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| twb | I'm trying to do some pinning for the first time in a few years; last time I tried it didn't work on Ubuntu because there were no release aliases (stable/testing/unstable). | 01:57 |
| twb | But this looks like it should work, and I can't see what I'm doing wrong: http://paste.debian.net/135875/ | 01:57 |
| twb | Is there some gotcha I don't know about, like "pinning doesn't work at all in lucid" ? | 01:57 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 03:52 |
| ScottK | Good morning. | 03:52 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:04 |
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| pitti | SpamapS, RAOF: did either of you accept postgresql-common into oneiric-proposed? | 08:55 |
| pitti | someone did, but didn't run sru-accept | 08:55 |
| pitti | anyway, running it now | 08:55 |
| RAOF | Nope, but I guess oneiric-proposed is now open for sru business, isn't it. Time for me to start checking that queue. | 08:57 |
| pitti | RAOF: right, it is; we already accepted quite a number of SRUs, see the HTML report | 08:58 |
| tseliot | cjwatson, pitti: do you know what package sets up the admin group in ubuntu? | 09:17 |
| pitti | hm, it's not sudo | 09:18 |
| ogra_ | isnt it base-files or some such ? | 09:18 |
| ogra_ | some d-i component at least | 09:18 |
| pitti | it's nowhere in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postinst, so I guess it's in the installer | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | user-setup | 09:22 |
| ogra_ | ah | 09:22 |
| * ogra_ knew it was something with a dash in the middle :) | 09:22 | |
| tseliot | ok, thanks everyone | 09:25 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: the postgresql 8.4.9 update is failing to build on armel. The regression test fails horribly. Any ideas? | 11:42 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: ie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706647/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/706648/ | 11:44 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: ugh, no; haven't see that one yet; that's a regression from .9, i. e. .8 worked in the same environment? | 12:05 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: yeah, .8 compiled fine on the armel builders | 12:05 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: unless something changed on the builders since .8 was compiled | 12:06 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: does it affect all releases? i. e. lucid/maverick/natty? | 12:07 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: yes | 12:07 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: 8.3 compiled fine on hardy armel though | 12:08 |
| pitti | ok, then it's very likely a regression in .9 | 12:08 |
| pitti | built fine on sid, though (https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=postgresql-8.4&arch=armel&ver=8.4.9-1&stamp=1317049566) | 12:08 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: I'll try that in a porter chroot | 12:09 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: thanks | 12:09 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: the way it's failing could be a lack of resources on the builders | 12:10 |
| pitti | I wonder whether the shm settings changed | 12:11 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: oh, the buildds changed | 12:11 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: we now have panda board | 12:12 |
| pitti | s | 12:12 |
| pitti | previously (until a few weeks ago) we had another kind | 12:12 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: anyway, I'll try on the porter box | 12:12 |
| mdeslaur | oh! | 12:13 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: ok, let me know | 12:14 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: I think all the arm builders which are on "manual" are the old ones | 12:14 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: do you have the builds in a PPA or so, where you can retry them easily? | 12:14 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: is porter a panda board? | 12:14 |
| pitti | I wonder if we could temporarily set the panda boards on manual and reactivate one of the old ones to grab the build | 12:15 |
| pitti | to see whether that's the difference | 12:15 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: yes, there in the security PPA, I can retry them | 12:15 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: don't yet, need to ask lamont first | 12:15 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: no, kakadu (porter) is a babbage (MX51) | 12:16 |
| mdeslaur | lamont: although pandas are quite cute, it turns out they can be pretty mean | 12:16 |
| pitti | lamont: are the old babbage armel buildds really down, or just disabled to let the pandas build everything? | 12:17 |
| pitti | lamont: i. e. can I reactivate one of the babbages to let teh postgres update build? | 12:17 |
| pitti | also, do we have a panda porter box? | 12:20 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: 8.4.9 build running on kakadu now; will take a bit, though | 12:22 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: thanks | 12:22 |
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| cjwatson | pitti: scheat | 13:01 |
| pitti | cjwatson: bisecting :) not sure whether we want to wait with the security update until postgres works on panda; I guess not? | 13:02 |
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| lamont | pitti: infinity stuck all the non-pandas on manual so that pandas win | 13:19 |
| pitti | lamont: ah, but they still work | 13:19 |
| lamont | you could certainly stuff something on one of the ones listed as manual | 13:19 |
| pitti | lamont: thanks | 13:19 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: kakadu still building; shall we try this, to have some parallelism? | 13:20 |
| lamont | pitti: I've been failing to bring the bbg3 boards back when they fall over, since they're not suitable for a datacenter. if they're not DISABLED in launchpad, they're live | 13:20 |
| pitti | lamont: cool, thanks; wanted to be sure I won't set anythign on fire by reenabling them | 13:21 |
| mdeslaur | lamont: is there a way I can force a PPA rebuild to a specific builder? | 13:21 |
| lamont | it was done entirely for build time minimization | 13:21 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: I'll do taht | 13:21 |
| lamont | mdeslaur: you get someone with buildd admin privs to encourage it | 13:21 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: if you can stand by with retrying (don't yet), I'll set up teh buildds accordingly | 13:21 |
| pitti | lamont: on it | 13:21 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: ok, let me know | 13:21 |
| * pitti looks for a suitable bait -- aah, this candy over here! | 13:22 | |
| pitti | mdeslaur: ok, please retry the build now | 13:22 |
| pitti | should land on actinidiaceae | 13:23 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: ok, have retried lucid | 13:23 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: yep, it's on actinidiaceae | 13:23 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: ok, https://launchpad.net/builders/actinidiaceae now "building private source" | 13:23 |
| pitti | I reset the buildds | 13:24 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: ok, cool, now we wait | 13:24 |
| pitti | for some reason https://launchpad.net/builders just stopped working for me (I get "forbidden") | 13:24 |
| pitti | perhaps LP now forbids me seeing this as soon as there's a private build running? | 13:25 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: yeah, apparently when there's a security build going on that whole page gets forbidden | 13:25 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: I wasn't aware of the change, but someone mentioned it this week | 13:25 |
| pitti | that's new, though; I used to be able to see it | 13:25 |
| pitti | it's not that secrect, though, https://launchpad.net/builders/actinidiaceae still shows it | 13:25 |
| mdeslaur | it's not a very good change, it should still work, but simply not say what's building IMHO | 13:25 |
| pitti | also, "yes, we are building security updates" -- that's not exactly a secret? | 13:25 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: it never did | 13:26 |
| pitti | it just said "private build" | 13:26 |
| mdeslaur | so, it's broken | 13:26 |
| pitti | it's never really been an information leak | 13:26 |
| pitti | except that you coudl have timed it and thus make some guesses | 13:26 |
| mdeslaur | meh | 13:27 |
| pitti | but now I can still time the time that the page has "forbidden" for me :) | 13:27 |
| pitti | (imagine some less ridiculous word repetition there) | 13:27 |
| mdeslaur | right, not a big difference :) | 13:27 |
| frafu | Hi, could anybody please tell how I can submit a package to proposed as requested here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/onboard/+bug/872374/comments/1 | 13:42 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 872374 in onboard (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Feature Freeze exception request: new version with GI, gsettings,..." [High,New] | 13:42 |
| charlie-tca | frafu: probably better to ask in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel, actually. | 13:49 |
| charlie-tca | ooops | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | sorry, wrong channel | 13:50 |
| frafu | It is a package from main; should I nevertheless ask in MOTU? | 13:51 |
| tumbleweed | !sru | frafu | 13:51 |
| ubottu | frafu: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 13:51 |
| charlie-tca | no, here should be correct | 13:51 |
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| frafu | What does 'Use Nominate for series' mean? It is in the procedure to get it into sru. | 13:56 |
| tumbleweed | frafu: already done on that bug, it adds a task for the series (oneiric task below the "onboard (Ubuntu)" yellow bar | 13:58 |
| frafu | tumbleweed: Has it also already been submitted to -proposed? (I suppose that it means release-proposed!? | 14:03 |
| tumbleweed | frafu: that would be an upload to oneiric-proposed, that someone will have to sponsor for you. Procedure is to subscribe ubuntu-sponsors and wait. But seeing as there's some urgency here, maybe a core-dev lurking here now can sponsor it (I'm not a core-dev) | 14:06 |
| * tumbleweed has been saying that a lot recently. Maybe I should apply... (but I don't touch main much...) | 14:07 | |
| frafu | tumbleweed: Thanks for the explanation. | 14:07 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: build finished just fine on kakadu | 14:14 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: seems we need a panda porter box to figure this out then | 14:15 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: ok, let's see if actinidiaceae builds it | 14:15 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: fun, now I can see the /builders page again although it's still building | 14:16 |
| mdeslaur | how odd | 14:16 |
| mdeslaur | maybe it's not related to the security build | 14:16 |
| infinity | pitti: We have a panda porter box. | 14:42 |
| infinity | pitti: scheat. | 14:42 |
| pitti | ooh | 14:42 |
| pitti | I thought when cjwatson said this he meant "cheat", for trying to work around the FTBFS | 14:43 |
| slangasek | "scheat"? are we now naming machines after Homestar Runner characters? | 14:43 |
| infinity | Ask Nafallo. :P | 14:43 |
| Nafallo | infinity: no, lamont. | 14:46 |
| Nafallo | slangasek: arabic stars currently | 14:47 |
| infinity | Nafallo: You didn't get to name these ones? | 14:47 |
| Nafallo | infinity: I choose not too. | 14:47 |
| Nafallo | infinity: I got to name Zavijava yesterday though, so I'm content | 14:47 |
| slangasek | Nafallo: where's omar-sharif then | 14:47 |
| Nafallo | slangasek: double name. likely vetoed :-) | 14:47 |
| slangasek | snerk | 14:48 |
| Nafallo | that compiz in -proposed btw. are there loads of bugs about it? | 14:48 |
| Nafallo | I just downgraded to confirm that was what kept stealing my windows and hiding them someplace else. | 14:48 |
| slangasek | Nafallo: do you mean to ask "where do I report that the -proposed compiz is broken"? :) | 14:49 |
| infinity | I think that's exactly what he meant. It gets lost in translation from the original Swedish Chef. | 14:50 |
| Nafallo | slangasek: nope. more of a "have anyone seen this, or do I need to file a new bug" | 14:50 |
| Nafallo | infinity: b0rk bork b0rkie. | 14:50 |
| slangasek | no, you need to mark an *existing* bug as verification-failed so that the SRU team knows not to copy it to -updates | 14:50 |
| infinity | That assumes there's an SRU bug open forit. | 14:51 |
| slangasek | Nafallo: by taking https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/748840 for example, explaining the regression in the comments, replacing 'verification-needed' with 'verification-failed' in the tags, and linking to a bug report for the new behavior if you have one | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 748840 in unity "Windows should not automatically be focused when opened if the focus is on another application" [Critical,Fix committed] | 14:51 |
| slangasek | infinity: why would we accept something into -proposed without an SRU bug? | 14:51 |
| Nafallo | hopefully the bug is listed in the changelog then | 14:52 |
| slangasek | yes, that's how it works | 14:52 |
| infinity | slangasek: We really shouldn't. Just sayin'. :P | 14:52 |
| slangasek | infinity: oh, btw | 14:52 |
| slangasek | Binary files i386/usr/share/man/man8/pam_shells.8.gz and amd64/usr/share/man/man8/pam_shells.8.gz differ | 14:52 |
| infinity | *^$!% | 14:52 |
| infinity | Also: fuck. | 14:52 |
| Nafallo | hrm. loads of bugs in the changelog, but none for the SRU itself I don't think. | 14:53 |
| slangasek | Nafallo: it doesn't matter, we don't *want* placeholder SRU bugs in the changelog | 14:53 |
| infinity | No, but each of those bugs will need verification, so pick one and fail it. :P | 14:53 |
| slangasek | yes | 14:53 |
| Nafallo | heh | 14:54 |
| infinity | slangasek: Here's a question, do the differing files match the differences from the last build? | 14:56 |
| slangasek | infinity: the good news is, armel and i386 are the same this time... so we're down to one random variation instead of two :P | 14:56 |
| slangasek | infinity: checking | 14:56 |
| infinity | slangasek: (ie: is this deterministic and repeatable, and we just don't know how to determine the repeatable steps yet?) | 14:56 |
| infinity | slangasek: The part where armel wasn't as broken as last time, while amd64 is, is a bit shaky already. :/ | 14:57 |
| slangasek | infinity: yes, amd64's pam_shells.8.gz came out the same in both runs | 14:57 |
| infinity | Unless it relates to what machine it built on... | 14:57 |
| slangasek | but *different* than when I run gzip here | 14:57 |
| infinity | slangasek: Same machine for both amd64 builds? | 14:57 |
| infinity | (And different for both armel builds?) | 14:57 |
| slangasek | haven't looked; will look later | 14:57 |
| infinity | I can look. | 14:57 |
| bdmurray | why are duplicates of bug 870281 still coming in? | 14:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 870281 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu Oneiric) "installer crash when user choose to install additional software: http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.3.183.10.orig.tar.gz doesn't exist" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/870281 | 14:58 |
| bdmurray | would it just be an out of date mirror? | 14:59 |
| bdmurray | http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/multiverse flashplugin-downloader i386 10.3.183.10ubuntu5 | 14:59 |
| charlie-tca | It still happens on some fresh installs | 15:00 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: yep, sounds like an out-of-date mirror then | 15:00 |
| infinity | slangasek: amd64 builds were both on allspice, armel builds were on a babbage (broken) and a panda (not broken). | 15:00 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: escalate to IS? | 15:00 |
| infinity | slangasek: I don't know what this means, but it might at least mean this wouldbe debuggable with hardware access. | 15:01 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: oh? | 15:01 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: current version of the package in the archive is 11.0.1.152ubuntu1, so nl mirror seems to be out of date; so that needs to get fixed, or the mirror taken out of the mirror list | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: right, in #ubuntu-mirrors now | 15:08 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: I've found 3 so far that are out of date | 15:10 |
| slangasek | yuck | 15:10 |
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| davmor2 | mvo, pitti: hey guy I got an issue with jockey and ati (post-release updates) it won't install the driver paste.ubuntu.com/706773 is jockey log, I'm assuming there is no driver and that is the issue but I expect it to install the current and then update to the latest if I select it. | 15:16 |
| didrocks | barry: hey, I tried your "from __future__ import unicode_literals", but I still get some "UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character", I guess that's due to the launchpad results I get, any trick? | 15:17 |
| barry | didrocks: wow, sorry, i've forgotten the details of our previous chat ;) | 15:18 |
| didrocks | barry: well, notC related for this time, but I raised that we recently got random UnicodeEncodeError: in oneiric (since starting september I would say) in various python apps (software-properties, apport, oneconf…) without any code change | 15:19 |
| didrocks | barry: and there, I have one when trying to write to a file, the data comes from launchpad, I guess I need to decode in ascii with just ignoring unicode character, or is there a smarter way? | 15:20 |
| barry | didrocks: ah right. i was also musing with mvo about this i think. i wondered whether the default encoding for the file had changed. | 15:20 |
| barry | didrocks: i don't remember how the data comes from lp. is it utf-8 text, latin1 or ascii text, bytes? | 15:21 |
| barry | i guess not ascii text though :) | 15:21 |
| didrocks | barry: it's utf-8 from what I remember (but it's not only with launchpad, the issue happened recently with loading translation for instance) | 15:22 |
| barry | didrocks: right, i'm remembering now | 15:22 |
| barry | didrocks: do you have an example that i can try to reproduce here locally? i can recommend a hammer to keep you going (basically using errors='replace' or errors='ignore'), but since this is coming up in several cases, it might be better to dig in a little on what's going on | 15:25 |
| didrocks | barry: if you are not afraid by using a french locale, yeah :) | 15:25 |
| barry | didrocks: well, maybe in a vm :) | 15:26 |
| barry | didrocks: english locales already freak me out :) | 15:26 |
| didrocks | barry: ahah ;) just "bzr branch lp:oneconf", and apply this patch to remove my workaround: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706780/ | 15:27 |
| didrocks | barry: then ./oneconf-query --help should badly fail | 15:28 |
| didrocks | (on french locale) | 15:28 |
| barry | didrocks: cool. it'll take a little bit to get the vm fired up, and i need to run out for lunch. let me get started on this and i'll ping you in a little while | 15:29 |
| didrocks | barry: sure! enjoy your lunch :) | 15:29 |
| barry | didrocks: thanks! (not fun though, i have to get my car emissions inspected :) | 15:29 |
| barry | -- and i'm already a month late | 15:29 |
| didrocks | urgh :/ | 15:30 |
| barry | yeah, when they threaten to suspend your registration, it's time to finally do it :) | 15:30 |
| barry | didrocks: anyway, is there a bug that i can comment on when i have some more information? | 15:30 |
| didrocks | barry: well, I closed it with the workaround, I'll open one and ping you back with it | 15:31 |
| barry | didrocks: perfect. feel free to subscribe me to it too | 15:31 |
| didrocks | will reference other recent issues we have as well | 15:31 |
| didrocks | sure | 15:31 |
| SpamapS | pitti: I didn't. | 15:37 |
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| pitti | davmor2: this log shows that the fglrx-updates driver has been installed just fine | 15:47 |
| pitti | davmor2: what's wrong with it? | 15:47 |
| davmor2 | pitti: Jockey exits and says check the log | 15:48 |
| davmor2 | pitti: also the interface says that it isn't installed | 15:49 |
| pitti | davmor2: can you please file a bug with that log and a description what happened? (need to run out in about 10 mins) | 15:49 |
| pitti | davmor2: I see one error there, but I need to discuss that with tseliot first | 15:49 |
| davmor2 | pitti: yeap no worries | 15:49 |
| pitti | davmor2: please let me know the number here | 15:49 |
| davmor2 | pitti: will do | 15:50 |
| tseliot | here I am | 15:50 |
| pitti | thanks | 15:50 |
| pitti | davmor2: the driver package is installed, though | 15:50 |
| pitti | tseliot: it says | 15:50 |
| pitti | ERROR: xorg:fglrx_updates: get_alternative_by_name(fglrx-updates) returned nothing | 15:50 |
| tseliot | pitti: that should be correct if the package hasn't been installed yet | 15:51 |
| pitti | tseliot: so either it's calling the nvidia-common alternatives handling wrongly (i. e. returning None is valid), or some symlinks are broken on that box? | 15:51 |
| pitti | tseliot: but it was | 15:51 |
| pitti | dkms completed and all that | 15:51 |
| pitti | it's before calling set_alternative(), though | 15:52 |
| pitti | tseliot: it's in ./data/handlers/fglrx.py line 90 apparently | 15:52 |
| pitti | tseliot: i. e. XorgDriverHandler.enable(self) finished, which does all teh "install pacakge" stuff | 15:52 |
| pitti | so it aborts and doesn't call set_alternative | 15:52 |
| pitti | admittedly I'm not sure what that does | 15:53 |
| pitti | davmor2: does the driver actually work? | 15:53 |
| tseliot | pitti, davmor2: the output of "update-alternatives --display x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf" and of "update-alternatives --display i386-linux-gnu_gl_conf" might help | 15:54 |
| davmor2 | pitti: unfortunately I need the system up and running so I installed the standard one after I got the logs for you so I'm not sure, I have a spare ati box to my left I can try it again there and capture it all for you | 15:54 |
| pitti | ok, thanks | 15:54 |
| * pitti waves good night then | 15:54 | |
| tseliot | ok, I guess I'll take off too then | 15:57 |
| Nafallo | slangasek: hey. I spoke to didrocks, and my bug is fixed already. he has a pending upload waiting to be accepted. just FYI etc :-) | 16:13 |
| Nafallo | infinity: ^-- | 16:13 |
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| infinity | Nafallo: Accepted to get people testing the new one. | 16:15 |
| Nafallo | infinity: \o/ ^-- didrocks :-) | 16:15 |
| didrocks | thanks infinity, Nafallo :) | 16:16 |
| didrocks | infinity: you need the new compiz and new compiz-plugins-main | 16:16 |
| infinity | didrocks: Yeah, I accepted both. | 16:16 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 16:16 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: postgresql successfully built. Could you redirect the two other armel builds, so I can push the update while we investigate? | 16:19 |
| slangasek | Nafallo: ok - did you still mark the bug verification-failed? :P | 16:28 |
| Nafallo | slangasek: I did, but revert once it didn't fix the issue. | 16:28 |
| mdeslaur | lamont: looks like pitti is gone. Could you redirect my two postgresql builds to the old armel builders? | 16:28 |
| Nafallo | slangasek: it seems to be some combination bug with various compiz packages involved. I poked didrocks instead when I got confused enough :-) | 16:29 |
| didrocks | slangasek: there is a new bug covering this issue in the latest upload (it's a regression) | 16:30 |
| slangasek | didrocks: is it a regression between the version in the release pocket and the one in the proposed pocket? | 16:30 |
| didrocks | slangasek: right | 16:30 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: Did you two determine earlier that postgres fails on pandas? | 16:31 |
| slangasek | didrocks: then it is CRITICAL to document this on one of the SRU-linked bug reports from the previous upload with the verification-failed tag | 16:31 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: Any plan to debug that on scheat? | 16:31 |
| slangasek | otherwise, SRU team members who aren't sitting here in this conversation right now don't know not to publish it | 16:31 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: pitti was looking for a panda server he could play with to figure it out | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | (and might not remember even if they were in this conversation - I process SRUs to -updates mostly in robot mode) | 16:32 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: That would be scheat. | 16:32 |
| didrocks | slangasek: hum? the new upload in -proposed overwrite the previous version, ,isn't it? | 16:32 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: I told him about it too. :P | 16:32 |
| Daviey | uh? | 16:32 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: do you have the magic permissions required to redirect my two builds to the old builders for now? | 16:33 |
| Daviey | didrocks: re-using the same version string for a -proposed upload that was rejected? | 16:33 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: Where are these builds you needed bounced to specific machines? | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | oh, if there's a new version in -proposed already, that should be fine | 16:33 |
| didrocks | Daviey: no, a new upload with a new version as the version in -proposed has been published | 16:33 |
| Daviey | ahh. cool. | 16:33 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: they are in the security ppa, postgresql-8.4 on maverick and natty | 16:33 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: yeah, there is no chance the previous version to be published in -updates, right? | 16:33 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: I might not have access to your PPA. But if you retry them, I'll make sure they land where they need to be. | 16:34 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: ok, hitting the retry button now | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | didrocks: no | 16:34 |
| didrocks | thanks cjwatson | 16:34 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: done | 16:35 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: And done. | 16:35 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: Just the two builds, right? | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: one started on actinidiaceae, and the other on adoxaceae | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: yeah, just those two. Thanks a bunch. | 16:36 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: I'm not in the security team anymore, so all I see is "Private Source". ;) | 16:36 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: But thanks for confirming. | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: t0p s3cr3t | 16:36 |
| slangasek | didrocks: has the new upload to -proposed been accepted into -proposed yet? | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: yes, it's in the publishinghistory | 16:39 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: ok then :) | 16:42 |
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| slangasek | infinity: loving this bug now | 17:00 |
| slangasek | infinity: are there magic ssseeee2222 optimizations in zlib1g? | 17:01 |
| slangasek | (did I get enough esses in that? I'm not sure) | 17:01 |
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| infinity | slangasek: I really hope not. | 17:08 |
| infinity | slangasek: Also, I couldn't reproduce it on kakadu. :/ | 17:08 |
| Nafallo | I tried out didrocks new binaries. They work for me. what do I need to do next? :-) | 17:08 |
| infinity | slangasek: So, my babbage versus panda theories are tenuous. | 17:08 |
| slangasek | You assume all babbages are broken the same way? ;) | 17:09 |
| infinity | slangasek: *headdesk* | 17:10 |
| Laney | bdmurray: your script seems to hit bugs multiple times, for example bug 871548 | 17:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 871548 in guichan (Ubuntu) "Library does not load in Ubuntu 11.10 due to missing symbols" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871548 | 17:24 |
| bdmurray | Laney: it doesn't check to see if the sponsors team has been removed yet | 17:25 |
| bdmurray | Laney: I'll see if I can squeeze that in today | 17:26 |
| Laney | awesome | 17:27 |
| Laney | :-) | 17:27 |
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| bryceh | jml, are you still experiencing bug #849782? seems our diagnostics aren't turning up anything useful so far, and I'm wondering about maybe forwarding it upstream if it still occurs. | 18:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 849782 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Screen jitters every so often, especially when laptop under load" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/849782 | 18:27 |
| davmor2 | pitti: sorry for the delay work got in the way, doing the 64bit install on the spare box now I'll let you know once I file the bug the number | 18:56 |
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| slangasek | seb128: 736153> oh, you assigned this to freetype? freetype doesn't choose the glyphs, fwiw | 20:11 |
| seb128 | slangasek, fontconfig does? ;-) | 20:12 |
| slangasek | no, pango | 20:12 |
| seb128 | hum, k | 20:12 |
| seb128 | I've not clue about fonts :p | 20:12 |
| slangasek | freetype just renders the glyph it's asked for :) | 20:12 |
| seb128 | slangasek, feel free to reassign at the right place, g-c-c was just wrong ;-) | 20:12 |
| seb128 | slangasek, thanks | 20:12 |
| slangasek | yep - reassigned already | 20:12 |
| slangasek | but it's fontconfig - picks which fonts to use; pango - picks which glyphs are needed for a string; freetype - turns those glyphs into graphics | 20:13 |
| davmor2 | pitti: bug 873058 with recorded video, if there are any logs etc that you need I've not added the driver this time, so I can do any tests that you need doing | 20:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 873058 in jockey (Ubuntu) "Jockey fail to install binary ati driver (post release) version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873058 | 20:16 |
| jml | bryceh: yes, I am. | 21:01 |
| jml | bryceh: whenever my system is under load or when I'm watching youtube videos | 21:01 |
| jdstrand | broder: hi! you have a work item from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-o-catch-all: "[broder] write a script to report -backports packages that need an update due to -security" | 21:13 |
| jdstrand | broder: whatever happened to this? | 21:14 |
| jdstrand | broder: iirc, you weren't in the session, but ScottK said it was something you were already working on | 21:14 |
| bryceh | jml, great thanks | 21:26 |
| jml | bryceh: I can demonstrate in Orlando, if that will help | 21:27 |
| bryceh | jml, maybe... I'm guessing that the issue is that the driver's not able to keep the gfx pipeline full 100% and when it isn't the monitor glitches | 21:28 |
| bryceh | but I'm not sure how to prove or disprove that, so it's kind of a useless guess :-/ | 21:29 |
| bryceh | jml, what I think I'll do is forward your bug upstream; maybe they can shed more light on it | 21:29 |
| jml | bryceh: ok. thanks. | 21:29 |
| bryceh | jml, oh one thing you could doublecheck... boot a natty livecd and just verify that you definitely aren't seeing the issue in natty | 21:30 |
| jml | bryceh: ok. I can do that. (although not tonight, I'll make a note.) I'll also try to reproduce on a clean oneiric live stick, as I don't think I have yet. | 21:31 |
| bryceh | that'll help eliminate any chance it's just hardware (e.g. degraded power supply), and firm up the known-good side of the regression | 21:31 |
| bryceh | jml, thanks | 21:31 |
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| jml | bryceh: I'm guessing the fix won't be in the release anyway :) | 21:32 |
| bryceh | jml, nope | 21:34 |
| bryceh | jml, chance of an SRU though. we'll see | 21:34 |
| barry | cr3: ping | 21:49 |
| cr3 | barry: pong, what's up? | 21:51 |
| barry | cr3: did we talk recently about UnicodeEncodeErrors with i18n? | 21:51 |
| cr3 | barry: that rings a bell but I wouldn't remember the specifics though | 21:52 |
| barry | cr3: okay, i was talking to didrocks earlier today about a similar problem, which i figured out. i thought at the time maybe it was mvo i'd talked to, but now i think it was you. anyway, i could forward you the message i sent to didrocks about it if you care, or you can just read my blog post about it when i publish it :) | 21:55 |
| cr3 | barry: I haven't found a place for blogs in my life, so I'd be very interested in an email forward. thanks for following up! | 21:58 |
| barry | cr3: will send... | 21:59 |
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| broder | jdstrand: yeah, sorry - didn't happen. should be postponed | 22:19 |
| broder | bah. it would be nice if do-release-upgrade would drop me to a shell or something to recover instead of just bailing when something went wrong | 22:20 |
| jdstrand | broder: ok | 22:22 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: hmm, does apturl work for you at all? | 22:26 |
| slangasek | fails for me with a missing-icon error | 22:27 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: yes it seems to work for me | 22:30 |
| slangasek | ok | 22:31 |
| slangasek | guess I should file a different bug :) | 22:31 |
| tumbleweed | broder: that is something that should be quite easy to do in a UDD query | 22:47 |
| broder | tumbleweed: hmm, i hadn't thought of that | 22:47 |
| broder | i was going to go do awful things with lplib | 22:47 |
| broder | but i still won't have time to implement it before tomorrow | 22:47 |
| * tumbleweed just tried a few ideas, but they are turning up 0 results. That could just mean that the backports team is on top of things... :P | 22:48 | |
| broder | unlikely | 22:48 |
| broder | SpamapS: what's the deal with the network configuration thing? i thought i just needed to remove eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces and let NM deal... | 22:48 |
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| tumbleweed | Laney: do you know anything about the ubuntu_sources UDD import? It only has the release pocket (and has some pretty unecessary columns) | 22:51 |
| broder | geez...i don't think i've ever broken my system this badly on an upgrade before... | 22:51 |
| Laney | no | 22:51 |
| SpamapS | broder: indeed, that should do it. | 22:52 |
| Laney | i only did the ubuntu_upload_history one | 22:52 |
| Laney | lucas: ^^^ | 22:52 |
| broder | i think.../run isn't getting bind-mounted onto /var/run... | 22:52 |
| SpamapS | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2011-10-08 19:20 /var/run -> /run | 22:52 |
| SpamapS | no, its a symlink | 22:52 |
| broder | mine isn't | 22:53 |
| SpamapS | I did upgrade a long time ago.. | 22:53 |
| SpamapS | so its possible I missed one of those "hey everybody if you already upgraded do this" emails | 22:54 |
| broder | no, it looks like that's what the base-files postinst is supposed to do | 22:54 |
| broder | ...i wonder what would happen if i changed my sources.list entries back to natty and re-ran the upgrade | 22:55 |
| broder | nope | 22:55 |
| ajmitch | broder: how badly have you broken it? | 22:56 |
| broder | well, apparently the /var/run -> /run migration code didn't run, so i'm going to go with "badly" | 22:56 |
| slangasek | broder: is /etc/rc6.d a mess? | 22:56 |
| slangasek | do you have vmware packages installed? | 22:56 |
| broder | slangasek: i do! | 22:56 |
| broder | (rc6.d is not a mess) | 22:57 |
| slangasek | yeah, vmware has decided you don't need a shutdown "sequence", hth | 22:57 |
| slangasek | broder: are you sure it's not a mess? possibly with 'reboot' and 'umount' scripts running in parallel? :P | 22:57 |
| slangasek | is this a leading question? | 22:57 |
| slangasek | bug #858122 | 22:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 858122 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "incomplete migration to /run (shutdown script order has been demolished)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/858122 | 22:58 |
| slangasek | hmm, except there was another bug that talked explicitly about the vmware problem | 22:58 |
| broder | oh good grief | 22:59 |
| broder | slangasek: so is there a reasonable way to clean this up, or do i have to settle for the unreasonable way of just fixing up /var/run and /var/lock by hand? | 23:01 |
| slangasek | broder: well, you can fix rc6.d by hand and then reboot... then /etc/rc6.d/S60umountroot will take care of it for you | 23:02 |
| slangasek | realistically you need to reboot afterwards anyway, so that might be simplest | 23:03 |
| slangasek | not finding the bug that explains vmware being at fault, hrm | 23:04 |
| broder | weird that this only happened on one of my machines - i upgraded another one with vmplayer installed and that was fine | 23:05 |
| broder | maybe it's workstation specific? i've only ever had that installed on this one, though i don't currently | 23:05 |
| slangasek | that sounds correct | 23:05 |
| broder | err, "don't have it installed currently" | 23:06 |
| slangasek | broder: you do have reboot with a link of something like S03reboot though, right? | 23:06 |
| slangasek | instead of S90 like it's meant to have? | 23:06 |
| broder | yeah | 23:06 |
| slangasek | yeah, that's the symptom | 23:06 |
| broder | the whole order is screwed up - almost all of htem are S03, except for urandom and casper which are S04 | 23:06 |
| slangasek | heh | 23:07 |
| slangasek | been getting much disk corruption on reboot lately? | 23:07 |
| broder | wouldn't have noticed | 23:07 |
| broder | dbus wasn't starting because /var/run/dbus/pid was sticking around | 23:08 |
| broder | it goes downhill from there pretty quickly | 23:08 |
| broder | actually, i guess one of my disks got ejected from the raid 1... | 23:09 |
| slangasek | right, I mean corruption *prior* to upgrade... since the rc6 screwup probably happened some time in the past | 23:10 |
| slangasek | oh, here it is. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/sysvinit/+bug/616287 | 23:12 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 616287 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Natty) "umountfs doesn't cleanly unmount / on reboot" [High,Triaged] | 23:12 |
| slangasek | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/sysvinit/+bug/616287/comments/93 | 23:12 |
| bryceh | GrueMaster, here's your next airline cost-cutting move - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/12/ryanair-removing-toilets-planes-seats_n_1006604.html | 23:21 |
| GrueMaster | NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! | 23:23 |
| bryceh | but if no loo, just do the Depardieu | 23:25 |
| slangasek | Ryanair, motto: "We love to fly on a different airline" | 23:25 |
| sladen | GrueMaster: I assume it's going to hit the same issue as the last time around: the airframe is certified for X seats, and that's the same X that Ryanair already have fitted. There is a mandated ratio of X passengers to Y staff … and so would require an additional member of staff too | 23:26 |
| GrueMaster | I'd say charge extra for the toilets and consider them "Executive Class". | 23:39 |
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