[00:22] <bkerensa> gah
[00:22] <bkerensa> :( loco.ubuntu.com is not letting me add a venue
[01:57] <Mark_> hey
[01:58] <Faqtotum> ya
[01:59] <pleia2> woo, my dinner plans were canceled so I am here for the meeting
[01:59] <pleia2> Darkwing: you around to chair?
[02:01] <philipballew> here!
[02:01] <jyo> Hooray less splendid dinner entertainment!
[02:02] <pleia2> jyo: hehe
[02:02] <pleia2> actually meant I could stay at the social longer, where they had free beer and comcastinis ;)
[02:02] <eps> "here" (as opposed to "there" as I was during the past two meetings)
[02:04] <Faqtotum> meeting? ok...
[02:04] <Mark_> :)
[02:05] <eps> No, we're all standing around waiting for new smartphones. Of course there's a meeting!
[02:05] <pleia2> ok, well it's 5 after so I guess I'll chair
[02:05] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[02:05] <pleia2> Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11October09
[02:06] <Faqtotum> new smartphones running ubuntu would be nice
[02:06] <pleia2> [TOPIC] California Team Leadership Elections
[02:06] <Mark_> anyone else here play bf3?
[02:06] <philipballew> we have 2 already
[02:06] <pleia2> so Darkwing posted this late last month: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-September/001819.html
[02:07] <pleia2> the leadership terms of our current leaders expire this month, so we're looking for more folks to step up and help with leadership
[02:08] <pleia2> so mostly this is just a reminder :)
[02:08] <pleia2> [TOPIC] Oneiric Release. Parties anyone?
[02:08] <philipballew> we need a Ubuntu cake if there is a party
[02:09] <Faqtotum> will there be live ocelots?
[02:09] <pleia2> the release of 11.10 is on Thursday and so far we don't have any parties registered in the loco directory or announced anywhere
[02:09] <Mark_> yes
[02:09] <pleia2> philipballew: do you have a venue?
[02:10] <philipballew> pleia2, I can probably convince Darkwing to do a Friday night release party at the place we do our ubuntu hours at. so yes. there is a very good likelyhood of a party
[02:10] <pleia2> philipballew: cool :)
[02:10] <philipballew> but I would not do a weekday myself
[02:10] <philipballew> hope thats cool with everyone
[02:10] <pleia2> I can't help with anything in San Francisco this week because I'm out of town (in Philadelphia right now, it's after 10PM!)
[02:11] <pleia2> instead I'm giving an 11.10 talk at a lug out here, and going to the philly release party ;)
[02:11] <eps> Why is there a counter that says release in 8 days?
[02:12] <philipballew> nice pleia2 ! you give good talks
[02:12] <pleia2> eps: what counter? this is the official one: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown
[02:12] <philipballew> its this Thursday?
[02:12] <pleia2> philipballew: yep
[02:13] <eps> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/OneiricRelease
[02:13] <pleia2> eps: oh I see (was taking a while to load, bad wifi...)
[02:13] <philipballew> wow, time come by fast. They pushed it out faster this year I think
[02:13] <pleia2> lookethanks, I'll submit a bug report
[02:15] <philipballew> I updated to 11.10 yesterday. unity works better.
[02:15] <philipballew> though all the hacks I did to it, now have to be re-done
[02:15] <pleia2> anyone else have anything to add about release parties or release events?
[02:15] <eps> We should have some. :-)
[02:16] <Faqtotum> i still need to update to 11.04
[02:16] <pleia2> eps: can you lead up something in the bay area?
[02:17] <eps> Do we have anyone else?
[02:17] <pleia2> grantbow and I usually do stuff, but we're both out of town, so we're a bit short on people to organize
[02:17] <Faqtotum> i second the motion to draft eps for the release party leadership
[02:17] <philipballew> If there is any meeting in ca, it would need to be done asap so a email can get put out
[02:18] <pleia2> philipballew: agreed
[02:18] <eps> I don't think I have enough lead time to put something together *and* get the word out.
[02:18] <philipballew> we can always make it in 2 weeks
[02:19] <pleia2> yeah, we can do something later in the month
[02:19] <philipballew> say that we pushed it out later so everyone could upgrade first
[02:19] <Faqtotum> it doesn't have to be _on_ release day
[02:19] <pleia2> we've done installfests a couple weeks after release before
[02:19] <eps> And that does give time to replicate discs, etc.
[02:19] <philipballew> a thursday party would not be the best attendance probably. but i dont know much
[02:20] <Darkwing> Wow. Sorry guys
[02:20] <Darkwing> Got caught up with the kids.
[02:20] <pleia2> well I'll send a follow-up email to the list reminding people that they can plan things later out of they're busy this week
[02:20] <pleia2> hey Darkwing
[02:21] <pleia2> [TOPIC] Announcements, etc
[02:21] <pleia2> anyone else have anything before we wrap up?
[02:23] <eps> Ubuntu Hours, perhaps?
[02:24] <pleia2> no SF ubuntu hour this month (since I'm traveling so much, and no one else has planned one)
[02:24] <pleia2> Darkwing, philipballew, are the San Diego ubuntu hours going to keep happening?
[02:24] <Darkwing> Are
[02:24] <Darkwing> Yes rather.
[02:24] <Darkwing> We are scheduled for twice a month. First and third tuesdays
[02:26] <pleia2> are there plans to add an organizer to each one to make sure that even if one person cancels, the hour still happens or an announcement is made?
[02:26] <philipballew> Darkwing, is doing a good thing with them. We have a ubuntu user who owns the coffee shop and its in the downtown area so many people can come
[02:26] <pleia2> unfortunately if anyone showed up last time kdub had to leave halfway through so they wouldn't have found anyone there, which reflects poorly on the team :\
[02:27] <Darkwing> Oh, Libertopia is a no go. I can't afford to foot the bill and bad timing with being kicked out of my apt for termite tenting.
[02:27] <pleia2> can you remove it from the loco directory and make an announcement?
[02:27] <Darkwing> Yup.
[02:28] <philipballew> yeah, i'm gonna do some hour advertising in the next few weeks
[02:29] <pleia2> philipballew: can you commit to attending?
[02:30] <philipballew> Yes, I come every time, except I had a history test that next day so I had to study. I will commit, do not worry.
[02:30] <philipballew> also for the hour, I'm gonna need some 11.10 cd's
[02:30] <pleia2> ok, great :)
[02:30] <pleia2> we've already put in our request for them, hopefully they'll get here before I leave for DUS
[02:30] <pleia2> UDS
[02:30] <bkerensa> pleia2:
[02:30] <bkerensa> pleia2: Got a question you might be able to help with :D
[02:31] <pleia2> bkerensa: we're just wrapping up a meeting, can it wait a couple minutes?
[02:31] <bkerensa> oh sure (my bad)
[02:31] <philipballew> ok, you can send them to me or Darkwing , doesnt matter
[02:31] <pleia2> I'll announce it when I receive them, so you guys can work out who I should ship them to :)
[02:32] <philipballew> sounds good with me
[02:32] <pleia2> ok, anything else before we finish?
[02:34] <pleia2> alright, thanks everyone :)
[02:34] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[02:35] <pleia2> bkerensa: what's up?
[02:35] <bkerensa> pleia2: I'm trying to block Bittorrent on a network I maintain.... We got a DMCA forward from Comcast/Fox
[02:35] <bkerensa> :)
[02:35] <bkerensa> Do you think blocking 1024-65534 will work?
[02:35]  * philipballew high fives bkerensa !!!
[02:36] <pleia2> bkerensa: I'm really not familiar with how bittorrent works
[02:36] <bkerensa> hi philipballew :)
[02:36] <pleia2> when we restrict networks we restrict everything and just allow things ;)
[02:36] <bkerensa> pleia2: Oh ok :) well it uses random high ports
[02:36] <philipballew> you can do things like block download of .torrent files I know and
[02:37] <philipballew> stuff
[02:37] <jyo> Set up deep packet inspection? :P
[02:37] <pleia2> bkerensa: yeah, it'll probably be fine, you may need to poke some holes to let out some high port using services if it comes up (mysql is in that range, for instance)
[02:37] <bkerensa> pleia2: Indeed a good idea ( I do the same on my box) but this is a hotel wifi so there are a lot of legit things I don't wanna block because it just means lots of afterall calls for me
[02:37] <bkerensa> pleia2: kk
[02:37] <pleia2> philipballew: that only solves part of the problem and requires a whole content filtering system to be set up :\
[02:38] <bkerensa> pleia2: I was only going to block it for .30 to .254 and all our office and trusted systems use < .30
[02:38] <pleia2> bkerensa: *nod*
[02:38] <bkerensa> Btw
[02:38] <bkerensa> Got a call on Saturday to troubleshoot for a guest
[02:38] <bkerensa> :(
[02:38] <bkerensa> he was running AOL 5.0
[02:38] <pleia2> that's still a thing?
[02:39] <bkerensa> uhh LOL I had no idea
[02:39] <bkerensa> I thought they shut it down and AOL just had sites
[02:39] <pleia2> yeah, crazy
[02:39] <bkerensa> I was like Waaa waa wee waaa =o
[02:39] <pleia2> hehe
[02:40] <pleia2> did you get your loco directory situation sorted?
[02:41] <philipballew> my 85 year old grandma is on aol 8.0
[02:42] <pleia2> brb, messing with internets
[02:44] <bkerensa> pleia2: Yep
[05:05] <Mark__> :p
[05:20] <MarkDude> Thugnificent, wins for best nick in channel, imho
[05:21] <Thugnificent> MarkDude: Hey, it's Algo
[05:21] <MarkDude> Hello Algo
[06:58] <bkerensa> wow
[06:59] <bkerensa> MarkDude: PLUG's mailing list just had a epic battle
[06:59] <bkerensa> =o
[07:00] <MarkDude> Rms?
[07:00] <MarkDude> Or Mark S?
[07:03] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Worse
[07:03] <bkerensa> :(
[07:03] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Ill PM
[20:42] <kdub> quiet today
[20:46] <bkerensa> indeed
[21:55] <nhaines> shh
[21:56] <pleia2> the documentation for ubuntu cloud stuff is pretty awful :(
[21:57] <pleia2> I have spent 40 minutes trying to sort it out, so many broken links, half explanations and buzzwords
[21:57] <bkerensa> Women in Technology rock
[21:57] <pleia2> tempted to make my slide on the subject say "cloud.ubuntu.com, good luck"
[21:58] <bkerensa> just saying... Had a awesome experience with a Amazon AWS woman :)
[22:01] <nhaines> ha
[22:02] <nhaines> pleia2: technical writing is hard work and also boring.
[22:05] <pleia2> nhaines: indeed
[22:06] <pleia2> I think mostly they don't realize they are communicating poorly
[22:14] <MarkDude> So Chris was at an OSCON party, and just kept thinking
[22:14] <MarkDude> its after 9pm, lets not talk about the cloud- that is daytime stuff- when my brain is more up for it
[22:15] <MarkDude> pleia2, on that slide- just have a pic of jono with a confused look- I have a few for you
[22:15] <MarkDude> :D
[22:16] <nhaines> pleia2: usually I got tasked with technical writing because I ended up good at it.  Which was flattering but it was still boring.  :)
[22:16]  * MarkDude has found that avoiding technical stuff REALLY helps avoid tech writing
[22:20] <jbermudes> that, or practicing your explanations on 5 year olds :P
[22:20] <nhaines> http://xkcd.com/722/
[22:24] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Speaking of Cloud.... I'm deploying one right now
[22:24] <bkerensa> ;)
[22:25] <MarkDude> Most computer users are not as smart as most 5 year olds I know
[22:27] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Indeed.
[22:31] <MarkDude> Yay, ML admin duties
[22:32] <MarkDude> glad I cleared out 20+ spam messages
[22:32] <MarkDude> not one was real