help request
[17:25] <soreau> rustyshackleford: I believe dvi and vga are the same signal, and possibly hdmi (sans audio) but s-video (pal/ntsc formats) are a different signal type
[17:25] <feisar> lordj: thanks, if it were just me using it (and I needed a desktop) I'd go with something like that
[17:25] <ikonia> nexusz99: thought about looking in the make file to see what it's actually doing (rather than trusting configure)
[17:25] <nexusz99> ikonia: Ok thanks
[17:26] <soreau> rustyshackleford: And if you have the option of using hdmi, I'd probably try that
[17:26] <rustyshackleford> hmm. kay. i'll muck about in the xorg for a spell, see what I come up with, and wait for that to show up in the mail.
[17:26] <rustyshackleford> thanks
[17:26] <asdf121314> GirlyGirl: Yes.
[17:26] <asdf121314> GirlyGirl: Any thoughts?
[17:26] <GirlyGirl> asdf121314: Hmm what desktop environment do you have
[17:26] <asdf121314> GirlyGirl: Gnome 2
[17:26] <sherorox> girlygirl: I want to enable rotate cube so it tells me "enable desktop cube", ok, and then"disable desktop wall", ok then it says "disable these plugins required for unity" but then unity will get disabled and my interface is useless
[17:27] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: That's probably one of the many bugs in unity or your g card does not support it
[17:27] <GirlyGirl> asdf121314: Check in the settings menu
[17:27] <GirlyGirl> asdf121314: In KDE its in system settings > Default Apps ... should be similar on Gnome
[17:28] <GirlyGirl> asdf121314: or http://www.linuxhelp.net/forums/Setup_Default_Gnome_Browser_t3428.html
[17:30] <asdf121314> GirlyGirl: That tool isn't providing the 'custom brower' option to me.
[17:30] <Cogito446> |/back|
[17:30] <Lord`Saladin> I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and have it running with Gnome. When I try to change my wallpaper, it doesn't do anything. I go to System > Preferences > Appearances > Background and click on one of the thumbnails, but nothing happens. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:30] <GirlyGirl> asdf121314: http://www.linuxhelp.net/forums/Setup_Default_Gnome_Browser_t3428.html
[17:32] <asdf121314> GirlyGirl: Thats the same link. The advice is "select the Custom Web browser". There is no such option any more.
[17:32] <nankura> hey guys
[17:32] <nankura> i just downloaded ubuntu 11.04 and im wondering
[17:32] <nankura> does compiz still have that annoying memory leak?
[17:32] <theadmin> nankura: What memory leak?... Not that I know of
[17:33] <ptyan> so my caps lock situation sorted itself out. randomly.
[17:33] <fullmetal> ptyan: sticky keys?
[17:33] <nankura> It was confirmed on the forums ages ago. during the beta of 11.04 ubuntu and the new version of compiz had a major memory leak
[17:33] <nankura> were over time compiz would consistantly increase in memory usage
[17:34] <fullmetal> coke or pepsi? jk
[17:34] <asdf121314> GirlyGirl: I'm trying to work around that when I open a file with either Firefox or Midori, they display my home page instead, and when they are called from within another application, I don't have a choice of browser.
[17:34] <asdf121314> GirlyGirl: So I can't 'just use another one' or 'just open it from within firefox'
[17:35] <mang0> I can't run Thunderbird because I apparently am already running it. How do I exit it from terminal?
[17:35] <theadmin> mang0: killall -s 9 thunderbird
[17:35] <mang0> theadmin: Thanks
[17:36] <mang0> thunderbird: no process found ( theadmin )
[17:36] <sneumann> evening
[17:36] <asdf121314> reinstall
[17:36] <theadmin> mang0: Uhm, weird... Check the process manager for anything related
[17:36] <asdf121314> the OS
[17:37] <fullmetal> mang0: ps -A
[17:37] <meta-coder> Help, I have a USB ADSL router that requires the module rndis_host to get detected. I've added it to /etc/modules but still the router won't get detected.. Saw the dmesg log, and  I think that it requires rndis_wlan module too. I tried adding all the dependency modules of rndis_host and rn_wlan but still my router won't get detected... Help
[17:37] <fullmetal> or ps -A | less
[17:37] <mang0> fullmetal: I've got htop installed :P
[17:37] <mang0> thanks though
[17:37] <fullmetal> ah
[17:37] <mang0> aha! found you thunderbird >:C you shall die!
[17:38] <sneumann> meta-coder: try adding them manually first, using modprobe rn_wlan and whatever, before bothering to make that persistent by adding to /etc/modules
[17:38] <mang0> fullmetal, theadmin: Sorted, thankyou. :)
[17:39] <fullmetal> np
[17:39] <sherorox> girlygirl: my gpu could do all of these effects before. every time I check an effect, like wobbly windows it doesnt work
[17:40] <sneumann> Hi, I am bitten by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/596554 , I had a working natty, and after updating to oneiric my logical volumes are always inactive. grub2 will drop me to busybox, where I lvm lvchange -ay /dev/path/to/lv and can continue to boot, but same problem after next reboot.
[17:41] <meta-coder> sneumann, ok i'll try that.. there is a certain period of time during the boot sequence such that if I start my router during that it gets detected. I won't detect if i switch on the router too early or too late.. This is weird.. I'm using Xubuntu...
[17:42] <Guest51771> ciao, ma se io devo richiamare da shell un file che ho nella scrivania come faccio?
[17:42] <fullmetal> meta-coder: wifi router?
[17:42] <meta-coder> fullmetal, no, ADSL..
[17:42] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: Maybe its a regression from a driver upgrade
[17:42] <meta-coder> connected via USB..
[17:43] <fullmetal> hmmm
[17:43] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: modprobe (the driver of the modem)
[17:43] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: should start it
[17:43] <meta-coder> GirlyGirl, didn't help..
[17:43] <meta-coder> GirlyGirl, what if it needs more than one module?
[17:43] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: Does the modem synchronise ... if it has lights to indicate this
[17:44] <sherorox> girlygirl: is there a way I can switch back to the old layout of 10.04 instead of the apps on the side
[17:44] <Lord`Saladin> I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and have it running with Gnome. When I try to change my wallpaper, it doesn't do anything. I go to System > Preferences > Appearances > Background and click on one of the thumbnails, but nothing happens. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:44] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: login as ubuntu classic
[17:44] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: session type > Ubuntu classic on login screen
[17:44] <meta-coder> GirlyGirl, Yes, it has lights and I can make out when the OS has stably detected it..
[17:44] <Guest51771> per aprire un file posso scrivere cd /home/utente/scrivania/file?
[17:44] <GirlyGirl> sherorox: in 11.10 however it won't work best you can do is install Xubuntu
[17:45] <Lord`Saladin> GirlyGirl: Gnome doesn't work in 11.10?
[17:45] <GirlyGirl> Lord`Saladin: Ubuntu classic aka Gnome2 no
[17:45] <GirlyGirl> Lord`Saladin: only unity or gnome-shell
[17:46] <Lord`Saladin> GirlyGirl: It seems to work fine for me. Care to elaborate?
[17:46] <meta-coder> GirlyGirl, Yes, it has lights and I can spot when the OS has stably detected it..
[17:46] <GirlyGirl> Lord`Saladin: 11.10 beta2 ???
[17:46] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: try "sudo pon"
[17:46] <janisozaur> is there an app that would let me edit pdf index?
[17:47] <Lord`Saladin> GirlyGirl: Damnit, my bad! I read it as 11.04. Ignore me, I'm an idiot.
[17:48] <meta-coder> GirlyGirl, What does pon do?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> janisozaur: pdfedit  maybe
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> !info pon
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[17:49] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: ask the modem to initiate and dial
[17:49] <GirlyGirl> ActionParsnip: its not a package
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/pon.1.html
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> GirlyGirl: noted
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> GirlyGirl: was kinda hoping for a description
[17:50] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Brings ppp connections up
[17:50] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: The argument is one of those listed in /etc/ppp/peers. Dials "provider" if none specified.
[17:50] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: That's about it :D
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> gotcha
[17:51] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: The opposite is, duh, "poff"
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: poff yoself. ;)
[17:51] <dr_willis>  !ohmy
[17:51] <dr_willis> :)
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> heheheh
[17:52] <theadmin> dr_willis: It's just a command
[17:52] <dr_willis> Gotta love the originality of some command line commands :)
[17:52] <dr_willis> I still wonder where the n went in unmount..
[17:53] <dr_willis> bbl
[17:53] <GirlyGirl> dr_willis: create a symlink for unmount to umount then
[17:54] <qwaz> dr_willis , they say they stillr regret not making it unmount to this day lol
[17:55] <Faustus2> anyone get usb3 to work with ubntu 11.04? mine freezes
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: any bugs reported?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: could test in oneiric liveCD to see if the later kernel helps
[17:59] <Faustus2> ive got 2.6.39-0-generic, whats the latest?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: That's the latest Natty kernel
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: Oneiric uses  3.0.0-12-generic and may help
[18:01] <Faustus2> mmmmrf
[18:01] <Faustus2> update, fix one bug, get another
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Faustus2: use the liveCD to test first
[18:03] <Faustus2> okok! thanks :)
[18:10] <efinimo> Hi, anyone with experience with printers? I am facing a small problem, the printer is connected, however does not seem to print. Here is the output of some info http://pastebin.com/FHye1sMX
[18:10] <efinimo> Anyone can find an error in it?
[18:12] <meerkats> i need to send a docx file to a windows user that cannot read it: I have received a docx from him, edited it, and sent back, but he cannot read it
[18:12] <meerkats> any idea why?
[18:12] <Klojum> efinimo: Are u trying to print via Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) and port 631?
[18:12] <efinimo> Klojum: no, direct USB connection
[18:14] <totti9872004> He need a neuer version of wird. You could also use google docs to shade Documents.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> efinimo: http://www.unixmen.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=72:installation-canon-lbp2900-on-linux&catid=1:linux-tutorials&Itemid=2
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> efinimo: http://files.canon-europe.com/files/soft31118/software/CAPTDRV180.tar.gz
[18:15] <Hatl> hi! im currently using oneiric 32 bit. is it possible to use multilib to migrate my current install to 64 bit?
[18:15] <puriwifi> 11.10 will be released when
[18:15] <puriwifi> stable
[18:15] <theadmin> Hatl: No, it's not.
[18:16] <oCean> puriwifi: when it's ready. Plans are 13th oct
[18:16] <theadmin> Hatl: For the future, also note that Oneric support is currently in #ubuntu+1
[18:16] <oCean> Hatl: Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released (still beta). Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[18:16] <Hatl> hmm, what options do i have?
[18:16] <Klojum> Hatl: a re-install for 64bit version
[18:17] <theadmin> What's the codename for whatever's going to come after Oneric? Heard it's "Pesky Penguin", not sure though
[18:17] <oCean> theadmin: precise pangolin
[18:17] <efinimo> ActionParsnip:  I have already installed the drivers, it specifically includes cndrvcups-capt and cndrvcups-common. The printer is detected, and even adds to files to the print queue, however just keeps the jobs pending
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> efinimo: may help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Canon_LBP2900
[18:18] <theadmin> oCean: Thanks
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: omgubuntu made a page for it
[18:19] <small01> hello! I have question - why my xubuntu new stable version is slower then my windows xp
[18:19] <aaron> how do I get windows to look like chrome in this screenshot? http://vanillux.org/wp-content/gallery/screenshots/screenshot-1.png without the large title bars
[18:20] <efinimo> ActionParsnip : Thanks, going through it
[18:20] <GirlyGirl> small01: What hardware are you using .. was it always slow or did you do something to make it slow
[18:21] <small01> no, I didn't do anythingh - I have 20 GB harde, 2, Ghz intel and 1 GB ram
[18:22] <kensum> small01, what video card are you using
[18:23] <Phr3d13> i can't boot into my latest kernel, booted into an older kernel for now, here is a pastie of boot.log: http://pastie.org/2666822 i also tried uninstalling and re-installing the kernel, still pops up that error
[18:23] <small01> kensum, nvida, gforce, but don0t konw specs...
[18:24] <theadmin> kensum: Wouldn't really matter with XFCE, it's light on graphics
[18:24] <george__> hey guys, i enabled compiz effects but they aint showing
[18:24] <ripper003> Can't launch a video/audio chat in empathy via google talk, 'Invalid remote candidates passed' error?
[18:24] <george__> wat up wit that?
[18:24] <small01> i toght so theadmin
[18:26] <ripper003> Can't launch a video/audio chat in empathy via google talk, 'Invalid remote candidates passed' error?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> ripper003: are there any bugs reported?
[18:27] <ripper003> ActionParsnip: loads but none of them have a fix or anyone seemingly working towards fixing it
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> ripper003: i guess its a known issue. Do other clients work?
[18:29] <ripper003> ActionParsnip: I don't know yet, unfortunately no-one I can test it with is online at the moment
[18:29] <small01> I realy tought that xubuntu will fly on my comp... maybe it is graphic
[18:29] <ripper003> ActionParsnip: I did read that it might be a problem with telepathy-gabble and have since reinstalled that, have also installed Pidgin to check clients
[18:30] <nelson_> ljh-
[18:30] <edwardpatch> how do i get MTA Map Editor for San Andreas on ubuntu
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> small01: lxde is light.Could try that
[18:30] <nelson_> hola alguien aqui
[18:30] <nelson_> que hable español
[18:30] <edwardpatch> how do i get MTA Map Editor for San Andreas on ubuntu
[18:31] <small01> action parsnip, is lxde based on ubuntu or... but why win xp works fine
[18:31] <GirlyGirl> edwardpatch: maybe an online service
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: do you mean grand theft auto, a windows game?
[18:31] <george__> nelson_: i talk spanish
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> !es
[18:31] <nelson_> tu hablas español'
[18:31] <edwardpatch> yes
[18:31] <edwardpatch> i do
[18:32] <nelson_> wow
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: try the wine appdb
[18:32] <edwardpatch> the sa-mp and san adnreas works
[18:32] <george__> nelson_: o lee lo q ubottu puso, no se
[18:32] <edwardpatch> i have it installs
[18:32] <edwardpatch> but a error says
[18:32] <nelson_> yo trabajo en caracas venezuela
[18:32] <OerHeks> edwardpatch, there is an wiki for that gameserver > http://wiki.multitheftauto.com/wiki/Server_Manual
[18:32] <george__> im from puerto rico
[18:32] <edwardpatch> no fonts will support this app or somthing
[18:32] <GirlyGirl> nelson_: Read the heading only english here
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: what do the appdb say for the editior?
[18:33] <george__> but seriously, i need help with compiz effects >..>
[18:33] <edwardpatch> ???
[18:33] <nelson_> hola george
[18:33] <edwardpatch> wat u mean
[18:33] <nelson_> dberias hablar en español no?
[18:33] <george__> the effects i select them, but they dont show
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | edwardpatch
[18:33] <george__> brb
[18:33] <nelson_> yo te puedo ayudar con los efectos de compiz
[18:34] <edwardpatch> i tried installing the version 1.1 do i just need the fonts
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: the appdb tells how to get some apps running.
[18:34] <nelson_> "ubuntu.es"
[18:34] <theadmin> !find corefonts
[18:35] <theadmin> edwardpatch: Install that package ^
[18:35] <edwardpatch> i need the tahoma.ttf file
[18:35] <edwardpatch> in my windows folder
[18:36] <edwardpatch> c:\windows\fonts\tahoma.ttf it says
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: then grab a copy online. Do you see why i gave the link now :)
[18:36] <edwardpatch> no
[18:36] <theadmin> edwardpatch: Don't you listen at all? Install the corefonts.
[18:36] <edwardpatch> sorry
[18:36] <edwardpatch> so go on winetricks
[18:36] <edwardpatch> then install fonts
[18:36] <edwardpatch> then find the font
[18:37] <edwardpatch> it wants
[18:37] <edwardpatch> ??
[18:37] <theadmin> edwardpatch: No need for winetricks... sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[18:37] <edwardpatch> wat will that command do
[18:37] <edwardpatch> will it install all fonts
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: the package theadmin said will install it. Its that simple....
[18:38] <theadmin> edwardpatch: It installs the standard Windows fonts
[18:38] <edwardpatch> ok
[18:38] <ThinkT510> theadmin: i think wine installs that as one of its dependancies (if he got wine from the repos that is)
[18:38] <edwardpatch> will it go straight to the c:/windows/font folder
[18:38] <fdge> I have bind9 installed and running I it forwards to my networks dns. Why is it when I run "host -t A <hostname>" it gives me it's ip address but when I run "ping <hostname>" I get "ping: unknown host <hostname>"
[18:38] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Does not if I recall correctly
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: it will go where it needs to
[18:39] <theadmin> edwardpatch: It will go to /usr/share/fonts, wine will still it from there, stop asking questions and JUST DO IT AND TELL US IF IT WORKS
[18:39] <Bundestrojaner> how can i start the ubuntu-setup without splashscreen
[18:39] <edwardpatch> its done but they are installed redy
[18:39] <theadmin> Sorry, I'm somewhat overworried here so I'm acting up.
[18:39] <faiob> bonjour a tous et a tout
[18:39] <theadmin> !fr | faiob
[18:39] <Bundestrojaner> i already tried nosplash text noplymouth
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Bundestrojaner: forever or just one boot?
[18:40] <Bundestrojaner> ActionParsnip: the setup, it freezes at unknown problem
[18:40] <Bundestrojaner> only the setup, not the os
[18:40] <edwardpatch> im gonna try winetricks
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Bundestrojaner: press Esc when Plymouth shows and you will see the text
[18:41] <fullmetal> edwardpatch: also try play on linux
[18:41] <Bundestrojaner> ActionParsnip: what is plymouth?
[18:41] <edwardpatch> had that never liked it fullmetal
[18:41] <Bundestrojaner> ActionParsnip: thx, find it out already
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: easier to just grab the file online and copy it where it needs to be.
[18:41] <ThinkT510> edwardpatch: maybe #winehq can help better
[18:41] <edwardpatch> found the font and it was not in core fonts
[18:42] <edwardpatch> installed gonna try
[18:42] <edwardpatch> now a dif font is missing
[18:42]  * GirlyGirl thinks ThinkT510 owns a thinkpd
[18:42] <edwardpatch> ok i can do this now
[18:42] <GirlyGirl> pad
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> edwardpatch: you know what to do though ;-)
[18:43] <bassie_> hi all
[18:43] <dee-dee> hello
[18:43] <bassie_> got a problem that has been bugging me for 2 hours now
[18:43] <fullmetal> bassie: go
[18:43] <dee-dee> whats that? bassie
[18:43] <ThinkT510> GirlyGirl: yup, how did you guess?
[18:44] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Or maybe he's just a GiTS fan ;)
[18:44] <dee-dee> bassie en adriaan
[18:44] <zulax> in the gui of my server, i have minimize, maximize, close and another option to just minimize the window to menu bar
[18:44] <GirlyGirl> ThinkT510: the nick
[18:44] <bassie_> X doesn't start and gives me an error: /tmp/.X11-unix has a suspicious mode (not 1777) or is not a directory. aborting
[18:44] <zulax> can i get that in desktop 11.04?
[18:44] <ThinkT510> GirlyGirl: i was kidding (thought it was a little obvious) :)
[18:44] <bassie_> when i chmod 1777 /etc -R it works, but i have to do that one very boot, so id doesn't look like normal behaviour :)-
[18:44] <dee-dee> bassie: That is offtopic. Try #xorg
[18:45] <theadmin> dee-dee: It's not as long as it's on Ubuntu
[18:45] <dee-dee> sorry.
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: boot to root recovery mode and run:  chmod 1777 /tmp
[18:45] <bassie_> Action allready did that
[18:45] <fullmetal> bassie: do a chown root on the file
[18:45] <theadmin> bassie_: Awkward. Maybe add the following to your crontab? "@reboot chmod 1777 /tmp"
[18:46] <george__> nelson:_ volvi
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: why not just reinstall with the desktop ISO, as that is what you want....
[18:46] <bassie_> Action it is a working system that isn't mine. i don't want to do a reinstall
[18:47] <theadmin> bassie_: Maybe some issue in fstab related to your tmp?
[18:47] <bassie_> i checked fstab and compared it to another ubuntu... it looks normal
[18:48] <alesan> hi! what is a graphical application to record from a microphone that displays the "levels" graphically?
[18:48] <fireprint> Hi, i have one laptop with ubuntu 10.4 with gui and a server10.4 with little extra's installed. With my laptop i can run a file with no trouble.. however, when i try and run it on the server, it just says permission denied. Anyone with thoughts? Im thinking i might have something not installed on the server? But as no real error msg is given im having trouble finding out what.
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: or add the command in /etc/rc.local   above the exit 0 line. I suggest you educate the owner as to why the server has no desktop UI and that if they want a desktop OS they should install one
[18:49] <bassie_> Action: it is not a server install
[18:49] <bassie_> it is a desktop install that is broken
[18:49] <fullmetal> fineprint: on the server give it a chmod +x
[18:49] <fullmetal> then try again
[18:49] <fireprint> i believe i have tried it, but ill try again. thank you fullmetal.
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: my mistake. Sincere apologies
[18:50] <bassie_> np
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: is the filesystem healthy?
[18:50] <hiscir> I have recently purchased a printer, a canon LBP2900B, and successfully installed the drivers from the canon site. The printer shows up in the printers list, and even adds jobs in queues, however all the jobs go in the pending state, and the printer doesn't process anything.
[18:50] <hiscir> here is some info : http://pastebin.com/FHye1sMX
[18:50] <bassie_> tmp has the right permissions. The problem is that on every boot /tmp is emtied and .X11 is created with wrong permissions
[18:51] <hiscir> anyone with this printer and experienceing this error?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: boot livecd and fsck the partition, may help
[18:51] <theadmin> bassie_: Sounds like some weird xorg issue. Can you run "X -configure"?
[18:51] <theadmin> Might help, altough I do doubt it
[18:51] <bassie_> Action forcing filesystem scan on boot now
[18:51] <fullmetal> hiscir: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645839
[18:52] <hiscir> fullmetal: I've done that, I have installed the drivers
[18:52] <bassie_> X is acting normal. it's the filesystem that isn't. /tmp/X11 is getting wrong permissions
[18:53] <theadmin> bassie_: But isn't it X creatin it?
[18:53] <bassie_> it is creating it, but it has the wrong filesystem permissions
[18:54] <fullmetal> hiscir: remove and try again?
[18:54] <bassie_> allready did that :-)
[18:54] <bassie_> tmp is automaticly emptied on boot btw
[18:54] <theadmin> bassie_: So it is creating it with wrong permissions...
[18:54] <bassie_> i think so theadmin
[18:54] <hiscir> fullmetal: done that
[18:54] <theadmin> bassie_: Nothing to do with the filesystem, it's an Xorg issue
[18:54] <theadmin> bassie_: Now if only I could guess what... X is a mess, like that or not
[18:56] <george__> can someone help with fixing a few things with moc?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: you could possibly specify /tmp in /etc/fstab and set the right stuff there.
[18:56] <Gallo1> Hi all
[18:56] <bassie_> tmp doesn't have it's own partition.... can i set it in fstab?
[18:57] <fornix> quick question. when will the next ubuntu version be? Nov? i had read somewhere ubuntu releases in april and november.
[18:57] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: you are an arch user but prefer to come in #ubuntu to provide support and are not even in #archlinux
[18:57] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: So?
[18:57] <bassie_> Actionparsnip: problem isn't really fstab.. it's the X11 directory being created in there
[18:57] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: just strange
[18:57] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: A lot of things are similar in many GNU/Linux distributions, a lot.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: its a tempfs so its in ram. I'd say so
[18:57] <robin0800> hiscir, just a suggestion have a good look on cannon's site for installation requirements I know my printer Brother needed a directory created before installation
[18:58] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: And I don't have Arch support questions and can't really help anyone there, so I don't visit #archlinux
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: maybe it'll make it play nicer
[18:58] <fireprint> that worked well fullmetal. thank you for the help.
[18:59] <bassie_> Actionparsnip: tmp is not a tempfs... it is a real directory on the harddisk
[18:59] <hiscir> robin0800: Yes, I;ve been banging my head on this since past 3 hours, read through the whole docuementation, still no output :(
[18:59] <bassie_> Actionparsnip: check your fstab and you will see
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: you could use a ramdisk for it...
[18:59] <bassie_> Actionparsnip: any idea how i can easely reinstall X? what packages i purge en reinstall?
[19:00] <bassie_> Actionparsnip: you could run everything from a ramdisk... but that is going off topic
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: no need to remove. Just reinstall xorg
[19:00] <robin0800> hiscir, more info maybe not applicable I needed two drivers an lpd diver and a cups driver
[19:01] <bassie_> Actionparsnip: removing xorg and xserver-xorg
[19:02] <hiscir> btw does this have to do with anything? usb 1-4: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: http://wiki.geteasypeasy.com/How_to:_Reduce_Disk_Writes_to_Prolong_the_Life_of_your_Flash_Drive#Move_.2Ftmp.2C_.2Fvar.2Ftmp.2C_.2Fvar.2Flog_and_.2Fvar.2Flog.2Fapt_into_RAM
[19:03] <zsolt> hi there.if I run qemu with networking got an error:warning: could not configure /dev/net/tun: no virtual network emulation could somebody help me?
[19:03] <zsolt> thank you
[19:04] <robin0800> hiscir, what can you see in system/printers
[19:04] <zsolt> if I run qemu as root it freezes
[19:04] <GirlyGirl> zsolt: Any specific reason to not use vbox
[19:04] <K4k> when I try to launch xfce4-power-manager-settings it tells me that xfce4-power-manager is not running. I don't get any errors when I start that however but the previous error returns however if I try to launch xfce4-power-manager-settings again though. Any ideas?
[19:04] <hiscir> Canon LBP2900B
[19:04] <Gallo1> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 but I can't get the desktop to fully load, theres no panel, just background. While I was trying 10.04 kernal everything worked, though I had to opt for the 3rd party video card driver for the Radeon HD 4670. How can I get 11.04 to load desktop correctly?
[19:04] <hiscir> robin0800: Canon LBP2900B
[19:05] <robin0800> hiscir, and in properties?
[19:05] <zsolt> vbox can't handle 64bit guest os,if the processor doesn't support hardware virtualization
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Gallo1: log into Ubuntu Classic session and get full updates a
[19:05] <zsolt> qemu does
[19:05] <faiob> hello every body
[19:05] <Gallo1> ac
[19:05] <hiscir> robin0800: same Canon LBP2900
[19:05] <tar-gz> Hi! How i can change language to polish in unity 11.10
[19:06] <GirlyGirl> Gallo1: strang thing ever since unity came out I see complaints about this every day
[19:06] <hiscir> btw i just generated an error log, will paste a link here
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Gallo1: also setup 3d acceleration if you need proprietary drivers
[19:06] <hiscir> robin0800: btw i just generated an error log, will paste a link here
[19:06] <faiob> i'have problem with synaptic my upgrade is no authenticat what i do ?
[19:06] <Gallo1> ActionParsnip opt to update during install and it did, also booted up and choose repair broken packages
[19:06] <faiob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705012/
[19:06] <faiob> :)
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Tar-gz: oneiric in #ubuntu+1 please
[19:07] <hiscir> robin0800: http://pastebin.com/yr5kwt12
[19:07] <hiscir> http://pastebin.com/yr5kwt12
[19:07] <tar-gz> ActionParsnip: sorry and thanks
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Gallo1: does ubuntu classic run ok?
[19:07] <K4k> Is there a channel specifically for 11.10 beta assistance?
[19:07] <eplus> good evening all
[19:07] <robin0800> hiscir, what ubuntu version are you running
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> K4k: #ubuntu+1
[19:07] <hiscir> robin0800: 10.10
[19:08] <K4k> ActionParsnip: thank you
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> K4k: np
[19:08] <UE_Use> hello! i just installed lucid. when the computer restartet after the installation it gave the cd out with the following error [1641.727668] end_request: I/0 error, dev sr0, sector 521208  ------ after that screen just shows _ (blinking) and lucid does not start ---help pls
[19:08] <eplus> anyone know why mplayer video would flicker when playing back xvid?
[19:08] <eplus> sound is fine
[19:08] <eplus> :S
[19:09] <eplus> ubuntu 11.04 with ati drivers
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> UE_Use: is there a cd in the cd tray?
[19:09] <Gallo1> ActionParsnip, I'm a noob here trying to get Ubuntu up and going, had 10.04 working then decided to go with 11.04...I have an option to boot into recovery cause I have another nix kernal on a seperate drive, stuck on what to do
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> eplus: tried a different output method?
[19:09] <UE_Use> ActionParsnip no
[19:10] <eplus> i am unable to find the output option in the settings though
[19:10] <robin0800> hiscir, well your properties don't sound right to me I would expect a cups driver statement etc
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Gallo1: its selectable when you logon, bottom in the middle after you  click username
[19:10] <Gallo1> kk, let me try
[19:11] <Gallo1> thnx man
[19:11] <hiscir> robin0800: all the properties : http://pastebin.com/FHye1sMX
[19:11] <Spudz> I need help with mv command that's been eating me alive don't know how to do,  I'm trying to move a bunch of files with "- -" in the file name
[19:11] <dinosaurvskitten> fonts are blurry and headache inducing outside of gnome. Any ideas what might be wrong? This is especially true for my terminal, urxvt, which is configured with urxvt*font:     xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:pixelsize=12
[19:12] <meem1029> Hmm, anyone have any ideas on why Ubuntu would randomly stop detecting an external hdd and then not detect it again?
[19:13] <theadmin> meem1029: Sounds like a hardware issue to me
[19:13] <ardithoxha> het
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> UE_Use: i had that myself. But then my drive failed (not sure if its related). Got new and all is well.
[19:13] <fullmetal> meem1029: dirty dismount / fragged hdd
[19:13] <meem1029> hmm
[19:13] <fullmetal> does it show up in /dev
[19:13] <Spudz> check the cable and or try another usb port
[19:13] <fullmetal> ?
[19:14] <ardithoxha> hey can I ask a question? my problem?!
[19:14] <faiob> don't no ?
[19:14] <theadmin> meem1029: sudo fdisk -l #Is it listed?
[19:14] <meem1029> It shouldn't be a hardware issue since the drive is about a month old and has been used only a couple of times.
[19:14] <theadmin> ardithoxha: Yes.
[19:14] <w30> man mv
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> ardithoxha: ask away
[19:14] <BarkingFish> don't ask to ask, ardithoxha, just ask :)
[19:14] <fullmetal> ardithoxha: no hand up needed, just fire away...
[19:14] <Razvan2600> hi guys
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> fullmetal: like your style
[19:15] <meem1029> theadmin: No, it's not listed.
[19:15] <ardithoxha> My SOUND OPTION dont work! it says: wait for sound system to respond :(
[19:15] <theadmin> meem1029: Meaning udev doesn't detect it...
[19:15] <ardithoxha> and I cant stop sound schemes
[19:15] <meem1029> Ah, that doesn't sound good.
[19:15] <Razvan2600> just wanted to ask you if you can advice on how to install netgear 11.b pcmcia card on ubuntu ...
[19:15] <theadmin> meem1029: Meaning, well, it's not really recognized as a drive...
[19:15] <theadmin> meem1029: I have the same problem with an SD card here
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Razvan2600: ru
[19:16] <meem1029> Hmm.  Why would it randomly start doing that after working fine for a while?
[19:16] <theadmin> meem1029: Wondering what it could be myself
[19:16] <Razvan2600> just wanted to ask you if you can advice on how to install netgear 11.b pcmcia card on ubuntu ...
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Razvan2600: run:  sudo lshw -C network     does it show?
[19:16] <jeeves_moss> I have a "Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82543GC Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Fiber) (rev ff)" and I can't get the OS to see it. ideas on how I can find it?
[19:16] <UE_Use> ActionParsnip could be possible it is an ide harddrive with 30gb
[19:16] <Razvan2600> no
[19:16] <meem1029> Since all I have is a backup on there right now (and it's ntfs so I can use with windows too), would it be a good idea to try booting into windows to see if windows recognizes it?
[19:16] <Razvan2600> its a old sony wayo laptop
[19:17] <bassie_> wayo laptop :-)
[19:17] <Razvan2600> I just put lubuntu on it and handle from cli
[19:17] <Razvan2600> :))
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> UE_Use: thats all I know of the issue. Could try the boot option: nodma
[19:17] <ardithoxha> My SOUND OPTION dont work! it says: wait for sound system to respond :(
[19:17] <ardithoxha> and I cant stop sound schemes
[19:17] <theadmin> ardithoxha: Is pulseaudio running?
[19:17] <UE_Use> ActionParsnip in this computer is another drive sata 80 gb but it is not possible to choose it in the installation menü of ubuntu
[19:17] <faiob> Hi all I have a problem with authentication of the update of synaptic esque someone has a solution to this problem?
[19:17] <vlt> Hello. After installing Ubuntu via debootstrap: How can I add the first user liek the CD install wouldl have done (incliding sudo rights etc.)
[19:18] <jeeves_moss> I have a "Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82543GC Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Fiber) (rev ff)" and I can't get the OS to see it. ideas on how I can find it?
[19:18] <vlt> ?
[19:18] <UE_Use> ActionParsnip do you know why ubuntu is only showing me one of two harddrives during installation?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Razvan2600: ok then run: lsusb;lspci    one line will identify the device
[19:18] <ardithoxha> theadmin: how to know that?
[19:18] <Razvan2600> nope, just did that a few minutes ago
[19:18] <theadmin> ardithoxha: pgrep pulseaudio #Any output?
[19:18] <jeeves_moss> ActionParsnip, hey man, long time no chat!
[19:18] <Razvan2600> card had led on
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> UE_Use: how many more are there?
[19:18] <ardithoxha> theadmin: SOUND at all works, i can listen
[19:18] <theadmin> ardithoxha: Ah, I see, only the controls are broken then?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Hi jeeves_moss
[19:19] <jeeves_moss> ActionParsnip, how's this turkey day treating you?
[19:19] <ardithoxha> theadmin: what to write you said?
[19:19] <theadmin> ardithoxha: Try using "alsamixer" to control the volume for now, there's also a great project called "volumeicon", but you'd need to compile it from source I think
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> jeeves_moss: turkey day?
[19:19] <ardithoxha> theadmin: I need that SOUND OPTION to stop SCHEME SOUND
[19:19] <meem1029> Ya, I'm just gonna try windows on it and see if it is recognized then.  I'll pop back in in a bit to let you know if it works.
[19:20] <w30> Spudz, rm -- -foo-
[19:20] <UE_Use> ActionParsnip there are two drives  1) 30gb ide 2) 80gb sata ; the ide drive is maybe bad but like i said it is not possible to choose the other during the installation
[19:20] <theadmin> ardithoxha: What the hell is "scheme sound", anyway?
[19:20] <ardithoxha> theadmin: at the SOUND OPTION I think?!
[19:20] <symptom> who should be the owner of /usr?
[19:21] <warfaren> root i guess?
[19:21] <theadmin> symptom: root:root
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> UE_Use: does it show in bios?
[19:21] <Spudz> thanks w30 I was just looking for an easier one step solution..  found I had to replace the space with an underscore
[19:21] <Spudz> two step process but works
[19:21] <bassie_> Actionparsnip: did a full reinstall of gnome and xserver-xorg.... still same problem. i'm bored with it. doing a reinstall and resizing the old partion to keep it
[19:21] <UE_Use> ActionParsnip yes it is shown in bios
[19:21] <symptom> theadmin, strange... mine is just a random id
[19:22] <bassie_> Actionparsnip thx for the help
[19:22] <Razvan2600> just wanted to ask you if you can advice on how to install netgear 11.b pcmcia card on ubuntu ...(nothing on lspci, lsusb) led on on card, do not know where to download driver to compile
[19:22] <symptom> theadmin, i never changed it and it is 501 now for some reason
[19:22] <theadmin> symptom: Weird
[19:22] <theadmin> symptom: 501 as the UID or the octal permissions?
[19:22] <warfaren> really? are you doing: ls -l / | grep usr
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> bassie_: go for a ramdisk or add the command in /etc/rc.local   is all i can suggest then
[19:23] <symptom> theadmin, uid
[19:23] <Gallo1> ActionParsnip, hey man...theres only a logon box, typical user or other option, I choose my user name then password, and all I get is a background with no panel or anything else, I'm thinking probably video card driver did not install correctly. How can I get this fixed..?
[19:23] <theadmin> warfaren: That's a weird way to do it
[19:23] <theadmin> warfaren: ls -l /usr # That's all you need
[19:23] <Spudz> ok gotta run work calls,  thanks again
[19:23] <symptom> theadmin, lib, bin and share are all that way....
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Gallo1: after you click your user. Stop, then look at the bottom of the screen in the middle
[19:24] <theadmin> symptom: Okay, wow. What user is that, anyway?
[19:24] <Gallo1> aight
[19:24] <symptom> not listed in etc/passwd
[19:24] <theadmin> symptom: Really weird.
[19:24] <warfaren> really? that's just listing the contents of /usr for me, we wanted to see the owner of /usr
[19:24] <Guest16714> Why is it, on a bunch of different distro's (like ubuntu, fedora, etc) when you select your usename to log in, that transition animation has a slight graphical lag?
[19:24] <theadmin> warfaren: Oh?... Ah I see.
[19:25] <warfaren> what was the # for btw? i get the same output with and without it
[19:25] <symptom> theadmin, the only thing I did recently was install virtual box 4.1 direct from the dpkg
[19:25] <theadmin> warfaren: Comment sign :D
[19:25] <theadmin> warfaren: ls # List all files in a directory
[19:25] <warfaren> ah.
[19:26] <Razvan2600> is there any tutorial instead of google first page output on installing pcmcia netgear wireless adapters ??
[19:26] <books> Hmm, the drive works in windows just fine.  Any ideas on what could be causing the linux problems?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest16714: in kde, you can turn the fade off. No messing around :-)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Razvan2600: does dmesg show the system reacting to the new hardware being inserted
[19:29] <Gallo1> ActionParsnip, lol... got it.wht a noob lmao...kk classic no effects ?
[19:29] <Razvan2600> thanks <ActionParsnip> I will try it
[19:29] <Gallo1> or just classic
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Gallo1: yes but you can see how and if you ca
[19:30] <Guest16714> ActionParsnip oh, too bad. im on gnome3
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Gallo1:  can setup 3D acceleration which compiz and therefore, unity needs
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest16714: gnome3 isn't supported here
[19:32] <Guest16714> ActionParsnip, I figured. Just wondering why it has that little glitch :)
[19:32] <guntbert> warfaren: you want ls -ld /usr then
[19:32] <books> Anyone have any ideas as to why a hard drive would randomly stop being detected under linux while still working in windows?
[19:32] <warfaren> ah. cool thanx
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest16714: if you installed gnome3 on Natty you can expect more glitches
[19:34] <ubuntu1> who are excited about 11.10?
[19:34] <OerHeks> ubuntu1 is it out yet ?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> !11.10
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: its in beta
[19:36] <Gallo1> ActionParsnip classic booted to desktop with corrupted display then shortly afterwards froze cursor. : (
[19:38] <sambal> good day.
[19:38] <theadmin> sambal: Speak for yourself... lol... Hello.
[19:39] <sambal> hi ;)
[19:39] <sambal> I do...
[19:39] <sambal> wonderfull first night with the heating on... "autumn" is visiting...
[19:39] <elfranne> some ppl are using a new H264 encoding : High Profile 10bit (also named Hi10p ) anyone know a cli tool to get advanced H264 codec info about a file ?
[19:40] <guntbert> !ot | theadmin sambal
[19:40] <sambal> Can I ask a question here regarding USB port usage on Ubuntu?
[19:40] <fullmetal> sambal: just ask...
[19:40] <fullmetal> sambal: no permission required.
[19:40] <sambal> good :)
[19:41] <sambal> I'm kinda n00b but not stupid; and tried all online resources so far...
[19:41] <fullmetal> go on
[19:41] <sambal> I'm trying to talk to Pololu micro maestro board
[19:41] <Lord`Saladin> I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and have it running with Gnome. When I try to change my wallpaper, it doesn't do anything. I go to System > Preferences > Appearances > Background and click on one of the thumbnails, but nothing happens. Any idea how to fix this?
[19:41] <sambal> and when I do: ls -l /dev/serial/by-*
[19:42] <sambal> I see that it's on ttyACM2 and ttyACM3
[19:42] <sambal> however the software I'm using expects it on: ttyACM0
[19:42] <guntbert> !enter | sambal
[19:42] <fritsch> sambal: make a symlink
[19:42] <sambal> and I wonder 1) how I can change the port the USB device is using
[19:43] <fritsch> sambal: or a udev rule
[19:43] <fullmetal> go to the /etc/(your program)/config
[19:43] <sambal> or 2) how I can make the SW talk the assigned ports
[19:43] <fullmetal> edit the settings there
[19:43] <fritsch> sambal: which software do you use?
[19:43] <sambal> paparazzi autopilot
[19:44] <fritsch> sambal: http://moreproductive.org/autopilot/ <- this one?
[19:44] <sambal> with that board I can feed the GPS locations to 2 servos and have either a tracking antenna or a tracking camera
[19:44] <eplus> how does one configure "setup mail" with thunderbird?
[19:44] <sepplmaster> hey to all! i have a problem with my cups server, i can access it nicely, but when i try to do something administrative, my browser shows an error msg and in the error log of cups it says  Unable to encrypt connection from 10.42.43.1 - Could not negotiate a supported cipher suite. does anyone have an idea
[19:44] <sambal> let me check that site
[19:44] <sambal> ah I've seen that one
[19:44] <fritsch> sambal: just give me your resources
[19:44] <sambal> it's not solving it
[19:45] <fritsch> sambal: where did you get it from?
[19:45] <sambal> paparazzi.enac.fr
[19:45] <sambal> and the usb board from: http://www.pololu.com/docs/0J40
[19:45] <fritsch> sambal: it runs with wine?
[19:45] <sambal> they page you send I found; however they have a different uage for the board
[19:46] <sambal> no; it's native *nix
[19:46] <sambal> the board is very versatile
[19:47] <sambal> @FULLMETAL it's not in the ETC folder
[19:47] <fritsch> sambal: http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Installation <- you read this?
[19:47] <sepplmaster> cups help, anyone?
[19:47] <K4k> Can anyone make sense of this error for me? http://pastebin.com/bqRm5Q8h
[19:48] <sambal> yes I read it all; the software is running nicely
[19:48] <sambal> http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Antenna_Tracker
[19:48] <theadmin> K4k: Probably a problem with mapping the power key, or the brightness up/down keys
[19:48] <sambal> this is the most relevant part
[19:49] <sambal> --port=xxx..x     opens port xxx..x. Example --port=/dev/ttyACM0 (Default).
[19:49] <sambal> however the device is not on it
[19:49] <Gallo1> ActionParsnip classic booted to desktop with corrupted display then shortly afterwards froze cursor. : (, I have to step out, but thnx for the help....will try again later. thanks all
[19:49] <fritsch> sambal: --port=/dev/ttyACM1 ?
[19:49] <theadmin> sambal: Soo... run it with --port=/dev/ttyACM7?
[19:49] <fritsch> theadmin: exactly :-)
[19:49] <fritsch> sambal: i do not get your point
[19:50] <sambal> Did that
[19:50] <sambal> I will paste what I get then...
[19:50] <fritsch> sambal: in a pastebin please
[19:50] <K4k> theadmin: would that prevent the application from starting though?
[19:50] <sambal> sambal@buntutop:~/paparazzi/sw/ground_segment/cockpit$ ./ant_track_pmm --port=/dev/ttyACM2
[19:50] <sambal> Antenna Tracker for the Paparazzi autopilot, Chris Efstathiou 2010
[19:50] <sambal> Type '--help' for help
[19:50] <sambal> Trying to open /dev/ttyACM2
[19:50] <sambal> Success /dev/ttyACM2 opened
[19:50] <FloodBot1> sambal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:50] <sambal> Trying to open /dev/ttyACM0
[19:50] <sambal> open_port: Unable to open /dev/ttyACM0
[19:50] <zelozelos> K4k, it looks like a font/color choice is wrong and the key mapped to the power is incorrect, start by checking  keyboard short cuts in the pref's and see if anything is mapped to that key besides the power / sleep buttons
[19:51] <fritsch> i said it ... before expected this
[19:51] <sambal> oops...
[19:51] <fritsch> sambal: 21:52 < sambal> Success /dev/ttyACM2 opened
[19:51] <sambal> am i still muted? I pasted too much
[19:51] <sambal> the rest got cut off I fear
[19:51] <fritsch> sambal: this is not a paste here what you like channel
[19:51] <fritsch> !pastebin | sambal
[19:52] <sambal> mea culpa :(
[19:52] <zamoras7> How can i make my own chat ;
[19:52] <zamoras7> place
[19:52] <zamoras7> ?
[19:52] <fritsch> zamoras7: just type /j #chatforzamoras7
[19:52] <nano-> Just tried out Ubuntu 11.10, suspend seems broken on Asus EEE 1015PE.
[19:52] <zamoras7> tnx
[19:53] <Promille> zamoras7: type /j #randomchatroom
[19:53] <sambal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705028/
[19:53] <sambal> there it is
[19:53] <K4k> zelozelos: If the only shortcuts that are in effect are the ones in the keyboard screen then there are only 5 shortcuts and none mapped to power settings.
[19:53] <Promille> ah sorry a bit too late there :)
[19:53] <fritsch> sambal: seems a bug
[19:53] <zelozelos> K4k, hmm...idk really it was a guess
[19:54] <sambal> can you read the .c code?
[19:54] <sambal> I can paste that on that page so you can read it?
[19:54] <K4k> zelozelos: thanks for trying :-)
[19:54] <zamoras7> when i make my chatroom you can see it????
[19:54] <sambal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705030/
[19:54] <sambal> that's what I think is the relevant part of the code
[19:54] <Dave15674> hii
[19:55] <sambal> what I fear is that it's hardcoded to check port 0 next to the one that is specified
[19:55] <sambal> and since it's not running on that at all the board never get's my (the) IVY messages
[19:55] <fritsch> sambal: did you do something with udev?
[19:55] <fritsch> sambal: the installation said sth. about installing a udev rule?
[19:56] <sambal> all instructions as in the paparazzi installation where followed
[19:56] <sambal> where can I check if that happened correctly?
[19:56] <sambal> that udev rule
[19:57] <fritsch> sambal: i do not know, doing ubuntu not some linux software out of the wild
[19:58] <fritsch> sambal: btw. this codepart is not the relevant part - only the perror message is hard coded
[19:58] <fritsch> sambal: %s port would fix this
[19:58] <fritsch> sambal: see, they do it a line above ... perror is commented anyways
[19:58] <sambal> the port is correct; that's 12 be default; and the board is on #12
[19:59] <fritsch> sambal: okay, perhaps you ask in #paparazzi
[19:59] <sambal> I will try that; I thought it was more an OS thing.
[19:59] <sambal> thanks for your time
[19:59] <sambal> really appreciate it
[20:00] <sambal> and I will read more about udev and symlinks now
[20:00] <fritsch> sambal: https://github.com/paparazzi/paparazzi/blob/master/conf/system/udev/rules/50-paparazzi.rules
[20:00] <fritsch> sambal: this one make the correct stuff
[20:01] <sambal> thanks again
[20:01] <aperson> I've been trying to remap the side buttons on my mouse temporarily for a game (as the game won't accept mouse buttons that aren't 1-3).  I've used xbindkeys with partial success, but the game seems to swallow the input and it won't use the new key bindings.  Does anyone have any pointers?
[20:01] <fritsch> sambal: perhaps the ubuntu packages hav perhaps installed this by default
[20:02] <lorddelta> I found a connection on my machine I had not sanctioned (a connection to a telnet port on aprs.tamu.edu), using a port which seems to be changing. What would be the best way to find the program that is attempting to connect on that port? Running Ubuntu 11.10.
[20:02] <RobbieCrash> My Ubuntu server is only connecting at about 1.5Mb/sec. All other devices plugged into the switch are receiving gigabit speeds. I've tested the cable with other machines and the speeds are fine. lshw -C network shows that the connection is gigabit, and the switch agrees. CPU usage is minimal, so is disk IO. I've tried it with both interfaces that I have installed, it does not matter, it's maxing
[20:02] <RobbieCrash> out at 1.5Mb/sec. This is the case with smb, scp, ftp, web browsing, apt downloads, etc. Where can I look to isolate the issue?
[20:06] <xsi> hey guys I wonder my volume on my speakers are very low I haven't installed any drivers for them but is that necessary in my case?
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[20:06] <FloodBot1> akrep: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <bodnast> .
[20:09] <xglasyliax> #blendercoders
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[20:11] <merlot> trolls are coming out of the woodwork
[20:11] <UE_Use> which ubuntu version includes a lot of sata drivers? the normal version does not show my sata drive
[20:11] <fritsch> merlot: just do not feed them :-)
[20:11] <fritsch> UE_Use: what sata controller do you have?
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[20:13] <FloodBot1> ahIaksiz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <UE_Use> fritsch i don't know its the computer of a friend! it is an old asus board with mainly ide drives just 2 sata slots... (all ide harddrives failed so i have to use sata)
[20:13] <FloodBot1> kardeIen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <Minalien> They're not doing a very good jbo of keeping him out. <.<
[20:13] <fritsch> UE_Use: can you pastebin me the output of lspci?
[20:13] <Maccer> lolwut
[20:13] <fritsch> !pastebin | UE_Use
[20:13] <UniCo> Sera a tutti
[20:14] <guntbert> !it | UniCo
[20:14] <naufragoweb> e
[20:14] <UniCo> guntbert si italia
[20:14] <naufragoweb> kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[20:15] <UniCo> ubottu e perche vuoi ke vado
[20:15] <guntbert> !pm | Iliri05
[20:15] <UE_Use> fritsch it is difficult to get the Ispci from the other computer are there any versions of ubuntu which include a lot of drivers for such cases?
[20:15] <merlot> La Vita E  Bella
[20:16] <fritsch> UE_Use: i was not aware of a "normal sata" controller not supported by ubuntu
[20:16] <fritsch> UE_Use: normally everything should be enabled
[20:17] <UE_Use> fritsch ok i thought so too... but i see no other solution than this because the bios knows the harddrive and the installation of ubuntu does not find any harddrive
[20:17] <fritsch> UE_Use: no disk at all?
[20:17] <UE_Use> fritsch no.. i removed the old bad ide disks
[20:18] <fritsch> UE_Use: without lspci i cannot help, sorry
[20:18] <UE_Use> just one sata left and this one is not found
[20:18] <fritsch> UE_Use: dmesg + lspci would be good
[20:18] <UE_Use> fritsch ok i try to get
[20:18] <fritsch> UE_Use: do you know what mainboard this is?
[20:18] <fritsch> UE_Use: is it the internal sata controller?
[20:19] <UE_Use> yes the mainboard name pls wait a few seconds...
[20:19] <RobbieCrash> My Ubuntu server is only connecting at about 1.5Mb/sec. All other devices plugged into the switch are receiving gigabit speeds. I've tested the cable with other machines and the speeds are fine. lshw -C network shows that the connection is gigabit, and the switch agrees. CPU usage is minimal, so is disk IO. I've tried it with both interfaces that I have installed, it does not matter, it's maxing
[20:19] <RobbieCrash> out at 1.5Mb/sec. This is the case with smb, scp, ftp, web browsing, apt downloads, etc. Where can I look to isolate the issue?
[20:20] <UE_Use> fritsch it is an on board sata controller the board name is: asus k8v
[20:20] <fritsch> RobbieCrash: try to reduce the MTU (just an idea)
[20:20] <fritsch> RobbieCrash: ifconfig eth0 mtu 1452
[20:20] <fritsch> RobbieCrash: and retry
[20:21] <fritsch> UE_Use: in Bios do you have setting for RAID vs. IDE?
[20:21] <fritsch> UE_Use: concerning this sata controller
[20:22] <UE_Use> fritsch i did not find setting options for raid vs. ide
[20:22] <fritsch> UE_Use: reading through the net - it should work
[20:22] <fritsch> UE_Use: could you try the "red" sata ports on the board?
[20:22] <fritsch> UE_Use: did you use the "gray" ones?
[20:23] <UE_Use> fritsch one moment i am looking
[20:23] <aj00200> is there a guide to follow for when yeadphones don't work?
[20:23] <RobbieCrash> fritsch thanks
[20:24] <fritsch> RobbieCrash: does it work?
[20:24] <merlot> yeadphones! =)
[20:24] <fritsch> UE_Use: am i just blind: http://www.sharkyextreme.com/img/2004/03/asus_k8v/mb.jpg where are the sata ports?
[20:24] <DasEi> !sound > aj00200:
[20:24] <Simon_S> fritsch, i see at least 2
[20:25] <DasEi> !sound | aj00200
[20:25] <fritsch> Simon_S: hehe, give me a right or a left :-)
[20:25] <Simon_S> fritsch, left bottom on the picture
[20:25] <UE_Use> fritsch
[20:25] <RobbieCrash> fritsch, no unfortunately not.
[20:26] <Math^> can someone tell me how to execute a script with gksudo?
[20:26] <fritsch> Simon_S: nope?
[20:26] <UE_Use> fritsch there are 4 ports they are next to the blue ide slot
[20:26] <fritsch> UE_Use: so my picture is the wrong one?
[20:26] <fritsch> UE_Use: you have the deluxe version?
[20:26] <DasEi> Math^: bashscript ?
[20:26] <aj00200> DasEi: thanks, looking now
[20:26] <UE_Use> fritsch the left ide slot (your picture is right)
[20:27] <Math^> DasEi: yes, it's for mounting a device
[20:27] <DasEi> Math^: gksudo ./Yourscriptname.sh
[20:27] <fritsch> UE_Use: okay, found them :-)
[20:27] <Math^> DasEi: :o hold on
[20:27] <fritsch> UE_Use: oky, try another port first and afterwards dmesg + lspci, please
[20:27] <UE_Use> fritsch lower left corner but i found 2 others
[20:28] <DasEi> Math^: did you set executable bit ?
[20:28] <Math^> DasEi: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[20:28] <UE_Use> frisch there are 4 sata slots, maybe my friend was using the wrong ones
[20:28] <Math^> yes, did chmod +x
[20:28] <UE_Use> fritsch there are 4 sata slots, maybe my friend was using the wrong ones
[20:28] <grkblood> is it 11.04 thats extremely buggy or is it unity ?
[20:28] <grkblood> b/c my brand new laptop has ran like shit ever since i installed 11.04
[20:28] <Simon_S> grkblood, neither nor...
[20:29] <xangua> !language | grkblood
[20:29] <grkblood> sorry
[20:29] <UE_Use> fritsch i try to use the other two thank you so far i will write in a few minutes after testing
[20:29] <grkblood> just frustration
[20:29] <Simon_S> grkblood, but unity is kind of a resource eater
[20:29] <fritsch> UE_Use: this is just a shot into the blue. dmesg + lspci is the correct way to go
[20:29] <grkblood> im currently dealing with a black screen of death
[20:29] <grkblood> i turn on my lpatop and the screen stays completely black, nothign else
[20:30] <Simon_S> hmm from standby??
[20:30] <grkblood> no, from booting up
[20:30] <DasEi> Math^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=898233
[20:30] <grkblood> i had to kill my laptop like 10 minutes again bc it didnt one its several freezes
[20:31] <grkblood> i turned it back on and boom black screen
[20:31] <grkblood> ive dealt with this a few time within th past few days
[20:32] <luca_> Hi all - is it possible to override the monitor's brightness in Ubuntu?
[20:32] <DasEi> grkblood: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[20:32] <grkblood> im getting BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffc90412301ffc
[20:32] <fritsch> luca_: "the monitors brightness"? is it a laptop?
[20:33] <craigbass1976> I've got a desktop pc running thunderbird.  I've got a laptop running thunderbird and checkign the same IMAP accounts.  The desktop has filters set up so that messages get filtered where they belong.  Is it possible to log into the desktop with a command line and run the filters, other than doing ssh -X and firing up an instance of Thunderbird
[20:33] <grkblood> DasEi: ill do that one i get into single user
[20:33] <jpmh> I have a number of identical, new machines.  I have configured one of them and am happy.  Config is TOO big to fit on a bootable live CD - can I just dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb if I have plugged the drive of the new machine into a usb caddy on the old one?
[20:33] <luca_> fritsch: it's a TFT flatscreen
[20:34] <fritsch> luca_: no you cant
[20:34] <luca_> bugger :) thanks
[20:34] <fritsch> luca_: you can make your own screen brighter
[20:34] <luca_> fritsch: I've put it up as high as I can in the monitor's settings
[20:34] <fritsch> luca_: but i do not know of a to control the backlight of an ordinary ssd
[20:34] <aperson> jpmh↬ just remember to change the uuids in the /etc/fstab to match the new drive
[20:34] <fritsch> luca_: but it is too dark?
[20:34] <Math^> DasEi: it works with sudo, but not with gksudo
[20:34] <DasEi> grkblood: or ctrl+alt+F1
[20:34] <fritsch> luca_: look at the contrast, perhaps this is lowed out
[20:34] <UE_Use> fritsch great! like i said it is the computer of a friend who knows nothing about computers... i removed an defekt ide drive 30 minutes ago and had problems with the sata drive! the conclusion after changing the sata port may be that there was a raid between the ide and the sata drive... i got the message raid broken now
[20:34] <luca_> fritsch: it's OK, but a bit darker than a usual screen
[20:35] <DasEi> Math^: checked the forum hints ?
[20:35] <Math^> DasEi: yes, I did
[20:35] <luca_> fritsch: hm good idea, I'll try
[20:35] <fritsch> UE_Use: okay, you wanted to use the raid?
[20:35] <fritsch> UE_Use: so ubuntu did not show it to you in order to avoid data loss
[20:35] <Math^> well it's a permission issue
[20:36] <DasEi> Math^: you might need another terminal-tab after applying the changes
[20:36] <grkblood> DasEi: that doesnt work when i get the black screen, i have to edit grub
[20:37] <UE_Use> fritsch my friend said nothing but erase windows xp and install ubuntu... linux just said that ide drive is defekt therefore i removed it... i think my friend did not even no that there was a raid because he said nothing about it... i will call him and ask for further instructions now
[20:37] <Math^> DasEi: well there's no .Xauthority file :P
[20:37] <Math^> should I create one you think?
[20:37] <DasEi> he
[20:37] <grkblood> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/705052
[20:37] <DasEi> yes, please
[20:37] <grkblood> DasEi: paste.ubuntu.com/705052
[20:37] <UE_Use> fritsch *did not even know
[20:37] <fritsch> UE_Use: okay, have fun - and a backup is better than no backup ;-)
[20:38] <fritsch> UE_Use: i am out for today 10:30 pm here
[20:40] <tsaknorris> when i press my date&time "button" at the panel. it opens the calendar. thats cool, but now that window is at right up corner!? O.o how i can adjust it?
[20:41] <xangua> tsaknorris: if you mean unity, it's lock there i believe
[20:42] <tsaknorris> xangua: my panel is at down, not up and i dont have unity on this machine.
[20:42] <Math^> DasEi: lol, I just had to create a new .Xauthority file, no problems anymore :)
[20:42] <DasEi> grkblood: lol, a 8000 line doc, takes some time to load..
[20:43] <brimstonez> my netbook is overheating
[20:43] <tsaknorris> xangua:  this is gnome2
[20:43] <user_> подскажите как мне тор на убунту настроить
[20:43] <brimstonez> and going unstable
[20:43] <DasEi> Math^: congraats
[20:43] <Math^> DasEi: kinda weird, it's totally an empty file :P
[20:43] <Leothlon> Hi guys, my flat mate got a problem installing ubuntu :/
[20:43] <grkblood> DasEi: yes, its very big
[20:44] <Leothlon> with 11.04 he gets stuck at load screen, using the nomodeset "fix" he gets into a terminal, now he tried the same thing with ubuntu 10.04 and he gets error copying files to hdd... anyone know what the problem might be+
[20:44] <grkblood> DasEi: and all of that is from today, so that's probably nto a good ting
[20:44] <DasEi> grkblood: uups
[20:46] <arghx> Leothlon: need more hardware info
[20:46] <Leothlon> acer 7738g laptop
[20:46] <Leothlon> nVidia gt130m gfx
[20:46] <dinosaurvskitten> is there something like xsetroot, but that doesn't crash x when you run it?
[20:46] <DasEi> grkblood: looks like memory related, I suppose you talk from another box here, so run a memtest on it and also a pastebinit /var/log/kern.log could be handy
[20:47] <Leothlon> 4gig ram, intel centrino
[20:47] <arghx> Leothlon: hybrid graphics?
[20:47] <grkblood> DasEi: yes, im on another box right now for IRC
[20:48] <dinosaurvskitten> or, alternatively: how can I set my background image when outside of gnome, in a way that doesn't involve xsetroot?
[20:48] <arghx> Leothlon: and which version does he want to run?
[20:48] <Leothlon> 11.04
[20:48] <Leothlon> he tried 10.04 now couse 11 didn't work
[20:48] <Leothlon> then 10 didn't wanna work ether xd
[20:48] <DasEi> grkblood: check the memory of it, though so far just found alsa terminated, nothing real helpfull
[20:49] <grkblood> DasEi: im in single user mode right now
[20:49] <grkblood> what should i do to run the test
[20:49] <arghx> Leothlon: then please answer my question
[20:49] <Leothlon> i had the same problem with my computer, i had to install windows then install ubuntu as dualboot throu that, but he dont want dualboot
[20:49] <grkblood> memtest is pre grub right?
[20:49] <Leothlon> arghx he is not really sure
[20:49] <arghx> grkblood: yes
[20:49] <arghx> Leothlon: then he should make sure
[20:50] <DasEi> grkblood: sudo reboot, when it comes up press left shift >grub>memtest
[20:50] <Leothlon> he is looking for it atm
[20:50] <grkblood> DasEi: i have two memtest86 options in grub
[20:51] <grkblood> memtest86+ and memtest86+, serial console 115200
[20:51] <DasEi> grkblood:  first
[20:51] <RobbieCrash> My Ubuntu server is only connecting at about 1.5Mb/sec. All other devices plugged into the switch are receiving gigabit speeds. I've tested the cable with other machines and the speeds are fine. lshw -C network shows that the connection is gigabit, and the switch agrees. CPU usage is minimal, so is disk IO. I've tried it with both interfaces that I have installed, it does not matter, it's maxing
[20:51] <RobbieCrash> out at 1.5Mb/sec. This is the case with smb, scp, ftp, web browsing, apt downloads, etc. Where can I look to isolate the issue? I've installed TInyCore Linux, and tested through that and the speeds are fine. So it seems to be something in my Ubuntu config.
[20:51] <tsaknorris> i think nobody has had this kind of problem before :)
[20:51] <grkblood> DasEi: ok, i got the blue screen, i cant tell if its doing anythign though
[20:51] <tsaknorris> how to move calendar window back to its original place?
[20:52] <DasEi> grkblood: should see some counting
[20:52] <DasEi> just let it run
[20:52] <grkblood> no counting, nothing is changing
[20:52] <faiob> after setup with synaptic, i don't found elfutils source directory in my ubuntu 10.04 LTS , peapol know?
[20:52] <Leothlon> arghx, the GT 130M supports Hybrid-SLI (only HybridPower). HybridPower is a technique to choose between the integrated and dedicated graphics core,
[20:52] <arghx> faiob: what is a elfutils source directory?
[20:52] <Leothlon> so yea it seems to be hybrid graphics
[20:53] <DasEi> and hope you get no redlines in the downer section of the screen, Signaling PME through PCIe PME interrupt there is from the log
[20:53] <arghx> Leothlon: I didn't ask about hybrid sli or hybrid power but hybird graphics in general. in this case: is there an intel videocard in the system as well? and which one is set to be uesd via BIOS?
[20:53] <faiob> universe
[20:53] <antnash_> Alright guys. What do I have to change in fstab so that I can write to a partition that root currently owns?
[20:53] <faiob> arghx
[20:54] <faiob> i can setup
[20:54] <RobbieCrash> antnash_ chown <user> /path
[20:54] <faiob> but after installing i don't found
[20:54] <grkblood> DasEi: i dont think this things is going anything
[20:54] <grkblood> ill let it sit though
[20:55] <DasEi> you yould see some movement in the upper section
[20:55] <Leothlon> going into bios to check
[20:55] <arghx> faiob: "setup"? please tell us exactly what you did. what commands you ran
[20:55] <grkblood> the only thing changing on the screen is in the green bar in the top left corner
[20:56] <grkblood>  theres a red _ blinking n and off
[20:56] <grkblood> and a red + after memtest86 blinking on and off
[20:56] <faiob> arghx: i have open synaptic package Manager
[20:56] <faiob> i'have write int quick search elfutils
[20:56] <Leothlon> arghx,  cant find any info on it in bios:/
[20:56] <DasEi> grkblood: http://tinyurl.com/26pq3f5
[20:57] <arghx> Leothlon: run via nomodeset and start X and check the Xorg log
[20:57] <arghx> Leothlon: and check via lspci what hardware you actually have
[20:57] <grkblood> DasEi: yea, theres none of those progress bars
[20:57] <Leothlon> ok will do
[20:57] <grkblood> and my memtest is v4.10
[20:58] <faiob> and i'have klic on mark for installation and on apply
[20:58] <DasEi> grkblood: so something is wrong with graphics it seems then, reboot and try the serial option ?
[20:58] <arghx> faiob: dpkg -l elfutils
[20:59] <arghx> grkblood: your "brand new laptop" has hybrid graphics?
[21:00] <antnash_> how do I mount a disk as rw? It's a disk that has come in from another system
[21:00] <grkblood> arghx: i believe the card is a radeon 6470M
[21:00] <arghx> grkblood: and the CPU?
[21:00] <grkblood> arghx: intel i7
[21:00] <arghx> antnash_: is the disk automounted?
[21:01] <antnash_> nope
[21:01] <DasEi> antnash_: mount it and then grand permissions for the mountdir, too, want it permantly ?
[21:01] <arghx> grkblood: then check which videocard is actually used
[21:01] <antnash_> Only need it temporarily
[21:01] <arghx> antnash_: fdisk -l  to see what partitions are on it, then simply mount it with "mount"
[21:01] <ghufran> hi. i am behind a proxy on the university network and while internet works using the proxy settings in the browser, it doesn't work in the terminal commands like wget .. or when trying to clone repositories over https .. i've added the proxy settings through the network proxy tool and applied them globally
[21:01] <faiob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705068/
[21:01] <grkblood> arghx: its a radeon 6470M
[21:02] <ghufran> can someone help me identify the problem?
[21:02] <arghx> grkblood: then reread what I already answered to that please. thank you
[21:02] <DasEi> antnash_: sudo chown -R $USER /path/mountdir
[21:03] <Leothlon> arghx,  dont seem to be any intel card in there, just the nvidia 130m card
[21:03] <grkblood> i todl you what my cpu was
[21:03] <arghx> ghufran: console doesn't know about gome settings. e.g. apt has its own proxy settings
[21:03] <arghx> Leothlon: what cpu?
[21:03] <arghx> grkblood: and I told you what to do. you have two videocards
[21:04] <ghufran> arghx: how can i set them ? i thought "global" meant global .. not a pro at ubuntu .. also its not just apt ..
[21:04] <faiob> arghx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/705068/
[21:04] <grkblood> arghx: how'd you come to that conclusion
[21:05] <arghx> ghufran: e.g. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/177
[21:05] <Leothlon> intel core 2 duo cpu t6500 2.1ghz
[21:05] <Guest26357> can someone help me with this error?       http://paste.ubuntu.com/705065/
[21:07] <grkblood> DasEi: im running memtest off a disk now
[21:07] <grkblood> and its working
[21:07] <DasEi> grkblood: bars now ? ah
[21:07] <grkblood> yea
[21:07] <grkblood> running it from a memtest disk
[21:07] <arghx> Leothlon: boot with nomodeset and then start X and there install the restricted drivers for your nvidia chip
[21:08] <GreyMatter> can someone help me with this error?       http://paste.ubuntu.com/705065/
[21:08] <grkblood> arghx: why did you say i have two memory cards? you lsot me there
[21:08] <arghx> grkblood: cause you have a i7 cpu and you said you have a ati hd64xx card
[21:08] <arghx> grkblood: I said you have two videocards
[21:08] <dtigue> exit
[21:08] <grkblood> yea, videocards, excuse me, i dont knwo why i typed that
[21:08] <dtigue> blah
[21:09] <grkblood> arghx: i knwo that when i had the systme running if i ran lspci | grep VGA the 6470M would come up
[21:09] <grkblood> so thats the card i was using i suppose
[21:09] <grkblood> plus thats what was listed in system info
[21:09] <arghx> grkblood: with a radeon 64xx, you most probably have a sandy bridge i7 which means you have a viceocard inside your cpu. and it's a laptop so chances are it's hybrid graphics to save battery power. which is a very good candidate for your problems
[21:10] <grkblood> i never saw anythign about an i7 videocard
[21:10] <arghx> grkblood: don't "suppose" but _check_
[21:10] <arghx> grkblood: what cpu do you have?
[21:10] <grkblood> arghx: let me find the laptop specs real quick, my laptop is unusable at the moment
[21:11] <GreyMatter> has anyone checked my link?    just wondering
[21:11] <grkblood> arghx: i7-2630QM
[21:12] <arghx> GreyMatter: what does glxinfo  say?
[21:12] <arghx> grkblood: yes, sandybridge. which has a videocard inside
[21:12] <arghx> grkblood: most likely you need to fix your opengl setup. what videocard and what driver do you use?
[21:13] <GreyMatter> glxinfo?    I have this too if it helps
[21:13] <GreyMatter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705051/
[21:13] <grkblood> arghx: the opensource driver
[21:13] <grkblood> the propietary one would make my computer hang every 10 minutes or so
[21:13] <arghx> grkblood: dmesg output is not glxinfo output
[21:14] <arghx> GreyMatter:dmesg output is not glxinfo output
[21:14] <Leothlon> arghx,  startx gives output: /usr/bin/x: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/bin/libpciaccess.so.0: cannot read file data: input/output error
[21:14] <arghx> ^grkdid I ask you about what driver you use?
[21:14] <grkblood> arghx: should i just go ahead and kill this memtest?
[21:14] <grkblood> since it seems thats not the issue
[21:14] <arghx> Leothlon: do a _long_ SMART test for your harddisk. it could be a defect harddisk
[21:15] <Leothlon> now he did the nomodeset on ubuntu 11.04 install wich give termial
[21:15] <GreyMatter> arghx I am sorry I think I am using Jockey
[21:15] <arghx> grkblood: if you want to run a memtest you need to run it for at least 12 hours, better 24 to get a meaningful result
[21:15] <snow_usa> uh
[21:15] <Simon_S> grkblood, still at the blackscreen of death??
[21:15] <arghx> GreyMatter: jockey?
[21:15] <snow_usa> fa*
[21:15] <snow_usa> f* Simon_S
[21:15] <grkblood> Simon_S: yes
[21:15] <grkblood> arghx: im goign to run glxinfo real quick
[21:15] <Leothlon> nah the harddrive is working fine been running without any problem, its just when installing ubuntu 11.04 it gets fucked :S all others work (well 10.04 is abit messy to)
[21:16] <Simon_S> snow_usa, wtf??
[21:16] <GreyMatter> arghx:  3rd party ATI driver
[21:16] <Zerpy> Anyone who knows, if I should ask about something with DNS and Nameservers?
[21:16] <arghx> Leothlon: until you have tested every single sector of your harddisk you above statement is simply uninformed and useless. have a nice day
[21:16] <Simon_S> Zerpy, if you don't ask, you'll never know
[21:17] <edwardthefma> hey all
[21:17] <edwardthefma> i need to know whare i can find some parentel software for ubuntu
[21:17] <snow_usa> Simon_S, what the * are you saying at me ?
[21:18] <DasEi> edwardthefma: partner repos and ppa's, debs on the web
[21:18] <arghx> grkblood: if you boot with nomodeset, and then run X, will X work? and if it doesn't: what is in your Xorg.0.log then?
[21:18] <DasEi> edwardthefma: more specific, which soft ?
[21:18] <Zerpy> Simon_S: It's because, I have 2 domains, on same server.. exact same site.. domainA.com is running on nameservers that is local on the dedicated server.. DomainB.com is running on Nameservers that is hosted by another webhost.. DomainB.com is like 259ms in Connection to the server.. where DomainA.com is 15-19ms in Connection to server.. Can it be because nameservers are running locally, it's faster?
[21:18] <arghx> edwardthefma: the amount of linux "parental software" is pretty much non existent for several reasons. one reason is: this software never works and cannot work. it's snakeoil
[21:19] <arghx> Zerpy: "connection" with what protocol?
 i want to block all web traffic exept for certen domanes
[21:19] <grkblood> arghx: i jsut booted with nomodeset
[21:20] <grkblood> X is working, but the resolution is crappy
[21:20] <Zerpy> arghx: like.. when I go to the browser, and go to http://domainA/B.com - So a normal HTTP protocol.. just Domain B is 230ms slower avg
[21:20] <arghx> grkblood: then check your Xorg log to see what driver it uses
[21:20] <DasEi> edwardthefma: look into iptables, hosts allow/deny
[21:20] <Simon_S> Zerpy, if you are connecting localy, from the server to itself, maybe... if you are connecting from remote, i think its just the time needed to resolve the domain name
[21:20] <arghx> Zerpy: if you use a browser, how do you measure your latency?
[21:20] <edwardthefma> ok
[21:20] <Zerpy> Simon_S: I'm sitting around 500miles from the server
[21:20] <my-c0p> i m not
[21:21] <Zerpy> Chrome has network related software built-in for developers
[21:21] <Simon_S> hmm ok, than it's just the dns...
[21:22] <Zerpy> Somehow I think it can be the DNS on Domain B that isn't running locally on the dedicated server itself.. because it's only domains that isn't running on my own nameservers that is kinda slow in connection
[21:22] <Simon_S> but i think your local isp/your router should cache the dns requests.. so after the first request to the server, all dns requests should be answered from cache..
[21:22] <grkblood> arghx: should i be grepping for anything in particular in this log file?
[21:22] <arghx> yes. for what driver is used first
[21:23] <Zerpy> Simon_S: I'm running on google's DNS server :P
[21:23] <Simon_S> try "time dig A domainname.tld" to find out how long the dns server needs to respond
[21:23] <Zerpy> My own ISP only recache's domains like once a month.. and I did server migration yesterday.. so my domains isn't working if I run on my ISP's DNS server
[21:24] <grkblood> arghx: i see a lot of X.Org Video Driver, version 10.0
[21:24] <Zerpy> 55 msec for DomainA. 117msec for DomainB
[21:25] <Simon_S> domainB is not on your own nameserver...
[21:25] <arghx> grkblood: if you don't understand what you look at, put it in a pastebin please
[21:25] <grkblood> arghx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/705078
[21:25] <Zerpy> Which may be the problem.. DomainB only have a DNS A record to go to my serverIP
[21:26] <tull> anyone knows a better program than easytag?
[21:26] <Simon_S> Zerpy, the response time of the dns... if the location of the dns is the only difference between the two domains...
[21:26] <Drak_Tekno> How do Install Ubuntu server 10.04?
[21:27] <arghx> grkblood: you currently use VESA :(    what is the content of /sys/kernel/debug and what is the output of lspci -nn ?
[21:27] <DasEi> Drak_Tekno: grab a usb, put the iso on and be fine
[21:28] <arghx> Drak_Tekno: you put in the CD and boot from it
[21:28] <DasEi> !unetbgootin
[21:28] <Zerpy> Simon_S: This is the setup.. I'm in Denmark, my server is in Netherlands, My nameserver is on that Dedicated server.. DomainA is running on that nameserver.. DomainB is pointing to my dedicated, but DomainB's Nameservers are placed in Denmark
[21:28] <DasEi> !unetbootin
[21:28] <linux> yo
[21:29] <linux> fuck these niggers
[21:29] <Drak_Tekno> so how from a cd?
[21:29] <linux> i hate nigers
[21:29] <pangolin> !language | linux
[21:29] <grkblood> arghx: lspci output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/705081
[21:29] <arghx> !ops linux wants to go
[21:29] <Simon_S> Zerpy, so it's the dns...
[21:30] <arghx> grkblood: in your pasting, look at lines 3 and 15
[21:30] <Zerpy> Simon_S: Thank you for the answer.. Hopefully DomainB's old webhost will soon release the domain for me, so I can get it to another registrar, and change the nameservers to point to mine instead :P
[21:30] <arghx> grkblood: and there you see why you have two videocards
[21:30] <rww> arghx: thanks :). it helps if you put a | after ops, it'll highlight out channel staff more often
[21:30] <arghx> rww: I am kinda new here, sorry
[21:31] <grkblood> arghx: so whats the fix?
[21:31] <rww> arghx: no problem. ubottu's a bit weird, most bots work without the |
[21:31] <grkblood> arghx: you still need the ls listing from the debug dir?
[21:31] <arghx> grkblood: several or none. there is no magic bullet
[21:31] <arghx> yes I do
[21:32] <grkblood> arghx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/705082
[21:32] <Phr3d13> i can't boot into my latest kernel, booted into an older kernel for now, here is a pastie of boot.log: http://pastie.org/2666822 i also tried uninstalling and re-installing the kernel, still pops up that error
[21:32] <kripskroll> join #scrapy
[21:33] <solexious> Is it possible to setup nvida twinview across 2 graphics cards?
[21:33] <Simon_S> solexious, no
[21:34] <arghx> Phr3d13: can you please tell us what this error is supposed to be?
[21:34]  * constrictor is away: Coffee break
[21:34] <solexious> Simon_S: dam, whats the best I can hope for?
[21:34] <Phr3d13> this is what happens when i boot into the latest kernel, that error pops up after picking it in the grub
[21:34] <arghx> grkblood: do you have more than one PC in your LAN? e.g. can you boot your laptop with ubuntu and then use another PC to connect to it via ssh?
[21:34] <xangua> ubottu: tell constrictor about away
[21:35] <Simon_S> solexious, you can use xinerama...
[21:35] <grkblood> arghx: yes
[21:35] <arghx> Phr3d13: _which_ error
[21:35] <arghx> grkblood: then install openssh-server and do that
[21:35] <grkblood> im on the laptop right now
[21:35] <arghx> Phr3d13: so far you haven't shown any errormessage to anyone
[21:36] <nawk> hi, could someone please direct me to a ubuntu developer channel?
[21:36] <solexious> Simon_S: I tried enabling that, but it made all my screens show the same (apart from my mouse), is that what its ment to do?
[21:36] <Phr3d13> http://pastie.org/2666822 this error
[21:36] <arghx> grkblood: the idea is to boot ubuntu normally (no nomodeset) and check what the actual error is. since the screen is black ubuntu itself cannot show us the error, ergo we need another way to see it. hence: ssh
[21:36] <grkblood> arghx: im sshed onto the laptop
[21:36] <usr13> !dev nawk
[21:36] <Simon_S> solexious, no, you can use in that you have one big desktop over alle screens... if that is what you want
[21:36] <grkblood> ahh
[21:36] <grkblood> ok
[21:36] <grkblood> ill reboot
[21:36] <usr13> !dev | nawk
[21:36] <arghx> grkblood: and have booted without nomodeset?
[21:36] <grkblood> no
[21:37] <grkblood> ill do that now
[21:37] <arghx> Phr3d13: then please tell us what you think the error message in this paste is please?
[21:37] <Phr3d13> init: ureadahead-other main process (1081) terminated with status 4 <-this
[21:37] <solexious> Simon_S: my goal is to have 4 screens that I can drag windows between, and if I maximize then it maxes to the screen its in only
[21:38] <Phr3d13> Stopping automatic crash report generation[74G[[31mfail[39;49m] or this
[21:38] <Phr3d13> or the fact that it gets stuck here and doesn't go anywhere else
[21:38] <grkblood> arghx: it booted this time without nomodeset
[21:38] <grkblood> so im actually on the laptop rightn ow the way it shoudl be
[21:38] <arghx> grkblood: you mean it booted and has a GUI you can use?
[21:38] <grkblood> yes
[21:39] <grkblood> but itll break again within the next 24 hours more than likely
[21:39] <arghx> grkblood: check Xorg log to see which driver it uses, run glxinfo to check if opengl works, etc
[21:39] <donkey1> anyone can read a electric schema and tell me what wire to wire where on my junkyard clothe washer motor ?
[21:39] <arghx> the idea is to force Xorg to use this driver from now on and make it work always I guess
[21:40] <donkey1> or perhaps i am not at the right place to ask, where would i find such answer ?
[21:40] <arghx> Phr3d13: you are very confused imho and it's impossible for me to help you without a clear problem description
 <DasEi> a ubuntu forms admin recomeands NoScript + Privoxy + Dansguardian
[21:40] <arghx> donkey1: #electronics ?
[21:40] <edwardthefma> :)
[21:41] <grkblood> arghx: glxinfo -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705090
[21:41] <DasEi> donkey1: #electronics
[21:41] <chalcedony> 0111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.
[21:41] <chalcedony> 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111110 ,mnjb.1
[21:41] <DasEi> !ops
[21:41] <Phr3d13> after an update (kernel update - 2.6.38-12) the new kernel won't boot, i can only get into linux using the older one (2.6.38-11), how do i fix this?
[21:41] <arghx> edwardthefma: you asked about a whitelist. above is a blacklist of sorts and of course is useless in preventing children accessing "bad content" since it will always fail one way or the other. but again: what you asked for was something different. whitelists are not blacklists
[21:41] <Guest60325> I was trying to prevent using wine by non-priveleged user. So I'we put this user's .wine folder and subfolders rights all to none (from root). But linux made something in addition. Now it can't even start GDM. Now the only who can log-in is root, even the other Sudouser cannot login (the non-priveleged sure can't) "Cannot access /home/(username) folder" How can I restore all rights to start al least GDM? I don't know where the l
[21:41] <Guest60325> inux put access to "none" in addition -(
[21:41] <donkey1> thanks guys
[21:41] <rww> chalcedony: get your cat off your keyboard, please
[21:42] <DasEi> :)
[21:42] <niko> rww: ^^
[21:42] <rww> niko: yes?
[21:42] <usr13> Phr3d13: Just don't use the new one.
[21:42] <arghx> Guest60325: what are the actual permissions of /home/username ?
[21:43] <Phr3d13> is there something wrong with it?
[21:43] <arghx> Phr3d13: can your give us the output of dpkg -l |grep linux-image  please?
[21:43] <Guest60325> when I've looled in Midnihgt commander it was all to none
[21:43] <grkblood> arghx: xorg -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705091
 well the kinds arnt savy enuff yet 4 5 12 and 15
[21:43] <Guest60325> I put back read write
[21:43] <arghx> Guest60325: ls -ld /home/username
[21:43] <edwardthefma> kids :)
[21:44] <arghx> edwardthefma: a 12 and 15 year old kid knows a ton more than any parent unless the parent writes OSes for a living
[21:44] <Phr3d13> arghx, http://pastie.org/2667791
 well this kid dosent have the time to hack
[21:45] <arghx> dream on
 also no parentel software is ment to be a replacement from parents
[21:45] <donkey1> why the hell cant i talk on channels with two # ?
[21:45] <Ansikt> Hey all.  I'm relatively new to ubuntu, and am trying to update and install some packages, but they are failing.  I am trying to figure out if this is due to the firewall on my network, or an internal issue in apt/dpkg.  I've heard that sources.list can help you determine the port number apt is using, but I don't see any specific lines that state it.  Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
[21:46] <rww> donkey1: you can. presumably the particular channel you're referring to quiets unidentified users.
[21:46] <rww> !register | donkey1
[21:46] <donkey1> it has something to do with me not having a logged nickname or what
[21:46] <arghx> Ansikt: use apt-get to install your new packages and then pastebin us the command you are trying and its full output into a pastebin
[21:47] <grkblood> arghx: Xorg looks like its using the intel driver now
[21:47] <arghx> grkblood: do you have a vga* in /sys/kernel/debug/ ?
[21:48] <grkblood> arghx: yes, vgaswticheroo
[21:48] <arghx> grkblood: basically one would want to see the error message(s) when the booting fails with a black screen. most probably it then tries to use the radeon but fails, but we don't know how it fails
[21:48] <arghx> grkblood: what is the content of that file?
[21:49] <grkblood> its a directory with a file titled switch isndie
[21:49] <arghx> grkblood: vgaswitcheroo controls which chip/card is used
[21:49] <grkblood> it has 2 luines in swtich
[21:49] <Ansikt> arghx:  Sadly, I cannot do that atm.  I cannot install a IRC program on that partition because of the issues with apt, so I switched back to Arch to ask some help of this sagely channel.
[21:49] <grkblood> lines*
[21:49] <Ansikt> I can mount it, however, and pastebin you various files.
[21:49] <arghx> Ansikt: then use a chroot
[21:50] <arghx> grkblood: are you telling us what those lines are any day now?
[21:51] <grkblood> arghx: 0:DIS: :Pwr:0000:01:00.0 \n 1:IGD:+:Pwr:0000:00:02.0
[21:51] <grkblood> arghx: i had to type them
[21:51] <grkblood> its on the other screen
[21:52] <Ansikt> arghx:  Why didn't I think of that?  I shall be naught but a moment.
[21:53] <savid> How do I get gnome-keyring-daemon to manage ssh keys (act as ssh-agent) when I log in?
[21:55] <arghx> grkblood: I suggesst doing a: echo "IGD" > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch    on bootup before X starts. then it should always use the intel
[21:55] <arghx> if you put a "DIS" in there before starting X, it will use radeon
[21:55] <arghx> grkblood: are you dualbooting windows
[21:56] <grkblood> arghx: no
[21:56] <grkblood> im running win7 in virtualbox though
[21:56] <arghx> grkblood: then you could also maybe try and set the integrated or discrete chip in BIOS
[21:56] <arghx> VMs don't matter
[21:58] <pureevol> can someone tell me what the drop down panels are called. like when i click on system, places, or applications. the little option panels
[21:59] <DasEi> pureevol: menus ?!
[21:59] <grkblood> arghx: where should i stick tha? im guessing somewhere in /etc/rc something
[22:00] <eXeC64> I have an initscript on a server that I need 3 people to be able to access. The script however has to use screen to house the server program. I'm trying to get screen to create a session that any of them can access/end. Is there an easy way to do this or an alternative without screen?
[22:00] <under> I've to burn an img to usb. What software can I use? It's a .img ubuntu
[22:00] <eXeC64> by access I mean start/stop/restart
[22:00] <DasEi> !unetbootin | under
[22:01] <pureevol> im trying to change the font colors and background colors in the dropdown "menus" and for the life of me i cant figure out what they are called
[22:03] <grkblood> arghx: how aobut if i stick it in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[22:03] <con-man> does anyone have an idea as to why the window decorator isn't loading as soon as I turn on desktop cube
[22:03] <con-man> QQ
[22:05] <qin> pureevol: With theme editor, or editing theme (is it gnome)?
[22:06] <root_____> Ahoj! Privet!
[22:07] <root_____> UNREAL!!! I LOVE TERMINAL!!!
[22:07] <qin> root_____: Me too, but more quiet.
[22:08] <qin> !rootirc > root_____
[22:08] <arghx> grkblood: could work. have to try it
[22:08] <johzephine> hey, when i try to connect to my wireless i get a "bad password" message even though the password is correct.  I tried removing network manager like some of the solutions online say but that didn't help.
[22:08] <root_____> today i got new experience! send mail from console! =0))
[22:09] <fullmetal> johzephine: sudo apt-get install wicd
[22:09] <fullmetal> sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[22:09] <johzephine> fullmetal: i have wicd
[22:09] <platzhirsch> Does anyone know whether the multi monitor problems disappear with Ubuntu 11.10 when using Unity? I had some trouble in 11.04, for instance I could not maximize two windows on two different monitors
[22:09] <arghx> root_____: do you have a ubuntu question or problem we can help you with?
[22:09] <fullmetal> sudo apt-get remove network-manager/
[22:10] <fullmetal> did you remove it?
[22:10] <root_____> tnx! =))))
[22:10] <fullmetal> then reboot?
[22:10] <johzephine> fullmetal: are there steps beyond that?  Because I've done that.
[22:10] <root_____> in moment i havent problems. i read manuals and use man
[22:10] <root_____> tnak you!
[22:10] <arghx> root_____: then please be quiet. this channel is not a social chat channel
[22:10] <johzephine> fullmetal: I did that last night, also tried to install wicd 1.6 but it wouldn't install because there was a newer version.
[22:10] <root_____> ok
[22:10] <arghx> johzephine: you need to run wicd and configure it
[22:11] <johzephine> :/ I usually use wicd though.
[22:11] <root_____> bue
[22:11] <djresree> Looking for help setting up Linux printer to be visible to Windows XP and Win7
[22:11] <johzephine> should I try it again anyway?
[22:11] <arghx> johzephine: what was the problem when you tried to apt-get install wicd  as suggested?
[22:12] <Phr3d13> arghx, http://pastie.org/2667791
[22:12] <arghx> Phr3d13: I've seen it before, thank you
[22:12] <Phr3d13> sorry
[22:13] <arghx> djresree: sudo netstat -anlp |grep 631
[22:13] <johzephine> well, my netbook (with ubuntu) isn't connected to the internet because there's no wire in this room, but wicd is already installed.  I installed it last night.
[22:13] <arghx> johzephine: then run it?
[22:13] <djresree> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:631             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1169/cupsd
[22:13] <djresree> tcp6       0      0 :::631                  :::*                    LISTEN      1169/cupsd
[22:13] <djresree> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:631             0.0.0.0:*                           1169/cupsd
[22:13] <djresree> unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     14631    1733/dbus-daemon    @/tmp/dbus-6UR69L4brZ
[22:13] <FloodBot1> djresree: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <johzephine> arghx: says bad password
[22:14] <johzephine> arghx: when i try to connect
[22:14] <arghx> johzephine: then maybe it is?
[22:14] <djresree> what?
[22:14] <johzephine> it's not.
[22:14] <fullmetal> agreed
[22:14] <aolko> hi there
[22:14] <johzephine> my password works on my macbook and my phone.
[22:14] <diki> i installed mingw32 however mingw32-configure doesnt seem to be present
[22:14] <aolko> is there a way to build custom iso?
[22:14] <arghx> djresree: so an IPP printing connection should work just fine
[22:14] <aolko> like w reconstructor
[22:14] <aolko> but reconstructor died
[22:15] <aolko> and uck is not so good
[22:15] <fullmetal> johzephine try removing the config for that AP and re add it
[22:15] <johzephine> fullmetal: how do  I do that?
[22:15] <djresree> Arghx.... have been through several "help" sites regarding CUPS, IPP and Samba and nothing has worked yet.  Windows 7 will not even recognize ANYthing on the Linux machine.  WinXP at least sees the computer
[22:15] <arghx> johzephine: or you can try this: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK
[22:15] <aolko> ...
[22:16] <yoyoyo_NT> who have CANON LBP 3010 printer? :)) i have problem with configuration.. not work with any settings from ubuntu :|
[22:16] <johzephine> arghx: thanks, I'll look at that.
[22:16] <arghx> djresree: this is a windows problem. your linux is set up as it should already
[22:16] <fullmetal> double click on the wicd icon in the task bar, then click on the properties button for that specific ap
[22:16] <arghx> djresree: unless you want to use CIFS for printing
[22:16] <aolko> and so...?
[22:17] <fullmetal> where it says use encryption
[22:17] <djresree> arghx:  I have gone through the linux tutorials and junk that tells "how to get Windows" to work by editing settings and permissions and all kinds of stuff.
[22:17] <fullmetal> make sure you have the crypto strength correct and verify the key below by clicking in the password field
[22:17] <fullmetal> @ johzephine
[22:18] <arghx> djresree: this is nice but how are these windows settings and permissions, etc a ubuntu problem again?
[22:19] <djresree> arghx:  I have no problem connecting the the printer on ANY of the four other machines running in the house.   Now, after setting it up on Linux, I cant connect with ANY of those other computers to that printer
[22:19] <djresree> In fact, I was using the Linux box to print to the printer on another machine just fine, but wanted to move my stuff to ubuntu to consolidate it as my server for everything.. seems my plan has backfired
[22:21] <arghx> djresree: does your ubuntu box provide samba shares for the LAN?
[22:21] <djresree> On top of it, one of the Linux help docs for Ubuntu says about using Windows to be the print server "why would you want this  ?"  And that made me even more mad because I say "BECAUSE AT LEAST SHARING A PRINTER ON WINDOWS WORKS!"
[22:22] <fullmetal> djresree: it is frustrating however please avoid going into an all caps rage...
[22:22] <djresree> arghx: I have Samba running with three directories shared and the printer is shared, too (running ubuntu 11)
[22:22] <arghx> djresree: do you have a ubuntu problem and what to work constructively solving it ro do you simply want to rant, foam and swear??
[22:23] <djresree> arghx:  I am trying, but for two days I have been battling this thing and it is really getting old.  I want to save electricity by not having this other Win box on at all times as a print server, but it seems that I may have to use the electricity anyway because of all the problems!
[22:23] <DustyMonk> djresree: please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:24] <djresree> argh:  I have not sworn once, so please refrain from false accusations
[22:24] <fullmetal> djresree for the priter share do you allow all clients? guest access may be needed if your win boxes are not authenticating...
[22:24] <arghx> djresree: please solve your problems without my help. have a nice day and good luck
[22:24] <fullmetal> also webmin is a easier way to manage a print server.
[22:25] <rww> !webmin
[22:25] <DustyMonk>  djresree you're free to not use linux, if it does not suit your needs
[22:25] <djresree> fullmetal:  I have it shared for any and all clients
[22:25] <fullmetal> did you allow anon access? this may be needed...
[22:26] <th0r> djresree: have you installed swat?
[22:26] <djresree> dustymonk:  I am aware of that, and with the condescending attitude that is being displayed, it is no wonder more people turn away from using it.  However, that being said, I am trying to learn and expand my field of knowledge
[22:26] <djresree> th0r:  what is swat
[22:26] <mattalexx> Anyone know how to get LibreOffice to save to a remote NFS network filesystem without crashing and losing all of my damned data?
[22:27] <th0r> djresree: a tool for samba config, you might want to try it
[22:27] <BluesKaj> BBL ..dinner
[22:27] <djresree> th0r, awesome!  I will look that up   fullmetal:  is that in samba share window?  aka settings?
[22:28] <fullmetal> yep. settings for the printer...
[22:28] <djresree> fullmetal:  it says "Allow printing for everyone except these users:"  and there is no one in that list
[22:29] <diki> so how do i produce windows executables?
[22:29] <djresree> fullmetal:  ipp://192.168.2.108:631/printers/Deskjet4135  is the addy of the printer
[22:29] <diki> i thought ./configure with --build=blah would do the trick
[22:29] <diki> but an exe file is NOT produce
[22:29] <th0r> diki: you need a crosscompiler, and I doubt that would be supported here
[22:29] <djresree> fullmetal:  hp:/usb/Deskjet_F4100_series?serial=CN7BK4S5TQ0542   is the other addy I have
[22:30] <fullmetal> diki: aftter configure try make then make install
[22:30] <fullmetal> diki: btw that will only compile for linux system....
[22:30] <diki> th0r: i installed mingw(and i am in their lurkish channel)
[22:31] <diki> the problem is, even though its built..no reaction at all
[22:31] <fullmetal> djresree: try doing a \\servername on your windows box and see if you can see the printers...
[22:31] <diki> i still have the linux binary i think
[22:31] <fullmetal> *from the run command
[22:31] <diki> since wine doesnt recognize it
[22:31] <DustyMonk> djresree: below on this page, you find some business case studie, perhaps they can inspire you http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/business.html
[22:32] <djresree> fullmetal:  I assume you mean replace servername with the IP of my linux box?
[22:32] <fullmetal> that is correct
[22:32] <fullmetal> it should lists all smb shares
[22:32] <fullmetal> including printers
[22:32] <Planewalker_Alph> Hello
[22:32] <fullmetal> if they are available
[22:33] <estudiante> hola
[22:33] <fullmetal> dustymonk: were here to gain groundswell, not alienate users...
[22:33] <estudiante> como estas ?
[22:33] <bazhang> !es | estudiante
[22:33] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[22:33] <djresree> fullmetal:   The network path was not found
[22:33] <Tetracomm> When is the LTS version of Ubuntu 11.10 going to be released?
[22:34] <arghx> Tetracomm: never
[22:34] <fullmetal> djresree: can you ping the ip of the linux server?
[22:34] <DustyMonk> fullmetal: i was just showing, that both Wall Street and CERN use linux
[22:34] <bazhang> Tetracomm, 12.04 is lts
[22:34] <fullmetal> dustymonk: agreed, much uses linux, this was more in reguards to your earlier comment
[22:34] <Tetracomm> arghx: What happened? When is the 12.04 supposed to come out?
[22:34] <bazhang> Tetracomm, 2012 April
[22:35] <fullmetal> id just hate to lose another user back to the sheeple side..
[22:35] <arghx> Tetracomm: 12.04 comes out in april 2012. which is kinda selfevident, no?
[22:35] <erikandre> Socket-LGA1155, Quad Core, 3.4Ghz, 8MB, 95W, Boxed w/fan and ASUS Maximus IV Extreme B3, Socket-1155 A good buy? Or should i wait for the new "high" stuff after old old sandy bridge. Ivy ?
[22:35] <djresree> fullmetal:  how do I ping the server?  from Windows run or ubuntu?
[22:35] <bazhang> erikandre, thats not really related to ubuntu support try ##hardware
[22:35] <fullmetal> do run > cmd > ping (server ip)
[22:35] <arghx> erikandre: this channel hasn't been renamed to ##hardware. please ask elsewhere
[22:35] <fullmetal> from windows
[22:35] <fullmetal> ping the linux server...
[22:36] <Tetracomm> arghz: How was I supposed to know that? I thought it was every 6 months.
[22:36] <erikandre> arghx: people are sleeping in that channel it seems to view.
[22:36] <fullmetal> no ping no play...
[22:36] <bazhang> erikandre, #ubuntu-offtopic then
[22:36] <arghx> erikandre: that is not our problem. please stay on topic
[22:36] <djresree> fullmetal:  hang on and I will
[22:37] <djresree> fullmetal:  yes, it pinged
[22:37] <th0r> Tetracomm: long term support (LTS) releases come out every two years. Interim releases are not considered LTS
[22:37] <erikandre> bazhang: Was gonna try figure out hardware that works together. Cause a p4 2.8Ghz with 4GB of ram and 2GB nvidia card is slow as H. And i am not using the closed drivers.
[22:37] <djresree> fullmetal:  from winxp machine, Will try the win7 machine now
[22:37] <Tetracomm> th0r: Is it me, or are the LTS releases better than the interim ones?
[22:37] <bazhang> erikandre, #ubuntu-offtopic not here please
[22:37] <fullmetal> ok if you have ping but cannot enter in the run command \\(serverip) and have it list you need to look closer at your samba server... like start or restart it...
[22:37] <erikandre> bazhang: and you are nice. Thanks.
[22:38] <th0r> Tetracomm: it was my experience they seemed to be more stable and less prone to problems on initial install, but I don't think that is an official position
[22:39] <Tetracomm> Ok.
[22:39] <Tetracomm> Thank you.
[22:40] <fullmetal> djresree: you  can pm me to avoid flooding the chan
[22:40] <djresree> fullmetal:   winxp pings and now shows the printer but win7 does not
[22:40] <djresree> fullmetal:  yes, would be glad to
[22:41] <djresree> my apologies to all for "flooding" the channel
[22:41] <hacktosh> what is m2 staging ?
[22:41] <cj-bolland2> hi everybody how i can change the server
[22:42] <th0r> cj-bolland2: you could set it on fire
[22:43] <hacktosh> anybody know what is m2 staging (apache) ???
[22:48] <con-man> what is the default window manager with compiz?
[22:48] <con-man> mines crashed or something
[22:48] <con-man> I need to reload it
[22:48] <con-man> restarting the computer did not work
[22:50] <CoJaBo> con-man:  metacity? (not sure on that tho, I use kde)
[22:51] <con-man> CoJaBo, yeah not metacity that's the default for basic effects
[22:54] <sl1ckx> server irc.Prison.NET
[22:56] <con-man> what's the command to bring up a run box?
[22:56] <con-man> alt+F2?
[22:57] <johzephine> arghx: i tried the guide you linked to, it didn't help
[23:01] <user11> hi
[23:01] <user11> I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a Chromebook, everything works fine minus the sound, ie: whenever I turn on the laptop I have to reset again for the sound to work (and sometimes goes, sometimes I have to restart it again). Anyone know tell me that I have correctly configured to resolve this error?
[23:04] <Brad8171> hello
[23:05] <casperb> Hey guys, so i have a new rig and it ends up in a reboot loop after install of any linux distro including ubuntu, with windows it reboots before the install can finish.
[23:05] <casperb> More of a hardware issue, but this is as a good a place as any ^^
[23:06] <casperb> I'm stumped on what it can be tho, stripped it down to bare minimum, CPU, GPU, 1 HDD and 1 slot of ram
[23:07] <meek> hello
[23:08] <casperb> It was running stable on the OS'es that was on the disk from the previous system, so i'm thinking voltage issues or driver issues
[23:08] <meek> im having trouble downloading a deb file
[23:08] <Simon_S> meek, whats the problem
[23:08] <meek> says this package is of bad quialty
[23:09] <meek> trying to download appinventor
[23:09] <matiasjrossi> hi! Running Oneiric here, I have a laptop with Radeon GPU. Installed AMD restricted drivers to try them out but (as always) are just crap. Remove it using Jockey, restarted the machine now compiz refuses to load even though I'm successfully running xorg with radeon driver. Any ideas?
[23:09] <meek> do i downloaad the gnu or deb?
[23:09] <meek> ubuntu 11 X64
[23:10] <meek> Lintian check results for /home/meek/Downloads/appinventor-setup_1.1_all(1).deb:
[23:10] <meek> E: appinventor-setup: arch-independent-package-contains-binary-or-objec
[23:10] <snow_usa> working on this
[23:14] <meek> can anyone help me
[23:14] <meek> having trouble downloading a deb file
[23:14] <meek> says its of bad quialty
[23:14] <meek> im using ubuntu 11  i use deb and not gnu right?
[23:15] <matiasjrossi> meek: what do you mean by "deb and not gnu" ?
[23:15] <meek> http://www.appinventorbeta.com/learn/setup/setuplinux.html
[23:15] <meek> i download the deb, but it will not install in software manager
[23:16] <meek> and running the sudo command they have there does not work
[23:16] <matiasjrossi> yeah, in despite ubuntu IS GNU/Linux, it should be much easier using the deb package.
[23:16] <meek> im pretty new to linux and still fiding my way around
[23:16] <utilisateur> bonsoir
[23:17] <matiasjrossi> did you try forcing the install? try: dpkg --force --install <filename>
 is the actual name of the deb package
[23:17] <arghx> forcing dpkg is a very very quick way to break your installation
[23:17] <meek> no ill try and force now
[23:17] <arghx> what is the error when you try to dpkg -i  it?
[23:18] <meek> moonunit:~$ sudo dpkg --install appinventor-setup_1.1_all.deb
[23:18] <meek> dpkg: error processing appinventor-setup_1.1_all.deb (--install):
[23:18] <meek>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[23:18] <meek> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:18] <meek>  appinventor-setup_1.1_all.deb
[23:18] <FloodBot1> meek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:18] <meek> sorry for big post
[23:18] <matiasjrossi> arghx: you're right. but doesn't seem that risky and it's way easier than fixing the metadata inside the package :-)
[23:18] <arghx> unpack it and install manually
[23:18] <pangolin> meek: you want to use dpkg -i for that
[23:19] <pangolin> arghx: why would he unpack it?
[23:20] <user11> I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a Chromebook, everything works fine minus the sound, ie: whenever I turn on the laptop I have to reset again for the sound to work (and sometimes goes, sometimes I have to restart it again). Anyone know tell me that I have correctly configured to resolve this error?
[23:20] <pangolin> meek: also never mind me. I read your paste wrong
[23:21] <dxenos> Hello. I'm running an Asus EAH3450 video card with an ATI chip. Haven't used ubuntu since version 8, and all the usual stuff I'd use to set up drivers (like xorg.conf) seem to be missing. When I go to Additional Drivers, the dialog box is empty. How do I install video card drivers?
[23:21] <ectabyte_> Why can't I uninstall chromium without having to install firefox?
[23:21] <arghx> dxenos: your videocard is supported out of the box. nothing needed
[23:21] <ectabyte_> Is there a way to not remove both?
[23:21] <ectabyte_> to remove both I mean
[23:22] <arghx> ectabyte_: something on your system needs a webbrowser
[23:22] <johzephine> arghx: I tried the guide you sent me and it didn't help.
[23:22] <ectabyte_> I have google-chrome installed though
[23:22] <arghx> at least one must be installed. that could be epiphany, chrome, firefox, etc
[23:22] <dxenos> arghx: Whenever I turn my resolution above 1024x768, my desktop pattern turns to gibberish. It looked like a driver problem to me, which is why I was investigating drivers.
[23:23] <ectabyte_> I installed chrome throught google's repository
[23:23] <arghx> dxenos: which driver do you use?
[23:23] <dxenos> arghx: Not sure how to tell, or how to install them in this version of ubuntu. Any tips?
[23:23] <arghx> dxenos: Xorg.0.log tells you which
[23:24] <arghx> it also tells you which resolutions are supported
[23:24] <ectabyte_> So even if I have a webbrowser that's not firefox or chromium (google-chrome) I still need them?
[23:24] <dxenos> arghx: Thanks. I'll check and get back to you.
[23:24] <pangolin> lazyassbastard: Would you please change to a family friendly nick.
[23:24] <arghx> ectabyte_: yes, cause the chrome package from google is shittily made most probably. that's normal for 3rd party .debs
[23:24] <ectabyte_> That sucks...
[23:27] <dxenos> arghx: I found that log file. What should I look for to figure out what driver I'm running?
[23:29] <dxenos> arghx: I think I'm running the RADEON driver.
[23:29] <arghx> then you run the proper driver already as you should
[23:29] <arghx> and the logfile also tells you which resolution it supports. so does xrandr
[23:30] <dxenos> arghx: Ah. Okay, then I know for certain it supports 1920x1080 (the resolution I want). However, I get screen cheese on the desktop pattern when trying to enable it. Any tips?
[23:31] <kingofswords> hi..is there a ubuntu version of roboform?
[23:33] <hiyo> hello I'm wondering if I could implement some security policies on my accounts like having the thing lock out for 30 min after x amount of failed log in attempts
[23:33] <arghx> dxenos: what monitor is this?
[23:33] <jrib> hiyo: over ssh you mean?
[23:34] <hiyo> no simply when you log in, but over ssh would be nice too
[23:34] <dxenos> arghx: It's a dual monitor system, and the problem has happened with several other monitors. The left monitor is a hannspree and the right monitor is an i-inc.
[23:34] <jrib> hiyo: over ssh you can use denyhosts or fail2ban
[23:35] <hiyo> jrib: and for anyone logging in locally?
[23:35] <dxenos> Actually, the apps work... but the screen doesn't repaint directly over the desktop pattern.
[23:41] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me the terminal command for finding out how strong me wifi signal is?
[23:42] <eiriksvin> I have a scanner, it's not showing the signal strength correctly
[23:43] <th0r> eiriksvin: iwconfig
[23:45] <mc1454> How come every window decoration for KDE freaks out that I downloaded, allthe ones that came with are good
[23:49] <meek> can anyone help me install a deb pkdg
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> mc1454: not sure about qt, but gtk does divide into multiple libraries which without causes them to default to the default gtk theme
[23:50] <mc_teo> i get this flickering on most 3d games
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> !deb | meek
[23:50] <mc_teo> dell xps 15z with nvidia geforce ftx 525M (2GB vram)
[23:50] <meek> trying to install this and doesnt work       sudo dpkg --install appinventor-setup_1.1_all.deb
[23:51] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm trying to setup dual monitors in Ubuntu 10.04. I've got an ATI card (built into the motherboard). The two monitors are hooked up, and the are "mirrored". In the Monitor Prefs the mirror radio button is grayed out. What can I do to get a xinerama set up going? Thanks.
[23:51] <meek> when i downlaod the package from the site and try to install in USC it says its of bad quialty
[23:51] <meek> downloaded 3 times
[23:51] <meek> and still cant get the apt-get to work
[23:51] <mc_teo> meek: paste the error in pastebin
[23:52] <arghx> mc_teo: nvidia proprietary drivers?
[23:52] <meek> http://pastebin.com/23BB328y
[23:53] <meek> and these are the  ones i get when tryign to install the deb in usc  http://pastebin.com/ChuhXhV4
[23:53] <meek> any ideas?
[23:54] <meek> :(
[23:55] <fuse-oss> what is the council channel
[23:55] <fuse-oss> #ubuntu-council has no one in it
[23:56] <meek> any idea mc_teo
[23:56] <pangolin> fuse-oss: you can email them see /msg ubottu !appeals
[23:58] <meek> so can anyone help me
[23:58] <meek> i posted both pastebins with my errors, just trying to download  a deb file
[23:59] <meek> the sudo command wont work and the deb i downloaded in USC wont install correcly
[23:59] <g0rs> meek: are you using gdeb installer?
[23:59] <meek> gdeb?
[23:59] <g0rs> are you on gnome or kde?