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pavel__whats school00:26
pavel__*what school00:26
SamuraiAlbaCumberland County College in Vineland NJ00:39
MutantTurkeyMontgomery County CC ftw00:47
=== Sadin is now known as Sadin|asleep
pavel__hello04:16
beta0x64hi04:18
pavel__hows it going04:30
andrewmorning04:35
pavel__hello04:38
beta0x64I'm trying to decide on a language to work in04:43
beta0x64I want to master one programming language but I can't choose04:43
pavel__c/C++04:44
andrewEnglish05:42
TheEvilPhoenixlol05:43
beta0x64when I'm asked on a job application "highest education" and I am still in college for my BS06:03
beta0x64do I say high school or BS?06:03
pavel__HS06:05
pavel__thats the last axquired degree06:05
pavel__unless you can say that ur currently enrolled in the bs06:05
beta0x64pavel__, unfortunately it's not an option. that was what I was hoping wasn't true lol06:10
beta0x64I think I want to master PHP06:10
* beta0x64 waits for flames06:10
pavel__ive tried06:11
pavel__never got far06:11
pavel__realize im not a web type person06:11
beta0x64it seems so saturated :(06:12
beta0x64I am wondering just how far I have to go to be marketable06:12
pavel__well put06:12
pavel__uh have working examples06:13
pavel__i wish i masterd fotoshop or illustrator06:13
beta0x64that's also saturated I think06:14
pavel__very.06:17
pavel__just like dj software06:17
JonathanDMorning.08:15
rmg51morning JonathanD08:53
JonathanDhey rmg5108:57
rmg510/08:57
InHisNamemorning to u 210:30
jedijfstill wooting off11:22
teddy-dbearmorning12:05
jedijfmorning12:06
InHisNamestill buying things at woot, jedijf ?12:15
jedijffighting12:18
jedijfhard12:18
jedijfdon't think i bought anything yesterday...2 close calls12:19
InHisNameThere was a nice lappy for only $499 for those with income.12:24
jedijfInHisName: which one, i was fighting off the samsung for 5 and change12:44
jedijfi feel weaker today12:44
InHisNameAwwww12:44
InHisNameHow come you are not one of those die hards that buy one each of everything ?   How do they find time to open and use each item even if no job at all?12:47
teddy-dbearonly one day to go! :-[13:03
teddy-dbearPAR...TAY!!!13:03
jthanMorning everyone13:42
InHisNameHowdy jthan13:56
jthanWhat's going on?13:57
InHisNameinstalled win8 for grins.   Kinda slow in vbox.  Menu system more 'alien' than even unity.14:00
JonathanDInHisName: I have it on a lenovo tablet.14:01
JonathanDan x20014:01
jthanFun stuff14:01
InHisNameHP sent me note yesterday that my HP tablet is coming in 2 weeks.  Wierd.... they said they were making more to satisfy all the orders during the inventory blow-out pricing in Aug.14:02
InHisNameAlso re-organizing my 'computer-room' in my basement.14:04
InHisNameTrying to fit everything into it.   HAH !   Really old stuff will have to go to attic for storage.14:05
MutantTurkeymorning14:06
InHisNameMutated and no mobile this morning ?14:09
MutantTurkeytechnically I am always mobile now14:09
MutantTurkeyso I realized the mobile turkey was irrelevant14:09
MutantTurkeyI am free range!14:09
* MutantTurkey queues born to be wild on amarok14:09
InHisNamebetween lectures with profs, MutantTurkey ?    Hope you're not ignoring one now.14:12
MutantTurkeyInHisName: class starts right about now14:13
InHisNameanyone know lots about wireless access points and diff when advertisements say 150 MB or 300 or 450 ?18:31
InHisNamemegabits18:32
MutantTurkeyyes18:36
MutantTurkeydon't listen to any, but cheapest one18:36
MutantTurkeythey are all poorly built and designed to last less than 5 years18:36
InHisNamewhaddya have for wireless, mut18:55
InHisNameoh you're gone already18:56
jedijfrunning 11.1020:58
MutantTurkeyoneiric is a pain in my buttox20:59
* MutantTurkey hides20:59
jedijfso far treatring me better than woot....i want a bag of crap21:01
jedijffont is funny21:01
jedijfmy irssi cursor is outlined21:02
jedijfok don't like cursor options21:05
JonathanDBOC!21:07
jedijfJonathanD: you coming down to release party?21:21
JonathanDHmm21:22
JonathanDin the city?21:22
JonathanDThats halloween :/ we'll be camping.21:22
andrewmorning21:34
Sadinjedijf i wish i could i only have learners permit and no way will my parents let me go down to philly on that lol21:39
jedijfJonathanD: it's tomorrow21:49
jedijfSadin: maybe another event, this is a 21+ location21:49
Sadinah well i cant even go anyway21:51
MutantTurkeySadin: stuck with your permit too? meh21:53
MutantTurkeyjedijf: there are not 21+ locations i know of21:55
MutantTurkeyyou mean 18+21:55
MutantTurkey18 you can get into bars21:56
jedijfyeah but we don't want/need that drama either21:56
MutantTurkeyyeah understood21:56
jedijfif you said you liked unity i may buy you a drink21:56
Sadini like unity but i am straight edge and refuse to drink :O21:57
JonathanDoh!21:57
MutantTurkeypfft unity sucks21:57
MutantTurkeyits like using a mac but worse21:57
jedijfSadin: no worries, me too!21:57
jedijfand i am old21:57
MutantTurkeyI mean I genuinely tried to like it.21:57
Sadini enjoy unity but im using gnome321:58
JonathanDi dont hate it21:58
jedijfMutantTurkey: you did not21:58
jedijf6 weeks is genuine try21:58
* Sadin wins used it since release of 11.0421:58
* Sadin is now on gnome3 though21:58
jedijfsee, i like unity better than gnome3, but that's because of usage21:59
Sadinfor "reasons" not because i hated unity but im using fedora on my laptop now21:59
* Sadin hides from ubuntu mob21:59
jedijfgnome3 sits on a box that I rarely start x on21:59
Sadin<3 ubuntu21:59
Sadinbut im an official member of the fedora design team jedijf :D22:00
jedijfSadin: it doesn't matter what distro you use; we have what no one else has, *community*22:00
Sadinwhen you mean no one else what do you mean distros or loco teams22:00
jedijfand if we weren't open-minded, wouldn't that be a little hypocritical22:01
Sadintrue very true22:01
jedijfSadin: the whole community 'thing' others have tried, but nothing is close22:01
jedijfsure, nice wikis, good forums, busy irc, but rare release events and physical meatspacey stuff22:02
Sadinjedijf i designed the banner for the main fedora website for the release of 16 :) its approved but onece its implimented ill get my own @fedoraproject.org email and contibuter benifits22:02
Sadinjedijf by 'others' do you mean distros22:03
SadinO22:03
Sadin:O22:03
jedijfyes22:03
Sadinah well i have a reason for using fedora because the ubuntu design team is very hypocritical in the teams of open ness22:04
jedijfor just bad timing22:04
Sadinand i wanted to contibute to a distro in terms of design22:04
jedijfpeople get touchy around release time22:04
Sadinjedijf i guess i just like the way things are handled on fedoras better but i love the ubuntu OS more to be honest22:05
Sadinfedoras design team*22:05
Sadinubuntu has the best community by far22:06
Sadin:)22:06
jedijfi thought the design team was a canonical thing22:11
Sadinwell you can submit things and they vote22:12
Sadinthe thing is thats not open i mean you can be one of the hundreds of people who submit say a wallpaper then 5 people vote and no one else besides the people who work for canonical can have a say really. as opposed to in fedoras where people can only vote if they are a member however anyone can opt to be a member as long as they rove them selves by completing a design task o their choise to take on. I like how fedora handles th22:14
Sadinings better but thats just my opinion doesnt make them better22:14
MutantTurkeyubuntu is a corporate baby.22:14
MutantTurkeyalmost as bad as microsoft imho22:15
Sadinno never dont go there22:15
Sadin:|22:15
MutantTurkeythey don't even mention that it is linux on the home page22:15
MutantTurkeyWHAT THE FUCK STOP TAKING CREDIT FOR DECADES OF WORK THAT YOU DIDN'T DO.22:15
* MutantTurkey throws change in the swear jar22:15
MutantTurkeybut seriously, respect is due where it is due22:16
Sadincalm lol thats not how to handle things and yes your right22:16
Sadinrespect is due22:16
MutantTurkeyokay, now go to the "why it's free" page22:16
MutantTurkeyNOPE NOPE NOPE CHUCK TESLA THEY DON'T MENTION LINUX THERE EITHER22:16
MutantTurkeyapparently it's an operating system that was completely created by the glorious canonnical, which making design decisions that suck, and that all others distros have to follow.22:16
MutantTurkeyF THAT S***22:17
Sadincaps isnt nessisary22:17
Sadinand how old are you?22:17
Sadin:O22:17
MutantTurkeySadin: 17, but it doesn't matter my age.22:17
Sadinwell you act alot younger :)22:17
MutantTurkeyubuntu just makes me furious these days.22:17
MutantTurkeygoing from ubuntu 7.10 to 11.10 is disgusting, it went from a free, open source GNU/Linux box that enabled productivity into some sort of cloud opreating system apparently entirely created by cannincal, forcing you into their poor design decisions22:18
MutantTurkeymeh.22:18
MutantTurkeySadin: duely noted, I do attempt to act more mature typically, but i make exceptions22:19
MutantTurkeysomeone needs to slap them in the face22:20
MutantTurkeyand it should be the ubuntu community.22:20
Sadin:P22:20
MutantTurkey:|22:20
MutantTurkeySadin: zero laughs were had that day22:20
Sadinnow thats what i wanted to see and honest answer/opinion not all caps rage and swearing :P22:21
MutantTurkeymark shuttle worth needs to jump some cliffs22:21
MutantTurkeyat least bill gates is a good guy22:21
Sadinnot in his early days22:21
MutantTurkeyrelevant: http://i.imgur.com/DjqMN.jpg22:21
Sadinthank god the government shut him down22:21
MutantTurkeyanyway, gotta go eat22:21
MutantTurkeymore on this later. thanks for tuning in folks!22:22
Sadinlol22:22
jedijfsomeone had too much occupyphilly22:42
jedijfa rebuttal is in order22:43
jedijfthe default image is aimed at a non-technical desktop user, more like an average windows or mac user22:43
jedijfthose of us, who would like a more technical experience, would/should know to construct their system to their liking22:44
andrewevening, jedijf22:44
jedijfeither by using the alternate install cli only (which provides desktop kernel) or the server install, and building up from there22:45
jedijfrebuttal over22:45
jedijfevening andrew22:45
jedijfandrew: you coming down tomorrow? or climbing a rock or something22:46
andrewSorry, had other plans scheduled before I got word of tomorrow's gathering22:46
andrewat least I got to see pleia2 last night22:46
jedijfyou will be missed22:47
jedijfyeah, that was good22:47
andrewI know :-/22:47
jedijfi'm stealing her preso - i love openess22:47
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!22:47
SamuraiAlbaHiya, jedijf22:47
jedijfhey SamuraiAlba22:47
jedijfandrew: do you have calendar access?22:47
SamuraiAlbaHow is it going, jedijf?22:48
jedijfubuntu-pa calendar access22:48
jedijfSamuraiAlba: good, keep waking up22:48
jedijfSamuraiAlba: and you?22:48
SamuraiAlbaWorking in IT at the college, now22:48
jedijfSamuraiAlba: great22:49
SamuraiAlbaAnyone have a use for several Cisco 3548 XL switches?22:50
andrewjedijf: don't think so22:50
SamuraiAlbaFound em for under $40 EACH :)22:50
SamuraiAlba48 Port 10/100 Managed22:50

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