[02:17] <jacknix> hola, all
[02:17] <jacknix> anyone using puppy?
[09:57] <head_victim> Evening all, Asia/Oceania Membership meeting coming up
[10:03] <ashickur-noor> Hello there
[10:03] <ashickur-noor> is Asia and Oceania regional approval board started?
[10:04] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: I've arrived, awaiting other members for now
[10:04] <ashickur-noor> Ok
[10:06] <head_victim> Destine, persia, ejat, elky, lifeless, freeflying - ping :)
[10:07] <Destine> head_victim, ready~
[10:07] <head_victim> Cool, that's 2 of us, need another 2 for quorum.
[10:08] <ejat> pong
[10:09] <head_victim> Ok, that's 3, down to one needed :)
[10:13] <elky> head_victim, hi
[10:13] <head_victim> Cool, so that's quorum.
[10:14] <freeflying> hi
[10:15] <head_victim> Yay a fifth, any volunteers for chair?
[10:15] <elky> I'm a bit distracted, so best someone else does it
[10:16] <head_victim> Ok I can start it then :)
[10:16] <head_victim> #startmeeting
[10:16] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 11 10:16:29 2011 UTC.  The chair is head_victim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[10:16] <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania
[10:17] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: how about you give us a brief introduction while people have a few minutes to read over your application
[10:17] <Destine> head_victim, oh, he is timed out.
[10:17] <head_victim> Well that's a good start
[10:18] <head_victim> We should all read over the application now anyway, they're bound to reconnect in a couple of minutes.
[10:18] <Destine> head_victim, already read.
[10:18] <elky> same
[10:18] <head_victim> Cool
[10:19] <head_victim> Well another topic I wanted to bring up was the scheduling of the meetings. Most other boards tend to meet monthly and with the current number of applicants I don't think that's too bad an idea.
[10:20] <elky> i like the idea of monthly
[10:20] <Destine> head_victim, agreed. However, I think it can be flexible. We can arrange extra meetings if we have a lot of applicants.
[10:20] <head_victim> If we start getting large numbers of applicants we can't get through we could easily go back to twice a month if the need arisings
[10:21] <head_victim> Destine: exactly what I was thinking :)
[10:21] <Destine> I do hope we can have more applicants. I wish we can be a little bit busy really.
[10:23] <head_victim> I saw a blog on the planet encouraging membership recently actually. It's probably somethign we could all assist with. I'm sure we all know people who are suited to becoming Ubuntu members that aren't
[10:23] <freeflying> Destine: I bet if we speak Chinese, applicants will flood in :)
[10:23] <Destine> freeflying, I guess so. :)
[10:24] <head_victim> I'm sure there is a Ubuntu member int he Chinese team that would be willing to assist with the translations
[10:24] <head_victim> And of course as long as the application is in early enough there is always google translate
[10:24] <freeflying> head_victim: but still language is a gap :)
[10:24] <ejat> still not rejoin ?
[10:25] <head_victim> ejat: apparently not :/
[10:25] <Destine> freeflying, sure. Encourage them to learn English then.
[10:25]  * Destine call for ashickur...
[10:26] <head_victim> So are we comfortable on reaching consensus on making the meeting monthly?
[10:26] <Destine> head_victim, +1
[10:26] <freeflying> +1
[10:26] <elky> +1
[10:27] <head_victim> Ok well when writing up the next meeting times I'll post it for the second Tuesday of next month
[10:27] <ejat> +1
[10:28] <head_victim> Ashickur appears to have dropped offline
[10:28] <head_victim> #Agreed Change meetings to monthly for now, revisit if applications pick up to the point of not getting through them in a meeting
[10:29] <head_victim> Anyone willing to email ashickur to get them to follow up next month?
[10:31] <head_victim> #action head_victim to email follow up to ashickur
[10:31] <meetingology> ACTION: head_victim to email follow up to ashickur
[10:31] <head_victim> Alright, anyone have any other business?
[10:33] <Destine> head_victim, I guess he is back.
[10:34] <ashickur-noor> Sorry
[10:34] <Destine> elky, ejat freeflying ping.
[10:34] <Destine> the applicant is back.
[10:34] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: can you give us a quick introduction, we were about to close off the meeting
[10:34] <elky> still here
[10:35] <ashickur-noor> About me?
[10:35] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: yep, a brief, 1 - 2 sentence rundown of your acitivities
[10:36] <ashickur-noor> Currently am working as a moderator of Bengali Linux forum
[10:36] <ashickur-noor> and Another open Source Forum in Bangladesh
[10:37] <ashickur-noor> Volunteer of FOSS Bangladesh
[10:37] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: thanks, I notice on your wiki page you mention 2 events recently. Were they Ubuntu centric and what was your level of involvement?
[10:38] <ashickur-noor> I was in charge of the Linux installation booth
[10:39] <ashickur-noor> on SFD 2011 Bangladesh
[10:39] <elky> But it wasn't Ubuntu specific?
[10:39] <ashickur-noor> On Linux Day I was volunteer and ast. coordinator of International communications
[10:40] <ashickur-noor> Yes I have installed Ubuntu about 5 laptops
[10:40] <ashickur-noor> And give support about 15 person
[10:40] <ashickur-noor> Regarding Ubuntu
[10:41] <Destine> ashickur-noor, anything else? Like specific things in Ubuntu Bangladesh LoCo?
[10:41] <ashickur-noor> I was active on Ubuntu LoCo when it was lively
[10:42] <ashickur-noor> Our mailing list is active
[10:42] <ashickur-noor> And I am an active member of  this  list
[10:42] <ashickur-noor> I also give support in our Bengali forum regarding to Ubuntu
[10:43] <ashickur-noor> Currently I am working on A Ubuntu Bengali guide
[10:44] <head_victim> Ok, Ubuntu membership is for people providing sustained and significant contributions to the Ubuntu community.
[10:44] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: is that translation of the official documentation or an offshoot?
[10:44] <ashickur-noor> It is an offshoot
[10:45] <ashickur-noor> Coz I know what our fellow user want
[10:45] <ashickur-noor> And what trouble new user face to Use Ubuntu in First place
[10:46] <head_victim> Ok, does anyone else have any questions?
[10:46] <Destine> head_victim, nope.
[10:47] <elky> head_victim, nope
[10:47] <head_victim> freeflying?
[10:49] <head_victim> Well we've gone and lost quorum :/
[10:50] <Destine> head_victim, i am trying to reach freeflying.
[10:55] <elky> i will try tweeting at ejat
[10:55] <head_victim> Thanks, this shouldn't be this hard :/
[10:56] <freeflying> sorry, qwas away
[10:56] <elky> ah there we go
[10:56] <freeflying> no question for me
[10:56] <head_victim> Ok so I'll start the vote, please only board members vote
[10:57] <head_victim> #vote on to accept ashickur-noor as a Ubuntu Member , reply with +1 for yes, -1 for no and +0 for abstaining
[10:57] <meetingology> Please vote on: on to accept ashickur-noor as a Ubuntu Member , reply with +1 for yes, -1 for no and +0 for abstaining
[10:57] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[10:57] <freeflying> +0
[10:57] <meetingology> +0 received from freeflying
[10:57] <elky> +0 Not enough work in the ubuntu community. I'd love to see you get the loco going again, i'm sure you can do that
[10:58] <meetingology> +0 Not enough work in the ubuntu community. I'd love to see you get the loco going again, i'm sure you can do that received from elky
[10:58] <Destine> +0 I am not quite sure about the contributions.
[10:58] <meetingology> +0 I am not quite sure about the contributions. received from Destine
[10:58] <head_victim> +0 I would like to see more Ubuntu specific involvement and possibly some testimonials from those who have seen your work as it relates to your application documentation.
[10:58] <meetingology> +0 I would like to see more Ubuntu specific involvement and possibly some testimonials from those who have seen your work as it relates to your application documentation. received from head_victim
[10:58] <head_victim> #endvote
[10:58] <meetingology> Voting ended on: on to accept ashickur-noor as a Ubuntu Member , reply with +1 for yes, -1 for no and +0 for abstaining
[10:58] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:4
[10:58] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[10:58] <elky> AlanBell, whaaaaa...
[10:59] <AlanBell> is that a bug?
[10:59] <elky> AlanBell, where's the deadlock?
[10:59] <elky> don't tell me we have to give negatives...
[10:59] <AlanBell> hmm, you have an equal number of +1 and -1 (zero of each)
[11:00] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: while your contributions to FOSS in your local area appear to be growing which is good, the feedback seems to be that it might need to focus more on Ubuntu (or at least have some testimonials from those who assist in organising these events with backing up detail)
[11:00] <elky> AlanBell, yeah, but this is still a valid vote.
[11:01] <AlanBell> lets discuss the voting logic after the meeting
[11:01] <head_victim> Does anyone have any more specific feedback for ashickur-noor about his application?
[11:02] <Destine> ashickur-noor, please make more contributions specificly to Ubuntu and come back to re-apply.
[11:03] <elky> i think he's quite capable of getting the loco doing events and things. I'd love to see him back after more work focussed there
[11:03] <elky> sigh.
[11:03] <head_victim> Ok, well I'll endmeeting if no one else has anything to say?
[11:03] <elky> he probably didn't even see the voting
[11:03] <elky> yeah endmeeting
[11:04] <Destine> head_victim, yup, timed out.
[11:04] <ashickur-noor> Sorry
[11:04] <Destine> ashickur-noor, oh, you are back.
[11:04] <head_victim> #endmeeting
[11:04] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 11 11:04:18 2011 UTC.
[11:04] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-11-10.16.moin.txt
[11:04] <ashickur-noor> Internet connection Problem
[11:04] <ashickur-noor> ya
[11:04] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: see the link there titled "minutes", that is where the vote details will be, sorry was finished typing endmeeting when you popped back in
[11:05] <ashickur-noor> ya I see that
[11:05] <ashickur-noor> now what will I do?
[11:05] <ashickur-noor> Our LoCo is totally dead
[11:05] <head_victim> Essentially the feedback seems to revolve around your current contributions don't seem to be overly related to Ubuntu (they might be but they're not documented as such) so the suggestion is toeither focus more on the Ubuntu side of things and document it as such and then come back and reapply :)
[11:06] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: can you translate?
[11:06] <ashickur-noor> ya
[11:06] <head_victim> If you've organised FOSS events you can organise Ubuntu events.
[11:06] <ashickur-noor> I can
[11:06] <head_victim> Or even just lead up a Ubuntu section to a different FOSS event
[11:06] <ashickur-noor> I know
[11:06] <lifeless> bwah
[11:06] <lifeless> hi
[11:06] <lifeless> I think I missed the meeting
[11:07] <head_victim> The events you've posted may ahve been like that but without details or testimonials from other peol who were there we aren't able to determine that
[11:07] <head_victim> lifeless: just
[11:07] <lifeless> 11pm + new baby == ETIMING
[11:07] <ashickur-noor> Hum
[11:07] <elky> lifeless, i saw the pics, she's *gorgeous*
[11:07] <head_victim> lifeless: we have resolved to meet monthly instead of twice monthly which will reduce the burden. The only proviso is that if we get more applications that we can't get through in a meeting we move back to twice a month.
[11:08] <ashickur-noor> But our prevoius LoCo don't let me to organise such event
[11:08] <elky> ashickur-noor, what do you mean they don't let you?
[11:08] <lifeless> elky: thanks :)
[11:08] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: well as long as you follow the CoC there's nothing really stopping you :)
[11:08] <lifeless> head_victim: its not a burden so much as just thats when she is screaming her head off cause she has wind :)
[11:09] <ashickur-noor> Thnx for advice
[11:10] <elky> lifeless, did she get a bit jaundiced?
[11:11] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: the bd team looks to have an active mailing list
[11:11] <lifeless> elky: yeah, bright yellow for a few days; didn't need the sunlam though (but got to about 95% of the way there
[11:12] <head_victim> I'd suggest trying to join in there and spark some more inovolvement. If you're having problems running events because you're being told not to then I'd suggest raising that in #ubuntu-locoteams as no loco should ever discourage users from running events without good reason
[11:12] <head_victim> I will write up the meeting and email the team in the next day or two if no one beats me to it.
[11:12] <head_victim> And on that note, I have to run for some domestic duties of my own
[11:12] <elky> lifeless, eep. glad she's ok. sick babies are heartbreaking
[11:12] <ashickur-noor> I don't know how much I can contribute to my Ubuntu LoCo
[11:12] <lifeless> elky: shes terribly healthy
[11:12] <elky> ashickur-noor, feel free to ask advice in #ubuntu-locoteams :)
[11:13] <elky> lifeless, well the yellowness bit is what i meant
[11:13] <lifeless> elky: 4140g now, growing steadily about 30g a day
[11:13] <ashickur-noor> I will contribute to my Local Ubuntu user as long I live
[11:13] <lifeless> elky: a huge fraction of babies get that; we didn't worry at all
[11:13] <ashickur-noor> Thanks for your support
[11:13] <Destine> ashickur-noor, hey, take it easy. Be comfortable.
[11:13] <lifeless> elky: its not like adult jaundice
[11:13] <elky> lifeless, ah
[11:13] <lifeless> elky: (you probably know this :P)
[11:13] <elky> didn't actually no
[11:13] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: no problems, we're here to help as well as vote :) Feel free to ask advice if you come across problems
[11:14] <ashickur-noor> I need to active our LoCo
[11:14] <lifeless> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002526/
[11:14] <lifeless> elky: ^
[11:14] <ashickur-noor> I am trying it for few months
[11:14] <lifeless> elky: handover from placenta to liver of bilirubin recycling
[11:14] <ashickur-noor> But no Luck
[11:14] <elky> ah
[11:15] <lifeless> elky: vs adult jaundice where the liver is failing (or similar)
[11:15] <ashickur-noor> So I have decided I will
[11:15] <elky> ashickur-noor, always feel welcome to ask advice of people who are succeeding at it elsewhere
[11:15] <ashickur-noor> work as I work for my fellow Users
[11:15] <ashickur-noor> Thnkx for your advice
[11:15] <Destine> ashickur-noor, come here and we can discuss about the problems you encounter.
[11:16] <ashickur-noor> I need to sign off
[11:16] <elky> Well not here here.
[11:16] <elky> but ask us or in #ubuntu-locoteams
[11:16] <elky> Have a good night, ashickur-noor
[11:16] <Destine> ashickur-noor, yup, irc channel.
[11:16] <elky> lifeless, ah. makes sense
[11:16] <ashickur-noor> Bye every body
[11:16] <Destine> ashickur-noor, good luck.
[11:16] <ashickur-noor> I need to attend the opening ceremony of Our FOSS Bangladesh forum
[11:16] <ashickur-noor> Thnx again
[11:17] <Destine> elky, I somehow feel a little bit sorry for this.
[11:18] <elky> Destine, don't. He'll be fine
[11:19] <Destine> elky, ok, guess I am not quite experienced yet.
[11:19] <elky> Destine, that's ok. *hugs*
[11:20] <Destine> elky, thanks, elky. You are always here.
[11:20] <elky> :)
[11:20] <elky> i need to go to bed now, so g'nite :)
[11:21] <serfus> something i'm not certain about is how would one know when to apply for membership after rejected
[11:21] <Destine> elky, good night. :)
[11:21] <AlanBell> night elky
[11:21] <AlanBell> anyone want to discuss voting logic for deadlocks?
[11:21]  * Destine listening.
[11:22] <AlanBell> so at the moment if the sum of all votes is zero it declares a deadlock
[11:23] <AlanBell> some councils have a leader who has a casting vote, notably sabdfl on technical board and community council
[11:24] <AlanBell> if you specify a non zero value using #votesrequired then it won't deadlock
[11:24] <AlanBell> so you can do #votesrequired 2
[11:24] <AlanBell> then if the sum is 1 the vote fails, if the sum is 2 the vote passes, no deadlock
[11:25] <Destine> AlanBell, what about we set #votesrequired 1?
[11:25] <AlanBell> what is the rule for the membership board? how many votes are needed?
[11:25] <AlanBell> Destine: that would probably have the desired result
[11:26] <AlanBell> 0 would be a fail, 1 or above would be a pass
[11:26] <Destine> AlanBell, yes.
[11:27] <AlanBell> I should update the documentation with that suggestion I think
[11:28] <AlanBell> elky: "#votesrequired 1" before the vote would set it up right I think
[11:28] <Destine> AlanBell, she is going to bed now.
[11:30] <AlanBell> yeah, but she will see that in the morning
[11:31] <Destine> AlanBell, I see.
[11:44] <head_victim> AlanBell: so instead of logging the #vote command you log a #votesrequired N ? Or do you do one than the other?
[11:45] <head_victim> serfus: if you're rejected on your first application there's no reason you can't reapply at any stage you feel you're ready again.
[11:46] <AlanBell> head_victim: one then the other
[11:47] <head_victim> Ok so #votesrequired N and then on a separate line #vote
[11:47] <AlanBell> yes
[11:47] <head_victim> That sounds pretty good actually, just got to remember it :)
[11:47] <AlanBell> #startmeeting voting test
[11:47] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 11 11:47:28 2011 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[11:47] <AlanBell> #votesrequired 1
[11:47] <meetingology> votes now need 1 to be passed
[11:47] <head_victim> +1
[11:47] <head_victim> Ah yeah doesn't register with just the votes required
[11:48] <AlanBell> #vote voting rules are awesome
[11:48] <meetingology> Please vote on: voting rules are awesome
[11:48] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[11:48] <AlanBell> +1
[11:48] <meetingology> +1 received from AlanBell
[11:48] <AlanBell> #voters AlanBell head_victim
[11:48] <meetingology> Current voters: AlanBell head_victim
[11:48] <AlanBell> now nobody else can vote
[11:49] <AlanBell> so for membership meetings you can stop random passers by and supporters from voting
[11:49] <AlanBell> +0
[11:49] <meetingology> +0 received from AlanBell
[11:49] <AlanBell> I can change my vote until the vote closes
[11:49] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[11:49] <meetingology> Voting ended on: voting rules are awesome
[11:49] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[11:49] <meetingology> Motion denied
[11:49] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 11 11:49:38 2011 UTC.
[11:49] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-11-11.47.moin.txt
[11:50] <head_victim> Cool
[11:50] <AlanBell> and #endmeeting calls #endvote before it closes the meeting so you can see that the motion was denied with 1 absention
[11:50] <head_victim> Your bot is quite flexible
[11:51] <AlanBell> :) I wanted to cover all the different voting rules we have kicking about
[11:58] <head_victim> AlanBell: just need a degree to drive the bot ;)
[11:59]  * AlanBell awards head_victim a PhB
[12:15] <head_victim> AlanBell: that's two grades better than a PhD!
[12:21] <serfus> head_victim, what i'm actually asking is how would i know when i'm ready again
[12:21] <serfus> after all, i did apply only because i thought i was member worthy
[12:22] <head_victim> serfus: ask for some feedback :) I wasn't sure if you were asking for yourself or not so didn't want to assume. Basically when you applied the first time did you receive any feedback as to what areas might have needed some attention?
[12:22] <serfus> not something specific enough as i recall
[12:23] <serfus> every one gave me 0, and said i do contribute, just not enough or something similar
[12:24] <head_victim> Ok, I find a lot of the time people think they're doing enough and aren't approved is their documentation may be a bit on the low side, do you have a link to your wiki page?
[12:24] <serfus> yup, but i didn't updated it since
[12:25] <serfus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/serfus
[12:25] <serfus> in your opinion, testimonials of non ubuntu member counts?
[12:25] <head_victim> Depends on what they're testifying to
[12:25] <serfus> because my main activity is within my loco
[12:26] <serfus> where not many are ubuntu members but are active within the loco
[12:26] <head_victim> Hmm the wiki is being really slow for some reason
[12:27] <serfus> the wiki is always slow :P
[12:27] <head_victim> Ok, well as long as they're providing details about specifics that should be ok. Testimonials like "they're a great person" don't really help though. Sorry still waiting on the wiki
[12:28] <head_victim> Ok, where you mention moderating forums, maybe provide a link to your account so we can see your post count
[12:28] <head_victim> Perhaps a link to the mailing list as well so we can get an idea about how much activity there is
[12:29] <serfus> alright, so more specific details?
[12:30] <serfus> i find it hard to show that i'm really the central man of the israeli loco
[12:30] <serfus> arr... it sounds really snobish
[12:30] <head_victim> Yeah, in an ideal world each board member will pore over each application for all the specific details that they can squeeze out of them. In the real world sometimes they might spend not as much time so the more obvious it is the easier it is (if that makes sense)
[12:30] <head_victim> It's not snobish. I'm the loco contact for my loco as well :)
[12:30] <serfus> but i'm doing much more the contacting de facto
[12:31] <serfus> *then
[12:31] <head_victim> Ok, so are you running events? Release parties and the like?
[12:31] <serfus> i did, and another one coming this month :)
[12:32] <head_victim> Ok, well they are great examples. I'd write somethign along the lines of "organised 2 release parties in my loco" and then link to the loco.u.c events that have been created with details of the day
[12:33] <head_victim> From the wiki - Membership of the Ubuntu community means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community.
[12:33] <head_victim> So organising events in your local community is making contributions to the community.
[12:34] <serfus> okay, i think i got your points... many things to do :)
[12:34] <head_victim> You'll probably find you're doing enough, just not producing the details for the board to see.
[12:35] <serfus> including getting the loco approved
[12:35] <serfus> thanks allot head_victim, this chat was helpful
[12:35] <head_victim> If you're running multiple events, translating on launchpad regularly and supporting the loco well they're all really good things :)
[12:35] <head_victim> (that's basically what I do!)
[12:37] <serfus> haha so i have a future here you say
[12:37] <head_victim> Everyone has a future with Ubuntu, that's the best part about it
[12:38] <serfus> :)
[12:38] <head_victim> You're only limited by the time you have spare to contribute.
[12:38] <serfus> which unfortunately is never enough
[12:39] <head_victim> It never feels enough, but you ahve to remember, if you over commit you're going to burn out really quick. Everyone has to decide what level of commitment they make that suits them.
[12:39] <serfus> ya...
[12:40] <serfus> i do have 2 weeks off school and work, so i hope to achieve some of the things i wanted but never got to
[12:40] <head_victim> So I have to head off as it's nearly 11pm here and I have to be up early. But if you're ever wanting to ask questions feel free to ping me on any channel I'm in (I hang around a few) or feel free to ask away in #ubuntu-community where there are heaps of people willing to help
[12:41] <serfus> many many thanks head_victim
[12:41] <serfus> have a good night
[12:41] <head_victim> You to mate, and you're welcome
[15:47] <bil21al> helo last night i run the system test and i finished it..the system asked my launchpad email adress and than it vanished..i want to ask that where is my report gone ???
[15:59] <zul> yo
[16:01] <zul> i think Spamaps is suppose to be running this today
[16:02] <adam_g> \o
[16:02] <jamespage> hi all
[16:02] <hallyn_> jamespage: congrats :)
[16:03] <jamespage> thanks hallyn_!
[16:03] <smoser> o/
[16:03] <shattered> hi
[16:05] <RoAkSoAx> o/
[16:06] <hallyn_> zul: do you mind just taking this week?
[16:06] <zul> hallyn_: sure
[16:06] <hallyn_> thx
[16:06] <zul> Spamaps owes me beers
[16:07] <hallyn_> zul: do you mind adding Ursinha to the list when you update the meeting page?
[16:07] <zul> #startmeeting
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[16:07] <hallyn_> i forgot last week
[16:07] <zul> welcome to the last oneiric before release
[16:07] <zul> hallyn_: ack
[16:07] <zul> she can do it next week ;)
[16:07] <zul> so lets get started
[16:08] <zul> [action] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:08] <Ursinha> I thought I was there already :)
[16:08] <zul> so it says here hggdh and Spamaps to discusss SRU verification work
[16:08] <zul> has this been done?
[16:09] <zul> im assuming no because Spamaps was in boston last week
[16:09] <zul> ok then
[16:09] <hallyn_> hggdh was going to test within the hour last week
[16:09] <hallyn_> hggdh: ^
[16:09] <zul> hggdh well come back
[16:09] <hallyn_> k
[16:10] <zul> jamespage to follow up with jhunt on udev/lvm bugs
[16:10] <jamespage> followed up
[16:10] <zul> cool
[16:10] <jamespage> things appear to have improved with some of the udev changes made since last week
[16:10] <zul> cool beans
[16:10] <jamespage> but I think there is one issue still outstanding
[16:10] <hallyn_> for udev, yes
[16:10] <hallyn_> lvm still has problem
[16:10] <zul> looks like an SRU
[16:10] <hallyn_> y
[16:11] <zul> archive is in lock down unless if it gets fixed pretty soon
[16:11] <smoser> it'd be useful to say which bugs we're talking about
[16:11] <zul> bug 801494
[16:11] <hallyn_> incomplete?
[16:11] <zul> thats the one
[16:11] <zul> according to the agenda
[16:12] <zul> thoughts?
[16:12] <hallyn_> bug 818177
[16:13] <zul> yay i heard people whining about that one :)
[16:13] <zul> also previous meetings:
[16:14] <zul> smoser, utlemming and smb to follow up on Bug 854050
[16:14] <zul> utlemming to figure out qemu image situation (carry-over)
[16:14] <zul> Daviey to talk to ttx and keystone honcho for guidance about oneiric package
[16:14] <zul> is any of that done as well? ^^^
[16:14] <zul> if not ill move on
[16:14] <utlemming> yes, the images are good
[16:15] <zul> cool
[16:15] <zul> #topic Oneiric Development
[16:15] <smoser> what does "images are good" mean?
[16:15] <hggdh> I am back
[16:15] <utlemming> smoser: the arm images boot inside qemu
[16:15] <Daviey> Hey chaps
[16:15] <Daviey> I am here...
[16:15] <utlemming> they were fixed by the updated kerenl
[16:15] <Daviey> we are looking pretty good
[16:15] <smoser> oh. so in regard to bug 854050. why did we just jump past that i wonder.
[16:15] <Daviey> Currently in a real life meeting, makign it hard for me to be here.
[16:15] <smoser> i hvae no status on that. but people have tested smb's kernels and they appear good.
[16:17] <zul> cool...so oneiric is being released this week so we need help ISO testing so Im thinking people should be ISO testing when its available.
[16:17] <zul> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:17] <Daviey> London Release Party this thursday.
[16:17] <zul> last week was the ODS and Conference a bunch of people were there
[16:17] <Daviey> <-- will be there
[16:17] <zul> UDS at the end of the month
[16:18] <zul> i wont be at any release party because Ottawa is lame
[16:18] <zul> any other events?
[16:18] <zul> i think i mentioned the big ones
[16:18] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:18] <zul> hi hggdh
[16:19] <hggdh> hi
[16:19] <zul> any updates?
[16:19] <hggdh> relating to the squid bug -- spamaps was unavailable last week; I tried it, and I do not get a fsck running on restart
[16:19] <hggdh> BUT
[16:19] <hggdh> I still get a /var busy, remounted RO
[16:20] <zul> interesting i might poke it today as well
[16:20] <zul> any else?
[16:20] <hggdh> so I need to checkpoint with Clint, and find out what gives
[16:20] <hggdh> this week, unsurprisingly, is release week
[16:20] <hggdh> we need all help possible to QA all images -- server and otherwise
[16:20] <hggdh> so...
[16:20] <hggdh> please...
[16:20] <hggdh> HELP
[16:21] <zul> cool..
[16:21] <hggdh> a final note
[16:21] <hggdh> jamespage and I are working on getting the EC2 tests passed over to QA
[16:21] <hggdh> ..
[16:21] <jamespage> w00t
[16:21] <zul> sweet
[16:21] <Daviey> hggdh: when will you have the results?
[16:22] <hggdh> Daviey: which results?
[16:22] <Daviey> hggdh: EC2.
[16:23] <hggdh> Daviey: I am sure this will not be completely done solely by me this week, I am still working on understanding all, and we will need some changes on AWS accounts
[16:23] <hggdh> but hopefully, soon
[16:23] <zul> so..
[16:23] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:23] <jamespage> Daviey: hggdh and I will kickoff the ec2 tests when we get the nod on the RC images
[16:23] <zul> hi smb
[16:23] <Daviey> jamespage: rocking..
[16:24] <shattered> I have a Q re: bug 794570
[16:24] <Daviey> smb will not be here for this section
[16:24] <shattered> should be easy to fix
[16:25] <zul> shattered: you will want to talk to smb after the meeting
[16:25] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:25] <zul> Ncommander around?
[16:25] <NCommander> yup
[16:25] <NCommander> (lagging slightly, but I'm here)
[16:25] <zul> any update?
[16:26] <NCommander> ARM server is looking good and solid for release. No major bugs to report (although there is aknown issue with guided partitioning during netboot installs on omap3/4)
[16:26] <smoser> shattered, feel free to ping me in #ubuntu-server, or #ubuntu-kernel and we'll ping smb together if you're interested in some help doing so.
[16:26] <shattered> ok
[16:26] <shattered> I have a bunch of other bugs
[16:26] <zul> NCommander: cool
[16:27] <zul> any questions for NCommander
[16:27] <zul> ok moving on
[16:27] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:28] <shattered> that's me
[16:28] <zul> im just going to combine this with the Open Discussion part as well
[16:28] <zul> hi shattered
[16:28] <shattered> how about bug 517574
[16:28] <zul> shattered: ill take a nother look at it soon
[16:29] <zul> anything else?
[16:29] <shattered> bug 315763
[16:29] <shattered> I'm not sure it's assigned to the right package
[16:30] <zul> shattered: as smoser said take it to #ubuntu-server after the meeting
[16:30] <shattered> okay
[16:30] <zul> so is anyone else going to a release party other than Daviey
[16:30] <smoser> zul, but that was a different bug he was asking about
[16:31] <zul> smoser: still i think it would be more beneficial to discuss it on #ubuntu-server after the meeting
[16:32] <smoser> yeah, the point of this meeting is only to list topics, not to discuss anything...
[16:32] <zul> right
[16:32] <zul> im glad you agree :)
[16:33] <zul> if anyone doesnt have anything else then im going to end the meeting
[16:33] <zul> thanks for coming
[16:33] <zul> #endmeeting
[16:33] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 11 16:33:46 2011 UTC.
[16:33] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-11-16.07.moin.txt
[16:34] <shattered> ok then, I'll ask in a hour or so (afk)