[00:00] <z3r0c0d3> hmmm i upgraded to the last one
[00:01] <qman__> can windows get to the share if you enter the user and password?
[00:01] <patdk-lap> that is really realative
[00:01] <z3r0c0d3> i'm using ubuntu 11.04
[00:01] <qman__> also, have you run `smbpasswd -a username` for your user?
[00:01] <z3r0c0d3> with windows i can entering user and pass
[00:02] <z3r0c0d3> my user is added
[00:02] <qman__> ok
[00:05] <z3r0c0d3> when i try to enter it shows the message opening "group"
[00:05] <z3r0c0d3> and the says cannot retrieve the server list
[00:14] <smoser> look. that is not something you should change now.
[00:14] <smoser> period.
[00:14] <smoser> daviey, soren, utlemming.
[00:14] <smoser> that is not a change you put in in 3 days before a release (now 2)
[00:15] <smoser> you need no other information. something that has been broken for 2 years is not something you fix 2 days before release.
[00:17] <twb`> +1
[00:18] <twb`> Unless it involves data loss or other release-critical symptoms as covered in whatever Ubuntu's equivalent of the Policy document is
[00:19] <twb`> smoser: I say that without knowing the specific thing you're discussing, of course :-)
[00:19] <patdk-lap> cron'd apt-get updates
[00:20] <patdk-lap> I've had mixed results, sometimes it works, sometimes not, but then I normally don't use them and do it myself as I watch updates myself
[00:21] <twb`> I've turned them on in a few places and been unimpressed
[00:21] <patdk-lap> I turned them on for my friends vm's, and they seem to work good, installed from lucid 10.04.2
[00:22] <patdk-lap> atleast when I login, it always says, reboot pending, updates installed :)
[00:22] <patdk-lap> or is that different? :)
[00:22] <twb`> patdk-lap: that could be after a human did the upgrade
[00:24] <patdk-lap> twb, except last login was me, and I didn't
[00:25] <twb`> last login is a measure of when login began, not ended
[00:25] <twb`> I could've logged in a year ago, left my shell open, done a kernel upgrade, not rebooted...
[00:25] <patdk-lap> then who would of shown it
[00:25] <twb`> I guess
[00:25] <patdk-lap> they don't login, anyways
[00:26] <patdk-lap> they could
[00:26] <patdk-lap> but normally they just access via ftp/scp/http
[06:22] <RoxyHart0> hi there sopmbody know whoi I can join a windows server 2008 to samba PDC?
[07:29] <soren> smoser: Absolutely agree. I wasn't suggesting that at all.
[07:34] <jamespage> morning all
[07:43] <blinkiz> Hello. How do I configure ntp so it is possible to query it work the time? Want to act as a time server for my network
[07:45] <w00> blinkiz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=862620 - just a few seconds to search
[07:46] <blinkiz> w00, thanks
[08:39] <Daviey> patdk-wk / twb: you are confusing updates with upgrades :)
[08:56] <koolhead17> hi all
[09:35] <sig09> -0 */1 * * *  command , what is this means in crontab
[09:38] <dc5ala> sig09, i guess every full hour, what that -0 means no idea, should be just 0, no?
[09:41] <_ruben> */1 is rather bogus, as it means the same as *
[09:51] <sig09> yes  _ruben , that doesn't make sense
[09:51] <lynxman> morning o/
[09:51] <koolhead17> Daviey: ping
[09:51] <koolhead17> lynxman: hey
[09:51] <sig09>  5/1 = 5 , :)
[09:51] <lynxman> koolhead17: hello thar :)
[09:51] <koolhead17> sig09: :D
[09:52] <sig09> but my doubt is that , what is the "-0" in the minute field ?
[09:52] <koolhead17> Daviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/705939/  this is what vishy told me last night
[09:52] <sig09> we can give 0-5 , that means 0,1,2,3,4 and 5, right ?
[09:53] <_ruben> perhaps it means something to other (non-default) cron implementations
[09:56] <lynxman> jamespage: shame you're not at the sprint :)
[09:56] <jamespage> lynxman, ho-hum
[09:56] <jamespage> having fun?
[09:56] <lynxman> jamespage: looks like from here
[10:00] <koolhead17> lynxman: whats cooking today :D
[10:06] <lynxman> koolhead17: don't know :)
[10:07] <koolhead17> lynxman: you will laugh if i tell you :D
[10:08] <lynxman> koolhead17: surprise me :D
[10:09] <koolhead17> lynxman: last night i told you i will run last command to check the dashboard stuff.
[10:09] <koolhead17> nova-manage user  modify atulfinal  "" "" True
[10:10] <koolhead17> once i set this
[10:10] <koolhead17> then only i am able to do all admin based work for any user via dashboard!! :D
[10:10] <koolhead17> lynxman: :D
[10:11] <lynxman> koolhead17: hmm weird
[10:12] <koolhead17> sudo nova-manage role add atulfinal sysadmin
[10:12] <koolhead17> sudo nova-manage role add atulfinal sysadmin myproject
[10:13] <koolhead17> i provided this two last night and tried to play via dashbaord i failed
[10:13] <koolhead17> :D
[10:13] <koolhead17> nova-manage user  modify atulfinal  "" "" True
[10:13] <koolhead17> it worked
[10:13] <koolhead17> :D
[10:13] <lynxman> *shrug*
[10:14] <koolhead17> lynxman: am going to keystone land today
[10:14] <koolhead17> :P
[10:14] <lynxman> koolhead17: best of lucks :)
[10:14] <koolhead17> lynxman: :D
[11:31] <Honksu> I had ubuntu server 10.04 LTS box and now I upgraded it into non LTS 11.04 which is not what I wanted. Can I upgrade/change it into LTS 11.04 somehow?
[11:32] <pmatulis> Honksu: no
[11:32] <Honksu> fuck
[11:32] <pmatulis> Honksu: you upgraded it but it's not what you wanted?  how did that happen?
[11:33] <Honksu> and if I turn update-manager switch to lts it's never going to find new releases because I have to be on LTS so I screwed it bad... :(
[11:33] <oCean> Honksu: control your language here please
[11:34] <pmatulis> Honksu: is the upgraded server running well?
[11:35] <Honksu> yes
[11:35] <pmatulis> Honksu: so not too bad then right?
[11:35] <_ruben> Honksu: either reinstall with 10.04, or wait for 12.04 to be released which will be the next LTS
[11:36] <pmatulis> _ruben: he'll need to upgrade to 11.10 first though
[11:36] <Honksu> I hjsut have to go with _ruben's second advice and just wait for 12.04 and go through 11.10
[11:36] <_ruben> pmatulis: which isn't too different from having to have had to upgrade to 11.04 to 10.10 ;-)
[11:38] <Honksu> but if I go this way 10.04 LTS -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 LTS will the 12.04 really be LTS?
[11:39] <_ruben> no matter how you get there, 12.04 = 12.04 = LTS
[11:39] <Honksu> great
[11:39] <Honksu> thanks mate
[11:48] <memoryleak> How can I find files which were crated less then 3 hours ago?
[11:49] <pmatulis> memoryleak: with the find command
[11:49] <koolhead17> lynxman: :P
[11:49] <memoryleak> pmatulis: I couldn't find something related to creation time
[11:49] <_ruben> and the ctime option
[11:49] <_ruben> -ctime even
[11:50] <_ruben> err wait
[11:50] <w00> That's last changed time
[11:50] <nigelb> I don't think linux has a created time.
[11:50] <memoryleak> modification time would do also
[11:51] <nigelb> then you can use -ctime
[11:51] <_ruben> or mtime
[11:52] <nigelb> yeah, ctime seems to be days.
[11:52] <_ruben> status vs contents
[11:52] <nigelb> mtime would be more useful.
[11:52] <nigelb> it might need some intenses man page reading :P
[11:53] <w00> If he wants hours cmin would be more useful :)
[11:53] <w00> s/cmin/mmin
[11:53] <w00> Nonetheless, read the fine man :)
[11:53] <_ruben> +1 ;)
[11:54] <koolhead17> hope he is not scared now :P
[11:54] <_ruben> was looking for the option to pass your search params on the man commandline, but can't seem to recall it
[11:55] <nigelb> _ruben: /something works
[11:55] <memoryleak> touch /var/www/test & find /var/www/ -cmin 2               doesn't work
[11:55] <memoryleak> find doesn't list test
[11:56] <w00> -2
[11:56] <_ruben> nigelb: i meant "man foo <smth>/bar" .. open manpage for foo and search for bar
[11:56] <nigelb> _ruben: ah!
[11:56] <_ruben> less should support +/something as param, but can't get to work either .. oh well
[11:56] <nigelb> I'm doing a "man man" and it feels meta :)
[11:57] <memoryleak> ah got it :)
[11:58] <koolhead17> zul: congrats. mysql/pgsql auth working for diablo on newer/latest oneiric image :D
[12:00]  * koolhead17 can be happy 4 something finally :D
[12:03] <zul> koolhead17: thanks but i had nothing to do with that
[12:04] <koolhead17> zul: i thought you were working on nova packaging :D
[12:04] <zul> oh....maybe im not awake yet
[12:04] <koolhead17> zul: trouble you later!! :D
[12:19] <d1b> has anyone tried native zfs on linux?
[12:20] <patdk-wk> d1b, yep, wasn't impressed (yet)
[12:20] <d1b> patdk-wk: why not?
[12:20] <patdk-wk> it works
[12:20] <patdk-wk> but not really usable
[12:20] <d1b> because?
[12:20] <patdk-wk> of what they say on their website
[12:20] <patdk-wk> it works, but hasn't been tuned
[12:21] <d1b> http://zfsonlinux.org/ --> this one ?
[12:21] <d1b> right ok
[12:22] <d1b> patdk-wk: what would you recommend for something like zfs on linux then ? btrfs is also "not stable" / optimised iirc
[12:22] <d1b> i'm hatin' on mdadm right now
[12:26] <patdk-wk> hmm, there is nothing?
[12:27] <d1b> that's totally not a good answer
[12:27] <patdk-wk> don't ask for the impossible then
[12:27] <d1b> it isn't impossible
[12:27] <d1b> :)
[12:27] <patdk-wk> ok, then write/fix it then, it's open source
[12:27] <ersi> Well, how long is a string?
[12:27] <d1b> well how bad was the performance on native linux zfs?
[12:27] <ersi> And why is it that length?
[12:36] <smoser> Daviey, am i wrong about bug 870121 ?
[12:36] <smoser> is it a regression?
[12:37] <Daviey> smoser: looked into it, it was introduced in Maverick.
[12:38] <Daviey> smoser: bug 588340 introduced the regression.
[12:39] <siretart> hi
[12:39] <smoser> well thats somewhat bogus anyway
[12:39] <siretart> is bug #872210 something people would like to see fixed in oneiric-proposed?
[12:39] <smoser> the fact that we were getting that "essential" package via what should basically be a leaf package.
[12:44] <Daviey> smoser: aye, it isn't bogus because we had that behaviour and it was masking something that should be base.
[12:45] <smoser> right. so the fix is to add update-notifier-common to some common (perhaps 'server') task at the beginning of 'P'
[12:46] <Daviey> Yeah.. we have a window to add it right now to Oneiric.
[12:46] <Daviey> The impact seems to be minimal.
[12:46] <Daviey> after right now, we are too late.
[12:46] <Daviey> The fact it hasn't been noticed for two releases makes me think it's not urgent.
[12:46] <Daviey> I think fixing it for LTS release is more importiant.
[12:47] <zul> morning
[12:47] <Daviey> afternoon zul
[12:49] <jamespage> hi zul
[12:52] <koolhead17> :(
[12:59] <lynxman> zul: heya o/
[13:34] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/lp850880-850866/+merge/78904
[13:34] <smoser> adam_g, did some good work there.
[13:35] <smoser> what would you tihnk about adding '--replace' option to 'cobbler import' and trying to put that upstream.
[13:36] <zul> it would make it easier in the long run
[13:40] <RoAkSoAx> indeed
[13:46] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: is that merged or you still waiting to get it fixed?
[13:46] <smoser> well, its SRU at best right now, so there isn't a complete rush
[13:47] <RoAkSoAx> ok
[13:47] <smoser> but clearly we'd want it, and we could SRU it
[13:51] <zul> smoser: so that db change for nova, i had a look and it looks ok to me but it exposes a nother bug, did you see if that got fixed as well?
[13:53] <smoser> bug numbers?
[13:53] <smoser> http://pad.lv/838581 is not a db change
[13:54] <smoser> not a schema change (bug 838581)
[13:55] <smoser> zul, ^
[13:56] <zul> right but it exposes more bugs
[13:56] <jcastro> anyone feel like talking about orchestra for ubuntu open week? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[13:57] <zul> smoser: doh...forget it, thats ok for me
[13:57] <zul> jcastro: i thought Spamaps was interested in doing it
[13:57] <smoser> zul, i'm missing something. please exlain.
[13:57] <jcastro> he's doing juju
[13:57] <zul> smoser: you arent...i just need more caffine
[13:57] <smoser> i think we talked about orchestra last time.
[13:57] <smoser> just replay the script
[13:58] <jcastro> right
[14:02] <smoser> jcastro, really, i don tthink we've made too many improvements in orchestra since then but kirkland or lynxman might think otherwise.
[14:03] <lynxman> smoser: not really, it's in my agenda to add nagios support to orchestra but it's not there yet
[14:03] <jcastro> smoser: yeah also, it's a new crowd each time
[14:03] <jcastro> so repeats are most welcome
[14:04] <jcastro> SpamapS: hey what time slot do you want for openweek?
[14:22] <RoAkSoAx> b/win 21
[14:27] <kirkland> smoser: jcastro: depends on when "the last time" was
[14:41] <smoser> hallyn_, around ?
[14:43] <jcastro> kirkland: so we could do a general "server" one, or an orchestra one
[14:43] <jcastro> I would lean towards orchestra because it's newish
[14:43] <kirkland> jcastro: I'll gladly do an Orchestra one
[14:43] <kirkland> jcastro: when's the date?
[14:43] <jcastro> alright, snag a slot!!
[14:43] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[14:43] <jcastro> week after release (next week)
[14:46] <kirkland> jcastro: : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Timetable#preview
[14:46] <jcastro> hah, nice title
[14:46] <hallyn_> smoser: yes, what's up?
[14:48] <smoser> my laptop is currently showing the lxc isue regarding /dev/ptx/0
[14:48] <smoser> err... /ev/pts/0
[14:48] <smoser> gah. /dev/pts/0
[14:50] <smoser> this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/863629
[14:51] <hallyn_> smoser: so can you see anything indicating why lxc_driver is not holding /dev/pts/0 open?
[14:53] <hallyn_> smoser: do you know who we have who's active with glibc development?
[14:54] <smoser> slangasek or doku would be knowledgable i'm sure.
[14:54] <smoser> but they know everything
[14:54] <hallyn_> just lookig for someone with some creds who can get them to consider this a bug
[14:54] <smoser> hallyn_, so you think that to "fix" this, i can do one of 2 things:
[14:54] <smoser> a.) apply your libvirt patch
[14:55] <smoser> b.) get a /dev/pts/0 created (which i'm currently unable to do)
[14:55] <hallyn_> oh, now, wait.
[14:55] <hallyn_> i mean yes, a. should work
[14:55] <hallyn_> but if b. doesn't work, that's interesting
[14:55] <smoser> i'm unable to get a /dev/pts/0 created.
[14:55] <hallyn_> so that means something is holding /dev/pts/0 pinned somehow so it can't get re-used
[14:55] <smoser> ie, just opening up a new terminal doesnt do it.
[14:55] <hallyn_> that is something which i have not been able to reproduce
[14:55] <hallyn_> this is amd64?
[14:56] <smoser> yes.
[15:00] <hallyn_> can you pb the output of lsof?
[15:06] <smoser> hallyn_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/706158/
[15:06] <smoser> thats the interesting part
[15:06] <smoser> and i know how i did it
[15:07] <smoser> after i log in i start a bip proxy with:
[15:07] <smoser>  ssh -o ControlPath=none -C -L 7778:localhost:7778 -f -N ${HOST}
[15:09]  * hallyn_ shakes his head
[15:09] <hallyn_> you couldn't mention that before?  :)
[15:09] <hallyn_> but,
[15:09] <hallyn_> how did you do it on the cloud instance then?
[15:09] <hallyn_> surely you weren't running bip there
[15:09] <smoser> i never knew what was doing it before.
[15:09] <hallyn_> smoser: ok, let's move over to -devel to ping doku and slangasek?
[15:09] <smoser> on cloud instances i can do it by logging in, starting screen, logging out...i think.
[15:09] <hallyn_> smoser: does my patch, then, not fix it on your laptop?
[15:10] <smoser> i can test the patch.
[15:10] <hallyn_> cool
[15:55] <allowoverride> hi
[16:10] <iuytfr> hello there
[16:11] <iuytfr> anyone there ?
[16:14] <sloop_> hello
[16:14] <iuytfr> hi sloop_
[16:14] <Ursinha> hi guys, we're in a meeting at the moment, but ask your questions and I'm sure someone will answer if available :)
[16:14] <iuytfr> i got HP server DL380 G7 server with 8 which is in production, i made a mistake between raid creation
[16:15] <sloop_> someone know how i find the total time in a linux system, not only the since the last boot, like uptime
[16:15] <Ursinha> sloop_, you mean when it was installed?
[16:15] <sloop_> since the first boot
[16:15] <iuytfr> i done raid 10 in 4 instead of 8 disks
[16:15] <sloop_> Ursinha: yes
[16:16] <iuytfr> is it possible to change the raid without restarting the server ?
 if you dont use the partition, yes
[16:18] <sloop_> is it possible?
[16:18] <iuytfr> i got hpaccucli
[16:18] <iuytfr> how to do it ?
[16:18] <iuytfr> which partition ?
[16:18] <sloop_> umount the partition first
[16:19] <sloop_> not, before this, backup your data
[16:19] <sloop_> and umount the partition
[16:20] <iuytfr> there is no way to umount partition
[16:20] <sloop_> and play with mdadm /dev/md0 --grow --level=5
[16:20] <sloop_> or other level
[16:20] <iuytfr> there are virtual machine allready running
[16:20] <sloop_> why you can't umount the partition?
[16:21] <iuytfr> umount which partitioN ?
[16:21] <sloop_> the md device
[16:21] <iuytfr> and it is not raid soft
[16:21] <sloop_> what is?
[16:21] <iuytfr> !raid hard manage by hpacculi
[16:22] <sloop_> hpacculi is a fake raid, it's better that you use mdadm linux raid
[16:22] <sloop_> in this case, you only can do it restarting the server, and, in boot time, edit the raid options
[16:24] <sloop_> continue with my case, anybody know how to view the total uptime in a linux system?
[16:24] <Ursinha> sloop_, trying to figure out :)
[16:25] <sloop_> Ursinha: thanks!
[16:31] <just-a-visitor> There is a „tuptime” utility (http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuptime/), but it uses cron and init to collect uptime statistics, so it will not allow to calculate uptime before installation.
[16:32] <sloop_> just-a-visitor: looks great, if i install it in a new system, i exactly find that i was looking for
[16:32] <sloop_> do you use it?
[16:34] <just-a-visitor> No, I have googled for the possible answer. Looks actively developed though.
[16:34] <sloop_> ok, great
[16:35] <sloop_> I tried it now i my system and later, problably, in my server-farm
[16:35] <Ursinha> sloop_: so it seems that that is not possible
[16:35] <Ursinha> or I lost my google foo (which is possible)
[16:36] <sloop_> Ursinha: not possible for a working system, but I think that is acceptable the installation of tuptime for a new system
[16:36] <sloop_> looks a very small script
[16:36] <sloop_> not?
[16:37] <Ursinha> I haven't heard of tuptime, to be honest
[16:37] <genii-around> It would probably just keep adding the /proc/uptime numbers to a total kept in a separate file surviving reboots
[16:38] <sloop_> I haven't heard anything yet, but every day know anything new
[16:38] <Ursinha> that's clever
[16:38] <sloop_> :)
[16:39] <Ursinha> I'm kinda switching computers so I haven't seen just-a-visitor's suggestion :)
[16:39] <Ursinha> doh
[16:40] <sloop_> I install the deb package, and before libtime-duration-perl, works well
[16:40] <sloop_> it's nice, thanks just-a-visitor!
[16:40] <just-a-visitor> It was http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuptime/, a perl script. And yes, it seem to be doing like: open(FILE6, "< /proc/stat").
[16:41] <Ursinha> yes, thanks :)
[16:41] <Ursinha> thanks for that just-a-visitor
[16:41] <sloop_> the author had the same problem before me :)
[16:41] <just-a-visitor> :)
[16:43] <sloop_> oh, it prints the statistics in the shutdown script
[16:43] <sloop_> nice
[16:49]  * RoyK just got new hardware for his home server and just found out it only had DVI out... booted it up and no console, but configured as earlier - straight up and available...
[16:49]  * RoyK likes linux
[16:53] <patdk-wk> :)
[16:53] <patdk-wk> royk, my sat2-mv's are doing about 700MB/sec each
[16:54] <patdk-wk> but they only have 6 drives on each at the moment
[16:59] <RoyK> patdk-wk: my sat2-mv did rather badly, but not because it's a bad card, only because it was in a slooooow PCI bus (with the old mobo)
[17:00] <RoyK> with this el cheapo mobo, I do 120MB/s per drive, which should be limited on the drive side
[17:14] <jamespage> hggdh: utlemming just gave me the nod to test 20111011 ec2 images - want to kickup of the adhoc test prior to the big one?
[17:14] <hggdh> jamespage: doing it :-)
[17:15] <jamespage> w00t
[17:18] <hggdh> jamespage: brb, gotta reboot after changes in compiz
[17:48] <shattered> smoser, ayt?
[17:49] <smoser> here
[17:49] <smoser> shattered,
[17:49] <shattered> ok then
[17:49] <shattered> here's a list of most annoying bugs
[17:50] <shattered> bug 517574
[17:50] <shattered> bug 794570
[17:51] <shattered> bug 250549
[17:53] <smoser> shattered, ok. none of these are going to get into oneiric, which ships 2 days from now.
[17:53] <smoser> (just to set the expectation)
[17:53] <shattered> sure.
[17:53] <shattered> I'm most interested in getting them into LTS
[17:54] <smoser> are you a developer shattered ? are you interested in going through the merge proposal process?
[17:54] <shattered> not an Ubuntu developer
[17:54] <smoser> not "Ubuntu developer", but in the general sense.
[17:54] <smoser> ie, would would you be interested in going through that process.
[17:54] <smoser> if so, then 517574 woudl seem like a very good place to start.
[17:55] <shattered> aha
[17:55] <smoser> and i can help walk you through.
[17:55] <shattered> let's try that.
[17:56] <smoser> ok. so for the -virutal kernel missing a driver, we your pain will be much alleviated in oneiric.
[17:56] <smoser> there is now a 'linux-image-extra-3.0.0-12-virtual' package
[17:57] <smoser> the intent of that package is tonctian the modules that are not in the -virtual kernel.
[17:58] <shattered> ok, but igbvf is only useful in a VM
[17:58] <shattered> and ixgbevf too
[17:59] <smoser> yeah, so clearly those should be in -virtual
[17:59] <smoser> its just an oversite.
[17:59] <dkn> i want to have the same bob:bob 112:123 user and group on two machines, but when i created bob:bob on another machine i got the id's 112:115 can i just force the new machine's id? or will that break current permissions on the new machine?
[18:00] <dkn> i'm trying to move a HD between them, and be able to access the files from the bob:bob account on both machines
[18:00] <smoser> shattered, /join #ubuntu-kernel
[18:01] <smoser> for that, i've pinged ogasawara in #ubuntu-kernel.
[18:01] <smoser> then that leaves us with
[18:02] <shattered> a lot more bugs :)
[18:06] <smoser> shattered, have you tried 250549 on oneiric ? or on natty ?
[18:06] <smoser> per http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-net-snmp-devel/2011-January/001037.html , it should be fixed in 2.6.36
[18:06] <shattered> no
[18:06] <shattered> I only have Lucid and Karmic
[18:06] <smoser> ok. well, it'd be good to test that, and if it is fixed, then mark it as such.
[18:06] <smoser> this would easily be reproducible in a vm ?
[18:07] <smoser> i can launch you an oneiric instance on EC2 that you can poke at if you'd like
[18:07] <shattered> not sure
[18:08] <smoser> you want to test ?
[18:08] <shattered> a test case is to run   snmpwalk -v 2c -c ... ... ifSpeed
[18:09] <smoser> shattered, do you have a launchpad account?
[18:09] <shattered> yes, ~svs
[18:10] <shattered> aha, 2.6.38 is indeed fixed
[18:11] <shattered> let's take it to #u-k then?
[18:13] <smoser> if you've tested 2.6.38 as fixed fro that but, then mark it fix-released and give the ubuntu kernel package version. that would be great.
[18:13] <shattered> I've tested with a backport of 2.6.38 to Lucid
[18:27] <tdelam> hey guys, is mrtg still the recommended way to graph cpu/mem/traf usage or is there something better?
[18:27] <smoser> shattered, ok. then please update hte bug with that information, and if it was an actual kernel from ubuntu, mark it fix-released.
[18:27] <smoser> then, we're down to the net-snmp bug. i can help you walk thorugh how you'd propose it for merging.
[18:28] <shattered> okay, I'll do that, but there are more bugs :)
[18:28] <shattered> bug 315763
[18:29] <smoser> well, yes. there is a never ending supply of those.
[18:29] <shattered> this one was fairly annoying
[18:29] <shattered> but once I figured the workaround, I could live with it
[18:32] <smoser> shattered, well, definitely the first thing to do there is to see if oneiric is affected.
[18:33] <shattered> once it's released?
[18:33] <smoser> well, it is basically released.
[18:33] <smoser> you can grab an iso and try it out.
[18:33] <shattered> that's the thing, I normally use netboot
[18:33] <shattered> all my servers are remote
[18:34] <smoser> well, a netboot iso.
[18:34] <shattered> okay, will try to get new info
[18:35] <shattered> next ones are doc bugs
[18:35] <shattered> bug 772214
[18:35] <shattered> bug 726600
[18:35] <shattered> bug 597841
[18:40] <smoser> so 772214 looks fix-released per sly's comment in natty.
[18:40] <smoser> do you disagree?
[18:41] <shattered> can't verify
[18:42] <smoser> well, unless sly is lying
[18:42] <shattered> let me check
[18:42] <shattered> I have a complete local mirror
[18:43] <shattered> \fI/var/lib/logrotate.status\fR
[18:43] <shattered> Default state file.
[18:44] <shattered> that's from logrotate_3.7.8-6ubuntu5_amd64.deb
[18:44] <smoser> so fixed, right?
[18:44] <shattered> no :)
[18:44] <shattered> it should be /var/lib/logrotate/status
[18:49] <shattered> next round is code bugs
[18:49] <shattered> bug 692499
[18:50] <shattered> bug 643473
[18:50] <shattered> bug 745603
[18:55] <smoser> shattered, the fith thing to do for 772214 is to either file it upstream or at very least as a debian bug.
[18:56] <shattered> nothing is ever easy, heh
[19:06] <smoser> shattered, basically, it takes effort for ubuntu to fix bugs, and then we have to carry those bug fixes forward if we have delta from debian.
[19:06] <smoser> and that costs time indefinitely
[19:07] <smoser> so for a "trivial" bug, its best to get it fixed upstream or debian and then have it filter down.
[19:11] <shattered> well, there was hope
[19:11] <shattered> ignore doc bugs then.
[19:11] <smoser> i admit they suck
[19:12] <shattered> 692499 is a debian bug too, then?
[19:18] <shattered> and the last round, vmbuilder bugs
[19:18] <shattered> bug 703959 and bug 705395
[19:19] <shattered> bug 576868 too
[19:28] <shattered> oh, I forgone one.  bug 691700
[19:29] <shattered> *forgot
[19:30] <Duvrazh> Hello, trying to set up rsync to push from ubuntu server 11.04 to shared web host (static ip). Can someone help me form a dry-run command to test SSH?
[19:31] <shattered> just ssh or rsync over ssh?
[19:31] <Duvrazh> rsync over ssh
[19:32] <Duvrazh> the ssh command to succesfully login to my server is ssh -p 2222 USER@192.168.1.1              (fake user and ip for security)
[19:36] <Duvrazh> I tried rsync --dry-run --delete --azvv -e ssh /mnt/raid/Photo -p 2222 USERNAME@192.168.1.1/public_html/Subdomain/family/rsync       to no avail
[19:37] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: error message?
[19:38] <shattered> you can use ~/.ssh/config
[19:38] <shattered> put Port and User there
[19:38] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: error message?
[19:38] <shattered> you can use ~/.ssh/config
[19:38] <shattered> put Port and User there
[19:38] <Duvrazh> --azvv unknown option
[19:38] <Duvrazh> --azvv unknown option
[19:38] <koolhead17> lynxman: hey
[19:38] <koolhead17> lynxman: hey
[19:38] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: so no double dash then
[19:38] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: so no double dash then
[19:38] <Duvrazh> i was looking for recursive, preserve
[19:38] <Duvrazh> i was looking for recursive, preserve
[19:39] <Duvrazh> omg...
[19:39] <Duvrazh> omg...
[19:39] <Duvrazh> moment please
[19:39] <Duvrazh> moment please
[19:40] <Duvrazh> rsync: link_stat "/root/2222" failed: No such file or directory (2)
[19:40] <Duvrazh> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7]
[19:41] <Duvrazh> Perhaps the ssh command has to be passed in a different way?
[19:41] <Duvrazh> I'm not sure where to start there
[19:42] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: you'll need to pass the port stuff like this i think:  .... -e 'ssh -p 2222' ....
[19:43] <Duvrazh> pmatulis: my command was rsync --dry-run --delete -azvv -e ssh /mnt/raid/Photo -p 2222 USERNAME@192.168.1.1/public_html/Subdomain/family/rsync
[19:44] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: so try what i just suggested
[19:45] <Duvrazh> do I need to move the src directory? I'm still getting error code 23
[19:46] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: did you try what i suggested?
[19:46] <Duvrazh> yes i believe i did
[19:46] <Duvrazh> ill paste
[19:46] <Duvrazh> rsync --delete -azvv -e 'ssh /mnt/raid/Photo/rsync 2222' duvrazh@50.116.66.128/public_html/Subdomain/family/rsync
[19:47] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: i didn't say that at all
[19:47] <Duvrazh> I must ask you dumb it down for me, I've little experience with the CLI
[19:48] <pmatulis> ....-azvv -e 'ssh -p 2222' duvrazh@....
[19:50] <Duvrazh> closer... rsync says sending incremental file list rsync: link_stat "/root/2222" failed: No such file or directory (2) rsync: mkdir "/root/duvrazh@50.116.66.128/public_html/Subdomain/family/rsync" failed: No such file or directory (2) rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at main.c(595) [Receiver=3.0.7] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (9 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream 
[19:51] <Duvrazh> the destination has user/pass auth, I'm assuming this at some point should 'ask' for a password?
[19:53] <Duvrazh> I'm also open to the fact that I might be trying the impossible.
[19:54] <pmatulis> rsync --delete -azvv -e 'ssh -p 2222' /mnt/raid/Photo/rsync duvrazh@50.116.66.128:/public_html/Subdomain/family/rsync
[19:54] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: try ⤴
[19:55] <Duvrazh> Asked me for the p/w, however
[19:55] <Duvrazh> rsync: mkdir "/public_html/Subdomain/family/rsync" failed: No such file or directory (2) rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at main.c(576) [receiver=3.0.6] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (9 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(601) [sender=3.0.7]
[19:56] <Duvrazh> that folder exists
[19:56] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: maybe user 'duvrazh' does not have enough permissions to write on the destination
[19:57] <Duvrazh> I own the destination... I created it with that user
[19:58] <pmatulis> Duvrazh: replace everything after the '128:' with /tmp
[19:58] <pmatulis> got to go, good luck
[19:58] <Duvrazh> pmatulis: thanks
[20:05] <philipballew> Can anyone reccomend a good lamp book?
[20:06] <RoyK> philipballew: google is a good start :P
[20:08] <philipballew> RoyK, I did. Just wondered if anyone had any firsthand knowlege
[20:08] <SpamapS> ivoks: FYI, your upload of openstack-dashboard to oneiric-proposed was rejected because it has no bug reference.. please add one, the rest looked fine.
[20:09] <RoyK> philipballew: the apache config should be simple, mysql (or postgresql) is a database thing, and should be doable with some readup, php is well documented on php.net
[20:09] <philipballew> yeah, I might be looking for a good book on it
[20:10] <RoyK> php or sql?
[20:10] <RoyK> apache and linux setup is trivial - just install the ubuntu server, check LAMP server and it's all there
[20:11] <RoyK> then comes the coding, which is php and sql
[20:11] <SpamapS> P can be Perl or Python too ;)
[20:11] <philipballew> RoyK, I just need to find a good book for it
[20:11] <SpamapS> of the three, I'd say python is the long term better choice. :)
[20:12] <koolhead17> SpamapS: openstack-dashboard with or without keystone? D
[20:12] <RoyK> philipballew: I gues there are dozens - google it ;)
[20:13] <SpamapS> philipballew: This is meant with no offense.. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/computers-software/programming/php.html .. those books are actually usually good ways to go if you have zero context on a subject
[20:14] <SpamapS> actually don't click that link
[20:14] <SpamapS> but, PHP & MySQL for dummies is out there.. somewhere
[20:15] <philipballew> alright, I mean, I can get the ubuntu server book, but im not sure if thats gonna not be challenging enough?
[20:16] <zul> SpamapS: found it....seventh level of hell
[20:17] <SpamapS> its been upgraded from the 9th.. awesome
[20:17] <zul> time off for good behavior
[20:18] <RoyK> philipballew: do you know any SQL or PHP?
[20:19] <philipballew> RoyK, no, but I plan to learn a little with lamop
[20:20] <RoyK> philipballew: just install lamp and test out SQL in the mysql commandline
[20:20] <RoyK> it's fairly simple, at least for starters
[20:21] <RoyK> then, when you have a table or two with some data, just read up on php to read or modify that
[20:21] <philipballew> http://www.amazon.com/Setting-Up-LAMP-Getting-Together/dp/0782143377/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318363660&sr=1-1
[20:21] <philipballew> i might look at this
[20:21] <philipballew> and try it out while i wait for it to come
[20:22] <SpamapS> philipballew: there's a relevant quote for you here..
[20:22] <SpamapS> "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea."
[20:22] <SpamapS> - Antoine de Saint Exupéry
[20:22] <SpamapS> philipballew: forget about LAMP ... decide what you are going to do with it first.
[20:22]  * philipballew ponders
[20:22] <philipballew> SpamapS, host a website
[20:22] <SpamapS> that does what?
[20:23] <philipballew> SpamapS, whatever I want to at a partictular time. Probably host a blog
[20:24] <SpamapS> pick one thing first, and do that with it. :)
[20:24] <SpamapS> Otherwise you won't actually learn PHP or MySQL .. you'll just find all the easy tasks and do them.
[20:48] <aarcane> Hi, I'm interrested in setting up my own private cloud, and I have two machines to host  the cloud and I want them to be "fully redundant", IE if either fails, the other will be able to run the cloud...  guests?  Is that the right term?  without batting an eyelash.  a few minutes of downtime is acceptible, but failover has to be autonomous to be worth my time implementing it.
[20:48] <aarcane> Is the UEC software capable of handling this sort of setup, including data replication?  I've been browsing the manuals and have yet to identify an answer.
[20:54] <smoser> aarcane, not that i know of.
[21:05] <geekbri_> im looking to build my own php5 .deb for ubuntu 10.04.  Is there any guidance or generally good docs anybody can link to that explain the build process.  I've tried reading some out there but i find myself pretty lost.  Im really just looking to build php with my own set of ./configure rules then install the binaries.
[21:17] <wmp> hello, i have my server in pyhon, and when i kill him, i cant turn on this server
[21:17] <wmp> i have used port:
[21:17] <wmp>  netstat -tlp | grep ":666"
[21:17] <wmp> tcp        0      0 *:666                   *:*                     LISTEN      -
[21:18] <wmp> how to kill process who using this port?
[21:18] <RoyK> wmp: fuser -n tcp 666
[21:18] <RoyK> that'll give you the process
[21:19] <wmp> fuser give me none
[21:19] <RoyK> does lsof show it?
[21:19] <wmp> could give me options to lsof?
[21:19] <wmp> :)
[21:19] <RoyK> fuser -n tcp should show listening tcp ports
[21:19] <RoyK> just run lsof | grep 666
[21:20] <wmp> nothing
[21:21] <RoyK> wmp: and telnet localhost 666 says what?
[21:21] <wmp> i can connect
[21:21] <wmp> but this isnt my server ;)
[21:21] <RoyK> lsof/fuser works for the local machine
[21:21] <wmp> yes
[21:22] <RoyK> if you're looking for the PID on a remote machine, you're in trouble
[21:22] <wmp> RoyK: on other machine when i kill my server, port 666 is binding to rtorrent
[21:22] <wmp> so i kill rtorrent and 666 is free
[21:22] <wmp> RoyK: i work on good machine ;)
[21:23] <RoyK> might be the process opening the port in a funny way
[21:24] <wmp> maybe
[21:24] <wmp> but how to make free this port? :)
[21:24] <wmp> RoyK: and maybe you know how to get process capabilities?
[21:25] <wmp> this can be helpfull
[21:26] <RoyK> wmp: a socket doesn't close automatically if the process dies
[21:27] <wmp> maybe, i dont knwo this, this isny my code
[21:27] <RoyK> iirc using O_REUSE will allow a new process to reuse the old one
[21:27] <RoyK> SO_REUSEADDR
[21:27] <RoyK> even
[21:28] <wmp> hmmm, how to use this?
[21:28] <RoyK> but then, if you can connect to the socket, it should be verifiable with fuser/lsof
[21:29] <wmp> but this give nothing
[21:29] <RoyK> wmp: can you telnet localhost 666?
[21:30] <wmp> yes
[21:31] <wmp> but this isnt my server
[21:42] <jamespage> utlemming, smoser, Daviey: ec2 ami testing results - https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/10/
[21:43] <utlemming> jamepage: much thanks :)
[21:43] <jamespage> generally looks good to me - a few network issues when remote testing root SSH login (indicated by yellow test results)
[21:44] <jamespage> and a couple of errors - they both look like ec2 provisioning errors to me
[21:44]  * jamespage eod
[21:44] <utlemming> I concur
[21:49] <dork> anyone experienced with troubleshooting software raid and GPT issues? the ol 'where does grub install itself' thing
[22:01] <wmp> RoyK: have you any idea?
[22:16] <jcastro> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Cloud-Computing/Ubuntu-Server-Aims-to-Own-the-Cloud-263087/
[22:16] <jcastro> looks like this guy even checked out orchestra with bare metal!
[22:21] <kirkland> jcastro: nice article
[22:22] <kirkland> jcastro: i recognize that name...jason brooks...where?
[22:22] <jcastro> I can't place it either
[22:36] <ivoks> SpamapS: my upload? hm...
[22:36] <ivoks> ah... debdiff i've sent to zul
[22:38] <SpamapS> its ok, I rejected one of his other ones too. :)
[22:39] <koolhead17> SpamapS: is LXC containers finally supported for juju?
[22:40] <koolhead17> or is it the other way around.
[22:42] <SpamapS> koolhead17: its fully supported to use the local provider, which uses LXC containers
[22:42] <SpamapS> I have not looked at the docs for how to get it setup just yet
[22:43] <koolhead17> ok. so current documentation still points to test charms via ec2
[22:48] <SpamapS> koolhead17: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706369/
[22:48] <SpamapS> koolhead17: thats all you need in environments.yaml
[22:52] <koolhead17> SpamapS: thanks
[22:57] <koolhead17> SpamapS: also am little confused how db-relation-changed works and pushes all authentication from existing mysql charm.
[23:01] <SpamapS> koolhead17: not sure what you're asking
[23:02] <koolhead17> SpamapS: in drupal charm example i am mentioning db:     interface: mysql
[23:03] <koolhead17> as requires
[23:03] <SpamapS> koolhead17: right, so when you get a db-relation-changed hook, you need to use 'relation-get' to get the values that you need
[23:04] <koolhead17> SpamapS: user=`relation-get user` password=`relation-get password` host=`relation-get host`
[23:04] <koolhead17> and i have 2 forget about the mysql server, is it? :)
[23:08] <SpamapS> koolhead17: thats it. Note that you can use host=`relation-get private-address` instead .. the 'host' part of the mysql relation will go away at some point.
[23:12] <koolhead17> SpamapS: ok. mostly am fighting with dbconig-common and trying to feed it with pressed as it wants :(
[23:18] <monokrome> hey
[23:19] <monokrome> Does anyone here know how to use DHCP with a static address?
[23:19] <qman__> the two are mutually exclusive
[23:19] <qman__> unless you're referring to DHCP reservations
[23:20] <monokrome> That's still the case.
[23:20] <monokrome> Oops. Wrong paste.
[23:20] <monokrome> qman__: http://d.pr/tTOA
[23:20] <monokrome> There is a DHCP reservation for this machine, but the machine still needs to request that address.
[23:47] <deebee_> monokrome: What exactly are you trying to achieve? If it's a DHCP reservation, then the client doesn't request a particular address, it just asks for "an address", and the server looks up the client in it's list of reservations using the client's MAC address
[23:49] <monokrome> hmm
[23:57] <shauno> 'dhcp with a manual address' does require server-side support, for ipv4.  osx doesn't make that very obvious.