[00:04] * cyberanger wants to embargo every company who assisted in the NSA illegal wiretapping scandel [00:05] problem is the same as boycotting the PRC in support of the tibetians,they make everything, including the free tibet stickers [00:09] wb cosmicpizza [00:09] lol whoops [00:09] wb chris4585 [00:14] wb chris4585 [00:14] wb chris4585 [00:15] thanks [00:29] lol @ icq, apparently I'm a bot/drone [00:29] binarymutant: yep that's dsl [00:29] xchat is strange at times... connects here yet not any of my other channels [00:41] Unit193: ok i have headphones hooked up to that machine and it creeped me out when i went in the room :) [00:42] wrst: why, that loud? [00:43] it wasn't loud it was like a whisper [00:43] Nice... [00:43] I had one that really got me :P [00:43] wrst: lol sweet [00:44] yeah only thing i'm about pegged out on memory usage little feller just has 256MB [00:45] wrst: swap? [00:46] its all free set up 500M of swap [00:46] only a 10GB hard drive :) [00:46] i'm going to try to see what type of memory it uses, if its something like ddr laptopish stuff i might be able to expand it but I don't recall it being "servicable" [01:01] wrst: is it using it [01:04] free -m cyberanger tells me that 165MB is cached, what does that mean? [01:05] say what [01:05] wow don't ever chmod /etc/sudoers [01:05] that was a hassle [01:05] found it cyberanger [01:05] * wrst should google first! [01:06] binarymutant: lol oh boy [01:07] ya [01:07] fixed it, but had to reboot into recovery mode root shell blah blah [01:07] what a mess [01:07] cyberanger: so it was cached not exactly sure what that means but i dropped it and I'm just using 33MB [01:07] yep [01:07] *yet [01:08] since by doing that tyou damaged sudo [01:08] wrst: in use, being utilized [01:08] it really doesn't make sense to me that root can't change a file [01:08] err fakeroot* [01:08] yes i guess cached is there for something to make something faster but if needed it gets uncached and used [01:09] binarymutant: that file, and it's called fakeroot for a reason anyhow [01:10] brb [01:10] sweet, on a server now so I shouldn't be dropped anymore [01:11] cool binarymutant what type of server? [01:11] virtual :D [01:11] ubuntu [01:11] * cyberanger shines his kicking boots preparing to test that theroy [01:11] ** network dropped ** [01:12] * cyberanger realizes these aren't his kicking boots [01:12] those are tap dancing shoes [01:13] worse, crocks, [01:13] lols [01:15] ow owie owie owwww [01:19] okay once more and I'll be set [01:21] set? [01:21] go [01:22] stoopid scripts are working though, missing deps [01:23] done [01:27] I wonder if irssi can rearrange the tabs ... [01:37] what was that irc bouncer called that pace_t_zulu uses? [01:37] xvc? [01:38] znc [01:38] ^^ [01:38] binarymutant: tabs, you mean windows, and yes it can [01:39] cyberanger: got it [01:39] cyberanger: /window move left|right [01:40] yep [01:40] binarymutant: and it's znc [01:41] I'm not sure about znc yet... I do like the idea of not having my hostname show [01:41] or mask, or whatever it's called [01:41] binarymutant: you don't have to have a znc for that [01:42] wrst: what else can I do for that? [01:42] Take a stroll into #freenode and ask for a cloak (and dagger) [01:42] binarymutant: ^^^ they will fix you up [01:42] and that's not why he suggested it, it's an irc proxy of sorts [01:43] persistant connection, then your client connects to it like it's the irc server [01:43] tada [01:45] the proxy that znc uses is better than a cloak since I wouldn't have to ask every server I connect to [01:47] znc is the proxy [01:47] but yes [02:20] znc, too complicated === binarymu1ant is now known as binarymutant [02:24] binarymutant: i haven't explored znc [02:25] too complicated for just a quick setup&go [02:25] yeah kinda expected that i may play with it on my new found server :) [02:26] I was ran into problems logging into it [02:26] ohwell, screen works just fine [02:27] the being connected and using any client or what not is appealing [02:27] yes if your using windows or multiple clients [02:28] not really for me [02:29] yeah i'm on windows, but i have quassel client for windows or you can always use putty and irssi/weechat [02:29] I like the latter [02:29] much simpler [02:30] yes [02:38] binarymutant: wasn't too bad :) [02:38] hmm i named it the wrong dumb thing! [02:39] that took a while to join [02:47] but the web interface is pretty neat [02:47] wrst: your on it now? [02:48] yeah but can't get a client to connect :) [02:48] wompwomp [02:48] 127.0.0.1 whateverport [02:49] yeah but was asking user/pass blah or was on irssi i will stick with quassel for now [02:49] ya! That's the problem I had [02:49] but guess i could have vnc and have quassel core linked to it [02:50] znc [02:50] but seems like much ado and little to gain for me [02:50] too complicated [02:51] this is pretty amazing only using 38 MB of RAM [02:51] your computer? [02:52] oh goodness no telling what my laptop is using but that little thing i got working last night [02:52] fellas, is the username in the config perhaps [02:52] wowza, that "little thing" is super small [02:53] binarymutant: http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/webmin.png [02:54] add a few MB when i started pianobar [02:54] oooh [02:55] 379mb here :/ [02:57] I wonder why my swap is always 0mb [02:58] cyberanger, binarymutant here is that machine I have been messing with:http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/computer.jpg [02:58] ahh it's literally small [02:58] lol [02:58] yes very much so :) [02:59] does it even have a fan? [02:59] i am practicing for a raspberry pi [02:59] no fan [02:59] wow [02:59] no place for air flow [02:59] like an appliance [02:59] yes [02:59] lol it's smaller than my router [03:00] than mine also :) [03:01] so that's the ppc? [03:01] no its the via chip [03:01] the ppc is an old macbook [03:01] ah [03:02] week off i have more piddling time [03:07] That's a nice little thing... [03:08] Unit193: i'm liking it, not going to win any speed races but... has its place [03:10] Faster than my computer with full desktop... Mind if I ask price? [03:11] Unit193: i think i gave linuxman410 30 bucks or something for it [03:12] Nice, that's just awesome... [03:13] yeah he couldn't get anything to work on it, i played with it about a year ago and didn't either then finally noticed the ide drive and thought jumpers! [03:16] I'd say that's smaller than my router, but one of my router is about that size [03:16] and the other two are towers and 2u servers (out of order currently) [03:19] cyberanger: my big thing is what to do with this little jewel :) [03:20] * Unit193 could think of a few things... [03:20] Unit193: i can too just not for sure which ones [03:21] i have a laser printer that i would like to have in a remote location but seems a little too much just for a print server [03:22] * Unit193 wonders when the LoCo members are going to start personal blogs [03:23] Unit193: going to? [03:23] You have the Swissknife one, but not sure that counts :D [03:24] wrst: got a list of 100 ideas, and that's the short list [03:24] ha ha [03:25] Unit193: well it doesn't, but all others aren't internet facing [03:25] cyberanger: Makes sense. I setup wordpress for the fun of it then added a post [03:25] (Same idea, not public) [03:27] we should setup blog [03:27] blogs* [03:28] and have ubuntu-tennessee.org syndicate them [03:34] Unit193: i'm liking this never thought i would be streaming music on a "server" [03:36] wrst: It's Pandora, it's awesome! Did you get remote audio setup too? [03:38] no haven't done that, hmm how big of a deal is that? [03:39] Not done it yet, but I have a page or two getting me setup [03:39] wrst: big of a deal or a big of a mess/pain/pain in the duff/ars*/@$$ [03:40] think i will pass then :) [03:40] lirc should be easy [03:40] or use a laptop/mobile device and ssh as a remote :D [03:41] But LOIC is more fun ;) [03:42] binarymutant: lirc is easy [03:42] :~$ wtf loic\n Gee... I don't know what loic means... [03:42] wrst: it's a minor deal, a medium pain [03:42] and it can be worth the pain, but not always [03:43] cyberanger: what tool do you use to do it? [03:46] low orbit ion cannon [03:46] ! [03:48] ha ha well off to bed I go have a good night everyone [03:48] night wrst [03:48] You got it :P [03:48] And good night (even though you're already gone) [03:49] ha Unit193 caught it before I left, goodnight [03:51] wrst: pulseaudio or portaudio [03:51] like I said, I dislike pulse for regular use, this it was meant for however [03:52] binarymutant: low orbit limits the firing time over an area, I use a high orbit ion cannon with radar absorbant material & a IR reducing paint [03:52] stealth ion cannon ;-) [03:54] cyberanger: it's a ddos tool [03:54] 4chan approved apparently [03:54] I mean, anon approved. Same thing. [03:54] haha [03:55] yeah, but I like my version better [03:55] :D [04:00] wtf, it has to be charter. No longer on wifi and rizon and quakenet just reconnected :( :( :( [04:05] binarymutant: well, your neck of the woods perhaps, your modem perhaps [04:06] plenty of options including the the isp [04:07] binarymutant: I had issues until a server & using ssh, ssh was a bit more tolerant with connection loss, as long as it was short term [04:07] no clue, freenode&oftc stayed up, rizon&quakenet reconnected [04:07] it's mindboggling now [04:10] <-- had no clue roguelikes were so popular with windows developers. I'm having a hard time finding native linux RLs [04:10] it's mindboggling too [04:13] binarymutant: traceroute the actual servers your connected to [04:13] perhaps a common path, not shared by the other two [04:13] 14 hops [04:14] to google.com [04:15] how about to the rizon and quakenet server your connected to, and the freenode & oftc servers [04:15] and that 14 to atlanta is right [04:15] atlanta google [04:15] ya [04:16] atlanta comcast [04:16] then to google maybe, it's an ip [04:17] first time using mtr, it's awesome. waay cooler than traceroute [04:18] that'd most likely be the meet-me room in the same DC [04:19] http://www.handlewithlinux.com/linux-washing-cooking LOL [04:19] I use tcptraceroute [04:21] is it curses candy? [04:21] mtr blinks and looks real sleek in my terminal [04:22] <3 ncurses [04:24] tcptraceroute looks like normal traceroute [04:25] binarymutant: except it's what it does [04:30] who does ubuntu-tennessee.org? [04:30] ICMP being meddled with despite it's usefulness, vs tcp with it's inherent design for it [04:30] binarymutant: domain or ...? [04:31] the site [04:32] netricious? [04:36] @gmail.com [04:36] binarymutant: Error: "gmail.com" is not a valid command. [04:36] ... [04:36] shutty bot [04:36] halo09@gmail.com ? [04:39] I can't figure it out by a whois lookup [04:43] cyberanger: you own the domain [04:48] binarymutant: the wordpress is on Svpernova09's server [04:49] we should get stuff syndicated on it, and have some irc bots do stuff with it too [04:49] seems pretty static [04:51] whois is a domain tool, and I'm not in the results [04:52] that I agree with, but not my area atm [05:29] binarymutant: Wouldn't be hard, it's called RSS feeds ;) [05:31] I know, not my call [05:32] Well, you've seen the ones that didn't work :P [05:32] Unit193: say what? [05:33] You have a ping :D [05:35] yep, that I do [05:35] in another channel [05:36] and what do you mean I've seen ones that didn't work? [05:36] I explained how mine failed that one time. Warehouse 13 it was [05:38] oh yeah, that's right [06:12] Unit193: what caused that failure anyhow [06:12] Best I could tell, was just being lame :P [06:15] ouch [07:02] Seems wrst checks the forum [12:20] Unit193: i don't check it much just happened to think about it [14:28] Hey err body === electricus_ is now known as electricus [17:52] howdy electricus [18:12] and xpistos_ [18:38] hello wrst [18:39] anybody in here ever use rsync much? [18:39] i was wondering if it's possible to rsyn a live running linux system onto a new one to clone it [18:40] electricus: cyberanger will be the man on that [18:40] unless... Unit193 you do any of that ^^^ ? [18:40] a new server/new disks specifically - rsync over the network [18:42] I haven't even gotten to this channel for reading up yet (PM now) [18:46] Afaik, not exactly, but I haven't looked into that. I have used clonezilla a few times and that worked out well [18:48] ok.. i might just use clonezilla too, just wondering if I could copy over the old server files while it's online [18:49] it's a postgre db too.. which may be a bit of a problem with that too [18:58] why wouldn't you be able to copy files from a running site? [19:03] binarymutant: i've never done an entire file system of the entire / dir live [19:04] before i waste time attempting it, just wondering if anyone has ever tried that. can't seem to find the right doc on google [19:06] I don't see any problems you'll run into unless you change hardware [19:06] and if you change hardware it's trivial to fix [19:07] I found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/migrating-a-live-filesystem-with-rsync-510069/ [19:26] electricus: I use rsync all the time [19:27] rsync sounds great, but I'm a little worried that it will delete my files if one side has no files instead of copying the side with the files [19:27] that make sense xpistos_ [19:27] several times when syncing things anyway.. if you just tell it to sync with something empty, it will just wipe out both [19:28] ? that should be happening. what tags are you use? [19:28] ing [19:28] using [19:29] you mean that 'should not' be happening? [19:30] ok.. if you do not specifiy any special arguments, then it shouldn't delete anything? can you give me an example of how do you typically use it xpistos_? [19:31] rsync /source /destination ? [19:31] yep [19:31] so I usually us rsync -avHK /source/ desitination [19:32] "rsync -rv /source /destination" is probably what i'd do [19:33] -a option preserves file permissions and date attirbutes? [19:33] .r is usually redundant [19:33] yes -a is archive [19:34] archive, verbose and maintain hard and sim links [19:34] and the HK is for hard links and symlinks [19:34] ok [19:34] but yours should not be deleteing [19:35] and just fyi rsync can also do "rsync /source /source /source /destination" [19:35] for mutliple locales [19:35] but one dest the last one [19:35] what is the comand with source and dest that you typed in that deleted your stuff === xpistos_ is now known as Xpisots [19:36] damn === Xpisots is now known as Xpistos [19:36] better [19:36] woops caps === Xpistos is now known as xpistos [19:36] ok [19:36] first one of you to say troll gets a verbal penalty shot [19:36] i didn't use it yet.. just needing a little assurance [19:37] <- lost, but ok [19:37] ok so what I would do to make sure then is cp the folder as a different name [19:37] then rsync it to a new target folder in the same directory [19:38] so like mkdir test [19:38] ya.. back up first is good advice. i'll test it out and see what happens. thanks xpistos [19:38] cp folder folderb [19:38] rsync /folderb /test/ [19:39] wait [19:39] sorry [19:39] rsync /folderb /test [19:39] well truthfully I guess it would matter for the dest but still [19:51] if the folder/file isn't on the other machine wouldn't rsync create it? [20:00] <-- sticks with `dd` for backup [20:09] cbs really needs to fix their player [20:09] I've spend more time trying to deal with it than actually watching my show [20:22] cyberanger: they probably aren't expecting people to watch it on the command line [20:22] :P [20:23] \me cough downloadit [20:24] cbs-so I'm guessing tbbt? [20:30] the room freezes everytime I say something... must be a connection issue :P [20:34] * Unit193 doesn't ever use the CBS site [20:43] cbs.com [20:49] tempting http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2011/10/12/upcoming-ruby-programming-competitions-with-matz---grand-prize---1000000-jpy/ [21:12] oh good [21:12] hotel and airfare paid! [21:12] heaven forbid you have to pay for your own air for a 1 million yen prize heh [21:12] :D [21:13] btw, 1 mil yen is less than $13k usd [21:14] ya, i guess a $1500 air ticket and $250 hotel might be needed for only $13k [21:29] usd has gone down in value. [21:29] used to be 1mill Y = 100k usd [21:29] <- product of the 90s [21:37] binarymutant: the yen has dropped too [21:39] oh yeah, typhoons and such [21:39] but they bounced back like always [21:39] nuclear meltdown drop it? [22:14] wrst: Does there happen to ba a page of OpenLP with actually updated screenshots/ [22:14] s/\//?/g [22:14] error in the regex I think [22:15] methinks [22:16] Yep, but never had to do it like that ;P [22:18] s/\?/g [22:18] wait [22:19] s/\//\?/g [22:19] sheesh [22:19] sed blows :P [22:20] sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unknown option to `s' [22:21] methinks I need a real $lang not some crusty tool from the 70's [22:25] sed is handy though, as is rename [22:26] s/\/\\?/g [22:26] * binarymutant loads gun, mindblown [22:27] Doesn't work in my sed :P [22:28] !! http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/danielmiessler/CAIcBwkwgnqChwivJrphIExbyyDndHqkiEjqhEyjbaxHFhyeJFfqlCikuedk/media_http30mediatumb_zwHul.jpg.scaled500.jpg [22:28] i don't know Unit193? [22:28] You know Unit193 [22:29] Anyway, you seemed to be the person that would know best [22:34] omg, sed is making me crazy now [22:35] "\?" should be "?" in my mind [22:53] Question mark isn't the problem [22:57] \/ ? [22:57] "\/" is "/" [22:58] Unit193: haven't looked at the page in a couple days [22:58] "/\/, /?" [22:58] (\/,\?) [22:59] Unit193: what was the prob? [22:59] Closed that screen window :P [23:00] wrst: Alright, was just asking because current seem to be from 08 :P [23:00] Unit193: http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/000/578/1234931504682.jpg [23:01] Haha! This is driving you bonkers :D [23:01] yees