[00:33] <pvl1> hello
[00:35] <pvl1> woa kool never heard of pacs
[00:40] <rmg51> next meeting is Sat. the 15th
[00:50] <pvl1> where at
[00:58] <rmg51> http://pacsnet.org/
[00:59] <rmg51> if your anywhere near Willow Grove :-D
[01:01] <pvl1> i am actually
[01:02] <pvl1> i wish i could find some like computer related work in the area
[01:02] <rmg51> the Linux Sig meets at 1 pm
[01:03] <pvl1> sig? and u mean for pacsnet?
[01:04] <rmg51> special interest group
[01:04] <rmg51> there are a bunch of different meetings throughout the day
[01:04] <rmg51> starting at 8 am
[01:05] <pvl1> ah ok, but i may be busy working, maybe not, idk yet. but like, whats the point of these groups?
[01:06] <rmg51> learn, contribute
[01:07] <rmg51> http://pacsnet.org/
[01:07] <pvl1> i shall investigate
[01:07] <pvl1> wanna tell me where i can get a job working with computers now?
[01:07] <rmg51> that will give you an idea of what is happening during the day
[01:21] <InHisName> you, me and 19,998 others are all looking for job in IT, computers or whatever, pvl1
[01:23] <pvl1> maybe we should start our own company then!!
[01:23] <InHisName> Can't call ourselves "geek squad" that's taken already.
[01:30] <pvl1> squadgeek
[03:36] <InHisName> Hmm, not quite the same pizzaz, buuut....
[09:51] <rmg51> Morning
[10:03] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:14] <rmg51> 0/
[10:15] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[10:16] <rmg51> hey JonathanD
[10:17] <JonathanD> Whats up?
[10:20] <rmg51> just us
[10:20] <rmg51> otherwise the same old thing
[10:20] <rmg51> getting ready for work and reading the morning paper
[10:22] <JonathanD> yup
[11:48] <InHisName> getting kids ready for school bus
[12:02] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:05] <InHisName> Now gone to school and back to computer and re-arranging computer room in basement.
[13:07] <JonathanD> Howdy MutantTurkey
[13:07] <MutantTurkey> hey man
[13:07] <MutantTurkey> what's up?
[13:07] <JonathanD> Nothing much.
[13:07] <MutantTurkey> doode I am freaking out, my new laptop is broken :|
[13:08] <InHisName> drunken rage ? MutantTurkey
[13:11] <MutantTurkey> no drunken rage
[13:11] <MutantTurkey> I don't do drunken rages, I am not yet 21
[13:13] <MutantTurkey> what the hell lenovo, it's a 1200 dollar laptop. it shouldn't break in 3 weeks
[13:14] <JonathanD> :(
[13:14] <JonathanD> Whats wrong with it?
[13:18] <MutantTurkey> the screen/lid is coming apart
[13:18] <JonathanD> now thats just fail.
[13:19] <MutantTurkey> let me upload pics h/o
[13:20] <jedijf> karma, it got broken at that protest thingy
[13:21] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: it didn't even leave the bag
[13:21] <MutantTurkey> it broke when I opened the lit
[13:22] <jedijf> but regardless, that sucks *bigtime*
[13:22] <MutantTurkey> it just cracked
[13:22] <MutantTurkey> I wasn't applying ridiculous pressure on it
[13:22] <MutantTurkey> http://imgur.com/nRWa5,Ycm8G#1
[13:22] <MutantTurkey> http://imgur.com/nRWa5,Ycm8G#0
[13:22] <MutantTurkey> see pictures
[13:23] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: ^
[13:24] <jedijf> that doesn't look like a breadk, looks more like it's coming apart whre it's supposed to if you need to replace lcd
[13:24] <jedijf> reshoot that 0 one, the 1 one looks like bezel separating
[13:25] <MutantTurkey> thats wha tI thought at one
[13:25] <MutantTurkey> thats wha tI thought at first
[13:25] <MutantTurkey> but actually the way to replace the lcd is different
[13:25] <MutantTurkey> I , i looked at the driections
[13:26] <MutantTurkey> sorry, konversation acting up.
[13:26] <MutantTurkey> At first I thought that was it, I read the hardware manual and it isn't how you replac ethe screen
[13:27] <jedijf> is there any crack, which wasn't part of their design?
[13:27] <jedijf> did you try 'snapping' it back in place?
[13:27] <MutantTurkey> nope
[13:27] <MutantTurkey> I don't want to risk it.
[13:28] <MutantTurkey> because its only one side
[13:30] <jedijf> haha ok, it's new
[13:30] <MutantTurkey> any ideas
[13:30] <MutantTurkey> i posted on the lenovo forums
[13:30] <jedijf> it seems that the bezel (albeit an odd spot) just opened....usually bezel opening feels like you're going to break it
[13:31] <jedijf> i would snap it back, but it's not mine, and most of my equipment looks like that anyway
[13:31] <jedijf> so what's in that part of the plastic? speakers?
[13:32] <MutantTurkey>  nothing
[13:33] <jedijf> webcam?
[13:33] <MutantTurkey> maybe acess to the webcam
[13:33] <MutantTurkey> yes
[13:33] <MutantTurkey> thats it
[13:33] <jedijf> so prolly webcam and mic
[13:33] <jedijf> snap it back
[13:33] <MutantTurkey> mics at bottom
[13:33] <MutantTurkey> by keys
[13:34] <MutantTurkey> it won't snap back
[13:34] <MutantTurkey> nothing to snap into.
[13:34] <MutantTurkey> it's sort of just wobbling there
[13:34] <jedijf> start at edge where it's still attached and ziplock baggy it
[13:34] <MutantTurkey> ?
[13:35] <jedijf> apply front and back pressure where it's still attached, and slide that pressure along the opening, resealing the bezel
[13:36] <jedijf> like the children do, when they assemble it
[13:40] <MobileTurkey> jedijf: reading forums. known issue = covered under warranty = i can send back
[13:45] <jedijf> do that
[13:47] <MobileTurkey> will do
[13:47] <MobileTurkey> class is up, be back later
[14:17] <InHisName> So he's gonna have to send it back.  Too bad there wasn't an exchange place for Lenovo s locally.
[14:19] <InHisName> Boy ! you Unity haters have it easy !   Didja see the new Win8 layout yet ?   Whew !   I think I like unity much better than that !  Took me 40 minutes of reading on how to shutdown.  Ugggh.
[17:31] <musetux> Greetings All! My name is Tony, I registered for the Release party on the 13th, and just wanted to take a second and introduce myself. ive been an Ubuntu user since
[17:31] <musetux> 7.04, and this is the first time I'm meeting local users. I look forward to meeting some of you the 13th and becoming more active in the Ubuntu community in the future.
[17:32] <MutantTurkeyX> hey
[17:32] <MutantTurkeyX> musetux: it's much more fun when you meet all these, uh characters
[17:33] <musetux> Im pretty Stoked! Im kinda tired of being the one explaining Linux, OpenSource, Ubuntu, etc
[17:33] <MutantTurkeyX> yeah
[17:33] <MutantTurkeyX> it is nice to be among fellow people who understand what you are talking about xD
[17:37] <musetux> swaping ideas, and learning from other users is how i seem to learn the fastest. plus the overall community concept is refreshing theses days.
[17:37] <beta0x64_> Am I the only one that has a hard time making pretty looking buttons in GIMP? :(
[17:38] <beta0x64_> read: I suck at graphic design.
[17:38] <knightzero> beta0x64_: You are not alone.
[17:38] <beta0x64_> knightzero: This makes web design an uphill battle
[17:38]  * beta0x64_ slaps beta0x64
[17:39] <MutantTurkeyX> dude, pretty buttons are not the key to good design...
[17:39] <beta0x64_> They sure bring it together.
[17:39] <MutantTurkeyX> you need FLASHING scrolling marquee's following the mouse..
[17:39] <MutantTurkeyX> right?
[17:39] <MutantTurkeyX> and blinking backgrounds
[17:39] <beta0x64_> I use PHP and Blueprint CSS
[17:39] <beta0x64_> oh snap you're right. that'll totally spruce up my portfolio
[17:39] <MutantTurkeyX> indeed
[17:40] <knightzero> MutantTurkeyX: content creation and seisures go hand in hand.
[17:40] <MutantTurkeyX> hehe
[17:40] <beta0x64_> I'm overwhelmed.
[17:40] <beta0x64_> I don't know if I should go with something like apache tomcat or django or cakephp or fuck it and go embedded systems
[17:40] <beta0x64_> sorry language
[17:41] <MobileTurkey> I hate CMS's... they are trolls
[17:41] <beta0x64_> I need to learn them for $$$
[17:41] <MobileTurkey> but I don't know much abut django
[17:41] <musetux> Im just starting Django, it's pretty sweet!
[17:41] <teddy-dbear> no potty mouth around the teddy bear :-/
[17:42] <beta0x64_> yes.
[17:42] <beta0x64_> I am a CS student and a bit overwhelmed at what I should do
[17:42] <beta0x64_> I've been programming for years, but I have commitment issues
[17:42] <MobileTurkey> I am a education student, but i should be a programming student
[17:42] <beta0x64_> what do :(
[17:43] <MobileTurkey> what do?
[17:43] <beta0x64_> what do I do?
[17:44] <MobileTurkey> quit your job, move to alaska, profit.
[17:45] <musetux> My 2 cents: find the language you find most comfortable with and master it, make it you B!$@h. then spreadout from there
[17:47] <MobileTurkey> learn C
[17:47] <MobileTurkey> always learn C
[17:47] <MobileTurkey> you can learn wishy washy languages like python and ruby later, but you should understand *how* and *why* certain things operate
[17:48] <MobileTurkey> as an exersize
[17:48] <knightzero> MobileTurkey: how different is C++ from C - C++ is the next programming course I have in my roster this year, just wondering how useful it will be.
[17:49] <MobileTurkey> C++ is usefuly
[17:49] <MobileTurkey> but also much more complicated imho
[17:49] <beta0x64_> fudge
[17:49] <MobileTurkey> it's easy to start with though
[17:50] <MobileTurkey> it just has many entities
[17:50] <MobileTurkey> http://harm.cat-v.org/
[17:50] <MobileTurkey> whoops
[17:50] <MobileTurkey> http://harmful.cat-v.org
[17:50] <MobileTurkey> has some quotes about C++
[17:50] <knightzero> The dean of my program scholded me for taking a Visual Basic course to start out....not that they offered me anything else on the first day.
[17:51] <MobileTurkey> there ya go: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/
[17:51] <MobileTurkey> VB is uh...
[17:51] <MobileTurkey> lol
[17:51] <knightzero> yeah, that's what I've heard from just about everyone else.
[17:51] <MobileTurkey> C++, it's like nailing legs on an dog to make an octopus
[17:52] <knightzero> I'm not sure whether to be excited or frightened by some of these statements.
[17:53] <MobileTurkey> I dunno
[17:54] <MobileTurkey>  I have to work with C++ and i find it to be less concise and more confusing.
[17:54] <MobileTurkey> there are nice tutorials on the internet though
[18:02] <jedijf> musetux: welcome, can't wait to meet you at the release party
[18:05] <jedijf> beta0x64: i liked the 'comfort' statement, it's more about the driver than the vehicle
[18:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> i wish i could get away to get to the release party, but alas College takes priority >.>
[18:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> s/the/a/
[18:06] <jedijf> TheEvilPhoenix: you can have your own at college!
[18:06] <jedijf> any day
[18:06] <jedijf> just announce it
[18:06] <MutantTurkey> i did post linux signs
[18:07] <MutantTurkey> but no one answerd :[
[18:07] <MutantTurkey> at mccc
[18:07] <jedijf> it's really not that hard...actually, it's nothing
[18:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> jedijf:  announce where?  mailing list?  there's not enough linux users here :/
[18:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> nor in the HBG area
[18:07] <jedijf> find a spot...tell them what you are planning...announce it...field of dreams...they will come
[18:08] <MutantTurkey> bring your companion cube just in case
[18:08] <MutantTurkey> HGB area?
[18:09] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: i have flyer'd up mccc too
[18:09] <jedijf> in the past
[18:09] <MutantTurkey> :|
[18:09] <MutantTurkey> yep
[18:09] <jedijf> harrisburg, btw
[18:09] <MutantTurkey> even the techie kids are just fools
[18:09] <MutantTurkey> using w7, learning java...
[18:09] <MutantTurkey> fools
[18:09] <MutantTurkey> I pity the fool that learns java
[18:09] <jedijf> nothing wqrong with /learning/ anything
[18:11]  * jedijf loks at his vb for dos developer boxed set
[18:11] <MutantTurkey> learning how to build bombs, learning how to torture kittens, learning how to steal from honest store owners...
[18:11] <musetux> jedijf: Thanks I look forward to it.
[18:11] <jedijf> all good things
[18:12] <MutantTurkey> the party is thursday?
[18:13] <jedijf> yes
[18:13] <MutantTurkey> cool
[18:14] <jedijf> broken laptops not allowed
[18:14] <MutantTurkey> :[
[18:14] <MutantTurkey> I have band practice for my church anyway
[18:14] <MutantTurkey> seems like I am the in house bass player these days
[18:15] <jedijf> i started in church
[18:15] <jedijf> ended there too
[18:15] <MutantTurkey> hah
[18:15] <MutantTurkey> our band is actually really kicking so I don't mind
[18:15] <MutantTurkey> show up, play for an hour, play on sunday thats it
[18:15] <jedijf> our nun could shred