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pvl1hello00:33
pvl1woa kool never heard of pacs00:35
rmg51next meeting is Sat. the 15th00:40
pvl1where at00:50
rmg51http://pacsnet.org/00:58
rmg51if your anywhere near Willow Grove :-D00:59
pvl1i am actually01:01
pvl1i wish i could find some like computer related work in the area01:02
rmg51the Linux Sig meets at 1 pm01:02
pvl1sig? and u mean for pacsnet?01:03
rmg51special interest group01:04
rmg51there are a bunch of different meetings throughout the day01:04
rmg51starting at 8 am01:04
pvl1ah ok, but i may be busy working, maybe not, idk yet. but like, whats the point of these groups?01:05
rmg51learn, contribute01:06
rmg51http://pacsnet.org/01:07
pvl1i shall investigate01:07
pvl1wanna tell me where i can get a job working with computers now?01:07
rmg51that will give you an idea of what is happening during the day01:07
InHisNameyou, me and 19,998 others are all looking for job in IT, computers or whatever, pvl101:21
pvl1maybe we should start our own company then!!01:23
InHisNameCan't call ourselves "geek squad" that's taken already.01:23
pvl1squadgeek01:30
InHisNameHmm, not quite the same pizzaz, buuut....03:36
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rmg51Morning09:51
JonathanDMorning.10:03
rmg510/10:14
JonathanDhey rmg5110:15
rmg51hey JonathanD10:16
JonathanDWhats up?10:17
rmg51just us10:20
rmg51otherwise the same old thing10:20
rmg51getting ready for work and reading the morning paper10:20
JonathanDyup10:22
InHisNamegetting kids ready for school bus11:48
teddy-dbearmorning12:02
InHisNameNow gone to school and back to computer and re-arranging computer room in basement.13:05
JonathanDHowdy MutantTurkey13:07
MutantTurkeyhey man13:07
MutantTurkeywhat's up?13:07
JonathanDNothing much.13:07
MutantTurkeydoode I am freaking out, my new laptop is broken :|13:07
InHisNamedrunken rage ? MutantTurkey13:08
MutantTurkeyno drunken rage13:11
MutantTurkeyI don't do drunken rages, I am not yet 2113:11
MutantTurkeywhat the hell lenovo, it's a 1200 dollar laptop. it shouldn't break in 3 weeks13:13
JonathanD:(13:14
JonathanDWhats wrong with it?13:14
MutantTurkeythe screen/lid is coming apart13:18
JonathanDnow thats just fail.13:18
MutantTurkeylet me upload pics h/o13:19
jedijfkarma, it got broken at that protest thingy13:20
MutantTurkeyjedijf: it didn't even leave the bag13:21
MutantTurkeyit broke when I opened the lit13:21
jedijfbut regardless, that sucks *bigtime*13:22
MutantTurkeyit just cracked13:22
MutantTurkeyI wasn't applying ridiculous pressure on it13:22
MutantTurkeyhttp://imgur.com/nRWa5,Ycm8G#113:22
MutantTurkeyhttp://imgur.com/nRWa5,Ycm8G#013:22
MutantTurkeysee pictures13:22
MutantTurkeyjedijf: ^13:23
jedijfthat doesn't look like a breadk, looks more like it's coming apart whre it's supposed to if you need to replace lcd13:24
jedijfreshoot that 0 one, the 1 one looks like bezel separating13:24
MutantTurkeythats wha tI thought at one13:25
MutantTurkeythats wha tI thought at first13:25
MutantTurkeybut actually the way to replace the lcd is different13:25
MutantTurkeyI , i looked at the driections13:25
MutantTurkeysorry, konversation acting up.13:26
MutantTurkeyAt first I thought that was it, I read the hardware manual and it isn't how you replac ethe screen13:26
jedijfis there any crack, which wasn't part of their design?13:27
jedijfdid you try 'snapping' it back in place?13:27
MutantTurkeynope13:27
MutantTurkeyI don't want to risk it.13:27
MutantTurkeybecause its only one side13:28
jedijfhaha ok, it's new13:30
MutantTurkeyany ideas13:30
MutantTurkeyi posted on the lenovo forums13:30
jedijfit seems that the bezel (albeit an odd spot) just opened....usually bezel opening feels like you're going to break it13:30
jedijfi would snap it back, but it's not mine, and most of my equipment looks like that anyway13:31
jedijfso what's in that part of the plastic? speakers?13:31
MutantTurkey nothing13:32
jedijfwebcam?13:33
MutantTurkeymaybe acess to the webcam13:33
MutantTurkeyyes13:33
MutantTurkeythats it13:33
jedijfso prolly webcam and mic13:33
jedijfsnap it back13:33
MutantTurkeymics at bottom13:33
MutantTurkeyby keys13:33
MutantTurkeyit won't snap back13:34
MutantTurkeynothing to snap into.13:34
MutantTurkeyit's sort of just wobbling there13:34
jedijfstart at edge where it's still attached and ziplock baggy it13:34
MutantTurkey?13:34
jedijfapply front and back pressure where it's still attached, and slide that pressure along the opening, resealing the bezel13:35
jedijflike the children do, when they assemble it13:36
MobileTurkeyjedijf: reading forums. known issue = covered under warranty = i can send back13:40
jedijfdo that13:45
MobileTurkeywill do13:47
MobileTurkeyclass is up, be back later13:47
InHisNameSo he's gonna have to send it back.  Too bad there wasn't an exchange place for Lenovo s locally.14:17
InHisNameBoy ! you Unity haters have it easy !   Didja see the new Win8 layout yet ?   Whew !   I think I like unity much better than that !  Took me 40 minutes of reading on how to shutdown.  Ugggh.14:19
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musetuxGreetings All! My name is Tony, I registered for the Release party on the 13th, and just wanted to take a second and introduce myself. ive been an Ubuntu user since17:31
musetux7.04, and this is the first time I'm meeting local users. I look forward to meeting some of you the 13th and becoming more active in the Ubuntu community in the future.17:31
MutantTurkeyXhey17:32
MutantTurkeyXmusetux: it's much more fun when you meet all these, uh characters17:32
musetuxIm pretty Stoked! Im kinda tired of being the one explaining Linux, OpenSource, Ubuntu, etc17:33
MutantTurkeyXyeah17:33
MutantTurkeyXit is nice to be among fellow people who understand what you are talking about xD17:33
musetuxswaping ideas, and learning from other users is how i seem to learn the fastest. plus the overall community concept is refreshing theses days.17:37
beta0x64_Am I the only one that has a hard time making pretty looking buttons in GIMP? :(17:37
beta0x64_read: I suck at graphic design.17:38
knightzerobeta0x64_: You are not alone.17:38
beta0x64_knightzero: This makes web design an uphill battle17:38
* beta0x64_ slaps beta0x6417:38
MutantTurkeyXdude, pretty buttons are not the key to good design...17:39
beta0x64_They sure bring it together.17:39
MutantTurkeyXyou need FLASHING scrolling marquee's following the mouse..17:39
MutantTurkeyXright?17:39
MutantTurkeyXand blinking backgrounds17:39
beta0x64_I use PHP and Blueprint CSS17:39
beta0x64_oh snap you're right. that'll totally spruce up my portfolio17:39
MutantTurkeyXindeed17:39
knightzeroMutantTurkeyX: content creation and seisures go hand in hand.17:40
MutantTurkeyXhehe17:40
beta0x64_I'm overwhelmed.17:40
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beta0x64_I don't know if I should go with something like apache tomcat or django or cakephp or fuck it and go embedded systems17:40
beta0x64_sorry language17:40
MobileTurkeyI hate CMS's... they are trolls17:41
beta0x64_I need to learn them for $$$17:41
MobileTurkeybut I don't know much abut django17:41
musetuxIm just starting Django, it's pretty sweet!17:41
teddy-dbearno potty mouth around the teddy bear :-/17:41
beta0x64_yes.17:42
beta0x64_I am a CS student and a bit overwhelmed at what I should do17:42
beta0x64_I've been programming for years, but I have commitment issues17:42
MobileTurkeyI am a education student, but i should be a programming student17:42
beta0x64_what do :(17:42
MobileTurkeywhat do?17:43
beta0x64_what do I do?17:43
MobileTurkeyquit your job, move to alaska, profit.17:44
musetuxMy 2 cents: find the language you find most comfortable with and master it, make it you B!$@h. then spreadout from there17:45
MobileTurkeylearn C17:47
MobileTurkeyalways learn C17:47
MobileTurkeyyou can learn wishy washy languages like python and ruby later, but you should understand *how* and *why* certain things operate17:47
MobileTurkeyas an exersize17:48
knightzeroMobileTurkey: how different is C++ from C - C++ is the next programming course I have in my roster this year, just wondering how useful it will be.17:48
MobileTurkeyC++ is usefuly17:49
MobileTurkeybut also much more complicated imho17:49
beta0x64_fudge17:49
MobileTurkeyit's easy to start with though17:49
MobileTurkeyit just has many entities17:50
MobileTurkeyhttp://harm.cat-v.org/17:50
MobileTurkeywhoops17:50
MobileTurkeyhttp://harmful.cat-v.org17:50
MobileTurkeyhas some quotes about C++17:50
knightzeroThe dean of my program scholded me for taking a Visual Basic course to start out....not that they offered me anything else on the first day.17:50
MobileTurkeythere ya go: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/17:51
MobileTurkeyVB is uh...17:51
MobileTurkeylol17:51
knightzeroyeah, that's what I've heard from just about everyone else.17:51
MobileTurkeyC++, it's like nailing legs on an dog to make an octopus17:51
knightzeroI'm not sure whether to be excited or frightened by some of these statements.17:52
MobileTurkeyI dunno17:53
MobileTurkey I have to work with C++ and i find it to be less concise and more confusing.17:54
MobileTurkeythere are nice tutorials on the internet though17:54
jedijfmusetux: welcome, can't wait to meet you at the release party18:02
jedijfbeta0x64: i liked the 'comfort' statement, it's more about the driver than the vehicle18:05
TheEvilPhoenixi wish i could get away to get to the release party, but alas College takes priority >.>18:06
TheEvilPhoenixs/the/a/18:06
jedijfTheEvilPhoenix: you can have your own at college!18:06
jedijfany day18:06
jedijfjust announce it18:06
MutantTurkeyi did post linux signs18:06
MutantTurkeybut no one answerd :[18:07
MutantTurkeyat mccc18:07
jedijfit's really not that hard...actually, it's nothing18:07
TheEvilPhoenixjedijf:  announce where?  mailing list?  there's not enough linux users here :/18:07
TheEvilPhoenixnor in the HBG area18:07
jedijffind a spot...tell them what you are planning...announce it...field of dreams...they will come18:07
MutantTurkeybring your companion cube just in case18:08
MutantTurkeyHGB area?18:08
jedijfMutantTurkey: i have flyer'd up mccc too18:09
jedijfin the past18:09
MutantTurkey:|18:09
MutantTurkeyyep18:09
jedijfharrisburg, btw18:09
MutantTurkeyeven the techie kids are just fools18:09
MutantTurkeyusing w7, learning java...18:09
MutantTurkeyfools18:09
MutantTurkeyI pity the fool that learns java18:09
jedijfnothing wqrong with /learning/ anything18:09
* jedijf loks at his vb for dos developer boxed set18:11
MutantTurkeylearning how to build bombs, learning how to torture kittens, learning how to steal from honest store owners...18:11
musetuxjedijf: Thanks I look forward to it.18:11
jedijfall good things18:11
MutantTurkeythe party is thursday?18:12
jedijfyes18:13
MutantTurkeycool18:13
jedijfbroken laptops not allowed18:14
MutantTurkey:[18:14
MutantTurkeyI have band practice for my church anyway18:14
MutantTurkeyseems like I am the in house bass player these days18:14
jedijfi started in church18:15
jedijfended there too18:15
MutantTurkeyhah18:15
MutantTurkeyour band is actually really kicking so I don't mind18:15
MutantTurkeyshow up, play for an hour, play on sunday thats it18:15
jedijfour nun could shred18:15
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