[01:00] <adidas> How does one go about setting up audio drivers on Ubuntu Server on an 6-8 year old dell, and should I be using OSS or ALSA?
[01:48] <SejmL> hello
[01:49] <SejmL> is there any way to change the audio input jack into an output one?
[02:26] <holstein> SejmL: you can try JACK, but that hardware
[02:37] <holstein> SejmL: i meant to say, thats hardware... that function is going to be hardware AFAIK
[07:26] <w47331> hello all
[07:40] <w47331> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a20763398876e16c4ff67b07823edd709f4eb7b0   sound help please...i hear nothing
[13:10] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha, I've got a problem with grub not finding all installations
[13:12] <holstein> hello MrChrisDruif
[13:12] <MrChrisDruif> Hai holstein
[13:13] <holstein> im about to run out the door, but i would probably try reinstalling grub, then i would just add them manually if they were still not picked up auto-magically
[13:13] <holstein> i would be suspicous as to why they are not being picked up though...
[13:14] <MrChrisDruif> http://paste.ubuntu.com/705657/ <= sudo fdisk -l
[13:24] <geirha> ... and?
[13:25] <MrChrisDruif> sda1 is Lubuntu 11.10. sda3 is Ubuntu 11.04
[13:26] <MrChrisDruif> I can only boot to Lubuntu 11.10
[13:27] <MrChrisDruif> And "sudo update-grub" can't seem to find the Ubuntu on sda3, only the two kernel versions for Lubuntu
[13:30] <holstein> MrChrisDruif: i think the file you need to edit starts with "#do not edit this file" ;)
[13:31] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, it's always the same !@$# ;-)
[13:31] <geirha> MrChrisDruif: Did you install Lubuntu last?
[13:31] <holstein> you should see the other entries there, and you can mimic them for the other install thats not getting picked up
[13:31] <geirha> And during the install, did you specify where to install grub?
[13:32] <geirha> If not, then Lubuntu can't find Ubuntu, because Lubuntu's grub overwrote Ubuntu's.
[13:32] <holstein> but, it should just search all drives for kernels right?
[13:32] <MrChrisDruif> I thought I told the installer to install them side-by-side <_<"
[13:32] <holstein> osprober or whatever it is looks for installs not boot entries right?
[13:33] <MrChrisDruif> Thought so, and it is installed
[13:33] <geirha> I thought it only looked for bootloaders
[13:33] <MrChrisDruif> How would it find Windows then?
[13:33] <holstein> geirha: and thats more of a question really...
[13:33] <holstein> im not 100% on that
[13:34] <geirha> If it did search for kernels, how would it know which partitions to use as root for those kernels?
[13:34] <pip__> holstein: are you in the room?
[13:35] <holstein> pip__: for a bit... whats up?
[13:35] <pip__> oh nothing, you gave me a tip the other day, graphics probs
[13:35] <pip__> thought I'd update you
[13:35] <geirha> MrChrisDruif: Windows will have a bootloader of sorts on the partition.
[13:35] <holstein> sure... how goes the battle pip__ ?
[13:36] <geirha> MrChrisDruif: Chroot into the Ubuntu system and install its grub on /dev/sda1
[13:36] <pip__> lol, so-so.  I can't enable desktop effects in a live 10.10 environment, but a live 11.04 environment runs Unity
[13:36] <pip__> any idea what that's about?
[13:37] <pip__> the internet seems less 'wobbly' with 11.04 too
[13:37] <holstein> pip__: kernel verion? maybe something about the drivers for your hardware
[13:38] <pip__> ah, you know I wasn't bright enough to note them :-/
[13:38] <holstein> pip__: i could imagine some ATI hardware that would only work with the proprietary driver getting open driver support in a newer kernel verion
[13:38] <holstein> version*
[13:38] <holstein> pip__: eh... its a live CD.. you can do it next time :)
[13:39] <pip__> I'm pretty certain that the 10.10 kernel version that wouldn't give effects was 2.6.35, that was on a real install
[13:39] <holstein> im just speculating though...
[13:40] <pip__> lol, it's better than nothing at this point
[13:40] <holstein> no reason *not* to install 11.10 now though
[13:40] <pip__> well, that's exactly what I'm thinking
[13:40] <holstein> or, just dont do compiz
[13:40] <pip__> but compiz is soooooooooooooooo pretty
[13:40] <holstein> wobbly windows are fun and all, but i dont use compiz on everything
[13:41] <pip__> I don'tdoowobbly, mainly the cube & some emerald decoration TBH
[13:41] <pip__> don'tdo wobbly, even
[13:42] <pip__> I'm assuming that there are still issues with the cube & stuff with unity
[13:42] <holstein> i wouldnt know
[13:42] <pip__> That asidethough if Unity's a little more stable now I'd like to give it another go
[13:43] <holstein> unity-2d is nice and light
[13:43] <holstein> or was when i checked it out
[13:43] <pip__> there were just a couple of things that niggled me in Unity 3d so I went back to 10.10.
[13:43] <pip__> yeah, that's an idea...
[13:43] <pip__> 2d I mean
[13:44] <holstein> you can run gnome in 11.04
[13:44] <holstein> gnome2... its 11.10 that will have gnome3
[13:44] <pip__> I found that a touch twitchy too TBH, ergo the step back
[13:45] <holstein> eh.. if i were stepping back, id go to the LTS... 10.04
[13:45] <holstein> thats what im running
[13:45] <holstein> anyways... i gotta run... later all
[13:45] <pip__> thanks holstein ttfn
[19:29] <oscar> hi i am having boot problems any help appriciated