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rwwtonyyarusso: list: ldunn, Jordan_U, KB1JWQ, ocean, probably others I missed00:07
rww(that's from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic ACLs)00:08
ldunnLjL?00:08
rwwldunn: already on there00:08
ldunnohk00:08
rwwldunn: he had it because partybot, I think00:08
rwwor because lolubuntubotsisacorechannel00:08
ldunnhehe00:08
rwwtonyyarusso: hypa7ia too00:09
rwwI should probably be PMing this00:09
Myrttiwell if you want indication of something, I have no clue what you are talking about00:10
rwwMyrtti: people who aren't on the #u-r-p ACL and should be00:10
Myrttirww: you just messed up00:11
rwwMyrtti: lies00:11
rwwalso, eir in #ubuntu-release-party would be glorious, but I'm not even going to try going there.00:12
rwwalthough with a separate control channel and no ubottu integration, it could work just fine00:18
rww(ps, for the love of goddess please keep ubottu out of #u-r-p this release, I just remembered that BT ended up full of crap last time and that's why I disliked it being there)00:19
ubottuqin called the ops in #ubuntu ()02:12
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Jordan_UIs anyone else watching #ubuntu? I've had to deal with a lot of (minor) issues recently but I'd like to leave (without leaving the channel unmonitored).05:04
Jordan_UMore trouble, as if on cue.05:06
Jordan_U:(05:10
elkykinda but not really, sorry, i'm at work05:15
rwwI'm paying a vague amount of attention. Kinda.05:23
ubottuIn ubottu, gr33n7007h said: why is your name ubottu06:06
Jordan_ULindaLoveLace is back in #ubuntu-offtopic:       23:18 < robinetd> LindaLoveLace: Weren't you told to change your nick?      23:18 < LindaLoveLace> robinetd: yes, but it doesn't break any rules so i changed it back.06:25
jussiI attempted to PM, no reply yet06:28
Coreywhat's the concern?06:33
rwwCorey: name matches a porn star, apparently06:34
elkythe rules it breaks: knowing it's upsetting to people and intentionally using it out of spite. Also known as baiting.07:16
robinetdHi. Flannel wants his judgement reviewed.07:17
robinetdThanks.07:17
elkyWe'll discuss this tomorrow when you're sober.07:18
robinetdI am sober.07:18
elkyNo you're not.07:18
robinetdMy last drink was three hours ago.07:18
elkyThat doesn't make you sober.07:18
robinetdI can walk a straight line.07:18
* robinetd turns on webcam.07:18
elkyNor does that.07:18
robinetdWhat makes me sober?07:19
elkyGoing to bed and sleeping the alcohol off.07:19
robinetdHe admitted the only reason he quieted me was to "avoid getting myself banned". Which I did nothing to warrant a ban.07:19
robinetdSo it's an unjust quiet and thus would like either an explanation or an unquiet. Or a submarine sammich.07:20
elkyIf he didn't, I would have. I'm not a fan of drunken declarations of love.07:21
robinetdThat happens when I've not drank for weeks.07:21
robinetdMore often than now.07:21
robinetdAsk rww. He knows.07:21
elkyThat already happened.07:21
robinetdPrecisely.07:22
elkySo you'll go to bed and discuss this with us tomorrow?07:22
robinetdSo what happens if I stay up all night?07:23
elkyIt'll be longer until we discuss it.07:23
robinetdBut that doesn't make sense.07:23
robinetdAlcohol wears off regardless of sleep.07:23
elkyYes, but I'm not speaking to you until you've been to bed. So the sooner you go to bed, the sooner this can be discussed.07:24
rwwrobinetd: If you'd like, I can go rules lawyer on you and point out that disobeying operators is a violation of channel policy. But I'd rather you just went to bed.07:24
robinetdrww: And where does it say that channel operators can demand that I go to sleep?07:24
rwwrobinetd: where does it say we can't?07:24
robinetd...07:25
robinetdWas that serious?07:25
rwwrobinetd: If you disagree with an operator action, please feel free to contact an IRCC member. Inconveniently, it appears the awake one just told you to go to bed.07:25
Tm_Tno point discussing things as long as heads are not clear (from toxics or lack of sleep or <fill in>)07:25
robinetdMy head is clear.07:26
robinetdI got quieted for no reason.07:26
* rww goes back to nethack07:26
elkyYou got quieted for being inappropriate.07:26
robinetdLove isn't appropriate?07:26
elkyThat is a valid reason.07:26
robinetdPerhaps hate is better?07:26
elky!o4o07:26
ubottuSome topics are controversial and often end in negativity. Take care on subjects like war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, potentially illegal activities and suicide. The topics are not banned; stating your position is ok, but trolling, baiting, hostility or repetition are not. If you are asked to stop, do so politely. Disputes to !appeals, please adhere to !freenode Policy and the !CodeOfConduct07:26
elkyHostility is verboten.07:27
robinetdLove has nothing to do with any of those things.07:27
Flannelrobinetd: Go to bed.  We can talk in the morning.07:27
elkyNo, it does have something to do with "eww get it off me" and me not liking drunken declarations of love.07:27
robinetdI wasn't on you.07:27
elkyFiguratively speaking.07:28
robinetdRight.07:28
elkyIf you really want to get into technicalities, I'd call it baiting.07:28
robinetdYes. Affectionism is baiting.07:28
elkyCreepy at minimum.07:29
robinetdCreepy is stalking, not announcing that I like your company.07:29
robinetdBut if you prefer that I don't like your company, you're doing a good job of it.07:29
Tm_Trobinetd: last time, please come back after a good sleep07:29
robinetd...07:30
Tm_Tgoodie07:30
Tm_Tpointless arguing how others should feel and the whole stopping to small details07:31
usr13Derpadong says that evva is a bot08:30
Myrttithe bot is already banned and reported further09:03
frewo64ok09:03
Myrttiinteresting11:58
robinetdIt's tomorrow.13:23
LjLu b&?13:25
robinetdI don't think so.13:26
LjLoh shame13:26
robinetdLjL: Waiting for someone to explain to me why I got quieted last night.13:26
robinetdflannel claimed it wasn't the "lurve" comment. Elky claims it was. Flannel wouldn't explain it last night.13:26
robinetdDo quiets go in the ban tracker?13:28
robinetdFirst he claimed it was "so I wouldn't get banned", but revoking my access to avoid getting my access revoked is not very sensible.13:29
LjLyes they do13:32
robinetdLjL: Could you please pull the reason and give it to me?13:33
LjLrobinetd: maybe if the bt didn't deny me access13:34
robinetdNice.13:34
h00k@login13:35
ubottuError: You are not identified13:35
h00kwhat13:35
LjLgives it to me as well13:35
robinetdBlame seveas.13:35
* Pici just got in just fine13:35
robinetdPici: gif reason plox13:35
Picirobinetd: "Temporary quiet so he'll go to bed and sleep it off before he does something he'll regret later."13:37
robinetdHe claimed it was also because I was being inappropriate.13:38
robinetdAnd like I said, revoking access to avoid access revocation is incredibly stupid.13:38
LjLis it stupid if it's a short quiet as opposed to a long ban13:38
robinetdI didn't do anything against the rules.13:38
LjLyou never do anything against the rules, you're just consistently annoying ;(13:39
robinetd...13:39
LjLi say it with the best possible intentions. you should try to irritate people less :P13:39
robinetdYes. I'll avoid telling people I like them. Someone might take it seriously.13:40
PiciI don't know if you were really drunk, or just faking, but it was disrupting the channel and people were getting annoyed :/13:40
h00kI missed all the schenanagins.13:40
robinetdPici: Nobody asked me to stop.13:40
robinetdh00k: There were no shenanigans. I mentioned I was drunk, said I lurve elky, got +q.13:40
robinetdBecause "lurve" is totally serious business.13:41
robinetdAnd stalker creepy.13:41
LjLmeh i dunno about that13:41
LjLi'm speaking in general13:41
robinetdI'm speaking in relation to last night.13:41
LjLwell in relation to last night i'll say nothing13:41
robinetdWhy?13:42
h00k@login13:42
ubottuError: You are not identified13:42
PiciI see 5 mentions of robinetd go to bed in the log from the bam.13:42
h00kcome on, ubottu.13:42
Piciban13:42
LjLrobinetd: because i have mixed feelings13:42
Picih00k: just try a btlogin13:42
h00k@btlogin13:42
h00kworked.13:42
h00khuh.13:42
Picimagic13:42
robinetdPici: I think !stop is meant for telling me to stop. "go to bed" can be construed as a joke.13:42
LjLh00k: works for me too, but then it says it's unavailable to anonymous users13:42
robinetdApparently there are no jokes there though.13:42
robinetdSpecifically, can you tell me what I did that was disruptive?13:43
h00kLjL: I was actually able to click the magic linky13:45
h00kI don't have a place, as I wasn't there last night.13:48
* robinetd taps microphone13:52
LjLrobinetd: highlighting random people who aren't speaking can be seen as disruptive13:54
robinetdLjL: Who did I highlight random people?13:54
LjLrobinetd: i think elky13:54
robinetdI'm going through the logs. We'll see.13:55
robinetdwhat. I swear she was active.13:58
robinetdI will be back when I figure out what happened.13:58
NeutrinooThis channel seems to be very serious.14:40
* mneptok blinks14:50
h00k...15:17
ubottupangolin called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Stoken was warned yesterday about this sort of language)17:36
usr13looks like something weird is happening  on the channel.18:26
rwwusr13: "the channel" meaning which?18:26
h00kusr13: what channel?18:26
rwwand given that I see nothing weird, something more descriptive than "something weird" would be nice :P18:27
oCean?18:28
charlie-tcaneat18:28
usr13Ok, maybe it's my PC.18:28
pangolinusr13: what is this something weird you see?18:28
usr13The iPod software may have been causing irssi to look weird.18:28
pangolinheh18:28
usr13fixme:something or other kept showing up on #ubuntu18:29
usr13It's gone now... false alarm.  Sorry18:29
pangolinno problem18:29
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from xpress)20:40
BarkingFishmorning guys, could we have a link added to ubottu please?22:45
BarkingFishthe release party channel have posted the obscurest timezone link in history to when 11.10 will be released by, and they're giving a location most people won't know without google earth or a geography degree!22:46
LjLwhat a shame22:47
popeyisnt that kinda the point22:47
BarkingFishpopey, no22:47
Myrttithere is no stone set release time22:47
popeyto make people go away and think before just blurting out IS IT OUT IS IT OUT22:47
BarkingFishThe point is not to have people turning up in #ubuntu asking us where the flaming place is :)22:47
pangolin!11.1022:47
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 | /join #ubuntu-release-party and wait for the announcement.22:47
BarkingFishHow the hell are we supposed to know?22:48
marienzbut there's the whole thisisthecountdown thing that has a, well, countdown :P22:48
pangolinBarkingFish: #ubuntu turns into a mad house every release anyway.22:48
Myrttiby the email the release manager sends22:48
BarkingFishI just wanted the link to the wikipedia page for the place adding to ubottu, assuming not everyone is in a silly mood :)22:48
pangolinsend them to -release-party :)22:48
popey-r-p is a bit of fun (stressful fun for some of us) but fun before the release22:49
popeythe topic, the bot and the ops all have some fun22:49
popeyi wouldn't take it too seriously22:49
pangolin+122:49
BarkingFishright, well it's obviously stressful for others too :)  I'll just stay the heck out then.22:49
BarkingFish-122:49
LjLaw22:49
LjLi was going to send him some sense of humor22:50
LjLbut he didn't give me time to ask for his address ;(22:50
gry#ubuntu-release-party <JamesMc> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/23:25
rwwand?23:33
Myrttitraditionally, I guess, it has been forbidden to post links23:42
elkyit's preferable to discourage it since it slows down the eventual release23:44
elkyif the canonical mirrors fall over, it's kinda hard to push the stuff out23:45

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