[02:43] <kaushal> Hi
[02:43] <kaushal> as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267313
[02:44] <kaushal> whats the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade ?
[08:41] <head_victim> Good old kaushal, asking the same question in 10 different places at once when a quick google gives you more than enough info.
[08:43] <elky> yeah
[08:57] <gorilla> head_victim: Ignore him(??) as going by his(??) ip address he shouldn't be here. :-)
[08:58] <head_victim> gorilla: referring to the email messages I get from other mailing lists, the fact he linked a forum post and from other IRC channels as well 
[08:59] <gorilla> I know.. I had a read of the forum myself. Theres a saying about horses and water.. :-)
[09:02] <head_victim> Tempting to say something in all the different places I've seen him mention it just to show how annoying it can be
[09:04] <sagaci> talking about evva?
[09:04] <head_victim> kaushal
[09:04] <gorilla> heh. "You may also have seen this answer in other places as here, here and here"
[09:04] <sagaci> ah ok, totally unrelated pm then
[09:05] <head_victim> gorilla: the worst thing is I'm sure there would be at least 8 good answers ont he first page of a google search
[09:06] <gorilla> head_victim: yep. the horse and water thing :-)
[10:38] <sagaci> head_victim, so how do you want the poll... ie. just two options, leave time as-is and pull back half an hour?
[11:02] <xannen> so... yay for carbon tax!  lol
[11:13] <gorilla> xannen: now there might be less hot air around.. coming from canberra.
[11:30] <head_victim> sagaci: 3 maybe? 1, leave as is, 2 move 30 mins early, 3 move 60 mins early?
[11:47] <sagaci> on a separate note, would it be beneficial to create a blueprint/wiki page for a roadmap for Ubuntu-AU?
[11:48] <sagaci> for goals, events, mission -- to have some kind of framework to lessen the chance of becoming a dormant team again
[11:55] <head_victim> sagaci: sounds like a reasonable idea to me
[11:57] <sagaci> head_victim, how do you go about creating a wiki page on the u.wiki? I'm logged in..?
[11:58] <head_victim> Just go to the page you want to copy or type in the page you want to start afresh with. If it's on the AU team page I'd suggest looking at the project pages, it has an already formatted page you can copy
[12:16] <sagaci> yeah, I just changed the url part
[12:19] <sagaci> I'm thinking it may be beneficial to hold a sprint or a meeting during the UDS-P, for ubuntu-au roadmap, maybe
[12:25] <head_victim> I don't know anyone going, but we can definitely organise extra IRC meetings to discuss and focus on a roadmap
[12:25] <head_victim> Even if it's just a thread ont he mailing list with collaboration on the blueprint or wiki
[12:28] <sagaci> head_victim, yeah, remote participation, ie. IRC assumed
[12:29] <head_victim> Ah ok, to me UDS is a real person event with some remote participation :)
[12:29] <head_victim> But that could be a flawed assumption
[12:34] <head_victim> Alright, I'm stuffed, this 9 - 5 sucks
[12:36] <sagaci> yeah I see your point but it'll tie in nicely with the main roadmap/developer/sprint/making-of-ubuntu, since it's only a a few weeks time - coincide roughly with this
[12:40] <sagaci> and besides, the "geographicalness" of Australia doesn't really lend itself to having regular developer sprints/face-to-face unless you're living in the city
[13:17] <sagaci> also the wiki needs a clean-up/archive
[13:18] <head_victim> Yeah it was done about 12 months ago or so
[13:19] <head_victim> But on that note I have to crash, nice updates to the wiki/blueprint I got the emails
[13:19] <sagaci> do you just delete stuff or do you archive it
[13:19] <head_victim> Move it all to /Archive
[13:19] <sagaci> righteo then, catchya later
[13:19] <head_victim> If you open up /AustralianTeam/Archive it shuold be pretty obviousa
[13:20] <head_victim> I set that up last time to make it easier and still able to get to but not cluttering up the place
[13:54] <sagaci> also, not trying to wake you up or anything... feel free to unsubscribe email from the bug or a couple of blueprints, I'm pretty sure I set no email to all the ones I could, it's just that the bug for the actual CD ISO l10n is assigned to the -au team, since I thought that was appropriate but I expect for the team to have to slag all the email that goes with it
[13:55] <sagaci> I don't expect **
[13:55] <sagaci> :)
[15:07] <ikt> head_victim: 
[15:07] <ikt> any chance you're awake?
[20:35] <xannen> omg 11.10 not out yet!!  :(
[20:42] <gorilla> xannen: the ready rule applies: Is'd done when it's done.
[20:42] <xannen> sounds like blizzard entertainment.  :P
[20:43] <gorilla> possibly.. but not as bad as Duke Nukem Forever. Should have stayed unreleased.
[20:44] <head_victim> ikt: am now if that helps
[20:45] <xannen> hehe gorilla.
[21:38] <gggs> wierd, gnome's clock shows GMT as "GMT -11", meaning it's -11hrs behind EST