[11:43] <AlanBell> http://blip.tv/alan-bells-ubuntu-stuff/ubuntu-11-10-eyes-free-install-5636087
[11:43] <AlanBell> does that look OK?
[11:43] <AlanBell> and sound OK more importantly
[14:06] <frafu> TheMuso: Hi, Could you please help with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/onboard/+bug/872374/comments/1
[14:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 872374 in onboard "Feature Freeze exception request: new version with GI, gsettings,..." [High,New]
[14:07] <AlanBell> frafu: is that to land on the disk tomorrow?
[14:08] <charlie-tca> AlanBell: we would prefer it be a 0day SRU
[14:08] <AlanBell> never mind, reading the comments now
[14:08] <charlie-tca> That way, it will go in as soon as installs are finished, when updates are run
[14:10] <AlanBell> yeah, I am just concerned about the release note article
[14:10] <frafu> AlanBell: According to the reply by Kate Stewart in the thread, I think not; if I get it right. 
[14:10] <AlanBell> well not "concerned" in a bad way, just want to know whether to mention it
[14:15] <charlie-tca> If we can't make it a 0day, I would think mentioning it is a good thing, since it will get in, and it does fix several bugs
[14:22] <frafu> Should I change the title of the bug to Oneiric-Proposed? If so, should I also delete the debian source I attached to the thread as it has the feature freeze sentence next to the bug number in the debian/changelog?
[15:11] <AlanBell> skaet: ^^
[16:23] <charlie-tca> Isn't magnify broken in Unity now?
[16:31] <maco> the dock doesnt zoom, is all ive seen said on the ml
[16:32] <charlie-tca> Oh, not so bad then
[19:49] <AlanBell> compiz zoom works on the non-unity bits
[19:49] <AlanBell> I think some of the other zoom/mag things might be broken
[19:50] <AlanBell> going to get the release notes blog post pretty much done in the next 4 hours or so
[20:14] <charlie-tca> Great. Also got accessibility mentioned in the final release notes...
[20:16] <charlie-tca> Kate is taking care of us
[20:27] <skaet> AlanBell,  release notes should now be pointing to where your blog is. 
[20:28] <skaet> (or will be rather ;) ) let me know if the location changes.
[20:49] <AlanBell> thanks skaet, the location will be right
[21:13] <TheMuso> smspillaz knows what needs fixing in COmpiz/Unity to make sure the launcher and panel get included in magnification, so we need to make sure it happens for P.
[21:14] <TheMuso> I'll put it in my P notes.
[21:14] <AlanBell> great
[21:15] <AlanBell> I think the trick will be to do that, whilst not also including the launcher in the zoom out for the workspace switcher
[21:15] <TheMuso> Yeah.
[22:38] <AlanBell> just done a longer video on using Unity with orca
[22:38] <AlanBell> with quite a few fails in it
[22:47] <TheMuso> Unity 2d or 3d?
[22:52] <AlanBell> 2d
[22:53] <AlanBell> it stopped reading application button names for a bit
[22:53] <AlanBell> the panel indicators are mostly broken
[23:02] <TheMuso> How so?
[23:07] <AlanBell> doesn't read out the indicator name for everything but the messaging indicator
[23:07] <AlanBell> calendar traps you in the indicator
[23:07] <AlanBell> menu items are all read out as tickboxes when they are not
[23:08] <AlanBell> volume control isn't keyboard adjustable even though it can get focus (and doesn't tell you that you are on it)
[23:08] <AlanBell> http://blip.tv/alan-bells-ubuntu-stuff/using-ubuntu-11-10-with-orca-5638054
[23:08] <AlanBell> oh, video isn't ready yet, blip is still encoding it
[23:09] <AlanBell> just done a video of onboard and found a massive fail in the scanning layout
[23:09] <AlanBell> the return key just presses "e"
[23:42] <TheMuso> Oh yeah the indicator stuff is known, and I plan to fix that for P.
[23:42] <TheMuso> Same with the menus all being check items, even though they aren't.
[23:42] <TheMuso> And yeah, the volume control used to be changeable with arrow keybs, but it seems this was broken.
[23:45] <AlanBell> banshee does some horrible lockups
[23:46] <AlanBell> if you use the sound indicator to do left or right track on a clean install when there are no tracks then it goes into a 100% processor hog mode which throws my laptop into thermal shutdown
[23:51] <AlanBell> right, I think that is all the videos done, and screenshots taken
[23:51] <AlanBell> will make http://pad.ubuntu.com/oneirica11y into a wordpress page with links and embedded stuff tomorrow
[23:52] <AlanBell> feel free to add/remove/edit stuff on there
[23:52] <AlanBell> I am going to add a bit on the themes and the accessibilty settings dialog with large fonts, dwell click etc