[00:12] suddenly i am a lubuntu user [00:14] why did it put me at the top [00:14] oh alphabetic === micahg_ is now known as micahg [05:04] I'm excited [05:05] about the upcoming lubuntu 10.10 which is to be release today 10/10, but it's still not on the lubuntu.net website ? [05:07] Well, it's 11.10 for the year.month [05:08] woops I misread. [05:08] thought its gonna be 11.10 lol [05:30] the release is on the 13th [05:30] Yeah, was about to say that when he left :/ [05:41] Wut ever happend to nautilus? [05:42] its like fman or something like that? [05:42] Nautilus is the default file manager for Gnome, I don't know what happened to it, but Lubuntu uses PCManFM [06:18] * wxl yawns === micahg_ is now known as micahg [17:44] so let me get this straight: on 11.10 is going to be released on thursday (https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04945.html) but it's coming out 11/10 (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/10/%23lubuntu.html around 05:05) too? which? what? [17:45] take it easy [17:45] it will come when it comes during that day ;) [17:45] * wxl stops hyperventilating [17:45] and my that you mean some? [17:46] thurs ≠ 11/10 (which is ambiguous really.. is it october 11 or november 10th? neither are thurs, tho) [17:59] hi bodhi [18:46] hello everone [18:47] yo [18:47] can anyone tell me if this happened to you: when you start chromium, the x server(or lxde) crashes and restarts [18:47] and I'm left at the login screen again [18:49] look for /var/log/Xorg.0.log [18:51] it seems that the lxde daemon seg-faulted [18:51] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting [18:51] Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support [18:51] at http://wiki.x.org [18:51] for help. === tzvi is now known as tzvi` [19:29] hi [19:29] someone stole my nick, I'm silverarrow too [19:30] anyone trying the latest daily ? [19:30] it crashes here [19:30] I mean last fridays [19:30] maybe todays would be better? [19:32] someone stole my nick [19:33] I shall snatch alias just to be even [19:38] any ideas why after i login my screens (2 ATI) go black? [19:38] hi [19:38] hi [19:38] hmm, newly installed? [19:38] nope [19:39] one moment to the next [19:39] odd [19:39] then it is not driver issues [19:39] dont think so [19:39] some graphic cards can be horror in linux [19:40] sorting out drivers I mean [19:40] yeah [19:40] ive used this card before w/o issues [19:40] then it must be something else [19:41] i tried apt-get install lxde --reinstall [19:41] negative [19:42] tried turning off one monitor also negative [19:42] what logs can i check? [19:43] any idea === silverlightning is now known as chum_bucket === chum_bucket is now known as silverlightning [19:44] eller [19:44] or try this [19:44] sudo service lxdm restart [19:45] no luck [19:47] im looking at xorg.0.log but i dont understand it :( [19:48] http://pastebin.com/eW7bAp44 if someone can take a look it would be greatly appreciated [19:51] I had major issus with radeon 200M something [19:51] I'm sorry, I'm not clever enough for it [19:53] Hello, I'm looking for some help. Its my first time here [19:53] sudo aticonfig --initial [19:53] and reboot [19:53] tvzi [19:53] hi rodvil [19:54] sorry [19:54] according to your logs this will not work [19:55] try this: sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle [19:55] I'm having trouble with my wireless. I have a static IP internet and I just bought a simple D-Link router. I set up the wireless but my computer can't see the network. Another pc with windows can see it without problems [19:55] and apt-get install build-essential [19:55] actually install the build-essential first [19:55] bogdan: you talking to me? [19:55] yes [19:56] Great thanks [19:56] rodvil, hmm, have you tried restarting your router? [19:56] tzvi [19:56] yes, several times [19:56] rodvil, the very simple first [19:56] ; ) [19:56] hmm [19:56] bogdan: [19:56] also I think you might need to install linux-headers-generic [19:56] also restarting computer, changing network name and some other simple things that might work :) [19:56] does it detect any networks? [19:57] ? [19:57] yes, a lot of networks here in the building, but not mine [19:57] Got it thanx bogdan [19:57] like, if you get any networks listed in lubuntu? [19:57] please let me know if this worked [19:58] hmm [19:58] you can test without restarting: sudo rmmod glx [19:58] I though it was from the router or network settings, but I tried now with a windows pc and it just worked perfectly [19:58] then sudo modprobe fglrx [19:58] sudo service lxdm restart [19:58] wpa, wpa2 settings [19:58] bogdan: just left the office. But I will be back later and ill let you know [19:58] k [19:59] not sure about that one. its a preset key with 8 letters. I will try to identify that with the router [19:59] hmm, those letters are from your internetprovider, like on a sticker? [20:00] nope, I set them [20:00] hmm, most routers can do all encrytions [20:00] In the router admin area it just says its using wap/wap2. so I'm not sure which [20:01] @ rodvil : please post the output of: lspci|grep -i network [20:01] bogdan: Error: "rodvil" is not a valid command. [20:01] rodvil : please post the output of: lspci|grep -i network [20:01] which wifi card do you have rovil? [20:01] rodvil * sorry [20:02] 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) [20:02] this is the output for that command [20:02] broadcom have issus in buntus! [20:02] yeah, it shows your wireless network card [20:02] not all of them [20:03] can you connect to other wireless networks? [20:03] it is driver, as long as other networks are detected, I cannot see drivers being the problem [20:03] yes, first time having problems. I have this netbook for about 3 months only [20:04] can you please post the result of: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep [20:04] ? [20:04] broadcom usually works after first reboot, when the restricted drivers are added [20:04] they need to be activated [20:05] yeah, but this way we can determine in the network broadcasts its ssid :) [20:05] wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning. [20:05] and when you enable them, it usually knocks to sound off, you just need to turn te sound back on :) [20:05] :) [20:06] i had a laptop with broadcom wireless (ath9k) and worked fine [20:06] (why can't hardware makers just support linux!!!!) [20:06] what laptop do you have? [20:06] rodvil, it is easily activated often [20:06] is the card disabled by a software switch (fn+f1) or something like that? [20:09] ? [20:10] sorry, I had a power problem [20:10] is the card disabled by a software switch (fn+f1) or something like that? [20:10] This is a asus eeepc 1015PN [20:11] the one with extended battery life? [20:11] I have had some troubles specially with video because it uses the new hibrid video drive [20:11] i thing that you might need to use wpa (not wpa2) as wireless security [20:12] it has a softare switch at f2 key [20:12] had some issues with one of my colleague's eeepc [20:12] and how do I change the security to wpa? [20:12] you basically have 2options: compile a custom module to support wpa2, or change to wpa [20:12] rodvil_: your model is listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks Which is a handy place to start :) [20:12] in your wireless security section [20:12] on your router's setup page [20:13] usuallu 192.168.1.1 [20:13] usually* [20:13] no, wpa2 should be supported [20:13] bogdan: did it output exactly what you put above.. 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) you didn't miss a "lp-py" in there? [20:13] it's not a wpa vs wpa2 issue [20:14] it might be worth a shot [20:15] to change to wpa [20:15] no [20:15] if you're gonna change it to anything... turn security off [20:15] seems ridiculous [20:15] (temporarily of course).. and see if it connects w/o security [20:15] yeah i agree with that logic [20:15] I think I tried already turning security off before and didn't work [20:16] no, it can be encryption issues, but, it is password only, not affecting network detection [20:16] I can try it again [20:16] yeah, are you sure you did not check some ssid broadcast disable setting? [20:16] you did reboot after drive install right? [20:16] ssid broadcasting should be on [20:17] which drive install? I rebooted many times since setting the network [20:17] aw nevermind, i'm confused [20:17] that's what i get for getting in half way into a conversation [20:19] rodvil_, but you have activated drivers? you have to do it maually from a function in menu [20:19] ok, this is the status of the nework now: Wireless enable; Auto channel selection enable; WMM enable; hidden wireless not enable; security mode wpa/wpa2 [20:19] hard ware something, a green ikon like an internal networks card [20:20] silverlightning: isn't that the "additional drivers" thing? [20:20] but I can see all these other wireless networks, what driver are you talking about? [20:20] can you see the wireless network npw? [20:20] now* [20:20] wxl, yes, maybe, I am not in lubuntu right now, and my memory is short term on some stuff lol [20:20] can you try to connect directly? (use the "connect to hidden network" option) [20:21] no, that is still the rpoblem. I can't see only my network, and a windows machine can see and connect to it [20:21] rodvil_: menu/system tools/additional drivers, see if you see a broadcom driver there that is "activated" [20:21] silverlightning: just making sure we're on the same page :D [20:21] rodvil_: is your SSID broadcasting? if not, try broadcasting it and see if you can connect. [20:22] yes, broadcom driver is active [20:22] he just said that the hidden wireless setting in his router is not enabled [20:22] (by the way... thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!) [20:22] well that doesnt make any sense... [20:22] some systems (windows does this if i remember correctly), if they are familiar with a hidden ssid, will show it all the time [20:22] so it makes it look not hidden when it is [20:22] I also tried before to make it hidden and trying to connect to it without success [20:23] hmm [20:23] did you try to connect to it as if it were hidden? [20:23] I can try that one now [20:24] but the windows machine that I tried now was the first time connecting to it without problems [20:24] i know [20:24] that's kind of what i was saying-- might not be surprising [20:24] I need to reboot [20:24] (have we looked in dmesg for driver messages already?) [20:25] Trying to connect to hidden without it being hidden doesnt work also [20:26] wxl: i don't think I did that dmesg thing [20:27] dmesg|grep -i error [20:27] dmesg|egrep '(bcm|ath)' [20:27] oh, I just remember... I think that when I started the router the first time I could see the network. it was only after I set the connection to the static IP and the new network id that I couldn't see it anymore. I didn't try to connect to the reset version of the wireless though [20:27] might be interesting to reset the router and see what happens [20:28] oh [20:28] maybe dns cache issue? [20:28] can you please remove the old network from the network manager wireless list? [20:28] [ 17.903121] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro [20:28] [ 27.779230] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0 [20:29] pastebin it [20:29] (i assume there's more) :D [20:29] it has at most 2 lines [20:29] the ones with bcm or atheros [20:29] that was it for the first command, now the second: [20:29] [ 1.390316] device-mapper: multipath: version 1.2.0 loaded [20:29] [ 1.390325] device-mapper: multipath round-robin: version 1.0.0 loaded [20:29] sudo modprobe -l|egrep '(bcm|ath)' [20:30] i say flush your dns cache: /etc/rc.d/init.d/nscd restart [20:30] first remove the old network as bogdan said tho [20:30] I removed now the old nets [20:31] have you tried to ping your router? [20:31] he does not see the network [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/phy/bcm63xx.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/ath5k.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_hw.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_common.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_htc.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ar9170/ar9170usb.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/carl9170/carl9170.ko [20:31] pinging the router with no connection... [20:31] kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/input/mouse/bcm5974.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/bcm3510.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/md/multipath.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/staging/bcm/bcm_wimax.ko [20:31] oh right :D [20:31] kernel/drivers/bluetooth/bcm203x.ko [20:31] kernel/drivers/bluetooth/ath3k.ko [20:31] kernel/net/can/can-bcm.ko [20:31] that was for this: sudo modprobe -l|egrep '(bcm|ath)' [20:31] no, didn't tried [20:31] well there's always the etnernet [20:31] :) [20:32] I'm connected to the router but on a cable connection [20:32] so that's kind of dumb tho [20:32] harumph that's just weird [20:33] so... should I flush the dns cache and restart? [20:33] can you do a : sudo wlan0 scan |grep again? [20:33] howw to configure Abiword to check spellings ? ATM its not [20:34] sudo: wlan0: command not found [20:34] sudo iwlis wlan0 scan|grep network_name [20:34] iwlist [20:34] sorry [20:34] :) [20:35] sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep SSID [20:35] just like this [20:35] wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning. [20:35] ... [20:35] shoud at least let you scan [20:35] try without sudo [20:35] same result [20:36] lsmod|egrep '(ath|bcm)' [20:36] ? [20:37] john_rambo: http://www.abisource.com/help/en-US/interface/menutools.html [20:37] hi === silverarrow is now known as Guest48840 [20:37] nmap anyone? :D [20:37] I have major problems with package manager? [20:37] Guest48840: which one? [20:37] why? he is not connected to the wireless network [20:37] can it be fixed? I am in 11.10 [20:37] how can he use nmap? [20:38] package manager crashes, I get no updates in updatemanager [20:38] bogdan: by that same logic, how could he scan? [20:38] i'm sort of thinking it's an issue with the card [20:38] me too [20:38] lsmod|egrep '(ath|bcm)' just gives nothing [20:38] but then he does see other networks [20:38] rodvil_: can you connect to any of those other networks? any open? [20:39] rodvil@mini-asus:~$ lsmod|egrep '(ath|bcm)' [20:39] rodvil@mini-asus:~$ lsmod|egre^C'(ath|bcm)' [20:39] sudo ifconfig wlan0 up [20:39] no open ones [20:39] hmm [20:39] or ifconfig without any other parameters shows wlan0? [20:39] how do I identify? [20:39] but I usually can connect without problems to other nets [20:39] Guest48840 try: sudo apt-get install -f (in a terminal) [20:40] I was silverlightning a few minutes ago [20:40] oh [20:40] if it's not a card issue it's a driver issue [20:40] rodvil@mini-asus:~$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up [20:40] wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device [20:40] :) [20:40] ok [20:41] no packages available? [20:41] hmm [20:41] phillw, I checked, there is no spellings submenu in the tools menu at my end [20:41] run: gksu jockey-gtk [20:41] I feel helpless! :( [20:41] I thought there would be loads of updates for 11.10? [20:42] and tell us what you see [20:42] john_rambo: it may require installing [20:42] and package manager crashes on launch [20:42] Guest48840 try to launch update-manager from a terminal [20:42] an tell us what error appear there [20:42] phillw, I tried ...which package ? [20:43] john_rambo: try http://en.kioskea.net/faq/11811-abiword-enable-grammar-checking [20:43] It looks for additional drivers and then I see the broadcom sta wireless driver that is activated [20:43] bogan, I did the command you posted in terminal [20:44] must have a bad install? [20:44] I am booted in lubuntu now [20:44] what error did appear when the update-manager crashed? [20:44] rodvil_ it says that the driver is active? [20:44] phillw, Thas already selected [20:44] a crash report [20:45] did you upgrade? [20:45] I didn't post it, it was already posted [20:45] no, i did an install from last fridays daily [20:45] oh [20:45] odd really [20:45] not very clever of me [20:45] and, more to the point, which version of 11.10 are you using? At this stage, you should really be on the RC version, not the daily build. [20:45] I didn't expect this type of bug [20:46] rodvil_ try to disable and enable the driver [20:46] and reboot [20:46] phillw: RC? [20:46] ok [20:46] Guest48840: sudo apt-get install -f [20:46] ok, where do I find it? [20:46] I did that one bogdan [20:46] or sudo apt-get install aptitude [20:46] and sudo aptitude install -f [20:46] i find aptitude to work better [20:47] or sudo dpkg-reconfigure update-manager [20:47] or sudo aptitude reinstall update-manager [20:47] Guest48840: Release Client... they are at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ and all seem to re-building, so be patient :) [20:47] release candidate you mean [20:48] phillw, Done ....installed pacage aspell ..Thanks [20:48] thanks phillw [20:48] bogdan: yup... it's been a long few days :P [20:48] about that, i really need to get some sleep. [20:49] cheers! [20:49] I'm restarting to see if something happened! [20:49] thanks for the help so far [20:50] phillw: I might be better of installing the final launched version [20:51] updates are comming [20:51] Guest48840: allow the RC to settle, they are rebuilding as we speak, once done they will be final release wit a couple of updates. [20:53] aw poo no ppc rc [20:55] no matter the installer's prolly still borked [20:55] i just want to see a 11.10 ppc mini.iso and i'm good [20:56] I still have package manager crash, never happened before === Guest48840 is now known as silverlightning [20:57] wxl: once the dust settles, the team will throw together a method for ppc [20:57] it seems I need to change nick manually, after login === Pupuser-1 is now known as silverlightning [21:29] I'm back and I still can't connect to my wireless network. just reset the router and reconfigured the whole thing. can't still see my network! [21:29] very unusual [21:30] rodvil: did you see if you could connect w/o any security? (even though i don't think this is a security issue) [21:30] now there is no security and I still can't see the network [21:31] rodvil: but you can see others, correct? [21:31] yes, correct [21:31] any chance one of them is open? [21:31] nope all closed [21:32] I see 19 wireless nets!!!! [21:32] rodvil: what version of ubuntu are you using? [21:32] lubuntu 10.04 [21:32] 11.04 [21:32] sorry [21:32] 32/64? [21:32] rodvil: uname -a [21:32] I have had this trouble in Vista, I ended up buying a new router [21:33] I already tried with another router brand before. I didn't dig so deaply because I thought it was a brand problem [21:33] I was continuously disconnected for some weird reason, only on one computer [21:33] I think it is the internet provider static IP or something [21:33] now I have that problem on a mach [21:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1424280&page=2 this thread is interesting [21:34] rodvil@mini-asus:~$ uname -a [21:34] Linux mini-asus 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:18:14 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [21:34] rodvil: no... the router handles all that [21:34] one person fixed it by a total reinstall [21:34] so you're using 32bit. [21:34] yes.. is there a 64bit lubuntu? === silverlightning is now known as chum_bucket [21:35] another removes bcmwl-kernel-source and installs b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-lpphy-installer === chum_bucket is now known as silverlightning [21:36] what driver were you using again? [21:37] the additional broadcom sta driver [21:37] wxl: he doesnnt have a lp-phy device, so.. that's pointless [21:37] as for b43.. it doesn't seem that device is supported by b43.. [21:37] I can connect to other networks, I can connect to the router by cable. it has to be something specific from this specific wireless network! [21:37] if b43 supports that device, then i would try to manually install it [21:38] yeah just googling here [21:38] what is b43? [21:38] rodvil: a driver [21:38] as far as i can tell the sta is the official driver [21:38] yeah. [21:39] some devices will work w/ both, but the 4313, is not listed as working w/ the b43. === silverlightning is now known as silverarrow [21:39] have we tried removing and reinstalling the driver? maybe download directly from broadcom [21:39] I tried before to remove and then reinstall [21:39] wxl: don't think so... he tried the restricted driver, and he can see networks, so.. in theory, he should be able to see his network [21:39] didn't reboot in between though [21:40] yeah rebooting is in general a good idea [21:40] I feel I just found a little tiny blackhole of improbability! [21:40] rodvil: well, remove driver, reboot, activate driver, and reboot, see what happens [21:41]