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mhall119paultag: sure, your hair is too long and you drink too much00:01
cjohnstoni dont think you can drink too much00:04
paultagmhall119: :P00:05
paultagmhall119: I'm working on the whole lack of color thing, but here - http://i.imgur.com/gP5dx.png00:05
mhall119paultag: I'd advise having at least one thumbnail screenshot on the homepage00:09
paultagmhall119: ack'd - solid idea00:10
mhall119the 3 blocks at the top, for some reason, registered in my brain as inline google ads00:10
mhall119I glossed right over them00:11
paultagmhall119: you're the second person to say that00:11
paultagI wanted to make them ignorable 00:11
mhall119heh, so you know at least 2 crazy people00:11
paultagbecause they're static00:11
paultagI'll see if I can move that elsewhere00:11
mhall119I also think your headers should be statements or phrases, not questions00:13
mhall119but I have no solid reason for thinking that00:13
paultagmhall119: I'll be ditching them, moving them somewhere else00:13
mhall119I mean in the main content area00:13
paultagah, sure00:13
paultagyeah OK00:13
mhall119I'm actually okay with the color scheme00:14
mhall119I think the minimalism matches well with Fluxbox00:14
paultagyeah I was going for that00:15
paultagbut the lack of color was getting to me, I think00:15
mhall119maybe just one accent color, use it on the content headers or something?00:15
paultagI have the OSI logo in one page and the green pops nicely00:15
paultagI'll use some green and orange for some call-to-action buttons00:16
paultagalright got to run00:18
paultagthanks mhall119 00:18
mhall119np00:18
mhall119also, you don't drink enough00:19
bkerensa:(00:25
bkerensaloco.ubuntu.com is acting up00:25
bkerensapaultag: Do you know if something is up?00:25
paultagmhall119: I'm getting sober in my old age. Sucks00:51
paultagbkerensa: I have no idea. Perhaps cjohnston or mhall119 knows.00:51
* paultag gets back to accordion00:52
mhall119bkerensa: we've been having memory issues on the server, it's likely just apache acting up again00:58
bkerensamhall119: Gotta fine tune those child processes :)01:04
paultagtuning python is a waste :)01:04
paultagit's an order-of-magnitude thing01:06
paultaglike yeah, you're going to get it faster, but it's still going to do the same time-consuming things so it can be friendly01:06
paultagbut it's easier to maintain01:06
bkerensapaultag: They are using py for loco.ubuntu? Heh go PHP/MySQL my blog is hosted on a VPS and can take epic amounts of traffic ;)01:07
paultagbkerensa: yeah it's in django01:09
bkerensaoh jeez01:10
bkerensa=/01:10
paultagnot my choice :)01:10
bkerensapaultag: :)01:10
bkerensapaultag: Are LoCo's allowed to advocate for Ubuntu at political protests?01:11
bkerensa:)01:11
paultagpolitics should be kept as far away as we can keep them01:11
bkerensapaultag: I was thinking of bringing some CD's down to the Occupy encampment that has taken over Portland01:11
paultagbkerensa: we did the same in BOS, but not as a LoCo01:11
bkerensapaultag: Even if the LoCo is neutral and just giving out CD's?01:11
paultagbkerensa: as long as it's not seen as an official Ubuntu team advocating anything, I'm sure it's fine01:12
bkerensapaultag: Yeah but there is a fine line because last time I checked Ubuntu Team Lead's have their CoC follow them virtually everywhere01:12
bkerensaexample: I cannot use profanity or discuss NSFW stuff in a NSFW irc channel01:13
bkerensa=/01:13
mhall119bkerensa: python and django are just fine, something's wrong with the server01:13
bkerensamhall119: Ahh :)01:13
paultagbkerensa: as long as you do non-CoC stuff with non-ubuntu resources (email, etc) it's OK01:13
paultagbkerensa: but yeah - as much as I think F/OSS software is communism at it's best, we can't do too much politicking 01:14
* mhall119 does non-coc stuff all the time01:14
* paultag too01:14
bkerensapaultag: ahh ok :) well in example #ORLUG is a LUG channel for Oregonians yet the channel is heavy with adult language and I was told since I'm a lead and people identify me as such that I would have to keep my talk PG01:15
paultagyeah that's wise.01:15
bkerensapaultag: Eucalyptus is sponsoring our Oneiric shirts01:18
bkerensa:D01:18
bkerensacost just over $30001:18
paultag:)01:18
bkerensapaultag: Didnt have enough time to find a food and drink sponsor so its on members this time to buy their own food stuffs01:19
bkerensa:D01:19
paultag:)01:19
bkerensapaultag: Any idea whats happening on Wednesday? Is Canonical releasing a laptop or tablet?01:20
paultagbkerensa: I have no idea. I've been dropping Ubuntu roles, I'm fairly distant from the news-es01:21
bkerensahttp://thisisthecountdown.com/01:21
bkerensaoh01:21
bkerensapaultag: You are still council?01:21
paultagbkerensa: yep01:21
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dholbachgood morning07:10
bkerensadholbach: good morning07:13
dholbachhi bkerensa07:13
czajkowskiAloha 08:12
czajkowskiadded all remainging loco team feeds to the LD folks 09:36
head_victimI'm tempted to suggest a wishlist item of being able to run team blogs and planets off loco.u.c and do away with a team website altogether considering the luck I'm not getting with the loco drupal update RT>09:38
czajkowskihead_victim: I've told you re that RT it's out of our hands 09:42
czajkowskiit's canonical IS call 09:42
czajkowskiand it's not a priority I'm afraid 09:42
czajkowskiwhats the ticket number and I can poke again 09:42
head_victimYep, hence thinking I might have more luck on loco.u.c ;)09:42
head_victimI was thinking about it the other night, the loco.u.c has taken over most of the traditional needs of a website for a loco anyway.09:43
head_victimThe RT is 16894 but yeah, I understand priorities and stuff so I haven't been poking too hard lately.09:44
czajkowskihead_victim: not all teams can go on there though09:51
czajkowskionly approived teams09:52
head_victimloco.u.c or drupal?09:52
czajkowskion the LD 09:52
czajkowskiright status of the ticket has been triaged 09:53
nigelbhead_victim: I like that idea.10:21
nigelbhead_victim: Making loco directory a sort of home page for each loco.10:21
akgranerHi all  - Open Week starts the next week are there any sessions you all want to teach or would like to see on the schedule10:24
head_victimnigelb: I actually sat down and listed the things we use a webpage for and really the only things missing from loco.u.c is a "news" page, which we're currently using a drupal instance for and a planet page.10:26
nigelbhead_victim: That's an interesting requirement.10:31
head_victimnigelb: which one, the news/story page or the planet?10:32
nigelbhead_victim: both10:35
head_victimWould make it easier to add team feeds to the front page10:35
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czajkowskihead_victim: I've poked re the ticket USA are on hols today so will chase up again tomorrow for you ok10:40
head_victimczajkowski: no dramas, if it comes back "wont fix" at least we'd know to start looking elsewhere.10:40
head_victimThanks heaps, didn't mean to dump that on you but good to see I've peaked nigelb's interest a little with the other idea.10:41
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czajkowskihead_victim: np I will chase up on things I don't mind 10:42
head_victimI guess I'm just never sure how hard to press them for things like that. I completely understand it's not a high priority but then again they did give a timeframe so I just get unsure10:42
czajkowskinnope tis cool10:51
czajkowskiwe usually handle it after some time and chase up on it 10:52
czajkowskimakes it easier than 142 people from teams poking IS 10:52
czajkowskipoke us and we poke them 10:52
czajkowskiI do it weekly usually 10:52
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head_victimczajkowski: cheers :)10:58
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czajkowskihead_victim: np any time 11:03
czajkowskiwhat we're here for 11:03
head_victimnigelb: is it worth filing a wish list bug against loco.u.c for discussion on the news stories and planet idea?11:27
nigelbhead_victim: I think its better to bring it up to mhall119 and cjohnston to talk about at UDS11:28
nigelbIts a far bigger change than can be discussed in a bug :)11:28
head_victimNo worries :) I'll try to collar one of them when I see them about next.11:28
mhall119head_victim: we're slowing adding the functionality to add per-team feeds to LD11:52
head_victimmhall119: to the one feed though right?11:52
mhall119head_victim: the plan is to eventually have per-team aggregation of feeds11:52
mhall119in addition to the front-page aggregation11:53
head_victimmhall119: ah k cool. So that would cover the planet idea. Any future plans to allow news/stories to be put on the site itself per team? I'm not trying to hassle just seeing what's already int he works 11:53
mhall119head_victim: not at this time, no11:54
mhall119just aggregation11:54
head_victimCool, that might still work enough anyway.12:07
czajkowskihead_victim: again remember the blog posts are only there if they are an offical loco12:09
czajkowskiand is manually doe 12:09
czajkowski*done at present 12:09
czajkowskiI'd love w a way for a form to be filled in and mailed me as I dont always think of checking a wiki page tbh 12:10
head_victimczajkowski: just trying to think outside the box a little and see if it would benefit others at the same time. No expectations, just thinking really.12:11
czajkowskihead_victim: yup tis good 12:11
mhall119czajkowski: I'm going to add a form for team admins to add feeds for their team, then just a flag for the LC to check to promote it to front page13:13
czajkowskiyeah even it just gets to our list13:13
czajkowskiI can moderate it 13:14
czajkowskibut honstly going to a wiki is just not optimal atma is'a  slwo process if we get lots more teams adding feeds it's gonna be crazy 13:14
mhall119czajkowski: on an unrelated note, I'm glad your new job is going well13:14
YoBoYand making it like the normal planet with a file to modify and a merge proposal ?13:15
mhall119YoBoY: no13:15
mhall119YoBoY: it's all in the database, so it'll be web forms13:15
czajkowskimhall119: thanks 13:15
czajkowskimhall119: very different from what I've done before 13:15
YoBoYmake sense13:15
czajkowskiand yet I still get to do testing and documentation 13:15
mhall119czajkowski: learning new things is fun13:15
czajkowskibut also wire frames13:15
czajkowskiclient reviews of specs13:15
czajkowskibut it's all about advertising and apps and mobile stuff 13:16
czajkowskikinda cool 13:16
mhall119whatever happened with Apple suing them?13:16
mhall119or is that still ongoing?13:16
czajkowskiwating to see I guess 13:34
czajkowskilotta companies in same boat 13:35
czajkowski!lococouncil13:38
ubot4lococouncil is The Loco Council is itnet7, czajkowski, paultag, huats, leogg, popey - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com13:38
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