[00:00] hmmm i upgraded to the last one [00:01] can windows get to the share if you enter the user and password? [00:01] that is really realative [00:01] i'm using ubuntu 11.04 [00:01] also, have you run `smbpasswd -a username` for your user? [00:01] with windows i can entering user and pass [00:02] my user is added [00:02] ok [00:05] when i try to enter it shows the message opening "group" [00:05] and the says cannot retrieve the server list [00:14] look. that is not something you should change now. [00:14] period. [00:14] daviey, soren, utlemming. [00:14] that is not a change you put in in 3 days before a release (now 2) [00:15] you need no other information. something that has been broken for 2 years is not something you fix 2 days before release. [00:17] +1 [00:18] Unless it involves data loss or other release-critical symptoms as covered in whatever Ubuntu's equivalent of the Policy document is [00:19] smoser: I say that without knowing the specific thing you're discussing, of course :-) [00:19] cron'd apt-get updates [00:20] I've had mixed results, sometimes it works, sometimes not, but then I normally don't use them and do it myself as I watch updates myself [00:21] I've turned them on in a few places and been unimpressed [00:21] I turned them on for my friends vm's, and they seem to work good, installed from lucid 10.04.2 [00:22] atleast when I login, it always says, reboot pending, updates installed :) [00:22] or is that different? :) [00:22] patdk-lap: that could be after a human did the upgrade [00:24] twb, except last login was me, and I didn't [00:25] last login is a measure of when login began, not ended [00:25] I could've logged in a year ago, left my shell open, done a kernel upgrade, not rebooted... [00:25] then who would of shown it [00:25] I guess [00:25] they don't login, anyways [00:26] they could [00:26] but normally they just access via ftp/scp/http === Amgine is now known as Amgine_ === Amgine_ is now known as Amgine === Martyn^ is now known as Martyn [06:22] hi there sopmbody know whoi I can join a windows server 2008 to samba PDC? [07:29] smoser: Absolutely agree. I wasn't suggesting that at all. [07:34] morning all [07:43] Hello. How do I configure ntp so it is possible to query it work the time? Want to act as a time server for my network [07:45] blinkiz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=862620 - just a few seconds to search [07:46] w00, thanks === memoryleak is now known as \n === \n is now known as memoryleak [08:39] patdk-wk / twb: you are confusing updates with upgrades :) [08:56] hi all [09:35] -0 */1 * * * command , what is this means in crontab [09:38] sig09, i guess every full hour, what that -0 means no idea, should be just 0, no? [09:41] <_ruben> */1 is rather bogus, as it means the same as * [09:51] yes _ruben , that doesn't make sense [09:51] morning o/ [09:51] Daviey: ping [09:51] lynxman: hey [09:51] 5/1 = 5 , :) [09:51] koolhead17: hello thar :) [09:51] sig09: :D [09:52] but my doubt is that , what is the "-0" in the minute field ? [09:52] Daviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/705939/ this is what vishy told me last night [09:52] we can give 0-5 , that means 0,1,2,3,4 and 5, right ? [09:53] <_ruben> perhaps it means something to other (non-default) cron implementations [09:56] jamespage: shame you're not at the sprint :) [09:56] lynxman, ho-hum [09:56] having fun? [09:56] jamespage: looks like from here [10:00] lynxman: whats cooking today :D [10:06] koolhead17: don't know :) [10:07] lynxman: you will laugh if i tell you :D [10:08] koolhead17: surprise me :D [10:09] lynxman: last night i told you i will run last command to check the dashboard stuff. [10:09] nova-manage user modify atulfinal "" "" True [10:10] once i set this [10:10] then only i am able to do all admin based work for any user via dashboard!! :D [10:10] lynxman: :D [10:11] koolhead17: hmm weird [10:12] sudo nova-manage role add atulfinal sysadmin [10:12] sudo nova-manage role add atulfinal sysadmin myproject [10:13] i provided this two last night and tried to play via dashbaord i failed [10:13] :D [10:13] nova-manage user modify atulfinal "" "" True [10:13] it worked [10:13] :D [10:13] *shrug* [10:14] lynxman: am going to keystone land today [10:14] :P [10:14] koolhead17: best of lucks :) [10:14] lynxman: :D [10:36] New bug: #872210 in ntp (main) "/etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate: Fails to stop openntp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872210 [11:06] New bug: #872217 in munin "diskstats plugin: error "Byte order is not compatible"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872217 [11:31] I had ubuntu server 10.04 LTS box and now I upgraded it into non LTS 11.04 which is not what I wanted. Can I upgrade/change it into LTS 11.04 somehow? [11:32] Honksu: no [11:32] fuck [11:32] Honksu: you upgraded it but it's not what you wanted? how did that happen? [11:33] and if I turn update-manager switch to lts it's never going to find new releases because I have to be on LTS so I screwed it bad... :( [11:33] Honksu: control your language here please [11:34] Honksu: is the upgraded server running well? [11:35] yes [11:35] Honksu: so not too bad then right? [11:35] <_ruben> Honksu: either reinstall with 10.04, or wait for 12.04 to be released which will be the next LTS [11:36] _ruben: he'll need to upgrade to 11.10 first though [11:36] I hjsut have to go with _ruben's second advice and just wait for 12.04 and go through 11.10 [11:36] <_ruben> pmatulis: which isn't too different from having to have had to upgrade to 11.04 to 10.10 ;-) [11:38] but if I go this way 10.04 LTS -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 LTS will the 12.04 really be LTS? [11:39] <_ruben> no matter how you get there, 12.04 = 12.04 = LTS [11:39] great [11:39] thanks mate [11:48] How can I find files which were crated less then 3 hours ago? [11:49] memoryleak: with the find command [11:49] lynxman: :P [11:49] pmatulis: I couldn't find something related to creation time [11:49] <_ruben> and the ctime option [11:49] <_ruben> -ctime even [11:50] <_ruben> err wait [11:50] That's last changed time [11:50] I don't think linux has a created time. [11:50] modification time would do also [11:51] then you can use -ctime [11:51] <_ruben> or mtime [11:52] yeah, ctime seems to be days. [11:52] <_ruben> status vs contents [11:52] mtime would be more useful. [11:52] it might need some intenses man page reading :P [11:53] If he wants hours cmin would be more useful :) [11:53] s/cmin/mmin [11:53] Nonetheless, read the fine man :) [11:53] <_ruben> +1 ;) [11:54] hope he is not scared now :P [11:54] <_ruben> was looking for the option to pass your search params on the man commandline, but can't seem to recall it [11:55] _ruben: /something works [11:55] touch /var/www/test & find /var/www/ -cmin 2 doesn't work [11:55] find doesn't list test [11:56] -2 [11:56] <_ruben> nigelb: i meant "man foo /bar" .. open manpage for foo and search for bar [11:56] _ruben: ah! [11:56] <_ruben> less should support +/something as param, but can't get to work either .. oh well [11:56] I'm doing a "man man" and it feels meta :) [11:57] ah got it :) [11:58] zul: congrats. mysql/pgsql auth working for diablo on newer/latest oneiric image :D [12:00] * koolhead17 can be happy 4 something finally :D [12:03] koolhead17: thanks but i had nothing to do with that [12:04] zul: i thought you were working on nova packaging :D [12:04] oh....maybe im not awake yet [12:04] zul: trouble you later!! :D [12:19] has anyone tried native zfs on linux? [12:20] d1b, yep, wasn't impressed (yet) [12:20] patdk-wk: why not? [12:20] it works [12:20] but not really usable [12:20] because? [12:20] of what they say on their website [12:20] it works, but hasn't been tuned [12:21] http://zfsonlinux.org/ --> this one ? [12:21] right ok [12:22] patdk-wk: what would you recommend for something like zfs on linux then ? btrfs is also "not stable" / optimised iirc [12:22] i'm hatin' on mdadm right now [12:26] hmm, there is nothing? [12:27] that's totally not a good answer [12:27] don't ask for the impossible then [12:27] it isn't impossible [12:27] :) [12:27] ok, then write/fix it then, it's open source [12:27] Well, how long is a string? [12:27] well how bad was the performance on native linux zfs? [12:27] And why is it that length? [12:36] Daviey, am i wrong about bug 870121 ? [12:36] Launchpad bug 870121 in ubuntu "APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists not set in cloud images" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/870121 [12:36] is it a regression? [12:37] smoser: looked into it, it was introduced in Maverick. [12:38] smoser: bug 588340 introduced the regression. [12:38] Launchpad bug 588340 in byobu "reduce byobu recommends" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588340 [12:39] hi [12:39] well thats somewhat bogus anyway [12:39] is bug #872210 something people would like to see fixed in oneiric-proposed? [12:39] Launchpad bug 872210 in ntp "/etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate: Fails to stop openntp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872210 [12:39] the fact that we were getting that "essential" package via what should basically be a leaf package. [12:44] smoser: aye, it isn't bogus because we had that behaviour and it was masking something that should be base. [12:45] right. so the fix is to add update-notifier-common to some common (perhaps 'server') task at the beginning of 'P' [12:46] Yeah.. we have a window to add it right now to Oneiric. [12:46] The impact seems to be minimal. [12:46] after right now, we are too late. [12:46] The fact it hasn't been noticed for two releases makes me think it's not urgent. [12:46] I think fixing it for LTS release is more importiant. [12:47] morning [12:47] afternoon zul [12:49] hi zul [12:52] :( [12:59] zul: heya o/ [13:14] New bug: #872261 in autofs5 (main) ""service autofs " fails with "Rejected send message"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872261 [13:34] RoAkSoAx, https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/lp850880-850866/+merge/78904 [13:34] adam_g, did some good work there. [13:35] what would you tihnk about adding '--replace' option to 'cobbler import' and trying to put that upstream. [13:36] it would make it easier in the long run [13:40] indeed [13:46] smoser: is that merged or you still waiting to get it fixed? [13:46] well, its SRU at best right now, so there isn't a complete rush [13:47] ok [13:47] but clearly we'd want it, and we could SRU it [13:51] smoser: so that db change for nova, i had a look and it looks ok to me but it exposes a nother bug, did you see if that got fixed as well? [13:53] bug numbers? [13:53] http://pad.lv/838581 is not a db change [13:54] not a schema change (bug 838581) [13:54] Launchpad bug 838581 in nova "Failures in db_pool code: 'NoneType' object has no attribute '_keymap' or not returning rows." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838581 [13:55] zul, ^ [13:56] right but it exposes more bugs [13:56] anyone feel like talking about orchestra for ubuntu open week? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek [13:57] smoser: doh...forget it, thats ok for me [13:57] jcastro: i thought Spamaps was interested in doing it [13:57] zul, i'm missing something. please exlain. [13:57] he's doing juju [13:57] smoser: you arent...i just need more caffine [13:57] i think we talked about orchestra last time. [13:57] just replay the script [13:58] right [14:02] jcastro, really, i don tthink we've made too many improvements in orchestra since then but kirkland or lynxman might think otherwise. [14:03] smoser: not really, it's in my agenda to add nagios support to orchestra but it's not there yet [14:03] smoser: yeah also, it's a new crowd each time [14:03] so repeats are most welcome [14:04] SpamapS: hey what time slot do you want for openweek? [14:22] b/win 21 [14:27] smoser: jcastro: depends on when "the last time" was [14:41] hallyn_, around ? [14:43] kirkland: so we could do a general "server" one, or an orchestra one [14:43] I would lean towards orchestra because it's newish [14:43] jcastro: I'll gladly do an Orchestra one [14:43] jcastro: when's the date? [14:43] alright, snag a slot!! [14:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek [14:43] week after release (next week) [14:46] jcastro: : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Timetable#preview [14:46] hah, nice title [14:46] smoser: yes, what's up? [14:48] my laptop is currently showing the lxc isue regarding /dev/ptx/0 [14:48] err... /ev/pts/0 [14:48] gah. /dev/pts/0 [14:50] this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/863629 [14:50] Launchpad bug 863629 in libvirt "libvirt-lxc: virFileOpenTtyAt can't be called on /some/other/dev/pts" [High,Confirmed] [14:51] smoser: so can you see anything indicating why lxc_driver is not holding /dev/pts/0 open? [14:53] smoser: do you know who we have who's active with glibc development? [14:54] slangasek or doku would be knowledgable i'm sure. [14:54] but they know everything [14:54] just lookig for someone with some creds who can get them to consider this a bug [14:54] hallyn_, so you think that to "fix" this, i can do one of 2 things: [14:54] a.) apply your libvirt patch [14:55] b.) get a /dev/pts/0 created (which i'm currently unable to do) [14:55] oh, now, wait. [14:55] i mean yes, a. should work [14:55] but if b. doesn't work, that's interesting [14:55] i'm unable to get a /dev/pts/0 created. [14:55] so that means something is holding /dev/pts/0 pinned somehow so it can't get re-used [14:55] ie, just opening up a new terminal doesnt do it. [14:55] that is something which i have not been able to reproduce [14:55] this is amd64? [14:56] yes. [15:00] can you pb the output of lsof? === [AFK] is now known as AFK [15:06] hallyn_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/706158/ [15:06] thats the interesting part [15:06] and i know how i did it [15:07] after i log in i start a bip proxy with: [15:07] ssh -o ControlPath=none -C -L 7778:localhost:7778 -f -N ${HOST} === hazmat` is now known as hazmat [15:09] * hallyn_ shakes his head [15:09] you couldn't mention that before? :) [15:09] but, [15:09] how did you do it on the cloud instance then? [15:09] surely you weren't running bip there [15:09] i never knew what was doing it before. [15:09] smoser: ok, let's move over to -devel to ping doku and slangasek? [15:09] on cloud instances i can do it by logging in, starting screen, logging out...i think. [15:09] smoser: does my patch, then, not fix it on your laptop? [15:10] i can test the patch. [15:10] cool === oCean_ is now known as oCean [15:55] hi [16:10] hello there [16:11] anyone there ? [16:14] hello [16:14] hi sloop_ [16:14] hi guys, we're in a meeting at the moment, but ask your questions and I'm sure someone will answer if available :) [16:14] i got HP server DL380 G7 server with 8 which is in production, i made a mistake between raid creation [16:15] someone know how i find the total time in a linux system, not only the since the last boot, like uptime [16:15] sloop_, you mean when it was installed? [16:15] since the first boot [16:15] i done raid 10 in 4 instead of 8 disks [16:15] Ursinha: yes [16:16] is it possible to change the raid without restarting the server ? [16:16] if you dont use the partition, yes [16:18] is it possible? [16:18] i got hpaccucli [16:18] how to do it ? [16:18] which partition ? [16:18] umount the partition first [16:19] not, before this, backup your data [16:19] and umount the partition [16:20] there is no way to umount partition [16:20] and play with mdadm /dev/md0 --grow --level=5 [16:20] or other level [16:20] there are virtual machine allready running [16:20] why you can't umount the partition? [16:21] umount which partitioN ? [16:21] the md device [16:21] and it is not raid soft [16:21] what is? [16:21] !raid hard manage by hpacculi [16:21] iuytfr: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:22] hpacculi is a fake raid, it's better that you use mdadm linux raid [16:22] in this case, you only can do it restarting the server, and, in boot time, edit the raid options [16:24] continue with my case, anybody know how to view the total uptime in a linux system? [16:24] sloop_, trying to figure out :) [16:25] Ursinha: thanks! [16:31] There is a „tuptime” utility (http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuptime/), but it uses cron and init to collect uptime statistics, so it will not allow to calculate uptime before installation. [16:32] just-a-visitor: looks great, if i install it in a new system, i exactly find that i was looking for [16:32] do you use it? [16:34] No, I have googled for the possible answer. Looks actively developed though. [16:34] ok, great [16:35] I tried it now i my system and later, problably, in my server-farm [16:35] sloop_: so it seems that that is not possible [16:35] or I lost my google foo (which is possible) [16:36] Ursinha: not possible for a working system, but I think that is acceptable the installation of tuptime for a new system [16:36] looks a very small script [16:36] not? [16:37] I haven't heard of tuptime, to be honest [16:37] It would probably just keep adding the /proc/uptime numbers to a total kept in a separate file surviving reboots [16:38] I haven't heard anything yet, but every day know anything new [16:38] that's clever [16:38] :) [16:39] I'm kinda switching computers so I haven't seen just-a-visitor's suggestion :) [16:39] doh [16:40] I install the deb package, and before libtime-duration-perl, works well [16:40] it's nice, thanks just-a-visitor! [16:40] It was http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuptime/, a perl script. And yes, it seem to be doing like: open(FILE6, "< /proc/stat"). [16:41] yes, thanks :) [16:41] thanks for that just-a-visitor [16:41] the author had the same problem before me :) [16:41] :) [16:43] oh, it prints the statistics in the shutdown script [16:43] nice [16:49] * RoyK just got new hardware for his home server and just found out it only had DVI out... booted it up and no console, but configured as earlier - straight up and available... [16:49] * RoyK likes linux [16:53] :) [16:53] royk, my sat2-mv's are doing about 700MB/sec each [16:54] but they only have 6 drives on each at the moment [16:59] patdk-wk: my sat2-mv did rather badly, but not because it's a bad card, only because it was in a slooooow PCI bus (with the old mobo) [17:00] with this el cheapo mobo, I do 120MB/s per drive, which should be limited on the drive side [17:14] hggdh: utlemming just gave me the nod to test 20111011 ec2 images - want to kickup of the adhoc test prior to the big one? [17:14] jamespage: doing it :-) [17:15] w00t [17:18] jamespage: brb, gotta reboot after changes in compiz === med_out is now known as medberry [17:48] smoser, ayt? [17:49] here [17:49] shattered, [17:49] ok then [17:49] here's a list of most annoying bugs [17:50] bug 517574 [17:50] Launchpad bug 517574 in net-snmp "Please backport agent/mibgroup/host/hr_swrun.c to 5.4.1" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/517574 [17:50] bug 794570 [17:50] Launchpad bug 794570 in linux "igbvf driver is missing from virtual-flavored kernel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/794570 [17:51] bug 250549 [17:51] Launchpad bug 250549 in linux "Wrong interface speed from snmpd running as snmp user" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250549 [17:53] shattered, ok. none of these are going to get into oneiric, which ships 2 days from now. [17:53] (just to set the expectation) [17:53] sure. [17:53] I'm most interested in getting them into LTS [17:54] are you a developer shattered ? are you interested in going through the merge proposal process? [17:54] not an Ubuntu developer [17:54] not "Ubuntu developer", but in the general sense. [17:54] ie, would would you be interested in going through that process. [17:54] if so, then 517574 woudl seem like a very good place to start. [17:55] aha [17:55] and i can help walk you through. [17:55] let's try that. [17:56] ok. so for the -virutal kernel missing a driver, we your pain will be much alleviated in oneiric. [17:56] there is now a 'linux-image-extra-3.0.0-12-virtual' package [17:57] the intent of that package is tonctian the modules that are not in the -virtual kernel. [17:58] ok, but igbvf is only useful in a VM [17:58] and ixgbevf too [17:59] yeah, so clearly those should be in -virtual [17:59] its just an oversite. [17:59] i want to have the same bob:bob 112:123 user and group on two machines, but when i created bob:bob on another machine i got the id's 112:115 can i just force the new machine's id? or will that break current permissions on the new machine? [18:00] i'm trying to move a HD between them, and be able to access the files from the bob:bob account on both machines [18:00] shattered, /join #ubuntu-kernel [18:01] for that, i've pinged ogasawara in #ubuntu-kernel. [18:01] then that leaves us with [18:02] a lot more bugs :) [18:06] shattered, have you tried 250549 on oneiric ? or on natty ? [18:06] per http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-net-snmp-devel/2011-January/001037.html , it should be fixed in 2.6.36 [18:06] no [18:06] I only have Lucid and Karmic [18:06] ok. well, it'd be good to test that, and if it is fixed, then mark it as such. [18:06] this would easily be reproducible in a vm ? [18:07] i can launch you an oneiric instance on EC2 that you can poke at if you'd like [18:07] not sure [18:08] you want to test ? [18:08] a test case is to run snmpwalk -v 2c -c ... ... ifSpeed [18:09] shattered, do you have a launchpad account? [18:09] yes, ~svs [18:10] aha, 2.6.38 is indeed fixed [18:11] let's take it to #u-k then? [18:13] if you've tested 2.6.38 as fixed fro that but, then mark it fix-released and give the ubuntu kernel package version. that would be great. [18:13] I've tested with a backport of 2.6.38 to Lucid [18:27] hey guys, is mrtg still the recommended way to graph cpu/mem/traf usage or is there something better? [18:27] shattered, ok. then please update hte bug with that information, and if it was an actual kernel from ubuntu, mark it fix-released. [18:27] then, we're down to the net-snmp bug. i can help you walk thorugh how you'd propose it for merging. [18:28] okay, I'll do that, but there are more bugs :) [18:28] bug 315763 [18:28] Launchpad bug 315763 in initramfs-tools "netboot: aic94xx sequencer firmware is missing from initrd.gz" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315763 [18:29] well, yes. there is a never ending supply of those. [18:29] this one was fairly annoying [18:29] but once I figured the workaround, I could live with it [18:32] shattered, well, definitely the first thing to do there is to see if oneiric is affected. [18:33] once it's released? [18:33] well, it is basically released. [18:33] you can grab an iso and try it out. [18:33] that's the thing, I normally use netboot [18:33] all my servers are remote [18:34] well, a netboot iso. [18:34] okay, will try to get new info [18:35] next ones are doc bugs [18:35] bug 772214 [18:35] Launchpad bug 772214 in logrotate "default state file location is wrong in manpage " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772214 [18:35] bug 726600 [18:35] Launchpad bug 726600 in syslog-ng "-e/--stderr option is not documented" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726600 [18:35] bug 597841 [18:35] Launchpad bug 597841 in vmbuilder "vmbuilder ignores many settings in ~/.vmbuilder.cfg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597841 [18:40]