[00:00] Q-FUNK: if you're using Unity, just click the network icon and select Edit Connections [00:00] if you're using GNOME Shell, you'll need to manually run nm-connection-editor [00:00] Ah, the adventure continues... The users/change user/guest session menu has disappeared from my unity panel now. Is there an easy fix? [00:01] jbicha: gnome shell, here. no menu entry for that tool? [00:01] Q-FUNK: nope, a bit of a regression there [00:04] jbicha: ok. good to know. thanks! [00:05] jbicha: actually, using nm-connection-editor doesn't seem to affect the list of connections known by nm-applet in gnome shell. :( [00:06] jbicha: nm-applet still tries to connect to an AP that it shouldn't, because it thinks this is the one I prefer. [00:06] jbicha: but thanks for the tip on how to call the connection editor from hidden places anyway :) [00:10] so if i install from the live beta all i need to do is update it and it will upgrade to the official release? [00:10] i mean when the official release comes out [00:11] !beta [00:11] If you install a development version of Ubuntu Oneiric and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.10 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [00:21] how can i turn off system sounds in 11.10? there is no option for None as a sound scheme [00:22] is anyone else experiencing system hangups/freezing? [00:23] stable for me [00:23] binni: i am [00:23] binni: gnome3 [00:25] l00pb4ck: I need to regularly restart in all (gnome3, unity, classic/fallback, with or without 3D) [00:25] so far noticed that it happens allot while using tomboy and gnome shell [00:26] binni: gnome hangs on me all the time . and only four days till rls :D [00:26] when i try to search for anything in shell it hangs [00:26] but background services still run [00:27] nautilus crashes a lot in gnome3 [00:28] l00pb4ck: I'm hoping it's just my computer getting old, otherwise I'm a bit concerned for ubuntu. [00:28] betas have always been alphas for ubuntu [00:29] from my experience [00:29] becomes a lot more stable 2 weeks after official rls === Chotaz_ is now known as Chotaz [00:34] froze again.. well at least bug squashing continues after release. === Logan_ is now known as | === | is now known as Logan_ === Logan_ is now known as ^^ [01:47] after installing 11.10 and running update-grub, I get error: unknown LVM metadata header. [02:03] pac1, think there is something in the release notes about that though not entirely certain [02:10] nothing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta2 [02:38] hey folks, unity on 11.10 gdm not showing as a service "gdm: unrecognized service" how do I stop X? [02:39] Mike``, gdmwas dropped, you should use lightdm instead [02:40] is lightdm a utility or a service? [02:40] a "sudo service lightdm stop" will stop X [02:40] so sudo service lightdm stop? [02:40] gotcha thank you [02:40] a service, it was used as a replace for gdm [02:40] no problem ;) [02:48] Is there a netbook edition for 11.10... I can't find it at http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ [02:50] Tohuw: netbook was merged in Unity [02:50] qin: oh... so I just use the desktop install? [02:51] Tohuw: Yes [02:51] Neat. === micahg_ is now known as micahg [03:05] ..... /me .. mad [03:08] I have [sda|sdb]->raid1->/boot I have [sdc|sdd|sde|sdf|sdg]->raid6->lvm->{remainder of system}. Is this setup so complicated that the installer can't figure out how to hanndle it? [03:09] I know grub supports booting from raid <= 1 ... Isn't the initrd image supposed to hold the remainder of what's required to boot? [03:10] My install is failing right when the system is supposed to be mounting things and installing them. I'm seeing a message about bootstrap-base failing. [03:10] Hi, lsof /usr/lib/libpoppler* show okular but ldd okular doesn't show libpoppler, what does this means? [03:26] I wonder if I found a bug in bootstrap-base... [04:02] Is there a key-combination with which I can power down an 11.10 Oneiric machine in the login screen (via the top right corner menu item), that has no mouse connected? [04:03] I mean, other than going into another console and typing in the shutdown command..? [04:04] Klojum: try F10 to access the indicator status menus [04:05] Hello! I'm running Ubuntu on a PC and trying to install openvpn. The first step of the guide tells me to install openvpn by using "apt-get install openvpn" and so I did. The second step of the guide tells me to "Extract your downloaded configuration files into /home//openvpn directory", but there's no such directory to be found. Why? :/ [04:05] = your login nick that you use [04:07] jbicha: Okay thanks, will try that later. Just fully booted up now with another mouse I found. I was curious, because with the 'normal' menu it would be ALT-F1 or so, but that didn't do anything. :-) [04:08] Wifi hick-up of sorts, was running a torrent client, when I was dropped from my network and unable to connect. Was not a router issue, so I restarted my laptop and now no networks are listed. [04:12] JDog2pt0, i ran accross that too [04:13] Find a solution? Or are you still suffering from it. Right now I'm just plugged into my phone [04:14] i just reinstalled natty [04:14] have bine looking on launchpad for a similer bug report [04:14] Thanks [04:15] Also, not sure if this occurred on Natty, but with headphones in, once I drop the volume below a certain point it cuts out completely. [04:20] zenrox: I honestly don't understand where to look. [04:20] burntodisc, what is the name you use to login to your computer [04:20] zenrox: "user" [04:21] you use user [04:21] ?? [04:21] Yes. [04:21] ok then = user [04:21] its /home/user/openvpn [04:22] zenrox: Do I have to create that directory? I'm not finding it. [04:22] yes [04:22] i would assume [04:22] zenrox: Let me try the next steps and see what happens. [04:23] ok [04:25] zenrox: "Options error: In [CMD-LINE]:1: Error opening configuration file: /openvpn/anonine.ovpn" [04:25] somethign else is wrong [04:25] you dont have /openvpn/anonine.ovpn [04:26] zenrox: Hmm... [04:27] but i dont have a clue as i have never played with openvpn [04:27] google it [04:27] you might have some more luck [04:27] zenrox: The file "anonine.ovpn" is in "/home/user/openvpn". [04:29] but its looken in /openvpn [04:30] what does the instructons say at that point [04:30] ?? [04:30] zenrox: https://www.anonine.com/en/guides/openvpn_ubuntu [04:31] zenrox: I'm following the steps for "Command-line based start". [04:31] change $HOME to /home/user/openvpn [04:32] sudo openvpn --client --config $HOME/openvpn/anonine.ovpn --ca $HOME/openvpn/anonine.ca.crt sudo openvpn --client --config /home/user/openvpn/anonine.ovpn --ca /home/user/openvpn/anonine.ca.crt [04:32] zenrox: Thanks! Let me try! [04:33] thes $HOME dont work right [04:33] hi all [04:33] hello [04:34] zenrox: I think it worked. Hang on a minute... :> [04:39] did that work burntodisc === jk-- is now known as jk- [04:44] anyone know how firefox chooses its UI font? it seems to be out of sync with the general gnome settings [04:44] (same with thunderbird) [04:44] it should be in the preferences === Logan_ is now known as Guest66289 [04:46] yeah preferences -> content -> set default font [04:46] corrosive23: this is for the UI (tab titles, etc) not the document content === Guest66289 is now known as Logan_ [04:49] zenrox: Are you still here? [04:49] yes [04:49] did it work [04:50] zenrox: Awesome. I didn't get another error, but I had no connection(?) and I'd like to avoid doing all that in Terminal everytime I want to use the VPN connection. [04:53] zenrox: Hello? [04:55] woot, thank you askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49044/how-to-fix-the-fonts-in-firefox [05:02] Any VirtualBox users in here? [05:08] burntodisc, you could add that to a start up script but i dont know how to do that [05:08] and i am a virtualbox user [05:09] but i have to take a shower my wife told me to go do it or else [05:09] Hm, I suppose I could install wicd and see if that gets my network back online [05:09] bbl [05:11] zenrox: Sorry for not responding. I was reading something else! [05:12] burntodisc i've used vbox, switched over to vmware though [05:12] vsync_: But VirtualBox is free. :> [05:13] and so is vmware player [05:15] vsync_: Ahh... :/ [05:16] Anyone here any good with wireless issues? [05:17] JDog2pt0, there are wki's generally if not what is the card? [05:17] wiki's [05:17] Don't need a wiki [05:18] Seems like a bug, but I'm not sue [05:18] sure* [05:18] JDog2pt0, what's the card is the key usually, sounds like one that usually works? [05:19] It was working an hour or so ago, and just fine on Natty [05:19] Gimme a sec to type up what happend [05:19] JDog2pt0, broadcom? [05:19] Yes [05:20] JDog2pt0, you need to reload it a upgrade does not carry the drivers [05:20] !broadcom [05:20] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [05:20] I assume that it is basically the same fir oneiric and that you have upgraded. [05:21] for* [05:21] i just installed gnome-shell but does anyone know how i can get the default gnome 3 theme [05:21] So it working in oneiric for a few days then suddenly not working will be fixed on that page [05:23] JDog2pt0, you described it as working on natty a hour ago. [05:23] Not much you can do with Gnome atm on Oneiric. For me anyways. 3.2 is pretty bugged up when it comes to themes... [05:23] No [05:23] It worked on Oneiric an hour ago [05:23] JDog2pt0, not sure then. [05:23] Thats why I said, give me a minute to type up an explanation :p [05:24] Running a torrent program and wifi cuts out. Not my router so I reboot the laptop and no networks are listed. Gnome- Nothing Wicd-Nothing. Iwlist in the terminal gives me interface doesn't support scanning [05:24] tab1293, I had gnome 3 not showing and used these file changes it is back now. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1856276 [05:26] urlin2u, but does that enable the gnome3 default theme not the ubuntu one? [05:26] It's not an ugly theme problem is it? [05:27] http://computerandu.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-11-04/ [05:27] Scroll down to "To get rid of the Ugly Themes" [05:27] How do I install VirtualBox? I've already asked in #vbox and they won't give me an answer. Please help. [05:28] burntodisc, what files do you have to work with? [05:28] JDog2pt0: I have no files since I don't know where to start. [05:28] Ah lol [05:29] burntodisc, well I'm on their download page, but they don't have anything for oneiric yet [05:29] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads [05:29] So 11.04 won't work? [05:29] I don't see why the natty deb wouldn't work though [05:29] Give it a shot [05:30] So I download the .deb from there and then? [05:30] Double click it, should bring up the software center [05:30] JDog2pt0: And that is the ONLY file I need to download from there? [05:30] Mmhmm [05:30] As far as I know anyways [05:31] a .deb is similar to an .exe [05:31] not [05:31] When referring to installers [05:31] Similar enough for his needs [05:31] vsync_: Give me a second opinion. Do you think I should try to install the .deb for 11.04? [05:32] It isn't going to mess up your machine man... [05:32] At most, it won't work [05:32] JDog2pt0: Let me try it then... :> [05:36] JDog2pt0: It worked! [05:36] Thanks! [05:36] Kinda thought it would >.> [05:36] Np [05:36] Does anyone else have trouble loading the forum archive on the ubuntu pages? [05:37] What's the URL? :> [05:37] Any of them, but heres on for example [05:37] http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Farchive%2Findex.php%2Ft-315209.html&rct=j&q=iwlist%20interface%20doesn%27t%20support%20scanning&ei=EISSTuDuJoa2tgfw5fSNDA&usg=AFQjCNFVCAmNTecM1aZXz01IoXmvM_3HIQ&cad=rja [05:38] All I get, and all I've ever gotten are a white page [05:38] JDog2pt0: Not loading for me. [05:38] Yes, same here. [05:38] Hm, alright then, thanks [05:38] I'm glad I could give something back. :> [05:39] This is actually my first time on the IRC [05:40] Expected more traffic to be honest [05:42] JDog2pt0: Me too. [05:43] hmmm [05:43] ok i smell better [05:45] Cool story brah... [05:45] Zenrox, you traffic the Ubuntu forums a lot? [05:45] yes [05:45] You know why the archive pages don't load? [05:45] i have bine on the forums since the very begging [05:46] Not sure what bine is [05:46] cant spell [05:47] What? [05:47] no idea why archive pages load [05:47] Is there anyone here who did not already see my question in #ubuntu? [05:47] Me [05:48] The archive pages don't load for me, at least when linking through google [05:48] that probly has something to do with google [05:48] Before I buy one of these: http://www.digitalnow.com.au/product_pages/Quad.html [05:49] ....I'd like to know whether the necessary drivers have been made part of the apt "tree"???? with oneiric ??? [05:49] Zenrox, yeah but even when it's just the archive url in my browser and I hit refresh, the page still refuses to load [05:49] (ie if it won't work "out of the box" I don't really want one as yet.....) [05:50] davidius, Not sure man. It would take some looking and reading [05:50] hmm JDog2pt0 instering [05:50] davidius, Read here? http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11978 [05:51] i just showed him that [05:51] lol [05:51] I just tried to install Adobe Flash plugin from Ubuntu Software Center and it failed. [05:51] Hi. How polonize 2d unity in ubuntu 11.10? I like to set the locale? Locale.gen somewhere? [05:51] What do I do now? [05:51] Wtf. Now the pages are loading [05:51] Hey burntodisc, give me a sec man [05:51] JDog2pt0: Thanks! [05:52] Did it give you an error? [05:52] Yes, do you want me to try again and tell you what it says? [05:52] why did it fail [05:52] burntodisc, try using synaptic [05:52] Yes [05:53] Already seen that. It does not answer my question: Will I still need to manually compile/install with ****11.10****** ?? [05:53] burntodisc, if you don't know what/how to work synaptic i'll help you out [05:53] JDog2pt0: zenrox: Package operation failed. The installation or removal of a software package failed. [05:53] burntodisc, do you have previous flash software installed? [05:54] No, I installed Ubuntu last night. [05:54] burntodisc, open synaptic and search for flash and try to install it [05:54] search adobe-flashplugin [05:54] zenrox: I'm not sure how to do that. New to Linux. :/ [05:54] burntodisc thought so [05:54] its under the system menu [05:54] He's using Gnome [05:55] ahh [05:55] search synaptic [06:07] i am using gnome-tweak-tool to try to change the gnome-shell theme but it has a caution triangle next to the drop box and it wont let me change it [06:07] 3.2 is broken [06:07] tab1293: you need to install user themes extension [06:08] tab1293: see here: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html [06:08] it isn't unfortunately in the official repos [06:08] 3.2 is still broken even with that [06:09] User Theme Extensions don't work properly with Gnome 3.2 [06:12] that works just fine [06:18] th_, i just installed that and im still not able to select themes [06:19] tab1293: yes, it's a bit tricky, you need to enable it first [06:19] how do you enable it [06:19] i didnt see instructions other then installing it on that site [06:20] after you install it, restart gnome tweak tool [06:20] see shell extensions [06:20] click it enabled [06:20] restart that crap again =P [06:20] now you should be able to select theem [06:20] theme [06:21] My themes haven't been working, so I've been stuck with default [06:21] th_, ok thanks its working now [06:21] tab1293: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/looking-for-a-beautiful-gnome-shell-theme-try-nord [06:21] :) [06:22] altho, you also need to disabel that 'use file manager as desktop' from tweak tool or disable global menu or that theme gets messed up a bit [06:24] yet another theme obsessed with making everything transparent [06:24] transparency is the hip thing of today [06:24] ^ [06:25] what i want to know, is when is someone going to make a good gtk3 theme? [06:25] looks like gnome-shell falls into the same trap as plasma, where it needs totally different themes to everything else on the system, and thus nothing ever quite matches [06:25] unity+ambience <3 =P [06:26] yeah, ambience is total garbage [06:26] impossible to tell which window has focus [06:26] buttons are too small and in the wrong place [06:26] th_, im putting the folder in /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme but its still not coming up in the tweak tool [06:26] and the widgets look cold due to the blue tint [06:27] tab, make sure user theme extensions are enabled [06:28] tab1293: put them to ~/.themes [06:28] th_, i tried both [06:28] and JDog2pt0 it says ints enabled in tweak tool [06:28] probably need to restart tweak tool after every change [06:28] Alright [06:28] it sucks arse [06:29] i have restarted it [06:29] Gnome 3.2 is bugged with it comes to all that stuff [06:29] installing themes just went 10 years back with gnome3 tbh [06:29] No, gnome 3.2 [06:29] gnome2 = drag the theme into the theme dialog... sooo easy [06:29] On Natty, that stuff worked fine [06:32] i dont get why it wont work [06:32] *facepalm* Gnome 3.2 is broken [06:32] That's why [06:32] hm.. worked fine for me, tested gnome-shell + that noid theme yesterday.. [06:33] You must be one of the lucky ones then [06:33] nah i'm not using gnome-shell anyway, it messes up all other opengl apps [06:33] and i need my games tyvm [06:33] Now I'm confuseed [07:06] Hey, will the sni-qt package convert all Qt tray icons to indicators? [07:40] On my kubuntu oneric beta2 system, if I just update packages when the final is out, will I end up with a clone of a similar system to a fresh install or is a reinstall recommended? [07:42] GirlyGirl: I asked the same question a couple of days ago. Some people told me to reinstall and some people told me to "just update". [07:43] Hello. In "System Settings" I tried to open the "Language Support" dialog. It pops up for a moment and closes again. Too short to read anything. What could cause this? [07:46] vlt, a crash? [07:47] hakermania: How to check? [07:47] hakermania: (Maybe there are just some permissions missing.) [07:47] vlt, give me a sec [07:49] vlt, run 'gnome-language-selector' through a terminal and see any errors. [08:02] burntodisc: In theroy according to me it should be the same thing ... after all there are people who will upgrade from natty and that has more differneces [08:12] hakermania: From terminal it works. [08:13] vlt, weirdy [08:13] Don't know :) [08:49] Hello. How does two-finger scrolling work? Does my touchpad have to support it? [08:51] vlt: yes, your touchpad needs to support it. [08:51] jk-: Ok, thank you. [08:55] What IM client is installed by default (with pkg ubuntu-desktop)? [08:58] vlt: empathy [09:36] so, i am unable to push stuff to github (via ssh), because of "Write failed: broken pipe". I feel certain some ssh weirdness is to blame. any idea how to chase this down? === askandlearn is now known as raindrops [09:42] hi, anybody any idea what happened to gnome-power-preferences? It seems to be gone and I'd like to remove the setting that dims my screen after 10 seconds. [09:45] rdewit_: Gnome3 has a different package set so it must be there under something else [09:45] rdewit_: if screen dimming works its definitely there [09:46] GirlyGirl: I'm using unity, but that seems to use some gnome packages. Screen dimming works, yes, but can't find the documentation that tells how to control it now. [09:47] rdewit_: Unity is just a replacement for gnome-shell ... apps in 11.10 ar gnome 3 [09:47] rdewit_: đi you try finding in control center? it's there, in either display, screen or power... [09:49] Stanley00: you were right, it's in 'Screen'! [09:49] rdewit_: :) [09:49] A bit confusing those split settings [09:49] thanks both! [10:03] bjsnider, see you're in the channel again... Just in case you were interested, I got my issue from yesterday narrowed down a lot more now [10:05] bjsnider, It seems it wasn't a compiz issue, it was a dconf issue. At least, copying my folders from my config-backup folder back into ~/.config and then removing one by one (selectively, of course) revealed that the ~/.config/dconf/ folder was the cuĺprit. [10:13] Hey folks, I have a number of issues with my Oneiric upgrade - one is that the user switcher menu has disappeared from the unity panel. Any simple way to get it back? [10:19] thoeger: try running: /usr/lib/indicator-session/indicator-session-service [10:31] jk-, gives some feedback, want me to pastebin it? [10:32] thoeger: no, just checking that the indicator is installed [10:32] (and that running that doesn't fix the problem) [10:32] however, there may be interesting stuff in the output [10:32] ok [10:32] so, couldn't hurt to paste it :) [10:32] Yeah, I just don't know what to look for...? [10:33] yeah, this is outside my area [10:33] Hi, I'm having issues with my ubuntu (oneiric) lock screen with dual monitors. It is somehow messed up, has anyone had experience with this? [10:36] hello thar, since everything is frozen in oneiric any, how do You think is it quite safe to do dist-upgrade right now? [10:37] jk-, indicator-session-service, that's nopt the same as the user switcher indicator is it? [10:40] jk-, because the power button cog" is there just fine, showing logoff etc options as expected. But no user switcher. Is that the same indicator? [10:40] thoeger: ah, ok [10:41] could it be related to the fact that the users and groups settings crash when I try opening them, and that guest session and my wife's account both are deaactivated in GDM/LightDM? [10:41] thoeger: I have: indicator-application-service indicator-session-service indicator-sound-service indicator-messages-service indicator-datetime-service [10:42] (`ps uxf | grep indicator`) [10:43] Same here [10:43] I guess it's down to users and groups somehow being borked [10:46] Is there a CLI to open the Users and Groups settings panel? I'm not talkgin about CLI user admin tools, but a command to open the system settings' Users & Groups panel, so I can maybe get some feedback on why it's crashing... [10:53] thoeger: is this it? gnome-control-center user-accounts [10:54] Stanley00, thanks! It just gives me a segfault, core dumped message though [10:55] thoeger: try add -v switch to that command, hope that help [10:56] Stanley00, thx... But it only finds one user. What happened to my wife's account? (the home folder is still there). Also what happened to the guest session option? Where can I see that/possibly fix it? [10:58] thoeger: sorry, that's out of my ability... [11:09] Howdy all [11:11] This exact same system (no hardware changes at all) was quiet and stable when running Windows XP. I switched to Ubuntu less than two days ago and ever since it has felt as if the system is stressed, anxious and uneven. What could be the cause? [11:15] raindrops, 11.10 ? if so one must remember it is a beta release , not all apps are rerady for prime time ..XP eh, how old is your pc ? [11:15] BluesKaj: 11.10 Daily Build. [11:16] exactly [11:17] So you think that's it? [11:19] raindrops, you may have some hardware/driver issues and or power management , suggest you look inti that. [11:20] Obviously not since Windows XP was doing just fine? :/ [11:21] XP has nothing to do with ubuntu power management and drivers [11:23] I missunderstood what you said. [11:29] jk-, Turned out that when I re-added my wife's account with useradd, the choices popped up. I don't understand, though, why the guest session option has gone? [11:39] Hey folks, is there a CLI command to add additional info about a user - like, full name etc. Can't seem to find any in man pages of adduser|useradd|usermod, but I might be blind... [11:42] thoeger: chfn [11:42] rbasak, thanks!! [11:45] rbasak, worked a charm, thanks... Next, is there a way to restore the ubuntu Guest Session option to the users menu? [11:48] Also, I'm a little bit suspicious... Has there really been no updates the last ~30 hours? That doesn't seem usual at this point of a release cycle. [11:53] thoeger: check the state of your mirror [11:53] Ian_, that could be... How do I check that? [11:58] it's on launchpad [11:58] thoeger, there's a large update in the pipe , came down for me about an hr ago when I ran an update [11:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors [12:01] BluesKaj, thanks. Maybe the mirror might just be slow... [12:02] Ian_, thanks I'll check that [12:02] Everyone is very helpful and I'm learning a lot, thanks! [12:04] thoeger, just check your server in package management [12:05] BluesKaj: how does that let him know whether his server is uptodate? [12:06] Ian_, how can you tell that any server is up to date? you check it [12:07] yes, but the launchpad list shows how uptodate all servers are :) [12:09] wel Ian_ if you know how , then share it with us , I'm sure the info would be appreciated :) [12:12] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors [12:13] BluesKaj, Ian_ just did share that. [12:13] has a list with all mirrors [12:13] :p [12:13] exactly... Beat me to it by a second... [12:13] However, in Software center / software sources it just says "server for denmark, server for america" etc... Really is that it? There are several mirrors in each country... How to set/edit/see mirrors? [12:14] having to check launchpad to see which servers are "uptodate" shouldn't be necessary , the main servers in most countries are usually up to date with in minutes of each other [12:14] the UK one isn't [12:15] that list has the canonical Uk mirror as "archive.ubuntu.com" [12:15] so what is archive.uk.ubuntu.com? [12:16] jpds_: ? [12:16] that should be the mirror :o [12:16] also how can archive.ubuntu.com be 1 day behind? where are the other mirrors mirroring from? [12:16] a hidden one? [12:16] no [12:17] they sync from archive.u.c [12:17] then, is that entry simply a mistake and it means archive.uk.ubuntu.com? [12:17] but ali1234 canonical is a UK company [12:17] so maybe it's the same? [12:17]