[00:20] <bkerensa> MarkDude: iOS5 will allow animated gifs in its new iMessage system :D
[00:20] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I'm looking forward to the new feature so I can send Hamster Dance to other iOS users :D
[00:21] <MarkDude> These gifs are horrid
[00:21] <MarkDude> like they are only missing under construction types
[00:27] <MarkDude> Damn, one thing about Dinner... You have to do sumthin' for it like every damn day
[00:30] <gua> seriously. we need like a food-making organ. get some photosynthesis going.
[00:31] <MarkDude> Well that might not work for the geeks that avoid the sun
[00:31]  * MarkDude would liek that tho
[00:34] <gua> photosynthesis that works with artificial like then heh
[00:38] <MarkDude> lol
[00:39] <gua> so i was thinking that a lot more people would be into a bay area ai/ml/db study group. but not really any action so far at least
[00:39] <MarkDude> Android - C C++ and Java - some really cool is hiring
[00:40] <gua> i mean there's i guess a pretty big meetup going on at hacker dojo more south, but east bay not really any. there might be some good stuff in sf.
[00:40] <gua> MarkDude: no python in there ;/
[00:40] <MarkDude> The requirements for this position include:
[00:40] <MarkDude> 2-3 years' experience coding in Java, preferably with Android
[00:40] <MarkDude> 2-3 years' experience coding in C or C++
[00:40] <MarkDude> a solid understanding of the Linux operating system
[00:40] <MarkDude> experience with embedded systems a plus experience with 3d graphics a plus
[00:41] <MarkDude> gua, I for one got confused my abbrevs
[00:41] <MarkDude> and figured you would share it sometime
[00:41] <MarkDude> Is it too technical?
[00:41] <MarkDude> If so Iam out
[00:46] <gua> MarkDude: ai and db requires no programming experience and basic math experience, ml requires programming experience in addition to the basic math
[00:47] <gua> there are basic and advanced options for ai and ml. basic doesn't have hw but you can watch the videos and answer some questions
[00:47] <gua> tried to send out an announcement email to dvlug before but it didn't go through, hopefully it will this time
[00:48] <MarkDude> Ok, I am more of a talker.
[00:48] <MarkDude> So I am assuming these are things  I could program or dev with?
[00:49] <gua> MarkDude: yep. the ml stuff should be directly applicable, the ai stuff would take more work on your part, and the db stuff is how to use a db with programs you've made
[00:51] <MarkDude> Well I figure I should stick to talking
[00:51] <MarkDude> Folks should either write holistic code, or not do it, imho
[00:52] <MarkDude> specially folks like me. The line of folks ready to code review me - might be substantial
[05:36] <MarkDude> lol Server Error in '/' Application. Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
[05:36] <MarkDude> Gotta love a company that uses facebook to hire people
[05:37] <MarkDude> Please direct your application to our FB page, click like- and this error 1st >> Error 7 (net::ERR_TIMED_OUT): The operation timed out.
[05:39]  * MarkDude knew sumthin could be up when I saw aspx
[13:14] <pleia2> nhaines: www.slideshare.net/pleia2/ubuntu-1110plug (slides from 11.10 presentation last night)
[14:18] <grantbow> \o/
[16:53] <nhaines> pleia2: thanks!
[16:54] <nhaines> pleia2: how did the talk go?
[17:02] <pleia2> nhaines: went well, was very casual (12 people there and I knew them all)
[17:09] <nhaines> pleia2: haha, yay!
[17:09] <nhaines> That's always fun--presenting to friendly audiences.
[17:09] <pleia2> yeah :)
[17:11] <nhaines> At least, LUGs are often friendly but that's not guarantee with Ubuntu... depending on the LUG you could still bomb (right, bkerensa?)
[17:14] <pleia2> one of the gentoo leadership guys goes to plug, but we've been friendly for years and he's cool so it's all good
[17:16] <nhaines> There are a couple OCLUG members who don't make any bones about their opinion about Ubuntu.  But to my good fortune, my Ubuntu talks are extremely well-received.
[17:16] <nhaines> Everyone wants to know what's going on.  I know I'm interested in the Red Hat talks others occasionally give.
[17:26] <pleia2> fortunately I'm highly respected in the community, so if people have differing opinions they're either polite about it or stay quiet
[17:26] <pleia2> it's nice
[17:28] <nhaines> Well, that always helps too!
[17:28] <pleia2> PLUG has also been a very debian-centric lug in general too, so ubuntu fits in pretty well
[17:32] <pleia2> I don't know why tech conferences ever bother offering non-caffeinated drinks
[17:32]  * pleia2 got the last caffeinated pepsi, there were tons of no caffeine
[17:32] <pleia2> maybe muggles like non-caffeine and they just go with whatever the hotel offers :)
[17:48] <nhaines> pleia2: two SCaLEs ago they had Brawndo.
[17:48] <nhaines> It's got what plants crave!
[17:48] <bkerensa> nhaines: Correct
[17:48] <bkerensa> nhaines: ORLUG is actually like all the lugs in oregon and the general consensus seems to be they dislike Ubuntu and Canonical
[17:51] <nhaines> Last time I gave a talk at OCLUG (April), one person was complaining about Unity (and GUIs in general) and someone shut him down with "I'm trying to listen to this presentation and you're being very rude" before I had a chance to address him.  So that worked out.  :)
[17:52] <nhaines> (He wasn't addressing my presentation, he was continuing an odd rant about how X Windows is useless.)
[17:57] <nhaines> I think I said something about how great it was to build a GUI on a solid CLI tool and give the ease and accessibility to new users, the power to experts, and the choice to pick the most suitable interface for each situation.
[18:26] <MarkDude> So repairman today saw my Linux
[18:26] <MarkDude> said he runs Ubuntu for his mom
[18:26] <MarkDude> And also dual boots on his mac
[18:27] <gua> hi5