[00:17] I Found It!!! [00:19] Turning on the GNOME services causes my laptop to drop a Blue Screen (Not Of Death) over the screen after login (which is automatic). [00:19] Only took me a week :( [00:24] glad you found it, finally :) [00:25] Wonder why? (the screen, not why so long, I know that, I'm ignorant :) [00:25] apparently gnome hates us? [00:28] There are times I want my Apple ][ back [00:28] charlie-tca: any chance you can confirm this? [00:28] no, I don't install gnome if I can avoid it [00:29] I try for as little gnome stuff as possible here [00:30] well, Sessions and Startup>Advanced>click Launch GNOME services on startup is what causes it for me [00:31] oh well.... [00:33] REally? [00:33] File the bug, I will try to confirm while testing this week. [00:33] yup, that's whay I hoped you could confirm/deny it before I head over to bug HQ [00:35] Wonder why rythmbox always wants a reboot after install...back in a minute...unless something else goes wrong [00:36] * ElderDryas beats his head against the desk L( [00:39] * ElderDryas sticks his head out the window...maybe it's full moon...nope. [00:40] heh, I did the wall-to-head thing yesterday. It did not really help much [00:41] Now rhythmbox has no straming/radio [00:41] And it hurts more when the hair has gone [00:43] I could see the hurt more thing, sure. ;) [00:44] noted desk instead of wall, too. [00:44] Well, the desk is oak...drywall dents and then my wife makes me fix it [00:46] drywall is softer, though [00:49] I quit for the night :( [04:11] ALMOST!!!!! grrrr [04:13] anyone using xchat and have OP, ban kick buttons options up? [04:15] hmm wrong chat... /:) [04:15] i have them [04:15] lol [04:15] hehehe [04:15] im having font issue, and half the labels are off wont fit on the screen [04:16] change the font [04:16] in xchat [04:16] thing is i was using the default font , and had only installed my nvidia drivers [04:17] menu items are Teeny tiny, right clicks for cut n paste is huger, [04:17] hmm [04:17] screen in "where were reading" is normal, but tabs for channels are huger [04:19] maby your screen size in nvida drivers needs to be set up right [04:19] maybe, but i dont see anything out of the ordinary, res1440X900 [04:19] hmm [04:24] well zenrox thanks though, im going to go to the channel i meant to ask in. :) [05:31] anyone know how to select the default output device for pulseaudio? [05:32] with pavucontrol [05:32] so in that i see i can set a "fallback" but is there a way to set a default that i am not seeing? [05:33] or is that the same thing? [05:34] just selecting output device should work [05:34] i found a solution in paprefs to output to all devices simultaneously [05:34] thanks though! [08:33] bonjour a tous [08:33] je suis en train de faire une installe de xubuntu [08:33] !fr [08:33] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [08:34] ok sorry === YeahRight_ is now known as YeahRight [11:12] Can anyone help with Keyboard Layouts panel applet? [11:13] it doesn't remeber the default layout, nor the key combination to change layout after reboot. [11:14] overall there is a problem with shortcut keys [11:16] anyone? [11:22] hi there, I've got one question. Can somebody please tell me, whether or not the new upcoming Xubuntu release (11.10) provides a tool to switch keyboard layouts (either by mouseclick or a keybord shortcut)? THX in advance. Mahy. [11:24] Mahy: are you using one now? [11:24] ATM I'm using plain Gnome Ubuntu 10.10 [11:26] Mahy: there is a plugin (xfce4-xkb-plugin) for that right now [11:28] Mahy: actually i had a question before about the plugin cos' it's not remembering the shortcut to change the layout [11:28] Mahy: but mouseclick works fine [11:31] joesepp: thanks a lot, I'll give that plugin a try. Much better than editing xorg.conf. Not that I'm opposed to editing config files in general, but this shoul be supported by the GUI desktop [11:34] Mahy: you're welcome === SaaMmY is now known as DIO-troll === DIO-troll is now known as SaaMmY [14:48] hi! i have a question regarding the swap after xubuntu installation..anyone can help? [14:49] you could've just ask [14:50] my problem is..during pre installation i made a swap partition of 4gb then once the installation was done my swap partition is gone? [14:50] i tried to swapon -a but it cannot locate the swap partition? [14:51] i reinstalled twice already still no swap partition...also when i open gparted before trying the to install again the swap partition was deleted? [14:52] any thoughts of this? thanks [14:52] what partitioning option did you use, custom? (and why do you need 4GB swap) [14:53] yeah [14:53] custom partition [14:53] if you run 'cat /etc/fstab | grep swap' do you get anything? [14:53] maybe sudo cat [14:53] does setting a swap to 4gb would cause that problem? [14:54] shouldn't [14:54] I just wonder how you're gonna use it [14:55] # swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation [14:55] #UUID=5fad553a-1af4-4330-92aa-848df3050355 none swap sw 0 0 [14:55] /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 [14:55] i get that result [14:55] hum, say it's created but still commented out [14:56] encryption might has something to do with that.. [14:57] also during installation forgot which one there was a permission problem... [14:57] is there a log during installation so i could scan it? [15:00] also when i check on gparted the 4gb swap partition was deleted and reduced to 1.7gb or something [15:00] um, noted... [15:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview#Boot.2C_installation_and_post-install [15:01] see second item [15:01] blackmoth: bug 709363 [15:02] Launchpad bug 709363 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "swap partition disappeared during installation" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709363 [15:02] i see [15:02] whats the work around? [15:02] maybe setting it to 2gb instead of 4? [15:05] appears to be a possible workaround in comment #15 of the bug. However, if you can reproduce, try what the developer asked in comment #7, please. There is no official fix or workaround because the devs could not reproduce the issue [15:07] ok ill try to fiddle with it a bit.. thanks for the link [15:08] You are welcome. Any help with debugging that thing would be really useful. [16:17] hi [16:24] I had two partitions on my hard drive (sda1: windows 7, sda2: windows xp). I wanted to install xubuntu instead of windows 7 and during the installation I chose to split the first partition into a 4GB swap partition and the main one. after successful installation of xubuntu grub showed that sda2 contained windows 7 (which isn't true since it contains win xp. maybe it got confused because I had I installed windows 7 first and then xp, s [16:25] lecting the "windows 7" entry in grub) I got an error "file missing or corrupted: c:\windows\system32\hal.dll". I used the recovery cd to execute "expand d:\i386\hal.dl_ c:\windows\system32" (which replaced the hal.dll file) but the error persisted. my guess is that the hal.dll file is alright but the windows bootloader is corrupted. neither the windows 7 cd nor the windows xp cd were able to repair it. currently I cannot boot into xu [16:25] (I also tried fixmbr and fixboot inthe recovery console) [16:29] Boscop: I suspect the windows 7 takes priority over XP, and in trying to remove it, perhaps the entire partition sda1 did not get used, resulting in XP moving to sda3 [16:29] hi i did reproduce the installation and followed the instruction on #7 on swap bug [16:30] registering right now to upload the file [16:30] any dev around? [16:30] blackmoth: thank you very much. I will look at it as soon as you are done [16:30] ok [16:31] charlie-tca: yes, since the first partition got split into two, XP is now on the third, but it doesn't know it [16:31] i have two files the debuglog during the installation and the syslog after installation [16:31] should i upload the two? [16:31] charlie-tca: how can I fix it? [16:32] Boscop: I suspect you have to reinstall xp [16:32] blackmoth: yes, please [16:33] charlie-tca: oh no, not again :( I already had to reinstall it twice [16:34] did you find xp yet? [16:34] maybe examine the partitions using gparted, it should show what the ntfs partitions are [16:35] hey guys [16:35] I need some advice [16:35] charlie-tca: http://pastebin.com/cay467pT [16:35] I found a old computer [16:35] focalt: use it? [16:35] XP still seems to be on sda2 [16:35] a pentiumIII [16:36] charlie-tca, but I have bios coded, and usb ports don't recognize pen drives... [16:36] hoe can I install xubuntu? [16:36] on it [16:36] Boscop: it does. Let me see if I can find a reference to try and fix it [16:36] focalt: use a cd drive? [16:36] charlie-tca: thanks [16:37] I use cd s on all my systems. I think I have one out of five might boot from usb now [16:38] charlie-tca, but how can I set boot order to cd drive, if I have no access to bios? [16:41] Boscop: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringWindows [16:41] focalt: why no bios access? [16:41] try hitting ins, del, F2, F7, F10, F11, F12 on boot? [16:42] charlie: only one attachment per comment in the comment section? [16:42] Depending on the manufacturer, I have computers that use all of those to enter bios [16:42] charlie: only one attachment allowed per comment in the comment section? [16:42] blackmoth: yes, sorry [16:42] ok [16:42] Got to make two entries for two attachments [16:42] charlie-tca, it asks a password [16:43] focalt: I see. Then you should look the thing up in google and find "how to clear cmos" [16:43] there will be a jumper on the motherboard, most of the time [16:44] is he using a laptop? [16:44] if its desktop just take out the battery and re insert [16:45] charlie-tca, thanks [16:45] charlie-tca: I already copied the hal.dll from the cd. and btw there is no hal.dll in my c:\windows\system32\dllcache [16:46] Good luck. I managed to find all of the old systems I gained, but it took some digging for at least one of them [16:46] maybe something in [16:46] !grub [16:46] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [16:46] would help, since the system is not seeing the right things in grub? [16:50] um charlie sorry about the double post on the comments [16:51] am having isp problems right now [16:51] you could erase comment 19 [16:51] No problem, we can work around it. [16:51] I can't remove it, but we can put a note in that it is the same as... [16:54] I see comment 18, 19, 20, all three are the same log file? [16:54] yeah [16:54] what does it says on 20? [16:54] syslog? [16:55] woah sorry about that [16:55] am still upload the syslog [16:55] 18 ,19,20 are the same file [16:55] charlie-tca: I found this article: http://www.comitservices.com/wp/?p=12 my boot.ini looks like this: http://pastebin.com/9L8fQ4sV is the 'partition(2)' correct? I can't run DISKPART now, so I don't know how which nr that partition will have in windows, but maybe you can deduce that from the 'fdisk -l' output I pasted above? [16:56] It's okay, I know to say they are the same, by mistake [16:57] its because my isp right now is so slow...so i have to wait for the upload to load...i think i pressed the post comment twice [16:58] charlie-tca: in the 'fdisk -l' output, sda2 is the 2nd partition, so it should work (right?), but it doesn't. [16:59] charlie could i send you the syslog here? it seems faster...my browsing speed right now is very slow [17:00] Boscop: not having touched windows in years, I don't know if it is c: or d:, but sda2 is the second partition. However, I question if XP might be found instead on sdb1 or sdc1, both identified as windows partitions [17:01] sdb1 would be D:, and sdc1 would be e:, I think [17:01] charlie-tca: no, they weren't plugged in then. they are external disks [17:03] hm, under the rules for grub in older versions, sda1 == 0, sda2 == 1. Maybe try changing the partition to 1 for xp in grub? [17:05] hmm i cant upload the 4mb syslog..my internet connection right now is very freaking slow [17:06] btw charlie what was the command again for checking the UUID for the swap partition? [17:06] the one you gave me earlier [17:09] charlie-tca: grub is corrupted now that I ran fixmbr and fixboot. I'll have to reinstall grub later. the question is, what should I put in the boot.ini file? [17:09] nothiung [17:10] it is using grub2, which builds the file itself. [17:11] charlie-tca: right now grub doesn't show up when I boot [17:12] charlie-tca: so I can't even boot into xubuntu [17:12] hold down the rightshift after bios checks. It should show up [17:14] charlie-tca: and then just reinstall grub from within xubuntu and it should fix boot.ini accordingly? [17:15] ill upload the syslog tomorrow once my isp problem is fix [17:20] yup [17:20] blackmoth: okay [17:20] Boscop: yes, to the best of my knowledge [17:21] hmm i tried to open the fstab and found out that the uuid of the swap was commented? [17:22] charlie-tca: if that doesn't work, would it help to delete the swap partition so that I only have two again? [17:22] (I guess not, since the new partitions were appended at the end) [17:22] Boscop: probably not, that usually makes it harder to straighten out [17:22] ok [17:24] # swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation [17:24] #UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none swap sw 0 0 [17:24] /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 [17:24] charlie should i uncomment the swap uuid and comment on /dev? [17:25] I don't know [17:26] looks like uncomment the uuid line and leave the other one alone [17:26] tried to reproduce the instruction on # 15 [17:27] I would try that first. If it doesn't work, then comment the /dev line] [17:27] I would try that first. If it doesn't work, then comment the /dev line :( [17:27] i tried [17:27] # swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation [17:27] #UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none swap sw 0 0 [17:27] /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 [17:27] opps [17:27] swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 [17:27] still cant find the device [17:28] does this problem only occur if you set the swap file above 2gb during installation? [17:28] Did you uncomment the uuid line? [17:28] also, make sure the uuid is correct [17:29] how to check for the uuid? [17:29] that uuid was already on the fstab [17:29] blackmoth: no, it happens for the encrypted drive. It doesn't care how big/small the swap file is [17:30] you have to verify the uuid is correct for sdb6 [17:30] how? [17:30] open a terminal and type blkid [17:30] see what it says [17:31] sdb6 doesnt show in blkid [17:31] # swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation [17:31] #UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 none swap sw 0 0 [17:31] okay, then try ls /dev/disk/by-uuid [17:31] thats the original in the fstab before uncommenting it [17:32] my mistake [17:32] in terminal, ls -lA /dev/disk/by-uuid [17:32] will give all the drives by sd?? and uuid [17:33] yeah only three [17:33] but not for the sdb6 [17:34] this is the output [17:34] 3b33ccb1-f758-4ebb-83ac-a76e79afa147 48A1499124D60B5D b36d99ff-0980-446d-ac6e-b8337b7388e5 [17:34] then the output of blkid is [17:34] /dev/sda4: LABEL="UniStorage" UUID="48A1499124D60B5D" TYPE="ntfs" [17:34] /dev/sda5: UUID="b36d99ff-0980-446d-ac6e-b8337b7388e5" TYPE="ext4" [17:34] /dev/sda7: UUID="3b33ccb1-f758-4ebb-83ac-a76e79afa147" TYPE="ext4" [17:34] sdb6 doesnt show up [17:34] comment it out completely in /etc/fstab then [17:35] It should work until the bug gets figured out [17:35] i tried already [17:35] It seems maybe it did not even create the partition properly [17:35] i comment it out [17:35] then comment the /dev [17:36] but during swap on [17:36] swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=94405326-29be-472d-8f6d-ac868695d733 [17:37] also during the installation i saw a command to wipe out swap space for security reasons....is that normal? [17:39] charlie [17:40] sdb6 shows up on fdisk -l [17:41] also during the installation i saw a command to wipe out swap space for security reasons....is that normal? [17:43] swap-on won't find it because it can't find the partition [17:43] yes, is normal to see it wipe space [17:43] ah ok [17:43] sdb6 might show up, but it still isn't formatted right to be used [17:44] hmm so can i run a live usb and format it again with gparted? [17:44] You can try, I don't know if it will work, though. [17:45] hmm let me try [17:45] brb [17:54] charlie [17:54] it worked [17:54] i think i found out the problem [17:54] Great! [17:54] problem is??? [17:55] when i checked gparted the 4gb i assigned to swap reduce to 3.9gb and the format is unknown [17:55] the installation somewhat corrupted the swap file [17:55] Yes, it messes up the formatting for reasons yet to determined. [17:56] it writes something on the swap file? since it used up about 100mb kish [17:56] That's why they need those logs. They can't find why it is doing that [17:57] can i send you the log here? [17:57] Of course, if it happened to everybody, it would be so much easier [17:57] no [17:57] ill try to upload it [17:57] seems internet is doing fine [17:57] every partition has a small amount used to set itself up [17:58] Great! I already notified the developer that you are adding the logs. [17:58] Hi all [17:58] ok [17:58] First time here on this channel! [17:59] !hi | brunomedeiros [17:59] brunomedeiros: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [18:00] Welcome to our little support channel [18:00] charlie-tca: in grub when I run 'grub> find /boot/grub/stage1' I get this error 'Error 15: File not found'. [18:01] charlie-tca: I'm following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 [18:02] Boscop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#File_Not_Found_.28Error_15.29 [18:02] explains how to fix that [18:04] I got this error _while_ reinstalling grub from a live cd. [18:04] (in fact, I haven't been able to reinstall it yet, due to this error) [18:04] so how will reinstalling from a live cd fix this? [18:06] charlie: done upload the syslog [18:06] Boscop: the guide you are following is from 2006. It will not work for grub2 [18:07] Please use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 for anything after 2009 [18:07] charlie-tca: also, when running upgrade-from-grub-legacy I get '/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub' [18:07] Boscop: the guide you are following is from 2006. It will not work for grub2 [18:07] You are using an obsolete guide, which references files not use by grub2 [18:08] blackmoth: thank you [18:08] no problem.. hope this bug will be fix soon [18:08] Me too. [18:10] ok have to go now...ill check the bug section for an update tomorrow...bye [18:10] thank you for your time [18:14] you are welcome [18:23] charlie-tca: ok, I reinstalled grub now using boot-repair but it doesn't seem to modify boot.ini [22:31] i ahve problem with aircrakc-ng suite when i use aireplay i get a message tha card is on difrent channel than ap is.. some1 here have an idia? [22:42] Is there a Places panel item in 11.04? [22:43] I mean, I don't see it in the list, do I have to do something special to get it to show up? [22:55] rsyring, there is a kind of places but it works different [22:56] you can, though, make one manually