[01:06] <dniMretsaM> anyone find the name for 12.04 a little strange?
[01:06] <dniMretsaM> first of all, it should have been Perky Penguin.
[01:07] <DarthFrog> Perhaps that was too obvious.
[01:07] <dniMretsaM> Pangolin is cool, but precise? It will sound a little odd saying "Lets boot up Precise and..."
[01:08] <DarthFrog> But pangolins are amazing beasts.
[01:08] <dniMretsaM> that is true
[01:10] <pangolin> DarthFrog: Why thank you :)
[01:10] <DarthFrog> :-)
[01:16] <dniMretsaM> lol
[02:45] <dockhorn> i recently upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and i'd like to upgrade to 11.04, but my upgrade managers don't show it...  any suggestions?
[02:45] <Lithos84> dockhorn: Try the command "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[02:46] <dockhorn> lithos84: huh, all that wanted to do was remove 3 packages
[02:47] <dockhorn> ran it again, again it says no packages to upgrade
[02:47] <well_laid_lawn> tried updating?
[02:52] <dockhorn> tried "update manager" and "kpackagekit" and neither of them sees an update
[02:57] <Lithos84> dockhorn: http://ur1.ca/5dnvh
[03:00] <dockhorn> tried that.  "No new release found."
[03:00] <dockhorn> is it possible that i got upgraded straight from 10.04 to 11.04?
[03:00] <dockhorn> i'm experiencing problems with my sound that i've read are common for people who upgraded to 10.10
[03:01] <dockhorn> (thank you, by the way - it's possible any of those suggestions could have solved my problem, though unfortunately they didn't)
[03:02] <Lithos84> dockhorn: To be sure of what version you have, type "lsb_release -a", but I don't think it is possible to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04.
[03:03] <dockhorn> um...  it says i have 11.04.
[03:05] <dockhorn> hm.  when i was upgrading, i inadvertently turned off the hub that the keyboard and mouse were connected through, so i couldn't click the popup dialogs.  i then rebooted and ran the update stuff again, thinking it would finish.  i guess it just went ahead and upgraded me further.
[03:05] <dockhorn> thanks, lithos84
[03:05] <Lithos84> dockhorn: You're welcome.
[03:06] <dockhorn> any chance you could try helping me with my issues with my sound and/or my video card?
[03:07] <Lithos84> dockhorn: I'm sorry, but I don't know a thing about it.
[03:07] <dockhorn> the sound issue is this: after the upgrade, everything sounds very very quiet.  i've turned up every sound slider on the control panels i could find, and in each application that makes noise, and things are still much quieter than they were before.  in fact, the sliders don't seem to have any discernable effect at all, or possibly only take effect on reboot
[03:07] <dockhorn> ok
[03:08] <dockhorn> maybe i'll ask on #ubuntu
[03:09] <Lithos84> dockhorn: Try this: Type "alsamixer", change the volume values and check.
[03:10] <dockhorn> holy santorum, that has controls that don't show up anywhere else and they actually do the trick!
[03:10] <dockhorn> thank you!
[03:10] <Lithos84> dockhorn: (^_^) You're welcome.
[03:15] <dockhorn> got any magic tricks for video cards that don't recognize the second monitor?  the DVI monitor works great, but the VGA one isn't getting any signal
[03:16] <Lithos84> dockhorn: I don't. Sorry.
[03:17] <thedanyes> lspci -v | grep Video
[03:17] <dockhorn> lithos84: you have fixed more than half of my problems tonight, much faster than i thought they would go
[03:17] <thedanyes> lspci -v | grep VGA
[03:17] <thedanyes> would be useful info to start
[03:18] <Lithos84> dockhorn: I'm glad I helped you.
[03:18] <dockhorn> thedanyes:         Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64
[03:18] <dockhorn> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4290] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[03:20] <thedanyes> ah okay.  which driver is it using?  if you do 'lspci -v | more' it should show as "Kernel driver in use:" under that device.
[03:21] <dockhorn>        Capabilities: <access denied>
[03:21] <dockhorn>         Kernel driver in use: radeon
[03:21] <dockhorn>         Kernel modules: radeon
[03:22] <thedanyes> That's the open source ATI driver I believe.
[03:22] <thedanyes> Is this a laptop or desktop?
[03:22] <dockhorn> it's a desktop
[03:22] <dockhorn> it's the video card on the motherboard
[03:23] <dockhorn> a friend of mine helped me build it.  he's good with these things, but more on the Windows end of things
[03:23] <thedanyes> Okay sure.  Honestly if using the display control panel for your desktop manager doesn't let you configure multi-monitor, I would try the proprietary AMD driver.
[03:24] <dockhorn> i think i tried that under 10.04, and maybe i did something wrong but it ended up screwing up the video so i couldn't see anything on either monitor if both were plugged in, and i couldn't get full resolution on the PCI monitor even if it was plugged in alone
[03:24] <dockhorn> it's probably still installed; i tried running some driver manager and it seemed to show that it was still sitting around, just not activated
[03:25] <thedanyes> Ah.  Well there can definitely be problems.  Just back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf first
[03:25] <thedanyes> so you can easily go back to the open-source driver
[03:25] <dockhorn> and if i revert that, everything is fixed?
[03:25] <thedanyes> I can't say for sure, but I would expect so.
[03:26] <thedanyes> The xorg.conf is usually where X looks to determine which driver to use.
[03:26] <dockhorn> wow, there's 13 versions of that file in there already
[03:26] <thedanyes> haha
[03:26] <dockhorn> is the most-recently-modified one likely the currently-loaded one?
[03:27] <dockhorn> it's named xorg.conf.failsafe
[03:27] <thedanyes> not sure.  if you started your OS in some kind of failsafe mode, it definitely could be.
[03:27] <dockhorn> oddly there isn't a version of it simply called "xorg.conf" - all the files with that substring have a .something or a ~ on them
[03:27] <thedanyes> but normally the only one that gets loaded is the one called xorg.conf
[03:28] <thedanyes> oh okay.  well X will boot without one.
[03:28] <thedanyes> It just guesses.
[03:28] <dockhorn> ahh
[03:28] <dockhorn> so...  start with .failsafe, .disabled, .fglrx-4, .original-2 or .backup?  =P
[03:28] <thedanyes> haha
[03:28] <dockhorn> sorry, that's .fglrx-5
[03:28] <thedanyes> fglrx is the proprietary driver
[03:29] <thedanyes> radeon is the open source one
[03:29] <dockhorn> time to fire up the file comparisons
[03:29] <thedanyes> if you look through those config files... yeah :)
[03:29] <thedanyes> or just grep radeon xorg.*
[03:29] <thedanyes> and grep fglrx xorg.conf
[03:30] <thedanyes> or xorg.* rather
[03:33] <dockhorn> radeon isn't in any of them
[03:33] <dockhorn> fglrx is in 11 of them
[03:33] <dockhorn> i think i'm gonna try the .fglrx-5 version
[03:34] <dockhorn> this involves a reboot, right?  or can i just restart the window manager?
[03:34] <dockhorn> it's a reboot, i imagine
[03:34] <thedanyes> ah well
[03:35] <thedanyes> if you already had fglrx installed... wm restart might work
[03:35] <thedanyes> otherwise it's definitely a reboot
[03:35] <thedanyes> here's the problem i encountered with nvidia -
[03:35] <thedanyes> I found it really hard to remove the open source nouveau driver
[03:36] <thedanyes> in order to let the proprietary nvidia driver work
[03:36] <thedanyes> so whenever the nvidia module would try to load, it wasn't able to attach to the hardware that nouveau had already claimed
[03:36] <dockhorn> hm
[03:36] <dockhorn> is there some other config file that loads before the xorg.conf?
[03:36] <thedanyes> well, there's the kernel
[03:36] <thedanyes> and it's drivers
[03:36] <dockhorn> (also, is it sufficient to softlink xorg.conf to the file i want to use?)
[03:37] <thedanyes> probably, given proper permissions settings
[03:37] <thedanyes> never tried it :)
[03:38] <thedanyes> you can always check the Xorg.0.log after startup though to see if it worked
[03:39] <thedanyes> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:39] <thedanyes> if your screen goes blank on startup, often you can just switch to another console
[03:39] <thedanyes> with ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 or something
[03:40] <dockhorn> interesting, Xorg.0.log says it's using xorg.conf.d
[03:41] <thedanyes> is there actually an xorg.conf.d folder under /etc somewhere?
[03:41] <dockhorn> in /usr/share/X11/
[03:41] <thedanyes> isn't that just man files?
[03:42] <dockhorn> looks like it's config files for wacom tablets
[03:42] <thedanyes> hmmm no you're right there are some configuration files there
[03:42] <dockhorn> wacky
[03:43] <dockhorn> here's an interesting part of the logfile:
[03:44] <dockhorn>     20.025]    compiled for 1.10.1, module version = 1.2.0
[03:44] <dockhorn> [    20.025]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0
[03:44] <dockhorn> [    20.025] (II) Loading extension DRI2
[03:44] <dockhorn> [    20.025] (==) Matched fglrx as autoconfigured driver 0
[03:44] <dockhorn> [    20.025] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 1
[03:44] <dockhorn> [    20.025] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2
[03:44] <FloodBotK2> dockhorn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:44] <FloodBotK1> dockhorn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:44] <thedanyes> afaict, /etc/X11/xorg.conf overrides everything else if it's present
[04:40] <virces> hi gan
[04:41] <virces> ko kubuntu saya g bisa muter musik kenapa y
[05:26] <GirlyGirl> strange thing either plasma or kwin don't work .... If I run "kwin --replace" my titlebar buttons and windows are responsive but plasma's UI is like a picture and does not do anything. If I run "kquitapp plasma-desktop" then "plasma-desktop" the reverse happens kwin stuff is unresponsive but plasma works!
[05:31] <GirlyGirl> Nevermind sorted
[06:17] <keithzg> Hmm, I'm trying to help someone remotely diagnose graphics issues on an HD 4350, what's the open source drivers package actually called these days? I always seem to have Intel or Nvidia so I'm a bit unsure.
[07:08] <eeanm> is qt5 packaged anywhere?
[07:54] <keithzg> Hah, stupid Jockey. "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system", yet it also shows the enabled driver is the current version of the NVIDIA driver.
[08:58] <Fleck> hello, i have strange thing... i installed ubuntu then kubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <Fleck> now sometimes i press alt + tab i see gnomes background, sometimes even icons :D
[08:59] <phoenix_firebrd> Do we need the power management service for a desktop pc?
[09:00] <well_laid_lawn> phoenix_firebrd: it's up to you - I clock down my cpu with the ondemand governor
[09:01] <phoenix_firebrd> well_laid_lawn: in your laptop or desktop?
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> desktop
[09:02] <phoenix_firebrd> well_laid_lawn: what is the need ?
[09:02] <well_laid_lawn> if I'm just editing or browsing there's no need for all the cpu imo
[09:02] <phoenix_firebrd> well_laid_lawn:  thats right
[09:02] <well_laid_lawn> phoenix_firebrd: but if I do something that needs power it clocks up
[09:03] <phoenix_firebrd> well_laid_lawn: so if i disable the power management service i wont be able to adjust the cpu clock?
[09:04] <well_laid_lawn> phoenix_firebrd: I'm not sure if the modules for it would be loaded
[09:04] <phoenix_firebrd> well_laid_lawn: what is the power management service is actually for?
[09:05] <Fleck> http://fleck.rullz.lv/kde/1.png << rectangle where ALT + TAB window was... :D sometimes it get stuck there, so i need to minimie/restore any window to clean screen!
[09:06] <Fleck> and sometimes i see even icons with names etc... ;(
[09:13] <well_laid_lawn> phoenix_firebrd: mostly it's for laptops but it's not limited to that
[09:14] <well_laid_lawn> Fleck: maybe try a different graphics driver
[09:14] <phoenix_firebrd> well_laid_lawn: ok, then i will disable the service, thank you
[09:14] <well_laid_lawn> np :)
[09:15] <Fleck> well_laid_lawn no!
[09:15] <well_laid_lawn> ok ;)
[09:15] <Fleck> before i reinstalled - i had clean kubuntu with the same driver - no problem! so its not driver! :)
[09:16] <well_laid_lawn> try with a new user - if it doesn't happen then it's your configs
[09:18] <Fleck> good idea! ill try that! :) thx
[09:18] <well_laid_lawn> luck :)
[10:34] <sancochito> saludos
[10:34] <sancochito> tengo instalado kde sobre ubuntu 11.04 ¿cómo puedo hacer para quitar el gestor metacity, basta sólo con sudo apt-get remove?
[10:36] <well_laid_lawn> !pt | sancochito
[10:50] <sancochito> I have instaled kde-desktop to check it on a ubuntu 11.04 build how can I do to uninstall gnome desktop?
[10:50] <well_laid_lawn> !purekde
[10:51] <sancochito> ok thanks
[11:10] <merlin1991> hey guys, the installer disk is giving me a headache, desktop-amd64 fails with initramfs no live system found and the alternate-amd64 fails right after detecting the keyboard, could not mount cd
[11:11] <merlin1991> any clues?
[11:11] <merlin1991> (I'm trying to install 11.04)
[11:13] <well_laid_lawn> !md5 | merlin1991
[11:13] <well_laid_lawn> and check the cd burn
[11:15] <stevellion> hello!
[11:16] <Drecondius> Good Morning
[11:16] <stevellion> Can anyone there help - since upgrading to kde 4.7, I can't get gwenview to display video thumbnails
[11:16] <merlin1991> well_laid_lawn: md5sum is fine but I can't run the md5 cd check from the installer menu
[11:17] <stevellion> was using backports, but now on oneiric 0 but still no good,
[11:17] <well_laid_lawn> why can't you do the cd check?
[11:17] <Drecondius> Would it be a good idea to reinstall since the installer crashed so to speak, or should i continue to run in this os as is and just do an update?
[11:18] <merlin1991> errors out with a similar error
[11:21] <merlin1991> running the md5sum on win now against the disk
[11:23] <merlin1991> well_laid_lawn: disk is completelly ok, what now?
[11:25] <well_laid_lawn> merlin1991: you could do a memory check
[11:26] <well_laid_lawn> the iniitram should be there - you could mount the cd and check...
[11:48] <Drecondius> Morning, how do I add a repository be it with or w/o gui
[11:50] <Drecondius> Morning, how do I add a repository be it with or w/o gui, anybody?
[11:50] <alvin> Drecondius: What repository?
[11:50] <Drecondius> I need to add the Wine repository for latest build.
[11:51] <Drecondius> Only way I can get World of Warcraft to run acceptably.
[11:51] <alvin> There's an undocumented command to make that easy: apt-add-repository. You can also create a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/wine.list and put your deb rule there.
[11:52] <Drecondius> or i can do like the smart ppl do and follow directions lol
[11:53] <Drecondius> gots a tutorial on winehq
[11:53] <Drecondius> i feel like a dope now
[11:54] <alvin> Don't. It's generally better to follow distribution guidelines, so asking here isn't extraordinary.
[11:54] <Drecondius> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa is the line to use apt
[11:55] <Drecondius> and it's for the 1.3 version
[11:55] <Drecondius> im coming from ubuntu, used to synaptic
[11:55] <Drecondius> hate unity, too much like windows 7 taskbar w/o the space lol
[11:56] <Drecondius> would adding synaptic break my system? or is it gnome specific?\
[11:56] <Drecondius> Sorry if I'm too chatty, burning coffee, orange juice, and a bad case of whatever I ate last night.
[11:59] <alvin> Synaptic is just a front-end for apt. It should break your system. It's actually pretty popular amongst Kubuntu users for some strange reason. We do tend to get different GUI package managers every 6 months, so maybe it's consistency? I do admit the new one (Muon?) looks quite nice, but I don't really care about those things. Knowing the command line tools (aptitude in my case) will aid you just fine. They're also consistent.
[11:59] <alvin> correction: it shouln't break your system (synaptic)
[12:00] <Drecondius> well kpackage manager has a similar frontend for using apt as well , rather, adding repos
[12:00] <Drecondius> so I'm good now :D
[12:01] <Drecondius> all I had to do was go to "Edit Origins"
[12:02] <Drecondius> and I'm still learning my way around apt as well so ....
[12:03] <Drecondius> I want a version of Ubuntu, with kde and wine pre installed
[12:03] <Drecondius> lol
[12:05] <Drecondius> how can i change my mouse pointer?
[12:06] <Drecondius> I do believe I am overlooking it somewhere.
[12:31] <ib-mobile__> I'm having problems with a failed install of the fglrx drivers. I installed them using the hardware drivers utility, but it failed just before completion and told me to look at the jockey.log file.  here's a link to the bottom of the log: http://paste.kde.org/132589/
[12:33] <ib-mobile__> right now, xwindows wont start. I know the fglrx drivers work on the system because I had it all running fine but had to reinstall everything using the alternate install disk so I could use lvm partitions
[12:33] <ib-mobile__> This is kubuntu 11.04 btw
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:12] <jmut> heeeeelp :) I want my volume fixed
[14:12] <jmut> ubuntu issue I guess. how do I tackle this. anyone with low volume problem?
[14:14] <Lithos84> jmut: Type "alsamixer", change volume values and test.
[14:15] <jmut> Lithos84: it's maxed out
[14:25] <BluesKaj> jmut, look in the ctrl box at the bottom , make sure there's no "M" , use the M key to unmute any ctrls
[14:25] <BluesKaj> in alsamixer
[14:26] <jmut> BluesKaj: it's not mute..it just low volume
[14:26] <jmut> BluesKaj: I google like other people have issue..but don't really find the solution
[14:29] <BluesKaj> jmut, have you tested the default settings in systemsettings>multimedia>phonon>device preference ?
[14:29] <jmut> BluesKaj: not sure where is that... I am mit kubuntu
[14:30] <jmut> BluesKaj: it's like i got to devices... on top is Internal Audio Analog Stereo...and second is HDA NVidia Digital stereo (HDMI)
[14:31] <jmut> BluesKaj: there is test button for both. but they sound the same way
[14:32] <jmut> BluesKaj: oh well thanks anyway. I will dig google I guess.
[14:32] <jmut> bye
[14:32] <BluesKaj> jmut, do you have your speaker connected directly to the sound card , if so use the anaolg setting , the hdmi is digital out to a DAC
[14:33] <BluesKaj> no patience ... some ppl are hopeless
[14:46] <george_burdell> I'm having a problem connecting to secured wireless networks
[14:46] <george_burdell> unsecured ones work fine
[14:57] <BluesKaj> anyway bbl
[15:14] <greywalk> hi. how do i create a password protected archive with ark?
[15:17] <greywalk>  hi. how do i create a password protected archive with ark?
[15:32] <pawan> release time is pst or gmt ?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> utc
[15:32] <BluesKaj> which is gmt , I think
[15:32] <genii-around> Yep
[15:33] <pawan> thanks
[15:34] <Pici> Its 'when its done' just like every release.
[15:42]  * genii-around contemplates midnight in the WST timezone
[15:42] <BluesKaj> interesting how the time zones are set up
[15:42] <BluesKaj> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Standard_time_zones_of_the_world.png
[15:42] <BluesKaj> pretty messy business, actually
[15:43] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I guess we have Sir Sandford Fleming to thank....
[15:43] <BluesKaj> yeah genii-around mongst others
[15:43] <BluesKaj> amongst
[15:45] <BluesKaj> he invented a good system , but various countries around the world took exception to the rules. Checkout the international dateline ...it's a bit of a joke ;0
[15:47] <susundberg> And what the fck is +5 3/4 :D
[15:48] <susundberg> I thought the daylight saving was bit of a mess, but ..
[15:52] <BluesKaj> newfoundland is on the half hour ...silly
[15:59] <mastershak3> Is there a way to shut off the KDE key thing when you connect to wireless everytime?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> mastershak3,  Run "kdewalletmanager" from terminal or Alt + F2 Open the configuration dialogue (Settings > Configure), and uncheck "Enable the KDE Wallet subsystem"
[16:13] <BluesKaj> BBL... more yard work :P
[16:19] <mastershak3> BluesKaj, thanks
[16:29] <Tweev> My web browsers keep on crashing and I can't determine the cause. Can someone help me please?
[16:33] <g0rs> Tweev: i also have the same problem .Epiphany and rekonq crash often
[16:37] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, I've got a couple of problems on my system, but I'm pretty sure they're related, also.
[16:52] <Tweev> My web browsers work fine when I am plugged into ethernet but it's when I'm on wireless that the crashes occur - Any ideas?
[16:55] <LINKSWORD2> Oh, come on. I see a lot of people in here, but nobody is helping....
[16:57] <genii-around> !details | LINKSWORD2
[16:57] <genii-around> Tweev: Is there some repeating errors about the wifi driver in result of: dmesg
[16:59] <kaddi> hi, i'm running 11.04 (upgraded last week) ever since then I have a screensaver automatically activate itself. Can someone tell me what package that is so I can uninstall it?
[16:59] <kaddi> it'll freeze my pc if I have firefox running flash open before it activates itself and I need to reboot it everytime that happens
[17:00] <Tweev> genii-around: doesn't seem to be - when I cause a crash (by just clicking around to websites) nothing new shows up on dmesg
[17:01] <LINKSWORD2> Alright. What's happening is that I have Dolphin (supposedly with 2 windows attached) stuck on my taskbar.
[17:01] <LINKSWORD2> When I right-click it to tell it to close, I get an error message from Plasma Desktop that says it has crashed.
[17:02] <LINKSWORD2> I'm running Kubuntu 11.04 with KDE 4.7.
[17:03] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: can you get a plasma stacktrace?
[17:03] <Tweev> *geni-around*: not sure if this is helpful but: type=1400 audit(1318437816.006:15): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1939 profile="/sbin/dhclient" name="/var/lib/wicd/dhclient.conf" pid=2040 comm="dhclient" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[17:04] <LINKSWORD2> yofel: What is a stacktrace, and how do I do that?
[17:05] <yofel> LINKSWORD2: when the window comes up that it has crashed, go to the "developer information" tab, install debugging symbols and reload
[17:05] <LINKSWORD2> Ok. Running that now.
[17:06] <LINKSWORD2> Whoa. Uh... weird.
[17:06] <LINKSWORD2> This time when I right-clicked it, it closed.
[17:07] <yofel> presentation effect ^^
[17:07] <LINKSWORD2> yofel: Excuse me? Please explain?
[17:08] <yofel> nah, I just mean that when you really want to reproduce a bug it usually works instead of failing ;)
[17:09] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[17:14] <genii-around> Tweev: There seems to be a similar problem described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1638747 , there is a link in posting #5 for an edit to the file /etc/apparmor.d/sbin.dhclient3 for a fix
[17:15] <Tweev> genii-around: Will give it a try - brb THANKS!
[17:22] <Tweev> genii-around - sorry Qassel crashed.  I did as yousuggested but that didn't seem to help
[17:23] <Tweev> although there wasn't a sbin.shclient3 - only an sbin.dhclinet (no 3)
[17:24] <LINKSWORD2> I've got another question. Launchers for Rekong or Dolphin seem to be attached to the taskbar every time I log in, but they come back the next time, even after I removed them.
[17:41] <aftertaf> for anyone bugging out on updates to 11.10, run this way :)
[17:41] <aftertaf> kdesudo 'update-manager -d'
[17:41] <Girly-Girl> aftertaf: is it out in release manager?
[17:42] <aftertaf> not yet,
[17:42] <aftertaf> but even once its out, if update manager crashes on you, run it that way if yuou're in kde like me
[17:43] <Girly-Girl> aftertaf: I'm already on oneric pre release final iso
[17:43] <aftertaf> fair 'nuff.
[17:44] <aftertaf> but anyone with issues running it from KDE can try what I posted - just worked for me
[17:45] <alex5772> hi
[17:46] <alex5772> i have an Icon on desktop i am trying to drag it to the panel bellow to have a shortcut thre,but it wont go,it seems the panel is above the desktop
[17:46] <alex5772> ?
[17:47] <aftertaf> right click on your panel, and add a launcher for your app.
[17:47] <aftertaf> and make sure your plasmoids are unlocked
[17:47] <aftertaf> to be sure ;)
[17:47] <Girly-Girl> alex5772: kde version?
[17:48] <alex5772> Girly-Girl:whatever comes with latest kubuntu 11.04
[17:48] <erek_> hi here :)
[17:49] <alex5772> aftertaf:where do i find the launcher in Widgets?
[17:49] <Tweev> alex5772: unlock widgets and activate panel settings, then you can drag the icon to the panel
[17:49] <alex5772> Tweev:where do i do that?
[17:51] <Tweev> alex5772: right click on the desktop and click 'unlock widget's; 2) go to panel and right click and choose panel settings/options, then you should be able to move the icon onto the panel
[17:51] <alex5772> Tweev:widgets are unlocked,still cant drag,it goes under the panel,on the desktop
[17:51] <aftertaf> you need to enable the options of the panel also, like said above
[17:52] <Tweev> alex5772: when you hover your mouse over the icon a darker box on it's side will appear, grab it from there to move it
[17:54] <aftertaf> ahh, thats the trick : i tried and failed too.....
[17:55] <alex5772> Tweev:oh yea,the darker box,now it worked
[17:55] <Tweev> alex5772: great! I'm glad I could help
[17:56] <alex5772> tweev:seriously,thats pretty non intuitive,i mean its easier to configure iptables on command line ;-)
[17:56] <alex5772> now how do i have a list of tasks running on the panel,similar to Win/Mac?
[17:56] <Tweev> alex5772: I guess, it's just kind of a strange interface, once you get used to the syntax it makes sense
[17:57] <Tweev> alex5772: do you mean things running in the background or minimized windows?
[17:57] <alex5772> tweev:i know,last time i used KDE was in 3.0 days,then it been command line only
[18:00] <kaddi> hi, i'm running 11.04 (upgraded last week) ever since then I have a screensaver automatically activate itself. Can someone tell me what package that is so I can uninstall it?
[18:02] <Tweev> kaddi: can't you just go to your screen saver options and disable them?
[18:04] <kaddi> i'd really rather have it gone.. that thing is nothing but trouble for me
[18:05] <Schorchi> #vdr
[18:06] <Tweev> kaddi: can you go to kpackage and search for screensaver and remove packages?
[18:10] <kaddi> if i try to remove kscreensaver it wants to remove kde-artwork too
[18:12] <Tweev> kaddi: Hmmm... I'm not sure then, sorry!
[18:13] <kaddi> bleh, i'll just remove it and hope it'll stop kicking me out of my own laptop, lol
[18:33] <alex5772> how do i install w32codecs?
[19:01] <Daskreech> kaddi: kde-artwork is a virtual package
[19:01] <kaddi> oh
[19:03] <kaddi> so i can just uninstall it with no effects?
[19:12] <nickolas_> i am having trobles with ugly plymouth using nvidia drivers
[19:12] <nickolas_> i use jockey to install the latest drivers from x-swat
[19:12] <nickolas_> then i use a script called "fixplymouth-natty" to fix plymouth and grub screens
[19:13] <nickolas_> problem is, it eventually stops booting, hanging at the Kubuntu screen with five white dots
[19:13] <nickolas_> 	i'm using 11.04
[19:57] <forgeaus> is Xsan from apple a different filesystem as opposed to EXT/HFS/NTFS/FAT/etc? or something else? if it is can kubuntu mount Xsan?
[20:01] <arek> witam jest ktos moze z PL??
[20:02] <genii-around> !pl
[20:05] <arek> witam
[20:11] <Matisse> Hello! My Kubuntu mounts unexpected different in different situations and I dont see the reason. Can somebody help me with renewing the settings from scratch?
[20:12] <well_laid_lawn> err mounts what?
[20:12] <Matisse> The current problem is: dolphin mounts USB drives with usergroup(?) root and so I'm not allowed to write
[20:13] <Matisse> theres another problem during boot, but thats not so important
[20:14] <36DAAHLMB> Matisse, is it a linux filesystem on the USB?
[20:14] <Matisse> 36DAAHLMB, no, its fat
[20:15] <Matisse> sudo ls -l -> drwxr-xr-x 19 user root ... USB drive
[20:17] <Matisse> to be correct: it's mounted read-only...
[20:18] <Matisse> but why?
[20:28] <Matisse> ok... damn read-only switch...
[20:47] <arek> witam jest ktos z pl??
[20:49] <genii-around> arek: /j #ubuntu-pl Do pomocy w polskim kanału
[21:00] <jmichaelx> how are things going for kubuntu oneiric users?
[21:01] <yofel> jmichaelx: rather fine, I'm not using kmail though
[21:04] <jmichaelx> yofel: i am not a kmail user, but is kmail having issues?
[21:04] <jmichaelx> (in oneiric)
[21:05] <yofel> uh... where do I start... let's just say that akonadi isn't working as well as it's supposed to do
[21:08] <jmichaelx> yofel: some things never change :-D
[21:09] <jmichaelx> there is a goodly list (imo) of kde components that do not work as well as they are supposed to
[21:13] <BarkingFish> I'll back you up on the akonadi thing, yofel - many is the time I switch on and akonadi has aborted like 12 or 13 times before I've even got started
[21:15] <jmichaelx> i'm sure that akonadi and nepomuk can do amazing things, it's just that i have not been able to see anything amazing in them yet
[22:36] <tzi> hola
[23:11] <tanzy> hello people
[23:31] <antlarr> hi
[23:32] <antlarr> anybody knows why, even if I added the kubuntu-ppa repository, I still can't see kde 4.7.2 in apt, but only 4.6.5 ?
[23:32] <antlarr> if I browse the repository I added, I can see there are 4.7.2 packages there!
[23:33] <BarkingFish> antlarr, what version of kubuntu are you running?
[23:33] <antlarr> natty
[23:34] <antlarr> are those packages only for 11.10 ?
[23:34] <BarkingFish> if you open kpackagekit and click on the software updates logo on the left, does it show updates for KDE?
[23:34] <BarkingFish> antlarr, not by any means. I'm in 11.04 and running KDE 4.7.1
[23:35] <antlarr> yes, but the updates are from 4.6.2 (that I'm using) to 4.6.5
[23:36] <BarkingFish> right, i think you may have a multistep process on your hands
[23:36] <antlarr> really?
[23:36] <antlarr> I have to update to 4.6.5 first ?
[23:36] <BarkingFish> Upgrade to 4.6.5, then you might get offered upgrades to the next level, I don't think you can go straight from 4.6.2 to 4.7.x?
[23:36] <antlarr> strange... but ok, I'll try