[01:24] <wrst> hello :)
[01:28] <binarymutant> hello wrst
[01:29] <wrst> hey binarymutant how you doing?
[02:03] <binarymutant> good how about yourself?
[02:05] <binarymutant> why would a game need libssh2... /me doesn't like closed source
[02:09] <binarymutant> bin/hacker-evolution: error while loading shared libraries: libssh2.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:11] <wrst> weird... but i'm no gamer so i'm clueless :)
[02:27] <binarymutant> I don't think any game should have access to ssh
[02:27] <binarymutant> much less one named "hacker" in the title :D
[02:27] <wrst> ha ha no I would certainly think now :)
[02:27] <wrst> i was trying to think why a game would need ssh period :)
[02:27] <wrst> *not
[03:40] <cyberanger> binarymutant: what game
[03:48] <binarymutant> cyberanger: hacker-evolution
[03:50] <cyberanger> binarymutant: original
[03:50] <binarymutant> idk
[03:50] <binarymutant> deleted it already
[03:50] <cyberanger> pay for it or...
[03:51] <cyberanger> oh, well... ok
[03:51] <binarymutant> demo
[03:51] <binarymutant> I played the original original, that was fun
[03:52] <binarymutant> uplink
[03:52] <cyberanger> doesn't sound right to be calling that library, but nothing inherently wrong with it
[03:52] <cyberanger> attach more code to it, oh boy
[03:52] <cyberanger> and yep, uplink was good
[03:52] <binarymutant> cyberanger: it means that it uses ssh for something, and I dont like that
[03:53] <binarymutant> especially since I can't see the code to make sure it's not doing anything "bad"
[03:54] <binarymutant> it's being run as a user it could grab private keys, etc.
[03:54] <binarymutant> who knows
[03:57] <cyberanger> binarymutant: hence the bit wherre I said it's not inherently wrong, but the code is an issue
[03:57] <cyberanger> it could be innocent too (generate keys in game to be disposed of, but make it realistic)
[03:58] <binarymutant> too realistic
[03:58] <cyberanger> I do serously doubt that, but yeah
[04:13] <cyberanger> be nice for some realistic games though
[04:16] <binarymutant> that's what home networks are for :P
[04:16]  * cyberanger agrees, starts to "game" binarymutant's home network
[04:16] <cyberanger> ;-)
[04:23] <binarymutant> :P
[04:31]  * cyberanger gets bored with this game, decides to play on the PRC's home network, the goal: "delete" the Golden Shield Project
[12:50] <xpistos> Morning
[12:50] <xpistos> Capo
[13:27] <wrst> hey xpistos, i'm on vacation this week... woo hoo
[13:42] <xpistos> wrst: Wow. That rocks! T-minus 9 day and counting for me
[13:42] <wrst> cool xpistos!
[13:45] <xpistos> wrst: and FYI I got Icewm on that old ass laptop at home with arch so progressing nicely
[13:49] <binarymutant> if you change the icewm menu to a start button it looks exactly like windows95
[13:49] <binarymutant> minus icons
[13:51] <binarymutant> icewm: irox for desktop icons?
[13:53] <binarymutant> :/
[13:55] <binarymutant> http://mimiandeunice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ME_486_PokeBlocker.png
[14:04] <wrst> that's neat xpistos, i've been trying out ubuntu 11.10.. .and well its not bad
[14:04] <xpistos> Gee that is a glowing endorsement
[14:04] <wrst> xpistos: well after 11.04 and the major suckdom that was it, I think so :)
[14:05] <xpistos> I like 11.04 but I use the classic interface and not the unity debacle, but I don't see that option in this new version
[14:07] <wrst> xpistos: no they are using gnome 3 for their base in 11.10
[14:07] <wrst> so you can install gnome shell that i think is still better
[14:52] <johnhaitas> hey wrst xpistos
[14:52] <johnhaitas> wrst: you should check out znc
[14:53] <johnhaitas> pretty cool
[14:53] <xpistos> what is znc?
[14:54] <johnhaitas> xpistos: znc is better than quassel
[14:54] <xpistos> can I use it for im's too?
[15:41] <xpistos> how do I tell my computer to use icwem as the VNC wm?
[15:51] <binarymutant> ?
[15:51] <binarymutant> xinitrc ?
[15:51] <binarymutant> maybe..
[15:52] <binarymutant> idk that's something to google
[15:52] <binarymutant> http://nuclear-imaging.info/site_content/2010/04/19/vnc-server-setup-for-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[15:54] <binarymutant> xpistos: yes|no? ^^
[15:57] <binarymutant> johnhaitas: why znc over screen/
[15:59] <johnhaitas> binarymutant: znc is a client-agnostic IRC bouncer
[15:59] <johnhaitas> binarymutant: U can use irssi, xchat, quassel ... Whatever
[16:00] <binarymutant> same applies to screen as well
[16:00] <xpistos> binarymutant: I have it working with enlightenment but I want to switch it to icewm instead
[16:00] <binarymutant> although you'd have to log off to change clients
[16:01] <binarymutant> xpistos: znc or vnc/
[16:01] <xpistos> vnc
[16:02] <binarymutant> it should work with xinitrc, check the vnc config
[16:02] <xpistos> my server is using it but my laptop uses enlightenment but I can see where to change it
[16:05] <johnhaitas> binarymutant: i don't believe this is the same as screen
[16:07] <binarymutant> it's not the same, but used in a similar fashion
[16:07] <binarymutant> detach sessions
[16:08] <binarymutant> znc +1 works inside irc; screen +1 works outside of irc
[16:09] <johnhaitas> binarymutant: i can't have a persistent connection via a server and use a GUI client w screen (that i am aware of)
[16:10] <binarymutant> pretty sure you can detach xchat from screen
[16:10] <binarymutant> worth a try
[16:11] <binarymutant> ah
[16:11] <binarymutant> if you do X forwarding
[16:12] <johnhaitas> binarymutant: yea … X forwarding … and limited to an X11 client
[16:12] <binarymutant> true
[16:12] <johnhaitas> binarymutant: znc is something different entirely
[16:12] <johnhaitas> binarymutant: i reckon you'd like it
[16:12] <binarymutant> I can see the appeal now
[16:12] <johnhaitas> and btw … i've got a couple channels you should be in
[16:14] <testingAccount> johnhaitas: who are you?
[16:14] <testingAccount> hmm
[16:18] <cyberanger> testingAccount: who are you?
[16:19] <testingAccount> cyberanger: who are you
[16:19] <binarymutant> anon
[16:28] <cyberanger> testingAccount: short or long version ;-)
[16:33] <binarymutant> gtg bbl
[16:35] <johnhaitas> gotta get binarymutant on znc
[16:35] <johnhaitas> :)
[16:35] <johnhaitas> wrst: you tried znc yet?
[16:37] <cyberanger> wrst: what's a vacation, I tried asking google, but nobody there had a clue either.
[16:41] <cyberanger> johnhaitas: I don't think he has, uses quassel so znc would be some added overhead
[16:42] <cyberanger> johnhaitas: unless he desired to use other clients too
[16:55] <johnhaitas> cyberanger: he expressed interest
[16:55] <johnhaitas> cyberanger: so far i am pleased w znc
[16:56] <cyberanger> johnhaitas: it is great, that's for sure
[16:56] <johnhaitas> cyberanger:  u tried it yet?
[16:57] <cyberanger> while back
[16:57] <johnhaitas> cyberanger: using it now?
[16:57] <cyberanger> no
[17:00] <johnhaitas> cyberanger: still w irssi?
[17:03] <cyberanger> and weechat
[17:13] <testingAccount> cyberanger: i'm trying different clients
[17:16] <johnhaitas> ooo
[17:16] <johnhaitas> limechat
[17:16] <johnhaitas> yum
[17:24] <cosmicpizza> morning here
[17:29] <cyberanger> cosmicpizza: afternoon here, good afternoon
[17:30] <cosmicpizza> ok
[17:30] <cosmicpizza> howdy cyberranger ?
[17:31] <johnhaitas> hey cosmicpizza
[17:31] <johnhaitas> cosmicpizza: what part of TN are you in?
[17:31] <cyberanger> cosmicpizza: how's it going
[17:31] <cosmicpizza> i' m so fine
[17:32] <cyberanger> cosmicpizza: still in paris or have you started your trip
[17:32] <cosmicpizza> i live in paris john
[17:32] <johnhaitas> cool cosmicpizza
[17:32] <cosmicpizza> nope cyberanger
[17:32] <johnhaitas> brb
[17:33] <cosmicpizza> but my parents are doing a trip to canada
[17:33] <cosmicpizza> what' s seem "brb" ?
[17:34] <cyberanger> be right back
[17:34] <cyberanger> Quebec again
[17:35] <cyberanger> ?
[17:35] <cosmicpizza> yeah, to state of quebec
[17:37] <cosmicpizza> people who' re living in quebec seems to be very cool as i read to mails that they send me
[17:37] <cosmicpizza> instead of people who live in france
[17:50] <cyberanger> yeah, Quebec is pretty laid back
[17:50] <cyberanger> for what I saw, at least
[18:04] <wrst> well cyberanger my vacation is completing the moving process :)
[18:04] <wrst> johnhaitas: i'm happy where I'm at on the irc front got too much invested in it now :)
[18:06] <netritious__> howdy locotn
[18:12] <johnhaitas> howdy netritious__
[18:12] <johnhaitas> been too long
[18:12] <johnhaitas> netritious__: we're having a 11.10 release party in nashville
[18:13] <johnhaitas> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/tennessee.team/1329/detail/
[18:14] <wrst> netritious__: !
[18:15] <johnhaitas> wrst: btw ... gave you founder status in this channel as well
[18:15] <johnhaitas> wrst: triple redundancy
[18:15] <wrst> ok johnhaitas, that makes me feel older and more mature :)
[18:16] <wrst> and triple redundancy is good given the fleeting nature of things sometimes
[18:16] <johnhaitas> wrst: i would hope having a child would do that x100
[18:16] <johnhaitas> wrst: agreed
[18:16] <johnhaitas> wrst: you've been around the longest
[18:16] <wrst> i don't know johnhaitas, her mom is in charge of all the serious stuff, i get down on the floor and act like a fool :)
[18:17] <johnhaitas> i reckon give founder status to the three who have been around and involved longest - for best triple redundancy
[18:18] <wrst> i can agree there too johnhaitas
[18:19]  * wrst is growing some what not hacked off at 11.10
[18:19]  * wrst might even say its ok after using it a while longer
[18:21] <johnhaitas> wrst: i'm checking out 11.10 beta 2 right now
[18:23] <johnhaitas> wrst: it seems pretty decent
[18:24] <johnhaitas> wrst: login screen is an excellent upgrade
[18:24] <johnhaitas> wrst: and unity has come a long way
[18:25] <johnhaitas> wrst: ubuntu is really distinguishing itself on the user interface/experience amongst common linux distros
[18:27] <netritious__> sorry...was afk there for a sec
[18:28] <netritious__> yeah 11.10 is neat
[18:28] <netritious__> d/l beta2 a day or so ago and installed in a vm
[18:29] <netritious__> johnhaitas: not so pace_t anymore? :D howdy wrst!
[18:33] <netritious__> getting my head wrapped around debian squeeze currently
[18:35] <johnhaitas> netritious__: yea
[18:35] <netritious__> 1.4GB gives me vanilla gnome desktop with clearlooks theme whereas ubuntu is 2.0GB after stripping stuff out (open/libreoffice,etc)
[18:35] <johnhaitas> netritious__: pace_t_zulu started to seem silly
[18:35] <johnhaitas> netritious__: no secret who i am
[18:35] <johnhaitas> netritious__: it is consistent with my other online identities
[18:35] <netritious__> oh wasn't implying anything :D
[18:36] <netritious__> i always thought pace_t_zulu was a pretty original name johnhaitas
[18:38] <netritious__> but anyways, yeah 11.10, interesting to see where Ubuntu is headed
[18:38] <johnhaitas> netritious__: agreed ... still proud of it
[18:38] <johnhaitas> netritious__: you can "/msg NickServ info johnhaitas" and see i still hold pace_t_zulu
[18:38] <netritious__> good...you held on to it :)
[18:40] <netritious__> tightvncserver is broken in 11.10...funtionality is broken, package installs fine
[18:42] <netritious__> and I don't like the fact that I can't seem to customize anything in the new menu system
[18:42] <netritious__> there is a little customization, but not anything like 10.04 with gnome 2
[18:42] <netritious__> not griping, just observations
[18:44] <netritious> someone feel free to kick netritious__ :)
[18:44] <netritious> the java app bombed on me at freenode...what was the last message you guys received?
[19:34] <netritious> sup binarymutant
[19:38] <binarymutant> waasuupp
[19:38] <netritious> man not much..checking out debian...you?
 not griping, just observations
[19:38] <Unit193> Laston e
[19:39] <netritious> thanks Unit193
[19:39] <binarymutant> just got back home, time to relax
[19:39] <Unit193> Howdy both of you
[19:39] <netritious> howdy Unit193
[19:39] <binarymutant> waasssuupp
[19:39] <binarymutant> :P
[19:39] <netritious> :)
[19:41] <binarymutant> these guys in a channel that pace_t_zulu introduced me to are talking about FBI catching worms by copying the output of telnet... I want to say something... but just joined the channel today
[19:42] <binarymutant> "your wrong" doesn't really make me look good :D
[19:42] <netritious> telnet? who uses telnet anymore?
[19:43] <binarymutant> netritious: no one, but it's a way to get output from a port still
[19:43] <Unit193> netritious: Then how do YOU IRC?? ;)
[19:43] <netritious> yeah might rub someone the wrong way binarymutant
[19:43] <binarymutant> but the output of a worm isn't exactly copying the worm
[19:43] <netritious> lol Unit193
[19:43] <netritious> +1
[19:43] <binarymutant> it's like "ya I copied the motd of the worm and sent it to the fbi" lol
[19:44] <netritious> it would make more sense if A) the worm uses a telnet server or client and traffic is being sniffed or B) they were using a packet sniffer
[19:44] <netritious> both cases a packet sniffer required
[19:44] <binarymutant> idk, it was a strange story, can't believe I read it all
[19:44] <netritious> lol binarymutant on motd
[19:45]  * binarymutant thought netritious and Unit193 were the same person o_0
[19:45]  * binarymutant been gone too long
[19:45] <Unit193> Wait, I already told you who I was though :P
[19:45] <netritious> binarymutant: nope, there can only be one netritious :P
[19:46] <binarymutant> lol the highlander
[19:46] <netritious> my wife loved the series...i think she was hot for the dude playing the highlander, but she won't admit it lol
[19:47] <binarymutant> adrian? or christopher? I forgot their last names
[19:47] <netritious> adrian...that sounds right
[19:47] <binarymutant> ah the tv series
[19:47] <binarymutant> most were lols
[19:47] <netritious> yeah
[19:48] <binarymutant> women kept that show going for 10+ years
[19:48] <netritious> +1
[19:48]  * binarymutant watched it too
[19:48] <netritious> hahaha...the truth comes out :D
[19:48] <binarymutant> *but* for different reasons :P
[19:49] <binarymutant> I watched it for the swordplay rofl, still sounds bad lol
[19:50] <netritious> nah I get that
[19:50] <binarymutant> you watched it too
[19:51] <netritious> same reason I like old overdubbed kung fu movies
[19:51] <binarymutant> wutang
[19:51] <netritious> I watched it kind of...when it was around we only had one tv :)
[19:52]  * netritious is not big on TV
[19:52] <binarymutant> I will say the tv show was better than the movies
[19:52] <binarymutant> made a little bit more sense
[19:52] <binarymutant> I do remember they even had a cartoon of future highlander
[19:52] <binarymutant> nostalgia
[19:52] <netritious> I remember that binarymutant
[19:53] <binarymutant> mid-90s I think
[19:53] <netritious> yep
[21:16] <wrst> netritious: saw you are trying it debian squeeze how you likey?
[21:17] <cyberanger> wrst: I likey it almost as much as debian wheezy (aka testing)
[21:18] <wrst> hey cyberanger!
[21:18] <cyberanger> wrst: how's it going
[21:18] <wrst> good cyberanger been moving stuff today cleaning etc etc
[21:19] <wrst> i have an old macbook g4 setup in our garage with a bass amp playing music, i could get ran out of the neighborhood in a hurry
[21:19] <cyberanger> sounds like......oh, three letter word I always forget.......fun
[21:19] <wrst> oh yeah cyberanger loads of the f word
[21:19] <wrst> so cyberanger i have had ubuntu 11.10 running all day not bad
[21:20] <cyberanger> now that does sound fun, garage rock I hope
[21:20] <wrst> of course cyberanger, barely have the volume turned up on the amp and the windows are rattling :)
[21:20] <wrst> not the best sound quality out of a bass amp but it sure is loud
[21:21]  * Unit193 wonders if wrst wants a visit ;)
[21:21] <wrst> ha ha Unit193 well...
[21:21] <cyberanger> for garage rock I'd almost consider offering (does that mac need cleaning out ;-))
[21:23] <wrst> well i haven't found a ppc distro that works very well, 1ghz and 256mb of ram
[21:24] <Unit193> Not arch or debian?
[21:41] <binarymutant> wrst: ppc? seriously? they still make those??
[21:41] <Unit193> They dont'
[21:42] <binarymutant> apple used to use them, but switched to x86
[21:42] <binarymutant> "old macbook" I should read before posting lol
[21:43] <binarymutant> debian is "okay" with the ppc architecture
[21:44] <binarymutant> I used "intimate" debian on ppc, it worked well. On an ipaq though
[21:44] <binarymutant> the only ppc, I've ever used
[21:44] <wrst> binarymutant: yeah its an oldy :)
[21:45] <binarymutant> cheapy arch
[21:45] <binarymutant> x86 much more fun :D
[21:46] <wrst> binarymutant:  yes it is
[21:47] <binarymutant> debian could run on it
[21:49] <wrst> yeah i need to get debian running on my toaster first binarymutant :)
[21:49] <wrst> os x is ok on it and plays my music but i hate itunes
[21:50] <binarymutant> http://www.uberreview.com/2005/09/netbsd-controlled-toaster.htm
[21:51] <binarymutant> <-- actually googled debian on toaster :D
[21:54] <binarymutant> <-- so hopped up on energy drinks roflcopter
[21:55] <cyberanger> binarymutant: your installing bsd on a toaster, what's next, linux on a lawn mower
[21:56] <johnhaitas> binarymutant: yea ... that is a classic
[22:05] <binarymutant> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9103
[22:06] <binarymutant> https://smartmow.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=1
[22:06] <binarymutant> energy drinks is making me google some crazy stuff
[22:06] <Unit193> Vodka does the same...
[22:07] <binarymutant> too early for vodka, plus clear liquid makes me vomit
[22:07] <binarymutant> brown good, clear bad
[22:07] <Unit193> Good ol jack
[22:08] <binarymutant> yess
[22:08] <binarymutant> TN all the way
[22:08]  * cyberanger adds some food colouring to binarymutant's glass then
[22:08] <binarymutant> lols
[22:09]  * binarymutant likes beer from Wisconsin though...
[22:10] <binarymutant> http://www.handlewithlinux.com/cool-linux-beer-tap
[22:11] <binarymutant> and the very cool http://www.moobella.com/
[22:12] <binarymutant> ^^ made linux journal
[22:12] <binarymutant> k, I'm spamming - stopping - now
[22:15] <binarymutant> ya'll need energy drinks too :D