[09:13] <Peace-> :) the samba problem was only a windows problem...
[09:13] <Peace-> rbelem: 
[09:13] <Peace-> now it works 
[09:57] <Saviq> fregl: hi, I took the a11y performance issue from mardy, here's a demo app: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/705941/
[09:58] <fregl> Saviq: thanks, I'll have a look
[09:58] <Saviq> run that with QT_ACCESSIBILITY=0 - everything's fine, but with QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 the performance drops heavily, and there's a _lot_ of creating accessibles
[10:07] <Saviq> looks like it updates the a11y data all the time during animation, maybe it should only do that after animation stopped?
[10:17] <Peace-> bah muon is worse than kpakcagekit 
[10:17] <Peace-> searchin stuff with that is not confortable
[10:46] <Riddell> how's this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades/Kubuntu
[11:42] <rbelem> Peace-, pong
[11:42] <rbelem> Peace-, oh! nice :-D
[11:42] <Peace-> rbelem: oha'
[11:43] <Peace-> *ola'
[11:43] <rbelem> Peace-, if you find a bug or need help, ping me :-)
[11:43] <rbelem> ola' :-D
[11:45] <Peace-> rbelem: thanks ! 
[12:08] <afiestas> rbelem: I have problems with samba sharing
[12:08] <afiestas> let me see if I can still reproduce it
[12:10] <afiestas> rbelem: I have a folder mark as "Share with Samba" + Allow Guest + Everyone=Read Only
[12:11] <afiestas> when I browser with samba kio, I see thwe workgroun, I see the computer, i see the folder but when trying to access to it
[12:11] <afiestas> I can't, user/password is asked
[12:12] <afiestas> ups sorry, kio tells me that "Folder does not exists" now
[12:40] <Quintasan> rbelem: Uh, I forgot to tell you, changes look sane to me but ping me once again when the pacakge is ready (plasma-mobile)
[12:43] <Quintasan> ximion: I have been using Apper quite extensively this week and it mostly works
[12:43] <Quintasan> I think the problem I mentioned will arise whenever there is a multiarch-related conflict
[12:47] <ximion> Quintasan: possible... To solve some other problems, you can also open /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf and set MaximumItemsToResolve=3200 (instead of 100)
[12:47] <ximion> this caused some of the first issues
[12:47] <ximion> I already patched this for Debian
[12:50] <rbelem> Quintasan, nice :-)
[12:51] <rbelem> Quintasan, i will finish it today then :-)
[12:51] <rbelem> afiestas, :-/
[12:52] <rbelem> afiestas, do you have default samba configuration?
[12:52] <afiestas> rbelem: anyway I can debug that ?
[12:52] <afiestas> rbelem: kubuntu's
[12:52] <rbelem> afiestas, yup
[12:52] <rbelem> afiestas, try access it using smbclient
[12:53] <rbelem> afiestas, smbclient -U guest //localhost/<shared folder name>
[12:53] <rbelem> afiestas, for passwd just hit return
[12:55] <rbelem> afiestas, does it works?
[12:55] <afiestas> rbelem: testing
[12:56] <afiestas> smbclient -U guest //localhost/Public
[12:56] <afiestas> Enter guest's password: 
[12:56] <afiestas> Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.11]
[12:56] <afiestas> tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[12:57] <rbelem> afiestas, paste the output of net usershare info
[12:58] <afiestas> rbelem: http://paste.kde.org/132379/
[12:58] <rbelem> afiestas, it should be working
[12:59] <rbelem> afiestas, is samba properly installed? :-D
[13:00] <rbelem> afiestas, if yes, try apt-get install --reinstall samba
[13:03] <afiestas> will look into it later
[13:05] <rbelem> afiestas, :'(
[13:07] <apachelogger> uds or no uds, that is the question
[13:15] <afiestas> rbelem: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch12_:_Samba_Security_and_Troubleshooting
[13:15] <afiestas> rbelem: I'm starting to think that the problem goes deeper than just my setup
[13:15] <afiestas> can you check if yours is working in oneiric?
[13:15] <afiestas> or anyone using oneiric for that matter :p
[13:16] <rbelem> afiestas, it is working for me
[13:17] <rbelem> afiestas, with the samba default it should work
[13:18] <afiestas> rbelem: in oneiric?
[13:18] <afiestas> maybe samba packagers changed something
[13:18] <GirlyGirl> Samba works for me too on oneric and even a windows machine on the network finds it
[13:18] <rbelem> afiestas, yup
[13:18] <afiestas> GirlyGirl: can you access to the shared folder?
[13:18] <afiestas> is not enough if it appears
[13:18] <rbelem> afiestas, i installed it yesterday 
[13:18] <GirlyGirl> afiestas: let me check
[13:19] <afiestas> rbelem: apt-get install --reinstall samba didn't did the trick
[13:21] <rbelem> afiestas, is the smbclient result the same?
[13:21] <afiestas> rbelem: yes
[13:21] <afiestas> I tested it that way
[13:21] <afiestas> I'm using master, but I guess that doesn't matter since 
[13:21] <rbelem> afiestas, lets test one more thing
[13:21] <afiestas> net usershare info is returning valid info
[13:22] <GirlyGirl> afiestas: Working and I can acess the files, both from the same machine and on a network machine
[13:22] <rbelem> afiestas, sudo dpkg -P samba samba-common samba-common-bin
[13:22] <rbelem> afiestas, after that install samba again
[13:23] <afiestas> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:23] <afiestas>  samba-commo
[13:23] <afiestas> *common
[13:23] <rbelem> afiestas, dpkg -P --force-all samba samba-common samba-common-bin
[13:23] <rbelem> :-D
[13:25] <afiestas> rbelem: net usershare info returns nothing now
[13:25] <afiestas> should I share the folder again via interface?
[13:25] <rbelem> afiestas, nice :-)
[13:25] <rbelem> afiestas, yup
[13:26] <afiestas> rbelem: sme problem
[13:26] <afiestas> same output in both commands
[13:26] <afiestas> brb
[13:26] <GirlyGirl> afiestas: Try aptitude in place of apt
[13:26] <rbelem> afiestas, :-/
[13:28] <rbelem> afiestas, do you have firewall enabled?
[13:31] <afiestas> rbelem: not as far as I know
[13:32] <rbelem> what can be wrong??? o.O
[13:33] <afiestas> rbelem: maybe my system is lacking a user called guest?
[13:33] <rbelem> afiestas, nope
[13:33] <rbelem> afiestas, guest is nobody by default
[13:33] <rbelem> iirc
[13:34] <rbelem> afiestas, and your configuration is the default
[13:34] <afiestas> oh wait, maybe permissions?
[13:34] <afiestas> actual file system permissions?
[13:34] <rbelem> afiestas, hum...
[13:34] <afiestas> nah
[13:34] <rbelem> afiestas, try chmod 777 the folder
[13:35] <afiestas> rbelem: did it, didnt' work
[13:36] <rbelem> afiestas, may i have ssh access to you pc? :-D
[13:36] <afiestas> rbelem: nope
[13:36] <rbelem> afiestas, why not :'(
[13:37] <rbelem> afiestas, you dont trust me :'(
[13:37] <rbelem> afiestas, :-D
[13:37] <afiestas> beacuse I have logs where apachelogger and I rant about you
[13:37] <afiestas> :33
[13:37] <rbelem> hahahaha
[13:38] <rbelem> afiestas, do you have other pc that you could test?
[13:39] <afiestas> rbelem: with oneiric, no
[13:41] <rbelem> afiestas, could you update it? :-D
[13:41] <GirlyGirl> afiestas: or run a live cd and check
[13:43] <rbelem> GirlyGirl, great idea :-D
[13:43] <afiestas> rbelem: GirlyGirl will try in a virtualbox
[13:43] <apachelogger> rrrants
[13:44] <rbelem> apachelogger, could you gimme a second opnion on plasma-mobile pkg?
[13:44] <rbelem> :-D
[13:44] <apachelogger> opinion?
[13:45] <rbelem> thats it
[13:45] <apachelogger> I like it!
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[13:45] <afiestas> apachelogger: you go to the uds .
[13:46] <rbelem> apachelogger, it is not ready, the opnion would be about the way the pkg is split now
[13:46] <afiestas> that was an order
[13:46]  * apachelogger has too huge a phonon to take orders :P
[13:46] <apachelogger> rbelem: it is split?
[13:47] <rbelem> apachelogger, into more pkgs like plasma-active-data, plasma-active-browser and etc
[13:47] <apachelogger> oh yes
[13:47] <apachelogger> makes sense
[13:47] <rbelem> apachelogger, it is in the kubuntu-active ppa
[13:48] <afiestas> apachelogger: u.U !
[13:49]  * apachelogger has next to no motivation to secure finances for UDS
[13:49] <apachelogger> plus I still don't have a flight
[13:49] <apachelogger> and for organizing that I have actual negative motiviation 
[13:49] <rbelem> apachelogger, please go
[13:50] <rbelem> apachelogger, please please please please please :-D
[13:50] <apachelogger> if you book me a flight :P
[13:51] <rbelem> apachelogger, i dont have money to do that :'(
[13:51] <apachelogger> me neither, well, spread across 5 bank accounts maybe
[13:52] <apachelogger> this is all too much trouble really
[13:54] <afiestas> apachelogger: why you didn't ask for sponsorship?
[13:56] <apachelogger> I did
[13:56] <apachelogger> that does not help with first having to come up with the monies
[13:56] <GirlyGirl> apachelogger: no plans to remake ubuntuone-kde?
[13:56] <apachelogger> no
[13:56] <apachelogger> dropbox ftw!
[13:57] <GirlyGirl> apachelogger: already done that ... just wondering
[13:57] <afiestas> apachelogger:  can't you ask the travel agency ?
[13:57] <afiestas> they did everything for me
[13:57] <apachelogger> oh
[13:58] <apachelogger> afiestas: canonicals?
[13:58] <afiestas> apachelogger: yes
[13:58] <apachelogger> that'd be an option I suppose
[13:58] <afiestas> I just had to say "From Madrid to Orlando, then Orlando to Barcelona", they did the rest
[14:08] <Riddell> that is the preferred way
[14:08] <Riddell> claydoh: I'm behind on this but have you been doing the release pages this cycle and are you planning to do a final release page?
[14:26] <claydoh> Riddell: I have, with some good help :), I am actually working on it now, with a special section on kmail2 migration to reduce the headache levels
[14:28] <GirlyGirl> By any chance does kubuntu-default-settings remove the minimise button?
[14:32] <claydoh> ScottK: for the kmail migration notes, if you have some of your bugs handy I can list them, I think you have reduced the number greatly, so i will probably keep it to the most seen ones
[14:41] <Riddell> GirlyGirl: no (what a silly thing that would be)
[14:43] <GirlyGirl> Riddell: On the pre-release iso for me there was no minimise button
[14:43]  * Quintasan highfives afiestas
[14:43] <Quintasan> BlueDevil is absolutely awesome
[14:43] <GirlyGirl> Riddell: Maybe because it started with plasma-netbook first then I changed it to desktop
[14:44] <Riddell> GirlyGirl: that's quite likely
[14:54] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Any plans for a sane music player?
[14:54] <Quintasan> Amarok became something I use without any pleasure, sometimes it's even horrible
[14:55] <Quintasan> ximion: I can't extend Name row when browsing packages
[14:56] <Quintasan> It's nondraggable
[14:56] <Quintasan> Is that intended?
[14:57] <ximion> Quintasan: no, afaik not
[14:57] <ximion> maybe dantti changed this for some reason
[14:59]  * Quintasan tries bangarang meantime
[15:00] <apachelogger> Quintasan: tomahawk
[15:00] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I think it lacks music management skills atm
[15:01] <apachelogger> Quintasan: dolphin
[15:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Ah, You got me wondering how the hell is Dolphin supposed to play my music
[15:04] <Quintasan> I'm asking about serious music player
[15:04] <Quintasan> not "whatever you can stick Phonon in"
[15:04] <Quintasan> :P
[15:11] <ximion> Quintasan: Clementine! :P
[15:11] <Quintasan> ximion: It's not sane :P
[15:13] <apachelogger> write your own
[15:23] <cmagina>  term
[15:24] <GirlyGirl> Quintasan: juk
[15:24] <Quintasan> GirlyGirl: Tried, didn't like it
[15:24] <Quintasan> The winner is cmagina
[15:24] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ping
[15:24] <shadeslayer> pong
[15:24] <cmagina> haha, was actually meant for krunner ;)
[15:25] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Do you has any idea about how that semantic magic in Nepomuk works?
[15:25] <Quintasan> In terms of importing and exporting stuff
[15:25] <shadeslayer> uh .. importing and exporting stuff?
[15:26] <shadeslayer> i have a very basic idea
[15:26] <Quintasan> Yes, like existing tags
[15:26] <shadeslayer> after being explained the concept at DS and KDE India
[15:26] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:26] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it uses a rdf database, with custom entries and such
[15:26] <shadeslayer> you can probably use the API to fetch everything
[15:26] <shadeslayer> they're called SPARQL Queries
[15:27] <shadeslayer> or something like that
[15:28] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Hmm, I just had an great idea however I'm not sure if this is feasible
[15:28] <shadeslayer> shoot
[15:31] <yofel> bulldog98: ping
[16:36] <Peace-> Riddell: it's ok the upgrade page
[17:06] <bambee> evening
[17:06]  * bambee is overbooked
[17:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: y u no write g+ qtquick app?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> not motivated enough
[17:54] <shadeslayer> and no time
[17:59] <shadeslayer> Add no electricity to that
[17:59] <shadeslayer> Currently, I'm getting somewhere close to around just 4-8 hours of electricity a day
[18:01] <yofel> @_@
[18:16] <shadeslayer> sheytan: ping ping ping
[18:17] <shadeslayer> sheytan: come over to #kde-doc-camp
[18:17] <ScottK> claydoh: I think you know best.  Need to be closing in on the release notes as a whole.
[18:22] <yofel> ScottK: got a plan for 4.7.2 for -updates?
[18:22] <ScottK> Once we're sure we aren't going to respin, we should start uploading.
[18:22] <yofel> k
[18:24]  * shadeslayer would like to see the CD/DVD drive fix in before the last ISO spin
[18:27] <rbelem> Quintasan, ping
[18:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: but it is not even no work
[18:30] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/7GSQT.png
[18:33] <shadeslayer> now i shall have nightmares
[18:33] <shadeslayer> for the next week
[18:34] <ScottK> shadeslayer: What bug?
[18:34] <ScottK> Please be testing people ...
[18:35] <shadeslayer> ScottK: the one where the kernel cannot detect the DVD drive
[18:35] <yofel> not again...
[18:35] <shadeslayer> and thus topples over when trying to find a live file system
[18:35] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I mean what number?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> oh one sec
[18:36] <yofel> *that* is mac-specific though
[18:36] <shadeslayer> bug 782389
[18:36] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:36]  * yofel looks for work on iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <shadeslayer> They're waiting for it to be integrated into the linus tree and will patch it in the ubuntu kernel
[18:37] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No way to get the for release.
[18:37] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yeah, so the ISO's won't work on the newer Macs then
[18:38] <shadeslayer> the Macbook Pro (8,1) , (8,2) and (8,3)
[18:38] <ScottK> It's physically impossible to get a new kernel out without delaying the release, so that's the deal.
[18:38] <shadeslayer> well, the only way to install it is to use both a CD and a USB disk then :P
[18:39] <shadeslayer> sheytan: btw this is kinda urgent
[18:40] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I put that in to go into the release notes.
[18:40] <shadeslayer> alright
[18:41] <shadeslayer> ScottK: could you also mention how to boot it successfully? ( you need to write the image to both a CD and a USB and boot with the CD while the USB has been plugged in )
[18:41] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Please scribble that in the bug where I put "proposed release note:.
[18:41] <shadeslayer> alright
[18:45] <Quintasan> rbelem: pong
[18:46] <rbelem> Quintasan, did you start to work on maliit?
[18:48] <Quintasan> rbelem: I did
[18:48] <Quintasan> It's halfway done
[18:48] <Quintasan> I want to have quality packaging for the framework
[18:54] <rbelem> Quintasan, you have just been added to maliit team in lp
[18:55] <rbelem> Quintasan, could you merge what you ve done to the stuff that is there?
[18:59] <jussi> Riddell: I just checked, seems there is a problem with policy kit - the muon updater doesnt work "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"
[19:02] <yofel> hm, fresh boot after installing oneiric amd64:
[19:02] <yofel> Warning notification: Local Folders: Maildir '' for collection '' is invalid.
[19:02] <yofel> o.O
[19:03] <yofel> what's that? akonadi or kmail?
[19:03] <apachelogger> Darkwing: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidBugTriagePolicy
[19:03] <apachelogger> we do not track upstream bugs unless we want and can SRU them
[19:06] <yofel> unnamed app(1723) main: Migrator instance already running for type  "contact"
[19:06]  * yofel wonders why the migrater would run on a clean install...
[19:14] <Darkwing> apachelogger: You're refering to the KSnapshot bug?
[19:14] <apachelogger> yes
[19:15] <ScottK> yofel: I think Akonadi.
[19:15] <ScottK> yofel: Talk to claydoh.
[19:15] <ScottK> It's probably safe to ignore.
[19:15] <Darkwing> apachelogger: My bad... :(
[19:15] <yofel> should be, as akonadi isn't configured yet. Seems it warns about a non-existent database or so
[19:18] <Quintasan> rbelem: I think I can, but tomorrow
[19:18] <Quintasan> yofel: You gonna stay up long?
[19:19] <yofel> not really, but for probably ~2 more hours
[19:19] <rbelem> Quintasan, thanks :-)
[19:19] <Quintasan> yofel: nvm then :P
[19:19] <claydoh> yofel: ScottK thats new, but sounds like it is trying to migrate contacts/calendatrs, which happens on first boot - kmail happens on its fisrt run
[19:21] <Quintasan> ScottK: Would you mind asking JT if he could check out how much a bottle of Dr. Pepper costs where he lives? I can't really catch him on IRC these days :S
[19:21] <ScottK> Quintasan: If I see him.  What size/type?
[19:23] <Quintasan> ScottK: Like, normal 1l bottle or whatever near that they have
[19:23]  * Quintasan has to pay like $1.5 for a can here
[19:23] <ScottK> Single serving bottle, 2 Liter, can?
[19:23] <yofel> claydoh: I attached xsession-errors to bug 872454 if you find something interesting
[19:23] <ScottK> Ah.
[19:24] <ScottK> yofel: Please send upstream.
[19:24] <Quintasan> ScottK: 2 liter? If they sell 2 liter bottles then one of my per diems is done for :O
[19:25] <ScottK> It's far cheaper than the cans/single serving bottles.
[19:25] <ScottK> This is starting to sound complicated.  You might email him.
[19:26] <Quintasan> ScottK: Hmm, that did not occur to me, but I do not have his email :S
[19:26] <ScottK> Use the LP contact this user feature.
[19:26] <ScottK> It emails him.
[19:26]  * Quintasan headdesks
[19:27] <Quintasan> It's clearly not my day.
[19:30] <yofel> ScottK, claydoh: kde bug 283819
[19:46] <Quintasan> rbelem: Is it okay for me to overwrite maliit packaging there?
[19:47] <rbelem> Quintasan, yup
[19:47] <rbelem> :-)
[19:47]  * ScottK notes a pretty huge amount of testing left: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
[19:51] <yofel> I'll do some of the dvd ones
[19:52]  * claydoh questions why he Turned strigi on, he must enjoy killing his laptop :(
[19:53] <yofel> strigi is pretty fine here once the initial indexing run is done
[19:54] <ScottK> apachelogger: Can you start uploading 4.7.2 to -proposed?
[19:55] <ScottK> Maybe Quintasan?
[19:57] <Quintasan> rbelem: The problem with Maliit is that I do not know any way to run tests that require X server running in the builder
[19:58] <Quintasan> urgh those rules use dh6
[19:58] <rbelem> Quintasan, just disable them
[19:59] <ScottK> Quintasan: You can often run them using xvfb.
[20:06] <apachelogger> ScottK: not before tomorrow eveningish
[20:06] <ScottK> OK.  Maybe Quintasan or debfx then.
[20:06]  * ScottK is full up with $WORK.
[20:20] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: See -> email
[20:20] <Quintasan> ScottK: Does one need any special setups to upload to -proposed or I just dput it?
[20:23] <dtchen> nothing special necessary
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: You could probably get a two litre bottle for $1 or $1.50, off the top of my head.
[20:25] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: You kidding? There goes my per diem
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> lol
[20:25]  * Quintasan opens up a Dr. Pepper store
[20:28] <Darkwing> apachelogger: At UDS I want to sit down with you and start building a plan for the Kubuntu Startship Troopers.
[20:31] <Quintasan> Darkwing: Ya goin to UDS?
[20:32] <Darkwing> Quintasan: Aye
[20:32] <Quintasan> Darkwing: Awesome!
[20:33] <Darkwing> Quintasan: You are going to make it??
[20:33]  * yofel is off to bed - good night
[20:33] <Quintasan> Darkwing: Looks like it
[20:33] <Quintasan> yofel: gn
[20:33] <Darkwing> ^5
[20:44] <ScottK> Quintasan: Open a tracking bug and then close the bug in changelog for all the uploads.
[20:44] <ScottK> Other than that, nothing special (target is oneiric-proposed vice oneiric)
[20:44] <Quintasan> ScottK: Any example of such a bug?
[20:45] <ScottK> Sure.  Just a minute
[20:45] <ScottK> Quintasan: Bug #859562 
[20:55] <Quintasan> ScottK: looks sane -> http://paste.kde.org/132541?
[20:55] <Quintasan> s/natty/oneiric
[20:55] <Quintasan> grr
[20:57] <ScottK> Quintasan: If all you're doing is uploading, don't make it your upload, just edit the changelog to add the bug.
[20:58] <Quintasan> k
[20:59] <ScottK> Quintasan: Like http://paste.kde.org/132547/
[20:59] <ScottK> Only redo the whole changelog entry in your name if you actually fix something i the pakcaging before you upload.
[21:00] <ScottK> Quintasan: Also pimlibs/pim-runtime/pim are already done.
[21:00] <Quintasan> ScottK: I also commit and push changes to our bzr branches, right?
[21:00] <ScottK> Yes.
[21:00] <CIA-130> [kdelibs] Michal Zajac * 383 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)
[21:01] <ScottK> Once there's a change for precious then you wouldn't.
[21:03] <Quintasan> ScottK: libs uploaded, I'll do more tomorrow since school etc.
[21:04] <ScottK> OK.
[21:04] <ScottK> Maybe debfx will have time in the meantime.
[21:09]  * ScottK just tested encrypted home and full disk encryption together.
[21:28] <ScottK> claydoh: $WORK Is killing me.  Can you connect directly with skaet on making sure our release notes are in order?
[21:40] <Riddell> I can look over the release announce and HTMLify it tomorrow if needed
[21:40] <Riddell> claydoh: ^^
[21:41] <Riddell> hmm, nepomuk goes a bit nuts if you are downloading a DVD :(
[21:46] <apachelogger> s/goes/is/ s/ if you are downloading a DVD//
[21:46] <kubotu> apachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[21:46] <apachelogger> kubotu: you so mean :(
[21:46]  * apachelogger goes to bed