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MarkDudeFedora has chosen the name of Beefy Miracle as release name for F17 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2011-October/003002.html01:10
MarkDudeWe need a joint shirt with Pangolin and Hot Dog hanging out01:10
Faqtotumfacepalm01:18
* MarkDude will start taking orders on shirts now01:25
DarkwingHAH!03:29
DarkwingI think I may have found a new IRC nick...03:29
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DarkwingWell, nevermind.03:30
pleia2:P03:30
DarkwingIt's taken.03:30
pleia2thank goodness03:31
DarkwingLOL!03:31
DarkwingNaww, I'll stick to Darkwing.03:31
pleia2\o/03:31
pleia2so I am now an expert on cloud (just kidding, but I can probably talk about it without sounding like an idiot now03:31
pleia2)03:31
pleia2can't say the same for talking about Unity, but whatever :)03:32
pleia2was at dinner tonight with some folks at this networking conference my fiance is attending (it's why we're in philly) and one of them was like "ubuntu? I have a question for you... [why did they make unity, ruining my life rant here]'03:33
FaqtotumDarkwing: bkerensa used to use the nick _-_-_03:33
DarkwingLOL03:33
pleia2"because gnome3 was yucky" "ok, why did gnome3 decide to change everything?" "oh, um..."03:34
Faqtotumbut he's come a long way since then; oregon is pretty far03:34
pleia2because it's ..better?03:34
* MarkDude was advising for slogans for next release, I suggested Gnome3 it is not nearly as sh*tty as you think :D03:42
MarkDudeBest most positive I could be03:43
MarkDudeWent to gnome site- it has just as clean- not much to it feel :P03:43
MarkDudeDarkwing, (the nick formally known as Duck) does KDE have slogan like we use both hands - just to be able to flip the bird to both of the window managers?03:45
MarkDudegrantbow,  I am sure folks in Nairobi will care  >> http://beefymiracle.org/03:51
MarkDudeOne more link and I will shut up ( I am still doing happy dance) http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda-images.git;a=blob_plain;f=rnotes/f11rh7-3is_intermission.png;h=8307233e663063a80c622aa20e5229069433dc41;hb=1896a3f050553eeb0ff971658e1a88b8893a592003:53
MarkDudeThat is where it all started. The original hotdog03:53
bkerensaFaqtotum: ?06:37
bkerensaDarkwing ?06:37
philipballewwould anyone be able to recomend a good book to learn linux server admin type stuff?06:58
nhainesphilipballew: what kind fo server?07:00
philipballewnhaines, well im currently running a debian server.07:00
philipballewcan I say that is the ubuntu channel? haha07:01
nhainesphilipballew: Debian and Ubuntu are platforms, not servers.07:01
philipballewah, I thought you were asking what i am running on my server.07:01
nhainesNo, I'm asking what kind of server would you like to run.07:01
philipballewweb server07:01
philipballewprobably07:02
philipballewseems the best profitable07:02
nhainesThen you pick a web server (apache, lighthttpd, etc) and learn that.07:02
philipballewalright. Ill look into it. maybe a lamp stack or something07:02
nhainesThe OS doesn't have a lot to do with the particulars, except in a few details (config location, etc.)07:03
philipballewalright. is there really big differences between say a R.H. type set up compared to a Debian type?07:04
nhainesAs I said, no.07:05
Darkwingbkerensa: What's up?07:05
philipballewok, that makes sense now that you said that. Ill let you know what I buy sometime. Your a really helpful person nhaines07:05
nhainesphilipballew: just focus on each task.  That's what you'll really need and it's what you'll find the books on.  :)07:06
nhainesDefinitely let me know what you find!07:06
philipballewalright. I have amazon prime so im gonna be buying 3 tech books tonight07:07
philipballewpython book, networking book, and a lamp book07:07
nhainesAmazon Prime is fun.  I'm glad I don't have it.  :)07:07
philipballewI get a free year because im a college student07:07
philipballewafter that its only 40 a year for me07:07
nhainesHalf off!07:08
nhainesI recommend http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Python-Novice-Professional-Second/dp/1590599829/07:08
nhainesFor Python.  Magnus Lie Hetland is a very clear writer.07:08
philipballewI.ll buy it!07:10
nhainesI have the first edition, and the second edition (linked) for Kindle.  Haven't gone through the second edition but it should be just as good.07:11
nhainesphilipballew: you'll get your books on Friday but you can install GvRng from the Ubuntu Software Center in the meantime to get the feel of Python, plus it's fun.07:13
MarkDudehttp://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/live/ Ubuntu UK is LIVE now19:34
* MarkDude hears British folks19:42
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nhainesMuch like the non-existent release candidate, Canonical also isn't telling me what's happening with the order I placed last week.20:40
pleia2maybe they want you to be surprised when it shows up20:40
nhainespleia2: :)20:41
philipballewnhaines, i think im gonna buy that python book you recomended20:41
rwwat least we're not stuck at eight days before release now :320:42
nhainespleia2: I don't have a release party to go to, so I don't need the clothing for that, but I did do a split order with some coworkers and they were asking.20:42
pleia2nhaines: *nod*20:42
pleia2rww: yeah, I poked them20:43
nhainesphilipballew: I wish I had a way to lend you my copy so you could check it out.  But you can always look at this by the same author, for a taste.  It convinced me to go out and buy his book: http://hetland.org/writing/instant-python.html20:43
nhainespleia2: luckily, we have customer's complaining about RMA and online store ship times constantly anyway, so they know how things work.20:43
nhainesSomeone placed an order at like 8pm Friday night for overnight delivery and was angry when she didn't get the package until the next Tuesday.20:44
bkerensaphilipballew: Who is the publisher of the book?20:47
nhainesbkerensa: Apress20:47
bkerensanhaines: Likely Apress would ship a free copy if it's for a LoCo20:47
nhainesbkerensa: I think it's just for him though.  But that does give me an idea!20:48
* philipballew is just looking for a light read20:48
* nhaines 's idea is to shake down publishers for Ubucon prizes.20:48
bkerensanhaines: You should come up to Portland for OSCON and help me setup a Ubuntu After Party20:49
bkerensa:D20:49
* bkerensa is trying to get a boat20:49
nhaineslol20:49
pleia2boo, I forgot my presentation remote20:50
bkerensanhaines: ;) There is a boat on the waterfront downtown for events so I'm trying to find out how much to rent it for a few hours and sort out getting someone to pay for that, drinks and catering20:50
bkerensa:D20:50
nhainespleia2: just use a Wii controller and Bluetooth!  :D20:50
pleia2nhaines: I'm in a hotel in philadelphia, I don't haz!20:50
nhainespleia2: D:20:50
nhainespleia2: if it were November you could pick up the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword collector's bundle and use the limited edition golden remote!20:51
pleia2hehe20:51
bkerensalol20:51
nhainesThat makes it a business writeoff right?20:51
pleia2if I were paid or did this for a job, sure :)20:52
pleia2alas!20:52
nhainesdetails!20:52
bkerensaFedex is here20:55
bkerensa:D20:55
bkerensaYAY20:55
guawoo20:57
bkerensaYay Kingston sent me a 32GB DataTraveler Locker+20:57
bkerensa:D20:57
* nhaines needs more free stuff.20:58
* pleia2 gives nhaines free hugs20:58
nhaines\o/20:58
pleia2ok, off to start wandering toward the suburbs for my first 11.10 talk20:59
nhainesGood luck!  You'll do great!  :)20:59
nhainesAlso publish your slides for others to steal!  ;)20:59
guawhat's the name of that python book talked about above?20:59
pleia2nhaines: always!20:59
* pleia2 heads out20:59
philipballewhttp://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Python-Professional-Magnus-Hetland/dp/1590599829/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318365856&sr=1-121:00
nhainesgua: Beginning Python by Magnus Lie Hetland.  ISBN: 978-1590599822 http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Python-Novice-Professional-Second/dp/1590599829/21:00
guaahh thanks21:00
guanhaines: is it for people new to programming or new to python?21:00
nhainesgua: both!  :D21:00
guaaha21:01
bkerensanhaines: If you are ever in Portland I have lots of free stuff I often dont want21:01
bkerensanhaines: I usually give it to friends21:01
bkerensa:P21:01
* bkerensa gave a android tablet away a few weeks back21:01
nhainesbkerensa: I'm pretty much never in Portland.  :P21:01
nhainesAww, I could've used an Android tablet though.21:02
nhainesLet the sponsors note!  :P21:02
nhainesbkerensa: if you get a free Amazon Kindle Fire let me know.  :P21:02
bkerensanhaines: It wont happen... Amazon and Apple have horrible PR along with Google and MS21:02
bkerensa:P21:02
bkerensathey wont send me so much as a pen21:02
bkerensa:P21:02
MarkDudeMaybe try the cowboy21:03
nhainesbkerensa: tell them the first step towards better PR is baby steps and also Kindles.21:03
bkerensanhaines: :P21:03
MarkDudebkerensa, I think Garret still works there21:03
nhainesAlso I doubt Apple needs the PR and I'm sure MS loves sending free software to FOSS advocates!21:03
bkerensanhaines: The problem is they do most of their PR internally.... While other companies I work with have PR firms who love to spoil me21:04
bkerensa:D21:04
nhainesbkerensa: haha, that could be it!21:04
nhainesI know that Microsoft can shower people with software when they want.21:04
bkerensanhaines: Yeah at a CTL party Microsoft offered me free boxed MS Office, Shirts and other stuffs21:04
bkerensaand I declined21:05
bkerensa:D21:05
bkerensashowed them my Ubuntu lanyard21:05
bkerensaone rep was like what is that and the other muttered "Open source"21:05
bkerensaMarkDude: You know MS can hook up decent drinks though :) remember the CLS after party that Intel and MS sponsored21:06
nhainesbkerensa: hahaha21:06
MarkDudeTheir $ does work well for drinks and food21:06
guashould've looked confused asked if MS Office was some knockoff of LibreOffice21:08
nhainesAsk them if they fixed ODF support yet.21:09
MarkDudehttp://fearthecowboy.com/21:09
MarkDudeOpen Source and MS :D21:10
guai've been out of the loop for a little big, was the release of Oneiric pushed back?21:11
guai thought they were going for the 10th21:11
nhainesgua: no, it's been the 13th since... well, before natty launched.  :)21:11
nhainesUbuntu always releases on Thursdays.21:11
guaah oh ok. i guess i never looked up the date but assumed21:11
nhainesAt least for the last 14 releases.  :)21:12
guacan't break the tradition :)21:12
nhaines10.10 was a big deal, and in fact, the only exception (so for the last 13 releases).21:12
nhainesBut they did that for marketing (read: to be silly).21:12
nhainesOn the bright side, now we get releases in the middle of the month instead of at the end!21:13
guaah yeahh. i just remember people weren't so happy since some things were kinda broken21:13
bkerensaMarkDude: You know your going to make out like a bandit next year at OSCON? I will be saving some goodies for your arrival :D21:13
nhainesgua: That's the last 14 releases too.  :)21:13
bkerensaMarkDude: Oh and next year Ubuntu Oregon might have one of those XO laptops at our booth21:13
guanhaines: hah, well some more than others21:13
guaheh that's kind of nice. actually releasing inside of month 04 and 10, instead of really close to the end and technically being within the month21:14
nhainesThe "Breaky Brokehog" release was not the finiest.21:14
nhainess/finiest/finest/21:14
guastill not sure what sabfdl was thinking with that name21:14
MarkDudeYou get great donations bkerensa21:14
MarkDudeYou need to do a session for the next Open Week21:14
MarkDudeShare your knowledge21:15
bkerensaMarkDude: I dont have time :P21:15
bkerensaMarkDude: I'm epic behind right now21:15
nhainesYeah, that one hour of talking takes a good five hours of preparation.21:15
nhaines(or at least beer)21:15
bkerensaLOL21:15
MarkDudeThis suit will be at OSCON next year bkerensa http://mairin.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/sxsw-expo-day-2/21:19
MarkDudeYou can plan a few pics with it21:19
MarkDudeMaybe see if you can get a beer donation- and make another Maddog special brew21:22
MarkDudeBeer and Jon are great promotional tools for folks in PNW21:23
MarkDudeDid you see the last one made for him?21:23
MarkDudeBrother Maddogs Belgium beer or sumthin21:24
bkerensaMarkDude: I guess we better bring our A-Game at OSCON21:24
bkerensa:D21:24
MarkDudeWell you will21:25
* MarkDude still thinks there is room for TWO Ubuntu booths21:25
MarkDudeOregon as a host21:25
MarkDudeand a Local Team in general booth, with info for joining wordwide, etc21:25
MarkDudeO'Reilly has given ok for such a thing already, the past 2 years21:26
bkerensaMarkDude: You mean a Canonical booth? :P21:35
MarkDudeWell Canonical does not generally have specifics on joining local teams21:36
MarkDudethe whole Aubergine and Orange banner deal21:37
MarkDudehttp://akgraner.com/?p=105221:38
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MarkDudeOMG, this is horrible >> https://www.facebook.com/2share23:24
MarkDudeFB sparkly gifs, great way to turn FB into myspace23:25
MarkDuderww you can help ruin fb if you wan to help23:25
MarkDudeI just put a big sparkly heart on G's wall23:28

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