[00:17] <G> hads: hey are you the same hads that wrote tv_grab_nz-py by any chance?
[00:26] <ajmitch> probably a good chance it is hads, given the stuff that he does with tv tuners & the like
[00:51] <mwhudson> grr
[00:51] <mwhudson> why does virtualbox host only networking not survive host suspend/resume?
[00:55] <Atamira> its only doing it to peeve you off mwhudson
[00:57] <mwhudson> heh
[00:57] <G> mwhudson: who wants to support/resume their virtual host servers :)
[00:57] <G> *suspend
[00:57] <ajmitch> like testing stuff on your laptop? :)
[00:57] <mwhudson> G: 100% of the people surveyed whose opinion i cared about
[00:58] <mwhudson> (i.e. "me")
[00:58] <G> mwhudson: I'm sure the Sun/Oracle survey produced 0-1% :)
[00:58]  * ajmitch tends to use bridged networking in VMs, which has its own set of problems
[00:58] <mwhudson> it _may_ just be the DHCP server that dies on suspend resume
[00:59] <mwhudson> ajmitch: i use both :-)  host-only is to get a predictable ip address (in which case, why am i using DHCP... hm)
[00:59] <G> yeah, I just use bridges too, solves all the issues imo, but I know a lot don't like the idea
[00:59] <ajmitch> mwhudson: bridged gets me a predictable ip address, but that's with a dhcp server on another system
[01:00] <mwhudson> yeah, i don't control all the networks i connect to, sadly
[01:00] <G> and for me, I also get predictable DNS entries
[01:01] <G> mwhudson: ahhh yeah, that'd be a pain
[02:11] <hads> G: Yes that is me
[02:12] <G> hads: first off, very useful, been trying to do the same for mheg5 data, abiet a small roadblock :)
[02:13] <hads> G: Are you on the mythtvnz list? A couple of people have already done something there.
[02:13] <G> hads: yeah, there is iirc a Windows based one, and there is a shell script that really bugged me :)
[02:13] <hads> There's a bash script one and a python one. The Python one borrows code from epgsnoop from memory.
[02:14] <hads> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/482873
[02:14] <G> oooh hadn't seen the python one, I started one, but keep hitting dst issues :)
[02:15] <G> hads: anyway, just curious, is there a problem generating freeview.xml.gz today?
[02:15] <hads> There was, I did an rm * in the home directory of that VPS :)
[02:15] <hads> Should be fixed now.
[02:15] <G> oh right, whoops
[02:16] <G> hads: fwiw https://launchpad.net/pymheg2xmltv is what I'm messing with (using rb-download though)
[02:18] <hads> Cool thanks. I'd be interested in how you get on. I have meant to do something similar but have had too much on to look at much EPG related lately.
[02:18] <ojwb> is the actual data pretty much the same as you'd get from epgsnoop?
[02:19] <G> ojwb: Freeview HD uses MHEG5 instead of EIT
[02:19] <ojwb> I mean the higher level data
[02:19] <hads> The end data? That would be XMLTV, the stuff coming out of MHEG rather than EIT is completely different
[02:19] <G> hads: the big problem was I was taking a stab in the dark at how Freeview NZ handled DST
[02:19] <ojwb> the EIT stuff seems pretty poor quality on some channels - e.g. just giving the same description to every episode of a series
[02:19] <hads> ojwb: Yeah, all much of a much, there may be variations in titles/HD/descriptions etc.
[02:20] <hads> Oh that will be the same, it's all the same input data
[02:20] <G> hads: I'm going to take a crack at it later today so I'll let you know
[02:20] <hads> Have you seen the web services on nzepg
[02:20] <ojwb> and FOUR helpfully adding "this is not rugby" to every program while the rwc is on...
[02:21] <G> ojwb: haha yeah, that was/is a bit annoying :)
[02:21] <hads> Yeah I should have added a regex to get rid of that.
[02:21] <hads> G: http://nzepg.org/title-replacements/+json
[02:22] <hads> Various things like that to help with cleaning the data
[02:22] <G> hads: pretty sure the MHEG data doesn't have issues like that
[02:22] <G> but I'll see
[02:23] <hads> I think it does, crappy input from the people entering the data.
[02:23] <G> I know (Stratos?) have various spellings of the same show
[02:24] <G> but when it comes to picking a category from the SQLite DB I use a LIKE query so it's not an issue
[02:25] <hads> There's some crowd source category data too; http://nzepg.org/categories/+json
[02:25] <hads> This stuff is all from xmltv-proc-nz which you can feed an XMLTV input file
[02:26]  * ojwb doesn't really find categories so useful
[02:26] <hads> Right, work to be done.
[02:26] <G> hads: ohhh now that is interesting, I had written a little script to gather categories from tvdb
[02:27] <hads> xmltv-proc-nz has tvdb and tmdb processing too
[02:27] <G> hads: hmmm okay thanks
[02:27] <G> I'll look into it
[02:28] <hads> I wrote it so it can be used with any XMLTV source to augment the data at a later stage.
[02:30] <G> hads: I won't keep you from work, do you mind if I send you a quick e-mail at some point with a Q or two to pick your brain?
[02:30] <G> (To answer when you have time of course)
[02:31] <hads> Sure, hads@nice.net.nz
[02:31] <G> thanks
[18:23] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:36] <ibeardslee> a belated speaking of VirtalBox .. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw
[18:36] <ibeardslee> virtual box
[18:38] <ajmitch> morning
[20:26] <mwhudson> morning
[20:50] <Atamira> morning
[20:50] <Atamira> what a miserable morning
[21:07] <mwhudson> i guess it's a bit early on #ubuntu-release-party
[21:07] <ibeardslee> RC hasn't been released yet
[21:11] <ajmitch> so if I ask if it's out yet, I'll get told off?
[21:12] <ibeardslee> dunno .. let me know ;)
[21:13] <ajmitch> by this stage I'm unlikely to reinstall, so updates are pretty infrequent
[21:14] <ibeardslee> I spent last night fighting unity-2d
[21:14] <ibeardslee> trying to find out why unity won't run
[21:15] <ibeardslee> I had 3d goodness with maverick
[21:15]  * ajmitch spent last night fighting php
[21:16] <Atamira> i spent last night sleeping :P
[21:17] <ajmitch> lucky you :)
[21:19] <ajmitch> yay, LP timeout, lifeless will love that
[21:35] <mwhudson> yar
[21:36] <mwhudson> ajmitch: which page, out of curiosity?
[21:36] <mwhudson> bugs.launchpad.net/ seems to be suffering
[21:37] <ajmitch> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes
[21:38] <ajmitch> & also bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad when I was searching for a bug about the timeout
[21:39] <mwhudson> i wonder if it's "just" release-related load
[21:39] <mwhudson> or something else
[21:40] <ajmitch> probably release load, but I can't really check & find out
[21:41] <ibeardslee> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/
[21:42] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: all old there
[22:36] <hads> It's release time already?
[22:36] <hads> Huh, is too. I thought it was later in the month.
[23:37] <ibeardslee> well the schedule says it is release time .. but haven't seen anything about it .. or a Release Candidate
[23:52] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[23:52] <ajmitch> it's not like there aren't images to test :)
[23:53] <ibeardslee> I had downloaded a DVD image from http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily/
[23:53] <ibeardslee> but that failed to boot and I ended up giving up on importing it into my apt-cacher-ng cache
[23:54] <ajmitch> how far did it get in booting?
[23:54] <ibeardslee> straight to the HD
[23:54] <ibeardslee> after selecting the usb drive
[23:54] <ojwb> best release yet!