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cyphai tried using setxkbmap -option crtl:swapcaps, and now I can't turn it off even though I've removed the line from local.rc00:00
sandraI'm new to Ubuntu I am currently running Ubuntu Oneiric but I am experiencing track pad troubles and can't seem to get nvidia's 285.05.09 video driver to work under Oneiric and yet everything I just listed works on Natty.00:01
sandraAny ideas ?00:01
plut0i need help troubleshooting a DNS issue.  i run a local bind server, using the command 'host' lookups succeed, pinging the same address fails. what is wrong?00:01
reisiosandra: ...use Natty?00:01
sandraalso nautilus seems to act buggy too00:01
silverlightningis there a way to find sound on my laptop? newly installed os00:02
joaquinhola. necesito ayuda libre office impress00:02
eiriksvinhello, I have a question: I have a great wifi USB wifi reciever that gives internet access to my PC, my goal is to ethernet my PS3 to my computer and use the internet connection my computer gets because the PS3s wifi isn't strong enough to pick up the signal that my PC does anyone know how to do that?00:02
eiriksvinI'm using Ubuntu 11.04 can someone help me get my PS3 online?00:02
reisioeiriksvin: your computer gets the signal from a usb peripheral?00:03
sandrareisio: I have both Natty and Oneirc on separate partitions on my laptop hard drive.00:03
kogieeiriksvin: use adhoc00:03
reisiosandra: ...use Natty?00:03
tapirAny recommendation I need a program to download files in batchs (like example01.jpg, imagen02.jpg ...) for ubuntu ?00:03
reisiotapir: what changes?00:03
eiriksvinmy PC is connected through wifi, I want to ethernet my PS3 to my PC to use its connection00:03
SIFTUtapir: wget00:03
Stanley00tapir: wget can help00:04
reisiosilverlightning: your sound isn't working?00:04
eiriksvinI don't know how to get it to connect00:04
reisioeiriksvin: ah00:04
reisioeiriksvin: and your PS3 is stock?00:04
tapiri use Uget is the same ?00:04
eiriksvinyep00:04
sandrareisio: are you saying just use Natty ? I know Oneiric is due out in a few days . Are you saying that Oneiric is not close to prime time use ?00:04
kogieeiriksvin: you may setup adhoc on your pc and connect your ps3 via wifi00:05
reisiosandra: if it were it'd be out, but that's irrelevant if it's not working for you00:05
eiriksvinI have it on auto eth0 it picked it up, but how do I let the PS3 use my connection?00:05
sandraAnd that there is no current solution to my listed problem on Oneiric?00:05
reisiooh there probably is00:05
silverlightningreisio: probably, I am get help in lubuntu channel00:06
cyphareisio, glad to see you!00:06
SIFTUtapir: no idea about uget, but wget can recursively get files from the web00:06
somsip!11.10 | sandra00:06
ubottusandra: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+100:06
somsipsandra: so #ubuntu+1 might have more answers for you00:06
eiriksvinI only have a wifi dongle, it don't put out signals but its awesome at recieving them00:06
cyphaall these questions, and there was no one with answers00:06
silverlightningeiriksvin: have to improve your nick00:07
reisiocypha: hi00:07
silverlightning; )00:07
cyphaI tried using setxkbmap -option crtl:swapcaps, and now I can't turn it off even though I've removed the line from local.rc00:07
reisiosilverlightning: k?00:07
reisiosandra: you could try another kernel version00:07
kogieeiriksvin: i suggest googling on how to setup adhoc00:07
reisio(for the nvidia issue)00:07
eiriksvinsilverlightning: my nick is in honor of a relative that passed00:08
sandraI use classic mode under Natty I don't use Unity. In my opinion the classic mode is seems more intuitive vs Natty00:08
reisiovs Natty or Unity00:09
silverlightningeiriksvin: oh, sorry, I was thinking it might need some nicing up00:09
silverlightning; )00:09
somsipsilverlightning: hole, deep enough, stop00:09
reisioyeah, don't apologize, that's wrong00:09
eiriksvinwtf? my nick is icelandic00:10
reisiodoes that surprise you?00:10
eiriksvinit means "the friend of Eirik00:10
eiriksvin"00:11
reisiohow do you say Eirik the dominator?00:11
xangua!ot00:11
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:11
mynoteshow to change password on ubuntu00:11
tdruskI have two desktops here. One is  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU          450  @ 2.20GHz and the other is a celeron duo. Any clue as to which is faster?00:11
reisiomynotes: the password for your user?00:11
reisiotdrusk: what's the number on the latter00:12
cyphaI tried using setxkbmap -option crtl:swapcaps, and now I can't turn it off even though I've removed the line from local.rc00:12
somsiptdrusk: cat /proc/cpuinfo on each and check the bogomips, as a very rough idea00:12
bkerensaSo I'm installing Ubuntu (Natty) on a friends laptop but for some reason the video is weird its like blinds00:12
bkerensaany help?00:12
reisiomynotes: I don't know the GUI way, but you can run 'passwd' in a terminal00:13
somsip!nomodeset | bkerensa00:13
ubottubkerensa: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:13
reisiobkerensa: nvidia?00:13
bkerensareisio: Yes00:13
bkerensaHP Pavilion with nvidia card00:13
mynotesreisio: thanks00:16
bkerensareisio: It looks all blinds even when I login00:16
bkerensa:D00:16
bkerensareisio: Any how to for fixing this would be appreciated00:16
mynoteshow to create shared folder on ubuntu. i'm using vmware with  window xp host and guest os ubuntu 10.1000:16
reisiowell it's probably using the open source driver, nouveau, during installation00:16
reisiobkerensa: if you can make it through the install, it's possible you can just switch to the binary driver and call it a day00:17
somsipbkerensa: I've suggest looking at nomodeset which is advice repeated on this link. But you might find more info here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170653900:17
reisiomynotes: I only know how in VirtualBox, but presumably #vmware would know how for VMware00:17
eiriksvincna anyone with networking skills help me get my PC to share it's wifi internet connection with my PS300:17
spreadneck205does anyone know how i can get an asus usb n13 wireless adapter to work for 11.04? i have the installation disk but im not sure how to use the files provided...00:24
reisiospreadneck205: does it say 'Linux' on the disc? :p00:24
Krenairhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/Ubuntu%2011.04%20panel%20right%20click%20problem.png Ubuntu 11.0400:24
KrenairWhy is this happening and how can I fix it?00:25
Ben64wheres the problem00:25
reisiotext in the menu00:25
spreadneck205it is compatible, there is a folder titled "linux" i extracted the files, but i cant understand how to install the driver.... the readme is over my head00:26
KrenairBen64, what reisio said00:26
Ben64looks like a problem with your theme00:26
zimb0check my website: http://rep.sdf.org00:26
Ben64zimb0: please don't advertise00:26
cyphaI tried using setxkbmap -option crtl:swapcaps, and now I can't turn it off even though I've removed the line from local.rc00:27
zimb0Alright00:27
MACscr|lappyi just did a server install, but i ended up adding the gnome gui and i want to get the disk manager as well. Whats it called? Trying to install it with apt00:27
reisiospreadneck205: it's be pretty surprising if you don't already have the driver available to modprobe00:27
tanzy_hello yall00:27
Ben64MACscr|lappy: how did you install gnome00:27
reisiospreadneck205: maybe rt2800usb00:27
spreadneck205reisio: im not sure what you mean00:28
MACscr|lappyBen64: sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop --without-recommendations00:28
MACscr|lappyor something like that00:28
reisioI mean when there are drivers for things, they're added to the kernel, you don't have to rely on random install discs00:28
Ben64why without? i think it would have installed disk manager00:28
reisiospreadneck205: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Asus%20USB-N13_Natty%2011.0400:28
zimb0 "never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"00:29
spreadneck205reisio: ok, ill try that.. it says something about n-band not working? thats the only reason i would need the driver00:30
reisiospreadneck205: n _speed_ is what I remember reading00:30
reisiofor a particular version00:30
Ben64MACscr|lappy: "sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility" is probably what you want00:31
reisioso it might not give you as fast a connection as it is physically able to, because of the driver, but it'll work00:31
MACscr|lappyBen64: because i didnt want all the extra crap like office or evolution, etc00:31
reisioGNOME is pretty enormous even without that stuff00:31
spreadneck205reisio: right, im using my internal wifi right now... i just got this so i would get faster internet... works awesome iin windows, but if it wont give me better speeds than b/g then i can just use the one im on now00:31
DrecondiusGood evening, where do i need to go for installation issues?00:32
reisiospreadneck205: well check00:32
spreadneck205reisio: ok thanks00:32
reisiospreadneck205: if it doesn't, what I'd do is check for a newer version that does00:32
spreadneck205ok cool00:32
reisiospreadneck205: or if both those drivers work for it, perhaps try the other one00:32
* reisio shrugs00:32
bjorkintoshdoes ubuntu run on intel xeon machines?00:33
Drecondiusafaik00:33
spreadneck205reisio: same here, thanks for yo help00:33
reisiobjorkintosh: naturally00:33
bjorkintoshhmm. is it an x86 architecture?00:33
bjorkintosherr. ISA ...00:33
bjorkintoshi'm not at all familiar with them.00:33
reisioamd6400:33
reisioprobably00:33
reisiobjorkintosh: you don't know the exact model number?00:34
Drecondiusbjorkintosh: xeon are em64t or x86 depending on what kind of load you expect00:34
bjorkintoshnot at all. i'm researching a machine for datacrunching.00:34
Drecondiusand os you install00:34
bjorkintoshso i need to have lots of ram.00:34
bjorkintosh> 8 gig.00:34
Drecondiusthat's what i run for my daily needs fer gaming lol00:35
bjorkintoshem64t?00:35
Drecondiusintel's x64 arch00:35
cyphamy local.rc file is being ignored00:35
reisiothey don't actually call it that anymore00:35
cyphacan someone please help?00:35
Ibis!ask cypha00:36
Drecondiusi been outta the loop, been using amd for about 2 yrs now so ...00:36
cyphaI just did Ibis00:36
Ibiscypha: Don't ask to ask, just tell us your problem.00:36
reisioand Linux land calls it amd64 anyways00:36
cypha!stopspamtrigger00:36
IbisWe can not help you if we do not know the issue.00:36
cyphalocal.rc is not being respected00:37
cyphacommands in there don't run00:37
cyphaI don't think00:37
mariana???????????'''00:37
cyphagot a command I can test it with00:37
cypha?00:37
mariana?????????00:37
marianahello00:37
reisiobjorkintosh: vast majority of modern processors are going to fall into amd6400:37
edbianmariana, hi00:37
smwWhat is the code name for the next ubuntu?00:37
Ibiscypha: Sure. Put in firefox. o_O00:37
reisiosmw: next after what?00:37
smwreisio, the next one to be released00:38
Ben64precise pangolin00:38
reisiosmw: oneiric00:38
cyphaIbis, k00:38
cyphabrb00:38
smwreisio, probably this month if they stick to schedule :-)00:38
Ben64oh00:38
Ibissmw: Oneiric00:38
reisiosmw: right00:38
smwthanks reisio00:38
Ben64precise is in april 201200:38
zimb0 smw: the next ubuntu will be called wanker00:38
reisio11.10 oneiric ocelot00:38
marianaim español00:38
reisioshould be an amusing couple years with that name00:38
reisiomaybe people will start using the version _number_ like they're supposed to00:39
marianayou00:39
smwreisio, petrified panda!00:39
reisioim english00:39
reisiosmw: frozen ferret00:39
Ibispretty phoenix00:39
zimb0i'm00:39
marianaim spañol??00:39
marianano??00:39
cyphaIbis, no, that did not work00:39
smwreisio, f is not after O :-P00:40
reisiomariana: probably #ubuntu-es00:40
reisiosmw: who cares00:40
marianaim not inglish00:40
reisioversion numbers00:40
reisiomariana: I can tell00:40
smw!es | mariana00:40
ubottumariana: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.00:40
cyphaibis, actually it's rc.local00:40
cyphanot local.rc00:40
cyphasorry for the dyslexia00:41
Ibiscypha: Lol, okay. It happens.00:41
smwmariana, todo bien? :-)00:41
cyphaanyway, yes, it didn't run firefox00:41
meem1029Out of curiosity, what does rc stand for in all those config files?00:41
edbianrental car00:41
mariana????00:42
smwmeem1029, runlevel control?00:42
hunterhey yall00:42
Krenairhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/Ubuntu%2011.04%20panel%20right%20click%20problem.png Ubuntu 11.04. Might be a problem with the theme. Any other ideas/how to fix?00:42
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IbisRun command?00:42
marianahello00:42
yeatsmeem1029: run command(s)00:42
Guest85017would you happen to know more about compiz?00:43
meem1029Cool.  I've always wondered that.  Thanks for the answers.00:43
edbianhunter hello00:43
cyphaIbis, you're telling me?00:43
Ibiscypha: I was answering meem1029.00:43
Guest85017hello edbian00:43
edbianGuest85017, hi00:44
Guest85017whats up00:44
edbianNothing, you have a support question Guest85017 ?00:44
reisioIbis: alt+f2?00:45
Guest85017sort of00:45
Ibisreisio: I was answering meem1029.00:45
edbianGuest85017, I live to answer questions.  Let's here it00:45
reisiowas you...00:45
Guest85017i need to know how to get my windows to burn up when closed00:45
reisioedbian: what's the square root of 87400:45
zimb0Guest85017 what's up00:45
IbisGuest85017: Yea, and let's not "ask to ask". Get to the point.00:45
marianahello as they are? where are they?00:45
Guest85017nm zimb000:46
zimb0 edbian: let's HEAR it00:46
yeats!compiz | Guest8501700:46
ubottuGuest85017: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz00:46
Guest85017ive got compiz i just cant figure out the burning windows00:47
marianahello!!!00:47
IbisHi mariana.00:47
Guest85017hello00:47
Lithos84mariana: Hello.00:47
marianahello as they are? where are they?00:48
yeats!ccsm | Guest8501700:48
ubottuGuest85017: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz00:48
edbian29.563490998100:48
edbiansorry it took me a second, I'm on many channels right now00:48
cyphawhy isn't rc.local loading at boot?00:48
Guest85017ok thanks i will try that00:48
marianathat is??00:48
yeatsmariana: support question?00:49
marianano entiendo00:49
Guest85017do you guys have ubuntu as a replacement for windows or next to it?00:50
yeats!es | mariana00:50
ubottumariana: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.00:50
D_Russhello all00:50
reisioalready in #ubuntu-es00:50
reisioD_Russ: hi00:50
smwGuest85017, replacement00:50
bugs_buggerhey there. havent found nothing on the webs about this: is it possible to use gnome-shell/mutter and gnome-panels/metacity as different sessions?00:50
zimb0check my website: http://rep.sdf.org00:50
Guest85017yo whats up D_Russ00:50
marianabye00:50
reisiobugs_bugger: if you can install them on the same system, of course00:50
reisiozimb0: hang on, I'll find a banstick for you00:51
smwGuest85017, please get a real nick :-)00:51
zimb0reisio: bring it . nazi00:51
Guest85017ok i will do i need to restart IRC?00:52
reisiozimb0: are you ready?!00:52
bugs_buggerreisio: gnome3 has them both or am i mistaken. isnt that what the fallback-mode is about? how would i create a session for gnome panels?00:52
edbianGuest85017, no, just /nick <newName>00:52
smwGuest85017, all you need to do is type /nick a-new-nick00:52
IbisGuest85017: sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm                                     Simply Compiz Config Settings Manager.00:52
Guest85017k00:52
D_Russi have this strange bug thats forcing me to resize thunderbird before i close it. using natty, i have global menus turned off, i have allow all apps to minmize to sys tray. If i close an app while it is maximized and it goes to the system tray i am not able to grab and move other open maximized windows by grabbing it at the title bar.00:52
reisiobugs_bugger: did you check the little drop down list in GDM?00:52
D_Russanyone see this happening?00:52
hunter_hunter00:53
bugs_buggerreisio: yeah, i have a "GNOME" Session with the Shell and a "Gnome" wich is supposed to use the "old" config with gnome panels00:53
hunter_ok there finaly00:54
Lithos84D_Russ: Hello.00:54
D_RussLithos84 how are you00:54
bugs_buggerreisio: but when i log in to "Gnome" it says that the config gnome-common could not be found00:54
scottamungaHey everybody, just curious if anybody knows where I can download the Light Themes from Maverick and above for Lucid Lynx?00:54
scottamungaThanks!00:55
reisiobugs_bugger: is that exactly what it says?00:55
BashI have a ntfs hard drive that's failing hard and wondering the best way to automaticall transfer all the files it can without me having to input anything if it gets an i/o error and needs to skip.00:55
stigma_Hey folks, I know this may not seem like an entirely ubuntu-specific query, but I'm fairly new to Linux, so the minutia is important: anybody know how I update GCC to the latest version and update Code::Blocks to use it?00:55
IbisGuest85017: If that don't work, then use this: sudo apt-get installccsm                                     Compiz Config Settings Manager.00:56
reisioBash: define failing hard00:56
bugs_buggerreisio: uhm, not sure, wait ill change the user00:56
Ibissudo apt-get install ccsm00:56
mappumAre there any tools for measuring FLOPS (on all my GPUs + CPU)?00:56
bugs_buggerscottamunga: is this the thing you're lookin for? http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/light-themes00:56
hunter_im not guest85017 no more00:56
Ibisstigma_: sudo apt-get install gcc                          <---- It may tell you about updates and such.00:57
pangolinreisio: may I pm?00:57
reisioBash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ddrescue#cite_ref-700:57
hunter_ibis: i have it installed00:57
bugs_buggerscottamunga: aw, sorry, that was the german page. packages.ubuntu.com/en/lucid/light-themes00:57
Bashreisio: Many bad sectors, it can't read/write half of it and many .sfv's give wrong checksums.00:57
Ibishunter_: Oh good.00:57
reisiopangolin: free country :p00:57
BlueProtomanOK...00:57
stigma_Ibis: Thanks! Will that auto-update Code::Blocks?  The idea is to gain access to C++11 features/libs.00:58
hunter_yea i have had ubuntu for like a month now it was my first installed thing00:58
scottamungaI'll check, I was wanting to replace the default light themes from lucid with the Maverick ones.00:58
BlueProtomanAnyone here know how I might get Ubuntu on my laptop working?  When I dual-boot it (opposed to Windows 7) via GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor.  I can access recovery mode (aka a shell), though.00:58
scottamungaThanks for the link though00:58
mappumSorry if it is bad IRC etiquette to ask twice, but:00:59
BlueProtomanAnyone?00:59
mappumSorry if it is bad IRC etiquette to ask twice, but:00:59
mappumAre there any tools for measuring FLOPS (on all my GPUs + CPU)?00:59
FloodBot1mappum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:59
BlueProtomanI've been at this for days...00:59
aymanhow to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line00:59
aymanhow to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line00:59
aymanhow to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line01:00
Bashreisio: Looks good. If I just wants to save a single folder (recursively) without any user input, are there any terminal commands01:00
yeats!repeat | ayman01:00
ubottuayman: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/01:00
BashHave tried via Nautilus but it's lackluster.01:00
reisioBash: cp ?01:00
reisioBash: cp path/to/some/dir/ path/to/whereyouwantit/01:01
ayman how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line01:01
hunter_hey what does blur windows in compiz do?01:01
scottamungabugs_bugger I tried googling it, but it seems the webpages with links to Maverick Light Themes for Lucid have been taken down?01:01
BlueProtomanAnyone?  Blinking cursor?01:01
BlueProtomanI think the issue might be either graphic drivers or a bad installation.01:01
ayman any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line01:01
stigma_Hmmm... "sudo apt-get install gcc" reports that the newest version is currently installed.  GNU site says 4.6.1 is "newest".  How can I check the version number on my machine?01:01
reisiohunter_: http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Blur01:01
reisiohunter_: appears to be similar to what Windows Aero windows do01:01
reisioI couldn't tell you who did it first01:02
hunter_blueprotoman:probubly bad install01:02
yeatsBash: you could try rsync too ('rsync -av source dest')01:02
reisioprobably someone else entirely01:02
Bwaah/part/wc01:02
BlueProtomanhunter_: Mind helping me fix it?  Getting it on the laptop in the first place was an absolute bitch.01:02
bugs_buggerreisio: it says "Failed to load session gnome-classic". also, changing to another user an logging back in to my account just garbled the x-server o.001:02
BlueProtomanI still have the USB drive that I used.  (I used the Universal USB Installer.)01:02
Krenairhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/Ubuntu%2011.04%20panel%20right%20click%20problem.png Ubuntu 11.04. Might be a problem with the theme. Any other ideas/how to fix?01:02
EearslyaIs there any way to 'mount' an install disc ISO to another partition of a hard drive and install the OS from there?01:03
hunter_blueprotoman:can you posably make a cd?01:03
bugs_buggerscottamunga: dunno, have you tried installing light-themes via synaptic?01:03
BlueProtomanhunter_: Not at the moment, I'd prefer to do it another way.01:03
scottamungabugs_bugger, good idea, but I didn't try that.  I assumed it would just be Lucid's version.01:03
reisiobugs_bugger: you see this? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22failed%20to%20load%20session%22%20%22gnome-classic%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org01:03
reisioEearslya: yup01:04
reisioEearslya: want to dual boot?01:04
hunter_blueprotoman:just sayin cd would be faster considering you can install through boot with cd at startup01:04
D_Russi have this strange bug thats forcing me to resize thunderbird before i close it. using natty, i have global menus turned off, i have allow all apps to minmize to sys tray. If i close an app while it is maximized and it goes to the system tray i am not able to grab and move other open maximized windows by grabbing it at the title bar.01:04
ayman any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line01:04
Eearslyareisio: No. It's just that my computer is having issues and will not boot from CD or USB.01:04
BlueProtomanhunter_: As can I with USB, right?  My laptop is fairly new, it supports USB booting.01:05
BlueProtomanActually, very new.01:05
reisioEearslya: so you have one OS on it right now that you want to replace01:05
BlueProtomanIt might have been released this year.01:05
ayman any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line01:05
hunter_blueprotoman:ok yes is it toshiba by chance?01:05
bugs_buggerreisio: ok, ill skam through, thanks01:05
ayman any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line01:05
laumonierEearslya:  did you have check your bios to boot for the cd or usb?01:05
Eearslyareisio: Yes. Right now I'm on Ubuntu 11.04. I want to put the 10.04 install ISO on another partition to boot from it and install 10.04.01:05
BlueProtomanhunter_: No, it's a Samsung QX411-W01.01:06
Eearslyalaumonier: Yes, it -supports- CD and USB booting, but it just doesn't work.01:06
stigma_I found the answer to my above question.  For anyone else interested: dpkg -s gcc01:06
tanzy_Would someone mind helping me with a slight issue involving wlan drivers?01:06
hunter_blueprotoman:are you trying to do a full install or run with windows?01:06
BlueProtomanhunter_: Dual-boot with Windows 7, but use Ubuntu primarily.  I've already got Ubuntu installed, it just doesn't work properly.01:07
reisioEearslya: why don't you just update from 10.04 to 11.0401:07
BlueProtomanStill got the shell, but no xorg.conf, apparently.01:07
Eearslyareisio: Other way.01:07
BlueProtomanThat seemed to be the hot topic last night.01:07
reisioEearslya: ah :)01:07
reisioEearslya: you's backwads! :p01:07
laumonierEearslya:  for usb booting did you use ubuntu tool?01:08
hunter_tanzy:sure what sems to be the issue?01:08
BlueProtomanhunter_: Oh, and it's all been partitioned, too.01:08
Eearslyareisio: 10.04 didn't give me as many issues as 11.04 has.01:08
Eearslyalaumonier: You mean wubi?01:08
bugs_buggerscottamunga: i found this here: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-ubuntu-1010-light-themes-in.html01:08
D_Russ11.10 will be out in a couple days01:09
BlueProtomanhunter_?01:09
milkhey all, trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.4, getting a "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." message. i /think/ i need to downgrade some packages, but i don't know how to figure out which ones. any advice?01:09
hunter_blueprotoman:hmm when i installed it on my asus celeron processor computer it worked fine which ubuntu version is it?01:09
GTRsdkIn Natty and Oneiric, when booting , where it would normally show the boot logo, my monitor says "Out of Range". Is there a way to see what resolution is being used?01:09
bkerensareisio: I tried the nomodeset but I cant get into grub01:09
tanzy_hunter_:  I installed ubuntu 10.04.3 and I am unable to get my linksys wusb11 (ver 2.8) to even be recognized by the system01:10
BlueProtomanhunter_: 11.04, alternate (official) version with different drivers.01:10
laumonierEearslya: did you use a tool like unetbootin to make your usb key bootable?if not i adivse you to use this its really a good tool01:10
BlueProtomanhunter_: Mind if we bring this to PM?01:10
reisiobkerensa: what do you need to get into grub for01:10
D_Russdo you guys think its generally a bad idea to do first day upgrade?01:10
D_Russwell update01:10
reisioEearslya: some examples here: http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB01:10
bkerensareisio: To fix this venetian blinds nvidia issue01:10
reisioEearslya: it might actually be less trouble, though, if you have the free partition space, to install in a VM and copy it over01:11
hunter_tanzy:i had the same prob with a wireless caard i think he system uses ethernet01:11
reisioEearslya: the only issue with that is you'd have to take care to make sure your vital drivers are installed, as the VM will confuse the installer's auto-detection-and-configure stuffo01:11
hunter_blueprotoman:sure01:11
reisiobkerensa: does the installed system boot or not?01:12
EearslyaWell, I have a blank 4.00GB space on my HDD for whatever reason..But I can't seem to format it while Ubuntu is running.01:12
hunter_blueprotoman:or call me and i can talk  you through it01:12
bkerensareisio: It boots but instead of the normal boot splash screen it is black and then upon login it goes to the venetian blinds01:12
tanzy_hunter_ I am nable to use ethernet. I broght the system over to a friend's house to a wired connection in order to suss the problem and get my wireless working...01:12
scorinitronI need help trying to install tor01:12
tanzy_hunter_: unable*01:13
reisiobkerensa: okay, change to the binary driver01:13
reisiobkerensa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:13
Lithos84scorinitron: What kind of help?01:13
hunter_tanzy:try reinstalling the system with ethernet plugged in01:14
EearslyaReal quick, you can access Ubuntu One files from other OS, correct?01:16
Alastair1yes01:16
Alastair1one.ubuntu.com01:16
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Alastair1or witha  client. i think there's w indows one. not sure about MacOS01:16
OerHeksno Kubuntu client :(01:17
Lithos84!tor | scorinitron01:17
ubottuscorinitron: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl01:17
bkerensareisio: Thanks :D Its in progress now01:17
hunter_hey guys01:18
reisiohey hunter_01:19
hunter_reisio:you a computer person?01:20
BlueProtomanAnyone here know how I might get Ubuntu on my laptop working?  When I dual-boot it (opposed to Windows 7) via GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor.  I can access recovery mode (aka a shell), though.01:20
reisiohunter_: yup, I'm made of circuit boards and the like01:21
iszakIs 11.10 actually rolled into an iso yet?01:21
yeatsiszak: ask in #ubuntu+101:21
hunter_reisio: awesome same here im running out of room for my computer stuff01:22
reisioyeah one time I lost my leg, but I could still ssh into it01:22
GTRsdkiszak: there are isos, but the release manager will choose the release iso01:22
Lithos84iszak: http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/01:23
BlueProtomanHello?  Anyone?01:25
ubiq2hey01:25
ayman any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line01:25
ubiq2lol i have the exact same question ayman :D01:25
GTRsdkayman: just choose the session01:25
GTRsdkthen it should automatically rechoose that one01:26
ubiq2i have a toshiba ac10001:26
hunter_whats up guys01:26
reisioGTRsdk: dm is the session manager01:26
GTRsdkreisio: I use lightdm all of the time and if I choose Ubuntu, it will automatically use Ubuntu. If I choose 2D, then it will automaticall use 2D.01:27
ubiq2even when autologin in?01:28
reisioGTRsdk: just hasn't anything to do with what he asked for01:28
Atreuswhy am i unable to change the screen birghtness percentage while on battery power though the power management?01:28
GTRsdkoh. by CLI.01:29
ubiq2no but i replaced ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop01:29
ubiq2and had to click through the gui01:29
ubiq2that sucks :D01:29
little420smokehey i need help01:29
ubiq2yes by cli01:30
hunter_little420smoke: with what?01:30
little420smokehunter i need to remove ubuntu from my computer but it is the only os on the system..... so what do i do01:30
D_Russi have this strange bug thats forcing me to resize thunderbird before i close it. using natty, i have global menus turned off, i have allow all apps to minmize to sys tray. If i close an app while it is maximized and it goes to the system tray i am not able to grab and move other open maximized windows by grabbing it at the title bar.01:31
reisiolittle420smoke: why do you need to remove it?01:31
ubiq2lol that was not the question reisio but nice try :)01:31
hunter_little420smoke:do you have another os your gonna use?01:31
little420smokereisio because im selling my comp and getting a new01:31
reisioubiq2: hrmm?01:31
reisiolittle420smoke: ah01:32
reisiolittle420smoke: you can use dd from a live OS01:32
hunter_technoviking:welcome01:32
little420smokecan i use thie ubuntu live cd to remove it01:32
hunter_zylum:welcome01:32
reisiolittle420smoke: yes it should have dd01:33
little420smokehunter i have to put xp on it01:33
BlueProtomanAnyone here know how I might get Ubuntu on my laptop working?  When I dual-boot it (opposed to Windows 7) via GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor.  I can access recovery mode (aka a shell), though.01:33
reisiolittle420smoke: you could also do a non-fast NTFS format of the entire drive01:33
CSyncopei installed xmonad and it's making sounds when i open and close tabs in chromium and other things, how do i stop this?01:33
reisiolittle420smoke: ah, well if you install XP on it and do a non-quick NTFS format, that will wipe the drive01:33
little420smokereisio how would i do that01:33
reisiolittle420smoke: it's part of the install process01:34
ubiq2throw in the xp-cd, don't forget to change the first boot device to CD in BIOS, format the whole drive, install xp01:34
reisiowhen the installer boots up it asks about partitioning01:34
reisioand then it asks about formatting01:34
reisiojust use NTFS, and make sure it isn't the "quick" format01:34
reisioquick doesn't wipe01:34
little420smokewhen i use the xp disk it only loads the drivers and files then it says that windows has shut dow due to wrong format01:34
hunter_little420smoke: oh ok this is very simple reisio can also tell you yea simply wipe the drive and install formatting may take time dependin on the hdd size01:35
reisiosounds like your media is bonkers01:35
ubiq2or your cd-drive01:35
BlueProtomanAnyone?  Fixing Ubuntu via CLI?  I wish I could elaborate more on the issue, but...01:35
little420smokeidk but is there any way of doing it inside ubuntu01:36
hunter_im not sure ive only formatted one way01:36
alazare619i got 8 invites to google music beta who wants?01:36
reisiohrmmm01:36
hunter_xr: whats up01:36
reisiospend a week uploading copies of my music to Google's servers01:36
reisiowith no guarantee that they won't delete it01:37
ubiq2you can't format a mounted/active system partition.01:37
reisiowhen I could just set up my own media server01:37
little420smokeor is there a way thati can format the partitions without the live cd01:37
reisiolittle420smoke: you can format it as NTFS from the Ubuntu live CD01:37
ubiq2but there are partition managers of course... gparted f.ex.01:37
reisiolittle420smoke: but that won't guarantee that your XP install image will load properly01:37
little420smokewell i have xp and win 7 ult01:38
ubiq2burned or original copies?01:38
little420smokeand idk where my ubuntu disk is01:38
hunter_you may want to win 7 ult01:38
reisiolittle420smoke: either will work, assuming you don't mind either OS being installed01:38
little420smokewin 7 is burned and xp is original01:39
reisioand assuming the media actually loads properly :p01:39
reisiolittle420smoke: all you have to remember is to do a full, non-quick NTFS format during install01:39
little420smokeit wont give me the option to format it tho01:39
reisioone time I caught my friend doing a non-quick NTFS format on a(n empty) 2TB disc :p01:40
ubiq2yea because your medium is probably corrupted or your cd-drive01:40
ubiq2test that01:40
reisioit was taking him ages, poor fellow01:40
pac1grub is complaining that lvm physical volumes are not found.  What could cause that?01:40
reisiolittle420smoke: it should, that's a standard part of the install process01:40
little420smokeit doesent go that far01:40
little420smokeor would it be easer to use a different hadr drive01:41
ubiq2420smoke: try & error01:41
little420smokeok well thank you all for the help and i will see what i can do with that... and i should be back on my new comp in a day or two. so thanks01:42
ubiq2good luck01:43
hunter_no prob01:43
little420smokety01:43
little420smokei will let u guys know what happens01:43
BlueProtomanAnyone?  Able to help me with my problem?  Anyone here know how I might get Ubuntu on my laptop working?  When I dual-boot it (opposed to Windows 7) via GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor.  I can access recovery mode (aka a shell), though.01:43
BlueProtomantest01:44
ubiq2BlueProtoman: maybe "startx" from the shell and post error  messages, don't really know about that01:44
BlueProtomanubiq2: startx command not found01:45
ubiq2k01:45
almoxarifeBlueProtoman: how did you install ubuntu?01:45
BlueProtomanalmoxarife: Via a flash drive with the Universal USB Installer.01:45
ubiq2i bet out of windows01:45
BlueProtomanNo, not Wubi.01:46
ubiq2okay01:46
BlueProtomanI know that it's inadequate.01:46
BlueProtomanThough I admittedly almost used it.  :P01:46
almoxarifeBlueProtoman: when you start up the machine what comes up? grub or winchooser01:46
BlueProtomanalmoxarife: GRUB.  Remember that Ubuntu is already installed.01:47
almoxarifeBlueProtoman: and you still have the usb installer?01:47
BlueProtomanalmoxarife: I stil have the drive with Ubuntu on it, yes.01:48
ubiq2do you have any unnecessary usb-devices plugged in?01:48
BlueProtomanubiq2: No.01:48
ubiq2okay01:48
BlueProtomanJust the flash drive in question.01:49
BlueProtomanBut I can remove it.01:49
hunter_hey01:49
almoxarifeBlueProtoman: what you will need to do then is re-install grub, via a rescue disk/usb, yours may be just that, especially if it was the 'alternate' version01:50
BlueProtomanalmoxarife: What do you mean, exactly?  I don't quite understand.01:50
knapolianknapolian wishes to join01:53
rhizmoeso, what are we calling this new flip-out scroll thumb?01:53
reisioI call it tommy01:53
ubiq2almoxarife: you could reinstall grub from live-cd, don't know if that would be the best choice01:54
knapolianwygenius, are you from Wyoming?01:54
SetiAmonI keep getting failed to download from repositor message01:56
SetiAmonis everyone getting this?01:56
SetiAmonW:Failed to fetch http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/<Natty>/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 86.59.30.36 80]01:56
SetiAmon, W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/<Natty>/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]01:56
FloodBot1SetiAmon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:56
PiciSetiAmon: Why do you have <Natty> in there? it should just be natty01:56
SetiAmonWeird01:57
SetiAmonlet me check01:57
SetiAmonit seems to be related to other party software.tor and libcre i thought it was main repos02:00
hunter_how do i write wih fire in compiz?02:01
fructoseCan anyone recommend a method for me to get a remote connection to my mother's Windows 7 Home (not Pro, so no rdesktop) from Ubuntu 11.04? I tried gitso, but it fails during install02:02
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almoxarifefructose: chrome/chromium?02:03
fructosealmoxarife: Those are web browsers02:04
cgc17almoxarife: you can remote desktop w/ chrome/chromium?02:04
reisiofructose: teamviewer02:04
almoxarifecgc17: yes you can, fructose02:04
ubiq2nice info02:04
knapolianwygenius, you still in the room?02:04
fructosealmoxarife: Yes you can what?02:04
almoxarifefructose: you can remote desktop with chrome/chromium02:05
cgc17almoxarife, that is pretty cool. how do you do it?02:05
fructosealmoxarife: I'm pretty sure that's not a feature built into the browser, so you'll have to elaborate02:05
almoxarifecgc17: there is a new app , google it, its in the google store, free02:05
ti-prgmrHey! I know you guys get this a lot, but seriously thanks so much for doing this whole project.02:05
almoxarifefructose: I am sure it is, I have used it02:05
fructosealmostroot: If it's in any store, then it's definitely not built in02:06
almoxarifeChrome Remote Desktop BETA › Connect02:06
Brad87Yo whats shakin02:07
ubiq2i will definately check this out02:07
Brad87My penis is sore02:07
fructosealmoxarife: That's an extension, but yes, that might help02:07
Brad87is this the channel where i can get some help for that?02:08
almoxarifefructose: not an extension, and it will remote desktop02:08
reisioBrad87: doesn't sound like it's quite in the scope02:08
nightwalkfructose: there's also ultravnc + openssh (google 'openssh win32' - it should be the first or second link)02:08
Brad87i tried # sorepenis but it was empty02:08
ubiq2sudo heal penis02:08
reisiofructose: teamviewer, no install, go forth02:09
fructosereisio: Yeah, just always skeptical of such companies02:09
dhasenan_Brad87, you may have to enable the 'venereal' ppa.02:10
sprungHi. I believe I inadvertently uninstalled the package which logs to /var/log/messages because I wanted to install sar, which required sysstat, which I think removed whatever syslog utility I had. I'm using Natty Narwhal, what's the package I need to install to get it back?02:10
cgc17is it possible to run an application from the terminal and have the terminal hide itself?02:10
Guest25773can i use chkconfig on ubuntu to make something as a service?02:10
knapolianI have a paid for license for Teamviewer as a support tech... It's a great tool.02:10
reisiosprung: what command did you run02:11
almoxarifesprung: the one you un-installed02:11
PatrickCwhat is the most lightweight (in size) text editor that compares to sublime text 2?02:11
reisiocgc17: what for?  What app?02:11
qinPatrickC: gvim, kate02:11
knapolianI use it on ubuntu workstation to connect to Windows servers, workstations, other linux workstations.02:11
PatrickCqin: thx02:12
almoxarifecgc17: alt f2?02:12
reisioPatrickC: it won't be gVim02:12
Brad87FUCK02:12
Brad87SHIT02:12
Brad87FUCK02:12
FloodBot1Brad87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:12
qin!ops02:12
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, or rww!02:12
reisioBrad87: no more Carlin for you02:12
cgc17reisio, as an example I ran this instance of XChat through the terminal and now I can't close the terminal02:12
almoxarifecgc17: kill the terminal02:13
PatrickCreisio: what would it be?02:13
fructosealmoxarife: Google calls it an 'app', but it's contact is extensions@chromium.org and you have to "Add to Chrome". So it's far from built-in and it's commonly called an extension (see Google search results)02:13
reisioPatrickC: not sure02:13
xpressreisio02:13
PatrickCwow. kate is out. 244MB02:13
almoxarifefructose: glad to help, have a nice dat02:13
almoxarifeday02:13
xpresscan u help me :D ?02:13
reisioPatrickC: Kate is a KDE app =P02:14
reisioxpress: hi02:14
xpresshi =)02:14
PatrickCreisio: lol02:14
xpressam02:14
xpressreisio02:14
PatrickCI'm looking for a lightweight in size text editor that would be good for a coder02:14
xpresshow can i write to you ^02:14
reisioxpress: that's my name02:14
reisioxpress: like that?02:14
xpress^^02:14
xpressyes02:14
reisioPatrickC: but you're used to sublime text?02:14
PatrickCyep02:15
qinPatrickC: kate need KDE, hence 244MB, gvim have gnome support, but you need few moment to comprehend and absorb its power.02:15
reisioPatrickC: you know it's available for Linux, right?02:15
PatrickCI can't get sublime to launch on this device02:15
xpressreisio: ^^02:15
cgc17almoxarife, killing the terminal closed my XChat session as well02:15
almoxarifefructose: didn't say it was built in, but I did say you would need chrome, you asked a question I offered a suggestion avail to a ubuntu user02:15
reisioxpress: hi02:15
ti-prgmrwhat about using geany? or is it to heavy?02:15
PatrickCI'm running ubuntu on my TouchPad in a chroot02:15
SIFTUPatrickC: what about just plain old vim02:15
PatrickCSIFTU: I never liked vim.. idk why02:15
xpresswell ? :D can u help me ?02:15
sprungreisio, almoxarife if it were that easy I wouldn't be in this channel. this happened several months ago, and I am only now realizing that /var/log/messages is empty02:15
reisioPatrickC: because you're a GUI person02:15
SIFTUPatrickC: well ok, but it's highly configurable02:16
PatrickCyep02:16
reisiosprung: ah02:16
qincgc17: Run xchat, Ctrl-z, detach %1, voila.02:16
almoxarifecgc17: it would02:16
reisioqin: detach?02:16
PatrickCgedit will work02:16
PatrickCthx02:16
SIFTUPatrickC: all the gui ones have lots of dependancies02:16
SIFTUPatrickC: leafpad is lighter if you just want a plain old text editor02:17
qinreisio: hm?02:17
PatrickCgedit is light enough02:17
almoxarifeI am a GUI person, if I wanted it difficult I would homestead in alaska02:17
reisiocgc17: ALT+F2 is the run dialog02:17
PatrickCI want something that would be good for a coder02:17
qinreisio: disown, damn aliases ;)02:17
PatrickCI develop apps/build websites :)02:17
reisioqin: ah :)02:17
qincgc17: /detach/disown/02:17
reisioqin: that doesn't freeze the process?02:18
SIFTUreisio: what about launching xchat like "xchat &"02:18
reisiowell he can just use ALT+F202:18
qinreisio: More complex, yes, may crash xchat.02:18
cgc17reisio, Alt+F2 will work.02:19
xpressreisio will u help me or not ^^?02:19
reisiofor when you really need to free up a term, there's dupx or reptyr02:19
reisioxpress: what's up?02:19
xpresswell02:20
xpresslisten02:20
ubiq2hey. listen.02:20
almoxarifereisio: I like terminator, I use it in a ssh x11 session now, I can open terms till the cows come in02:20
qinPatrickC: Finding right tool to work, mean (often) to learn how to use it. Knowing vim will help you to work remotly.02:20
reisioalmoxarife: yeah, but that's foresight in action :)02:21
almoxarifereisio: the next best thing to gui02:21
reisiotoo bad terminator doesn't use screen transparently, too02:21
xpressi have installed ubuntu i was having windows 7 =) so.. the problem is that the wi-fi connection under windows 7 was normal but here under ubuntu a times it just stops and i have to exit from the wi-fi and enter again .. so do you know how to fix it =) ?02:21
reisioxpress: update the driver02:22
xpresshow :D '02:22
illmortalanyone know if there's a timer plug-in for gucview? Need a webcam application for my Logitech Web Cam Pro 9000 that has a built in timer to snap a picture02:22
xpress?¿02:22
PatrickCqin: work remotely?02:22
almoxarifereisio: transparency?02:22
reisioently02:22
almoxarifereisio: explain02:22
qinPatrickC: on webserver via ssh (for instant fixes i.e.)02:22
reisioillmortal: sleep or at in a terminal would do it02:23
xpressreisio: i said that i am new on linux :P02:23
reisioxpress: oh02:23
reisioxpress: what's the device?02:23
PatrickCqin: really? hmm..02:23
PatrickCI might try vim02:23
xpressreisio: i really dont have a idea ^^02:23
xpressreisio: how to look it ? =)02:23
reisioVim just takes some learning to really exploit it02:23
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reisionot a lot to just be able to use it for maintenance, though02:23
qinPatrickC: Hint: zencoding is must have plugin for html, css.02:24
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reisioxpress: you could try opening a terminal and running 'sudo lspci -k', then look for the device name and possibly driver name02:24
dhasenan_I've got a problem that I kinda solved...video card (nVidia) crashing rather often, to the point where restarting X does nothing.02:24
illmortalreisio: in a terminal? o.O;02:24
PatrickCqin: what about JS? any recommendation for that?02:24
ubiq2lol02:24
dhasenan_Disabling frequency scaling makes it more stable.02:24
reisioillmortal: heh02:24
dhasenan_Curious if there's a better solution.02:25
illmortalyou mean use the terminal as my camera application?02:25
illmortalreisio ^02:25
qinPatrickC: Not on time with javascript, check vim plugins, there is for sure one for json/jquery.02:25
xpressreisio:Kernel modules: tg302:25
xpress08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)02:25
xpressSubsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device e03402:25
xpressKernel driver in use: ath9k02:25
xpressKernel modules: ath9k02:25
FloodBot1xpress: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:25
xpress... ^^02:26
almoxarifeFoxconn are evil doers02:26
xpressreisio: u saw that ? :D02:26
reisioxpress: yeah02:27
xpressreisio: and how to do it ^02:27
PatrickCqin: vim is cmd line?02:28
reisioPatrickC: yes02:28
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reisiothere's a GUI, gVim02:28
qinPatrickC: vim, yes. gvim is "enriched" for gui.02:28
reisiobut it's actually less useful in the GUI form :p02:28
reisiobecause you can't quickly drop to a terminal02:28
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PatrickClol02:28
reisioit'll hit you one day :)02:29
xpressreisio: what i do ? ^^02:29
reisioxpress: what's your kernel version?02:29
Ibisxpress: uname -r02:29
xpressath9k02:30
xpressaa02:30
xpressw8 ^^02:30
xpress2.6.38-11-generic02:30
reisioyou could try using madwifi instead of ath9k02:30
xpresssec02:31
xpresshow to get it ?02:31
xpressapt-get ?02:31
reisiothat's a good question02:32
ahattarhi, my sound on the laptop does not work Lenovo x61, Ubuntu 10.402:32
PatrickCwell, vim in cmd line is confusing :P02:32
xpress:D you dont know ? :D02:32
xpressahattar: i had the same problem with the sound02:32
reisioxpress: presumably like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi#Compile_Newer_Driver02:33
ahattarxpress How to fix it02:33
Jordan_UPatrickC: "vimtutor" is a great way to learn.02:33
xpresssec02:33
almoxarifeahattar: stopped working or never worked?02:33
SinghamPatrickC : Ucan also use nano ...Its simple to use it.02:33
ahattarnever worked02:33
xpressahattar: just install alsamixer and set you internal mic =)02:34
PatrickCSingham: I've used nano before02:34
PatrickCits nice02:34
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xpressreisio: now i get this with wget no ?02:34
almoxarifeahattar: new install?02:34
ubiq2xpress: yes02:34
reisioxpress: it has instructions on the page02:35
PatrickCI don't have an esc key.. that'll put a damper on things02:35
xpressreisio: u're great man =)02:35
xpressubiq2: you too :D02:35
ubiq2:) i had the same problem and madwifi fixd it02:36
xpressthanks man02:37
xpress=)02:37
xpressi hope02:37
xpressthat it will fix and mine too02:37
qinPatrickC: Ctrl-[02:37
xpressahattar: well is it works ?02:38
xanguareisio: xpress madwidi is deprecated02:38
PatrickCqin: for?02:38
qinPatrickC: Insdead of Esc02:38
BryGuy71what channel is the ubuntu general chat?02:38
PatrickCreally? cool!02:38
qin*instead02:38
BryGuy71and how do i switch chanels from here again?02:39
qinBryGuy71: /join #ubuntu-offtopic , What client are you using?02:39
somsipPatrickC: other popular choice to map is ;;02:39
ubiq2BryGuy: depends on what program you're using?02:39
caotichey im  getting a dmesg wlan0: deauthenticating by local choice every time i try to connect to my wifi AP. Anyone know how can I fix this ? I havent found a solid solution yet02:39
ahattarinstalled gnome-alsamixer and the sound still not working02:40
jdannais there any way to change the aspect of a touchpad? on my dell mini9 it seems to move the mouse much faster horizontally then vertically and its making me insane02:40
reisioxangua: lots of things are02:40
SIFTUPatrickC: javascript for vim http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=149102:41
eladif an untrusted domain keeps trying to send mail through my mailserver what are some things that I can check to see if they have been successful in sending mail with my server?02:41
PatrickCSIFTU: I'm sticking with gedit... vim doesn't look as easy as I want :)02:41
SIFTUPatrickC: isnt gedit about as advanced as notepad?02:41
reisiolightyears more advanced02:42
reisionot saying much, though02:42
qinSIFTU: No, it has tabs.02:42
PatrickCSIFTU: it has tabs02:42
PatrickCand syntax highlighting02:42
SIFTUlol ok tabs02:42
reisioit's a real text editor02:42
ubiq2dat tabs :)02:42
reisionot in Vim's class, but still02:42
ShirakawasunaSIFTU: Did you know that gedit has tabs?02:42
somsipPatrickC: got to say, I used gedit for casual editing, and qin recommended gvim to me. I was okay with vi on cli. Many things are incredibly useful, but some things are still awkward after 3 weeks. It seems worth persevering with, to me, for the advantages02:42
goldenfoxhello everyone02:42
Rafalskihey guys.. so i'm running ubuntu 8.04 on the server.. what's the best way to upgrading to the latest production ready release?02:42
ubiq2hey there02:42
reisiohi goldenfox02:43
SIFTUShirakawasuna: i think i heard somewhere it might have tabs02:43
kdpI am having a bit of trouble rotating my consoles, and I hope that you folks might be able to point me in the right direction. I have physically rotated my display into portrait mode, and have adjusted X to rotate the display correctly, but boot messages and all TTYs are still in their original orientation. I have tried passing fbcon=rotate:3 on boot, and have tried writing "3" to /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate[_all] to no effect. Any ideas? I think fbcon is ena02:43
PatrickCsomsip: is it really that goos?02:43
PatrickCgood*02:43
xpressreisio: is it wrong if i skip sudo make with sudo make install :D couse i did it and i dont know if this will make any defects on the program ?02:43
somsipPatrickC: navigation, searching, jumping around lines...really, really useful. I use Netbeans and added the Vim plugin for that.02:43
Shirakawasunasomething that *is* basically notepad is mousepad02:43
reisioxpress: wrong :)02:43
qinRafalski: Only 10.04 Lts02:43
PatrickCI'll give it a try02:43
xpressreisio: so how can i fix it ?02:44
Rafalskiqin: what's the best way of upgrading?02:44
SIFTUShirakawasuna: and leafpad02:44
reisioxpress: just go back and do it all in the right order this time02:44
PatrickCsomsip: does the tutor really help?02:44
xpressreisio: ok thanks02:44
qinRafalski: Do you have do-release-upgrade ?02:44
somsipPatrickC: but if you have background, it may feel weird. I'm undoing 30 years of habits, including a very bad typing style. So maybe it will come easier for you.02:44
Rafalskiqin: not sure, a linux noob here02:44
reisioPatrickC: yeah it's okay02:44
somsipPatrickC: I am running through it regularly until I don't have to think about the commands. Still can't do search replace easily though...02:45
reisioPatrickC: but to not have to use the mouse will take quite a fair amount of time educating yourself02:45
PatrickChmm.. ok02:45
reisioworth it, though02:45
PatrickCyeah.. using it on a touchscreen.. worth it?02:45
kdpPatrickC: I think the best way to learn a new editor is to force yourself to use. For everything.02:45
SIFTUsomsip: did you run through vimtutor02:45
PatrickCits a HP TouchPad02:45
reisiosee #vim's /topic02:45
somsipSIFTU: a number of times02:45
qinRafalski: Is it your own system or vps?02:45
Rafalskiqin: own, got root to it02:46
goldenfoxi would like to ask here if openprinting.org website is working on your side?02:46
reisiohttp://isup.me/openprinting.org02:46
SIFTUsomsip: yeah I guess it takes some getting used to, but it's so widely used I can go anywhere I know I have it. unlike the GUI editors02:46
qinRafalski: I mean, are you sitting next to it?02:46
somsipgoldenfox: down for maintenance here02:46
Rafalskiqin: no02:46
goldenfoxthanks, reisio02:46
goldenfoxthanks somsip02:46
reisionot sure it was ever up :p02:47
reisiogoldenfox: looking for something?02:47
goldenfoxanybody here had grab the foomatic-4.0.6 from openprinting?02:47
somsipSIFTU: I've been able to use it for years, but not really *use it*, IYSWIM.02:47
reisiogoldenfox: which foomatic?02:47
Untitled_onlyI'm having problems with unity02:47
Untitled_onlyit really sucks02:48
ubiq2Untitled_only: which probs?02:48
reisiodon't use it02:48
qinRafalski: If you run it on own hardware: do-release-upgrade, if not, contact your provider to upgrade image.02:48
PatrickCUntitled_only: in the beginning, at the login screen, select ubuntu clasic02:48
Untitled_onlyit wont load when I downloaded it02:48
xpressreisio: root@xpress:/usr/src/madwifi-ng# wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta ..wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device02:49
goldenfoxreisio, foomatic-rip 4.0.6.dmg02:49
xpressreisio: :S02:49
PatrickCUntitled_only: don't download it02:49
Untitled_onlyI just un-installed it02:49
reisiorip?02:49
reisiothat's a new one to me02:49
kdpUntitled_only: So, are you having difficulty running Unity? If so, please provide more information about the issue you are experiencing.02:50
reisiogoldenfox: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/macosxfoomatic02:50
goldenfoxyup the rip one02:50
xpressreisio: please that is the ultimate question ^^02:50
xpressreisiot: root@xpress:/usr/src/madwifi-ng# wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta02:51
xpresswlanconfig: ioctl: No such device02:51
Untitled_onlywell I tried to run it on my notebook, which has a nvida graphic card02:51
reisioxpress: probably referring to 'ath0' or 'wifi0'02:51
goldenfoxthanks for the help reisio, it looks like the site is down02:51
Untitled_onlycairo dock works way better... tho02:51
goldenfoxneed to find another copy from other sources02:52
BryGuy71qin i am using xchat, and i forget everything about how to use irc02:52
reisiogoldenfox: oh it's a redirect, ha02:52
reisiogoldenfox: http://web.archive.org/web/20110615232938/http://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/macosx/foomatic-rip-4.0.6.230.dmg02:52
xpressreisio: noo :/ the problem is (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device)02:52
reisioxpress: I saw02:53
xpressand how i fic it02:53
xpress^^02:53
xpressfix*02:53
BryGuy71i put in the code / join ubuntu - off topic02:53
BryGuy71but without the spaces02:53
BryGuy71nothing happened02:53
reisioxpress: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7775312&postcount=302:53
qinBryGuy71: /help and there is #xchat on freenode. /join #ubuntu-offtopic02:53
kdpBryGuy71: don't forget the #02:53
ubiq2BryGuy: "#"02:53
BryGuy71thanks02:54
kdp<slash>join #ubuntu02:54
BryGuy71got it02:54
goldenfoxomg, you hit the jackpot reisio02:54
goldenfoxhow did you do that?02:54
BryGuy71dont want to annoy or troll here02:54
PatrickCwell, thanks for all the help guys!02:54
BryGuy71i have alot of user ex[erience with ubuntu, and understand the annoyances02:54
reisiogoldenfox: magick02:54
goldenfoxthanks again, reisio. I never imagined archive.org will copy the installers too =)02:55
BryGuy71ty kdp02:55
reisiogoldenfox: :D02:55
reisiogoldenfox: I'm sure it's available elsewhere as well02:55
Islamwhere can I find the files for my installed programs like pidgin ?02:56
qinBryGuy71: Dont you want to use irssi, instead of xchat?02:56
reisioIslam: dpkg -L pidgin02:56
goldenfoxreisio: yeah but google is out of answers02:56
kdpirssi all the way!02:56
ubiq2irssi!02:56
xpressreisio: i cant fix it :/... can u explain please :S02:56
ubiq2the best02:56
reisiogoldenfox: yeah the Mac OS copies do seem to be unpopular02:56
qinIslam: dpkg -L pigdin02:56
xgpthello, quiick question, what's the package name that provides the functionality that gives the "this package isn't installed, install with apt-get packagename to install" ?02:56
xgptdialog02:57
reisiowasn't there a simpler way to send '/foo' in irssi than /exec -out echo '/foo' ?02:57
kdpSo, any ideas, folks? I am pretty stumped here. I suppose I don't /need/ to use the TTYs, but since my display is permanently rotated I would like to rotate those things as well.02:57
qinreisio:  /foo02:57
kdp\/foo02:58
kdphmm02:58
kdp /foo02:58
kdpHa! space in front.02:58
FloodBot1kdp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:58
IslamI want to add it to the startup programs, n I dont know what to type in the command tap02:58
Islamthe pidgin02:58
reisioqin: no, not /foo, but:02:58
reisio/foo02:58
Islamwhat command should I use to add pidgin to the startup programs ?02:59
qin/foo02:59
IslamI'm opening the startup programs but I done know what to type in the command tap03:00
reisiogoldenfox: is it for an HP?03:00
qin/foo03:01
qinreisio: /msg #ubuntu /foo03:01
reisioah03:01
reisiothanks :D03:01
xpressreisio: can u help me for last mann :S03:02
reisiofor what?03:03
xpressreisio: wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device03:03
xpress;(03:03
thenickpersonCan someone please help me out with an audio issue?03:03
reisiothenickperson: uhuh03:03
bastidrazorIslam: /usr/bin/pidgin  is the normal path for pidgin03:03
reisioxpress: did you see the forum post I linked to?03:03
xpressreisio: yes but i dont understand :D03:04
kdpIslam: maybe /usr/local/bin/pidgin. You would do best to use `which pidgin` to get the path03:04
IslamI'm opening the startup programs and I wanna add pidgin to the startup programs, n its asking me for the command03:04
xpressreisio: i said i use linux from 1 day :P so ...03:04
thenickpersonreisio: My system's audio in Ubuntu had weird issues before, and at one point wouldn't play audio at all. After updating sound software, that problem is solved now, but whenever I plug in headphones (anything into the audio out), audio plays though both my headphones and my speakers. How can I make it just play via my headphones if they're plugged in?03:04
kdpIslam: open a terminal; type `which pidgin`; enter the path into the Startup Programs dialog.03:05
xanguaIslam: the command is pidgin03:05
reisioxpress: grep -ilr madwifi /etc/ | sort | uniq03:05
xpressand later ?03:05
reisiothenickperson: laptop?03:05
thenickpersonreisio: Yes.03:06
aamit1hey  guys I was just here yesterday with a question about installing lamp on my laptop and now I'm having some problems running some really plain php file here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/706440/, and when I open it (or run it since I'm doing it in netbeans) there's no output03:06
fullmetalaamit1: are you running it from http://localhost ?03:06
aamit1fullmetal: I'm not entirely sure what you mean - the file path is localhost/something/something/index1.php03:07
xpressreisio: and later show this --> root@xpress:/usr/src/madwifi-ng# grep -ilr madwifi /etc/ | sort | uniq03:07
xpressgrep: /etc/blkid.tab: No existe el fichero o el directorio03:07
xpress/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf03:07
xpress/etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh03:07
xpress:/03:08
xpressbalgari ima li ?03:08
aamit1fullmetal: I can get stuff like echo "String" or echo $variable (with variable being some variable) to output, but if I were to do something like print ("String") again I get nothing03:08
aamit1fullmetal: something to do with not recognizing return values or something?03:08
fullmetalaamit1: what i mean is php scripts only run when on a server. you have to access it like it is from a server. jsut running the local file will not execute it.03:08
fullmetalok03:09
xpressreisio: ... :/03:09
thenickpersonreisio: Do you kno what I could try to do to fix it?03:09
fullmetalso you have a working php test page03:09
fullmetal?03:09
reisiofullmetal: actually there are ways to run php as an ordinary script03:09
reisiobut yeah it might not work as intended03:09
aamit1fullmetal: if I just echo "Hello World" that displays...03:09
fullmetalaamit1: ok03:09
flynnUbuntu 10.10 freezes literally every other time I start up.03:10
reisiothenickperson: you probably just need to feed ALSA a more specific "model"03:10
reisiothenickperson: what model is it?03:10
thenickpersonreisio: What, my Laptop?03:10
aamit1fullmetal: so I'm not entirely sure what's going wrong here...03:10
reisiothenickperson: yeah03:10
fullmetalaamit1: can you do a pastebin of your non-working file?03:10
Islamthanx guys, its /usr/bin/pidgin03:10
aamit1fullmetal: same as earlier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/706440/03:10
fullmetalwas not on... checking03:11
thenickpersonreisio: http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/emachines-e627-5019-athlon/1707-3121_7-33893704.html03:11
nbest Hello.  How can I get ubuntu to confirm file delete??03:11
thenickpersonreisio: eMachines E62703:11
xpressreisio: man can u help me ?03:11
thenickpersonnbest: In RM?03:11
nbest i have lucid03:11
qinnbest: rm -iv03:11
thenickpersonnbest: Or nautilus, the file browser?03:11
nbest i don't know what rm is03:11
nbest  the file browser03:11
thenickpersonnbest: Are you asking for how to do this on the command line or desktop?03:11
thenickpersonnbest: Oh, okay03:12
nbest  the easiest way thenickperson03:12
thenickpersonnbest: Ubuntu should move files to the trash before deleting them. Just look for files int he trash if you want to recover them. Is that what you wanted?03:12
fullmetalaamit1: try it as just a php page... does it execute?03:12
thenickpersonnbest: Or do you want it to confirm if you want to empty the trash?03:12
aamit1fullmetal: you mean just remove the html tags and reopen it?03:13
fullmetalyep03:13
fullmetalbut with the .php extension03:13
nbest yes i know i can search for them in the trash but i'd rather not have to search the trash all the time for files i didn't even know i accidentally deleted , i'd rather have a confirm file delete, much rather :P03:13
reisiothenickperson: what does sudo lspci | grep -i audio say the device is03:13
fullmetaljust an idea but it may be because your calling a variable and not inserting it into a string03:13
RootsBabiloniahello guys03:13
reisiohi03:14
aamit1fullmetal: when I open a file with these contents - http://paste.ubuntu.com/706444/03:14
qinnbest: After: Shift-Del there is prompt, by default, Del alone send files to wastebasket03:14
Lithos84RootsBabilonia: Hello.03:14
aamit1fullmetal: it only shows the Hello World03:14
jdannais there a way to make the gnome panels not cover full screen programs?03:14
aamit1fullmetal: ignore the garbage strings on top and bottom the pastebin complained about php03:14
thenickperson reisio: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)03:14
fullmetalno rename the .html file to .php and clear the html tags03:14
xpressreisio: man please ... ?03:14
reisioxpress: please what?03:14
aamit1fullmetal: it already is a .php file with no html tags?03:15
nbest  qin , yes i know but i'd rather pressing delete opens up a confirm dialog, because i may send files to the garbage bin without being aware, the delete key is close to the up arrow03:15
fullmetalthen you should not be getting a hello world from a time call functino03:15
fullmetalfunction*03:15
reisiothenickperson: here read through this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto03:16
nbest  i dont' always want to be having to check the garbage bin just in case i accidentally sent files there , i wish i could have a way that pressing delete would open up a confirm file delete dialog03:16
RootsBabiloniasomeone speak portugues?03:16
reisiothenickperson: you probably just need the right model= value03:16
xpressreisio :  you said to put this (grep -ilr madwifi /etc/ | sort | uniq) and show me this (grep: /etc/blkid.tab: No existe el fichero o el directorio) ...03:16
RootsBabiloniaalgum brasileiro aqui?03:16
aamit1fullmetal: well I had 2 print statements - hello world and the second one with longdate(time())03:16
xpressyo :P03:16
reisioRootsBabilonia: #ubuntu-br, #ubuntu-pt03:16
xpresspero si sabes español mejor :D03:16
thenickpersonreisio: Thanks!03:16
aamit1fullmetal: when I open index.php file with these contents - http://paste.ubuntu.com/706447/ still only get "hello world" displayed03:17
fullmetalaamit1: pm me03:17
RootsBabiloniasi te comprendo!03:17
qinnbest: No such feature in options, you could point it on brainstorm, as you have valid point.03:17
RootsBabiloniaheheh03:17
reisioaeoueaouaeou03:17
xpress:D :P03:17
Lithos84!br | RootsBabilonia03:17
ubottuRootsBabilonia: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.03:17
thenickpersonreisio: What part of this guide should I be looking at exactly?03:17
xpressno le escuches ! :D03:17
RootsBabiloniamuito obrigado BOT amigo!!!03:17
reisiothenickperson: reading it all won't hurt :p03:17
RootsBabilonia;)03:17
xpressaa :D03:18
nbest qin  yea, i've googled this before asking and i've seen a few mentions of it there, but no solutions yet, since many posts were years old , i was hoping they have done that by now :(  thanks for resonding though03:18
reisiothenickperson: but the important part is going to be editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to have something like 'options snd-hda-intel model=HD-Audio', etc.03:18
xpressRootsBabilonia: tio sabes como ajustar el puto madwifi .. ?03:18
qinnbest: Propably changing keybinding is only way for now.03:19
nbest oh , interesting thought, thanks :)03:19
xpressreisio: will u help to the man who dont know nothing about linux :S ?03:20
reisioI've gtg, someone else will help you out03:20
xpresswho ? :S03:20
ryannathansikonia: was I speaking to you the other day?03:20
xpresswho can help me ?03:21
xpressplease ?03:21
ryannathanswhachu need03:21
xpressman i try to install madwifi03:21
xpressand03:21
xpressshows me wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device03:21
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ryannathansxpress: what driver do you need from em?03:22
xpressdont have a idea ... how to look ?03:22
ryannathansxpress: what's your initial problem to want to install this?03:23
xpressaa :D03:23
xpresssry for my english w803:23
ubiq2xpress: im sure you could fix it yourself. learn command line basics and google google google. i fixed this problem without irc-help and learned alot about linux. just saying03:23
xpresswlanconfig ath0 create wlandev mon0 wlanmode sta03:23
xpressok =)03:23
xpressbut how to look if my net is not working ? =) just saying..03:23
ubiq2but how to irc when net not working? =)03:24
xpressi have to click exit and go to the network again between 1 min =) ...03:25
ubiq2ok that sucks03:25
ryannathansI've got this damn raid array from an adaptec 3805 I can't get anything linux installed to03:25
xpress:/03:25
ryannathansjust comes up as unformatted and doesn't partition, windows loved it tho'03:25
xpressubiq2: can you help ?03:26
ryannathansoh, I have been trying to   modprobe aacraid  but that doesn't seem to get me anywhere03:26
xpressuf .. :D i dont understand neither a word :D ... pf03:27
ubiq2probably. you could give me the link reisio gave to you.03:27
xpresshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7775312&postcount=303:27
xpresssure =)03:27
xpressubiq2: well ? ^^03:29
ectabyteI'm having this pretty annoying problem whenever I press the super key with another key(like B) it just disables that key and I can't press it without using the super or shift key03:29
ectabyteis this having to do with keybinds or something?03:30
flynnUbuntu 10.10 freezes literally every other time I start up.  No other symptoms.  just that.03:30
xpressand i cant install madwifi ... :D ..03:31
fullmetalxpress: what you trying to do with mad wifi?03:31
xpresssec03:31
dayana_emhi guyz, i have translation for empathy in .po format . but don't know how to install it03:31
ubiq2xpress: do you have 2 wifi devices?03:31
xpressyes03:31
xpressfullmetal:wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wlan0 wlanmode sta03:31
eiriksvinhey guys, remember earlier when I asked how to connect my ps3 to my computer, well I did it: you use an IPv4 Shared Connection03:31
xpressi mean03:31
xpresssec03:32
eiriksvinit's right in the connection options03:32
ubiq2xpress: so the command could be wlan1 not wlan003:32
xpresswlan003:32
xpressok i will check03:32
RenaKunisakihow to check installed versions of GTK and WX?03:33
xpressman03:33
eiriksvinsweet, now I'm pulling wifi with my PC and sharing the connection with my PS3s03:33
xpressubiq2 where i have to put wlan0 ^^03:33
jaidanHey all, I'm trying to upgrade a vps from karmic to natty and I ran into an error while running dist-upgrade and I'm not sure what to do about it: http://pastebin.com/cXmA96Ng03:34
xpressis there anybody who can help me ? :/03:35
daanishHey, guys. I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 using Wubi without a seperate partition. Can anyone tell me how to browse to the Windows files?03:35
eiriksvinxpress: what are trying to do?03:35
xpresseiriksvin: installing madwifi03:35
xpresseiriksvin: and when i have to put (wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta) shows me this (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device)03:37
eiriksvinxpress: sorry, I didn't use madwifi... I set my usb wifi dongle to run native03:37
xpressah ok ^^03:37
xpress..03:37
ubiq2xpress: i don't know which commands you've been executing but wlan0 could be your internal wlan chip and wlan1 an external wifi-stick. that means that you are reffering to the wrong device with specific commands.03:37
xpressman i wrong03:37
xpressi have only03:37
xpresswhan003:37
xpresswlan003:38
eiriksvinis your wifi usb?03:38
xpressno03:38
xpressis internal03:38
ubiq2ooh ok ;)03:38
xpressso can u help me ? :D03:39
fullmetal8-ball: can anyone help xpress03:39
fullmetalA question please.03:39
eiriksvinxpress: open a terminal and type ifconfig that will tell you where your internal wifi is03:40
eiriksvinit should be wlan003:40
xpressi have03:41
xpresswlan0 , lo , eth003:41
xpressbut internal .. :S03:41
ubiq2eiriksvin: he wants to replace ath9k with madwifi.03:41
ryannathansdriver isn't loaded03:42
xpresswhat i have to do ^^03:42
eiriksvinmadwifi has a bunch of tuts for it, try to take a look... I'd help you but idk the details of athero chipsets sorry03:43
xpressok thanks .. =)03:44
eiriksvinI don't want to be a jerk, but youtube and google are a Linux users ally03:44
eiriksvingod I hate it when people tell me that03:44
xpress:D ..03:45
jaidanHey all, I'm trying to upgrade a vps from karmic to natty and I ran into an error while running dist-upgrade and I'm not sure what to do about it: http://pastebin.com/cXmA96Ng....and I have googled it =)03:45
eiriksvinwifi and graphics cards are the linux devils03:45
binaryartsok i made my own spinnoff of ubuntu and i want a program to start on boot, how do i do that? PS there no /etc/innittab and my program is in /usr/bin/advancedbrowser03:45
ubiq2xpress: check out wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/madwifi03:47
binaryarts?03:47
eiriksvinTo all that are frustrated and needing help: sometime it takes time, but I have always found the answers I needed right in here... right time right place I guess03:48
cyphaubuntu won't start03:48
ryannathansUBUNTU WONT INSTALL03:48
daanisho_o03:48
eiriksvincypha: how was it installed?03:48
Jordan_U!caps | ryannathans03:48
ubotturyannathans: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:48
cyphaI basically put my rc.local back to it's default03:48
daanishOk, is the bumblebee project dead or something?03:48
ryannathans!* | ryannathans03:49
cyphaand now it won't start03:49
cyphaafter i restarted03:49
binaryartsquote "ok i made my own spinnoff of ubuntu and i want a program to start on boot, how do i do that? PS there no /etc/innittab and my program is in /usr/bin/advancedbrowser"03:49
Atreuswhy am i unable to change the screen birghtness percentage while on battery power though the power management?03:49
ryannathansthe noobs that use all caps and are very blunt get all the help03:49
daanishIs the bumblebee project dead?03:49
Jordan_U!noob | ryannathans03:49
ubotturyannathans: Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.03:49
daanishIs the bumblebee project dead?03:50
* ryannathans sets mode +bbq ryannathans03:50
cyphadr_willis, around?03:50
jaidanI figure (based on the fact that google turns up nothing but an unanswered irc log) that my issue must be pretty rare lol03:50
eiriksvintake it easy guys03:50
Jordan_Uryannathans: And no, they don't. I, being a volunteer, am put off by any attempts to try to game the system.03:51
qindaanish: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee , rather not.03:51
binaryartsthis pace is too full of n00bs03:51
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FloodBot1binaryarts: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:51
cyphawtf's going on03:51
beta0x64jaidan, I honestly have no clue.03:52
daanishqin : but it says there's two new projects - Ironhide and the "new" Bumblee-project . . . and I added the ppa to the new project but it can't find any ''bumblebee'' package when I apt-get install.03:52
qindaanish: sudo apt-get update03:52
jaidanbeta0x64: Either do I...never really ran into too many issues with apt (that I didn't cause).  So the fact that's it's just blowing up on some random package has left me lost03:53
daanishqin: holy crap, that worked.. do I need to install nvidia drivers before I install bumblebee or after?03:53
ryannathanswe can all me mad together03:53
qindaanish: Me, ati.03:53
beta0x64jaidan, I mean... are you doing anything funky with the keyboard? I really have no clue, I've never done a vps03:53
jaidanbeta0x64: I don't think so.  I mean it's just like any other server03:54
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DouglasKwhen I try to do a showmount <server IP>, I get "clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered".  I have reinstalled nfs-common, portmap and nfs-kernel-server03:54
winasdsdhkjsah03:54
jaidanIt has a crap load of stuff installed because it's the box I use for development so it has a lot of experiments....but messing with keyboard configs nope03:55
beta0x64jaidan, I mean obviously dpkg is trying to unpack a keyboard config .deb file but it is running into a problem overwriting console-setup03:55
xpressubiq2: look man xpress@xpress:~/.source$ wlanconfig ath003:55
xpress[status not implemented (yet). Spawning iwconfig...]03:55
xpressath0      No such device03:55
cyphaIf someone could troubleshoot why Ubuntu won't start anymore via TeamViewer, I'd be more than happy to buy them a 6-pack's worth on paypal03:56
DouglasKOr, is there a better channel to ask about nfs mount issues in?03:56
johzephinehey, i think i'm having issues with my wireless and wpa connections.  I get "bad password" regardless of whether or not the password is right.  I've tried removing / purging / etc network manager several times but it fixes things.  Help?03:56
jaidanbeta0x64: Any idea what I might google for or do to work around that type of issue (not specifically keyboard I guess).  I don't know enough about dpkg to really understand what I need to do to resolve the conflict03:56
beta0x64jaidan, you should google a good medication for your headache. I've no clue what to do. I feel like messing with console-setup is, like, uh, a bad idea :)03:57
Lithos84DouglasK: Have you tried #nfs ?03:57
beta0x64My guess is that it's some kind of permissions issue03:57
DouglasKLithos84, no ... but I will now, thanks or the thought.03:57
ubiq2xpress: sry i will leave in a few minutes. it's 6 am here in germany. you will solve it sooner or later. i believe in you man :)03:58
jaidanbeta0x64: lolol thanks, I'm a developer my desk comes equipped with lots of medications for headaches lol03:58
beta0x64jaidan, could it be time to grab everything of value and burn it down? :(03:58
qindaanish: You right, ironhide is more acctual.03:59
daanishis anyone here running bumblebee for optimus?03:59
scorinitronWhat do I do when I can't access the windows portion of my drive03:59
jaidanbeta0x64: that would be ALOT.  We're talking mongodb's, mysqldb's, postgresdb's,  50 or so source repos03:59
Lithos84!details | scorinitron04:00
ubottuscorinitron: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."04:00
beta0x64jaidan, fudgesicles. um. see, you should make sure you have a backup before upgrading like this imo04:00
xpressits 6 here too :D04:00
xpress...04:00
daanishanyone running bumblee for optimus?04:00
Matt_Hi04:00
Matt_I'm buying a new pc04:00
Matt_and need your suggestions04:00
jaidanbeta0x64: well nothing has actually broken yet...and nothing is really unreplaceable, just would take a day or two of lost billable hours which would suck04:00
Matt_should i type the specs here?04:01
jaidanit's a dev box not a production one04:01
ryannathansMatt_: pastebin04:01
scorinitronI made the mistake of installing ubuntu 10.04 on top of windows7 on a 500 GB drive. I went to the bar where I could determine how much space I wanted which os to occupy in GB04:01
mrmcgibby2Matt_ just ask your question04:01
daanishis anyone running bumblebee for optimus?04:01
Jordan_UMatt_: There are many companies that sell computers with Ubunut pre-installed.04:01
scorinitronand well I completed the installation but now grub won't run windows04:01
scorinitronnot to mention grub is the only thing that shows up04:01
ryannathansJordan_U: not availible in countires such as mine, or it's more viable to build your own04:01
zmbmartinI have an hp envy laptop with beats audio or whatever. My problem is the subwoofer is on when I have headphones plugged in. Any idea how to turn that off?04:02
beta0x64jaidan, backups are usually before it breaks. but regardless of how often you backup your development environment... you could try installing keyboard-configuration_1.57ubuntu20_all.deb manually04:02
beta0x64then maybe you will have a more specific error. or not. if it works though, maybe the updater will skip it?04:02
beta0x64jaidan, we are really in the dark here lol04:02
scorinitronI try to go to the windows loader 7 option and it starts off as windows but goes into ubuntu...now I have no idea how to reinstall windows since it won't auto boot when the disc is in...04:02
mrmcgibby2How do you get ubuntu to keep the console resolution that I set?  I see some stuff in the correct resolution but then it always switches back to 640x480 or something.04:02
scorinitronplz help T_T04:03
ryannathansscorinitron: is windows partition still there04:03
scorinitronryannathans, I'm not sure I guess it technically is04:03
Blue1i am getting weird flash problems on 64 bit ubuntu (10.10) - 64 bit chrome and 64 bit flash - works great on youtube and facebook - not so on sites like cbs.com (no issues with site on 32 bit system) suggestions?04:03
Jordan_U!bootinfo | scorinitron04:03
ubottuscorinitron: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).04:03
Matt_Thanks guys<04:04
Matt_here is my pc specs http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt04:04
ryannathanswhat raid solution works on BOTH windows and linux04:04
scorinitronSrry guys it's like my 2nd day using IRC I'm a total linux noob04:04
Jordan_Umrmcgibby2: How are you setting the console resolution? Are you using proprietary graphics drivers?04:04
daanishis anyone running bumblebee for optimus?04:04
beta0x64scorinitron, it's a learning experience04:04
ryannathansMatt_: looks fine, just have both windoze and linux on same hdd04:05
mrmcgibby2I'm currently using GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX in /etc/default/grub04:05
beta0x64scorinitron, I'm a developer who has been using linux based OSes for 4 years now, and I'm still a noob04:05
scorinitron^^04:05
scorinitronI just want to know what's what so at the very least I can get as good with terminal as I am with DOS04:05
scorinitronI'm 17 if that matters? lol04:06
Matt_ryannathans: but windows7 first then ubuntu? or ubuntu first then win7?04:06
Jordan_Uscorinitron: Have you done anything so far other than install Ubuntu using the automatic partitioning option?04:06
scorinitronWIN7 first of course04:06
beta0x64Matt_, Windows 7 must be installed first because as a rule, Windows is greedy.04:07
scorinitronI made that mistake once04:07
Matt_I'm buying a new custom pc, here is my pc specs http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt What everybody advice.04:07
daanishis anyone running bumblebee for optimus?04:07
ryannathansMatt_: win7 first04:07
Matt_ryannathans thanks,  is configuration good?04:07
scorinitronJordan_U, um not really...I was learning about tor and socks04:08
scorinitronXD04:08
jaidanbeta0x64: no dice =( same error when trying to install it directly.  I was hopeful04:08
daanishdamn nvidia optimus >_______<04:08
Matt_Hey everyone, please take a look at my specs, and suggest me http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt04:08
ryannathansMatt_: build is okay depending on ram and video card04:08
Jordan_Uscorinitron: Do you understand the instructions ubottu linked you to for running boot info script?04:08
scorinitronJordan_U, let me take a look04:09
Matt_ryannathans: but 4gb ddr3 ram is good right?04:09
paulus68Matt_: you can also install ubuntu and use W7 in virtualbox04:09
scorinitronyeah04:09
daanishqin: How do I run bumblebee? I just installed it but I don't see it in the applications?04:09
beta0x64jaidan, I am thinking, let's follow these instructions. they look well and official https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure04:09
daanishqin: is bumblee cli only?04:09
PsyCl0neHi all04:09
xpresshi =)04:10
Lithos84PsyCl0ne: Hello.04:10
xpresscan u help me ^^ ?04:10
scorinitronJordan_U, yeah I do...I did a little work with the terminal but as far as I can tell I just downlaod the zip and input the commands04:10
jaidanbeta0x64: let me take a look04:10
ryannathansMatt_: it's average today04:10
ryannathansMatt_: I have 8gb, but i run lots of stuff, 4gb is fine04:10
ryannathansgaming, working, etc04:11
xpressso can anybody helps ? :D04:11
scorinitronJordan_U, I am a little familier with the terminal I have been using ubuntu for like 5 months but I just now tried to reinstall and dual boot windows 7 today04:11
phlak_userryannathans: just out of curiosity, did you manage to install Ubuntu on your beast?04:11
daanishit is >_<04:11
Matt_ryannathans: my current pc is 2gb ram, 160gb hd, dual core processor,04:11
Lithos84!anyone | xpress04:11
ubottuxpress: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.04:11
zmbmartinIs there a way for me to tell if the headphones are plugged in or not on my laptop?04:12
Jordan_Uscorinitron: There is no zip file involved. Please follow the instructions and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that boot info script produces so that I can understand your exact configuration and help you get Windows booting again.04:12
PsyCl0neGuys I have a netbook (Acer D02553). Last week I got Lubuntu installed on it, also installed the restricted extras so I could watch youtube videos but now I can not adjust my volume... If I click the speaker icon in my task bar it says that no audio devices were found or that there are dependancies missing from gstreamer. But if I sudo apt-get check GStreamer it checks out. what am I doing wrong??04:12
Jordan_U!pastebin | scorinitron04:12
ryannathansphlak_user: no04:12
ubottuscorinitron: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:12
ryannathansphlak_user: it just finds my raid card as unpartitioned and can't partition it04:12
ryannathansphlak_user: i tried to   modprobe aacraid   but that did nothing04:13
xpressthanks bot =)04:13
xpressi am afk :P04:13
ryannathansphlak_user: i  don't know what to do anymore04:13
scorinitronJordan_U, ubottu, thanks guys I'll get right to it04:13
xpress( i mean ubottu and lithos84) ^^04:13
ryannathansMatt_: surely is a step up themn04:13
ryannathansMatt_: i5s are great04:13
Matt_ryannathans: i'm no way playing games and stuff, it is just for work. video & audio, So please everyone, take a look at this specs for final time and let me know if i should go ahead and purchase it, http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt ?04:13
Jordan_Uscorinitron: You're welcome (though ubottu is a bot :).04:13
Matt_ryannathans: thanks, what is your current config?04:14
thorn_window rendering is glitching badly on this system with 500 MB RAM, any suggestions?04:14
beta0x64thorn_, xfce? or terminal only04:14
tacomasterhello i am trying to make iwconfig not ask for a password with sudo so i went to visudo in command line and typed "%sudo ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/iwconfig" but then i run it again and i get asked for a password?04:14
ryannathansMatt_: my current config is overkill04:15
ryannathansMatt_: well, not for what i do04:15
ryannathansMatt_: for you it is ;)04:15
jaidanbeta0x64: lol any opinion on the likelyhood of this to trash my system: http://pastebin.com/zxg5yL8h04:15
thorn_beta0x64: I don't know, what's glitching is gnome terminal right now04:15
Matt_anybody else, please take a look at my question04:17
gyggreetings04:17
Matt_i'm no way playing games and stuff, it is just for work. video & audio, So please everyone, take a look at this specs for final time and let me know if i should go ahead and purchase it, http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt ?04:17
gyganyone there to help compile a program on natty narwahkll?04:17
thorn_beta0x64: any suggestions?04:17
beta0x64jaidan, those seem like extremely important packages ...04:17
Matt_i will not bother you guys after this04:17
beta0x64I am looking up what console_setup does exactly04:17
Jordan_Ujaidan: Try just running do not allow that. Try just "sudo apt-get -f install".04:17
jaidanJordan_U: been trying that, that was step one04:18
somsipMatt_: what was your original question?04:18
beta0x64jaidan, I wouldn't remove them basically04:18
tacomastergyg: if you need to manually compile a program make sure there are no ./config then make then sudo make install04:18
jaidanbeta0x64: That was kinda my thought04:18
Matt_somsip: i'm no way playing games and stuff, it is just for work. video & audio, So please everyone, take a look at this specs for final time and let me know if i should go ahead and purchase it, http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt ?04:18
jaidanbeta0x64: unfortunatly apt-get is now convinced it wants to remove those packages and nothing I tell it will change it's mind04:19
somsipMatt_: I would help, but that quesiton is a "how long's a piece of string" question. no answer makes sense outside of the context of your personal situation04:19
vanquish349is there a way i can boot up my computer to make it show grub04:19
thorn_Matt_: I think you'd be fine to install Ubuntu and run W7 in a virtual machine with those specs. That's what I would do if I were you. What do you need W7 for once a week?04:20
Jordan_UMatt_: None of those pieces of hardware are areas where you're likely to have issues with Ubuntu. Problem areas are generally Wireless, graphics card, sometimes sound card, and maybe others I'm forgetting.04:20
gygcould someone please help me to compile a program on 11.404:20
tacomastervanquish349: hit tab wile booting up04:20
gygim trying to compile OneSwarm04:20
vanquish349thanks04:20
tacomastergyg: if you will read up i already explained how to manually compile a program04:20
Lithos84Matt_: I think it is more than enough. Remember to install Windows first, or install it on a virtual machine.04:21
thorn_Matt_: don't dual boot. Use a virtual machine. That way you can access W7 without having to shut down.04:21
Jordan_UMatt_: I wouldn't buy anything without trying it with an Ubuntu LiveCD first if at all possible. Or checking the hardware compatability list (though just because something is not on the list does not neccessarily mean it's not going to work).04:22
scorinitronJordan_U, I got the results.txt file04:22
Jordan_U!hcl | Matt_04:22
ubottuMatt_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection04:22
beta0x64jaidan how are you? jesus04:22
gygtacomaster: thank you very much.i have already extracted the archive04:22
thorn_beta0x64: did you get my question?04:22
tacomastergyg: ok? then "make" then "sudo make install"04:22
Jordan_Uscorinitron: Please proide a link to its contents with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com04:22
vanquish349wierd it didnt work04:22
Matt_thorn_ > W7 for  http://sourceforge.net/projects/emailsender/ & Creating PSD04:22
jaidanbeta0x64: all this because wanting to try out neo4j and decided that was a good reason to get off this old distro lol04:22
tacomastervanquish349: start pushing tab once you see the bios screen04:23
scorinitronJordan_U, http://pastebin.com/BRa5ZL2104:23
thorn_psd?04:23
tacomastervanquish349: it goes by really fast04:23
thorn_photoshop files?04:23
beta0x64jaidan, can you reinstall the files ?04:23
gygtacomaster: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop04:23
Jordan_Uvanquish349: tacomaster: Hold shift to see the grub menu. Pressing tab will do nothing.04:23
Matt_So should i buy it?04:24
scorinitronJordan_U, dang it >_> I forgot it's my dad's comp not mine....04:24
jaidanbeta0x64: I didn't remove them, it looks like it wants to remove them because one of the commands in that guide removed the keyboard thing that was causing issues before04:24
Jordan_UMatt_: Like I already said, you haven't provided enough information.04:24
scorinitronJordan_U, all I would have to do is repeat the same steps and send you the link right?04:24
beta0x64yes it did04:24
Jordan_Uscorinitron: Yes.04:24
jaidanbeta0x64: those packages depend on it so now it wants them gone.  I tried reinstalling the keyboard thing, but no dice same overwriting error04:24
scorinitronJordan_U, alright give me a sec04:24
vanquish349Jordan_U: i will try that thanks04:25
thorn_Matt_: I wouldn't.04:25
vanquish34950 time i have restarted my computer04:25
Matt_thorn_ > why not?04:25
Jordan_Uvanquish349: You're welcome.04:25
cyphacan someone help me troubleshoot why Ubuntu is not starting?04:25
cyphaI have ALL my work on there04:25
thorn_I'd get more memory so I could have more comfort with my virtual machine04:25
beta0x64jaidan, I believe it tries to remove packages that aren't needed any longer. they were used as dependencies according to apt-get04:25
cyphaI would REALLY appreciate some help!04:26
vanquish349i think shift worked04:26
beta0x64jaidan, run man then hit /autoremove enter and then hit n04:26
Jordan_Ucypha: What happens when you try to boot?04:26
cyphaJordan_U: http://i.imgur.com/KvsZC.png04:26
thorn_and a nvidia video card would probably help me a bit...04:26
cyphaJordan_U, the last thing I did was uninstall the package that setxkbmap is in from synaptic04:26
jaidanbeta0x64: I'm considering trying to force the .deb to install04:26
cyphaand I removed the lines regarding "setxkbmap -option" that I had added to rc.local04:27
jaidanbeta0x64: by using --force-overwrite04:27
cyphabecause somehow, even though I had commented the line out in rc.local, the mapping wouldn't go away04:27
cyphawhich is why I uninstalled it + removed the line (which was anyway alreayd commented out) in rc.local04:28
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cyphaJordan_U ^^04:28
beta0x64jaidan try it. that sounds good.04:28
Jordan_Ucypha: You should have noticed that removing x11-xkb-utils also removed all of xorg and anything that depends on it.04:29
cyphaoh04:29
cyphawow04:29
cyphaJordan_U, what can I do now?04:29
jaidanbeta0x64: and...apt-get no longer wants to remove the world04:29
cyphaI'm in the recovery console or whatever, at the command line04:29
cyphaI have internet access04:29
beta0x64jaidan, try your upgrade04:29
jaidanbeta0x64: and.... it looks like dist-upgrade will complete now04:29
Jordan_Ucypha: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:29
cyphaJordan_U, should I just sudo aptitude install that package?04:30
cyphaJordan_U, I had removed the whole ubuntu-desktop???04:30
cyphaholy crap that's retarded04:30
jaidanbeta0x64: still doesn't mean that something isn't horribly broken so I guess it would be a good idea to back up the anything I really wouldn't want to try to recover04:30
jaidanlol04:30
jaidanfun night, teach me to decide it's a good time for a dist-upgrade04:31
Jordan_Ucypha: Please don't use "retarded" as a derogatory term.04:31
thorn_sudo goodbye!!!04:32
daanishI just installed 11.04 using Wubi on my Windows partition.. how do I browse to the windows files and stuff?04:32
Jordan_Ucypha: You did basically remove the entire GUI, but don't be confused into thinking that removing "ubuntu-desktop" removes the entire desktop, it doesn't. (installing it however will re-install all packages that are installed in a default install of Ubuntu).04:32
daanishI just installed 11.04 using Wubi on my Windows partition.. how do I browse to the windows files and stuff?04:33
Jordan_Udaanish: Please don't repeat so quickly. You didn't even leave any time for anyone to respond.04:33
daanishJordan_U: Sorry >_<04:33
scorinitronHow do you activate the zoom feature in ubunut04:34
scorinitronmy dad's display is only showing half of the screen04:34
mrolandhello everyone!04:34
scorinitronand I need to get to resolution settings but can't see anything04:34
Jordan_Udaanish: Your Windows files are accessible via "/host/" or from nautilus the "host" directory in "Filesystem".04:34
daanishJordan_U: Oh, wow, thanks. Much appreciated!04:35
Jordan_Udaanish: You're welcome :)04:35
mroland<--- complete newbie here.  Can anyone help me figure out how to get my resolution to work?  Assistance would be greatly appreciated!04:35
daanishmroland Did you try going to System >> Administration?04:36
daanishThat's using the classic interface, not unity04:36
daanishIn unity, just click at the icon on the top left, and search for things like "Screen," "resolution," "nvidia," "monitor."04:36
cyphaJordan_U, YOU GENIOUS04:37
mrolandI believe I'm using classic04:37
cyphaworked04:37
mroland@ the top left: Applications04:37
daanishmroland: yes, that is classic04:37
cyphaJordan_U, followup question...how can I get setxkbmap to stop switching ctrl and capslock?04:37
mrolandin system >> administration there isn't anything about screens or displays04:37
gr33n7007hand windowz was my idea...04:38
daanishMroland: Ok, look in System >> Preferences04:38
daanishmroland:  There is "Monitors," in there..04:38
mrolandright, I get 'monitors'04:38
mrolandbut my screen resolution is 1336x76804:38
mrolandmacbook air 11inch ;)04:38
daanishmine is 1366 x 76804:38
daanishsamsung04:38
mrolandthat would be perfect!  how did you set it up?04:39
daanishum, I actually didn't do much at all to be honest, I just fresh installed ubuntu like 15 minutes ago.. all I did was install nvidia drivers..04:39
jmcantrellif i wanted to launch the default unity session in my xsession script, how would i do that?04:39
cyphaJordan_U?04:40
mrolandI wish it were that easy.  Problem is with the macbook air really.  Integrated Video Card04:40
daanishmroland: yes, apple and their proprietary hardware can be a pain to deal with at times.04:40
jaidanbeta0x64: thanks for your bud =)  looking good so far now04:40
daanishmroland: but it used to be similar for PCs' not too long ago.. I remember a time where every partition had to be manually mounted and SATA was actually causing boot errors in the good ol' ubuntu 6 days..04:41
mrolandI'm definitely paying the 'apple tax' indirectly.  Just trying to learn some Ruby on Shoes.  Linux was more open.04:41
daanishmroland: have you tried googling "mac air 11 ubuntu 11.04"?04:41
mrolanddaanish: funny thing..I have not :D04:41
daanishmroland: there are a lot of good tutorials on the internet concerning specific laptop makes that go through how to set your laptop up for best performance under ubuntu04:41
mrolanddaanish: time to go hunting.  Thanks for your solid efforts though!04:42
daanishmroland: Oh yes, programming on linux is much fun!04:42
daanishmroland: Not a problem, good luck! =]04:42
mrolanddaanish: do you program as well?04:42
daanishmroland: Not much, I just picked up a bit of Python recently, and I'm learning Java in school.04:42
daanishmroland: I have had bouts with lua but it was just scripts for a program, nothing that substantial.04:43
mrolanddaanish: awesome!  Where do you go to school?  For computer science?04:43
daanishmroland: I'm actually an international student at the community college of philadelphia at the moment.. I'm considering my options for transferring to a 4 year.04:43
mrolanddaanish: that's great!  I actually never finished my undergrad.  Went to film school - go figure04:44
daanishmroland: Steve Jobs always said to 'not settle,' until you find what you love!04:44
cyphacan someone help me get ubuntu to stop switchin ctrl and capslock????04:45
mrolanddaanish:  I'm all about that.  "Your life is limited, so don't waste it by trying to live someone else's life.  Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish."04:45
daanishcypha: that is extremely odd.. not to be a douche, but have you tried googling it?04:45
cyphadaanish, yeah04:45
daanishmroland: Indeed! =D04:45
cyphaand everyone just wants to switch them04:45
cyphai see no one with issues of unswitching them04:46
daanishmroland: It was sad because I read that speech at stanford like 2 days before he passed away.. I was just starting to appreciate the man. The tech world has suffered a huge loss.04:46
daanishcypha: figure out how to switch them, see if that'll work.04:46
mrolanddaanish: but through his death, he's sparked inspiration on a massive level.04:46
cyphadaanish, I can switch it at the commandline with "setxkbmap -option"04:47
cyphabut if I put that in rc.local, it does nothing04:47
cyphaanything regading setxkbmap I put in rc.local seems to do noething04:47
daanishcypha: that is extremely odd.. do the changes exist when you re-open rc.local04:47
daanish?04:47
cyphayes04:48
cyphai'm editing with priviledges04:48
daanishcypha: I'm sorry, I'm stumped. o_o04:48
cyphaeven if I put "firefox" in rc.local, it doesn't execute firefox on start04:48
cyphaany idea why that might be?04:48
Jordan_Ucypha: xkbmap by default modifies preferences of the X display it was run from. In the case of rc.local, there is no DISPLAY associated with the command.04:49
daanishcypha: Oh, I think I read something somewhere about rc.local not being the file that's read at startup anymore..04:49
msiso how come ubuntu 11.04 wouldnt install automaticly on my windows 7 pc. it set up the partitions perfectly but wouldnt install. i tried 3 times04:49
daanishcypha: maybe Jordan_U can help you out more, he seems to know what he's talking about.04:49
Jordan_Ucypha: Never put firefox in rc.local again. Anything run from rc.local is run as root, which can be very bad.04:49
daanishmsi: is the iso file fine?04:49
msiyes, i downloaded .iso file several times 64-bit version04:50
mrkrrtftok, who can help with 11.04 and nvidia issues?04:50
mrolanddaanish: I'll be back on later.  I'm going to try my luck with another install with 'nomodeset' as a parameter04:50
cyphaJordan_U, but initially, to make the capslock/ctrl switch stay btwn reboots, I put the "setxkbmap -option ctrl:capsswap" or whatever line in there04:50
cyphaand it worked04:50
mrkrrtfti've been struggling for about a week to get X to work with 11.04 and the nividia chip on my dell e640004:50
cyphait actually did make sure it was like that after any restart04:51
daanishmroland: okie doke, good luck!04:51
cyphajust that I can't undo it now04:51
cyphaand, btw, I only put firefox to test if rc.local was working04:51
Jordan_Ucypha: Whatever the reason, never put an application not intended to be run as root (most) in rc.local.04:51
cyphahowever, if I try echoing something to a .txt file using rc.local (in testing it), that does work04:52
msilooked like it was going to be an easy, perfect install on my second hard drive, it hunf g at the very end of the install process, and never installed anything04:52
YellowGTOHwy guys04:52
demonsporkahaha, the new xkcd might be funny to some of you pepole04:52
harry_Morning all..04:52
harry_:)04:52
demonsporkmrkrrtft, http://xkcd.com randall knows your troubles04:52
mrkrrtftevenin'04:52
Jordan_Ucypha: My guess is that it never had an effect. Something else was changed at the same time which did switch the keys, which is why removing the line from rc.local also had no effect.04:52
harry_Hey is there any channel for the InstallJammer's help???04:52
YellowGTOWhen using FTP to transfer files I get about 75MB/s when using Samba I get about 11ish04:52
YellowGTOWith EXT4 any ideas?04:52
cyphaJordan_U, how can I find out what's causing it?04:53
cyphawhat's causing the switch, that is04:53
Sidewinder1msi, Did you Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed?04:53
cyphai looked in .bashrc, didn't see it in there04:53
mrkrrtftOk, fresh install of 11.04 gives me and X Ubuntu Classic desktop.  If I try to configure multiple screens and reboot, then I get no display.  If I try to enable either the current, or the 173 Additional Drivers, I get a blank screen on reboot.  I'm stuck and can't get X  to load up at all.  Any suggestions?04:53
evildaemonHello, does anyone know a way to download apt packages to a specific directory without installing? (I know, WAY off  topic, but the action appears to be over...)04:53
Jordan_U!ot | demonspork04:54
ubottudemonspork: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:54
evildaemonUh, ignore those parentheses/04:54
mrkrrtftOk, fresh install of 11.04 gives me and X Ubuntu Classic desktop.  If I try to configure multiple screens and reboot, then I get no display.  If I try to enable either the current, or the 173 Additional Drivers, I get a blank screen on reboot.  I'm stuck and can't get X  to load up at all.  Does anyone have any suggestions?04:55
cyphaJordan_U, are there any packages in the ubuntu repo that I might have downloaded, which allow this functionality?04:56
msisidewinder1 ,didnt do any of that, did not burn at the slowest speed either04:56
cyphahonestly I don't remember if I did or didn't04:56
Jordan_Ucypha: I don't know.04:56
cyphaor if I modified any other file04:56
cyphahow would you troubleshoot this?04:56
Jordan_Ucypha: First I would try booting a liveCD of the same version of Ubuntu and see if the keys are still switched.04:57
mrkrrtftOk, fresh install of 11.04 gives me and X Ubuntu Classic desktop.  If I try to configure multiple screens and reboot, then I get no display.  If I try to enable either the current, or the 173 Additional Drivers, I get a blank screen on reboot.  I'm stuck and can't get X  to load up at all.  Anyone?04:57
cyphaJordan_U, I'm on a vbox (Ubuntu Guest, windows 7 host)04:57
cyphawindows 7 has no issues04:57
Jordan_Ucypha: I know.04:58
cyphaoh :)04:58
mrkrrtft!nvidia04:58
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto04:58
cyphathe live cd would be clean though, so I'm 99.9% sure it would not have the switch04:58
yagoocypha, u talking about "apt-cache policy <packagename>" ?04:58
cyphayagoo, no, I don't think so04:58
cyphaJordan_U, I should also mention that if I do "setxkbmap -option" at the command line, everything goes back to normal05:00
cypha...that's how to reset the kbmapping05:00
Jordan_Ucypha: As a work around you can run that at session startup then (meaning that it will not run as root and there will be a display associated with it, both good things). It's still worth trying a LiveCD as a test.05:01
RamtinAhello!what's the shortcut of log off?is it ctrl+shift+backspace?05:02
phlak_userRamtinA: its now ctl+Sysrq+backspace05:02
Jordan_Ucypha: System Settings > Startup Applications05:02
phlak_userRamtinA: earlier it used to be ctl-alt-backspace (though you can activate this back now)05:03
yagoocypha, you're having a problem with a meta key?05:03
cyphaJordan_U, I'm on openbox--> https://gist.github.com/f85aad2070b611dee22005:03
cyphayagoo, setxkbmap won't undo05:03
RamtinAphlak_user:Thanks.what's Sysrq?05:03
harry_Hey is there any channel for the InstallJammer's help???05:03
yagoocypha, meta key is Ctl, alt, SHift, ...05:03
Jordan_Uphlak_user: It would be alt+sysrq+k, and that would be a very ungentle killing of X rather than just "logging off".05:03
yagoocypha, since you're using vbox.. vbox probably interferes with a meta key (i know in vmware it can)05:03
phlak_userRamtinA: on my laptop, its the key between Pause and Insert (it has Prt Sc on top and SysRq below)05:04
rabbi1is there a channel for thunderbird ?05:04
cyphayagoo, I'm trying to use all default stuff05:04
yagoocypha, check in ur vbox settings..05:04
phlak_userJordan_U: you need to direct this at the OP -> RamtinA05:04
cyphaJordan_U, is it possible to get to the Keyboard/layouts tab from the command line?05:04
cyphato summon this window via CL05:04
cyphahttp://devlab.ca/?p=418805:04
ryannathansUBUNTU Y U WORK FOR05:04
RamtinAphlak_user:Thank you so much05:05
cyphaI remember opening that and setting something05:05
RamtinAphlak_user: but don't work for me05:05
Jordan_Uryannathans: I already warned you once about using all caps. Please don't do it again.05:05
yagoocypha, that may be a meta key for vbox.. vbox may be interfering with that..05:05
cyphayagoo, it's not05:05
private_metastop hilighting me >_<05:05
cyphawhy does "meta" highlight you?05:06
private_metaduh05:06
ryannathansI deleted my raid array, made it again, tried to format, it wouldn't format, unexpected errors, then i go and delete it again, I made it AGAIN (this time only a pissy 800GB) and it formats and works, can someone explain why I have NO control over a 1.87TB 'disk' but i have perfect control over a 800gb 'disk'05:06
phlak_userRamtinA: this will help -> http://www.hackourlife.com/enable-restart-x-server-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/05:06
cyphai mean, why would you have meta highlight you05:06
private_metaDUH05:06
cyphapeople would autocomplete in 201105:06
private_metano05:06
cyphaCan someone tell me how to get to this keyboard setup window from command line? http://devlab.ca/?p=418805:07
Jordan_Uprivate_meta: "meta" is a common enough word that you can't fault people for using it. Please either accept the inevitable extra highlights or configure your client to only highlight on your full nick.05:08
private_metaJordan_U: I'm fully aware of that, and I did, on both accounts :)05:09
BryGuy71 I pretty Ubuntu uch lov05:09
cyphaJordan_U, is it possible to get to http://devlab.ca/?p=4188 via the command line?05:10
BryGuy71iterestingslexic keyboard dy05:10
BryGuy71exactly05:10
ranjan_Hi all , does linux support 128 bit processors ???05:12
Jordan_U!ot | ranjan_05:12
ubotturanjan_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:12
ranjan_Jordan_U, then let me ask, do ubuntu support 128bit processors?05:13
yagooranjan_, of course05:13
Jordan_Uranjan_: No, Ubuntu does not support any architectures with 128 bit processors.05:13
ranjan_yagoo, :) Jordan_U said it doesnt :)05:14
yagooJordan_U, he's not asking abour architecture..05:14
yagoolol05:14
rabbi1is there a channel for thunderbird ?05:14
yagooranjan_, graphical processors!05:14
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meem1029I would imagine you could get linux of some sort to run on just about any processor though.05:15
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zaapielnetbsd runs on a toaster!05:16
ryannathansgreat support room.05:17
cyphaOk, looks like gnome-control-center from the command line summoned the necessary gui to edit keyboard settings05:18
cyphahowever, when I uncheck "swap control and caps lock", and exit and come back, it is still checked!05:18
yagoocypha, LOL05:19
ducati998is the currently available beta2 an OK choice for a non-critical user desktop? Is the upgrade path to stable-release--when available painless?05:20
yagoocypha, you said you were going to try cli!! LOL.. you can't?!!05:20
cyphaNo,  i said I needed to summon the gui from the command line05:20
yagoocypha, try using tape with the ctl key :)05:22
cyphaNo one with substantial ubuntu experience here?05:22
yagoolol05:22
yagooxrdb.05:22
yagoobut of course.. you can't do cli..05:22
coolfirehi05:22
PsyCl0neCan anyone help me diagnose why I can not hear anything on my netbook (D0255E)05:23
coolfirehi05:23
cyphaPsyCl0ne, could you ever hear stuff before?05:23
PsyCl0necypha: yes then it got quiet and now nothing05:23
PsyCl0neI am also running Lubuntu...05:24
PsyCl0ne11.0405:24
meem1029PsyCl0ne: Have you tried rebooting?05:24
PsyCl0nemeem1029: Yes05:24
meem1029I'd recommend trying to reboot and choosing an older kernel version at grub.  I had problems like that a while ago and that fixed it.05:25
PsyCl0nemeem1029: This is a fresh install well besides the addition of Lubuntu restricted extras05:25
almoxarifePsyCl0ne: what happened of interest between being able to hear and losing sound? updates? conf edits?05:25
meem1029Oh, hmm.  That's odd then.05:25
PsyCl0nealmoxarife: I did 2 updates and a restricted extras install so I could watch flash videos. Im sorry Im fairly new so other than that I dont know what else I could have done05:26
nhr_Hey folks, trying to set up vpn using pptp. I can login to remote system, but dns for remote does not work.05:26
nhr_Any ideas what should I do?05:27
almoxarifePsyCl0ne: remove the restricted extras, try this so you can regain audio05:27
cyphaJordan_U, what can I uninstall/reinstall to make this fix?05:27
nhr_I see the dns servers in resolv.conf05:28
coolfire:L05:28
almoxarifePsyCl0ne: I don't know about other players but 'totem' does a nice job of adding codecs as needed, restricted or otherwise05:28
ducati998nhr_: does dig @<remoteDNSip> <hostname> work?05:29
nhr_ducati998: trying it05:29
yagoonhr_, ya.. can u "dig" it? LOL05:29
nhr_I got the address back for a hostname05:30
ducati998and your /etc/resolv.conf looks good?05:30
nhr_yes it does - same dns server is shown is resolv.conf05:30
ducati998what about just dig hostname? does that work?05:31
nhr_yes, even that is working05:32
ducati998so what's not working?05:32
phlak_usernhr_: what does your sudo route -n look like?05:32
ducati998phlak_user: good idea, but wouldn't the dig prove his route is ok too?05:32
nhr_IF I ping the host it does not resolve, if I use the browser to connect to server, it does not rsolve. Copying route info on pastebin05:33
ducati998nhr_: sudo service iptables stop #just to be sure05:33
yagoonhr_, there's another dns resolver for the remote internal network?05:33
yagoo,/tunnel network/05:33
phlak_userducati998: not necessarily; most VPN probs are related to routing table entries (some people want to route all traffic thro the vpn and some dont)05:33
ducati998phlak_user: gotcha05:34
nhr_Results for route -n http://pastebin.com/B2J93ALe05:34
phlak_userducati998: it all depends on what nhr_  hopes to achieve05:34
coolfire:)05:34
nhr_All I want to achieve is to be able to login to my box by name05:34
nhr_I can do that by ip address right now05:34
ducati998/etc/hosts ;-D05:34
phlak_usernhr_: that shows that your default route is thro the VPN (ppp0)05:34
phlak_usernhr_: login to your box after setting up the tunnel or for setting up the tunnel?05:35
nhr_I tried googling and might have tried to set up some entries05:35
ducati998phlak_user: so the fix for nhr_ would be to have the resolv.conf adjusted on his 10.0.0.50?05:35
nhr_Dont really understand this stuff :(05:35
phlak_userducati998: yes05:36
ducati998nhr_: listen to phlak_user i think he's on to something :)05:36
phlak_userducati998: he could add another entry in resolv.conf for the other DNS server so that it falls back in case the box name isnt resolvable by the first one05:36
yagoo"<yagoo> nhr_, there's another dns resolver for the remote internal network?"  << looks like05:37
phlak_usernhr_: what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?05:37
nhr_phlak_user: I can login to the box, there are three entries in resolv.conf05:37
nhr_two from vpn and one from my router05:37
nhr_basically 3 nameserver entries, 10.0.0.10, 10.0.0.11 and router 192.168.1.105:38
phlak_usernhr_: do they have  a search domain entry as well?05:38
nhr_Well, search/domain point to my local network05:39
nhr_in resolv.conf05:39
phlak_usernhr_: like so -> search cyberciti.biz nameserver 10.0.0.1005:39
phlak_usernhr_: replace cyberciti.biz with the domain name of your remote box05:40
nhr_need to install search, installing it now05:41
phlak_usernhr_: huh?05:41
ducati998phlak_user: can you elaborate on your thought process of suggesting his search domain being changed?05:41
os1risI lost my taskbar in ubuntu 11. Can anyone help ?05:41
nhr_when I executed search <local domain> I got the error, cmd not found and suggested the package05:41
phlak_usernhr_: not the *search* package; add that line to resolv.conf just above the nameserver line05:42
nhr_sorry, misunderstood you05:42
almoxarifeos1ris: you tried to install gnome-shell?05:43
phlak_userducati998: im trying to make his local box go to a specific nameserver for a specific domain05:43
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os1risNo.. I just removed it on accident. Wondering on how to get the lower "apps i got open " type taskbar back05:43
ducati998phlak_user: i thought search <domain> just appended non resolving hostnames with foo.<domain> in attempt to resolve non TLD hosts05:43
nhr_success05:44
ryannathans[ 2011.336186] EXT4-fs (sda1): no journal found05:44
ryannathanswhat do?05:44
nhr_at least ping resolves the name properly05:44
ducati998congrads nhr_ :)05:44
phlak_usernhr_: what about dig05:44
phlak_userducati998: you're right; it helps him in using only the hostname part inplace of the fqdn05:45
nhr_My understanding is resolv.conf is generated. What do I do to make this permanent or it will retain my changes?05:45
phlak_usernhr_: in network-manager where you added the vpn connection05:45
almoxarifeos1ris: to get it back right click on the panel where there is nothing open or showing and 'add to panel'05:45
ducati998phlak_user: thank you for the clarification05:45
phlak_userducati998: yw05:45
nhr_ok, thanks. I'll set it up. BIG THANKS folks05:45
phlak_usernhr_: so is it working?05:45
ryannathansphlak_user: whachu think of me error?05:45
nhr_Have not set up the network manager yet, but now dns resolution is working05:46
os1risI accidentally removed my lower taskbar ( one where shows what programs are open) and now I can not find out how to get it back.> Any help ?05:46
phlak_userryannathans: looks like that partition doesnt have a valid ext4 system05:47
ryannathansphlak_user: its dat raid array05:47
phlak_userryannathans: oh that one :) havent got a clue mate05:48
ryannathansat max size, ubutntu doesn't want to partition it, it throws random errors, at 800GB, it partitions and throws that error when mounting05:48
phlak_userryannathans: after partitiioning, did you format it (create a filesystem)?05:48
ryannathansyes05:48
ryannathansext405:48
ryannathansgpt partition table05:48
auronandaceryannathans: 800gb partition for ubuntu is overkill05:49
ryannathansauronandace: it's not for ubuntu05:49
ryannathansi need it for all my data05:49
phlak_userryannathans: arent you using an LVM?05:50
ryannathansphlak_user: LVM?05:50
phlak_userryannathans: ah05:50
nhr_slight problems, if I use the automatic vpn from network manager, it does not allow me to enter the search entry05:50
nhr_If I use the address only entry, it does not get dns from vpn05:50
nhr_I can the add the dns manually, but worried if they change on other side of the connection, will not get those entries back05:50
auronandaceryannathans: ah, sorry, if windows needs to read it too you should make it ntfs05:50
phlak_userryannathans: Logical Volume Manager . you should be following this -> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html05:50
os1risCan anyone assist me in my system tray ( on the bottom issue ) please =]05:51
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ryannathansI partitioned a ~40gb ext4 on an msdos partition table, it's on the 800gb array05:51
phlak_user!info lvm05:51
ryannathansauronandace: I know.05:51
ubottuPackage lvm does not exist in natty05:51
phlak_user!info mdadm05:51
ubottumdadm (source: mdadm): tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 3.1.4-1+8efb9d1ubuntu4.1 (natty), package size 291 kB, installed size 852 kB05:51
ryannathansi can't use 11.04 or 11.10 - they kernel panick on boot05:51
ryannathansi can't linux software raid, i need the raid array in both OS05:51
TheEvilPhoenixphlak_user:  please use /msg ubottu !<factoid>05:51
TheEvilPhoenixphlak_user:  rather than clutter up the channel here, private messaging the bot has the response sent directly to you05:52
ryannathansI have a 600$ raid card here, useless05:52
TheEvilPhoenix!lvm > phlak_user05:52
ubottuphlak_user, please see my private message05:52
phlak_userTheEvilPhoenix: will do05:52
phlak_userTheEvilPhoenix: actually wanted to direct it at ryannathans05:52
TheEvilPhoenixphlak_user:  unless of course you need to have something stated here for a support purpose, of course.  IN which case, ignore what i said05:52
TheEvilPhoenixphlak_user:  oh, well then...05:52
cyphacan someone tell me where "ctrl:swapcaps" is being set in this https://gist.github.com/cd47c5c7dde47808956e05:53
TheEvilPhoenix!lvm > ryannathans05:53
ubotturyannathans, please see my private message05:53
cyphai'm not very good at reading log files05:53
ryannathansi can't use software raid.05:53
Untitled_onlyhey, im having problems with compiz, on ubuntu 11.0405:54
ryannathansI NEED the raid array in windows & linux, it HAD all my data on it -.-05:54
ryannathansI've been working on this for a week05:54
ryannathansi've been in this room, EVERY DAY!05:55
Untitled_onlywhen i go to ccsm and enable the desktop cube, it doesn't launch05:55
* ryannathans has lost a weeks work and counting05:55
phlak_userryannathans: do you have a separate hardware RAID controller?05:55
Coreyryannathans: Why do you need a RAID array under multiple OSes?05:55
coolfirewhy i cant download video for youtube in ubuntu 10.04=====;;MMH??05:56
ryannathansphlak_user: yes, it's my dedicated raid card, adaptec 380505:56
phlak_userryannathans: methinks you need a NAS box more05:56
Coreyryannathans: By the time we get to RAID, we're usually single OS, or under a NAS.05:56
Untitled_onlyi have a nvida graphic card, but compiz wont work05:56
coolfirei05:56
ryannathansCorey: I have the raid array for windows, where all my work is, and in linux I need the raid array for work too ;d05:57
ryannathansI can't NAS, I need more bandwidth than 1Gb/s05:57
ryannathansthat's why i have me array05:57
coolfirewhy i cant download video for youtube in ubntu05:58
soreaucoolfire: you can05:58
ryannathanscoolfire: you need flash05:58
soreaucoolfire: Try installing firefox add-on download helper05:58
ryannathanscoolfire: if you don't have flash  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer05:58
coolfireok think you!!!05:59
ryannathansI have helped more than 100 people. I tihnk it's my turn. I NEED to access raid array under linux, adaptec 3805, i have tried to modprobe aacraid but that does nothing05:59
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asian14hello all fellow ubuntu users06:00
ryannathans\o/ runs complex linux servers but can't get desktop installed06:01
gr33n7007hHELP. Needed. macbook pro 13 touchpad wont work in ubuntu 10.1006:02
FalstaffI am looking for a music composing program along the lines of Quasi Fractal composer -- any suggestions?06:03
ryannathanscan i HIRE someone?06:03
fritschryannathans: how much do you want to pay? :-)06:03
Jordan_Uryannathans: Canonical provides commercial support.06:03
meem1029ryannathans: I'm pretty sure exclaiming about your problem more won't help.  If people in here knew how to help you they probably would have.06:04
ryannathansJordan_U: can you direct me pleasE?06:04
Jordan_Uryannathans: http://www.canonical.com/consumer-services/support06:05
gr33n7007hplease help it was working before06:05
kevinjeethey! just installed natty on a sandybridge i7 and nvidia gtx 460M... any idea how to test which gpu is active?06:06
ryannathans£88.42?!06:06
ryannathansI should only have to pay if they can't help06:06
Duromorirhello06:06
Duromoriranyone can help me06:06
meem1029How would that make sense?06:06
meem1029!ask | Duromorir06:06
ubottuDuromorir: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:06
zimb0!patience | zimb006:07
ubottuzimb0, please see my private message06:07
rwwgr33n7007h: because ubottu is the #UBunTU bOT06:07
ryannathans!patience | ryannathans06:07
ubotturyannathans, please see my private message06:07
gr33n7007hoh ok lol06:08
Duromorirmy grub choise was lost06:08
Duromorir~_~106:08
Duromorirlast time i use 2 os06:08
Duromorirwin and gnacktrack06:08
Duromoriran then i reinstall my win706:08
Duromorirand now, i can't use my gnactracck again after i finish install my win706:09
Jordan_U!backtrack | Duromorir06:09
ubottuDuromorir: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition06:09
Dr_ubuntuwill the new release be tomorrow?06:09
jasefYep, 13th Oct in GMT time06:11
keithzgHmm, I'm trying to help someone remotely diagnose graphics issues on an HD 4350, what's the open source drivers package actually called these days? I always seem to have Intel or Nvidia so I'm a bit unsure.06:15
os1risI have looked all over the internet. I cant not seem to find out where/how to get my lower taskbar back( one that has the trash and so on) i accidently removed it.. Can somone help me on getting this back? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE06:15
cyphaCan I get help in locating where ctrl:swapcaps is has been set? I have this in my Xorg.log file--> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d and there are 3 instances of ctrl:swapcaps...just not sure what file is providing those values06:15
airtonixos1ris: i assume you're using a gnome 2 desktop, then this is simple06:16
os1risGnome yes.06:16
airtonixos1ris: right click on the top bar then click new panel, you'll have to recreate the panel applets that were on the previous bottom bar you had, simply right click on your new bottom panel and select "Add to panel"06:17
os1risso how to i drag it down to the bottom06:17
os1risOh fuck06:18
airtonixos1ris: right click it : properties06:18
os1risHaha I feel fucking stupid ...06:18
Jordan_U!language | os1ris06:18
ubottuos1ris: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:18
os1rissorry06:18
airtonixos1ris: a little bit of investigative work prior to this would have fixed that06:18
os1risI feel stupid. I was over thinking the problem. Looking at gconf editor and all that.. hah thx man06:18
os1risWell i was googling the heck out of stuff and looking on the forums06:18
coolfirekj06:18
airtonixno worries os1ris06:18
Nicolusick06:19
os1risbut everyting was for other stuff. Well thanks again... Nothing like a admin lookin like a n3wb06:19
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os1risl8rs06:19
airtonixos1ris: if you haven't already, checkout askubuntu06:19
cyphahow do I find a file at the command line?06:19
cypha"find .gnomerc"06:19
airtonixcypha: depends.06:19
cyphaairtonix, on?06:20
airtonixcypha: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/find/ZmluZA==/sort-by-votes06:20
cyphai want to search the whole filesystem06:20
airtonixcypha: if you're looking for filenames then its one tool, if you are looking for a file containing a certain phrase then it's another tool06:20
cyphai'm looking for file names06:21
airtonixcypha: (there are infact numerous tools to do this task)06:21
cyphaso just tell me one syntax please06:21
airtonixcypha: checkout that page i linked for you06:21
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cyphaairtonix, what would be your preferred method of searching for a filename?06:22
airtonixfind ~/.ssh -name '*.pub'06:22
cyphawhat's ~/.ssh for?06:23
fritschcypha: man ssh06:23
airtonixcypha: it's the location, that one says " look for all the files that end in .pub inside the .ssh folder under my home folder"06:23
cyphano, that's not what I'm asking fritsch06:23
airtonixcypha: so you want to find the .gnomerc file ?06:24
airtonixcypha: or files that end in .gnomerc (which is a theme file right ? )06:24
fritschcypha: okay, got - so man find :-)06:24
cyphaairtonix, actually, I have no idea what I want to find, I was just gonna try a bnucha crap06:24
cyphafritsch, keep your rtfm's to yourself06:24
airtonixhave some paitence06:25
cyphaairtonix, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey#toc406:25
fritschcypha: sometimes reading and understanding is better than copying commands06:25
cyphaI think I did that06:25
airtonixcypha: i highly recommend commandlinefu.com06:25
airtonixcypha: i'm not a fan of emacs or vi06:26
cyphaand basically I cannot undo the ctrl and capslock swap06:26
airtonixcypha: sorry, no idea06:26
cyphaaccording to Xorg.log, it's still happening06:26
cyphahttps://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d06:26
cyphaif you search for "caps" in there, you can see the line06:26
cyphabut I don't know what file on my system has that line06:26
cyphalike where in the world are those "options" being read from06:27
cyphagot a good way to find that?06:27
cyphagrepping has lead me nowhere06:27
fritschcypha: your xorg.conf is empty, isn't it?06:27
cyphano06:28
fritschcypha: but there you already looked and it is not in?06:28
cyphanope06:28
fritschcypha: cause this is the first one, this could be in06:28
cyphathere's stuf in there, but that's not in there06:28
cyphaI checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:28
cyphaany ideas?06:30
fritschcypha: check keyboard-configuration package06:30
cyphai have it06:31
cyphahow do I run it?06:31
cyphaor check it06:31
fritschcypha: you want to reconfigure it?06:31
fritschcypha: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration06:31
lapionI am really beginning to become fond of microsoft, they have really made it easy for us linux afficionados with windows 8 we will be having a hell of a lot of people switching to linux06:32
lapionoth windows 8 will bring all kinds of n00bs and other rather irritating ppl screaming to us and driving us crazy.. in the end we might flip and the only os we'd be able to use is the retarded w8 .,,,,...,,.,,..,.,,.06:32
cyphageneric 105-key (intl) pc06:32
cypha?06:32
cyphanot sure why it's intl06:32
cyphai'm in the US06:32
FloodBot1cypha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:32
Ben64people said that about vista, didn't happen then06:32
cyphafritsch, that's the same stuff that's in the gnome-control-center Keyboard settings06:33
dagerivmy laptop just froze, and after two seconds, decided to reboot. i am now logged in after this, which logs should i check to find out what happened?06:33
cyphabut when I uncheck swap capslock and cntrl, it just ends up rechecked when I close and open06:34
TehDGMBen64: but for vista they didnt attempt to force a "tablet ui" on us..06:34
TehDGMthat'll be all i have to say about that :P06:34
sandkinghello06:35
Jordan_U!ot | TehDGM lapion Ben6406:35
ubottuTehDGM lapion Ben64: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:35
Jordan_Ulapion: Please don't use "retarded" as a pejorative.06:35
sandkingi got 11.04 installed - is update to 11.10 automatic or do i need to do somtehing specific outside update manager? (I think I read that 11.04 and after it should be automatic)06:35
fritschcypha: sorry no idea either - but i am interested :-)06:37
NorthwoodsCan i create a shortcut on panel or a keyboard shortcut for opening a folder like /home/northwoods/web/06:37
cyphaJordan_U, you should make a trigger for that06:37
cypha:)06:37
airtonixNorthwoods: yes06:37
Northwoodsairtonix: sorry but i'm new , how can we do it ?06:37
fritschcypha: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup06:37
fritschcypha: as a last hint06:37
fritschcypha: could work06:37
airtonixNorthwoods: ok so you have your file manageer open to the folder you want the shortcut pointing to ?06:38
airtonixNorthwoods: also which version of ubuntu are you using ?06:38
Northwoodsyes , 10.xx06:38
Northwoods10.04 lucid06:39
airtonixNorthwoods: simply ctrl shift drag the folder to the panel06:39
cyphafritsch, aren't these all the same options available in the gui?06:39
airtonixNorthwoods: sorry ctrl shift drag to the desktop, then drag that icon on the desktop to your panel06:39
Northwoodsairtonix:06:39
Northwoodsthanks06:39
fritschcypha: not sure for systemwide06:39
airtonixNorthwoods: no problems06:39
cyphafritsch, what're the default options?06:40
cyphautf-806:40
cypha?06:40
fritschcypha: jep06:40
cyphaand then character set to support?06:40
fritschcypha: just leave the default - i am still searching the correct way to change it06:40
cyphafritsch, didn't change capslock/ctrl06:41
fritschcypha: http://dinomite.net/2007/caps-lock-to-control-on-ubuntu/#.TpU25P3Bz5g <- this one, you have tried?06:42
cyphafritsch, yes06:43
cyphaand by tried, I mean, I looked in xorg.conf, and that line is not there06:43
Jordan_Ucypha: Have you tested a LiveCD of the same release of Ubuntu yet?06:44
cyphaJordan_U, i don't have a blank cd06:44
Jordan_Ucypha: This is VirtualBox, you can treat the iso like a CD.06:44
cyphaJordan_U, if it occurs on the live cd, what would that indicate? that my Host or VBox are at fault?06:44
cyphaoh, good point06:45
Jordan_Ucypha: Yes.06:45
cyphak, i'll do it now06:45
cyphai hope you have options for me if it doesn't work!06:46
fritschcypha: manual xorg.conf for your keyboard settings should work06:46
fritschcypha: but another way would be batter06:46
fritschcypha: custom xmodmap is another alternative06:46
cyphaJordan_U, I've got the ubuntu ISO06:47
cyphahow do I load it up?06:47
cyphayou mean create a new machine?06:47
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harry_Fedora 15 users???06:50
MAREK_BENC_NetBI!06:50
MAREK_BENC_NetBBut this is Ubuntu chanel06:50
ryannathanswhen raid card is inserted, 11.04, 11.10 and fedora 15 all kernel panic on boot06:54
ryannathans10.04 can't even read it06:54
ryannathansworks perfect under windows i might add06:54
trenchwhat kind of crappy raidcard?06:54
trenchevery crappy raidcard works in windows06:55
ryannathanscrappy? it's RRP is ~$60006:55
MAREK_BENC_NetBI once had a Crappy USB soundcard that only worked in FreeBSD06:55
TehDGMmaybe it just needs some kernal module06:55
ryannathansadapec 380506:55
TehDGMkernel too06:55
ryannathansaacraid is what is needed i beleive06:55
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phlak_userryannathans: you can compile it into the kernel like so -> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/aac.4freebsd.html06:57
AlxjrvsHey guys06:57
AlxjrvsI feel I just somehow screwed myself06:57
AlxjrvsI am setting up ubuntu for the first time, and now when I06:57
ohzieAlxjrvs: Please elaborate06:57
ohzie:[06:57
ryannathansphlak_user: I've seen that, i dont have anything to compile it on06:57
Alxjrvs"cd ~" in command line, it takes me to a completely naked directory.06:57
MAREK_BENC_NetB!enter06:57
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:57
trenchhttp://www.adaptec.com/weblog//2007/11/15/how-do-i-get-adaptec-storage-manager-to-work-with-ubuntu-710/06:58
ohzieAlxjrvs: Did you create a user without making a home directory for that use06:58
ohzieuser*06:58
AlxjrvsSorry, ubottu. I'll try not to. Long story short, cd ~ used to always take me to my home directory (/home/username/) but now it takes me to an empty directory. "cd .." brings me to root.06:58
AlxjrvsI do not believe so.06:58
ryannathanstrench: 40406:58
MAREK_BENC_NetBWhat happens when you type "pwd", Alxjrvs06:59
trenchhttp://www.adaptec.com/weblog/2009/07/24/improving-support-for-debian-based-oss/06:59
LasersAlxjrvs: "echo $USER" reports what?06:59
phlak_userAlxjrvs: press ctl+d06:59
AlxjrvsMAREK: /home/alxjrvs06:59
MAREK_BENC_NetBThat means you're in your home directory :)06:59
ryannathanstrench: the driver is in the kernel07:00
ohzieAlxjrvs: do "ls -A"07:00
ryannathanstrench: I need to compile it, but have no machine to do so07:00
ohzieAlxjrvs: If you really think there should be anything in your home directory, that should show it to you07:00
ryannathanscan somebody compile a kernel for me?07:00
AlxjrvsMAREL: forgive me, I was actually in my home directory at the time. cd ~, then pwd gives me "/root"07:00
Ben64ryannathans: compile it in livecd07:00
Alxjrvs...07:00
AlxjrvsI fear I just solved my own question.07:01
Ben64Alxjrvs: are you logged in as root?07:01
ohzieAlxjrvs: ;p;07:01
ohzielol*07:01
AlxjrvsAlright.07:01
AlxjrvsFeeling like a noob on IRC. Brings me back to the good old days.07:01
ohzieAlxjrvs: It's okay, man. It happens to the best of us.07:01
ohzieAlxjrvs: You should've seen me a few weeks ago07:01
phlak_userryannathans: you could boot a laptop with a usb/livecd and compile07:01
phlak_userAlxjrvs: did you press ctl+d ?07:02
ohzieAlxjrvs: I've been using linux for more than a decade. I installed the newest Fedora on my laptop and I was like "uh oh god what is this." and had no idea what to do with gnome 3.07:02
ryannathansphlak_user: yeah, i have a single core atom @ 1.6ghz07:02
ryannathansgoing to go a long way...07:02
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Ben64you have a raid card with an atom?07:03
phlak_userryannathans: i have one like that too ; just compile the module07:03
ohzieryannathans: Hey that sounds like my torrent server. EEEpc with ubuntu server on it. :307:03
ryannathansohzie: hehe07:03
ryannathansohzie: that's what i'm on07:03
ryannathansphlak_user: module is compiled and in every damn build since 707:03
ryannathansphlak_user:  i need it in the kernel07:03
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ohzieBen64: A lot of people like ulv CPUs for servers nowadays. =P They don't have the brunt, but they can do everything a good server could do a few years ago. =P07:03
CompanionROAR!07:03
AlxjrvsOhzie: Gnome three is resonsible for my escapade, too07:04
AlxjrvsI actually really like it07:04
ohzieAlxjrvs: Yeah it makes me feel weird and I hate it. I'm gonna have to get used to it though.07:04
Northwoodshow do i extract a zip file into /usr/share/php , it doesn't allow me through archive manager07:04
Ben64ohzie: well yeah, but i've never seen an eeepc that would take a raid card07:04
ryannathanschown/chmod07:04
ohzieNorthwoods: "sudo unzip filename" in the terminal07:04
ryannathansNorthwoods:07:04
CompanionBen64, why do you want to extract it there?07:04
TehDGMdont chown that folder07:04
TehDGMsudo it07:04
Ben64Companion: wrong guy07:04
ohzieNorthwoods: What TehDGM said, please don't chown that folder. Lol./07:05
Northwoodsryannathans: Why sudo and not CHOWN ?07:05
CompanionBen64, guy?07:05
Ben64i'm not the one unzipping07:05
ryannathansNorthwoods: eh?07:05
upsetchildren#ubuntu-offtopic is ran by a bunch of babies07:05
Northwoodsthanks people07:05
ohzieBen64: They make Atoms for desktop computers too. I just use an EEEpc because I like to be able to put my server in my backpack. =D07:05
ryannathansi have nfi what's going on anymore07:05
TehDGMbecause you shouldnt mess with the ownership of that system folder.. theres no need. It can also comprimize security07:05
CompanionBen64, you know extracting in such place can cause lots of troubles?07:05
phlak_userryannathans: which is why you need to include it in the kernel (monolithic) as against it being a loadable module07:05
Ben64Companion: again, its not me unzipping07:06
CompanionBen64, so your intending to destroy some one else's system?07:06
Alxjrvsohzie I'm in my mid twenties, been using linux for... gosh, 10 years now. I've always been a design person, and I have to say that this interface is ~20 pounds sexier than anything i've seen on linux.07:06
Ben64Companion: dude its not me!07:06
CompanionBen64, then why do you ask it?07:06
Ben64I DID NOT ASK IT07:06
CompanionBen64, oops xD07:06
Ben64finally07:06
Northwoodswhat is difference between gksudo and sudo ?07:06
CompanionBen64, srry I just woke up07:07
trenchNorthwoods: gk07:07
MonkeyDustNorthwoods: gk is for graphical appliclations07:07
Ben64Northwoods: gksudo makes gui stuff work better07:07
ohzieAlxjrvs: Well it's a good thing some people like it. :-)07:07
TehDGMgksudo has a gui thing07:07
Northwoodsok07:07
CompanionNorthwoods, why your extracting some thing there? :o07:07
AlxjrvsHere's a dumb question: what command logs me out of root? I know I can just reset the window, but I am curious.07:07
LasersNorthwoods: Unzip in ~/Temp ; Move the contents to your desirable directory in the forbidden forest outside of your home directory.07:07
TehDGMno all it does is show an input box in a gui rather then a commandline07:07
NorthwoodsCompanion: yes07:07
TehDGMit doesnt make stuff work better really :P07:07
phlak_userAlxjrvs: ctl+d07:07
Ben64Alxjrvs: CTRL+D or "exit"07:07
CompanionNorthwoods, I asked why... its dangerous07:07
popeyAlxjrvs: logout :D07:07
trenchAlxjrvs: ctrl+d07:07
AlxjrvsThanks guys07:07
Northwoodswhat07:07
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CompanionNorthwoods, extracting stuff into your system can cause orphan packages & Conflicts07:08
NorthwoodsCompanion: what should i do then ?07:08
ohzieNorthwoods: the sudo line07:08
CompanionNorthwoods, what your trying to do then/07:08
Northwoodsextract somewhere esle and move ?07:08
trenchLindaLoveLace: irc as root is not a smart idea07:08
Alxjrvsohzie: Also, something I discovered that I love: Now, my workstations are relegated to one monitor. So I can keep my dual monitor consistent with a single activity and move around on the other monitor. Fantastic for programming with multiple resources to look at.07:08
MAREK_BENC_NetBWhy is GRUB Prefered over LiLo in Ubuntu?07:08
Northwoodsi have to extract a zend library07:09
ohzieMAREK_BENC_NetB: because Lilo is ancient07:09
Northwoodsso i'm thinking of extracting it in /usr/share/php07:09
trenchMAREK_BENC_NetB: grub got more stuff than lilo07:09
MonkeyDustMAREK_BENC_NetB: "why" is philosophical question07:09
CompanionNorthwoods, your trying to run encrypted web pages?07:09
phlak_userNorthwoods: what do the instructions say?07:09
NorthwoodsCompanion: no07:09
TehDGMgrub is much more powerful then lilo is07:09
Northwoodsinstructions say nothing ?07:09
CompanionNorthwoods, or zend framework* srry xD07:09
MAREK_BENC_NetBBut you can put lilo on anything07:09
ohzieAlxjrvs: Yeah, I use multiple computers at work...but I use a windows laptop and a mac at work. ( ,_,)07:09
phlak_userNorthwoods: where did you get that library from (or did you make it yourself?)07:10
Northwoodsok i can extract zend library into /home/northwoods/libraries/07:10
CompanionNorthwoods, do: sudo apt-get install zend-framework07:10
AlxjrvsOhzie: Yeesh.07:10
TehDGMyou can also put grub on "everything"07:10
Northwoodsphlak_user: zend library07:10
CompanionNorthwoods, do: sudo apt-get install zend-framework07:10
ohzieAlxjrvs: I was only allowed to use windows until recently. Linux was just a server thing and a my-laptop thing...but we're switching to corporate gmail for everything, so it doesn't matter what I use. So I have a mac on my desk. It's...really pretty. :307:11
NorthwoodsCompanion: it will start downloading again , i have the archive of zend framework07:11
Northwoodsi just need to extract it and update the path in php.ini ,  include_path settings07:11
CompanionNorthwoods, its better to instal trough APT :)07:11
Northwoodsand i'm ready to go07:11
Northwoodsok let me ty07:11
Northwoodstry07:11
Northwoodsthanks for help07:11
ohzieAlxjrvs: irssi really sucks on a mac's terminal though. The default mac terminal is actually a lot less capable than I'm use to gnome-terminal being. Significantly. :| I downloaded terminator for mac, but I haven't had much chance to play with it yet.07:11
CompanionNorthwoods, np its better safe then sorry07:12
`AbhijitI've got a 3g modem (USB dongle) that loads up a virtual CD-ROM on start. Any ideas on how I can automatically 'eject' it on startup? (The volume isn't mounted on start though.. if it helps) Thanks.07:13
TehDGMdisable booting from usb in your bios07:14
TehDGMor do you mean that it mounts it?07:15
`AbhijitTehDGM, it is unmounted but not ejected. The icon shows up on desktop07:15
MonkeyDustohzie: i use irssi in linux, works fine07:16
wooter`Abhijit, there is eject command07:16
wooteradd the command to startup script07:16
wooterhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/eject.1.html07:17
`Abhijitwooter, thanks.. i'll try that07:17
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dealsad07:20
CompanionNorthwoods, did it work?07:20
ohzieMonkeyDust: I was referring to using it over a mac terminal07:21
ohzieMonkeyDust: irssi in linux is pretty much all I ever use ever for irc. It's fantastic. Everything I could ever want or need in any irc-related situation.07:22
NorthwoodsCompanion: I used the zend framework extracted library and extracted it to /home/northwoods/zendframework and now going to update the php.ini for include_path to this folder07:22
CompanionNorthwoods, wont work :)07:23
Northwoods:) let me try it and see07:25
PunkUnityhey07:26
PunkUnityquick question07:27
PunkUnityi am trying to use chromium07:27
PunkUnityeverytime i start it07:28
PunkUnityit asks me to set it as default browser, which i do07:28
PunkUnityand everytime it keeps asking07:28
PunkUnityfix?07:28
zambais it possible to set a global proxy server?07:28
zambain ubuntu?07:28
wooteri believe so zamba07:29
zambawooter: where is that set?07:29
wooterive had apt-get run thru proxy before07:29
zambawooter: yeah, i know about that.. but when i now try to use mplayer to stream something, a proxy is used07:29
zambafor the strangest reason07:29
zambai've never experienced that before07:29
Ben64you probably set a proxy07:29
zambaBen64: well, where?07:30
Ben64do you have chrome07:30
zambaBen64: yes07:30
Ben64did you set a proxy in there07:30
zambaBen64: i tried the proxy switchy! extension there07:30
zambaBen64: so yeah07:30
Ben64theres your problem :)07:30
PunkUnityso no one has any ideas onn my problen07:30
PunkUnity?07:30
zambaBen64: but how does mplayer use that proxy? that makes no sense?07:30
Ben64chrome likes to set proxy system wide07:30
zambaBen64: yeah, but why and how does mplayer use that?07:31
PunkUnityben64 i have no idea what that means07:31
zambaBen64: it has to be set in some file that mplayer reads?07:31
wooterhttp://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_use_mplayer_with_a_proxy_server07:31
zambawooter: did you read what i actually asked?07:31
PunkUnityi just want to make chromium the default browser and stop it form asking me07:31
zambawooter: i don't want mplayer to use a proxy, i DON'T want it to be using the one it's using07:31
jasefChrome doesn't set its own proxy, it respects the system proxy instead - and so its proxy settings button points to the system proxy07:33
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vltHello. How can I find out who created, changed or deleted which file and when?07:35
ryannathansI can't compile kernel on a liveusb.. one of the packages can't install07:35
ryannathanshttp://pastebin.com/E6ENb12T07:37
phlak_userryannathans: methinks you can safely ignore those two errors07:38
ryannathanswhat about http://pastebin.com/srtMMgH407:40
wrennyi installed Ubuntu from a USB stick, did the whole setup, restarted to PC but it just loads Windows, no option seen to boot into Ubuntu, what did I miss?07:41
ryannathanswrenny: bootloader07:41
zaapielyeah07:41
wrennyI said nothing about that in direction on the Ubuntu web site07:42
wrennyit07:42
NorthwoodsCompanion: you are right07:42
Northwoodsit didn't work07:42
Northwoodsi'll have to use APT07:42
ryannathansphlak_user: http://pastebin.com/srtMMgH407:42
newbhow can i watch veoh on ubuntu07:43
newbhow can i watch veoh on ubuntu?07:43
wrennysays nothing about a needing a bootloader on this url: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download07:43
ryannathanswrenny: you installed bootloader on wrong disc when installing07:44
wrennywhat?07:44
usr13wrenny: every OS needs a boot loader, that is a given07:45
wrennyi used the tool to create the Ubuntu install from a usb device07:45
gechmogSo, if I wanted to run a quick stress test on a new internatl 2TB hard drive, what command would I use with Bonnie++?07:45
wrennyand foloowed the directions to the letter on that url07:45
usr13!grub | wrenny07:45
ubottuwrenny: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)07:45
wrennyit just says, reboot and enjoy Ubuntu?07:45
MonkeyDustgechmog: try ./bonnie++ -u root07:46
wrennyyea well it would have been nice for the main website of Ubuntu to even mention that07:46
Mavrikhi07:46
ryannathanswrenny: it installs while installing ubuntu07:47
wrennywhat does07:47
honeyhey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?07:47
ryannathansyou have failed and put it on wrong partition or drive, or theres an error07:47
ryannathansgrub -.-07:47
wrennyno error07:47
MavrikI'm experiencing flickering on desktop when having effects enabled on 2500K sandy bridge GPU, is there any parameter/PPA with updated drivers that could fix that?07:47
ryannathanswrenny: it's not all verbose07:47
wrennylike I said I follow the direction on that url to the letter07:47
The_BROSIs Unity easier in use than Gnome?07:47
QnnariHey, is there a terminal command i can use to disable restricted nvidia drivers? Installed them and after reboot I'm getting fsck boot...07:48
usr13wrenny: The instructions could have been a lot longer and could have included a lot more details, (one could write a pretty nice size book on how to install Linux).07:48
wrennyi chose ot install beside current windows OS07:48
MonkeyDustThe_BROS: depends on what you like07:48
ryannathansFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU07:48
Kalidarnhmm, i just updated the firmware on my SSD (and reinstalled windows) so i decided to change back my controller to AHCI07:48
Ben64Qnnari: fsck isn't bad07:48
Jordan_Uwrenny: Do you have more than one hard drive?07:48
Kalidarni've noticed that grub wont boot anything while in AHCI and the bootsplash for grub doesn't appear in AHCI mode07:48
Qnnariits not? scared the shit out of me...07:48
wrennyI allocated space on C: for it07:48
Kalidarnis there something i have to do to get grub to work with AHCI?07:48
newbhow can i watch veoh on ubuntu?07:48
honeyhey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?07:48
Ben64Qnnari: it happens every n boots07:49
i2cHi folks I have 3 computers here all running ubuntu. I would like to save bandwidth by having only one computer downloading packages how can I do it?07:49
wrennyan I see the partitions in Windows disk manager07:49
Jordan_Uwrenny: Do you have more than one internal hard drive?07:49
wrennyyes several07:49
Jordan_Uwrenny: How many?07:49
wrennyi created a separate partition on my main drive07:49
wrennyit07:49
gechmogMonkeyDust: I don't want to run the command under root, I just really want to do a thorough test.07:49
wrennyi see it07:49
wrenny50 GB07:49
Jordan_Uwrenny: How many?07:50
The_BROSMonkeyDust: I mean should I install gnome 3 in 11.10 release or better to become accustomed to Unity?07:50
MonkeyDustgechmog: try your username instead of root07:50
QnnariBen64: Maybe I explained myself badly, what I'm getting is a black screen and ubuntu itself wont boot up07:50
wrenny407:50
th_i2c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror07:50
MonkeyDustThe_BROS: the same: depends on what you like more - i don't like unity so i don't use it07:50
Ben64Qnnari: what video card07:50
i2cthanks th_:)07:50
th_The_BROS: try them out and decide yourself.. i personally hate gnome-shell, at least for it not working correctly with ati cards =P07:51
ryannathansWhat do? http://pastebin.com/3fSeqQ7p07:51
QnnariBen64: Nvidia geforce gt 540m07:51
th_ryannathans: apt-get update07:51
th_:)07:51
The_BROSth_: my ATI works good with Gnome07:51
Ben64!nomodeset | Qnnari07:51
ubottuQnnari: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter07:51
wrennyso are you saying the usb install installs grub by default or what07:51
ryannathansth_: I just did that -.-07:51
Jordan_Uwrenny: Try changing the boot order so that a different drive is first (or if your BIOS has a one time boot menu option that would probably be easier/faster). Try with each drive (whether you think it makes sense for that drive to boot Ubuntu or not) until one works. If none work then come back and use my nick (Jordan_U) in your comment so I see it.07:52
Ben64Qnnari: try that before trying to remove nvidia drivers07:52
th_The_BROS: gnome3 surely does not work with proprietary ati cards07:52
th_*driver07:52
QnnariBen64: Thanks!07:52
wrennyboot order where07:52
honeyplease help me?07:52
wrennynothing loads07:52
Jordan_Uwrenny: Grub is always installed by default. It just wasn't installed to the drive that your BIOS is currently configured to boot from.07:52
th_with 11.9 it more or less starts (oneirich has 11.8 drivers), but can't launch any opengl app in it07:52
The_BROSth_: mmm... its pity07:52
MonkeyDust!helpme| honey07:52
ubottuhoney: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude07:52
wrennymy boot order is usb/CD/HDD07:53
Jordan_Uwrenny: Your BIOS doesn't give you an option for which of your 4 internal hard drives it boots from?07:53
The_BROSIs this a good idea to install 11.10 release tomorrow or is better to wait, until it becomes stable?07:53
wrennyyes07:54
th_no07:54
th_:P07:54
wrennyIt set to the main drive with Windows on it07:54
gechmogMonkeyDust: What does ./ mean?07:54
Ben64The_BROS: if you want stable, LTS is your best bet07:54
gechmogDoesn't that mean just "current directory"07:54
th_The_BROS: i'd wait few weeks tbh, there's bunch of critical bugs still open that aren't fixed07:54
wrennyand I can see the new partitions Ubuntu created on the SAME drive07:54
OY1Rlts all the way07:54
Companionwhere is north?07:54
MonkeyDustgechmog: it means current directory07:54
LasersThe_BROS: Your mileage may vary. We all don't have same hardware. You should do a test run first.07:55
The_BROSBen64: you mean 10.04?07:55
Jordan_Uwrenny: Try changing the boot order so that a different drive is first (or if your BIOS has a one time boot menu option that would probably be easier/faster). Try with each drive (whether you think it makes sense for that drive to boot Ubuntu or not) until one works. If none work then come back and use my nick (Jordan_U) in your comment so I see it. Please trust me on this and just try it.07:55
xpurpleI setup spamassasin and setup emails spam@xxx.com and ham@xxx.com for people bounch mail to for training. Then a cron job for sa-learn.  This should work, right?07:55
th_Ben64: 10.04 doesn't even install on quite big range of new hardware07:55
Ben64The_BROS: that is the current one, yes07:55
th_like mine07:55
Ben64th_: like what07:55
ryannathansWhat do i do? http://pastebin.com/SUnFQpYB07:56
wrennyso it may have installed grub on another drive?07:56
Jordan_Uwrenny: Correct.07:56
th_simply because parted has segfault bug which concerns huge amount of new hard disks, and this is fixe only in 11.04 and above, and haven't been backported to 10.04.3 iso's07:56
OY1Rq: how would i set up ubuntu for kids, thinking safe web browsing ?07:56
th_and it's not just partitioning, you can't proceed with installer as parted segfaults right from reading the disk07:57
usr13OY1R: You could use a filter on the browser.07:57
Jordan_UOY1R: #edubuntu might have people more familiar with that type of thing.07:57
th_for example all spinpoints and long range of ssd's make parted to segfault07:57
wrennyi see no new partition on any drive except my 1st drive07:57
OY1Rthanks07:57
EdogaaOh07:57
Kalidarnis there anything specific i have to do to make AHCI work with grub?07:57
Companionxpurple, I admire you for owning xxx.com07:57
EdogaaOctober 13th!07:57
xpurpleCompanion: Hahahaha, example :)07:57
xpurpleCompanion: Anyway, that should work, right?07:57
EdogaaI thought it was OCTOBER 12TH07:57
Laserswrenny: I find it easier to shut down. Unplug all Internal HDD that you're not going to install OS on. (Keeping OS and Personal Consumption separate). When it comes to bootloader, select manually. Make sure you remember which /dev/sda (or /dev/sdb) -- You'll see which is your primary HDD when you're doing partition stuffs.07:57
Companionxpurple, lemme read07:58
Companionxpurple, there is an easyer method07:58
xpurpleCompanion: Oh?07:58
Companionxpurple, when installing Virtualmin (Webmin Fork) you can let it auto configure Spam Assassin07:58
vlti2c: I don't know the "right way" to tell the two other linux PCs to use the first one for updates ... but I did something like that by syncing the /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory from one to the other machines after having installed updates.07:58
wrennyi saw nothing in the install Of Ubuntu that gave any option for a bootloaded07:58
camil_hi. does any of you know some irc channel for support in c programming?07:58
usr13OY1R: I use FoxFilter  for the one I built for kids.  There are others.  See:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/es?q=parental+control&cat=all07:59
wrennyor even a drive07:59
Companionxpurple, and its easyer to manage website/e-mails etc07:59
vlti2c: So when you run update on the other machines the needed packages are already there and don't need to be downloaded agin.07:59
vlt*again07:59
Kalidarnis there anything specific i have to do to make AHCI work with grub?07:59
DJonescamil_: I think the channel is ##C07:59
Jordan_Uwrenny: The portion of grub in question is in the boot sector and post-mbr gap, not in any partition. Please follow my instructions and just trust me. I won't be here much longer but I'd like to help you.07:59
sanduz2why is oneric not being advertised anywhere if its going to release tomorrow?08:00
OY1Rusr13, thanks08:00
vltsanduz2: Why should it?08:00
usr13wrenny: The bootloader does not occupy a new partition.08:00
xpurpleCompanion: Hmm, I'd prefer nothing they have to login to as my users are not very tech savy.08:00
sanduz2vlt, they usually have a count down or something on the front page at least08:00
wrennyok08:00
usr13wrenny: do as Jordan_U suggested.08:00
wrennybrb08:00
camil_DJones - "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"08:00
Companionxpurple, they wont have to login, you can set it up & you can do the work for them08:00
Jordan_U!register | camil_08:00
ubottucamil_: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode08:00
DJonescamil_: You'll need to register your nick with freenode and identify08:01
camil_10x!08:01
sanduz2so at what time is ubuntu 11.10 releasing?08:01
i2cvlt: thanks I'll give it ago08:01
Companionxpurple, you can also set it up that way that it goes trough > POP3 > Spam Assassin > Forward08:01
_ramohi08:01
xpurpleCompanion: I currently have them pop mail so the mboxes are empty when I check them except at night when the shop is closed.08:02
Laserssanduz2: There are no official release time.08:02
_ramohow do i install a .bin file in ubuntu 10.04? i've tried with sudo thefile.bin but i jost got a "command not found"08:02
Companionxpurple, ah that bycicle08:02
usr13_ramo: You run it.08:02
Jordan_U_ramo: What are you actually trying to install?08:02
usr13_ramo: You more-than-likely will need to enable executable bit on it first. What is it?08:03
IbisHey, will there by any chance be a Windows Ubuntu Installer for 11.10 by any chance? When it does come out?08:03
xpurpleCompanion: Yes, so long as what I have works I'm happy.  Easy enough to train 20 or so people to bounce messages.08:03
IbisI want to get a friend into Ubuntu.08:03
_ramousr13: Jordan_U it's http://bitnami.org/stack/redmine#nativeInstaller the native installer for linux08:03
_ramoi did a chmod a+x on the file before08:03
_ramobut still the same effect08:03
Companionxpurple, I made it too easy for the people at my work, now they fired me cause I am no longer needed :')08:04
phlak_user!info redmine > _ramo08:04
usr13Ibis: 11.04 is new enough.08:04
MonkeyDustIbis: beter learn by using the live cd08:04
TehDGMIbis: wubi?08:04
xpurpleCompanion: hahahaha08:04
_ramophlak_user: this version is too old08:04
IbisTehDGM: Yes.08:04
cyphaJordan_U, Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu?08:04
IbisMonkeyDust: It's not for me.08:04
Companionxpurple, its real simple I setup Virtualmin + Usermin made a skin/theme that is idiot proof and it works :)08:05
IbisMonkeyDust: I got the real deal installed, I want to show a new friend linux.08:05
xpurpleCompanion: I will do some reading on that.08:05
TehDGMget him a cdrom then :P08:05
xpurpleCompanion: Thank you!08:05
Jordan_U_ramo: BitNami is not supported. Please just use Ubuntu packaged components instead.08:05
TehDGMyou can even order them for free if you dont want/cant burn them08:05
phlak_user_ramo: ok, did you chmod +x filename and then run it by sudo ./filename08:05
Companionxpurple, its np, virtualmin also supports Pop3 and such and has a great overview on spamassasin and such08:05
_ramoJordan_U: it is a bitnami image on a amazon instance08:05
_ramophlak_user: yes i did08:06
phlak_user_ramo: ./ also?08:06
_ramophlak_user: all i got is:  sudo bitnami-subversion-1.6.15-0-linux-installer.bin sudo: bitnami-subversion-1.6.15-0-linux-installer.bin: command not found08:06
Jordan_U_ramo: BitNami is not supported here.08:06
_ramoJordan_U: okay08:06
* xpurple sleeps08:06
_ramophlak_user: this works08:06
wrennyi deleted all new partitions created and I'd like to start over. How can I delete the hiding grub install too?08:06
phlak_user_ramo: of course it does :)08:07
_ramo;)08:07
TehDGMwhen you reinstall it will overwrite your grub08:07
phlak_userwrenny: whats that?08:07
usr13wrenny: Why didn't you do as Jordan_U  suggested?08:07
Laserswrenny: It resides on the first 512kb, really tiny. Do what Jordan_U suggested. Stop pretending.08:08
usr13wrenny: You will find the information you need here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB208:08
wrennyI dont want to change my boot order ,  Why isnt the install smart enough just to ask where I want it installed?08:08
usr13wrenny: You don'08:08
Jordan_Uwrenny: If you use the manual partitioning option then you will be asked where to install grub. You can also install grub wherever you want manually after install (from the liveCD).08:09
Laserswrenny: It's a known (and confirmed) bug with debian-installer.08:10
usr13wrenny: You don't have to change the boot order perminately.  Jordan_U just suggested doing it temporarily so that you can boot into Ubuntu and install the boot loader on the correct drive.08:10
cyphaJordan_U, any reason you've been ignoring me?08:10
wrennyusr13 yea i never even saw a boot menu at all after installing Ubuntu08:10
Jordan_Ucypha: I haven't been. I'm just juggling a lot of things at the moment. "Try Ubuntu"08:11
wrennyi do see in Windows that my D:drive is drive 0 but windows is on 108:11
usr13wrenny: You need to get Ubuntu bootet back up so that you can repair the boot loader, (so that you can install it on the correct drive).08:11
cyphaJordan_U, k, well, ctrl and caps lock are normal in there08:12
cyphaI also installed debian08:12
cyphanormal in there as well08:12
wrennyIf I try to now install Ubuntu fresh again can I do it correctly the 1st time now?08:12
wrennyand what must a do differnt08:12
usr13wrenny: You will find the information you need here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB208:12
Laserswrenny: You may have to install Ubuntu to USB again because it is possible that the USB have been set up with bootloader from grub-install.08:13
bubblegumI have a question and I hope I can word it correctly...08:13
almoxarifewrenny: is another os on the disk?08:13
bubblegumcan only a child process of a parent process be in a "defunct" state or can a parent process be like that as well?08:13
vikihow to update gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.0408:13
wrennywin708:13
wrennyon C:08:13
Lasers!gnome3 | viki08:13
ubottuviki: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and cannot be downgraded safely.08:13
Jordan_ULasers: Ubuntu's installer is smart enough not to install grub to external drives (unless of course you're installing the rest of Ubuntu to said external drive).08:14
wrennyI did the util last night and put the live CD on a usb thumb drive08:14
almoxarifewrenny: when you power up what comes up first, grub or MBR?08:14
wrennyinstalled from that exactly by the web site instructions08:14
usr13wrenny: You can boot the LiveCD or USB thumb drive and repair as needed.08:15
wrennynoothing08:15
wrennyit just loads windows08:15
wrennyno menu08:15
vikiLasers thanks for suggestion08:15
HackNewtonhello08:15
Jordan_Uwrenny: If you follow my instructions Ubuntu will boot. I could have helped you get grub onto whatever drive you wanted but I need to leave now. Good luck.08:15
LasersJordan_U: Bugs are bugs. We don't know if he/she use GUI installer or text-based installer. I speak from experiences with text-based installer that it's best to select it manually because some hardwares treats the usb as /dev/sda (as the first device).08:15
wrennyI will install again08:16
HackNewtondoes anyone know how to update python to 3.x08:16
almoxarifewrenny: have you had a good install of ubuntu already?08:16
wrennyhopelully I can find an option of what drive its gonna put the install onto08:16
Lasersviki: If you really want to try Gnome3, get it from Fedora.08:16
wrennyi saw nothing08:16
Lasersviki: Run it in Virtualbox at least!08:17
usr13almoxarife: He doesn't know,  he has been unable to boot it.08:17
wrennyI installed it fine, all looked good, then after a rebbot it just loaded windows and I saw no menu option to load Ubuntu08:17
honeyhey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?08:17
Jordan_Uwrenny: If you do decide to select where to install grub manually do *not* select a partition. Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the mbr (e.g. /dev/sda and *not* /dev/sda1).08:17
PsyCl0neCould someone help me with my Lubuntu install and why it doesnt output any sound?08:17
Laserswrenny: Stupid question. Try plugging in the USB and reboot your machine. You could see the GRUB if you boot up the USB again.08:17
vikilaser: then which gui is better for  ubuntu 11.0408:17
HackNewtonhoney, you mean ubuntu 10.04>08:18
almoxarifewrenny: you want to be careful, don't lose win7 too08:18
wrennymaybe08:18
wrennyif I leave the usb stick in08:18
usr13honey: Share files with what?  Another Linux PC?  Another MS Windows PC?08:18
wrennyyea08:18
honeyHackNewton: yes08:18
wrennybrb08:19
Lasersviki: There are !de (desktop environment). What I use -- I'm comfortable with.... may not be the same thing you're comfortable with. There are Gnome, KDE, LXDE, awesome, XFCE, etc.08:19
usr13honey: You are wanting to share files with another Windows PC on your LAN?  Is that what you want to do?08:19
almoxarifehoney: in nautilus right click on the folder and then click on sharing08:19
honeyusr13:another Ms windows Pc08:19
usr13!samba | honey08:19
ubottuhoney: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.08:19
almoxarifeusr13: nautilus is a much simpler method08:20
vikilaser: thanks08:20
Lasersviki: Gnome3 uses Gnome3. Ubuntu use Unity.08:20
usr13almoxarife: Tell honey08:20
Lasers!unity | viki08:20
ubottuviki: Unity is the default UI for Ubuntu 11.04. Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. You can still boot to the classic GNOME desktop; see !classic.08:20
almoxarifeusr13: did08:20
honeyusr13:i would like to share to window machine in my ubuntu machine alrady i install ssh08:21
usr13almoxarife: Very good. Now he knows, there are two methods.  (Thanks for telling me, I've not used Nautilus method.)08:22
cyphaJordan_U, so what's the next step?08:22
almoxarifehoney: the machines are on a local network?08:22
Jordan_Ucypha: I don't know.08:22
honeyalmoxarife:it is not on local network08:23
cyphaJordan_U, did I tell you that I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d08:23
jenkHi ! I have Ubuntu 11.04 on an HP Mini 110 but it freezes at bootup. Any help ? I was told to blacklist the b43 driver from the boot menu. How do I( do that ?08:23
usr13honey: almoxarife wants to know if they are both connected to the same router or switch.  So they are not?  Well, maybe you need to describe your LAN.08:23
cyphaI can't tell where it's reading the info from though08:24
almoxarifehoney: what type of network setup is it?08:25
honeyalmoxarife:?08:25
usr13honey: He needs to know how these two computers are connected to the network.  Can you describe your network?08:26
almoxarifehoney: describe the network configuration you have that needs the machines talking to each other08:26
despe70what is the difference between "ubuntu", and "ubuntu server" ? and how can I find out which of the two I'm running ?08:27
honeythey are in different routers08:27
honeyalmoxarife:they are in different routers08:27
usr13honey: That will be a problem.08:27
MonkeyDustdespe70: server is partitioned differently and it has no GUI08:27
hje841Using waf to build a NS-3 simulation in Natty 64-bit I get this error: http://pastebin.com/VhGyuqMz any suggestions?08:27
jenkHi ! How do I disable the b43 module from being loaded at startup in the Grub menu ?08:27
almoxarifehoney: does one router provide dhcp for the rest of the routers?08:27
usr13honey: Do you have any type of tunneling set up?  Can they ssh or ping each other?08:28
MonkeyDustdespe70: and other packages are installed by default08:28
usr13honey: Tell us the IP addresses of the two machines.08:28
usr13the inside IP addresses of each.08:28
honeyok waite aminute08:28
despe70MonkeyDust: k, can I find out which one I'm running ? I didn't install it myself and it's still hardy ... considering upgrading, but I want to make sure to follow the correct track08:28
MonkeyDustdespe70: type lsb_release -a08:29
almoxarifeusr13: that's a better way of asking08:29
DerpadongYou guys have ops?08:29
usr13Derpadong: Sure, what do you need?08:29
Derpadongcause id say kickban evva08:29
Derpadongevva is a bot08:29
despe70MonkeyDust: that says "distributor id: ubuntu, description ubuntu 8.04"08:29
despe70monkeydust: so it's the "regular" ubuntu ?08:30
th_that's old LTS release08:30
MonkeyDustdespe70: seems so, 8.04 is an LTS08:30
usr13Derpadong: We'll let them know.08:30
DerpadongOkay08:30
th_you can upgrade directly to 10.04, which is next (and current) LTS08:30
th_i'd recommend skipping non-LTS releases =P08:30
DerpadongI just came in and evva messaged me with a link and said sex08:31
honeyusr13:for the ubuntu=10.128.60.142 and for windows=10.124.99.9308:31
DerpadongLol08:31
DerpadongI love this dualboot for the cr4808:31
despe70k thx08:31
cyphaI'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?08:32
DerpadongSo is there a way to change the look the notify-osd?08:32
jenkHi ! How do I disable the b43 module from being loaded at startup in the Grub menu ?08:33
almoxarifehoney: can those two machines see each other?08:34
honeyalmoxarife:no08:34
almoxarifehoney: are the two routers sharing the same router ahead of them?08:36
jenkHey !! How can I prevent the b43 module from being loaded at startup ? Which part of the Grub menu do I edit ?08:37
MonkeyDustjenk: b43** is broadcom, right? it is not being loaded in the grub, imho08:38
hje841How do I submit a bug in Natty?08:38
atomxcan I capture a stream like this     rtsp://video.cpm.jussieu.fr/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1.smil     into a video file  ?08:38
atomx(in ubuntu)08:38
MonkeyDust!bug| hje84108:39
ubottuhje841: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.08:39
cyphaI'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log--> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d , but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?08:39
jenkMonkeyDust, Yes, it's the driver for Broadcom. Following this post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467734 I found that I have to disable it from being loaded, from the Grub menu.08:39
almoxarifehoney: take a look at https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/ ubuntu support as well as windows08:40
KamZouHi, i've a Bind9 with a (new) MySQL Backend, and i'm wondering why when i do this command : "host nnnnn.whatever.mydomain.lan"  i get multiple entries, do you know why ?08:42
KamZoudrgdrgd.php5.loc has address 192.168.1.21708:42
KamZouHost drgdrgd.php5.loc not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)08:42
KamZouHost drgdrgd.php5.loc not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)08:42
jenkMonkeyDust, Any inputs ?08:42
FloodBot1KamZou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:42
despe70I'm trying to upgrade my webserver from 8.04 to 10.04.  I'm following the LucidUpgrades info for it (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades). However, when I start do-release-upgrade, this tells me that it's unsafe to do it over SSH.  I only have SSH access to the server - should I just go ahead, or is there a better solution ?08:43
icerootdespe70: use ssh + screen!08:44
icerootdespe70: with screen it is safe08:44
despe70k08:44
MonkeyDustjenk: i checked it, can't say, kindly repeat your initial question, maybe someone else can help08:44
jenkHi !! How do I disable the b43/ssb module from being loaded at startup ?08:46
icerootdespe70: but i dont know what is happening when screen get updated but its defnitly safer then just using ssh08:46
almoxarifejenk: is this what you arew looking for >>> from your link>>> I restarted and when presented with the Grub screen, I pressed "e" to edit the startup options, and added "blacklist b43" at the end of the list of options. This allowed the Mini to boot successfully.08:47
feisar_there is a modules black list08:47
iceroot!blacklist | jenk08:47
ubottujenk: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »08:47
despe70iceroot: i'm running in screen now and didn't get teh complaint from the do-release-upgrade, so they consider it safer too08:47
feisar_jenk: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf08:47
despe70or the check is unreliable :)08:47
icerootdespe70: the check cant see that you are using ssh when inside screen08:48
jenkalmoxarife, Exactly ! Only thing, I don't know where to put that line.08:48
feisar_I'd like my Ubuntu server 11.10 to notify my via email if a reboot is required due to automatic updating. What is the best way of achieving this?08:48
jenkfeisar_, That's not possible as I cannot boot into Ubuntu, neither from the recovery mode. I need to blacklist the b43/ssb module or prevent it from being lo9aded at startup, in order to boot. Thanks, though.08:49
almoxarifejenk: grub screen? press 'e'?? or that is not an option?08:49
MonkeyDustfeisar_: with ksplice, you do not have to reboot the server after a kernel upgrade - ksplice is now property of oracle08:49
icerootfeisar_: "debian-goodies"08:50
icerootfeisar_: there is a script which is telling you that a restart is needed08:50
jenkalmoxarife, I can do that, but where do I add the " blacklist b43 ssb" option ? At the end ? At the beginning ?08:50
icerootMonkeyDust: there are still reasons to reboot the system, even with ksplice08:50
icerootMonkeyDust: e.g. dbus-update, libc-update08:50
MonkeyDustok08:51
almoxarifejenk: again from your link>> edit the startup options, and added "blacklist b43" at the end of the list of options08:51
almoxarifejenk: your link says 'b43' you typed 'b43 ssb' there may be an issue there08:52
jenkalmoxarife, At the end ? As in, on a new line ? Or continuing from the last line ? Do I have to precede it with a '-' like "-blacklist b43 ssb" ?08:52
cyphaI'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log--> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d , but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?08:53
jenkalmoxarife, I'm trying to blacklist both.08:53
feisar_MonkeyDust: thanks but it would still be good to know if a reboot is needed08:53
MonkeyDustfeisar_: see iceroot's advice :)08:54
feisar_does anyone know if it is possible to be notified via emai if a system reboot is needed?08:54
icerootfeisar_: i already told you08:54
icerootfeisar_: debian-goodies08:54
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zzzzcpu08:55
almoxarifejenk: perhaps someone needs to investigate the particulars of grub line editing, specific to their needs, I know I do it alottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt08:55
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feisar_iceroot: oh great stuff, thanks08:56
jenkalmoxarife, K, thanks, though. Any other ideas ?08:56
almoxarifejenk: do what I do, read then read then read it again, btw, I suggest blacklisting one at a time, but its your makina08:57
zzzztest 12308:57
jenkalmoxarife, Alright, as you say. Thanks ! :)08:58
frewo64hi. who is the master of this channel? i just got junk from a visitor here09:00
almoxarifeevva?09:00
almoxarifebad bot09:00
Ben64frewo64: you can report them in #ubuntu-ops09:00
frewo64Ben64: ok, i do. oh, now the visitor is gone  ^^^: natasha-> hii sex http://livecam.de.vc09:02
Myrttiplease don't repeat the spam messages here09:02
almoxarifeI don't ever get msgs from bots09:02
Myrttiyou might get kickbanned by mistake - instead report them at #ubuntu-ops09:02
Myrttithank you09:02
frewo64ok09:02
somsipMyrtti: there was another report of this earlier - same bot was reported for sex messages09:05
loveThe internal mic on my laptop works great with Ubuntu 11.10 beta2 but is so noisy it is unusable in 11.04 what gives? Can I install what ever is making it work in 11.10 in 11.04?09:05
rwwsomsip: It's being dealt with.09:05
somsiprww: k09:05
MonkeyDustlove: in Terminal, type alsamixer09:06
david_@ratio eu09:06
loveMonkeyDust,  I have been here many times before, tuning up the mic in alsamixer just turns up the noise, this is a driver noise cancellation issue not a gain issue09:08
wrennyyea I'm getting partition errors when I try to install Ubuntu says can't create partition or something09:09
wrennyi think I saw that last night too09:09
wrennybut it let me continue with the install, but after reboot nothing09:10
c[_]why wont Banshee play music but the Movie Player will?09:10
c[_]there is an error saying Broken pipe [EPIPE]09:11
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wrennybut then I go into Windows and I do see partitions created so I dunno09:14
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ubuntu_hi all09:20
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ryannathanstrying to build aacraid drivers, dkms, get this, http://pastebin.com/Kut1fYHm09:21
Cheerydue to having a nonstandard windowing environment, I don't have system menu.. what system is responsible to desktop audio effects, and how do I kill/annihilate/decimate it?09:22
Johnny_Gigglesis there a straightforward way of reading an HFS+ volume on 11.04?09:22
rabbi1how to share a file from ubuntu server (remote) ?09:22
loveI am disappointed that this noise cancellation issue an the internal laptop mic in Ubuntu 11.04 hasn't been patched09:23
lovehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135380609:25
airtonixlove: oh ok09:25
TvL2386hi guys, How can I rename interfaces in 10.04.3? I used to just change 'eth0' to 'mynic' in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, but it is empty?09:25
loveSo I have to use windows just to just to use Skype09:25
TvL2386love, I'm using skype on my laptop (11.04)09:26
airtonixlove: i think you're offtopic here or confusing this with the bug report interface09:26
airtonixlove: or were you actually asking for help on something?09:26
loveTvL2386, what is your audio chipset?09:26
TvL2386love, Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)09:27
TvL2386love, it also says this in lspci: Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)09:27
TvL2386love, Sony Vaio laptop09:28
loveairtonix, yes I would like very much to know how to "patch" the ALSA driver so that it correctly noise cancels my internal microphone so people can actually here me.09:28
PhoenixSTFhello, i am running out of memory during a fsck on a 4*500gb raid 509:28
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PhoenixSTFanyway to get this around09:29
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gryWhat can I use to play amr audio files on Ubuntu?09:29
sebsebsebhi09:29
gryhi sebsebseb09:30
sebsebsebgry: hi09:30
despe70still upgrading 8.04 to 10.04, and following the manual at LucidUpgrades. That mentions: "you may need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default boot kernel to the newly installed 10.04 kernel". I checked that file, and it contains only references to 10.04. That should be fine then ?09:31
compdocPhoenixSTF, how much ram do you have?09:31
th_despe70: yup09:31
PhoenixSTFcompdoc, 6gb plus 1.2gb of swap09:31
TvL2386alright, I've just copied a rule from 70-persistent-net.rules from another ubuntu host, changed the mac, rebooted and seems to work09:31
reisio1.2, interesting number09:31
icerootdespe70: its fine and normally its done automaticly09:31
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despe70k09:31
loveTvL2386, cool, doesn't look like my audio device even shows up with lspci09:31
despe70so I can now just run "reboot" ?09:31
icerootdespe70: there are no extra steps needed. is the guide an official ubuntu-guide?09:32
compdocPhoenixSTF, I dont see why it would run out of ram with that much. its a 64bit version of Ubuntu?09:32
TvL2386love, so I suppose your issue is that you have no sound?09:32
despe70iceroot: yes, at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades09:32
_ramodid anyone of you set up sendmail to send simple mails from a server?09:32
icerootdespe70: ok09:32
rabbi1how can i share a file from ubuntu server remotely?09:32
reisiorabbi1: why09:32
TvL2386_ramo, I always use ssmtp09:32
PhoenixSTFcomdoc, 64 bit of debian, but they have run out of options so i came here09:32
TvL2386_ramo, very easy, no hastle09:33
_ramoTvL2386: yeah, but all i've done was sudo apt-get install sendmail and sudo sendmailconfig09:33
_ramono experience with this09:33
mecoIs it possible to amplify the volume in the headphones, using software, beyond what I get from using pavucontrol?09:33
loveIt shows my HDMI audio device but not my onboard audio chip seems to be hidden by that that intel HD biso09:33
icerootmeco: alsamixer09:33
reisiomeco: pavucontrol should be enough...09:33
compdocPhoenixSTF, are you running fsck at boot?09:33
TvL2386_ramo, all I know is that setting up sendmail is a bit of a challange.09:33
_ramoTvL2386: do i miss something?09:33
reisiomeco: you might try mplayer -af volume=10 though09:33
reisiomeco: start with 10, it's a lot09:33
PhoenixSTFcompdoc, nop how do i do that'09:33
jivjivHi I got following error. How do I resolve? http://pastebin.com/28s78xUk.09:33
loveNo TvL2386, I have always had sound09:34
TvL2386love, if you're using hdmi out, you have to select it in sound preferences?09:34
mecoWell, I'm watching a YouTube video, so mplayer is out of the question, I suppose.09:34
loveI am not using TvL2386 the HDMI audio out09:34
KamZouHi, i've a Bind9 with a (new) MySQL Backend, and i'm wondering why when i do this command : "host nnnnn.whatever.mydomain.lan"  i get multiple entries, do you know why ?09:34
icerootjivjiv: you are compiling at your own?09:34
TvL2386_ramo I have no experience setting up sendmail, so I don't know what you're doing wrong...09:35
jivjiviceroot : yes firefox09:35
reisiomeco: well you could download it with downloadhelper and play it, but yeah potentially inconvenient09:35
loveTvL2386, I never use it, it is just there okay09:35
reisiomeco: pavucontrol doesn't produce any change?09:35
icerootjivjiv: why not just using the firefox from the repos?09:35
TvL2386so love, you used to have audio, but the device disappeared09:35
compdocPhoenixSTF, depending on the options you have in fstab, its normally:  sudo shutdown -rF now09:35
mecoreisio: I already have pavucontrol at maximum09:35
loveTvL2386, I always have audio09:35
reisiomeco: but it did make a difference?09:35
jivjivjivjiv : I have modified the code a bit now I have moved code to new machine. But there areissues09:35
icerootmeco: use alsamixer09:35
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icerootmeco: pulseaudio is "just" working on top of alsa09:36
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jivjiviceroot : I have modified the code a bit now I have moved code to new machine. But there areissues09:36
mecoreisio: Well, no, since it was already at maximum before the current need arose...09:36
reisiomeco: okay... so if you lower the volume it changes?09:36
loveTvL2386, The issue is that my internal mic is not usable because the noise cancellation is not working in Ubuntu 11.0409:36
icerootjivjiv: as it seems you are missing files/packages. install the packages the error is suggesting09:36
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mecoalsamixer does it nicely!09:36
PhoenixSTFcompdoc, ok thanks, how do i check how many inodes i have on the FS09:37
TvL2386love, I see....09:37
mecoreisio: Sure, pavucontrol works09:37
loveIt works fine in 11.10 beta 209:37
compdocPhoenixSTF, Ive never had to know that09:37
jivjiviceroot : am very much new to ubuntu. Can you give me the exact apt-get install line to execute. I have been searching ubuntu packages but without success09:37
PhoenixSTFcompdoc, np ^ thnaks anyway09:37
Companiondoes 11.11 has Gnome 3.2? :O09:37
loveBut it is not stable enough for me for day to day work09:37
reisioso pavucontrol isn't aware of alsa's volume levels? :p09:38
reisiobit daft09:38
mecoseems so09:38
loveI am searching for a fix but am not coming up with anything09:38
TvL2386love, maybe this helps (don't think so): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176353609:38
TvL2386love http://blog.mageprojects.com/2009/03/24/get-your-microphone-working-in-ubuntu-904-and-skype-x64/09:39
icerootjivjiv: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev09:40
Johnny_GigglesI want a quick way of pastebinning code from the command line.  Is there a command that lets me copy a file to clipboard?09:40
gryJohnny_Giggles: 'pastebinit'09:41
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Johnny_Gigglesgry, I don't think ##c likes pastebin.org09:41
icerootJohnny_Giggles: echo "foo" | pastebinit09:41
jivjiviceroot : thanks.09:41
loveI just can't believe that this issue has been left unchanged in 11.04 for soooooo long!09:42
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rabbi1reisio: need to send a file of 200 MB09:42
gryJohnny_Giggles: it can use different pastebins as you configure it to. :-)09:42
loveAnyone here running 11.10 beta 2?09:42
reisiorabbi1: to where?09:43
reisiorabbi1: is it a web server?09:43
rabbi1reisio: from Bangalore to Belgium09:43
grylove: ask #ubuntu+1 ?09:43
sebsebseb!!love09:43
reisiorabbi1: that's awfully B-y09:43
sebsebseb!11.10 | love09:43
ubottulove: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+109:43
lovegry, sure09:43
compdoclove, I tried to use it: I installed it and then tried to set up Virtualbox. wasnt working09:43
grylove, good luck there. :-)09:43
lovecompdoc, I've had VB working just fine on it09:44
compdoclove, wait until its released09:44
reisiorabbi1: you could use scp09:44
rabbi1reisio: i have ubuntu server with net connection, now got to send/  share a file of 200 MB. so that the other person can download.09:44
reisiorabbi1: what OS is the other person on?09:44
loveWow so I ether have to reinstall windows or wait until 10.11 is released just so I can use my internal mic on my laptop09:45
rabbi1reisio: not sure, guess as Windows/ Mac09:46
rabbi1scp is only for intranet right09:46
reisiorabbi1: and the Ubuntu Server isn't a web server?09:46
loveSure wish I was raised as a Linux developer\09:46
reisiorabbi1: no it's for any ssh client/server09:46
reisiolove: I wish I was raised as supreme world overlord09:46
reisio...developer09:46
grylove: Feel free to try the beta and add any drivers you like. If they're stable, they may be added to 11.10 release.09:47
compdoc11.10 is to be released real soon now09:47
reisiolove: technically if there's something 11.10 can do, you can make it work with whatever version you have now09:47
reisiolove: you found some bug and they said it's fixed in 11.10 ?09:48
lovegry, it is more like I want to mod the driver some how in 11.0409:48
rabbi1reisio: ubuntu server is a webserver09:48
lovereisio, now we are talking!09:48
grylove: Feel free to do so. If this works better, you could try to open a bug and attach the patch.09:48
gry!bugs | love09:48
ubottulove: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.09:48
flexxxvhey, how do i get a kernel patch to 11.10?09:48
reisiorabbi1: okay, just put the file in your htdocs somewhere, then09:48
gryflexxxv: Ask #ubuntu+1 ?09:48
reisiorabbi1: and give your friend the URI (http://domain.tld/path/to/file)09:48
Operaist2i have a folder with a bunch of subfolders, i want to use cp -r ./[!b] ./backup; but how come this doesn't work?09:49
flexxxvgry09:49
flexxxvgry:ok thx09:49
rabbi1reisio: o, ok that can be done, great brb then09:49
reisioOperaist2: hrmm?09:49
jribOperaist2: what do you expect it to do?09:49
lovereisio, no I just tried 11.10 for a while and was sooooo sooooo happy that I could use my internal mic!09:49
loveIt was so clear and noise free!09:49
Operaist2jrib: i expect it to copy every other folders into the backup folder09:50
grylove: Ok. This is stable support channel - please do not discuss 11.10 here. You could try #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-devel for the other stuff. Thank you.09:50
jribOperaist2: what does "every other folders" mean?09:50
Operaist2jrib: pretty sure every other folder is self-explanatory09:51
jribOperaist2: not really.  What do you expect your "./[!b]" to do?09:51
Operaist2everything that doesnt start with b?09:51
lovegry, so do you have any ideas how to mod the audio driver in 11.04 to make the noise cancellation work correctly on my internal mic?09:51
reisiolove: chances are it's only a difference with the kernel or alsa versions09:51
jribOperaist2: it means every file that is exactly one character long and that character is not "b"09:52
lovereisio, yeah true that09:52
grylove: Sorry, I am not a developer myself, neither I know anything about Ubuntu 11.10, sorry. Other channels may know more.09:52
lovegry sure09:52
grylove: They must have a changes list somewhere, but I really don't know where, and they have a #ubuntu+1 to ask about this.09:53
NuxRohi, which version would you recommend for laptop use (lower specs laptop), 10.04 or 11.04 ?09:54
reisioNuxRo: define 'lower specs'09:54
gryNuxRo: What specs?09:54
NuxRoceleron cpu, 1 gb ram09:55
compdocI think 11.04 is faster, and has more drivers09:55
reisioNuxRo: celeron is nonspecific, do you have a model number?09:55
zaapiel11.10 running gnome 3 with compiz out the arse09:55
zaapielthats what i recommend09:55
soreauNuxRo: probably 10.04 since it's LTS and your machine likely has older intel gfx09:55
gryNuxRo: You might consider Lubuntu or Xubuntu in your choices there.09:55
NuxRoi read 11 has some nasty regressions in power usage and boot speed09:55
NuxRoi dont have a specific celeron model09:55
icerootNuxRo: 11.04 has the bug also like 10.1009:55
reisioNuxRo: are you on IRC with this system right now?09:55
compdoceasy enough to try both09:55
NuxRoreisio: no09:56
NuxRocompdoc: yeah, i think i'll try both09:56
NuxRocheers09:56
reisiowell, really hard to say09:56
reisio"celeron" covers like ... 700MHz to 2GHz+09:56
NuxRoreisio: it's more recent, probably in the 2 GHz range09:56
reisio1GB RAM isn't great, though, you can probably augment that on the cheap, though09:56
reisioNuxRo: see if crucial.com has any good deals for the ram right now, then you can use whatever without worry09:57
reisiojust another gig would vastly improve that box09:57
NuxRoreisio: but with it as it is (the owner is not interested in hardware upgrades atm), which version do you recommend?09:57
reisioNuxRo: I don't know, does it have a dedicated graphics device, or just onboard?09:58
SuhelHmmm09:58
rabbi1reisio: how can i do it, unable to , it's showing 0 bytes09:59
luckymuraliHi all09:59
reisiorabbi1: what is?09:59
reisioluckymurali: hi09:59
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NuxRoreisio: dont have that info, cheers anyway, will try 10.04 and take it from there10:00
reisio:p10:00
luckymuraliI installed ubuntu server on VMware10:00
luckymuraliversion 11.0410:00
reisioluckymurali: yeah?10:00
iceroot!enter | luckymurali10:00
ubottuluckymurali: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:00
AofAhello. attempting to install ubuntu 10.04 on a celeron 1.1 256 with active XP operating system. I manage to boot from live cd, but recieve this message: (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system. boot also take a very long time.10:01
reisioinstead use the bot as punctuation10:01
AofAany suggestions?10:01
Intel``hi guys i need help with traceroute. im tracing an ip address and there are 3 hops that missed. does this mean there's a problem with ISP?10:01
reisioAofA: try re-burning the media, use a slower speed10:01
reisioAofA: or use a USB stick if you can10:01
neo_21670hi, just a short question, i haven't been able to answer w/googling: do i have the option to install ubuntu server from a live DVD image, or dvd version is the same as desktop cd w/more packages on the install media?10:01
Silent_Samuraihttp://pastie.org/268200110:01
reisioneo_21670: the dvd has fluff you don't need10:02
icerootIntel``: depending who is managing the missing hosts10:02
reisioneo_21670: i18n stuff, IIRC10:02
AofAyou think the problem is with the live cd I made?10:02
MonkeyDustneo_21670: server is partitioned differently10:02
Intel``neo_21670,  dvd version i think it just an install DVD not live dvd10:02
OnkelTemI had some packages installed from PPA. Now I removed that ppa from APT list and want to install the packages from the main Ubuntu repository. How would I do this? When I issue: apt-get install --reinstall <package> it says: Reinstallation of gstreamer0.10-plugins-good is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. Why?10:02
icerootMonkeyDust: like?10:02
icerootMonkeyDust: what different layout does the server-edition have?10:02
SuhelFor the live medium error try plugging in the usb stick in a usb slot wiv2.010:02
MonkeyDusticeroot: /var and others are on separate partitions, i tried it10:03
kaz2057hi guy, I ask you an help to install an ubuntu server distro on a raid 0. Usually I install ubuntu desktop live, using apt-get install kpartx otherwise I cannot use raid configuration. Instead, using Ubuntu Server, I cannot install kpartx before the installation process, so it is impossibile for me install this on raid. Have you any solution please?10:03
icerootMonkeyDust: the only difference is that the server-edition is using pae by default on 32bit systems and doesnt have a gui10:03
Intel``iceroot, it seems its the isp issue because route in london in hop 6 then 7&8 missed10:03
reisiokaz2057: you can setup your raid with any live image you want10:03
MonkeyDusticeroot: i experienced other differences, too10:03
DrCooper\join #ror10:03
luckymuralii am able to ping any websites and If i try to do apt-get update I am getting the error failed to fetch10:03
reisioneo_21670: "Don't be confused…" — http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd10:03
icerootMonkeyDust: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server   like sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:04
kaz2057yes I know, but when I try to install ubuntu server on a partition raid, Ubuntu cannot see this partition ....10:04
kaz2057because Ubuntu server not include kpartx package ...10:04
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kaz2057I need to include kpartx in the installation cd/distro10:04
luckymuraliwhat may be the issue I stopped ufw & iptables10:05
luckymuralistill same issue10:05
icerootMonkeyDust: but interesting part about /var, i will check that later10:06
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AofAsuhel, reisio: Do I just copy the iso file to a usb stick and plug it in, or unzip the files to a usb stick?10:06
reisioAofA: you ca nuse an app like unetbootin10:06
reisiocan_use*10:06
kaz2057any helps please?10:07
harry_How to reference the gnome current display10:07
harry_windows10:07
reisioharry_: do what?10:07
icerootharry_: ?10:07
neo_21670thanks for the answers :)10:07
reisiokaz2057: you should be able to set up that stuff with any live system you like, one that has kpartx10:08
reisiokaz2057: and then come back and install to it10:08
harry_Means suppose there are 3 windows open on my current workspace , then i want to refrece my gnome..10:08
luckymuralii am able to ping any websites and If i try to do apt-get update I am getting the error failed to fetch, I disabled firewall what may be the issue?10:09
kaz2057ok but you can do it with a ubuntu desktop installation, not the server . you know if exist an ubuntu server live distro?10:09
Ben64luckymurali: can you "ping google.com"10:09
kaz2057I never see @_@10:09
AofAreisio: thank you, I will try that.10:09
luckymuraliyes10:09
reisioharry_: you'll have to be more clear10:09
Ben64luckymurali: pastebin the full apt-get error?10:09
harry_reisio:actually i m facing a strage situation where i run a installer and it apears behind the current window but if i switch between works stations then i m able to see that installation window10:10
reisiokaz2057: you saying the server install image doesn't have a 'use without installing' mode like the desktop version?10:10
reisioharry_: between workspaces?10:10
reisioharry_: what's wrong with that solution?10:10
Ben64if you have a window "Always on Top" it makes new windows come up behind10:11
Ben64at least on my ubuntu10:11
harry_reisio: it means that my current window has all the properties of current focus window but as a user point of view its hide behind the window....but i want the permenet solution,i dont want to switch between the work station every time10:12
Ben64harry_: if you have a window "Always on Top" it makes new windows come up behind, at least on my ubuntu10:12
ryannathansWhat options do i even have? I NEED a FAST storage medium availible to BOTH windows AND linux.10:13
Ben64ssd?10:13
ari_stressany korean speaking here?10:14
ryannathansBen64: I can't raid those -.-10:14
AofAreisio: I am creating a live usb stick now from iso file. Do I need to change my bios settings to boot from usb?10:14
Ben64ssd is faster than hdd raid10:14
reisioAofA: only if you do10:14
ryannathansBen64: it's not reliable or redundant10:14
ryannathansnor is it very big10:15
dr_willisryannathans:  like ntfs on a ssd10:15
AofAonly if I do...?10:15
dr_willisive seen ssd raid setups10:15
elliotexeHi10:15
ryannathansdr_willis: eh?10:15
kaz2057[12:10] <reisio> kaz2057: you saying the server install image doesn't have a 'use without installing' mode like the desktop version? ANSWER: it doesn't have ...10:15
dr_willisive seen ssd raid setups.. never used one.10:16
ryannathansdr_willis: they are horrid, never raid ssds10:16
ryannathansEVER10:16
elliotexeI can't wait until 26 April 2012. I am going to back up my files on Ubuntu (and the few that Windows 7 has not deleted ) and run Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as my main OS.10:16
reisiokaz2057: weird10:16
luckymuraliBen64: W: Failed to fetch <address> I am unable to copy and paste since it is running from remote desktop10:16
Ben64luckymurali: can you browse the internet in firefox or chrome or... whatever you browse in?10:18
kaz2057nothing?10:22
dr_willishmm?10:23
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harry_i knw i knw but but i m making my own installer using installjammer and its causing problem for me...thats its not working10:28
luckymuraliBen64: desktop is not installed10:28
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Wisienhi10:30
sgs2_usrcan anyone help troubleshoot problem with my Ubuntu 11.04? I try to launch VirtualBox, efax-gtk, google earth, skype , all crashes and bring me back to the login screen.10:30
Wisienwhat is winamp replacement for linux?10:30
sgs2_usri suspect anything to do with gtk interface from the app crashes10:30
sitzyWisien: xmms?10:31
MonkeyDustWisien: lmms10:33
MonkeyDustWisien: or audacious10:33
dr_willis!xmms10:34
ubottuxmms is no longer being developed, see http://bugs.debian.org/461309 for more details.  Consider using audacious or xmms2 instead.10:34
sitzyBeep Media Player10:34
elliotexeRhythmbox  is a pretty good alternative  to iTunes10:34
zaapielbeep media player10:35
dr_willisdozens of players iut there. some have been discontinued10:35
zaapieli used to chat with the developer of that10:35
zaapielnice guy10:35
MonkeyDustaudacious can even handle winamp skins, methinks10:35
dr_willisi thought beep was dead. :-$10:35
dr_willis!music10:35
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reisioyeah audacious is what you want10:38
reisioxmms2 is a different type of app, and a pretender10:39
pksadiqwell ask more at #ubuntu-bots ;)10:39
TheMiNdHello.  I am running Lucid Lynx on an old Macbook Pro 1,1... the disc drive doesn't work10:41
TheMiNdI suspect its a driver problem10:41
TheMiNddoes anyone know how I can fix this?10:41
siouX_hi, tomorrow, can i update my system normally? because, in older versions i have broken packages when i have update the system10:42
reisioTheMiNd: can you boot from a livecd and it works?10:42
TheMiNdI have no idea10:43
reisioTheMiNd: be a simple test to rule out hardware failure10:43
TheMiNdThere's no OSX on this, just ubuntu10:43
TheMiNdThis computer is a loaner from the friend10:43
TheMiNd*from a friend10:43
MonkeyDustsiouX_: restart in Recover Mode (grub) en choose Repair10:44
reisioTheMiNd: CDs are really tedious low capacity versions of USB sticks anyways10:44
siouX_MonkeyDust, what? to update?10:45
MonkeyDustsiouX_: to repair the broken packages10:45
dayana_emhello10:45
TheMiNdI need to fix the CD drive if possible for now10:46
siouX_MonkeyDust, ok, so tomorrow i can update with apt-get normally10:46
siouX_i need change the repository, right?10:46
MonkeyDustsiouX_: i guess it's dist-upgrade10:46
dayana_emi have a translation of empathy  in .po format.But don't know how to install it,. plz help me10:47
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dayana_emsiouX_, 10:48
dayana_emi have a translation of empathy in .po format.But don't know how to install it,. plz help me10:49
tVenchey guys10:50
tVenci have a quick question10:50
tVencif i update now from 11.04 to 11.10 beta10:50
dayana_emhmm10:51
tVenccan i later update to full version of 11.10?10:51
rabbi1reisio: hey, kindly help, tried all10:51
dayana_emi think yes.10:51
tVenci remember earlear10:51
tVenci updated to beta10:51
dayana_emthe updates will be just security updates10:52
tVencbut when full came out it didn't shoved me to update to full10:52
tVencso it10:52
tVencso it's better to wait for full?10:52
vltHello. Where does brasero store its list of recent projects? How to remove an item from it?10:52
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vltIt's not in .config/brasero10:52
auronandacetVenc: it should be released on 13th, so can't you wait?10:53
geirhadayana_em: You first need to convert it to a .mo file with msgfmt. Then put it in the right directory. Look under /usr/share/locale/10:53
tVencmaybe i will and second question is it still not safe to update to gnome3?10:54
auronandacetVenc: gnome3 is not supported in 11.04, but it will be in 11.1010:54
elliotexeCan I install XP on VirtualBox using a CD?10:54
jribelliotexe: sure10:55
tVencthat is why i want to go to 11.10 i hate this unity10:55
elliotexeI have only done it using an ISO. When it asks for the file I can't get it to work10:55
geirhavlt: I don't know, but you could try creating and saving a new project, then shortly after, run   find . -mmin -2  to see all files changed within the last two minutes.10:55
tVencbut still what is the difference if i update today to 11.10.10:55
auronandacetVenc: i get the feeling there are going to be a lot of upgrade issues so it would likely be better to install arfresh when 11.10 is released10:55
rabbi1how can i share a file to a remote location from ubuntu server ?10:55
reisioelliotexe: you can't get VirtualBox to boot from an ISO?10:56
reisiorabbi1: ...10:56
vltgeirha: Looks like there's an sqlite db .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite where it's stored.10:56
rabbi1reisio: I  have copied the file to webserver location, how can i access now10:56
tVencyea i'm thinking about installing fresh 11.1010:56
rabbi1e.g.: i am trying ftp://localhost/foldername/filename10:56
auronandacetVenc: you'd need to update again tomorrow for the stable release10:56
elliotexeJust downloading a ISO.10:57
tVencit will be possible to do that?10:57
th0relliotexe: if you want to use a CD, check the box for live CD/DVD10:57
auronandacetVenc: that is the only difference10:57
reisiorabbi1: ah10:58
tVencbecause as i said earlier when i updated to beta when full came out there was no update suggestions10:58
reisiorabbi1: you would actually need the server connected to a domain or public IP10:58
reisiorabbi1: better go back to scp10:58
rabbi1reisio: but its showing nothing.10:58
reisiorabbi1: is sshd running?10:58
auronandacetVenc: it is never recommended to upgrade to or from a beta release10:58
reisioth0r: that shouldn't matter to it working10:59
PrincePrince10:59
tVencok thanks for help10:59
rabbi1reisio: i am pretty new to this10:59
reisiorabbi1: pgrep -l ssh10:59
vltWhen I try to remove an entry from sqlite db .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite I get "database is locked". How to fic this?11:00
th0rreisio: in the newest version of virtualbox you can choose an iso file for the virtual cd, but the only way to tell it to use the native drive is to check the liveCD box11:00
vlt*fix11:00
rabbi1reisio: yeah, running11:00
elliotexeI did that I also changed it so it would boot from CD first..I am still having problems11:00
PrinceAS A MEMBER11:01
vltI get "database is locked" for every command I try to run on .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite. Even ".databases".11:01
Calinousudo was invented for a reason, I guess11:01
reisiorabbi1: k, I don't suppose you and your friend both use an IM client?11:01
vltHow can I stop Ubuntu asking me whether I want to log out when I clicked on "logout"?11:02
MonkeyDustvlt: try ubuntu-tweak11:04
rabbi1reisio: i have no idea what my client is using, and unable to communicate instantly :( so got to give the link for a file and forget it.11:04
zaapielmay i speak to mark shuttleworth11:05
zaapielid liek to ask him how it feels to be the first african in space11:05
zaapieland also does he think thats kind of a dick move to be first with him being white and all?11:05
zaapieli kind of thought it was11:06
MonkeyDustzaapiel: please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic11:06
ace__will adding several ppa s slow the system down?11:07
Myrttiace__: depending on how much and what you install from them11:08
vsync_zaapiel :D11:08
geirhaace__: An apt-get update will be slower, since it needs to download more package lists, but in general it won't slow the system down.11:08
auronandaceace__: more ppas you use the more likely something could go wrong; ppas are unsupported11:09
rabbi1reisio: any other way?11:13
reisiorabbi1: ah and forget it11:17
ndrjI just created a new ext4 partition, however, I can't make any changes in it from the normal GUI, seems to be read only. I assume I have to sudo, but I have no idea what to type to access that particular partition in the terminal.11:18
reisiorabbi1: how about a dropbox account, have one of those?11:18
rabbi1reisio: thats better :) will share from torrent11:18
reisiorabbi1: that could work... but could also be problematic11:18
ndrjIt has a folder in it, and that folder shows up at "File System" too. So I guess it's just bunched up regardless of what partition it belongs to?11:18
reisiorabbi1: I pretty awful but simple way would be to put it in a password protected archive (7z a -mx=0 -p foo.7z originalfile) and upload to a file sharing site: http://multiupload.com/11:19
ndrjhow do I refer to a specific partition as a path, is what I'm asking, I guess.11:19
reisiorabbi1: then give your client the file sharing link11:19
rabbi1reisio: that's ok, doesn't matter, will try to send through torrent, i have already uploaded to megashare.com11:19
reisiowell megashare should suffice11:19
rabbi1megashare.com gives you password protected download, which i have already done :)11:20
ndrji guess i use the "mount" command?11:20
HarrehDhello, anyone here able to help me troubleshoot my new install of ubuntu?11:20
reisiorabbi1: should suffice11:20
toshibais this freenode?11:20
reisiondrj: to do what?11:20
reisiotoshiba: look at your window's title bar11:21
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rabbi1reisio: thanks a lot11:21
ndrjreisio:  I just made a new partition, ext4, and I wish to access it. I think Ubuntu mounted it automatically, but I can't write to it.11:21
reisiondrj: how do you know you can't write to it11:21
toshibathanks11:21
ndrjreisio: I opened it in the GUI and tried to add a folder to it, but it was greyed out :(11:22
ndrjreisio: but then again, it should show up as a folder in "/" too, right?11:22
despe70any reason why ubuntu 10.04 still has dovecot 1.2.9 intead of the 2.x version ?11:22
reisiondrj: what does 'mount' say about it?11:22
ndrjreisio: what is the command to list all partitions, again? so I can check which is which, first.11:23
clockwizehi, i want to run a script every 30 minutes in ubuntu desktop, the script opens browser windows (automated tests) so i don't think it can run through cron?11:23
auronandace!latest | despe7011:23
ubottudespe70: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.11:23
clockwizeas that's for background tasks11:23
reisiodespe70: because it's old?11:23
reisioubottu: that's a good one :p11:23
ubottureisio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:23
reisioubottu: not much chance of that, heh11:24
ubottureisio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:24
psycoseHi, using vsftpd, I would like to keep using ftp without SSL for my current users, but force a new virtual user to use SFTP, any tips ? thanks11:24
ndrjah fdisk -1?11:24
reisio(proves its own point)11:24
toshibay cant i connect to freenode?11:24
despe70reisio: "old" as in "the last LTS version"11:24
reisiondrj: yeah11:24
reisiodespe70: old is old11:24
reisiodespe70: why is it you want 211:24
toshibacause i want to learn python11:25
ndrjoh l, not 111:25
Companiontoshiba, your on freenode :P11:25
auronandace!register | toshiba11:25
ubottutoshiba: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode11:25
auronandacetoshiba: some channels require that you register your nick11:26
ndrjreisio: /dev/sda3 on /media/b9b27d68-c606-402b-ad9d-9d636ec453aa type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)11:26
ndrjreisio: oh, that's mounted as the media folder on /?11:26
RobinJWineHQ AppDB has been hacked. If you used the same password on multiple sites, change them as fast as possible. (so i'm screwed with using the same password on 200+ sites...)11:26
toshibawow thank you and sorry for being so dumb11:26
reisiondrj: no, as 'b9b27....' in the /media/ dir11:27
auronandacetoshiba: no worries :)11:27
ndrjreisio: haha, can I mount it as something better, directly under / instead?11:27
reisiondrj: yes, just mkdir /somethingbetter and add a line to /etc/fstab11:27
auronandacendrj: why do you want it under /?11:27
ndrjauronandace: dunno, where do you suggest i put it?11:28
reisio/mnt/ is tradition11:28
ndrjaha11:28
auronandacendrj: either /media or /mnt/11:28
reisiobut /media/ works just as well11:28
ndrjok11:28
ndrjndrj:  so /media/somethingbetter11:28
ndrjetc/fstab is a config ifle?11:28
ndrjfile*11:28
reisioit is indeed11:28
ndrjgetting the hang of this11:28
ndrjx)11:28
reisioif you use e2label to give it a meaningful label, it's possible the system will use it instead of the UUID11:29
ndrjreisio: ah, duh. i left label out when I made it...11:29
reisiosudo e2label /dev/whatever fancynamehere11:29
reisiondrj: well I'm not sure it'll use it, but if it's smart it will11:30
reisiootherwise it's back to /etc/fstab11:30
ndrjreisio: is that something i need to install?11:30
flummyhttp://666kb.com/i/bxqa3uy26lkhpx1ua.png11:30
reisiondrj: you probably already have e2label11:30
reisiondrj: you definitely already have /etc/fstab :)11:30
toshibawhere could i register please?11:30
reisiotoshiba: /msg nickserv help register11:31
ndrjreisio: yeah i did, so "sudo e2label sda3 blabl" ?11:31
flummymy xterms have redraw error, what could that be11:31
auronandacetoshiba: ask in #freenode11:31
reisiotoshiba: /msg nickserv help identify11:31
flummy(see 666kb url)11:31
flummy+s11:31
reisiondrj: probably sudo e2label /dev/sda3 blah, yes11:31
toshibathanks thanks11:32
reisiondrj: and I don't know if the auto mount system will bother remounting it without you rebooting or telling it to (mount -o remount ?)11:32
ndrjreisio: was just about to ask, as it didnt change. maybe I have to remount it?11:33
phlak_userflummy: this normally happens if you resize the terminal while a curses prog is running; pressing ctl+l would force redraw11:33
reisiondrj: yeah I don't see why they'd bother having it check if you change label and remount it :p could cause problems11:33
ndrjreisio: but a restart should do it? feels safer than me fiddling with mount or fstab11:34
clockwizegnome cron11:34
flummyphlak_user: i need to redraw all the time, xterms used to run for months without any glitches, and it has never been resized11:34
reisiondrj: if it's goingi to work at all, yes11:34
flummyphlak_user: happens with ls as well11:35
ndrjreisio: i'll try, if not, i'll explore the beauty of fstab11:35
Travis-42Can anyone recommend a GUI video recording program? All I can find is Cheese, and it just locks up.11:35
ndrjbrb11:35
flummyphlak_user: but thanks, was just trying to find out if anyone knows this problem :)11:35
phlak_userflummy: did you set non-standard geometry of xterm somewhere?11:35
reisioTravis-42: for your webcam?11:36
flummyphlak_user: don't think so... i forgot the location/name of the X11 resource file though11:36
Travis-42reisio, yep11:36
flummymaybe /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm11:36
Sidewinder1Travis-42, FFMPEG has a front-end GUI called Winff (should be in the Repos.) but I'm not sure it records as I don't use it.11:36
reisioTravis-42: what is it you want the GUI to do?11:36
reisioSidewinder1: just for format conversion11:37
Sidewinder1OIC11:37
Yamauchiwhat time GMT will 11.10 be released?11:37
Travis-42reisio, watch the video while it's being recorded, quickly play back to see that everything went right, on the fly configure things like contrast, etc., all the things that webcam video recording GUIs on Mac and Windows make much easier11:37
flummyphlak_user: app-defaults/XTerm seems to be unmaimed :)11:38
flummyno XTerm~ backup file around :)11:38
Travis-42Sidewinder1, I'll check it out11:38
reisioTravis-42: WinFF is just for format conversion11:38
phlak_userflummy: you could poke inside Edit->Profile Preferences in the Xterm menu11:39
flummyphlak_user: hm? i am talking about /usr/bin/xterm, i don't know of a Edit function in the xterm menus reached via Ctrl+leftclick/ rightclick :)11:40
phlak_userflummy: oh ok; i was imagining the GNome Terminal :)11:40
flummyphlak_user: no i can't stand that one :)11:41
reisioTravis-42: should probably fix your Cheese, or switch to using ${media player of choice} for playback and ffmpeg for post-processing11:41
Travis-42reisio, yea, I'll see if I can find out why Cheese locks up since it seems to be the only linux tool11:41
Travis-42thanks11:42
flummyphlak_user: i will probably start by turning compiz visual effects off, right?11:43
prabal#android11:43
flummyis there a simple way to turn compiz visual effects off without unchecking 20 checkboxes?11:43
ndrjreisio: yeah, it worked.11:44
reisiondrj: good times11:44
phlak_userflummy: sure; or try starting xterm with different -geometry values11:44
flummyphlak_user: i think it's not the geometry11:44
flummyphlak_user: happened to other xterms with other geometrys as well11:44
ndrjreisio: what the hell is this "lost+found" folder in it, though? :D11:44
flummyits probably a redraw problem11:44
flummyhappens only in xterm tough11:44
phlak_userndrj: its similar to that cupboard you had at school :)11:44
reisiondrj: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.html#lostfound11:45
phlak_userflummy: sure11:45
reisiondrj: if it's on an otherwise empty new partition you can just rm it11:45
flummyprobably some 16 year old gnome progammer was not aware of the full 1980 X11 spec used by the not so young xterm :)11:45
ndrjreisio: it is. so I'll do that11:45
flummyand gnome programmes are probably all using gnome-terminal11:45
flummyhehe11:45
auronandaceTravis-42: you could try vlc too (vlc can use my in-built camera)11:46
ndrjreisio: however, I can't seem to write to it, from the GUI. do I have to change permissions?11:46
reisiondrj: sudo chown youruser:youruser /media/fooowoink might suffice11:46
ndrjreisio: haha i'll try :)11:47
skiprhello11:47
reisiohi11:48
skipri have a problem with linux 3.0.411:48
skipri installed it on my ubuntu 10.1011:48
ndrjreisio: sure did11:48
skiprand now gdm3 crashes at startup11:48
ndrjreisio: you're the man :P11:48
auronandaceskipr: that is not supported11:48
skiprwauronandace what is not supported?11:48
jamey-ukSuddenly my server has stopped booting, it just sits with a flashing cursor waiting to boot. It's an EFI machine, and the disk seems to be GPT, but I don't know what's wrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706649/ Can anyone help?11:49
auronandaceskipr: 3.0.4 on 10.10 (and gnome3)11:49
flummyauronandace: interesting, why not?11:49
skipreveryone would be better off with 3.0.4 and 10.1011:49
skiprbecause 11.04 and newer use unity and gnome311:49
ndrjwill paths in a config file allow for spaces?11:50
skiprboth of which suck a major woody11:50
flummyi think 11.04 has gnome 211:50
skipryea but unity11:50
auronandaceskipr: you can use gnome2 on 11.0411:50
ndrjas in "/media/blabla/downloaded torrents/"?11:50
skipryes11:50
flummyskipr: very easy to remove11:50
skiprbut i also want to use latest kernel11:50
ndrjor do I have to use something like %2011:50
ndrj:P11:50
skiprshould i get a different login manager?11:50
flummyskipr: maybe you need to turn on the new lie-about-kernel-version feature11:50
flummyso that the 3. series kernels pretends to be 2.611:51
ndrjah nvm, ill just avoid spaces in folder names11:51
skiprflummy nah11:51
skiproh11:51
skiprthat thing11:51
skipri'll try that when im back home11:51
skiprthanks guys11:51
skiprsee ya11:51
flummyauronandace: what is the technical reason for gnome2 not supporting 3 series kernels?11:53
ndrjreisio: I assume that, if I give a user permission to a folder, it gives permission to all subfolders of that folder as well?11:53
auronandaceflummy: i never said that11:53
ikoniaflummy: where did you read that ?11:53
Travis-42auronandace, I'll try vlc too, thanks11:54
flummyauronandace: oh, what did you say then? :)=11:54
ndrjreisi: you reisio? :P11:54
auronandaceflummy: 10.10 doesn't support gnome3 or the linux 3 kernel11:54
spectusGNHello, I've written a little shellScript i want to run while bootup. So I made a line to rc.local. The script asks for user input, but the boot process just continues, so i can't write anything. What can I do to stop boot while script is running?11:54
reisindrj: nope, chuck testa11:54
sajimonhello, im having tough timer mapping samba server share on mine ubuntu machine via cifs, cant anyone check this error http://wklej.org/id/606686/11:55
flummyauronandace: and what is the technical reason for 10.10 not supporting kernels with 3-series version numbering?11:55
flummyexcuse my inquisitive style11:55
icerootflummy: 10.10 is supporting both, but we dont support it here11:55
phlak_usersajimon: seems like a very good reason -> NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE11:55
icerootflummy: you can install gnome3 and linux 3.0 on 10.1011:55
flummywell you should say that then11:55
auronandaceflummy: there is nothing technical stopping you from installing kernel 3 on 10.10, it just isn't supported by #ubuntu11:55
flummyfair enough11:55
flummybut you should put it that way :)11:56
reisisajimon: just like phlak_user said; authentication (or perhaps authorization) error11:56
sajimonphlak_user: im sure password is okay, in fact its working on another linux machine11:56
spectusGNHello, I've written a little shellScript i want to run while bootup. So I made a line to rc.local. The script asks for user input, but the boot process just continues, so i can't write anything. What can I do to stop boot while script is running?11:57
phlak_usersajimon: if you have smbclient, you could run that and check11:57
phlak_user!repeat| spectusSN11:57
ubottuspectusSN: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/11:57
reisisajimon: could it be that you cannot have two connections with the same authentication? (just guessing)11:58
holtgrew_Hi, I have a problem with wmii. "wmiir read /" prints a lot of binary garbage, including my user name, interleaved with what I would it expect to print. Does anyone have a guess what's going wrong?11:58
flummyspectusGN: the easy way would be to replace upstart with the conventional system V init scripts, but there are probably sveral (deprecated or current) tools to prompt for user input in the upstart boot process11:58
flummyseveral11:59
jamey-ukDoes anyone know how to get GRUB working with a GPT partition on a UEFI machine?11:59
n0ti0nishi!12:02
ejvhere i was... about to answer jamey-uk12:02
n0ti0nisI need help, I really don't understand how to use PPA12:02
ejvand he just leaves... lol12:02
n0ti0nisI've built a kernel for desktop use12:02
n0ti0nisand i wanna upload my .deb packages12:03
n0ti0nison a PPA12:03
n0ti0nisI read wiki and tutorial but I didn't understad :(12:03
Singham!enter | n0ti0nis12:03
ubottun0ti0nis: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:03
n0ti0nisHow can I upload my .deb packages on my PPA? I've built a kernel for desktop use12:04
ejvn0ti0nis: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA12:04
phlak_userspectusGN: one way could be to put the script inside the /etc/rcS.d directory (you can read the README file there for details)12:05
comitthello. if i installed xfce desktop environment, do i still have grub2 as the boot loader?12:05
ejvcomitt: desktop environments are independent of the underlying bootloader, so most likely yes, you still do12:05
icerootcomitt: sure12:05
icerootcomitt: the desktop has nothing to do with the grub-package12:05
phlak_usercomitt: the DE is like the upholstery in your car and grub2 is like your starter motor12:06
comittgksu isnt working in xfce, should i just use su/sudo? i tried to tuse the command gksu gedit /etc/default/grub, but nothing shakes12:06
ejvholtgrew_: wmii is outside the scope of support this channel can provide, i suggest the wmii forum, mailing list, etc...12:06
icerootcomitt: gksudo12:06
comittthanks12:07
xanguaCommander1024: because gedit is not installed on kubuntu¿12:07
phlak_usercomitt: gk might not work at all since its dependent on the gtk+ environment which may or may not be present in your system12:07
xanguai mean xubuntu/xfce12:07
comittgksudo worked :)12:07
xanguathat was for comitt :/12:07
Commander1024i see ;-)12:08
comittto update grub2 under xubuntu, its gksudo update-grub2, right? just making sure :)12:08
phlak_usercomitt: after editing /etc/default/grub12:10
hexacodehow can i specify a name for a symbolic link in the same line i use to create it?12:10
comittyes indeed phlak_user12:10
phlak_userhexacode: ln -s /path/to/file /name/of/symlink12:11
hexacodethanks12:11
phlak_userhexacode: yw12:11
comittany idea why xubuntu is updating today like 50 updates? just curious12:12
ndrjcan I use screen to detach and make a terminal window of its own?12:13
phlak_userndrj: you can create many new screens by pressing ctl+a+c12:13
ejvndrj: what?12:14
ejvphlak_user apparently speaks confusing, well done mate ;)12:14
phlak_userndrj: if you meant the *screen* package12:14
rvmexit12:14
ndrjno idea, im an utter linux noob12:14
phlak_userejv: tx :)12:14
ndrj:D12:14
ndrjbut i think s12:14
ndrjo12:14
ejv"one screen session should be enough for anyone..." :D12:15
ndrjright now I can switch between my "screen" and my normal terminal with ctrl-D and then screen -r12:15
phlak_userejv: unless you are on a remote session12:15
ndrjbut I'd like to see both at the same time, and just alt-tab between them? :P12:15
ejvwas a play on the infamous 640K ram bill gates joke :p12:15
flummyndrj: screen supports creation and switching betweenmultiple sessions12:16
phlak_userndrj: not sure what it is you want to achieve12:16
ndrjhaha12:16
flummyndrj: just press ctrl+a+c like phlak_user said12:16
ndrjflummy nothing happened, probably because im "inside" rtorrent, already, though?12:16
ejvndrj: yes you can have them both in their own 'tiles', ctrl + a + c , then to move, ctrl + a + n, to move backward ctrl + a + backspace12:16
ndrjalright12:17
flummyndrj: first press ctrl a, then release ctrl a, then press c12:17
ndrjahaaa12:17
phlak_userndrj: and ctl+a+0, ctl+a+1 etc to switch between them12:17
flummyndrj: now type "man screen" without the ""12:17
flummyand hit enter12:17
phlak_userflummy: you the "man" :)12:18
ejvi prefer cycling with [N] and [BCKSP], easier than reaching for number row12:18
flummy:)12:18
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ndrjok, now i can switch between them12:19
flummyndrj: now type "man screen" without the ""12:19
flummyand hit enter12:19
ndrjflummy:  yeah i did, wall of text crit me for 500k damage12:19
flummywell noone said unix was for wow gamers12:20
ndrjjust saying =)12:20
flummydon't be afraid, it's only text12:20
flummyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng12:21
iuytfrhi12:21
iuytfrhi12:21
ndrjanwyay, what i asked was...since im running this fancy graphical userface and not only a bash prompt thingie, if I could have two terminal windows side by side, on my screen?12:21
phlak_userhi12:21
ndrjerr, interface*12:21
ndrjlol userface :D12:21
iuytfris it possible to change disk name by command line ? for example i want to change sdb disk to sdc possible ?12:22
phlak_userndrj: just spawn two terminal windows and arrange them side-by-side12:22
flummyndrj: you mean like that: http://koffein.org/b/desktop.jpg (screenshot from 1998)12:22
phlak_useriuytfr: volume label or disk nomenclature?12:23
ndrjphlak_user: I guess i got confused by...well, when I clicked terminal again it just brought me to my first windows, so I assumed there's only support for 1 at a time.. :D12:23
ndrjwindow*12:23
Picindrj: 'terminator' might interest you.12:23
phlak_userndrj: it probably spawned it over the old one; just move it to the side12:23
ndrjphlak_user: this might sound stupid, but is it possible to start a new terminal window by typing in the first terminal window? :D12:26
iuytfrno remember12:26
Myrttindrj: sure12:26
ndrjMyrtti: what's the command? cause terminal didnt work :P12:26
phlak_userndrj: yes, but the second one also gets destroyed if you close the first one12:26
iuytfri simply want to umount sdb and mount it on sdc12:27
Myrttindrj: gnome-terminal& depending on what you are running12:27
phlak_userndrj: gnome-terminal12:27
ndrjphlak_user: gah, i see. any way around this?12:27
ndrjMyrtti: thanks12:27
MrElendigiuytfr: you don't mount anything in /dev/12:27
phlak_userndrj: oh i stand corrected; it actually stays on12:27
MrElendigiuytfr: and why care about the device name? Use UUID or LABEL instead of you want it to be reliable12:27
flummyiuytfr: the sdb,sdc identifiers are allocated by the system12:28
flummyyou should not try to change them12:28
flummyas they IDENTIFY the disk in question12:28
ndrjphlak_user: awesome, finally I can have rtorrent in a window of its own12:28
MAREK_BENC_NetBndrj: Or make a terminal-starting daemon that launches at startup, and you just need to send it a signal to open up a terminal12:28
phlak_userndrj: ok12:28
ndrjMAREK_BENC_NetB: i've heard about this daemon thing, I'd have to read about it though12:29
MAREK_BENC_NetBMay i ask? Is ubuntu a good choice for a Netbook OS? (Currently, I'm running Debian Testing on it, and i want something fresh and fancy)12:29
flummyiuytfr: do you copy?12:29
MrElendigMAREK_BENC_NetB: works just fine, might not want to run gnome/unity though12:30
phlak_userMAREK_BENC_NetB: ive been running ubuntu on my eepc's since the 70112:30
icerootMAREK_BENC_NetB: try it with a live-cd but normally ubuntu is one of your best choices for newer systems12:30
ndrjmy friend sayd he ran rtorrent with a daemon thingie, something about "rtorrent -d"12:30
phlak_userMAREK_BENC_NetB: im now on a eeepc 1500 with unity12:30
MAREK_BENC_NetBCause debian with Xfce mixed up just for my taste is beggining to boar me.12:31
ndrjdidn't really understand what it did, though12:31
dottyMAREK_BENC_NetB: the unity UI works really well on netbooks/small-screen laptops.. better than on larger screens imo12:31
flummyMAREK_BENC_NetB: there are light weight alternatives for systems with less than 4GB of ram12:31
flummyMAREK_BENC_NetB: i wouldn't use ubuntu on 2GB ram12:31
MAREK_BENC_NetBIt's 1G12:31
icerootflummy: why?12:31
dottyi've used ubuntu on 1GB of RAM perfectly well12:31
flummywell use a lightweight derivate then12:31
phlak_userflummy: i havent had an issue (but i could not be a typical user)12:31
Yamauchialso on an eee pc12:31
icerootflummy: you want to say 2gb ram is not enough for ubuntu? (unity or gnome2)12:32
Yamauchiwondering if kubuntu would be better12:32
nnfxi use ubuntu on 1gb ram12:32
flummyiceroot: because lightweight alternatives provide about 5 times the performance if the base system consumes less than 105% of available RAM12:32
icerootflummy: lubuntu12:32
flummyiceroot: it just does not perform well12:32
MAREK_BENC_NetBI once used UNR on this netbook, but it sucked badly compared to normal desktop ubuntu of that time.12:32
flummyiceroot: for example, yes12:32
icerootflummy: also please read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/12:33
ndrjuh ok, when i ran "sudo gnome-terminal" it opened as the user root. this is not recommended, I guess?12:33
ndrjxD12:33
icerootndrj: its not recommend12:33
flummyiceroot: i'm a computer scientist and have advanced degrees in software engineering and soon computer systems engineering, thank you very much12:33
MrElendigMAREK_BENC_NetB: I prefer a tiler on netbooks. More efficient in regards to screen space, and most importantly, much easier to controll by keyboard, which is somewhat important since the pads on most netbooks are rather crappy12:34
n2iHi!12:34
icerootflummy: then its sad that you dont know the link i have posted :(12:34
MrElendigflummy: you should know better than to post fud then12:35
flummyit is just a measured fact12:35
n2iHow I make Ubuntu font family display Vietnamese character correctly?12:35
flummylubuntu/LXDE should be much better for a 1GiB system12:35
MrElendigflummy: not that you can't run openbox on ubuntu either etc...12:36
phlak_usern2i: have you got the Vietnamese fonts installed?12:36
flummyMrElendig: what should that have to do with VRAM usage?12:36
faLUCEhi, I deleted some files from an usb stick. Is there a way to recover them? I couldn't find them in the local trash12:37
MAREK_BENC_NetBMrElendig: My Debian Testing XFce Setup is very clean, and gives me a lot of space to work with. One of the main reasons i gone to to Debian is that with UNR, i had a thick ugly bar on the left side of my screen. I hope by this tyme they removed that ugly thick bar.12:37
icerootfaLUCE: not really12:37
n2iphlak_user: Vietnamese font? Did you mean fonts support Vietnamese char?12:37
iceroot!recover | faLUCE12:37
ubottufaLUCE: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel12:37
MrElendigflummy: only difference betwen lubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop enviroment and default services run etc12:37
icerootfaLUCE: but normally its not possible12:37
flummyMrElendig: i think the relevant claimed difference is in VRAM usage?12:38
BluesKajHiyas all12:38
TehDGMbut if its still using less then 1 gb in both cases, it wouldnt make much of a difference would it12:38
n2iSome font such as: Droid or Linux Biolinum is fully display Vietnamese chars but Ubuntu font doesnot12:38
TehDGMbecause it wont page to hd until > 1gb12:38
flummyTehDGM: wrong.12:39
flummyTehDGM: caching/paging determine the system's speed12:39
flummyno ram = no caching12:39
dottyflummy, sure that the issue isn't with graphics performance, etc? i'd say that's the main issue on laptops which usually use integrated (intel integrated drivers are somewhat lacking in my experience on linux)12:39
gleydsonhello i need some hel12:39
gleydson*help12:39
flummydotty: yes.12:39
gleydsoni want to install a tar.gz file but i cant12:40
hackedfocusgleydson: what is it exactly that you want to install?12:40
gleydsonthis openerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz12:40
jatttar xvzf openerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz12:40
gleydsoni do that but later i dnt know what do12:41
MrElendiggleydson: use the package system instead.12:41
gleydsoni use the ./config12:41
MrElendiggleydson: and if noone have packaged, not even in ppa, then atleast use checkinstall12:41
phlak_userback12:41
hackedfocusyou can ext:l12:42
gleydsoni need this packaged too12:42
phlak_usern2i: http://www.unifont.org/fontguide/ should help you with the unicode fonts12:42
gleydsoni dnt find thi on the system12:42
bucaneirohow to unstall chrome?12:42
gleydson*this12:42
bhushHello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!12:42
bucaneirochrome is troubling me12:42
xanguabucaneiro: sudo apt-get remove packagename12:43
MrElendigbucaneiro: how did you install it in the first place?12:43
BluesKajbucaneiro, how did you install it ?12:43
TehDGMbucaneiro: sudo apt-get remove chrome-browser12:43
TehDGMi think thats the packagename12:43
TehDGMcause just plain chrome is a game12:43
bucaneirook, thanks12:43
gleydsonanyone to help me about the openerp-web?12:44
phlak_userTehDGM: its actually chromium12:44
phlak_user!info chromium12:44
ubottuPackage chromium does not exist in natty12:44
phlak_useroh12:44
TehDGM!info chrome-browser12:44
ubottuPackage chrome-browser does not exist in natty12:44
TehDGM!info chromium-browser12:44
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.0.742.112~r90304-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 (natty), package size 16095 kB, installed size 55952 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 all)12:44
bhushHello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!12:44
TehDGM:)12:44
xangua!info chromium-browser | phlak_user TehDGM12:44
ubottuphlak_user TehDGM: please see above12:44
phlak_userok12:44
bucaneiroblank screen?12:44
TehDGMbots aren't allowed to talk to me :)12:44
bhushHello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!12:45
TehDGMye its chromium then :)12:45
dottybhush: does it use ATI graphics?12:45
bhushHello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!12:45
Pici!repeat|  bhush12:45
ubottubhush: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:45
bhushdotty : yes12:45
gleydsonany idea about my question?12:46
dottytried "radeon.modeset = 0"?12:46
phlak_usergleydson: what was it please?12:46
dottysorry..12:46
dottytried "radeon.modeset=0"?12:46
bhushyes12:46
dottyah.. no clue then, sorry12:46
dottyi've had trouble in the past with such though12:46
bhushOk12:47
phlak_userbhush:  you dont even have a text console? pressing ctl-alt-f1 can bring it up12:47
gleydsonneed to install something and i cant12:47
phlak_usergleydson: ok so what is it12:47
dottyphlak_user, highly doubt that'll work12:47
dottyscreen goes completely blank12:47
gleydsonopenerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz12:47
Pici!doesntwork | gleydson12:47
ubottugleydson: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.12:47
bhushwhen shud I press ctrl+alt+f1 to bring text console12:48
xangua!compile | gleydson12:48
ubottugleydson: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall12:48
phlak_userdotty: lets remove that doubt by testing it out eh?12:48
n2iphlak_user: This 'style' make Ubuntu font display Vietnamese chars very nicely, on the web, of course. How to make it on desktop (I mean on GUI suck as gtk app and so on)12:48
n2ihttp://userstyles.org/styles/37610/ubuntu-font-on-facebook-userstyles-google-etc12:48
gleydson!compile12:48
dottyphlak_user, aye.. just saying12:48
IsumiHi, lately I have been having random crashes on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop. the mouse cursor is still moving , but nothing else works. It's still possible to connect via ssh though. any idea what can be the problem?12:48
phlak_userbhush: when you have a blank screen12:48
gleydsoni try all possibilities12:48
bhushafter booting....!!12:48
xanguaIsumi: no remote conection here ;)12:49
dottyIsumi, tried running "top" via ssh to see if anything is consuming large amounts of resources?12:49
dottyor using ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a tty12:49
jason_so I wanted to retain a folder's contents with all ownership/group/permissions intact, so I copied everything to my external using sudo cp -p -R. When I did this command back to the other server, it came over as owned by me:me with 700 perms instead of root:root with 755. What did I do wrong?12:49
Isumi/usr/bin/X is at 100%12:49
Isumi(cpu)12:49
phlak_usern2i: you mean like this --> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/12:50
Isumi 1008 root      20   0 95508  21m  11m R  100  1.1  12:59.74 Xorg12:50
Isumi(i have it crashed right now, i'm on the other PC.)12:50
Isumithere is nothing special in dmesg12:51
flummyIsumi: he's dead, jim12:51
Isumiwhat should i try to find the source of the problem?12:51
Isumioh.12:52
flummyIsumi: you have little hope to improve the quality of xorg from that end12:52
Isumiin Xorg.log12:52
phlak_usergleydson: generally, you explode the tarball (tar zxvf your.tar.gz); cd your.directory; read the installation instructions12:52
Isumi[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.12:52
Emmanuel_ChanelHello!12:52
stephii need to convet avi video to 3gp which software can do that?12:52
jason_handbrake12:52
flummyIsumi: well but you could tell that from the cpu consumption :)12:52
n2iphlak_user: no, I dont! I love Ubuntu font family and set it as default application font. I dont wanna change my GUI language.12:52
phlak_usern2i: ok so what is it you want then?12:52
n2iHave I to edit something in /etc/font.conf?12:53
IsumiI have some backtrace, but no idea what to do with it...12:53
flummyIsumi: without a specific suspection about the cause - just kill it and restart it12:53
Isumihere is the backtrace : http://pastebin.com/j6nf4PQ112:53
Isumibut it's happening more and more12:54
flummynot good12:54
Isumii'd like to fix it if possible...12:54
flummydid you try a different OS installation or usb stick?12:54
Isumionly have ubuntu now12:55
incorrecthow can i remove the gtk tab widget thing in the bottom right on each window?12:55
flummyIsumi: step 1 would be to chance either the complete hardware or the complete OS12:55
flummyto divide the problem12:55
flummys/chance/change12:55
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flummyor start with a (very) different graphics adapter12:56
_melvin_HI. on 11.10 / gnome3 the gnome-terminal always show the menubar.12:57
flummyIsumi: our you could move system hard disk and graphics adapter to another hardware12:58
jason_so I wanted to retain a folder's contents with all ownership/group/permissions intact, so I copied everything to my external using sudo cp -p -R. When I did this command back to the other server, it came over as owned by me:me with 700 perms instead of root:root with 755. What did I do wrong?12:58
Isumi... is there no way to at least identify the problem from the logs/ etc?12:58
flummynot for me12:58
Isumidoes someone else have an idea then?12:58
flummyi mentioned three quick steps for identification12:59
gleydsonexit12:59
cutiyarwhen we get 11.10?12:59
Isumiyeah, "buy a new laptop, tehre won't be a problem"12:59
iceroot_melvin_: #ubuntu+112:59
Isumii don't see how that's identification12:59
flummyIsumi: you don't have access to another hardware?12:59
flummyno friends/colleagues?13:00
Isumii am on another computer right now, how does that help?13:00
n2iphlak_user: Sorry for my poor English. Thanks for help!13:00
flummyIsumi: well good luck then13:00
Isumii don't have any problem on this one, great. so ?13:00
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Isumii can't open a laptop and unplug the graphic card, obviously.13:00
flummy(i can open my thinkpad and unplug its graphics adapter)13:01
Isumiwell, for one thing, that usually voids the guarantee.13:01
flummynope13:01
fritschflummy: you can`t it is integrated13:01
icerootflummy: please stop this useless support13:01
fritschflummy: never found my graphics card in my thinkpad13:01
flummyfritsch: i guess it depends on the thinkpad :)13:02
flummyiceroot: i'm happy to stop it and observe isumis progress13:02
fritschflummy: i do not know a thinkpad, where you can just unplug the graphics module13:02
flummyi do13:02
cutiyar??13:04
K3rmitI'm having trouble because a lot of packages are missing and apt-get doesn't find any apache packages.. What is wrong? I didn't mess with sources.list really except maybe uncomment some more things so that it finds stuff.13:04
dorkwhat do you mean a lot of packages are missing13:05
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AaronMTWhere can one find the final image of 11.10, I know one can usually find them on the ftp the day before13:05
K3rmitI try to install other packages and it says it doesn't find them13:05
flummyK3rmit: did you compare your package sources to those of a working system?13:06
dorkK3rmit: pastebin your sources.list please13:06
K3rmitflummy I mean it was a fresh ubuntu install13:06
dorkK3rmit: pastebin your sources.list and pastebin the results of a sudo apt-get update13:06
flummyK3rmit: did you specify a http proxy at any point?13:06
K3rmitno13:07
TehDGMxD13:07
K3rmitok I'll come back later, I have to boot up the system.13:07
PiciAaronMT: Its not done yet. Feel free to await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or get help in #ubuntu+113:07
xr--Wow :)13:08
Isumiwhat is the clean way to stop the server X from console?13:09
Isumii thought "gdm stop" would do the trick, but visibly nto13:10
captainjamiepkill X?13:10
flummyIsumi: it is in a faulty state13:10
yoggHi13:10
pksadiqsudo service gdm stop13:10
flummyIsumi: you need to order the operating system to terminate it13:10
Isumiok a kill -9 works13:11
yoggI have installed "php5-auth-pam" to use pam authetification out of php13:11
yoggBut this only works with root rights and the lighttpd server should not run as rott13:11
xr--Kill the pid13:11
CompanionIsumi, kill -9?13:11
Companion:P13:11
yogghas someone an idea for me how to fix this?13:11
Companionwhy using that? :)13:12
phlak_useryogg: you can use suexec from apache13:12
wide_awakehi - quick question: is it possible to reorder the entries in the "Open With" context menu, or are they forced to alphabetic order?  If it can be changed, how do I do it?13:13
phlak_userwide_awake: gconf-editor should have the settings; let me check13:14
libScout_i would like to setup an intranet behind my gateway NAT... if I lock down port 80, will outgoing requests still reach there destination?13:14
yoggphlak_user: so i should start this script with root rights? this sounds realy ugly ^^13:14
flummylibScout_: what do you mean by "set up an interanet", another NAT router?13:15
flummy-e13:15
phlak_userlibScout_: yes, if you will be locking down incoming requests on port 8013:15
bucaneiro.13:16
libScout_flummy: basically I have a couple of PHP scripts for simplifying tasks for a couple "non-techs" for a headless server and i want everyone behind the gateway NAT to see port 80 but no one outside the NAT can access the web server13:16
phlak_useryogg: dude, if you have a script that needs to be run as root; im showing you how it could be done13:16
libScout_phlak_user: is this achievable with ufw?13:18
dorklibScout_: so kill port 80 on the router13:18
dorklibScout_: is the webserver behind your router?13:18
wide_awakephlak_user, where would I find the open-with list in gconf-editor?13:19
libScout_dork: yes13:19
dorklibScout_: can you just bind a local IP to one of the interfaces on the web server?13:19
drahstI've looked just about everywhere and google doesn't even know... I've installed ubuntu server 10.04 LTS with just the virtualization option and I cannot figure out how the default bridge is starting up or how to edit it. Any ideas?13:19
libScout_dork: does it matter that i am forwarding port 22 to the same cpu that contains the web server?13:19
dorklibScout_: no, if you filter port 80 on the router it will have no impact on port 22 unless you make it13:20
yoggphlak_user: i don't think it must be run as root.  As user i can also change to another account with "su - otheruser" without root rights. If i find the right pam.d rules it should also work as www-data.   But maybe Iam on the wrong way13:20
libScout_dork: yeah... i didnt think of that13:20
phlak_userwide_awake: ok heres another way -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82383513:20
libScout_dork: ok... thanks for the help13:20
dorknp13:20
phlak_userlibScout_: yes13:20
wide_awakephlak_user, reading. thanks13:21
phlak_userdrahst: brctl13:21
drahsthow do I change the address?13:22
phlak_user!info bridge-utils13:22
ubottubridge-utils (source: bridge-utils): Utilities for configuring the Linux Ethernet bridge. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4-5ubuntu2 (natty), package size 31 kB, installed size 200 kB13:22
drahstI can't even figure out how it is starting up... there's no config, but dnsmasq looks like it's firing up13:22
Isumiis there an easy way to switch to the vesa driver in ubuntu?13:23
drahsthmm... component main?13:24
flummyIsumi: maybe change /etc/X11/xorg.conf, Section "Device", Driver to "vesa", but i do not know13:24
wide_awakephlak_user, not quite what I'm looking for - I want to reorder the list, not add/remove entries.  I want GVim to always be first in the list, followed by all the other choices13:24
ActionParsnipIsumi: you can blacklist drivers, i believe there is a boot option13:24
drahstI'm in just regular old cli...13:24
wide_awakeI suspect it's just sorting them by name :-/13:24
drahstno xorg/x11 installed13:24
sgs2_usrcan anyone tell me when Ubuntu 12.04 going to be out?13:25
phlak_userdrahst: man brctl should give you some clues13:25
flummysgs2_usr: probably some time in 101213:25
TehDGMtomorrow13:25
n0ti0nishi all, I compiled a version of linux kernel (taken from git repo), I have no .changes file, how can i upload it to my PPA without that file? I didn't find a complete wiki about that13:25
sgs2_usrfluido: 1012?13:25
TehDGMhaha thats a long time ago13:25
phlak_userdrahst: if the package isnt installed, typing sudo apt-get install bridge-utils would take care of that13:25
flummys/1012/2012/13:25
yorx39sgs2_usr: April 201213:25
sgs2_usrflummy: lol13:25
sgs2_usrthx guys13:26
flummynp13:26
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drahstI've got bridge-utils installed... just not sure how to edit the bridge... didn't see an option in brctl13:27
phlak_userdrahst: sudo brctl help will show you all options like add bridge, del bridge, add interface to bridge etc etc13:30
g0rsanimations arent working in compiz , can anybody suggest what's wrong with it?13:30
ActionParsnipsgs2_usr: if you look at the version number and think about it, you can work it out easily13:32
BetaArkHi! Just got an question; I have sometimes 'freezes' with gnome-shell, I have an Intel HD (1gen), anyone know a possible solution?13:32
ActionParsnipBetaArk: which release are you using?13:32
BetaArkUbuntu 11.0413:32
ActionParsnip!info gnome-shell13:32
ubottuPackage gnome-shell does not exist in natty13:32
GirlyGirl!gnome313:33
ubottuGnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and cannot be downgraded safely.13:33
ActionParsnipBetaArk: how did you get it, its not in the repos....13:33
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ActionParsnipBetaArk: if you installed Gnome3 via the PPA, you will get issues. You are supported in #gnome   not here13:33
BetaArkPPA13:33
flummyhe probably just does not know that the irc channel #ubuntu does not want to provide support for gnome313:33
ActionParsnipBetaArk: then its not supported here13:33
Gale0nHi13:33
yorx39BetaArk: If you want to use Gnome Shell, Fedora is probably the distribution for you13:34
Gale0nI wanna install Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1950 Pro, but I'm having a problem :/13:34
GirlyGirlGale0n: What problem13:34
Gale0nJust won't install13:34
BetaArkOke, np. I also have this issue with Unity/compiz sometimes. It just 'hanging', I have a Intel HD, read some topics; see that some users have the same issue?13:34
Gale0nI still lag on my PC13:35
BetaArkyorx39: Thanks, running Arch+Ubuntu at the moment. :)13:35
GirlyGirlGale0n: Did you use the restrickted driver manager13:35
ActionParsnipGirlyGirl: can I pm you please13:35
GirlyGirlActionParsnip: ok13:35
BetaArkyorx39: Tried Fedora, but it still isnt that stable as Ubuntu. :)13:36
yorx39BetaArk: With Intel cards it can be worth upgrading to a newer kernel than Ubuntu 11.04 provides13:36
yorx39Though worth reading the bugzilla first13:36
BetaArkyorx39: I have the latest kernel running (PPA)13:36
markskilbeckGuys... why have I suddenly lost gnome-appearance-properties and gnome-font-viewer?13:37
Gale0nGirlyGirl: I dunno how ?13:37
stephniwhich software converts videos and mp3s in ubuntu?13:37
ActionParsnipstephni: mencoder can13:37
BetaArkyorx39: I have hybrid (optimus) by the way.. really sucks :(13:37
Gale0nstephni: Sound Converter13:37
Gale0nI dunno for video13:37
BetaArkCould that be an issue?13:37
ActionParsnipmarkskilbeck: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc13:37
systemclientCan I create an Ubuntu appliance and distribute that?13:37
the-lightI like work with ubuntu 9.04, but don't any repo for update that, any idea?13:38
Gale0nsystemclient: If you say it's based on Ubuntu13:38
GirlyGirlGale0n: Search "unity" dash for restricted13:38
ActionParsnipstephni: ffmpeg -i file.avi -f mp3 file.mp313:38
systemclientGale0n: I would say "this is a Ubuntu box I made for our computer science class"13:38
bipulis there any l33t ubuntu user13:38
ActionParsnipthe-light: jaunty is EOL, there is no more support for it in any way, shape or form13:39
Gale0nsystemclient: And ?13:39
systemclientGale0n: is that legal?13:39
Gale0nYes13:39
markskilbeckActionParsnip: natty13:39
Gale0nGirlyGirl: Thnx13:39
Gale0nWhere?13:39
systemclientGale0n: okay, so no legal trap or so?13:39
the-lightActionParsnip: oh, tnx13:39
Gale0nsystemclient: Just say it's Ubuntu13:39
GirlyGirlGale0n: You're welcome13:40
systemclientGale0n: can I read up on this "Say itis Ubuntu" thing?13:40
markskilbeckActionParsnip: for some reason gnome-control-center was uninstalled...13:40
Gale0nsystemclient: ?13:40
MrRaggahi, alsaplay -l lists the sound card, but in pulseaudio i can see the dummy interface only. any hints?13:40
systemclientGale0n: how do you know I have to say that it is Ubuntu?13:40
Gale0nJust say that you made it based on Ubuntu13:40
ActionParsnipmarkskilbeck: strange, can you reinstall it?13:40
MrRaggaaplay foo.wav plays the wav file successfully13:40
Gale0nGirlyGirl: Where do I search ?13:41
markskilbeckYep. Reinstalled and everything's working as expected. Not sure how it came to be uninstalled, though.13:41
GirlyGirlGale0n: Press the windows key13:41
markskilbeckI'll attribute it to cosmis radiation.13:41
GirlyGirlGale0n: There should be a search box in the dash shown13:41
Gale0nGirlyGirl: Yes13:41
Gale0nBut13:41
Gale0nI search, and only "Launcher and Menus" comes up13:42
GirlyGirlGale0n: ALT +F2 then type "jockey"13:42
Gale0nThen ?13:42
Defusalhi everyone, is there any way to tell how much load processes are using, to see whats using so much load?13:43
ActionParsnipDefusal: run:  top13:43
Isumithe strange thing is that it's always the google doodle that crash my computer.13:43
ActionParsnipIsumi: use www.google.com/ig    and it won't load13:44
DefusalActionParsnip, top shows the overall cpu load, and cpu usage percentages, but *not* the load per process.13:44
bastidrazorDefusal: System > Administration > System Monitor  if you want a graphical way13:44
Gale0nGirlyGirl: ?13:44
Gale0nWhat do I do now ?13:44
Isumithx ActionParsnip13:44
westanyone from macedonia ?13:44
ActionParsnipDefusal: it does if you look in the bottom section13:45
jaskaj si dikiz13:45
westeve emile :D13:45
bastidrazorDefusal: press c in top and it'll list by cpu%13:45
Defusalbastidrazor, this is a server13:45
westkaj si ti13:45
jasso imame sega?13:45
westmakedonski13:45
DefusalActionParsnip and bastidrazor, i am not interested in cpu pecentage, i need to see the *load* per process13:45
westa posele znajsh ?13:45
jasne13:46
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ActionParsnipDefusal: %CPU  is the load....no?13:46
jaskaj si antonia13:46
DefusalActionParsnip: No.13:46
DefusalCPU Percentage != CPU Load13:46
ActionParsnipDefusal: how is it different. If the cpu is 50% in use then it is loaded by 50% surely13:47
antonio_canale italiano? how search it?13:47
VonLipwigHi, could someone tell me how to connect to a server via ssh. I have the IP, port, username and password. I used to use Mac Coda to sign in. I can't work out what to do to connect via terminal13:47
LjL!it | antonio_13:47
ubottuantonio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:47
Defusalmy cpu usage percentage is low, the load is however very high, and i need to find out why exactly13:47
westима некој од Македонија ?13:48
ActionParsnipVonLipwig: you can use:   ssh -X -C username@servername -p PORTNUM13:48
DefusalActionParsnip, percentage is the overall usage, load is how much processes are asking to use the CPU at exactly the same time.. i dont have time to teach you details, research it yourself13:48
ActionParsnipDefusal: will do13:49
xiaowuwill13:49
VonLipwigActionParsnip thanks13:49
RocknRollei13:49
bastidrazorDefusal: which kernel are you using? in Lucid with 2.6.32-34 my load when way up. i went back to -33 and all is well. why i don't know.13:49
xiaowu68913:49
ActionParsnipVonLipwig: the -X enables X forwarding, the -C enables compression (little extra treats)13:49
g0rsActionParsnip: do you use compiz?13:49
xiaowubegine13:50
xiaowuyes13:50
ActionParsnipg0rs: rarely13:50
westkazhi13:50
westtuka si13:50
jasda13:50
jasdad13:50
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FloodBot1jas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:50
westmore budala kolku si13:50
xiaowuunkonw english13:50
DefusalActionParsnip, you can have a very low percentage, but if processes need to use more of the processor at the same time than there is processing power, it will be overloaded and can cause issues that go as far as your system clock falling behind, since there isnt enough time to process what is requested at that given point in time13:50
ActionParsnip!ru | west13:50
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westwhat ?13:51
KBentley57whilst eavesdropping on the topic, does anyone run projects in BOINC?13:51
westno13:51
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ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:51
ActionParsnipDefusal: sorely a high load will use more CPU percentage though13:51
jasgumno13:51
jasedno13:51
westemile  e budala13:51
KBentley57it shows stressed cores, but no process taking up CPU time13:51
Ollehthe load avg is the number of processes/threads queued.13:52
ActionParsnipDefusal: ahhh, queue length. That makes it clear13:52
Olleha load average of 2 in a 4 core cpu is not overloaded, but an load average of 2 on a 1 core machine is bad13:52
flummythe load average is the average number of provesses/threads in the runnable queue in a specific timeframe13:53
jason_why is it when I run sudo rsync -a, it does NOT (repeat- NOT) retain my permissions or ownership of files I move to my external via the rsync command?13:53
Defusalbastidrazor, 2.6.32-29-server, the load is high at certain times, and low at others, i need to find out why, so i can report an issue to my hosting provider if it is not a processes fault13:53
flummyand it does not take Input/Output (Hard Disk Access) load into consideration13:53
DefusalActionParsnip, yeah13:53
ActionParsnipDefusal: got it :)13:53
Ollehjason_: check the man pages, more specifically the -p option13:54
DefusalOlleh, my load is anywhere from 0.7 to over 3 on a 2 core server13:54
Gale0nHello ?13:54
GirlyGirlGale0n: Sorry wasn't there13:54
Gale0nLol NP13:54
Gale0nSo13:54
Defusalwith nothing using extra load13:54
Gale0nWhat do I do now ?13:54
Defusalthat i can tell13:54
OllehDefusal: then your machine goes from ok, to overloaded. anything can cause it, even slow IO13:54
Defusalso i need a way to measure load per process...13:54
GirlyGirlGale0n: What do you see now after launching "jockey"13:54
Gale0nThere's a small difference, but not much13:54
Gale0nI see nothing13:54
Gale0n:/13:54
Gale0nAHA13:55
Gale0nWait13:55
Ollehif there is no obvious cpu hog, you may need to lookup a way of checking the IO per process. (i dont know how/if its possible)13:55
Gale0nYou gave me wrong command13:55
GirlyGirlGale0n: sorry type ALT + F2 then enter "jockey-gtk"13:55
jason_Olleh: I did check the man pages. As I notated, I used -a. -a SHOULD do it.13:55
DefusalOlleh, so theres no way to measure what is using the load?13:55
Gale0nI needed "jockey-gtk"13:55
Gale0nLol13:55
Defusalbecause i cant report an issue to my hosting provider unless im sure there is one13:55
flummyDefusal: the time spent by the cpus in the bottom half of (I/O) drivers is not reflected in the load average, as this is only the average number of process in the process scheduler's runable queue13:55
GirlyGirlGale0n: Sorry I'm not too familliar with these commands as I use kde13:55
OllehDefusal: loadavg is just a metric, the cause can be pretty much anything. But the main reasons are slow IO (harddrive) or maxed CPU13:56
Gale0n"No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"13:56
Gale0nGirlyGirl: No problem13:56
Gale0nI'm gonna work on my KDE later too :P13:56
incorrectfor some reason there is some strange gtk widget covering the bottom right corner, i am sure i once removed it13:56
GirlyGirlGale0n: open terminal and type "lspci"13:56
Gale0nKK13:56
DefusalOlleh, im pretty sure there are no IO bottlenecks, i get 100/100Mbps internet connectivity, even though i pay for 100/10, and i have nothing that is hdd intensive...13:56
ActionParsnipincorrect: can you give a screenshot please13:57
flummyDefusal: measure i/o performance, then13:57
Gale0nWTF13:57
Gale0n"01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV570 [Radeon X1950 Pro]"13:57
Gale0n"01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV570 [Radeon X1950 Pro] (secondary)"13:57
Gale0nWhy secondary13:57
OllehDefusal: yeah, measure your harddrive. Check for harddrive errors, etc.13:57
flummyDefusal: ambe with iostat 1013:57
flummymaybe13:57
ActionParsnipGale0n: sometimes the svideo out or similar has its own thing13:57
GirlyGirlGale0n: send the entire output on paste.ubuntu.com13:57
lokomisadriana- is a spambot for any OPs that are on.13:58
incorrectActionParsnip, i found it, they call it the resize grip,13:58
Ollehiostat will tell you how much your harddrive is being used.. but it wont tell you what it causing it. If you find that your harddrive is being thrashed (possibly by swap) you'll need to trial/error13:58
DefusalOlleh, the drive is part of a high performance cloud13:59
Defusalhow do i tell the percentage Olleh?13:59
Ollehah. then im not sure. I still say measure everything. If there is nothing hogging the CPU chances are its something to do with IO13:59
zimb0adriana- is a spam bot, set me a link to a porn site immediately after i joined the channel13:59
Picizimb0: thanks13:59
Ollehi dont think you can check percentage14:00
Ollehat least to my knowledge. if you find out, i'd be interested to know too14:00
Defusaliostat 10 says 75% cpu idle14:00
DefusalDevice:            tps   Blk_read/s   Blk_wrtn/s   Blk_read   Blk_wrtn14:00
Defusalsda                3.20         0.00        33.60          0        33614:00
fly_high75does anyone know how to share file & folder using wired connection?14:00
Defusalthats pretty much useless to me :(14:00
Ollehfly_high75: scp?14:00
fly_high75what is scp?14:01
Gale0nGirlyGirl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706718/14:01
dweezsecure copy14:01
Ollehsecure copy, across ssh.14:01
dweeztype "man scp"14:01
Defusalany idea how to interpet that flummy?14:01
iDoritoWhat was the incentive behind creating Ubuntu14:01
iDoritoand why wouldn't the creators settle with Debian14:01
dweezI heard it was based on Debian because it had the longer running stable releases14:02
dweezmore time to build off a stable core14:02
fly_high75then?14:02
Gale0niDorito: It's based off Debian14:02
nbest /join #knowyourmeme14:02
Gale0nAlso, they wanted less-fortunate people to have a computer14:03
Ollehfly_high75: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/TransferFiles14:03
iDoritoOk.14:03
Gale0nYou know Mark Shuttleworth ?14:03
iDoritoNo.14:03
iDoritoI don't think so.14:03
Gale0nHe started it14:03
GirlyGirlGale0n: Doesn't the card work out of the box?14:03
Gale0nGirlyGirl: No14:03
Gale0n:/14:03
Defusalhe lives in the same town as me :)14:03
DefusalUbuntu is awesome14:04
edbianDefusal: +114:04
iDoritoOkay, I understand.14:04
iDoritoWhat's this about stable releases though14:04
Gale0nDefusal: Where you live ?14:04
Pici!offtopic14:04
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:04
Gale0niDorito: ?14:04
Defusalyou should see marks garden, wow14:04
DefusalGale0n, Cape Town, South Africa14:04
Gale0nDefusal: :<14:04
iDoritoYeah. Like, I keep hearing about release cycles, stable vs. unstable releases, LTS (I know what it stands for), etc. etc.14:05
Defusalwhy :<?14:05
iDoritoI don't understand the context/significance of these things. It's confusing me.14:05
Gale0nWherabout in Cape Town, Defusal ?14:05
iDoritoWhere can I find out more?14:05
DefusalOlleh, io wait % is 0.1314:05
Gale0niDorito: I dunno .. :/14:05
DefusalGale0n, Durbanville14:05
Gale0nDefusal: Where about ?14:05
Defusaloh i see you're also from SA14:05
Gale0nYeah yeah14:06
iDoritoBasically, where can I learn more about how Ubuntu is developed and why it's based on Debian?14:06
OllehDefusal: at the moment, yeah. But check it when your load increases.14:06
Defusali live like 10 mins from marks garden14:06
iDoritoAnd the logic behind the development choices.14:06
PiciGale0n, Defusal: This channel is for support only, do you mind moving the off-topic conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic ?14:06
* Gale0n puffs up my chest14:06
Gale0nYes Pici, I do.14:06
Gale0nLoljk14:06
iDoritoHahaha.14:07
GirlyGirlGale0n: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI14:07
Defusalheh14:07
yellabs-r2hi there14:08
PiciiDorito: You may want to see http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu as well as our entry in Wikipedia.14:08
HalabundHi!  On windows I can use 'start' to launch anything from the command line as if it were started from explorer.  Is there an equivalent for gnome?14:08
yellabs-r2is there a way to play a movie in slowmotion using mplayer and commandline ?14:08
OllehHalabund: alt+F2 ?14:08
dweezHalabund, Alt+F2?14:08
iDoritoPici: Actually, what I want to understand is how release cycles/LTS works.14:08
iDoritoI'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the purpose of these.14:08
edbianyellabs-r2: I'm not sure mplayer can but vlc DEF can in the gui and it's easy.14:08
iDoritoI don't really get what it is.14:09
yellabs-r2maybe totem can do it too ?14:09
HalabundOlleh, dweez, no.  E.g. 'start asd.pdf' would launch asd.pdf in the default reader.  'start .' will open the current dir in explorer.14:09
edbianyellabs-r2: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/playing-in-slow-motion-with-mplayer-474794/14:09
yellabs-r2thanks , you are the man !14:10
yellabs-r2:)14:10
zimb0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth <-- the founder of ubuntu, he was also at one point a debian developer14:10
dweezwhy use "start"...wouldn't just using the "asd.pdf" be sufficient?14:10
dweezsorry, not understanding exactly what you're hoping to accomplish I guess14:11
Ollehyellabs-r2: there is gnome-open14:11
PiciiDorito: We do a regular release every 6 months.  These are normally supported (sercurity and major bugfix updates) for 18 months.  Every two years we have an LTS release which is supported for 3 to 5 years. 3 years for desktop packages, 5 for server.14:11
Lithos84!releases | iDorito14:11
ubottuiDorito: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases14:11
iDoritoThanks for the response.14:11
edgyHi, setfacl is working even without mounting the filesystem with acl, how come?14:12
iDoritoMy question is what exactly does "supported" mean in this context?14:12
mr_danielIs there a roadmap to switch Ubuntu from Upstart to systemd?14:12
Ollehsorry yellabs-r2, wrong nick ;)14:12
OllehHalabund: there is gnome-open14:12
sagaciiDorito, you get updates14:12
HalabundOlleh, that's it, apparently.  Thanks14:12
iDoritoWhat, like driver updates?14:12
Lithos84iDorito: It means upgrades and, if you can pay for it, support from Canonical.14:12
sagaciiDorito, software updates, yes and people in here will help you14:12
iDoritoSo let me get this straight. Every 6 months, Ubuntu releases a new LTS version?14:13
iDoritoOr is it just a regular version update?14:13
sagaciiDorito, regular version 6 months14:13
PiciiDorito: No. Every 6 months we release a standard version that is only supported for 18 months.14:13
sagaciiDorito, every 4th release is an LTS14:13
sagacinext one tentatively being in april '1214:14
PiciiDorito: It may be handy to note that our version numbers indicate the YEAR.MONTH of release. so 11.04 was released in April of 2011.14:14
iDoritoOkay, so every 6 months, a new version of Ubuntu is released, and the Ubuntu Foundation commits to providing driver- and software updates for 18 months past the release for each and every release?14:14
iDoritoExcept for LTS, which is supported for a longer period of time?14:14
sagaciiDorito, correct14:14
iDoritoWhat about third party software?14:15
iDoritoHow do third party release cycles tie in with Ubuntu14:15
iDoritoand how do you maintain compatibility14:15
GirlyGirliDorito: Software updates as in new features reduce once a release is no longer current but bugfixes come  in14:15
sagaciiDorito, most of third party is "supported" by the community14:15
sagaciie. MOTU14:15
PiciiDorito: Sort of.  Software updates are not provided if there is just a new version available upstream, we only provide updates for major bugfixes or security issues.14:15
Pici!latest14:16
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.14:16
GirlyGirliDorito: Kind of like Microsofts mainstream support and extended support14:16
sagaciunless it's something like flash which is supported in the Canonical partner repos14:16
iDoritoWait, so are Ubuntu versions that are past their 18 month support eligibility offered any updates *at all* from the Ubuntu foundation?14:16
steph7I see the essid in iwconfig but the access-point isn't associated...it's an ath5k atheros on natty...what can I do?14:16
iDoritoOr are they dropped completely?14:16
sagaciiDorito, they go End of Life14:17
iDoritoOoh.14:17
NeutrinooAnyone here has any experience with Prolog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog)?14:17
iDoritoOkay.14:17
yorx39iDorito: Dropped14:17
Anahi88hi14:17
yorx39iDorito: Makes you release how long Windows supports their OS for14:17
NeutrinooAnyone here has any experience with Prolog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog ) ?14:17
PiciNeutrinoo: Thats not really on-topic for an Ubuntu support channel.14:17
sagaciiDorito, you can still technically use them but you won't get updates14:17
yorx39Neutrinoo: I used prolog at Uni for a module. You have my sympathy14:17
iDoritoBut then how do you keep all of your favorite applications updated along with your Ubuntu version?14:17
iDoritoWhat if you jump from one version to the next, and notice that none of your apps have been updated?14:18
sagaciiDorito, you can upgrade or clean install14:18
Lithos84iDorito: Upgrade Ubuntu to a new version.14:18
yellabs-r2https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases14:18
PiciiDorito: We sync from debian for each new release.14:18
yellabs-r2release cycle14:18
adapterkaj si dikiz14:18
iDoritoI don't understand how that answers my question about software becoming obsolete.14:18
yellabs-r2there used to be an nice graphic of release cycles, dont know where that one is now14:18
adapterkako si14:18
iDoritoAm I missing something in your replies14:18
adapterso cas imame sega14:19
Pici!en | adapter14:19
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yellabs-r2is software obsolete , or just "old "14:19
Lithos84iDorito: If you upgrade to a new version, your software will be upgraded as well.14:19
iDoritoBut what about third party software?14:19
adaptertuka si dikiz14:19
LjLiDorito: if you install software not from the repositories you're on your own14:20
dweeznew versions get added to the repositories all the time14:20
iDoritoIsn't that a pretty big problem?14:20
Atlantic777What's FLOSS alternative for video communication?14:20
dweezbut yes as LjL said14:20
iDoritoAnd a flaw?14:20
dweeziDorito, Linux has been like that for years14:20
dweeznot a flaw14:20
LjLiDorito: uh, not like third-party software updates automagically on other systems14:20
dweezjust like Windows14:20
Atlantic777Like a skype, jabber has video?14:20
yellabs-r2all software is like that14:20
Anahi88hi, i have ubuntu 11.04 and im having some problems loging into hotmail... although i can enter the webpage "www.hotmail.com" once i try to enter my account and pwd it wont display the page...14:20
dweezWindws Update only updates system files14:20
yellabs-r2even your phone14:20
artzrahi14:21
iDoritoLjL: Well, with other OS' the distinction between releases is greater, and updates provided for your OS won't render your third party software support obsolete.14:21
Lithos84Atlantic777: Yes, it does.14:21
iDoritoYou can always expect a Windows Vista application to work on Windows Vista and so forth.14:21
tomodachiAnahi88: works fine for me when I try just now, use chrome14:21
Lithos84artzra: Hello.14:21
Anahi88im using chrome14:21
JahcrosAnahi88: Do you have some sort of script blocker running?14:21
dweeziDorito, have you ever experienced some of your 3rd party software being obsolete?14:21
artzraLithos84, hi14:21
iDoritodweez: In Windows or Ubuntu?14:21
dweezeither14:22
iDoritoNo, I don't think so.14:22
dweezand you can't compare Windows and Linux apples to apples14:22
artzraby chance, can i have some help14:22
dweezso you're worried about something that has never happened before?14:22
HalabundHow can I install Sun's (Oracle's) Java instead of OpenJDK on Oneiric?  (Need it to log in to bank)14:22
Lithos84iDorito: Most of third party software will be upgraded along with Ubuntu.14:22
LjLiDorito: LTS releases are supported for 3 years, that seems enough time to me14:22
Lithos84!ask | artzra14:22
ubottuartzra: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:22
dweezUbuntu's apt-get repos support a lot of apps, not just the Ubuntu-base14:23
iDoritodweez: Well, I'm not an avid Ubuntu user. I've only played around with it before. I am merely commenting on the logic behind the release philosophy.14:23
Anahi88i dont know :(.... im sorry im kind of new to this whole thing... although i have been using ubuntu for 2 years now.. i always received help from a friend14:23
jenky_is there a command to enable packet injection?14:23
iDoritoI mean, as a desktop user, you kind of want to feel confident that you can always hold a third party provider responsible for having their software work on your OS.14:23
dweeziDorito, I think the problem here is you're coming at Linux with a Windows midnset14:23
dweezmindset14:23
iDoritoWindows/OSX mindset* I guess?14:24
dweezIf a 3rd party app no longer works, then it's on the app developer to update their software14:24
iDoritoBut that doesn't change my question I think. :/14:24
LjLiDorito: that's simply unreasonable to expect on Linux, with the huge number of distributions there is. here it's the *distribution* that's usually responsible for making software work, not the software provider14:24
yorx39iDorito: There are some disadvantages to Linux software management undoubtedly. Most users don't care if their core OS upgrades each six months, just the user software they use14:24
dweezService Pack1 for windows 2000 broke ZoneAlarm14:24
artzracontext : new install : PC strange slow, some application " banshee" "ntfs-config"dont open14:24
dweezZoneAlarm fixed their app and released an update14:24
iDoritoYes yorx39 this is sort of what I am getting at.14:25
iDorito:-/14:25
iDoritoTo me, it sounds like a flaw in the release philosophy.14:25
wide_awakeHalabund, download the jdk from them and then add it to your path and/or JAVA_HOME14:25
dweezNo one says you have to upgrade each time14:25
yorx39iDorito: That's why some people use rolling release14:25
iDoritorolling release = LTS?14:25
yellabs-r2just move from LTS to LTS ( long term support )14:25
dweezno14:25
artzrai have install Ubuntu-Studio 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Daily Build14:25
Halabundwide_awake, why was it removed from the repos?14:25
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LjLiDorito: no, rolling release is something that Ubuntu doesn't have, namely instead of having fixed release your system updates continuously14:26
yorx39iDorito: No, it's where your OS continuously upgrades whenever new software is available. The kernel, GNOME, everything14:26
dweezartzra, oneiric questions go in #ubuntu+114:26
iDoritoOic.14:26
greg3000hi everyone, I'm working with nm-applet (network manager) and I want to be able to save my wireless password.  I understand that I must check "available to all users" on the connection settings, and I must have gnome-keyring running for that.  How do I make sure gnome-keyring is running?14:26
wide_awakeHalabund, I didn't know the oracle/sun one was ever in the repos14:26
sagaciiDorito, the closest you'd get to rolling release is by using the dev releases, which isn't really recommended unless you have a spare system that you don't rely on14:26
Lithos84!details | artzra14:26
ubottuartzra: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:26
yellabs-r2is it not the same with windows , moved from Xp to Vista to Windows 7 and now windows 814:26
Halabundwide_awake, it was ... can't find it in oneiric.  it was in the "partner" repos in 11.0414:26
yorx39Or using Arch/Gentoo ;)14:26
winadminhelp me14:26
Lithos84!11.10 | artzra14:27
ubottuartzra: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+114:27
dweezyellabs-r2, even more granular...Service Pack to Service Pack14:27
wide_awakeHalabund, that's one of those things I always install by hand, so I guess I can't help ya :-/14:27
yellabs-r2yeah even worse14:27
yellabs-r2hehe14:27
wide_awake(unless you want to install it by hand, of course)14:27
winadminUbuntu 11.10: whats new?14:27
LjLwinadmin: nothing yet, since it's not released yet :) ask in #ubuntu+114:27
iDoritoWell, as far as I'm concerned, the third party software provider commits to providing their software to users of a certain OS, such as OSX Lion, Windows 7, Windows XP and so forth. This puts the pressure on them to always ensure that their software works on the given OS. At the same time, rolling OS releases ensures (I am guessing) that the OS won't have any radical changes that would render the third party software obsolete. It seems 14:28
iDoritoa perfect software ecosystem for desktop users.14:28
winadmin#ubuntu+114:28
iDoritoWith Ubuntu on the other hand, it seems to be the complete opposite. :/14:28
iDoritoThis is what I find a little strange, you know?14:29
Isumirolling release prevent your from making any radical change14:29
yorx39iDorito: Rolling release is hard to keep stable though, especially with so many integrated packages like Ubuntu. It's not without its own issues14:29
Isumiso it's not ideal14:29
iDoritoIsumi: Well, the radical changes come with each big release.14:29
iDoritoWindows XP -> Vista -> 7 -> 8 etc.14:29
dweez[Wed 12 | 10:28:53] <iDorito> With Ubuntu on the other hand, it seems to be the complete opposite. :/ <== It might seem that way, but it isn't14:29
dweezIMHO, rolling releases (Arch, Gentoo) you have more of a chance of a surpise update changing things drastically than you do with Ubuntu14:30
iDoritoWell, I always like to keep myself updated. I would hate to update my Ubuntu one day, only to find that some of my apps have become obsolete.14:30
dweeziDorito, you've NEVER had that14:30
dweezso why now all of a sudden are you worried?14:31
iDoritodweez: Actually, now that I think about it, I think I have. :x14:31
sagaciiDorito, it's not that bad having a slightly out-of-date solitaire game14:31
yorx39iDorito: Rolling release is partly harder on Linux because the way shared libraries/software is used. On Windows every music player bundles its own MP3 decoder etc., on Linux they use the same one. It saves space (irrelevant these days) but makes it more complex14:31
iDoritoHaha.14:31
KM0201does anyone know of a photo program, that has a PNP plugin, so i can browse a share?14:31
iDoritoAlso, what if you want to use an obscure application for whatever purpose, and it turns out to be like14:32
iDoritocompletely outdated14:32
iDoritoso Ubuntu won't even let you install it via the app manager14:32
dweeziDorito, who's fault is that?14:32
greg3000hi everyone, I'm working with nm-applet (network manager) and I want to be able to save my wireless password.  I understand that I must check "available to all users" on the connection settings, and I must have gnome-keyring running for that.  How do I make sure gnome-keyring is running so I can make a network connection available to all users?14:32
dweezSo you're saying an outdated app is the fault of the Ubuntu developers?14:32
gunkstaI've got a server running KVM and I can connect to it remotely on the LAN (using Virtual Machine Manager), but I can't seem to connect to it outside the LAN, although I do have the necessary port forwarding set up on port 2222. Any thoughts on what I need to do so I can connect to my VM through my firewall?14:32
Myrttican we keep the philosophical discussion of differences of distros and rolling release model vs. set schedules to #ubuntu-offtopic so this channel can be reserved for support questions?14:33
Myrttithank you14:33
yorx39iDorito: You're not the first person to think these things. The fact application developers have to compile different versions of their application for not just separate distributions, but versions of those distros is lunacy. On Windows the same .exe will work on XP, Windows 7, Vista etc.14:33
iDoritodweez: Well, in windows it wouldnt be obsolete as long as its the right version of windows.14:33
iDoritoYeah yorx39. :/14:34
dweeziDorito, this conversation is off-topic (as pointed out by Myrtti) so we need to drop it14:34
iDoritoAnyway, you've answered all of my questions. Thanks for clarifying.14:34
MrElendigdweez: distupgrades on fixed release distroes can be way more hairy than the updates you get with rolling release. Eg back in the bad old days it was even recommended to not do a distupgrade at all between some ubuntu versions, but to reinstall instead14:34
iDoritoWell, I've gathered enough info. Thanks for taking the time to explain. :-)14:34
yellabs-r2iDorito , good luck with your quest :)14:35
Halabundin which config file is the path set globally for the system?14:36
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seanbright/etc/environment i think?14:37
kolinabgood day everyone. . . is this the right place to ask how to add a launcher to my unity panel? (if so, I'll get specific)14:37
LjLjas: cat off the keyboard please14:37
yellabs-r2jas , thats a great piece of code , can i use it ?14:37
ActionParsnipkolinab: yes, ask away14:38
kolinabThanks ActionParsnip - simple question I hope. I have an application installed under wine, which works great. If I right click the .exe file for the app and select 'open with wine' it works just as I want it. I just can't seem to figure out how to add a launcher for that file to my unity panel, know what I mean?14:39
ActionParsnipkolinab: you may find the installer has an item in dash, drag it from dash to the Unity launcher14:40
Stanley00kolinab: run that exe, and then "keep on launcher" ?14:40
CharlieSuHi.  I have a server I SSH onto before I can SSH into other servers on my private network.  Is there a way to skip this step through configuration?  Using one server as a tunnel automatically?14:40
jas<[[[POUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYY[''''''''''''''''''''''''/GHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYHHHGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH/////////////////////////////////////////14:40
kolinabStanley  - that's the simple answer I was looking for. will try asap. There is nothing in the dash because it's an old group of wine files from long ago and the dash has somehow long ago dissappeared14:41
ActionParsnipkolinab: if it doesn't work, you can always make your own .desktop file in /usr/share/applications and then it WILL appear in dash ;)14:42
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ActionParsnip!away > SomeoneWeirdzzzz14:43
ubottuSomeoneWeirdzzzz, please see my private message14:43
kolinabStanley, I'll let you know if I get it to work. No joy yet but I understand the idea. ActionP I didn't know how to do that before, many thanks. Will check it out.14:43
SomeoneWeirdzzzz-.- ActionParsnip14:43
ActionParsnipSomeoneWeirdzzzz: please don't away like that in future14:44
SomeoneWeirdzzzzso I can't change my nick?14:44
ActionParsnipSomeoneWeirdzzzz: not just because you away. , just leave. You can idle all day if you want14:44
libScout_is there a way to make the cli display larger on my monitor? using a 21" CRT on Ubuntu Server (monitor is like an EMP!)14:45
ActionParsniplibScout_: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/14:46
libScout_ActionParsnip: perfect... thanks14:46
jason_what am I doing wrong here? sudo service networking resetart. "unknown instance."14:48
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iDoritoyellabs-r2: Thanks.14:48
sgs2_usrcan anyone tell me why VMWare Workstation 8 gives me problem with screen renderring when i hover my mouse out of the guest OS in my Ubuntu 11.04? VMWare Workstation 7.1.4 never gives me this problem...14:49
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vicenola14:49
jasHI14:50
jas2 ALL14:50
libScout_sgs2_usr: were you on natty with vmware 7?14:50
Lithos84jas: Hello.14:50
vicencabrón14:50
jasEEEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEEQE GN,KHL14:50
jasHEY14:50
adapterma gde sve jebove14:51
sgs2_usrlibScout_: im on Ubuntu 11.04 with VMWare Workstation 814:51
libScout_sgs2_usr: but were you using 11.04 when you were using Workstation 7.1.4?14:52
sgs2_usrlibScout_: yup14:52
adapterkaj si emile14:52
Halabundhow do I set the path for root?14:52
libScout_sgs2_usr: sounds like a query for the VMWare guys since thats your variable14:52
Lithos84!en | adapter14:52
ubottuadapter: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList14:52
Halabundit seems to have a different path from that set in /etc/environment14:52
adapteryktdku14:53
adapterzosto me baniravte14:53
west mroe ne bidete budala14:53
Bisu[Shield]is 11.10 being released tomorrow?14:53
westbudali *14:53
adapterso14:54
Arichttp://xkcd.com/96314:54
adapterkoj rece deka sve budali14:54
Aricso true :)14:54
ryannathansActionParsnip: lulz, were you talking to someoneweird?14:54
adapterkako ne14:54
TheLastProjectadapter: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList14:54
sgs2_usrlibScout_: I got asked to post this question in OS specific channel, and now u are asking me to post back to vmware channle....lol14:54
SuhelHello the world14:54
Bisu[Shield]am i invisible?14:54
TheLastProjectYou are partially visible14:55
libScout_sgs2_usr: hahahaha... you could try turning off Unity to see if that is it14:55
sgs2_usrlibScout_: i am on gnome-classic14:55
TheLastProjectBisu[Shield], the release date is planned for tomorrow so likely, but of course not 100% sure, you never know what happens14:55
SuhelThelastproject best of Luck for your last project14:55
TheLastProjectNo clue around what time tomorrow though14:55
libScout_sgs2_usr: whats the host OS?14:55
sgs2_usrlibScout_: Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit14:55
Suhel^^. Yay am gonna get an update tomorrow14:56
AricWhere can I find a list of changes in 11.10 vs 11.04?14:56
HalabundHow do I set the path for root (sudo)?? It seems to have a different path from that set in /etc/environment14:56
HalabundWhy does this have to be so difficult?14:56
Bisu[Shield]i just recked by desktop by upgrading from gnome 3.02 to 3.2, i was about to do a fresh install because I cannot figure it out but if 11.10 is being release I prefer to upgrade14:56
SuhelArIc in the release notes14:56
AricSuhel: Where are the release notes..14:56
systemclientI do "# su tomcat6" and I stay root. any idea on this?14:57
Bisu[Shield]im also curious what is the worse that can happen if I upgrade today14:57
SuhelAric you will find em once 11.10 is released14:57
BluesKajanyway bbl14:57
libScout_sgs2_usr: see if this thread helps http://communities.vmware.com/message/7096714:57
sgs2_usrlibScout_: okay14:57
SuhelBisu[Shield]: nothing worse could happen unless you haven't backed up your data14:57
TheLastProjectBisu[Shield], I would recommend waiting for the official release, buggy releases are no fun >:14:58
sgs2_usrlibScout_: this thread describe for windows as host14:58
Suhel#ubuntu ^^.14:58
Pici: Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.14:58
libScout_sgs2_usr: im assuming you are running on an intel pc... its hardware specific not OS14:58
sgs2_usrlibScout_: yes, it's Intel14:59
sgs2_usrlibScout_: but how do you explain it works for 7.1.4 and not 8?14:59
Laura_morenitaHola14:59
SuhelPici I was wondering why no one is objecting the discussions and there you are :-D14:59
SuhelLaura_morenita: Holla14:59
Lithos84Aric: This may be help to have an idea: http://ur1.ca/5dves14:59
Bisu[Shield]on a separate note, why is gnome 3 not the session manager as opposed to unity, I find unity awkward14:59
TheLastProjectUnity is to cater to make Linux easier for new users. You can still switch to Gnome by choosing "Ubuntu Classic" I believe15:00
SuhelBisu[Shield]: you can have classic menu easily15:00
Lithos84Laura_morenita: Hello.15:00
libScout_sgs2_usr: could be a ton of reasons... but probably something to do with graphic card acceleration...15:00
Laura_morenitaHolà15:00
sgs2_usrlibScout_: yeah, that's what i thought too....15:01
SuhelThelastproject that option will only be available if he installs gnome shell from software center :-)15:01
sgs2_usrlibScout_: no solution....sigh :D15:01
TheLastProjectReally?15:01
libScout_sgs2_usr: sorry... degrade?15:01
TheLastProjectI thought I could switch without any installation =/15:01
sgs2_usrlibScout_: i need to use 8 features15:01
SuhelTheLastProject: lol.. yeah but shell is not a heavy software15:02
libScout_sgs2_usr: well crap on a stick... i would go back to VMWare and see if others are having trouble with graphics on WS815:02
libScout_libScout_: and if so, open a ticket15:02
sgs2_usrlibScout_: yeah, i think i will open a ticket..15:03
dydguys how can i kill Gimp by command line?15:03
dydcan't find the process, and it crashed15:03
greg3000dyd: killall -9 gimp15:03
jribdyd: pkill gimp   ?  If it's not gimp, try: ps -ef | grep gimp15:03
dydcan't find the processù15:04
greg3000I'm running openbox, I'm trying to follow a tutorial and it says go to "System --> Preferences --> Passwords and Encryption Keys " then "Right click on Passwords --> Passwords: Login "  -- Anyone know how to load this by CLI?15:04
greg3000dyd: can you get to your system monitor?15:05
dydwhat was the link for the page with the paste box?15:05
Stanley00dyd: run xkill, and click on gimp15:05
ryannathansehh, so I install ubuntu 11.04 64bit in a VM because it hates me so badly15:05
tzhuanghello ubuntu'hello ubuntu'ers15:05
jerothIn 11.04 what is the current recommended windows media player plugin alternative for firefox?15:05
ryannathansI get forcer to use classic gnome...15:05
Lithos84dyd: sudo killall gimp-2.615:05
greg3000anyone know what I should do about my question?15:05
tzhuangis there anything i can do to get ready for the upcoming 11.10 release?15:05
dydit's not working15:05
dydwait15:05
M-n-Mhow many hours do i have to wait to get my hands in the Ocelot? :D15:05
ryannathanstzhuang: reformat15:05
tzhuangryannathans: wait really? = =15:06
dydLithos84: thank you, it worked15:06
jribgreg3000: that's probably seahorse15:06
Lithos84dyd: You're welcome.15:06
greg3000jrib: thanks for the suggestion :)15:06
tzhuangfirst time going thru a distribution upgrade15:06
tzhuangwould it be better to reinstall the OS15:07
tzhuangor just upgrade from natty15:07
LjLtzhuang: unless you encounter problems upgrading, i don't see why you would reinstall15:07
auronandacetzhuang: it would be better to reinstall afresh (especially since 11.10 gets rid of gnome2 for gnome3)15:07
M-n-Mtzhuang: yea, reinstalling is the ultimate option15:08
LjLwhatever i guess15:08
tzhuangsource amnesia, but yea i have heard that reinstalling was better15:08
tzhuanganyone care to spare the details if it's not too technical15:08
auronandaceLjL: i'm expecting an influx of upgrade problems in this channel15:08
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FloodBot1jas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:09
M-n-Mwhat's happening?15:09
* LjL rolls eyes15:10
greg3000fellas I'm running openbox but needing to enable the keyring on startup so the system can remember the wireless password.. can I ask for any suggestions?15:10
wellington3258159115:10
auronandacewellington: if that is a password, i'd change it if i were you15:11
fritschauronandace: it was a joke :-)15:11
greg3000i'm running 11.04 natty just using openbox15:11
ryannathansso i install 11.0415:11
ryannathanswhat's this horrid ui?15:11
g0rsis anybody using compiz here? animations aren't working, can you suggest what's wrong?15:12
phlak_userg0rs: are they turned off, maybe?15:12
g0rsphlak_user: they are turned on , along with other effects such as wobble . do i have to disable all other effects inorder for animations to work?15:13
phlak_userg0rs: nope15:13
phlak_userg0rs: are you using ccsm to tweak compiz?15:13
auronandace!unity | ryannathans15:13
ubotturyannathans: Unity is the default UI for Ubuntu 11.04. Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. You can still boot to the classic GNOME desktop; see !classic.15:13
g0rsphlak_user: i have compiz manager and a blue launchpad with which i configure its settings.15:14
phlak_userg0rs: ok15:14
greg3000anyone advise against trying this in 11.04? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136   I'm trying to setup wlan /w wpa inside /etc/network/interfaces15:15
g0rsphlak_user: is there any way to enable them ?15:15
phlak_userg0rs: i am not aware of any way other than ccsm sorry15:15
greywalk hi. how do i create a password protected archive with ark?15:16
ryannathanseth0 is connected in ifconfig, nothing is working in network manager15:16
ryannathanshow can i get network manager to use eth015:16
auronandaceryannathans: if it is wired it should do so automatically15:16
greg3000or how could I access gui keyring options from openbox?15:16
BashI know this is not exactly ubuntu specific, but my hard drive is failing and making 3 short and increasingly pitched beeps, I can't find what it may mean. (award bios)15:17
ryannathansauronandace: apparently not, there's absolutely nothing in network manager15:17
BashTried googling for a beep codes manual but can't find anything concerning hard drives.15:17
ZnuffBash, there aren't any15:17
greywalk hi. how do i create a password protected archive with ark?15:17
auronandaceryannathans: problems seem to be attracted to you15:18
ryannathansauronandace: they do15:19
jribBash: ##hardware15:19
ryannathansauronandace: network IS working in background, eth0 is connected, I installed over PXE, network manager is retarded and doesn't use eth015:19
auronandaceryannathans: i've never used pxe15:20
ryannathansERROR:root:Could not find def gateway info in /proc15:20
auronandaceryannathans: still couldn't get the raid to workl?15:20
ryannathansERROR:root:Could not find default gateway by running route15:20
ryannathansauronandace: nop15:20
greg3000how to check if gnome-keyring is running?15:21
ryannathansauronandace: i have resorted to VM again -.-15:21
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auronandaceryannathans: got to admire your patience, you've been trying for a week15:22
ryannathansauronandace: hehe ;) I need it for work15:23
Guest49012oops, i forgot how to register a user name in freenode15:23
kolinabHey thanks a lot for the suggestion on how to add an app to the dash . . . I got it working. First time I've come to IRC with a problem. Appreciate the help!15:23
MrElendigGuest49012: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup15:24
Guest49012MrElendig: thanks :)15:25
Gale0nGirlyGirl: I get this error : Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version15:25
Gale0nI downloaded the ATI drivers15:25
MrElendigGale0n: use the package system instead15:26
puffHm, the pandora browser-based client kinda sucks (keeps getting stuck and then eventually asking me to reload the page).   Is there a way to listen to it with rhythmbox or some other client?  Or are there better services?15:26
Gale0nIt doesn't work15:26
MrElendigGale0n: and note that catalyst 11.9 is more or less totally broken15:26
MrElendigGale0n: what card do you have?15:26
bhushHello guys does the problem of blank screen after booting is solved in 11.10???15:26
Picibhush : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.15:26
Gale0nATI Radeon X1950 Pro15:26
Guest49012MrElendig: my Guest49012 means the nickname i picked up is used by others?15:26
MrElendigGale0n: with that card I would use the free drivers instead15:27
bhushPici : Thanks15:27
Gale0nI did.15:27
MrElendigGuest49012: probably15:27
ryannathansif this ever ends up working, i'll move to xfce415:27
Gale0nI got it from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx15:27
MrElendigGuest49012: /quote ns info thenick15:27
MrElendigGuest49012: if it's a long time since it was used, you can ask #freenode to have it dropped15:27
auronandaceryannathans: good choice, i use xfce (never liked gnome (both 2 and 3))15:27
Guest49012MrElendig: thanks for your help15:28
Guest49012MrElendig: seems someone have used this nick15:29
Gale0nGuest45290: Or you use a protected nick.15:30
Gale0nHow do I access my internal 80-gig slave ?15:31
Gale0nFrom Unity15:31
hroiI would like to share a folder so that it can be accessed through the /net/mymachine  mechanism15:31
hroithere is a firewall so that intranet machines cannot be accessed from the outside15:31
ryannathansauronandace: hitech.selfip.org/submission.xml.html15:32
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bhushDoes anyone have ATI card and ubuntu 11.04 and blank screen problem???15:34
Gale0nbhush: me15:34
maizuddin35i have ATI card15:34
auronandaceryannathans: that is a lot of info15:35
maizuddin35but there is no problem yet like that..15:35
c1t0s1dHello everyone there15:35
Marcus__Hi, Some releases ago ubuntu released the final ISO a few days before the actual release date. So im wondering if the image on the daily build from a few hours ago will be okay to install right away15:35
bhushGale0n : How do u solve it...???15:35
Gale0nI didn't15:36
maizuddin35nope..15:36
bhushSo15:36
bhush?15:36
Lithos84c1t0s1d: Hello.15:36
Gale0nI took my card and smashed it, then bought this one, and I have another problem, but no blank screen15:36
c1t0s1dI have a bug with tomboy, I can not synchronize with my ubuntu one accout... anybody has the same issue?15:37
maizuddin35download the latest driver?15:37
c1t0s1dHi lithos8415:37
bhush:D15:37
maizuddin35tomboy...15:37
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TundmatuI installed a driver which makes ubuntu crash at startup. Is there any way i can remove it?15:38
Gale0nGirlyGirl: This is outdated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI15:38
Gale0nOnly up to 9.0415:38
libscout_when setting up an unprivileged user for vsftpd, what does the daemon need access to and not?15:38
maizuddin35remove it at /usr/share/ati...15:39
Gale0n?15:39
maizuddin35ok15:40
maizuddin35you see a black screen ...15:40
ryannathansauronandace: it is.15:40
maizuddin35you reboot, into recovery mode.15:41
maizuddin35go to low graphic15:41
ryannathansauronandace: can you help?15:41
maizuddin35then enter this : sudo aticonfig --initial15:41
puffIf anybody's curious about the pandora/ubuntu question, I found a (so far) nice gnome client, Pithos.15:41
maizuddin35if you see nothing again on the reboot , go back into low graphics mode to uninstall the driver15:42
c1t0s1dsomeone that can help me? The bug is that the "Save" button is disabled, even if I already authorize the computer... I'm using ubuntu 11.10 updated15:42
auronandaceryannathans: just looking through it i notice the e1000 driver is loaded but the "internet test" fails (although the "network test" passes)15:42
martianDoes anyone know of any sort of mail server that runs as a user-space application? Something that doesn't run as a daemon but instead is launched on demand.15:42
Picic1t0s1d : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.15:42
auronandaceryannathans: no idea why that is15:42
c1t0s1dPici: thanks15:42
libscout_martian: read or write email or both?15:43
Tundmatumaizuddin35: How do you enter recovery mode?15:43
martianlibscout_: Just looking for something to use as a junk email when registering for junk online, ya know :)15:43
auronandaceryannathans: any reason why you had to install withing virtualbox via pxe? why not a normal vbox install?15:43
somsipmartian: sendemail http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail15:43
ryannathansauronandace: cam15:44
ryannathansauronandace: can't be bothered finding disc15:44
libscout_martian: i feel that... why not make your life easy and make a gmail account?15:44
ryannathansauronandace: i'll try normal15:44
martiansomsip: I'm looking to receive email15:44
auronandaceryannathans: sorry, not following you, you must have had the disk to install via pxe15:44
martianlibscout_: because then I have to log out of my actual gmail account ;)15:45
somsipmartian: ah - wrong idea here then :)15:45
ryannathansauronandace:  extracted disc to nfs and it can boot off that15:45
auronandaceryannathans: with virtualbox you only need the iso file (just mount it in the vbox cd)15:45
ryannathansauronandace: I know, i'm trying to find it15:46
libscout_martian: so annoying right? i have Google apps handle my domain specific email and my gmail account and it gets frustrating switching between the too... i've actually thought about switching one account to another email webclient like yahoo or ::GASP:: hotmail15:46
martianlibscout_, somsip: I'll just install a regular mail server I suppose. I just remember using some windoze app I used once that was basically a stripped down email client with a server built in, so you could register for junk as blahblah@my.ip.address15:46
epaphushello. Is there anyway I can list only the IPs bound to the machine without going through ifconfig info?15:47
gabyhi - is there any possibility to upgrade my ubuntu 10,10 to ubuntu studio without installing from DVD ?15:48
BigMaoHi there, I'm ssh-ing into my workstation and running emacs in a window.  I'm etting errors such as "GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server" and "GLib-WARNING **: In call to g_spawn_sync(), exit status of a child process was requested but SIGCHLD action was set to SIG_IGN" and things like that.. can someone tell me what's going on?15:48
Lithos84gaby: Yes, install ubuntu-studio15:48
Suhelhiya all15:48
gabyLithos84 : how to install it15:49
Lithos84gaby: sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop15:49
PiciBigMao: Is it launching your application or not?15:50
BigMaoPici, it is launching my application but after a delay.15:50
PiciBigMao: So ignore the warnings.15:50
gabyLithos84  : thanks15:51
BigMaoPici, what is the probability that the errors are causing the application to load more slowly?15:51
Lithos84gaby: You're welcome.15:51
PiciBigMao: Low. If you're running this through a forwarded X session, then that is more likely to cause what seem to be speed issues.15:51
BigMaoPici, when I run another program like "meld" everything happens very fast and I don't get the error.  Also, my workstation is just in the other room, it's a fast connection. :)15:52
ryannathansauronandace: i might jus download xubuntu15:53
auronandaceryannathans: thats what i use (and archlinux too)15:53
gabyLithos84 : seems like done - shall i restart my system to  get effect - or ?15:54
auronandaceryannathans: if you hold off till tommorow you could get the stable release of 11.1015:54
PatriotHello everybody15:55
Lithos84gaby: Logout, choose Ubuntu Studio session and login.15:55
zanberdoI have an ubuntu server with a time problem. For some reason the date reports in UTC even though I've set the tzdata to PDT. I know the hardware clock is set to UTC, but for some reason the device does not accept that it's PDT. Any suggestions for what I should be looking at?15:55
Lithos84Patriot: Hello.15:57
PatriotHello Lithos8415:57
PatriotI am in desperate need of help, and if this is not the right chat can you please advise me which channel to go to15:57
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Gale0nPatriot: What help ?15:58
BluesKaj!ask | Patriot15:58
ubottuPatriot: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:58
craigbass1976Is there a way to log someone out remotely?  I left myself logged in at home, and I want to run an app from where I am.  I could just shut thunderbird down and then fire it up over ssh, but it made me wonder how to give myself the boot if I wanted to.15:58
PatriotCool will do15:58
jribcraigbass1976: you can kill the user's processes15:59
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craigbass1976jrib, what about just killing their login?  It would also be a fun trick to play on my wife...16:00
jribcraigbass1976: sure16:00
craigbass1976I used to pop up xmessage or something; I haven't done it in a while (since the gun cabinet got put in a more accessible place)16:00
PatriotI have installed Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, I am setting up the server for domain logons, everything is going 100%, until i want to add a Windows 7 machine, when i restart then the windows 7 machine says can't find the domain, i ave applied the registry settings etc but no luck at all16:00
jribheh16:00
ryannathansauronandace: i'm getting my ISP to mirror xubuntu also in their FTP16:00
PatriotI have also re-installed Ubuntu server16:01
auronandaceryannathans: awesome, maybe you could make the ops aware of that16:01
Gale0nPatriot: domain logons ?16:02
zagibuPatriot: just either use linux desktops or buy a windows server...I know, you didn't want to hear that16:02
Gale0nzagibu: No need to buy16:02
Gale0n:P16:02
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PatriotGale0n yeah where the windows machine logs onto the Ubuntu server16:03
PatriotNah not going to do that16:03
Gale0nPatriot:  hmm16:03
Gale0nlike, in Enterprise ?16:03
Chatlook-73889hi16:03
Gale0nOK wait, I'll try and help, only in query16:03
compdoclinux and windows domains seems like too much works16:03
PatriotGale0n It is windows 7 pro16:04
compdocwork16:04
AricWhat is the best Active Directory alternative for an Ubuntu Server I want to run at home and have 4-5 laptops connected, roaming profiles and syncing of home directories for laptops that leave the network and return is a must and the main purpose16:04
gabylithos84: is there a room for ubuntu studio here ?16:04
linuxlainenHi all16:04
AricI'm looking around on Google but I have zero experience with any of them so looking for recs16:04
linuxlainenany idea when is 11.10 going to be released?16:04
zagibuAric: ldap?16:04
Ariclinuxlainen: tomorrow16:04
Krenairlinuxlainen, tomorrow16:04
Gale0nlinuxlainen: tomorrow16:04
Gale0nolol16:04
auronandacelinuxlainen: 13th16:04
linuxlainen:D16:04
Gale0ni was too slow :(16:05
ejvyou guys must lag something fierce16:05
linuxlainenis that confirmed date?16:05
Ariclinuxlainen: yes16:05
linuxlainenperfect16:05
linuxlainenthank you16:05
Ariczagibu: yes16:05
gabysome body guide me for ubuntu studio room please ?16:05
ejvyou know you could have easily googled: "ubuntu release schedule"16:05
* ejv facepalms16:05
auronandacelinuxlainen: you should check the topic when you join the channel16:05
linuxlainenejv: I did but it was listed as best guess only16:06
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bittyx-laptophiya, i have a question about hard links vs. soft links. say i need to have a movie available for download on my website. is it a good idea then to have the movie stored in, say, ~/films/some_film_name.avi and create a link to that with ~/public_html/download/film/the-name-i-want-the-user-to-see.avi ? i'm also guessing that a hard link makes more sense, so that i wouldn't have to change all the links if the location of the source file changes?16:06
linuxlainenUbuntu official page doesn't list the date either16:06
bittyx-laptopsorry if the question doesn't seem to belong here - i'm not actually asking for web-dev help, but rather, for a suggestion whether to use a soft link or a hard link for this purpose16:06
gabyi want to go for ubuntu-studio room - any body can help ?16:06
ejvno, it clearly says it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot and here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule16:07
vafiedhello16:07
linuxlainenauronandace: the topic is something I missed :P16:07
ryannathansauronandace: oh wow... 98% rebuilding and restoring raid array while doing everything else. *windows randomly shuts down -updates* imad.16:07
koahello guys i need help with my overheating laptop i need to control the fans speed how to ?16:07
auronandacelinuxlainen: you can see it anytime by typing: /topic16:07
ejvkao: acpi16:08
ryannathansnwindow 316:08
Lithos84gaby: #ubuntustudio16:08
vafiedhey guys any of you uses a dock laptop16:08
auronandaceryannathans: i'm glad i rarely use windows (and when i do i set it so that i manually check for updates and it requires confirmation to restart)16:09
ryannathansauronandace: mine requires manual confirmation, except i was typing and it auto accepted...16:09
koaafter i install acpi i run it it give me this $ sudo acpi16:09
koaBattery 0: Unknown, 100%16:09
prad_hi16:10
* ryannathans starts the 16 hour auto restore again...16:10
auronandaceryannathans: ah yes, that is irritating16:10
yaccCan anyone please explain why partimage is 32bit only in Lucid? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=partimage16:10
prad_i'm a total newbie...i have been using using windows all these days...is ubuntu the right way to start off with linux?16:10
ejvkoa: im guessing you'll need a combination of acpi hooks, lm-sensors, and fancontrol, although any customization of that stuff is probably outside the realm of support this channel provides16:11
Lithos84prad_: Yes, it is.16:11
ryannathansprad_: ubuntu or linux mint16:11
Gale0nprad_: Go for kubuntu16:11
zagibuAric: not sure how you can get the home dir sync working16:11
auronandaceprad_: try it in a vm (virtualbox)16:11
ejvprad_: no, use gentoo16:11
Aricprad_: Ubuntu is the most popular distro but you may find Linux Mint more familiar to WIndows with the placement of buttons and options16:11
Gale0nKubuntu is the best, for new Linux users16:11
prad_thanks people :)16:12
Aricprad_: I would say Ubuntu is more like Mac OS, Mint more like Windows (not really but that's my best comparison for converts)16:12
Gale0nMac sux16:12
koaallright thanx <ejv>16:12
Aricprad_: per Gale0n Kubuntu would work for a Windows convert as well16:12
prad_so kubuntu/livemint/vm right?16:12
ryannathansmy first linux... nogui16:12
ejvubuntu doesn't teach newcomers anything about the OS, the gentoo install does... you guys are all deluded lol16:12
ndrjIt all depends on where the X for closing Windows is.16:12
Gale0nKubuntu FTW16:12
ndrj:D16:12
Gale0n<3316:12
Mike9863When my computer resumes from sleeping, it takes quite a while for the network manager to start looking for wifis and connecting to my own. Is there a way to make it work right as I resume?16:12
prad_gentoo?16:12
ryannathansprad_: ubuntu or linux mint vm16:12
Aricprad_: don't use gentoo if you're new to Linux, please16:13
Gale0nryannathans: Not Ubuntu, KUbuntu16:13
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prad_which one is the closest to windows?16:13
Gale0nAnd yes, as Aric said, not Gentoo16:13
Aricprad_: Linux Mint imo16:13
Ben64if you use mint, you can't get support here16:13
ryannathansGale0n: kde? why?16:13
Ben64so ubuntu wins :D16:13
Gale0nprad_: Mint or KUbuntu16:13
BluesKajBBL... more yard work :P16:13
gauravdis ubuntu the best linux distro?16:13
libscout_i want to allow vsftpd user to create a file in a directory not owned by the daemon user... whats the permissions for this?16:13
prad_thanks :)16:13
Ben64!best | gauravd16:13
ubottugauravd: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:13
Gale0nnp16:13
ejvthe ubuntu installer is a magical wizard of noviceness, he said he wanted to *learn*16:14
Aricgauravd: it's OPINION but it is the most popular by downloads and community size etc16:14
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prad_just download and install stuff?(linux mint)16:14
gauravdok thanks ubottu16:14
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Gale0nprad_: Yes16:14
fedehi everyone, i just installed gnome 3.2 on ubuntu 11.10 beta2. it works straight fine, but everytime i log off or i restart, it logs me back into unity. how could I force it to log me into gnome 3.2? I tried to remove the unity package but it still logs me into.. a big nautilus window.16:14
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prad_thanks16:14
Ben64applications come from package manager mostly on ubuntu and mint16:14
Gale0nprad_: If you don't like it, use KUbuntu16:14
Lithos84!11.10 | fede16:14
ubottufede: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+116:14
ejv"give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, feed him for life"16:15
Aricprad_: I've usually suggested Mint to all my Windows lovers, and none have complained or wanted to even return to windows afterwards.. Mint is based on Ubuntu but it is it's own in terms of support and such16:15
prad_@Galeon sure16:15
Gale0nfede: Easy16:15
prad_<Aric> sure will give it a try16:15
fedeGale0n: sorry.. i'm quite a n00b =)16:16
Gale0nWhen logging in, at the bottom (before you put in your password), at the bottom, there should be a bar16:16
Gale0nIn that bar is a drop-down menu, with "Ubuntu" inside it16:16
Gale0nClick that, and choose Gnome16:16
fedeGale0n: thnx a lot, i'll try now16:17
Gale0nnp16:17
Aricprad_: I would still suggest YOU try both, Linux Mint and Kubuntu ... and maybe even try plain old Ubuntu to see if you enjoy that... Linux can run easily in 512mb VM's and is free and easy to install a VM from a downloaded ISO so :)16:17
zsekomp14hal ghalo16:17
zsekomp14halo halo16:17
zsekomp14goodmorning16:17
Aricprad_: You will notice Mint's support is much more...lacking... see: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=152 and pm me for anything else on this since I fear we're going too far off topic and cluttering the room but i have used many of them and can talk more if you wish16:18
Abhijithi zsekomp14 do you have a ubuntu question?16:18
zsekomp14no, im only tryin a ubunto on lesson16:18
ToeKutterAnyone proficient in the "DD" command? - I want to copy SDA1 to SDC in an image file form.16:19
ToeKutterI dont want to lose my existing data on sdc16:20
dr_willisToeKutter:  theres dozens of dd tutoruials out there.. you would put sda to sdc.. or sda1 to sdc1  normally.16:20
ToeKutteri've seen direct copys, but nothing using image file16:20
dr_willisToeKutter:  if you want to put sda1 in am image file.. you just use of=/path/to/whatever.image16:20
ToeKutteryes, but that only makes an image file of your current sda16:20
dr_willisToeKutter:  Thats what i saw you ask....16:21
ToeKutterand if you dont have the space on SDA16:21
Dracosoftif you want to save your data, make a new partition and write to that16:21
dr_willisToeKutter:  you dont do sda image to sda.. you put it on whever you mounted sdc at16:21
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dr_willisdd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/mountpointofsdc1 bs=204816:22
ToeKutterdd if=/dev/sda1 of=~/disk2.img  --this only makes an image on sda116:22
zagibuso?16:22
fedeGale0n: just tried.. but i can't see any bar on the bottom.. there's just the bar on the top with the computer's name on the left, then the speenwheel-like selector on the left side of the screen..16:22
dr_willisToeKutter:   so why are you uysing that path then?16:22
dr_willisToeKutter:  and you dont really want to image sda1 IF its in use.16:22
zagibuwhy would you output to ~/disk2.img?16:22
Gale0nfede, there's no bar on top16:23
ToeKutterdisk2.img is just a nme16:23
dr_willisThis is when it would be a good idea to read up on some bash and linux basics befor messing with dd.16:23
dr_willisToeKutter:  and ~/ IS a path16:23
zagibustoring an image of itself is kind of impossible for any kind of disk16:23
zagibu(if it's not compressed)16:23
ToeKutterof=/media/mountpointofsdc1 bs=2048 --- so of = /dev/sdc/file1.img then Willis?16:23
zagibuno16:24
dr_willisToeKutter:  i said several times the MOUNTPOINT of sdc....16:24
dr_willisToeKutter:  mountpoint of sdc1 to me specific.16:24
fedeGale0n: it lookes like this http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/screen-shot-2011-10-06-at-18.06.57-copy.jpg16:24
ToeKutterwhat?  /dev/sdc1 is the mountpoint ?16:24
dr_willisToeKutter:  NO it is NOT the mountpoint.16:25
dr_willisthats the DEVICE name.16:25
vafiedi have a dell with a dock port is there a way to configure the docking and undocking process ?16:25
dr_willis!mount | ToeKutter16:25
ubottuToeKutter: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount16:25
DaniG2khey guys what's a good tool to develop in php with ubuntu?16:26
dr_willisToeKutter:  you should boot a live cd. Mount sdc1 to some location like /media/sdc1  then image sda1 to  the /media/sdc116:26
DaniG2ka good development environment?16:26
ToeKutteru only need to mount something if its not mounted already. - the distor sees the drive16:26
Gale0nhmm16:26
vafiedDaniG2k: aptana studio16:26
DaniG2kthat isn't just gedit16:26
DaniG2kthanks :)16:26
Gale0nDaniel0108: Notepad++16:26
Gale0nFrom Sourceforge16:26
dr_willisToeKutter:   if you want to make an Image in a file.. you dont do an of=/dev/XXX    that would be to the device not an image16:26
zagibuAptana is based on the eclipse platform, just fyi16:26
ActionParsnipDaniel0108: gedit16:26
dr_willisToeKutter:  and you dont want to image sda1 if its monunted. or at least its not a good idea.16:27
Gale0nfede: You use gnome-shell ?16:27
Daniel0108ActionParsnip: wrong nick :)16:27
ActionParsnipd'oh16:27
fedeGale0n: yes, i just installed it from the package manager16:27
ToeKutterOk thank you willis. I am booted using a live cd16:28
Bilzhello. i have some files in a partition on my drive, and some of them seem to have disappeared in nautilus. going through terminal to the folder and running ls, I get messages like "ls: cannot access academic1110.odt: Input/output error"16:28
Bilzany ideas?16:28
McQueenhi, how can i look the detail of a domain name ( ns, ip ) by terminal?16:28
zagibudying disk?16:28
ActionParsnipBilz: is the partition healthy?16:28
zagibuit happens, you know16:28
dr_willisBlInK311:  hard drive or fs has errors.. you may want to try fscking the disk. or imageing it to some other location befor trying to fsck it.. and try to fsck the image.16:28
Gale0nfede, give me a min16:28
AbhijitMcQueen, nmap?16:28
BilzActionParsnip, I hope so? Other files are opening fine, its just a few that aren't showing up16:29
Gale0nfede: Press ALT+F216:29
McQueenAbhijit, its a tool... i am looking for a terminal command16:29
fedeGale0n: it's very kind from you16:29
fedeok16:29
emorrisis it right that I should be having to manually modprobe b44 and b43 to get both my network cards working (b44 for wired, b43 for wireless)?16:29
Gale0nAnd type "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell"16:29
Gale0nfede, np16:29
emorriswoops, wrong channel16:29
joopsAnyone using an open source machine databe/tracking system?16:29
Gale0nI'm just making sure it works16:29
McQueenAbhijit, like net lookup16:29
joopsdatabase that is.16:30
AbhijitMcQueen, no idea then.16:30
McQueenAbhijit, thank you16:30
fedeGale0n: u mean alt+f2 in the login session?16:30
Gale0nNo16:30
Gale0nWhen logged in16:30
Gale0nSorry for mis-direction16:31
fedeoh sorry, didn't see the second message (:16:31
cyphaI'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?16:31
Gale0nNp16:31
smithHello I was wondering if anyone could show me how to mount a windows partion in ubuntu?16:31
dorkjoops: tracking system?16:31
joopsyeah16:31
Abhijitsmith, go to places menu and click on the name of the partition16:32
dorkwhat do you mean by that16:32
PhrogzI have a tablet running Ubuntu (9.04), not Android. I want to be able to SSH into it from my host computer (ideally Windows, could be Ubuntu also). Kicker: only connection is USB from host to tablet. Possible?16:32
ActionParsnipBilz: boot to live CD and you can test it there16:32
KrenairPlaces -> drive label16:32
dorkas far as open source databases we use mysql primarily16:32
joopssomething that can track mac addresses, hardware state, any info we need on servers in our clusters.16:32
emorrissmith, if you go to places>connect to server, then there is an option for windows shares there16:32
smithAbhijit:  that didn't work I used the WuInstaller thingy for ubuntu16:32
dorkjoops: like a monitoring/network identity system?16:32
joopsWe can certainly write one but checking to see if something is out there.16:32
smithI can see the partion only via the partion tool in ubuntu16:32
emorrissmith, oh sorry, misread. I should stop using IRC when tired...16:32
KanocXhey, how can I choose the gnome shell as standard-desktop with autologin in 11.10?16:33
Krenairsmith, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions16:33
joopsWe are currently using centreon/nagios and are considering adding columns or tables for additional host data.16:33
Abhijitsmith, what is that. generally you dont need to do anything manually to be able to mount windows partition just click on it16:33
fedeGale0n: it says the package is updated.. i already tried a purge-reinstall and a reconfigure gnome-shell before16:33
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smithYea the thing called "File system" won't let me see the windows files16:33
joopsOr creating something completely seperate or using some open source tracking system.16:33
smithjust the ubuntu stuff16:33
Lithos84!11.10 | KanocX16:33
ubottuKanocX: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+116:33
BilzActionParsnip, bah, I dont have a livecd with me now :( this kinda sucks16:33
compdocKanocX, last time I tried 11.10, there was no other choices16:34
dorkjoops: ah ok, i typically use nagios and centreon, sometimes throw cacti into it16:34
Gale0nfede: Remove, re-install16:34
Krenairsmith, yeah, that's because you haven't mounted it yet :)16:34
Gale0napt-get remove gnome-shell; apt-get install gnome-shell16:34
smithKrenair:  will follow that tutorial you sent thanks16:34
smithI'll let you know how it goes16:34
joopsdork: what are you using cacti for?16:34
zagibui'm not sure what happens with wubi, though, because last time I checked it installed into a file on the windows partition16:34
ActionParsnipfede: gnome-shell isn't supported here16:34
Polahsmith: Have you mounted your Windows partition?16:34
dorkjoops: there might be some sort of arp monitoring plugin for nagios already but writing one up would be relatively simple as well16:34
smithPolah:  I instaleld with that wubi thing16:35
xakahas anybody tried to use wu-ftpd? "upload" option doesn't work for me, it doesn't change user/group when i upload files (always owned by uploader which is not what i want)16:35
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smithand while in ubuntu It won't allow me to access the windows stuff16:35
dorkjoops: we use cacti for monitoring mysql databases, in particular innodb storage engine stats, as well as all of our servers/nodes with snmp agents16:35
joopsGot it.16:36
Polahsmith: If you plan to be using Ubuntu frequently, it's recommended to do a proper standalone install. WUBI is primarily for trying out the system with a slightly less temporary solution than a live session16:36
fedeActionParsnip: i know.. but the problem seems to be the ubuntu session manager not recognizing my choice, gnome seems to be working fine16:36
dorkjoops: i would be surprised if there were no layer 2 discovery plugins for cacti though16:36
ActionParsnipfede: yes but its gnome3, isn't it?16:36
crazyforki can't find any items under IDEs ..Ubuntu Software Center. Could someone help me pls ?16:36
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smithPolah:  man hehe I was liking wubi and ubuntu hehe I'll just uninstall looks cool but will wait for future releases where the filesystems stuff isn't a problem16:37
zagibusmith: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91435816:37
zagibuit's on /host in Wubi16:37
ActionParsnipfede: to get that, you either are running Oneiric which is offtopic here and supported in #ubuntu+1   or you used the Gnome3 PPA to install it on Natty which is also not supported here and is supported in #gnome16:37
dr_willis!ide16:37
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator16:37
Polahsmith: The filesystems are not a problem generally unless something is wrong. I don't know about WUBI mounting the host filesystem, but something could have gone wrong with your install, or you're using the incorrect options when attempts to mount16:38
fedeActionParsnip: oh sorry.. just logged on the room xchat pushed me16:38
dr_willisI would run away from wubi whenever possible... :)16:38
dr_willisif you need to test out ubuntu safely in windows. Id run it in virtualbox. :)16:38
smithWell you guys are a whole lot more helpful than windows support lol I've been here less than 5mins and I've gotten more than 4 soultions to my problem.16:38
smithGoing to readup on the links you guys sent16:39
gridbagIs there an easy way to make Caps Lock a dead key?16:39
smithThanks and keep up the good support ;P16:39
zagibusmith: can't you quickly check /host?16:39
ActionParsnipgridbag: pull off the key is one way :)16:39
susundbergHey any idea why http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/imagej -- depends on openjdk ? I have sun java installed and i would prefer not to install open jdk16:39
arkanabaranyone know how I might recover my lost MBR, when my disk has been overwritten with LVM?16:39
Polahgridbag: If you go to your keyboard settings on GNOME (probably Unity too), then Layouts tab then Options, there's various setting in there to specify dead keys and other key settings16:40
susundbergarkanabar: you need to re-write the proper mbr16:40
ActionParsnipgridbag: you could use xmodmap to map the key to nothing16:40
agon42hello16:40
susundberg(And as an answear to my question, its solved on 11.11 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagej/+changelog )16:40
Polaharkanabar: You can reinstall GRUB to your MBR to boot with, but if your partition table has been overwritten and you didn't back it up before through something like dd, then it is irretrievable.16:41
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gridbagPolah, Is that in the Control Center? Im running default window mgr on Ubuntu.16:42
Polahgridbag: Just search for "Keyboard" on Unity. Or Preferences > Keyboard in GNOME16:43
noobubuntusomebody pls help!16:43
drahstalright... ubuntu's making me nuts... interfaces file is set right and it still says that the device is not configured... yet ifconfig has no problems16:43
Polah!ask | noobubuntu16:43
ubottunoobubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:43
WsAgentcan anybody help me out to integrate windows active directory in squid proxy server running in ubuntu16:43
Guest17152salve16:43
noobubuntui dont see items under Web development sections16:43
gridbagOh, i see. There is the "Keyboard Layout Options" dialog with a "disable caps lock" in the Options...16:43
noobubuntuand even under IDEs16:43
Polahdrahst: Pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please16:43
Polahgridbag: That could work too16:44
gridbagYes, this is great. im typinjg this in all caps, yelling at you all.16:44
Polahnoobubuntu: In the Software Centre? Have you run apt-get update?16:44
noobubuntuyes I have16:44
Polahgridbag: That's just rude ):16:44
Polahnoobubuntu: Do you get any errors?16:44
noobubuntuno16:44
agon42what tools do you miss noobubuntu16:45
gridbagI need to write this down.16:45
noobubuntueverythings okay except those item listings16:45
Polahnoobubuntu: Try having a look in Synaptic rather than Software Centre16:45
bastidrazorIslam: /usr/bin/pidgin  is the normal path for pidgintools do you miss noobubuntu16:45
bastidrazor12:45 < gridbag> I need to write this down.16:45
bastidrazor12:45 < noobubuntu> everythings okay except those item listings16:45
noobubuntuyeah i did ..  but just wan to know whats wrong with my sofware center ?16:45
Polahnoobubuntu: Try running this and pastebinning the output: sudo apt-get -s install bluefish16:46
gridbagbastidrazor : what are you trying to tell me?16:47
arkanabarI went and burned myself a copy of RIP Linux; TestDisk is locating old partitions for me.  <whew>.16:49
noobubuntudone . http://paste.ubuntu.com/706831/16:49
Krenairarkanabar, how do you just lose partitions?16:49
Gale0nCalinou: From Sauerbraten ??16:49
Calinouyes16:49
Calinouknown troll in #ubuntu-offtopic, even banned from here ;)16:50
Gale0nxD16:50
Gale0nxDD16:50
arkanabarKrenair, I didn't properly anticipate Ananconda's behavior.16:50
Gale0nI'm helper :316:50
Calinoucool, 11.10 comes tomorrow16:50
CalinouI'm not gonna lose my files again = not gonna update, better go unsupported than lose my stuff16:50
Gale0nI know16:51
Gale0nLol16:51
arkanabarI'm going to not upgrade, until I see that power consumption has fallen.16:51
Gale0nJust do the terminal upgrade16:51
Calinousucks16:51
jeroth!12.0416:51
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) will be the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/78416:51
Calinoulol16:51
gridbagbi-annual "forgot to backup some files" day.16:51
Gale0n!12.04 | Calinou16:51
ubottuCalinou: please see above16:51
drahstPolar: http://pastebin.com/x6ZNrneA16:51
Gale0nhmm16:51
gridbagsemi-annual, rather.16:52
Calinoubi-annual "omg, want to update to much but not lose my files"16:52
Roastedso I'm setting up a dhcp/ltsp server and my client is hanging on boot. Any idea what this means? http://pastebin.com/Cg7qEMFv16:52
drahster... Polah that is16:52
Gale0nCalinou: I updated, no problemas16:52
noobubuntuumm.. polah heres mine too http://paste.ubuntu.com/706831/16:52
CalinouFAKE updated yes16:52
Calinounot a real update16:52
Calinouand... it brokes everything, don't forget16:52
compdocdrahst, that looks good16:53
Gale0nlol16:53
drahstno idea why the system's complaining16:53
compdocdrahst, check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules   - sometimes the devices found there get in the wrong order if you have been making hardware changes. You just delete the #pci devices and reboot, and Ubuntu will repopulate that file with the devices in the correct order16:53
Polahdrahst: And it says it's not configured, or fails to connect?16:53
drahstit brings it up just fine on startup, I can use that interface just fine, but when I go to restart networking or use ifdown/ifup, it complains16:54
drahstwhen I added the interface, I only edited the interfaces file16:54
drahstwas I supposed to do something else?16:54
Polahnoobubuntu: Hmm, strange that SC doesn't pick that up. Purging and reinstalling it might work, but I'm not sure if that will break the Ubuntu Desktop package set.16:54
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noobubuntuOh :/16:55
compdocdrahst, no, but that file I mentioned gets screwed up16:55
noobubuntuok thanks polah16:55
vikas_srivastavawhat is the scheduled timing of ubuntu 11.10 release?16:55
Polahdrahst: If you got Ubuntu with a desktop by default, nm-applet or similar will handle network management and /etc/network/interfaces isn't used, I don't know exactly how networking is switched between either16:55
compdocon the 15th, isnt it?16:55
th_tomorrow16:56
Polahvikas_srivastava, hopefully tomorrow.16:56
g0rshas anybody encrypted their hard drive in ubuntu 11.04 after installation?16:56
drahstPolah, it's ubuntu server... no desktop, all cli16:56
WsAgentcan anybody help me out to integrate windows active directory in squid proxy server running in ubuntu16:56
th_or, repos are final already if you upgrade16:56
drahstcompdoc, I'll check out that file16:56
vikas_srivastavapolah : i want exact timing if any?16:56
Polahdrahst: Yeah, have a look at what compdoc suggested then16:56
Polahvikas_srivastava, I imagine between 06:00 and 18:0016:56
panfistis there a way to list PPAs on your system, find the stale ones and remove them?16:56
compdocdrahst, I sometimes have to remove Network Manager for things to work right if I do things manually16:57
vikas_srivastavapanfist : admin-> software sources16:57
Abhijitvikas_srivastava, thisisntthecountdown.com16:57
Polahpanfist: /etc/apt/sources.list.d contains files for each installed/enabled PPA, there may be a command with apt to list them though16:57
gunkstaAnyone know how to do the equivalent of ssh -p 2222 user@xx.xx.xx.xx using Virtual Machine Manager? I can access my KVM server when I am on the LAN but I want to be able to access it externally on port 222216:58
Polahpanfist: Of course, if you added them manually they'll be in /etc/apt/sources.list16:58
Polahpanfist: You can use ppa-purge to remove/revert packages installed from PPAs16:58
RoastedQuestion - my syslog on my DHCP/LTSP server is repeating this: Oct 12 08:49:55 ubuntu-ltsp01 dhcpd: DHCPNAK on 192.168.100.20 to 00:0a:95:81:74:17 via eth0. What does it mean?16:58
vikas_srivastavaAbhijit: try this -> http://thisisthecountdown.com/16:58
panfistthanks everyone16:59
Abhijitvikas_srivastava, O.o i just given that link to you! why you giving back to me?17:00
vikas_srivastavaAbhijit: look closely there is some difference .!!17:00
Abhijit'n'17:01
pytherHello17:01
skeasorhello17:01
pytherCan someone pastebin the output of cat /etc/lsb-release?17:01
vikas_srivastavaAbhijit : check both links ..!17:01
savidHi, it seems as if gnome-keyring-daemon stops working after suspending.  How can I get it back up and running without having to log out and in again?17:01
Abhijitvikas_srivastava, both are not opening for me.17:01
pytherI'm writing a distro detecting script, and the distros I use do not use that file, I know ubuntu does17:02
jgcampbell300what would you guys recommend for running virtual machines on Ubuntu ?17:02
skeasorvmware17:02
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Abhijitjgcampbell300, vbox or vmware17:02
roothy17:02
gunkstajgcampbell300:kvm17:02
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Polahpyther, http://paste.ubuntu.com/706838/17:03
Abhijitpyther, http://pastebin.com/GUnsVQAP17:03
pytherAbhijit and Polah, thank you17:03
Abhijitpyther, welcome17:03
intangiris there a new release of ubuntu coming out this month?17:04
jgcampbell300Abhijit, do you have a preference to witch .. i plan on running Linux distros and Microsoft os's for testing purposes17:04
Abhijitjgcampbell300, you try both and decide for yourself thats better17:04
john3voltasgreetings17:04
jgcampbell300Abhijit, thank you17:04
intangiris there a 11.10 release scheduled this month?17:04
RoastedQuestion - my syslog on my DHCP/LTSP server is repeating this: Oct 12 08:49:55 ubuntu-ltsp01 dhcpd: DHCPNAK on 192.168.100.20 to 00:0a:95:81:74:17 via eth0. What does it mean?17:05
oCeanintangir: yes, oct 13th17:05
john3voltasis this channel only for ubuntu chat or is it also for ubuntu live?17:05
Polahintangir: Yes. Tomorrow.17:05
Guest48417y a til des français ici?17:05
Polahjohn3voltas, it's for almost all support topics regarding Ubuntu17:05
Polah!fr | Guest4841717:05
ubottuGuest48417: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.17:05
intangiris the version likely to change between today and tomarrow? can i get it now?17:05
oCeanintangir: the actual release is not available17:06
Ellipsis753Hey, I've still got this problem where torrenting something sends my main harddrive into "read-only" mode, I then have to reboot a wait for a fsck to fix it. I've tried full harddrive self-checks and it seems fine. My ram is also fine. I'm really stuck for what to do but this is very annoying. I've now tried two different torrent programs, both with the same effect. The computer can be fine for hours but the moment17:06
Ellipsis753 the torrent program opens the disk goes straight into read-only mode. What is their I can do? I was wondering if this could be problems with ubuntu system files and if this is the case is their anyway to check them?17:06
intangiris a beta or anything available? that i can easily upgrade tomarrow?17:06
Polahintangir: There may be some last minute fixes, or release may be postponed to fix some things.17:06
intangiri have the day off today and my current install is getting flakey..17:06
oCeanintangir: further discussion/support for 11.10 is in #ubuntu+1 channel17:06
intangirthx17:06
drahst#ifdown eth317:07
drahstSIOCDELRT: No such process17:07
drahsteven after clearinig that file17:07
compdocyou have to reboot to repopulate that file17:08
drahstI did17:08
compdocthen that wasnt the problem17:08
compdocthe nic is seen by lspci?17:09
compdocdoes that file show the nic?17:09
drahstit does17:09
drahstthough they are all out of order still17:09
john3voltasok, i'll post my question. i'm trying to boot ubuntu from grub4dos (or legacy) which will only use the vmlinuz+initrd.lz+filesystem.squash. in my testings, ubuntu starts loading but then stops half-way through it stating that it couldn't find the iso image.17:09
drahstbut it does show them17:09
drahstand the interface is up and working17:09
compdocwell, its the order the motherboard sees them17:09
B08compdoc: ls -.list pci -> all pci cards attached to mother board17:09
deanHi all I am currently using Cowbell and when I try to click on guess song it shows connection has failed error is cowbell no longer used does anyone know?17:10
john3voltasbut as said, i don't want to boot from the image. i want to boot from vmlinuz+initrd.lz+filesystem.squash.17:10
wonderworldhey, how can i start a second instance of a program in unity?17:10
Gale0nCalinou: i never even knew you used Ubuntu17:10
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Calinoulolfail then...17:10
josimarhi17:10
compdocsometimes the onboard nice and the pcie and pci nics dont load inthe order you would like17:11
Gale0nLol17:11
compdoc*onboard nic17:11
drahstit's one of 2 that have a cable in it17:11
cheater__hi17:12
B08hi josimar cheater__17:12
Ellipsis753Could my harddrive be locking into read-only due to high I/O? Apparently some people think it can. Is their anything I can do about this?17:12
cheater__i have a problem, i was installing libxml2 from source using checkinstall, and it aborted17:12
cheater__now i'm left with no libxml so's17:12
wonderworldhey, how can i start a second instance of a program in unity?17:12
wonderworldlike start firefox 2 times17:13
cheater__i need to reinstall the package, but dpkg shows the package that was installed by checkinstall!17:13
cheater__how do i restore the version from the repos?17:13
B08cheater__: sudo apt-get install <name of package > ?17:13
Gale0nB08:Wrong17:14
B08cheater__: I am new17:14
B08to unix based computers17:14
Gale0ncheater__: apt-get remove <package>; apt-get install <package<17:14
Gale0n>>17:14
dr_williswonderworld:  middle click the icon to start a new one i belove.17:14
Mike9863When my computer resumes from sleeping, it takes quite a while for the network manager to start looking for wifis and connecting to my own. Is there a way to make it work right as I resume?17:14
wonderworlddr_willis: this is a netbook. no middle mousebutton17:14
timofonicHello17:14
ljsoftnethi timofonic17:15
B08Gale0n: no purge ?17:15
dr_willisTheres some unity mouse/keyboard chewat sheet somewhere id say look it up.. wonderworld . click both left/right is normally a middle click also.17:15
B08Gale0n:  I am also learning from this17:15
dr_willistheres prob. some other keyboard combos for it./17:15
Gale0nB08, no17:15
Gale0nB08, good luck17:15
Gale0n!17:15
cheater__Gale0n: remove will remove all the dependencies which is half of ubuntu17:15
wonderworlddr_willis: thanks17:15
jmcantrellhow do i set PATH so that it's available to gui apps?17:15
cheater__i need to somehow change which package is selected17:16
cheater__not really sure how17:16
Gale0ncheater__: apt-get reinstall <package<17:16
Gale0n>>17:16
saulotoledohello! I have an earphone, but when I connect it in my netbook I hear the sound at earphone and computer at same time. I want hear only at earohone when connect it17:16
timofonicI experience freeze on some Chromium tabs and occasional small jitering on audio playing. I'm under Ubuntu 11.10 and wonder if it's some kind of known issu or can be solved in some way, as it's annoying17:16
cheater__Gale0n: that does not work, it tries to reinstall the deb created by checkinstall, doesn't find it, and dies17:16
B08apt-get --purge remove      <[--- will remove program and dependencies or does  apt-get remove do that allready17:17
Gale0naptitude reinstall <package<17:17
Gale0n>>17:17
B08cheater__: if you installed from source then it is not in repo17:17
Gale0ndamn i should stop smoking.17:17
B08so apt will not see it17:17
Gale0nB08, apt-get remove is th same.17:17
timofonicThe Chromium problem is a bit dificult to explain, the behaviour is a bit weird. It's not average freeze, but it's like it never loads the page. Sometimes an aaplication crashing window message appears, but the browser it's still loaded17:17
B08Gale0n: thanks :)17:18
Gale0nnp17:18
B08what is purpose of --purge if any ?17:18
timofonicAlso, the audio jitering is just occasional, specially more hearable when starting to play a file or changing music in an audio stream17:18
skeasorI must say, ubuntu has come a long way since the last time I've ran it! :)17:18
compdocubuntu is pretty nice17:18
mecoI'm using openbox to preserve system resources, and I want to access the Windows partition. However, if I start nautilus that seems to invoke xterm (at least in some respects). I can't find any command for mounting the partition using midnight commander, and I'm unfamiliar with the 'mount' command. Any tips?17:18
pangolinB08: purge will also remove the config files17:19
B08pangolin:  Thanks :>)17:19
cheater_B08: libxml2 IS in the repository, but i was installing from source.17:19
pangolinB08: see man apt-get17:19
greg30001any suggestions on what software to use to keep a set of ubuntu clients up to date based on one main system?17:19
timofonicI never had problems in other distros, so this is showing me I should change from Ubuntu to other. I'm considering as some kind of unresolved issue as I've seen older Ubuntu versions have Chomium problems too17:19
Paul_hi guys someone can help me?17:20
ikoniatimofonic: use whatever distro works best to suit your need17:20
AnGuSxDhi17:20
vacho_how can I search an entire folder and subfolders for a specific occurence in a file???17:20
AnGuSxDsomeone here that can help me with a short question?17:20
compdochard to say17:21
oCeanvacho_: find . -type f | xargs grep -i string17:21
cheater_where does dpkg keep its information about which packages are installed from where?17:21
AnGuSxDjust curious, i read tomorrow will be a new ubuntu release, do you know that this is true?17:21
timofonicikonia: OK, I'll do as it seems nobody cares about bugs or problems in Ubuntu. It seems marketing is more important than that...17:21
compdocshould be17:21
ikoniatimofonic: ok, bye17:21
timofonicikonia: Thanks for your support, you are the only one that replied at least...17:22
AnGuSxDnice, cause I've got some probs with 11.04 and I read Kernel 3.0 should be better for my business ^^17:22
Paul_hi can you help me... in the terminal how can i search for the best update server.... default dont connect..... i screwed up unity errasing it... no graphic mode17:24
slsalahey...on my notebook, all four partitions are occupied by windows 7. one of them is the windows 7 boot partition, one is c:\ the other two i dont know. how do i install ubuntu besides windows 7?17:25
dr_willisPaul_:   the pacakge manager i think has some 'find fastest server' item in the menus. there used to be a cli command also i redcall ages ago17:25
JohnRandomgood evening17:26
dr_willisslsala:  normally a special win7 boot. then the actual os. then a rescue/recovery partition. People in #windows maybe able to help better17:26
nyvakenHello everybody, can anybody tell me how to edit conky config?17:26
gunkstagreg30001: ntp17:26
dr_willisnyvaken:  its a text file. any text editor can edit conky config files17:26
ikonianyvaken: it's just a text file, any text editor will do17:26
JohnRandomquick question, I want a user to be able to execute "sudo serbice apache2 restart" without being promped for a password. How would I have to set that in /etc/sudoers?17:27
nyvaken@dr_willis, ikonia, where can I find it?17:27
JohnRandomI found a lot of stuff on google for scripts with a single path, but nothing for service scripts17:27
ikonianyvaken: in your home directory, .conky17:27
MrElendigJohnRandom: man -P "less -p NOPASSWD" sudoers17:28
nyvaken@ikonia .conky dir does not exist there17:28
dr_willisnyvaken:  you may want to spend some time readingg the conky docs at its homepage17:28
nyvakenneither config does.17:28
Paul_<dr_willis> thanks but i have no menus.... no unity....nothing its errased... i can only update via terminal how can i search the server17:28
ikonianyvaken: really ? in your home dir ? do you have a conkyrc17:28
MrElendigJohnRandom: youruser ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/serbice  or whatever the path to it is17:28
conrad_hey there can some one help me with setting my usb audio card as defult on xubuntu 11..417:28
dr_willisnyvaken:  you make a conky config whever you want. and tell conky what one to use. normally its .conkyrc i recall17:29
nyvakenI searched for conkyrc @home dir. it does not exist. I reinstalled app but still havent worked17:29
JohnRandomMrElendig: I got that, but I want to restrict that only to "apache2 restart" …17:29
dr_willisnyvaken:  you MAKE one.17:29
MrElendigJohnRandom: youruser ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/serbice apache2 restart17:29
dr_willisnyvaken:   tthe app does not put one  in your home bby default17:29
MrElendig(yes, it works)17:30
JohnRandomMrElendig: that work's? I'll try that17:30
nyvaken@dr_willis ah I got it 10x.17:30
nyvaken@dr_willis so it could be like nano ~/.conkyrc?17:30
MrElendigJohnRandom: you can even use globbing/regex for selecting arguments17:31
dr_willisnyvaken:  I strongly suggest going to thhe conky homepage and readinng their very detailed docs17:31
B08I have a question say I made a bashrc file and wanted to use it I know that I can use anytext editor to cange the one under ~/.bashrc but say the one that I made is under ~/Desktop/<name>    How can I move just the contents that are inside of the .txt file under ~/Desktop/name.txt  and insert them inside of the ~/.bashrc file ? thanks17:31
JohnRandomMrElendig: nice thing :) thanks17:32
MrElendigJohnRandom: lots of examples in the examples section, including some info about gotchyas etc17:32
dr_willisB08:  open both files in the text editors.  and copy/paste ass needed17:32
B08dr_willis: there is no way to just move the contents with out a txt editor ?17:32
milsemhi17:33
dr_willisB08:  if you knew exactly wwhat lines.. and wanted to spit out some complex baash commands.. yes..17:33
B08how about all the lines then replace ?17:33
Paul_dr_willis: I have no user interface unity is gone i have only terminal to update17:33
dr_willisB08:  thats a little vague..17:33
milsemRecommend me a smtp server that does not limit messages17:34
tok_How do I configure a logitech cordless optical trackman on ubuntu 10.04?  The ball is moving too slow and I would like to know how to configure the buttons.  Thanks17:34
dr_willisPaul_:  there used to be some command line tools. but i  dont recall what it is. you could just edit your sources.list by hand and change the countrry17:34
milsemgmail has limit 500 messages for a day17:34
milsemIf someone uses please find me a private17:35
MrElendigmilsem: run your own?17:35
dr_williscant say ive ever noticed the gmail limit.. :)17:35
g0rsdr_willis: do you use compiz?17:36
MrElendigdr_willis: you are not a spammer or running a ml using gmail as the smtp :p17:36
B08dr_willis:  you are right I think that I need to learn what awk and sed do and the difference17:36
dr_willisg0rs:  ubuntu and unity use compiz by default. :) so yes.17:36
auronandacemilsem: you read 500 emails a day?17:36
MrElendigmilsem: doesn't your isp provide you with a smtp server btw?17:36
B08man pages are ?0o? me17:36
MrElendigauronandace: s/read/send/17:36
g0rsdr_willis: animations aren't working even though i've enabled them. Do you know what could be the reason?17:36
milsemno only for use one time17:37
milsemMrElendig17:37
dr_willisg0rs:  nope. :) you sure compiz is enabled.. 'compiz --replace'  and see?17:37
MrElendigmilsem: just run your own smtp them if it's just for one time use17:37
MrElendigmilsem: there are several small ones that are easy to set up17:37
dr_willisone time emails? use mailinator.17:37
dr_willisgotta love   makeupanemail@mailinator.com :)17:38
MrElendigdr_willis: he's sending not reading17:38
dr_willisMrElendig:  so hes spamming? :)17:38
MrElendigdr_willis: basicly :p17:38
Paul_dr_willis: god im screwed there should be another way? because i type <sudo apt-get update> and does not connect.. no proxy .. and also i delete compiz.. and ´´restore´´ unity... errased. i need help17:38
dr_willisPaul_:  can you even ping the dns servers? or other ip/sites?17:39
dr_willisPaul_:  why would you delete compiz?17:39
g0rsdr_willis: i did that and still there are no effects.17:39
huslagehi everyone. i'm trying to set up this T-Mobile Rocket 4g USB modem. i'm able to send it AT commands, but I'm unsure how to use the usb0 device. Do I still need to use wvdial/ppp to do this?17:39
milsemi can to setup smtp if i have vps, in home my network cannot started smtp. I am with DSL17:39
dr_willisg0rs:  look in terminal for error messages I guess.. check the 'ccsm' tool to see whats enabled.17:39
ActionParsniphuslage: run:  lsusb    and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides17:40
huslageActionParsnip: there don't seem to be any yet17:40
ActionParsniphuslage: is the device inserted?17:41
MrElendigmilsem: unless the eula your isp has bans you from running a smtp server on the line, you can simply run it on your box17:41
martynOneieric + Multi-Monitor + nVidia : The non-login screen always ends up displaying garbage, rather than a blank screen or a copy of the background of the login screen.  I can't find the issue in Launchpad .. is there a known issue?17:41
huslageall the talk is about how to use usb_modeswitch, which i've done17:41
ActionParsniphuslage: if there is no item in lsusb, the device will not be usable in any way17:42
ActionParsniphuslage: try a different USB port17:42
huslageActionParsnip: i have the device working. i don't know how to make it connect to the internet.17:42
milsemok, thanks17:42
huslageActionParsnip: there's no discussion of how the usbnet stuff functions with these cards….or how to make it work.17:42
g0rsdr_willis: compiz wont enabled animations even though i've turned them on. I'm on gnome in ubuntu 11.0417:42
ActionParsniphuslage: its in network manager17:42
MrElendigg0rs: what gfx card and driver?17:43
Paul_dr_willis: i just wanna the default setting... im in usa but for some reason the default server does not connect i changed ´´when it was in graphic mode´´ to serch the server as you said and it work to update... but now i guess i put to default also network connects to the net but not that server... can you help me with command to change the server?17:43
g0rsMrElendig: nvidia 8400gs with nvidia driver17:43
tok_How do I set the speed of a trackball other then in the "mouse config screen" The mouse siders aren't changing the speed on the trackball17:43
auronandacemartyn: 11.10 isn't supported her until it is released17:43
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auronandacehere17:44
Martynauronandace: Yes, spotted the /topic a bit late, switched to #ubuntu+117:44
auronandaceMartyn: thanks17:44
huslagei'm not running any gui, ActionParsnip17:45
tbruff13Does any one know of any free or commerical software that will let me talk and it types the words in libreoffice17:45
andygraybeals_ta/join17:45
MrElendigtbruff13: ?17:45
ActionParsniphuslage: ah, I see. not sure there dude. I don't use 3G here but that's all I have. Maybe the guys in #ubuntu-server can help17:46
huslagek17:46
huslagethanks ActionParsnip17:46
ljsoftnetActionParsnip are usb modems supported by ubuntu?17:46
nyvakenclear17:47
ActionParsnipljsoftnet: sure, usb_modeswitch makes them stop being USB storage and become modems17:47
ActionParsniptbruff13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux17:47
auronandace!modem | ljsoftnet17:47
ubottuljsoftnet: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up17:47
ActionParsnip!info festival17:47
ubottufestival (source: festival): General multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.0.95~beta-5.1ubuntu2 (natty), package size 979 kB, installed size 2860 kB17:47
dr_willisfestival does speech to text now?  wasent that what he was asking?17:48
ActionParsniptbruff13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83837217:48
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ActionParsniptbruff13: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2761417:48
richthegeekhi, I have an SSD in my machine (with / and /home on it) and it keeps dropping out after ~20 minutes of use17:49
richthegeekthe SMART data is showing it's all fine and dmesg isn't saying anything particular17:49
richthegeekhow can I figure out waht's going on?17:49
nyvakendoes anybody know the command for showing memberlist @Irssi?17:49
ActionParsniprichthegeek: is the ram healthy?17:49
richthegeekActionParsnip: possibly, i'll do a memtest on next book17:50
richthegeekit's been sitting in the case for nigh on 3 years now17:50
alkisgIs it normal for wubi installations to have spikes with 50% or more CPU usage for mount.ntfs?17:50
ActionParsnipnyvaken: irssi cheat sheet: http://michael-prokop.at/stg/irc_workshop.txt17:50
alkisgLike, 1 minute spikes? :)17:50
richthegeekthe SSD has a power-on time of 1.1 years so it could just be failing (already ordered the replacement)17:50
auronandacealkisg: i don't know many who use wubi, you may want to try ubuntu in a vm instead17:52
alkisgauronandace: unfortunately in that lab where I want to show ubuntu the machines don't have enough RAM for VMs17:52
xrdodrxalkisg, yes, that's normal17:53
xrdodrxsadly17:53
alkisgxrdodrx: thanks, ouch that makes wubi much less usuable than I thought :(17:53
ActionParsnipdr_willis: can I PM please dude?17:53
auronandacealkisg: can you dual boot in the lab?17:53
xrdodrxalkisg, linux definitely wasn't designed to run on the ntfs file system ;)17:54
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Brajcan i chat regarding edubuntu here17:54
alkisgauronandace: I'll only be teaching there for 5 hours, I wouldn't want to repartition the disks for such a small time. I'll try to boot them as LTSP fat clients (diskless workstations)17:54
dr_willisActionParsnip:  if its fast.. its my bed time. :)17:54
alkisgBraj: sure, and there's also a dedicated #edubuntu channel too17:55
alkisgxrdodrx: yes, but I thought that if it allocated the whole 10 gb up front, it wouldn't have to bother too much with ntfs, as no sectors would be even reallocated... :-/17:55
ActionParsnipdr_willis: PMed ;)17:56
tok_What config file do I edit for adjusting the trackball speed on Ubuntu 10.0417:56
cyphaI'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?17:56
auronandacetok_: just check under the mouse settings17:57
tok_auronandance: I have it set to max speed with no difference.17:58
auronandacetok_: you sure you selected the right pointing device to change the speed of?17:59
tok_auronandace: under System/Pref/Mouse right?18:01
auronandacetok_: i guess so, is there a dropdown list or maybe some tabs: eg. touchpad, usb mouse, trackpoint18:02
auronandacetok_: i use xfce rather than gnome/unity so i'm guessing18:02
YounderSo tomorrow (13'th Oct) is the new ubuntu release18:03
crash1hdHey everyone, it seems that with my machine (I just did a fresh install of 10.10 and the issue I am having with the cdrom drive locking up in 11.04 when closing the tray (regardless if there is a cd or dvd or nothing in it) doesnt exsist) so this issue is something in the upgrade?  Is there any way of figuring out what the issue is) I am running an update now to 11.04 to see if doing this inline fixes it thoughts?18:03
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crash1hdwhen I do a fresh install of 11.04 I have the issue but when I do a fresh install of 10.10 I do not?18:03
thorsten_anyone here know how to set up multiscreen in ubuntu (on intel chip in sandy bridge notebook, displayport) ? that would be epic18:03
auronandaceYounder: yes18:03
MrElendigcrash1hd: usually caused by udisks or similar polling the device18:03
tok_auronandace: no just 2 tabs General and Accessibility18:04
sickn3sshow's glibc-devel named in Ubuntu repos18:04
crash1hdMrElendig, How do I check that?18:04
MrElendigtok_: xrandr --output internalmonitor --mode something --output yourothermonitor --mode whatever --right-of internalmonitor  or similar18:04
MrElendiger.. thorsten_ ^18:05
nyvakenscreen irssi18:06
auronandacetok_: this is what i see: http://imagebin.org/17865518:07
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auronandacetok_: but that is on xfce, very self-explanitory18:07
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tok_its basically the same except you have more input devices...  Its just not having any effect on this new trackball....  it worked great with a regular mouse18:08
libscout_are 137, 138, 139, and 445 the only ports that need to be open for SAMBA?18:09
auronandacetok_: not sure how to help sorry, i tend to use the usb mouse18:09
tok_auronandace:  thanks for trying!18:11
PhrogzI have a tablet running Ubuntu (9.04), not Android. I want to be able to SSH into it from my host computer (ideally Windows, could be Ubuntu also). Kicker: only connection is USB from host to tablet. Possible?18:11
auronandacetok_: no worries :)18:11
xr--Wow :)18:12
auronandacePhrogz: 9.04 is end of life so no longer supported18:12
vafied_any application for listen to online radio from terminal ?18:13
Phrogzauronandace: If it's possible with 10, I could convince someone to upgrade :)18:14
crash1hdMrElendig, hmm will i be able to downgrade the udisk version I have noticed that there has been an update to it in the new version18:14
cyphaHow can I figure out what the correct keyboard layout is for me?18:15
auronandacePhrogz: i've never known ssh to work through usb18:15
Levende does apt have a feature to install packages to a seperate, isolated root filesystem?  let's say I have a directory tree in /diskless  , I know with portage I can go "emerge --root/diskless" and it will install packages to this root FS... can I do the same with apt?  And no, chrooting would not work because that would require the package manager to be configured in /diskless18:16
Phrogzauronandace: Thanks. I can find plenty of Google hits on ssh'ing through the USB to iPhones, but nothing for other OS.18:16
ImDoThi guys, is this the right channel to ask tech questions ?18:17
vafied_ImDoT: try18:17
auronandacePhrogz: i'd have thought it would be detected as an external storage drive when connected via usb18:17
erosswhat happened to the drivers that have my brother HL2070N printer messed up? I try to print and all I get is paper feed out constantly.18:17
neil_mImDoT either you'll get an answer, you wont get an answer or you'll get someone bitching about it being offtopic18:18
ImDoTok.... I want to setup multiscreen on my notebook here , displayport is attached but I cant get it to show anything (11.04, sandybridge). very frustrating18:18
BigMaoThis is a friendlier channel than most though.  :)18:18
neil_m:)18:18
vafied_ImDoT: what kind of video card ?18:19
ImDoTintel hd300018:19
BigMaoImDoT, the first thing I would do is check whether you have your graphics driver installed18:19
usr13eross: What did you do?18:19
usr13Distribution upgrade?18:19
s11_hi my laptop bios screen disappeared but I can still boot into ubuntu + windows via grub (knowing where they are on th elist frommemory :)18:19
auronandaceeross: out of ink?18:20
ImDoTthe card seems to bve installed, I used that bumblebee project to get it to work, evrything seemed alright, it just doenst see the external screen somehow18:20
s11_laptop bios screen disappeared atix1270 video with dual screen18:20
LevendeBigMao, yes, though the only problem is everyone is rather dumbed down after long exposure to a distro that requires little knowledge... so it's difficult getting technical questions answered in here18:20
h00kLevende: if you're having issues getting questions answered in here, there's also the forums, askubuntu, and local community mailinglists18:20
BigMaoLevende, yeah, that is correct, this channel is a bit less technical18:20
vafied_ImDoT: you don't have an extra configuration interface for that video card ?18:21
BigMaoImDoT, do you know if the Intel HD Graphics driver has any kind of configuration utility that generates an xorg.conf file?18:21
erossupgraded to 11.1018:21
BigMaoIf there is no configuration interface then you would have to edit xorg.conf manually.18:21
erossanother laptop wireless - same effect18:21
erossand wired into router with pc18:22
ImDoTwell arand, and the guis for that but they all say the external port is "deactivated". Now i try to find way to activate that18:22
oCeaneross: Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released (still beta). Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion18:22
mang0Is there a way to get rid of the login keyring stuff at startup? I'm the only user of my computer, don't want to put in my password every time. And are there any small/light free screen recorders (making tutorials etc) that are any good? for linux, obv.18:22
erosserr i mean 11.04, whatever the latest stable non-LTS is18:23
usr13eross: lsb_release -a18:23
goldenucfI have a monitor that seems to have lost its EDID information... I have another of the same so I was able to get a copy of it, but how do I flash it to the problem monitor in ubuntu?18:24
Fuchsgoldenucf: what driver? For nvidia it's a config option18:24
goldenucfyes, its nvidia... to flash it back to the hardware?18:25
Fuchsthat I don't know, but:18:25
grobda24Hello. How do I allow a user to use the framebuffer without permissions error ?18:25
tsaknorrisi wanna know how iphone mounts itself? i have now connected the iphone to laptop, but i can't find its mount point?18:25
MrElendiggoldenucf: you are using a vga cable I asume?18:25
xrdodrxmang0, yes and yes. Run "seahorse" from the command line and set your key password to be blank. As far as screen recorders go, you can do that within VLC or you can install the package gtk-recordmydesktop18:26
Fuchsgoldenucf: Option "CustomEDID" "string"   << this, syntax in more detail: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/260.19.12/README/xconfigoptions.html18:26
goldenucfdvi18:26
Fuchsgoldenucf: make sure that the cable is fully connected and there are no adapters or such18:26
MrElendiggoldenucf: add the users to whatever group owns /dev/fb018:26
MrElendiger.. grobda24 ^18:26
tsaknorrisi can see all the iphone files on nautilus, but i wanna use console18:26
mang0xrdodrx: Great, thanks. And I'll have a look about vlc as I have that already. Thankyou.18:27
christofertsaknorris: have you checked /media/?18:27
GRMrGeckoHello, we are having problems with ubuntu freezing. I am told that you can switch between work spaces, but not windows or applications.18:27
tsaknorrischristofer, yes i have and also /mnt18:27
BigMaoImDoT, you can check to see if the drivers are loaded in your dmesg.  Otherwise I would explore the configuration GUI some more or go to google, since i'm not familiar with that graphics adapter18:27
GRMrGeckoI am using the prelease updates so maybe downgrading would help?18:27
goldenucfFuchs, that would get the nvidia driver to use it.. is there a program like powerstrip for windows that can actually upload it back to the monitor?18:27
anuraghi i have some problem relate with establishing connection betn gcc compiler and mysql18:27
anuragpls help me18:28
tsaknorrissudo fdisk -l doesnt work or plain mount command18:28
h00kGRMrGecko: Head over to #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric Ocelot support :)18:28
Fuchsgoldenucf: I don't know any, no18:28
h00kGRMrGecko: /join #ubuntu+118:28
tsaknorriswell they work but they cant show me the iphone mount18:28
mang0xrdodrx: Which pass do I need to change? I can only see my internet passes; forums etc18:28
Jahcrosexit18:29
Jahcrosexit18:29
anuragERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)18:29
anuragERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)18:29
ImDoTBigmao, thx I will give it a try18:29
christofertsaknorris: hmm, maybe a long shot, but if you right-click in the iphone folder in nautilus and choose properties, what does it say under location?18:29
GRMrGeckoh00k: This is not the beta of 1218:29
GRMrGeckothis is 1118:29
scorinitronJordan_U, Thanks for the help yesterday I figured out what was wrong your awesome!!18:29
vafied_offtopic groove salad radio station is a great station18:30
tsaknorris[ 7675.705455] usb 2-1.6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8  <--- how to see that address18:30
GRMrGeckowait18:30
GRMrGeckohold on18:30
GRMrGeckolet me check18:30
h00kGRMrGecko: are you on 11.04, or 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot?18:30
scorinitron???Their's an 11.10??18:30
h00kGRMrGecko: lsb_release -r  <-- do this in a terminal18:30
scorinitronWHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?18:30
anuraghow i connect mysql,when i am trying this error will occur ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)18:30
h00kscorinitron: there will be as of tomorrow18:31
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scorinitronSWEET!18:31
scorinitronh00k, Wait is it worth the update?18:31
tsaknorrischristofer, well there is afc://cbb0c2a5eb3df99d41b46ec9861731048f07a1f1/18:31
GRMrGeckoh00k: 11.0418:31
vafied_scorinitron: tomorrow18:31
anuragcan anyone solve my problem18:32
vafied_anurag: be sure that you have installed both server and client18:32
anuragya18:32
GRMrGeckoI enabled the pre-release repository to update because we were having issues with the wifi crashing the network and thought that'll fix it.18:32
GRMrGeckoI ended up turning off wifi18:32
GRMrGeckoand that fixed that18:32
anuragno ithink it right18:33
GRMrGeckohowever I am still using the pre-release.18:33
vafied_anurag: try to star session using root linux user18:33
anuraghow18:33
vafied_sudo passwd and give a password to sudo18:33
vafied_then su -18:33
GRMrGeckoand it is freezing.18:33
vafied_and then try again to connect to mysql18:33
scorinitronis the update worth it?18:33
oCeanvafied_: don't suggest how to enable a root password in this channel please18:34
tsaknorrisi also want to know how to see that folder what i made to iphone, but first this console issue (how to see iphone mount point)18:34
sdasdHi guys, im running the linux-image-2.6.32-29-scst (Debian 10.04) and I have issues inserting the arcmsr module, it states "FATAL: Error inserting arcmsr (/lib/modules/2.6.32-29-server/extra/arcmsr.ko): Invalid module format". I've downloaded the linux-headers-scst (which basically is the 2.6.32.29-server generic + scst). The output of the building of the module can be read here : http://past18:34
sdasdebin.com/JCkBE3A2. Any Pointers/tips :)?18:34
h00kscorinitron: you can ask questions/find out in #ubuntu+1 if you'd like18:34
vafied_anurag: dont do that u_U18:34
vafied_oCean: ok ok18:34
GRMrGeckothere is 19 packages available to upgrade18:34
GRMrGeckomaybe if I upgrade it'll fix these issues?18:34
anuragthen18:34
anuragi have18:34
anuragdone18:34
cyphahow do I turn of gnome's scrollbar?18:35
h00kGRMrGecko: I would suggest that, it's usually a good idea18:35
h00kubottu: enter | anurag18:35
ubottuanurag: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:35
Ebronanurag: kill mysqld, delete the mysqld.sock file and restart the server18:35
vafied_anurag: work ?18:35
edgyHi, how am I suppose to remove an installed kernel, let's say linux-image-3.0.0-11-generic with software center? with synaptics it's very easy18:35
anuraghow ican do can u give me all command18:36
christofertsaknorris: another longshot, but can https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Device_full.2C_.22how_were_I_to_know.3F.22 help in any way?18:36
vafied_what ?18:36
anuragactually ia m new user18:36
anuragi dont know how i can kill mysql18:36
LemonAidDid anyone try out driftnet on natty ? I seem to have the issue of it not doing anything.18:37
Ebronanurak: ps ax|grep mysql -> sudo kill 'pid' (where pid is the mysqld process id listed from the previous command)18:37
vafied_why do you want to kill mysql ?18:37
edgyanurag: /etc/init.d/mysql stop18:37
Ebronvafied_: because he needs to regenerate the .sock file18:37
grobda24MrElendig, YES !!! Worked. First time I've had the framebuffer running with links2 :D18:37
anuragu are given above statement18:37
vafied_ps aux |grep mysql18:37
vafied_then kill -9 all mysql pid's18:38
anuragbut u know it it will not running18:38
vafied_anurag: how are you running mysql ?18:39
tsaknorrischristofer,  thanks man but i think this one is too big cake for me :D  apple is using some weird magic or the moon isnt in right angle for me.18:39
newb_newbDid 11.10 release?18:39
scorinitrontomorrow it will as far as I've been told18:39
newb_newbthank you.18:40
anuragi have just install iam trying to connect it ,but iam unable to connect18:40
anuragcan u give me remote assistance18:40
vafied_yup18:40
xpressanybody can help me a little ? =)18:40
oCeananurag: what is your current ubuntu version?18:40
vafied_xpress: ask18:41
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anurag10.4lts18:41
xpressvadied_: i try to install madwifi18:41
xpressvadied_: couse i have the networking working terible18:41
oCeananurag: how did you install mysql?18:41
xpressvafied_: i try to install madwifi couse mi network is working terible :P18:42
xpressvafied_: but i have a problem ^^18:42
xpressvafied_: so can u help me with that ?18:42
anuragusing internet and command apt-get install18:43
vafied_xpress: sorry mate i don't know about madwifi18:43
xpressvafied_: ok no problem =)18:43
oCeananurag: ok, but what did you apt-get install (there are several mysql packages)18:43
intangirhow can i get multiple monitors to work? im using nvidia video card18:43
tsaknorrischristofer,  its that Apple FIle Connection protocol AFC (i would need to jailbrake it) plah...ok next question how i can see the files what insert to iphone?18:43
lordjjxpress, it would do you better to skip all the intros and pop a question for someone to answer18:43
tsaknorrischristofer, files i have inserted to phone. how i can see them18:44
xpresslordjj: second =)18:45
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christofertsaknorris: it doesnt seem like you can access the drive directly, but if you run the command stated in the help documentation, can you access the folders it outputs?18:45
AbduHello everybody!18:45
anuragcan any-one give remote assistance to solve my problem18:45
xpresslordjj: ioctl: No such device ... so what i do ?18:45
oCeananurag: I'm trying18:45
lonixWhat timezone does ubuntu relases follow ?18:45
anuragok18:46
oCeananurag: please tell what you did to install18:46
anuragmeans18:46
AbduI have installed ubuntu server 11.04 , i want to make a share disk driver to every user on my local network. Most of them have windows18:46
oCeananurag: in terminal, run  dpkg -l |grep mysql   and paste the output of that command at  http://paste.ubuntu.com18:46
xpresscan somebody help me with this (ioctl: No such device)18:46
lordjjxpress, I'm not familiar with mad wifi but can you describe your problem more?18:47
xpress=)18:47
Abdumy question is: How can i make H.D.D share drive to ever one of them where the quota is 3 GB max18:47
vafied_anurag: try this   mysql -uroot -p18:47
xpresslordjj , yes :P i try to put this command ( wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta )18:47
anuragactually i need mysql connectivity to gcc compiler for running mysql and handling databases using c language18:47
tsaknorrischristofer, what command you want to me to run ( ihave looked that url)18:47
oCeananurag: ok, if you're not going to respond to my suggestions, I stop here18:48
tsaknorrischristofer, ifuse?18:48
xpresslordjj: for creating interface18:48
recon69_lapanyone else getting firefox-bin often not unloading18:48
anuragERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)18:48
anuragno sir18:48
anuragplease18:48
anuraghelp me18:48
anuragabove error comes ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)18:49
lordjjxpress, so what does "ifconfig" show?18:49
vafied_anurag:  you did sudo apt-get install mysql- ???????18:49
jcook_5xdataanurag, sound like mysql is not installed or running18:49
vafied_anurag: mysql what ?18:49
anuragwhen i am running ur given command18:49
anuragyes18:49
lonixdoes anyone know ?18:49
anuragi did18:49
xpresslordjj: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  direcciónHW 88:ae:1d:84:5a:a418:49
xpress          ACTIVO DIFUSIÓN MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Métrica:118:49
xpress          Paquetes RX:0 errores:0 perdidos:0 overruns:0 frame:018:49
xpress          Paquetes TX:0 errores:0 perdidos:0 overruns:0 carrier:018:49
xpress          colisiones:0 long.colaTX:100018:49
xpress          Bytes RX:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)18:49
FloodBot1xpress: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:49
vafied_yes but what was the complete name of that mysql ?18:49
anuragi dont know18:50
vafied_anurag:  do you have the tutorial that you used ?18:50
anuragwhere it is18:50
recon69_laplordjj ; that look like a nic without a connection18:50
christofertsaknorris: Seems like you have to use iTunnel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#iTunnel and then use ssh to log in on the device.18:50
jcook_5xdataanurag, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart what the output18:50
xpresslordjj: well ? ^^18:51
lordjjxpress, can't say I'm sure :P18:51
anuragthis is output sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found18:51
mr_danielUpstart executes all jobs in /etc/init at boot-time. The first event emitted is 'startup'. Is there a tools which prints a semi-ordered graph to see which job starts another job? I want to understand the boot order of jobs to debug a small problem-.18:51
xpresslordjj: nothing lets take a shot .. =)18:52
vafied_anurag: if you are in the server press the up arrow key and you will find the complete comand18:52
tsaknorrischristofer,  yeah i can see that, but anyway lets go to that other problem... how i can open let say mp3 file what i move to my phone?18:52
xpresslordjj: i forgot to say that i try to replase ath9k for madwifi ...18:52
anuragi don't understand u18:53
lordjjxpress, did you do wlanconfig ath create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta18:53
vafied_anurag: did you followed a tutorial to install mysql  ?18:53
jcook_5xdataanurag, i don't think you have mysql installed. sudo apt-get install mysql-server18:53
kevinjeethow do i determine which driver is responsible for a device node18:54
vafied_anurag: try as jcook_5xdata says18:54
christofertsaknorris: you have rhytmbox?18:54
recon69_lapkevinjeet: lshw18:55
GRMrGeckoh00k: The only things that upgraded was LibreOffice, ure, uno-libs3, tzdata, and libgksu2-018:55
GRMrGeckoDo you see anything that might cause a problem like that?18:55
tsaknorrischristofer,  yeah i will use it...thank..18:56
Marchitosi have a little problem with kubuntu18:56
Marchitosit don't want to accept the root password18:56
Marchitosi've changed it from level 118:56
kevinjeetrecon69_lap, does this include leds and such?18:56
Marchitoskonsole recognizes it18:56
kevinjeetrecon69_lap, and backlights?18:56
Marchitosgui application no ( like packagekit)18:57
aluchkois there an easy way to add your own packages to your home directory?18:57
recon69_lapkevinjeet; you mean for the lights in your box ? dough it.18:58
aluchkoit looks like I can do dpkg -i --force-not-root --root=$HOME package.deb, and install the packages relative to ~18:58
aluchkobut it still seems like a pain to track and download the proper package, isn't there something just down download the package to my home dir? I supposed I'll need to apt-get source and rebuild it but I was hoping for an easier way18:59
LytesOfDawnGuys18:59
LytesOfDawnI need help18:59
LytesOfDawnI'm trying to install a new desktop enviroment18:59
LytesOfDawnSo how do I get rid of my old one?19:00
xpresslordjj: no .. how should i do that :)19:00
nyvakenGuys, which one do you prefer. irssi or XChat?19:00
LytesOfDawnI have all the packags for the new desktop enviroment19:00
crud_hello its me crud ball19:00
LytesOfDawnso how do I get rid of my old one/19:00
recon69_lapLytesOfDawn: depends how you install, normally you just format over the old one19:00
LytesOfDawnwell yeah19:00
LytesOfDawnI found all the packages19:00
kevinjeetrecon69_lap, dough it? a) my laptop's screen brightness wont change... even writing to /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video*/brightness19:00
Jordan_Uscorinitron: You're welcome.19:00
LytesOfDawnbut I cant install them in terminal19:01
LytesOfDawnIt says default = all19:01
lordjjxpress, see the Examples section on the bottom of this page: http://linux.die.net/man/8/wlanconfig19:01
anuragthank u sir its running19:01
LytesOfDawnso how do I install all at once?19:01
anuraggood sir19:01
oCeannyvaken: matter of personal preference, please dont take polls19:01
anuragthank u19:01
LytesOfDawnso what do I do/19:01
kevinjeetrecon69_lap, and b) the keyboard lights19:01
tbruff13hey does anyone know if ibm viavoice can be used in libreoffice19:01
vafied_anurag: for connect use mysql -uroot -p19:01
xpresslordjj: no :D w8 i did it /wlanconfig ath create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta/ but shows me that (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device):P19:01
anurag<vafied can u give me ur email19:02
GRMrGeckohow can I find logs that can help you find this issue and fix it?19:02
recon69_lapkevinjeet have you added the brightness applet to your toolbar19:02
anuragthanks vafied it really works19:03
xpresslordjj : well ?19:04
kevinjeetrecon69_lap, nope, how does one do that?19:04
kevinjeetrecon69_lap, im new to unity19:04
lordjjxpress, ifconfig only shows that u have eth0. Do u have a wifi device connected?19:04
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xpresslordjj: no..19:05
lordjjxpress, isn't that what this's all about... wifi...19:05
xpresslordjj: i look  iwconfig and it shows that there is no eth0 neither lo19:06
lordjjxpress, it's not working because there's no "wifi0" device then19:06
xpresslordjj: so what i do ?19:06
kevinjeetrecon69_lap, i also get $ xbacklight -get19:07
kevinjeetNo outputs have backlight property19:07
phibxrIs there any way to monitor the sync progress in % using Ubuntu One?19:07
lordjjxpress, connect a wifi adapter to use? :P19:07
auronandacexpress: you are trying to use wifi WITHOUT a wifi card?19:07
dmsupermanHow can I configure unity 2d's wall?19:07
RobotBotdo we know if 11.10 will be available at midnight?19:07
xpresslordjj: i am with laptop and it has wifi :P19:07
Atreuswhy si there no option to change the screen brightness while on battery inpower management?19:07
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MonkeyDustRobotBot: midnight depends on the timezone you're in19:08
lordjjxpress, how come its not showing in ifconfig 0o19:08
madmax_xpress: is the wifi adapter built in?19:08
mr_danielWhen I boot my Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, which component does setup my RAID1 configuration? I am curious about this, because I couldn't find a single call to 'mdadm' in the startup-scripts in /etc/init/, which are executed by Upstart. But I know that mdadm is the tool usually used to create and manage RAIDs19:08
nickolasi am having trobles with ugly plymouth using nvidia drivers19:08
RobotBotI'm in eastern MonkeyDust19:08
mr_danielIs it maybe possible that the Kernel creates and loade the RAIDs?19:08
xpressmadmax_ yes..19:08
nickolasi use jockey to install the latest drivers from x-swat19:09
tbruff13 19:09
nickolasthen i use a script called "fixplymouth-natty" to fix plymouth and grub screens19:09
mr_danielI want to understand how RAIDs are setup in Linux, so I can quickly repair my system if anythin bad happens. And understand the boot-process is one port of this19:09
mr_daniels/post/part19:09
dmsupermanHow can I configure unity 2d?19:09
nickolasproblem is, it eventually stops booting, hanging at the Kubuntu screen with five white dots19:10
cyphaanyone using xterm?19:10
madmax_xpress: what make/model pc?19:11
xpressmadmax_: packard bell19:11
lordjjxpress, what does iwconfig wlan0 give?19:11
madmax_xpress: model number?19:13
jjuniorcan anynone help me with nvidia proprietary and plymouth on ubuntu 11.04?19:13
cyphawill this work in ubuntu? http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2008/05/how-to-paste-in-cygwin-bash-using-ctrl/19:15
libscout__is there a way to make GRUB automatically load a selection on reboot?19:15
asterfishquestion. if i am running off a live cd, is it possible to eject the live cd, pop in a blank disc and burn to it?19:15
kevinjeetxbacklight says no outputs have the backlight property.... is that a driver issue19:15
AlReece45mr_daniel: Upstart needs the root filesystem mounted before it runs. If your root filesystem is managed by mdadm, the scripts to mount it will be under /usr/share/initramfs-tools (these are used to generate the initramfs that's used by your system). Otherwise, it seems to use the classic sysd format, so you should see it in /etc/rc?.d/*mdadm*19:15
madmax_asterfish: if you have loaded the whole thing into ram at boot19:15
AlReece45mr_daniel: I don't use mdadm, but it does the same thing for LVM19:16
* Companion devours mcveat19:16
scorinitronI'm trying to get Tor installed and running properly but it's driving me insane19:17
kevinjeetscorinitron, ive always just used tor browser bundle19:17
scorinitronHow do you get it installed19:18
oCean!tor | scorinitron19:18
ubottuscorinitron: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl19:18
Surkow|laptophmm, guys the proper place to go for wireless issues?19:18
kevinjeetscorinitron, https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en19:19
scorinitronkevinjeet, so how would I go about trying to install it...19:19
madmax_Surkow|laptop: what is your issue19:20
kevinjeetscorinitron, i just sent u a link... theres no install, just download and extract19:20
scorinitronKevinjeet, thanks man...19:20
Surkow|laptopmadmax_, since three weeks I can no longer make use of my wireless internet. Ethernet works fine. Wireless connects fine with at least four networks. In Windows and with a bootable ubuntu usb live disk internet works without hassles19:21
Surkow|laptopbut I'm not planning on reinstalling my OS during exam time19:21
Surkow|laptopI properly receive an IP via dhcp19:22
madmax_Surkow|laptop: are you using a network manager to connect, or the cli?19:22
Surkow|laptopbut I can't ping19:22
Surkow|laptopnetwork manager19:22
Surkow|laptopso, no network issues19:22
Surkow|laptopjust a problem with network manager19:22
Surkow|laptopand no hardware issues19:22
madmax_can you ping your gateway ip?19:23
Surkow|laptophmm19:23
Surkow|laptopI'm part of two networks19:23
Surkow|laptophow can I ping the second network?19:23
BattlecatHello. I was wondering if there is a real advantage to using Ubuntu 64 bit version over the 32 bit version. I was just given a desktop Dell with an AMD 64 in it.19:23
madmax_Surkow|laptop: can you explain more, 2 networks?19:24
Surkow|laptopa simple sweex router for ethernet19:24
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Surkow|laptopconnected to my own cable modem19:24
Surkow|laptopand my housemates access point19:24
Surkow|laptophe has his own cable connection19:25
madmax_Surkow|laptop: so you are cabled to one, and trying to wifi to the other?19:25
Surkow|laptopyes19:25
Surkow|laptopit has worked fine since forever19:25
Surkow|laptopI can just remove the ethernet connection19:25
MrTAToadHello!19:26
Surkow|laptopand I can still use internet normally19:26
GRMrGecko can this error cause everything to freeze except for the work space switcher? http://pastebin.com/6NTwLEfa19:26
recon69_lapBattlecat: think the biggest consideration is memory, over 4gb and definitely go 64bit19:26
dmsupermanHow can I configure unity 2d?19:26
MrTAToadHow long does it take to get an application reviewed in Ubuntu One ?19:26
Patriot7912How do i make samba part of the domain?19:26
Surkow|laptopsimply said madmax_ - I can connect to any wireless network, receive an IP19:26
Surkow|laptop(or maybe I'm wrong about that)19:26
Surkow|laptopand still not ping any website19:27
madmax_Surkow|laptop: are you using the computer to chat now?19:27
Surkow|laptopyes19:27
Surkow|laptopfrom trying to kill nm-applet to using some ubuntu script to check for connection issues19:28
Surkow|laptopit seems it should work fine19:28
Surkow|laptopbut no packages are transmitted19:28
Surkow|laptopaside form the communication between the router and my wireless card19:28
madmax_Surkow|laptop: usually, when I plug in my network cable, the ethernet takes over, changing the routing table.19:28
Surkow|laptopand it has always worked for over 3.5 years19:28
vafied_any user of a laptop with docking port ?19:30
madmax_Surkow|laptop: what ip address does your wifi get?19:30
reachingperfectiis ubuntu releasing on 13 oct ober or not ?19:30
Patriot7912How do you make samba a member of a domain19:30
Surkow192.168.1.102, madmax_19:30
BattlecatIs there any way to tell if a USB Wireless thumb will work with the 64 bit ubuntu 11.04 or higher?19:30
Surkowturned on my desktop19:30
madmax_Surkow|laptop: and your eth19:30
madmax_?19:30
Surkow192.168.2.119:30
Surkowtwo different networks19:30
crash1hdhmm I have a drive mounted as fat16 EFI and when I try to do sudo chown root:root /media/EFI I get Operation not permited?19:31
Surkowit currently uses ethernet, I'll pull the plug to ping hte gateway19:31
madmax_Surkow|laptop: what does the routing table look like?19:31
vafied_any user of a laptop with docking port ?19:32
Surkow|laptopno, but I've had to support my share of windows users with docking ports19:32
Surkow|laptop;)19:32
vafied_Surkow|laptop: nice but i am having problems when docking and undocking on linux19:33
Surkow|laptopmadmax_, did you receive the query?19:33
Surkow|laptopvafied_, could have been a hardware issue19:34
Surkow|laptop:)19:34
vafied_Surkow|laptop: working as support or sys admin ?19:34
Surkow|laptopboth19:34
Surkow|laptopwell19:34
Surkow|laptopthat was some time ago19:34
vafied_Surkow|laptop:  thin is something about gnome because i can do that using kde with no problem19:34
madmax_Surkow|laptop: yes, try without the cable in, but disconnect and reconnect to the wifi after pulling the cable19:34
dmsupermanHow can I configure unity 2d?19:34
Atreuswhy am i unable to change the screen birghtness percentage while on battery power though the power management?19:34
roddHi19:35
vafied_Hi19:35
roddI have ubuntu 11 on a sony vaio laptop and am having trouble setting the screen brightness19:35
jason_Question - what exactly does this refer to? ubuntu-ltsp01 dhcpd: DHCPNAK on 192.168.100.20 to 00:0a:95:81:74:17 via eth0. It's looping continually in my syslog.19:35
rodddoes anyone have any idea of how can I overcome this?19:35
Surkow|laptopvafied_:what goes wrong exactly?19:35
Surkow|laptopmadmax_, same thing19:35
roddim getting blind here19:35
roddso brighty19:35
vafied_screen goes black but everything still working19:36
Surkow|laptopor was I too fast?19:36
Surkow|laptophmm19:36
madmax_Surkow|laptop: did the routing table change?19:36
Surkow|laptopgnome switches to the most recently attached monitor19:36
Surkow|laptopsame thing happens with my kvm switch19:36
Surkow|laptopno, madmax_19:36
vafied_Surkow|laptop: i can make everything works fine if i restart x server but that kill my session19:36
gleydsonhello someone can help  me?19:36
gleydsoni've a simple question19:37
vafied_gleydson: ask19:37
Surkow|laptopvafied_, that's actually a common problem for me19:37
madmax_Surkow|laptop: if the routing table didn't change, then that is why you cannot ping/connect19:37
Surkow|laptophmmm19:37
gleydsoni want to use my webcam with windows users but when i connect they dnt see nothing19:37
vafied_Surkow|laptop: i tried using a script that changes betwen to x conf files19:37
gleydsoni've ubuntu 10.0419:37
usr13gleydson: What application?19:37
gleydsonemesene19:38
madmax_Surkow|laptop: check the nm, make sure things are set to auto, and no manual stuff is set19:38
gleydsonbut i've tried with amsn too and dnt work19:38
gleydsonhas any solution?19:38
reachingperfectiwhen is ubuntu 11.10 releasing ?19:38
vafied_reachingperfecti: tomorrow19:38
Surkow|laptopmadmax_, everything is correct19:38
Surkow|laptopnothing has changed since the wireless stopped working19:39
Surkow|laptopI'm running out of ideas19:39
recon69_lapgleydson: i take it your camera works fine when you test it locally19:39
auronandacereachingperfecti: read the topic19:39
Surkow|laptopwhat can stop the routing table from updating?19:39
gleydsonyes19:39
gleydsoni test with cheese too and works fine19:39
SetiAmonis there a exact time when 11.10 will be released will it be released after midnight or what19:39
vafied_Surkow|laptop:  whats the problem with madmax_ ?19:40
Surkow|laptopI have the issue ;)19:40
Surkow|laptopsome routing table issues. Wifi connects, but I can't ping19:40
Surkow|laptopexternal sites19:40
usr13SetiAmon: They release it when they release it.19:40
usr13Surkow|laptop: route -n   #See if it is your router's IP.19:41
madmax_vafied_: he is using networkmanager to connect to 2 networks, a cabled and a wifi. 2  different subnets.  when he unpluges the cable, and tries to just connect wifi, the routing table does not change19:41
gleydsonsomeone has any idea or a alternative?19:41
usr13Surkow|laptop: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #See if you have valid nameserver, (probably your routers IP will be first because it has caching nameserver).19:41
Surkow|laptophmm, let me check19:42
gleydsonto sugest me19:42
recon69_lapgleydson: skype?19:42
usr13Surkow|laptop: Can you ping the router?19:42
vafied_madmax_: gonna sound silly but did you try dhclient ?19:42
Surkow|laptopnameserver 192.168.2.119:42
Surkow|laptopnameserver 192.168.1.119:42
Surkow|laptopnameserver 62.133.126.2819:42
gleydsonno one online xD19:42
Surkow|laptopseems like all the networks I connected to19:42
usr13Surkow|laptop: What is your router's IP?19:43
Surkow|laptop2.119:43
Surkow|laptopthe top one19:43
gleydsonbut on my computer works fine19:43
usr13Surkow|laptop: can you ping 2.1?19:43
Surkow|laptopyes19:43
madmax_vafied_: I have not had him try that ye19:43
usr13Surkow|laptop: route -n   #See if it is your router's IP.19:43
Surkow|laptopyes19:43
usr13Surkow|laptop: host av.com19:43
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Surkow|laptopav.com?19:44
vafied_madmax_:  but he wants some specific configurations instead of the dhcp server ones ?19:44
usr13Surkow|laptop: host av.com19:44
Surkow|laptopah19:44
usr13Does it resolv?19:44
Surkow|laptopyes19:44
Surkow|laptopbut I'm chatting right now19:44
Surkow|laptop:P19:44
usr13Ok good.19:44
Surkow|laptopso ethernet works19:44
Surkow|laptopI logged in with a second computer19:44
Surkow|laptop(without the laptop)19:45
usr13Surkow|laptop: Well, you have to actually work on the computer that is broken before you can hope to fix it.19:45
Surkow|laptopjust so I can unplug the ethernet cable from time to time to test19:45
vafied_offtopic really groove salad is a great radio station19:45
madmax_vafied_: he wants to switch between cabled and wifi, and it stuck with the routing for the cable19:45
h00kvafied_: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatter19:45
Companionh00k, there is an app for that19:46
vafied_hooch: ok ok but don't mind U_U19:46
Surkow|laptophttp://pastebin.com/BU24iw8m19:46
Surkow|laptopoutput of host av19:46
Surkow|laptopso that works19:46
MacGyverNLI want to somehow fully restart the USB subsystem of a machine, however, usbcore on ubuntu is a kernel builtin rather than a module, so rmmod usbcore is not going to cut it. Is there any other way to do this?19:46
vafied_h00k: ok ok but don't mind U_U19:46
Companionwtf 2 h00k's on different servers? o.019:46
ActionParsnipMacGyverNL: what sort of usb device is it?19:46
usr13Surkow|laptop: If that is from the computer you are working on, looks like you are good to go.  If it is not, it is irelevant.19:47
Surkow|laptopyes, it's the laptop that is troubled19:47
h00kCompanion: no, one server. multiple channels19:47
Surkow|laptopbut the moment I disconnect my ethernet19:47
Surkow|laptopand switch to wireless19:47
Surkow|laptopany wireless network19:47
usr13*irrelevant19:47
Surkow|laptopat work, university, family19:47
Surkow|laptopor at home19:47
MacGyverNLActionParsnip: No device. The entire usb subsystem. As in, the usbcore module. But in Ubuntu it's not a module.19:47
Surkow|laptopI connect properly, but can't use internet19:47
Companionh00k, no one dude @ Quakenet asked me a question about android and linux and typed h0<tab> here and send the message to the wrong guy :')19:48
auronandace!enter | Surkow|laptop19:48
ubottuSurkow|laptop: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:48
h00kSurkow|laptop: please keep your things on one line, it makes it easier to follow19:48
ActionParsnipMacGyverNL: true but if you remove then reload the driver for the usb device specifically it may work19:48
h00kCompanion: ah, different guy. I claim he's stealing my name, or something.19:48
Companionlol h00k19:48
MacGyverNLActionParsnip: I tried this, removing usbserial and pl2303.19:48
MacGyverNLNo dice.19:48
Surkow|laptophmm, I guess that's only logical in a busy channel as this. But I can take a hint.19:48
usr13Surkow|laptop: iwconfig   #Will tell you information about the wireless device and it's status.  Otherwise, use the network-manager to see what you can or can't connect to in the way of WiFi APs.19:49
MacGyverNLActionParsnip: Maybe I'm missing a module though. The device is a towitoko usb smart card reader, under ubuntu 10.04.19:49
MacGyverNLIt is detected the first time after boot.19:49
madmax_urs13: he connects, the routing table does not change19:50
MacGyverNLThen, if I unplug it, it is subsequently not handled correctly anymore.19:50
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ActionParsnipMacGyverNL: run: lsmod    see if anything jumps out19:50
vafied_Surkow|laptop: did you tried a dhclient  ?19:50
Surkow|laptopusr13, I can connect. http://pastebin.com/nQ7miYDX19:51
Surkowhmmm19:53
usr13Surkow|laptop: Is it working?  host av.com19:55
usr13Surkow: if not,  try    dhclient wlan019:56
usr13Surkow: if not,  try   sudo dhclient wlan019:56
Surkowusr13, it seems to do something19:57
Surkowdhclient did make it work...but rather strange19:58
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xpresscan anybody help me a little =) ?19:58
madmax_Surkow: did the routing table change?19:58
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Surkowyes it did19:58
GNU\colossusdoes upstart in ubuntu 10.04 still honor /etc/rc.local?19:58
mang0I'm trying to screen record with ffmpeg, but am failing badly...anyone know how to do this? Need video and sound. Thanks.19:59
crash1hdok I removed udisks from my system and downloaded the tar from an older version how do I install it?19:59
Surkowbut only after forcefully using sudo dhclient and waiting for a bit and disconnecting the cable. I'll link the resulting table19:59
mang0!ask | xpress19:59
ubottuxpress: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:59
Jordan_UGNU\colossus: Yes.19:59
ActionParsnipGNU\colossus: yes20:00
ActionParsnipGNU\colossus: add stuff above the exit 0 line and it will run as root (unless you add su goodness)20:00
GNU\colossusyup, I know that. stoooooopid me forgot to set the shellscript I mentioned there eXecutable though ;)20:01
jon__i recently installed ndiswrapper and my wireless device but when running iwconfig i cant see my device and when i run modprobe ndiswrapper it gives me an error that say FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found how do i fix this lol20:01
ActionParsnipGNU\colossus: d'oh ;)20:01
xpressubottu: thanks i didn't know =)20:02
ubottuxpress: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:02
xpress:D20:02
Surkowmadmax_, usr13 http://pastebin.com/wgjFvUFT20:02
bucaneiroubottu: you look smart20:03
ubottubucaneiro: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:03
madmax_Surkow|laptop: what is in /etc/network/interfaces20:04
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Surkowauto lo, and then something about ethernet20:04
Surkowlet me check20:04
xpressso .. i was trying to install madwifi but i have this problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) when i try to put (xpress@xpress:~$ wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta) .. can anybody helps =)20:04
Surkowmadmax_, auto lo, iface lo inet loopback20:05
madmax_Surkow: and in network manager, is everything for eth0 set to auto? also, when was the last time it was rebooted?20:06
bucaneiroclaro.net.br ? i know this guy20:06
undecimDoes anyone know of a command that can pad a text file with spaces to a certain width?20:06
brentwHi there. I'm using 11.04 and have started using the AWM dock. I'm trying to remove the main gnome panel, but I've not having any luck.20:06
sockethello, just install ubuntu server, during the installation i did not install any specific service. does it come with apache installed?20:06
undecimsocket: No, you will have to install apache yourself if you want it20:07
jribsocket: not if you did not ask for it20:07
MAREK_BENC_NetBbrentw: You mean the Thick ubuntu bar on the right? I don't think you can get rid of that20:07
undecimsocket: sudo apt-get install lamp-server, I think will install apache, php, mysql20:07
SurkowI reboot every day. eth0 has automatic for everything20:07
Isumi4th time just visiting the google home page crashes my X server -_-20:07
Surkowexcept for the mac address it seems20:07
undecim11.04 has unity, right?20:08
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Surkowyes20:08
madmax_Surkow: what if you disable the wired connection20:08
undecimI don't think you can remove the bar with unity...20:08
alexsandr:(20:08
Surkowor simply remove it? I suppose it'll get recreated, right?20:08
undecimNow with ubuntu-classic, you can remove it20:08
Jordan_Ulibscout__: Yes. See the utilities grub-reboot and grub-set-default utilities. You'll need GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub.20:08
madmax_just try to disable20:08
brentwMAREK_BENC_NetB, that's unity. I'm using classic though. which is regular gnome20:08
undecimbrentw: oh, if you're using classic, it's easy20:09
ActionParsnipundecim: Ubuntu comes with Unity2D instead of Ubuntu Classic20:09
Surkowmadmax_, if I disconnect my ethernet the wireless keeps working20:09
socketthis ubuntu box is going to be a local web dev box, running httpd & mysql & php. any reason i should use xttpd/dhttpd/thttpd instead of apache ?20:09
Surkowdhclient did seem to fix it20:09
jribsocket: no20:09
ActionParsnipundecim: in Oneiric, that is20:09
MAREK_BENC_NetBbrentw: Right click and remove panel doesn't work?20:09
libscout__Jordan_U: thanks... i actually figured it out... bad reboot caused boot screen\20:09
SurkowI'll try a reboot. :)20:10
brentwundecim, Where should I be looking? i've removed all settings that specify gnome-panel as the default panel20:10
krisss117hi, i need some app to recover my files from USB drive20:10
madmax_i am wondering why the wired connection still had the route info20:10
undecimbrentw: I forget the key you have to change in gconf, but I wrote about it on my blog a while back... gimme a minute to find it20:10
ActionParsnipkrisss117: foremost works well20:10
jribsocket: wel I'd suggest just using whatever will be used in production20:10
koajaHello.20:10
socketthanks20:10
Jordan_Ulibscout__: You're welcome.20:10
undecimbrentw: http://blog.undecim.org/replace-gnome-panel-with-avant-window-navigator-or-any-other-dock/20:10
ActionParsnipkrisss117: or scalpel. Backups will definately be the best option20:10
brentwundecim, Changing the key doesn't seem to work. I've tried that, gnome-panle still appears. :(20:10
undecimbrentw: Which key?20:11
brentwundecim: the exact one you specify in your blog20:11
krisss117thank's20:11
brentwI've made that change, but the panel still loads20:12
Surkow<madmax_> i am wondering why the wired connection still had the route info20:12
Surkowhmm, I can only add new connections or remove them20:12
undecimbrentw: It must be as ActionParsnip said then. You're using unity2D instead of Gnome20:13
koajaIm trying to mount a Server via SSHFS on my PC. It works and i can see the files from the server. But i cant save edited files! Over a console with ssh it is possible, but i cant edit the files of the mountet path. Has someone a idea?20:13
ActionParsnipundecim: unity2d can run on gnome, it doesn't replace it :)20:14
koajai cant find the problem.20:14
brentwundecim, it's not unity though. it's just a regular gnome-panel20:14
xpress so .. i was trying to install madwifi but i have this problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) when i try to put (xpress@xpress:~$ wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta) .. can anybody helps =)20:14
brentwI can killall it and it just reloads on me20:15
xpress^^20:15
madmax_Surkow: did you reboot?20:17
Surkowmadmax_, usr13 - it seems to perform correctly, even after a reboot. So for some reason the routing table is properly updated now20:17
Surkowyes20:17
Surkowit still works20:17
* alexsandr is listening to "Зачем?" by Ginex feat. Новое Время [, 0]20:17
madmax_nice20:17
undecimbrentw: Well, you could just rename the gnome-panel binary so nothing can find it.20:17
undecimbrentw: You might have to do that every time it's updated, though.20:17
SurkowI suppose the routing table should lose the 2.1 destination in route -n after disconnection eth0?20:17
undecimbrentw: Or actually, just make it non-executable20:17
madmax_Surkow: yes, if in auto, it should update upon a network change20:18
Surkowmadmax_, it loses the 2.120:18
Surkowawesome :D20:18
Surkowplugging it in shows it again. I suppose dhclient does not affect nm directly, right? So this wasn't a network manager problem.20:19
brentwundecim: That might be my only option. I just don't understand what's forcing it to reload. It just seems so strange20:19
madmax_the dhclient was just a one time command. it's what network manager does when you change a setting20:19
Surkowsimply asking for a new dhcp ip with dhclient solved all the issues20:19
Surkowoh20:19
SurkowI  haven' t changed any settings in nm20:20
undecimbrentw: I'll see if I can coerce some functionality out of VirtualBox and mess around with it (I'm on Arch, currently)20:20
madmax_Surkow: for what ever reason, nm was not seeing the change when you unplugged the cable20:20
Surkowmagic, I got it ;)20:20
Surkowthanks for the support guys20:20
madmax_Surkow: or it saw it, and hung up doing something for it20:21
brentwundecim, Cool. I will try a few more things. If I have a result I'll let you know. ;)20:21
Surkowlets see if it still works when I'll use a network with a certificate tomorrow20:21
Malgorathi just installed ubuntu 11.04 and fully updated everything. but the max resolution my system is shwoing is 13xx by 768, my monitor is 1440 x 900 and my video card is an nvidia 210 which supports up to 1920x1080. when i check the additional drivers says its activated but not in use(nvidia driver)20:21
guntbertMalgorath: that might be one of the few cases to reboot you system after changing something20:22
Malgorathguntbert, it asked me to and i did already20:23
mendotaopinions welcome: do you guys think a Ubuntu boot disk will have any more luck than an XP boot disk with a HDD problem that's throwing blue screens of death?20:23
guntbertMalgorath: then I don't know, sorry20:23
opt1musmendota: can't harm to try.20:23
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undecim_mendota: Neither one should be related to HDD problems20:24
Malgorathguntbert, np, thanks for suggesting something :)20:24
mendotaopt1mus, undecim_ yeah, that's mostly what i was thinking20:24
opt1musmendota: I had BSoD with an XP system, and booted Linux no problem.20:24
mendotabut, it'd be nice not to have to completely dismantle this laptop to change out its corrupted/virused? HDD20:25
koajaIm trying to mount a Server via SSHFS on my PC. It works and i can see the files from the server. But i cant save edited files! Over a console with ssh it is possible, but i cant edit the files of the mountet path. Has someone a idea?20:25
opt1musmendota: It was related to me messing with a flashfire program.20:25
undecim_mendota: What problems are you having booting an XP disc?20:25
Malgorathkoaja, permissions are not set right20:25
osu_hello20:25
mendotaundecim_ well, i've got this vaio that's got no boot screen and it hangs after the XP disk tries to run its installation program20:26
koajaMalgorath, how should the be?20:26
mendotaundecim_ i get the feeling there might be more wrong than the HDD, but i'm willing to test a couple of avenues first.20:26
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Surkow|laptopbyes20:26
opt1musmendota: Have you recently installed new RAM or any other changes?20:26
undecim_mendota: At what point does it hang? Before it even loads the install part, or while the installation is running?20:26
tacomasterdoes anyone know how to automate a command when a usb device is plugged in what i have so far is a bash script with the command and a line is the visudo file "%admin ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/iwconfig" but i dont want to have to click every time i plug in the device20:26
ubuntu_k20:27
mendotaundecim_ it gets most of its drivers set up20:27
opt1musoh20:27
koajaMalgorath, the premissions of the server or my local server?20:27
osu_i have problem with ubuntu like this : cant run it from 1st  usb hdd makes my pc into restart loop, cantu run it from second usb hdd black screen nothing happens, cant frun it from pendrive, cant get good vga driver i have splitted screen made from bars hard to explain, any suggestions ?20:27
mendotaundecim_ and then it stops with an error screen20:27
opt1musmendota: code?20:27
mendotaundecim_ claims i should run chkdsk on the hdd20:27
Polahtacomaster, look up udev rules20:27
Malgorathkoaja, could be either20:27
mendotaundecim_ let's see...should be in my search history...20:27
undecim_mendota: Yeah, that sounds like a hardware issue20:27
glassresistorneed help from someone outside the US with firebug/web console installed, will take 2sec20:28
osu_so them will someone help ? :)20:28
osu_then*20:28
mendotaundecim_ it's a stop code: "stop 0x0000007b"20:28
tacomasterPolah: ok ty20:28
guntbertglassresistor: that seem hardly like an ubuntu support question?20:28
guntbert*seems20:29
osu_no one will help newbie like me ? :(20:29
undecim_mendota: Yeah. See if the Ubuntu CD gets anywhere20:29
guntbert!please | osu_20:29
ubottuosu_: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude20:29
mendotaundecim_ okay. i hope it works. it's this used/refurbish my dad picked up...so, i'm crossing all my fingers, lol20:29
osu_or maybe is there some linux distro that already is using kvm virtualization and can be launched from pendrive ?20:30
swickhow comes that my /etc/bash_completion.d/ is nearly empty? I've installed aptitude but it does not show up there.20:30
glassresistorguntbert: very off-topic alopogies but don't know of a #outside-the-us-with-console-log20:31
Malgorathhere is my bug report for nvidia activate but not in use, anyone able to help out? http://pastebin.com/n82pVU1x20:31
undecim_mendota: If it doesn't work, then try a new HDD. If that doesn't work, then it's the mobo, and that's generally more expensive than just selling off the working parts of the laptop and buying a newly refurbished one.20:31
mendotaundecim_ okay. that's good to know20:31
guntbertglassresistor: try #ubuntu-offtopic ?20:31
mendotaundecim_ i'm just avoiding the HDD replacement...because it's going to be a pain cracking that case20:31
mendotaundecim_ but there's 4 good gigs of laptop RAM i could salvage :D20:32
undecim_mendota: Usually the HDD is 1-4 screws away... Is sony THAT bad at making things?20:32
koajaMalgorath, how can i detect it?20:32
FuchsMalgorath: invalid EDID20:33
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FuchsMalgorath: either try to get a valid EDID for your monitor, or specifiy the allowed resolutions manually,20:33
mendotaundecim_ well, there's no obvious access20:33
FuchsMalgorath: e.g. with X Server modelines.20:33
mendotaundecim_ like my toshiba has two panels that you just open one screw for the primary/secondary hdd20:33
jribswick: do you have the package "bash-completion" installed?20:34
glassresistorguntbert: thanks, again apologies20:34
undecim_while true; do mv head desk/; mv desk/head ./; done20:35
MalgorathFuchs, ugh haven't done those in many a moon. how would i get a valid edid?20:35
FuchsMalgorath: do you have by chance windows on that machine?20:35
Fuchsfor some unknwon reasons the driver there is a bit less picky, and you could use it to dump the EDID to a file, which can be fed to the linux driver with the UseCustomEDID Option20:36
vafied_is there a spanish ubuntu channel ?20:36
Ntemishi20:36
Malgorathfuchs i have the same monitor on another computer with windows 7 if that helps but this box is linux only20:36
Ntemisi need your expert help on a gbit lan firmware upgrade for a server eq20:36
osu_my pc wont run ubuntu why ? i get black screen, split junk screen,20:36
swickjrib: no.20:36
Ntemisis a script from hp than updates the firmware on my nic but ubuntu is not supported20:37
Fuchsoh, Malgorath, wait20:37
xpresssomebody can fix that wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device ?20:37
FuchsMalgorath: you set this resolution by yourself in the xorg.conf20:37
jribswick: you probably want it :)20:37
NtemisRed HAt or Suse20:37
FuchsMalgorath: Option         "metamodes" "1360x768 +0+0"  <<20:37
Ntemiswill it work on my server?20:37
Malgorathwith nvidia settings20:37
opt1musosu_: Are you currently running anything that does work?20:37
MalgorathFuchs, i used the nvidia settings but that was the highest it would go20:37
osu_windows ?20:37
swickjrib: yeah, thats it. forgot to logout and in again. thanks20:37
madmax_xpress: can you show me the output of iwconfig20:38
xpressmadmax_: second20:38
Ntemishere is the link of it20:38
Ntemishttp://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=329290&prodSeriesId=3811480&swItem=MTX-7d1cb598f6c747eeb02ccdd759&prodNameId=3811481&swEnvOID=4006&swLang=8&taskId=135&mode=320:38
opt1musosu_: is it only via usb that you've tried running ubuntu? Or have you tried via CD/DVD or perhaps different distros?20:38
osu_its hard to explain i get or black screen with this symbol _ and mouse cursor sometimes or i get really junky screen that looks like 2 desktops that are cut to straps20:38
osu_when i try to run from cd i get reboot loop20:39
Ntemisand the executable is: CP014347.scexe20:39
Ntemiswill it work or i will destroy my nic?20:39
osu_when i try to run from pendrive i get that junk screes if its from hdd i get black screen really strange20:39
FuchsMalgorath: then that might be due to the driver not be able to read the EDID20:39
osu_it is as it cant recognize my vga20:39
xpressmadmax_: lo        no wireless extensions.20:39
xpresseth0      no wireless extensions.20:39
xpresswlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"THOMSON"20:39
xpress          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:1E:69:1D:42:8B20:39
xpress          Bit Rate=48 Mb/s   Tx-Power=16 dBm20:39
xpress          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off20:39
FloodBot1xpress: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:40
opt1musosu_: have you tried another distro, or just ubuntu?20:40
dorkNtemis: i would be surprised if it created compat issues20:40
osu_only ubuntu as it says setting up kvm on it is super easy :)20:40
ActionParsniposu_: what gpu do you use?20:40
LjLxpress: please use the pastebin for pasting20:40
madmax_xpress: you can't paste it into the channel, use http://paste.ubuntu.com20:40
osu_radeon 4850 and intel20:40
osu_i have i7 cpu so it have integrated gpu20:41
MalgorathFuchs, so should i just edit the xorg and add 1440x900?20:41
osu_and 485020:41
xpresssory for that i didnt know =) :P20:41
xpressi have linux from 2 days ^^20:41
Ntemisdork:because it only states rpm distros, i thought it my req an rmp package or something20:41
cables_malohi, when i try and use the 11.04 livedisk it hangs after i load the GUI20:41
ActionParsniposu_: oh, one of those dual gpu hybrid things?20:41
dorkNtemis: it's in a prolient machine?20:42
Ntemisyes20:42
osu_yup20:42
FuchsMalgorath: you probably have to specify a modeline for that20:42
opt1musah.20:42
dorkNtemis: should be fine.20:42
madmax_xpress: we all start some where.  paste the output of iwconfig into http://paste.ubuntu.com20:42
FuchsMalgorath: there are tools that generate them for you20:42
xpresshttp://pastebin.com/S9HmJV7420:42
Malgorathwhat are they called?\20:42
Ntemisdork: really hope so :)20:43
xpressmadmax_: http://pastebin.com/S9HmJV7420:43
ActionParsniposu_: those are nothing but headache20:43
FuchsMalgorath: gtf  is one20:43
ActionParsniposu_: could try the boot option: nomodeset20:43
osu_well its not my fault that intel did put integrated gpu in cpu20:43
opt1musosu_: perhaps a distro less obsolete will give more joy.20:43
osu_well i jsut want kvm virtualization20:43
osu_just*20:43
cables_malowho in here knows what will hang a live session?20:43
osu_hmmm ill try that nomodeset20:44
xpressmadmax_: w8 i go WC ^^20:44
extradessertcables_malo: what is your system specs?20:44
opt1muscables_malo: perhaps oom20:44
madmax_okay, it says that your wifi is associated with "THOMSON"20:44
reisiocables_malo: old hardware, bad burn, power fluctuation20:44
osu_any other suggestion before i reboot pc ? :)20:44
dorkNtemis: IMO you have a greater chance of having a conflict on redhat based systems but that's a an unkind bias opinion :P20:44
cables_maloreisio: puppy linux works perfect20:44
opt1musosu_: try something with later kernel?20:44
cables_maloreisio: what about a boot option for rams or power options?20:45
osu_sorry im quite new into linux thingie20:45
madmax_xpress:are you using a standard ubuntu install with the gnome desktop?20:45
reisiocables_malo: or a BIOS option20:45
osu_i dont know what distro may have newer kernel20:45
reisioosu_: what're you up to?20:45
ActionParsniposu_: disable one of the GPUs if you can20:45
opt1musosu_: ubuntu oneiric, just a stab in the dark really.20:45
ActionParsniposu_: Oneiric has a newer kernel, may help20:45
cables_maloreisio: but which one for Dell Latitude D820?20:46
osu_ok ill try that20:46
reisioyou don't have to change distro to get a newer kernel20:46
madmax_xpress: are you using a standard ubuntu install with the gnome desktop?20:46
tramahow to configure sound chipset alc888 realtek in Ubuntu 11.10?20:46
tramanotebook gx660r20:46
reisiotrama: something not working?20:46
BarkingFish!oneiric | trama20:46
ubottutrama: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+120:46
ActionParsniptrama: ask in #ubuntu+120:46
opt1musreisio: I'm aware of that but osu_ can't initiate an install.20:46
osu_reisio i just want to try kvm virtualization as someone said it support native support for i/o os i tought i will be able to run windoews as guest and use all apps on native gpu20:47
reisioah20:47
reisioto a certain extent I'm sure20:47
xpressmadmax_: sry i said i was going to bayhroom20:47
reisiowhat apps did you have in mind?20:47
osu_well 3dsmax20:47
xpressmadmax_: i am with xubuntu ...20:47
osu_maybe some games20:47
xpressmadmax_: xfce i think but i have and gnom and KDE installed :D20:48
madmax_xpress: okay, show me ifconfig20:48
madmax_xpress: ifconfig -a20:48
tramareisi, sound only works on first boot after installation, then, no longer works, or the speaker or the headset20:48
reisioosu_: and you clared your proc for compatibility already?20:49
reisiotrama: you check alsamixer for muted/low volume channels?20:49
osu_its i7 :) it will work20:49
xpressmadmax_ : http://pastebin.com/kG96As6720:49
tramareisi, yes, but not mut...i checked20:49
tramareisi, I tried reinstalling alsa, added the ALC888 model in alsa-conf, but decided not too ... I looked on forums English, and French en20:49
opt1muspulseaudio may do the trick.20:50
xpressmadmax_: http://pastebin.com/t3g6kNBS20:50
tramareisi, many people have problems with this chipset Realtek ALC888 HD, the sound is very good .. is not hardware issue, because the windows operate normally20:50
reisiotrama: rei[TAB]20:50
osu_ok ill try that nomodeset ill be back if it wont work . Thanks for help and bye guys20:51
cables_maloguys, i have the same laptop as my friend and i have never had a livedisk hang like this. the only difference is that his has 533mhz rams.20:51
reisiocables_malo: try a USB stick instead20:52
madmax_xpress: those to post's show that you are connected to "THOMSON" wifi network with an ip of 192.168.0.13.  Is this what you want to be connected to?20:52
reisiotrama: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=534070 maybe20:52
tramareisi, ?20:52
cables_maloyou think its a cheap CD drive?20:52
xpressmadmax_: yea ...20:52
reisiotrama: type 'r', 'e', then 'i', then hit 'TAB'20:52
reisiocables_malo: never encountered an expensive one...20:52
madmax_xpress: then maybe I am unclear what you are trying to do20:53
cables_maloreisio, scsi 2X circa 1996?20:53
reisiocables_malo: but just the fundamental technology and process behind optical disc drives as we know them is inferior to solid state20:53
cables_malowell puppy is working, so you might be right20:53
cables_maloguess i can try the installer to disk?20:53
cables_malofrom CDR?20:53
xpressmadmax_: i just try to install madwifi .. and i have the problem (http://pastebin.com/t3g6kNBS) i really dont know what to do :/20:53
reisiocables_malo: ?20:53
xpressops...20:53
vafied_any of you know a good sysadmin related book ?20:54
xpressmadmax_:the problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device)20:54
cables_maloif the livesession doesnt work then do you think the install process will do the same thing?20:54
tramareisio, OK...i looking the forum...20:54
xpressreisio: hi ... can u help me now :D ..20:55
cables_maloreisio: i was using the toram option!20:56
steel_hi,just want to ask what size should i give to my /usr ,given that i have given 128 mb to /boot, 30 gb to /,and rest to /home.how much size should i cut from /home to give it to /usr?20:56
reisiocables_malo: ?20:56
cables_maloreisio: i was using the toram option!  ----- running from the rams20:56
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reisiosteel_: unless you mean to make it a different filesystem I wouldn't bother20:57
reisiocables_malo: why were you doing that20:57
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rwwsteel_: You do realize you can just use one partition for everything, right? Splitting it up like that is a headache and runs the risk of you running out on room (especially on /boot, 128MB is tiny).20:57
madmax_xpress: what is the reason for using madwifi if you are connected now?20:57
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cables_maloreisio: i always do that20:57
cables_maloreisio: hangs either way20:57
reisiorww: how much data do you have in /boot/ ?20:58
reisiocables_malo: ...20:58
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xpressmadmax_: when i am connected a times it just stops and i have to exit and enter again to the network .. that happens every 1-2 minutes ..20:58
xpressmadmax_: and it works fine for 2 minutes and again ..20:58
madmax_xpress: show me dmesg |grep ath20:59
steel_rww and reisio , it's just that whenever i switch my distro i loose all my softwares.so i was just thinking creating a separate /usr will save me the trouble20:59
xpressmadmax_: http://pastebin.com/7mWiMW7d20:59
rwwsteel_: No, it'll cause you a lot of pain and package management issues.20:59
scwizard_I tried to sudo chown something20:59
reisiosteel_: stop switching distros, that'll save you the trouble21:00
default_|UIbuntu br?21:00
Andamio_Pizjuanoniversochat.net21:00
reisiosteel_: though it shouldn't be hard to generate a list of non-dep packages you have installed from any distro21:00
default_|help-me in portuguese21:00
reisiosteel_: to be installed on any other distro21:00
reisiodefault_|: #ubuntu-br or -pt21:00
MalgorathFuchs, gtf short for anything?21:00
DETERMINOLOGYIm really thinking about dual booting linux on this pc21:00
default_|thanks21:01
steel_reisio,i'm using natty right now,eventually i have to switch21:01
madmax_xpress: show me lspci21:01
Jordan_Usteel_: /usr can *not* be shared between distros.21:01
reisiosteel_: why's that?21:01
FuchsMalgorath: it's the name of the tool, I have no idea whether it has a meaning21:01
tramareisio, I tried the procedure mentioned in the forum already, but now even lost my hardware that was listed in the sound of ubuntu ...21:01
steel_reisio,its not lts21:01
reisioDETERMINOLOGY: you should determine it ;p21:01
xpressmadmax_: http://pastebin.com/1pGd7GWx21:01
MalgorathFuchs, is it in apt repo or something i'd have to look up?21:02
FuchsMalgorath: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gtf&mode=exactfilename&suite=natty&arch=any21:02
rotflcopter"Take your chance to use this open window..."21:02
reisiosteel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades21:03
DETERMINOLOGYYea most def reisio21:03
reisiosteel_: you don't reinstall in Linux land21:03
reisiothere's no need21:03
DETERMINOLOGYI mean i use a vm with it but its not the way i want it21:03
madmax_xpress: check out this post http://blog.homelinux.org/?p=32721:03
reisioDETERMINOLOGY: yeah, not quite the same21:03
xpressmadmax_: well ?21:03
madmax_xpress: ^^^21:04
steel_oh ok thanks reisio , Jordan_U ,rww21:04
xpressmadmax_: sry i didnt see that u writed something ^^21:04
DETERMINOLOGYreisio whats the best way to partition the drive or let ubuntu do it its self? Cause i might do it tomorrow21:04
xpressmadmax_: i now look21:04
Malgorathfuchs thanks i'm gonna try to restart x now21:04
madmax_xpress: what version of xubuntu?21:04
reisioDETERMINOLOGY: for a desktop?  Just do one big / and ext4 if you don't want to think about it21:05
DETERMINOLOGYYea desktop21:05
extradessertDETERMINOLOGY: are you going to keep the old os?21:06
extradessertotherwse let ubuntu partition itself21:06
xpressmadmax_: the last one21:07
xpressmadmax_: but that is not how to fix the (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) right ?21:08
madmax_xpress: the last one? 11.04, 10.10. 10.04? This will address the connection issues that you are having.  Frequent drop's, etc.21:09
BarkingFishHas ubuntu ever had a version which would install on machines running ARM or StrongARM, like PPC, HP iPAQ, etc?21:09
malgorathwell.. that was... interesting21:10
xpressmadmax_: 11.04 but i am not sure :D21:10
default_|I can use BitchsX in ubuntu 11.421:10
reisioBarkingFish: pretty sure, yeah21:10
reisioBarkingFish: and certainly Debian has21:10
Picidefault_|: No. bitchx was removed from Debian (and thus Ubuntu) a number of releases ago.21:11
malgorathFuchs, perhaps I should figure out where to put that, I tried to replace the line in my xorg.conf but must have borked it up cause it was really wrong21:11
ActionParsnipisn't bitchx no longer developed?21:11
Pici!bitchx | default_|21:11
ubottudefault_|: bitchx (also known as ircii-pana) was dropped from Debian and subsequently Ubuntu (see: http://dy.fi/afb). Consider using irssi or weechat instead.21:11
reisioirssi is better anyways21:11
default_|what similary a Bitchs I can use ?21:11
xpressmadmax_: i reboot =)21:11
BarkingFishreisio, is there any chance there'd still be ISO's of it somewhere?  I'm trying to switch my old HP iPAQ RX1950 over to linux from WM5, and want something I can install from an SD Card, since I have no sync leads for it21:12
Picidefault_|: irssi or weechat21:12
default_|irssi21:12
madmax_xpress: okay21:12
default_|thanks21:12
extradessertdefault_|: irssi21:12
ActionParsnipreisio: better than a dead project, most things are  ;)21:12
ActionParsnippidgin here :)21:12
reisioActionParsnip: you could be right about that :p21:13
reisioBarkingFish: WM5?21:13
BarkingFishwindows mobile 5.0, reisio21:14
crash1hdOK this is bazar, I just loaded LiveUSB 11.04 and the CD stuff works fine But the installed version doesnt21:14
Fuchsmalgorath: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution21:14
reisioBarkingFish: ah, horrors21:14
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ActionParsnipcrash1hd: whats it do / not do?21:15
reisioBarkingFish: http://www.anytux.org/hardware.php?system_id=108121:16
crash1hdActionParsnip, well if I insert a CD or DVD or even just close the Drawer with nothing in it the system locks up21:16
crash1hdActionParsnip, this doesnt happen in 10.10 just 11.0421:16
crash1hdActionParsnip, but I just tried using the liveUSB and it is not crashing with that?21:17
crash1hdActionParsnip, even though its using the same udisks as the one installed21:17
crash1hdversion21:17
reisioBarkingFish: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22linux%20on%22%20%22ipaq%22%20%22rx1950%22 few other leads, too21:17
reisiohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM21:17
ActionParsnipcrash1hd: are you fully updated?21:17
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crash1hdActionParsnip, yes21:18
BarkingFishexcellent, thanks reisio :)21:18
ActionParsnipcrash1hd: so if you never use the optical drive its ok?21:18
crash1hdActionParsnip, it happenes on 2 machines same hardware from fresh install21:19
crash1hdActionParsnip, yes21:19
crash1hdActionParsnip, but the minute I open / close the tray it locksup21:19
ActionParsnipcrash1hd: any bugs reported?21:19
pangolinHow do I rmdir with files?21:19
crash1hdActionParsnip, not that I could find21:19
xpressmadmax_: man you lied to me ? :S21:20
MrKeunerhello, my Intel Corporation 82562V-2 eth card loses connectivity after some random time. I wrote a dirty script that reboots the system after 5minutes of Internet unconnectivity... Is there a way to restart? the eth card instead ?21:20
madmax_xpress: what do you mean?21:20
xpressmadmax_: i mean i restarted and i havesnt got any network21:20
Travis-42is there an alternative to avahi-daemon? It causes performance issues when used with another software I'm using.21:20
xpressmadmax_: i deleated the file21:20
reisioMrKeuner: you might try /etc/init.d/network restart (or whatever) instead21:20
ActionParsnipcrash1hd: I suggest you report one. If you press CTRL+ALT+F1 when the system hangs, does it take you  to cli?21:20
reisioservice something something21:20
atannusHi folks.21:20
xpressmadmax_: i now have network but the OC is bugged21:20
reisioMrKeuner: or check your router21:21
reisioatannus: hi21:21
xpressmadmax_: i cant click to exit from program21:21
MrKeunerreisio, router is the campus router...21:21
madmax_xpress: I don't like being called a liar, when trying to help you. I told you to read the post, and wanted to know what version of xubuntu you had.21:21
xpressmadmax:_ i cant minimize and i dont have desktop picture :P21:21
reisioMrKeuner: nobody else is having the issue?21:21
xpressmadmax_: i did not calle you lier but i just ask .. =)21:21
MrKeunerreisio, nope... by /etc/init.d/network do you mean /etc/init.d/networking?21:22
crash1hdActionParsnip, no it doesnt21:22
madmax_xpress: saying that I lied to you, is calling me a liar21:22
reisioMrKeuner: sounds good21:22
xpressmadmax_: couse there are people who can say something to do for make me shut the f*ck up :D ..21:22
javier_hi! I upgraded to 11.10 beta 2. I believe that with actualizations, it will become the final release the day that it's available. But I'm not finding any actualization any day. Is it normal? I thought everyday there would be some new things to update21:22
xpressmadmax_: i am sry if i insulted you21:22
MrKeunerreisio, do you think rmmod e1000e and insmod e1000e before restarting networking be better?21:23
xpressmadmax_: but now my computer is for the rubbish ,921:23
ActionParsnipcrash1hd: do you have a different optical drive to test?21:23
reisioMrKeuner: I guess you could try it if other things don't work21:23
crash1hdActionParsnip, no sadly (but I did have 2 systems with the exact same specs, but of course the both had it happen)21:23
madmax_xpress: first, what file did you add/remove21:23
atannusI'm trying to install ubuntu on a Toshiba Satellite and I get a RSOD. I have tried Ubuntu server 9.04 and 9.10. Ubuntu Desktop 9.04, 9.10, 10.04, 10.10 and 11.04. All desktop installs (including Debian 5 Desktop) and server install generate a RSOD with  Deboostrap warning excep 10.04 which loads the background and freezes (only mouse responds do movement). I havefound no info on this anywhere... Windows xp, vista and 07 install fine.21:23
reisiopangolin: rm path/to/dir/ -fr21:23
xpressmadmax_: how can i send you picture ?21:24
crash1hdActionParsnip, its a SATA optical drive21:24
atannusIf anyone can clue me in, I'll be forever grateful!21:24
reisiopangolin: what's nice about rmdir is you can use it on dirs and know it will only work if you've already emptied the dir21:24
recon69_lap MrKeuner: you could try ifup ifdown as well21:24
crash1hdActionParsnip, and this no mobo has no IDE connections21:24
ActionParsnipcrash1hd: in BIOS, set the SATA to IDE compatibility mode21:24
ActionParsnipcrash1hd: all drives are IDE ;)21:24
reisioatannus: red screen of death?21:24
madmax_xpress: post it on picassa or something?21:24
MrKeunerrecon69_lap, what does ifup do? assign the IP number?21:24
reisiorecon69_lap: or a different kernel version21:24
xpresscan you accept ?21:24
atannusreisio, yes.21:24
MrKeunerreisio, I am already using -3521:25
nvzI just installed ubuntu 11.04 on this pure intel machine and it seems like it freezes but analyzing the logs says it had gotten my SAK and did kill X, but I cannot get to a tty or anything when it happens. I think it may be the FB crapping out21:25
MrKeuner.3521:25
madmax_xpress: I don't except files from irc chats21:25
xpressmadmax_: can you acsept ?21:25
reisioatannus: I thought that was a Windows thing... you talking about some BIOS thing?21:25
recon69_lapMrKeuner: http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Ifup-ifdown21:25
madmax_xpress: show me cat /etc/issue21:25
xpressmadmax_: how to upload it ?21:25
xpressw821:25
nvzIts onboard Intel GMA 950 so idk.. but the whole X display freezes and I can't do anything but hard shutdown cause the screen stops refreshing even though apparently the kernel is fine21:26
xpressUbuntu 11.04 \n \l21:26
atannusreisio, no... I'm assuming Debootstrap is Debian Bootstrap or something... It happens after the install begins bootstraping/loading. It is a linux/debian/kernel thing... not bios FOR SURE.21:26
reisionvz: when X starts, or randomly afterwards?21:26
xpressmadmax_: Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l21:26
reisioatannus: oh that, right sorry21:26
reisioI thought the point of debootstrap was that it wasn't susceptible to the issues of automated installers21:26
nvzreisio: its like 5min or so roughly I think its semi-random but its not too long after login.21:26
crash1hdActionParsnip, yes but I have them set to AHCI because I have 6 drives connected to the SATA ports as well as the optical and if I set it to IDE then they are not hotswapable or at least some of them are not (but I will give it a try after this new fresh install) and see21:27
xpressmadmax_: or say me how to upload it on internet ..21:27
nvzreisio: right now I am using screen on tty1 with irssi.. thinking about installing ssh so I can at least get in remotely21:27
atannusreisio, I'm no expert, but I generally get around issues with google and docs... not thins though. didnt know debian/ubuntu even had a RSOD! lol21:27
* jaimef ponders qt 4.7 on lucid21:27
madmax_xpress: you'll need an account with someting like picassa or photobucket21:27
atannusI cant rule out hardware, but I'm dismissing it as winxp , vista and 07 install fine.21:28
xpressmadmax_: man i cant do that with my slow internet :/ just acsept it i am not a hacker or something like taht :/21:28
flummy_xpress: http://666kb.com/21:28
atannusI have not tried different distros...21:28
atannusonly debian and ubuntu...21:28
reisioatannus: have you tried using a USB stick?21:29
madmax_xpress: sorry, I will not accept files from IRC21:29
xpressmadmax_: i made it with 666kb.com =)21:29
atannusreisio, no... you're thinking the cd-rom?21:29
xpressw821:29
atannusreisio, the driver, I mean...21:29
reisioatannus: could be21:29
xpressmadmax_: http://666kb.com/i/bxqpazlnoa5f5n276.jpg21:30
flummy_hehe21:30
atannusreisio how come it works for everything else (windows shit?)21:30
reisiothe device, the driver for it, the CDs themselves, how you're burning them, how the BIOS manages it21:30
reisioatannus: probably because the person who assembled the computer did so with only Windows in mind, for starters21:30
reisioatannus: easier to fix after you're installed21:30
atannusreisio, I... honestly don't think I'm burning the cds wrong... They work fine on other machines!21:30
reisioatannus: okay that's one out of a big list I just gave :p21:31
flummy_xpress: is that spanish or portugese or...?=21:31
atannusreisio, lol...21:31
nvz there is nothing really in the logs indicating a problem other than "*ERROR* invalid framebuffer id" in syslog and kern.log from one of the times it hung21:31
xpressspanish21:31
flummy_cool :)21:31
nvzdid it both on the usb stick I installed with and on the install twice21:31
madmax_the missing toolbar controls have nothing to do with the wifi config file in that post21:31
xpress^^21:31
xpressmadmax_: so how i fix it :/21:31
xpressand the desktop missing ..21:32
atannusreisio, damn... it is a toshiba laptop with oem windows vista...21:32
madmax_xpress: what file did you delete?21:32
madmax_xpress: what command did you run21:32
xpressmadmax_: i didnt ..21:32
reisioatannus: just try with a USB stick, it might work21:32
atannusreisio, but I have never ever ever ever had a problem with ubuntu...21:32
reisioatannus: and even if it doesn't work, you know more21:32
atannusreisio, so how do I go about this? I probably have to make a bootable usb, right?21:32
eponais there a command I can use to install a file from a website21:32
flummy_xpress: i really don't know anything about gnome, but it seems you are running gnome (not unity) - i have no idea, but try to start nautilus in that black terminal in the right bottom corner21:32
eponalike a tarball21:32
reisioatannus: yes, you can use unetbootin21:33
reisioatannus: on Linux or Windows21:33
reisioepona: a tarball of what?21:33
xpressi have nautilus ;)21:33
atannusim on linux right now... on another pc21:33
eponaa tarball of django21:33
reisioatannus: k, unetbootin should be in your repos21:33
eponaor some source code21:33
reisioepona: most distros provide django21:33
madmax_xpress: when you came back to the chat, you said you deleted a file21:33
eponaor a text file21:33
nvzme goes back to X with ssh running to wait for the freeze21:33
reisioepona: is there some reason you want to compile it?21:33
flummy_xpress: hmm i thought maybe it's an imitation of windows, where explorer.exe handles the background/desktop :P21:33
xpressaa21:33
madmax_xpress: show me history21:33
eponajust for future reference21:34
atannusreisio, installing as we chat... ;)21:34
eponaIm looking for a command that can install a file from a website21:34
eponaI think subversion can do it21:34
eponawhich I installed21:34
reisioepona: most tarballs come with instructions21:34
xpressmadmax_: i deleted the ath9k.conf21:34
eponabut it gives me some errors21:34
flummy_epona: "install file from website" is a very untechnical description ^^21:34
xpressfrom /etc/modprobe.d/21:34
reisioepona: this is the general process, however: http://www.google.com/search?q=configure%20make%20install21:35
eponayea, I don't know very much how to do it flummy_  :(21:35
flummy_ah!21:35
flummy_xpress: you cant move the windows, can you21:35
flummy_xpress: i think your window manager died21:35
xpressi can21:35
flummy_xpress: try starting compiz in your terminal21:35
eponano, reisio21:35
flummy_oh21:35
flummy_ok21:35
eponaI don't have the file21:35
eponaits on a website21:35
xpressflummy_: i will love you forever21:35
reisioepona: eh? :p21:35
flummy_xpress: what about trying compiz --replace21:35
eponalike something you can click and download21:36
flummy_xpress: i like spanish boys :)21:36
eponabut I can't click it through a terminal21:36
xpressflummy_: :D you fixed it :P21:36
flummy_cool :)21:36
flummy_xpress: the window manager is the component of the X11 windowing system that handles resizing and moving and the so called "decoration" of windows21:37
flummy_decoration of windows are those minimize/resize buttons21:37
xpressbut when i close the terminal my desktop picture disappear again :D ..21:37
flummy_and it seems your window manager died for some reason // this shouldn't happen21:37
flummy_xpress: nohup compiz &21:37
flummy_with the &21:37
flummy_nohup detaches the following command from the terminal21:38
flummy_and & places it in the "background", without being dependent on the console21:38
cwilluflummy_, compiz & disown is prettier :p21:38
crash1hdActionParsnip, ok so I have done a fresh install (pre any updates now) and its working but this is also pre using the asus ati propriatary driver21:38
flummy_evilbass: didn't know about disown21:38
cwillu(doesn't leave the nohup.out file in the current directory)21:38
xpressshows me that ( xpress@xpress:~$ nohup: se ignora la entrada y se añade la salida a «nohup.out» )21:38
madmax_xpress: did you follow the instructions for creating the ath9k.conf for Natty?21:38
flummy_cwillu: tell me more21:38
xpressmadmax_: yes21:38
flummy_is disown in his own package?21:38
cwilluflummy_, no, bash builtin21:39
flummy_hw@hq:~$ apt-cache search disown21:39
flummy_hw@hq:~$21:39
flummy_cwillu: oooooh.21:39
xpressmadmax_: and i didnt had the toolblar on the restart neither internet so i deleted it21:39
crash1hdActionParsnip, the video driver stops me from using unity (which I know is normal) but still wondering21:39
reisioit's a shell built-in21:39
reisionot sure how it applies, though21:39
madmax_xpress: with just options ath9k nohwcrypt=121:39
xpressmadmax_: yes...21:39
flummy_what are plantillas?21:39
flummy_little plants? no?21:39
flummy_hehe21:39
madmax_xpress: and after that, you had no wifi?21:40
flummy_ok i think i can guess the ruler in the plantillas icon21:40
drahstis there any way to make virtbuilder use a specific img file? I created a pre-allocated file to help with i/o, I'd like to have the vm that is created to use it21:41
atannusreisio, you know what sucks? the satellite wont boot from usb...21:44
xpressflummy_: i have the toolblar but my desktop is disappearing21:44
atannusreisio, nm, it does too.21:45
xpressflummy_: and is so strange toolblar .. :/21:45
xpressflummy_: can u enter in my computer with teamviewer or something ?21:45
flummy_xpress: sorry no time21:45
xpressflummy_: ah no problem =)21:45
flummy_xpress: you can try to save your work and kill your X11 (gui, graphical) session21:45
xpressflummy_: how ?21:46
flummy_hm :)21:46
flummy_i think ubuntu disabled the hotkey for that per default21:46
flummy_it used to be ctrl+alt+backspace21:46
flummy_but it's probably disabled to not annoy new users21:46
cwillufluido, plus you can just use the magic sysrq-k21:46
phibxrfluido, who frequently tap that combination for the giggles. ;)21:46
cwillumore reliable anyway, being implemented in the kernel :p21:47
cwillualso, damn tab completion21:47
* cwillu pokes flummy_ with a stick21:47
madmax_xpress: <ctrl>+F2, login, sudo gdm restart21:47
phibxrcwillu, agreed. :D21:47
flummy_^^21:47
cwillumadmax_, why do that, when sysrq-k does it without the extra password?21:47
flummy_*trying hard not to press sysRq k*21:48
atannusreisio, I got the little ubuntu icon with the dots underneath (loading thingy), now it jumped into a black screen and frooze. No mouse, no nothing...21:48
madmax_cwillu: didn't know about that.21:48
xpressmadmax_: man can you please enter somehow in my computer and fix that please :/21:48
recon69_lapthere firefox window shutting down, but staying in memory and stopping you opening firefox again21:49
xpressmadmax_: i will install teamviewer if its nessesary21:49
atannusreisio, when I hit the power buton, it unloads... this is odd.21:49
recon69_laphave to kill firefox process21:50
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madmax_xpress: i am only able to chat at this time.  kids are home and have my attention. i can only give advice in chat21:50
flummy_kids!21:50
atannusreisio, do you think this could be related to the notebook being off a network? it shouldn't matter, should it???21:50
madmax_flummy: yep, 2 kids, single father21:51
flummy_o.O21:51
xpressmadmax_: well no problem =) look what i found when i tryied to put (compiz --replace) .. = ( compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.)21:51
flummy_maybe not important (dont know)21:51
madmax_xpress: i wonder if compiz did not load something properly on your last reboot.  i had a lot of issues with it on my netbook, i wound up turning off the effects21:53
flummy_xpress: if i had time to listen, i would ask "what did you change prior to the disappearance of the window manager (window "decorations", background, etc)21:53
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flummy_xpress: did you try killing your session like madmax_ suggested?21:54
flummy_23:47 < madmax_> xpress: <ctrl>+F2, login, sudo gdm restart21:54
xpressctrl + F2 didnt work21:54
flummy_ic21:54
flummy_xpress: oh21:54
flummy_xpress: try control+alt+F221:54
SolvedI'm trying to use the program 'playonlinux' to play Age Of Empires III, but when I click on Age Of Empires, and then hit play, nothing happens. Any ideas?21:54
flummy_ctrl+F2 really shouldn't work21:54
xpressi tryed apt-get update21:54
flummy_xpress: try control+alt+F221:54
flummy_STOP21:55
madmax_xpress: wait21:55
flummy_remember the following commands before you do that21:55
wolfmitchellLol I'm here on webchat without a desktop enviroment running :D21:55
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xpressstop what ?21:55
flummy_xpress: before you press control+F2, remember the following21:55
madmax_xpress: you need to know the whole command, and how to get back21:55
flummy_because you will switch to a black and white text mode "console"21:55
flummy_in fullscreen21:55
xpressand what i have to remember ^^21:56
flummy_(if it works)21:56
flummy_login with username/password at the provided prompts and type sudo gdm restart21:56
flummy_if it does not work, try alt+f6 or alt+f7 or alt+f821:56
madmax_xpress: but first, cwillu posted how to restart the desktop without switching consoles, did you try that?21:56
SolvedI'm trying to use the program 'playonlinux' to play a game, but when I click on the game, and then hit run, nothing happens. Any playonlinux people out there that can help me?21:56
flummy_to switch back to the graphical X11 systme21:56
xpressw8 to write on some paper =)21:56
slinzexWhy I can't turn off 100% my screen of the laptop. When I run slock, or xset dps 0... ... it's like 2 secs completely off. Then it turns on partially. It's look like grey screen. I'd like power off totally. Is it possible?21:57
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cwilluslinzex, try "sleep 3s; xset dpms off"21:58
madmax_xpress: <Alt>-<PrtSc/SysRq>-<k>      alt prtscrn k21:59
flummy_*trying VERY hard not to press sysRq k*21:59
cwilluwarning:  other keystrokes of the alt-sysrq-* nature can cause damage21:59
flummy_apart from SysRq s22:00
cwilluflummy_, -k is just like ctrl-alt-backspace22:00
flummy_cwillu: very cool.22:00
cwilluflummy_, there's several that are safe.  And they're right next to several that aren't :p22:00
flummy_cwillu: but i'd like to keep my 20 xterms :)22:00
madmax_cwillu: lol, now I need to learn more keyboard shortcuts22:00
cwillualt-sysrq-? will dump the list to dmegs22:00
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cwilluflummy_, do it from a different vterm :p22:00
flummy_cwillu: no.22:01
flummy_cwillu: ^122:01
flummy_cwillu: ^^22:01
cwilluflummy_, it only affects the current vterm22:01
* flummy_ not brave enough.22:01
flummy_maybe next month22:01
flummy_after the next reboot22:01
madmax_cwillu:1912 possibilities... nice22:01
flummy_xpress: dropkick this is skybird with an a-dash-alpha message in two parts, break break22:02
xpress_madmax_: are you here ?22:03
omidowhere can i find a pdf file of the book" the official ubuntu book" ? is it free?22:03
madmax_xpress: yes22:03
madmax_xpress: but your not?22:03
MonkeyDustomido: it's a regular book in the bookshop, not free22:04
flummy_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReJ3RltihME&t=15522:04
omidodamn22:05
xpress_madmax_: it showed me that eror (failed to acquiere org.gnome.Display manager ) and (Could not acquiere :bailing out )22:05
fazomido: pirate bay22:05
MonkeyDustflummy_: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of fancy videos22:05
omidowhere can i find complete documentation like startup guide like what opensuse has ? i want pdf22:05
flummy_MonkeyDust: i think i will rather part #ubuntu and help someone else, bye22:06
madmax_xpress: sounds like it's not loading the display manager on top of the xserver.  have you only rebooted the one time after removing the ath.conf file?22:06
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xpress_yes only 1 :/22:07
xpress_madmax_: so do you know how to fix :S22:07
qinomido: tldp.org/ ubuntu-manual.org/ and google books: http://goo.gl/Nh0ja22:07
madmax_xpress: try a complete reboot, the file you deleted is not related, I want to see if something just crashed at load22:08
omidoqin: is this free or i should pay for this crap too ?22:08
xpress_i rebooted 3 times :/22:08
xpress_madmax_: i rebooted 3 times22:08
qinomido: Two first linke totaly free, google book have many free to read, pay to get.22:08
madmax_xpress: you just said you rebooted 1 time?22:09
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joarUsing the original Terminal in Ubuntu Natty, when doing CTRL + LARROW, the cursor doesn't jump a word to the left but inserts a ;5D instead.22:09
xpress_madmax_: i think that is better reinstall linux :/ ... ?22:09
g0rsanybody using compiz here? animations aren't working even though i've enabled them.22:09
joarThis is undesirable behaviour to me.22:09
ownerOMG I was using Ubuntu 10.04 since its release NEVER had a problem then I upgraded to 11.04, what an Udder piece of SHIT, locks up All the time names in Nautilus disappear WTF22:09
omidowhy dont ubuntu provide free documentation like openSUSE has ?22:09
reisioit's 'utter'22:10
omidoqin: why dont ubuntu provide free documentation like openSUSE has ?22:10
xpress_madmax_: but after the first time i used ctrl + F2 twice22:10
reisioomido: it does22:10
g0rsqin: do you use compiz?22:10
madmax_xpress: that is not a reboot, it just restarts the x server22:10
qing0rs: Yes.22:11
xpress_madmax_: and how to reboot ?22:11
flummy_sync and umount first22:11
madmax_xpress: shutdown, then turn it back on22:11
g0rsqin: are animations working for you? i've enabled them in ccsm but there doesn't seem to any effects.22:11
madmax_xpress: or, sudo reboot22:11
qing0rs: No idea, no x atm.22:12
wiredfoolI'm trying to figure out why my machine is hard freezing -- with 10.04, a fresh install of 10.04, and 11.04.  I can reliably trigger it with vmbuilder, where it dies in a select call. (but it dies in other cases as well, normally after 10 --15 minutes of excercise, but 20 hours of idle can do it too)22:13
omidoreisio:  i mean something like SUSE's . free to read . free to download . free to distribute . this is an example for openSUSE 11.4 : http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse114/22:13
reisioomido: ubuntu has that22:13
qing0rs: Did you edit setting per window?22:13
reisioso does every other popular distro22:13
Tired_Hi.  If I install Beta 2 tonight, will it offer me an upgrade to the release tomorrow in Update Manager?22:13
omidoreisio:  can you please give me the link ?22:13
xpressmadmax_: i didd it it starts with no crashes22:13
reisioomido: what info are you looking for?22:13
g0rsqin: yes, settings such as open,close,minimize22:13
madmax_xpress: desktop is all okay?22:13
xpressmadmax_: and it shows me my desktop for about 2 seconds then disappears22:14
wiredfoolit's not the install, seeing as it does it in 3. It's not video, since I found the vmbuilder crash with the video card pulled. Bonnie++ on either disk runs fine, and I can nc at gigabit speeds for 20+ gigs without a crash22:14
omidoreisio:  info like that link. full documentation including startup guide .22:14
wiredfooland memtest has run for a day, and it still works22:14
wiredfoolWhat am I missing?22:14
reisioomido: go to ubuntu.com, hit Support at the top22:14
Tired_Or will I need to reinstall from scratch to go from Beta 2 to release?22:15
Nach0zHey I've got a question for yall, I know how to use sudo and stuff. But, I can sudo su from an account, and do su <otheruser> from there with no issues... is there a way I can make myself able to "su <otheruser>" without having to sudo su first?22:15
madmax_xpress: show me ls /var/log/Xorg*22:15
xpressmadmax_: xpress@xpress:~$ ls /var/log/Xorg*22:15
xpress/var/log/Xorg.0.log  /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old22:15
reisioNach0z: if you know the user's password22:16
reisioNach0z: su - user22:16
madmax_now show me tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log22:16
qing0rs: Is there any "!" in rules?22:16
Nach0zsu: authentication failure22:16
g0rsqin: where the ! rules?22:16
reisioNach0z: oh, might have to be in the wheel group22:16
xpresscan you give me the site for paste ?22:16
Nach0zuh. wheel group?22:16
reisiosudo gpasswd22:17
nzitWhy does it insert ;5D into Ubuntu Terminal instead of jumping a word to the left? This works fine in Windows.22:17
qing0rs: Recal that animation was set by window class, title, etc... Have you edit those?22:17
reisioNach0z: actually you shouldn't have to be, nevermind22:17
g0rsqin: there are logical oerations on windnows and they contain & and ! , so yes.22:17
Nach0zwell, turns out I just had the password wrong. Is there a way I can skip the authentication step?22:17
airtonixNach0z: lol? no22:17
madmax_xpress: http://paste.ubuntu.com22:17
Nach0zlike, su <otheruser> from root doesn't make me need to auth22:18
reisioNach0z: because root already has all privileges22:18
g0rsqin: here is an example: ((type=Normal | Unknown) | name=sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer | name=sun-awt-X11-XDialogPeer) & !(role=toolTipTip | role=qtooltip_label) & !(type=Normal & override_redirect=1) & !(name=gnome-screensaver)22:18
reisioauthenticating is pointless22:18
reisioyou can do anything as root22:18
xpressmadmax_: http://pastebin.com/Ztqxi1td22:18
Nach0zhm. well. inconvenient but I guess su - <user> works better than having to ssh to localhost...22:19
Nach0zthanks then.22:19
reisiossh to localhost, heh22:19
qing0rs: Above missing )22:19
reisioNach0z: the fact that you want to do this suggests your entire approach is likely suboptimal22:19
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xpressmadmax_: well ?22:20
madmax_xpress: i am waiting for my imac to boot, it has xubuntu, i want to see if i can find the logs22:20
qing0rs: No, my bad22:20
Nach0zreisio I keep different services and programs under different users on my server so that if one gets compromised, it's easier to contain22:20
xpressmadmax_: ok22:20
g0rsqin: is it at the end?  i think it misses ( and )22:20
reisioNach0z: but why would you need to log in as a service's user22:20
g0rsqin: is it at the end?  i think it misses ( and )  in the second expresssion after &!22:20
Nach0z'cuz sometimes Unreal and Eggdrop need rebooted, reisio ... or other stuff22:20
reisioif it's a service you should be able to use the init system22:21
Nach0zor, config changes, more programs, dunno. It changes over time22:21
JonathonAnyone familiar with pam_group.so?22:21
Nach0zlol not that kind of service22:21
reisioJonathon: owes me $522:21
g0rsqin: does it miss a ) at the end?22:21
reisioNach0z: so not a service22:21
Nach0zI just mean different programs really. eggdrop, unreal, qwebirc,22:21
Nach0zyeah not a services.22:21
reisiok...22:21
Nach0z*service. bleh can't type today22:21
reisioyou could make it happen22:22
reisiobut it would work against the extra security22:22
xpressmadmax_: but it never thowed me this problem and i turn off the computer every day ..22:22
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Nach0zyeah, but only one account has sudo and it's got a longarse password .... I prefer to just be able to su - user22:22
xpressmadmax_: trowed *22:22
Nach0zbetter than ssh localhost -l user -p 443 like I normally have to...22:22
reisioNach0z: right, but sudo is configurable22:23
g0rsqin: any ideas ?!22:23
reisioNach0z: you could make an alias to your ssh22:23
JonathonAm I correct in that pam_group.so will make the calling user a member of a group temporarily?22:23
Nach0zyeah, I did that once, but then realized that when I was ssh'ing to someone elses server, the -p 443 was ... uh... unnecessary22:23
Nach0zsu - user really is faster XD22:24
reisio:p22:24
xpressmadmax_: are you here ?22:24
reisioor are you in thunderdome22:24
Nach0zlol reisio22:25
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madmax_xpress: i am, you'll have to be patient, the imac is SLOW22:25
qing0rs: No, not really. Let me start x22:25
xpressmadmax_: i am =) i go to smoke22:26
g0rsqin: thanks22:26
xpressmadmax_ , and you dont acsept files from icc couse there are people sending virus :S ?22:27
madmax_xpress: that is one of the reason's, yes22:28
g0rsqin: please yell after you're back :0)22:28
reisioxpress: imageshack.us22:28
Mneumonicwhat time zone is ubuntu in.  I'm having trouble figuring out when 11.10 is releasing22:28
Mneumonicsays midnight but doesn't say the time zone22:29
xpressreisio , madmax_ .. :/ i would not acsept files too :D !22:29
reisioI do, but it's usually a big hassle to use dcc instead of a hosting service22:30
xpressi didnt understood you .D22:30
xpressso bad english i have =(22:30
madmax_now show me tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log22:31
reisiothat's okay, my castellano is awful22:31
xpress:D22:31
madmax_xpress: show me tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log please22:31
enrolicshi everyone22:32
BarkingFishMneumonic, I'd assume that's 13th October, Midnight UTC/GMT - it's 11.30PM here now, and there's no sign of it. I may be wrong.22:32
reisiohi enrolics22:32
enrolicsI love the lastest version of U22:32
qing0rs: Dunno, can you try to use simple-ccsm in meanwhile.22:32
enrolicshi reisio22:32
reisioenrolics: what do you love about it22:32
BarkingFishso I'd imagine the release is in about 90 minutes time22:32
g0rsqin: okay i'll try simple-ccsm22:32
enrolicswell just the whole interface22:33
zykotick9BarkingFish, it could be ANY time on the 13th22:33
enrolicsI expected to have problems when installing it on my new netbook, but everything works22:33
BarkingFishzykotick9, Mneumonic> what time zone is ubuntu in.  I'm having trouble figuring out when 11.10 is releasing22:33
BarkingFish<Mneumonic> says midnight but doesn't say the time zone22:33
enrolicsnearly everything!22:33
bad_cablesok, i solved the problem of ubuntu live disks crashing with a Dell D820... you have to upgrade the bios to vA07 or higher22:33
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xpress_madmax_ : sorry my computer bugged i couldnt write22:33
reisiobad_cables: fun22:33
zykotick9BarkingFish, the time is never specified22:33
reisiobad_cables: Dell sucks with their BIOSes22:34
g0rsqin: there are dependencies issues with simple-ccsm . it doesn't list any of them.22:34
reisioA07 sounds like it's from several years ago itself22:34
BarkingFishWell it must mention it somewhere, or I doubt Mneumonic would have found it, zykotick9 :)22:34
brett__thisisthecountdown says one day22:34
bad_cablesbut now i have a T-Mobile dongle with a usb CDRom that is blocking the device in the netmanager, how do i solve this without the internet?22:34
zykotick9BarkingFish, really?  they specifically said midnight?  wow.22:34
reisiomakes it easier to count and cheer over downloads22:34
reisioeven though people _should_ be updating from existing installs :p22:34
Mneumonicthe only thing i saw was a countdown that ends in 1 day and 6 hours....which isnt the 13th anywhere22:34
xpress_madmax_: http://pastebin.com/FLPSbknR22:34
BarkingFishMneumonic, Would you mind sharing the URL where you found the info about it being released at midnight please?22:35
enrolicsanyone else got a HP Mini22:35
enrolics?22:35
bad_cableshow do you install Usb-Modeswitch installation without a network connection?22:35
reisioenrolics: I have a cable for one22:35
Mneumonicthe ubuntu release party room says "it will be released at 23:59:5922:35
xpress_madmax_: are you here ?22:35
enrolicsWonder if one can get the "quickweb" button on the mini to work under ubuntu22:35
BarkingFishzykotick9, There we go. That info is up in the release party channel22:35
bad_cablesthis T-mobile dongle with a built in drivers disk is the only way to get on the net22:35
famgodhow do I compile a program from source using apt?22:36
g0rsqin: a package needs upgradation. I 'll take a look at it later for now.22:36
xpress_nqkoi  balgarin ima li :?22:36
reisiofamgod: what program22:36
zykotick9!checkinstall | famgod this might help if you're compiling stuff22:37
ubottufamgod this might help if you're compiling stuff: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!22:37
qing0rs: To get animation working you need to have proper rules, try to put as most top rule (type=Normal)  with effect of your like.22:37
reisiodear lord22:37
arandfamgod: apt does not compile code,  however it will get you the source package using "apt-get source packagename"22:37
reisiowell there's apt-src22:38
madmax_xpress: i am here, just busy.  i did not see anything in the log that can identify your problem yet22:38
g0rsqin: it's usually normal | unknown or normal | dialog22:38
xpress_reisio can u help me ?22:38
reisio?22:38
xpress_reisio: compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.22:39
famgodgot another question..i just removed bind9, then i manually deleted /etc/bind/...now when I reinstall bind9, it doesnt install the config files...help :P22:39
enrolicskeep up the good work guys22:39
enrolicscheers22:39
xpress_reisio: i dont have toobllars and desktop picture .... :/22:39
qing0rs: (type=Normal | Dialog | ModalDialog | Unknown) looks ok, but position of rule apparently do matter.22:41
g0rsqin: i got them working. It was to change otions in a drop down box for each window operation such as  open,close , minimize22:41
qing0rs: drop down box? Where?22:42
arandfamgod: which config files specifically? If you use "apt-file search /etc/bind" you would see what packages would install what files in that directory, some of the files may be auto-generated? user created?22:42
g0rsqin: i had to select a type of animation in each window operation . For example in minimize operation, there was an entry , zoom, I changed it to something else .After that that particular animation was working for minimize window operation.22:43
xpress_resio are u here ?22:43
reisiosorry, pizza time22:44
Jason_I'm glad to be back in here. openSUSE was pissing me off22:44
ZacariasNeed help installing an Epson SX525WD printer on my Ubuntu running on powerpc22:44
qing0rs: Well, good news.22:44
Jason_hey reisio22:44
alamshello guys22:44
ZacariasNeed help installing an Epson SX525WD printer on my Ubuntu running on powerpc. Anyone?22:45
Jason_Zacarias: are there any PPD drivers on Epson'22:45
Jason_s22:45
Jason_site22:45
deebee_Zacarias: just explain your exact problem to the room, and anyone who can help will answer22:46
Palace_chanis there something similar to the ldd command i can use to check which .a (static libs) im building with ?22:46
hilachadoes someone knows if already exists oneiric documentation?22:46
set_killerhey guys. i have messed up the sound settings on 11.10. deleting ~/.pulse does not help. How to reset to default all sound config files?22:47
famgodarand, the files are auto-generated, i just ran apt-file, and it says the bind9 package is the package that will install the files....and when I install the package, it doesnt install the config files22:47
famgodwhen i first installed bind9 it installed the configs22:47
famgodnow that i uninstalled, manually removed them, and then installed it again22:47
famgodit doesnt give me the config files again :(22:47
Jason_I somehow managed to delete my network icon off the status bar. Is there anyway to bring it back?22:49
BigOldCarHello, gang.  Can anyone point me to a step-by-step on configuring my ATI Mach64 GT video card with Lucid?22:49
arandfamgod: It may be the case that you removed the package but did not purge it, in which case it assumes that the config files are still there, and don't overwrite them...22:49
deebee_famgod: try sudo apt-get --purge remove bind922:49
deebee_famgod: and then reinstall22:49
BigOldCarI got it working in Hardy, but upgrade killed my system so I'm working with a new install.22:49
famgoddeebee_ thank you :)22:50
Nach0zIs there any real advantage of using sudo -i rather than sudo su?22:50
set_killerdeebee_: how to reinstall pulseaudio and to remove all config files ?22:50
set_killeron 11.1022:51
pangolin!11.1022:51
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 | /join #ubuntu-release-party and wait for the announcement.22:51
recon69_lapset_killer have you tried using alsamixer, can be handy when trouble shooting sound22:51
deebee_set_killer: sorry, don't know too much when it comes to ubuntu desktop22:52
set_killeri have applied some effects with audacious, but unfortunatly they have applied to the whole system, not only to audacious22:52
Nach0zset_killer: you could try sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio22:52
Nach0zthat MAY remove the puslaudio configs22:52
xpressreisio: are you here ?22:53
hilachaJason_, try nm-applet22:53
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xpresscan anybody helps ? i dont have toolblars like for exit from some program neither a desktop picture  :/22:54
xpressand i cant move the windows ..22:54
set_killerNach0z: is this going to remove pulse... or it will reinstall it?22:55
hilachaxpress, are you running gnome?22:55
Nach0zRemoves it, to my knowledge22:55
xpressyes22:55
xpresshilacha: yes22:56
deebee_xpress: what were you doing before it went wrong? is it a fresh install?22:56
hilachaxpress, try metacity &22:57
Jason_ah22:57
Jason_that did it22:57
xpressdebee_ :i was making ath9k.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ for better wifi connection and on the reboot this happened22:57
Jason_is there an icon I can make to execute that command?22:57
Jason_not an icon22:58
Jason_a script22:58
set_killerNach0z: thanks, after removing config files with PURGE, i reinstalled pulseaudio with sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop22:58
Nach0zso... did it work? lol22:58
set_killeryes :]22:59
Nach0zawesome. I feel smart now22:59
utgtis ubuntu 11.10 out yet?22:59
utgtwhat is new in ubuntu 11.10?22:59
deebee_xpress: not sure I can help you with that, but an IRC tip - type the first few letters of someone's nick and press Tab to get the rest. Makes replying a lot easier and error free :)22:59
xanguautgt: can you read the topic¿22:59
qinutgt: /join #ubuntu+122:59
set_killerubuntu-desktop just installed missing packets after the purge23:00
arandNach0z: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4 shows the differences23:00
xpresshilacha: that worked but i now can move the windows but cant have desktop picture neither options for put some ..23:00
Nach0zthanks arand23:00
Nach0zhm... that's 'zactly what I was lookin for23:01
hilachaxpress, i know until here. :)23:01
xpressdeebee_, wow thanks =)23:01
D_Russpossible to upgrade from 11.04 32 bit to 11.10 64 bit?23:02
xpresshilacha, ok thanks =)23:02
BarkingFish!+1 D_Russ23:02
Sphearionbest part of 11.10.. native adaptec 6405 aacraid drives.. no more wasted time compiling that module for installs... yay!23:02
qinD_Russ: No23:02
BarkingFish!+1 | D_Russ23:02
qinBarkingFish: He asked same in #ubuntu+123:02
BarkingFishok qin, thanks23:03
hilachaSphearion, are you talking about embedded adaptec driver in the kernel?23:03
D_Russno answer in +123:03
BarkingFishI'm not keeping up with +1's release party, or the channel, qin - too silly for me :)23:03
ZacariasOk. II downloaded the printer drivers from the Avasys website (http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/download/lsb/epson-inkjet/escp/) and I tried to compile from source (the deb packages were not available for ppc. But I couldn't do it with the usual commands (./configure, make and make install). There were some errors. I connected the printer with an ethernet cable and it was identified as a network printer, which was perfect. But then it began looking for23:03
Zacariasdrivers, and it said there was something like an epson-escp- wrapper missing. Before I had already tried with the USB cable, it asked me for the ppd and I pointed to the one in the package directory. Apparently it was succesfuly installed, but it was always asking for the filter which couldn't be found. I tried to configure and install using the filter directory that came with the whole package, but there were always errors, first with the configure (it23:03
Zacariasmissed a prefix, I guess) and then with make (error in the Makefile). I looked for support (Ubuntu forums, Avasys website and forums, Epson support for my country), but without success. I have the printer installed on two Mac OS systems (on another drive on the same computer and on a Macbook). But I don't want to change OS each time I have to print something!23:03
FloodBot1Zacarias: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:03
Sphearionhilacha, i mean i just installed the daily on one of my servers with that card in it and I didn't have to add steps for it to see the arrays. soo nice23:03
Sphearioni think there was the later end of the 2.x kernels that had support for it to. but not during install of 11.04 as it was 1 kernel version too old23:04
hilachaSphearion, cool. i work with raid cards in linux, but we uses debian23:05
qinZacarias: What epson is it?23:05
SphearionWe are an Ubuntu shop.23:05
hilachai dont know if already there are support to that board in squeeze23:05
Sphearionand those cards used to give me hell23:05
hilachathe problem is recompile the kernel to support it?23:06
JamesMcso, is 11.10 out today without an RC?23:06
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canardHa23:06
JamesMcstop following me canard, it's creepy23:06
Sphearionthe problem was it was in a rpm from adaptec so during install you had to dkms and alien the package23:06
Sphearionat least in 11.0423:06
MyrttiJamesMc: in the next 24 hours, yes23:06
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MyrttiJamesMc: join #ubuntu-release-party for more23:07
hilachaSphearion, do you sell hardware for ubuntu? what is your url shop?23:07
JamesMcMydoom: is that the official word? I'm really surprised there's been no RC23:07
canardcheers Myrtti23:07
Sphearionwe don't sell. shop meaning all our servers are ubuntu and our desktops are all ubuntu.23:07
xpressi dont have background can somebody helps ?23:07
hilachais common a rc before a final release in ubuntu releases>23:07
hilacha?23:07
MyrttiJamesMc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule23:07
ZacariasFloodBot1: I don't understand23:08
rwwJamesMc: The release team decided not to do RCs for this and future releases unless they change their mind.23:08
xpressZacarias, he is a bot :D ..23:08
hilachaSphearion, ok :) do you use adaptec 2405?23:08
Zacariasqin: it's an Epson SX525WD23:08
Sphearionno only the 640523:08
Sphearionand alot of asus pike cards23:09
hilachapike cards? what it that?23:09
JamesMcrww: is there anywhere I can read about the decision? I've been rather concerned with the quality of the last couple of ubuntu releases and while I understand an RC isn't anything special, I still think it's important to have one23:10
Spheariona pike is like a manufacturer sas card for asus motherboards. it works like the adaptec. but it uses the motherboard sata connectors. and has a very special connector kinda like a really stretched out PCI23:10
rwwJamesMc: not that I know of23:10
qinZacarias: One moment, floodbot told you to keep it brief.23:10
Zacariasqin: but it was a long story23:11
JamesMcrww: thanks, I'll hunt around myself and see if I can find something, but I'm surprised I've not heard anything about this before23:12
hilachaSphearion, humm. i understood. Intel calls it a zero channel raid board (i guess). we already used that, but a lot time ago, witch scsi.23:12
Sphearionhilacha, http://us.estore.asus.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2049 thats a pike23:12
canardJamesMc: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-February/032448.html23:13
recon69_lapZacarias: pastebin the output of the ./configure and ./make commands23:14
JamesMcthanks canard, I'm fairly certain the RC was listed in the release schedule for oneiric though23:14
hilachaSphearion, thank you. i didnt about that23:14
Zacariasrecon69_lap: how do I paste bin? Sorry for my ignorance23:16
BarkingFish!pastebin | Zacarias23:16
ubottuZacarias: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:16
RobotBotdoes upgrading remove old apps that are not in the new version?23:16
MonkeyDustZacarias: for example: ls -l|pastebinit23:17
recon69_laprecon69_lap: and if the make is huge just paste the end bit23:17
ZacariasMonkeyDust: for instance, if I want to paste the output of the terminal, I copy it and then what? Sorry23:19
georgeanyone here have fios in NJ?23:20
xpressguys .. i think i fuc*ed the ubuntu :D .. just sayin :P23:20
pedroSou novo, tem alguém do Brasil?23:21
xpressno pero españoles si k hay :D ^^23:21
Pici!br | pedro23:22
ubottupedro: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.23:22
qinZacarias: Native driver Epson SX600FW could be worth trying, unless Printers differ to much.23:22
recon69_lapZacarias: paste into pastebin and then give us the resulting link23:22
xpresspedro is just a bot :D !23:22
Zacariasqin: I'll try it23:23
artzrahi23:23
Zacariasrecon69_lap: thanks. I'll do that in a moment and give you the result23:23
artzrai have install ubuntu near seven23:24
pedro estou com um problema, baixei uma livraria que ta no formato .tar.gz, alguem pode me falar como instalo?23:24
artzrai have lose the dualboot23:24
pedro estou com um problema, baixei uma livraria que ta no formato .tar.gz, alguem pode me falar como instalo?23:25
hilachapedro, cd /usr/local/src23:25
Pici!br | pedro23:25
hilachamv lib.tar.gz /usr/local/src23:26
hilachatar xvfz lib.tar.gz23:26
hilachacd lib23:26
hilachamake23:26
hilachamake install23:26
FloodBot1hilacha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:26
* yagoo thinks xar is supposed to succeed tar23:26
pedroobrigado23:27
yagoohilacha, its f before the filename.. --tar xzvf <filename.23:27
pedrothanks23:27
wenkquestion: Is it possible to get 11.04 to stop major updates of firefox ?  I'd like to stick around 6 if I can...23:27
henrik_how to i join an other server?23:28
yagoowho's asking this tar question?23:28
yagoou dont need to mv the tar.. u can use the -C option..23:28
aeon-ltdhenrik_: that depennds on your irc client23:28
henrik_aeon_ltd: i just downloaded it from ubuntu software center. xchat - gnome irc chat23:29
D_Russi think i will wait a few days before i install 11.10. Now sandra has me a bit worried that me switching to 64 bit will become a problem. maybe i should test it in virtual box first23:30
henrik_and this my first time using irc in about 10 years23:30
yagoohenrik_, 2 years or decimal 10 ?23:30
aeon-ltdhenrik_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto#Connecting_to_a_Server23:31
josefighello, what is the repository to install gnome-contacts and gnome-sushi ? I upgraded to gnome 3.2 but it says command not found when I try a gnome-contacts23:31
Zacariasrecon69_lap: output for the ./configure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707052/23:31
henrik_probably not 10 years. perhaps 101 year in binary, if that's what you mean23:31
henrik_thanks!23:31
artzrahi, by chance , can y explain how made a dualboot23:32
Zacariasrecon69_lap: next the make output23:32
yagooartzra, if windows is installed.. the ubuntu installer adds an entry to the grub menu (sometimes u may need to do manual interevention if its not added properly)23:33
jaimefGetting Untrusted packages from ppa.launchpad and wonder if adding the right key would avoid this warning23:33
Zacariasrecon69_lap: make23:33
ZacariasMakefile:15: *** missing separator.  Stop.23:33
almoxarifejaimef: it will, but the question then becomes, do you trust the key?23:33
artzrayayoo, i have install a oneric 11.10 and it s just erase winboot23:34
brightsparkHi all, I'd appreciate assistance getting 'totem' to play youtube videos using the menu in the sidebar.  I get a dialog box saying 'GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.'  Terminal output available; thanks in advance.23:34
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henrik_aeon_ltd: that wasn't very useful . it's  definitely not the same version as i'm using23:34
jaimefyeah guess kubuntu-ppa could be unstrusted23:34
artzra#ubuntu+123:34
henrik_looks completly different23:34
Zacariasrecon69_lap: output for the make: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707056/23:34
mindsystemhi, i'm looking to setup a local irc at my school for the computer science students. are there any suggested ircd's for this sort of small scale task? forums didn't seem to have much...23:35
AsurahHey folks23:35
yagooartzra, u still there?23:36
henrik_aeon_ltd: but thanks anyway. it's 0135 at night here in norway, so i'm going to bed. i'll figure it out tomorrow23:36
AsurahCan anyone help with a quite crucial problem?23:36
yagoo!ask23:36
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:36
AsurahOh well23:37
AsurahI'm quite new to Ubuntu, tried to install it today, both 64 and 32bit versions (got a 64bit comp), installation goes on perfectly fine, I press the restart button at the end, take the CD out, but it simply gets stuck in boot23:39
Asurahi.e after BIOS, before actual OS loads.23:39
recon69_lapZacarias: don't look like make did anything, readme for driver not much help. why you compiling, cant you install the pre compiled deb file23:40
Zacariasrecon69_lap: no, I'm running power pc, and the deb packages are for other architectures23:41
almoxarifeAsurah: anything else installed on the pc?23:41
Asurahalmoxarife - I've got two HDD, one is the OS which is formatted before Ubuntu installation, other one is data23:42
Asurahmusic, video, the whole shabang23:42
yagoocan someone verify for me.. if its grub2 or grub1 for the default latest ubuntus?23:44
urist_hello... I have been trying to run Vim on my Ubuntu and it works fine, but I'm wondering how I can open a GUI Vim23:44
BarkingFishgrub2 for the latest versions, yagoo23:45
almoxarifeAsurah: what type of install disc did you use?23:45
Asurahalmoxarife: I just downloaded the .iso from the official site and burned it on a CD..23:45
almoxarifeAsurah: I would suggest you download the 'alternate' version and redo the install, I have never had issues with a ;alternate' but have had with the 'desktop'23:47
BarkingFishright peeps I'm out for the night, need my sleep.23:47
Asurahalmoxarife - is there any difference for a beginner user like myself?23:48
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almoxarifeAsurah: the install or final desktop?23:49
Asurahalmoxarife - both?23:49
Asurahis there anything I should know about the install?23:50
Asurahand is there any differences in user experience between alternate and normal versions?23:50
akem.pdf thumbs works like a charm on Ubuntu, it's awesome / got somuch troubles to get that on Win7.23:50
recon69_lapAsurah: well, just burn the .iso and boot from it, then run the hardware tests to see if you got problems before installing23:50
almoxarifeAsurah: same desktop will be avail, the alternate comes with more avail drivers for the install, a good thing. the install menu is the same basic one, I also suggest having the machine hardwired if possible to the internet23:51
Asurahrecon69_lap - what do you mean by hardware tests? how can I have hardware failures installing one OS but have no problems on the other one?23:52
urist_hello... I have been trying to run Vim on my Ubuntu and it works fine, but I'm wondering how I can open a GUI Vim23:52
aeon-ltdurist_: vim doesn't have a gui but gvim does23:52
wplug_terrygAnybody here install vsftpd?23:52
Asurahalmoxarife - think I'll try to run it alongside Windows and see if that works. Then I'll download the entire thing again and try it again23:52
urist_is gvim the same as Vim but in GUI form?23:53
histourist_: yes23:53
almoxarifeAsurah: you said there was no other OS23:53
urist_cool... thank you23:53
histourist_: you can also probably find vim-nogui23:53
histourist_: they also have gvim for windows23:53
almoxarifeAsurah: good luck23:53
Asurahalmoxarife - I reinstalled Windows so I could get into the support23:53
urist_perfect, I do intend to use it both on windows and Linux... thanks histo and aeon-ltd23:54
wplug_terrygCan anybody help with vsftpd?23:54
Zacariasqin: I tried several drivers, but I always get the message: Printer 'Epson-Stylus-SX525WD' requires the 'epson-escpr-wrapper' program but it is not currently installed.  Please install it before using this printer.23:54
recon69_lapAsurah: you can use the live cd to see likely problems before you install anything. just saying you can check first23:55
Asurahrecon69_lap - how can I do that?23:55
histo!anyone | wplug_terryg23:55
ubottuwplug_terryg: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:55
wplug_terrygOk23:56
brightsparkHi all, I'd appreciate assistance getting 'totem' to play youtube videos using the menu in the sidebar.  I get a dialog box saying 'GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.'  Terminal output available; thanks in advance.23:58
wplug_terrygI'm trying to install vsftpd using this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293.  I'm running into a command not found error. dbxxx_load23:58
Malgorathhttp://pastebin.com/n82pVU1x <-- nvidia bug report error. can anyone help me with this, i have so far tried to add modes, change video card from 210 to a 220 reinstalled a few times... getting frustrated23:58
wplug_terrygI have been searching ubuntuforums and have not found an answer23:58

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