fuse-oss | suddenly i am a lubuntu user | 00:12 |
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fuse-oss | why did it put me at the top | 00:14 |
fuse-oss | oh alphabetic | 00:14 |
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ridz16 | I'm excited | 05:04 |
ridz16 | about the upcoming lubuntu 10.10 which is to be release today 10/10, but it's still not on the lubuntu.net website ? | 05:05 |
Unit193 | Well, it's 11.10 for the year.month | 05:07 |
ridz16 | woops I misread. | 05:08 |
ridz16 | thought its gonna be 11.10 lol | 05:08 |
micahg | the release is on the 13th | 05:30 |
Unit193 | Yeah, was about to say that when he left :/ | 05:30 |
meway | Wut ever happend to nautilus? | 05:41 |
meway | its like fman or something like that? | 05:42 |
Unit193 | Nautilus is the default file manager for Gnome, I don't know what happened to it, but Lubuntu uses PCManFM | 05:42 |
* wxl yawns | 06:18 | |
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wxl | so let me get this straight: on 11.10 is going to be released on thursday (https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04945.html) but it's coming out 11/10 (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/10/%23lubuntu.html around 05:05) too? which? what? | 17:44 |
bioterror | take it easy | 17:45 |
bioterror | it will come when it comes during that day ;) | 17:45 |
* wxl stops hyperventilating | 17:45 | |
wxl | and my that you mean some? | 17:45 |
wxl | thurs ≠ 11/10 (which is ambiguous really.. is it october 11 or november 10th? neither are thurs, tho) | 17:46 |
bioterror | hi bodhi | 17:59 |
bogdan | hello everone | 18:46 |
wxl | yo | 18:47 |
bogdan | can anyone tell me if this happened to you: when you start chromium, the x server(or lxde) crashes and restarts | 18:47 |
bogdan | and I'm left at the login screen again | 18:47 |
bioterror | look for /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 18:49 |
bogdan | it seems that the lxde daemon seg-faulted | 18:51 |
bogdan | Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting | 18:51 |
bogdan | Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support | 18:51 |
bogdan | at http://wiki.x.org | 18:51 |
bogdan | for help. | 18:51 |
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silverlightning | hi | 19:29 |
silverlightning | someone stole my nick, I'm silverarrow too | 19:29 |
silverlightning | anyone trying the latest daily ? | 19:30 |
silverlightning | it crashes here | 19:30 |
silverlightning | I mean last fridays | 19:30 |
silverlightning | maybe todays would be better? | 19:30 |
silverlightning | someone stole my nick | 19:32 |
silverlightning | I shall snatch alias just to be even | 19:33 |
tzvi|laptop | any ideas why after i login my screens (2 ATI) go black? | 19:38 |
silverlightning | hi | 19:38 |
tzvi|laptop | hi | 19:38 |
silverlightning | hmm, newly installed? | 19:38 |
tzvi|laptop | nope | 19:38 |
tzvi|laptop | one moment to the next | 19:39 |
silverlightning | odd | 19:39 |
silverlightning | then it is not driver issues | 19:39 |
tzvi|laptop | dont think so | 19:39 |
silverlightning | some graphic cards can be horror in linux | 19:39 |
silverlightning | sorting out drivers I mean | 19:40 |
tzvi|laptop | yeah | 19:40 |
tzvi|laptop | ive used this card before w/o issues | 19:40 |
silverlightning | then it must be something else | 19:40 |
tzvi|laptop | i tried apt-get install lxde --reinstall | 19:41 |
tzvi|laptop | negative | 19:41 |
tzvi|laptop | tried turning off one monitor also negative | 19:42 |
tzvi|laptop | what logs can i check? | 19:42 |
tzvi|laptop | any idea | 19:43 |
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=== chum_bucket is now known as silverlightning | ||
silverlightning | eller | 19:44 |
silverlightning | or try this | 19:44 |
silverlightning | sudo service lxdm restart | 19:44 |
tzvi|laptop | no luck | 19:45 |
tzvi|laptop | im looking at xorg.0.log but i dont understand it :( | 19:47 |
tzvi|laptop | http://pastebin.com/eW7bAp44 if someone can take a look it would be greatly appreciated | 19:48 |
silverlightning | I had major issus with radeon 200M something | 19:51 |
silverlightning | I'm sorry, I'm not clever enough for it | 19:51 |
rodvil | Hello, I'm looking for some help. Its my first time here | 19:53 |
bogdan | sudo aticonfig --initial | 19:53 |
bogdan | and reboot | 19:53 |
bogdan | tvzi | 19:53 |
silverlightning | hi rodvil | 19:53 |
bogdan | sorry | 19:54 |
bogdan | according to your logs this will not work | 19:54 |
bogdan | try this: sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle | 19:55 |
rodvil | I'm having trouble with my wireless. I have a static IP internet and I just bought a simple D-Link router. I set up the wireless but my computer can't see the network. Another pc with windows can see it without problems | 19:55 |
bogdan | and apt-get install build-essential | 19:55 |
bogdan | actually install the build-essential first | 19:55 |
tzvi | bogdan: you talking to me? | 19:55 |
bogdan | yes | 19:55 |
tzvi | Great thanks | 19:56 |
silverlightning | rodvil, hmm, have you tried restarting your router? | 19:56 |
bogdan | tzvi | 19:56 |
rodvil | yes, several times | 19:56 |
silverlightning | rodvil, the very simple first | 19:56 |
silverlightning | ; ) | 19:56 |
silverlightning | hmm | 19:56 |
tzvi | bogdan: | 19:56 |
bogdan | also I think you might need to install linux-headers-generic | 19:56 |
rodvil | also restarting computer, changing network name and some other simple things that might work :) | 19:56 |
silverlightning | does it detect any networks? | 19:56 |
bogdan | ? | 19:57 |
rodvil | yes, a lot of networks here in the building, but not mine | 19:57 |
tzvi | Got it thanx bogdan | 19:57 |
silverlightning | like, if you get any networks listed in lubuntu? | 19:57 |
bogdan | please let me know if this worked | 19:57 |
silverlightning | hmm | 19:58 |
bogdan | you can test without restarting: sudo rmmod glx | 19:58 |
rodvil | I though it was from the router or network settings, but I tried now with a windows pc and it just worked perfectly | 19:58 |
bogdan | then sudo modprobe fglrx | 19:58 |
bogdan | sudo service lxdm restart | 19:58 |
silverlightning | wpa, wpa2 settings | 19:58 |
tzvi | bogdan: just left the office. But I will be back later and ill let you know | 19:58 |
bogdan | k | 19:58 |
rodvil | not sure about that one. its a preset key with 8 letters. I will try to identify that with the router | 19:59 |
silverlightning | hmm, those letters are from your internetprovider, like on a sticker? | 19:59 |
rodvil | nope, I set them | 20:00 |
silverlightning | hmm, most routers can do all encrytions | 20:00 |
rodvil | In the router admin area it just says its using wap/wap2. so I'm not sure which | 20:00 |
bogdan | @ rodvil : please post the output of: lspci|grep -i network | 20:01 |
meetingology | bogdan: Error: "rodvil" is not a valid command. | 20:01 |
bogdan | rodvil : please post the output of: lspci|grep -i network | 20:01 |
silverlightning | which wifi card do you have rovil? | 20:01 |
silverlightning | rodvil * sorry | 20:01 |
rodvil | 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) | 20:02 |
rodvil | this is the output for that command | 20:02 |
silverlightning | broadcom have issus in buntus! | 20:02 |
bogdan | yeah, it shows your wireless network card | 20:02 |
bogdan | not all of them | 20:02 |
bogdan | can you connect to other wireless networks? | 20:03 |
silverlightning | it is driver, as long as other networks are detected, I cannot see drivers being the problem | 20:03 |
rodvil | yes, first time having problems. I have this netbook for about 3 months only | 20:03 |
bogdan | can you please post the result of: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep <your_network_name> | 20:04 |
bogdan | ? | 20:04 |
silverlightning | broadcom usually works after first reboot, when the restricted drivers are added | 20:04 |
silverlightning | they need to be activated | 20:04 |
bogdan | yeah, but this way we can determine in the network broadcasts its ssid :) | 20:05 |
rodvil | wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning. | 20:05 |
phillw | and when you enable them, it usually knocks to sound off, you just need to turn te sound back on :) | 20:05 |
bogdan | :) | 20:05 |
bogdan | i had a laptop with broadcom wireless (ath9k) and worked fine | 20:06 |
rodvil | (why can't hardware makers just support linux!!!!) | 20:06 |
bogdan | what laptop do you have? | 20:06 |
silverlightning | rodvil, it is easily activated often | 20:06 |
bogdan | is the card disabled by a software switch (fn+f1) or something like that? | 20:06 |
bogdan | ? | 20:09 |
rodvil_ | sorry, I had a power problem | 20:10 |
bogdan | is the card disabled by a software switch (fn+f1) or something like that? | 20:10 |
rodvil_ | This is a asus eeepc 1015PN | 20:10 |
bogdan | the one with extended battery life? | 20:11 |
rodvil_ | I have had some troubles specially with video because it uses the new hibrid video drive | 20:11 |
bogdan | i thing that you might need to use wpa (not wpa2) as wireless security | 20:11 |
rodvil_ | it has a softare switch at f2 key | 20:12 |
bogdan | had some issues with one of my colleague's eeepc | 20:12 |
rodvil_ | and how do I change the security to wpa? | 20:12 |
bogdan | you basically have 2options: compile a custom module to support wpa2, or change to wpa | 20:12 |
phillw | rodvil_: your model is listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks Which is a handy place to start :) | 20:12 |
bogdan | in your wireless security section | 20:12 |
bogdan | on your router's setup page | 20:12 |
bogdan | usuallu 192.168.1.1 | 20:13 |
bogdan | usually* | 20:13 |
silverlightning | no, wpa2 should be supported | 20:13 |
KM0201 | bogdan: did it output exactly what you put above.. 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) you didn't miss a "lp-py" in there? | 20:13 |
KM0201 | it's not a wpa vs wpa2 issue | 20:13 |
bogdan | it might be worth a shot | 20:14 |
bogdan | to change to wpa | 20:15 |
KM0201 | no | 20:15 |
KM0201 | if you're gonna change it to anything... turn security off | 20:15 |
wxl | seems ridiculous | 20:15 |
KM0201 | (temporarily of course).. and see if it connects w/o security | 20:15 |
wxl | yeah i agree with that logic | 20:15 |
rodvil_ | I think I tried already turning security off before and didn't work | 20:15 |
silverlightning | no, it can be encryption issues, but, it is password only, not affecting network detection | 20:16 |
rodvil_ | I can try it again | 20:16 |
bogdan | yeah, are you sure you did not check some ssid broadcast disable setting? | 20:16 |
wxl | you did reboot after drive install right? | 20:16 |
bogdan | ssid broadcasting should be on | 20:16 |
rodvil_ | which drive install? I rebooted many times since setting the network | 20:17 |
wxl | aw nevermind, i'm confused | 20:17 |
wxl | that's what i get for getting in half way into a conversation | 20:17 |
silverlightning | rodvil_, but you have activated drivers? you have to do it maually from a function in menu | 20:19 |
rodvil_ | ok, this is the status of the nework now: Wireless enable; Auto channel selection enable; WMM enable; hidden wireless not enable; security mode wpa/wpa2 | 20:19 |
silverlightning | hard ware something, a green ikon like an internal networks card | 20:19 |
wxl | silverlightning: isn't that the "additional drivers" thing? | 20:20 |
rodvil_ | but I can see all these other wireless networks, what driver are you talking about? | 20:20 |
bogdan | can you see the wireless network npw? | 20:20 |
bogdan | now* | 20:20 |
silverlightning | wxl, yes, maybe, I am not in lubuntu right now, and my memory is short term on some stuff lol | 20:20 |
wxl | can you try to connect directly? (use the "connect to hidden network" option) | 20:20 |
rodvil_ | no, that is still the rpoblem. I can't see only my network, and a windows machine can see and connect to it | 20:21 |
KM0201 | rodvil_: menu/system tools/additional drivers, see if you see a broadcom driver there that is "activated" | 20:21 |
wxl | silverlightning: just making sure we're on the same page :D | 20:21 |
KM0201 | rodvil_: is your SSID broadcasting? if not, try broadcasting it and see if you can connect. | 20:21 |
rodvil_ | yes, broadcom driver is active | 20:22 |
bogdan | he just said that the hidden wireless setting in his router is not enabled | 20:22 |
rodvil_ | (by the way... thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!) | 20:22 |
KM0201 | well that doesnt make any sense... | 20:22 |
wxl | some systems (windows does this if i remember correctly), if they are familiar with a hidden ssid, will show it all the time | 20:22 |
wxl | so it makes it look not hidden when it is | 20:22 |
rodvil_ | I also tried before to make it hidden and trying to connect to it without success | 20:22 |
silverlightning | hmm | 20:23 |
wxl | did you try to connect to it as if it were hidden? | 20:23 |
rodvil_ | I can try that one now | 20:23 |
rodvil_ | but the windows machine that I tried now was the first time connecting to it without problems | 20:24 |
wxl | i know | 20:24 |
wxl | that's kind of what i was saying-- might not be surprising | 20:24 |
silverlightning | I need to reboot | 20:24 |
wxl | (have we looked in dmesg for driver messages already?) | 20:24 |
rodvil_ | Trying to connect to hidden without it being hidden doesnt work also | 20:25 |
rodvil_ | wxl: i don't think I did that dmesg thing | 20:26 |
bogdan | dmesg|grep -i error | 20:27 |
bogdan | dmesg|egrep '(bcm|ath)' | 20:27 |
rodvil_ | oh, I just remember... I think that when I started the router the first time I could see the network. it was only after I set the connection to the static IP and the new network id that I couldn't see it anymore. I didn't try to connect to the reset version of the wireless though | 20:27 |
wxl | might be interesting to reset the router and see what happens | 20:27 |
wxl | oh | 20:28 |
wxl | maybe dns cache issue? | 20:28 |
bogdan | can you please remove the old network from the network manager wireless list? | 20:28 |
rodvil_ | [ 17.903121] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro | 20:28 |
rodvil_ | [ 27.779230] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0 | 20:28 |
wxl | pastebin it | 20:29 |
wxl | (i assume there's more) :D | 20:29 |
bogdan | it has at most 2 lines | 20:29 |
bogdan | the ones with bcm or atheros | 20:29 |
rodvil_ | that was it for the first command, now the second: | 20:29 |
rodvil_ | [ 1.390316] device-mapper: multipath: version 1.2.0 loaded | 20:29 |
rodvil_ | [ 1.390325] device-mapper: multipath round-robin: version 1.0.0 loaded | 20:29 |
bogdan | sudo modprobe -l|egrep '(bcm|ath)' | 20:29 |
wxl | i say flush your dns cache: /etc/rc.d/init.d/nscd restart | 20:30 |
wxl | first remove the old network as bogdan said tho | 20:30 |
rodvil_ | I removed now the old nets | 20:30 |
wxl | have you tried to ping your router? | 20:31 |
bogdan | he does not see the network | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/phy/bcm63xx.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/ath5k.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_hw.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_common.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_htc.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ar9170/ar9170usb.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.ko | 20:31 |
bogdan | pinging the router with no connection... | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/input/mouse/bcm5974.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/bcm3510.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/md/multipath.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/staging/bcm/bcm_wimax.ko | 20:31 |
wxl | oh right :D | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/bluetooth/bcm203x.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/drivers/bluetooth/ath3k.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | kernel/net/can/can-bcm.ko | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | that was for this: sudo modprobe -l|egrep '(bcm|ath)' | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | no, didn't tried | 20:31 |
wxl | well there's always the etnernet | 20:31 |
bogdan | :) | 20:31 |
rodvil_ | I'm connected to the router but on a cable connection | 20:32 |
wxl | so that's kind of dumb tho | 20:32 |
wxl | harumph that's just weird | 20:32 |
rodvil_ | so... should I flush the dns cache and restart? | 20:33 |
bogdan | can you do a : sudo wlan0 scan |grep <your_network_name> again? | 20:33 |
john_rambo | howw to configure Abiword to check spellings ? ATM its not | 20:33 |
rodvil_ | sudo: wlan0: command not found | 20:34 |
bogdan | sudo iwlis wlan0 scan|grep network_name | 20:34 |
bogdan | iwlist | 20:34 |
bogdan | sorry | 20:34 |
bogdan | :) | 20:34 |
bogdan | sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep SSID | 20:35 |
bogdan | just like this | 20:35 |
rodvil_ | wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning. | 20:35 |
bogdan | ... | 20:35 |
bogdan | shoud at least let you scan | 20:35 |
bogdan | try without sudo | 20:35 |
rodvil_ | same result | 20:35 |
bogdan | lsmod|egrep '(ath|bcm)' | 20:36 |
bogdan | ? | 20:36 |
phillw | john_rambo: http://www.abisource.com/help/en-US/interface/menutools.html | 20:37 |
silverarrow | hi | 20:37 |
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wxl | nmap anyone? :D | 20:37 |
Guest48840 | I have major problems with package manager? | 20:37 |
wxl | Guest48840: which one? | 20:37 |
bogdan | why? he is not connected to the wireless network | 20:37 |
Guest48840 | can it be fixed? I am in 11.10 | 20:37 |
bogdan | how can he use nmap? | 20:37 |
Guest48840 | package manager crashes, I get no updates in updatemanager | 20:38 |
wxl | bogdan: by that same logic, how could he scan? | 20:38 |
wxl | i'm sort of thinking it's an issue with the card | 20:38 |
bogdan | me too | 20:38 |
rodvil_ | lsmod|egrep '(ath|bcm)' just gives nothing | 20:38 |
wxl | but then he does see other networks | 20:38 |
wxl | rodvil_: can you connect to any of those other networks? any open? | 20:38 |
rodvil_ | rodvil@mini-asus:~$ lsmod|egrep '(ath|bcm)' | 20:39 |
rodvil_ | rodvil@mini-asus:~$ lsmod|egre^C'(ath|bcm)' | 20:39 |
bogdan | sudo ifconfig wlan0 up | 20:39 |
rodvil_ | no open ones | 20:39 |
Guest48840 | hmm | 20:39 |
bogdan | or ifconfig without any other parameters shows wlan0? | 20:39 |
Guest48840 | how do I identify? | 20:39 |
rodvil_ | but I usually can connect without problems to other nets | 20:39 |
bogdan | Guest48840 try: sudo apt-get install -f (in a terminal) | 20:39 |
Guest48840 | I was silverlightning a few minutes ago | 20:40 |
bogdan | oh | 20:40 |
wxl | if it's not a card issue it's a driver issue | 20:40 |
rodvil_ | rodvil@mini-asus:~$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up | 20:40 |
rodvil_ | wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device | 20:40 |
bogdan | :) | 20:40 |
bogdan | ok | 20:40 |
Guest48840 | no packages available? | 20:41 |
Guest48840 | hmm | 20:41 |
john_rambo | phillw, I checked, there is no spellings submenu in the tools menu at my end | 20:41 |
bogdan | run: gksu jockey-gtk | 20:41 |
rodvil_ | I feel helpless! :( | 20:41 |
Guest48840 | I thought there would be loads of updates for 11.10? | 20:41 |
bogdan | and tell us what you see | 20:42 |
phillw | john_rambo: it may require installing | 20:42 |
Guest48840 | and package manager crashes on launch | 20:42 |
bogdan | Guest48840 try to launch update-manager from a terminal | 20:42 |
bogdan | an tell us what error appear there | 20:42 |
john_rambo | phillw, I tried ...which package ? | 20:42 |
phillw | john_rambo: try http://en.kioskea.net/faq/11811-abiword-enable-grammar-checking | 20:43 |
rodvil_ | It looks for additional drivers and then I see the broadcom sta wireless driver that is activated | 20:43 |
Guest48840 | bogan, I did the command you posted in terminal | 20:43 |
Guest48840 | must have a bad install? | 20:44 |
Guest48840 | I am booted in lubuntu now | 20:44 |
bogdan | what error did appear when the update-manager crashed? | 20:44 |
bogdan | rodvil_ it says that the driver is active? | 20:44 |
john_rambo | phillw, Thas already selected | 20:44 |
Guest48840 | a crash report | 20:44 |
bogdan | did you upgrade? | 20:45 |
Guest48840 | I didn't post it, it was already posted | 20:45 |
Guest48840 | no, i did an install from last fridays daily | 20:45 |
bogdan | oh | 20:45 |
Guest48840 | odd really | 20:45 |
Guest48840 | not very clever of me | 20:45 |
phillw | and, more to the point, which version of 11.10 are you using? At this stage, you should really be on the RC version, not the daily build. | 20:45 |
Guest48840 | I didn't expect this type of bug | 20:45 |
bogdan | rodvil_ try to disable and enable the driver | 20:46 |
bogdan | and reboot | 20:46 |
Guest48840 | phillw: RC? | 20:46 |
rodvil_ | ok | 20:46 |
bogdan | Guest48840: sudo apt-get install -f | 20:46 |
Guest48840 | ok, where do I find it? | 20:46 |
Guest48840 | I did that one bogdan | 20:46 |
bogdan | or sudo apt-get install aptitude | 20:46 |
bogdan | and sudo aptitude install -f | 20:46 |
bogdan | i find aptitude to work better | 20:46 |
bogdan | or sudo dpkg-reconfigure update-manager | 20:47 |
bogdan | or sudo aptitude reinstall update-manager | 20:47 |
phillw | Guest48840: Release Client... they are at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ and all seem to re-building, so be patient :) | 20:47 |
bogdan | release candidate you mean | 20:47 |
john_rambo | phillw, Done ....installed pacage aspell ..Thanks | 20:48 |
Guest48840 | thanks phillw | 20:48 |
phillw | bogdan: yup... it's been a long few days :P | 20:48 |
bogdan | about that, i really need to get some sleep. | 20:48 |
bogdan | cheers! | 20:49 |
rodvil_ | I'm restarting to see if something happened! | 20:49 |
rodvil_ | thanks for the help so far | 20:49 |
Guest48840 | phillw: I might be better of installing the final launched version | 20:50 |
Guest48840 | updates are comming | 20:51 |
phillw | Guest48840: allow the RC to settle, they are rebuilding as we speak, once done they will be final release wit a couple of updates. | 20:51 |
wxl | aw poo no ppc rc | 20:53 |
wxl | no matter the installer's prolly still borked | 20:55 |
wxl | i just want to see a 11.10 ppc mini.iso and i'm good | 20:55 |
Guest48840 | I still have package manager crash, never happened before | 20:56 |
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phillw | wxl: once the dust settles, the team will throw together a method for ppc | 20:57 |
silverlightning | it seems I need to change nick manually, after login | 20:57 |
=== Pupuser-1 is now known as silverlightning | ||
rodvil | I'm back and I still can't connect to my wireless network. just reset the router and reconfigured the whole thing. can't still see my network! | 21:29 |
silverlightning | very unusual | 21:29 |
KM0201 | rodvil: did you see if you could connect w/o any security? (even though i don't think this is a security issue) | 21:30 |
rodvil | now there is no security and I still can't see the network | 21:30 |
KM0201 | rodvil: but you can see others, correct? | 21:31 |
rodvil | yes, correct | 21:31 |
KM0201 | any chance one of them is open? | 21:31 |
rodvil | nope all closed | 21:31 |
rodvil | I see 19 wireless nets!!!! | 21:32 |
KM0201 | rodvil: what version of ubuntu are you using? | 21:32 |
rodvil | lubuntu 10.04 | 21:32 |
rodvil | 11.04 | 21:32 |
rodvil | sorry | 21:32 |
KM0201 | 32/64? | 21:32 |
wxl | rodvil: uname -a | 21:32 |
silverlightning | I have had this trouble in Vista, I ended up buying a new router | 21:32 |
rodvil | I already tried with another router brand before. I didn't dig so deaply because I thought it was a brand problem | 21:33 |
silverlightning | I was continuously disconnected for some weird reason, only on one computer | 21:33 |
rodvil | I think it is the internet provider static IP or something | 21:33 |
silverlightning | now I have that problem on a mach | 21:33 |
wxl | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1424280&page=2 this thread is interesting | 21:34 |
rodvil | rodvil@mini-asus:~$ uname -a | 21:34 |
rodvil | Linux mini-asus 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:18:14 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux | 21:34 |
KM0201 | rodvil: no... the router handles all that | 21:34 |
wxl | one person fixed it by a total reinstall | 21:34 |
KM0201 | so you're using 32bit. | 21:34 |
rodvil | yes.. is there a 64bit lubuntu? | 21:34 |
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wxl | another removes bcmwl-kernel-source and installs b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-lpphy-installer | 21:35 |
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wxl | what driver were you using again? | 21:36 |
rodvil | the additional broadcom sta driver | 21:37 |
KM0201 | wxl: he doesnnt have a lp-phy device, so.. that's pointless | 21:37 |
KM0201 | as for b43.. it doesn't seem that device is supported by b43.. | 21:37 |
rodvil | I can connect to other networks, I can connect to the router by cable. it has to be something specific from this specific wireless network! | 21:37 |
KM0201 | if b43 supports that device, then i would try to manually install it | 21:37 |
wxl | yeah just googling here | 21:38 |
rodvil | what is b43? | 21:38 |
KM0201 | rodvil: a driver | 21:38 |
wxl | as far as i can tell the sta is the official driver | 21:38 |
KM0201 | yeah. | 21:38 |
KM0201 | some devices will work w/ both, but the 4313, is not listed as working w/ the b43. | 21:39 |
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wxl | have we tried removing and reinstalling the driver? maybe download directly from broadcom | 21:39 |
rodvil | I tried before to remove and then reinstall | 21:39 |
KM0201 | wxl: don't think so... he tried the restricted driver, and he can see networks, so.. in theory, he should be able to see his network | 21:39 |
rodvil | didn't reboot in between though | 21:39 |
wxl | yeah rebooting is in general a good idea | 21:40 |
rodvil | I feel I just found a little tiny blackhole of improbability! | 21:40 |
KM0201 | rodvil: well, remove driver, reboot, activate driver, and reboot, see what happens | 21:40 |
rodvil | I reboot after reinstalling and not between removing and reinstalling | 21:41 |
rodvil | ok... going for that one now. | 21:41 |
KM0201 | rodvil: wel, the fact it is seeing other networks, suggests it is working fine... it's clearly something in your router settings | 21:41 |
wxl | there's a patch for >2.6.37 | 21:42 |
KM0201 | (it would seem anyway) | 21:42 |
wxl | wonder if it's already applied.. | 21:42 |
rodvil | KM0201: I also think so | 21:42 |
wxl | KM0201: i think it's curious that he's only seeing closed networks. if it were me, i'd go to the library or a coffee shop where i KNOW there's an open network and see what happens | 21:43 |
wxl | but i would do that after the remove, reboot, reinstall, rebooot | 21:43 |
KM0201 | wxl: exactly my thinking | 21:43 |
rodvil | I really think there is only close nets here. I usually see open nets without problem | 21:44 |
rodvil | rebooting now! | 21:44 |
KM0201 | wxl: i'm starting to think he's full of it.. | 21:47 |
wxl | hah | 21:47 |
KM0201 | or he's not telling us everything (for whatever reason) | 21:47 |
wxl | what would be the point to that, though? | 21:47 |
wxl | just to fuck with the lubuntu guys? | 21:47 |
KM0201 | wxl: trolls love to do that | 21:47 |
wxl | i mean seriously, who cares? | 21:47 |
wxl | yeah i guess | 21:47 |
KM0201 | well, not just lubuntu, they do it in linux channels all the time, show up w/ some ridiculous problem that *nobody* else has... and 3-4 people spend hours trouble shooting it, then they juts disappear, and never come back. | 21:48 |
wxl | huh, weird | 21:48 |
silverarrow | never heard of that? | 21:48 |
wxl | i tend to come in and out as needed so i guess that's not something i've seen | 21:48 |
KM0201 | not saying thats definitely the prob... but.. this one sure strikes me as weird | 21:48 |
wxl | i hear you | 21:48 |
KM0201 | how long have you guys been using linux? | 21:48 |
KM0201 | silverarrow: i know you've not been that long, but.. hang out in the large channels (like #ubuntu) some time.. and you'll see it. | 21:49 |
silverarrow | I have been using it on and off for a few years | 21:49 |
KM0201 | when you have experience, it's easy to spot. | 21:49 |
silverarrow | but lately a lot, the last year or so | 21:49 |
wxl | it's been a darn long while | 21:49 |
KM0201 | do you just not hang out in support channels much? | 21:50 |
wxl | exactly | 21:50 |
silverarrow | I haven't been in irc until fairly recently | 21:50 |
KM0201 | wel, obviously, that would be a pre-requisite requirement..lol | 21:50 |
KM0201 | ah, see.. i've been hanging ut on IRC since around fedora 4. | 21:51 |
rodvil | im back, didnt work | 21:51 |
KM0201 | rodvil: what exactly does lspci say (the entire line) about your wireless device.. | 21:52 |
silverarrow | I registered with silverlightning some time ago, can't remember anymore | 21:53 |
rodvil | 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8132 Fast Ethernet (rev c0) | 21:56 |
rodvil | 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) | 21:56 |
rodvil | KM0201: is this the ones you want | 21:57 |
KM0201 | yes, thank you | 21:57 |
wxl | disappeared. work | 21:58 |
KM0201 | no | 22:00 |
rodvil | any other ideas? | 22:03 |
KM0201 | rodvil: something isn't right. | 22:04 |
KM0201 | rodvil: what kind of router do you have? | 22:04 |
rodvil | d-link dir-600 | 22:06 |
wxl | to answer your question, KM0201 i started playing with freebsd around 20 years ago and not too long after that was flirting with redhat and slackware | 22:11 |
KM0201 | gotcha. | 22:11 |
wxl | ah, the frustrating days of rolling your own kernels.. i almost kind of miss it | 22:11 |
KM0201 | not me | 22:12 |
wxl | :) | 22:12 |
wxl | *ALMOST* | 22:13 |
wxl | i'll be honest, i had a hell of a time getting slackware to work on an old thinkpad | 22:13 |
wxl | ubuntu really turned things around for me | 22:13 |
wxl | and lubuntu just made it perfect :D | 22:14 |
KM0201 | yeah, first distro i got to work "100%" was fedora 5. but i had 3 and 4, working almost 100% | 22:14 |
KM0201 | so they were acceptable | 22:14 |
wxl | back in those days i was using dialup | 22:14 |
wxl | went through a lot of trouble to get the modem working | 22:14 |
wxl | finally succeeded but no such luck on the sound | 22:15 |
wxl | had a bit of a love affair with os x | 22:15 |
KM0201 | lol | 22:15 |
KM0201 | those were the days | 22:15 |
rodvil | my previous machine was working great for 2 years with different distros. this new one is killing me! | 22:15 |
wxl | i'd try a reinstall rodvil | 22:15 |
KM0201 | rodvil: i'm working on someone elses problem right now, then i'm gonna try to figure your issue out. | 22:15 |
KM0201 | i still think it's a router setting | 22:16 |
wxl | anywho os x just made me pine for freebsd | 22:16 |
wxl | i dual-booted our cursed windows desktop with qimo for my daughter | 22:16 |
rodvil | I'm heading to bed now. Will you be on around this time tomorrow? | 22:16 |
wxl | found myself using it a lot | 22:16 |
KM0201 | rodvil: probably | 22:17 |
KM0201 | rodvil: where are you located? | 22:17 |
wxl | rodvil: i'd really suggest you go find an open network in a public place and try it out. if it works, you know your problem is the router. if it doesn't, then it's the driver or the card. | 22:17 |
rodvil | Im living in Sweden now | 22:18 |
rodvil | I never had any trouble connecting to open nets | 22:19 |
wxl | the question is do you now | 22:19 |
wxl | answer that question clearly | 22:19 |
wxl | if you know the answer is yes | 22:19 |
wxl | then you know the problem is the router | 22:19 |
wxl | in which case you should join #dlink (j/k there's no such channel but suffice it to say #lubuntu ain't the place) | 22:19 |
rodvil | the problem is the connection between router and my lubuntu, I would say | 22:20 |
wxl | then get an air filter ;) | 22:20 |
rodvil | I'll try to connect tomorrow to a new net | 22:20 |
KM0201 | rodvil: i don't think so at all. | 22:20 |
KM0201 | rodvil: ok, try to connect to another network tomorrow, and let us know. | 22:20 |
rodvil | but if a window pc connects to the router then it cant be a router problem | 22:21 |
wxl | #1 rule to trouble shooting-- remove all variables no matter how stupid | 22:21 |
wxl | all = as many as possible | 22:21 |
rodvil | yes... I agree. I'm just realy frustrated with this one! | 22:22 |
wxl | hey dude, i feel ya | 22:22 |
wxl | i spent like a week trying to get 11.10 on my powerbook | 22:22 |
wxl | i cannot begin to tell you the trouble i went through | 22:22 |
wxl | in the end i decided to just wait for a more stable version to come out | 22:22 |
wxl | but i think i managed to get some clarity along the way | 22:23 |
rodvil | I have trouble with my video because of the new hibrid drive and bumblebee and so, but thats new technology. I kind of understand. But this black hole of nonsense!!! | 22:23 |
wxl | i found out what the problem was | 22:23 |
rodvil | :) | 22:23 |
wxl | anywho, see you tomorrow | 22:23 |
rodvil | see you... and thanks | 22:23 |
* phillw please head off to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ go and hug one.... please? | 23:44 | |
silverarrow | hi hyperair | 23:45 |
hyperair | hi silverarrow | 23:49 |
silverarrow | I opened phillw's link | 23:50 |
phillw | silverarrow: I do ensure that they are good links & I did tell you to wait for the re-spin to ensure you had the best version, | 23:52 |
phillw | hyperair: as you will have seen, lubuntu <> ubuntu core at 11.10, they really did not help themselves on that. | 23:54 |
silverarrow | yes, and my trouble was the daily from friday | 23:55 |
hyperair | phillw: i dunno, somehow i get the feeling negotiations must have broken down somewhere, because there seems to be quite some bad blood between lubuntu and the irc council. | 23:55 |
silverarrow | help themselves ? | 23:55 |
* silverarrow fetches ilks for blood cleansing | 23:56 | |
hyperair | phillw: on the other hand, i really don't think i'm getting the full picture here. | 23:56 |
phillw | hyperair: there is most likely bad blood between me and crr / cww - he is not a council member. | 23:56 |
hyperair | anyway, i think i'll talk to elky or someone sometime to get a clear picture on this before replying on that thread. | 23:56 |
phillw | hyperair: every time I've had a knock back, I've | 23:57 |
hyperair | phillw: speaking from personal experience, you've got a habit of treating things as black-and-white and not accepting anything in between, no offence meant. | 23:57 |
hyperair | phillw: which is mainly why i'd like to hear their side of the story first. | 23:58 |
phillw | hyperair: indeed. when you are raised in a ghetto, you learn wo to fight for. | 23:58 |
hyperair | phillw: there's something called a compromise. | 23:59 |
hyperair | phillw: if you force everyone into a me vs you situation, things don't turn out prettily. | 23:59 |
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