[00:01] <mhall119> paultag: sure, your hair is too long and you drink too much
[00:04] <cjohnston> i dont think you can drink too much
[00:05] <paultag> mhall119: :P
[00:05] <paultag> mhall119: I'm working on the whole lack of color thing, but here - http://i.imgur.com/gP5dx.png
[00:09] <mhall119> paultag: I'd advise having at least one thumbnail screenshot on the homepage
[00:10] <paultag> mhall119: ack'd - solid idea
[00:10] <mhall119> the 3 blocks at the top, for some reason, registered in my brain as inline google ads
[00:11] <mhall119> I glossed right over them
[00:11] <paultag> mhall119: you're the second person to say that
[00:11] <paultag> I wanted to make them ignorable 
[00:11] <mhall119> heh, so you know at least 2 crazy people
[00:11] <paultag> because they're static
[00:11] <paultag> I'll see if I can move that elsewhere
[00:13] <mhall119> I also think your headers should be statements or phrases, not questions
[00:13] <mhall119> but I have no solid reason for thinking that
[00:13] <paultag> mhall119: I'll be ditching them, moving them somewhere else
[00:13] <mhall119> I mean in the main content area
[00:13] <paultag> ah, sure
[00:13] <paultag> yeah OK
[00:14] <mhall119> I'm actually okay with the color scheme
[00:14] <mhall119> I think the minimalism matches well with Fluxbox
[00:15] <paultag> yeah I was going for that
[00:15] <paultag> but the lack of color was getting to me, I think
[00:15] <mhall119> maybe just one accent color, use it on the content headers or something?
[00:15] <paultag> I have the OSI logo in one page and the green pops nicely
[00:16] <paultag> I'll use some green and orange for some call-to-action buttons
[00:18] <paultag> alright got to run
[00:18] <paultag> thanks mhall119 
[00:18] <mhall119> np
[00:19] <mhall119> also, you don't drink enough
[00:25] <bkerensa> :(
[00:25] <bkerensa> loco.ubuntu.com is acting up
[00:25] <bkerensa> paultag: Do you know if something is up?
[00:51] <paultag> mhall119: I'm getting sober in my old age. Sucks
[00:51] <paultag> bkerensa: I have no idea. Perhaps cjohnston or mhall119 knows.
[00:52]  * paultag gets back to accordion
[00:58] <mhall119> bkerensa: we've been having memory issues on the server, it's likely just apache acting up again
[01:04] <bkerensa> mhall119: Gotta fine tune those child processes :)
[01:04] <paultag> tuning python is a waste :)
[01:06] <paultag> it's an order-of-magnitude thing
[01:06] <paultag> like yeah, you're going to get it faster, but it's still going to do the same time-consuming things so it can be friendly
[01:06] <paultag> but it's easier to maintain
[01:07] <bkerensa> paultag: They are using py for loco.ubuntu? Heh go PHP/MySQL my blog is hosted on a VPS and can take epic amounts of traffic ;)
[01:09] <paultag> bkerensa: yeah it's in django
[01:10] <bkerensa> oh jeez
[01:10] <bkerensa> =/
[01:10] <paultag> not my choice :)
[01:10] <bkerensa> paultag: :)
[01:11] <bkerensa> paultag: Are LoCo's allowed to advocate for Ubuntu at political protests?
[01:11] <bkerensa> :)
[01:11] <paultag> politics should be kept as far away as we can keep them
[01:11] <bkerensa> paultag: I was thinking of bringing some CD's down to the Occupy encampment that has taken over Portland
[01:11] <paultag> bkerensa: we did the same in BOS, but not as a LoCo
[01:11] <bkerensa> paultag: Even if the LoCo is neutral and just giving out CD's?
[01:12] <paultag> bkerensa: as long as it's not seen as an official Ubuntu team advocating anything, I'm sure it's fine
[01:12] <bkerensa> paultag: Yeah but there is a fine line because last time I checked Ubuntu Team Lead's have their CoC follow them virtually everywhere
[01:13] <bkerensa> example: I cannot use profanity or discuss NSFW stuff in a NSFW irc channel
[01:13] <bkerensa> =/
[01:13] <mhall119> bkerensa: python and django are just fine, something's wrong with the server
[01:13] <bkerensa> mhall119: Ahh :)
[01:13] <paultag> bkerensa: as long as you do non-CoC stuff with non-ubuntu resources (email, etc) it's OK
[01:14] <paultag> bkerensa: but yeah - as much as I think F/OSS software is communism at it's best, we can't do too much politicking 
[01:14]  * mhall119 does non-coc stuff all the time
[01:14]  * paultag too
[01:15] <bkerensa> paultag: ahh ok :) well in example #ORLUG is a LUG channel for Oregonians yet the channel is heavy with adult language and I was told since I'm a lead and people identify me as such that I would have to keep my talk PG
[01:15] <paultag> yeah that's wise.
[01:18] <bkerensa> paultag: Eucalyptus is sponsoring our Oneiric shirts
[01:18] <bkerensa> :D
[01:18] <bkerensa> cost just over $300
[01:18] <paultag> :)
[01:19] <bkerensa> paultag: Didnt have enough time to find a food and drink sponsor so its on members this time to buy their own food stuffs
[01:19] <bkerensa> :D
[01:19] <paultag> :)
[01:20] <bkerensa> paultag: Any idea whats happening on Wednesday? Is Canonical releasing a laptop or tablet?
[01:21] <paultag> bkerensa: I have no idea. I've been dropping Ubuntu roles, I'm fairly distant from the news-es
[01:21] <bkerensa> http://thisisthecountdown.com/
[01:21] <bkerensa> oh
[01:21] <bkerensa> paultag: You are still council?
[01:21] <paultag> bkerensa: yep
[07:10] <dholbach> good morning
[07:13] <bkerensa> dholbach: good morning
[07:13] <dholbach> hi bkerensa
[08:12] <czajkowski> Aloha 
[09:36] <czajkowski> added all remainging loco team feeds to the LD folks 
[09:38] <head_victim> I'm tempted to suggest a wishlist item of being able to run team blogs and planets off loco.u.c and do away with a team website altogether considering the luck I'm not getting with the loco drupal update RT>
[09:42] <czajkowski> head_victim: I've told you re that RT it's out of our hands 
[09:42] <czajkowski> it's canonical IS call 
[09:42] <czajkowski> and it's not a priority I'm afraid 
[09:42] <czajkowski> whats the ticket number and I can poke again 
[09:42] <head_victim> Yep, hence thinking I might have more luck on loco.u.c ;)
[09:43] <head_victim> I was thinking about it the other night, the loco.u.c has taken over most of the traditional needs of a website for a loco anyway.
[09:44] <head_victim> The RT is 16894 but yeah, I understand priorities and stuff so I haven't been poking too hard lately.
[09:51] <czajkowski> head_victim: not all teams can go on there though
[09:52] <czajkowski> only approived teams
[09:52] <head_victim> loco.u.c or drupal?
[09:52] <czajkowski> on the LD 
[09:53] <czajkowski> right status of the ticket has been triaged 
[10:21] <nigelb> head_victim: I like that idea.
[10:21] <nigelb> head_victim: Making loco directory a sort of home page for each loco.
[10:24] <akgraner> Hi all  - Open Week starts the next week are there any sessions you all want to teach or would like to see on the schedule
[10:26] <head_victim> nigelb: I actually sat down and listed the things we use a webpage for and really the only things missing from loco.u.c is a "news" page, which we're currently using a drupal instance for and a planet page.
[10:31] <nigelb> head_victim: That's an interesting requirement.
[10:32] <head_victim> nigelb: which one, the news/story page or the planet?
[10:35] <nigelb> head_victim: both
[10:35] <head_victim> Would make it easier to add team feeds to the front page
[10:40] <czajkowski> head_victim: I've poked re the ticket USA are on hols today so will chase up again tomorrow for you ok
[10:40] <head_victim> czajkowski: no dramas, if it comes back "wont fix" at least we'd know to start looking elsewhere.
[10:41] <head_victim> Thanks heaps, didn't mean to dump that on you but good to see I've peaked nigelb's interest a little with the other idea.
[10:42] <czajkowski> head_victim: np I will chase up on things I don't mind 
[10:42] <head_victim> I guess I'm just never sure how hard to press them for things like that. I completely understand it's not a high priority but then again they did give a timeframe so I just get unsure
[10:51] <czajkowski> nnope tis cool
[10:52] <czajkowski> we usually handle it after some time and chase up on it 
[10:52] <czajkowski> makes it easier than 142 people from teams poking IS 
[10:52] <czajkowski> poke us and we poke them 
[10:52] <czajkowski> I do it weekly usually 
[10:58] <head_victim> czajkowski: cheers :)
[11:03] <czajkowski> head_victim: np any time 
[11:03] <czajkowski> what we're here for 
[11:27] <head_victim> nigelb: is it worth filing a wish list bug against loco.u.c for discussion on the news stories and planet idea?
[11:28] <nigelb> head_victim: I think its better to bring it up to mhall119 and cjohnston to talk about at UDS
[11:28] <nigelb> Its a far bigger change than can be discussed in a bug :)
[11:28] <head_victim> No worries :) I'll try to collar one of them when I see them about next.
[11:52] <mhall119> head_victim: we're slowing adding the functionality to add per-team feeds to LD
[11:52] <head_victim> mhall119: to the one feed though right?
[11:52] <mhall119> head_victim: the plan is to eventually have per-team aggregation of feeds
[11:53] <mhall119> in addition to the front-page aggregation
[11:53] <head_victim> mhall119: ah k cool. So that would cover the planet idea. Any future plans to allow news/stories to be put on the site itself per team? I'm not trying to hassle just seeing what's already int he works 
[11:54] <mhall119> head_victim: not at this time, no
[11:54] <mhall119> just aggregation
[12:07] <head_victim> Cool, that might still work enough anyway.
[12:09] <czajkowski> head_victim: again remember the blog posts are only there if they are an offical loco
[12:09] <czajkowski> and is manually doe 
[12:09] <czajkowski> *done at present 
[12:10] <czajkowski> I'd love w a way for a form to be filled in and mailed me as I dont always think of checking a wiki page tbh 
[12:11] <head_victim> czajkowski: just trying to think outside the box a little and see if it would benefit others at the same time. No expectations, just thinking really.
[12:11] <czajkowski> head_victim: yup tis good 
[13:13] <mhall119> czajkowski: I'm going to add a form for team admins to add feeds for their team, then just a flag for the LC to check to promote it to front page
[13:13] <czajkowski> yeah even it just gets to our list
[13:14] <czajkowski> I can moderate it 
[13:14] <czajkowski> but honstly going to a wiki is just not optimal atma is'a  slwo process if we get lots more teams adding feeds it's gonna be crazy 
[13:14] <mhall119> czajkowski: on an unrelated note, I'm glad your new job is going well
[13:15] <YoBoY> and making it like the normal planet with a file to modify and a merge proposal ?
[13:15] <mhall119> YoBoY: no
[13:15] <mhall119> YoBoY: it's all in the database, so it'll be web forms
[13:15] <czajkowski> mhall119: thanks 
[13:15] <czajkowski> mhall119: very different from what I've done before 
[13:15] <YoBoY> make sense
[13:15] <czajkowski> and yet I still get to do testing and documentation 
[13:15] <mhall119> czajkowski: learning new things is fun
[13:15] <czajkowski> but also wire frames
[13:15] <czajkowski> client reviews of specs
[13:16] <czajkowski> but it's all about advertising and apps and mobile stuff 
[13:16] <czajkowski> kinda cool 
[13:16] <mhall119> whatever happened with Apple suing them?
[13:16] <mhall119> or is that still ongoing?
[13:34] <czajkowski> wating to see I guess 
[13:35] <czajkowski> lotta companies in same boat 
[13:38] <czajkowski> !lococouncil
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