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compubombi have natty server installed on an aws instance, i noticed that mod_fastcgi is no longer there, anyone have any idea how to get it back?00:34
twbcompubomb: might be called fcgi?00:35
compubombtwb: they are not the same..00:35
twbOh, OK00:35
smwcompubomb, install libapache2-mod-fastcgi00:35
compubombmy problem is i only know how to setup php-fpm with apache using mod_fastcgi not fcgi00:35
twbWell, there's no mod_fastcgi in Debian at this time, at any rate.00:35
smwThere is always libapache2-mod-fcgid :-\00:36
twbsmw: yeah, that one00:36
twbI think when I was forced to deploy PHP, on a lucid box, that was the only cgi-based interface that was available00:36
compubombwy did they remove it?00:36
twbcompubomb: I would guess because it was unmaintained; the changelogs probably say00:37
compubombhow do you configure php-fpm using fcgid00:37
twbI don't know, ask #php00:37
twbIMO if you are using PHP, you have lost.00:38
compubombyou are entitled to your opinion.00:38
twbI don't imagine it's any harder to point mod-fcgid at php5-fpm than it is to point mod-fastcgi at php5-fpm...00:40
jetoleHey guys. I added a new disk to one of our mail servers today for storing users mail and I am about to format it however I am looking to add some inode configuration to allow many many many mail files. Can anyone help me with how I should configure the filesystem for this?01:35
twbI wouldn't bother01:36
jetolehow come?01:36
twbHowever mke2fs in /etc/mke2fs.conf has something like -T small or -T news01:37
twbjetole: because it's never been an issue for me01:37
jetoletwb: do you mind if I ask how much space one of your mail servers use for mail storage and what file system you use?01:38
twbFor example, look at this filesystem configured normally, storing only maildirs:http://paste.debian.net/135873/01:38
jetoleone sec, want to take another look at /etc/mke2fs.conf01:39
jetoleIt looks like if I use -T news I will have one inode for each per block01:39
twbGoddamn kernel packages01:40
jetoleat least on my system it shows the default blocksize as 4096 and news has inode_ratio set to 409601:40
twbRecommends: grub-pc | grub | lilo (>= 19.1)01:40
jetoletwb: did I understand that right01:40
twb^^ gee thanks, I really need a kernel upgrade to try blowing away my working bootloader with a broken one01:40
uvirtbottwb: Error: "^" is not a valid command.01:40
jetolelilo. heh, that takes me back through nostalgia01:41
* twb looks at pinning again to prevent same01:41
jetolehmmmm01:42
jetoleI didn't realize I could view inodes used with df01:42
jetolewhich turns out not to be the problem I thought it was01:42
twbNow you do01:42
jetolemy /home/vmail partition is using 43G out of 200G and has ocfs2 file system (though I was going to implement ext3 or 4 on the new disk) and I started receiving out of disk space errors today01:44
jetoletwb: any idea what may have caused that?01:44
jetoleoh and I am using 11M out of 50M inodes01:44
twbI know nothing of OCFS01:44
twbBut my first guess would be per-user or -group quotas01:44
twbTry repquota -a01:44
jetoletwb: fair enough but do you know of any common reasons that may happen on other FS's?01:45
* jetole looks01:45
twbOtherwise df -h and df -hi, see if anything is full01:45
jetoleI don't have a requota command01:45
twb*repquota01:45
jetolerep<tab><tab>: replace report-hw01:45
jetoleboth disk space and inode usage, both are 22%01:46
twbObviously you'll need to use repquota on the host that has the filesystem mounted, not e.g. an NFS client, and probably needs to run as root.  But if it's not installed and there's no mention of quota in /proc/mounts, then I guess you don't have quotas set up01:46
twbIf OCFS is anything like btrfs, it could also simply have gotten its knickers twisted about something else, filesystem-specific01:46
jetoleyeah I don't hve quota installed01:46
jetoleI did a apt-file search then used dpkg --get-selections to check01:46
twbThat's great, whatever01:47
jetoletwb: I was explaining how I found out what package it is and then how I... ah nevermind. you're right @ whatever01:47
jetoletwb: it may have gotten it's knickers twisted about god knows what but worth checking the generic causes first since people who know ocfs2 may be harder to track down01:48
jetoletwb: btw, ocfs2 is a clustered FS from oracle01:48
jetolea free one that's in the packages but that's what it does and who makes it01:49
twbShrug01:49
jetolemeh, in case you had cared01:49
twbFFS, does pinning even work AT ALL in ubuntu01:50
jetoletwb: what are you talking about at pinning01:52
twbhttp://paste.debian.net/135875/ <-- fucked01:52
jetolehey watch your language01:53
jetoleI personally don't give a fuck but everyone always says that01:53
jetoleand yeah, don't know about pinning. read something about it a year or more ago but I haven't really needed to use it01:53
twbjetole: I don't expect *you* to, but I hoped someone else was awake.01:54
jetoletwb: don't supposed you can dpkg -i thispkg.deb for the version you need then echo thispkg hold | dpkg --set-selections01:54
jetolewould that work?01:54
twbjetole: as I said, I need grub to NEVER EVER EVER be installed, and the kernel packages are doing their best to break that.01:55
jetoleoh01:55
twbPinning it to -1 should be the trivial solution.01:55
jetoleagain, can't you place a hold on the package?01:55
twbYou can't hold non-installed packages01:55
jetoleyep. guess you're right01:57
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jetolehowever you can hold uninstalled packages if that helps01:58
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twbDoesn't help02:01
twbAs at lucid, anyway02:01
twbhttp://paste.debian.net/135876/02:02
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jetoletwb: it works well. it's aptitude that doesn't: http://pastebin.com/E65sNwHA02:09
* jetole goes for a smoke, bbiab02:09
jetoletwb: did you notice that aptitude didn't actually place a hold on the package?02:18
twbI didn't02:18
jetole22:09 < jetole> twb: it works well. it's aptitude that doesn't: http://pastebin.com/E65sNwHA02:18
twbI saw that, yes02:18
jetoleaptitude didn't place a hold on the package in that paste but dpkg --set-selections did02:19
jetoletwb: every file needs a inode and needs only one inode. right?02:22
twbEvery object in the filesystem requires one inode02:23
twbe.g. a directory has an inode02:23
twbHard links share one inode between all their copies, IIRC02:23
jetolealso, do you know a quick way I can see how many files exist on a file system? I tried `find /home/vmail -type f | wc -l` | wc -l but this is taking forever02:24
twbI can't think of a case where one object would need more than one inode02:24
twbdf -i02:24
jetoledamn. 1107274602:25
jetoleI've decided to go with the new disk and ext4 and using -T news it only created 250k inodes02:26
twbThat's an order of magnitude more than you are using02:27
jetoleI'm using 11 million according to df -hi02:27
twbOh sorry, misread02:28
jetoleI know of the top of my head one user has 25k files in his inbox plus he has a bunch of other maildir's / folders02:28
twbFiddle with -i or so, I guess02:28
jetoleyeah I'm looking into it02:29
twbIt does seem odd that you're hitting this, though02:29
jetoleit's a mail server for our entire corporation as well as other domains outside our company02:30
twbYes, but the number of inodes is proportional to the filesystem's overall size02:31
jetole43GB of mail02:31
jetoleboth the current disk and the new one are 200GB02:31
jetoleand if I understand everything right, 250k inodes means we can only store 250k files and directories. Is that right?02:32
twbYes02:32
twbHmm, that's odd02:34
jetoleI'm checking my workstation and my home machine and I see different specs on inode counts so going to play with mkfs and the options and see what I can come up with02:34
twbhttp://paste.debian.net/135878/02:35
jetoleI don't suppose the fact that the mail server is Ubuntu server 9.04 would have anything to do with it?02:35
twbDoubt it02:35
jetoleI'll figure it out02:36
jetoledid you have any luck using echo grub-pc hold | dpkg --set-selections then running aptitude?02:37
jetolehmmm, changing from ext4 to ext3 I can see mkfs is using a much higher inode count in mkfs and I think ext4 was still pretty new @ 9.0402:38
twbI didn't do that because I want pinning to work02:38
twbI didn't think ext4 was available as at 9.0402:39
jetoleoh. so even if a hold works you still want to see it work with pinning?02:39
jetoleyeah I don't think it was on a fresh install and may have been through a upgrade. or maybe it was but it wasn't even an option to format / and other partitions with it during install02:40
jetolebut yeah, point being ext4 is new under 9.0402:40
jetoleoh wtf. df -hi /dev/vda1 still showed only 249k inodes after mkfs was done but I used tune2fs -l like you pasted and it shows the 52 million that mkfs said02:42
jetoleI'm betting it was the same shit for ext4 too and df was the app shitting bricks. not the FS02:42
twbI dunno man, all I really know is I've never actually run out of inodes in normal usage02:43
jetoleyeah I don't think I have either but it was saying that only 249k existed and I know I am already using more then that02:44
rhb5dQuestion: how do I shut down Ubuntu server from the login prompt?02:53
rhb5dI forgot my username and password, and I'm running it on VMWare, and I just want to turn it off but can't seem to figure out how02:54
rhb5dI can restart it through VMWare's settings, but can't shut it down properly02:55
patdk-laprhb5d, push the power button :)03:00
rhb5dIs there a power button in VMware?03:01
twbProbably03:03
twbpatdk-lap: unfortunately acpid isn't installd by default so that won't work >:-/03:03
twbrhb5d: unless you've installed acpid, your best bet will be to hit Ctrl+Alt+Del, which will trigger a clean *reboot*; then do a hard power off once you get to the bios or grub stage, where it is safe to do so.03:04
twbrhb5d: if acpid was installed, you could simply tell VMware to hit the (virtual) power button, which would trigger a clean shutdown03:04
twbApparently ubuntu servers don't install acpid by default because "you could accidentally bump the power button when waddling through the machine room"03:05
patdk-laptwb, odd, works on mine :)03:06
patdk-lapbut then acpid probably got installed for the monitoring software (cpu/temp/fan/....)03:06
twbpatdk-lap: right03:07
patdk-lapworks for me :) don't care about you :)03:07
patdk-lapbut then he is using vmware, so no powerbutton to hit03:07
rhb5dctrl + alt + del doesn't do anything.. i can restart it through VMware, but can't get it into grub03:08
rhb5dit just loops back to the login prompt03:08
patdk-lapyou have to hold right shift for grub2 to load up03:08
rhb5dit has to be the right shift key?03:09
patdk-lapyes03:09
rhb5dmaybe that's why it hasnt worked :)03:09
patdk-lapexcept for grub1 it's left control key, I think03:09
twbrhb5d: unfortunately in their infinite wisdom, the ubuntu developers made it nearly impossible to get into grub on fast machiens03:09
patdk-lapya, my normal thing is to set grub to 2second timeout, and enable the menu03:10
twbrhb5d: unlike extelinux, where you can leave the scroll lock or num lock key down to get into it, with grub you have to hit shift or alt EXACTLY when grub expects it03:10
rhb5dyes! made it into grub!03:10
rhb5dyou have no idea how happy that alone makes me :)03:10
twbrhb5d: OK, now pick single and break in03:10
patdk-laptwb, heh, openindiana does a default 30second grub timeout and menu on every boot03:10
patdk-lapthat annoys me the other way :)03:10
twbOh, if you have a root password you'll need to init=/bin/sh03:10
qman__grub1 it's escape03:17
qman__and it gives you a 3 second prompt to do so03:17
rhb5dthank you for your help!03:20
scalability-junkwhere could be the bottleneck, when I can get a maximum of 1MB/s transferrate through one connection?03:49
uvirtbotNew bug: #872553 in orchestra "upon creating a node via juju & orchestra, etckeeper hangs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87255305:01
SmokeyDhey everyone, I am having trouble with an ubuntu server I have running in as virtualbox guest. I cloned this ubuntu server from another virtual machine that is running for a long time already without problems.08:19
SmokeyDBut with this vm, I there seems to be a cronjob or something that makes the machine crash somehow.08:20
SmokeyDthe machine runs fine during the day, but if I try to login the next morning through ssh, I immediately get asked for my password, but after entering it, nothing seems to happen, untill I hit ctrl-c08:21
SmokeyDthen the server load and other login info is displayed and I get a bash prompt on the machine08:21
SmokeyDbut then it doesn't react anymore to keystrokes or anything else.08:21
SmokeyDIf I check the host OS. the virtualbox process doesn't have any cpu load or very high memory usage. Other vm's on the same host, and the host itself are also working normally08:22
SmokeyDso I am suspecting that the ubuntu server guest os somehow becomes unresponsive due to some cronjob that starts at night.08:23
SmokeyDdoes anyone have any clues as to what could cause this behaviour08:23
SmokeyDthe same unresponsive behaviour exists when I log in directly to the machine (using vbox rdp to the host os), so it also isn't a problem with ssh08:25
memoryleakSmokeyD: Did you check syslog?08:25
SmokeyDmemoryleak, I did on the host, and I am about to reset the guest os so I can log in again and check syslog on the machine. Right now I can't do anything on it08:26
SmokeyDon the host I couldn't see anything out of the ordinary08:26
memoryleaktail to syslog and try to login08:26
SmokeyDmemoryleak, after the reset you mean? I am very certain that when I reset the guest os (tried that friday and tuesday) it will work as expected again, untill tomorrow. But I can check syslog on the guest os to see if some cronjob got stuck or something08:27
SmokeyDbut I do need to reset the guest os before I can do anything on it again08:28
SmokeyDmemoryleak, I just reset the guest os, and am checking syslog, but there are no messages between 05:29:02 this morning and 10:29:11 (which is right now when I reset the machine)08:32
memoryleakWell what about sshd log?08:32
SmokeyDwhile normally there is a dhcp request every five minutes in the syslog, there is not syslog message in the 6 hours this morning08:32
memoryleakSmokeyD: /var/log/auth.log ?08:33
SmokeyDmemoryleak, there is a CRON login message in auth.log at 05:17 (30 minutes before the last dhcp request log in syslog), and then no more messages untill 10:2908:34
SmokeyDso something is causing the machine to freeze at around 05:49 this morning (almost 6 hours ago)08:35
SmokeyDcorrection: 5 hours ago08:35
memoryleakWhit what you virtualize ?08:35
SmokeyDvirtualbox08:35
SmokeyDbut there are other machines on the same host in virtualbox (including the one the problem os was cloned from) that run without any trouble08:36
SmokeyDand I checked syslog on the host os  (also ubuntu server) and there is nothing out of the ordinary there.08:36
SmokeyDthe strange thing is that cron.daily on the guest os is not started untill 6:25 while the freeze seems to occur at 05:49, so it doesn't seem to be triggered by the daily cronjobs either08:39
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jamespageDaviey: around?09:14
Davieyjamespage: hola09:31
jamespageDaviey, morning09:31
jamespageI'm just sweeping up any outstanding ISO tests09:31
jamespagehaving an issue with i386 RAID test09:32
jamespageinstall fine, boot fine, boot degraded from the first disk09:32
jamespagewon't boot from the second disk - it looks like grub bombs out because it just resets itself09:33
jamespageand goes back to the grub menu - any ideas?09:33
jamespagei can't even run any commands from the grub command line - it just dies and resets09:33
jamespageI've complete torn down and re-setup my test VM - but its still not happy09:34
koolhead17hi all09:49
lynxmanjamespage: Daviey: morning o/09:49
lynxmankoolhead17: morning to you too :)09:49
jamespagemoring all09:49
koolhead17hey lynxman :P09:49
koolhead17morning jamespage Daviey too :P09:49
koolhead17news of the day http://www.tehelka.com/story_main50.asp?filename=Ws101011MICROSOFT.asp :D09:50
_rubeninteresting .. postfix 2.8.5 in lucid-backports .. guess i should dust off my apt-pinning skills :p09:50
jamespageDaviey: hmm I get the same on amd64 - wonder it its something about my vm09:56
Davieyjamespage: eeek10:01
jamespageDaviey: hmm10:01
jamespageI get the same issue with the amd64 install10:02
jamespageI've tried switching between virtio and default disk types10:02
jamespageand ensuring that the disk is always presented as the first ie. vda or hda10:02
jamespagebut no success10:02
cjwatsonjamespage: so if I did an install with kvm and two disks, would I probably be able to reproduce this?10:02
cjwatsonpull one then the other10:03
jamespagecjwatson, well unless its something specific to where I'm running the test - yes10:03
jamespagethats exactly the configuration I use10:03
cjwatsonjamespage: could you summarise your partitioning layout for me?10:03
jamespageI'm using 2 x 2GB qcow2 images to back virtio disks10:04
jamespageeach disk is partitioned with three primary volumes - 1.5GB, 512M and the remainder - all set as type raid10:04
jamespageThe 1.5GB's are RAID-1 into / as ext410:04
jamespagethe 512M as swap10:05
cjwatsonall raid-1?10:05
jamespageand the remainder as /home as ext410:05
jamespageyep10:05
cjwatsonok, let me have a go10:05
jamespageI can pull the second disk OK10:05
jamespageand restore it and resync10:05
jamespageI just can't pull the first and get it to boot10:05
jamespageamd64 or i38610:05
jamespagecjwatson, ta10:06
cjwatsonjamespage: 1.5GB, 512M, and the remainder - but you're using 2GB disks, isn't the remainder nothing?10:08
cjwatsonor is there a bit of rounding error at the end?10:08
jamespagecjwatson, hmm - now that is odd10:11
jamespageqemu-img info reports the disk a 2.0GB10:11
jamespagefdisk from within the kvm reports 2147 MB10:12
cjwatsonok, so different GB10:12
cjwatsoni.e. GB vs. GiB10:13
jamespageah10:13
jamespageso rounding error at the end I guess10:13
jamespageanyway - I end up with a 124MB /home10:14
tjaaltonis there a "what next" document to read after installing ubuntu-orchestra-server? the packages only include the changelog & copyright in /usr/share/doc10:15
* jamespage coffee - biab10:16
lynxmantjaalton: not yet, we're on it though :)10:18
tjaaltonlynxman: ok, any pointers in the meantime? I noticed that the orchestra-provisioning "site" is not enabled by default10:18
lynxmantjaalton: hmm you mean the web ui?10:19
tjaaltonlynxman: right, though any ui would do :)10:19
lynxmantjaalton: don't think we have one active yet :( it's all command line10:20
tjaaltonok that's fine10:20
lynxmantjaalton: let me see if I can find my notes for you, one sec10:21
tjaaltonlynxman: thanks10:21
bau-I all, I have register a new domain with godaddy, now I can tell it to go to my server when I go to that site?10:24
lynxmanbau-: hmm wrong channel? :)10:24
lynxmantjaalton: Once you have orchestra installed and the isos imported (it does that automatically on the background the first time)10:24
lynxmantjaalton: it's time to tell cobbler to get to configure that machine by adding it to a profile10:25
lynxmantjaalton: your orchestra server needs to be the next-server for PXE boot10:25
lynxmantjaalton: then collect MAC address, give it a node name10:26
lynxmantjaalton: and run this on your orchestra server10:26
lynxmantjaalton: sudo cobbler system add --name="node01.internal.domain" --mac-address="AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF" --ip-address="AA.BB.CC.DD" --dns-name="node01.internal.domain" --hostname="node01.internal.domain --profile="profilename"10:26
tjaaltonlynxman: thanks, I'll try that.. after lunch :)10:27
lynxmantjaalton: good luck :)10:28
koolhead17https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/85641710:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 856417 in linux "Dead loop on virtual device br100, fix urgently." [Undecided,Confirmed]10:47
koolhead17i am still finding the same behavior of it on oneiric10:48
jamespagekoolhead17, what else do you have running on that server? nova per chance?10:52
jamespageand if so which networking mode are you using?10:56
koolhead17jamespage: currently to do all my testing am running natty/daiblo setup.10:56
jamespagekoolhead17, surely oneiric based on the kernel version?10:57
koolhead17jamespage: yes the system has nova running and  we are running managed vlan mode10:57
koolhead17jamespage: $ cat /var/log/installer/media-info Ubuntu-Server 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" - Beta amd64 (20111009)10:57
koolhead1709/10/201110:58
koolhead17i have dismentaled the machine to try newest built10:58
jamespagekoolhead17: right - unfortunately I don't have a dual nice setup to reproduce on10:58
jamespage/nice/nic/10:58
jamespagebut on my all-in-one I don't create the br100 interface - I create a br0 interface onto eth0 and use that for the private networking10:59
koolhead17jamespage: the same setup works well for the natty/daiblo setup. Am trying the newest image which just downloaded to see if this issue is resolved10:59
* jamespage scratches his head10:59
jamespagekoolhead17, I guess it may be a difference in the kernel handling of duplicate ops on br10011:00
koolhead17jamespage  what would you suggest to not come out of this then. :D11:01
koolhead17i mean am creating br100 on eth0 or eth1 should not make a difference11:02
koolhead17:P11:02
jamespagekoolhead17, I don't think you need to create br100 at-all11:03
jamespageI only do that in my all-in-one to work around not having two interfaces11:03
koolhead17jamespage: so how will i assign IP to my internal network ?11:04
koolhead17and communicate with internal machines :(11:04
koolhead17jamespage: brb. trying out newest release11:05
jamespagekoolhead17, firing in the dark a bit here - http://tinyurl.com/3c6fay811:05
jamespagetry configuring eth1 normally and then specifying --vlan_interface=eth111:05
jamespageI think nova will then create the br100 interface using eth111:05
jamespage*I think*11:05
jamespageactually I can test this11:06
koolhead17jamespage: cool11:06
trapmaxhow do i do grub-install on a kvm guest?11:09
RoyKdamn - anyone here ever succeded in setting up AD-based authentication for Linux clients?11:09
jMCgRoyK: pam-ldap? Or just stuff like http auth? Kerberos integration? Or just.. blah blah blah.. There's a whole slew here. You can go from just using ldap to.. well.. complete integration.11:11
RoyKpam-ldap should do. I just wonder if I have to lock the config to a fixed context...11:12
* RoyK thinks LDAP is largely confusing11:12
RoyKhrmf - failed to bind to LDAP server ldap://192.168.0.3/: Invalid credentials - but the same creds work with ldapsearch11:18
RoyKmeaning kerberos must be setup?11:19
jamey-ukSuddenly my server has stopped booting, it just sits with a flashing cursor waiting to boot.11:48
jamey-ukSuddenly my server has stopped booting, it just sits with a flashing cursor waiting to boot. It's an EFI machine, and the disk seems to be GPT, but I don't know what's wrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706649/ Can anyone help?11:49
jamespagekoolhead17: I think that works11:51
koolhead17jamespage: is it working for you the way you mentioned?11:51
jamespageOK - so lemme run this through11:52
jamespageeth0 - public interface11:52
koolhead17jamespage: yes11:52
jamespageeth1- private interface11:52
jamespage --vlan_interface=eth1 in /etc/nova/nova.conf11:52
tjaaltonRoyK: winbind + pam_krb5 should do11:52
koolhead17k11:52
koolhead17jamespage: and you assigned IP to eth111:53
jamespagekoolhead17, yes - well dhcp did - I know that is not that normal in server deployments11:53
jamespageI'm running this in a kvm so bear with me11:54
jamespagethank goodness for ssd11:54
koolhead17jamespage: what i did is assigned a static ip to eth111:54
koolhead17so i have ip for eth1 and eyh111:54
koolhead17*eth111:54
jamespageI think thats spot-on11:54
jamespageI generated a set of networks -  sudo nova-manage network create private 10.0.0.0/8 3 1611:55
jamespageand then uploaded a image and ran one11:55
jamespagenova-network created:11:55
jamespagebr100, vlan100@eth1 and veth0 with is on br10011:56
jamespageI can access the instance using its private address from the nova server11:56
jamespageI don't get any of those loop messages but I do see the br100 being setup11:57
jamespagekoolhead17: make sense so far?11:58
jamey-ukDoes anyone know how to get GRUB working with a GPT partition on a UEFI machine?11:59
Jeeves_qemu-img: Error while formatting '/dev/data_disk/fliep'12:00
Jeeves_That's when I try to qemu-img convert to an lvm-device12:01
Jeeves_Any known fixes for that?12:01
koolhead17jamespage: indeed :)12:01
jamespagekoolhead17, it may be you get those loop messages because nova-compute is trying todo something to the bridge you already have setup12:01
koolhead17k12:02
koolhead17let me try as you mentioned12:02
jamespagekoolhead17, I've not tried running nova + lxc in a kvm before - actually worked quite well!12:03
jamespagekoolhead17, fwiw even if this does resolve your issue - I think that there might still be a bug in oneiric which you did not hit in natty12:04
koolhead17jamespage: so sumthing has changed in oneiric because we are still using the same old config creating br100 manually and it all works well12:04
RoyK11.10 countdown...12:11
jamespagekoolhead17, agreed - but I don't think that creating the br100 interface is required any more12:14
koolhead17jamespage: am still in same proble.12:17
koolhead17problem12:17
koolhead17is your eth1 and sudo nova-manage network create private 10.0.0.0/8 3 16  in same ip range12:18
tjaaltonlynxman: actually, i got the cobber web-ui login screen up, but the password doesn't seem to work12:18
jamespagekoolhead17, no - they don't need to be12:18
jamespagekoolhead17, the address on eth1 will be on the native vlan12:19
jamespagewhereas the private network ranges will sit on different vlans12:19
jamespagekoolhead17: can you post /var/log/nova-*.log and your syslog and kern.log on the bug report12:21
jamespagewe might be able to identify what is causing the issue from that12:21
koolhead17http://paste.ubuntu.com/706669/12:25
koolhead17jamespage: kernel log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/706670/12:28
jamespagekoolhead17, can we get more of nova-network.log12:29
jamespagekoolhead17, hmm - what parameters did you use with nova-manage network create?12:31
jamespagein my setup I see vconfig operating on eth1 not br10012:32
koolhead17yes12:33
jamespagecjwatson: any progress on reproducing my raid issue?12:33
koolhead17nova-manage network create --bridge_interface=br100 --fixed_range_v4=192.168.3.0/29 --label=proj nova-manage floating create --ip_range=10.10.10.224/2712:37
koolhead17this is what we used diablo plus natty12:38
tjaaltonlynxman: I just get 'httpd does not appear to be running and proxying cobbler' when trying to add a system12:39
tjaaltonsame thing with 'cobbler check'12:39
koolhead17tjaalton: is apache running?12:40
tjaaltonkoolhead17: yep12:41
zulmorning12:41
lynxmanzul: morning o/12:43
koolhead17morning zul12:43
koolhead17tjaalton: try restarting the orchestra server once12:43
koolhead17jamespage: should i dump whole network log along with the bug report?12:43
tjaaltonkoolhead17: what's it called? can't find anything with that name12:45
RoyKhi all. giving btrfs a try again, now on the soon-to-be-released Ubuntu 11.10 - now, is there a way to do something similar on that as what I do on solaris/openindiana with 'beadm create'? that will create a clone of the root and allow me to boot into that, potentially after an upgrade (of that)12:46
jamespagekoolhead17, this is creating the issue - --bridge_interface=br10012:47
jamespagebut I don't understand why it worked OK with diablo on natty12:48
* jamespage scratches his head12:48
koolhead17jamespage: i am cleaning everything and this time not give the br100 flag.12:49
koolhead17jamespage: same is my situation/scarchy :)12:49
jamespagekoolhead17, worth a try12:49
koolhead17i have working natty/diablo running with same commands :)12:50
jamespagekoolhead17, I suggest you pastebin the log for the time being12:51
koolhead17tjaalton: pas-ef|grep orchestra gives notthing :(12:52
koolhead17jamespage: i dont think the network log has anything more relevant to this issues besides http://paste.ubuntu.com/706669/12:52
koolhead17* ps -ef | grep orchestra12:53
jamespagekoolhead17, OK - so try with the --vlan-interace set in /etc/nova/nova.conf and don't specify the bridge_interface when creating the network with nova-manage12:53
tjaaltonkoolhead17: nope12:53
koolhead17jamespage: sure cleaning up all the the installs and try as yuo mentioned. :)12:54
jamespagekoolhead17, ok - lemme know how it goes.12:55
koolhead17sure12:55
koolhead17lynxman: hellos12:55
* koolhead17 pokes RoAkSoAx: 12:56
lynxmankoolhead17: hey hey12:56
koolhead17jamespage: the only problem/confusion i have if its working on natty/diablo what have we changed in in oneiric :P12:56
koolhead17lynxman: what is default orchestra process, tjaalton needs some help :)12:57
lynxmankoolhead17: cobbler12:57
tjaaltonright, restarting cobbler didn't help12:57
koolhead17lynxman: am having nightmares in understanding RBAC of nova/12:59
koolhead17i created like 15 users and added like 5-6 projects12:59
koolhead17:P12:59
cjwatsonjamespage: I've reproduced it; I'm working on debugging it (amid other things)12:59
jamespagecjwatson, great - let me know if I can help in anyway13:01
cjwatsonwill do13:02
hggdhjamespage: good morning, to which Jenkins test we map the tracker "Ubuntu Server EC2 HVM (US-East) amd64"?13:18
jamespagehggdh: we don't13:19
hggdhah13:19
jamespagenormally utlemming or smoser run that one by hand13:19
koolhead17tjaalton: check if there is allready a question with same else post  one with all details, am sure someone will look into it and answer back. :)13:22
tjaaltonkoolhead17: i suspect the network settings are somehow screwed, will fix them first13:29
hggdhjamespage: k, I will wait for utlemming or smoser13:31
koolhead17jamespage: success finally :P13:48
koolhead17but need to get 100% sure first :)13:49
jamespagekoolhead17, \o/13:49
koolhead17jamespage: you made my day<rather 7.20 pm> for me13:51
koolhead17jamespage: so what should i do to the reported bug?13:51
jamespagekoolhead17, so it looks like the bridge was getting in a right twist with the config you where using13:52
* jamespage has another look at the bug13:56
koolhead17jamespage: yes. indeed13:57
koolhead17jamespage: shall i request for its clouser then?13:58
jamespagekoolhead17: still thinking13:58
koolhead17:(13:58
koolhead17i mean only thing i don`t understand why it was working with natty and not with oneiric13:58
jamespagekoolhead17: are you sure that the nova configuration was identical on natty?14:00
koolhead17jamespage: same configuration to be precise. :)14:01
koolhead17Daviey: ping14:04
Davieykoolhead17: hey14:04
jamespagekoolhead17: Its an odd edgecase; lets document what we have found out today and mark it as a priority low....14:05
jamespageI'll update the report now14:05
koolhead17jamespage: cool14:05
koolhead17i have all logs/details added to it. hardware make was allready provided to it14:06
koolhead17Daviey: keystone/diablo will have no role based access control14:07
koolhead17TeTeT: hellos :)14:11
Davieykoolhead17: oh?14:11
Davieyutlemming: Hey, around?14:12
utlemmingDaviey: sir, I am14:12
Davieyutlemming: Great!  Is the /current AMI's from your perspective final?14:12
Davieyanything concerning you?14:12
utlemmingI'm doing some final digging around, but 20111011 is the one that smoser and I tagged as the candidate14:13
utlemmingthe tests look good (other than EC2 being EC2)14:14
utlemmingDaviey: also, the desktop images are functional too14:15
Davieyutlemming: rocking!14:15
Davieyjamespage: you also smoked the ec2 images?14:16
utlemminghttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/14:16
jamespageDaviey: that link ^^14:16
jamespagebut looked good to me as well14:16
jamespagethe only tests not covered are hvm14:16
Davieygood o'14:17
Davieythanks!14:17
tjaaltonkoolhead17, lynxman: ok I got cobbler moving, had a wrong ip for the server :/14:24
lynxmantjaalton: cool!14:25
tjaaltonnow the old one is still at least in the profiles14:26
koolhead17tjaalton: awesome.14:26
koolhead17i wonder if we should comeup with new section in launchpad and assign section per project mentioning "common typos" :D14:27
tjaaltonhmm maybe I'll just reinstall the stack, to get a fresh start14:27
koolhead17that way we can read few allready created typos beffore filling bugs :)14:27
* koolhead17 just an idea :P14:27
tjaaltonthe problem here was that the machine used dhcp provided by the router, so when I switched to a static ip things were messed up14:28
KM0201does anyone know of a photo program, that has a PNP plugin, so i can browse a share? --- xbmc works for this, but I was hoping to use something designed just for pics14:32
tjaaltonha, purging cobbler doesn't remove /etc/apache2/conf.d/cobbler*.conf symlinks, so restarting apache2 fails14:33
koolhead17tjaalton: pass me the blog page once your done with your documented the typo :)14:34
w00hm, wasn't http://thisisthecountdown.com/ supposed to 'expire' today?14:37
tjaaltonkoolhead17: maybe i'll just file this one bug ;)14:37
* koolhead17 kicks tjaalton :D14:37
koolhead17tjaalton: file it as a questions and another add as answer as comment. it will be cool :)14:38
tjaaltonkoolhead17: which one?14:38
tjaaltonmessing with the ip?14:38
koolhead17tjaalton: yes14:39
smoserjamespage, yellow is failure ?14:39
jamespagesmoser: yellow indicates one or more tests failed14:40
uksysadminhello all. who am I best bothering about Orchestra and OpenStack deployments?14:40
jamespagesmoser: red is something really bad happened14:40
koolhead17uksysadmin: to all of us14:40
koolhead17:D14:40
uksysadmin:) koolhead1714:40
jamey-ukEvery time I try to install Ubuntu Server, it successfully installs but then my UEFI system will just stay with a blinking cursor waiting to boot. I've formatted the disk in MBR format but this still happens. How can I get my system bootable?14:41
koolhead17uksysadmin: shoot your question :)14:41
smoserjamespage, so https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/10/ARCH=amd64,REGION=ap-northeast-1,STORAGE=instance-store,TEST=multi-instance,label=ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/testReport/i-dc3438dd_test_remote/RemoteEC2Test/testRootSSH/? that test failed, where would the output fo the ssh be ?14:43
jamespagesmoser: its in the console output14:43
uksysadminWhere can I find information on using Orchestra to do OpenStack deployments? Recent events in Paris teased me with people talking about Juju and OpenStack installs... point me in the direction and you've got a willing volunteer for testing and development14:43
RoAkSoAxuksysadmin: howdy, we are in the process of finishing up the documentation14:47
RoAkSoAxuksysadmin: the orchestra part so far is documented here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Orchestra14:47
RoAkSoAxthough its still in process14:47
uksysadminExcellent RoAkSoAx - I appreciate things are developing at a fast pace and OpenStack is also a moving target - patience is a virtue I'm told - but where's the fun in that?14:48
RoAkSoAxehhe14:51
RoAkSoAxindeed14:51
smoserjamespage, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev/+junk/ec2-automated-tests is the tests for ec2 ?14:51
koolhead17RoAkSoAx: hey!!14:52
RoAkSoAxkoolhead17: o/14:54
uvirtbotNew bug: #872892 in cobbler (universe) "should remove /etc/apache2/conf.d/cobbler*.conf on postrm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87289214:56
jamey-ukI can't get Ubuntu Server installed on my UEFI-based system, it just won't boot after installing grub (supposedly succesfully) at the end of the installation. How can I get it booting? :(14:57
smoserhggdh, do you know ?14:59
marshallhey ubuntu-server15:01
marshallwhenever I try to run this script, it immediately just says "Killed"15:01
koolhead17"this script"15:02
marshallkoolhead17: it's asf_mapready, the GIS software15:03
marshallkoolhead17: I was able to run it before, but now even when I try to do `asf_mapready --help` it just says "Killed". I was wondering if it's a thing in linux or ubuntu that kills it before anything happens.15:04
kirklanduksysadmin: kim0|holiday has some blog posts on the matter15:07
uksysadminthanks kirkland15:08
uksysadminI've just googled his blog - I'll go poking around it. cheers.15:11
jamespagesmoser: sorry OTP15:18
jamespagesmoser: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-ec2-testing-dev/+junk/ec2-automated-tests15:18
Doonzey guys im having trouble connecting to my ssh server from outside of my network.15:20
Doonzmy firewall is showing that it is passing the connection through15:21
Doonzbut im not sure what to do with tcpdump data ive collected (dont know howto interpret it) any one willing to spend some time helping me on this15:21
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robbiewRoAkSoAx: Daviey: any idea what the current status of bug 850880 is?  If it's not fixed, we should retarget.15:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 850880 in cobbler "cobbler-ubuntu-import does not pull from -updates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85088015:24
tjaaltonhmm is it just me, or aren't the cobbler repo urls all broken? (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntudists//oneiric)15:26
* koolhead17 is happy!!! :)15:27
* RoAkSoAx looks15:29
robbiewRoAkSoAx: looking at the bug or tjaalton's issue...or both? :)15:30
Davieykirkland: around?15:30
kirklandDaviey: eeellloooooooo15:30
RoAkSoAxrobbiew: both15:30
RoAkSoAx:)15:31
Davieykirkland: have you seen bug 872553?15:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 872553 in orchestra "upon creating a node via juju & orchestra, etckeeper hangs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87255315:31
RoAkSoAxtjaalton: yeah that's something we just noticed too and which I'll look at15:31
RoAkSoAxDaviey: he's aware15:31
tjaaltonRoAkSoAx: ah, good :)15:31
DavieyRoAkSoAx / kirkland: Is there a plan?15:31
RoAkSoAxDaviey: im gonna nlook at it today, SpamapS seems to have found the cause15:32
DavieyRoAkSoAx: well right now, it's feeling safer to pull out the recommends of etckeeper and resolve it in P-Series properly15:33
robbiew+115:33
RoAkSoAxDaviey: indeed15:33
kirklandDaviey: it should be trivial to solve via sru, either a) (preferably) lowering priority of debconf question, or (b) preseeding the value in orchestra itself15:35
kirklandDaviey: i asked RoAkSoAx to look at it yesterday, i think he's on it15:35
Davieykirkland: Well right now juju+orchestra deployments are blocked.  Do you disagree that ripping out the recommends is safer at this stage?15:35
PatriotHello to everybody15:36
kirklandDaviey: seems a little on the heavy handed side, but I can see why you're asking for it15:36
kirklandDaviey: it was a late addition (at my urging), and I take responsibility for this breakage15:37
kirklandDaviey: gimme 10 minutes to take a look15:37
robbiewcan't we remove it, and then once fixed, SRU it back in?15:37
DavieyOh sure, i agreed with the rational to add it.15:37
RoAkSoAxkirkland: there's no debconf question for installtion though15:37
Davieyrobbiew: 0-day SRU IMO should either remove it, or fix it.  I don't think it's a good idea to have a later SRU reintroducing the recommends.15:38
kirklandDaviey: right -- I'm with you -- SRU'ing a recommends will almost certainly be nacked by the SRU team15:38
robbiewDaviey: fair enough15:38
kirklandinterestingly, etckeeper has debconf questions, but no debian/config15:39
kirklandthe only db_input I see in etckeeper's source is15:40
kirklandpostrm:                         db_input critical etckeeper/purge || true15:40
koolhead17kirkland: etckeeper has no debconf options :)15:40
RoAkSoAxkirkland: yeah that's what I was saying, it only has debconf questions for the postrm15:41
uksysadminkirkland, thanks for point me in the direction of kim0|holiday - gets me passed the first hurdle at least and seems the right place to keep an eye on for following developments towards OpenStack with Orchestra15:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #872926 in cobbler (universe) "Cobbler repo URL's are broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87292615:41
kirklanduksysadmin: kim0|holiday is awesome :-)15:42
uksysadminhe really should power off his computer though. save energy and all that ;-)15:43
kirklandaha!15:44
kirklandDaviey: okay, i'm on it15:44
kirklandDaviey: it's not the installation of etckeeper itself15:45
kirklandDaviey: its that juju installs a package that modifies /etc, and these changes need to be committed to etckeeper15:45
kirklandDaviey: we just need to configure etckeeper to do that automatically when etckeeper is installed by orchestra15:45
PatriotI am in desperate need of help, and if this is not the right chat can you please advise me which channel to go to15:47
Davieykirkland: can you provide some more detail?15:48
PatriotWill do15:48
PatriotOk this is the problem that i am pulling my hair out15:48
PatriotI have installed Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS15:48
PatriotI am setting up the server for domain logons15:49
PatriotEverything is going 100%, until i want to add a Windows 7 machine15:49
PatriotThe windows 7 machine logs on to the domain 100%15:49
PatriotUntill i restart then the windows 7 machine says can't find the domain15:50
PatriotI just re-installed the server again from scratch15:50
kirklandDaviey: hang on, let me get this fixed, and i'll explain it to you15:50
PatriotI also applied the windows 7 registry settings etc15:51
PatriotBut no luck at all15:51
Davieykirkland: ok, i have an upload in the queue backing out etckeeper.. if you can get a better fix today, i'm happy to run with yours.15:52
smoserjamespage, so i'm missing something.15:52
kirklandDaviey: i'm working as fast as i can15:52
smoserwhere is the stuff that runs those tests... ie launches an instance and collects console output.15:52
Davieykirkland: rocking15:53
boxybrownquick question about fdisk15:54
boxybrownafter creating a partition and writing it15:54
boxybrownis there anything special i need to do to format the drive?15:54
boxybrownbefore I can mount it?15:54
iclebyte-workyou need to put a file system on the partition15:55
jamespagesmoser: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-ec2-testing-dev/ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/ubuntu-server-ec2-testing15:55
jamespagesorry - misunderstood your question15:55
boxybrowniclebyte-work: okay yeah, looks like i need to run mkfs15:56
iclebyte-workyea.  mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdaX15:57
boxybrowniclebyte-work: ext3 or ext4, seems like the new ubuntus are using ext4...15:58
Davieyutlemming: around?16:00
Doonzany reason why ssh server works internally but not from any internet based ips16:00
patdk-wkfirewall :)16:01
patdk-wkisp blocking it with their firewall? :)16:01
Doonzno and no16:01
Doonzi think its something with pfsense16:02
Doonzpfsense people say its the server16:02
Doonzi dont freaking know16:02
patdk-wkpfsense is a firewall16:02
Doonzwich the rules are there and its is allowing that connection and routing it to the proper port16:02
patdk-wkif it's not a firewall, then there is only one thing it could be, you modified sshd_config to not listen to the external ip16:03
Doonzi have to nics in the server16:03
Doonzeth0 is 192.168.1.3216:03
Doonzeth1 is 192.168.1.3316:03
Doonzinthe sshd_conf listen ip is 192.168.1.3216:03
koolhead17hi16:04
Doonzpatdk-lap is that not correct?16:06
patdk-wkif you are connecting to ssh using that ip, yes16:06
utlemmingDaviey, Jamespage: HVM AMI's passed too. So I'm happy with the 20111011 images.16:06
Davieyutlemming: did you see my Questions in -release?16:07
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utlemmingDaviey: just did...switching channels16:07
Davieya16:09
Davieyta16:09
kirklandRoAkSoAx: SpamapS: do you guys have an easy/quick way to reproduce this outside of orchestra (preferably in an EC2 instance)?  I have a fix i'd like to test16:11
RoAkSoAxkirkland: i wasn't able to reproduce it outside orchestra16:16
RoAkSoAxkirkland: maybe pass cloud-init config16:16
panfisti'm new to systems administration so sorry if this is a basic quesiton. i was wondering why when some packages are built/installed from source, they put themselves in the right place in the FHS,16:17
panfistand others just stay right where you extract them16:17
RoyKdoes xen support some sort of failover? I mean, afaik uec does, but with a rather rigid setup with hard to do a simple/clean setup without a single point of failure. software like vmware or hyper-v run in mesh mode, which is better16:17
panfistis there a reason for that, other than the package maintainer didn't have a part of the installation script that knows about your distro so it just defaults to not installing in a place that makes sense?16:18
panfistand if a package doesn't put itself in the right place, how do i know what that place should be?16:18
patdk-wkroyk, xen doesn't support failover, but it has the ability for you to do it16:25
ClaesBasDoes anybody know where installer finds out that it has been a "md-raid" (I have removed partions, dd 'ed 512 zeros to /dev/sdX, created new empty dos partion table and even created and formated a new ext2 partion on 20G), I want to start from scratch but installer only put a iscsi-thing in my face (it's with an "11.10 111010 server cd")?16:25
patdk-wkit has a way to move running domu's16:26
ClaesBasAnd of course have I removed superblocks with --zero-superblock....16:26
patdk-wkClaesBas, wouldn't wiping the partition table be easier and faster?16:27
patdk-wkcause superblocks is a fs thing16:27
ClaesBaspatdk-wk: I think I've done everything except dd'ing zero to whole disks (4x750G)16:28
kirklandRoAkSoAx: do you have an orchestra setup right now where you can reproduce it?  would you be willing to give a fix a quick test?16:30
ClaesBasSomeone who coded this part of the "deb-installer" have been a bit to "clever"...16:30
patdk-wkclaesbas, no, normally it uses blkid to find and locate drive configs16:30
patdk-wkand normally just writing 0's to the first meg of the drive is enough to remove that :)16:30
ClaesBaspatdk-wk: I will try that, thanks...16:32
patdk-wkyou didn't use gpt did you?16:32
patdk-wkif you did, you probably have to wipe out the first and last 1mb of the drive16:32
patdk-wkas gpt is redundant :)16:32
koolhead17jamespage: i was disconnected.16:36
smoserutlemming, it would appear that you have not started the promote-daily, is that correct ?16:38
utlemmingsmoser: I ran the promote daily yesterday. It's staged up and ready to go16:38
RoyKpatdk-wk: moving domu's is nice, but do you know if there's a way to failover a domu to another dom0 in case of a dom0 failure?16:41
RoyKpatdk-wk: by failover, I meen to administratively move it to another dom0 and boot it16:42
RoyKnot true failover - afaik only vmware support that (and probably IBM zSeries, but that's another ballpark)16:42
patdk-wkoh, isn't that easy?16:43
patdk-wkjust issue xm create domu on the other machine16:43
RoyK(and for vmware to support that, it needs infiniband or at least 10Gbps ethernet...)16:43
RoyKpatdk-wk: automatically without risking collisions?16:43
patdk-wkheh? vmware supports that on anything,16:43
patdk-wkroyk, that depends on you HA setup, I assume you used proper fencing and stuff from linux-ha16:43
RoyKpatdk-wk: for a VM to be HA, vmware needs very high speed networking between the hosts to transfer the memory contents as it is changed16:44
patdk-wkroyk, if the dom0 is down, there is no memory to move16:44
RoyKpatdk-wk: vmware normally reboots a VM if the host it's on dies16:44
patdk-wkand I do move ram, gigs of it at a time, over gigabit with vmware16:45
patdk-wkbut I think the way vmware moves ram is different from xen16:45
RoyKdoes that work ok? I mean - isn't gigE far too slow for that?16:45
patdk-wkas vmware will do like a double rsync to move it, and xen is all at once, locked16:45
patdk-wkroyk, vm is only down for a few seconds for me, with 8gig+ ram vm's16:45
RoyKpatdk-wk: that's moving a VM, yes16:46
patdk-wkwith infiniband, it's down for a few seconds also16:46
RoAkSoAxkirkland: sure I have my own setup16:46
RoyKpatdk-wk: but if you have the VM running on host A and you pull host A's plug16:46
kirklandRoAkSoAx: okay16:46
patdk-wkroyk, then you will have to wait for the vcenter timeout16:46
kirklandRoAkSoAx: have you recreated the problem?16:46
RoyKpatdk-wk: then the only way for that VM to survive, is to run on two hosts at the same time16:46
patdk-wkroyk, and why would it move the ram then anyways? cause host A is gone16:46
patdk-wkroyk, no, it won't16:47
RoyKpatdk-wk: are we talking about the same thing?16:47
RoAkSoAxkirkland: on the process.. BW is not helping today16:47
patdk-wkwhat plug did you pull on host A?16:47
patdk-wkI assumed power :)16:47
RoyKthe Big One16:47
patdk-wkthen it's not running on Host A anymore is it? cause the power is off :)16:47
patdk-wkso it's only running on the new host16:48
RoyKpatdk-wk: yes, that's why HA VMs can be set to run on two machines in parallel16:48
RoyKotherwise, you'll need to boot it up on host B16:48
patdk-wkoh, hmm, I know what your talking about now16:48
patdk-wkheh?16:48
patdk-wkwait16:49
patdk-wkyour not using shared storage for the vm's?16:49
RoyKnot for their memory16:49
patdk-wkdunno, my vmware HA clusters don't share memory across systems, probably cause I don't need that16:49
RoyKvery few do16:50
patdk-wkyour not talking HA16:50
patdk-wkyour talking FT16:50
RoyKand then, that wasn't what I was asking about for Xen16:50
patdk-wkfault tolerance16:50
RoyKI sometimes get lost in those terms16:50
RoyKthey are used for different uses across vendors :P16:50
patdk-wkno support for that in xen, as far as I know, but I dunno what xen 4.x does16:50
patdk-wkya, HA just means the vm is running, on some host16:51
patdk-wkFT means, no reboots to do HA16:51
RoyKagain, that wasn't the question, it was just a divert16:51
RoyKso can I do HA with Xen without scripting it myself?16:51
* patdk-wk has no idea what the question is, due to lack of terms :)16:51
patdk-wkfind someone else that scripted it? or buy the xen enterprise?16:51
RoyKpatdk-wk: I know xenserver etc - I was merely asking......16:52
patdk-wkI don't think it's that hard, to use pacemaker to do that16:52
RoyKshould work..16:52
* RoyK can't beleive it's 2011 and Hyper-V still doesn't support memory overcommit16:53
patdk-wkbut, they are working on it :)16:53
patdk-wkkvm doesn't16:53
RoyKyeah, wait till 2020 or so16:53
RoastedQuestion - can anybody make out what's going on here? This is my syslog from my DHCP/LTSP server. My client (connected via cat5) is hanging on boot. Here's the syslog: http://pastebin.com/Cg7qEMFv16:53
RoyKkvm does16:53
patdk-wkwhen did it get it?16:54
patdk-wkI know it had some mem dedup16:54
RoyKsome time back16:54
patdk-wkbut that is hardly overcommit16:54
RoyKhm... seems I might be wrong (again)16:54
RoyKI was _told_ it supported it, but it may seem there are some other methods used16:55
RoyKor ... http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization/sect-Virtualization-Tips_and_tricks-Overcommitting_with_KVM.html16:55
patdk-wkI will have to look some16:55
patdk-wkI'm reading the page from the kvm website on it16:56
patdk-wkI know kvm did kindof support memory ballooning16:56
patdk-wkbut that doesn't work on high memory pressures, like xen/vmware do16:56
RoyKok16:56
patdk-wkballooning is like sharing the ram between vm's, depending on need16:56
patdk-wkbut fails if they all need ram16:57
RoyKic16:57
kirklandDaviey: RoAkSoAx: okay, i have a simple way to reproduce this outside of orchestra16:57
RoyKand that works better on xen?16:57
kirklandsudo apt-get -y etckeeper && sudo env -i PATH=$PATH TERM=$TERM apt-get install -y juju16:57
kirklandDaviey: RoAkSoAx: basically, just ensure that LANG is unset16:58
patdk-wkxen supports overcommit, it won't completely fail, it will get painfully slow though16:58
patdk-wkwhere vmware will maintain it's speed better16:58
patdk-wkI'm like a year out of date on kvm/xen though16:59
RoyKI guess it's time to test xen again, nevertheless16:59
patdk-wkah, there it is17:01
patdk-wklooks like kvm does support overcommit now17:01
ClaesBaspatdk-wk I had to wipe the disks in the end too as you proposed! (could be very tired for less)17:01
patdk-wkit's just so unbelievably painfully slow, it's not practical :)17:01
patdk-wkClaesBas, ya, must of gotten setup with gpt partitions then17:02
patdk-wknormally only needed for >2tb drives, but I tent to do it on >1tb myself17:02
kirklandsudo apt-get -y etckeeper && sudo env -u LANG apt-get install -y juju17:02
kirklandslightly simpler ^17:02
RoyKClaesBas: why?17:02
ClaesBasgpt? I've only used Ubunt server  CD's (advanced) install... (I don't really understand what you mean with gpt)17:05
RoyKglobal partition table17:05
patdk-wkI'm not sure, but I think ubuntu uses gpt by default these days17:05
patdk-wkgpt instead of mbr17:05
RoyKpatdk-wk: not on small drives17:06
ClaesBasMy disks is 750G17:06
ClaesBas4x750G17:06
RoyKall data drives?17:07
RoyKfor raid?17:07
RoyKif so, don't partition them, just give them to md as they are17:07
RoyKsimplifies extending later17:07
RoyKas in when you want to swap them for 2TB drives to add more to the array without moving the data17:08
Doonzpatdk-lapfigured out my problem... hdd dying/died17:08
patdk-wkfun17:08
RoyKif you partition them and try to replace them with larger ones, you'll have a small ordeal to go through to fix the partition tables17:08
ClaesBasOne more stupid thing is that if you setup a "big" software raid the with the installation CD, it tells you to reboot and the grub has "quite", what happens with your not yet fully initiated raid then....17:09
RoyKClaesBas: it'll initiate in the background17:11
RoyKClaesBas: it'll even continue over reboots17:11
RoyKnot start over - continue17:11
RoyK'cept you get an unexpected reboot - that may break it17:11
RoyKunexpected as in someone pulled the power cord17:11
patdk-wkor best case, it just starts the resync over, unless bitmap is turned on17:12
ClaesBasYou get a blank screen after the reboot....17:12
RoyKClaesBas: are you using a separate drive for the root?17:12
RoyKClaesBas: if not, I'd _strongly_ suggest you do17:12
RoyKget some old 10GB ATA drive or something17:12
patdk-wkor you will need to setup partitions17:13
RoyKthen use the big drives for data17:13
RoyKpatdk-wk: bingo17:13
ClaesBasNo, but an own raid1 over 4 disks and no lvm for that partion17:13
* patdk-wk is a fan of 80-160gig drives for boot17:13
patdk-wkraid1? or raid10?17:13
RoyKClaesBas: please, beleive me on this :)17:13
RoyKuse separate _drives_17:13
ClaesBasA stupid 4 disk raid117:14
RoyKit makes life a lot easier when you want to extend that disk set17:14
patdk-wkheh, you will defently need to use partitions, and leave a good 1-2mb free at the start17:14
RoyKClaesBas: even a couple of USB sticks may do the job17:14
patdk-wkI would just use a boot drive though, or boot usb stick17:14
ClaesBasRoyK But if your "server" is a machine with only 4 disks (I payed for it)!17:14
RoyKClaesBas: then an usb stick17:14
RoyKno need for a terabyte for the root17:15
patdk-wkyou only need boot/mbr on the usb sticks17:15
RoyK8GB should do for most17:15
patdk-wkyou don't even need root on it17:15
Davieyzul: how did you get on with bug 87127817:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 871278 in nova "Cannot attach volumes to instances if tgt is used" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87127817:15
Daviey?17:15
RoyKpatdk-wk: it helps for setting up things17:15
patdk-wkroyk, ya helps, but not needed17:15
patdk-wkI do my laptop that way, for security17:15
patdk-wkremove usb stick, no booting the encrypted laptop17:16
RoAkSoAxkirkland: http://me.roaksoax.com/etckeeper.png17:16
RoyKpatdk-wk: plain raid5 md on the disks, simple root fs on the plug17:16
RoyKKISS17:16
kirklandRoAkSoAx: yep, cool17:16
Davieyjamespage: still around?17:17
* RoyK has an old 60GB ATA drive for the root in his home server17:17
patdk-wkyuk, ata17:17
RoyKwell, it works just as well as sata17:17
zulDaviey: sruable17:17
patdk-wkexcept I don't own a motherboard with ata on it :)17:17
RoyKa bit slower, but hell, I don't write data to the root nayway17:17
Davieyzul: yes, but how far through fixing it are you? :)17:17
patdk-wkI do have like 80 250gig wd ata drives, if you want me to ship them :)17:18
zulDaviey: working on it17:18
RoAkSoAxkirkland: so where's the fix17:18
RoyKpatdk-wk: I have a dozen or so 500GB ATA drives - works well for making coasters17:18
RoyKmy family and friends tend to like shiny costers :D17:19
kirklandRoAkSoAx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706853/17:20
kirklandDaviey: RoAkSoAx: FYI, etckeeper fix works like a champ17:20
RoyK!etckeeper17:20
Davieykirkland: enough to state your name against it in an SRU?17:21
RoAkSoAxkirkland: looks good to me gonna try to setup a local repo and get it tested17:22
RoAkSoAxSpamapS: what was the name of the tool you use to create repos?17:23
kirklandRoAkSoAx: reprepo?17:24
RoAkSoAxlocal repos17:24
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ahh yes couldn't remember it . thanks17:24
zulwhy default it to en_US?17:24
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kirklandzul: the critical part is the UTF817:28
kirklandzul: defaulting to en_US.UTF8 because that's what ubuntu defaults to17:28
kirklandzul: without the UTF8 bit, etckeeper (actually, bzr) chokes on filenames that contain UTF8 characters17:28
kirklandzul: our /etc has some of those (most obviously in the /etc/ssl certificates, but could be anywhere)17:29
jamespageDaviey: a bit17:29
kirklandzul: and if LANG is already set in your env, then that'll override17:29
zulk17:30
SpamapSkirkland: LANG=C didn't work ?17:30
kirklandSpamapS: let me test with that ...17:31
SpamapSthat would be the least opinionated ..17:31
kirklandSpamapS: does C imply UTF8?17:31
kirklandSpamapS: i'm firing up a new instance now17:31
SpamapSC implies byte ordering and no encoding17:31
SpamapSit will never mangle anything17:31
SpamapSand really, bzr should be defaulting to C if there's none set17:32
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aibohi, is it possible to install imagemagick without X?17:34
zulDaviey: whoops17:34
RoyKaibo: shouldn't be a problem - it might install some x libs, but the command line tools should work17:34
RoyKaibo: and the x libs won't hurt unless you're _really_ low on disk space17:35
aiboit's VPS, i have 4.5 gigs free17:35
RoyKnot a problem17:35
RoyKdoesn't seem to be a -nox package for it, so just try, and apt-get will tell you how much it'll use17:36
RoyK_before_ installing it17:36
aibookay17:37
RoyKthat's the fun serving VPSes - you charge close to nothing for 4GB and then when the customer wants another 4GB (retail cost ~zero) you add another $10 a month :P17:38
kirklandSpamapS: no-go with LANG=C, same breakage17:39
SpamapSkirkland: very interesting!17:39
kirklandhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/706867/17:39
kirklandSpamapS: ^17:39
RoyKkirkland: what distro?17:40
aiboRoyK, yep, that's exactly what happens17:40
RoyKerm17:40
RoyKversjon17:40
kirklandRoyK: tamulinux17:40
RoyKheh17:40
kirklandwtf?  :-)  Ubuntu17:40
kirklandRoyK: 11.10 :-)17:40
SpamapSkirkland: well that does sound like a bug in bzrlib, but the "default to en_US" seems your only recourse17:41
RoyKkirkland: I just setup 10.11 with etckeeper without issues....17:41
SpamapSRoyK: it happens only when installing on a non-interactive shell17:41
RoyKoh17:41
SpamapSsuch as via cloud-init on first boot17:41
RoyKic17:42
SpamapSkirkland: another option is to try and pick up the machine's locale.17:42
kirklandSpamapS: sounds overly complex;  this "fix" should handle 99.99% of the use cases17:43
RoyKSpamapS: shouldn't C work for them all?17:43
kirklandSpamapS: we're talking about etckeeper here17:43
kirklandSpamapS: and we're talking about the file encoding of /etc17:43
kirklandSpamapS: nothing else17:43
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kirklandSpamapS: it affects nothing else in the distro, AFAICT17:44
uvirtbotNew bug: #872987 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: package samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87298717:44
SpamapSRoyK: thats what I was thinking, but bzrlib seems to be doing something wrong with C17:44
SpamapSkirkland: yeah I'm not worried about it breaking stuff.. just wondering if there's a simple way to pick up the right LANG17:44
SpamapSkirkland: that said.. if bzr requires UTF-8 specifically.. then yeah.. give it what it wans.17:45
SpamapSwants even17:45
* kirkland reboots17:45
huslagehowdy. I'm trying to set up this T-Mobile Rocket 4G USB modem. I've gotten usb_modeswitch to do the right thing and present me with a proper modem. Now I'm stumped about how to get the thing online. It has a usbnet interface as well as the standard AT-commands. I'm not sure how they relate (if at all).17:47
huslagethe modem is a ZTE MF59117:48
kirklandDaviey: SpamapS: RoAkSoAx: I'm uploading the etckeeper fix17:48
kirklandDaviey: do you want it in -proposed?17:48
kirklandDaviey: or oneiric?17:48
Davieykirkland: release pocket is still ok.17:49
kirklandDaviey: uploaded, fixes 2 different-but-similar etckeeper bugs, including our orchestra one17:50
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ok cool17:51
kirklandDaviey: RoAkSoAx: SpamapS: I'll leave it to the Ubuntu Server Team to decide if they want etckeeper recommended or not on Orchestra Clients17:51
RoAkSoAxill wait for that one to be released them17:51
RoAkSoAxkirkland: Daviey I think we should keep it17:51
kirklandI'd like to see it -- but I understand if you guys take a conservative stance at this point17:52
RoAkSoAxwill be a good way to find more errors for 12.04 and besides it is still in universe17:52
kirklandpersonally, I'd be happy to SRU fixes, as necessary17:52
RoAkSoAx+117:52
DavieyRoAkSoAx: you think the benefit makes it worth while having a potential busted juju+orchestra deployment.17:52
kirklandbut that's up to you blokes (/me puts in language that daviey understands :-)17:52
Davieywhere busted = useless?17:52
RoAkSoAxDaviey: right now it is busted. The fix uploaded by kirkland makes it useful again17:52
* kirkland finds lunch before his meeting in 7 minutes17:53
DavieyRoAkSoAx: how is it busted?17:53
DavieyThe fact this pckage is in universe is not relevant, it's essentially supported.17:53
RoAkSoAxDaviey: busted in a way that it fails to create the necessary stuff, but from the testing I did today, it doesn't prevent juju from deploying a machine17:54
RoAkSoAxDaviey: in fact, the machine is up and running normally17:54
RoAkSoAxDaviey: the only issue is that etckeeper was unable to commit for the bug above17:55
RoAkSoAxDaviey: whchi should be fixed now and we should not have any problems17:55
DavieyRoAkSoAx: i've already backed etckeeper out.17:55
DavieyI'm not sure we should reintroduce it at this stage.17:55
RoAkSoAxDaviey: oh ok, so then nope, if it has been removed as recommends, then we should probbaly not reintroduced it17:56
RoAkSoAxDaviey: i thought it still was17:56
RoAkSoAxcause the installation i just did pulled etckeeper17:56
zulDaviey: queued17:57
DavieyRoAkSoAx: yeah, i really didn't want juju busted for the minimal feature improvement TBH.17:58
DavieyRoAkSoAx: i only uploaded it an hour or so ago17:58
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ok17:58
RoAkSoAxDaviey: that's fine then17:58
uvirtbotNew bug: #873001 in ntp (main) "ntp fails to cross-build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87300118:11
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wipi've been hacked... i am using ubuntu hardy LTS that still runs PHP 5.2.4 which have a security issue. how can i upgrade PHP on ubuntu hardy!?18:15
wiphere's what is installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706895/18:16
wipi think it's not a good idea to make a dist-upgrade?!18:16
wipor should i use a PPA thsat provide PHP 5.3?18:19
patdk-wkhmm, that php shouldn't have a security issue, if you update it18:20
patdk-wkwhat exact security issue?18:20
wippatdk-wk, here's my source.lists is everything good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/706899/18:22
* wip finding information about the hack18:22
patdk-wkwell, you have the most current php18:22
patdk-wkso either it was a issue in the php script, or a new issue that hasn't been fixed yet18:23
kirklandSpamapS: do you have time to help negronjl push the cloudfoundry charms to the "best" place in LP?18:24
kirklandSpamapS: I'm thinking somewhere like lp:~cloudfoundry/charm/oneiric/cloudfoundry-*18:24
kirklandSpamapS: negronjl said he was getting some permission denied errors18:24
kirklandSpamapS: I suspect this is something you can help him nail very quickly18:24
wippatdk-wk, here's what happened to me... http://www.jorgepablos.com/2011/03/watch-out-php-5-2-vulnerability-google-results-finditnow-osa-pl/18:24
wippatdk-wk, the article say to upgrade to PHP 5.318:25
patdk-wkthat isn't a hack18:25
patdk-wkthat is what they did AFTER they hacked18:25
wipright, sorry english is not my first language18:26
patdk-wkthe php 5.3 fix, isn't so much a fix as, it breaks code that used older insecure default settings for php18:26
patdk-wkso while 5.3 would fix it, it would break those applications your using that caused the issue18:27
patdk-wkit's really the applications fault though18:27
SpamapSkirkland: ack18:27
wipi cannot check all the sites installed (many artists that doesn't know a thing about wordpress, dupral etc...) so basically i can't do nothing?18:27
patdk-wkoh heh, ya, all it takes is any out of date wordpress install, wordpressed has all kinds of issues18:28
patdk-wkI would recommend 5.3 there yes18:28
patdk-wkbut your customers probably won't be happy about that18:28
patdk-wkcause that WILL break somethings for them18:29
patdk-wkhow many, all depends18:29
wippatdk-wk: is there a way to install PHP 5.3 and be able to downgrade easily?18:29
patdk-wkinstalling via a .deb would be easy, just remove those .deb and reinstall the old .deb18:30
patdk-wkthat goes for ppa/... too18:30
patdk-wkbut I have never attempted to install 5.3 on 8.04 though, so that, I can't answer where to get a nice clean good source of php 5.3 for that18:30
wipfirst aptitude remove libapache2-mod-php5, php5, php5-mysql etc...18:30
wipthen find a good source for php 5.3 dpkg -i php5.318:31
patdk-wkif you install from ppa, to downgrade, remove the php 5.3 ppa, update, then remove/reinstall those :)18:31
patdk-wkwell, to upgrade, you shouldn't need to remove18:31
wippatdk-wk, in ubuntu i never found a complete way to remove a PPA?!18:31
zulDaviey: stilla round?18:32
Davieyzul: yuppers18:32
patdk-wkcomment it out, or delete the file, from /etc/apt/sources.list.d18:32
patdk-wkthen you have to remove those packages from that ppa manually (I think, atleats how I do it)18:32
zulDaviey: i have the nova branch queued up with the iscsitarget fixes and smosers database pool fix18:32
Davieyzul: have a diff?18:32
wippatdk-wk: ok looking for a PPA for hardy (php 5.3)18:32
zulDaviey: should i upload to -proposed?18:32
zulDaviey: uhhhh gimme a sec18:33
* RoyK just started kismet to log traffic in case his network goes down :P18:33
Davieyzul: I think this needs to be -proposed.  Also not certain we need to 0-day it.18:35
zulDaviey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/706909/18:35
wipor maybe if i am lucky i won't be hack again...18:35
patdk-wkwip, unlikely18:36
patdk-wkonce it's hacked once, it gets onto many websites it was, and then other hackers do it to get their name/reputation out there also18:36
sdasd Hi guys, im running the linux-image-2.6.32-29-scst (Debian 10.04) and I have issues inserting the arcmsr module, it states "FATAL: Error inserting arcmsr (/lib/modules/2.6.32-29-server/extra/arcmsr.ko): Invalid module format". I've downloaded the linux-headers-scst (which basically is the 2.6.32.29-server generic + scst). The output of the building of the module can be read here :18:36
sdasdhttp://pastebin.com/JCkBE3A2. Any Pointers/tips :)?18:36
wipso either i brake things by installing PHP 5.3 or i get hack... wow18:37
wipam i the only admin having this issue?18:37
Davieyzul: can you propose your fix to upstream trunk asap?18:37
zulDaviey: the iscsitarget one?18:37
Davieyyah18:37
zulDaviey: taken from it18:38
Daviey+Description: Fix iscsi target path issues.18:38
Daviey+Author: Chuck Short <zulcss@ubuntu.com>18:38
Daviey+Upstream: no18:38
patdk-wkwip, for your case yes18:38
patdk-wkcause your using mod_php18:38
zulDaviey: gah..18:38
patdk-wkso all it takes is one of your customers/sites to get hacked to infect the rest18:38
wippatdk-wk: even if i set the user / group of apache different from the directory of my sites18:39
Davieyzul: where did you get the Upstream tag from? :)18:39
zulmy arse18:39
patdk-wkwip, guess that depends on pache mode, and I know your apache in 8.04 is too old18:40
patdk-wkthat user/group thing is only for use when running cgi's, mod_* is not a cgi18:40
wippatdk-wk: thank you for your time! when you say "cause your using mod_php" what should i use?18:41
patdk-wkto keep users seperate? only two options, cgi :) or fastcgi, where fastcgi needs a php instance running per user18:41
patdk-wkthere are patchs and hacks somewhat to make it easier18:42
patdk-wkphp-ftm? or whatever is suppost to help18:42
patdk-wkbut that is only in php 5.3 I think18:42
wippatdk-wk, no i mean - what are you using if you don't use mod_php?18:42
patdk-wkfastcgi, it's much faster than mod_php18:43
patdk-wkand a lot less resource intensive18:43
patdk-wkisn't that what I just said though?18:43
wippatdk-wk, sorry yes! are you on ubuntu server hardy?18:44
wippatdk-wk, what version of PHP18:44
patdk-wkno, as hardy life is almost over18:44
wipthat is quite funny, i installed hardy like 2 years ago because LTS and now people say the life of hardy is almost over18:45
patdk-wklts is good for 5 years18:45
wipwow, a server is suppose to stay up and running for decades ;)18:45
patdk-wkit has 18 months left?18:45
patdk-wkhardy came out in 200818:45
patdk-wkjust cause you just installed it doesn't mean it lasts longer :)18:46
wippatdk-wk, what will happen after LTS, PHP will not get updated?18:52
patdk-wknothing will get security patchs, or updates18:52
wipanyone ever done apt-get dist-upgrade from hardy?18:52
patdk-wkyou would need to upgrade the server18:52
wipthis is dangerous i guess?18:52
patdk-wkyou should be doing dist-upgrades all the time18:53
patdk-wkor else your kernel will never get security updates18:53
patdk-wkyou mean, do-release-upgrade18:53
patdk-wkto upgrade to 10.04 LTS18:53
wipoups sorry yes do-release-upgrade18:53
* patdk-wk has been known to go directly from 7.04 -> 10.04 doing that, without issue18:54
patdk-wkdefently not recommended or supported though18:54
thesheff17wip: I have18:54
thesheff17it worked fine18:54
* wip is scared to death18:55
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thesheff17wip, backup your data18:55
wipthesheff17, yes i have back-up, but this server have many stuff installed, it's a mail server, http server, sftp server etc...18:55
patdk-wkwip, how cleanly the upgrade goes, depends mainly on how you customized the configs, and how you modified the system18:56
thesheff17well there is a number of things you can do18:56
patdk-wkit should work pretty nicely18:57
thesheff17take an image of the whole thing18:57
thesheff17or drive18:57
patdk-wkbut it all depends on what is going on in that system :)18:57
thesheff17or clone the drive to another one test upgrade18:57
* patdk-wk clones systems to vm instances, upgrade that many times, then upgrades the real system18:57
wipby the way 10.04 LTS have what version of PHP?18:58
patdk-wk5.318:58
jj995any suggestions on a simple logger for a channel on ircd-hybrid?  just logging to a text file on the irc server is desired18:58
patdk-wkPHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.9 with Suhosin-Patch (cli)18:58
wip5.3.6 is released awhile ago... oh well18:58
patdk-wkwip, you have no idea how security updates work, do you18:59
patdk-wkor any distribution18:59
wipoups 5.3.8 is release - ok yes the backport thing18:59
patdk-wkwip would make a good security auditor18:59
wipit's a bit misleading calling php 5.3.2 when it's patched (backport)19:00
wipthat's all19:00
patdk-wkbut it doesn't have the features 5.3.8 has, so that would be misleading also19:00
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sdasdargh, stop being invaldid module format!19:07
RoAkSoAxDaviey: im gonna upload fixes for lp #872926 nad lp #87289219:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 872926 in cobbler "Cobbler repo URL's are broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87292619:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 872892 in cobbler "should remove /etc/apache2/conf.d/cobbler*.conf on postrm" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87289219:20
RoAkSoAxDaviey: and take care of adam's fix19:21
RoAkSoAxadam_g: ping19:29
RoAkSoAxerr adam not her ethis week19:31
Patriot7912How do you make samba a member of a domain?19:31
RoAkSoAxsmoser: ping19:33
smoserRoAkSoAx, here.19:36
RoAkSoAxsmoser: did you re-review https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/lp850880-850866 ?19:38
RoAkSoAxsmoser: did it satifsy all your concerns?19:38
smoserRoAkSoAx, reading19:42
smosera couple things i would comment19:42
smoser* debug() should go to stderr, not stdout19:42
smoseri guess thats it19:43
RoAkSoAxsmoser: cool I guess I can fix that myself and get it uploaded19:44
RoAkSoAxthanks19:44
jfb_h20what's the way to 'disable' the left slot in a pagetemplate or BrowserView?19:47
jfb_h20disregard, wrong irc19:47
kirklandDaviey: fyi, the etckeeper upload was rejected19:51
kirklandDaviey: please advise19:51
uvirtbotNew bug: #873042 in apache2 (main) "unable to build against apr -- undefined reference to `apr_initialize'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87304219:51
* RoAkSoAx will be back later19:52
skriteanyone recommend some mysql benchmarking software? i need to find what settings and engines will work best in our applications19:53
RoyKskrite: dunno - there are several - but the real thing is to test it19:58
RoyKskrite: I'd recommend using postgres, though - less hassle with broken parts and better support for most of the stuff you want (or don't want)19:59
skritemy main idea now is just writing some scripts that will hammer it and measure the times, but was looking for a more professional (read knowledgeable way)19:59
RoyKany particular reason for using mysql?20:00
RoyKmysql is generally a hack, not a good DBMS20:00
RoyKbut then, if you're using stuff like wordpress, you're stuck with it20:00
Davieykirkland: infinity rejected it because it is a shipped package, which doesn't warrant a respin.  He felt that it should be a tradional SRU.20:01
kirklandDaviey: okay20:01
Davieyso reupload to -proposed20:02
kirklandDaviey: i'll reupload to -proposed20:02
Davieycool20:02
kirklandDaviey: does it need the whole SRU blob in the bug reports, etc.?20:02
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kirklandDaviey: uploaded20:03
skriteRoyK, well, i would be open to another database, but have so much code written and in place that i kinda cant20:07
skriteRoyK:  what db do you like?20:08
zulDaviey: ill do the nova upload tomorrow20:08
Davieyzul: cool, that doesn't need to be 0-day IMO.. we'll do the normal 7 day SRU process.20:10
Davieykirkland: probably should.20:10
kirklandDaviey: arg20:10
Davieykirkland: not really my call, you want to check that against the sru team :)20:10
kirklandRoAkSoAx: any chance you can do that?20:10
kirklandDaviey: i really have a million other things i need to work on today20:11
RoyKskrite: I use all sorts of DBMSes, from sqlite to oracle, but I really fancy postgres20:11
Davieykirkland: well i don't think it matters if it is in the archive for release day?20:11
* Daviey goes AWOL20:11
kirklandDaviey: that's kinda what i was thinking20:11
skriteRoyK: , yeah if i could pick today, that is what i would use20:11
RoyKpostgesql20:12
RoyKpostgresql, even20:12
zulDaviey: which segway into my next question should we have a schedule for os sru20:12
allowoverrideyawns20:14
RoAkSoAxkirkland: sure20:15
RoAkSoAxkirkland: will do as soon as I get back20:15
RoAkSoAxkirkland: could you either attache a debdiff to the bug report or send me the pastbinit20:15
RoAkSoAxagain20:15
* RoAkSoAx will be back in 45 mins20:16
adam_gRoAkSoAx: im checking irc periodically. if you /msg me ill respond eventually20:31
adam_gRoAkSoAx: just pushed to lp:~gandelman-a/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/lp850880-850866/ to address scotts comments on debug()20:36
* RoyK just pissed off some people from #zimbra, and it feels good20:49
allowoverrideheheheh20:50
allowoverridewhast that?20:51
RoyKa rather good email or groupware server20:52
allowoverrideohhh20:52
allowoverrideok20:52
RoyKbuilt on postfix and a bunch of other software20:52
RoyKbut they don't want to explain what they do20:52
allowoverridethey dont wan to explain?20:58
allowoverridehow did you come to that final theory20:59
allowoverride?20:59
RoAkSoAxadam_g: cool thanks21:27
RoAkSoAxadam_g: i'll prepare SRU then21:27
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drahstI've got ubuntu server up and running, now I'm starting to install virtuals, but I don't see an option for vmbuilder or virt-install to use an img file that I created (pre-allocated disk space file) to install the os on vs. default. is there any way to make virtbuilder use a specific img file? I created a pre-allocated file to help with i/o, I'd like to have the vm that is created to21:57
drahstuse it21:57
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ping22:02
gholmssoren: What would it take to make uvirtbot ignore eucabot in #eucalyptus so they can't accidentally trigger one another?22:03
sorengholms: I had no idea it was even in there.22:08
gholmsIt isn't yet.22:08
gholmsBut it will be.22:08
sorenSays who?22:08
gholmsMe.  I'm adding it.22:08
sorenAnd how do you expect to do that?22:08
gholmsRunning a supybot instance on projects.eucalyptus.com22:08
sorenErr..22:09
sorenThere can be only one uvirtbot.22:09
gholmsI'm not looking to replace it.22:09
* soren is confused22:09
sorenuvirtbot isn't in #eucalyptus, but it will be, because you'll run another bot on p.e.c?22:10
uvirtbotsoren: Error: "isn't" is not a valid command.22:10
sorenuvirtbot: Thanks, that's really helpful. I appreciate it.22:10
uvirtbotsoren: Error: "Thanks," is not a valid command.22:10
geekbriso im trying to build this .deb file of php.  when i run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot it actually runs my configure which i set with dh_override_auto_configure, and it seems to run a make as well, but it doesn't run make install.  Does this not happen automatically?  Do i need to specify in the debian/rules to run a make install?22:10
gholmsNo, eucabot will be in #eucalyptus, so uvirtbot, which is already there, should ignore it.22:10
sorengholms: Ah.22:10
sorengholms: What will eucabot do?22:11
gholmsBug listing with meetbot22:11
gholmss/with/and/22:11
sorengholms: If it does bug listing, why do you need uvirtbot?22:11
gholms¯\(°_o)/¯22:11
gholmsIt's already there, which is why I'm asking.22:12
* soren is confused again22:12
gholmsMaybe when eucabot is completely set up it won't be necessary?22:12
sorenI don't think I understand the problem :)22:13
sorenuvirtbot's primary job is to announce bugs and look up bugs.22:13
gholmseucabot is a copy of an internal bot that, among other things, responds with bug links and summaries when someone runs ".lp 12345".22:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234522:14
sorenYou're concerned that a coming bot will say things that'll trigger this behaviour.22:14
gholmsIf uvirtbot sees that it will then respond.22:14
gholmsYeah22:14
soren...but if this other bot can say such things, why do you still need uvirtbot?22:14
gholmsI doubt we will.22:14
sorenI have no particular desire to keep it in there. If it's in your way, I'll gladly remove it.22:14
* gholms runs off to ask obino22:14
sorenYou guys work it out. You can just let me know when you want to have it removed.22:15
sorenI need to sleep.22:15
* soren heads bedwards22:15
RoAkSoAxDaviey: orchestra1.1 which has the removal of etckeeper has been rejected btw22:16
gholmssoren: Ok; thanks22:17
DavieyRoAkSoAx: no, i uploaded to both -proposed and release pocket22:26
Davieythe -proposed was rejected at my request22:27
Davieyand the release pocket one is now published22:27
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ohh ok22:28
RoAkSoAxDaviey: alright gonna test fixes for lp #850880 and then I'll sru to -proposed22:29
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 850880 in cobbler "cobbler-ubuntu-import does not pull from -updates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85088022:29
DavieyRoAkSoAx: great, i don't care if that is there at release time fwiw.  I think that can be a normal SRU, but importiant for the future.22:30
RoAkSoAxDaviey: i'm closing couple other bugs with the SRU22:31
DavieyRoAkSoAx: if you wanted to add the love to the bug, but still keep it a sponsored package for adam_g - it might be helpful.22:31
RoAkSoAxbug #872926 and bug #87289222:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 872926 in cobbler "Cobbler repo URL's are broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87292622:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 872892 in cobbler "should remove /etc/apache2/conf.d/cobbler*.conf on postrm" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87289222:31
RoAkSoAxDaviey: i couild 0-day sru those two, and then close adam's later22:32
Davieyooo, more fixes \o/22:32
RoAkSoAxwhen I can test it throughtly22:32
Davieydoes it warrant 0-day?22:33
RoAkSoAxDaviey: well to save uploads 1 woyuld be enough22:33
DavieyRoAkSoAx: I think it's a god compromise to have multiple fixes, following the otherwise normal SRU process.22:35
DavieyWe aren't rushing in fices into -updates, but closing multiple bugs.22:35
DavieyThat is the approach i would recommend22:35
RoAkSoAxDaviey: yeah that's what I'm saying that I'd rather do a single upload22:35
DavieyYeah, i think that is a good compromise.. do that :)22:35
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