[00:04]  * cyberanger wants to embargo every company who assisted in the NSA illegal wiretapping scandel
[00:05] <cyberanger> problem is the same as boycotting the PRC in support of the tibetians,they make everything, including the free tibet stickers
[00:09] <cyberanger> wb cosmicpizza
[00:09] <cyberanger> lol whoops
[00:09] <cyberanger> wb chris4585
[00:14] <cyberanger> wb chris4585
[00:14] <binarymutant> wb chris4585
[00:15] <chris4585> thanks
[00:29] <chris4585> lol @ icq, apparently I'm a bot/drone
[00:29] <wrst> binarymutant: yep that's dsl
[00:29] <chris4585> xchat is strange at times... connects here yet not any of my other channels
[00:41] <wrst> Unit193: ok i have headphones hooked up to that machine and it creeped me out when i went in the room :)
[00:42] <cyberanger> wrst: why, that loud?
[00:43] <wrst> it wasn't loud it was like a whisper
[00:43] <Unit193> Nice...
[00:43] <Unit193> I had one that really got me :P
[00:43] <cyberanger> wrst: lol sweet
[00:44] <wrst> yeah only thing i'm about pegged out on memory usage little feller just has 256MB
[00:45] <cyberanger> wrst: swap?
[00:46] <wrst> its all free set up 500M of swap
[00:46] <wrst> only a 10GB hard drive :)
[00:46] <wrst> i'm going to try to see what type of memory it uses, if its something like ddr laptopish stuff i might be able to expand it but I don't recall it being "servicable"
[01:01] <cyberanger> wrst: is it using it
[01:04] <wrst> free -m cyberanger tells me that 165MB is cached, what does that mean?
[01:05] <cyberanger> say what
[01:05] <binarymutant> wow don't ever chmod /etc/sudoers
[01:05] <binarymutant> that was a hassle
[01:05] <wrst> found it cyberanger
[01:05]  * wrst should google first!
[01:06] <cyberanger> binarymutant: lol oh boy
[01:07] <binarymutant> ya
[01:07] <binarymutant> fixed it, but had to reboot into recovery mode root shell blah blah
[01:07] <binarymutant> what a mess
[01:07] <wrst> cyberanger: so it was cached not exactly sure what that means but i dropped it and I'm just using 33MB
[01:07] <cyberanger> yep
[01:07] <wrst> *yet
[01:08] <cyberanger> since by doing that tyou damaged sudo
[01:08] <cyberanger> wrst: in use, being utilized
[01:08] <binarymutant> it really doesn't make sense to me that root can't change a file
[01:08] <binarymutant> err fakeroot*
[01:08] <wrst> yes i guess cached is there for something to make something faster but if needed it gets uncached and used
[01:09] <cyberanger> binarymutant: that file, and it's called fakeroot for a reason anyhow
[01:10] <binarymutant> brb
[01:10] <binarymutant> sweet, on a server now so I shouldn't be dropped anymore
[01:11] <wrst> cool binarymutant what type of server?
[01:11] <binarymutant> virtual :D
[01:11] <binarymutant> ubuntu
[01:11]  * cyberanger shines his kicking boots preparing to test that theroy
[01:11] <binarymutant> ** network dropped **
[01:12]  * cyberanger realizes these aren't his kicking boots
[01:12] <binarymutant> those are tap dancing shoes
[01:13] <cyberanger> worse, crocks,
[01:13] <binarymutant> lols
[01:15] <cyberanger> ow owie owie owwww
[01:19] <binarymutant> okay once more and I'll be set
[01:21] <cyberanger> set?
[01:21] <binarymutant> go
[01:22] <binarymutant> stoopid scripts are working though, missing deps
[01:23] <binarymutant> done
[01:27] <binarymutant> I wonder if irssi can rearrange the tabs ...
[01:37] <binarymutant> what was that irc bouncer called that pace_t_zulu uses?
[01:37] <binarymutant> xvc?
[01:38] <binarymutant> znc
[01:38] <Unit193> ^^
[01:38] <cyberanger> binarymutant: tabs, you mean windows, and yes it can
[01:39] <binarymutant> cyberanger: got it
[01:39] <binarymutant> cyberanger: /window move left|right
[01:40] <cyberanger> yep
[01:40] <cyberanger> binarymutant: and it's znc
[01:41] <binarymutant> I'm not sure about znc yet... I do like the idea of not having my hostname show
[01:41] <binarymutant> or mask, or whatever it's called
[01:41] <wrst> binarymutant: you don't have to have a znc for that
[01:42] <binarymutant> wrst: what else can I do for that?
[01:42] <Unit193> Take a stroll into #freenode and ask for a cloak (and dagger)
[01:42] <wrst> binarymutant: ^^^ they will fix you up
[01:42] <cyberanger> and that's not why he suggested it, it's an irc proxy of sorts
[01:43] <cyberanger> persistant connection, then your client connects to it like it's the irc server
[01:43] <cyberanger> tada
[01:45] <binarymutant> the proxy that znc uses is better than a cloak since I wouldn't have to ask every server I connect to
[01:47] <cyberanger> znc is the proxy
[01:47] <cyberanger> but yes
[02:20] <binarymu1ant> znc, too complicated
[02:24] <wrst> binarymutant: i haven't explored znc
[02:25] <binarymutant> too complicated for just a quick setup&go
[02:25] <wrst> yeah kinda expected that i may play with it on my new found server :)
[02:26] <binarymutant> I was ran into problems logging into it
[02:26] <binarymutant> ohwell, screen works just fine
[02:27] <wrst> the being connected and using any client or what not is appealing
[02:27] <binarymutant> yes if your using windows or multiple clients
[02:28] <binarymutant> not really for me
[02:29] <wrst> yeah i'm on windows, but i have quassel client for windows or you can always use putty and irssi/weechat
[02:29] <binarymutant> I like the latter
[02:29] <binarymutant> much simpler
[02:30] <wrst> yes
[02:38] <wrst> binarymutant: wasn't too bad :)
[02:38] <wrst> hmm i named it the wrong dumb thing!
[02:39] <wrst> that took a while to join
[02:47] <wrst> but the web interface is pretty neat
[02:47] <binarymutant> wrst: your on it now?
[02:48] <wrst> yeah but can't get a client to connect :)
[02:48] <binarymutant> wompwomp
[02:48] <binarymutant> 127.0.0.1 whateverport
[02:49] <wrst> yeah but was asking user/pass blah or was on irssi i will stick with quassel for now
[02:49] <binarymutant> ya! That's the problem I had
[02:49] <wrst> but guess i could have vnc and have quassel core linked to it
[02:50] <wrst> znc
[02:50] <wrst> but seems like much ado and little to gain for me
[02:50] <binarymutant> too complicated
[02:51] <wrst> this is pretty amazing only using 38 MB of RAM
[02:51] <binarymutant> your computer?
[02:52] <wrst> oh goodness no telling what my laptop is using but that little thing i got working last night
[02:52] <cyberanger> fellas, is the username in the config perhaps
[02:52] <binarymutant> wowza, that "little thing" is super small
[02:53] <wrst> binarymutant: http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/webmin.png
[02:54] <wrst> add a few MB when i started pianobar
[02:54] <binarymutant> oooh
[02:55] <binarymutant> 379mb here :/
[02:57] <binarymutant> I wonder why my swap is always 0mb
[02:58] <wrst> cyberanger, binarymutant here is that machine I have been messing with:http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/computer.jpg
[02:58] <binarymutant> ahh it's literally small
[02:58] <binarymutant> lol
[02:58] <wrst> yes very much so :)
[02:59] <binarymutant> does it even have a fan?
[02:59] <wrst> i am practicing for a raspberry pi
[02:59] <wrst> no fan
[02:59] <binarymutant> wow
[02:59] <wrst> no place for air flow
[02:59] <binarymutant> like an appliance
[02:59] <wrst> yes
[02:59] <binarymutant> lol it's smaller than my router
[03:00] <wrst> than mine also :)
[03:01] <binarymutant> so that's the ppc?
[03:01] <wrst> no its the via chip
[03:01] <wrst> the ppc is an old macbook
[03:01] <binarymutant> ah
[03:02] <wrst> week off i have more piddling time
[03:07] <Unit193> That's a nice little thing...
[03:08] <wrst> Unit193: i'm liking it, not going to win any speed races but... has its place
[03:10] <Unit193> Faster than my computer with full desktop... Mind if I ask price?
[03:11] <wrst> Unit193: i think i gave linuxman410 30 bucks or something for it
[03:12] <Unit193> Nice, that's just awesome...
[03:13] <wrst> yeah he couldn't get anything to work on it, i played with it about a year ago and didn't either then finally noticed the ide drive and thought jumpers!
[03:16] <cyberanger> I'd say that's smaller than my router, but one of my router is about that size
[03:16] <cyberanger> and the other two are towers and 2u servers (out of order currently)
[03:19] <wrst> cyberanger: my big thing is what to do with this little jewel :)
[03:20]  * Unit193 could think of a few things...
[03:20] <wrst> Unit193: i can too just not for sure which ones
[03:21] <wrst> i have a laser printer that i would like to have in a remote location but seems a little too much just for a print server
[03:22]  * Unit193 wonders when the LoCo members are going to start personal blogs
[03:23] <cyberanger> Unit193: going to?
[03:23] <Unit193> You have the Swissknife one, but not sure that counts :D
[03:24] <cyberanger> wrst: got a list of 100 ideas, and that's the short list
[03:24] <wrst> ha ha
[03:25] <cyberanger> Unit193: well it doesn't, but all others aren't internet facing
[03:25] <Unit193> cyberanger: Makes sense. I setup wordpress for the fun of it then added a post
[03:25] <Unit193> (Same idea, not public)
[03:27] <binarymutant> we should setup blog
[03:27] <binarymutant> blogs*
[03:28] <binarymutant> and have ubuntu-tennessee.org syndicate them
[03:34] <wrst> Unit193: i'm liking this never thought i would be streaming music on a "server"
[03:36] <Unit193> wrst: It's Pandora, it's awesome! Did you get remote audio setup too?
[03:38] <wrst> no haven't done that, hmm how big of a deal is that?
[03:39] <Unit193> Not done it yet, but I have a page or two getting me setup
[03:39] <cyberanger> wrst: big of a deal or a big of a mess/pain/pain in the duff/ars*/@$$
[03:40] <wrst> think i will pass then :)
[03:40] <binarymutant> lirc should be easy
[03:40] <binarymutant> or use a laptop/mobile device and ssh as a remote :D
[03:41] <Unit193> But LOIC is more fun ;)
[03:42] <cyberanger> binarymutant: lirc is easy
[03:42] <binarymutant> :~$ wtf loic\n Gee... I don't know what loic means...
[03:42] <cyberanger> wrst: it's a minor deal, a medium pain
[03:42] <cyberanger> and it can be worth the pain, but not always
[03:43] <wrst> cyberanger: what tool do you use to do it?
[03:46] <binarymutant> low orbit ion cannon
[03:46] <binarymutant> !
[03:48] <wrst> ha ha well off to bed I go have a good night everyone
[03:48] <binarymutant> night wrst
[03:48] <Unit193> You got it :P
[03:48] <Unit193> And good night (even though you're already gone)
[03:49] <wrst> ha Unit193 caught it before I left, goodnight
[03:51] <cyberanger> wrst: pulseaudio or portaudio
[03:51] <cyberanger> like I said, I dislike pulse for regular use, this it was meant for however
[03:52] <cyberanger> binarymutant: low orbit limits the firing time over an area, I use a high orbit ion cannon with radar absorbant material & a IR reducing paint
[03:52] <cyberanger> stealth ion cannon ;-)
[03:54] <binarymutant> cyberanger: it's a ddos tool
[03:54] <binarymutant> 4chan approved apparently
[03:54] <binarymutant> I mean, anon approved. Same thing.
[03:54] <cyberanger> haha
[03:55] <cyberanger> yeah, but I like my version better
[03:55] <binarymutant> :D
[04:00] <binarymutant> wtf, it has to be charter. No longer on wifi and rizon and quakenet just reconnected :( :( :(
[04:05] <cyberanger> binarymutant: well, your neck of the woods perhaps, your modem perhaps
[04:06] <cyberanger> plenty of options including the the isp
[04:07] <cyberanger> binarymutant: I had issues until a server & using ssh, ssh was a bit more tolerant with connection loss, as long as it was short term
[04:07] <binarymutant> no clue, freenode&oftc stayed up, rizon&quakenet reconnected
[04:07] <binarymutant> it's mindboggling now
[04:10] <binarymutant> <-- had no clue roguelikes were so popular with windows developers. I'm having a hard time finding native linux RLs
[04:10] <binarymutant> it's mindboggling too
[04:13] <cyberanger> binarymutant: traceroute the actual servers your connected to
[04:13] <cyberanger> perhaps a common path, not shared by the other two
[04:13] <binarymutant> 14 hops
[04:14] <binarymutant> to google.com
[04:15] <cyberanger> how about to the rizon and quakenet server your connected to, and the freenode & oftc servers
[04:15] <cyberanger> and that 14 to atlanta is right
[04:15] <cyberanger> atlanta google
[04:15] <binarymutant> ya
[04:16] <binarymutant> atlanta comcast
[04:16] <binarymutant> then to google maybe, it's an ip
[04:17] <binarymutant> first time using mtr, it's awesome. waay cooler than traceroute
[04:18] <cyberanger> that'd most likely be the meet-me room in the same DC
[04:19] <binarymutant> http://www.handlewithlinux.com/linux-washing-cooking LOL
[04:19] <cyberanger> I use tcptraceroute
[04:21] <binarymutant> is it curses candy?
[04:21] <binarymutant> mtr blinks and looks real sleek in my terminal
[04:22] <binarymutant> <3 ncurses
[04:24] <binarymutant> tcptraceroute looks like normal traceroute
[04:25] <cyberanger> binarymutant: except it's what it does
[04:30] <binarymutant> who does ubuntu-tennessee.org?
[04:30] <cyberanger> ICMP being meddled with despite it's usefulness, vs tcp with it's inherent design for it
[04:30] <cyberanger> binarymutant: domain or ...?
[04:31] <binarymutant> the site
[04:32] <binarymutant> netricious?
[04:36] <binarymutant> @gmail.com
[04:36] <meetingology> binarymutant: Error: "gmail.com" is not a valid command.
[04:36] <binarymutant> ...
[04:36] <binarymutant> shutty bot
[04:36] <binarymutant> halo09@gmail.com ?
[04:39] <binarymutant> I can't figure it out by a whois lookup
[04:43] <binarymutant> cyberanger: you own the domain
[04:48] <cyberanger> binarymutant: the wordpress is on Svpernova09's server
[04:49] <binarymutant> we should get stuff syndicated on it, and have some irc bots do stuff with it too
[04:49] <binarymutant> seems pretty static
[04:51] <cyberanger> whois is a domain tool, and I'm not in the results
[04:52] <cyberanger> that I agree with, but not my area atm
[05:29] <Unit193> binarymutant: Wouldn't be hard, it's called RSS feeds ;)
[05:31] <cyberanger> I know, not my call
[05:32] <Unit193> Well, you've seen the ones that didn't work :P
[05:32] <cyberanger> Unit193: say what?
[05:33] <Unit193> You have a ping :D
[05:35] <cyberanger> yep, that I do
[05:35] <cyberanger> in another channel
[05:36] <cyberanger> and what do you mean I've seen ones that didn't work?
[05:36] <Unit193> I explained how mine failed that one time. Warehouse 13 it was
[05:38] <cyberanger> oh yeah, that's right
[06:12] <cyberanger> Unit193: what caused that failure anyhow
[06:12] <Unit193> Best I could tell, was just being lame :P
[06:15] <cyberanger> ouch
[07:02] <Unit193> Seems wrst checks the forum
[12:20] <wrst> Unit193: i don't check it much just happened to think about it
[14:28] <xpistos_> Hey err body
[17:52] <wrst> howdy electricus
[18:12] <wrst> and xpistos_
[18:38] <electricus> hello wrst
[18:39] <electricus> anybody in here ever use rsync much?
[18:39] <electricus> i was wondering if it's possible to rsyn a live running linux system onto a new one to clone it
[18:40] <wrst> electricus: cyberanger will be the man on that
[18:40] <wrst> unless... Unit193 you do any of that ^^^ ?
[18:40] <electricus> a new server/new disks specifically - rsync over the network
[18:42] <Unit193> I haven't even gotten to this channel for reading up yet (PM now)
[18:46] <Unit193> Afaik, not exactly, but I haven't looked into that. I have used clonezilla a few times and that worked out well
[18:48] <electricus> ok.. i might just use clonezilla too, just wondering if I could copy over the old server files while it's online
[18:49] <electricus> it's a postgre db too.. which may be a bit of a problem with that too
[18:58] <binarymutant> why wouldn't you be able to copy files from a running site?
[19:03] <electricus> binarymutant: i've never done an entire file system of the entire / dir live
[19:04] <electricus> before i waste time attempting it, just wondering if anyone has ever tried that.  can't seem to find the right doc on google
[19:06] <binarymutant> I don't see any problems you'll run into unless you change hardware
[19:06] <binarymutant> and if you change hardware it's trivial to fix
[19:07] <binarymutant> I found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/migrating-a-live-filesystem-with-rsync-510069/
[19:26] <xpistos_> electricus: I use rsync all the time
[19:27] <electricus> rsync sounds great, but I'm a little worried that it will delete my files if one side has no files instead of copying the side with the files
[19:27] <electricus> that make sense xpistos_
[19:27] <electricus> several times when syncing things anyway.. if you just tell it to sync with something empty, it will just wipe out both
[19:28] <xpistos_> ? that should be happening. what tags are you use?
[19:28] <xpistos_> ing
[19:28] <xpistos_> using
[19:29] <electricus> you mean that 'should not' be happening?
[19:30] <electricus> ok.. if you do not specifiy any special arguments, then it shouldn't delete anything?  can you give me an example of how do you typically use it xpistos_?
[19:31] <electricus> rsync /source /destination ?
[19:31] <xpistos_> yep
[19:31] <xpistos_> so I usually us rsync -avHK /source/ desitination
[19:32] <electricus> "rsync -rv /source /destination" is probably what i'd do
[19:33] <electricus> -a option preserves file permissions and date attirbutes?
[19:33] <xpistos_> .r is usually redundant
[19:33] <xpistos_> yes -a is archive
[19:34] <xpistos_> archive, verbose and maintain hard and sim links
[19:34] <electricus> and the HK is for hard links and symlinks
[19:34] <electricus> ok
[19:34] <xpistos_> but yours should not be deleteing
[19:35] <xpistos_> and just fyi rsync can also do "rsync /source /source /source /destination"
[19:35] <xpistos_> for mutliple locales
[19:35] <xpistos_> but one dest the last one
[19:35] <xpistos_> what is the comand with source and dest that you typed in that deleted your stuff
[19:36] <Xpisots> damn
[19:36] <Xpistos> better
[19:36] <Xpistos> woops caps
[19:36] <xpistos> ok
[19:36] <xpistos> first one of you to say troll gets a verbal penalty shot
[19:36] <electricus> i didn't use it yet.. just needing a little assurance
[19:37] <binarymutant> <- lost, but ok
[19:37] <xpistos> ok so what I would do to make sure then is cp the folder as a different name
[19:37] <xpistos> then rsync it to a new target folder in the same directory
[19:38] <xpistos> so like mkdir test
[19:38] <electricus> ya.. back up first is good advice.  i'll test it out and see what happens.  thanks xpistos
[19:38] <xpistos> cp folder folderb
[19:38] <xpistos> rsync /folderb /test/
[19:39] <xpistos> wait
[19:39] <xpistos> sorry
[19:39] <xpistos> rsync /folderb /test
[19:39] <xpistos> well truthfully I guess it would matter for the dest but still
[19:51] <binarymutant> if the folder/file isn't on the other machine wouldn't rsync create it?
[20:00] <binarymutant> <-- sticks with `dd` for backup
[20:09] <cyberanger> cbs really needs to fix their player
[20:09] <cyberanger> I've spend more time trying to deal with it than actually watching my show
[20:22] <wrst> cyberanger: they probably aren't expecting people to watch it on the command line
[20:22] <wrst> :P
[20:23] <binarymutant> \me cough downloadit
[20:24] <binarymutant> cbs-so I'm guessing tbbt?
[20:30] <binarymutant> the room freezes everytime I say something... must be a connection issue :P
[20:34]  * Unit193 doesn't ever use the CBS site
[20:43] <cyberanger> cbs.com
[20:49] <binarymutant> tempting http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2011/10/12/upcoming-ruby-programming-competitions-with-matz---grand-prize---1000000-jpy/
[21:12] <Juzzy> oh good
[21:12] <Juzzy> hotel and airfare paid!
[21:12] <Juzzy> heaven forbid you have to pay for your own air for a 1 million yen prize heh
[21:12] <binarymutant> :D
[21:13] <Juzzy> btw, 1 mil yen is less than $13k usd
[21:14] <Juzzy> ya, i guess a $1500 air ticket and $250 hotel might be needed for only $13k
[21:29] <binarymutant> usd has gone down in value.
[21:29] <binarymutant> used to be 1mill Y = 100k usd
[21:29] <binarymutant> <- product of the 90s
[21:37] <cyberanger> binarymutant: the yen has dropped too
[21:39] <binarymutant> oh yeah, typhoons and such
[21:39] <binarymutant> but they bounced back like always
[21:39] <binarymutant> nuclear meltdown drop it?
[22:14] <Unit193> wrst: Does there happen to ba a page of OpenLP with actually updated screenshots/
[22:14] <Unit193> s/\//?/g
[22:14] <binarymutant> error in the regex I think
[22:15] <binarymutant> methinks
[22:16] <Unit193> Yep, but never had to do it like that ;P
[22:18] <binarymutant> s/\?/g
[22:18] <binarymutant> wait
[22:19] <binarymutant> s/\//\?/g
[22:19] <binarymutant> sheesh
[22:19] <binarymutant> sed blows :P
[22:20] <Unit193> sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unknown option to `s'
[22:21] <binarymutant> methinks I need a real $lang not some crusty tool from the 70's
[22:25] <Unit193> sed is handy though, as is rename
[22:26] <binarymutant> s/\/\\?/g
[22:26]  * binarymutant loads gun, mindblown
[22:27] <Unit193> Doesn't work in my sed :P
[22:28] <binarymutant> !! http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/danielmiessler/CAIcBwkwgnqChwivJrphIExbyyDndHqkiEjqhEyjbaxHFhyeJFfqlCikuedk/media_http30mediatumb_zwHul.jpg.scaled500.jpg
[22:28] <wrst> i don't know Unit193?
[22:28] <Unit193> You know Unit193
[22:29] <Unit193> Anyway, you seemed to be the person that would know best
[22:34] <binarymutant> omg, sed is making me crazy now
[22:35] <binarymutant> "\?" should be "?" in my mind
[22:53] <Unit193> Question mark isn't the problem
[22:57] <binarymutant> \/   ?
[22:57] <binarymutant> "\/"  is "/"
[22:58] <wrst> Unit193: haven't looked at the page in a couple days
[22:58] <binarymutant> "/\/, /?"
[22:58] <binarymutant> (\/,\?)
[22:59] <binarymutant> Unit193: what was the prob?
[22:59] <Unit193> Closed that screen window :P
[23:00] <Unit193> wrst: Alright, was just asking because current seem to be from 08 :P
[23:00] <binarymutant> Unit193: http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/000/578/1234931504682.jpg
[23:01] <Unit193> Haha! This is driving you bonkers :D
[23:01] <binarymutant> yees