[01:10] Fedora has chosen the name of Beefy Miracle as release name for F17 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2011-October/003002.html [01:10] We need a joint shirt with Pangolin and Hot Dog hanging out [01:18] facepalm [01:25] * MarkDude will start taking orders on shirts now [03:29] HAH! [03:29] I think I may have found a new IRC nick... === Darkwing is now known as |-_-| === |-_-| is now known as Darkwing [03:30] Well, nevermind. [03:30] :P [03:30] It's taken. [03:31] thank goodness [03:31] LOL! [03:31] Naww, I'll stick to Darkwing. [03:31] \o/ [03:31] so I am now an expert on cloud (just kidding, but I can probably talk about it without sounding like an idiot now [03:31] ) [03:32] can't say the same for talking about Unity, but whatever :) [03:33] was at dinner tonight with some folks at this networking conference my fiance is attending (it's why we're in philly) and one of them was like "ubuntu? I have a question for you... [why did they make unity, ruining my life rant here]' [03:33] Darkwing: bkerensa used to use the nick _-_-_ [03:33] LOL [03:34] "because gnome3 was yucky" "ok, why did gnome3 decide to change everything?" "oh, um..." [03:34] but he's come a long way since then; oregon is pretty far [03:34] because it's ..better? [03:42] * MarkDude was advising for slogans for next release, I suggested Gnome3 it is not nearly as sh*tty as you think :D [03:43] Best most positive I could be [03:43] Went to gnome site- it has just as clean- not much to it feel :P [03:45] Darkwing, (the nick formally known as Duck) does KDE have slogan like we use both hands - just to be able to flip the bird to both of the window managers? [03:51] grantbow, I am sure folks in Nairobi will care >> http://beefymiracle.org/ [03:53] One more link and I will shut up ( I am still doing happy dance) http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda-images.git;a=blob_plain;f=rnotes/f11rh7-3is_intermission.png;h=8307233e663063a80c622aa20e5229069433dc41;hb=1896a3f050553eeb0ff971658e1a88b8893a5920 [03:53] That is where it all started. The original hotdog [06:37] Faqtotum: ? [06:37] Darkwing ? [06:58] would anyone be able to recomend a good book to learn linux server admin type stuff? [07:00] philipballew: what kind fo server? [07:00] nhaines, well im currently running a debian server. [07:01] can I say that is the ubuntu channel? haha [07:01] philipballew: Debian and Ubuntu are platforms, not servers. [07:01] ah, I thought you were asking what i am running on my server. [07:01] No, I'm asking what kind of server would you like to run. [07:01] web server [07:02] probably [07:02] seems the best profitable [07:02] Then you pick a web server (apache, lighthttpd, etc) and learn that. [07:02] alright. Ill look into it. maybe a lamp stack or something [07:03] The OS doesn't have a lot to do with the particulars, except in a few details (config location, etc.) [07:04] alright. is there really big differences between say a R.H. type set up compared to a Debian type? [07:05] As I said, no. [07:05] bkerensa: What's up? [07:05] ok, that makes sense now that you said that. Ill let you know what I buy sometime. Your a really helpful person nhaines [07:06] philipballew: just focus on each task. That's what you'll really need and it's what you'll find the books on. :) [07:06] Definitely let me know what you find! [07:07] alright. I have amazon prime so im gonna be buying 3 tech books tonight [07:07] python book, networking book, and a lamp book [07:07] Amazon Prime is fun. I'm glad I don't have it. :) [07:07] I get a free year because im a college student [07:07] after that its only 40 a year for me [07:08] Half off! [07:08] I recommend http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Python-Novice-Professional-Second/dp/1590599829/ [07:08] For Python. Magnus Lie Hetland is a very clear writer. [07:10] I.ll buy it! [07:11] I have the first edition, and the second edition (linked) for Kindle. Haven't gone through the second edition but it should be just as good. [07:13] philipballew: you'll get your books on Friday but you can install GvRng from the Ubuntu Software Center in the meantime to get the feel of Python, plus it's fun. [19:34] http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/live/ Ubuntu UK is LIVE now [19:42] * MarkDude hears British folks === ryaxnb_ is now known as ryaxnb [20:40] Much like the non-existent release candidate, Canonical also isn't telling me what's happening with the order I placed last week. [20:40] maybe they want you to be surprised when it shows up [20:41] pleia2: :) [20:41] nhaines, i think im gonna buy that python book you recomended [20:42] at least we're not stuck at eight days before release now :3 [20:42] pleia2: I don't have a release party to go to, so I don't need the clothing for that, but I did do a split order with some coworkers and they were asking. [20:42] nhaines: *nod* [20:43] rww: yeah, I poked them [20:43] philipballew: I wish I had a way to lend you my copy so you could check it out. But you can always look at this by the same author, for a taste. It convinced me to go out and buy his book: http://hetland.org/writing/instant-python.html [20:43] pleia2: luckily, we have customer's complaining about RMA and online store ship times constantly anyway, so they know how things work. [20:44] Someone placed an order at like 8pm Friday night for overnight delivery and was angry when she didn't get the package until the next Tuesday. [20:47] philipballew: Who is the publisher of the book? [20:47] bkerensa: Apress [20:47] nhaines: Likely Apress would ship a free copy if it's for a LoCo [20:48] bkerensa: I think it's just for him though. But that does give me an idea! [20:48] * philipballew is just looking for a light read [20:48] * nhaines 's idea is to shake down publishers for Ubucon prizes. [20:49] nhaines: You should come up to Portland for OSCON and help me setup a Ubuntu After Party [20:49] :D [20:49] * bkerensa is trying to get a boat [20:49] lol [20:50] boo, I forgot my presentation remote [20:50] nhaines: ;) There is a boat on the waterfront downtown for events so I'm trying to find out how much to rent it for a few hours and sort out getting someone to pay for that, drinks and catering [20:50] :D [20:50] pleia2: just use a Wii controller and Bluetooth! :D [20:50] nhaines: I'm in a hotel in philadelphia, I don't haz! [20:50] pleia2: D: [20:51] pleia2: if it were November you could pick up the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword collector's bundle and use the limited edition golden remote! [20:51] hehe [20:51] lol [20:51] That makes it a business writeoff right? [20:52] if I were paid or did this for a job, sure :) [20:52] alas! [20:52] details! [20:55] Fedex is here [20:55] :D [20:55] YAY [20:57] woo [20:57] Yay Kingston sent me a 32GB DataTraveler Locker+ [20:57] :D [20:58] * nhaines needs more free stuff. [20:58] * pleia2 gives nhaines free hugs [20:58] \o/ [20:59] ok, off to start wandering toward the suburbs for my first 11.10 talk [20:59] Good luck! You'll do great! :) [20:59] Also publish your slides for others to steal! ;) [20:59] what's the name of that python book talked about above? [20:59] nhaines: always! [20:59] * pleia2 heads out [21:00] http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Python-Professional-Magnus-Hetland/dp/1590599829/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318365856&sr=1-1 [21:00] gua: Beginning Python by Magnus Lie Hetland. ISBN: 978-1590599822 http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Python-Novice-Professional-Second/dp/1590599829/ [21:00] ahh thanks [21:00] nhaines: is it for people new to programming or new to python? [21:00] gua: both! :D [21:01] aha [21:01] nhaines: If you are ever in Portland I have lots of free stuff I often dont want [21:01] nhaines: I usually give it to friends [21:01] :P [21:01] * bkerensa gave a android tablet away a few weeks back [21:01] bkerensa: I'm pretty much never in Portland. :P [21:02] Aww, I could've used an Android tablet though. [21:02] Let the sponsors note! :P [21:02] bkerensa: if you get a free Amazon Kindle Fire let me know. :P [21:02] nhaines: It wont happen... Amazon and Apple have horrible PR along with Google and MS [21:02] :P [21:02] they wont send me so much as a pen [21:02] :P [21:03] Maybe try the cowboy [21:03] bkerensa: tell them the first step towards better PR is baby steps and also Kindles. [21:03] nhaines: :P [21:03] bkerensa, I think Garret still works there [21:03] Also I doubt Apple needs the PR and I'm sure MS loves sending free software to FOSS advocates! [21:04] nhaines: The problem is they do most of their PR internally.... While other companies I work with have PR firms who love to spoil me [21:04] :D [21:04] bkerensa: haha, that could be it! [21:04] I know that Microsoft can shower people with software when they want. [21:04] nhaines: Yeah at a CTL party Microsoft offered me free boxed MS Office, Shirts and other stuffs [21:05] and I declined [21:05] :D [21:05] showed them my Ubuntu lanyard [21:05] one rep was like what is that and the other muttered "Open source" [21:06] MarkDude: You know MS can hook up decent drinks though :) remember the CLS after party that Intel and MS sponsored [21:06] bkerensa: hahaha [21:06] Their $ does work well for drinks and food [21:08] should've looked confused asked if MS Office was some knockoff of LibreOffice [21:09] Ask them if they fixed ODF support yet. [21:09] http://fearthecowboy.com/ [21:10] Open Source and MS :D [21:11] i've been out of the loop for a little big, was the release of Oneiric pushed back? [21:11] i thought they were going for the 10th [21:11] gua: no, it's been the 13th since... well, before natty launched. :) [21:11] Ubuntu always releases on Thursdays. [21:11] ah oh ok. i guess i never looked up the date but assumed [21:12] At least for the last 14 releases. :) [21:12] can't break the tradition :) [21:12] 10.10 was a big deal, and in fact, the only exception (so for the last 13 releases). [21:12] But they did that for marketing (read: to be silly). [21:13] On the bright side, now we get releases in the middle of the month instead of at the end! [21:13] ah yeahh. i just remember people weren't so happy since some things were kinda broken [21:13] MarkDude: You know your going to make out like a bandit next year at OSCON? I will be saving some goodies for your arrival :D [21:13] gua: That's the last 14 releases too. :) [21:13] MarkDude: Oh and next year Ubuntu Oregon might have one of those XO laptops at our booth [21:13] nhaines: hah, well some more than others [21:14] heh that's kind of nice. actually releasing inside of month 04 and 10, instead of really close to the end and technically being within the month [21:14] The "Breaky Brokehog" release was not the finiest. [21:14] s/finiest/finest/ [21:14] still not sure what sabfdl was thinking with that name [21:14] You get great donations bkerensa [21:14] You need to do a session for the next Open Week [21:15] Share your knowledge [21:15] MarkDude: I dont have time :P [21:15] MarkDude: I'm epic behind right now [21:15] Yeah, that one hour of talking takes a good five hours of preparation. [21:15] (or at least beer) [21:15] LOL [21:19] This suit will be at OSCON next year bkerensa http://mairin.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/sxsw-expo-day-2/ [21:19] You can plan a few pics with it [21:22] Maybe see if you can get a beer donation- and make another Maddog special brew [21:23] Beer and Jon are great promotional tools for folks in PNW [21:23] Did you see the last one made for him? [21:24] Brother Maddogs Belgium beer or sumthin [21:24] MarkDude: I guess we better bring our A-Game at OSCON [21:24] :D [21:25] Well you will [21:25] * MarkDude still thinks there is room for TWO Ubuntu booths [21:25] Oregon as a host [21:25] and a Local Team in general booth, with info for joining wordwide, etc [21:26] O'Reilly has given ok for such a thing already, the past 2 years [21:35] MarkDude: You mean a Canonical booth? :P [21:36] Well Canonical does not generally have specifics on joining local teams [21:37] the whole Aubergine and Orange banner deal [21:38] http://akgraner.com/?p=1052 === jamalta_ is now known as jamalta === jamalta_ is now known as jamalta [23:24] OMG, this is horrible >> https://www.facebook.com/2share [23:25] FB sparkly gifs, great way to turn FB into myspace [23:25] rww you can help ruin fb if you wan to help [23:28] I just put a big sparkly heart on G's wall