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| GTRsdk | I'd like to help | 02:15 |
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| micahg | oops, a better gnash snapshot was uploaded 10 days ago :(, I guess it's SRU time for it | 06:03 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | mornin | 07:05 |
| ajmitch | morning | 07:09 |
| micahg | good evening ajmitch | 07:09 |
| ajmitch | so everything's ready for release now? :) | 07:12 |
| micahg | Debian RC bug list is huge :( | 07:14 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I didn't even take much of a look at it lately, I guess there could be plenty of chances for SRUs | 07:14 |
| micahg | there are probably for the previous releases as well :) | 07:15 |
| * ajmitch has to check the version tracking on that rc bugs list, first one I like at, the ubuntu version is below the found version for the debian bug | 07:15 | |
| ajmitch | given how hacky it is, the bug list might be cut down a bit just by fixing that :) | 07:16 |
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| Angelo | Hi!! :-) | 10:44 |
| Angelo | I'd like to start working with the motu team | 10:44 |
| Angelo | what could I do? | 10:44 |
| nigelb | At this very moment, there's very little to because its release day tomorrow. | 10:47 |
| nigelb | But there's a lot of stuff you could do | 10:47 |
| nigelb | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing is a good page | 10:49 |
| Angelo | :-) Thank you nigelb :-) | 10:50 |
| Angelo | ok | 10:51 |
| Angelo | I looked at that | 10:51 |
| Angelo | and I have a problem with pbuilder | 10:52 |
| nigelb | Are you getting an erro fo some sort? | 10:52 |
| Angelo | yes | 10:52 |
| Angelo | this is the error: sudo pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd | 10:53 |
| Angelo | sorry | 10:53 |
| Angelo | this: "Someone else has lock over /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz.tmp, waiting" | 10:53 |
| Angelo | and its loop | 10:53 |
| Angelo | (sorry for my english, im italian) | 10:54 |
| nigelb | I'm not an exxpert, maybe if you wait, someone will be able to help you | 10:54 |
| * nigelb pokes Laney, meanwhile | 10:54 | |
| Angelo | ok | 10:54 |
| Angelo | thank you nigelb | 10:54 |
| nigelb | np :) | 10:54 |
| Angelo | :-) | 10:54 |
| Angelo | someone could help me? | 11:07 |
| Laney | bah | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | Laney: problem? | 11:19 |
| Laney | he left | 11:19 |
| ajmitch | ah, the usual | 11:19 |
| * ajmitch has a different pbuilder problem with sid, is most annoying :) | 11:19 | |
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| ajmitch | right, done enough paid work for the evening, time to sleep | 11:27 |
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| Angelo | Ciao | 16:45 |
| Angelo | Hi!! :-) | 16:47 |
| tumbleweed | Angelo: it helps if you stay here. Someone tried to reply to you, but you'd gone. I suggest leaving an irc client open, or using something like irccloud | 16:47 |
| tumbleweed | Angelo: what's in your pbuilderrc ? | 16:48 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: ah... ok. Thank you | 16:48 |
| Angelo | when I create the pbuilder there's a message that tells that someone else is locking the file | 16:49 |
| tumbleweed | yes, you said. What's in your .pbuilderrc ? | 16:49 |
| tumbleweed | I'm assuming you haven't set it up for multiple distros? | 16:49 |
| tumbleweed | you can probably just delete /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz* | 16:50 |
| Angelo | ah, sorry...ok | 16:50 |
| tumbleweed | but before you create a new one, you may want to set it up, following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 16:50 |
| Angelo | this line: COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" | 16:50 |
| tumbleweed | (or just use pbuilder-dist) | 16:50 |
| Angelo | no I didnt delete /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz | 16:51 |
| tumbleweed | it's safe to | 16:51 |
| Angelo | I followed that guide, but the error (sorry if I didnt tell u before) was about base.tgz.temp file | 16:52 |
| tumbleweed | I was suggesting setting it up for multiple releases now, because otherwise you'll be creating new base images anyway, when you get there | 16:53 |
| tumbleweed | Angelo: just try deleting that file | 16:53 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: ok. So I should delete only base.tgz.temp? | 16:54 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 16:54 |
| tumbleweed | (I'm just guessing, but it can't hurt to delete it) | 16:54 |
| Angelo | and start again with pbuilder create? | 16:54 |
| Angelo | ok! :-)) | 16:55 |
| Angelo | It's what I thought, but I didnt know it | 16:55 |
| Angelo | thank u!! | 16:55 |
| Angelo | :-) | 16:55 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: and u speak italian right? :-)) | 16:56 |
| tumbleweed | Angelo: very poorly, I'm afraid | 16:56 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: ahaha...ok | 16:56 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: I just saw your real name | 16:56 |
| * tumbleweed lies in ZA, never spent enough time in italy to pick up the language, but I can get around... | 16:57 | |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: so i'm deleting it | 16:57 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: I couldnt delete it | 16:58 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: access denied | 16:59 |
| tumbleweed | sudo rm :) | 17:00 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: DONE! :-)) I didnt remember that. Im new with ubuntu :-) | 17:01 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: thank u :-) | 17:01 |
| tumbleweed | np | 17:01 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: now is creating the file | 17:02 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: before I read what u write..... but I have a problem at home (maybe I will explain) and I disconnect for that reason | 17:02 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: what are u doing in ubuntu? | 17:03 |
| tumbleweed | easy answer: my wiki page is mostly up to date https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StefanoRivera | 17:04 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: ok! | 17:05 |
| * jussi waves to tumbleweed and offers more salmiakki liquer :D | 17:05 | |
| * tumbleweed guesses he'd better bring some amarula to UDS then | 17:06 | |
| jussi | tumbleweed: unfortunately I wont be there... | 17:06 |
| tumbleweed | so it goes :/ | 17:06 |
| jussi | tumbleweed: I have a good reason though :D | 17:06 |
| pdtpatrick | tumbleweed.. how does one get involved as you did? I'm also trying to get into python related | 17:07 |
| pdtpatrick | packages | 17:07 |
| tumbleweed | pdtpatrick: you just start, and ask for help | 17:07 |
| tumbleweed | find something that's bugging you, and fix it | 17:08 |
| pdtpatrick | "bugging me" :) | 17:08 |
| pdtpatrick | going to have to recreate my environment and keys .. upload and get started | 17:08 |
| tumbleweed | if you just want to help out generally, each phase of the release has different areas that need attention | 17:08 |
| tumbleweed | right now, it's probably a good idea to look for release critical bugs that were fixed in debian, but we missed the fixes for: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ | 17:09 |
| tumbleweed | if any of those are serious enough, we can put out -updates fixes (SRUs) for them | 17:09 |
| pdtpatrick | well i'm currently a sysAdmin myself and do most things python/bash/django but wanted to help out and at the same time gain more experience with python along the way. | 17:09 |
| tumbleweed | lots of ubuntu's infrastructure is written in python, many of the recent websites are django, so there are a few areas you could help out in | 17:11 |
| pdtpatrick | Okay .. going to read the getting started page and then proceed from there. Will ask questions here if i get lost somewhere | 17:11 |
| tumbleweed | please do | 17:11 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: I read your page and launchpad too :-). Thank u | 17:12 |
| * tumbleweed heads off out to dinner | 17:17 | |
| * Laney wibbles | 17:18 | |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: Hi! :-) | 17:18 |
| cdunlap | Hello | 17:43 |
| cdunlap | I noticed that there are a number of packages that fail to build on armel. | 17:43 |
| cdunlap | and this might be a newbie question but can you build armel packages on a i386 arch? Is there a way to do it? | 17:44 |
| Angelo | I go for dinner | 17:56 |
| jtaylor | cdunlap: pbuilder-dist dist armel create | 17:58 |
| cdunlap | jtaylor: Thank You. I appreciate the information | 18:01 |
| c_korn | where is the "get-build-deps" command in oneiric? | 18:11 |
| Laney | gone | 18:11 |
| Laney | sudo mk-build-deps -i -r | 18:11 |
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| c_korn | thanks, Laney | 18:14 |
| murrayc | I'm trying to hack a package together, but I'm getting this error: | 18:35 |
| murrayc | dpkg-shlibdeps: | 18:35 |
| murrayc | I mean, dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libgda-5.0.so.4 | 18:35 |
| murrayc | But that library is built by the package itself. | 18:35 |
| murrayc | $ find . -name "libgda-5.0.so.4" | 18:35 |
| murrayc | ./debian/tmp/usr/lib/libgda-5.0.so.4 | 18:35 |
| murrayc | ./libgda/.libs/libgda-5.0.so.4 | 18:35 |
| murrayc | Presumably I have a typo somewhere, but I can't figure it out. | 18:36 |
| azeem | murrayc: did you check the SONAME with objdump? | 18:36 |
| azeem | also, is this more than one binary package, and if so, where is the binary that dpkg-shlibdeps complains about? | 18:37 |
| murrayc | azeem: How would I use objdump to do that? | 18:38 |
| murrayc | azeem: Well, here is the full error: | 18:38 |
| murrayc | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libgda-5.0.so.4 needed by debian/libgda-5.0-bin/usr/bin/gda-list-config-5.0 (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '') | 18:38 |
| azeem | objdump -x ./debian/tmp/usr/lib/libgda-5.0.so.4 | grep SONAME | 18:38 |
| azeem | murrayc: probably debian/tmp isn't installed into any package, so it skips it | 18:39 |
| azeem | isn't there a debian/libgda-5.0/usr/lib/libgda-5.0.so.4 as well? | 18:39 |
| murrayc | azeem: SONAME libgda-5.0.so.4 | 18:39 |
| azeem | ok | 18:40 |
| murrayc | azeem: No | 18:40 |
| murrayc | I guess there should indeed be. | 18:40 |
| azeem | murrayc: is libgda-5.0.so.4 getting shipped in any binary package then? | 18:40 |
| azeem | if not, that'd be enough reason for the error | 18:40 |
| murrayc | Yes, it should be. | 18:40 |
| azeem | ok | 18:40 |
| murrayc | more debian/libgda-5.0.install | 18:41 |
| murrayc | usr/lib/libgda*.so.* | 18:41 |
| murrayc | usr/lib/libgda*/providers/libgda-sqlite.so | 18:41 |
| murrayc | usr/lib/libgda*/providers/libgda-web.so | 18:41 |
| murrayc | Which I guess should take care of that. | 18:41 |
| azeem | yeah | 18:41 |
| murrayc | I am just hacking the libgda-4.0 package to be a libgda-5.0 package. | 18:41 |
| azeem | murrayc: the library package is libgda-4.0-4 at least on Debian | 18:43 |
| azeem | so it should likely be libgda-5.0-4 as well | 18:43 |
| azeem | murrayc: check that debian/control actually references libgda-5.0 | 18:43 |
| azeem | (as a binary package) | 18:44 |
| murrayc | Actually, there were some -1 mentions. I've removed them and I'll try again. | 18:44 |
| murrayc | I assumed that I could just remove the -4. | 18:44 |
| azeem | regular library packages encode the sonmae | 18:44 |
| azeem | soname* | 18:44 |
| azeem | so libgda-5.0-4 would be correct | 18:45 |
| murrayc | OK. Thanks. | 18:45 |
| azeem | it's unclear what the 5.0 is good for if binary compat hasn't changed but oh well | 18:45 |
| murrayc | I'll try to add that back then. | 18:45 |
| murrayc | azeem: Maybe upstream just forgot to reset the shared libary version. | 18:45 |
| jtaylor | the library name has changed | 18:45 |
| murrayc | It's meant to be totallly parallel installable. | 18:45 |
| jtaylor | so you can restart the soversion | 18:46 |
| azeem | murrayc: that's what the 5.0 vs. 4.0 is good for I guess | 18:46 |
| azeem | just make sure the package name in debian/control and the debian/<package>.* files match | 18:46 |
| jtaylor | for library only packages so soversion alone is enough | 18:46 |
| murrayc | azeem: Thanks. Trying again after fixing that. I had no idea, as usual. | 18:51 |
| azeem | cheers | 18:51 |
| murrayc | azeem: control is generated from control.in, and the -1 is only in the control. | 18:53 |
| murrayc | azeem: So where does that -1 come from? | 18:53 |
| azeem | hrm | 18:53 |
| azeem | can you pastebin control.in? | 18:53 |
| murrayc | azeem: In a moment, after I've checked something. | 18:53 |
| azeem | np, I'm looking at the old source package | 18:53 |
| azeem | should be enough | 18:53 |
| azeem | murrayc: debian/rules has "SONAME := 4" in the old package, did you change that? | 18:55 |
| azeem | debian/control should get generated from control.in by replacing @SONAME@ with $SONAME, i.e. 4 | 18:55 |
| murrayc | azeem: Yes, I must have. | 18:56 |
| murrayc | To 1 | 18:56 |
| azeem | I think it's best to change that back | 18:57 |
| murrayc | OK | 18:57 |
| murrayc | Trying again. It takes a while. | 18:57 |
| Laney | 4.0 is the API version? | 18:58 |
| murrayc | 5.0 | 18:59 |
| murrayc | Of course I'd rather that the experts packaged all the Glom dependencies, but in the meantime I'm trying to hack some packages together for the PPA. | 18:59 |
| Laney | so they broke API again? | 18:59 |
| azeem | 5.0 should be the upstream version, SOVERSION is 4 AFAICT | 19:00 |
| azeem | i.e. the number a fter the .so | 19:00 |
| murrayc | Yes. 5.0 has been going for about a year now. Should hit stable in a few weeks. | 19:00 |
| Laney | so it should be libgda-5.0-5? | 19:00 |
| azeem | 20:32 < murrayc> ./libgda/.libs/libgda-5.0.so.4 | 19:00 |
| Laney | API = 5.0, major component of SONAME = 5 | 19:00 |
| azeem | but maybe they'll switch before release? | 19:00 |
| murrayc | It doesn't have so many users so the break is not generally that annoying. It's just awkward to get the new packages into the distros. | 19:00 |
| Laney | so SONAME in rules should be 5 and you should rename any libgda-4.0 or libgda4 to be 5.0 or 5 | 19:01 |
| murrayc | azeem: They can't reduce it because there were unstable tarball releases. | 19:01 |
| Laney | in control.in and all files in debian/, and all paths therein | 19:01 |
| azeem | right | 19:01 |
| murrayc | Why should it have any relation to libgda-4.0 whatsoever? Why 5? | 19:01 |
| murrayc | azeem: It builds! | 19:03 |
| murrayc | azeem: Obvious stuff to you, I guess. | 19:03 |
| azeem | yay | 19:03 |
| Laney | erm, because they bumped the API version to 5.0? | 19:04 |
| Laney | and 5 is the SONAME | 19:04 |
| azeem | 20:36 < murrayc> azeem: SONAME libgda-5.0.so.4 | 19:04 |
| Laney | oh ok | 19:05 |
| azeem | 20:57 < azeem> but maybe they'll switch before release? | 19:05 |
| * Laney shrugs | 19:05 | |
| Laney | carry on | 19:05 |
| murrayc | Laney: Thanks anyway | 19:06 |
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| Angelo | hello! | 20:08 |
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| Angelo | I have a problem with dget, someone would help me? | 20:25 |
| tumbleweed | Angelo: no need to ask to ask a question, just ask it - state the problem | 20:26 |
| Angelo | ahah.. ok | 20:26 |
| Angelo | This is the error that I have had running dget: turpial_1.5.0~rc1-1~natty1.dsc: dscverify: turpial_1.5.0~rc1-1~natty1.dsc failed signature check: gpg: non sono stati trovati dati OpenPGP validi. gpg: processing message failed: eof Validation FAILED!! | 20:27 |
| tumbleweed | you don't have the key of the developer who uploaded that package. That's normal, we don't provide a keyring of all the developers public keys | 20:28 |
| micahg | quite impossible in ubuntu as a different key could be used for each upload and discarded | 20:28 |
| Angelo | (the part in italian means that the system didnt found valid OpenPGP data) | 20:29 |
| tumbleweed | you can get the key yourself, and verify that you trust it, or download the soruce with apt-get source / pull-lp-source | 20:29 |
| Angelo | ah, ok.... | 20:29 |
| tumbleweed | (or just trust that it wasn't tampered with, that's the easy answer) | 20:29 |
| Angelo | so what should i do to use dget? I never used a key for that | 20:32 |
| Angelo | I registered 2 keys on launchpad | 20:32 |
| Angelo | but never used | 20:32 |
| tumbleweed | dget is verifying the signature on the source package that you are downloading. It was signed by the person who uploaded it | 20:34 |
| ajmitch | if you don't care about validating every signature, use the -u option to dget | 20:34 |
| Angelo | ah ok..... thank you! | 20:36 |
| ScottK | And then there are the packages on LP that don't have a signature at all. | 20:36 |
| Angelo | and do u use verifying the signature usually? (sorry for my english :-) ) | 20:37 |
| Angelo | Now I go | 20:48 |
| Angelo | see u tomorrow! | 20:48 |
| Angelo | tumbleweed: thank you for your help | 20:48 |
| Angelo | micahg: thank u too | 20:49 |
| Angelo | ajmitch: I used the option and it seems it worked. thanks | 20:50 |
| Angelo | bye!! | 20:50 |
| Angelo | :-) | 20:50 |
| highvoltage | hey how are things going? | 21:34 |
| ajmitch | hi highvoltage | 21:34 |
| highvoltage | howdy ajmitch | 21:34 |
| shayonj | once you have submitted the package to REVU, does the package still needs to be marked as "In progress" ? | 21:39 |
| tumbleweed | hi highvoltage | 21:42 |
| tumbleweed | shayonj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status | 21:42 |
| shayonj | tumbleweed, ah, missed the page.thanks :) | 21:45 |
| tumbleweed | shayonj: we strongly recommend getting new packages into Debian if possible, and letting them flow into Ubuntu that way | 21:47 |
| shayonj | tumbleweed, oh i see. So is it fine if i upload to Debian after i did to REVU ? | 21:48 |
| shayonj | i mean from next time onwards i will take care of that, but what about the one i already did ? | 21:48 |
| tumbleweed | shayonj: not many people look at REVU. You can probably get it into Debian before anyone has even commented on it on REVU | 21:50 |
| shayonj | tumbleweed, sounds good. thanks :) | 21:50 |
| Laney | but it can't hurt to put a comment saying what you've done | 21:51 |
| tumbleweed | yes, that would probably be sensible :) | 21:53 |
| shayonj | hah, definitely | 21:54 |
| Laney | phew, i remembered to update | 21:55 |
| Laney | in before release rush | 21:55 |
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