/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/12/#ubuntu-community-team.txt

bkerensamhall119: Awesome ;)00:12
bkerensaWow... I get like 3 e-mails a month of people asking if attending a loco event would be suitable for them since they are not programmers etc00:23
bkerensa=o00:23
bkerensaPeople don't understand that LoCo's are about Community :D00:24
mhall119bkerensa: we get folks that aren't even all that info computers00:27
bkerensa=o00:28
* akgraner is pondering the moral "Familiarity Breeds Contempt"01:01
akgranerand has to admit there are times when I have to fight this - where is jono when I need to apologize to him...01:03
mhall119in London01:14
mhall119either drinking or sleeping at this time of night01:15
mhall119with a small possibility that he's doing both01:15
akgranermhall119, I knew that I was just thinking aloud :-) but thank you...01:16
jcastrohey01:16
jcastroanyone doing anything?01:16
jcastroI have tool porn!01:16
jcastrook that came out wrong01:17
akgranerhahahahahahahahaha01:17
jcastrohttps://trello.com/board/community-team/4e6febfb247e35000000aab101:17
akgranergosh I needed to laugh - thanks jcastro01:17
jcastroamber01:17
jcastrolet's use this01:17
jcastroas a community pin up board.01:17
akgraneroh sweet01:17
jcastroyes01:17
jcastroadd your stuff01:17
akgranerso I need to sign in to use it01:17
jcastroand assign people, etc.01:17
jcastroyeah, I just use my google account01:17
akgranerk01:18
jcastrobut whatever, add stuff01:18
akgranerone sec01:18
jcastrolet's try it!01:18
akgranerjcastro, I'm logged in01:19
=== jcastro changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): OpenWeek, UDS prep, WI's, Blueprints for UDS || dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5"
jcastrook01:19
jcastroadd a few items from your todo list01:19
jcastroand then assign them to yourself01:19
mhall119jcastro: stop showing everyone your porn tool01:20
jcastromhall119: add a few tasks please01:21
jcastroI want to see if using this doesn't suck01:21
akgranerok I am just adding random stuff01:23
akgranerbut I don't see you01:23
jcastroI just invited you01:23
akgraneroh01:23
jcastroyou need to open the Community Team board01:23
jcastroakgraner: also, make an example task01:24
jcastroand assign it to me01:24
jcastroI want to see what happens01:24
akgranerk01:25
akgranerjcastro, I added you to some "doing" items01:27
akgraneroh this may be kinda cool  - can you chat in this tool somewhere01:28
jcastroyou can leave comments on each card01:29
jcastroI think we would chat in here01:29
jcastroand for each card you can leave a comment, or attach things01:29
jcastroI think the voting is for how important people think each card is?01:30
akgranerI like this01:31
jcastroyeah01:31
akgraneryou could have cards and checklist for each project01:31
jcastroRIGHT01:31
akgranerassign people01:31
jcastroand in one glance .... we can see what's going on01:31
jcastroakgraner: let's try to use this for a while, I want to find out if it's useful01:31
jcastroI am investigating email integration01:32
akgranerso those organization wiki pages I created for each ubuntu week that never gets looked at could be turned into a usable item01:32
jcastrobecause I would just send things into this01:32
akgranerCan you copy cards01:32
akgranerlike change the check list for open week to app dev week01:32
akgraneretc01:32
akgranerwe can set those up at UDS or the week after and bam it's all in place01:33
akgranerthen people can pick various tasks and stuff01:33
akgraneror comment on the planning sessions etc01:33
akgranerjcastro, do we need to clear this testing stuff and add actual stuff01:34
akgranerso we can play with it this week and the rest of open week01:34
jcastrothis isn't testing stuff01:34
jcastroI moved my work stuff onto it01:34
jcastrobut right01:34
jcastroyou could just add everything ahead of time in here01:35
akgranernods01:35
jcastroand then we'd know the status of what everyone is doing01:35
jcastroand, the best part is01:35
akgranerthat is cool01:35
jcastroif you're behind, you just unassign yourself01:35
akgranerbets the hell out my huge as spreadsheet01:35
jcastroor if you want to do something, snag a card for yourself01:35
akgraners/as/ass01:35
jcastroyes, yes it does. :)01:35
jcastroit's kind of open ended01:35
jcastrowe can make however many set of lists we want01:36
akgranerI like that - how did you find this tool01:36
jcastroI just thought todo, doing, done, postponed would make sense01:36
* akgraner likes lists01:36
jcastroit was on techcrunch01:36
akgranerand I like that it marks through them01:36
jcastroI like how each todo can have a sublist on the back01:36
jcastrowith little completion percentages01:36
akgranernods01:36
akgranerok  - so do I the ubuntu weeks checklist to community team - the board you invited me too?01:37
jcastroyeah01:37
jcastroI was thinking01:37
jcastrokeep everything on one board01:37
akgranerif I am going to set it up - I might as well do it in the right place01:37
jcastroyeah01:37
akgranerI like it01:37
jcastrolet me look up how to do recurring stuff01:37
akgranerk01:38
jcastrobbias01:39
akgranerk01:40
jcastroakgraner: ah, the little book icon next to the search01:43
jcastrois a help thing01:43
jcastroand then go to the overview01:43
akgranerk01:43
jcastroah, looks like recurring lists are on the roadmap01:44
jcastrojust not implemented01:44
jcastroI gues you could make the list01:44
jcastrothen keep it in doing01:44
jcastroand then when you check them all off01:44
jcastrouncheck them again and do it over?01:44
akgranerfor now yep - a card for each event01:45
akgranerit's not like it's a hard list to copy and past01:45
jcastroor move it from left to right01:45
jcastrothen back to the beginning each time01:45
jcastrohey, assign me a deadline for the blog01:46
jcastrolike, for tomorrow01:46
jcastroto blog about openweek01:46
akgranerk01:47
akgranerjust assigned it to you, but I think I set it as the 13 let me fix that01:48
akgranerfixed - oh that is easy to fix01:50
* akgraner wonders can you link multiple boards - you can with the links function right?01:51
akgranerso let's say I had News Team Board but wanted it to show up on the community board or leadership team etc - we could do that as well right?01:51
akgranerthis way the community team board has links to all the other areas in the community01:52
akgranerproviding teams want to add them there01:52
jcastroyeah01:52
jcastrofor now just put everything on this one board01:52
jcastroto see how it works01:52
jcastrobefore we spread everything out01:53
jcastroalso01:53
jcastroakgraner: check out my handy dandy color coding01:53
akgranerjcastro, you used the labels for that right01:54
jcastroyeah01:54
jcastrogo in the preferences01:54
jcastroand you can name each color01:54
akgranerthat's cool01:56
jcastroah01:57
jcastroakgraner: we can sort the order top to bottom01:57
jcastroakgraner: you don't have any more todos?01:58
jcastrowe need a third person01:58
akgraneryep I have tons of todo's01:58
jcastrocjohnston: are you around?01:59
jcastroakgraner: this is awesome02:03
jcastroakgraner: aha!02:03
jcastroakgraner: so, let me backpedal02:03
jcastromaybe we should create them on seperate boards?02:03
akgranerhehe02:04
akgranersee I told you I had tons of todos02:04
akgranerso here is what I was thinking - (for me anyway)02:04
jcastrook02:05
akgranercreate a News Team Board and a Leadership Team Board02:05
jcastroright02:05
jcastrooh, check it out02:05
jcastroon the top right02:05
jcastroit's trivial to switch between boards02:05
jcastrook, create those two02:05
jcastroI created an "ubuntu" organization02:05
akgranerall the Ubuntu Weeks can go on the Community board or a Classroom Board02:05
jcastroright right02:06
jcastroNICE!02:06
akgraneroh a classroom board would be better for the weeks02:06
jcastroyeah02:06
jcastrolet's just mirror the team structure02:06
jcastrobecause we know what they are already02:06
akgraneryep02:06
jcastroakgraner: ok I had to invite you to the ubuntu org02:07
akgranerok me looks02:07
jcastroyou should be able to create boards in it now02:07
akgranerjcastro, was I supposed to get a new notification?02:09
jcastrodon't know02:10
jcastrosee if you can create a new board02:10
jcastroand add it to ubuntu02:11
akgranerk02:11
jcastrooh oopos02:12
jcastroI didn't actually send the invite, try it now02:12
akgraneryep created 3 new boards02:14
akgranerjcastro, can you see them or do I need to invite/assign you to them02:14
jcastroI think you need to invite me, let me check02:15
akgranerUbuntu Classroom, Ubuntu News Team, Ubuntu Leadership Team02:15
jcastrook I can see your boards02:15
jcastrobut not participate in them02:15
akgranerso to participate I need to assign you to them02:16
jcastroyeah try one02:16
jcastroactually that makes sense02:16
jcastroI can see any of them because I'm in "ubuntu"02:17
jcastrobut the person needs to be put in the right team to add stuff02:17
akgranerI just sent you invites to the ones I created02:18
jcastroyep, in now02:18
akgranercooleo02:19
akgranerHow does it move items from todo -> Doing -> Done02:20
jcastrodrag it02:21
jcastroor hover over it and <- or ->02:21
akgranerahh ok02:21
akgranermakes sense02:21
jcastroah02:21
jcastro, and . are the keyboard shortcuts02:22
akgranerok I never thought I would ask for keyboard shortcuts, but I don't use the mouse any more - and get annoyed when my hands have to leave the keyboard now02:23
akgranerok  - I'll work on populating those boards I created in a few - thanks for finding this02:24
akgranerbeats the heck out of checklists on a wiki page02:25
akgraneror spreadsheets02:25
jcastrohey02:26
akgraneryep02:26
jcastroakgraner: rename the boards and remove "ubuntu" from the front02:26
jcastroit puts the org up top anyway02:26
akgranerahh ok02:26
akgraneroh that was easy02:27
jcastrothis is pretty awesome02:27
akgraner:-)02:27
jcastrook we just need to toss more people in there to see if it's awesome or if it just confuses the crap out of people, heh02:28
jcastroI invited nigel and chris02:28
akgraneryep let me find all the check list and populate the classroom one right quick02:28
jcastroyeah!02:28
jcastroI get the feeling we're going to want to do a bunch of sublists02:29
jcastrootherwise we'll be swamped with cards02:29
akgranernods02:29
jcastroI notice you can promote a subtask into a card too02:29
akgranerlet me play with this right quick and we can figure it out02:29
jcastroakgraner: https://trello.com/shortcuts02:31
jcastroaha!02:31
jcastroah suckfest, you can't move cards from one board to another02:31
jcastroso like, you can't move entire things to other teams02:31
jcastroakgraner: also it's in real time, if you leave it open and other people do stuff it just autoupdates02:32
akgraneroh cool on the in real time thing02:35
jcastroakgraner: yeah so I guess you can leave it open all day and see how people are getting on02:35
jcastroI just made an app out of it02:36
jcastroakgraner: heck yeah, that openweek one looks /AWESOME/02:38
akgranerI realized that some of the wording is for developer week02:45
akgranerbut it's a start02:45
akgranerok I am not seeing how to create a sublist02:45
akgranerwhat am I missing02:45
jcastrowhat do you mean?02:49
jcastrothere's a sublist for the back of each card?02:49
akgranerhmmm /me looks again for the "back" of the card02:50
jcastroclick on the card02:50
jcastrosorry, I mean on the card02:50
akgranerahh ok02:52
akgranerI thought I missed something02:53
akgranerok this is kinda cool02:53
jcastroyeah!02:53
jcastrohey so, idea.02:53
jcastrolet's run with what we got here, fill em up, use them, etc.02:53
jcastroand then at UDS we can show bacon, etc.02:53
akgranerk03:01
akgraneralso how do you delete stuff?03:01
akgranerI want to move things off the todo card on the community team03:01
akgranersince I created boards for them03:02
jcastroyou just archive it03:02
akgranerahhh ok03:02
jcastrohttp://blog.trello.com/launch/03:02
jcastrocheck out their other lists they're using03:02
jcastroI just happened to like todo, doing, done, postpone, since it's like a GTD thing03:02
akgraneron cool03:02
jcastroright03:03
akgranerUse GTD too :-)  so yeah I like those too03:03
jcastroso maybe you want to organize it by Each week03:03
jcastroand then instead of 10 weeks out, etc.03:03
akgraneryep03:03
jcastrolet me do one and we'll see which one we like03:03
akgranerI wasn't sure how to do that03:03
* akgraner needs to read up on this 03:03
jcastroI'll mess with that, you just keep doing what you were doing03:03
jcastrotheir whole blog has good info03:04
jcastrook I'll plan Open Week for 12.0403:04
akgranerjcastro ok  - let me see how you do this03:06
jcastroyeah03:06
jcastroakgraner: can you copy and paste your week stuff on a pastebin somewhere?03:08
jcastrolike what you put in those checklists.03:08
akgranerI see  - so can you assign due dates to each of the check list items...03:08
jcastroright03:09
jcastrooh dude03:09
jcastroOk one sec03:10
jcastroI got it03:10
jcastrowatch this03:10
akgranerhttp://pastebin.com/u3wZxfZX03:10
* akgraner watches03:10
jcastroyeah!03:11
jcastrocheck it out03:11
akgranerOh I see :-)03:15
akgranerI got this now03:15
akgranerDo you know the dates for app dev, dev, cloud weeks/days yet for 12.0403:16
akgranerOpen Week is easy to figure out03:16
jcastrono03:20
jcastrowe pick those at UDS03:20
jcastrobut if you know the steps03:20
jcastrowe can always go back and just add dates03:20
akgranergotcha03:21
akgranerso you convert the items to a card03:21
akgranerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Organization03:23
jcastroah check this out03:24
jcastroLook at "final preparations"03:24
jcastroeach week could be a card03:24
jcastroand then each task in there, let me adjust it one more time. :)03:24
akgranerk03:24
akgranerSO the steps are the same for each week - with little tweaks here and there - but I can go ahead and use the 12.04 you just did and apply then to the other weeks but just change the wiki pages and mailing lists that are referenced03:25
akgranerthat's cool :-)03:28
akgranerso then you just move the items to the right date order03:28
akgranerSO you archive the items when completed then03:29
akgraneror do you want them moved to a "DONE" page03:29
akgranerso you can see what has been completed the archive those items at the end of each week03:29
jcastroakgraner: ok what do you think now?03:30
akgranerI like it it - nice and neat03:30
jcastroakgraner: well, I think what we should do03:30
jcastrois move them to a Done03:30
jcastroso we don't forget them03:30
akgranerk03:30
jcastroand they're there in case of follow up03:31
jcastroand then every cycle03:31
jcastroarchive them up03:31
akgranertotally03:31
jcastroor end of every week or something like that03:31
jcastrothat way jjono can see what's been done, etc.03:31
akgranerit also makes it easy to see what's been accomplished etc03:31
akgraneryep03:31
jcastroakgraner: and I just color code them03:32
jcastroso we can dump them in Done03:33
jcastroakgraner: I wish we could clone cards03:33
jcastrothat would be brilliant03:33
jcastroakgraner: ok don't fix up the one for this time03:33
jcastrowe've done all that crap already03:33
jcastroso I will move it to done03:33
akgranerk03:33
akgranerthanks03:33
akgranerwe should add it to the suggestions somewhere - clone cards03:34
jcastroit's on there03:35
jcastroI checked. :)03:35
jcastroakgraner: ah I know how we do it03:37
jcastroat the end of every cycle, you rename Done to "Done for 11.10", then archive the entire list at once!03:37
akgranerOh Nice!03:37
akgranersee you are thinking!03:37
jcastroakgraner: right so I'm thinking03:39
jcastrofor things that we need lists for, repetive stuff03:39
jcastrowe can do it like that03:39
akgranerDid you change the ToDo Card  in classroom?03:39
jcastroand then for ones that always have stuff coming in and out we can use todo, doing, done, postpone03:39
jcastroakgraner: I archived it because I saw you making them into individual ones03:39
akgranergotcha03:40
akgranerjust wanted to make sure I wasn't clicking in the right spot or something :-)03:40
akgranerSO I guess we need to document this somewhere03:40
akgranerjcastro, you want me to start a googledoc?03:40
jcastrofor what?03:41
akgranerthen we can move it to a <eye roll> wiki page </eyeroll>03:41
jcastrowell, once people see it set up03:41
jcastrothey will just follow along03:41
akgranerthis b/c you know some people won't read the blog and stuff on the site03:41
jcastrowell03:41
jcastroit's easy03:41
jcastroyou write stuff down03:41
jcastroand then drag it around03:41
jcastroI mean, I guess we could write it down, but once you see them set up, it'll be easy03:42
akgranerI know03:42
akgranernods03:42
jcastrogranted it sucks for us right now because we've redone some like 3 times03:42
jcastrobut hey, who's counting03:42
akgranerit's still easy though03:42
akgranera lot easier than doing this on a wiki03:42
akgranerwith edit conflicts and crap03:42
akgranerhmm now if these list could interact with the burndown charts03:43
akgraneryou could have a burndown list - and when you move it into DONE etc it updates those charts03:43
akgranerbut I dream :-)03:44
jcastroindeed03:44
jcastrobut they don't have an API yet03:44
akgranerI like this though - just have to remember to change the blueprints and stuff03:45
akgranerbut that's easy - just added update blueprints as a checklist item :-)03:45
jcastrohah03:46
jcastroyeah03:46
jcastrohey, on each of the boards you made03:46
jcastroset them to public03:46
jcastroand then turn off voting03:46
jcastrowhich is like a scrum thing we don't need/want03:47
akgranerok will do03:48
akgranerDone03:50
akgranerjcastro, I'll populate some of the other boards in the am and invite the other team members to join - :-)  this is fun...03:53
jcastroyeah me too!03:53
jcastrowait!03:53
akgraneryes03:53
jcastrohttps://trello.com/card/board/make-checklists-re-usable/4d5ea62fd76aa1136000000c/4e1e0ab1802ec6e81c0ee19c03:53
jcastrovote for this03:54
jcastrohttps://trello.com/card/board/templates-for-boards/4d5ea62fd76aa1136000000c/4e6fdc349d5bce0000004fa603:54
jcastroand this!03:54
jcastroakgraner: hah awesome, they use it for their own tracking of making it03:54
jcastrohow meta.03:54
akgraner:-) Voted03:55
akgraneranything else before I go find my pillow?03:55
jcastronope, i am off to bed03:55
jcastrothis was fun, talk to you tomorrow!03:55
akgraneryeppers laters03:55
nigelbjcastro / akgraner - nEAT04:00
jcastroEXCELLENT.04:00
jcastronigel is here04:00
* jcastro rubs hands together04:01
jcastroI knew you'd appreciate a nice web app04:01
nigelbI know of it :)04:01
nigelbIts pretty awesome04:01
pleia2"I have tool porn!" is my new favorite jcastroism04:01
jcastroI do.04:01
jcastroI do.04:01
nigelband jcastro gets pwned by the pleia2!04:01
pleia2interesting, who makes trello?04:04
nigelbJoel Spolky gang04:04
nigelbWhat's the company name? FogBiz?04:04
jcastroI think it's just fog creek04:05
nigelbAha, that one04:05
pleia2ah, yeah04:06
nigelbIts a startup of its own.04:06
jcastrook so we were thinking this would  be a good way for people to follow what's going on and where04:07
jcastroand be able to see how things are coming along for each team04:07
jcastroso amber and I are going to try it fulltime, and then I guess we can talk about it at UDS04:07
jcastroso we don't get stuck on "what needs to be done for open week?"04:08
jcastrowe just took amber's monster checklists of doom(tm) and put them in there04:08
nigelbI suggest we move all of Amber's monster checklists of doom (TM) there.04:09
nigelbjcastro: are you guys short of hands for open week?04:10
jcastrofor sessions?04:10
jcastropleia2: ok I figured out how to just invite you to "ubuntu", sorry for the spam04:12
jcastro>_>04:12
jcastro<_<04:12
nigelblol04:12
pleia2hehe04:12
pleia2I like collaborative todo lists04:15
jcastroyeah!04:15
jcastrothese are fun04:15
jcastroso amber and I made some04:17
jcastroif you want to chip in04:17
jcastroor make your own04:17
jcastroand then assign other people, etc.04:17
pleia2I added some stuffs to classroom04:18
jcastrook04:18
jcastroto assign yourself you can just drag your head onto it04:18
jcastroor I was thinking04:18
jcastrowhen people want to help someone out04:18
jcastrothey can just see what is open (unassigned)04:18
jcastroor just chip in somewhere04:19
pleia2ooh neat04:19
nigelbWait, its not open!!!04:19
nigelb<-- troll :P04:19
jcastrotrello.com/shortcuts04:19
jcastronom nom shortcuts04:19
pleia2keybindings++04:20
jcastroyeah04:20
jcastrowe'd just need to figure out colors for each board, etc.04:20
jcastrobut I figure how hard can it be04:20
jcastroeach team will just set it up however it works for them04:20
jcastroit's just a list of lists04:20
jcastropleia2: click on one of the open week 12.04 cards04:21
jcastroon the back it has like, sublists and stuff04:21
pleia2oh wow04:21
pleia2lots of stuff04:21
pleia2cool04:21
jcastroright, so it's like amber's huge spreadsheets04:22
jcastroI don't know if you've seen them before04:22
jcastrobut basically, it's your worst nightmare.04:22
pleia2added <green>04:22
pleia2hehe04:22
pleia2oh yes :)04:22
jcastrook going to bed, the boards and "ubuntu" itself is open to the public, so invite whomever you want into it, and then they can figure it out04:24
pleia2ok, I actually need to get some sleep04:24
jcastronight!04:24
* jcastro goes to bed04:24
pleia2night all04:24
nigelbnight jcastro, pleia204:24
czajkowskialoha morning all06:37
nigelblies! I'm going back to bed.06:37
dholbachgood morning07:04
* popey hugs dholbach 07:05
* dholbach hugs popey back07:05
ejatmorning dholbach07:23
dholbachhi ejat07:28
dholbachcjohnston, happy birthday07:28
ejatcjohnston : happy birthday ..07:28
czajkowskihow's folks?08:12
czajkowskivery odd being able to see jono head off to work in the morning08:16
czajkowski202 people from 30 LoCos and 26 countries are taking part in the 11.10 Release party, are you going to one, if you're organising one don't forget to add it to http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1186/detail/08:21
AlanBellup to 65 for the London party \o/08:27
czajkowskithere are way too many maybe attending... Confirmed attending: 3808:28
czajkowskiwould be nice to get the other Maybe attending: 27 to come along also08:28
AlanBellwell you can haul one of the maybes along :)08:28
czajkowskiaye08:35
czajkowskiI've moved all my windows around08:37
czajkowskimost annoying trying to figure out my keyboard shorts for which room I'm meant to be in08:37
czajkowskijono: *waves*09:31
jonohey czajkowski!09:31
jonowas great to see you today09:31
jonosorry I couldnt come and say hi, I was running late09:31
czajkowskijono: tis fine was waiting on bus I just wave at the staff in the morning09:32
jono:-)09:32
czajkowskiit's most amusing seeing you lot all walk to work in the morning09:32
czajkowskiactually here in the UK09:32
czajkowskikinda reminds me where I live again09:32
czajkowski11 months in the UK09:32
jono:-)09:33
jonojussi, good for our call in 2m?09:58
cjohnstonthanks dholbach10:22
cjohnstonjcastro: im headed to work.. you pinged me last night.. just PM me if you still need me10:22
akgranercjohnston, he pinged you to take a look at https://trello.com/  you should have an invite10:39
akgranerwe were working through some stuff last night...it's a pretty cool tool10:41
* popey coughs http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/10/11/s04e17-chains-of-misery/10:52
popeyakgraner gets a mention10:52
akgranerpopey, resharing the link now and adding it to UWN :-)  /me listens as well - thanks!10:53
popey10:54
popeynp10:54
akgranerpopey, you all make podcasting seem easy!11:06
popeyhah11:06
popeythank you11:07
czajkowskisome folks are just numptalots11:11
czajkowskibest word aq has ever come up with11:11
czajkowskibut it's a great description!11:11
jussiczajkowski: ++11:12
akgranerpopey, you all sound so professional and polite - I love your *English*  - where  your=anyone from UK...11:18
AlanBellit was a good language when we gave it to you :)11:18
akgranerAlanBell, :-P11:19
jussiAlanBell: haha11:19
nigelbAlanBell: HAHAHA11:20
AlanBellhttp://blip.tv/alan-bells-ubuntu-stuff/ubuntu-11-10-eyes-free-install-563608711:20
czajkowskihow boot of the car became trunk I will never understand11:21
Pendulumczajkowski: how do you know it wasn't trunk first?11:23
czajkowskiPendulum: it just seems ilogical11:25
AlanBellczajkowski: actually think of the pre-war type cars with a trunk strapped to the back to put stuff in11:29
AlanBellbertie wooster type cars11:30
popeywhat do you mean we _sound_ professional and polite? we _are_ professional and polite! :D11:30
popey(sometimes)11:31
nigelblol11:31
jussipopey: yeah right :P11:32
akgranerpopey, ;-)  that is true I should have said are not sound...I stand corrected11:35
akgranerI screwed up my website and for some reason can't embed video or audio :-(  I'm sure it's just a setting some where but boo...12:05
Joeb454akgraner: you clearly haven't heard all UK accents ;)12:16
akgranerJoeb454, nope I haven't, but I absolutely <3 accents...kinda partial to my own thought :-)  I like the UK phrasing and word usages  - the jargon the cadence etc.  I also love how someone with a skilled vocabulary and British English masters the art of backhanded compliments...it's awesome!12:19
akgraners/thought/though12:19
akgranerI would love to live in the UK for a couple of years just to pick up and learn to communicate that way :-)12:20
head_victimakgraner: she's apples mate, who wants to speak the Queen's English anyway ;)12:21
akgranerI need a better reason than that though to get my family to move with me...12:21
akgranerhead_victim, I said I like it but didn't want it applied to me - I should have been more specific :-P12:22
head_victimakgraner: ah the "pick up and learn" made me concerned ;)12:22
akgraneryou all are funny - bbiab popey the podcast was a great way to start my day - thanks again!12:23
Joeb454akgraner: the UK phrasing varies depending where you are, it's quite interesting, I'll try and find a tv show I watched about it not too long back for you :)12:26
mhall119had anyone heard from doctormo today?12:31
Pendulummhall119: not since he posted stuff to fb/g+ last night12:34
mhall119hope everyone is doing well12:37
mhall119cjohnston: happy birthday old man!12:38
cjohnstonyour still older mhall119 !12:38
mhall119only biologically12:38
cjohnstonthats all that matters12:38
* mhall119 prepares "back in my day" comments12:39
mhall119back in my day, we communicated with our friends over IRC, in a terminal window!12:40
mhall119oh wait...12:40
cjohnstonlol12:47
jussione eye ric! :D12:54
mhall119random12:57
czajkowskiback in the day we used ychat13:02
mhall119heh, yeah, I remember those days13:07
jcastroanyone have an iphone or android?13:21
jcastroIf someone can run guidebook and search for "ubuntu", you should be able to see the UDS schedule13:22
Pendulumjcastro: only finding last uds13:25
jcastrook13:25
Pendulum(on iphone)13:25
czajkowskijcastro: same here on android13:30
czajkowskiI see may UDS13:30
jcastrook, thanks!13:30
jcastrothey must not have made it public yet13:30
czajkowskinp13:30
cjohnstonjcastro: I was trying to get it working because we have testing we need to do with guidebook13:45
jcastroit was supposed to go live today sometime13:47
jcastrocjohnston: try this13:47
jcastrosearch for "ubuntu"13:48
jcastroand then select the normal one13:48
jcastroer, the one from last time13:48
jcastroand then click "redeem code" or whatever they call it13:48
jcastroand type in "uds"13:48
jcastrothat should show you the new one until it's made public13:48
cjohnstonsweet13:49
cjohnstondescription works13:49
cjohnstonthats awesome13:49
jcastroit's pretty sweet13:50
akgranerjcastro, I am loving adding to your boards - especially the ideas card13:59
akgranerJoeb454, thanks!13:59
jcastrohah14:00
jcastroakgraner: yeah, I dreamt of lists14:00
akgranerjcastro, too funny14:01
jcastrohey dholbach14:15
jcastroSoon we'll be in Orlando! And we can lay by the pool14:15
mhall119jcastro: you live on the beach now14:16
jcastroI do14:17
jcastrobut only one person to share it with. :(14:17
* dholbach hugs jcastro14:19
jcastroakgraner: any response from rick?14:20
czajkowskijcastro: dude shrup ya pup ya live near a beach with sunshine!14:20
akgranernope can you ping him14:20
czajkowskidon't make me come over therea and kick yer ass14:20
jcastroczajkowski: :D :D :D14:20
akgranerI think I am entering the pest zone now :-)14:20
akgranerjcastro, but if that one person to share it with is Jill - the rest of the world shouldn't matter...:-P14:21
mhall119jcastro: make her come over here14:21
jcastroakgraner: touche`14:21
akgranerjcastro, can you ping rick? and just tell him we can shuffle people?14:22
czajkowskijcastro: wuv you too my dear14:22
jcastroakgraner: yeah just did14:22
czajkowskihttp://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/313754_10150348943024634_44935334633_7837126_1754809761_n.jpg sums up way too many people I know14:22
jcastroheh14:22
akgranerjcastro, thank you!14:23
jcastrothat one dude I was mailing didn't claim his slot14:23
jcastroso we need one more14:23
akgranerk - hmm14:30
jcastroI see14:30
jcastroWe killed the room14:30
* akgraner thinks14:30
jcastroit's like a bug spray14:36
jcastrocome into a room with the voluntold brand spray and watch them run to the hills.14:37
* jcastro sprays popey in the head.14:37
nigelbjcastro: killed what? who?14:38
jcastroakgraner: need moar checklists.14:41
akgranerhehe blogging then adding more the ubuntu weeks check list14:41
jcastronigelb: we need 2 more people14:41
akgranerjcastro, so rick can't now?14:42
nigelbjcastro: Ah!14:42
nigelblet me look at the schedule to see who we can strong-arm...er convince.14:42
jcastroakgraner: he hasn't responded14:42
jcastroand it's been like .... a month14:42
jcastroso I'm just going to fill them14:42
jcastroif he wants to add an extra slot, then he can, shrug14:42
akgranerk14:42
akgranernigelb, what is something you want to know more about14:43
akgraneror anyone what something about 11.10 you think users/contributors want to know more about or get involved with...14:44
nigelbakgraner: Might want to ask starcraftman if we wants to repeat his epic talk about how to find help14:44
nigelb(its a user days talk and he does it *very* well)14:44
akgranernods14:44
jcastrono kubuntu this time?14:44
akgranerHaven't heard back from them14:44
jcastrook Van Dine is going to do a gwibber one14:44
akgranerI email the list14:44
akgranerdude how'd you talk him into that14:44
Pendulumakgraner: there was probably bribery involved14:45
jcastroahl14:45
akgranertotally14:45
jcastrolet me see if marrusl wants to do upstart14:45
akgranerk14:45
nigelbMaybe we should ask david or crimsun about audio14:45
nigelbOr ask magicfab about "what you should know before buying an ubuntu system"14:46
macodholbach: your blog post doesn14:49
macohrmph14:49
dholbachmaco, hm?14:50
macoi hit return when i meant to hit '14:50
nigelblol14:50
dholbachit doesn't do what exactly? :)14:50
nigelbthat happens to me way too often14:50
macoi was going to say im not sure what the target audience for your survey is14:50
dholbach"You were always interested in Ubuntu Development and gave it a try already?"14:51
macoi mean, i see the first question in your screenshot, but as i presume you want fairly recent experiences.... would it be "people whose involvement attempts were within the last year" or...?14:51
dholbachin the survey then there's a question where they can rate themselves from 1 to 10 depending on how much they feel they're experienced14:51
dholbachI hope to be able to split the results into separate groups14:51
macook14:52
dholbachso we can say "very experienced feel this way", "new contributors feel the other way"14:52
dholbachor something14:52
dholbachbut really... any feedback will be helpful14:52
macoi was just thinking you'd get answers all over the place from cjwatson v. nigelb v. $random_new_person_i_dont_know_yet14:52
akgranerI still haven't replied to jono's survey - *sigh*  - I keep overthinking my answers14:52
dholbachmaco, yeah, I guess that can happen :)14:53
nigelbmaco: I don't fall into either of those groups14:53
nigelbmy ubuntu development contributions have been "random" :)14:54
maco"less actively participating than i used to" or "semi-retirement" would fit me :P14:54
macodholbach: for news sources, could you add Planet Ubuntu?14:54
nigelb"semi-retirement" has a better ring to it :P14:54
dholbachhum, not sure I can change the survey while it's already open?14:55
macojono did last week when i pointed out that "accessibility" team was missing on his survey14:55
akgranerdholbach, you can with survey monkey..14:55
macooh hey #7 works for Planet too though....14:55
dholbachlet's see14:56
dholbachhum, this is weird14:56
dholbachit doesn't show me the text box with one line per answer, but a drop-down field!?14:57
dholbachI guess I better leave it as it is ;-)14:57
nigelbheh14:57
macook. i just put it in the textbox of "other"14:58
dholbachthanks maco14:58
dholbachjcastro, jono, are we team calling today?15:00
jcastroI thought we were15:01
jonodholbach, jcastro I canceled my participation as I am in my mgmt sprint15:01
jcastroHEY ALRIGHT, PARTY.15:02
jcastrodholbach: I'm about to announce the final schedule for openweek, you can just retweet and stuff15:02
dholbachjcastro, sweet15:02
nigelbjcastro: HUZZAH!15:09
jcastrohey you know what15:16
jcastroakgraner: screw this old logo15:16
jcastroI'm making a new one15:16
akgranerk - let me know when you have it so I can add it to my blog post...15:17
jcastrowell I will announce first15:17
nigelbjcastro is ON A ROLL!15:17
dholbachsometimes I love how dirty hacks make your life easy15:18
AlanBellnice to see jcastro adopting a JFDI methodology15:18
nigelbI thought Ubuntu was all about JFDI ;)15:18
jcastroNOW that I have checklists, I AM ON A ROLL.15:18
jonolol15:19
jcastrohummm15:22
jcastrowhere did all my momentum/motivation just go ....15:22
jcastrooh right, I just used the wiki.15:22
jcastrodholbach: hold me15:22
* popey hugs jcastro tightly15:23
mhall119jcastro: why trello and not kanban?15:23
* dholbach hugs jcastro15:23
nigelbbecause trello is new!15:23
* popey puts little stars around nigelb's "New!"15:24
nigelblol15:24
jcastromhall119: too complicated15:24
jcastromhall119: you mean the leankit thing?15:24
mhall119yeah, isn't that what trello is doing?15:26
jcastronot really15:26
jcastroit's more like, simple15:26
mhall119looks mostly the same to me15:26
mhall119but ok15:27
jcastroyeah, there's a bunch of them15:27
jcastroI tried them over the weekend15:27
jcastrothis one is simple without being too simple15:27
jcastrobut like, I wouldn't run a dev team from it15:27
jcastrobut it's nice for "how is openweek coming along?"15:27
jcastrohttps://twitter.com/#!/castrojo/status/12414405327206400115:28
jcastrocan a brother get some RTs?15:28
dholbachdid you g+ it?15:29
jcastrojust now15:29
dholbachah, here we go15:29
jcastroman this ad size is perfect15:29
jcastroI have collected a set of ads this size for each event15:29
dholbachRT'd and R+'d15:29
jcastrodholbach: has someone told you today how great those glasses are?15:29
jcastrodholbach: you got some hot facebook action too?15:30
dholbachah, I'll put it on the ubuntudev thing too15:30
dholbachand mention it in tomorrow's dev update15:30
dholbachjcastro, I bought them for 100 NOK in Norway at the most run-down gas station in the country15:31
jcastrois 100 NOK a lot?15:31
jcastroonly you could pull those off dude. They're so awesome15:31
dholbachhttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=100+nok+in+usd15:31
dholbachand I think I looked at 500 pairs of sunglasses in my life I didn't like :)15:32
nigelbwhat glases?15:32
popeysee dholbach's G+ page15:32
dholbachhttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NBPZsiD8rhQ/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAChg/iz1TbKVle48/photo.jpg?sz=20015:32
popeytis a good pic15:33
popeyI think i need a new avatar15:33
nigelbah, agreed15:33
jcastrosomething that highlights your sideys15:33
popey:D15:33
akgranerjcastro, I love your posts!15:34
jcastromhall119: hey so amber and I are going to use it15:34
jcastromhall119: and if it works out for us we'll show ya'll at UDS15:34
jcastroI was looking for something that lets us see what's going on at a high level15:34
dholbachhello gwibber - I'm talking to you! yes, you!15:35
jcastroso it's obvious to tell when someone is swamped, and you can just grab an item and do it.15:35
akgranerjcastro, I'm fixing the classroom calendar now...15:35
mhall119jcastro: I like it, I just was wondering why use something different, since I'm using kanban internally15:35
akgranerI thought you added place holders, but I don't see them...just double checking15:35
dholbachwow, click the "microblog something" in gwibber and watch it kill your cpu15:36
mhall119jcastro: also, I think kanban is getting some LP integration15:36
dholbachtwo cores of my system busy15:36
akgranerdholbach, qwibber has always killed my cpu :-)15:36
greg-gjcastro: "using Unity like a boss: tRips and tricks" You're taking me on a trip?15:37
nigelbgreg-g: lol15:37
nigelbdholbach: that must be the kidden kill switch :P15:37
nigelb*hidden15:37
jcastrogreg-g: you know .... that's funny enough to just leave in there.15:38
greg-g:)15:38
jcastromhall119: I didn't know that.15:38
mhall119jcastro: it's been mentioned within ISD a couple times, not sure if they're doing it or if we are15:39
* mhall119 was only half paying attention, tbh15:39
mhall119but essentially it would map the board lanes to bug status15:39
mhall119and update cards as the bugs update15:39
cjohnstonis anyone else having issues with adding accounts on gwibber?15:39
* mhall119 is having issues with gwibber in general15:40
dholbachhas somebody of you experience with having a script put loads of small pictures together to a big one? not a panorama, not a fancy-mosaic or something - just stitch them together15:40
cjohnstonhmm15:40
dholbachshould I look at python-imaging for this?15:40
mhall119dholbach: you can probably do it with imagemagic and shell15:40
cjohnstonmy phone does it.. its really cool15:40
dholbachmhall119, I had a look at the imagemagick docs, but they don't really help - there's a -mosaic switch, but I can't seem to get it working15:41
dholbachcjohnston, let me send you ~160 pics15:41
czajkowskidholbach: posted your survey to the loco teams page on fb15:42
nigelbdholbach: picasa does it well15:42
popeymosaic ☹15:42
popeynon free15:42
akgranercjohnston, yes!15:42
nigelbpopey: I thought you were baout thinks that work :)15:42
akgranerand in empathy too...15:42
popeynigelb: my point is that someone is going after people who implement mosaic15:43
popeynot that the code is non-free15:43
nigelbah15:43
cjohnstondholbach: it doesnt do it for pictures already taken15:44
dholbachah, looking like python-imaging can do it15:45
dholbachlet me see15:45
jcastroman. :(15:46
jcastrothere's a 2 inch lizard in my apartment15:46
jcastroI think he's stuck in here15:46
jcastroI'm trying to catch him to release him15:46
czajkowskijcastro: and I thought I was bad there is a dog in the office15:47
mhall119jcastro: best get use to it15:47
jcastroI feel bad for him15:47
jcastrohe's probably going to die somewhere.15:47
mhall1192 inches, must be a baby15:47
jcastroit is15:47
mhall119jcastro: get a cat, problem solved15:48
jcastrothe only way I can think of catching him is with the vacuum15:48
jcastrowe gave up our cat. :(15:48
jcastroMiguel would have hunted this thing for sport, and then brought me the body for evidence.15:48
akgraneris the fridge slow for anyone else15:49
akgranerlike loading the calendars15:50
akgranerjcastro, got the last spot filled15:55
akgraneradding it now15:55
akgraneror do you want the last slot of the day? in which case I'll bump you to it and put the other person in the 1600 UTC time slot on Friday15:56
Pendulumjcastro: why'd you give up your cat? :(15:58
jcastromoving him was too painful, she was flying, I was drying at different times, etc.15:59
jcastrohe has a good home now with another cat15:59
PendulumI'm glad he has a good home15:59
jcastroand the owners send us pics every once in a while15:59
PendulumI think y'all need a new cat, though15:59
jcastrowe didn't want to give him up for adoption15:59
jcastrono, jill says she'll never love again15:59
dakerdholbach, http://fydo.net/projects/merge15:59
jcastroI personally want a bengal or a savannah or something15:59
akgranerjcastro, ok schedule is completely full now :-)16:00
Pendulumjcastro: yeah, we said that when our cat died. and now I have a kitten ;-))16:00
jcastroAWWWW YEAH16:00
pleia2I have an egyptian mau, they're smaller than bengals (which are huge!)16:00
jcastrohttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QBoMLH6EvAY/TliCTVd9FgI/AAAAAAAAARk/m1XoRzXzIpg/s1600/5353.awww+yeah.jpg16:00
jcastrothis is the pic of the day16:00
jcastroeverything we do revolves around this16:00
jcastroPendulum: yeah, if we do I don't want the hassle of a kitten16:01
dholbachdaker, I'm almost there with python-imaging :)16:01
dholbachit's basically just a for-loop16:01
pleia2jcastro: avoid siamese :) they stay kittens forever (much to my horror!)16:01
pleia2monster critter16:01
jcastrowhoa, maus look awesome!16:01
Pendulumjcastro: I wasn't planning on it either, but my mother insisted that we get a kitten16:01
jcastrolooks like a cloud leopard16:01
pleia2yeah, they're pretty :)16:01
Pendulummine seems to be run-of-the-mill black cat, except she's also got some dark brown (think burmese-colour) in her16:02
jcastroI like it when they look like mini versions of hunting cats.16:03
jcastrothat's basically my line of thinking16:03
jcastro"I own a small tiger."16:03
pleia2hehe16:03
Pendulumheh, ours is a panther16:03
Pendulumor at least she thinks she is16:03
Pendulumwe keep quoting Ogden Nash16:03
Pendulum("When called by a panther/Don't anther")16:04
jcastroI don't miss having a walking poop factory though16:04
popeythere is a lady here at work, every time i leave the building she says "goodnight... say hi to the cats!"16:04
popeyI feel bad when I dont say hi to my cats16:04
pleia2haha16:04
* czajkowski peers at the channel 16:16
* popey sets cats on czajkowski 16:17
czajkowskiNo!16:17
* czajkowski runs away 16:17
czajkowskipopey: know the way jon is evil he sent me something like this before http://forestgnome.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/nina-door-small.jpg?w=477&h=35716:19
popeyhaha16:19
popeygorgeous cat16:19
czajkowskipopey: he's only lucky he was far away from me16:23
czajkowskihoping he comes along tomrorow16:23
czajkowskishould be fun16:24
jcastrohey akgraner16:25
jcastrokate tells me she gave you an answer to "what time does ubuntu release?"16:25
jcastroin an interview you did with her.16:26
akgranershe did16:26
cjohnstonwhen we are good and ready?16:27
akgraner:-) sigh do you not read my interviews16:27
jcastroI do!16:29
nigelbjcastro: lies!16:30
akgranerjcastro, I am teasing you  :-)16:31
akgranerI know you do -heck I can't remember who said what in which interview without going back through them..:-/16:31
akgranerIs Tiago Carrondo IRC Nick - tcarrondo?16:36
akgranerjcastro - Classroom Calendar is update so where ever that is on those list you can move to done - will blog and crosspost to classroom and Fridge now :-)16:39
jcastronice!16:39
akgraners/update/updated - I give up typing correctly in IRC jeez16:41
jcastrosorry I was on the phone16:46
dholbachalright - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!16:50
jcastrohey akgraner17:42
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek17:42
jcastroso andy471 pm'ed me17:42
jcastroand was like "I saw the announcement and the old logo"17:42
jcastroso he made a new one17:42
akgraneroh cool :-)17:43
pleia2yay17:43
cjohnstonjcastro: can you blog about summit and LoCo Team Portal and how we need new devs17:48
jcastrosure17:48
jcastroso what do we need?17:48
jcastrohttp://pad.ubuntu.com/summit-loco-portal-developers17:49
jcastrohey nigel17:57
nigelbjcastro: wahts up?17:59
nigelbreading17:59
jcastrodo you have a mozillians page?17:59
nigelbYES17:59
jcastrocan you take a screenshot for me?17:59
jcastroof your page?17:59
nigelbsure17:59
akgranerok blog post cross posted everywhere now :-) mark that off the list jcastro :-)18:01
akgranerI'll email session leads once I get back from picking up my kids from school18:02
nigelbjcastro: http://people.ubuntu.com/~nigelbabu/mozillians.png18:03
jcastrothanks18:03
jcastromind if I use it on a blog?18:03
nigelbnope, go ahead :)18:03
jcastrohttp://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/11360873455/lets-make-it-personal18:30
* cjohnston starts throwing stuff at jcastro 18:34
jcastroheh18:34
macohaha18:36
maconigelb: does your mustache feel insulted?18:36
jcastroakgraner: card dragged to DONE!18:37
cjohnstonjcastro: am I not able to add stuff to the trello thing?18:38
jcastrooh I need to add you18:38
cjohnstono18:38
jcastrocan you set a pic for your dude?18:39
jcastrothere's like 3 CJs in there18:39
czajkowskiwhy is vlc hogging memory again >?( bad bad bad vlc18:40
jcastrocjohnston: ok try now, I added you to the community team board18:41
cjohnstonok18:41
jcastrocjohnston: the call for help is in my blog autoqueue, but it's done18:42
jcastroit'll run in a few hours18:42
jcastrocjohnston: hahaha, well done18:43
cjohnstonjcastro: I made a few minor changes in the etherpad18:44
cjohnstonhttp://pad.ubuntu.com/summit-loco-portal-developers18:44
* popey farts http://about.me/popey at jcastro :D18:45
cjohnstonjcastro: you see your new task? is that what your well done was about?18:45
jcastroOH MAN18:45
jcastrowhat an epic18:45
jcastroepic photo18:45
popeyBinns took it18:45
jcastrobiins takes the best photos18:46
* jcastro adds to post18:46
popeyhaha18:46
jcastrocjohnston: I moved it to the unicorns column18:46
popeygreat post btw jcastro18:46
cjohnstonlol18:47
cjohnstonjcastro: http://about.me/cjohnston18:49
jcastrook now I see what you're doing18:50
cjohnston?18:50
jcastrobut too late, it's on planet!18:50
cjohnstonIs the lets make it personal post what your doing to try to get more developers18:51
jcastronigelb: oh lol, can you shrink your screenshot on people? I apparently fail at the internet18:51
cjohnston??18:51
jcastrocjohnston: I have a follow up for the loco directory18:51
jcastrothis is just an idea I had18:51
jcastrowhere it's like "look at our amazing group of kick ass people!" and it's a stupid html list with no personality.18:51
cjohnstongotcha.. if you dont mind then, I did make a couple of changes to the post in etherpad if you didn't already catch them18:52
jcastroyeah, working it now18:52
cjohnstonty18:52
cjohnstonjcastro: http://ubuntuone.com/0mtN9xOg6pCwNUVChbn7p719:30
jcastro!!!!!19:32
cjohnstonit already existed before you blogged about it19:36
jcastronoice.19:37
popeywow, just had the most annoying compiz bug ever19:40
jcastroonly one?19:41
popeyCTRL+ALT arrows moves you from one desktop to another19:41
popeybut takes whatever is full screen with it19:41
jcastroah, as if shift is being held down19:41
popeylike you have shift held down19:41
popeyyes19:41
popeybut sometimes takes more than one with it19:41
popeyi only stopped it by unmaxing everything19:41
popeyeven does it when you use the workspace switcher on the launcher19:42
dakerjcastro, http://ubuntuone.com/64pcQyFq08totlyDqmr1w919:42
dakerhttp://ubuntuone.com/5fw6ajsJjVFRJ9jlAQKUzQ19:42
dakerhttp://ubuntuone.com/3EGr5xATTOCVHV0jyRJZqx19:42
dakerhttp://ubuntuone.com/3rWEqFYXpJ7yArr6NLBusl19:42
jcastrowow19:42
jcastrothese look awesome!19:42
dakerhttp://ubuntuone.com/0mtN9xOg6pCwNUVChbn7p719:42
dakerhttp://ubuntuone.com/4DsFLs4Y5tpX2cnKRo2Wsp19:42
jcastroare these prototypes or real?19:42
dakerhttp://ubuntuone.com/4sx3JIp4OhzzprcMrrOg1D19:42
dakermockups19:42
jcastrothese look great!19:43
daker19:43
popeyoh another jcastro19:43
popeydo you sometimes find the cursor in your terminal is not a block19:43
popeybut a square19:43
popeylike it doesnt have the highlight19:43
popeyif I alt-tab away and back it fixes it19:44
AlanBellgood stuff daker19:46
dakerthanks AlanBell19:46
AlanBellgot plans for maps at region level?19:46
AlanBellso click europe, get a clickable map of europe?19:47
AlanBellI did a mockup of it, but never got it fully done19:47
dakerwe will see how we can do it19:47
jcastropopey: I don't get that19:52
jcastrook lizard update, he ran out and now he's under the living room couch19:52
jcastroI opened the door for him to get out19:52
jcastrolet's see what happens19:52
popeyalt-tab is annoying me now19:52
popeyit absolutely doesn't switch between last two used windows19:52
popeyaargh19:53
popeynow it's doing the moving windows about thing19:53
AlanBellpopey: I find the unfilled terminal cursor happens sometimes19:55
popeyand now neither wired nor wireless will connect20:00
popeysegfault in wpa_supplicant20:00
jcastroman popey20:01
jcastroit's not your day20:01
popeyright, so the only way i get this desktop online is to attach an _apple_ usb to ethernet device20:02
jcastrocome on lizard, I left the door open, you will die in my apartment, make a run for the door.20:02
popeywhich just works20:02
* popey stabs ralink20:02
jcastroman20:13
jcastrothe little guy walked out in the middle of the room20:13
jcastrolooked at the open door20:13
jcastrosaw freedom20:13
jcastroand then ran back underneath the couch20:13
cjohnstonlol20:16
jcastroI am determined to make him live20:17
popeyMy cats brought a bird in once, I shoo'ed them out and then carefully bird-herd'ed the bird out the front door to freedom20:18
popeycats were waiting and pounced on it20:18
jcastrohah20:22
jcastrolooks like they trained /you/.20:23
jcastro"why do all this work, daddy knows what do to."20:23
popeywhat am I doing wrong with alt-tab20:23
popeyI start terminals with CTRL+ALT+T20:23
popeyi have lots of them, I alt tab and they all appear20:23
popeyover the top of whatever I tabbed away from20:23
popeyi only wanted one of them20:23
jcastroalt tab to the terminals20:24
jcastrobut don't let go20:24
jcastrothen alt-` to cycle to the one you want20:24
jcastrothen let go20:24
popeyyes, i know that :D20:24
jcastro` meaning, whatever key is above your tab key20:24
popeybut then alt-tab away to chrome again20:24
popeythen i want to come back to that one20:24
popeyi dont want to do the alt ` dance every time20:25
popeyI want to quickly flick between two windows20:25
jcastroOHHHHH20:25
jcastroman that is a good idea20:25
jcastrofile that one please20:25
popeyI refuse to believe nobody has brought that up20:26
popeythat is the way alt tab has worked _forever_20:26
popeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Q8Cd6piIc20:30
popeydoes that work for you?20:30
jcastroit works the exact as the video does for  me20:43
jcastroI never noticed that20:43
popeypeople on G+ saynig they can't reproduce it20:45
popeywhat did DBO do to our computers during that hangout!?20:45
popeyI blame his hair20:45
jcastromaybe20:47
jcastrotry doing a reset and see if you can reproduce it20:47
popeysee chipaca's tweet reply20:51
AlanBellyeah, alt+tab does not flick between last two windows20:56
AlanBelland I wish it did20:56
jcastroouch20:56
jcastrothat sucks20:56
popeywhere do I file a bug?20:57
popeyunity?20:57
AlanBellwell actually maybe it does, but it brings up other stuff on top of what I came from20:57
AlanBellyeah, it is just the window raising of the application20:58
popeypress windows key20:59
popeystart typing20:59
popeydash doesn't have focus20:59
popeyso i have to click in the dash20:59
AlanBellthat works for me, but I just found another21:00
jcastrothat works for me21:01
AlanBellopen the dash, click outside the dash on the primary monitor and the dash closes and focus goes to what you clicked on21:01
popeyits hit and miss21:01
popeyi can press Win and then type and nothing happens21:01
AlanBellopen the dash, click an app on monitor 2 and the dash stays open21:01
popeyooo21:01
popeyi cant test that, only one screen21:02
AlanBellyou can drag windows about on monitor 2, but not focus and type in them21:02
popeyNeil is on the case \o/21:05
* AlanBell files bug 87307921:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 873079 in unity "dual screen dash doesn't close when clicking in second monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87307921:06
* popey files bug 87308221:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 873082 in unity "ALT+Tab doesn't switch between two most recent windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87308221:06
AlanBellcongrats doctormo!22:48
mhall119doctormo: yay! congrats!23:27
* mhall119 is trying really hard not to make "Is it out yet?" jokes23:27

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