[00:26] whats school [00:26] *what school [00:39] Cumberland County College in Vineland NJ [00:47] Montgomery County CC ftw === Sadin is now known as Sadin|asleep [04:16] hello [04:18] hi [04:30] hows it going [04:35] morning [04:38] hello [04:43] I'm trying to decide on a language to work in [04:43] I want to master one programming language but I can't choose [04:44] c/C++ [05:42] English [05:43] lol [06:03] when I'm asked on a job application "highest education" and I am still in college for my BS [06:03] do I say high school or BS? [06:05] HS [06:05] thats the last axquired degree [06:05] unless you can say that ur currently enrolled in the bs [06:10] pavel__, unfortunately it's not an option. that was what I was hoping wasn't true lol [06:10] I think I want to master PHP [06:10] * beta0x64 waits for flames [06:11] ive tried [06:11] never got far [06:11] realize im not a web type person [06:12] it seems so saturated :( [06:12] I am wondering just how far I have to go to be marketable [06:12] well put [06:13] uh have working examples [06:13] i wish i masterd fotoshop or illustrator [06:14] that's also saturated I think [06:17] very. [06:17] just like dj software [08:15] Morning. [08:53] morning JonathanD [08:57] hey rmg51 [08:57] 0/ [10:30] morning to u 2 [11:22] still wooting off [12:05] morning [12:06] morning [12:15] still buying things at woot, jedijf ? [12:18] fighting [12:18] hard [12:19] don't think i bought anything yesterday...2 close calls [12:24] There was a nice lappy for only $499 for those with income. [12:44] InHisName: which one, i was fighting off the samsung for 5 and change [12:44] i feel weaker today [12:44] Awwww [12:47] How come you are not one of those die hards that buy one each of everything ? How do they find time to open and use each item even if no job at all? [13:03] only one day to go! :-[ [13:03] PAR...TAY!!! [13:42] Morning everyone [13:56] Howdy jthan [13:57] What's going on? [14:00] installed win8 for grins. Kinda slow in vbox. Menu system more 'alien' than even unity. [14:01] InHisName: I have it on a lenovo tablet. [14:01] an x200 [14:01] Fun stuff [14:02] HP sent me note yesterday that my HP tablet is coming in 2 weeks. Wierd.... they said they were making more to satisfy all the orders during the inventory blow-out pricing in Aug. [14:04] Also re-organizing my 'computer-room' in my basement. [14:05] Trying to fit everything into it. HAH ! Really old stuff will have to go to attic for storage. [14:06] morning [14:09] Mutated and no mobile this morning ? [14:09] technically I am always mobile now [14:09] so I realized the mobile turkey was irrelevant [14:09] I am free range! [14:09] * MutantTurkey queues born to be wild on amarok [14:12] between lectures with profs, MutantTurkey ? Hope you're not ignoring one now. [14:13] InHisName: class starts right about now [18:31] anyone know lots about wireless access points and diff when advertisements say 150 MB or 300 or 450 ? [18:32] megabits [18:36] yes [18:36] don't listen to any, but cheapest one [18:36] they are all poorly built and designed to last less than 5 years [18:55] whaddya have for wireless, mut [18:56] oh you're gone already [20:58] running 11.10 [20:59] oneiric is a pain in my buttox [20:59] * MutantTurkey hides [21:01] so far treatring me better than woot....i want a bag of crap [21:01] font is funny [21:02] my irssi cursor is outlined [21:05] ok don't like cursor options [21:07] BOC! [21:21] JonathanD: you coming down to release party? [21:22] Hmm [21:22] in the city? [21:22] Thats halloween :/ we'll be camping. [21:34] morning [21:39] jedijf i wish i could i only have learners permit and no way will my parents let me go down to philly on that lol [21:49] JonathanD: it's tomorrow [21:49] Sadin: maybe another event, this is a 21+ location [21:51] ah well i cant even go anyway [21:53] Sadin: stuck with your permit too? meh [21:55] jedijf: there are not 21+ locations i know of [21:55] you mean 18+ [21:56] 18 you can get into bars [21:56] yeah but we don't want/need that drama either [21:56] yeah understood [21:56] if you said you liked unity i may buy you a drink [21:57] i like unity but i am straight edge and refuse to drink :O [21:57] oh! [21:57] pfft unity sucks [21:57] its like using a mac but worse [21:57] Sadin: no worries, me too! [21:57] and i am old [21:57] I mean I genuinely tried to like it. [21:58] i enjoy unity but im using gnome3 [21:58] i dont hate it [21:58] MutantTurkey: you did not [21:58] 6 weeks is genuine try [21:58] * Sadin wins used it since release of 11.04 [21:58] * Sadin is now on gnome3 though [21:59] see, i like unity better than gnome3, but that's because of usage [21:59] for "reasons" not because i hated unity but im using fedora on my laptop now [21:59] * Sadin hides from ubuntu mob [21:59] gnome3 sits on a box that I rarely start x on [21:59] <3 ubuntu [22:00] but im an official member of the fedora design team jedijf :D [22:00] Sadin: it doesn't matter what distro you use; we have what no one else has, *community* [22:00] when you mean no one else what do you mean distros or loco teams [22:01] and if we weren't open-minded, wouldn't that be a little hypocritical [22:01] true very true [22:01] Sadin: the whole community 'thing' others have tried, but nothing is close [22:02] sure, nice wikis, good forums, busy irc, but rare release events and physical meatspacey stuff [22:02] jedijf i designed the banner for the main fedora website for the release of 16 :) its approved but onece its implimented ill get my own @fedoraproject.org email and contibuter benifits [22:03] jedijf by 'others' do you mean distros [22:03] O [22:03] :O [22:03] yes [22:04] ah well i have a reason for using fedora because the ubuntu design team is very hypocritical in the teams of open ness [22:04] or just bad timing [22:04] and i wanted to contibute to a distro in terms of design [22:04] people get touchy around release time [22:05] jedijf i guess i just like the way things are handled on fedoras better but i love the ubuntu OS more to be honest [22:05] fedoras design team* [22:06] ubuntu has the best community by far [22:06] :) [22:11] i thought the design team was a canonical thing [22:12] well you can submit things and they vote [22:14] the thing is thats not open i mean you can be one of the hundreds of people who submit say a wallpaper then 5 people vote and no one else besides the people who work for canonical can have a say really. as opposed to in fedoras where people can only vote if they are a member however anyone can opt to be a member as long as they rove them selves by completing a design task o their choise to take on. I like how fedora handles th [22:14] ings better but thats just my opinion doesnt make them better [22:14] ubuntu is a corporate baby. [22:15] almost as bad as microsoft imho [22:15] no never dont go there [22:15] :| [22:15] they don't even mention that it is linux on the home page [22:15] WHAT THE FUCK STOP TAKING CREDIT FOR DECADES OF WORK THAT YOU DIDN'T DO. [22:15] * MutantTurkey throws change in the swear jar [22:16] but seriously, respect is due where it is due [22:16] calm lol thats not how to handle things and yes your right [22:16] respect is due [22:16] okay, now go to the "why it's free" page [22:16] NOPE NOPE NOPE CHUCK TESLA THEY DON'T MENTION LINUX THERE EITHER [22:16] apparently it's an operating system that was completely created by the glorious canonnical, which making design decisions that suck, and that all others distros have to follow. [22:17] F THAT S*** [22:17] caps isnt nessisary [22:17] and how old are you? [22:17] :O [22:17] Sadin: 17, but it doesn't matter my age. [22:17] well you act alot younger :) [22:17] ubuntu just makes me furious these days. [22:18] going from ubuntu 7.10 to 11.10 is disgusting, it went from a free, open source GNU/Linux box that enabled productivity into some sort of cloud opreating system apparently entirely created by cannincal, forcing you into their poor design decisions [22:18] meh. [22:19] Sadin: duely noted, I do attempt to act more mature typically, but i make exceptions [22:20] someone needs to slap them in the face [22:20] and it should be the ubuntu community. [22:20] :P [22:20] :| [22:20] Sadin: zero laughs were had that day [22:21] now thats what i wanted to see and honest answer/opinion not all caps rage and swearing :P [22:21] mark shuttle worth needs to jump some cliffs [22:21] at least bill gates is a good guy [22:21] not in his early days [22:21] relevant: http://i.imgur.com/DjqMN.jpg [22:21] thank god the government shut him down [22:21] anyway, gotta go eat [22:22] more on this later. thanks for tuning in folks! [22:22] lol [22:42] someone had too much occupyphilly [22:43] a rebuttal is in order [22:43] the default image is aimed at a non-technical desktop user, more like an average windows or mac user [22:44] those of us, who would like a more technical experience, would/should know to construct their system to their liking [22:44] evening, jedijf [22:45] either by using the alternate install cli only (which provides desktop kernel) or the server install, and building up from there [22:45] rebuttal over [22:45] evening andrew [22:46] andrew: you coming down tomorrow? or climbing a rock or something [22:46] Sorry, had other plans scheduled before I got word of tomorrow's gathering [22:46] at least I got to see pleia2 last night [22:47] you will be missed [22:47] yeah, that was good [22:47] I know :-/ [22:47] i'm stealing her preso - i love openess [22:47] Good bacon to all! [22:47] Hiya, jedijf [22:47] hey SamuraiAlba [22:47] andrew: do you have calendar access? [22:48] How is it going, jedijf? [22:48] ubuntu-pa calendar access [22:48] SamuraiAlba: good, keep waking up [22:48] SamuraiAlba: and you? [22:48] Working in IT at the college, now [22:49] SamuraiAlba: great [22:50] Anyone have a use for several Cisco 3548 XL switches? [22:50] jedijf: don't think so [22:50] Found em for under $40 EACH :) [22:50] 48 Port 10/100 Managed