[02:05] <braiam> --help
[06:46] <dpm> morning all
[07:07] <kelemengabor> dpm: good morning
[07:07] <dpm> hey kelemengabor :)
[07:07] <kelemengabor> I have to note that bug #857136  is pure evil :(
[07:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 857136 in lightdm (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Change password dialog not fully translated (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857136
[07:08] <dpm> oh, I was just reading it
[07:09] <dpm> I wanted to ping robert_ancell about it, but he doesn't seem to be around
[07:26] <dpm> kelemengabor, so did you install gdm, set it up as default manager and logged in with it, or did you simply install it and logged in with lightdm?
[07:26] <kelemengabor> dpm: the first, I logged it with gdm and the problem was solved
[07:26] <kelemengabor> in
[07:27] <kelemengabor> and set it up as default
[07:27] <dpm> kelemengabor, thanks, let me send an e-mail to robert_ancell
[07:27] <kelemengabor> dpm: one more thing
[07:28] <kelemengabor> if you log in with lightdm and see the untranslated strings, run gnome-keyring-daemon --replace, try again and the strings will appear translated
[07:30] <dpm> kelemengabor, weird. Would you mind adding all this info in the bug? It will make it easier than me forwarding it to Robert
[07:30] <kelemengabor> sure
[07:30] <dpm> thanks :)
[07:31] <kelemengabor> I wrote this to the upstream bug, but forgot to copy
[07:31] <dpm> ah, I see. I read the upstream bug, but only skimmed through the comments
[13:12] <kelemengabor> seems like we are in a pretty bad shape for the "localized install without network connection" use case: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kelemeng/pix/languageselector-updatenotifier.png
[13:16] <iceroot> there is https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/seahorse/+pots/seahorse/de/315/+translate last changed 2008. in 11.10 there is still "delete" instead of "löschen". what is the task that this will goes into the package "seahorse"?
[13:16] <iceroot> or is this a bug in "seahorse" where the menu-item "delete" is not mapped to a po-file (or something like that)
[13:26] <kelemengabor> iceroot: are you sure that this is the occurrence of Delete you see untranslated? not the one in the local and Edit menus, i.e. https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/seahorse/+pots/seahorse/de/477/+translate ? because I know what's going on with this one, only I had no time to file the bug - yet
[13:28] <iceroot> kelemengabor: i am not sure if it is the correct entry but i dont know where to search then for that missing translation in the menu-bar
[13:28] <iceroot> kelemengabor: launchpad says 100% translated for seahorse in 11.10 but that is not correct
[13:28] <kelemengabor> iceroot: the menu entry has a hotkey, it reads _Delete
[13:29] <kelemengabor> iceroot: it isn't, because the context is used in a wrong place
[13:29] <iceroot> kelemengabor: delete doesnt have a hotkey here
[13:29] <kelemengabor> Context:           This text refers to deleting an item from its type's backing store.
[13:29] <kelemengabor> iceroot: not even after pressing Alt ?
[13:30] <iceroot> or better, delete doesnt show a hotkey-combination here only "edit - copy" and "edit - insert" but not "edit - delete"
[13:32] <iceroot> kelemengabor: http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/seahorse.jpg
[13:33] <iceroot> this "delete" is not translated into "löschen"
[13:33] <kelemengabor> iceroot: okay, this is the one I know about :)
[13:33] <kelemengabor> it is indeed a bug
[13:33] <iceroot> kelemengabor: ok, i will create a bug then about this issue
[13:34] <kelemengabor> iceroot: it is an upstream one, so please do so in bugzilla.gnome.org
[13:35] <iceroot> kelemengabor: arent bugs from "untouched packages" automaticly goes upstream to the project?
[13:36] <iceroot> kelemengabor: or do you mean with upstream that it is not an ubuntu-bug but a gnome-bug?
[13:36] <kelemengabor> iceroot: I don't think so, usually a human is required to do the upstream forwarding
[13:36] <kelemengabor> it is a gnome bug
[13:37] <iceroot> kelemengabor: thank you for your time, i will create the bug at the gnome-project
[13:37] <kelemengabor> thanks!
[13:38] <kelemengabor> I'm a little busy right now to do it myself :(
[13:39] <iceroot> no problem, i dont have a problem with doing it myself i just was not sure if it is a bug or if i am wrong with the handling of launchpad
[15:22] <artnay> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/814822 does this happen to you as well? please confirm
[15:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 814822 in yelp (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Desktop Guide is not translated (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:36] <dpm> artnay, the docs weren't translated in French. Were they translated in Finnish?
[15:38] <artnay> dpm: 74 percently so far
[15:38] <kelemengabor> artnay: I'm not sure it is the same problem, on Natty, it was highly probable that he meant the whole text, while on your screenshot only the title is not translated (which may be a bug too, but that string was not translated in time to my language)
[15:38] <artnay> gone for a while >
[15:39] <dpm> artnay, I seem to remember that the docs team do not include translations for languages below 80%, so it might be that they did not get built and thus not picked up by the language packs
[15:40] <kelemengabor> dpm: mine is 66% ready, and that part seems to be in place
[15:41] <kelemengabor> dpm: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubuntu-docs/+pots/ubuntu-help/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=ubuntu+desktop+guide
[15:41] <kelemengabor> this looks to be translated in time
[15:42] <kelemengabor> but this is a separate issue from the whole thing not being translated
[15:49] <dpm> artnay, have you got the latest language packs? And do you have any files under /usr/share/help-langpack/fi/ubuntu-help?
[16:29] <kelemengabor> iceroot: I have dug out my patch for that seahorse problem, did you manage to file that bug? If so, what's the link? Otherwise, I can go ahead now
[17:43] <iceroot> kelemengabor: i am in one hour at home, atm i only have umts
[17:43] <kelemengabor> iceroot: no problem, I'll do it then
[17:44] <iceroot> kelemengabor: will you append the patch there? then i can create a launchpad-bug and create a debdiff
[17:44] <kelemengabor> sure
[18:28] <trijntje> artnay: translations of the ubuntu help show for dutch(nl) for me
[18:34] <kelemengabor> trijntje: even the document title at the top of the pages? like the one on this picture: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/82548587/Kuvakaappaus%202011-10-11%2018%3A20%3A04.png
[18:35] <kelemengabor> iceroot: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=661481
[18:35] <ubot4> Gnome bug 661481 in general "Delete menu item does not show up translated" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[18:36] <iceroot> kelemengabor: thank you