| Kilos | morning superfly nuvolari and others | 05:04 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | sjoe oom, up early this morning! | 05:04 |
| Kilos | yeah got a thumper | 05:05 |
| superfly | eina | 05:05 |
| Kilos | have a good day superfly | 05:06 |
| superfly | thanks oom, I hope your headache clears up soon | 05:08 |
| Kilos | ty my friend | 05:08 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 05:29 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn | 05:30 |
| nlsthzn | Hey uncle Kilos , all well? | 05:33 |
| Kilos | yes ty nlsthzn and there | 05:33 |
| Kilos | ? | 05:33 |
| nlsthzn | All well, fuzzy but awake | 05:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:34 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 05:38 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 05:38 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 05:42 |
| Kilos | Maaz, thanks | 05:42 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Okay :-) | 05:42 |
| magespawn | morning all | 05:59 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 06:00 |
| magespawn | one of these days i will get in here before you. | 06:00 |
| Kilos | lol. its the fly you gotta beat not me | 06:01 |
| magespawn | the fly might be here but seems to sit in the corner until there is a problem, not really up for general conversation. | 06:02 |
| Kilos | and greets always | 06:02 |
| Kilos | proper gentleman | 06:02 |
| magespawn | yup | 06:02 |
| Kilos | no time for just chatting him | 06:03 |
| Kilos | he is a busy busy fella | 06:03 |
| Kilos | Tonberry, wb | 06:03 |
| magespawn | Kilos you are the maitre d'Ubuntu-za. | 06:04 |
| Kilos | only when i got enough data yes | 06:05 |
| Kilos | i greet and welcome noobs etc | 06:05 |
| Kilos | and get helped with probs | 06:05 |
| Kilos | you have put your name in yet even | 06:07 |
| Kilos | sigh | 06:07 |
| Kilos | so slack | 06:07 |
| magespawn | say what? | 06:07 |
| superfly | I'm very busy at the moment :-( | 06:07 |
| Kilos | unless its actually unknown | 06:07 |
| superfly | End of the month I'm leaving this job, so then I'll have more time to chat :-) | 06:07 |
| magespawn | ahh the fly is here. lol | 06:07 |
| Kilos | are you using xchat magespawn | 06:07 |
| sakhi | Morning | 06:08 |
| magespawn | thats cool | 06:08 |
| magespawn | yup | 06:08 |
| Kilos | hiya sakhi | 06:08 |
| superfly | Kilos: and then I won't be in early anymore... I'll be sleeping in! (well, as much as my 2 year old will allow) | 06:08 |
| Kilos | ha ha zac will sort you out superfly | 06:08 |
| sakhi | superfly: time flies, he's two years already. | 06:09 |
| magespawn | 2 year olds do not let you sleep in. superfly you going to work from home? | 06:10 |
| superfly | sakhi: yeah... 2 years and 2 months currently | 06:10 |
| superfly | magespawn: yeah\ | 06:10 |
| magespawn | thats a new challange altogether. | 06:11 |
| magespawn | Kilos why did you ask? | 06:11 |
| Kilos | i like to right click on the nicks and see who i am talking to | 06:12 |
| Kilos | like whois | 06:12 |
| magespawn | ahh right will remedy. | 06:12 |
| superfly | magespawn: it's not a must, but it is nice :-) | 06:13 |
| Kilos | then we know to swear at you in english or afrikaans | 06:15 |
| magespawn | ha. either one is good my wife is afrikaans. | 06:22 |
| Kilos | no man, we dont wanna swear at your wife | 06:22 |
| Kilos | she is innocent | 06:22 |
| Kilos | yo scar[w] | 06:28 |
| magespawn | she could translate is what i mean, and i have a fair to poor understanding of the language anyways | 06:29 |
| magespawn | lol | 06:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:29 |
| Kilos | just joking | 06:29 |
| magespawn | there we go. it is done on the laptop. | 06:34 |
| Kilos | hmmm not here | 06:34 |
| magespawn | just changed it now. | 06:35 |
| Kilos | run a /whois magespawn | 06:35 |
| Kilos | did you tell freenode magespawn | 06:37 |
| Kilos | i forget how, was a long job for me | 06:37 |
| magespawn | no i thought you meant to put it in user info in xchat | 06:38 |
| Kilos | maybe you gotta close and open xchat again | 06:38 |
| magespawn | okay brb. | 06:39 |
| Kilos | magespawn, wb | 06:39 |
| Kilos | yay clever fella | 06:39 |
| Kilos | well done | 06:39 |
| Kilos | morning drussell | 06:41 |
| drussell | Kilos: morning :o) | 06:41 |
| nuvolari | mornings o/ | 06:55 |
| Kilos | môre nuvolari | 06:55 |
| Kilos | hi |3o|3 | 07:02 |
| nuvolari | more oom Kilos, hoe gaan dit vanoggend? | 07:06 |
| Kilos | ok dankie nuvolari en daar? | 07:06 |
| magespawn | later all going on a game drive. | 08:19 |
| zeref | ahhhh, eprom,eeprom,mrom, sram dram prom, flash memory, uvprom, so many | 10:33 |
| zeref | memory overload in brain | 10:33 |
| Kilos | sigh this channel keeps shrinking | 12:08 |
| Kilos | we had 45 guys here once | 12:09 |
| Kilos | sigh | 12:09 |
| Vhata | pff | 12:10 |
| Vhata | 00:55 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu-za: Total of 3 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normal] | 12:10 |
| Vhata | I remember when it was just me and linuxboy and ChanServ hanging out in here | 12:11 |
| Kilos | whew musta been tough back then | 12:11 |
| Kilos | no one to share coffee with | 12:11 |
| linuxboy | wow, channel has grown! | 12:16 |
| Kilos | lol hiya linuxboy | 12:16 |
| linuxboy | hi Kilos | 12:16 |
| linuxboy | still getting Maaz to make you tea every morning? | 12:17 |
| Kilos | yeah and often through the day as well | 12:17 |
| Kilos | you well linuxboy | 12:17 |
| Kilos | ? | 12:17 |
| linuxboy | ja | 12:17 |
| linuxboy | you? | 12:17 |
| Kilos | good as well ty | 12:17 |
| linuxboy | just a quick drive by | 12:18 |
| linuxboy | kbe | 12:18 |
| linuxboy | kbye | 12:18 |
| Kilos | whew someone told him to just pop in hey Vhata ? | 12:18 |
| Kilos | too much coincidence otherwise | 12:19 |
| Vhata | he sits behind me | 12:21 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 12:21 |
| Kilos | did you kick him? | 12:21 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:21 |
| Vhata | I showed him what you were saying | 12:21 |
| Kilos | ah | 12:21 |
| superfly | afternoon morgs | 12:55 |
| morgs | hi superfly | 12:56 |
| Kilos | hi morgs | 12:56 |
| morgs | hi Kilos | 12:57 |
| morgs | Odd, my oneiric machine needed manual fdsking after a reboot | 12:58 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn ghostknife | 13:45 |
| nlsthzn | hello again Kilos | 13:46 |
| zeref | hmmmmm | 14:37 |
| zeref | anybody thats using 10.04 or 10.10, tried gnome3? | 14:39 |
| Kilos | have you zeref ? | 14:50 |
| Kilos | you not scared | 14:50 |
| zeref | hi Kilos | 15:00 |
| zeref | have not tried | 15:00 |
| zeref | was wondering whether its stable? | 15:01 |
| Kilos | Maaz, is gnome3 stable in ubuntu lucid | 15:01 |
| Maaz | Kilos: *blink* | 15:01 |
| Kilos | grrr | 15:01 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google is gnome3 stable in ubuntu lucid | 15:02 |
| zeref | lol | 15:02 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "how to install Gnome 3 on ubuntu 10.10-10.04" http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/24/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-10-10-10-04/ :: "how to install GNOME 3 on Ubuntu 11.04" http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/26/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-11-04/ :: "List of Ubuntu releases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases :: "Ubuntu (operating system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http: | 15:02 |
| zeref | have you tried? | 15:02 |
| Kilos | no im scared, and can it be better than gnome 2 anyway | 15:03 |
| Kilos | there must be some reason gor going to unity | 15:03 |
| Kilos | for/gor | 15:03 |
| zeref | yeah, did ubuntu mention why they are forking with gnome3? | 15:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google advantages of gnome3 over gnome2 | 15:04 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "GNOME 3.0 Release Notes" http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.0/ :: "GnomeShell/Design - GNOME Live!" http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/ :: "GNOME - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME :: "What is the disadvantage to XFCE interface as compared GNOME in ..." http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5507 :: "gnome - Why is Ubuntu 11.04 switching to Unity? - Ask Ubuntu ..." http://askubuntu | 15:04 |
| Kilos | i think nl tried it | 15:04 |
| zeref | webs are shapped heavlily now, so cant googles | 15:04 |
| zeref | check after 19:00 | 15:05 |
| zeref | lol | 15:05 |
| Kilos | shaped? | 15:05 |
| Kilos | choked? | 15:05 |
| zeref | yeah | 15:06 |
| Kilos | it sucks hey | 15:06 |
| Kilos | that seacom cable is still out | 15:06 |
| Kilos | i did a clean install of maverick today | 15:07 |
| Kilos | twice actually | 15:07 |
| zeref | yeah, but i've not seem the effects yet, if seasom goes boom, they shape torrents/p2p | 15:07 |
| Kilos | first time saved the /home partition | 15:07 |
| zeref | bu tmy torernts still zoom | 15:07 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:08 |
| zeref | o0o0 | 15:08 |
| zeref | why? | 15:08 |
| Kilos | i had some ugly bug somewhere that wouldnt allow pidgin to work properly | 15:08 |
| Kilos | even with removing and purging | 15:08 |
| zeref | deep | 15:09 |
| Kilos | and reinstalling | 15:09 |
| zeref | clamAV? | 15:09 |
| Kilos | found 2 trojans but i was too doff to save the results | 15:09 |
| Kilos | i use clamtk | 15:09 |
| zeref | ohhh, thought it did that automatically | 15:10 |
| Kilos | one was somewhere in wine and other one deep in /home | 15:10 |
| Kilos | there is a block i ticked to not save them and just deleted | 15:11 |
| zeref | :P | 15:11 |
| zeref | so you lost /home with the 2nd install | 15:12 |
| Kilos | yeah i let it format /home too and prob gone | 15:12 |
| Kilos | luckily i have /var/cache/apt/archives/ rsync ed to an external so dont need to download any packages | 15:16 |
| Kilos | just had to apt-get update | 15:16 |
| zeref | when iturned to linux, i didn't know that if you did a reinstall, linux bombs everything | 15:18 |
| zeref | ohhh, thats was a good idea | 15:18 |
| zeref | btw, why do they call you oom????? | 15:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:19 |
| Kilos | i am 60 | 15:19 |
| zeref | LOL | 15:19 |
| Kilos | yeah and they persist | 15:20 |
| Kilos | hi Conradvo | 15:20 |
| Conradvo | hi | 15:20 |
| zeref | retired? thats why you on here so much :-D | 15:20 |
| Conradvo | im new to this irc chat | 15:21 |
| zeref | welcome :D | 15:21 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za Conradvo | 15:21 |
| Conradvo | thanks | 15:21 |
| Kilos | forced retirement | 15:21 |
| zeref | o0o0 | 15:22 |
| Kilos | had an accident and now am brain dead that why i always need help | 15:22 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:22 |
| zeref | lol | 15:22 |
| Kilos | Conradvo, what OS are you using | 15:22 |
| Conradvo | 11.04 on 7 pc | 15:23 |
| Kilos | great and what client to get here | 15:23 |
| zeref | wait, thats 7 pc's or 11.04 on a win 7 pc? | 15:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:24 |
| Kilos | was thinking about that too zeref | 15:24 |
| Conradvo | it opend in firefox is there a alternitave | 15:24 |
| Kilos | yes get xchat | 15:25 |
| zeref | no | 15:25 |
| zeref | irssi | 15:25 |
| Conradvo | no windows in office | 15:25 |
| zeref | :-D | 15:25 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install aptitude | 15:25 |
| Conradvo | keep craching so replaced all os wit ubuntu +- 10 months ago | 15:25 |
| Kilos | then sudo aptitude install xchat | 15:25 |
| zeref | Conradvo: noce | 15:26 |
| zeref | *nice | 15:26 |
| Kilos | well done Conradvo | 15:26 |
| Conradvo | need to change media center to mythbuntu or? | 15:27 |
| Kilos | what do you want to do Conradvo | 15:28 |
| Kilos | do you know how to use the terminal | 15:28 |
| Conradvo | live tv pvr , music and movies | 15:28 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install vlc | 15:29 |
| Conradvo | installed vlc but need to make it wife proof only remote | 15:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:30 |
| Kilos | bad boy | 15:30 |
| Kilos | get her her own pc | 15:30 |
| Conradvo | have looked at mythbuntu 11.10 in vm but batteled to get mount to connect auto after reboot media on ubuntu server with samba share | 15:31 |
| Kilos | i dont know mythubuntu at all | 15:32 |
| Conradvo | in xchat to witch network do you connect | 15:33 |
| Kilos | freenode | 15:33 |
| Kilos | then after ticking freenode edit button | 15:34 |
| Kilos | type in #ubuntu-za | 15:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:34 |
| Kilos | welcome | 15:34 |
| Kilos | you guys too fast | 15:34 |
| Kilos | zeref, have you tried xchat | 15:35 |
| zeref | nope | 15:36 |
| conrad_ | it work nice | 15:36 |
| zeref | i like my irssi | 15:36 |
| Kilos | i think it rocks | 15:36 |
| conrad_ | i can not wait for 11.10 release | 15:36 |
| conrad_ | irssi is only command lin | 15:38 |
| === conrad_ is now known as conradvo | ||
| Kilos | thats why i like xchat | 15:39 |
| conradvo | witch os do you use kilos | 15:40 |
| Kilos | maverick | 15:41 |
| zeref | conrad, yep | 15:41 |
| Kilos | 10.10 | 15:41 |
| Kilos | isnt it 3 days to wait | 15:41 |
| conradvo | did you see the new community fork of maverick | 15:42 |
| Kilos | no | 15:42 |
| Kilos | what is that? | 15:42 |
| conradvo | mageia is the new os | 15:42 |
| zeref | o0o0 | 15:43 |
| Kilos | since i left windows i have stayed with ubntu | 15:43 |
| Kilos | ubuntu | 15:43 |
| Kilos | tried xubuntu and looked at kubuntu | 15:43 |
| Kilos | will take too muct thinking to change from ubuntu | 15:44 |
| Kilos | much | 15:44 |
| Kilos | my son loves kubuntu | 15:45 |
| conradvo | that is true | 15:45 |
| Kilos | and some of the experts on here too | 15:45 |
| zeref | heheh | 15:45 |
| zeref | debian is awesome as well | 15:45 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:45 |
| conradvo | got to use to gnome used kde on redhat 9 many years ago | 15:45 |
| conradvo | started on mandriva | 15:46 |
| Kilos | what do you do conradvo | 15:46 |
| conradvo | but have been using ubuntu from 8.04 | 15:47 |
| Kilos | good | 15:47 |
| conradvo | general it and erp software design in qt | 15:47 |
| zeref | erp? | 15:47 |
| Kilos | i started with 8.10 because i couldnt get 8.04 to use my phone as a modem | 15:47 |
| zeref | 6.06 LTS | 15:48 |
| zeref | then moved to debian | 15:48 |
| zeref | then back here :P | 15:48 |
| Kilos | ubuntu rocks | 15:49 |
| conradvo | financial soft with all the bells and tricks | 15:49 |
| Kilos | thats a while back hey zeref | 15:49 |
| Kilos | you must be nearly a ballie too | 15:50 |
| zeref | :fear: | 15:50 |
| zeref | 23 :P | 15:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:50 |
| Kilos | wish i coulda started with pcs when i was younger | 15:51 |
| zeref | school teacher introduced us to linux, Mind Blown | 15:51 |
| Kilos | we need more teachers like that | 15:51 |
| Kilos | most are winsucks brainwashed | 15:52 |
| zeref | yeah, SA should start to move to open source | 15:52 |
| zeref | esp schools | 15:52 |
| conradvo | yes windows make you stupid if you can not click the it does not work | 15:52 |
| Kilos | especially now with ms puuling back support | 15:52 |
| zeref | is that for Xp | 15:53 |
| Kilos | the guys had a chat about it a few months ago | 15:53 |
| conradvo | a lot of people still think linux is for nurds an to diff to use i converted a lady of 60 frm vista to 11.04 | 15:54 |
| zeref | lol | 15:54 |
| Kilos | yay | 15:54 |
| zeref | vista was cr*p | 15:54 |
| Kilos | he didnt say old lady so i dont feel bad | 15:54 |
| zeref | used it for like 2 days | 15:54 |
| zeref | lol Kilos | 15:54 |
| zeref | i think ubuntu is the best distribution for newbies | 15:55 |
| zeref | but it not only a newbie desktop, can do some nerdy stuff as well | 15:56 |
| Kilos | i just dont understand why all the varsity peeps dont switch | 15:56 |
| Kilos | do those freedom toaters still work zeref | 15:57 |
| zeref | hmmm, i know for instance in Engineering, there are some digital simulations that work on windows but not in linux | 15:58 |
| zeref | Kilos, yep | 15:58 |
| zeref | but i think for the general students, they can use linux | 15:58 |
| Kilos | i got 9.10 at the pta varsity | 15:58 |
| Kilos | then found out about shipit.com | 15:59 |
| Kilos | now canonical closed it | 15:59 |
| zeref | oh, first time hearing bout that | 16:00 |
| zeref | torrents is how we do | 16:00 |
| Kilos | they used to ship free cd's | 16:01 |
| conradvo | what does shipit.com do killos | 16:01 |
| Kilos | conradvo, when you type a nick just type the first three letters and hit tab | 16:01 |
| conradvo | ok sorry | 16:02 |
| Kilos | np | 16:02 |
| Kilos | i battle with getting some nicks right | 16:02 |
| Kilos | was told about tab and what a relief | 16:02 |
| Kilos | i gotta look at the keyboard when typing | 16:03 |
| zeref | conradvo: ubuntu used to deliver ubuntu cd's for free to users | 16:04 |
| Kilos | one can still get them but now the gotta be ordered by the local groups | 16:05 |
| conradvo | ok now we download them | 16:06 |
| Kilos | and that ya | 16:06 |
| Kilos | bit expensive when using broadband | 16:06 |
| conradvo | witch verson of ubuntu do you need | 16:08 |
| conradvo | i have from 8.04 to 11.10 beta 2 | 16:08 |
| Kilos | my pc cant do unity so i will stay on maverick for a while ty | 16:08 |
| conradvo | have you look at unity 2d | 16:09 |
| Kilos | no, will try it with 11.10 | 16:09 |
| Kilos | 11.04 wasnt too good here with gnome | 16:10 |
| Kilos | gave some probs | 16:10 |
| conradvo | it will be the default fall back desktop on 11.10 | 16:10 |
| Kilos | yes i believe so | 16:11 |
| Kilos | where are you conradvo | 16:11 |
| conradvo | unity 2d work well i have one in the office | 16:11 |
| conradvo | pretoria | 16:12 |
| Kilos | another pta guy | 16:12 |
| Kilos | yay | 16:12 |
| Kilos | we growing | 16:12 |
| Kilos | inetpro, one more pta guy | 16:13 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 16:14 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 16:14 | |
| Kilos | too much chatting, very thirsty now | 16:15 |
| superfly | haha | 16:16 |
| Kilos | lol hiya superfly | 16:17 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 16:17 |
| Kilos | our numbers are growing up here | 16:17 |
| superfly | I see | 16:17 |
| superfly | Cape Town seems to be leaking Ubuntues | 16:18 |
| Kilos | conradvo, meet superfly the python king | 16:18 |
| superfly | *Ubuntuers | 16:18 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:18 |
| superfly | heh, anything but a king | 16:18 |
| Kilos | jou beurt is jou beurt | 16:18 |
| Kilos | ya ya | 16:18 |
| superfly | I'm a Python advocate. | 16:18 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 16:18 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 16:18 |
| Maaz | Enjoy Kilos | 16:18 |
| zeref | hmmmmm | 16:20 |
| zeref | i agree with superfly, python is awesome | 16:23 |
| superfly | A colleague of mine who recently joined the company wasn't particularly pro Python when he joined, and now, a month and a bit after he joined, he can see why everyone who uses Python absolutely loves it. | 16:24 |
| Kilos | hey superfly hows the grass/lawn | 16:25 |
| zeref | yeah, atm learning wxPython | 16:25 |
| zeref | book i'm using is 1000 pages | 16:26 |
| zeref | o0o0 | 16:26 |
| Kilos | eish | 16:26 |
| magespawn | evening | 16:29 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn | 16:29 |
| superfly | Kilos: grpwing well hey | 16:30 |
| superfly | *growing | 16:30 |
| magespawn | hi superfly | 16:30 |
| Kilos | yay | 16:30 |
| magespawn | superfly when is the big move? | 16:31 |
| superfly | magespawn: this weekend | 16:31 |
| superfly | magespawn: er, you talking work or home? | 16:32 |
| Kilos | eish you moving home as well | 16:32 |
| magespawn | you said you were going to be working from home. that one | 16:32 |
| magespawn | but either one really | 16:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:33 |
| magespawn | i wanted to find out if you were going to be self employed at home or just working from home? | 16:34 |
| superfly | magespawn: no, I'll just be working from home | 16:38 |
| superfly | Kilos: yes, not far, about a km away | 16:38 |
| Kilos | eish what about the grass | 16:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:39 |
| Kilos | dig it up and take it with | 16:39 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, I need to leave it. The garden had grass before we got the stupid canine | 16:47 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 16:47 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 16:47 |
| Kilos | 0/ | 16:48 |
| magespawn | howdy all back again | 16:57 |
| Kilos | wb | 16:58 |
| magespawn | i didn't catch the answers if there were any | 16:59 |
| Kilos | <superfly> magespawn: no, I'll just be working from home | 17:00 |
| magespawn | nah that one i got. but not for the last two | 17:01 |
| Kilos | lol about the grass | 17:01 |
| Kilos | <superfly> Kilos: no, I need to leave it. The garden had grass before we got the stupid canine | 17:01 |
| magespawn | nah the one about does any here blog regularly and superfly do you connect your n900 to ubuntu? | 17:02 |
| Kilos | i dont see that | 17:03 |
| superfly | magespawn: yes, but usually just for the storage device | 17:03 |
| magespawn | maybe it did not go through, would explain the lack of response. | 17:03 |
| magespawn | superfly have you seen KMobileTools? | 17:04 |
| superfly | maybe in passing | 17:04 |
| magespawn | have any one here used things like pands boards? pandaboards.org | 17:07 |
| superfly | magespawn: that URL does not resolve | 17:09 |
| * superfly is busy figuring out how to do facial recognition in Python | 17:12 | |
| magespawn | sorry pandaboard.org | 17:14 |
| magespawn | why? | 17:14 |
| superfly | need it for work | 17:16 |
| superfly | people uploading profile pictures, and I need to crop them | 17:16 |
| magespawn | bbl putting daughter to bed | 17:18 |
| magespawn | back daughter in bed | 17:35 |
| magespawn | bb just switching to the laptop | 17:39 |
| magespawn | howdy all | 17:47 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 17:47 |
| magespawn | ty | 17:49 |
| * magespawn does not know enough python to be able to help | 17:50 | |
| magespawn | superfly how did you learn? | 17:50 |
| magespawn | Kilos do you know how to program? | 17:51 |
| superfly | magespawn: Python? | 17:51 |
| magespawn | yup | 17:51 |
| superfly | I started two big projects :-) | 17:51 |
| Kilos | no magespawn im a mechanic and farmer | 17:51 |
| superfly | I like to dive into the deep end :-D | 17:51 |
| magespawn | superfly so the deep end then | 17:52 |
| magespawn | did you look at the pandboard.org? | 17:52 |
| superfly | nope, rather busy - I'll have a look just now | 17:53 |
| magespawn | Kilos what kind of farming? | 17:53 |
| magespawn | me to superfly. did you learn other languages first? | 17:53 |
| Kilos | merino sheep jersey cows and crops | 17:53 |
| superfly | I did, for various reasons, but if I'd known about Python, I would have learned it sooner and instead of other languages | 17:54 |
| magespawn | no worries. | 17:54 |
| Kilos | and near two years of managing beef farm | 17:54 |
| magespawn | if you dive into the shallow end you smack your head hard. | 17:54 |
| superfly | magespawn: before becoming a Python developer, I was a PHP developer | 17:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:55 |
| superfly | but I also have a working knowledge of C++, C# and Delphi | 17:55 |
| superfly | and I've also programmed in Java and Assembler | 17:55 |
| superfly | s/Assembler/Assembly Language/ | 17:56 |
| magespawn | i know a little html and css that got me interested in python and perl. | 17:56 |
| superfly | I can make people believe I can code in Perl | 17:56 |
| superfly | oh, yeah, I know HTML and CSS, but they aren't programming languages | 17:57 |
| magespawn | how so? | 17:57 |
| superfly | Oh, I also know COBOL and NATURAL | 17:57 |
| superfly | magespawn: you don't write programs using HTML or CSS | 17:57 |
| magespawn | i know marginally more about game farming than about stock | 17:57 |
| superfly | and CSS itself specifically is not even a markup language, it doesn't exist outside of HTML | 17:57 |
| octoquad | evening all :) | 18:24 |
| Kilos | hi there octoquad | 18:24 |
| octoquad | hey Kilos | 18:24 |
| octoquad | superfly: I see the problem persists | 18:25 |
| superfly | hi octoquad | 18:26 |
| Kilos | hi JabberwockyA19 | 18:26 |
| superfly | I'm afraid I haven't had a chance to look into it further | 18:26 |
| superfly | things have been crazy here | 18:26 |
| JabberwockyA19 | hallo oom Kilos :) | 18:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:27 |
| octoquad | no problem, that's why I'm back, to try and fix it hehe | 18:27 |
| Kilos | night everyone. sleep tight. see you tomorrow | 19:27 |
| tumbleweed | whee, fun day on ubuntu-devel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-October/034208.html etc. | 19:31 |
| superfly | evening tumbleweed | 19:32 |
| tumbleweed | hi | 19:32 |
| superfly | hey tumbleweed, how long do you think it would take for me to get an app into Debian? | 19:33 |
| * superfly sees the DebianImportFreeze is in December, and is wondering if November+December is enough time | 19:34 | |
| tumbleweed | sycing to ubutnu after DIF is not a problem, but doing it after FF requires paperwork | 19:35 |
| tumbleweed | also, get it in sooner, you can always upload updates | 19:35 |
| tumbleweed | as to how long, that depends on the quality, and how much you prod me to review it, or how fast you find another interested sponsor | 19:35 |
| tumbleweed | < a week is totally doable | 19:36 |
| superfly | OK | 19:36 |
| superfly | I'm gonna be on leave in November, I'm gonna try for then. | 19:36 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: would you be willing to look at our existing PPA package and maybe give some pointers as to what we might need to do? | 19:37 |
| tumbleweed | sure | 19:37 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: https://launchpad.net/~openlp-core/+archive/release | 19:38 |
| superfly | Thanks :-) | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: the packaging generally looks a little dated, and could use some polish | 19:45 |
| tumbleweed | but its nice and simple | 19:46 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: cocooncrash started us off, and I've just continued little bit by little bit where needed | 19:52 |
| zeref | hmmmmm | 20:03 |
| zeref | superfly, if you want to start developing for ubuntu, what steps should you take? | 20:04 |
| superfly | zeref: in what way, getting a package into Ubuntu, or just developing for Linux in general? | 20:05 |
| tumbleweed | zeref: do you have anything in particular that you want to work on, or do you just want to contribute? | 20:07 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: heh, yeah, looks like his style (and my ibid packaging started from cocooncrash-packaging, too) | 20:07 |
| zeref | just developing in linux in general | 20:09 |
| superfly | zeref: you can start anywhere, really | 20:10 |
| superfly | zeref: though it might be a good idea to rather find a project you like, and start contributing there | 20:10 |
| zeref | kk | 20:11 |
| tumbleweed | zeref: Ubuntu is realeasing later this week, but we're still interested in looking for last minute release critical bug fixes for packages that aren't on CDs, if you're interested | 20:11 |
| tumbleweed | offer expires in 24hours or so, though :P | 20:11 |
| zeref | LOL | 20:12 |
| tumbleweed | seriously. http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ I found a handful of easy ones yesterday. There's still some time left | 20:13 |
| zeref | hmmm, essentially this is what i want to do, when i'm done with my studies | 20:24 |
| zeref | so read up, read up and read up | 20:24 |
| zeref | soon...... | 20:24 |
| tumbleweed | that sounds way too sensible. I'm letting it get in the way of my studies... | 20:27 |
| * superfly agrees with tumbleweed ;-) | 20:33 | |
| magespawn | now it lets me back on | 20:48 |
| magespawn | night all. | 20:53 |
| zeref | hmmm | 21:31 |
| zeref | anybody tried linux Mint? | 21:32 |
| nlsthzn | zeref: mint is cool | 21:44 |
| zeref | how'd you compare to teh buntu | 21:49 |
| zeref | i've read some posts that suggest that, there are less bugs in it. | 21:49 |
| nlsthzn | zeref: I don't know about less bugs, the main edition of Mint is built on top of Ubuntu | 21:51 |
| zeref | true, i'll try it out on VM, | 21:53 |
| nlsthzn | That is the best way :) | 21:53 |
| nlsthzn | Try and make up your own mind :) | 21:53 |
| zeref | yeah, if i dont like, 12.04's interface, i think i'll be moving to a new distro | 21:54 |
| zeref | gnome 2.xx is too awesome | 21:54 |
| nlsthzn | Well Mint won't be on 2.x for too long either... it isn't being maintained so they will also have to shift to Gnome 3... eventually... | 21:55 |
| tumbleweed | you can't blame distros for not liking gnome 3 | 21:55 |
| tumbleweed | and you can still get gnome panel (gnome 2) in modern ubuntu | 21:56 |
| nlsthzn | well, for a little while still | 21:56 |
| tumbleweed | for as long as people maintain it | 21:56 |
| nlsthzn | tumbleweed: what people? | 21:57 |
| zeref | us | 21:58 |
| tumbleweed | gnome people, and the gnome maintainers in debian and ubuntu | 21:58 |
| nlsthzn | Well my knowledge is limited on the comings and goings but there isn't any Classic mode for Ubuntu 11.10 except the Gnome-shell fallback mode... | 21:59 |
| tumbleweed | still there, if you have the right packages installed | 22:01 |
| nlsthzn | well I will take your word for it then... as I have not seen anyone doing this, just a lot of people complaining they wish they could... | 22:03 |
| tumbleweed | people love complaining :) | 22:09 |
| nlsthzn | +1 to that :) | 22:10 |
| tumbleweed | and, I think ubuntu probably released unity too soon. canonical still has to work out how to handle projects like that in cycle with Ubuntu | 22:11 |
| nlsthzn | the feeling I got is "grand scale beta testing" | 22:12 |
| Tonberry | its a beta but don't tell anyone | 22:13 |
| zeref | lol | 22:13 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 22:14 |
| tumbleweed | nlsthzn: thing is, it happened again this cycle | 22:14 |
| tumbleweed | a week ago, it was still pretty unstable. Much better now, though | 22:14 |
| Tonberry | not something i would release if given the choice... | 22:15 |
| nlsthzn | tumbleweed: well as far as stability goes I am using natty with unity and it is stable... got a few bugs for sure but no issues in usebility ... I am expecting Oneiric to be even better... | 22:15 |
| Tonberry | define stable? | 22:16 |
| Tonberry | fine it rarely crashes anymore | 22:16 |
| nlsthzn | mine hasn't crashed in ages... I have closed the wrong windows because of focus issues but that is just annoying :p | 22:17 |
| Tonberry | but i find it hard to keer unity running for more than a week or so before things start getting wobbly and the memory leaks start getting noticeably large | 22:17 |
| zeref | a friends of mine said that unity is moving towards the apple interface | 22:17 |
| Tonberry | i don't mind the looks | 22:18 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, hasn't crashed on me in a few days, either | 22:18 |
| zeref | next thing desktop is going to look like an iphone | 22:18 |
| Tonberry | but we once forgot a gnome 2 computer on for 180 days and it was still going strong | 22:18 |
| Tonberry | unity would kill itself long before that | 22:18 |
| zeref | but over time Unity will become just a strong as gnome 2.xx | 22:19 |
| Tonberry | how much time? | 22:19 |
| zeref | o0o0 | 22:19 |
| zeref | 2 years prob | 22:20 |
| zeref | maybe by 12.10 | 22:20 |
| Tonberry | 6 months with windows looking more stable than ubuntu has left me slightly grumpy about the whole thing | 22:20 |
| nlsthzn | Well, I have faith that Ubunut can pull this off... I feel they have done an amazing job already... | 22:20 |
| zeref | unity was a surprize, even for ubuntu-devel | 22:21 |
| zeref | lol | 22:21 |
| zeref | suddenly Unity | 22:22 |
| nlsthzn | nobody expects the spanish inquisition | 22:22 |
| superfly | KDE works fine :-P | 23:07 |
| nlsthzn | superfly: :p | 23:10 |
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