[00:17] hads: hey are you the same hads that wrote tv_grab_nz-py by any chance? [00:26] probably a good chance it is hads, given the stuff that he does with tv tuners & the like [00:51] grr [00:51] why does virtualbox host only networking not survive host suspend/resume? [00:55] its only doing it to peeve you off mwhudson [00:57] heh [00:57] mwhudson: who wants to support/resume their virtual host servers :) [00:57] *suspend [00:57] like testing stuff on your laptop? :) [00:57] G: 100% of the people surveyed whose opinion i cared about [00:58] (i.e. "me") [00:58] mwhudson: I'm sure the Sun/Oracle survey produced 0-1% :) [00:58] * ajmitch tends to use bridged networking in VMs, which has its own set of problems [00:58] it _may_ just be the DHCP server that dies on suspend resume [00:59] ajmitch: i use both :-) host-only is to get a predictable ip address (in which case, why am i using DHCP... hm) [00:59] yeah, I just use bridges too, solves all the issues imo, but I know a lot don't like the idea [00:59] mwhudson: bridged gets me a predictable ip address, but that's with a dhcp server on another system [01:00] yeah, i don't control all the networks i connect to, sadly [01:00] and for me, I also get predictable DNS entries [01:01] mwhudson: ahhh yeah, that'd be a pain [02:11] G: Yes that is me [02:12] hads: first off, very useful, been trying to do the same for mheg5 data, abiet a small roadblock :) [02:13] G: Are you on the mythtvnz list? A couple of people have already done something there. [02:13] hads: yeah, there is iirc a Windows based one, and there is a shell script that really bugged me :) [02:13] There's a bash script one and a python one. The Python one borrows code from epgsnoop from memory. [02:14] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/482873 [02:14] oooh hadn't seen the python one, I started one, but keep hitting dst issues :) [02:15] hads: anyway, just curious, is there a problem generating freeview.xml.gz today? [02:15] There was, I did an rm * in the home directory of that VPS :) [02:15] Should be fixed now. [02:15] oh right, whoops [02:16] hads: fwiw https://launchpad.net/pymheg2xmltv is what I'm messing with (using rb-download though) [02:18] Cool thanks. I'd be interested in how you get on. I have meant to do something similar but have had too much on to look at much EPG related lately. [02:18] is the actual data pretty much the same as you'd get from epgsnoop? [02:19] ojwb: Freeview HD uses MHEG5 instead of EIT [02:19] I mean the higher level data [02:19] The end data? That would be XMLTV, the stuff coming out of MHEG rather than EIT is completely different [02:19] hads: the big problem was I was taking a stab in the dark at how Freeview NZ handled DST [02:19] the EIT stuff seems pretty poor quality on some channels - e.g. just giving the same description to every episode of a series [02:19] ojwb: Yeah, all much of a much, there may be variations in titles/HD/descriptions etc. [02:20] Oh that will be the same, it's all the same input data [02:20] hads: I'm going to take a crack at it later today so I'll let you know [02:20] Have you seen the web services on nzepg [02:20] and FOUR helpfully adding "this is not rugby" to every program while the rwc is on... [02:21] ojwb: haha yeah, that was/is a bit annoying :) [02:21] Yeah I should have added a regex to get rid of that. [02:21] G: http://nzepg.org/title-replacements/+json [02:22] Various things like that to help with cleaning the data [02:22] hads: pretty sure the MHEG data doesn't have issues like that [02:22] but I'll see [02:23] I think it does, crappy input from the people entering the data. [02:23] I know (Stratos?) have various spellings of the same show [02:24] but when it comes to picking a category from the SQLite DB I use a LIKE query so it's not an issue [02:25] There's some crowd source category data too; http://nzepg.org/categories/+json [02:25] This stuff is all from xmltv-proc-nz which you can feed an XMLTV input file [02:26] * ojwb doesn't really find categories so useful [02:26] Right, work to be done. [02:26] hads: ohhh now that is interesting, I had written a little script to gather categories from tvdb [02:27] xmltv-proc-nz has tvdb and tmdb processing too [02:27] hads: hmmm okay thanks [02:27] I'll look into it [02:28] I wrote it so it can be used with any XMLTV source to augment the data at a later stage. [02:30] hads: I won't keep you from work, do you mind if I send you a quick e-mail at some point with a Q or two to pick your brain? [02:30] (To answer when you have time of course) [02:31] Sure, hads@nice.net.nz [02:31] thanks === ojwb is now known as Guest65620 === Guest65620 is now known as ojwb [18:23] morning [18:36] a belated speaking of VirtalBox .. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw [18:36] virtual box [18:38] morning [20:26] morning [20:50] morning [20:50] what a miserable morning [21:07] i guess it's a bit early on #ubuntu-release-party [21:07] RC hasn't been released yet [21:11] so if I ask if it's out yet, I'll get told off? [21:12] dunno .. let me know ;) [21:13] by this stage I'm unlikely to reinstall, so updates are pretty infrequent [21:14] I spent last night fighting unity-2d [21:14] trying to find out why unity won't run [21:15] I had 3d goodness with maverick [21:15] * ajmitch spent last night fighting php [21:16] i spent last night sleeping :P [21:17] lucky you :) [21:19] yay, LP timeout, lifeless will love that [21:35] yar [21:36] ajmitch: which page, out of curiosity? [21:36] bugs.launchpad.net/ seems to be suffering [21:37] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes [21:38] & also bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad when I was searching for a bug about the timeout [21:39] i wonder if it's "just" release-related load [21:39] or something else [21:40] probably release load, but I can't really check & find out [21:41] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/ [21:42] ibeardslee: all old there [22:36] It's release time already? [22:36] Huh, is too. I thought it was later in the month. [23:37] well the schedule says it is release time .. but haven't seen anything about it .. or a Release Candidate [23:52] ibeardslee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [23:52] it's not like there aren't images to test :) [23:53] I had downloaded a DVD image from http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily/ [23:53] but that failed to boot and I ended up giving up on importing it into my apt-cacher-ng cache [23:54] how far did it get in booting? [23:54] straight to the HD [23:54] after selecting the usb drive [23:54] best release yet!