/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/12/#ubuntu-us-tn.txt

* cyberanger wants to embargo every company who assisted in the NSA illegal wiretapping scandel00:04
cyberangerproblem is the same as boycotting the PRC in support of the tibetians,they make everything, including the free tibet stickers00:05
cyberangerwb cosmicpizza00:09
cyberangerlol whoops00:09
cyberangerwb chris458500:09
cyberangerwb chris458500:14
binarymutantwb chris458500:14
chris4585thanks00:15
chris4585lol @ icq, apparently I'm a bot/drone00:29
wrstbinarymutant: yep that's dsl00:29
chris4585xchat is strange at times... connects here yet not any of my other channels00:29
wrstUnit193: ok i have headphones hooked up to that machine and it creeped me out when i went in the room :)00:41
cyberangerwrst: why, that loud?00:42
wrstit wasn't loud it was like a whisper00:43
Unit193Nice...00:43
Unit193I had one that really got me :P00:43
cyberangerwrst: lol sweet00:43
wrstyeah only thing i'm about pegged out on memory usage little feller just has 256MB00:44
cyberangerwrst: swap?00:45
wrstits all free set up 500M of swap00:46
wrstonly a 10GB hard drive :)00:46
wrsti'm going to try to see what type of memory it uses, if its something like ddr laptopish stuff i might be able to expand it but I don't recall it being "servicable"00:46
cyberangerwrst: is it using it01:01
wrstfree -m cyberanger tells me that 165MB is cached, what does that mean?01:04
cyberangersay what01:05
binarymutantwow don't ever chmod /etc/sudoers01:05
binarymutantthat was a hassle01:05
wrstfound it cyberanger01:05
* wrst should google first!01:05
cyberangerbinarymutant: lol oh boy01:06
binarymutantya01:07
binarymutantfixed it, but had to reboot into recovery mode root shell blah blah01:07
binarymutantwhat a mess01:07
wrstcyberanger: so it was cached not exactly sure what that means but i dropped it and I'm just using 33MB01:07
cyberangeryep01:07
wrst*yet01:07
cyberangersince by doing that tyou damaged sudo01:08
cyberangerwrst: in use, being utilized01:08
binarymutantit really doesn't make sense to me that root can't change a file01:08
binarymutanterr fakeroot*01:08
wrstyes i guess cached is there for something to make something faster but if needed it gets uncached and used01:08
cyberangerbinarymutant: that file, and it's called fakeroot for a reason anyhow01:09
binarymutantbrb01:10
binarymutantsweet, on a server now so I shouldn't be dropped anymore01:10
wrstcool binarymutant what type of server?01:11
binarymutantvirtual :D01:11
binarymutantubuntu01:11
* cyberanger shines his kicking boots preparing to test that theroy01:11
binarymutant** network dropped **01:11
* cyberanger realizes these aren't his kicking boots01:12
binarymutantthose are tap dancing shoes01:12
cyberangerworse, crocks,01:13
binarymutantlols01:13
cyberangerow owie owie owwww01:15
binarymutantokay once more and I'll be set01:19
cyberangerset?01:21
binarymutantgo01:21
binarymutantstoopid scripts are working though, missing deps01:22
binarymutantdone01:23
binarymutantI wonder if irssi can rearrange the tabs ...01:27
binarymutantwhat was that irc bouncer called that pace_t_zulu uses?01:37
binarymutantxvc?01:37
binarymutantznc01:38
Unit193^^01:38
cyberangerbinarymutant: tabs, you mean windows, and yes it can01:38
binarymutantcyberanger: got it01:39
binarymutantcyberanger: /window move left|right01:39
cyberangeryep01:40
cyberangerbinarymutant: and it's znc01:40
binarymutantI'm not sure about znc yet... I do like the idea of not having my hostname show01:41
binarymutantor mask, or whatever it's called01:41
wrstbinarymutant: you don't have to have a znc for that01:41
binarymutantwrst: what else can I do for that?01:42
Unit193Take a stroll into #freenode and ask for a cloak (and dagger)01:42
wrstbinarymutant: ^^^ they will fix you up01:42
cyberangerand that's not why he suggested it, it's an irc proxy of sorts01:42
cyberangerpersistant connection, then your client connects to it like it's the irc server01:43
cyberangertada01:43
binarymutantthe proxy that znc uses is better than a cloak since I wouldn't have to ask every server I connect to01:45
cyberangerznc is the proxy01:47
cyberangerbut yes01:47
binarymu1antznc, too complicated02:20
=== binarymu1ant is now known as binarymutant
wrstbinarymutant: i haven't explored znc02:24
binarymutanttoo complicated for just a quick setup&go02:25
wrstyeah kinda expected that i may play with it on my new found server :)02:25
binarymutantI was ran into problems logging into it02:26
binarymutantohwell, screen works just fine02:26
wrstthe being connected and using any client or what not is appealing02:27
binarymutantyes if your using windows or multiple clients02:27
binarymutantnot really for me02:28
wrstyeah i'm on windows, but i have quassel client for windows or you can always use putty and irssi/weechat02:29
binarymutantI like the latter02:29
binarymutantmuch simpler02:29
wrstyes02:30
wrstbinarymutant: wasn't too bad :)02:38
wrsthmm i named it the wrong dumb thing!02:38
wrstthat took a while to join02:39
wrstbut the web interface is pretty neat02:47
binarymutantwrst: your on it now?02:47
wrstyeah but can't get a client to connect :)02:48
binarymutantwompwomp02:48
binarymutant127.0.0.1 whateverport02:48
wrstyeah but was asking user/pass blah or was on irssi i will stick with quassel for now02:49
binarymutantya! That's the problem I had02:49
wrstbut guess i could have vnc and have quassel core linked to it02:49
wrstznc02:50
wrstbut seems like much ado and little to gain for me02:50
binarymutanttoo complicated02:50
wrstthis is pretty amazing only using 38 MB of RAM02:51
binarymutantyour computer?02:51
wrstoh goodness no telling what my laptop is using but that little thing i got working last night02:52
cyberangerfellas, is the username in the config perhaps02:52
binarymutantwowza, that "little thing" is super small02:52
wrstbinarymutant: http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/webmin.png02:53
wrstadd a few MB when i started pianobar02:54
binarymutantoooh02:54
binarymutant379mb here :/02:55
binarymutantI wonder why my swap is always 0mb02:57
wrstcyberanger, binarymutant here is that machine I have been messing with:http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/computer.jpg02:58
binarymutantahh it's literally small02:58
binarymutantlol02:58
wrstyes very much so :)02:58
binarymutantdoes it even have a fan?02:59
wrsti am practicing for a raspberry pi02:59
wrstno fan02:59
binarymutantwow02:59
wrstno place for air flow02:59
binarymutantlike an appliance02:59
wrstyes02:59
binarymutantlol it's smaller than my router02:59
wrstthan mine also :)03:00
binarymutantso that's the ppc?03:01
wrstno its the via chip03:01
wrstthe ppc is an old macbook03:01
binarymutantah03:01
wrstweek off i have more piddling time03:02
Unit193That's a nice little thing...03:07
wrstUnit193: i'm liking it, not going to win any speed races but... has its place03:08
Unit193Faster than my computer with full desktop... Mind if I ask price?03:10
wrstUnit193: i think i gave linuxman410 30 bucks or something for it03:11
Unit193Nice, that's just awesome...03:12
wrstyeah he couldn't get anything to work on it, i played with it about a year ago and didn't either then finally noticed the ide drive and thought jumpers!03:13
cyberangerI'd say that's smaller than my router, but one of my router is about that size03:16
cyberangerand the other two are towers and 2u servers (out of order currently)03:16
wrstcyberanger: my big thing is what to do with this little jewel :)03:19
* Unit193 could think of a few things...03:20
wrstUnit193: i can too just not for sure which ones03:20
wrsti have a laser printer that i would like to have in a remote location but seems a little too much just for a print server03:21
* Unit193 wonders when the LoCo members are going to start personal blogs03:22
cyberangerUnit193: going to?03:23
Unit193You have the Swissknife one, but not sure that counts :D03:23
cyberangerwrst: got a list of 100 ideas, and that's the short list03:24
wrstha ha03:24
cyberangerUnit193: well it doesn't, but all others aren't internet facing03:25
Unit193cyberanger: Makes sense. I setup wordpress for the fun of it then added a post03:25
Unit193(Same idea, not public)03:25
binarymutantwe should setup blog03:27
binarymutantblogs*03:27
binarymutantand have ubuntu-tennessee.org syndicate them03:28
wrstUnit193: i'm liking this never thought i would be streaming music on a "server"03:34
Unit193wrst: It's Pandora, it's awesome! Did you get remote audio setup too?03:36
wrstno haven't done that, hmm how big of a deal is that?03:38
Unit193Not done it yet, but I have a page or two getting me setup03:39
cyberangerwrst: big of a deal or a big of a mess/pain/pain in the duff/ars*/@$$03:39
wrstthink i will pass then :)03:40
binarymutantlirc should be easy03:40
binarymutantor use a laptop/mobile device and ssh as a remote :D03:40
Unit193But LOIC is more fun ;)03:41
cyberangerbinarymutant: lirc is easy03:42
binarymutant:~$ wtf loic\n Gee... I don't know what loic means...03:42
cyberangerwrst: it's a minor deal, a medium pain03:42
cyberangerand it can be worth the pain, but not always03:42
wrstcyberanger: what tool do you use to do it?03:43
binarymutantlow orbit ion cannon03:46
binarymutant!03:46
wrstha ha well off to bed I go have a good night everyone03:48
binarymutantnight wrst03:48
Unit193You got it :P03:48
Unit193And good night (even though you're already gone)03:48
wrstha Unit193 caught it before I left, goodnight03:49
cyberangerwrst: pulseaudio or portaudio03:51
cyberangerlike I said, I dislike pulse for regular use, this it was meant for however03:51
cyberangerbinarymutant: low orbit limits the firing time over an area, I use a high orbit ion cannon with radar absorbant material & a IR reducing paint03:52
cyberangerstealth ion cannon ;-)03:52
binarymutantcyberanger: it's a ddos tool03:54
binarymutant4chan approved apparently03:54
binarymutantI mean, anon approved. Same thing.03:54
cyberangerhaha03:54
cyberangeryeah, but I like my version better03:55
binarymutant:D03:55
binarymutantwtf, it has to be charter. No longer on wifi and rizon and quakenet just reconnected :( :( :(04:00
cyberangerbinarymutant: well, your neck of the woods perhaps, your modem perhaps04:05
cyberangerplenty of options including the the isp04:06
cyberangerbinarymutant: I had issues until a server & using ssh, ssh was a bit more tolerant with connection loss, as long as it was short term04:07
binarymutantno clue, freenode&oftc stayed up, rizon&quakenet reconnected04:07
binarymutantit's mindboggling now04:07
binarymutant<-- had no clue roguelikes were so popular with windows developers. I'm having a hard time finding native linux RLs04:10
binarymutantit's mindboggling too04:10
cyberangerbinarymutant: traceroute the actual servers your connected to04:13
cyberangerperhaps a common path, not shared by the other two04:13
binarymutant14 hops04:13
binarymutantto google.com04:14
cyberangerhow about to the rizon and quakenet server your connected to, and the freenode & oftc servers04:15
cyberangerand that 14 to atlanta is right04:15
cyberangeratlanta google04:15
binarymutantya04:15
binarymutantatlanta comcast04:16
binarymutantthen to google maybe, it's an ip04:16
binarymutantfirst time using mtr, it's awesome. waay cooler than traceroute04:17
cyberangerthat'd most likely be the meet-me room in the same DC04:18
binarymutanthttp://www.handlewithlinux.com/linux-washing-cooking LOL04:19
cyberangerI use tcptraceroute04:19
binarymutantis it curses candy?04:21
binarymutantmtr blinks and looks real sleek in my terminal04:21
binarymutant<3 ncurses04:22
binarymutanttcptraceroute looks like normal traceroute04:24
cyberangerbinarymutant: except it's what it does04:25
binarymutantwho does ubuntu-tennessee.org?04:30
cyberangerICMP being meddled with despite it's usefulness, vs tcp with it's inherent design for it04:30
cyberangerbinarymutant: domain or ...?04:30
binarymutantthe site04:31
binarymutantnetricious?04:32
binarymutant@gmail.com04:36
meetingologybinarymutant: Error: "gmail.com" is not a valid command.04:36
binarymutant...04:36
binarymutantshutty bot04:36
binarymutanthalo09@gmail.com ?04:36
binarymutantI can't figure it out by a whois lookup04:39
binarymutantcyberanger: you own the domain04:43
cyberangerbinarymutant: the wordpress is on Svpernova09's server04:48
binarymutantwe should get stuff syndicated on it, and have some irc bots do stuff with it too04:49
binarymutantseems pretty static04:49
cyberangerwhois is a domain tool, and I'm not in the results04:51
cyberangerthat I agree with, but not my area atm04:52
Unit193binarymutant: Wouldn't be hard, it's called RSS feeds ;)05:29
cyberangerI know, not my call05:31
Unit193Well, you've seen the ones that didn't work :P05:32
cyberangerUnit193: say what?05:32
Unit193You have a ping :D05:33
cyberangeryep, that I do05:35
cyberangerin another channel05:35
cyberangerand what do you mean I've seen ones that didn't work?05:36
Unit193I explained how mine failed that one time. Warehouse 13 it was05:36
cyberangeroh yeah, that's right05:38
cyberangerUnit193: what caused that failure anyhow06:12
Unit193Best I could tell, was just being lame :P06:12
cyberangerouch06:15
Unit193Seems wrst checks the forum07:02
wrstUnit193: i don't check it much just happened to think about it12:20
xpistos_Hey err body14:28
=== electricus_ is now known as electricus
wrsthowdy electricus17:52
wrstand xpistos_18:12
electricushello wrst18:38
electricusanybody in here ever use rsync much?18:39
electricusi was wondering if it's possible to rsyn a live running linux system onto a new one to clone it18:39
wrstelectricus: cyberanger will be the man on that18:40
wrstunless... Unit193 you do any of that ^^^ ?18:40
electricusa new server/new disks specifically - rsync over the network18:40
Unit193I haven't even gotten to this channel for reading up yet (PM now)18:42
Unit193Afaik, not exactly, but I haven't looked into that. I have used clonezilla a few times and that worked out well18:46
electricusok.. i might just use clonezilla too, just wondering if I could copy over the old server files while it's online18:48
electricusit's a postgre db too.. which may be a bit of a problem with that too18:49
binarymutantwhy wouldn't you be able to copy files from a running site?18:58
electricusbinarymutant: i've never done an entire file system of the entire / dir live19:03
electricusbefore i waste time attempting it, just wondering if anyone has ever tried that.  can't seem to find the right doc on google19:04
binarymutantI don't see any problems you'll run into unless you change hardware19:06
binarymutantand if you change hardware it's trivial to fix19:06
binarymutantI found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/migrating-a-live-filesystem-with-rsync-510069/19:07
xpistos_electricus: I use rsync all the time19:26
electricusrsync sounds great, but I'm a little worried that it will delete my files if one side has no files instead of copying the side with the files19:27
electricusthat make sense xpistos_19:27
electricusseveral times when syncing things anyway.. if you just tell it to sync with something empty, it will just wipe out both19:27
xpistos_? that should be happening. what tags are you use?19:28
xpistos_ing19:28
xpistos_using19:28
electricusyou mean that 'should not' be happening?19:29
electricusok.. if you do not specifiy any special arguments, then it shouldn't delete anything?  can you give me an example of how do you typically use it xpistos_?19:30
electricusrsync /source /destination ?19:31
xpistos_yep19:31
xpistos_so I usually us rsync -avHK /source/ desitination19:31
electricus"rsync -rv /source /destination" is probably what i'd do19:32
electricus-a option preserves file permissions and date attirbutes?19:33
xpistos_.r is usually redundant19:33
xpistos_yes -a is archive19:33
xpistos_archive, verbose and maintain hard and sim links19:34
electricusand the HK is for hard links and symlinks19:34
electricusok19:34
xpistos_but yours should not be deleteing19:34
xpistos_and just fyi rsync can also do "rsync /source /source /source /destination"19:35
xpistos_for mutliple locales19:35
xpistos_but one dest the last one19:35
xpistos_what is the comand with source and dest that you typed in that deleted your stuff19:35
=== xpistos_ is now known as Xpisots
Xpisotsdamn19:36
=== Xpisots is now known as Xpistos
Xpistosbetter19:36
Xpistoswoops caps19:36
=== Xpistos is now known as xpistos
xpistosok19:36
xpistosfirst one of you to say troll gets a verbal penalty shot19:36
electricusi didn't use it yet.. just needing a little assurance19:36
binarymutant<- lost, but ok19:37
xpistosok so what I would do to make sure then is cp the folder as a different name19:37
xpistosthen rsync it to a new target folder in the same directory19:37
xpistosso like mkdir test19:38
electricusya.. back up first is good advice.  i'll test it out and see what happens.  thanks xpistos19:38
xpistoscp folder folderb19:38
xpistosrsync /folderb /test/19:38
xpistoswait19:39
xpistossorry19:39
xpistosrsync /folderb /test19:39
xpistoswell truthfully I guess it would matter for the dest but still19:39
binarymutantif the folder/file isn't on the other machine wouldn't rsync create it?19:51
binarymutant<-- sticks with `dd` for backup20:00
cyberangercbs really needs to fix their player20:09
cyberangerI've spend more time trying to deal with it than actually watching my show20:09
wrstcyberanger: they probably aren't expecting people to watch it on the command line20:22
wrst:P20:22
binarymutant\me cough downloadit20:23
binarymutantcbs-so I'm guessing tbbt?20:24
binarymutantthe room freezes everytime I say something... must be a connection issue :P20:30
* Unit193 doesn't ever use the CBS site20:34
cyberangercbs.com20:43
binarymutanttempting http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2011/10/12/upcoming-ruby-programming-competitions-with-matz---grand-prize---1000000-jpy/20:49
Juzzyoh good21:12
Juzzyhotel and airfare paid!21:12
Juzzyheaven forbid you have to pay for your own air for a 1 million yen prize heh21:12
binarymutant:D21:12
Juzzybtw, 1 mil yen is less than $13k usd21:13
Juzzyya, i guess a $1500 air ticket and $250 hotel might be needed for only $13k21:14
binarymutantusd has gone down in value.21:29
binarymutantused to be 1mill Y = 100k usd21:29
binarymutant<- product of the 90s21:29
cyberangerbinarymutant: the yen has dropped too21:37
binarymutantoh yeah, typhoons and such21:39
binarymutantbut they bounced back like always21:39
binarymutantnuclear meltdown drop it?21:39
Unit193wrst: Does there happen to ba a page of OpenLP with actually updated screenshots/22:14
Unit193s/\//?/g22:14
binarymutanterror in the regex I think22:14
binarymutantmethinks22:15
Unit193Yep, but never had to do it like that ;P22:16
binarymutants/\?/g22:18
binarymutantwait22:18
binarymutants/\//\?/g22:19
binarymutantsheesh22:19
binarymutantsed blows :P22:19
Unit193sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unknown option to `s'22:20
binarymutantmethinks I need a real $lang not some crusty tool from the 70's22:21
Unit193sed is handy though, as is rename22:25
binarymutants/\/\\?/g22:26
* binarymutant loads gun, mindblown22:26
Unit193Doesn't work in my sed :P22:27
binarymutant!! http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/danielmiessler/CAIcBwkwgnqChwivJrphIExbyyDndHqkiEjqhEyjbaxHFhyeJFfqlCikuedk/media_http30mediatumb_zwHul.jpg.scaled500.jpg22:28
wrsti don't know Unit193?22:28
Unit193You know Unit19322:28
Unit193Anyway, you seemed to be the person that would know best22:29
binarymutantomg, sed is making me crazy now22:34
binarymutant"\?" should be "?" in my mind22:35
Unit193Question mark isn't the problem22:53
binarymutant\/   ?22:57
binarymutant"\/"  is "/"22:57
wrstUnit193: haven't looked at the page in a couple days22:58
binarymutant"/\/, /?"22:58
binarymutant(\/,\?)22:58
binarymutantUnit193: what was the prob?22:59
Unit193Closed that screen window :P22:59
Unit193wrst: Alright, was just asking because current seem to be from 08 :P23:00
binarymutantUnit193: http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/000/578/1234931504682.jpg23:00
Unit193Haha! This is driving you bonkers :D23:01
binarymutantyees23:01

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