[00:00] however i have no sound [00:00] on system at all? [00:00] I have been in alsamixer and all parameters are on top [00:00] some are 00 some are MM [00:00] ? [00:00] this is a newly installed 11.10 [00:00] today [00:02] hmm [00:02] I could make a picture [00:02] you can try adjusting all the volume meters up on alsamixer [00:02] see if that helps [00:03] if that doesn't help, find your sound device by typing lspci in a terminal [00:03] http://imagebin.org/178584 [00:03] all parameters are up in alsamixer [00:03] I mean meters [00:04] ok [00:04] lspci [00:05] http://imagebin.org/178585 [00:06] not sure if that made any sense ? [00:06] ok [00:07] sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol [00:08] in buntus it usually has worked by default, with simple alsamixer adjusting [00:09] well, all i can tell you, is my problem is resolved w/ pulseaudio (have the same problem when i first install) [00:11] maybe I need a restart? [00:11] after you install pulseaudio you will, but.. you an try restarting and see if that fixes it before installing pulseaudio (but i wouldn't get your hopes up) [00:13] hmm [00:13] is this a bug thing+ [00:13] ? [00:13] brb reboot [00:14] no [00:14] no? [00:14] oh yes [00:14] pulse audio apparently isn't installed by default w/ lubuntu (in favor of alsamixer) [00:14] maybe just audio card issues [00:15] you can reboot, but its not a bug. [00:15] just reboot, and when that doesn't fix the problem, install pulseaudio [00:15] alsamixer has always worked though [00:15] well, you are using the beta,.. [00:23] no sound [00:23] I think trouble is the MM [00:23] How can I install Ubuntu software center in Lubuntu? [00:23] I usually have most of them on 00 [00:23] And I have a friend who is having issues using WIFI in Medion Laptop -.- [00:24] ibis, package manager is not enough? [00:24] Ibis: its in synaptic.. search for "software center".. i think its called "ubuntusoftwarecenter" not sure though [00:24] no sound at all [00:24] silverlightning: It's not for me, It's to "easy-mode" some things for a linux newbie. [00:24] oh, sound is on [00:24] !! [00:24] I prefer installing things with apt-get. [00:24] Ibis: sudo apt-get install software-center i just checked, its there [00:25] well, terminal works [00:25] Sweet KM0201. [00:25] Ibis: my point was, use synaptic to find the package.. it's a lot easier to search w/ synaptic, than apt [00:25] Okay. [00:26] Gawd, this is really dumb for me to mention anything of my friend's issue. It's basically an "IT DONT WORK" sorta thing -.- Which isn't helping. [00:27] whats wrong? [00:27] He for some reason can not get onto the internet with his laptop. Via, wifi. [00:28] whats his wifi device? [00:28] i'm gonna guess broadcom or ralink [00:28] That's what I'm trying to get out of him, but he logged off. [00:28] He's all frustrated with no internet. [00:29] i can imagine, but just saying "it won't work" wont' help [00:29] broadcom needs activation of additional drivers, [00:29] at least often [00:29] silverlightning: sometimes [00:29] and reboot lol [00:29] He doesn't even know his computer module. [00:29] Model. [00:30] ralink usually work straight away [00:30] Only that it says Medion. [00:30] well, just tell hin to type lspci in a terminal, find the wireless line, and tell us what it says [00:30] should be a sticker under? [00:30] or something written some where [00:30] silverlightning: depends, some ralinks work fine, others, are a pain. [00:30] I see [00:30] I might have been lucky then [00:31] though I have a usb dongle not working at all, have no idea what chip is [00:31] I asked for that, I get no good feedback. [00:31] then don't worry about it.. you can't help him if he won't help you [00:31] after hours of driver search, I went out and bought a new wireless [00:31] much easier [00:32] Oh well, too bad, now he's going back to windows. At least one other friend is staying on linux. [00:33] lol [00:33] buntus happily exist alongside windows [00:33] often at least [00:35] there are some incompatibilities popping up now and then === M0hi is now known as IamNotThatGuy [01:09] why do links get highlighted in lxterminal but they're not clickable or rather they can be clicked but nothing happens? [01:10] oh have you marked off and pressed tab? [01:10] hah say what? :D [01:10] that one is stricky until you figure it out [01:11] but really very simple [01:11] I know right!? I've actually tried to click, nothing ever happens. [01:11] mark of with mouse [01:11] then press tab [01:11] so mouse-over you mean silverlightning ? [01:11] the arrow key up in left corner [01:12] wtf [01:12] what arrow key? :D [01:12] OH [01:12] yes, just highlight the "OK" or "accept" or what ever, then tab [01:12] wait i think i get it now [01:12] old fashion tab [01:12] nope don't get it [01:12] i'm dumb [01:12] pisses me off tho [01:12] http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/o/om/omironia/394281_tab_key.jpg [01:13] if only i could click on that :D [01:13] very simple [01:13] what? [01:13] you know what tab is? [01:13] uh [01:13] yes [01:14] so that doesn't really work [01:14] it is a key (one single) with two arrows pointing in two directions [01:14] i know what the tab key is silly [01:14] lol [01:14] sorry [01:14] but i don't have a clue what that has to do with hyperlinks [01:14] hey, what are you doing in terminal? [01:15] ssh'ing to a server and running bitlbee+irssi in it [01:15] hmm [01:15] nothing regular works? [01:15] well if by regular you mean click on the link, no [01:15] not tab, not enter, not y? [01:16] ok let's say you want me to go to http://google.com [01:16] i mouse over it [01:16] it gets highlighted [01:16] i get the little finder pointer [01:16] i click [01:16] nothing [01:16] hmm [01:16] can you middle click? [01:17] hm not so easily with a touchpad [01:17] of not double click [01:17] you know, right and left click at ones [01:17] right opens context menu [01:17] old terminals had to be maneuvered like that [01:17] left does nothing [01:17] hmm [01:18] but both at the same time [01:18] don't have a middle [01:18] right AND left [01:18] hmmmmm not sure that will be super easy because i touch-click to right click [01:18] yeah i can't imagine how to do that [01:19] highlight, then press two mousepad buttons simultaneously [01:19] ii only have one button [01:19] i touch-click to right click [01:19] I see [01:19] hm [01:20] ah ha [01:20] got it [01:20] ctrl-left click [01:20] stuck in terminal [01:20] should have known [01:20] thank god [01:20] lol [01:21] you really have to get inventive when you are on alternative hardware [01:21] there's usually a way about it [01:21] NO SHIT <:D [01:21] ; ) [01:21] well what's funny is it's not half as bad as when, a good decade or so ago, i tried to get slackware on a thinkpad [01:22] back then only the brave and stupid bothered with linux and laptops from what i could gather :O [01:22] frankly i'm pretty darn happy with the way my powerbook is running ocelot [01:22] I am rather happy with the latest 11.10 issue [01:23] last friday's was a mess [01:23] or maybe my install [01:23] for whatever reason natty was funky. very very very very very slow. [01:23] possibly [01:23] I think it was a but, I read others had the same issues, in crash reports [01:23] my iso is pretty old (30 sept i think) [01:23] a bug* [01:23] but now it's all updated and upgraded and everything [01:24] seems to me that the installer is where the real issues are [01:24] very slow, then something is woring [01:24] like driver, or hard ware issues [01:24] i still would like to figure out some sort of flash solution but that's a ppc problem, not lubuntu [01:24] yeah, i think it was processor scaling [01:24] first it ran really hot and i managed to calm it down, but i think that just made it all draggy [01:25] out of the box, ocelot is perfect [01:26] what were your problems? [01:26] do you have firefox [01:26] ? [01:26] yep [01:26] it has a great addon, flash replacer [01:26] or flash video replacer [01:26] currently on 7.0.1 [01:27] oh? [01:27] plays youtube, and some flash streams, [01:27] and no adobe flash [01:27] and then there's html5 [01:27] i'm using gnash right now [01:27] I mean as alternative to flash [01:27] gnash works fine? [01:27] it's .. um .. well .. somewhat functional [01:28] i wonder if i can get compiz going on this bad boy :D [01:29] (kind of kidding.. it's antithetical to the very purpose of having lubuntu) [01:29] you might [01:30] what do you use for email? [01:30] so far only pidgin [01:30] or direct in browser [01:31] i have too many email accounts for that [01:31] I haven't configed anything yet [01:31] I installed 11.10 today [01:31] i'm tempted to just run thunderbird but the thought of something more lightweight is attractive [01:31] had major issues with mplayer gecko [01:31] and tured out to be a silly setting [01:31] like hours of fuzz [01:32] very true [01:32] default is sylfeed [01:32] some like it a lot [01:33] i spent DAYS trying to get that installer going because it was trying to download from "mirror" instead of "ports.ubuntu.com" [01:33] eventually figured out doing a little creative editing in /etc/hosts could clean it up [01:34] as for sylpheed, it seems tolerable but it doesn't have like a unified inbox if you know what i mea [01:34] +n [01:34] hmm, not sure [01:37] seamonkey might have an email client [01:38] if I remember correctly [01:38] yeah it does [01:38] basically thunderbird more or less [01:40] hahahahah [01:40] I see [01:40] claws? [01:40] apparently it's the same as claws mail [01:40] it has the same "about" at least :D [01:41] http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/General_Information#What_are_the_differences_between_Claws_Mail_and_Sylpheed.3F [01:42] I find what we like depends very much on habit [01:42] yep [01:42] just give it a go for three weeks and your can happily live with it [01:42] wonder what opera has [01:42] yeah i think you're right [01:42] i'll just set it up and see where i get annoyed [01:43] or rather if [01:43] thought, it is worth trying different stuff [01:45] i might end up using thunderbird+muttator just because i like the vim-ish keybindings [01:46] one thing missing in sylpheed, it doesn't have spell check I think unless it has been added lately [01:46] there use to be something called pine [01:46] or alpine [01:46] hmm [01:46] doesn't bother me none [01:46] yeah it's particularly frustrating to deal with when moving messages to folders in gmail imap [01:48] thunderbird isn't bad, as long as you don't get lag on your pad [01:49] I am a bit slow to use new functions, and sort of need sometime to figure out how to go about stuff [01:50] I was hoping there was skype in pidgin, but doesn't look like it [01:50] yeah nope [01:50] skype sucks [01:51] if you don't care about communicating specifically through skype, there are some nice voip apps [01:54] voip? [01:54] voice over internet protocol [01:55] I mostly on skype because some I know are [01:55] yeah just have them switch :D [01:55] (i know that doesn't work) [01:55] lol [01:55] needs a workaround [01:56] I figuring how to apt-get youtube dl [01:56] I use to have it [01:56] but it's not in package manager [01:57] do u just use skype for chat? [01:57] like not voice? [01:58] yes, mostly chat [01:58] voice has happened [01:59] i think there's skype support in bitlbee now but that's a whole different ball of way [01:59] wax [01:59] I see [02:00] I usually end up with something [02:00] either msn or skype [02:00] would be nice to have everything in pigin [02:00] agreed [02:00] that's why i like bitlbee [02:00] I think skype would have been added to pidgin if they allowed it [02:01] but instead of being irc in im it's im in irc [02:01] * silverlightning googeling bitlbee [02:01] i love it but i'll warn you-- i'm very comfortable with the command line and living in text mode [02:02] terminal horror [02:02] lol [02:02] heh [02:02] I am no good with terminal [02:02] i ran finch (the ncurses version of pidgin) for a good long while [02:03] I find a guide some where; copy, paste, see what happens [02:03] what' nice about it especially in im is i can have it running on an always-on server and use tmux (like screen if you know what that is) to always be on even when afk and not use resources on it [02:03] careful with that or you'll end up with a frankenmachine [02:04] I often do [02:04] heheheh [02:04] a new install is sometimes only remedy [02:04] they often last until next issue though [02:05] I'm not that difficult with my os really [02:05] however I do install a lot of junk to get medias to work, like streams, tv, restricted [02:06] I still haven't checked if DVD works [02:08] python is runniing all super hot all of a sudden [02:08] weird [02:09] you need a parcel tongue [02:09] hah [02:10] there is that guy [02:11] I'm off to bed [02:11] night man [02:11] be well [02:11] see you anther day ; ) [02:12] you too [02:12] I shall deal with DVD tomorrow [02:13] what's wrong w/ DVD? [02:16] ok, testing one [02:16] my head is mush [02:18] KM0201: gnome reluctently reads [02:18] never finishes loading [02:18] did you install libdvdcss? [02:18] oh, and it works [02:18] !! [02:18] must hve [02:19] even menus work [02:19] must have been the medibuntu stuff [04:17] Hi all [04:18] Guys I have a netbook (Acer D02553). Last week I got Lubuntu installed on it, also installed the restricted extras so I could watch youtube videos but now I can not adjust my volume... If I click the speaker icon in my task bar it says that no audio devices were found or that there are dependancies missing from gstreamer. But if I sudo apt-get check GStreamer it checks out. what am I doing wrong?? [04:18] Hi PsyCl0ne [04:18] Sorry M0hi [04:19] Lubuntu 11.10 ? [04:20] Check alsamixer too [04:22] does your flash video have it's own volume control ? [04:25] Sorry Im at work atm... Vidoes do have volume if I connect external speakers [04:25] and alsa mixer? and correct this is the latest Lubuntu [04:27] alasmixer does see my sound card and I can adjust volume from in there [04:28] Although, how would I get that widget working again? [04:29] Actually scrap that I previously had sound, now I have none at all [04:31] If anyone is still here is there a possibility that the flash installer could have uninstalled something that is needed for Lubuntu sound? [04:33] I doubt it PsyCl0ne [04:33] I am not familiar enough with the apps lubuntu uses [04:33] but flash is a single lib [04:34] Well its more the restricted extras [04:34] /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [04:35] I dont know what thats supposed to be exactly... [04:36] Im still kind of new to linux... [04:58] https://www.xkcd.com/963/ [05:11] hey guys if I run sudo /sbin/alsa reload I get this output http://pastebin.com/1JU5Euw5 what have I dont to my system lol [05:16] hi, when will Lubuntu 11.10 will be officially released? i heard 9 october but no so [05:18] ? [05:21] what is the MININUM ram requirement of lubuntu? will it run smoothly in 256 Mb RAM? [05:25] PsyCl0ne: You said it had problems detecting your device, what does sudo aplay -l output? That's a terminal command [05:25] munikar: It will be out the 13th [05:25] that means tomorrow! can't wait to install it [05:26] by the way, will it run smoothly in 256 Mb RAM? [05:26] Depends on how much swap and CPU [05:27] i have a intel motherboard and 2.4 GHz processor [05:27] what's "swap"? [05:27] swap memory on hard disk [05:27] I would think it'd work in that case [05:28] how to create swap memory? can u tell me in brief? [05:28] It's done during the install [05:29] during install by CD or by HD? [05:30] If you're on Lubuntu now, you should already have swap [05:31] no, i'm using win xp. just decided to change into Lubuntu. (Other distros won't work, not even xubuntu) [05:31] When you install Lubuntu, the installer will make it for you [05:32] can we change the size of that swap file? [05:33] You could. Are you going ro keep XP too? [05:33] nah............never [05:34] its goodbye to windows from me forever :) [05:34] Great! If you happen to mess up, nothing wrong :D [05:36] munikar: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=669059&seqNum=2 lubuntu similar [05:37] Heh, 2007 :P [05:38] Unit193: it's about ubuntu, is lubuntu the same way too? [05:38] munikar: As JohnDoe_71Rus said, only a few things have changed in the installer [05:39] yes. just ansver installer [05:39] Ubuntu and Lubuntu use the exact same installer [05:39] ok :) [05:52] isn't there an alternative installer for Lubuntu? :( [05:52] There will be if you wait a few days :P [05:53] there ain't for Lubuntu 11.04 as fas as i know [08:12] Would anyone happen to still be around this early in the morning? [13:54] Can I publish a virtual appliance that I made with lubuntu publicly? [13:58] i don't see why not [14:18] KM0201: I was wondering about the Ubuntu brand maybe [14:18] other than that, everythign should be free, as I see it [14:18] what do you mean?.. [14:18] oh yeah, exactly [14:18] the ubuntu brand--- that could be an issue. [14:18] that is why I am asking [14:18] but.. it shouldn't be an issue to just share a lubuntu virtual appliance [14:19] I mean I did change the standard package selection … but it is all out of the ubuntu repo [14:19] look at how many people rewrite Ubuntu into their own little distro. [14:19] it shouldn't be an issue.. think about it, that's how Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, FluxBuntu, etc.. all came about. [14:49] right, but they have different names, technically [15:03] anyone tried out 11.10 yet [15:07] is it morning anywhere? [15:07] noon here [15:08] its 9 pm here :) [15:08] can't wait to use Lubuntu 11.10 [15:09] i was just asking if anyone has tried the beta [15:09] i think you could download it now [15:09] you just have to keep running your updates [15:10] beta are beta, final is final :) [15:10] no, i'm going to do a fresh install in my old desktop which has xp [15:11] if im not mistaken all you have to do is update beta when it is released and you should be good [15:12] when updating from beta, how much will i have to download? [15:12] no idea [15:12] that's why [15:12] might as well wait for the release i guess [15:12] its tomorrow [15:13] isnt it? [15:13] yup [15:13] im running the ubuntu beta now [15:14] i have ubuntu 11.04 in my laptop, i'm going to install lubuntu in my old desktop with 256mb RAM :) [15:14] i have lubuntu on an old pc [15:14] works like a charm [15:14]