[00:33] hello [00:35] woa kool never heard of pacs [00:40] next meeting is Sat. the 15th [00:50] where at [00:58] http://pacsnet.org/ [00:59] if your anywhere near Willow Grove :-D [01:01] i am actually [01:02] i wish i could find some like computer related work in the area [01:02] the Linux Sig meets at 1 pm [01:03] sig? and u mean for pacsnet? [01:04] special interest group [01:04] there are a bunch of different meetings throughout the day [01:04] starting at 8 am [01:05] ah ok, but i may be busy working, maybe not, idk yet. but like, whats the point of these groups? [01:06] learn, contribute [01:07] http://pacsnet.org/ [01:07] i shall investigate [01:07] wanna tell me where i can get a job working with computers now? [01:07] that will give you an idea of what is happening during the day [01:21] you, me and 19,998 others are all looking for job in IT, computers or whatever, pvl1 [01:23] maybe we should start our own company then!! [01:23] Can't call ourselves "geek squad" that's taken already. [01:30] squadgeek [03:36] Hmm, not quite the same pizzaz, buuut.... === Sadin is now known as Sadin-ask === Sadin-ask is now known as Sadin-afk [09:51] Morning [10:03] Morning. [10:14] 0/ [10:15] hey rmg51 [10:16] hey JonathanD [10:17] Whats up? [10:20] just us [10:20] otherwise the same old thing [10:20] getting ready for work and reading the morning paper [10:22] yup [11:48] getting kids ready for school bus [12:02] morning [13:05] Now gone to school and back to computer and re-arranging computer room in basement. [13:07] Howdy MutantTurkey [13:07] hey man [13:07] what's up? [13:07] Nothing much. [13:07] doode I am freaking out, my new laptop is broken :| [13:08] drunken rage ? MutantTurkey [13:11] no drunken rage [13:11] I don't do drunken rages, I am not yet 21 [13:13] what the hell lenovo, it's a 1200 dollar laptop. it shouldn't break in 3 weeks [13:14] :( [13:14] Whats wrong with it? [13:18] the screen/lid is coming apart [13:18] now thats just fail. [13:19] let me upload pics h/o [13:20] karma, it got broken at that protest thingy [13:21] jedijf: it didn't even leave the bag [13:21] it broke when I opened the lit [13:22] but regardless, that sucks *bigtime* [13:22] it just cracked [13:22] I wasn't applying ridiculous pressure on it [13:22] http://imgur.com/nRWa5,Ycm8G#1 [13:22] http://imgur.com/nRWa5,Ycm8G#0 [13:22] see pictures [13:23] jedijf: ^ [13:24] that doesn't look like a breadk, looks more like it's coming apart whre it's supposed to if you need to replace lcd [13:24] reshoot that 0 one, the 1 one looks like bezel separating [13:25] thats wha tI thought at one [13:25] thats wha tI thought at first [13:25] but actually the way to replace the lcd is different [13:25] I , i looked at the driections [13:26] sorry, konversation acting up. [13:26] At first I thought that was it, I read the hardware manual and it isn't how you replac ethe screen [13:27] is there any crack, which wasn't part of their design? [13:27] did you try 'snapping' it back in place? [13:27] nope [13:27] I don't want to risk it. [13:28] because its only one side [13:30] haha ok, it's new [13:30] any ideas [13:30] i posted on the lenovo forums [13:30] it seems that the bezel (albeit an odd spot) just opened....usually bezel opening feels like you're going to break it [13:31] i would snap it back, but it's not mine, and most of my equipment looks like that anyway [13:31] so what's in that part of the plastic? speakers? [13:32] nothing [13:33] webcam? [13:33] maybe acess to the webcam [13:33] yes [13:33] thats it [13:33] so prolly webcam and mic [13:33] snap it back [13:33] mics at bottom [13:33] by keys [13:34] it won't snap back [13:34] nothing to snap into. [13:34] it's sort of just wobbling there [13:34] start at edge where it's still attached and ziplock baggy it [13:34] ? [13:35] apply front and back pressure where it's still attached, and slide that pressure along the opening, resealing the bezel [13:36] like the children do, when they assemble it [13:40] jedijf: reading forums. known issue = covered under warranty = i can send back [13:45] do that [13:47] will do [13:47] class is up, be back later [14:17] So he's gonna have to send it back. Too bad there wasn't an exchange place for Lenovo s locally. [14:19] Boy ! you Unity haters have it easy ! Didja see the new Win8 layout yet ? Whew ! I think I like unity much better than that ! Took me 40 minutes of reading on how to shutdown. Ugggh. === MutantTurkey is now known as MutantTurkeyX [17:31] Greetings All! My name is Tony, I registered for the Release party on the 13th, and just wanted to take a second and introduce myself. ive been an Ubuntu user since [17:31] 7.04, and this is the first time I'm meeting local users. I look forward to meeting some of you the 13th and becoming more active in the Ubuntu community in the future. [17:32] hey [17:32] musetux: it's much more fun when you meet all these, uh characters [17:33] Im pretty Stoked! Im kinda tired of being the one explaining Linux, OpenSource, Ubuntu, etc [17:33] yeah [17:33] it is nice to be among fellow people who understand what you are talking about xD [17:37] swaping ideas, and learning from other users is how i seem to learn the fastest. plus the overall community concept is refreshing theses days. [17:37] Am I the only one that has a hard time making pretty looking buttons in GIMP? :( [17:38] read: I suck at graphic design. [17:38] beta0x64_: You are not alone. [17:38] knightzero: This makes web design an uphill battle [17:38] * beta0x64_ slaps beta0x64 [17:39] dude, pretty buttons are not the key to good design... [17:39] They sure bring it together. [17:39] you need FLASHING scrolling marquee's following the mouse.. [17:39] right? [17:39] and blinking backgrounds [17:39] I use PHP and Blueprint CSS [17:39] oh snap you're right. that'll totally spruce up my portfolio [17:39] indeed [17:40] MutantTurkeyX: content creation and seisures go hand in hand. [17:40] hehe [17:40] I'm overwhelmed. === MutantTurkeyX is now known as MobileTurkey [17:40] I don't know if I should go with something like apache tomcat or django or cakephp or fuck it and go embedded systems [17:40] sorry language [17:41] I hate CMS's... they are trolls [17:41] I need to learn them for $$$ [17:41] but I don't know much abut django [17:41] Im just starting Django, it's pretty sweet! [17:41] no potty mouth around the teddy bear :-/ [17:42] yes. [17:42] I am a CS student and a bit overwhelmed at what I should do [17:42] I've been programming for years, but I have commitment issues [17:42] I am a education student, but i should be a programming student [17:42] what do :( [17:43] what do? [17:43] what do I do? [17:44] quit your job, move to alaska, profit. [17:45] My 2 cents: find the language you find most comfortable with and master it, make it you B!$@h. then spreadout from there [17:47] learn C [17:47] always learn C [17:47] you can learn wishy washy languages like python and ruby later, but you should understand *how* and *why* certain things operate [17:48] as an exersize [17:48] MobileTurkey: how different is C++ from C - C++ is the next programming course I have in my roster this year, just wondering how useful it will be. [17:49] C++ is usefuly [17:49] but also much more complicated imho [17:49] fudge [17:49] it's easy to start with though [17:50] it just has many entities [17:50] http://harm.cat-v.org/ [17:50] whoops [17:50] http://harmful.cat-v.org [17:50] has some quotes about C++ [17:50] The dean of my program scholded me for taking a Visual Basic course to start out....not that they offered me anything else on the first day. [17:51] there ya go: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/ [17:51] VB is uh... [17:51] lol [17:51] yeah, that's what I've heard from just about everyone else. [17:51] C++, it's like nailing legs on an dog to make an octopus [17:52] I'm not sure whether to be excited or frightened by some of these statements. [17:53] I dunno [17:54] I have to work with C++ and i find it to be less concise and more confusing. [17:54] there are nice tutorials on the internet though [18:02] musetux: welcome, can't wait to meet you at the release party [18:05] beta0x64: i liked the 'comfort' statement, it's more about the driver than the vehicle [18:06] i wish i could get away to get to the release party, but alas College takes priority >.> [18:06] s/the/a/ [18:06] TheEvilPhoenix: you can have your own at college! [18:06] any day [18:06] just announce it [18:06] i did post linux signs [18:07] but no one answerd :[ [18:07] at mccc [18:07] it's really not that hard...actually, it's nothing [18:07] jedijf: announce where? mailing list? there's not enough linux users here :/ [18:07] nor in the HBG area [18:07] find a spot...tell them what you are planning...announce it...field of dreams...they will come [18:08] bring your companion cube just in case [18:08] HGB area? [18:09] MutantTurkey: i have flyer'd up mccc too [18:09] in the past [18:09] :| [18:09] yep [18:09] harrisburg, btw [18:09] even the techie kids are just fools [18:09] using w7, learning java... [18:09] fools [18:09] I pity the fool that learns java [18:09] nothing wqrong with /learning/ anything [18:11] * jedijf loks at his vb for dos developer boxed set [18:11] learning how to build bombs, learning how to torture kittens, learning how to steal from honest store owners... [18:11] jedijf: Thanks I look forward to it. [18:11] all good things [18:12] the party is thursday? [18:13] yes [18:13] cool [18:14] broken laptops not allowed [18:14] :[ [18:14] I have band practice for my church anyway [18:14] seems like I am the in house bass player these days [18:15] i started in church [18:15] ended there too [18:15] hah [18:15] our band is actually really kicking so I don't mind [18:15] show up, play for an hour, play on sunday thats it [18:15] our nun could shred === Joe_CoT is now known as Joe_CoT|fighting === Joe_CoT|fighting is now known as Joe_CoT|asleep === Joe_CoT|asleep is now known as Joe_CoT