| silverlightning | however i have no sound | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| silverlightning | on system at all? | 00:00 |
| silverlightning | I have been in alsamixer and all parameters are on top | 00:00 |
| silverlightning | some are 00 some are MM | 00:00 |
| silverlightning | ? | 00:00 |
| silverlightning | this is a newly installed 11.10 | 00:00 |
| silverlightning | today | 00:00 |
| KM0201 | hmm | 00:02 |
| silverlightning | I could make a picture | 00:02 |
| KM0201 | you can try adjusting all the volume meters up on alsamixer | 00:02 |
| KM0201 | see if that helps | 00:02 |
| KM0201 | if that doesn't help, find your sound device by typing lspci in a terminal | 00:03 |
| silverlightning | http://imagebin.org/178584 | 00:03 |
| silverlightning | all parameters are up in alsamixer | 00:03 |
| silverlightning | I mean meters | 00:03 |
| KM0201 | ok | 00:04 |
| KM0201 | lspci | 00:04 |
| silverlightning | http://imagebin.org/178585 | 00:05 |
| silverlightning | not sure if that made any sense ? | 00:06 |
| KM0201 | ok | 00:06 |
| KM0201 | sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol | 00:07 |
| silverlightning | in buntus it usually has worked by default, with simple alsamixer adjusting | 00:08 |
| KM0201 | well, all i can tell you, is my problem is resolved w/ pulseaudio (have the same problem when i first install) | 00:09 |
| silverlightning | maybe I need a restart? | 00:11 |
| KM0201 | after you install pulseaudio you will, but.. you an try restarting and see if that fixes it before installing pulseaudio (but i wouldn't get your hopes up) | 00:11 |
| silverlightning | hmm | 00:13 |
| silverlightning | is this a bug thing+ | 00:13 |
| silverlightning | ? | 00:13 |
| silverlightning | brb reboot | 00:13 |
| KM0201 | no | 00:14 |
| silverlightning | no? | 00:14 |
| silverlightning | oh yes | 00:14 |
| KM0201 | pulse audio apparently isn't installed by default w/ lubuntu (in favor of alsamixer) | 00:14 |
| silverlightning | maybe just audio card issues | 00:14 |
| KM0201 | you can reboot, but its not a bug. | 00:15 |
| KM0201 | just reboot, and when that doesn't fix the problem, install pulseaudio | 00:15 |
| silverlightning | alsamixer has always worked though | 00:15 |
| KM0201 | well, you are using the beta,.. | 00:15 |
| silverlightning | no sound | 00:23 |
| silverlightning | I think trouble is the MM | 00:23 |
| Ibis | How can I install Ubuntu software center in Lubuntu? | 00:23 |
| silverlightning | I usually have most of them on 00 | 00:23 |
| Ibis | And I have a friend who is having issues using WIFI in Medion Laptop -.- | 00:23 |
| silverlightning | ibis, package manager is not enough? | 00:24 |
| KM0201 | Ibis: its in synaptic.. search for "software center".. i think its called "ubuntusoftwarecenter" not sure though | 00:24 |
| silverlightning | no sound at all | 00:24 |
| Ibis | silverlightning: It's not for me, It's to "easy-mode" some things for a linux newbie. | 00:24 |
| silverlightning | oh, sound is on | 00:24 |
| silverlightning | !! | 00:24 |
| Ibis | I prefer installing things with apt-get. | 00:24 |
| KM0201 | Ibis: sudo apt-get install software-center i just checked, its there | 00:24 |
| silverlightning | well, terminal works | 00:25 |
| Ibis | Sweet KM0201. | 00:25 |
| KM0201 | Ibis: my point was, use synaptic to find the package.. it's a lot easier to search w/ synaptic, than apt | 00:25 |
| Ibis | Okay. | 00:25 |
| Ibis | Gawd, this is really dumb for me to mention anything of my friend's issue. It's basically an "IT DONT WORK" sorta thing -.- Which isn't helping. | 00:26 |
| KM0201 | whats wrong? | 00:27 |
| Ibis | He for some reason can not get onto the internet with his laptop. Via, wifi. | 00:27 |
| KM0201 | whats his wifi device? | 00:28 |
| KM0201 | i'm gonna guess broadcom or ralink | 00:28 |
| Ibis | That's what I'm trying to get out of him, but he logged off. | 00:28 |
| Ibis | He's all frustrated with no internet. | 00:28 |
| KM0201 | i can imagine, but just saying "it won't work" wont' help | 00:29 |
| silverlightning | broadcom needs activation of additional drivers, | 00:29 |
| silverlightning | at least often | 00:29 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: sometimes | 00:29 |
| silverlightning | and reboot lol | 00:29 |
| Ibis | He doesn't even know his computer module. | 00:29 |
| Ibis | Model. | 00:29 |
| silverlightning | ralink usually work straight away | 00:30 |
| Ibis | Only that it says Medion. | 00:30 |
| KM0201 | well, just tell hin to type lspci in a terminal, find the wireless line, and tell us what it says | 00:30 |
| silverlightning | should be a sticker under? | 00:30 |
| silverlightning | or something written some where | 00:30 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: depends, some ralinks work fine, others, are a pain. | 00:30 |
| silverlightning | I see | 00:30 |
| silverlightning | I might have been lucky then | 00:30 |
| silverlightning | though I have a usb dongle not working at all, have no idea what chip is | 00:31 |
| Ibis | I asked for that, I get no good feedback. | 00:31 |
| KM0201 | then don't worry about it.. you can't help him if he won't help you | 00:31 |
| silverlightning | after hours of driver search, I went out and bought a new wireless | 00:31 |
| silverlightning | much easier | 00:31 |
| Ibis | Oh well, too bad, now he's going back to windows. At least one other friend is staying on linux. | 00:32 |
| silverlightning | lol | 00:33 |
| silverlightning | buntus happily exist alongside windows | 00:33 |
| silverlightning | often at least | 00:33 |
| silverlightning | there are some incompatibilities popping up now and then | 00:35 |
| === M0hi is now known as IamNotThatGuy | ||
| wxl | why do links get highlighted in lxterminal but they're not clickable or rather they can be clicked but nothing happens? | 01:09 |
| silverlightning | oh have you marked off and pressed tab? | 01:10 |
| wxl | hah say what? :D | 01:10 |
| silverlightning | that one is stricky until you figure it out | 01:10 |
| silverlightning | but really very simple | 01:11 |
| Ibis | I know right!? I've actually tried to click, nothing ever happens. | 01:11 |
| silverlightning | mark of with mouse | 01:11 |
| silverlightning | then press tab | 01:11 |
| wxl | so mouse-over you mean silverlightning ? | 01:11 |
| silverlightning | the arrow key up in left corner | 01:11 |
| wxl | wtf | 01:12 |
| wxl | what arrow key? :D | 01:12 |
| wxl | OH | 01:12 |
| silverlightning | yes, just highlight the "OK" or "accept" or what ever, then tab | 01:12 |
| wxl | wait i think i get it now | 01:12 |
| silverlightning | old fashion tab | 01:12 |
| wxl | nope don't get it | 01:12 |
| wxl | i'm dumb | 01:12 |
| wxl | pisses me off tho | 01:12 |
| silverlightning | http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/o/om/omironia/394281_tab_key.jpg | 01:12 |
| wxl | if only i could click on that :D | 01:13 |
| silverlightning | very simple | 01:13 |
| silverlightning | what? | 01:13 |
| silverlightning | you know what tab is? | 01:13 |
| wxl | uh | 01:13 |
| wxl | yes | 01:13 |
| wxl | so that doesn't really work | 01:14 |
| silverlightning | it is a key (one single) with two arrows pointing in two directions | 01:14 |
| wxl | i know what the tab key is silly | 01:14 |
| silverlightning | lol | 01:14 |
| silverlightning | sorry | 01:14 |
| wxl | but i don't have a clue what that has to do with hyperlinks | 01:14 |
| silverlightning | hey, what are you doing in terminal? | 01:14 |
| wxl | ssh'ing to a server and running bitlbee+irssi in it | 01:15 |
| silverlightning | hmm | 01:15 |
| silverlightning | nothing regular works? | 01:15 |
| wxl | well if by regular you mean click on the link, no | 01:15 |
| silverlightning | not tab, not enter, not y? | 01:15 |
| wxl | ok let's say you want me to go to http://google.com | 01:16 |
| wxl | i mouse over it | 01:16 |
| wxl | it gets highlighted | 01:16 |
| wxl | i get the little finder pointer | 01:16 |
| wxl | i click | 01:16 |
| wxl | nothing | 01:16 |
| silverlightning | hmm | 01:16 |
| silverlightning | can you middle click? | 01:16 |
| wxl | hm not so easily with a touchpad | 01:17 |
| silverlightning | of not double click | 01:17 |
| silverlightning | you know, right and left click at ones | 01:17 |
| wxl | right opens context menu | 01:17 |
| silverlightning | old terminals had to be maneuvered like that | 01:17 |
| wxl | left does nothing | 01:17 |
| silverlightning | hmm | 01:17 |
| silverlightning | but both at the same time | 01:18 |
| wxl | don't have a middle | 01:18 |
| silverlightning | right AND left | 01:18 |
| wxl | hmmmmm not sure that will be super easy because i touch-click to right click | 01:18 |
| wxl | yeah i can't imagine how to do that | 01:18 |
| silverlightning | highlight, then press two mousepad buttons simultaneously | 01:19 |
| wxl | ii only have one button | 01:19 |
| wxl | i touch-click to right click | 01:19 |
| silverlightning | I see | 01:19 |
| silverlightning | hm | 01:19 |
| wxl | ah ha | 01:20 |
| wxl | got it | 01:20 |
| wxl | ctrl-left click | 01:20 |
| silverlightning | stuck in terminal | 01:20 |
| wxl | should have known | 01:20 |
| wxl | thank god | 01:20 |
| silverlightning | lol | 01:20 |
| silverlightning | you really have to get inventive when you are on alternative hardware | 01:21 |
| silverlightning | there's usually a way about it | 01:21 |
| wxl | NO SHIT <:D | 01:21 |
| silverlightning | ; ) | 01:21 |
| wxl | well what's funny is it's not half as bad as when, a good decade or so ago, i tried to get slackware on a thinkpad | 01:21 |
| wxl | back then only the brave and stupid bothered with linux and laptops from what i could gather :O | 01:22 |
| wxl | frankly i'm pretty darn happy with the way my powerbook is running ocelot | 01:22 |
| silverlightning | I am rather happy with the latest 11.10 issue | 01:22 |
| silverlightning | last friday's was a mess | 01:23 |
| silverlightning | or maybe my install | 01:23 |
| wxl | for whatever reason natty was funky. very very very very very slow. | 01:23 |
| wxl | possibly | 01:23 |
| silverlightning | I think it was a but, I read others had the same issues, in crash reports | 01:23 |
| wxl | my iso is pretty old (30 sept i think) | 01:23 |
| silverlightning | a bug* | 01:23 |
| wxl | but now it's all updated and upgraded and everything | 01:23 |
| wxl | seems to me that the installer is where the real issues are | 01:24 |
| silverlightning | very slow, then something is woring | 01:24 |
| silverlightning | like driver, or hard ware issues | 01:24 |
| wxl | i still would like to figure out some sort of flash solution but that's a ppc problem, not lubuntu | 01:24 |
| wxl | yeah, i think it was processor scaling | 01:24 |
| wxl | first it ran really hot and i managed to calm it down, but i think that just made it all draggy | 01:24 |
| wxl | out of the box, ocelot is perfect | 01:25 |
| wxl | what were your problems? | 01:26 |
| silverlightning | do you have firefox | 01:26 |
| silverlightning | ? | 01:26 |
| wxl | yep | 01:26 |
| silverlightning | it has a great addon, flash replacer | 01:26 |
| silverlightning | or flash video replacer | 01:26 |
| wxl | currently on 7.0.1 | 01:26 |
| wxl | oh? | 01:27 |
| silverlightning | plays youtube, and some flash streams, | 01:27 |
| silverlightning | and no adobe flash | 01:27 |
| silverlightning | and then there's html5 | 01:27 |
| wxl | i'm using gnash right now | 01:27 |
| silverlightning | I mean as alternative to flash | 01:27 |
| silverlightning | gnash works fine? | 01:27 |
| wxl | it's .. um .. well .. somewhat functional | 01:27 |
| wxl | i wonder if i can get compiz going on this bad boy :D | 01:28 |
| wxl | (kind of kidding.. it's antithetical to the very purpose of having lubuntu) | 01:29 |
| silverlightning | you might | 01:29 |
| wxl | what do you use for email? | 01:30 |
| silverlightning | so far only pidgin | 01:30 |
| silverlightning | or direct in browser | 01:30 |
| wxl | i have too many email accounts for that | 01:31 |
| silverlightning | I haven't configed anything yet | 01:31 |
| silverlightning | I installed 11.10 today | 01:31 |
| wxl | i'm tempted to just run thunderbird but the thought of something more lightweight is attractive | 01:31 |
| silverlightning | had major issues with mplayer gecko | 01:31 |
| silverlightning | and tured out to be a silly setting | 01:31 |
| silverlightning | like hours of fuzz | 01:31 |
| silverlightning | very true | 01:32 |
| silverlightning | default is sylfeed | 01:32 |
| silverlightning | some like it a lot | 01:32 |
| wxl | i spent DAYS trying to get that installer going because it was trying to download from "mirror" instead of "ports.ubuntu.com" | 01:33 |
| wxl | eventually figured out doing a little creative editing in /etc/hosts could clean it up | 01:33 |
| wxl | as for sylpheed, it seems tolerable but it doesn't have like a unified inbox if you know what i mea | 01:34 |
| wxl | +n | 01:34 |
| silverlightning | hmm, not sure | 01:34 |
| silverlightning | seamonkey might have an email client | 01:37 |
| silverlightning | if I remember correctly | 01:38 |
| wxl | yeah it does | 01:38 |
| wxl | basically thunderbird more or less | 01:38 |
| wxl | hahahahah | 01:40 |
| silverlightning | I see | 01:40 |
| silverlightning | claws? | 01:40 |
| wxl | apparently it's the same as claws mail | 01:40 |
| wxl | it has the same "about" at least :D | 01:40 |
| wxl | http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/General_Information#What_are_the_differences_between_Claws_Mail_and_Sylpheed.3F | 01:41 |
| silverlightning | I find what we like depends very much on habit | 01:42 |
| wxl | yep | 01:42 |
| silverlightning | just give it a go for three weeks and your can happily live with it | 01:42 |
| silverlightning | wonder what opera has | 01:42 |
| wxl | yeah i think you're right | 01:42 |
| wxl | i'll just set it up and see where i get annoyed | 01:42 |
| wxl | or rather if | 01:43 |
| silverlightning | thought, it is worth trying different stuff | 01:43 |
| wxl | i might end up using thunderbird+muttator just because i like the vim-ish keybindings | 01:45 |
| silverlightning | one thing missing in sylpheed, it doesn't have spell check I think unless it has been added lately | 01:46 |
| silverlightning | there use to be something called pine | 01:46 |
| silverlightning | or alpine | 01:46 |
| silverlightning | hmm | 01:46 |
| wxl | doesn't bother me none | 01:46 |
| wxl | yeah it's particularly frustrating to deal with when moving messages to folders in gmail imap | 01:46 |
| silverlightning | thunderbird isn't bad, as long as you don't get lag on your pad | 01:48 |
| silverlightning | I am a bit slow to use new functions, and sort of need sometime to figure out how to go about stuff | 01:49 |
| silverlightning | I was hoping there was skype in pidgin, but doesn't look like it | 01:50 |
| wxl | yeah nope | 01:50 |
| wxl | skype sucks | 01:50 |
| wxl | if you don't care about communicating specifically through skype, there are some nice voip apps | 01:51 |
| silverlightning | voip? | 01:54 |
| wxl | voice over internet protocol | 01:54 |
| silverlightning | I mostly on skype because some I know are | 01:55 |
| wxl | yeah just have them switch :D | 01:55 |
| wxl | (i know that doesn't work) | 01:55 |
| silverlightning | lol | 01:55 |
| silverlightning | needs a workaround | 01:55 |
| silverlightning | I figuring how to apt-get youtube dl | 01:56 |
| silverlightning | I use to have it | 01:56 |
| silverlightning | but it's not in package manager | 01:56 |
| wxl | do u just use skype for chat? | 01:57 |
| wxl | like not voice? | 01:57 |
| silverlightning | yes, mostly chat | 01:58 |
| silverlightning | voice has happened | 01:58 |
| wxl | i think there's skype support in bitlbee now but that's a whole different ball of way | 01:59 |
| wxl | wax | 01:59 |
| silverlightning | I see | 01:59 |
| silverlightning | I usually end up with something | 02:00 |
| silverlightning | either msn or skype | 02:00 |
| silverlightning | would be nice to have everything in pigin | 02:00 |
| wxl | agreed | 02:00 |
| wxl | that's why i like bitlbee | 02:00 |
| silverlightning | I think skype would have been added to pidgin if they allowed it | 02:00 |
| wxl | but instead of being irc in im it's im in irc | 02:01 |
| * silverlightning googeling bitlbee | 02:01 | |
| wxl | i love it but i'll warn you-- i'm very comfortable with the command line and living in text mode | 02:01 |
| silverlightning | terminal horror | 02:02 |
| silverlightning | lol | 02:02 |
| wxl | heh | 02:02 |
| silverlightning | I am no good with terminal | 02:02 |
| wxl | i ran finch (the ncurses version of pidgin) for a good long while | 02:02 |
| silverlightning | I find a guide some where; copy, paste, see what happens | 02:03 |
| wxl | what' nice about it especially in im is i can have it running on an always-on server and use tmux (like screen if you know what that is) to always be on even when afk and not use resources on it | 02:03 |
| wxl | careful with that or you'll end up with a frankenmachine | 02:03 |
| silverlightning | I often do | 02:04 |
| wxl | heheheh | 02:04 |
| silverlightning | a new install is sometimes only remedy | 02:04 |
| silverlightning | they often last until next issue though | 02:04 |
| silverlightning | I'm not that difficult with my os really | 02:05 |
| silverlightning | however I do install a lot of junk to get medias to work, like streams, tv, restricted | 02:05 |
| silverlightning | I still haven't checked if DVD works | 02:06 |
| wxl | python is runniing all super hot all of a sudden | 02:08 |
| wxl | weird | 02:08 |
| silverlightning | you need a parcel tongue | 02:09 |
| wxl | hah | 02:09 |
| silverlightning | there is that guy | 02:10 |
| silverlightning | I'm off to bed | 02:11 |
| wxl | night man | 02:11 |
| wxl | be well | 02:11 |
| silverlightning | see you anther day ; ) | 02:11 |
| silverlightning | you too | 02:12 |
| silverlightning | I shall deal with DVD tomorrow | 02:12 |
| KM0201 | what's wrong w/ DVD? | 02:13 |
| silverlightning | ok, testing one | 02:16 |
| silverlightning | my head is mush | 02:16 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: gnome reluctently reads | 02:18 |
| silverlightning | never finishes loading | 02:18 |
| KM0201 | did you install libdvdcss? | 02:18 |
| silverlightning | oh, and it works | 02:18 |
| silverlightning | !! | 02:18 |
| silverlightning | must hve | 02:18 |
| silverlightning | even menus work | 02:19 |
| silverlightning | must have been the medibuntu stuff | 02:19 |
| PsyCl0ne | Hi all | 04:17 |
| PsyCl0ne | Guys I have a netbook (Acer D02553). Last week I got Lubuntu installed on it, also installed the restricted extras so I could watch youtube videos but now I can not adjust my volume... If I click the speaker icon in my task bar it says that no audio devices were found or that there are dependancies missing from gstreamer. But if I sudo apt-get check GStreamer it checks out. what am I doing wrong?? | 04:18 |
| M0hi | Hi PsyCl0ne | 04:18 |
| PsyCl0ne | Sorry M0hi | 04:18 |
| M0hi | Lubuntu 11.10 ? | 04:19 |
| Unit193 | Check alsamixer too | 04:20 |
| bodhizazen | does your flash video have it's own volume control ? | 04:22 |
| PsyCl0ne | Sorry Im at work atm... Vidoes do have volume if I connect external speakers | 04:25 |
| PsyCl0ne | and alsa mixer? and correct this is the latest Lubuntu | 04:25 |
| PsyCl0ne | alasmixer does see my sound card and I can adjust volume from in there | 04:27 |
| PsyCl0ne | Although, how would I get that widget working again? | 04:28 |
| PsyCl0ne | Actually scrap that I previously had sound, now I have none at all | 04:29 |
| PsyCl0ne | If anyone is still here is there a possibility that the flash installer could have uninstalled something that is needed for Lubuntu sound? | 04:31 |
| bodhizazen | I doubt it PsyCl0ne | 04:33 |
| bodhizazen | I am not familiar enough with the apps lubuntu uses | 04:33 |
| bodhizazen | but flash is a single lib | 04:33 |
| PsyCl0ne | Well its more the restricted extras | 04:34 |
| bodhizazen | /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so | 04:34 |
| PsyCl0ne | I dont know what thats supposed to be exactly... | 04:35 |
| PsyCl0ne | Im still kind of new to linux... | 04:36 |
| wxl | https://www.xkcd.com/963/ | 04:58 |
| PsyCl0ne | hey guys if I run sudo /sbin/alsa reload I get this output http://pastebin.com/1JU5Euw5 what have I dont to my system lol | 05:11 |
| munikar | hi, when will Lubuntu 11.10 will be officially released? i heard 9 october but no so | 05:16 |
| munikar | ? | 05:18 |
| munikar | what is the MININUM ram requirement of lubuntu? will it run smoothly in 256 Mb RAM? | 05:21 |
| Unit193 | PsyCl0ne: You said it had problems detecting your device, what does sudo aplay -l output? That's a terminal command | 05:25 |
| Unit193 | munikar: It will be out the 13th | 05:25 |
| munikar | that means tomorrow! can't wait to install it | 05:25 |
| munikar | by the way, will it run smoothly in 256 Mb RAM? | 05:26 |
| Unit193 | Depends on how much swap and CPU | 05:26 |
| munikar | i have a intel motherboard and 2.4 GHz processor | 05:27 |
| munikar | what's "swap"? | 05:27 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | swap memory on hard disk | 05:27 |
| Unit193 | I would think it'd work in that case | 05:27 |
| munikar | how to create swap memory? can u tell me in brief? | 05:28 |
| Unit193 | It's done during the install | 05:28 |
| munikar | during install by CD or by HD? | 05:29 |
| Unit193 | If you're on Lubuntu now, you should already have swap | 05:30 |
| munikar | no, i'm using win xp. just decided to change into Lubuntu. (Other distros won't work, not even xubuntu) | 05:31 |
| Unit193 | When you install Lubuntu, the installer will make it for you | 05:31 |
| munikar | can we change the size of that swap file? | 05:32 |
| Unit193 | You could. Are you going ro keep XP too? | 05:33 |
| munikar | nah............never | 05:33 |
| munikar | its goodbye to windows from me forever :) | 05:34 |
| Unit193 | Great! If you happen to mess up, nothing wrong :D | 05:34 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | munikar: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=669059&seqNum=2 lubuntu similar | 05:36 |
| Unit193 | Heh, 2007 :P | 05:37 |
| munikar | Unit193: it's about ubuntu, is lubuntu the same way too? | 05:38 |
| Unit193 | munikar: As JohnDoe_71Rus said, only a few things have changed in the installer | 05:38 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | yes. just ansver installer | 05:39 |
| Unit193 | Ubuntu and Lubuntu use the exact same installer | 05:39 |
| munikar | ok :) | 05:39 |
| munikar | isn't there an alternative installer for Lubuntu? :( | 05:52 |
| Unit193 | There will be if you wait a few days :P | 05:52 |
| munikar | there ain't for Lubuntu 11.04 as fas as i know | 05:53 |
| PsyCl0ne | Would anyone happen to still be around this early in the morning? | 08:12 |
| systemclient | Can I publish a virtual appliance that I made with lubuntu publicly? | 13:54 |
| KM0201 | i don't see why not | 13:58 |
| systemclient | KM0201: I was wondering about the Ubuntu brand maybe | 14:18 |
| systemclient | other than that, everythign should be free, as I see it | 14:18 |
| KM0201 | what do you mean?.. | 14:18 |
| KM0201 | oh yeah, exactly | 14:18 |
| KM0201 | the ubuntu brand--- that could be an issue. | 14:18 |
| systemclient | that is why I am asking | 14:18 |
| KM0201 | but.. it shouldn't be an issue to just share a lubuntu virtual appliance | 14:18 |
| systemclient | I mean I did change the standard package selection … but it is all out of the ubuntu repo | 14:19 |
| KM0201 | look at how many people rewrite Ubuntu into their own little distro. | 14:19 |
| KM0201 | it shouldn't be an issue.. think about it, that's how Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, FluxBuntu, etc.. all came about. | 14:19 |
| systemclient | right, but they have different names, technically | 14:49 |
| andantino | anyone tried out 11.10 yet | 15:03 |
| M-n-M | is it morning anywhere? | 15:07 |
| andantino | noon here | 15:07 |
| M-n-M | its 9 pm here :) | 15:08 |
| M-n-M | can't wait to use Lubuntu 11.10 | 15:08 |
| andantino | i was just asking if anyone has tried the beta | 15:09 |
| andantino | i think you could download it now | 15:09 |
| andantino | you just have to keep running your updates | 15:09 |
| M-n-M | beta are beta, final is final :) | 15:10 |
| M-n-M | no, i'm going to do a fresh install in my old desktop which has xp | 15:10 |
| andantino | if im not mistaken all you have to do is update beta when it is released and you should be good | 15:11 |
| M-n-M | when updating from beta, how much will i have to download? | 15:12 |
| andantino | no idea | 15:12 |
| M-n-M | that's why | 15:12 |
| andantino | might as well wait for the release i guess | 15:12 |
| andantino | its tomorrow | 15:12 |
| andantino | isnt it? | 15:13 |
| M-n-M | yup | 15:13 |
| andantino | im running the ubuntu beta now | 15:13 |
| M-n-M | i have ubuntu 11.04 in my laptop, i'm going to install lubuntu in my old desktop with 256mb RAM :) | 15:14 |
| andantino | i have lubuntu on an old pc | 15:14 |
| andantino | works like a charm | 15:14 |
| M-n-M | hope so... | 15:14 |
| andantino | mine has 512 mb ram though | 15:15 |
| andantino | someone added ram for me one time years ago | 15:15 |
| ahma | Works fine with 256ram | 15:15 |
| andantino | lubuntu is an awesome distro | 15:16 |
| M-n-M | yea | 15:16 |
| ahma | Just install using alternate or minimal install | 15:16 |
| andantino | im considering putting it on my moms laptop even though its new | 15:16 |
| M-n-M | lot better than that over-featured Ubuntu | 15:16 |
| andantino | i have become accustomed to both gnome3 and unity now | 15:17 |
| andantino | but | 15:17 |
| M-n-M | i'll put ubuntu 11.10 in my laptop and Lubuntu in my desktop :) | 15:17 |
| andantino | there is still part of me that thinks there should be a taskbar down there | 15:17 |
| M-n-M | the hidden menubar of Unity is cool, saves space | 15:18 |
| ahma | M-n-M: use alternate or minimal install | 15:18 |
| andantino | yeah i have no problem with unity or gnome3 either | 15:18 |
| M-n-M | yup, i'm going to do exactly that | 15:18 |
| andantino | but im thinking a taskbar is more intuitive for my mom | 15:18 |
| ahma | Adantino: gnome :) | 15:18 |
| M-n-M | i tried to install xubuntu in my old pc through Live CD. lol my RAM could take it... | 15:19 |
| andantino | and i like lxde better than xfce | 15:19 |
| M-n-M | Gnome3 and Unity are pretty much the same, i guess | 15:19 |
| andantino | i actually prefer gnome3 | 15:19 |
| M-n-M | yeah, xfce is hung in the middle of lightweight and heavyweight | 15:19 |
| andantino | to show all open apps you just press the super key in gnome3 | 15:20 |
| M-n-M | lxde is the pure lightweight, for old computers and for faster computing | 15:20 |
| M-n-M | what's the "SUPER KEY" ? | 15:20 |
| andantino | windows key | 15:20 |
| M-n-M | to show all open apps, you just throw your mouse to the left.. :) | 15:21 |
| andantino | in unity you press super - w | 15:21 |
| M-n-M | in UNITY | 15:21 |
| andantino | no | 15:21 |
| andantino | you mean on the dock in ubuntu? | 15:21 |
| M-n-M | no!! ? | 15:21 |
| M-n-M | its called the launcher | 15:21 |
| M-n-M | not dock | 15:21 |
| M-n-M | just wondering, can we use lxde in Ubuntu as well? | 15:22 |
| andantino | you can download it | 15:22 |
| andantino | but i have had trouble with it | 15:22 |
| andantino | are you on ubuntu now M-n-M? | 15:23 |
| M-n-M | no, i'm using that old desktop with xp | 15:23 |
| andantino | ah | 15:23 |
| andantino | when you use it later | 15:23 |
| M-n-M | why, did u want me to do sth? | 15:23 |
| andantino | press windows key with 'w' | 15:23 |
| M-n-M | okz | 15:24 |
| andantino | and you will see the window switcher | 15:24 |
| andantino | whatever its called | 15:24 |
| M-n-M | what about Alt+Tab | 15:24 |
| andantino | not sure | 15:24 |
| andantino | does that do the same thing? | 15:24 |
| M-n-M | i always swith apps in Ubuntu using alt + tab :/ | 15:24 |
| andantino | windows key - w zooms out and shows all open apps on work space | 15:25 |
| andantino | smaller versions of each window on the screen | 15:25 |
| andantino | then you can just click the one you want to switch to | 15:25 |
| M-n-M | oh, don't need to use that i think | 15:25 |
| ahma | Alt+tab best imo | 15:25 |
| M-n-M | yup | 15:25 |
| andantino | i never use that. i will have to try that later | 15:27 |
| andantino | i think lubuntu would be a good option for my mom's laptop | 15:27 |
| andantino | even though she has more than enough resources | 15:28 |
| M-n-M | why? | 15:28 |
| andantino | well first off, i dont think she needs anything fancy | 15:28 |
| andantino | she does not do much | 15:28 |
| andantino | and secondly | 15:28 |
| andantino | i think she would just find the taskbar more intuitive | 15:29 |
| ahma | Ofc it is, just do some "set up" so she would't start hating "that lubuntu thing" ;) | 15:29 |
| andantino | but maybe not | 15:29 |
| andantino | right now i have her using fedora with gnome 3 | 15:29 |
| andantino | but she only goes on firefox | 15:30 |
| andantino | fedora was the only option because ubuntu had problems with certain mousepads | 15:31 |
| andantino | touchpads rather | 15:32 |
| M-n-M | i have never used fedora. how's it? | 15:32 |
| andantino | its pretty good | 15:32 |
| ahma | I did not like it | 15:32 |
| andantino | but | 15:32 |
| M-n-M | but? | 15:32 |
| andantino | you really have to fix things | 15:32 |
| andantino | at first | 15:32 |
| M-n-M | what do you mean? | 15:32 |
| andantino | part of it is gnome3 | 15:32 |
| andantino | but also it has some weird default settings on its own | 15:33 |
| andantino | for instance by default in fedora | 15:33 |
| haemogoblin | hey there | 15:33 |
| andantino | touchpad tapping is not enabled | 15:33 |
| andantino | in gnome3 gui the mouse settings allow you to change that | 15:33 |
| ahma | There was no options to customize in default and community support is minor | 15:33 |
| andantino | in lxde and xfce | 15:33 |
| haemogoblin | Does anyone know how do add desktop icons in Lubuntu? i've done it before but i can't for the life of me remember how | 15:33 |
| M-n-M | i think gnome 3 is made for screen touch devices | 15:33 |
| andantino | in fedora lxde and xfce tapping is not enabled and the gui provides no tool | 15:34 |
| andantino | to enable it | 15:34 |
| andantino | you can only increase speed | 15:34 |
| andantino | so you have to create a file in xorg.conf | 15:34 |
| haemogoblin | i'd be greatful if someone could point me in the right direction :) As not being able to work out how i did it before is really annoying | 15:35 |
| M-n-M | time to sleep :) | 15:36 |
| andantino | but after you get fedora configured well enough | 15:36 |
| andantino | its pretty good | 15:36 |
| andantino | haemoglobin | 15:36 |
| andantino | just right click the app in your launcher menu | 15:37 |
| andantino | and add to desktop | 15:37 |
| haemogoblin | what about if i'm wanting to add network?? | 15:37 |
| haemogoblin | every time i want to access the network i have to click on the file manager and then click on go. | 15:38 |
| tzhuang | hello lubuntu users | 15:38 |
| haemogoblin | is there not a way to put a network icon on the desktop or even the taskbar? | 15:38 |
| andantino | i think it should be in the taskbar | 15:38 |
| tzhuang | i was thinking of switching to lubuntu for 11.10 | 15:38 |
| ahma | It should be in taskbar by default | 15:39 |
| andantino | i cant remember, i havent even touched my lubuntu machine for while | 15:39 |
| tzhuang | will there be a noticeable speed increase from ubuntu->lubuntu? | 15:39 |
| haemogoblin | hmm no i dont have one | 15:39 |
| haemogoblin | i just have filemanager | 15:39 |
| andantino | lubuntu is much faster | 15:39 |
| andantino | much lighter i should say | 15:39 |
| haemogoblin | i like lubuntu, but lord the interface is sooooo cut down from ubuntu | 15:39 |
| ahma | Tzhuang, depends about your machine | 15:39 |
| tzhuang | hang on lemme check my specs | 15:40 |
| andantino | thats weird hemoglobin it should be in there | 15:40 |
| haemogoblin | nope | 15:40 |
| haemogoblin | i installed from the Alternative-install iso | 15:41 |
| haemogoblin | could that be the reason? | 15:41 |
| andantino | maybe | 15:41 |
| ahma | No | 15:41 |
| andantino | have you googled it to see if others have had similar problems? | 15:42 |
| haemogoblin | i seem to recall on a previous install of lubuntu i just clicked a tick box | 15:42 |
| haemogoblin | and it enabled the trashcan ect to appear on the desktop | 15:42 |
| haemogoblin | but at the moment my desktop it totally blank | 15:42 |
| andantino | you only have file manager now? | 15:44 |
| andantino | no other icons? | 15:44 |
| tzhuang | hmm i have 2G of RAM | 15:44 |
| tzhuang | and a dual core cpu at 1.6GHz each | 15:44 |
| tzhuang | i think my computer used mostly for the browser, vlc player, music player, and gnucash | 15:45 |
| tzhuang | that's about it | 15:45 |
| ahma | No dramatical increase I think | 15:46 |
| ahma | Ubuntu should run fine with those | 15:46 |
| andantino | i bet startup would be faster | 15:46 |
| tzhuang | hmmm | 15:47 |
| haemogoblin | you think ubuntu would be have on a 1.6ghz intel duo? | 15:47 |
| tzhuang | well im a minimalist when it comes to these things | 15:47 |
| tzhuang | if start up will be faster i think i might switch to lubuntu | 15:47 |
| andantino | i think you will notice certain things are much faster | 15:48 |
| ahma | Then lubuntu :) | 15:48 |
| tzhuang | that sounds good | 15:48 |
| tzhuang | only thing is | 15:48 |
| tzhuang | will lunbuntu play nice with my /home partition | 15:48 |
| haemogoblin | So long as your not going to miss the conforts of ubuntu | 15:48 |
| tzhuang | which comforts are those >__> | 15:48 |
| haemogoblin | Well for a start it's a bit more cut down in my opinion | 15:49 |
| haemogoblin | I've discovering things like Network icons and just short cuts in general are not availible | 15:49 |
| andantino | i had an acer with 3gb ram and amd dual core, cant remember the speed | 15:49 |
| haemogoblin | to navigating the OS is laborious | 15:49 |
| andantino | and i noticed a difference between ubuntu and lubuntu | 15:49 |
| ahma | Icons cant be drawd to panels etc. | 15:49 |
| andantino | i have never had that issue here though haemoglobin | 15:49 |
| ahma | Me neither | 15:50 |
| haemogoblin | Well if you can tell me how to make the trashcan appear i'd be greatful | 15:50 |
| tzhuang | the community here on irc seems better than the the one on ubuntu lol | 15:50 |
| andantino | in fact because there is less on the system, i dont think i have noticed any bugs with lubuntu | 15:50 |
| tzhuang | o pssht i never even use the trashcan. everything goes striaght to obliteration | 15:50 |
| tzhuang | loool | 15:50 |
| andantino | nothing i remember anyways | 15:50 |
| haemogoblin | i'm just a bit annoyed with constantly having to go via the filemanager when i need to get somewhere | 15:51 |
| andantino | and i think lxde actually looks pretty sharp | 15:51 |
| ahma | Haemogoblin, open folders and it should be in menu left | 15:51 |
| tzhuang | 11.10 is scheduled release tmr same time as ubuntu? | 15:51 |
| andantino | especially with lubuntu's default panel | 15:51 |
| haemogoblin | open folderS? | 15:51 |
| haemogoblin | you mean filemanager? | 15:52 |
| ahma | Like homefolder | 15:52 |
| haemogoblin | thats my filemanager | 15:52 |
| andantino | your app launcher menu thing | 15:52 |
| haemogoblin | one sec | 15:53 |
| andantino | if you find network | 15:53 |
| andantino | just right click and add to desktop | 15:53 |
| andantino | but there is something weird there, because it definitely should be in your systray thingy | 15:53 |
| haemogoblin | want to run that past me one more time | 15:53 |
| haemogoblin | on my system tray i have | 15:53 |
| andantino | it should be on the right side | 15:53 |
| andantino | over by the clock | 15:53 |
| haemogoblin | filemanager, chrome, iconify all windows | 15:54 |
| haemogoblin | ok | 15:54 |
| haemogoblin | i've got it open | 15:54 |
| andantino | do you have stuff on the right side? | 15:54 |
| haemogoblin | Yes | 15:54 |
| haemogoblin | sound | 15:54 |
| haemogoblin | clock | 15:54 |
| haemogoblin | and power icon | 15:54 |
| andantino | thats where it should be | 15:54 |
| haemogoblin | for shutting down | 15:54 |
| andantino | right click on the panel itself haemoglobin | 15:55 |
| haemogoblin | will i find it under the add/remove panel window? | 15:55 |
| andantino | in an empty place | 15:55 |
| andantino | panel preferences | 15:55 |
| haemogoblin | yep | 15:55 |
| haemogoblin | i'm there now | 15:55 |
| haemogoblin | panel prefs | 15:56 |
| andantino | anything for adding icons | 15:56 |
| andantino | or | 15:56 |
| andantino | maybe its not panel preferences | 15:56 |
| andantino | right click on panel again | 15:56 |
| andantino | and is there anything for adding stuff to panel | 15:56 |
| andantino | i could go on my lubuntu pc | 15:56 |
| andantino | ill do just that....brb with exact instructions | 15:57 |
| andantino | unless you figure it out first | 15:57 |
| haemogoblin | i've been at it over and hour | 15:58 |
| haemogoblin | an hour | 15:58 |
| haemogoblin | and had no luck | 15:58 |
| haemogoblin | i've not got a clue what i'm doing wrong | 15:58 |
| haemogoblin | i KNOW i had it working before | 15:58 |
| haemogoblin | but i reinstalled | 15:58 |
| andantino | hmmm | 16:02 |
| andantino | weird i figured out how to delete items from the systray | 16:02 |
| andantino | there should be a way to reset the panel | 16:02 |
| tzhuang | 11.10 is scheduled release tmr same time as ubuntu? | 16:02 |
| haemogoblin | well i've been through all the panel plugins and nothing | 16:03 |
| haemogoblin | i cant seem to add icons to my desktop | 16:03 |
| andantino | i would think so tzhuang | 16:03 |
| andantino | lubuntu is now officially part of the ubuntu family with this release | 16:03 |
| andantino | you will find out tomorrow | 16:03 |
| andantino | to add items to the desktop | 16:04 |
| andantino | you use your launcher menu | 16:04 |
| andantino | navigate to the program you want | 16:04 |
| andantino | like you would when you want to use it, but right click on it and select add to desktop | 16:04 |
| haemogoblin | ok | 16:05 |
| haemogoblin | i know this | 16:05 |
| andantino | but it does not work | 16:05 |
| haemogoblin | bare with me | 16:05 |
| andantino | ? | 16:05 |
| haemogoblin | open your filemanager | 16:05 |
| haemogoblin | on the menu click GO | 16:05 |
| haemogoblin | Network Drives | 16:05 |
| haemogoblin | I want a short cut for Network drives | 16:05 |
| haemogoblin | on the desktop | 16:05 |
| andantino | have you tried right clicking on it? | 16:05 |
| haemogoblin | it's not an icon it's a menu option | 16:06 |
| haemogoblin | if you try on your lubuntu you will see what i mean | 16:06 |
| andantino | ok one sec | 16:06 |
| haemogoblin | on the left panel of the filemanager window | 16:06 |
| haemogoblin | i have | 16:06 |
| haemogoblin | my user, desktop, rubbish, Applications | 16:07 |
| andantino | im not talking about file manager | 16:07 |
| andantino | do you not have like a start menu? | 16:07 |
| haemogoblin | yes i do | 16:07 |
| andantino | can you find your network in there? | 16:07 |
| haemogoblin | nope | 16:07 |
| andantino | ok one sec | 16:07 |
| andantino | really though | 16:07 |
| andantino | i think you should reinstall | 16:07 |
| KM0201 | you want it on your desktop? | 16:08 |
| haemogoblin | yes | 16:08 |
| KM0201 | that shouldn't be that difficult. | 16:08 |
| KM0201 | hold on | 16:08 |
| andantino | you never had a network icon in your systray | 16:08 |
| andantino | even after install? | 16:08 |
| haemogoblin | i hade one before | 16:08 |
| haemogoblin | but i had to reinstall | 16:08 |
| haemogoblin | and since then | 16:08 |
| andantino | are you using the beta? | 16:08 |
| KM0201 | oh, you want a network icon in your system try | 16:08 |
| andantino | well he just wants a network icon somewhere | 16:09 |
| KM0201 | wait, i'm confused. | 16:09 |
| andantino | that should be there by default | 16:09 |
| haemogoblin | i like one on the system tray or the desktop | 16:09 |
| KM0201 | ok. | 16:09 |
| andantino | i think something is screwed up with his install | 16:09 |
| haemogoblin | just so i can skip the whole, taskbar/filemanager/go/ | 16:09 |
| KM0201 | andantino: and you currently don't haveone on the taskbar, right? | 16:09 |
| andantino | i do | 16:09 |
| haemogoblin | i dont | 16:09 |
| haemogoblin | :) | 16:10 |
| andantino | he never had one | 16:10 |
| KM0201 | ok | 16:10 |
| KM0201 | i take it lubuntu gets online normally? | 16:10 |
| andantino | which seems kinda strange | 16:10 |
| haemogoblin | i installed the alternate iso and upgraded to 10.04 | 16:10 |
| KM0201 | lubuntu didn't have a verssion prior to 10.04 | 16:11 |
| haemogoblin | i used the alternative-iso as originally i was using a 4gb microdrive | 16:11 |
| haemogoblin | i mean 11.04 | 16:11 |
| haemogoblin | sorry | 16:11 |
| KM0201 | ok | 16:11 |
| KM0201 | what did you upgrade? 10.10? | 16:11 |
| haemogoblin | one sec | 16:11 |
| KM0201 | if you didn't upgrade from 10.10, to 11.04.. thent hat could be some of the problem, even w/ the alt cd as the upgrade source, you cannot skip releases (unless going LTS to LTS) | 16:13 |
| andantino | if its not too much of a hassle | 16:13 |
| andantino | i would just download and reinstall | 16:13 |
| haemogoblin | i think i will | 16:14 |
| andantino | KM, if i install the beta all i would need to do is update and upgrade | 16:14 |
| haemogoblin | that is the one thing i didn't do | 16:14 |
| KM0201 | andantino: i'm not suggesting install the beta | 16:14 |
| andantino | and it will upgrade me to 11.10 when it is released ya | 16:14 |
| haemogoblin | when i installed the alt iso | 16:14 |
| haemogoblin | i didn't update it | 16:15 |
| andantino | no i know, im asking personally | 16:15 |
| haemogoblin | i just let it upgrade | 16:15 |
| KM0201 | yes, if you install the beta, and keep it up to date, when the final release hits, you'll have "final" | 16:15 |
| haemogoblin | perhaps thats the difference | 16:15 |
| haemogoblin | maybe thats why i'm missing menu options | 16:15 |
| andantino | im considering putting it on my moms lappy | 16:15 |
| haemogoblin | i might download the full iso and see how i get on | 16:15 |
| andantino | yeah those things should be there by default haemoglobin | 16:15 |
| haemogoblin | thanks | 16:16 |
| haemogoblin | i'll do that tonight | 16:16 |
| haemogoblin | i didn't think lubuntu was THAT different to ubuntu | 16:16 |
| haemogoblin | which is what was throwing me | 16:16 |
| andantino | well, i have never had problems with it here | 16:16 |
| andantino | i think maybe when you reinstall everything should be a bit rosier for you | 16:16 |
| andantino | though i gotta admit i rarely touch this computer | 16:17 |
| haemogoblin | I just built this one | 16:17 |
| haemogoblin | i've made a sort of vintage looking mini ITX system | 16:18 |
| andantino | i like a lot of lubuntu's included software | 16:18 |
| haemogoblin | looks like a mini Altair 8800 | 16:18 |
| andantino | not that its hard to change in ubuntu | 16:18 |
| andantino | but there is much less of it and i prefer pidgin to empathy | 16:18 |
| andantino | i prefer abiword to libreoffice | 16:18 |
| andantino | KM, 11.10 will be released tomorrow, ya? | 16:19 |
| wxl | morning kids | 16:19 |
| KM0201 | andantino: id assume so | 16:19 |
| wxl | haemogoblin: what's the specs on that miniITX box? | 16:19 |
| KM0201 | andantino: but the odds of Lubuntu 11.10 being released tomorrow, seems far fetched | 16:19 |
| andantino | ah | 16:20 |
| andantino | have you tried the beta? | 16:20 |
| wxl | i'm planning on doing a miniITX NAS | 16:20 |
| wxl | using it for other things too, e.g. icecast | 16:20 |
| tzhuang | sry im like hopping back and forth to the keyboard | 16:20 |
| tzhuang | andantino: thanks a lot for your help | 16:20 |
| KM0201 | wxl: i'm running ubuntu server on my NAS | 16:21 |
| KM0201 | it's easy | 16:21 |
| wxl | sweet | 16:21 |
| andantino | no problem | 16:21 |
| KM0201 | mine is basic.. FTP, Torrent, Samba, Mediatomb, Firefly | 16:21 |
| andantino | did you install it already tzhunag? | 16:21 |
| andantino | tzhuang* | 16:21 |
| wxl | i really wanted an asus hummingbird mboard but it seems they're gone | 16:22 |
| KM0201 | hmm | 16:22 |
| KM0201 | mine's just on an old PC i had | 16:22 |
| KM0201 | well, old "semi-rebuilt" PC | 16:22 |
| wxl | yeah i could do that | 16:22 |
| wxl | my wife wouldn't let me ;) | 16:22 |
| wxl | i actually have a machine that's perfect for that | 16:22 |
| wxl | i think it would be fun to build a miniITX box | 16:22 |
| KM0201 | not the fastest thing on the planet, but slapped a couple 1tb drives in there, and it's awesome as a home server | 16:22 |
| KM0201 | why mini-itx? | 16:23 |
| wxl | small | 16:23 |
| KM0201 | i see | 16:23 |
| wxl | run it headless on the bookshelf | 16:23 |
| wxl | means wife doesn't complain | 16:23 |
| KM0201 | well, headless... that goes w/o saying | 16:23 |
| wxl | sure, sure | 16:23 |
| KM0201 | although.. you'll probably need some sort of display temporarily (along w/ an optical drive) till you get the OS installed and set up | 16:24 |
| wxl | so does ubuntu server offer a desktop environment by default | 16:24 |
| wxl | yeah and that's no prob | 16:24 |
| KM0201 | no | 16:24 |
| wxl | oh that's good! | 16:25 |
| KM0201 | its totally command line.. managed by SSH from a client machine | 16:25 |
| wxl | exactly my thinking | 16:25 |
| KM0201 | i practiced w/ Vbox, before fully implementing it onto my server | 16:25 |
| KM0201 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112265 | 16:25 |
| wxl | the think that's nice about that asus hummingbird is it offers BIOS LEVEL remote access | 16:25 |
| KM0201 | really? | 16:26 |
| KM0201 | thats impressive | 16:26 |
| wxl | http://www.asus.com/Server_Workstation/Server_Motherboards/Hummingbird/ | 16:26 |
| wxl | i just can't find any anywhere | 16:26 |
| KM0201 | that looks expensive | 16:27 |
| wxl | yeah it'snot the cheapest thing around | 16:27 |
| wxl | i'm of the mindset tho you get what you pay for | 16:27 |
| KM0201 | yeah, but.. for me, thats overkill for my home server | 16:27 |
| KM0201 | all i need is a few sataports, wakeonlan, and thats about it | 16:28 |
| wxl | raid's important to me | 16:28 |
| wxl | wake on lan | 16:28 |
| wxl | watchdog timer | 16:28 |
| KM0201 | i use raid1 (software)... i considered getting a raid controller, but changed my mind. | 16:28 |
| wxl | why for? | 16:29 |
| KM0201 | honestly, cuz i had the software raid working fine, no reasn to mess with it. | 16:29 |
| KM0201 | i've got my 1tb drives mirroring just fine, i've got the actual OS installed on an old 80gig 2.5in hard drive i had... | 16:29 |
| KM0201 | overkill on space.. but.. meh, i don't care | 16:29 |
| wxl | i've not had the experience with software raid but concerns i've read about reliability have me worried | 16:30 |
| KM0201 | software raid is very dependable. | 16:30 |
| KM0201 | another issue you'd want to consider, if you bought a motherboard that obscure, is if ubuntu(assuming you used ubuntu server) woudl 100% support it | 16:31 |
| wxl | yep, good point | 16:31 |
| andantino | anyone know if 11.10 will have an official 64 bit release? | 16:31 |
| wxl | it does have general linux support | 16:31 |
| wxl | i'm sure 11.10 will have everything eventually | 16:31 |
| wxl | in the near term, i don't think we'll see it or ppc for that matter (my gripe) | 16:31 |
| KM0201 | well, PPC ubuntu's are a community project.. i don't think they ar eofficially suppoted by canonical any longer | 16:32 |
| wxl | they're always offering ppcs in daily which is encouraging | 16:32 |
| wxl | i've seen seasons where that was too much to ask | 16:33 |
| KM0201 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ | 16:33 |
| KM0201 | yea | 16:33 |
| KM0201 | Is Ubuntu supported on PowerPC? | 16:33 |
| KM0201 | Ubuntu 6.10 was the last officially supported PowerPC version of Ubuntu. Future versions will be community supported. This was announced on the mailing list. | 16:33 |
| wxl | i'm running ocelot on a powerbook :D | 16:33 |
| KM0201 | but it's an intel isn't it? | 16:33 |
| wxl | ubuntu wikis are RIDDLED with outdated info | 16:33 |
| wxl | nope | 16:33 |
| wxl | g4 | 16:34 |
| KM0201 | hmm, | 16:34 |
| KM0201 | interesting | 16:34 |
| KM0201 | like i said though, i don't think it's an official ubuntu port | 16:34 |
| KM0201 | could be wrong though. | 16:34 |
| wxl | used one of the dalies and it's wonderful | 16:34 |
| wxl | way faster than leopard (os x) was | 16:34 |
| haemogoblin | back | 16:46 |
| wxl | sounds like ppc isn't being totally swept under the table: http://v.gd/9EOhTW | 16:46 |
| haemogoblin | hey just a thought, but i read online someone mentioning openbox | 16:46 |
| haemogoblin | and that it doesn't support desktop icons | 16:47 |
| haemogoblin | could this have any bearing on what i'm having trouble with? | 16:47 |
| haemogoblin | Yay i found how to do it! | 16:59 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 16:59 |
| silverlightning | hi | 17:03 |
| silverlightning | hi | 17:31 |
| bodhi_zazen | 'lo silverlightning | 17:36 |
| silverlightning | ; ) | 17:37 |
| silverlightning | my oneric is still working | 17:37 |
| silverlightning | I miss all kinds of plugins stil | 17:51 |
| silverlightning | anyone clever with plugins? | 17:53 |
| silverlightning | what is running here http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=23173131 | 17:53 |
| silverlightning | ? | 17:53 |
| silverlightning | for live events on the web | 17:54 |
| silverlightning | hi KM0201 | 17:55 |
| silverlightning | just the right guy | 17:55 |
| KM0201 | uh oh | 17:56 |
| silverlightning | ; ) | 17:56 |
| silverlightning | are you in lubuntu now? | 17:56 |
| KM0201 | yes | 17:56 |
| silverlightning | can you test this one for me http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=23173131 | 17:56 |
| silverlightning | I am missing a plugin and can't figure out which? | 17:56 |
| KM0201 | works for me.. they're talking about money. | 17:57 |
| KM0201 | horrible audio though | 17:57 |
| KM0201 | sounds like a tatoo gun is in the background | 17:57 |
| KM0201 | lol | 17:57 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: it seems to need flash... (thats what i'm using to play it..) do you have flash | 17:57 |
| silverlightning | I don't have flash? | 17:58 |
| silverlightning | hmm | 17:58 |
| silverlightning | package manager? | 17:58 |
| KM0201 | i don't know, do you have flash? | 17:58 |
| KM0201 | thats what i'm using to play it, and ti works. | 17:58 |
| KM0201 | can you view youtube videos? | 17:58 |
| silverlightning | it is probably so, I miss flash | 17:59 |
| KM0201 | well, then install flash | 17:59 |
| silverlightning | I usually get flash very fast | 18:00 |
| silverlightning | like first thing I install | 18:00 |
| silverlightning | this time I went straight for html5 | 18:00 |
| silverlightning | hmm, It seems some flash packages are installed ? | 18:01 |
| wxl | are we all on firefox? | 18:01 |
| KM0201 | no way | 18:01 |
| KM0201 | Chrome | 18:01 |
| wxl | you too silverlightning ? | 18:01 |
| KM0201 | or Chromium... whatever | 18:01 |
| silverlightning | I am in chromium, | 18:02 |
| silverlightning | but I might get ff | 18:02 |
| silverlightning | because of the plugin | 18:02 |
| KM0201 | why? flash works fine w/ chromium | 18:02 |
| silverlightning | but doesn't have flash video replacer ; ) | 18:03 |
| KM0201 | i have no idea what that is, so... ok | 18:03 |
| KM0201 | if i could get totem to adjust brightness, i'd be thrilled | 18:03 |
| KM0201 | but i can't find an equalizer on it anywhere | 18:04 |
| negueba | how can i watch 720p utube videos on totem??? | 18:04 |
| silverlightning | a clever plugin KM0201 | 18:04 |
| silverlightning | no totem here | 18:05 |
| silverlightning | mplayer is much nicer on this system | 18:05 |
| wxl | i thought chrome was the natural default for lubuntu but every time i've installed i've gotten firefox. maybe there's no ppc version | 18:05 |
| wxl | admittedly i'd miss vimperator | 18:06 |
| silverlightning | really weird, only chromium here | 18:06 |
| silverlightning | the last two 11.04 and 10 | 18:06 |
| KM0201 | wxl: thats probably what it is.. strange though (i always get chromium) | 18:07 |
| wxl | yeah that's what it is | 18:07 |
| wxl | ppc | 18:07 |
| wxl | just loaded up my intel vm and it's got chromium | 18:12 |
| KM0201 | yeah, makes sense i guess | 18:16 |
| KM0201 | i'm trying to find a good icon to shortcut my NAS.. | 18:16 |
| KM0201 | not realy coming up w/ one though | 18:16 |
| silverlightning | back in a while | 18:17 |
| silverlightning | hi again | 18:27 |
| silverlightning | now it says I need to update flash player? | 18:27 |
| KM0201 | well, what version of flash are you using? | 18:28 |
| silverlightning | i just installed flash player? | 18:28 |
| silverlightning | hmm, hard to tell | 18:28 |
| silverlightning | adobe flash is not listed as app | 18:28 |
| KM0201 | type "about:plugins" in the URL of chrome, and hit enter | 18:29 |
| silverlightning | with tongue out+ | 18:29 |
| silverlightning | ? | 18:29 |
| Gene | hey guys, is the lubuntu 'minimal diskspace' iso a 'live cd' ? | 18:29 |
| KM0201 | minimal disk space?... | 18:30 |
| wxl | Gene: minimal INSTALL is not | 18:30 |
| silverlightning | I really should have all plugins | 18:30 |
| wxl | and i think that those are synonymous | 18:30 |
| KM0201 | Gene: minimal install, is a command line only OS... | 18:30 |
| Gene | yeah, claims to be the same thing except using a different installer and requireing less disk | 18:30 |
| wxl | oh right it is a live cd i forgot | 18:31 |
| wxl | but true, it is cli only | 18:31 |
| silverlightning | I think regular lubuntu needs 4 point something GB to install | 18:31 |
| KM0201 | hmm, neer heard of that one | 18:31 |
| Gene | I have a friend with a toshiba laptop, and a counterfeit windows, looking for something light to put in for him. | 18:31 |
| Gene | looking for something he could 'try out' before we actually install | 18:32 |
| wxl | Gene: if you want light and graphical, go lubuntu | 18:32 |
| silverlightning | lubuntu might be ideal Gene | 18:32 |
| wxl | if you want to try it out, just make a dvd out of the standard desktop | 18:32 |
| bioterror | make USB pendrive | 18:32 |
| wxl | or a usb key if his bios supports it | 18:32 |
| bioterror | if you hardware supports usb | 18:32 |
| bioterror | it's faster | 18:32 |
| silverlightning | regular lubuntu would boot fine into live cd? regardless of disk space? | 18:32 |
| Gene | not sure if his does or not | 18:32 |
| wxl | one way to find out-- look at the bios settings | 18:33 |
| Gene | yeah, he ( and his comp) aren't here at the moment | 18:33 |
| wxl | i had a near-full hard drive that i ran the live cd on silverlightning | 18:33 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | silverlightning: try add cannonical partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin | 18:33 |
| Gene | just trying to find something to burn to disk to be prepared | 18:33 |
| wxl | Gene: then i'd just make a live dvd | 18:34 |
| silverlightning | Gene, have you tipped him about irc? pigin is default in latest lubuntu | 18:34 |
| Gene | is it? good | 18:34 |
| silverlightning | yes, I like it | 18:34 |
| Gene | he's 77, an artist, and relatively computer illiterate (so far) | 18:34 |
| wxl | cool good job gene | 18:34 |
| Gene | i'm getting ready to educate him | 18:35 |
| silverlightning | gene, do you have specs for the toshiba? | 18:35 |
| Gene | not right off hand, like i said, not here | 18:35 |
| wxl | is it a desktop or laptop? | 18:35 |
| silverlightning | JohnDoe_71Rus: I think I have, | 18:35 |
| Gene | laptop | 18:35 |
| wxl | know what windows he's running? | 18:36 |
| Gene | somewhere around 1.6 ghz, and a bit less than 1 gig of memory | 18:36 |
| silverlightning | JohnDoe_71Rus: unusual issue this time | 18:36 |
| wxl | ok well that's telling | 18:36 |
| Gene | counterfeit xp | 18:36 |
| wxl | my guess is it will work | 18:36 |
| wxl | ..with usb | 18:36 |
| KM0201 | i think i got my desktop how i want it now, i'm happy...lol http://imagebin.org/178658 | 18:36 |
| silverlightning | lubuntu is very easy transition from xp | 18:36 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: thats ridiculous | 18:36 |
| silverlightning | nice dekstop | 18:37 |
| haemogoblin | xp / lubuntu lol | 18:37 |
| silverlightning | I must have messed up somewhere | 18:37 |
| KM0201 | messed up what? | 18:37 |
| silverlightning | butus are so easy | 18:37 |
| silverlightning | my flash or related plugin | 18:37 |
| KM0201 | ubuntu's are easy, but there is a very steep learning curve when coming from windows, to linux | 18:38 |
| KM0201 | and telling people it's an "easy transition" is just simply a lie. | 18:38 |
| KM0201 | most of us have been "Window'd" since we were in first grade. | 18:38 |
| haemogoblin | KM0201: how did you get that nas icon? | 18:38 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: i downloaded it..lol | 18:38 |
| haemogoblin | oh do tell | 18:39 |
| silverlightning | yes, you do have to go through the fickely restricted stuff, unless you are lucky with restricted packages and everything works | 18:39 |
| Gene | no transition for him, just learning curve, he's pretty illiterate | 18:39 |
| KM0201 | Gene: then he's perfect. | 18:39 |
| haemogoblin | i've not been able to get any icons on the desktop | 18:39 |
| Gene | hopefully | 18:39 |
| haemogoblin | and thats exactly what i was after | 18:39 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 18:39 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: true, me too. It was all windows | 18:39 |
| silverlightning | and the odd mac | 18:39 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: well, the way *I* did it.... (there's other ways of course | 18:40 |
| KM0201 | go to menu/accessories/file manage | 18:40 |
| haemogoblin | there | 18:40 |
| KM0201 | and right click file manager in the menu, and choose 'add to desktop" | 18:40 |
| KM0201 | (sorry, right click it in the menu) | 18:40 |
| silverlightning | seriously, I have never had issues with flash before | 18:40 |
| KM0201 | that will add it to the desktop | 18:40 |
| silverlightning | ever | 18:40 |
| silverlightning | well, at least only cpu heavy | 18:40 |
| KM0201 | then, right click the new icon on your desktop, and choose "Leafpad" | 18:40 |
| haemogoblin | one sec | 18:41 |
| haemogoblin | i'm catching up with you | 18:41 |
| haemogoblin | :P | 18:41 |
| KM0201 | no pro | 18:41 |
| KM0201 | *b | 18:41 |
| silverlightning | I had a medibuntu page last night | 18:41 |
| haemogoblin | ok i'm there | 18:41 |
| wxl | anyone had a lot of experience with themeing? i've tried to get a couple from box looks or whatever it is going but no such luck | 18:41 |
| haemogoblin | leafpad is open | 18:41 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: ok, did you open it in leafpad.. | 18:41 |
| KM0201 | ok.. | 18:41 |
| haemogoblin | Yes | 18:42 |
| KM0201 | now.. most of that stuff in there, is totally irrelevant, but... | 18:42 |
| KM0201 | but.. first... at the very top, you'll see "Icon"... download an icon to your computer, and put the path to that icon there. (for instance, mine is /home/username/icons/icon.png) | 18:42 |
| silverlightning | what about gnash? | 18:42 |
| KM0201 | then "Name" this is the actual name of the icon on the desktop... change that from "file-manager" to whatever you want... I choose "NAS" obviously | 18:42 |
| wxl | running my vm with 256mb of ram and it's really not too bad.. especially given i've got the cpu throttled back to max at 70% usage (in the vm) | 18:42 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: got that so far? | 18:43 |
| wxl | as far as i know the flash options are adobe, gnash, lightspark, and swfdec silverlightning | 18:43 |
| haemogoblin | well i'm going to skip the icon bit | 18:43 |
| silverlightning | wxl: you mean choose default themes in dekstop manager+ | 18:43 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: thats fine | 18:43 |
| haemogoblin | i've changed the name to NAS | 18:43 |
| KM0201 | ok | 18:43 |
| silverlightning | sort of look and feel+ | 18:43 |
| silverlightning | ? | 18:43 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: now, scroll to the very bottom | 18:43 |
| haemogoblin | rgr, done | 18:43 |
| wxl | i haven't had much luck with any but i'm on ppc | 18:44 |
| KM0201 | and like 3-4 lines up, you'll see "Exec=pcmanfm ..." | 18:44 |
| haemogoblin | yep | 18:44 |
| wxl | and yeah, you're right silverlightning .. there's an option to install a new theme that i can never get to work | 18:44 |
| KM0201 | make that.. "Exec=pcmanfm /path/to/NAS".. so for me.. it was.. "Exec=pcmanfm smb://192.168.1.9" | 18:44 |
| silverlightning | wxl, I seem only to have trouble with live audio transmission, "need to update adobe" | 18:44 |
| silverlightning | daft issues | 18:44 |
| KM0201 | obviously, that is assuming you're using samba. | 18:44 |
| KM0201 | on your server | 18:45 |
| haemogoblin | could i use the address network:/// | 18:45 |
| KM0201 | um... you can try. | 18:45 |
| haemogoblin | just to give me the top of the network? | 18:45 |
| silverlightning | what is my nick really? | 18:45 |
| silverlightning | here it says silverarrow? | 18:45 |
| KM0201 | it won't hurt to try | 18:45 |
| KM0201 | then after that, save the text file | 18:45 |
| KM0201 | and then double click the icon, and see if it opens where you want it. | 18:45 |
| haemogoblin | KM0201: you are the man! | 18:46 |
| haemogoblin | :) | 18:46 |
| KM0201 | ;) | 18:46 |
| haemogoblin | worked like a charm! | 18:46 |
| haemogoblin | thank you | 18:46 |
| haemogoblin | that is just great | 18:46 |
| wxl | that should be in a wiki somewhere | 18:46 |
| KM0201 | you can creat ecustom ones, but.. i generally find that finding one to to modify, is easier | 18:46 |
| wxl | makes complete and total sense but is definitely not obvious | 18:46 |
| KM0201 | wxl: i think it is in the faq (how to add .desktop files) | 18:46 |
| haemogoblin | where is a good place to find an icon online? | 18:46 |
| wxl | oh ok | 18:46 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: i just did a google image search for that one.. since my server runs ubuntu, i put in something like "Ubuntu network icon" or something like that | 18:47 |
| haemogoblin | i've been looking all over and i've not had much luck finding anything in regards to desktop icons and lubuntu | 18:47 |
| wxl | you could look on box looks or deviant art | 18:47 |
| silverlightning | I do have flash plugin installer, | 18:47 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: I discovered why I was having trouble with streaming tv | 18:49 |
| KM0201 | why is that? | 18:49 |
| haemogoblin | just downloading some icons now :) | 18:50 |
| haemogoblin | cheers man | 18:50 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: apparently this old laptop doesn't handle highest resolution | 18:50 |
| silverlightning | and aborts | 18:50 |
| KM0201 | hmm | 18:50 |
| wxl | frankly i like the clean desktop | 18:50 |
| KM0201 | wxl: so do i | 18:50 |
| wxl | i only like to have on the desktop what i am currently working on | 18:50 |
| KM0201 | but i do like my NAS linked on my desktop, cuz i access it a good bit | 18:50 |
| wxl | that was something i hated about windows | 18:50 |
| silverlightning | I set it on medium and it runs fine, probably bogs up graphic card? | 18:50 |
| KM0201 | hmm | 18:50 |
| wxl | why don't you stick it in your fstab to automount? | 18:51 |
| KM0201 | wxl: it does auto mount | 18:51 |
| KM0201 | but then i still have to constantly open file manager, etc. | 18:51 |
| wxl | bind a key to open it ;) | 18:51 |
| KM0201 | i put a shortcut in pcmanfm... and i just didn't care for it there, so i wanted it on the desktop | 18:51 |
| KM0201 | wxl: honestly, you'll probably think i'm a nut, i HATE keyboard shortcuts | 18:52 |
| KM0201 | i always hav | 18:52 |
| wxl | i don't think you're a nut | 18:52 |
| KM0201 | lol | 18:52 |
| wxl | but that's the total opposite of me | 18:52 |
| wxl | i'm one of those oddballs that actually understands why ratpoison exists | 18:52 |
| wxl | although that's an extreme i don't take it to | 18:52 |
| wxl | here's a question i have | 18:54 |
| wxl | i've had a bunch of problems trying to get my hidden wifi to connect on start up | 18:54 |
| haemogoblin | just got some nice icons | 18:54 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 18:54 |
| wxl | what's stranger is that when i try to connect to a hidden network it just sits and spins | 18:54 |
| haemogoblin | going to try adding it now | 18:54 |
| wxl | so i have to go into connections and delete it and start over | 18:54 |
| wxl | wtf? | 18:54 |
| KM0201 | hmm, i have no idea on that one | 18:55 |
| haemogoblin | nice | 18:56 |
| haemogoblin | Cheers man that worked! | 18:56 |
| silverlightning | how do I check for flash player version? | 18:56 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: about:plugins in the URL bar of chrome | 18:56 |
| haemogoblin | KM0201: would you mind if i put this little trick up on my blog? i'll credit your name | 18:57 |
| haemogoblin | just i have spent all of today trying to work this out | 18:57 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: yeah, learning how Lxde handles desktop shortcuts, but its not bad. | 18:57 |
| haemogoblin | and you've solved it in 5 minutes | 18:57 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: lol, of course man | 18:57 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: lol, had i known you had that problem, i could have told you, i figured out how to do that months ago when i had this issue..lol | 18:57 |
| haemogoblin | well i'll upload it to my blog at some point | 18:58 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: adobe or flash not listed? | 18:58 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: obviously... if you want to create a shortcut to something other than a file browser, you'll have to modify it a little bit. | 18:58 |
| haemogoblin | keep an eye on here http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/ | 18:58 |
| silverlightning | though, it shows as installed in package manager? | 18:58 |
| haemogoblin | yeah for right now, all i needed was a network shortcut and a computer shortcut | 18:59 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 18:59 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: then how you did that, will work perfectly. it actually works perfect for anything you want to view w/ pcmanfm | 19:00 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: look at the very top.. http://imagebin.org/178665 | 19:00 |
| KM0201 | Gene: i meant to ask you, do you have solid linux experience... so this newb will have someone to rely on for help? | 19:00 |
| Gene | tried using : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CheckISO_CD to check the md5, doesn't work. help? | 19:00 |
| wxl | i agree | 19:01 |
| wxl | and you need to make sure update-manager is set up, Gene | 19:01 |
| Gene | using ubuntu 10.10 | 19:01 |
| wxl | what do you mean, doesn't work? wrong md5? | 19:01 |
| silverlightning | http://imagebin.org/178666 | 19:01 |
| * KM0201 never checks md5's.. | 19:01 | |
| * silverlightning always does | 19:01 | |
| * wxl rarely does either, unless there's issues | 19:02 | |
| Gene | doesn't show the cd on the desktop, even though it's there | 19:02 |
| KM0201 | wxl: if there's issues, i burn another cd...lol, if there's issues again, i download the ISO from another source and burn again | 19:02 |
| wxl | heh | 19:02 |
| silverlightning | mostly after two months of use, my puppy linux cd gave "check sum error" on boot | 19:02 |
| KM0201 | checking the md5, is about number 9 on the list of things i check for that sort of thing. | 19:02 |
| wxl | i don't like puppy | 19:02 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: what is it with my plugins? | 19:03 |
| KM0201 | i've honestly never had a properly burned *buntu cd fail me | 19:03 |
| wxl | that whole thing about checking teh md5 on the CD with dd is like.. uhhhhh... a little OCD | 19:03 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: honestly, i have no idea. | 19:03 |
| wxl | and it takes bloody FOREVER | 19:03 |
| haemogoblin | which is better firefox or chrome in lubuntu? | 19:03 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: disable html5 on youtube, and see if you can watch youtube w/ flash | 19:03 |
| Gene | ok, thanks anyway | 19:03 |
| wxl | haemogoblin: there are those that would argue for both | 19:03 |
| haemogoblin | hmm if this was my windows system it would be firefox | 19:03 |
| haemogoblin | for my | 19:03 |
| haemogoblin | me | 19:03 |
| wxl | chrome is a little lighter | 19:03 |
| haemogoblin | ah | 19:03 |
| wxl | anyone tried arora? | 19:04 |
| wxl | (i do prefer webkit) | 19:04 |
| haemogoblin | well i'm using an intel duo 1.6ghz | 19:04 |
| KM0201 | i like them both, but.. i figure pretty soon, google is gonna take over the world, might as well get in line now. | 19:04 |
| KM0201 | lol | 19:04 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: smart | 19:04 |
| haemogoblin | haha | 19:04 |
| wxl | doesn't f'in matter then haemogoblin :) | 19:04 |
| haemogoblin | i choose lubuntu as it's a mini itx with 512mb ram | 19:05 |
| haemogoblin | So i wanted something light | 19:05 |
| KM0201 | i have both on my system, but very rarely use firefox.. oddly enough, i have opera to.. why i don't know, but i do. | 19:05 |
| wxl | i'm running lubuntu on a vm with 256 and chrome seems good | 19:05 |
| haemogoblin | i seem to spend a lot of time running apps from the terminal | 19:05 |
| wxl | i personally find firefox a little memory happy | 19:05 |
| wxl | but there are plugins you can get to deal with that | 19:05 |
| wxl | haemogoblin: USE ELINKS :D | 19:05 |
| haemogoblin | elinks? | 19:06 |
| haemogoblin | what is that? | 19:06 |
| wxl | i want to hear about your miniitx system btw | 19:06 |
| haemogoblin | i'm using IRSSI at the moment | 19:06 |
| haemogoblin | this one i'm on now? | 19:06 |
| wxl | elinks is an awesome cli brwoser | 19:06 |
| KM0201 | isn't elinks a text browser? | 19:06 |
| haemogoblin | ooh sounds good | 19:06 |
| wxl | yeppers, but if you like the terminal, there you go | 19:06 |
| haemogoblin | i'll have a look at that | 19:06 |
| KM0201 | i tried it... it's a little to minimal for me | 19:06 |
| silverlightning | missing plugin? | 19:06 |
| wxl | if you want minimal graphics try dillo | 19:06 |
| haemogoblin | well ok | 19:06 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: there you go, you don't have flash installed | 19:06 |
| wxl | if you need all the bells and whistles and shit, do chrome | 19:06 |
| silverlightning | I do | 19:06 |
| silverlightning | weird | 19:07 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: lol, if it's telling you "missing plugin"... when you go to youtube, you don't | 19:07 |
| silverlightning | ...once more to package manager | 19:07 |
| haemogoblin | i was looking at the old Altair/Mits systems from the late 70's and i thought how cool they looked | 19:07 |
| KM0201 | or you're using a really old version | 19:07 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: hold on a second | 19:07 |
| KM0201 | close package manager | 19:07 |
| silverlightning | ok | 19:07 |
| haemogoblin | As i had a spare mini itx board sitting around | 19:07 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ | 19:08 |
| wxl | who has a spare mini itx board lying around? i'm moving in with you, dude | 19:08 |
| haemogoblin | i built it into a box with a front panel with LEDS and switches | 19:08 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: go there, choose your version of ubuntu, and download the .deb | 19:08 |
| wxl | you built your own box? | 19:08 |
| wxl | like the enclosure? | 19:08 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: actually, wait | 19:08 |
| KM0201 | don't do that | 19:08 |
| haemogoblin | No i found a case very similair to the old Altair cases | 19:08 |
| wxl | cool | 19:08 |
| wxl | you got pics of this thing somewhere? | 19:09 |
| haemogoblin | i didn't want to work on metal, cutting out the holes for stuff | 19:09 |
| haemogoblin | it would have been murder | 19:09 |
| haemogoblin | luckily this is plastic | 19:09 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: ? tar.gz, rpm, YUM? | 19:09 |
| haemogoblin | it's sitting here, flashing it's LEDS as me | 19:09 |
| haemogoblin | :P | 19:09 |
| wxl | i got a buddy into cnc.. that would be fun.. but those mini itx boxes (the fanless ones) ROCK | 19:09 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: hold on, i thought they had a .deb package | 19:09 |
| KM0201 | trying to figure out where it goes... download th e.tar file | 19:09 |
| haemogoblin | one sec, i will find pics | 19:09 |
| wxl | kewl | 19:09 |
| silverlightning | I should be able to get latest adobe via terminal really | 19:10 |
| haemogoblin | i had to build my own regulator for the front panel, as the 5v and 12v feed from the itx psu was to much | 19:10 |
| silverlightning | backports are enabled in betas | 19:10 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: well, something isn't computing for you if youve failed to install it numerous times | 19:10 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: did you download the tar file? | 19:10 |
| silverlightning | no | 19:10 |
| KM0201 | lol, ok | 19:10 |
| silverlightning | not yet at least | 19:11 |
| haemogoblin | http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/heaven-im-in-blinkie-heaven/ | 19:11 |
| haemogoblin | Ok this isn't the latest picture | 19:11 |
| * KM0201 remembers his teacher telling him about "leading horses to water..." | 19:11 | |
| silverlightning | yes, but you said wait | 19:11 |
| haemogoblin | but it's a movie file showing the front panel working | 19:11 |
| wxl | cool. can't wait to finally get my nas built. i told my mother in law to get me an amazon.com gift cert so i can start getting some of the pieces (like the enclosure) i need | 19:11 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: well, then download it. | 19:11 |
| wxl | i also need a new router, unfortunately | 19:11 |
| wxl | i didn't realize i don't have gig ethernet on it :''''( | 19:12 |
| haemogoblin | what was that terminal web browser?? | 19:12 |
| haemogoblin | i'm going to go download it | 19:13 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 19:13 |
| KM0201 | you mean that browser that is totally unusable in 2011? ;) elinks | 19:13 |
| wxl | elinks | 19:13 |
| haemogoblin | YES :D | 19:13 |
| haemogoblin | Woohoo | 19:13 |
| haemogoblin | hi ho hi ho...it's off to download i go | 19:13 |
| wxl | oh i forgot about w3m | 19:13 |
| wxl | it's a fork that's a little bit nicer | 19:14 |
| haemogoblin | I'm alreadying using Alpine to get my email | 19:14 |
| haemogoblin | ;) | 19:14 |
| wxl | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/W3m | 19:14 |
| wxl | look at that screenshot | 19:14 |
| wxl | inline images :D | 19:15 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: do you keep media on your NAS? (movies, etc..) to watch from there? if you do, you might wanna check out xbmc it's awesome | 19:15 |
| haemogoblin | I do and i do | 19:15 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 19:15 |
| wxl | haemogoblin: if you're hardcore about text, use irssi and bitlbee for im/irc | 19:15 |
| haemogoblin | started out with it on my old Xbox some years ago | 19:15 |
| KM0201 | oh ok. | 19:15 |
| wxl | heck i use it for twitter, identi.ca, facebook | 19:15 |
| haemogoblin | and now got my dad using it on his AppleTV | 19:16 |
| haemogoblin | :P | 19:16 |
| KM0201 | man, i tried irssi... i'm just not l33t enough for that... i like at least a "little bit" of a GUI.. | 19:16 |
| haemogoblin | i'm using IRSSI right now | 19:16 |
| wxl | for irc a gui is pointless but htat's my opinion | 19:16 |
| haemogoblin | i love the thing | 19:16 |
| bioterror | oh you youngsters, when I started to irc, we had only ircII, EPIC and BitchX ;) | 19:16 |
| bioterror | and ScrollZ | 19:16 |
| haemogoblin | i have my terminal old skool green text | 19:16 |
| mark76 | Why do I get a pop up about an encrypted page when I click that link? | 19:17 |
| KM0201 | wxl: i agree.. it is... but.. i'm usualy on 3 servers and about 10-12 channels.. it's just so easy to just click on them when i see them highlight | 19:17 |
| KM0201 | lol | 19:17 |
| wxl | yeah now add bitlbee to it and you'll never need pidgin/finch again | 19:17 |
| wxl | bioterror: oh you're young. when i started we only had ircII :D | 19:17 |
| wxl | mark76: i use http-everywhere in firefox | 19:17 |
| haemogoblin | bitlbee | 19:17 |
| wxl | sorry https | 19:17 |
| haemogoblin | might have a look at that | 19:17 |
| bioterror | I would rather keep im clients off from irc clients | 19:18 |
| KM0201 | that i agree w/ | 19:18 |
| wxl | KM0201: this is the joy of linux-- different strokes for different folks | 19:18 |
| bioterror | you can use multiplexers like screen or tmux | 19:18 |
| KM0201 | wxl: absolutely... | 19:18 |
| wxl | i luuuuv tmux | 19:18 |
| bioterror | and run finch or centerim for IM networks | 19:18 |
| silverlightning | really daft about flash player | 19:18 |
| silverlightning | o | 19:19 |
| wxl | i will admit alpine with gmail imap is annoying | 19:19 |
| haemogoblin | Elinks is AWESOME!! | 19:19 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: i have tried to help you... you won't listen | 19:19 |
| wxl | :) | 19:19 |
| wxl | play with that for a while and then try w3m haemogoblin | 19:19 |
| haemogoblin | I've surfing my blog with it | 19:19 |
| bioterror | wxl, I like cone more | 19:19 |
| haemogoblin | hahaha | 19:19 |
| haemogoblin | screen text | 19:19 |
| wxl | cone? | 19:19 |
| haemogoblin | green text i mean | 19:19 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: lol, you're a glutton for punishment | 19:19 |
| wxl | link me bioterror | 19:19 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: sorry, I do listen, but hesitate a bit about direct download from adobe site | 19:19 |
| haemogoblin | w3m | 19:19 |
| bioterror | wxl, apt-cache show cone | 19:19 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: then i don't know what to tell you | 19:19 |
| wxl | oh well duh | 19:19 |
| haemogoblin | w3m? | 19:20 |
| haemogoblin | what is that | 19:20 |
| KM0201 | another text browser | 19:20 |
| wxl | w3m is elinks+ -- it can do inline images | 19:20 |
| KM0201 | you didn't really think linux would only have 1 text browser did you? | 19:20 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: it's all right, I'm just trying to detect where I have messed up | 19:20 |
| haemogoblin | Well i was struggling with the bloody icons, so i dont assume anything now! | 19:20 |
| silverlightning | bioterror, I figured out why tv stream didn't work | 19:20 |
| haemogoblin | Well i was struggling with the bloody icons, so i dont assume anything now!:P | 19:20 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: my first thought, would be adding that totally unecessary medibuntu repository, but i told you that yesterday | 19:20 |
| haemogoblin | what was that im program | 19:21 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: might very well be it. I thought I had plugin / codeks trouble | 19:21 |
| haemogoblin | i'll go add it now | 19:21 |
| wxl | thanks for the tip bioterror i'll check into it | 19:22 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: all iknow, is i don't have medibuntu, and every site you've linked me to, works just fine... | 19:22 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: to get all the mess cleaned up, new install I suspect | 19:22 |
| KM0201 | now that i don't know, flash should be easy, you can uninstall al lthat crap you installed w/ medibuntu, then use lubuntu-restricted-extras and restricted-addons to add flash, etc | 19:22 |
| KM0201 | to your system | 19:22 |
| KM0201 | and you should be fine | 19:22 |
| haemogoblin | KM0201: what was that im app you suggested? | 19:23 |
| KM0201 | thats all i installed, and honestly, i never run into online media i can't play, unless ever so rarely, i hit a silver light site | 19:23 |
| KM0201 | for?.. instant messaging? Pidgin | 19:23 |
| wxl | finch or centerim haemogoblin | 19:23 |
| wxl | finch is better tho imho | 19:23 |
| haemogoblin | someone suggested a text/terminal app | 19:23 |
| KM0201 | yeah, if you're wanting a true command line thing.. finch is probably what you want | 19:23 |
| wxl | it's basically textpidgin | 19:23 |
| wxl | i mean it IS text pidgin | 19:23 |
| silverlightning | KM0201: this usually works here to, but not with this install | 19:23 |
| wxl | (thus the name) | 19:23 |
| silverlightning | I need a brake | 19:24 |
| KM0201 | silverlightning: i don't know, like i said, i can lead you to water, but i'm not gonna drown you. | 19:24 |
| wxl | what kind, silverlightning ? disc? hydraulic? | 19:24 |
| bioterror | is finch fixed in ubuntu now | 19:24 |
| silverlightning | lol | 19:24 |
| bioterror | that it wont pull all X11 packages | 19:24 |
| silverlightning | break | 19:24 |
| haemogoblin | just installing finch and w3m now | 19:25 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 19:25 |
| haemogoblin | this should be fun | 19:25 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 19:25 |
| haemogoblin | btw control-alt-f1 put you in terminal right? | 19:25 |
| haemogoblin | How the heck do you exit out of it? | 19:26 |
| wxl | ctrl-alt-f7 | 19:26 |
| KM0201 | um... .f7 | 19:26 |
| KM0201 | woops | 19:26 |
| wxl | that technically is virtual terminal | 19:26 |
| KM0201 | console.. | 19:26 |
| wxl | ctrl-alt-t is terminal | 19:26 |
| wxl | (lxterminal) | 19:26 |
| KM0201 | for some reason, lxterminal always screws up my dual screens | 19:26 |
| KM0201 | have no idea why | 19:26 |
| KM0201 | so i had to install gnome-terminal | 19:26 |
| wxl | ew | 19:27 |
| KM0201 | it's just a terminal, i don't care | 19:27 |
| haemogoblin | the reason i ask is because i did a really stupid thing ealeir.. i was saw the control-alt-f1 thing..Though "ooh cool" pressed it and realised i didn't know how to get out. | 19:27 |
| haemogoblin | Had to reset the damn machine | 19:27 |
| haemogoblin | DOH!! | 19:27 |
| KM0201 | haemogoblin: lol, if you had kept pressing (f2, f3, f4, etc.. ) you'd have gotten new consoles, till you hit 7, then you'd have been back at your desktop | 19:27 |
| haemogoblin | right let me just try that | 19:28 |
| haemogoblin | brb | 19:28 |
| haemogoblin | WOOOHOO | 19:28 |
| haemogoblin | i'm back | 19:28 |
| KM0201 | lol | 19:28 |
| haemogoblin | well that was exciting | 19:28 |
| haemogoblin | God i'm easily pleased | 19:28 |
| haemogoblin | :P | 19:28 |
| wxl | :) | 19:28 |
| haemogoblin | maybe tomorrow i'll find a penny, who knows | 19:29 |
| wxl | and some abc gum | 19:29 |
| haemogoblin | :) | 19:29 |
| haemogoblin | i thought w3m showed images? | 19:31 |
| wxl | it should | 19:31 |
| haemogoblin | its not showing anything on google | 19:31 |
| haemogoblin | :/ | 19:31 |
| haemogoblin | nope | 19:33 |
| haemogoblin | just had a play and it's not showing anything | 19:33 |
| haemogoblin | hmm | 19:33 |
| wxl | working on it | 19:33 |
| haemogoblin | ok | 19:34 |
| wxl | ohhhhhh | 19:35 |
| wxl | there's probably another w3m package compiled with image support | 19:35 |
| wxl | my bad | 19:35 |
| wxl | sorry i actually prefer bells and whistles and use firefox | 19:36 |
| * wxl ain't totally cli-only | 19:36 | |
| wxl | http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/w3m | 19:37 |
| wxl | see that it recommends w3m-img | 19:37 |
| wxl | make sure you have that | 19:37 |
| haemogoblin | one sec | 19:37 |
| haemogoblin | :) | 19:37 |
| haemogoblin | thanks | 19:37 |
| wxl | btw i linked this last night but did you guys see the latest xkcd? http://xkcd.com/963/ | 19:38 |
| wxl | THAT made me laugh | 19:40 |
| wxl | should change that to /usr/share/applications :D | 19:41 |
| KM0201 | lmao | 19:45 |
| KM0201 | thats pretty funny | 19:45 |
| wxl | right? i love xkcd | 19:45 |
| wxl | this is a favorite that would make sense to most irssi users regardless of bitlbee experience http://www.bitlbee.org/img/comic_3.0.png | 19:46 |
| KM0201 | http://xkcd.com/958/ | 19:47 |
| wxl | hehehe | 19:48 |
| haemogoblin | apparently people are having trouble getting w3m to work showing images | 19:48 |
| wxl | the one on the >c neutrinos was funny | 19:49 |
| haemogoblin | you need to install rxvt | 19:49 |
| wxl | wow that's lame | 19:49 |
| haemogoblin | what is rxvt? | 19:50 |
| wxl | another terminal | 19:50 |
| wxl | slimmed down xterm | 19:50 |
| haemogoblin | i thought so | 19:50 |
| bioterror | urxvt > * | 19:50 |
| haemogoblin | ahh | 19:51 |
| haemogoblin | i have discovered something else | 19:51 |
| haemogoblin | virtual terminal? ctr-alt-f1 | 19:51 |
| haemogoblin | if i try w3m through there, it works | 19:52 |
| wxl | weird | 19:52 |
| wxl | extremely weird | 19:52 |
| wxl | that's unexpected | 19:52 |
| haemogoblin | so something about using the terminal through the GUI, throws it out | 19:52 |
| haemogoblin | :S | 19:52 |
| wxl | well at least you have a new project now :D | 19:53 |
| haemogoblin | yeah | 19:53 |
| haemogoblin | i just dont know how to quit w3m | 19:54 |
| wxl | try u try ctrl-c? | 19:54 |
| KM0201-NAS | ok, i'll try irssi | 19:55 |
| KM0201-NAS | lol | 19:55 |
| haemogoblin | nope | 19:55 |
| haemogoblin | it didn't work | 19:56 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 19:56 |
| KM0201 | if you're in more than one channel, how do you switch in irssi? | 19:56 |
| wxl | ctrl-x KM0201 but i don't remember if that's something i set up or not | 19:56 |
| KM0201-NAS | oh ait, i seee... alt+1,2 ,3.." | 19:56 |
| haemogoblin | brb | 19:56 |
| wxl | i have so tweaked my config it's not even funny | 19:56 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 19:56 |
| wxl | even *I* don't remember how to do it | 19:57 |
| wxl | haemogoblin: press q | 19:57 |
| === M-n-M is now known as MnM | ||
| KM0201 | someone say my name here as a test | 19:57 |
| wxl | KM0201: | 19:57 |
| KM0201-NAS | hmm, it seems the channel #s change colors when someone says your name (which is fine) | 19:58 |
| KM0201 | KM0201 | 19:58 |
| wxl | i've tweaked it so that it offers a bell too | 19:58 |
| KM0201 | KM0201-NAS: test | 19:59 |
| KM0201-NAS | hmm | 19:59 |
| KM0201-NAS | now did you do that? | 19:59 |
| KM0201-NAS | cuz i have xchat set up for an audible alert as well | 19:59 |
| wxl | /set bell_beeps ON | 20:00 |
| MnM | hello, i need step-by-step guide of how to move my /home folder to another partition........... any good links (i've googled some but i can't understand them) | 20:00 |
| wxl | make sure HILIGHT is included in /set bell_beep_msg_level (run it once to see how it's set up) | 20:00 |
| KM0201 | KM0201-NAS: test | 20:00 |
| KM0201 | KM0201-NAS: test | 20:00 |
| KM0201 | hmm, i don't hear anything | 20:00 |
| KM0201 | or do i need to restart irssi? | 20:01 |
| wxl | might be you doing it | 20:01 |
| wxl | KM0201-NAS | 20:01 |
| wxl | oh he left | 20:01 |
| KM0201 | yeah, hold on | 20:01 |
| KM0201 | was restarting irssi, to see if that was the issue | 20:02 |
| wxl | (i ignore quits and joins.. too much bullshit) | 20:02 |
| KM0201 | hehe | 20:02 |
| KM0201 | KM0201-NAS: test | 20:02 |
| KM0201 | hmm, no didn't hear anything out of xchat | 20:03 |
| wxl | KM0201-NAS: now? | 20:03 |
| KM0201 | no | 20:03 |
| KM0201 | you know what | 20:03 |
| wxl | that's weird | 20:03 |
| KM0201 | i just thought of why this is. | 20:03 |
| wxl | ? | 20:03 |
| KM0201 | i'm SSH'd into my server. | 20:03 |
| wxl | ah ha | 20:03 |
| KM0201 | if i had speakers on my server, the sound is probably local | 20:03 |
| wxl | turn the volume up on the NAS ;D | 20:03 |
| KM0201 | lol | 20:03 |
| KM0201 | eh, i'll figure that one out later | 20:04 |
| wxl | you on lxterminal ssh'ing? | 20:04 |
| wxl | cuz if you are open prefs and click audible bell | 20:04 |
| wxl | might have been obvious but...... ;) | 20:04 |
| KM0201 | naa, i'm using gnome-terminal | 20:05 |
| KM0201 | and terminal bell is enabled | 20:05 |
| KM0201 | lxterminal causes unusual behavior on my desktop | 20:06 |
| wxl | you said that | 20:07 |
| * wxl ain't paying attention | 20:07 | |
| wxl | 'tis odd, that | 20:07 |
| KM0201 | wxl: http://imagebin.org/178677 | 20:07 |
| KM0201 | it only happens on my PC (which is dual screens).. but when ever i open a terminal | 20:08 |
| === slow-motion_ is now known as slow-motion | ||
| KM0201 | it opens up a huge black blotch in the upper left of the left monitor | 20:08 |
| haemogoblin | i can't seem to quit w3m from the virtual terminal | 20:08 |
| KM0201 | if i drag windows over it like you would in "paint"... they disappear. | 20:08 |
| haemogoblin | :/ | 20:08 |
| wxl | Q haemogoblin | 20:08 |
| KM0201 | yup | 20:08 |
| haemogoblin | just Q | 20:08 |
| haemogoblin | not shift? | 20:08 |
| haemogoblin | ctr-q | 20:08 |
| wxl | no shit | 20:08 |
| wxl | just q | 20:08 |
| wxl | just the ltter q | 20:08 |
| haemogoblin | lol | 20:09 |
| haemogoblin | ok | 20:09 |
| KM0201 | lol | 20:09 |
| wxl | nothing else | 20:09 |
| KM0201 | absolutely nothing else | 20:09 |
| KM0201 | just Q | 20:09 |
| haemogoblin | cheers that works | 20:09 |
| KM0201 | not alt q, not shift q, not tab Q, insert q, end q, home q, page down q | 20:09 |
| haemogoblin | is there an reason why my virtual terminal isn't filling the screen? | 20:09 |
| KM0201 | anyway, wxl did you see that screenshot of my prob? | 20:09 |
| wxl | hahahahahha whwat about qq? | 20:10 |
| KM0201 | lol | 20:10 |
| wxl | sorry KM0201 waiting on chrome to load | 20:10 |
| wxl | 256mb ram does have its faults | 20:10 |
| KM0201 | it only happens on my dual screen PC.. the "single display PC".. and a laptop, it works fine | 20:10 |
| KM0201 | so the pc, i just use gnome-terminal | 20:10 |
| KM0201 | yeah th image is kinda huge | 20:10 |
| KM0201 | i thnk its 2700x1200 or something | 20:11 |
| haemogoblin | virtual terminal is taking up only a quarter of the top left of the screen and the rest is just black | 20:11 |
| wxl | oh and i forget that i'm running in a vm and that vm is limited to 70% processor and i have TONS of stuff on my actual desktop not tomention the os here is windows which we all know is freaking BLOATWARE | 20:11 |
| wxl | try clear haemogoblin ? | 20:11 |
| KM0201 | lol | 20:11 |
| haemogoblin | WinBlows | 20:11 |
| KM0201 | when are you gonna install lubuntu as a dual boot? | 20:11 |
| wxl | work computer | 20:12 |
| wxl | not my choice | 20:12 |
| KM0201 | meh, good point | 20:12 |
| wxl | the vm is there so i can feel some level of sanity :D | 20:12 |
| haemogoblin | tried it just now | 20:12 |
| KM0201 | tried what | 20:12 |
| haemogoblin | using the clear command | 20:12 |
| KM0201 | oh yeah, it's useful | 20:12 |
| haemogoblin | the prompt starts at the top of the screen | 20:12 |
| haemogoblin | but say i do a DIR | 20:13 |
| KM0201 | what do you mean? | 20:13 |
| wxl | KM0201: his tty/virtual terminal is only filling a portion of his screen | 20:13 |
| KM0201 | oh | 20:14 |
| KM0201 | i have no idea on that one | 20:14 |
| haemogoblin | yes | 20:14 |
| KM0201 | i don't use TTY that ofte | 20:14 |
| haemogoblin | correct | 20:14 |
| wxl | btw KM0201 that image is weird | 20:14 |
| wxl | i'm not much of a tty user either | 20:14 |
| haemogoblin | oh well i'll google it | 20:14 |
| wxl | if i'm gonna go that route i'll just not have a desktop environement | 20:14 |
| haemogoblin | see if i can find a solution | 20:14 |
| haemogoblin | well tbh i wouldn't mind being able to boot in to the prompt occasionally | 20:15 |
| haemogoblin | so i can go on irssi and alpine without need of the gui | 20:15 |
| wxl | haemogoblin: you should remember you do have others | 20:15 |
| KM0201 | wxl: yeah, like i said, i tonly happens when i open lxterminal, on my dual screen machine | 20:15 |
| wxl | you have tty1-6 | 20:15 |
| wxl | KM0201: have you dropped that on the lxde folks? | 20:15 |
| KM0201 | wxl: naa | 20:15 |
| wxl | you might want to | 20:16 |
| haemogoblin | ttyl-6? | 20:16 |
| wxl | tty 1-6 | 20:16 |
| KM0201 | it's done it for as long as i've used lxde (at least 6-7mo).. it's nt a huge deal, like i said, i just use gnome-terminal. | 20:16 |
| wxl | meaning you have more than one | 20:16 |
| KM0201 | wxl: i imagine others have had that problem. i can't imagine i'm the only one | 20:16 |
| wxl | try ctrl-alt-f1,2,3,4,5,6 | 20:16 |
| haemogoblin | ooh | 20:17 |
| wxl | yeah well i think for lubuntu to really do its job well it should have shit like that figured out | 20:17 |
| KM0201 | wxl: well, it doesn't do it on my other PC, or on my laptop. | 20:17 |
| KM0201 | so... i can only assume it's something to do w/ my dual screens | 20:17 |
| wxl | with dual monitors tho? | 20:17 |
| wxl | yeah see that's what i'm saying | 20:17 |
| wxl | and i will tell you dual monitor setups are pretty common place among the linux users i know | 20:18 |
| KM0201 | yeahm they are | 20:19 |
| wxl | is there something like gnome-system-monitor we could be using to watch memory usage? | 20:23 |
| haemogoblin | i wish there was a way to throttle back this system fan | 20:24 |
| haemogoblin | it's giving me a headache | 20:24 |
| KM0201 | wxl: task manager... menu/system tools | 20:24 |
| KM0201 | there's also a panel applet. | 20:24 |
| wxl | haemogoblin: probably is but not necessarily without detrimental circumstances | 20:24 |
| haemogoblin | yeah | 20:24 |
| wxl | there's a panel applet for memory? | 20:24 |
| KM0201 | yes. | 20:24 |
| wxl | i found the one for cpu | 20:24 |
| haemogoblin | i've ordered a new silent fan | 20:24 |
| haemogoblin | hoping it will fix it | 20:25 |
| haemogoblin | I have to mini itx boards | 20:25 |
| haemogoblin | Epia m10000 | 20:25 |
| bioterror | wxl, free -m | 20:25 |
| wxl | yeah there's all that | 20:25 |
| wxl | i was hoping for something visual | 20:25 |
| haemogoblin | and the MSI fuzzy thats inside this machine | 20:25 |
| wxl | like the cpu panel applet | 20:25 |
| wxl | what's the name of the memory applet? | 20:25 |
| bioterror | wxl, take LSD and say free -m in terminal :D | 20:25 |
| KM0201 | hmm, ther was one, i guess its gone now | 20:26 |
| KM0201 | i remember it specifically | 20:26 |
| bioterror | htop shows nice bars and what ever you want | 20:27 |
| bioterror | but it just doesnt tell you the "truth" | 20:27 |
| wxl | htop yeah | 20:27 |
| wxl | forgot about that | 20:27 |
| wxl | but what do you mean about the truth? | 20:27 |
| wxl | doesn't show root processes? | 20:27 |
| bioterror | compare it to free -m, and you will see | 20:27 |
| haemogoblin | i'm i better doing a search for ttyl or virtual terminal if i'm looking for a fix for the screen size issue? | 20:28 |
| wxl | tty or "virtual terminal" | 20:28 |
| haemogoblin | thanks | 20:28 |
| haemogoblin | :D | 20:28 |
| bioterror | what screen size issues? | 20:28 |
| wxl | bioterror: after playing with w3m his tty only filled up a fraction of the screen | 20:30 |
| bioterror | oh well, w3m is horrible if you compare it to elinks | 20:30 |
| wxl | oh? | 20:31 |
| wxl | i thought it was just elinks with extra shit | 20:31 |
| haemogoblin | bioterror: in virtual terminal | 20:31 |
| haemogoblin | the text of the terminal only uses about a quarter of the entire screen | 20:31 |
| haemogoblin | it's like having a console window open in the GUI and having the space to the right and bottom just empty | 20:32 |
| haemogoblin | i dont know if it's meant to look like that | 20:32 |
| haemogoblin | i would have thought a full screen terminal would take up, the fullscreen :/ | 20:33 |
| haemogoblin | so i'm doing a search | 20:33 |
| KM0201 | bioterror: do you know of an app that will view pictures on a UPNP server? | 20:34 |
| bioterror | xbmc for example? | 20:34 |
| KM0201 | well, xbmc is a bit overkill for just pics | 20:34 |
| wxl | can't scrot take a screenshot of your tty session? | 20:35 |
| bioterror | isnt upnp overkill for pics ;) | 20:35 |
| bioterror | wxl, no it cannot | 20:35 |
| bioterror | scrot is a x11 program | 20:35 |
| KM0201 | well, thats a good point | 20:35 |
| wxl | aw that's a bummer | 20:35 |
| bioterror | you can use snapscreenshot | 20:35 |
| KM0201 | snapscreenshot? | 20:35 |
| bioterror | yes | 20:35 |
| KM0201 | not in the repos. | 20:36 |
| bioterror | http://ricecows.org/snap.png from my desktop computer | 20:36 |
| KM0201 | hmm, i dont' think thats gonna do what i want | 20:37 |
| KM0201 | basically (similar to rhythmbox)... i want to enable a service, open up some graphics app, and it detect the share. | 20:37 |
| bioterror | use samba and what ever you want? | 20:38 |
| bioterror | or nfs | 20:38 |
| KM0201 | yeah, i think samba is gonna be the only solution | 20:38 |
| haemogoblin | brb | 20:38 |
| KM0201 | back in a bit folks, later | 20:40 |
| haemogoblin | hey | 21:14 |
| haemogoblin | back | 21:14 |
| haemogoblin | :) | 21:14 |
| haemogoblin | anyone know how to disable overscan? | 21:19 |
| haemogoblin | my desktop has suddenly started stretching itself :/ | 21:20 |
| haemogoblin | so the taskbar vanishes off screen | 21:20 |
| haemogoblin | anyone around? | 21:49 |
| wxl | here but i can't help you with that problem aforementioned | 21:51 |
| wxl | neither of them to be frank | 21:51 |
| haemogoblin | what the stretched screen? | 21:53 |
| haemogoblin | it's weird | 21:53 |
| haemogoblin | i rebooted | 21:53 |
| haemogoblin | and not the left side of the screen is off screen | 21:54 |
| haemogoblin | it's there when i boot in to the gui, but then the screen flickers | 21:54 |
| haemogoblin | and suddenly it all shifts | 21:54 |
| bioterror | laptop or desktop computer? | 21:55 |
| haemogoblin | desktop | 21:56 |
| haemogoblin | i dont know if i've installed something | 21:56 |
| haemogoblin | but i'm really worried now | 21:56 |
| haemogoblin | i dont want to reinstall | 21:56 |
| bioterror | make a xorg.conf with forced resolution? | 21:57 |
| haemogoblin | i've had to reposition the taskbar down the right of the screen just to i can get to the menu's | 21:57 |
| haemogoblin | if i put it along the bottom it goes off screen | 21:57 |
| haemogoblin | So all i have is the clock ect | 21:57 |
| bioterror | it's 1am and I made today ~12h workday | 21:59 |
| bioterror | so I dont have much patience to guide | 21:59 |
| haemogoblin | oh well reinstall i guess | 22:00 |
| haemogoblin | :( | 22:00 |
| bioterror | stop lxdm | 22:00 |
| bioterror | sudo Xorg -configure | 22:00 |
| bioterror | sudo mv org.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 22:00 |
| bioterror | and add | 22:00 |
| bioterror | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds#Screen_resolution_is_wrong.2C_no_matter_what_I_do.21.21 | 22:01 |
| bioterror | there's some information | 22:01 |
| bioterror | so much for the help | 22:02 |
| haemogoblin | i fixed it | 22:13 |
| haemogoblin | i reinstalled xorg | 22:13 |
| haemogoblin | :) | 22:13 |
| haemogoblin | thanks for the help tho | 22:13 |
| haemogoblin | just wanted to come on and thank you, now i'm of to bed | 22:13 |
| haemogoblin | laters | 22:13 |
| silverlightning | hi | 22:24 |
| silverlightning | I reinstalled lubuntu | 22:27 |
| silverlightning | made a mess of packages | 22:27 |
| silverlightning | but now I have no sound | 22:28 |
| silverlightning | I have checked Alsamixer | 22:28 |
| silverlightning | all parameters are on full | 22:28 |
| bioterror | and nothing is muted? | 22:29 |
| silverlightning | several of them are MM and a few 00 | 22:30 |
| silverlightning | I cannot change the setting | 22:30 |
| silverlightning | I have tried highlighting and press tab or enter | 22:30 |
| silverlightning | I always have so daft problems | 22:32 |
| silverlightning | everything is checked, stuff is on | 22:32 |
| bioterror | M changes them muted or not-muted | 22:32 |
| silverlightning | I have beep when bios boot | 22:32 |
| silverlightning | aha | 22:32 |
| wxl | beep != sound | 22:33 |
| bioterror | meep meep | 22:33 |
| bioterror | remember to alsactl -f save, when you have it fixed | 22:34 |
| bioterror | with SUDO POWERS! | 22:34 |
| silverlightning | thanks | 22:35 |
| silverlightning | !! | 22:35 |
| silverlightning | ; ) | 22:35 |
| silverlightning | working | 22:35 |
| silverlightning | hmm | 22:41 |
| silverlightning | anyone clever with terminal and apt-get? | 22:55 |
| wxl | shhh the baby's sleeping | 23:58 |
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