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ElderDryasI Found It!!!00:17
ElderDryasTurning on the GNOME services causes my laptop to drop a Blue Screen (Not Of Death) over the screen after login (which is automatic).00:19
ElderDryasOnly took me a week :(00:19
charlie-tcaglad you found it, finally :)00:24
ElderDryasWonder why? (the screen, not why so long, I know that, I'm ignorant :)00:25
charlie-tcaapparently gnome hates us?00:25
ElderDryasThere are times I want my Apple ][ back00:28
ElderDryascharlie-tca: any chance you can confirm this?00:28
charlie-tcano, I don't install gnome if I can avoid it00:28
charlie-tcaI try for as little gnome stuff as possible here00:29
ElderDryaswell, Sessions and Startup>Advanced>click Launch GNOME services on startup is what causes it for me00:30
ElderDryasoh well....00:31
charlie-tcaREally?00:33
charlie-tcaFile the bug, I will try to confirm while testing this week.00:33
ElderDryasyup, that's whay I hoped you could confirm/deny it before I head over to bug HQ00:33
ElderDryasWonder why rythmbox always wants a reboot after install...back in a minute...unless something else goes wrong00:35
* ElderDryas beats his head against the desk L(00:36
* ElderDryas sticks his head out the window...maybe it's full moon...nope.00:39
charlie-tcaheh, I did the wall-to-head thing yesterday. It did not really help much00:40
ElderDryasNow rhythmbox has no straming/radio00:41
ElderDryasAnd it hurts more when the hair has gone00:41
charlie-tcaI could see the hurt more thing, sure. ;)00:43
charlie-tcanoted desk instead of wall, too.00:44
ElderDryasWell, the desk is oak...drywall dents and then my wife makes me fix it00:44
charlie-tcadrywall is softer, though00:46
ElderDryasI quit for the night :(00:49
zusALMOST!!!!! grrrr04:11
zusanyone using xchat and have OP, ban kick buttons options up?04:13
zushmm wrong chat... /:)04:15
zenroxi have them04:15
zenroxlol04:15
zenroxhehehe04:15
zusim having font issue, and half the labels are off wont fit on the screen04:15
zenroxchange the font04:16
zenroxin xchat04:16
zusthing is  i was using the default font , and had only  installed my  nvidia drivers04:16
zusmenu items are Teeny tiny, right clicks for cut n paste is  huger,04:17
zenroxhmm04:17
zusscreen in "where were reading" is normal, but tabs for channels are huger04:17
zenroxmaby your screen size in nvida drivers needs to be set up right04:19
zusmaybe,  but i dont see anything out of the ordinary, res1440X90004:19
zenroxhmm04:19
zuswell zenrox  thanks though, im going to go to the  channel i meant to ask in. :)04:24
raevolanyone know how to select the default output device for pulseaudio?05:31
Sysiwith pavucontrol05:32
raevolso in that i see i can set a "fallback" but is there a way to set a default that i am not seeing?05:32
raevolor is that the same thing?05:33
Sysijust selecting output device should work05:34
raevoli found a solution in paprefs to output to all devices simultaneously05:34
raevolthanks though!05:34
xubuntu742bonjour a tous08:33
xubuntu742je suis en train de faire une installe  de xubuntu08:33
bazhang!fr08:33
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.08:33
xubuntu742ok sorry08:34
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joeseppCan anyone help with Keyboard Layouts panel applet?11:12
joeseppit doesn't remeber the default layout, nor the key combination to change layout after reboot.11:13
joeseppoverall there is a problem with shortcut keys11:14
joeseppanyone?11:16
Mahyhi there, I've got one question. Can somebody please tell me, whether or not the new upcoming Xubuntu release (11.10) provides a tool to switch keyboard layouts (either by mouseclick or a keybord shortcut)? THX in advance. Mahy.11:22
joeseppMahy: are you using one now?11:24
MahyATM I'm using plain Gnome Ubuntu 10.1011:24
joeseppMahy: there is a plugin (xfce4-xkb-plugin) for that right now11:26
joeseppMahy: actually i had a question before about the plugin cos' it's not remembering the shortcut to change the layout11:28
joeseppMahy: but mouseclick works fine11:28
Mahyjoesepp: thanks a lot, I'll give that plugin a try. Much better than editing xorg.conf. Not that I'm opposed to editing config files in general, but this shoul be supported by the GUI desktop11:31
joeseppMahy: you're welcome11:34
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blackmothhi! i have a question regarding the swap after xubuntu installation..anyone can help?14:48
Sysiyou could've just ask14:49
blackmothmy problem is..during pre installation i made a swap partition of 4gb then once the installation was done my swap partition is gone?14:50
blackmothi tried to swapon -a but it cannot locate the swap partition?14:50
blackmothi reinstalled twice already still no swap partition...also when i open gparted before trying the to install again the swap partition was deleted?14:51
blackmothany thoughts of this? thanks14:52
Sysiwhat partitioning option did you use, custom? (and why do you need 4GB swap)14:52
blackmothyeah14:53
blackmothcustom partition14:53
Sysiif you run 'cat /etc/fstab | grep swap' do you get anything?14:53
Sysimaybe sudo cat14:53
blackmothdoes setting a swap to 4gb would cause that problem?14:53
Sysishouldn't14:54
SysiI just wonder how you're gonna use it14:54
blackmoth# swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation14:55
blackmoth#UUID=5fad553a-1af4-4330-92aa-848df3050355 none            swap    sw              0       014:55
blackmoth/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 014:55
blackmothi get that result14:55
Sysihum, say it's created but still commented out14:55
Sysiencryption might has something to do with that..14:56
blackmothalso during installation forgot which one there was a permission problem...14:57
blackmothis there a log during installation so i could scan it?14:57
blackmothalso when i check on gparted the 4gb swap partition was deleted and reduced to 1.7gb or something15:00
charlie-tcaum, noted...15:00
charlie-tcahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview#Boot.2C_installation_and_post-install15:00
charlie-tcasee second item15:01
charlie-tcablackmoth: bug 70936315:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 709363 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "swap partition disappeared during installation" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70936315:02
blackmothi see15:02
blackmothwhats the work around?15:02
blackmothmaybe setting it to 2gb instead of 4?15:02
charlie-tcaappears to be a possible workaround in comment #15 of the bug. However, if you can reproduce, try what the developer asked in comment #7, please. There is no official fix or workaround because the devs could not reproduce the issue15:05
blackmothok ill try to fiddle with it a bit.. thanks for the link15:07
charlie-tcaYou are welcome. Any help with debugging that thing would be really useful.15:08
Boscophi16:17
BoscopI had two partitions on my hard drive (sda1: windows 7, sda2: windows xp). I wanted to install xubuntu instead of windows 7 and during the installation I chose to split the first partition into a 4GB swap partition and the main one. after successful installation of xubuntu grub showed that sda2 contained windows 7 (which isn't true since it contains win xp. maybe it got confused because I had I installed windows 7 first and then xp, s16:24
Boscoplecting the "windows 7" entry in grub) I got an error "file missing or corrupted: c:\windows\system32\hal.dll". I used the recovery cd to execute "expand d:\i386\hal.dl_ c:\windows\system32" (which replaced the hal.dll file) but the error persisted. my guess is that the hal.dll file is alright but the windows bootloader is corrupted. neither the windows 7 cd nor the windows xp cd were able to repair it. currently I cannot boot into xu16:25
Boscop(I also tried fixmbr and fixboot inthe recovery console)16:25
charlie-tcaBoscop: I suspect the windows 7 takes priority over XP, and in trying to remove it, perhaps the entire partition sda1 did not get used, resulting in XP moving to sda316:29
blackmothhi i did reproduce the installation and followed the instruction on #7 on swap bug16:29
blackmothregistering right now to upload the file16:30
blackmothany dev around?16:30
charlie-tcablackmoth: thank you very much. I will look at it as soon as you are done16:30
blackmothok16:30
Boscopcharlie-tca: yes, since the first partition got split into two, XP is now on the third, but it doesn't know it16:31
blackmothi have two files the debuglog during the installation and the syslog after installation16:31
blackmothshould i upload the two?16:31
Boscopcharlie-tca: how can I fix it?16:31
charlie-tcaBoscop: I suspect you have to reinstall xp16:32
charlie-tcablackmoth: yes, please16:32
Boscopcharlie-tca: oh no, not again :( I already had to reinstall it twice16:33
charlie-tcadid you find xp yet?16:34
charlie-tcamaybe examine the partitions using gparted, it should show what the ntfs partitions are16:34
focalthey guys16:35
focaltI need some advice16:35
Boscopcharlie-tca: http://pastebin.com/cay467pT16:35
focaltI found a old computer16:35
charlie-tcafocalt: use it?16:35
BoscopXP still seems to be on sda216:35
focalta pentiumIII16:35
focaltcharlie-tca, but I have bios coded, and usb ports don't recognize pen drives...16:36
focalthoe can I install xubuntu?16:36
focalton it16:36
charlie-tcaBoscop: it does. Let me see if I can find a reference to try and fix it16:36
charlie-tcafocalt: use a cd drive?16:36
Boscopcharlie-tca: thanks16:36
charlie-tcaI use cd s on all my systems. I think I have one out of five might boot from usb now16:37
focaltcharlie-tca, but how can I set boot order to cd drive, if I have no access to bios?16:38
charlie-tcaBoscop: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringWindows16:41
charlie-tcafocalt: why no bios access?16:41
charlie-tcatry hitting ins, del, F2, F7, F10, F11, F12 on boot?16:41
blackmothcharlie: only one attachment per comment in the comment section?16:42
charlie-tcaDepending on the manufacturer, I have computers that use all of those to enter bios16:42
blackmothcharlie: only one attachment allowed per comment in the comment section?16:42
charlie-tcablackmoth: yes, sorry16:42
blackmothok16:42
charlie-tcaGot to make two entries for two attachments16:42
focaltcharlie-tca, it asks a password16:42
charlie-tcafocalt: I see. Then you should look the thing up in google and find "how to clear cmos"16:43
charlie-tcathere will be a jumper on the motherboard, most of the time16:43
blackmothis he using a laptop?16:44
blackmothif its desktop just take out the battery and re insert16:44
focaltcharlie-tca, thanks16:45
Boscopcharlie-tca: I already copied the hal.dll from the cd. and btw there is no hal.dll in my c:\windows\system32\dllcache16:45
charlie-tcaGood luck. I managed to find all of the old systems I gained, but it took some digging for at least one of them16:46
charlie-tcamaybe something in16:46
charlie-tca!grub16:46
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)16:46
charlie-tcawould help, since the system is not seeing the right things in grub?16:46
blackmothum charlie sorry about the double post on the comments16:50
blackmotham having isp problems right now16:51
blackmothyou could erase comment  1916:51
charlie-tcaNo problem, we can work around it.16:51
charlie-tcaI can't remove it, but we can put a note in that it is the same as...16:51
charlie-tcaI see comment 18, 19, 20, all three are the same log file?16:54
blackmothyeah16:54
blackmothwhat does it says on 20?16:54
blackmothsyslog?16:54
blackmothwoah sorry about that16:55
blackmotham still upload the syslog16:55
blackmoth18 ,19,20 are the same file16:55
Boscopcharlie-tca: I found this article: http://www.comitservices.com/wp/?p=12 my boot.ini looks like this: http://pastebin.com/9L8fQ4sV is the 'partition(2)' correct? I can't run DISKPART now, so I don't know how which nr that partition will have in windows, but maybe you can deduce that from the 'fdisk -l' output I pasted above?16:55
charlie-tcaIt's okay, I know to say they are the same, by mistake16:56
blackmothits because my isp right now is so slow...so i have to wait for the upload to load...i think i pressed the post comment twice16:57
Boscopcharlie-tca: in the 'fdisk -l' output, sda2 is the 2nd partition, so it should work (right?), but it doesn't.16:58
blackmothcharlie could i send you the syslog here? it seems faster...my browsing speed right now is very slow16:59
charlie-tcaBoscop: not having touched windows in years, I don't know if it is c: or d:, but sda2 is the second partition. However, I question if XP might be found instead on sdb1 or sdc1, both identified as windows partitions17:00
charlie-tcasdb1 would be D:, and sdc1 would be e:, I think17:01
Boscopcharlie-tca: no, they weren't plugged in then. they are external disks17:01
charlie-tcahm, under the rules for grub in older versions, sda1 == 0, sda2 == 1. Maybe try changing the partition to 1 for xp in grub?17:03
blackmothhmm i cant upload the 4mb syslog..my internet connection right now is very freaking slow17:05
blackmothbtw charlie what was the command again for checking the UUID for the swap partition?17:06
blackmoththe one you gave me earlier17:06
Boscopcharlie-tca: grub is corrupted now that I ran fixmbr and fixboot. I'll have to reinstall grub later. the question is, what should I put in the boot.ini file?17:09
charlie-tcanothiung17:09
charlie-tcait is using grub2, which builds the file itself.17:10
Boscopcharlie-tca: right now grub doesn't show up when I boot17:11
Boscopcharlie-tca: so I can't even boot into xubuntu17:12
charlie-tcahold down the rightshift after bios checks. It should show up17:12
Boscopcharlie-tca: and then just reinstall grub from within xubuntu and it should fix boot.ini accordingly?17:14
blackmothill upload the syslog tomorrow once my isp problem is fix17:15
charlie-tcayup17:20
charlie-tcablackmoth: okay17:20
charlie-tcaBoscop: yes, to the best of my knowledge17:20
blackmothhmm i tried to open the fstab and found out that the uuid of the swap was commented?17:21
Boscopcharlie-tca: if that doesn't work, would it help to delete the swap partition so that I only have two again?17:22
Boscop(I guess not, since the new partitions were appended at the end)17:22
charlie-tcaBoscop: probably not, that usually makes it harder to straighten out17:22
Boscopok17:22
blackmoth# swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation17:24
blackmoth#UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none            swap    sw              0       017:24
blackmoth/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 017:24
blackmothcharlie should i uncomment the swap uuid and comment on /dev?17:24
charlie-tcaI don't know17:25
charlie-tcalooks like uncomment the uuid line and leave the other one alone17:26
blackmothtried to reproduce the instruction on # 1517:26
charlie-tcaI would try that first. If it doesn't work, then comment the /dev line]17:27
charlie-tcaI would try that first. If it doesn't work, then comment the /dev line :(17:27
blackmothi tried17:27
blackmoth# swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation17:27
blackmoth#UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none            swap    sw              0       017:27
blackmoth/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 017:27
blackmothopps17:27
blackmothswapon: cannot find the device for UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d73317:27
blackmothstill cant find the device17:27
blackmothdoes this problem only occur if you set the swap file above 2gb during installation?17:28
charlie-tcaDid you uncomment the uuid line?17:28
charlie-tcaalso, make sure the uuid is correct17:28
blackmothhow to check for the uuid?17:29
blackmoththat uuid was already on the fstab17:29
charlie-tcablackmoth: no, it happens for the encrypted drive. It doesn't care how big/small the swap file is17:29
charlie-tcayou have to verify the uuid is correct for sdb617:30
blackmothhow?17:30
charlie-tcaopen a terminal and type       blkid17:30
charlie-tcasee what it says17:30
blackmothsdb6 doesnt show in blkid17:31
blackmoth# swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation17:31
blackmoth#UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none            swap    sw              0       017:31
charlie-tcaokay, then try ls /dev/disk/by-uuid17:31
blackmoththats the original in the fstab before uncommenting it17:31
charlie-tcamy mistake17:32
charlie-tcain terminal,       ls -lA /dev/disk/by-uuid17:32
charlie-tcawill give all the drives by sd?? and uuid17:32
blackmothyeah only three17:33
blackmothbut not for the sdb617:33
blackmoththis is the output17:34
blackmoth3b33ccb1-f758-4ebb-83ac-a76e79afa147  48A1499124D60B5Db36d99ff-0980-446d-ac6e-b8337b7388e517:34
blackmoththen the output of blkid is17:34
blackmoth/dev/sda4: LABEL="UniStorage" UUID="48A1499124D60B5D" TYPE="ntfs"17:34
blackmoth/dev/sda5: UUID="b36d99ff-0980-446d-ac6e-b8337b7388e5" TYPE="ext4"17:34
blackmoth/dev/sda7: UUID="3b33ccb1-f758-4ebb-83ac-a76e79afa147" TYPE="ext4"17:34
blackmothsdb6 doesnt show up17:34
charlie-tcacomment it out completely in /etc/fstab then17:34
charlie-tcaIt should work until the bug gets figured out17:35
blackmothi tried already17:35
charlie-tcaIt seems maybe it did not even create the partition properly17:35
blackmothi comment it out17:35
blackmoththen comment the /dev17:35
blackmothbut during swap on17:36
blackmothswapon: cannot find the device for UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d73317:36
blackmothalso during the installation i saw a command to wipe out swap space for security reasons....is that normal?17:37
blackmothcharlie17:39
blackmothsdb6 shows up on fdisk -l17:40
blackmothalso during the installation i saw a command to wipe out swap space for security reasons....is that normal?17:41
charlie-tcaswap-on won't find it because it can't find the partition17:43
charlie-tcayes, is normal to see it wipe space17:43
blackmothah ok17:43
charlie-tcasdb6 might show up, but it still isn't formatted right to be used17:43
blackmothhmm so can i run a live usb and format it again with gparted?17:44
charlie-tcaYou can try, I don't know if it will work, though.17:44
blackmothhmm let me try17:45
blackmothbrb17:45
blackmothcharlie17:54
blackmothit worked17:54
blackmothi think i found out the problem17:54
charlie-tcaGreat!17:54
charlie-tcaproblem is???17:54
blackmothwhen i checked gparted the 4gb i assigned to swap reduce to 3.9gb and the format is unknown17:55
blackmoththe installation somewhat corrupted the swap file17:55
charlie-tcaYes, it messes up the formatting for reasons yet to determined.17:55
blackmothit writes something on the swap file? since it used up about 100mb kish17:56
charlie-tcaThat's why they need those logs. They can't find why it is doing that17:56
blackmothcan i send you the log here?17:57
charlie-tcaOf course, if it happened to everybody, it would be so much easier17:57
charlie-tcano17:57
blackmothill try to upload it17:57
blackmothseems internet is doing fine17:57
charlie-tcaevery partition has a small amount used to set itself up17:57
charlie-tcaGreat! I already notified the developer that you are adding the logs.17:58
brunomedeirosHi all17:58
blackmothok17:58
brunomedeirosFirst time here on this channel!17:58
charlie-tca!hi | brunomedeiros17:59
ubottubrunomedeiros: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!17:59
charlie-tcaWelcome to our little support channel18:00
Boscopcharlie-tca: in grub when I run 'grub> find /boot/grub/stage1' I get this error 'Error 15: File not found'.18:00
Boscopcharlie-tca: I'm following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435118:01
charlie-tcaBoscop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#File_Not_Found_.28Error_15.2918:02
charlie-tcaexplains how to fix that18:02
BoscopI got this error _while_ reinstalling grub from a live cd.18:04
Boscop(in fact, I haven't been able to reinstall it yet, due to this error)18:04
Boscopso how will reinstalling from a live cd fix this?18:04
blackmothcharlie: done upload the syslog18:06
charlie-tcaBoscop: the guide you are following is from 2006. It will not work for grub218:06
charlie-tcaPlease use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 for anything after 200918:07
Boscopcharlie-tca: also, when running upgrade-from-grub-legacy I get '/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub'18:07
charlie-tcaBoscop: the guide you are following is from 2006. It will not work for grub218:07
charlie-tcaYou are using an obsolete guide, which references files not use by grub218:07
charlie-tcablackmoth: thank you18:08
blackmothno problem.. hope this bug will be fix soon18:08
charlie-tcaMe too.18:08
blackmothok have to go now...ill check the bug section for an update tomorrow...bye18:10
blackmoththank you for your time18:10
charlie-tcayou are welcome18:14
Boscopcharlie-tca: ok, I reinstalled grub now using boot-repair but it doesn't seem to modify boot.ini18:23
salisi ahve problem with aircrakc-ng suite when i use aireplay i get a message tha card is on difrent channel than ap is.. some1 here have an idia?22:31
rsyringIs there a Places panel item in 11.04?22:42
rsyringI mean, I don't see it in the list, do I have to do something special to get it to show up?22:43
GridCubersyring, there is a kind of places but it works different22:55
GridCubeyou can, though, make one manually22:56

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