[00:17] <ElderDryas> I Found It!!!
[00:19] <ElderDryas> Turning on the GNOME services causes my laptop to drop a Blue Screen (Not Of Death) over the screen after login (which is automatic).
[00:19] <ElderDryas> Only took me a week :(
[00:24] <charlie-tca> glad you found it, finally :)
[00:25] <ElderDryas> Wonder why? (the screen, not why so long, I know that, I'm ignorant :)
[00:25] <charlie-tca> apparently gnome hates us?
[00:28] <ElderDryas> There are times I want my Apple ][ back
[00:28] <ElderDryas> charlie-tca: any chance you can confirm this?
[00:28] <charlie-tca> no, I don't install gnome if I can avoid it
[00:29] <charlie-tca> I try for as little gnome stuff as possible here
[00:30] <ElderDryas> well, Sessions and Startup>Advanced>click Launch GNOME services on startup is what causes it for me
[00:31] <ElderDryas> oh well....
[00:33] <charlie-tca> REally?
[00:33] <charlie-tca> File the bug, I will try to confirm while testing this week.
[00:33] <ElderDryas> yup, that's whay I hoped you could confirm/deny it before I head over to bug HQ
[00:35] <ElderDryas> Wonder why rythmbox always wants a reboot after install...back in a minute...unless something else goes wrong
[00:36]  * ElderDryas beats his head against the desk L(
[00:39]  * ElderDryas sticks his head out the window...maybe it's full moon...nope.
[00:40] <charlie-tca> heh, I did the wall-to-head thing yesterday. It did not really help much
[00:41] <ElderDryas> Now rhythmbox has no straming/radio
[00:41] <ElderDryas> And it hurts more when the hair has gone
[00:43] <charlie-tca> I could see the hurt more thing, sure. ;)
[00:44] <charlie-tca> noted desk instead of wall, too.
[00:44] <ElderDryas> Well, the desk is oak...drywall dents and then my wife makes me fix it
[00:46] <charlie-tca> drywall is softer, though
[00:49] <ElderDryas> I quit for the night :(
[04:11] <zus> ALMOST!!!!! grrrr
[04:13] <zus> anyone using xchat and have OP, ban kick buttons options up?
[04:15] <zus> hmm wrong chat... /:)
[04:15] <zenrox> i have them
[04:15] <zenrox> lol
[04:15] <zenrox> hehehe
[04:15] <zus> im having font issue, and half the labels are off wont fit on the screen
[04:16] <zenrox> change the font
[04:16] <zenrox> in xchat
[04:16] <zus> thing is  i was using the default font , and had only  installed my  nvidia drivers
[04:17] <zus> menu items are Teeny tiny, right clicks for cut n paste is  huger,
[04:17] <zenrox> hmm
[04:17] <zus> screen in "where were reading" is normal, but tabs for channels are huger
[04:19] <zenrox> maby your screen size in nvida drivers needs to be set up right
[04:19] <zus> maybe,  but i dont see anything out of the ordinary, res1440X900
[04:19] <zenrox> hmm
[04:24] <zus> well zenrox  thanks though, im going to go to the  channel i meant to ask in. :)
[05:31] <raevol> anyone know how to select the default output device for pulseaudio?
[05:32] <Sysi> with pavucontrol
[05:32] <raevol> so in that i see i can set a "fallback" but is there a way to set a default that i am not seeing?
[05:33] <raevol> or is that the same thing?
[05:34] <Sysi> just selecting output device should work
[05:34] <raevol> i found a solution in paprefs to output to all devices simultaneously
[05:34] <raevol> thanks though!
[08:33] <xubuntu742> bonjour a tous
[08:33] <xubuntu742> je suis en train de faire une installe  de xubuntu
[08:33] <bazhang> !fr
[08:34] <xubuntu742> ok sorry
[11:12] <joesepp> Can anyone help with Keyboard Layouts panel applet?
[11:13] <joesepp> it doesn't remeber the default layout, nor the key combination to change layout after reboot.
[11:14] <joesepp> overall there is a problem with shortcut keys
[11:16] <joesepp> anyone?
[11:22] <Mahy> hi there, I've got one question. Can somebody please tell me, whether or not the new upcoming Xubuntu release (11.10) provides a tool to switch keyboard layouts (either by mouseclick or a keybord shortcut)? THX in advance. Mahy.
[11:24] <joesepp> Mahy: are you using one now?
[11:24] <Mahy> ATM I'm using plain Gnome Ubuntu 10.10
[11:26] <joesepp> Mahy: there is a plugin (xfce4-xkb-plugin) for that right now
[11:28] <joesepp> Mahy: actually i had a question before about the plugin cos' it's not remembering the shortcut to change the layout
[11:28] <joesepp> Mahy: but mouseclick works fine
[11:31] <Mahy> joesepp: thanks a lot, I'll give that plugin a try. Much better than editing xorg.conf. Not that I'm opposed to editing config files in general, but this shoul be supported by the GUI desktop
[11:34] <joesepp> Mahy: you're welcome
[14:48] <blackmoth> hi! i have a question regarding the swap after xubuntu installation..anyone can help?
[14:49] <Sysi> you could've just ask
[14:50] <blackmoth> my problem is..during pre installation i made a swap partition of 4gb then once the installation was done my swap partition is gone?
[14:50] <blackmoth> i tried to swapon -a but it cannot locate the swap partition?
[14:51] <blackmoth> i reinstalled twice already still no swap partition...also when i open gparted before trying the to install again the swap partition was deleted?
[14:52] <blackmoth> any thoughts of this? thanks
[14:52] <Sysi> what partitioning option did you use, custom? (and why do you need 4GB swap)
[14:53] <blackmoth> yeah
[14:53] <blackmoth> custom partition
[14:53] <Sysi> if you run 'cat /etc/fstab | grep swap' do you get anything?
[14:53] <Sysi> maybe sudo cat
[14:53] <blackmoth> does setting a swap to 4gb would cause that problem?
[14:54] <Sysi> shouldn't
[14:54] <Sysi> I just wonder how you're gonna use it
[14:55] <blackmoth> # swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation
[14:55] <blackmoth> #UUID=5fad553a-1af4-4330-92aa-848df3050355 none            swap    sw              0       0
[14:55] <blackmoth> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[14:55] <blackmoth> i get that result
[14:55] <Sysi> hum, say it's created but still commented out
[14:56] <Sysi> encryption might has something to do with that..
[14:57] <blackmoth> also during installation forgot which one there was a permission problem...
[14:57] <blackmoth> is there a log during installation so i could scan it?
[15:00] <blackmoth> also when i check on gparted the 4gb swap partition was deleted and reduced to 1.7gb or something
[15:00] <charlie-tca> um, noted...
[15:00] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview#Boot.2C_installation_and_post-install
[15:01] <charlie-tca> see second item
[15:01] <charlie-tca> blackmoth: bug 709363
[15:02] <blackmoth> i see
[15:02] <blackmoth> whats the work around?
[15:02] <blackmoth> maybe setting it to 2gb instead of 4?
[15:05] <charlie-tca> appears to be a possible workaround in comment #15 of the bug. However, if you can reproduce, try what the developer asked in comment #7, please. There is no official fix or workaround because the devs could not reproduce the issue
[15:07] <blackmoth> ok ill try to fiddle with it a bit.. thanks for the link
[15:08] <charlie-tca> You are welcome. Any help with debugging that thing would be really useful.
[16:17] <Boscop> hi
[16:24] <Boscop> I had two partitions on my hard drive (sda1: windows 7, sda2: windows xp). I wanted to install xubuntu instead of windows 7 and during the installation I chose to split the first partition into a 4GB swap partition and the main one. after successful installation of xubuntu grub showed that sda2 contained windows 7 (which isn't true since it contains win xp. maybe it got confused because I had I installed windows 7 first and then xp, s
[16:25] <Boscop> lecting the "windows 7" entry in grub) I got an error "file missing or corrupted: c:\windows\system32\hal.dll". I used the recovery cd to execute "expand d:\i386\hal.dl_ c:\windows\system32" (which replaced the hal.dll file) but the error persisted. my guess is that the hal.dll file is alright but the windows bootloader is corrupted. neither the windows 7 cd nor the windows xp cd were able to repair it. currently I cannot boot into xu
[16:25] <Boscop> (I also tried fixmbr and fixboot inthe recovery console)
[16:29] <charlie-tca> Boscop: I suspect the windows 7 takes priority over XP, and in trying to remove it, perhaps the entire partition sda1 did not get used, resulting in XP moving to sda3
[16:29] <blackmoth> hi i did reproduce the installation and followed the instruction on #7 on swap bug
[16:30] <blackmoth> registering right now to upload the file
[16:30] <blackmoth> any dev around?
[16:30] <charlie-tca> blackmoth: thank you very much. I will look at it as soon as you are done
[16:30] <blackmoth> ok
[16:31] <Boscop> charlie-tca: yes, since the first partition got split into two, XP is now on the third, but it doesn't know it
[16:31] <blackmoth> i have two files the debuglog during the installation and the syslog after installation
[16:31] <blackmoth> should i upload the two?
[16:31] <Boscop> charlie-tca: how can I fix it?
[16:32] <charlie-tca> Boscop: I suspect you have to reinstall xp
[16:32] <charlie-tca> blackmoth: yes, please
[16:33] <Boscop> charlie-tca: oh no, not again :( I already had to reinstall it twice
[16:34] <charlie-tca> did you find xp yet?
[16:34] <charlie-tca> maybe examine the partitions using gparted, it should show what the ntfs partitions are
[16:35] <focalt> hey guys
[16:35] <focalt> I need some advice
[16:35] <Boscop> charlie-tca: http://pastebin.com/cay467pT
[16:35] <focalt> I found a old computer
[16:35] <charlie-tca> focalt: use it?
[16:35] <Boscop> XP still seems to be on sda2
[16:35] <focalt> a pentiumIII
[16:36] <focalt> charlie-tca, but I have bios coded, and usb ports don't recognize pen drives...
[16:36] <focalt> hoe can I install xubuntu?
[16:36] <focalt> on it
[16:36] <charlie-tca> Boscop: it does. Let me see if I can find a reference to try and fix it
[16:36] <charlie-tca> focalt: use a cd drive?
[16:36] <Boscop> charlie-tca: thanks
[16:37] <charlie-tca> I use cd s on all my systems. I think I have one out of five might boot from usb now
[16:38] <focalt> charlie-tca, but how can I set boot order to cd drive, if I have no access to bios?
[16:41] <charlie-tca> Boscop: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringWindows
[16:41] <charlie-tca> focalt: why no bios access?
[16:41] <charlie-tca> try hitting ins, del, F2, F7, F10, F11, F12 on boot?
[16:42] <blackmoth> charlie: only one attachment per comment in the comment section?
[16:42] <charlie-tca> Depending on the manufacturer, I have computers that use all of those to enter bios
[16:42] <blackmoth> charlie: only one attachment allowed per comment in the comment section?
[16:42] <charlie-tca> blackmoth: yes, sorry
[16:42] <blackmoth> ok
[16:42] <charlie-tca> Got to make two entries for two attachments
[16:42] <focalt> charlie-tca, it asks a password
[16:43] <charlie-tca> focalt: I see. Then you should look the thing up in google and find "how to clear cmos"
[16:43] <charlie-tca> there will be a jumper on the motherboard, most of the time
[16:44] <blackmoth> is he using a laptop?
[16:44] <blackmoth> if its desktop just take out the battery and re insert
[16:45] <focalt> charlie-tca, thanks
[16:45] <Boscop> charlie-tca: I already copied the hal.dll from the cd. and btw there is no hal.dll in my c:\windows\system32\dllcache
[16:46] <charlie-tca> Good luck. I managed to find all of the old systems I gained, but it took some digging for at least one of them
[16:46] <charlie-tca> maybe something in
[16:46] <charlie-tca> !grub
[16:46] <charlie-tca> would help, since the system is not seeing the right things in grub?
[16:50] <blackmoth> um charlie sorry about the double post on the comments
[16:51] <blackmoth> am having isp problems right now
[16:51] <blackmoth> you could erase comment  19
[16:51] <charlie-tca> No problem, we can work around it.
[16:51] <charlie-tca> I can't remove it, but we can put a note in that it is the same as...
[16:54] <charlie-tca> I see comment 18, 19, 20, all three are the same log file?
[16:54] <blackmoth> yeah
[16:54] <blackmoth> what does it says on 20?
[16:54] <blackmoth> syslog?
[16:55] <blackmoth> woah sorry about that
[16:55] <blackmoth> am still upload the syslog
[16:55] <blackmoth> 18 ,19,20 are the same file
[16:55] <Boscop> charlie-tca: I found this article: http://www.comitservices.com/wp/?p=12 my boot.ini looks like this: http://pastebin.com/9L8fQ4sV is the 'partition(2)' correct? I can't run DISKPART now, so I don't know how which nr that partition will have in windows, but maybe you can deduce that from the 'fdisk -l' output I pasted above?
[16:56] <charlie-tca> It's okay, I know to say they are the same, by mistake
[16:57] <blackmoth> its because my isp right now is so slow...so i have to wait for the upload to load...i think i pressed the post comment twice
[16:58] <Boscop> charlie-tca: in the 'fdisk -l' output, sda2 is the 2nd partition, so it should work (right?), but it doesn't.
[16:59] <blackmoth> charlie could i send you the syslog here? it seems faster...my browsing speed right now is very slow
[17:00] <charlie-tca> Boscop: not having touched windows in years, I don't know if it is c: or d:, but sda2 is the second partition. However, I question if XP might be found instead on sdb1 or sdc1, both identified as windows partitions
[17:01] <charlie-tca> sdb1 would be D:, and sdc1 would be e:, I think
[17:01] <Boscop> charlie-tca: no, they weren't plugged in then. they are external disks
[17:03] <charlie-tca> hm, under the rules for grub in older versions, sda1 == 0, sda2 == 1. Maybe try changing the partition to 1 for xp in grub?
[17:05] <blackmoth> hmm i cant upload the 4mb syslog..my internet connection right now is very freaking slow
[17:06] <blackmoth> btw charlie what was the command again for checking the UUID for the swap partition?
[17:06] <blackmoth> the one you gave me earlier
[17:09] <Boscop> charlie-tca: grub is corrupted now that I ran fixmbr and fixboot. I'll have to reinstall grub later. the question is, what should I put in the boot.ini file?
[17:09] <charlie-tca> nothiung
[17:10] <charlie-tca> it is using grub2, which builds the file itself.
[17:11] <Boscop> charlie-tca: right now grub doesn't show up when I boot
[17:12] <Boscop> charlie-tca: so I can't even boot into xubuntu
[17:12] <charlie-tca> hold down the rightshift after bios checks. It should show up
[17:14] <Boscop> charlie-tca: and then just reinstall grub from within xubuntu and it should fix boot.ini accordingly?
[17:15] <blackmoth> ill upload the syslog tomorrow once my isp problem is fix
[17:20] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:20] <charlie-tca> blackmoth: okay
[17:20] <charlie-tca> Boscop: yes, to the best of my knowledge
[17:21] <blackmoth> hmm i tried to open the fstab and found out that the uuid of the swap was commented?
[17:22] <Boscop> charlie-tca: if that doesn't work, would it help to delete the swap partition so that I only have two again?
[17:22] <Boscop> (I guess not, since the new partitions were appended at the end)
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Boscop: probably not, that usually makes it harder to straighten out
[17:22] <Boscop> ok
[17:24] <blackmoth> # swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation
[17:24] <blackmoth> #UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none            swap    sw              0       0
[17:24] <blackmoth> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[17:24] <blackmoth> charlie should i uncomment the swap uuid and comment on /dev?
[17:25] <charlie-tca> I don't know
[17:26] <charlie-tca> looks like uncomment the uuid line and leave the other one alone
[17:26] <blackmoth> tried to reproduce the instruction on # 15
[17:27] <charlie-tca> I would try that first. If it doesn't work, then comment the /dev line]
[17:27] <charlie-tca> I would try that first. If it doesn't work, then comment the /dev line :(
[17:27] <blackmoth> i tried
[17:27] <blackmoth> # swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation
[17:27] <blackmoth> #UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none            swap    sw              0       0
[17:27] <blackmoth> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[17:27] <blackmoth> opps
[17:27] <blackmoth> swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733
[17:27] <blackmoth> still cant find the device
[17:28] <blackmoth> does this problem only occur if you set the swap file above 2gb during installation?
[17:28] <charlie-tca> Did you uncomment the uuid line?
[17:28] <charlie-tca> also, make sure the uuid is correct
[17:29] <blackmoth> how to check for the uuid?
[17:29] <blackmoth> that uuid was already on the fstab
[17:29] <charlie-tca> blackmoth: no, it happens for the encrypted drive. It doesn't care how big/small the swap file is
[17:30] <charlie-tca> you have to verify the uuid is correct for sdb6
[17:30] <blackmoth> how?
[17:30] <charlie-tca> open a terminal and type       blkid
[17:30] <charlie-tca> see what it says
[17:31] <blackmoth> sdb6 doesnt show in blkid
[17:31] <blackmoth> # swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation
[17:31] <blackmoth> #UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none            swap    sw              0       0
[17:31] <charlie-tca> okay, then try ls /dev/disk/by-uuid
[17:31] <blackmoth> thats the original in the fstab before uncommenting it
[17:32] <charlie-tca> my mistake
[17:32] <charlie-tca> in terminal,       ls -lA /dev/disk/by-uuid
[17:32] <charlie-tca> will give all the drives by sd?? and uuid
[17:33] <blackmoth> yeah only three
[17:33] <blackmoth> but not for the sdb6
[17:34] <blackmoth> this is the output
[17:34] <blackmoth> 3b33ccb1-f758-4ebb-83ac-a76e79afa147  48A1499124D60B5D	b36d99ff-0980-446d-ac6e-b8337b7388e5
[17:34] <blackmoth> then the output of blkid is
[17:34] <blackmoth> /dev/sda4: LABEL="UniStorage" UUID="48A1499124D60B5D" TYPE="ntfs"
[17:34] <blackmoth> /dev/sda5: UUID="b36d99ff-0980-446d-ac6e-b8337b7388e5" TYPE="ext4"
[17:34] <blackmoth> /dev/sda7: UUID="3b33ccb1-f758-4ebb-83ac-a76e79afa147" TYPE="ext4"
[17:34] <blackmoth> sdb6 doesnt show up
[17:34] <charlie-tca> comment it out completely in /etc/fstab then
[17:35] <charlie-tca> It should work until the bug gets figured out
[17:35] <blackmoth> i tried already
[17:35] <charlie-tca> It seems maybe it did not even create the partition properly
[17:35] <blackmoth> i comment it out
[17:35] <blackmoth> then comment the /dev
[17:36] <blackmoth> but during swap on
[17:36] <blackmoth> swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733
[17:37] <blackmoth> also during the installation i saw a command to wipe out swap space for security reasons....is that normal?
[17:39] <blackmoth> charlie
[17:40] <blackmoth> sdb6 shows up on fdisk -l
[17:41] <blackmoth> also during the installation i saw a command to wipe out swap space for security reasons....is that normal?
[17:43] <charlie-tca> swap-on won't find it because it can't find the partition
[17:43] <charlie-tca> yes, is normal to see it wipe space
[17:43] <blackmoth> ah ok
[17:43] <charlie-tca> sdb6 might show up, but it still isn't formatted right to be used
[17:44] <blackmoth> hmm so can i run a live usb and format it again with gparted?
[17:44] <charlie-tca> You can try, I don't know if it will work, though.
[17:45] <blackmoth> hmm let me try
[17:45] <blackmoth> brb
[17:54] <blackmoth> charlie
[17:54] <blackmoth> it worked
[17:54] <blackmoth> i think i found out the problem
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Great!
[17:54] <charlie-tca> problem is???
[17:55] <blackmoth> when i checked gparted the 4gb i assigned to swap reduce to 3.9gb and the format is unknown
[17:55] <blackmoth> the installation somewhat corrupted the swap file
[17:55] <charlie-tca> Yes, it messes up the formatting for reasons yet to determined.
[17:56] <blackmoth> it writes something on the swap file? since it used up about 100mb kish
[17:56] <charlie-tca> That's why they need those logs. They can't find why it is doing that
[17:57] <blackmoth> can i send you the log here?
[17:57] <charlie-tca> Of course, if it happened to everybody, it would be so much easier
[17:57] <charlie-tca> no
[17:57] <blackmoth> ill try to upload it
[17:57] <blackmoth> seems internet is doing fine
[17:57] <charlie-tca> every partition has a small amount used to set itself up
[17:58] <charlie-tca> Great! I already notified the developer that you are adding the logs.
[17:58] <brunomedeiros> Hi all
[17:58] <blackmoth> ok
[17:58] <brunomedeiros> First time here on this channel!
[17:59] <charlie-tca> !hi | brunomedeiros
[18:00] <charlie-tca> Welcome to our little support channel
[18:00] <Boscop> charlie-tca: in grub when I run 'grub> find /boot/grub/stage1' I get this error 'Error 15: File not found'.
[18:01] <Boscop> charlie-tca: I'm following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[18:02] <charlie-tca> Boscop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#File_Not_Found_.28Error_15.29
[18:02] <charlie-tca> explains how to fix that
[18:04] <Boscop> I got this error _while_ reinstalling grub from a live cd.
[18:04] <Boscop> (in fact, I haven't been able to reinstall it yet, due to this error)
[18:04] <Boscop> so how will reinstalling from a live cd fix this?
[18:06] <blackmoth> charlie: done upload the syslog
[18:06] <charlie-tca> Boscop: the guide you are following is from 2006. It will not work for grub2
[18:07] <charlie-tca> Please use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 for anything after 2009
[18:07] <Boscop> charlie-tca: also, when running upgrade-from-grub-legacy I get '/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub'
[18:07] <charlie-tca> Boscop: the guide you are following is from 2006. It will not work for grub2
[18:07] <charlie-tca> You are using an obsolete guide, which references files not use by grub2
[18:08] <charlie-tca> blackmoth: thank you
[18:08] <blackmoth> no problem.. hope this bug will be fix soon
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Me too.
[18:10] <blackmoth> ok have to go now...ill check the bug section for an update tomorrow...bye
[18:10] <blackmoth> thank you for your time
[18:14] <charlie-tca> you are welcome
[18:23] <Boscop> charlie-tca: ok, I reinstalled grub now using boot-repair but it doesn't seem to modify boot.ini
[22:31] <salis> i ahve problem with aircrakc-ng suite when i use aireplay i get a message tha card is on difrent channel than ap is.. some1 here have an idia?
[22:42] <rsyring> Is there a Places panel item in 11.04?
[22:43] <rsyring> I mean, I don't see it in the list, do I have to do something special to get it to show up?
[22:55] <GridCube> rsyring, there is a kind of places but it works different
[22:56] <GridCube> you can, though, make one manually