/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/11/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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Peace-:) the samba problem was only a windows problem...09:13
Peace-rbelem: 09:13
Peace-now it works 09:13
Saviqfregl: hi, I took the a11y performance issue from mardy, here's a demo app: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/705941/09:57
freglSaviq: thanks, I'll have a look09:58
Saviqrun that with QT_ACCESSIBILITY=0 - everything's fine, but with QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 the performance drops heavily, and there's a _lot_ of creating accessibles09:58
Saviqlooks like it updates the a11y data all the time during animation, maybe it should only do that after animation stopped?10:07
Peace-bah muon is worse than kpakcagekit 10:17
Peace-searchin stuff with that is not confortable10:17
Riddellhow's this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades/Kubuntu10:46
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rbelemPeace-, pong11:42
rbelemPeace-, oh! nice :-D11:42
Peace-rbelem: oha'11:42
Peace-*ola'11:43
rbelemPeace-, if you find a bug or need help, ping me :-)11:43
rbelemola' :-D11:43
Peace-rbelem: thanks ! 11:45
afiestasrbelem: I have problems with samba sharing12:08
afiestaslet me see if I can still reproduce it12:08
afiestasrbelem: I have a folder mark as "Share with Samba" + Allow Guest + Everyone=Read Only12:10
afiestaswhen I browser with samba kio, I see thwe workgroun, I see the computer, i see the folder but when trying to access to it12:11
afiestasI can't, user/password is asked12:11
afiestasups sorry, kio tells me that "Folder does not exists" now12:12
Quintasanrbelem: Uh, I forgot to tell you, changes look sane to me but ping me once again when the pacakge is ready (plasma-mobile)12:40
Quintasanximion: I have been using Apper quite extensively this week and it mostly works12:43
QuintasanI think the problem I mentioned will arise whenever there is a multiarch-related conflict12:43
ximionQuintasan: possible... To solve some other problems, you can also open /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf and set MaximumItemsToResolve=3200 (instead of 100)12:47
ximionthis caused some of the first issues12:47
ximionI already patched this for Debian12:47
rbelemQuintasan, nice :-)12:50
rbelemQuintasan, i will finish it today then :-)12:51
rbelemafiestas, :-/12:51
rbelemafiestas, do you have default samba configuration?12:52
afiestasrbelem: anyway I can debug that ?12:52
afiestasrbelem: kubuntu's12:52
rbelemafiestas, yup12:52
rbelemafiestas, try access it using smbclient12:52
rbelemafiestas, smbclient -U guest //localhost/<shared folder name>12:53
rbelemafiestas, for passwd just hit return12:53
rbelemafiestas, does it works?12:55
afiestasrbelem: testing12:55
afiestassmbclient -U guest //localhost/Public12:56
afiestasEnter guest's password: 12:56
afiestasDomain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.11]12:56
afiestastree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME12:56
rbelemafiestas, paste the output of net usershare info12:57
afiestasrbelem: http://paste.kde.org/132379/12:58
rbelemafiestas, it should be working12:58
rbelemafiestas, is samba properly installed? :-D12:59
rbelemafiestas, if yes, try apt-get install --reinstall samba13:00
afiestaswill look into it later13:03
rbelemafiestas, :'(13:05
apacheloggeruds or no uds, that is the question13:07
afiestasrbelem: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch12_:_Samba_Security_and_Troubleshooting13:15
afiestasrbelem: I'm starting to think that the problem goes deeper than just my setup13:15
afiestascan you check if yours is working in oneiric?13:15
afiestasor anyone using oneiric for that matter :p13:15
rbelemafiestas, it is working for me13:16
rbelemafiestas, with the samba default it should work13:17
afiestasrbelem: in oneiric?13:18
afiestasmaybe samba packagers changed something13:18
GirlyGirlSamba works for me too on oneric and even a windows machine on the network finds it13:18
rbelemafiestas, yup13:18
afiestasGirlyGirl: can you access to the shared folder?13:18
afiestasis not enough if it appears13:18
rbelemafiestas, i installed it yesterday 13:18
GirlyGirlafiestas: let me check13:18
afiestasrbelem: apt-get install --reinstall samba didn't did the trick13:19
rbelemafiestas, is the smbclient result the same?13:21
afiestasrbelem: yes13:21
afiestasI tested it that way13:21
afiestasI'm using master, but I guess that doesn't matter since 13:21
rbelemafiestas, lets test one more thing13:21
afiestasnet usershare info is returning valid info13:21
GirlyGirlafiestas: Working and I can acess the files, both from the same machine and on a network machine13:22
rbelemafiestas, sudo dpkg -P samba samba-common samba-common-bin13:22
rbelemafiestas, after that install samba again13:22
afiestasErrors were encountered while processing:13:23
afiestas samba-commo13:23
afiestas*common13:23
rbelemafiestas, dpkg -P --force-all samba samba-common samba-common-bin13:23
rbelem:-D13:23
afiestasrbelem: net usershare info returns nothing now13:25
afiestasshould I share the folder again via interface?13:25
rbelemafiestas, nice :-)13:25
rbelemafiestas, yup13:25
afiestasrbelem: sme problem13:26
afiestassame output in both commands13:26
afiestasbrb13:26
GirlyGirlafiestas: Try aptitude in place of apt13:26
rbelemafiestas, :-/13:26
rbelemafiestas, do you have firewall enabled?13:28
afiestasrbelem: not as far as I know13:31
rbelemwhat can be wrong??? o.O13:32
afiestasrbelem: maybe my system is lacking a user called guest?13:33
rbelemafiestas, nope13:33
rbelemafiestas, guest is nobody by default13:33
rbelemiirc13:33
rbelemafiestas, and your configuration is the default13:34
afiestasoh wait, maybe permissions?13:34
afiestasactual file system permissions?13:34
rbelemafiestas, hum...13:34
afiestasnah13:34
rbelemafiestas, try chmod 777 the folder13:34
afiestasrbelem: did it, didnt' work13:35
rbelemafiestas, may i have ssh access to you pc? :-D13:36
afiestasrbelem: nope13:36
rbelemafiestas, why not :'(13:36
rbelemafiestas, you dont trust me :'(13:37
rbelemafiestas, :-D13:37
afiestasbeacuse I have logs where apachelogger and I rant about you13:37
afiestas:3313:37
rbelemhahahaha13:37
rbelemafiestas, do you have other pc that you could test?13:38
afiestasrbelem: with oneiric, no13:39
rbelemafiestas, could you update it? :-D13:41
GirlyGirlafiestas: or run a live cd and check13:41
rbelemGirlyGirl, great idea :-D13:43
afiestasrbelem: GirlyGirl will try in a virtualbox13:43
apacheloggerrrrants13:43
rbelemapachelogger, could you gimme a second opnion on plasma-mobile pkg?13:44
rbelem:-D13:44
apacheloggeropinion?13:44
rbelemthats it13:45
apacheloggerI like it!13:45
apachelogger</opinion>13:45
afiestasapachelogger: you go to the uds .13:45
rbelemapachelogger, it is not ready, the opnion would be about the way the pkg is split now13:46
afiestasthat was an order13:46
* apachelogger has too huge a phonon to take orders :P13:46
apacheloggerrbelem: it is split?13:46
rbelemapachelogger, into more pkgs like plasma-active-data, plasma-active-browser and etc13:47
apacheloggeroh yes13:47
apacheloggermakes sense13:47
rbelemapachelogger, it is in the kubuntu-active ppa13:47
afiestasapachelogger: u.U !13:48
* apachelogger has next to no motivation to secure finances for UDS13:49
apacheloggerplus I still don't have a flight13:49
apacheloggerand for organizing that I have actual negative motiviation 13:49
rbelemapachelogger, please go13:49
rbelemapachelogger, please please please please please :-D13:50
apacheloggerif you book me a flight :P13:50
rbelemapachelogger, i dont have money to do that :'(13:51
apacheloggerme neither, well, spread across 5 bank accounts maybe13:51
apacheloggerthis is all too much trouble really13:52
afiestasapachelogger: why you didn't ask for sponsorship?13:54
apacheloggerI did13:56
apacheloggerthat does not help with first having to come up with the monies13:56
GirlyGirlapachelogger: no plans to remake ubuntuone-kde?13:56
apacheloggerno13:56
apacheloggerdropbox ftw!13:56
GirlyGirlapachelogger: already done that ... just wondering13:57
afiestasapachelogger:  can't you ask the travel agency ?13:57
afiestasthey did everything for me13:57
apacheloggeroh13:57
apacheloggerafiestas: canonicals?13:58
afiestasapachelogger: yes13:58
apacheloggerthat'd be an option I suppose13:58
afiestasI just had to say "From Madrid to Orlando, then Orlando to Barcelona", they did the rest13:58
Riddellthat is the preferred way14:08
Riddellclaydoh: I'm behind on this but have you been doing the release pages this cycle and are you planning to do a final release page?14:08
claydohRiddell: I have, with some good help :), I am actually working on it now, with a special section on kmail2 migration to reduce the headache levels14:26
GirlyGirlBy any chance does kubuntu-default-settings remove the minimise button?14:28
claydohScottK: for the kmail migration notes, if you have some of your bugs handy I can list them, I think you have reduced the number greatly, so i will probably keep it to the most seen ones14:32
RiddellGirlyGirl: no (what a silly thing that would be)14:41
GirlyGirlRiddell: On the pre-release iso for me there was no minimise button14:43
* Quintasan highfives afiestas14:43
QuintasanBlueDevil is absolutely awesome14:43
GirlyGirlRiddell: Maybe because it started with plasma-netbook first then I changed it to desktop14:43
RiddellGirlyGirl: that's quite likely14:44
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Quintasanapachelogger: Any plans for a sane music player?14:54
QuintasanAmarok became something I use without any pleasure, sometimes it's even horrible14:54
Quintasanximion: I can't extend Name row when browsing packages14:55
QuintasanIt's nondraggable14:56
QuintasanIs that intended?14:56
ximionQuintasan: no, afaik not14:57
ximionmaybe dantti changed this for some reason14:57
* Quintasan tries bangarang meantime14:59
apacheloggerQuintasan: tomahawk15:00
Quintasanapachelogger: I think it lacks music management skills atm15:00
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apacheloggerQuintasan: dolphin15:01
Quintasanapachelogger: Ah, You got me wondering how the hell is Dolphin supposed to play my music15:04
QuintasanI'm asking about serious music player15:04
Quintasannot "whatever you can stick Phonon in"15:04
Quintasan:P15:04
ximionQuintasan: Clementine! :P15:11
Quintasanximion: It's not sane :P15:11
apacheloggerwrite your own15:13
cmagina term15:23
GirlyGirlQuintasan: juk15:24
QuintasanGirlyGirl: Tried, didn't like it15:24
QuintasanThe winner is cmagina15:24
Quintasanshadeslayer: ping15:24
shadeslayerpong15:24
cmaginahaha, was actually meant for krunner ;)15:24
Quintasanshadeslayer: Do you has any idea about how that semantic magic in Nepomuk works?15:25
QuintasanIn terms of importing and exporting stuff15:25
shadeslayeruh .. importing and exporting stuff?15:25
shadeslayeri have a very basic idea15:26
QuintasanYes, like existing tags15:26
shadeslayerafter being explained the concept at DS and KDE India15:26
shadeslayerah15:26
shadeslayerQuintasan: it uses a rdf database, with custom entries and such15:26
shadeslayeryou can probably use the API to fetch everything15:26
shadeslayerthey're called SPARQL Queries15:26
shadeslayeror something like that15:27
Quintasanshadeslayer: Hmm, I just had an great idea however I'm not sure if this is feasible15:28
shadeslayershoot15:28
yofelbulldog98: ping15:31
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Peace-Riddell: it's ok the upgrade page16:36
bambeeevening17:06
* bambee is overbooked17:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: y u no write g+ qtquick app?17:53
shadeslayernot motivated enough17:54
shadeslayerand no time17:54
shadeslayerAdd no electricity to that17:59
shadeslayerCurrently, I'm getting somewhere close to around just 4-8 hours of electricity a day17:59
yofel@_@18:01
shadeslayersheytan: ping ping ping18:16
shadeslayersheytan: come over to #kde-doc-camp18:17
ScottKclaydoh: I think you know best.  Need to be closing in on the release notes as a whole.18:17
yofelScottK: got a plan for 4.7.2 for -updates?18:22
ScottKOnce we're sure we aren't going to respin, we should start uploading.18:22
yofelk18:22
* shadeslayer would like to see the CD/DVD drive fix in before the last ISO spin18:24
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rbelemQuintasan, ping18:27
apacheloggershadeslayer: but it is not even no work18:30
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/7GSQT.png18:30
shadeslayernow i shall have nightmares18:33
shadeslayerfor the next week18:33
ScottKshadeslayer: What bug?18:34
ScottKPlease be testing people ...18:34
shadeslayerScottK: the one where the kernel cannot detect the DVD drive18:35
yofelnot again...18:35
shadeslayerand thus topples over when trying to find a live file system18:35
ScottKshadeslayer: I mean what number?18:35
shadeslayeroh one sec18:35
yofel*that* is mac-specific though18:36
shadeslayerbug 78238918:36
shadeslayeryeah18:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 782389 in linux (Ubuntu) "DVD drive doesn't work on MacBookPro8,2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78238918:36
* yofel looks for work on iso.qa.ubuntu.com18:36
shadeslayerThey're waiting for it to be integrated into the linus tree and will patch it in the ubuntu kernel18:36
ScottKshadeslayer: No way to get the for release.18:37
shadeslayerScottK: yeah, so the ISO's won't work on the newer Macs then18:37
shadeslayerthe Macbook Pro (8,1) , (8,2) and (8,3)18:38
ScottKIt's physically impossible to get a new kernel out without delaying the release, so that's the deal.18:38
shadeslayerwell, the only way to install it is to use both a CD and a USB disk then :P18:38
shadeslayersheytan: btw this is kinda urgent18:39
ScottKshadeslayer: I put that in to go into the release notes.18:40
shadeslayeralright18:40
shadeslayerScottK: could you also mention how to boot it successfully? ( you need to write the image to both a CD and a USB and boot with the CD while the USB has been plugged in )18:41
ScottKshadeslayer: Please scribble that in the bug where I put "proposed release note:.18:41
shadeslayeralright18:41
Quintasanrbelem: pong18:45
rbelemQuintasan, did you start to work on maliit?18:46
Quintasanrbelem: I did18:48
QuintasanIt's halfway done18:48
QuintasanI want to have quality packaging for the framework18:48
rbelemQuintasan, you have just been added to maliit team in lp18:54
rbelemQuintasan, could you merge what you ve done to the stuff that is there?18:55
jussiRiddell: I just checked, seems there is a problem with policy kit - the muon updater doesnt work "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"18:59
yofelhm, fresh boot after installing oneiric amd64:19:02
yofelWarning notification: Local Folders: Maildir '' for collection '' is invalid.19:02
yofelo.O19:02
yofelwhat's that? akonadi or kmail?19:03
apacheloggerDarkwing: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidBugTriagePolicy19:03
apacheloggerwe do not track upstream bugs unless we want and can SRU them19:03
yofelunnamed app(1723) main: Migrator instance already running for type  "contact"19:06
* yofel wonders why the migrater would run on a clean install...19:06
Darkwingapachelogger: You're refering to the KSnapshot bug?19:14
apacheloggeryes19:14
ScottKyofel: I think Akonadi.19:15
ScottKyofel: Talk to claydoh.19:15
ScottKIt's probably safe to ignore.19:15
Darkwingapachelogger: My bad... :(19:15
yofelshould be, as akonadi isn't configured yet. Seems it warns about a non-existent database or so19:15
Quintasanrbelem: I think I can, but tomorrow19:18
Quintasanyofel: You gonna stay up long?19:18
yofelnot really, but for probably ~2 more hours19:19
rbelemQuintasan, thanks :-)19:19
Quintasanyofel: nvm then :P19:19
claydohyofel: ScottK thats new, but sounds like it is trying to migrate contacts/calendatrs, which happens on first boot - kmail happens on its fisrt run19:19
QuintasanScottK: Would you mind asking JT if he could check out how much a bottle of Dr. Pepper costs where he lives? I can't really catch him on IRC these days :S19:21
ScottKQuintasan: If I see him.  What size/type?19:21
QuintasanScottK: Like, normal 1l bottle or whatever near that they have19:23
* Quintasan has to pay like $1.5 for a can here19:23
ScottKSingle serving bottle, 2 Liter, can?19:23
yofelclaydoh: I attached xsession-errors to bug 872454 if you find something interesting19:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 872454 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "akonadi complains about invalid maildir after fresh install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87245419:23
ScottKAh.19:23
ScottKyofel: Please send upstream.19:24
QuintasanScottK: 2 liter? If they sell 2 liter bottles then one of my per diems is done for :O19:24
ScottKIt's far cheaper than the cans/single serving bottles.19:25
ScottKThis is starting to sound complicated.  You might email him.19:25
QuintasanScottK: Hmm, that did not occur to me, but I do not have his email :S19:26
ScottKUse the LP contact this user feature.19:26
ScottKIt emails him.19:26
* Quintasan headdesks19:26
QuintasanIt's clearly not my day.19:27
yofelScottK, claydoh: kde bug 28381919:30
ubottuKDE bug 283819 in general "akonadi complains about invalid maildir after fresh install" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28381919:30
Quintasanrbelem: Is it okay for me to overwrite maliit packaging there?19:46
rbelemQuintasan, yup19:47
rbelem:-)19:47
* ScottK notes a pretty huge amount of testing left: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all19:47
yofelI'll do some of the dvd ones19:51
* claydoh questions why he Turned strigi on, he must enjoy killing his laptop :(19:52
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yofelstrigi is pretty fine here once the initial indexing run is done19:53
ScottKapachelogger: Can you start uploading 4.7.2 to -proposed?19:54
ScottKMaybe Quintasan?19:55
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Quintasanrbelem: The problem with Maliit is that I do not know any way to run tests that require X server running in the builder19:57
Quintasanurgh those rules use dh619:58
rbelemQuintasan, just disable them19:58
ScottKQuintasan: You can often run them using xvfb.19:59
apacheloggerScottK: not before tomorrow eveningish20:06
ScottKOK.  Maybe Quintasan or debfx then.20:06
* ScottK is full up with $WORK.20:06
QuintasanJontheEchidna: See -> email20:20
QuintasanScottK: Does one need any special setups to upload to -proposed or I just dput it?20:20
dtchennothing special necessary20:23
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: You could probably get a two litre bottle for $1 or $1.50, off the top of my head.20:25
QuintasanJontheEchidna: You kidding? There goes my per diem20:25
JontheEchidnalol20:25
* Quintasan opens up a Dr. Pepper store20:25
Darkwingapachelogger: At UDS I want to sit down with you and start building a plan for the Kubuntu Startship Troopers.20:28
QuintasanDarkwing: Ya goin to UDS?20:31
DarkwingQuintasan: Aye20:32
QuintasanDarkwing: Awesome!20:32
DarkwingQuintasan: You are going to make it??20:33
* yofel is off to bed - good night20:33
QuintasanDarkwing: Looks like it20:33
Quintasanyofel: gn20:33
Darkwing^520:33
ScottKQuintasan: Open a tracking bug and then close the bug in changelog for all the uploads.20:44
ScottKOther than that, nothing special (target is oneiric-proposed vice oneiric)20:44
QuintasanScottK: Any example of such a bug?20:44
ScottKSure.  Just a minute20:45
ScottKQuintasan: Bug #859562 20:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 859562 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Natty) "SRU tracking bug for KDE 4.6.5" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85956220:45
QuintasanScottK: looks sane -> http://paste.kde.org/132541?20:55
Quintasans/natty/oneiric20:55
Quintasangrr20:55
ScottKQuintasan: If all you're doing is uploading, don't make it your upload, just edit the changelog to add the bug.20:57
Quintasank20:58
ScottKQuintasan: Like http://paste.kde.org/132547/20:59
ScottKOnly redo the whole changelog entry in your name if you actually fix something i the pakcaging before you upload.20:59
ScottKQuintasan: Also pimlibs/pim-runtime/pim are already done.21:00
QuintasanScottK: I also commit and push changes to our bzr branches, right?21:00
ScottKYes.21:00
CIA-130[kdelibs] Michal Zajac * 383 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)21:00
ScottKOnce there's a change for precious then you wouldn't.21:01
QuintasanScottK: libs uploaded, I'll do more tomorrow since school etc.21:03
ScottKOK.21:04
ScottKMaybe debfx will have time in the meantime.21:04
* ScottK just tested encrypted home and full disk encryption together.21:09
ScottKclaydoh: $WORK Is killing me.  Can you connect directly with skaet on making sure our release notes are in order?21:28
RiddellI can look over the release announce and HTMLify it tomorrow if needed21:40
Riddellclaydoh: ^^21:40
Riddellhmm, nepomuk goes a bit nuts if you are downloading a DVD :(21:41
apacheloggers/goes/is/ s/ if you are downloading a DVD//21:46
kubotuapachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"21:46
apacheloggerkubotu: you so mean :(21:46
* apachelogger goes to bed21:46
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