[00:00] <cypha> i tried using setxkbmap -option crtl:swapcaps, and now I can't turn it off even though I've removed the line from local.rc
[00:01] <sandra> I'm new to Ubuntu I am currently running Ubuntu Oneiric but I am experiencing track pad troubles and can't seem to get nvidia's 285.05.09 video driver to work under Oneiric and yet everything I just listed works on Natty.
[00:01] <sandra> Any ideas ?
[00:01] <plut0> i need help troubleshooting a DNS issue.  i run a local bind server, using the command 'host' lookups succeed, pinging the same address fails. what is wrong?
[00:01] <reisio> sandra: ...use Natty?
[00:01] <sandra> also nautilus seems to act buggy too
[00:02] <silverlightning> is there a way to find sound on my laptop? newly installed os
[00:02] <joaquin> hola. necesito ayuda libre office impress
[00:02] <eiriksvin> hello, I have a question: I have a great wifi USB wifi reciever that gives internet access to my PC, my goal is to ethernet my PS3 to my computer and use the internet connection my computer gets because the PS3s wifi isn't strong enough to pick up the signal that my PC does anyone know how to do that?
[00:02] <eiriksvin> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 can someone help me get my PS3 online?
[00:03] <reisio> eiriksvin: your computer gets the signal from a usb peripheral?
[00:03] <sandra> reisio: I have both Natty and Oneirc on separate partitions on my laptop hard drive.
[00:03] <kogie> eiriksvin: use adhoc
[00:03] <reisio> sandra: ...use Natty?
[00:03] <tapir> Any recommendation I need a program to download files in batchs (like example01.jpg, imagen02.jpg ...) for ubuntu ?
[00:03] <reisio> tapir: what changes?
[00:03] <eiriksvin> my PC is connected through wifi, I want to ethernet my PS3 to my PC to use its connection
[00:03] <SIFTU> tapir: wget
[00:04] <Stanley00> tapir: wget can help
[00:04] <reisio> silverlightning: your sound isn't working?
[00:04] <eiriksvin> I don't know how to get it to connect
[00:04] <reisio> eiriksvin: ah
[00:04] <reisio> eiriksvin: and your PS3 is stock?
[00:04] <tapir> i use Uget is the same ?
[00:04] <eiriksvin> yep
[00:04] <sandra> reisio: are you saying just use Natty ? I know Oneiric is due out in a few days . Are you saying that Oneiric is not close to prime time use ?
[00:05] <kogie> eiriksvin: you may setup adhoc on your pc and connect your ps3 via wifi
[00:05] <reisio> sandra: if it were it'd be out, but that's irrelevant if it's not working for you
[00:05] <eiriksvin> I have it on auto eth0 it picked it up, but how do I let the PS3 use my connection?
[00:05] <sandra> And that there is no current solution to my listed problem on Oneiric?
[00:05] <reisio> oh there probably is
[00:06] <silverlightning> reisio: probably, I am get help in lubuntu channel
[00:06] <cypha> reisio, glad to see you!
[00:06] <SIFTU> tapir: no idea about uget, but wget can recursively get files from the web
[00:06] <somsip> !11.10 | sandra
[00:06] <somsip> sandra: so #ubuntu+1 might have more answers for you
[00:06] <eiriksvin> I only have a wifi dongle, it don't put out signals but its awesome at recieving them
[00:06] <cypha> all these questions, and there was no one with answers
[00:07] <silverlightning> eiriksvin: have to improve your nick
[00:07] <reisio> cypha: hi
[00:07] <silverlightning> ; )
[00:07] <cypha> I tried using setxkbmap -option crtl:swapcaps, and now I can't turn it off even though I've removed the line from local.rc
[00:07] <reisio> silverlightning: k?
[00:07] <reisio> sandra: you could try another kernel version
[00:07] <kogie> eiriksvin: i suggest googling on how to setup adhoc
[00:07] <reisio> (for the nvidia issue)
[00:08] <eiriksvin> silverlightning: my nick is in honor of a relative that passed
[00:08] <sandra> I use classic mode under Natty I don't use Unity. In my opinion the classic mode is seems more intuitive vs Natty
[00:09] <reisio> vs Natty or Unity
[00:09] <silverlightning> eiriksvin: oh, sorry, I was thinking it might need some nicing up
[00:09] <silverlightning> ; )
[00:09] <somsip> silverlightning: hole, deep enough, stop
[00:09] <reisio> yeah, don't apologize, that's wrong
[00:10] <eiriksvin> wtf? my nick is icelandic
[00:10] <reisio> does that surprise you?
[00:10] <eiriksvin> it means "the friend of Eirik
[00:11] <eiriksvin> "
[00:11] <reisio> how do you say Eirik the dominator?
[00:11] <xangua> !ot
[00:11] <mynotes> how to change password on ubuntu
[00:11] <tdrusk> I have two desktops here. One is  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU          450  @ 2.20GHz and the other is a celeron duo. Any clue as to which is faster?
[00:11] <reisio> mynotes: the password for your user?
[00:12] <reisio> tdrusk: what's the number on the latter
[00:12] <cypha> I tried using setxkbmap -option crtl:swapcaps, and now I can't turn it off even though I've removed the line from local.rc
[00:12] <somsip> tdrusk: cat /proc/cpuinfo on each and check the bogomips, as a very rough idea
[00:12] <bkerensa> So I'm installing Ubuntu (Natty) on a friends laptop but for some reason the video is weird its like blinds
[00:12] <bkerensa> any help?
[00:13] <reisio> mynotes: I don't know the GUI way, but you can run 'passwd' in a terminal
[00:13] <somsip> !nomodeset | bkerensa
[00:13] <reisio> bkerensa: nvidia?
[00:13] <bkerensa> reisio: Yes
[00:13] <bkerensa> HP Pavilion with nvidia card
[00:16] <mynotes> reisio: thanks
[00:16] <bkerensa> reisio: It looks all blinds even when I login
[00:16] <bkerensa> :D
[00:16] <bkerensa> reisio: Any how to for fixing this would be appreciated
[00:16] <mynotes> how to create shared folder on ubuntu. i'm using vmware with  window xp host and guest os ubuntu 10.10
[00:16] <reisio> well it's probably using the open source driver, nouveau, during installation
[00:17] <reisio> bkerensa: if you can make it through the install, it's possible you can just switch to the binary driver and call it a day
[00:17] <somsip> bkerensa: I've suggest looking at nomodeset which is advice repeated on this link. But you might find more info here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1706539
[00:17] <reisio> mynotes: I only know how in VirtualBox, but presumably #vmware would know how for VMware
[00:17] <eiriksvin> cna anyone with networking skills help me get my PC to share it's wifi internet connection with my PS3
[00:24] <spreadneck205> does anyone know how i can get an asus usb n13 wireless adapter to work for 11.04? i have the installation disk but im not sure how to use the files provided...
[00:24] <reisio> spreadneck205: does it say 'Linux' on the disc? :p
[00:24] <Krenair> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/Ubuntu%2011.04%20panel%20right%20click%20problem.png Ubuntu 11.04
[00:25] <Krenair> Why is this happening and how can I fix it?
[00:25] <Ben64> wheres the problem
[00:25] <reisio> text in the menu
[00:26] <spreadneck205> it is compatible, there is a folder titled "linux" i extracted the files, but i cant understand how to install the driver.... the readme is over my head
[00:26] <Krenair> Ben64, what reisio said
[00:26] <Ben64> looks like a problem with your theme
[00:26] <zimb0> check my website: http://rep.sdf.org
[00:26] <Ben64> zimb0: please don't advertise
[00:27] <cypha> I tried using setxkbmap -option crtl:swapcaps, and now I can't turn it off even though I've removed the line from local.rc
[00:27] <zimb0> Alright
[00:27] <MACscr|lappy> i just did a server install, but i ended up adding the gnome gui and i want to get the disk manager as well. Whats it called? Trying to install it with apt
[00:27] <reisio> spreadneck205: it's be pretty surprising if you don't already have the driver available to modprobe
[00:27] <tanzy_> hello yall
[00:27] <Ben64> MACscr|lappy: how did you install gnome
[00:27] <reisio> spreadneck205: maybe rt2800usb
[00:28] <spreadneck205> reisio: im not sure what you mean
[00:28] <MACscr|lappy> Ben64: sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop --without-recommendations
[00:28] <MACscr|lappy> or something like that
[00:28] <reisio> I mean when there are drivers for things, they're added to the kernel, you don't have to rely on random install discs
[00:28] <Ben64> why without? i think it would have installed disk manager
[00:28] <reisio> spreadneck205: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Asus%20USB-N13_Natty%2011.04
[00:29] <zimb0>  "never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"
[00:30] <spreadneck205> reisio: ok, ill try that.. it says something about n-band not working? thats the only reason i would need the driver
[00:30] <reisio> spreadneck205: n _speed_ is what I remember reading
[00:30] <reisio> for a particular version
[00:31] <Ben64> MACscr|lappy: "sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility" is probably what you want
[00:31] <reisio> so it might not give you as fast a connection as it is physically able to, because of the driver, but it'll work
[00:31] <MACscr|lappy> Ben64: because i didnt want all the extra crap like office or evolution, etc
[00:31] <reisio> GNOME is pretty enormous even without that stuff
[00:31] <spreadneck205> reisio: right, im using my internal wifi right now... i just got this so i would get faster internet... works awesome iin windows, but if it wont give me better speeds than b/g then i can just use the one im on now
[00:32] <Drecondius> Good evening, where do i need to go for installation issues?
[00:32] <reisio> spreadneck205: well check
[00:32] <spreadneck205> reisio: ok thanks
[00:32] <reisio> spreadneck205: if it doesn't, what I'd do is check for a newer version that does
[00:32] <spreadneck205> ok cool
[00:32] <reisio> spreadneck205: or if both those drivers work for it, perhaps try the other one
[00:32]  * reisio shrugs
[00:33] <bjorkintosh> does ubuntu run on intel xeon machines?
[00:33] <Drecondius> afaik
[00:33] <spreadneck205> reisio: same here, thanks for yo help
[00:33] <reisio> bjorkintosh: naturally
[00:33] <bjorkintosh> hmm. is it an x86 architecture?
[00:33] <bjorkintosh> err. ISA ...
[00:33] <bjorkintosh> i'm not at all familiar with them.
[00:33] <reisio> amd64
[00:33] <reisio> probably
[00:34] <reisio> bjorkintosh: you don't know the exact model number?
[00:34] <Drecondius> bjorkintosh: xeon are em64t or x86 depending on what kind of load you expect
[00:34] <bjorkintosh> not at all. i'm researching a machine for datacrunching.
[00:34] <Drecondius> and os you install
[00:34] <bjorkintosh> so i need to have lots of ram.
[00:34] <bjorkintosh> > 8 gig.
[00:35] <Drecondius> that's what i run for my daily needs fer gaming lol
[00:35] <bjorkintosh> em64t?
[00:35] <Drecondius> intel's x64 arch
[00:35] <cypha> my local.rc file is being ignored
[00:35] <reisio> they don't actually call it that anymore
[00:35] <cypha> can someone please help?
[00:36] <Ibis> !ask cypha
[00:36] <Drecondius> i been outta the loop, been using amd for about 2 yrs now so ...
[00:36] <cypha> I just did Ibis
[00:36] <Ibis> cypha: Don't ask to ask, just tell us your problem.
[00:36] <reisio> and Linux land calls it amd64 anyways
[00:36] <cypha> !stopspamtrigger
[00:36] <Ibis> We can not help you if we do not know the issue.
[00:37] <cypha> local.rc is not being respected
[00:37] <cypha> commands in there don't run
[00:37] <cypha> I don't think
[00:37] <mariana> ???????????'''
[00:37] <cypha> got a command I can test it with
[00:37] <cypha> ?
[00:37] <mariana> ?????????
[00:37] <mariana> hello
[00:37] <reisio> bjorkintosh: vast majority of modern processors are going to fall into amd64
[00:37] <edbian> mariana, hi
[00:37] <smw> What is the code name for the next ubuntu?
[00:37] <Ibis> cypha: Sure. Put in firefox. o_O
[00:37] <reisio> smw: next after what?
[00:38] <smw> reisio, the next one to be released
[00:38] <Ben64> precise pangolin
[00:38] <reisio> smw: oneiric
[00:38] <cypha> Ibis, k
[00:38] <cypha> brb
[00:38] <smw> reisio, probably this month if they stick to schedule :-)
[00:38] <Ben64> oh
[00:38] <Ibis> smw: Oneiric
[00:38] <reisio> smw: right
[00:38] <smw> thanks reisio
[00:38] <Ben64> precise is in april 2012
[00:38] <zimb0>  smw: the next ubuntu will be called wanker
[00:38] <reisio> 11.10 oneiric ocelot
[00:38] <mariana> im español
[00:38] <reisio> should be an amusing couple years with that name
[00:39] <reisio> maybe people will start using the version _number_ like they're supposed to
[00:39] <mariana> you
[00:39] <smw> reisio, petrified panda!
[00:39] <reisio> im english
[00:39] <reisio> smw: frozen ferret
[00:39] <Ibis> pretty phoenix
[00:39] <zimb0> i'm
[00:39] <mariana> im spañol??
[00:39] <mariana> no??
[00:39] <cypha> Ibis, no, that did not work
[00:40] <smw> reisio, f is not after O :-P
[00:40] <reisio> mariana: probably #ubuntu-es
[00:40] <reisio> smw: who cares
[00:40] <mariana> im not inglish
[00:40] <reisio> version numbers
[00:40] <reisio> mariana: I can tell
[00:40] <smw> !es | mariana
[00:40] <cypha> ibis, actually it's rc.local
[00:40] <cypha> not local.rc
[00:41] <cypha> sorry for the dyslexia
[00:41] <Ibis> cypha: Lol, okay. It happens.
[00:41] <smw> mariana, todo bien? :-)
[00:41] <cypha> anyway, yes, it didn't run firefox
[00:41] <meem1029> Out of curiosity, what does rc stand for in all those config files?
[00:41] <edbian> rental car
[00:42] <mariana> ????
[00:42] <smw> meem1029, runlevel control?
[00:42] <hunter> hey yall
[00:42] <Krenair> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/Ubuntu%2011.04%20panel%20right%20click%20problem.png Ubuntu 11.04. Might be a problem with the theme. Any other ideas/how to fix?
[00:42] <Ibis> Run command?
[00:42] <mariana> hello
[00:42] <yeats> meem1029: run command(s)
[00:43] <Guest85017> would you happen to know more about compiz?
[00:43] <meem1029> Cool.  I've always wondered that.  Thanks for the answers.
[00:43] <edbian> hunter hello
[00:43] <cypha> Ibis, you're telling me?
[00:43] <Ibis> cypha: I was answering meem1029.
[00:43] <Guest85017> hello edbian
[00:44] <edbian> Guest85017, hi
[00:44] <Guest85017> whats up
[00:44] <edbian> Nothing, you have a support question Guest85017 ?
[00:45] <reisio> Ibis: alt+f2?
[00:45] <Guest85017> sort of
[00:45] <Ibis> reisio: I was answering meem1029.
[00:45] <edbian> Guest85017, I live to answer questions.  Let's here it
[00:45] <reisio> was you...
[00:45] <Guest85017> i need to know how to get my windows to burn up when closed
[00:45] <reisio> edbian: what's the square root of 874
[00:45] <zimb0> Guest85017 what's up
[00:45] <Ibis> Guest85017: Yea, and let's not "ask to ask". Get to the point.
[00:45] <mariana> hello as they are? where are they?
[00:46] <Guest85017> nm zimb0
[00:46] <zimb0>  edbian: let's HEAR it
[00:46] <yeats> !compiz | Guest85017
[00:47] <Guest85017> ive got compiz i just cant figure out the burning windows
[00:47] <mariana> hello!!!
[00:47] <Ibis> Hi mariana.
[00:47] <Guest85017> hello
[00:47] <Lithos84> mariana: Hello.
[00:48] <mariana> hello as they are? where are they?
[00:48] <yeats> !ccsm | Guest85017
[00:48] <edbian> 29.5634909981
[00:48] <edbian> sorry it took me a second, I'm on many channels right now
[00:48] <cypha> why isn't rc.local loading at boot?
[00:48] <Guest85017> ok thanks i will try that
[00:48] <mariana> that is??
[00:49] <yeats> mariana: support question?
[00:49] <mariana> no entiendo
[00:50] <Guest85017> do you guys have ubuntu as a replacement for windows or next to it?
[00:50] <yeats> !es | mariana
[00:50] <D_Russ> hello all
[00:50] <reisio> already in #ubuntu-es
[00:50] <reisio> D_Russ: hi
[00:50] <smw> Guest85017, replacement
[00:50] <bugs_bugger> hey there. havent found nothing on the webs about this: is it possible to use gnome-shell/mutter and gnome-panels/metacity as different sessions?
[00:50] <zimb0> check my website: http://rep.sdf.org
[00:50] <Guest85017> yo whats up D_Russ
[00:50] <mariana> bye
[00:50] <reisio> bugs_bugger: if you can install them on the same system, of course
[00:51] <reisio> zimb0: hang on, I'll find a banstick for you
[00:51] <smw> Guest85017, please get a real nick :-)
[00:51] <zimb0> reisio: bring it . nazi
[00:52] <Guest85017> ok i will do i need to restart IRC?
[00:52] <reisio> zimb0: are you ready?!
[00:52] <bugs_bugger> reisio: gnome3 has them both or am i mistaken. isnt that what the fallback-mode is about? how would i create a session for gnome panels?
[00:52] <edbian> Guest85017, no, just /nick <newName>
[00:52] <smw> Guest85017, all you need to do is type /nick a-new-nick
[00:52] <Ibis> Guest85017: sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm                                     Simply Compiz Config Settings Manager.
[00:52] <Guest85017> k
[00:52] <D_Russ> i have this strange bug thats forcing me to resize thunderbird before i close it. using natty, i have global menus turned off, i have allow all apps to minmize to sys tray. If i close an app while it is maximized and it goes to the system tray i am not able to grab and move other open maximized windows by grabbing it at the title bar.
[00:52] <reisio> bugs_bugger: did you check the little drop down list in GDM?
[00:52] <D_Russ> anyone see this happening?
[00:53] <hunter_> hunter
[00:53] <bugs_bugger> reisio: yeah, i have a "GNOME" Session with the Shell and a "Gnome" wich is supposed to use the "old" config with gnome panels
[00:54] <hunter_> ok there finaly
[00:54] <Lithos84> D_Russ: Hello.
[00:54] <D_Russ> Lithos84 how are you
[00:54] <bugs_bugger> reisio: but when i log in to "Gnome" it says that the config gnome-common could not be found
[00:54] <scottamunga> Hey everybody, just curious if anybody knows where I can download the Light Themes from Maverick and above for Lucid Lynx?
[00:55] <scottamunga> Thanks!
[00:55] <reisio> bugs_bugger: is that exactly what it says?
[00:55] <Bash> I have a ntfs hard drive that's failing hard and wondering the best way to automaticall transfer all the files it can without me having to input anything if it gets an i/o error and needs to skip.
[00:55] <stigma_> Hey folks, I know this may not seem like an entirely ubuntu-specific query, but I'm fairly new to Linux, so the minutia is important: anybody know how I update GCC to the latest version and update Code::Blocks to use it?
[00:56] <Ibis> Guest85017: If that don't work, then use this: sudo apt-get installccsm                                     Compiz Config Settings Manager.
[00:56] <reisio> Bash: define failing hard
[00:56] <bugs_bugger> reisio: uhm, not sure, wait ill change the user
[00:56] <Ibis> sudo apt-get install ccsm
[00:56] <mappum> Are there any tools for measuring FLOPS (on all my GPUs + CPU)?
[00:56] <bugs_bugger> scottamunga: is this the thing you're lookin for? http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/light-themes
[00:56] <hunter_> im not guest85017 no more
[00:57] <Ibis> stigma_: sudo apt-get install gcc                          <---- It may tell you about updates and such.
[00:57] <pangolin> reisio: may I pm?
[00:57] <reisio> Bash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ddrescue#cite_ref-7
[00:57] <hunter_> ibis: i have it installed
[00:57] <bugs_bugger> scottamunga: aw, sorry, that was the german page. packages.ubuntu.com/en/lucid/light-themes
[00:57] <Bash> reisio: Many bad sectors, it can't read/write half of it and many .sfv's give wrong checksums.
[00:57] <Ibis> hunter_: Oh good.
[00:57] <reisio> pangolin: free country :p
[00:57] <BlueProtoman> OK...
[00:58] <stigma_> Ibis: Thanks! Will that auto-update Code::Blocks?  The idea is to gain access to C++11 features/libs.
[00:58] <hunter_> yea i have had ubuntu for like a month now it was my first installed thing
[00:58] <scottamunga> I'll check, I was wanting to replace the default light themes from lucid with the Maverick ones.
[00:58] <BlueProtoman> Anyone here know how I might get Ubuntu on my laptop working?  When I dual-boot it (opposed to Windows 7) via GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor.  I can access recovery mode (aka a shell), though.
[00:58] <scottamunga> Thanks for the link though
[00:59] <mappum> Sorry if it is bad IRC etiquette to ask twice, but:
[00:59] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?
[00:59] <mappum> Sorry if it is bad IRC etiquette to ask twice, but:
[00:59] <mappum> Are there any tools for measuring FLOPS (on all my GPUs + CPU)?
[00:59] <FloodBot1> mappum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:59] <BlueProtoman> I've been at this for days...
[00:59] <ayman> how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[00:59] <ayman> how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[01:00] <ayman> how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[01:00] <Bash> reisio: Looks good. If I just wants to save a single folder (recursively) without any user input, are there any terminal commands
[01:00] <yeats> !repeat | ayman
[01:00] <Bash> Have tried via Nautilus but it's lackluster.
[01:00] <reisio> Bash: cp ?
[01:01] <reisio> Bash: cp path/to/some/dir/ path/to/whereyouwantit/
[01:01] <ayman>  how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[01:01] <hunter_> hey what does blur windows in compiz do?
[01:01] <scottamunga> bugs_bugger I tried googling it, but it seems the webpages with links to Maverick Light Themes for Lucid have been taken down?
[01:01] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?  Blinking cursor?
[01:01] <BlueProtoman> I think the issue might be either graphic drivers or a bad installation.
[01:01] <ayman>  any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[01:01] <stigma_> Hmmm... "sudo apt-get install gcc" reports that the newest version is currently installed.  GNU site says 4.6.1 is "newest".  How can I check the version number on my machine?
[01:01] <reisio> hunter_: http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Blur
[01:01] <reisio> hunter_: appears to be similar to what Windows Aero windows do
[01:02] <reisio> I couldn't tell you who did it first
[01:02] <hunter_> blueprotoman:probubly bad install
[01:02] <yeats> Bash: you could try rsync too ('rsync -av source dest')
[01:02] <reisio> probably someone else entirely
[01:02] <Bwaah> /part/wc
[01:02] <BlueProtoman> hunter_: Mind helping me fix it?  Getting it on the laptop in the first place was an absolute bitch.
[01:02] <bugs_bugger> reisio: it says "Failed to load session gnome-classic". also, changing to another user an logging back in to my account just garbled the x-server o.0
[01:02] <BlueProtoman> I still have the USB drive that I used.  (I used the Universal USB Installer.)
[01:02] <Krenair> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/Ubuntu%2011.04%20panel%20right%20click%20problem.png Ubuntu 11.04. Might be a problem with the theme. Any other ideas/how to fix?
[01:03] <Eearslya> Is there any way to 'mount' an install disc ISO to another partition of a hard drive and install the OS from there?
[01:03] <hunter_> blueprotoman:can you posably make a cd?
[01:03] <bugs_bugger> scottamunga: dunno, have you tried installing light-themes via synaptic?
[01:03] <BlueProtoman> hunter_: Not at the moment, I'd prefer to do it another way.
[01:03] <scottamunga> bugs_bugger, good idea, but I didn't try that.  I assumed it would just be Lucid's version.
[01:03] <reisio> bugs_bugger: you see this? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22failed%20to%20load%20session%22%20%22gnome-classic%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[01:04] <reisio> Eearslya: yup
[01:04] <reisio> Eearslya: want to dual boot?
[01:04] <hunter_> blueprotoman:just sayin cd would be faster considering you can install through boot with cd at startup
[01:04] <D_Russ> i have this strange bug thats forcing me to resize thunderbird before i close it. using natty, i have global menus turned off, i have allow all apps to minmize to sys tray. If i close an app while it is maximized and it goes to the system tray i am not able to grab and move other open maximized windows by grabbing it at the title bar.
[01:04] <ayman>  any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[01:04] <Eearslya> reisio: No. It's just that my computer is having issues and will not boot from CD or USB.
[01:05] <BlueProtoman> hunter_: As can I with USB, right?  My laptop is fairly new, it supports USB booting.
[01:05] <BlueProtoman> Actually, very new.
[01:05] <reisio> Eearslya: so you have one OS on it right now that you want to replace
[01:05] <BlueProtoman> It might have been released this year.
[01:05] <ayman>  any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[01:05] <hunter_> blueprotoman:ok yes is it toshiba by chance?
[01:05] <bugs_bugger> reisio: ok, ill skam through, thanks
[01:05] <ayman>  any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[01:05] <laumonier> Eearslya:  did you have check your bios to boot for the cd or usb?
[01:05] <Eearslya> reisio: Yes. Right now I'm on Ubuntu 11.04. I want to put the 10.04 install ISO on another partition to boot from it and install 10.04.
[01:06] <BlueProtoman> hunter_: No, it's a Samsung QX411-W01.
[01:06] <Eearslya> laumonier: Yes, it -supports- CD and USB booting, but it just doesn't work.
[01:06] <stigma_> I found the answer to my above question.  For anyone else interested: dpkg -s gcc
[01:06] <tanzy_> Would someone mind helping me with a slight issue involving wlan drivers?
[01:06] <hunter_> blueprotoman:are you trying to do a full install or run with windows?
[01:07] <BlueProtoman> hunter_: Dual-boot with Windows 7, but use Ubuntu primarily.  I've already got Ubuntu installed, it just doesn't work properly.
[01:07] <reisio> Eearslya: why don't you just update from 10.04 to 11.04
[01:07] <BlueProtoman> Still got the shell, but no xorg.conf, apparently.
[01:07] <Eearslya> reisio: Other way.
[01:07] <BlueProtoman> That seemed to be the hot topic last night.
[01:07] <reisio> Eearslya: ah :)
[01:07] <reisio> Eearslya: you's backwads! :p
[01:08] <laumonier> Eearslya:  for usb booting did you use ubuntu tool?
[01:08] <hunter_> tanzy:sure what sems to be the issue?
[01:08] <BlueProtoman> hunter_: Oh, and it's all been partitioned, too.
[01:08] <Eearslya> reisio: 10.04 didn't give me as many issues as 11.04 has.
[01:08] <Eearslya> laumonier: You mean wubi?
[01:08] <bugs_bugger> scottamunga: i found this here: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-ubuntu-1010-light-themes-in.html
[01:09] <D_Russ> 11.10 will be out in a couple days
[01:09] <BlueProtoman> hunter_?
[01:09] <milk> hey all, trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.4, getting a "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." message. i /think/ i need to downgrade some packages, but i don't know how to figure out which ones. any advice?
[01:09] <hunter_> blueprotoman:hmm when i installed it on my asus celeron processor computer it worked fine which ubuntu version is it?
[01:09] <GTRsdk> In Natty and Oneiric, when booting , where it would normally show the boot logo, my monitor says "Out of Range". Is there a way to see what resolution is being used?
[01:09] <bkerensa> reisio: I tried the nomodeset but I cant get into grub
[01:10] <tanzy_> hunter_:  I installed ubuntu 10.04.3 and I am unable to get my linksys wusb11 (ver 2.8) to even be recognized by the system
[01:10] <BlueProtoman> hunter_: 11.04, alternate (official) version with different drivers.
[01:10] <laumonier> Eearslya: did you use a tool like unetbootin to make your usb key bootable?if not i adivse you to use this its really a good tool
[01:10] <BlueProtoman> hunter_: Mind if we bring this to PM?
[01:10] <reisio> bkerensa: what do you need to get into grub for
[01:10] <D_Russ> do you guys think its generally a bad idea to do first day upgrade?
[01:10] <D_Russ> well update
[01:10] <reisio> Eearslya: some examples here: http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB
[01:10] <bkerensa> reisio: To fix this venetian blinds nvidia issue
[01:11] <reisio> Eearslya: it might actually be less trouble, though, if you have the free partition space, to install in a VM and copy it over
[01:11] <hunter_> tanzy:i had the same prob with a wireless caard i think he system uses ethernet
[01:11] <reisio> Eearslya: the only issue with that is you'd have to take care to make sure your vital drivers are installed, as the VM will confuse the installer's auto-detection-and-configure stuffo
[01:11] <hunter_> blueprotoman:sure
[01:12] <reisio> bkerensa: does the installed system boot or not?
[01:12] <Eearslya> Well, I have a blank 4.00GB space on my HDD for whatever reason..But I can't seem to format it while Ubuntu is running.
[01:12] <hunter_> blueprotoman:or call me and i can talk  you through it
[01:12] <bkerensa> reisio: It boots but instead of the normal boot splash screen it is black and then upon login it goes to the venetian blinds
[01:12] <tanzy_> hunter_ I am nable to use ethernet. I broght the system over to a friend's house to a wired connection in order to suss the problem and get my wireless working...
[01:12] <scorinitron> I need help trying to install tor
[01:13] <tanzy_> hunter_: unable*
[01:13] <reisio> bkerensa: okay, change to the binary driver
[01:13] <reisio> bkerensa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:13] <Lithos84> scorinitron: What kind of help?
[01:14] <hunter_> tanzy:try reinstalling the system with ethernet plugged in
[01:16] <Eearslya> Real quick, you can access Ubuntu One files from other OS, correct?
[01:16] <Alastair1> yes
[01:16] <Alastair1> one.ubuntu.com
[01:16] <Alastair1> or witha  client. i think there's w indows one. not sure about MacOS
[01:17] <OerHeks> no Kubuntu client :(
[01:17] <Lithos84> !tor | scorinitron
[01:17] <bkerensa> reisio: Thanks :D Its in progress now
[01:18] <hunter_> hey guys
[01:19] <reisio> hey hunter_
[01:20] <hunter_> reisio:you a computer person?
[01:20] <BlueProtoman> Anyone here know how I might get Ubuntu on my laptop working?  When I dual-boot it (opposed to Windows 7) via GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor.  I can access recovery mode (aka a shell), though.
[01:21] <reisio> hunter_: yup, I'm made of circuit boards and the like
[01:21] <iszak> Is 11.10 actually rolled into an iso yet?
[01:21] <yeats> iszak: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <hunter_> reisio: awesome same here im running out of room for my computer stuff
[01:22] <reisio> yeah one time I lost my leg, but I could still ssh into it
[01:22] <GTRsdk> iszak: there are isos, but the release manager will choose the release iso
[01:23] <Lithos84> iszak: http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/
[01:25] <BlueProtoman> Hello?  Anyone?
[01:25] <ubiq2> hey
[01:25] <ayman>  any one .. how to make default session on light dm (gnome3.2 ) by commoan line
[01:25] <ubiq2> lol i have the exact same question ayman :D
[01:25] <GTRsdk> ayman: just choose the session
[01:26] <GTRsdk> then it should automatically rechoose that one
[01:26] <ubiq2> i have a toshiba ac100
[01:26] <hunter_> whats up guys
[01:26] <reisio> GTRsdk: dm is the session manager
[01:27] <GTRsdk> reisio: I use lightdm all of the time and if I choose Ubuntu, it will automatically use Ubuntu. If I choose 2D, then it will automaticall use 2D.
[01:28] <ubiq2> even when autologin in?
[01:28] <reisio> GTRsdk: just hasn't anything to do with what he asked for
[01:28] <Atreus> why am i unable to change the screen birghtness percentage while on battery power though the power management?
[01:29] <GTRsdk> oh. by CLI.
[01:29] <ubiq2> no but i replaced ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop
[01:29] <ubiq2> and had to click through the gui
[01:29] <ubiq2> that sucks :D
[01:29] <little420smoke> hey i need help
[01:30] <ubiq2> yes by cli
[01:30] <hunter_> little420smoke: with what?
[01:30] <little420smoke> hunter i need to remove ubuntu from my computer but it is the only os on the system..... so what do i do
[01:31] <D_Russ> i have this strange bug thats forcing me to resize thunderbird before i close it. using natty, i have global menus turned off, i have allow all apps to minmize to sys tray. If i close an app while it is maximized and it goes to the system tray i am not able to grab and move other open maximized windows by grabbing it at the title bar.
[01:31] <reisio> little420smoke: why do you need to remove it?
[01:31] <ubiq2> lol that was not the question reisio but nice try :)
[01:31] <hunter_> little420smoke:do you have another os your gonna use?
[01:31] <little420smoke> reisio because im selling my comp and getting a new
[01:31] <reisio> ubiq2: hrmm?
[01:32] <reisio> little420smoke: ah
[01:32] <reisio> little420smoke: you can use dd from a live OS
[01:32] <hunter_> technoviking:welcome
[01:32] <little420smoke> can i use thie ubuntu live cd to remove it
[01:32] <hunter_> zylum:welcome
[01:33] <reisio> little420smoke: yes it should have dd
[01:33] <little420smoke> hunter i have to put xp on it
[01:33] <BlueProtoman> Anyone here know how I might get Ubuntu on my laptop working?  When I dual-boot it (opposed to Windows 7) via GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor.  I can access recovery mode (aka a shell), though.
[01:33] <reisio> little420smoke: you could also do a non-fast NTFS format of the entire drive
[01:33] <CSyncope> i installed xmonad and it's making sounds when i open and close tabs in chromium and other things, how do i stop this?
[01:33] <reisio> little420smoke: ah, well if you install XP on it and do a non-quick NTFS format, that will wipe the drive
[01:33] <little420smoke> reisio how would i do that
[01:34] <reisio> little420smoke: it's part of the install process
[01:34] <ubiq2> throw in the xp-cd, don't forget to change the first boot device to CD in BIOS, format the whole drive, install xp
[01:34] <reisio> when the installer boots up it asks about partitioning
[01:34] <reisio> and then it asks about formatting
[01:34] <reisio> just use NTFS, and make sure it isn't the "quick" format
[01:34] <reisio> quick doesn't wipe
[01:34] <little420smoke> when i use the xp disk it only loads the drivers and files then it says that windows has shut dow due to wrong format
[01:35] <hunter_> little420smoke: oh ok this is very simple reisio can also tell you yea simply wipe the drive and install formatting may take time dependin on the hdd size
[01:35] <reisio> sounds like your media is bonkers
[01:35] <ubiq2> or your cd-drive
[01:35] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?  Fixing Ubuntu via CLI?  I wish I could elaborate more on the issue, but...
[01:36] <little420smoke> idk but is there any way of doing it inside ubuntu
[01:36] <hunter_> im not sure ive only formatted one way
[01:36] <alazare619> i got 8 invites to google music beta who wants?
[01:36] <reisio> hrmmm
[01:36] <hunter_> xr: whats up
[01:36] <reisio> spend a week uploading copies of my music to Google's servers
[01:37] <reisio> with no guarantee that they won't delete it
[01:37] <ubiq2> you can't format a mounted/active system partition.
[01:37] <reisio> when I could just set up my own media server
[01:37] <little420smoke> or is there a way thati can format the partitions without the live cd
[01:37] <reisio> little420smoke: you can format it as NTFS from the Ubuntu live CD
[01:37] <ubiq2> but there are partition managers of course... gparted f.ex.
[01:37] <reisio> little420smoke: but that won't guarantee that your XP install image will load properly
[01:38] <little420smoke> well i have xp and win 7 ult
[01:38] <ubiq2> burned or original copies?
[01:38] <little420smoke> and idk where my ubuntu disk is
[01:38] <hunter_> you may want to win 7 ult
[01:38] <reisio> little420smoke: either will work, assuming you don't mind either OS being installed
[01:39] <little420smoke> win 7 is burned and xp is original
[01:39] <reisio> and assuming the media actually loads properly :p
[01:39] <reisio> little420smoke: all you have to remember is to do a full, non-quick NTFS format during install
[01:39] <little420smoke> it wont give me the option to format it tho
[01:40] <reisio> one time I caught my friend doing a non-quick NTFS format on a(n empty) 2TB disc :p
[01:40] <ubiq2> yea because your medium is probably corrupted or your cd-drive
[01:40] <ubiq2> test that
[01:40] <reisio> it was taking him ages, poor fellow
[01:40] <pac1> grub is complaining that lvm physical volumes are not found.  What could cause that?
[01:40] <reisio> little420smoke: it should, that's a standard part of the install process
[01:40] <little420smoke> it doesent go that far
[01:41] <little420smoke> or would it be easer to use a different hadr drive
[01:41] <ubiq2> 420smoke: try & error
[01:42] <little420smoke> ok well thank you all for the help and i will see what i can do with that... and i should be back on my new comp in a day or two. so thanks
[01:43] <ubiq2> good luck
[01:43] <hunter_> no prob
[01:43] <little420smoke> ty
[01:43] <little420smoke> i will let u guys know what happens
[01:43] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?  Able to help me with my problem?  Anyone here know how I might get Ubuntu on my laptop working?  When I dual-boot it (opposed to Windows 7) via GRUB, I only get a blinking cursor.  I can access recovery mode (aka a shell), though.
[01:44] <BlueProtoman> test
[01:44] <ubiq2> BlueProtoman: maybe "startx" from the shell and post error  messages, don't really know about that
[01:45] <BlueProtoman> ubiq2: startx command not found
[01:45] <ubiq2> k
[01:45] <almoxarife> BlueProtoman: how did you install ubuntu?
[01:45] <BlueProtoman> almoxarife: Via a flash drive with the Universal USB Installer.
[01:45] <ubiq2> i bet out of windows
[01:46] <BlueProtoman> No, not Wubi.
[01:46] <ubiq2> okay
[01:46] <BlueProtoman> I know that it's inadequate.
[01:46] <BlueProtoman> Though I admittedly almost used it.  :P
[01:46] <almoxarife> BlueProtoman: when you start up the machine what comes up? grub or winchooser
[01:47] <BlueProtoman> almoxarife: GRUB.  Remember that Ubuntu is already installed.
[01:47] <almoxarife> BlueProtoman: and you still have the usb installer?
[01:48] <BlueProtoman> almoxarife: I stil have the drive with Ubuntu on it, yes.
[01:48] <ubiq2> do you have any unnecessary usb-devices plugged in?
[01:48] <BlueProtoman> ubiq2: No.
[01:48] <ubiq2> okay
[01:49] <BlueProtoman> Just the flash drive in question.
[01:49] <BlueProtoman> But I can remove it.
[01:49] <hunter_> hey
[01:50] <almoxarife> BlueProtoman: what you will need to do then is re-install grub, via a rescue disk/usb, yours may be just that, especially if it was the 'alternate' version
[01:50] <BlueProtoman> almoxarife: What do you mean, exactly?  I don't quite understand.
[01:53] <knapolian> knapolian wishes to join
[01:53] <rhizmoe> so, what are we calling this new flip-out scroll thumb?
[01:53] <reisio> I call it tommy
[01:54] <ubiq2> almoxarife: you could reinstall grub from live-cd, don't know if that would be the best choice
[01:54] <knapolian> wygenius, are you from Wyoming?
[01:56] <SetiAmon> I keep getting failed to download from repositor message
[01:56] <SetiAmon> is everyone getting this?
[01:56] <SetiAmon> W:Failed to fetch http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/<Natty>/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 86.59.30.36 80]
[01:56] <SetiAmon> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/<Natty>/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[01:56] <FloodBot1> SetiAmon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <Pici> SetiAmon: Why do you have <Natty> in there? it should just be natty
[01:57] <SetiAmon> Weird
[01:57] <SetiAmon> let me check
[02:00] <SetiAmon> it seems to be related to other party software.tor and libcre i thought it was main repos
[02:01] <hunter_> how do i write wih fire in compiz?
[02:02] <fructose> Can anyone recommend a method for me to get a remote connection to my mother's Windows 7 Home (not Pro, so no rdesktop) from Ubuntu 11.04? I tried gitso, but it fails during install
[02:03] <almoxarife> fructose: chrome/chromium?
[02:04] <fructose> almoxarife: Those are web browsers
[02:04] <cgc17> almoxarife: you can remote desktop w/ chrome/chromium?
[02:04] <reisio> fructose: teamviewer
[02:04] <almoxarife> cgc17: yes you can, fructose
[02:04] <ubiq2> nice info
[02:04] <knapolian> wygenius, you still in the room?
[02:04] <fructose> almoxarife: Yes you can what?
[02:05] <almoxarife> fructose: you can remote desktop with chrome/chromium
[02:05] <cgc17> almoxarife, that is pretty cool. how do you do it?
[02:05] <fructose> almoxarife: I'm pretty sure that's not a feature built into the browser, so you'll have to elaborate
[02:05] <almoxarife> cgc17: there is a new app , google it, its in the google store, free
[02:05] <ti-prgmr> Hey! I know you guys get this a lot, but seriously thanks so much for doing this whole project.
[02:05] <almoxarife> fructose: I am sure it is, I have used it
[02:06] <fructose> almostroot: If it's in any store, then it's definitely not built in
[02:06] <almoxarife> Chrome Remote Desktop BETA › Connect
[02:07] <Brad87> Yo whats shakin
[02:07] <ubiq2> i will definately check this out
[02:07] <Brad87> My penis is sore
[02:07] <fructose> almoxarife: That's an extension, but yes, that might help
[02:08] <Brad87> is this the channel where i can get some help for that?
[02:08] <almoxarife> fructose: not an extension, and it will remote desktop
[02:08] <reisio> Brad87: doesn't sound like it's quite in the scope
[02:08] <nightwalk> fructose: there's also ultravnc + openssh (google 'openssh win32' - it should be the first or second link)
[02:08] <Brad87> i tried # sorepenis but it was empty
[02:08] <ubiq2> sudo heal penis
[02:09] <reisio> fructose: teamviewer, no install, go forth
[02:09] <fructose> reisio: Yeah, just always skeptical of such companies
[02:10] <dhasenan_> Brad87, you may have to enable the 'venereal' ppa.
[02:10] <sprung> Hi. I believe I inadvertently uninstalled the package which logs to /var/log/messages because I wanted to install sar, which required sysstat, which I think removed whatever syslog utility I had. I'm using Natty Narwhal, what's the package I need to install to get it back?
[02:10] <cgc17> is it possible to run an application from the terminal and have the terminal hide itself?
[02:10] <Guest25773> can i use chkconfig on ubuntu to make something as a service?
[02:10] <knapolian> I have a paid for license for Teamviewer as a support tech... It's a great tool.
[02:11] <reisio> sprung: what command did you run
[02:11] <almoxarife> sprung: the one you un-installed
[02:11] <PatrickC> what is the most lightweight (in size) text editor that compares to sublime text 2?
[02:11] <reisio> cgc17: what for?  What app?
[02:11] <qin> PatrickC: gvim, kate
[02:11] <knapolian> I use it on ubuntu workstation to connect to Windows servers, workstations, other linux workstations.
[02:12] <PatrickC> qin: thx
[02:12] <almoxarife> cgc17: alt f2?
[02:12] <reisio> PatrickC: it won't be gVim
[02:12] <Brad87> FUCK
[02:12] <Brad87> SHIT
[02:12] <Brad87> FUCK
[02:12] <FloodBot1> Brad87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:12] <qin> !ops
[02:12] <reisio> Brad87: no more Carlin for you
[02:12] <cgc17> reisio, as an example I ran this instance of XChat through the terminal and now I can't close the terminal
[02:13] <almoxarife> cgc17: kill the terminal
[02:13] <PatrickC> reisio: what would it be?
[02:13] <fructose> almoxarife: Google calls it an 'app', but it's contact is extensions@chromium.org and you have to "Add to Chrome". So it's far from built-in and it's commonly called an extension (see Google search results)
[02:13] <reisio> PatrickC: not sure
[02:13] <xpress> reisio
[02:13] <PatrickC> wow. kate is out. 244MB
[02:13] <almoxarife> fructose: glad to help, have a nice dat
[02:13] <almoxarife> day
[02:13] <xpress> can u help me :D ?
[02:14] <reisio> PatrickC: Kate is a KDE app =P
[02:14] <reisio> xpress: hi
[02:14] <xpress> hi =)
[02:14] <PatrickC> reisio: lol
[02:14] <xpress> am
[02:14] <xpress> reisio
[02:14] <PatrickC> I'm looking for a lightweight in size text editor that would be good for a coder
[02:14] <xpress> how can i write to you ^
[02:14] <reisio> xpress: that's my name
[02:14] <reisio> xpress: like that?
[02:14] <xpress> ^^
[02:14] <xpress> yes
[02:14] <reisio> PatrickC: but you're used to sublime text?
[02:15] <PatrickC> yep
[02:15] <qin> PatrickC: kate need KDE, hence 244MB, gvim have gnome support, but you need few moment to comprehend and absorb its power.
[02:15] <reisio> PatrickC: you know it's available for Linux, right?
[02:15] <PatrickC> I can't get sublime to launch on this device
[02:15] <xpress> reisio: ^^
[02:15] <cgc17> almoxarife, killing the terminal closed my XChat session as well
[02:15] <almoxarife> fructose: didn't say it was built in, but I did say you would need chrome, you asked a question I offered a suggestion avail to a ubuntu user
[02:15] <reisio> xpress: hi
[02:15] <ti-prgmr> what about using geany? or is it to heavy?
[02:15] <PatrickC> I'm running ubuntu on my TouchPad in a chroot
[02:15] <SIFTU> PatrickC: what about just plain old vim
[02:15] <PatrickC> SIFTU: I never liked vim.. idk why
[02:15] <xpress> well ? :D can u help me ?
[02:15] <sprung> reisio, almoxarife if it were that easy I wouldn't be in this channel. this happened several months ago, and I am only now realizing that /var/log/messages is empty
[02:15] <reisio> PatrickC: because you're a GUI person
[02:16] <SIFTU> PatrickC: well ok, but it's highly configurable
[02:16] <PatrickC> yep
[02:16] <reisio> sprung: ah
[02:16] <qin> cgc17: Run xchat, Ctrl-z, detach %1, voila.
[02:16] <almoxarife> cgc17: it would
[02:16] <reisio> qin: detach?
[02:16] <PatrickC> gedit will work
[02:16] <PatrickC> thx
[02:16] <SIFTU> PatrickC: all the gui ones have lots of dependancies
[02:17] <SIFTU> PatrickC: leafpad is lighter if you just want a plain old text editor
[02:17] <qin> reisio: hm?
[02:17] <PatrickC> gedit is light enough
[02:17] <almoxarife> I am a GUI person, if I wanted it difficult I would homestead in alaska
[02:17] <reisio> cgc17: ALT+F2 is the run dialog
[02:17] <PatrickC> I want something that would be good for a coder
[02:17] <qin> reisio: disown, damn aliases ;)
[02:17] <PatrickC> I develop apps/build websites :)
[02:17] <reisio> qin: ah :)
[02:17] <qin> cgc17: /detach/disown/
[02:18] <reisio> qin: that doesn't freeze the process?
[02:18] <SIFTU> reisio: what about launching xchat like "xchat &"
[02:18] <reisio> well he can just use ALT+F2
[02:18] <qin> reisio: More complex, yes, may crash xchat.
[02:19] <cgc17> reisio, Alt+F2 will work.
[02:19] <xpress> reisio will u help me or not ^^?
[02:19] <reisio> for when you really need to free up a term, there's dupx or reptyr
[02:19] <reisio> xpress: what's up?
[02:20] <xpress> well
[02:20] <xpress> listen
[02:20] <ubiq2> hey. listen.
[02:20] <almoxarife> reisio: I like terminator, I use it in a ssh x11 session now, I can open terms till the cows come in
[02:20] <qin> PatrickC: Finding right tool to work, mean (often) to learn how to use it. Knowing vim will help you to work remotly.
[02:21] <reisio> almoxarife: yeah, but that's foresight in action :)
[02:21] <almoxarife> reisio: the next best thing to gui
[02:21] <reisio> too bad terminator doesn't use screen transparently, too
[02:21] <xpress> i have installed ubuntu i was having windows 7 =) so.. the problem is that the wi-fi connection under windows 7 was normal but here under ubuntu a times it just stops and i have to exit from the wi-fi and enter again .. so do you know how to fix it =) ?
[02:22] <reisio> xpress: update the driver
[02:22] <xpress> how :D '
[02:22] <illmortal> anyone know if there's a timer plug-in for gucview? Need a webcam application for my Logitech Web Cam Pro 9000 that has a built in timer to snap a picture
[02:22] <xpress> ?¿
[02:22] <PatrickC> qin: work remotely?
[02:22] <almoxarife> reisio: transparency?
[02:22] <reisio> ently
[02:22] <almoxarife> reisio: explain
[02:22] <qin> PatrickC: on webserver via ssh (for instant fixes i.e.)
[02:23] <reisio> illmortal: sleep or at in a terminal would do it
[02:23] <xpress> reisio: i said that i am new on linux :P
[02:23] <reisio> xpress: oh
[02:23] <reisio> xpress: what's the device?
[02:23] <PatrickC> qin: really? hmm..
[02:23] <PatrickC> I might try vim
[02:23] <xpress> reisio: i really dont have a idea ^^
[02:23] <xpress> reisio: how to look it ? =)
[02:23] <reisio> Vim just takes some learning to really exploit it
[02:23] <reisio> not a lot to just be able to use it for maintenance, though
[02:24] <qin> PatrickC: Hint: zencoding is must have plugin for html, css.
[02:24] <reisio> xpress: you could try opening a terminal and running 'sudo lspci -k', then look for the device name and possibly driver name
[02:24] <dhasenan_> I've got a problem that I kinda solved...video card (nVidia) crashing rather often, to the point where restarting X does nothing.
[02:24] <illmortal> reisio: in a terminal? o.O;
[02:24] <PatrickC> qin: what about JS? any recommendation for that?
[02:24] <ubiq2> lol
[02:24] <dhasenan_> Disabling frequency scaling makes it more stable.
[02:24] <reisio> illmortal: heh
[02:25] <dhasenan_> Curious if there's a better solution.
[02:25] <illmortal> you mean use the terminal as my camera application?
[02:25] <illmortal> reisio ^
[02:25] <qin> PatrickC: Not on time with javascript, check vim plugins, there is for sure one for json/jquery.
[02:25] <xpress> reisio:	Kernel modules: tg3
[02:25] <xpress> 08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[02:25] <xpress> 	Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device e034
[02:25] <xpress> 	Kernel driver in use: ath9k
[02:25] <xpress> 	Kernel modules: ath9k
[02:25] <FloodBot1> xpress: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <xpress> ... ^^
[02:26] <almoxarife> Foxconn are evil doers
[02:26] <xpress> reisio: u saw that ? :D
[02:27] <reisio> xpress: yeah
[02:27] <xpress> reisio: and how to do it ^
[02:28] <PatrickC> qin: vim is cmd line?
[02:28] <reisio> PatrickC: yes
[02:28] <reisio> there's a GUI, gVim
[02:28] <qin> PatrickC: vim, yes. gvim is "enriched" for gui.
[02:28] <reisio> but it's actually less useful in the GUI form :p
[02:28] <reisio> because you can't quickly drop to a terminal
[02:28] <PatrickC> lol
[02:29] <reisio> it'll hit you one day :)
[02:29] <xpress> reisio: what i do ? ^^
[02:29] <reisio> xpress: what's your kernel version?
[02:29] <Ibis> xpress: uname -r
[02:30] <xpress> ath9k
[02:30] <xpress> aa
[02:30] <xpress> w8 ^^
[02:30] <xpress> 2.6.38-11-generic
[02:30] <reisio> you could try using madwifi instead of ath9k
[02:31] <xpress> sec
[02:31] <xpress> how to get it ?
[02:31] <xpress> apt-get ?
[02:32] <reisio> that's a good question
[02:32] <ahattar> hi, my sound on the laptop does not work Lenovo x61, Ubuntu 10.4
[02:32] <PatrickC> well, vim in cmd line is confusing :P
[02:32] <xpress> :D you dont know ? :D
[02:32] <xpress> ahattar: i had the same problem with the sound
[02:33] <reisio> xpress: presumably like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi#Compile_Newer_Driver
[02:33] <ahattar> xpress How to fix it
[02:33] <Jordan_U> PatrickC: "vimtutor" is a great way to learn.
[02:33] <xpress> sec
[02:33] <almoxarife> ahattar: stopped working or never worked?
[02:33] <Singham> PatrickC : Ucan also use nano ...Its simple to use it.
[02:33] <ahattar> never worked
[02:34] <xpress> ahattar: just install alsamixer and set you internal mic =)
[02:34] <PatrickC> Singham: I've used nano before
[02:34] <PatrickC> its nice
[02:34] <xpress> reisio: now i get this with wget no ?
[02:34] <almoxarife> ahattar: new install?
[02:34] <ubiq2> xpress: yes
[02:35] <reisio> xpress: it has instructions on the page
[02:35] <PatrickC> I don't have an esc key.. that'll put a damper on things
[02:35] <xpress> reisio: u're great man =)
[02:35] <xpress> ubiq2: you too :D
[02:36] <ubiq2> :) i had the same problem and madwifi fixd it
[02:37] <xpress> thanks man
[02:37] <xpress> =)
[02:37] <xpress> i hope
[02:37] <xpress> that it will fix and mine too
[02:37] <qin> PatrickC: Ctrl-[
[02:38] <xpress> ahattar: well is it works ?
[02:38] <xangua> reisio: xpress madwidi is deprecated
[02:38] <PatrickC> qin: for?
[02:38] <qin> PatrickC: Insdead of Esc
[02:38] <BryGuy71> what channel is the ubuntu general chat?
[02:38] <PatrickC> really? cool!
[02:38] <qin> *instead
[02:39] <BryGuy71> and how do i switch chanels from here again?
[02:39] <qin> BryGuy71: /join #ubuntu-offtopic , What client are you using?
[02:39] <somsip> PatrickC: other popular choice to map is ;;
[02:39] <ubiq2> BryGuy: depends on what program you're using?
[02:39] <caotic> hey im  getting a dmesg wlan0: deauthenticating by local choice every time i try to connect to my wifi AP. Anyone know how can I fix this ? I havent found a solid solution yet
[02:40] <ahattar> installed gnome-alsamixer and the sound still not working
[02:40] <jdanna> is there any way to change the aspect of a touchpad? on my dell mini9 it seems to move the mouse much faster horizontally then vertically and its making me insane
[02:40] <reisio> xangua: lots of things are
[02:41] <SIFTU> PatrickC: javascript for vim http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1491
[02:41] <elad> if an untrusted domain keeps trying to send mail through my mailserver what are some things that I can check to see if they have been successful in sending mail with my server?
[02:41] <PatrickC> SIFTU: I'm sticking with gedit... vim doesn't look as easy as I want :)
[02:41] <SIFTU> PatrickC: isnt gedit about as advanced as notepad?
[02:42] <reisio> lightyears more advanced
[02:42] <reisio> not saying much, though
[02:42] <qin> SIFTU: No, it has tabs.
[02:42] <PatrickC> SIFTU: it has tabs
[02:42] <PatrickC> and syntax highlighting
[02:42] <SIFTU> lol ok tabs
[02:42] <reisio> it's a real text editor
[02:42] <ubiq2> dat tabs :)
[02:42] <reisio> not in Vim's class, but still
[02:42] <Shirakawasuna> SIFTU: Did you know that gedit has tabs?
[02:42] <somsip> PatrickC: got to say, I used gedit for casual editing, and qin recommended gvim to me. I was okay with vi on cli. Many things are incredibly useful, but some things are still awkward after 3 weeks. It seems worth persevering with, to me, for the advantages
[02:42] <goldenfox> hello everyone
[02:42] <Rafalski> hey guys.. so i'm running ubuntu 8.04 on the server.. what's the best way to upgrading to the latest production ready release?
[02:42] <ubiq2> hey there
[02:43] <reisio> hi goldenfox
[02:43] <SIFTU> Shirakawasuna: i think i heard somewhere it might have tabs
[02:43] <kdp> I am having a bit of trouble rotating my consoles, and I hope that you folks might be able to point me in the right direction. I have physically rotated my display into portrait mode, and have adjusted X to rotate the display correctly, but boot messages and all TTYs are still in their original orientation. I have tried passing fbcon=rotate:3 on boot, and have tried writing "3" to /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate[_all] to no effect. Any ideas? I think fbcon is ena
[02:43] <PatrickC> somsip: is it really that goos?
[02:43] <PatrickC> good*
[02:43] <xpress> reisio: is it wrong if i skip sudo make with sudo make install :D couse i did it and i dont know if this will make any defects on the program ?
[02:43] <somsip> PatrickC: navigation, searching, jumping around lines...really, really useful. I use Netbeans and added the Vim plugin for that.
[02:43] <Shirakawasuna> something that *is* basically notepad is mousepad
[02:43] <reisio> xpress: wrong :)
[02:43] <qin> Rafalski: Only 10.04 Lts
[02:43] <PatrickC> I'll give it a try
[02:44] <xpress> reisio: so how can i fix it ?
[02:44] <Rafalski> qin: what's the best way of upgrading?
[02:44] <SIFTU> Shirakawasuna: and leafpad
[02:44] <reisio> xpress: just go back and do it all in the right order this time
[02:44] <PatrickC> somsip: does the tutor really help?
[02:44] <xpress> reisio: ok thanks
[02:44] <qin> Rafalski: Do you have do-release-upgrade ?
[02:44] <somsip> PatrickC: but if you have background, it may feel weird. I'm undoing 30 years of habits, including a very bad typing style. So maybe it will come easier for you.
[02:44] <Rafalski> qin: not sure, a linux noob here
[02:44] <reisio> PatrickC: yeah it's okay
[02:45] <somsip> PatrickC: I am running through it regularly until I don't have to think about the commands. Still can't do search replace easily though...
[02:45] <reisio> PatrickC: but to not have to use the mouse will take quite a fair amount of time educating yourself
[02:45] <PatrickC> hmm.. ok
[02:45] <reisio> worth it, though
[02:45] <PatrickC> yeah.. using it on a touchscreen.. worth it?
[02:45] <kdp> PatrickC: I think the best way to learn a new editor is to force yourself to use. For everything.
[02:45] <SIFTU> somsip: did you run through vimtutor
[02:45] <PatrickC> its a HP TouchPad
[02:45] <reisio> see #vim's /topic
[02:45] <somsip> SIFTU: a number of times
[02:45] <qin> Rafalski: Is it your own system or vps?
[02:46] <Rafalski> qin: own, got root to it
[02:46] <goldenfox> i would like to ask here if openprinting.org website is working on your side?
[02:46] <reisio> http://isup.me/openprinting.org
[02:46] <SIFTU> somsip: yeah I guess it takes some getting used to, but it's so widely used I can go anywhere I know I have it. unlike the GUI editors
[02:46] <qin> Rafalski: I mean, are you sitting next to it?
[02:46] <somsip> goldenfox: down for maintenance here
[02:46] <Rafalski> qin: no
[02:46] <goldenfox> thanks, reisio
[02:46] <goldenfox> thanks somsip
[02:47] <reisio> not sure it was ever up :p
[02:47] <reisio> goldenfox: looking for something?
[02:47] <goldenfox> anybody here had grab the foomatic-4.0.6 from openprinting?
[02:47] <somsip> SIFTU: I've been able to use it for years, but not really *use it*, IYSWIM.
[02:47] <reisio> goldenfox: which foomatic?
[02:47] <Untitled_only> I'm having problems with unity
[02:48] <Untitled_only> it really sucks
[02:48] <ubiq2> Untitled_only: which probs?
[02:48] <reisio> don't use it
[02:48] <qin> Rafalski: If you run it on own hardware: do-release-upgrade, if not, contact your provider to upgrade image.
[02:48] <PatrickC> Untitled_only: in the beginning, at the login screen, select ubuntu clasic
[02:48] <Untitled_only> it wont load when I downloaded it
[02:49] <xpress> reisio: root@xpress:/usr/src/madwifi-ng# wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta ..wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device
[02:49] <goldenfox> reisio, foomatic-rip 4.0.6.dmg
[02:49] <xpress> reisio: :S
[02:49] <PatrickC> Untitled_only: don't download it
[02:49] <Untitled_only> I just un-installed it
[02:49] <reisio> rip?
[02:49] <reisio> that's a new one to me
[02:50] <kdp> Untitled_only: So, are you having difficulty running Unity? If so, please provide more information about the issue you are experiencing.
[02:50] <reisio> goldenfox: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/macosxfoomatic
[02:50] <goldenfox> yup the rip one
[02:50] <xpress> reisio: please that is the ultimate question ^^
[02:51] <xpress> reisiot: root@xpress:/usr/src/madwifi-ng# wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
[02:51] <xpress> wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device
[02:51] <Untitled_only> well I tried to run it on my notebook, which has a nvida graphic card
[02:51] <reisio> xpress: probably referring to 'ath0' or 'wifi0'
[02:51] <goldenfox> thanks for the help reisio, it looks like the site is down
[02:51] <Untitled_only> cairo dock works way better... tho
[02:52] <goldenfox> need to find another copy from other sources
[02:52] <BryGuy71> qin i am using xchat, and i forget everything about how to use irc
[02:52] <reisio> goldenfox: oh it's a redirect, ha
[02:52] <reisio> goldenfox: http://web.archive.org/web/20110615232938/http://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/macosx/foomatic-rip-4.0.6.230.dmg
[02:52] <xpress> reisio: noo :/ the problem is (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device)
[02:53] <reisio> xpress: I saw
[02:53] <xpress> and how i fic it
[02:53] <xpress> ^^
[02:53] <xpress> fix*
[02:53] <BryGuy71> i put in the code / join ubuntu - off topic
[02:53] <BryGuy71> but without the spaces
[02:53] <BryGuy71> nothing happened
[02:53] <reisio> xpress: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7775312&postcount=3
[02:53] <qin> BryGuy71: /help and there is #xchat on freenode. /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <kdp> BryGuy71: don't forget the #
[02:53] <ubiq2> BryGuy: "#"
[02:54] <BryGuy71> thanks
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[02:54] <BryGuy71> got it
[02:54] <goldenfox> omg, you hit the jackpot reisio
[02:54] <goldenfox> how did you do that?
[02:54] <BryGuy71> dont want to annoy or troll here
[02:54] <PatrickC> well, thanks for all the help guys!
[02:54] <BryGuy71> i have alot of user ex[erience with ubuntu, and understand the annoyances
[02:54] <reisio> goldenfox: magick
[02:55] <goldenfox> thanks again, reisio. I never imagined archive.org will copy the installers too =)
[02:55] <BryGuy71> ty kdp
[02:55] <reisio> goldenfox: :D
[02:55] <reisio> goldenfox: I'm sure it's available elsewhere as well
[02:56] <Islam> where can I find the files for my installed programs like pidgin ?
[02:56] <qin> BryGuy71: Dont you want to use irssi, instead of xchat?
[02:56] <reisio> Islam: dpkg -L pidgin
[02:56] <goldenfox> reisio: yeah but google is out of answers
[02:56] <kdp> irssi all the way!
[02:56] <ubiq2> irssi!
[02:56] <xpress> reisio: i cant fix it :/... can u explain please :S
[02:56] <ubiq2> the best
[02:56] <reisio> goldenfox: yeah the Mac OS copies do seem to be unpopular
[02:56] <qin> Islam: dpkg -L pigdin
[02:56] <xgpt> hello, quiick question, what's the package name that provides the functionality that gives the "this package isn't installed, install with apt-get packagename to install" ?
[02:57] <xgpt> dialog
[02:57] <reisio> wasn't there a simpler way to send '/foo' in irssi than /exec -out echo '/foo' ?
[02:57] <kdp> So, any ideas, folks? I am pretty stumped here. I suppose I don't /need/ to use the TTYs, but since my display is permanently rotated I would like to rotate those things as well.
[02:57] <qin> reisio:  /foo
[02:58] <kdp> \/foo
[02:58] <kdp> hmm
[02:58] <kdp>  /foo
[02:58] <kdp> Ha! space in front.
[02:58] <FloodBot1> kdp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <Islam> I want to add it to the startup programs, n I dont know what to type in the command tap
[02:58] <Islam> the pidgin
[02:58] <reisio> qin: no, not /foo, but:
[02:58] <reisio> /foo
[02:59] <Islam> what command should I use to add pidgin to the startup programs ?
[02:59] <qin> /foo
[03:00] <Islam> I'm opening the startup programs but I done know what to type in the command tap
[03:00] <reisio> goldenfox: is it for an HP?
[03:01] <qin> /foo
[03:01] <qin> reisio: /msg #ubuntu /foo
[03:01] <reisio> ah
[03:01] <reisio> thanks :D
[03:02] <xpress> reisio: can u help me for last mann :S
[03:03] <reisio> for what?
[03:03] <xpress> reisio: wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device
[03:03] <xpress> ;(
[03:03] <thenickperson> Can someone please help me out with an audio issue?
[03:03] <reisio> thenickperson: uhuh
[03:03] <bastidrazor> Islam: /usr/bin/pidgin  is the normal path for pidgin
[03:03] <reisio> xpress: did you see the forum post I linked to?
[03:04] <xpress> reisio: yes but i dont understand :D
[03:04] <kdp> Islam: maybe /usr/local/bin/pidgin. You would do best to use `which pidgin` to get the path
[03:04] <Islam> I'm opening the startup programs and I wanna add pidgin to the startup programs, n its asking me for the command
[03:04] <xpress> reisio: i said i use linux from 1 day :P so ...
[03:04] <thenickperson> reisio: My system's audio in Ubuntu had weird issues before, and at one point wouldn't play audio at all. After updating sound software, that problem is solved now, but whenever I plug in headphones (anything into the audio out), audio plays though both my headphones and my speakers. How can I make it just play via my headphones if they're plugged in?
[03:05] <kdp> Islam: open a terminal; type `which pidgin`; enter the path into the Startup Programs dialog.
[03:05] <xangua> Islam: the command is pidgin
[03:05] <reisio> xpress: grep -ilr madwifi /etc/ | sort | uniq
[03:05] <xpress> and later ?
[03:05] <reisio> thenickperson: laptop?
[03:06] <thenickperson> reisio: Yes.
[03:06] <aamit1> hey  guys I was just here yesterday with a question about installing lamp on my laptop and now I'm having some problems running some really plain php file here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/706440/, and when I open it (or run it since I'm doing it in netbeans) there's no output
[03:06] <fullmetal> aamit1: are you running it from http://localhost ?
[03:07] <aamit1> fullmetal: I'm not entirely sure what you mean - the file path is localhost/something/something/index1.php
[03:07] <xpress> reisio: and later show this --> root@xpress:/usr/src/madwifi-ng# grep -ilr madwifi /etc/ | sort | uniq
[03:07] <xpress> grep: /etc/blkid.tab: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[03:07] <xpress> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[03:07] <xpress> /etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh
[03:08] <xpress> :/
[03:08] <xpress> balgari ima li ?
[03:08] <aamit1> fullmetal: I can get stuff like echo "String" or echo $variable (with variable being some variable) to output, but if I were to do something like print ("String") again I get nothing
[03:08] <aamit1> fullmetal: something to do with not recognizing return values or something?
[03:08] <fullmetal> aamit1: what i mean is php scripts only run when on a server. you have to access it like it is from a server. jsut running the local file will not execute it.
[03:09] <fullmetal> ok
[03:09] <xpress> reisio: ... :/
[03:09] <thenickperson> reisio: Do you kno what I could try to do to fix it?
[03:09] <fullmetal> so you have a working php test page
[03:09] <fullmetal> ?
[03:09] <reisio> fullmetal: actually there are ways to run php as an ordinary script
[03:09] <reisio> but yeah it might not work as intended
[03:09] <aamit1> fullmetal: if I just echo "Hello World" that displays...
[03:09] <fullmetal> aamit1: ok
[03:10] <flynn> Ubuntu 10.10 freezes literally every other time I start up.
[03:10] <reisio> thenickperson: you probably just need to feed ALSA a more specific "model"
[03:10] <reisio> thenickperson: what model is it?
[03:10] <thenickperson> reisio: What, my Laptop?
[03:10] <aamit1> fullmetal: so I'm not entirely sure what's going wrong here...
[03:10] <reisio> thenickperson: yeah
[03:10] <fullmetal> aamit1: can you do a pastebin of your non-working file?
[03:10] <Islam> thanx guys, its /usr/bin/pidgin
[03:10] <aamit1> fullmetal: same as earlier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/706440/
[03:11] <fullmetal> was not on... checking
[03:11] <thenickperson> reisio: http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/emachines-e627-5019-athlon/1707-3121_7-33893704.html
[03:11] <nbest>  Hello.  How can I get ubuntu to confirm file delete??
[03:11] <thenickperson> reisio: eMachines E627
[03:11] <xpress> reisio: man can u help me ?
[03:11] <thenickperson> nbest: In RM?
[03:11] <nbest>  i have lucid
[03:11] <qin> nbest: rm -iv
[03:11] <thenickperson> nbest: Or nautilus, the file browser?
[03:11] <nbest>  i don't know what rm is
[03:11] <nbest>   the file browser
[03:11] <thenickperson> nbest: Are you asking for how to do this on the command line or desktop?
[03:12] <thenickperson> nbest: Oh, okay
[03:12] <nbest>   the easiest way thenickperson
[03:12] <thenickperson> nbest: Ubuntu should move files to the trash before deleting them. Just look for files int he trash if you want to recover them. Is that what you wanted?
[03:12] <fullmetal> aamit1: try it as just a php page... does it execute?
[03:12] <thenickperson> nbest: Or do you want it to confirm if you want to empty the trash?
[03:13] <aamit1> fullmetal: you mean just remove the html tags and reopen it?
[03:13] <fullmetal> yep
[03:13] <fullmetal> but with the .php extension
[03:13] <nbest>  yes i know i can search for them in the trash but i'd rather not have to search the trash all the time for files i didn't even know i accidentally deleted , i'd rather have a confirm file delete, much rather :P
[03:13] <reisio> thenickperson: what does sudo lspci | grep -i audio say the device is
[03:13] <fullmetal> just an idea but it may be because your calling a variable and not inserting it into a string
[03:13] <RootsBabilonia> hello guys
[03:14] <reisio> hi
[03:14] <aamit1> fullmetal: when I open a file with these contents - http://paste.ubuntu.com/706444/
[03:14] <qin> nbest: After: Shift-Del there is prompt, by default, Del alone send files to wastebasket
[03:14] <Lithos84> RootsBabilonia: Hello.
[03:14] <aamit1> fullmetal: it only shows the Hello World
[03:14] <jdanna> is there a way to make the gnome panels not cover full screen programs?
[03:14] <aamit1> fullmetal: ignore the garbage strings on top and bottom the pastebin complained about php
[03:14] <thenickperson>  reisio: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[03:14] <fullmetal> no rename the .html file to .php and clear the html tags
[03:14] <xpress> reisio: man please ... ?
[03:14] <reisio> xpress: please what?
[03:15] <aamit1> fullmetal: it already is a .php file with no html tags?
[03:15] <nbest>   qin , yes i know but i'd rather pressing delete opens up a confirm dialog, because i may send files to the garbage bin without being aware, the delete key is close to the up arrow
[03:15] <fullmetal> then you should not be getting a hello world from a time call functino
[03:15] <fullmetal> function*
[03:16] <reisio> thenickperson: here read through this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[03:16] <nbest>   i dont' always want to be having to check the garbage bin just in case i accidentally sent files there , i wish i could have a way that pressing delete would open up a confirm file delete dialog
[03:16] <RootsBabilonia> someone speak portugues?
[03:16] <reisio> thenickperson: you probably just need the right model= value
[03:16] <xpress> reisio :  you said to put this (grep -ilr madwifi /etc/ | sort | uniq) and show me this (grep: /etc/blkid.tab: No existe el fichero o el directorio) ...
[03:16] <RootsBabilonia> algum brasileiro aqui?
[03:16] <aamit1> fullmetal: well I had 2 print statements - hello world and the second one with longdate(time())
[03:16] <xpress> yo :P
[03:16] <reisio> RootsBabilonia: #ubuntu-br, #ubuntu-pt
[03:16] <xpress> pero si sabes español mejor :D
[03:16] <thenickperson> reisio: Thanks!
[03:17] <aamit1> fullmetal: when I open index.php file with these contents - http://paste.ubuntu.com/706447/ still only get "hello world" displayed
[03:17] <fullmetal> aamit1: pm me
[03:17] <RootsBabilonia> si te comprendo!
[03:17] <qin> nbest: No such feature in options, you could point it on brainstorm, as you have valid point.
[03:17] <RootsBabilonia> heheh
[03:17] <reisio> aeoueaouaeou
[03:17] <xpress> :D :P
[03:17] <Lithos84> !br | RootsBabilonia
[03:17] <thenickperson> reisio: What part of this guide should I be looking at exactly?
[03:17] <xpress> no le escuches ! :D
[03:17] <RootsBabilonia> muito obrigado BOT amigo!!!
[03:17] <reisio> thenickperson: reading it all won't hurt :p
[03:17] <RootsBabilonia> ;)
[03:18] <xpress> aa :D
[03:18] <nbest>  qin  yea, i've googled this before asking and i've seen a few mentions of it there, but no solutions yet, since many posts were years old , i was hoping they have done that by now :(  thanks for resonding though
[03:18] <reisio> thenickperson: but the important part is going to be editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to have something like 'options snd-hda-intel model=HD-Audio', etc.
[03:18] <xpress> RootsBabilonia: tio sabes como ajustar el puto madwifi .. ?
[03:19] <qin> nbest: Propably changing keybinding is only way for now.
[03:19] <nbest>  oh , interesting thought, thanks :)
[03:20] <xpress> reisio: will u help to the man who dont know nothing about linux :S ?
[03:20] <reisio> I've gtg, someone else will help you out
[03:20] <xpress> who ? :S
[03:20] <ryannathans> ikonia: was I speaking to you the other day?
[03:21] <xpress> who can help me ?
[03:21] <xpress> please ?
[03:21] <ryannathans> whachu need
[03:21] <xpress> man i try to install madwifi
[03:21] <xpress> and
[03:21] <xpress> shows me wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device
[03:22] <ryannathans> xpress: what driver do you need from em?
[03:22] <xpress> dont have a idea ... how to look ?
[03:23] <ryannathans> xpress: what's your initial problem to want to install this?
[03:23] <xpress> aa :D
[03:23] <xpress> sry for my english w8
[03:23] <ubiq2> xpress: im sure you could fix it yourself. learn command line basics and google google google. i fixed this problem without irc-help and learned alot about linux. just saying
[03:23] <xpress> wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev mon0 wlanmode sta
[03:23] <xpress> ok =)
[03:23] <xpress> but how to look if my net is not working ? =) just saying..
[03:24] <ubiq2> but how to irc when net not working? =)
[03:25] <xpress> i have to click exit and go to the network again between 1 min =) ...
[03:25] <ubiq2> ok that sucks
[03:25] <ryannathans> I've got this damn raid array from an adaptec 3805 I can't get anything linux installed to
[03:25] <xpress> :/
[03:25] <ryannathans> just comes up as unformatted and doesn't partition, windows loved it tho'
[03:26] <xpress> ubiq2: can you help ?
[03:26] <ryannathans> oh, I have been trying to   modprobe aacraid  but that doesn't seem to get me anywhere
[03:27] <xpress> uf .. :D i dont understand neither a word :D ... pf
[03:27] <ubiq2> probably. you could give me the link reisio gave to you.
[03:27] <xpress> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7775312&postcount=3
[03:27] <xpress> sure =)
[03:29] <xpress> ubiq2: well ? ^^
[03:29] <ectabyte> I'm having this pretty annoying problem whenever I press the super key with another key(like B) it just disables that key and I can't press it without using the super or shift key
[03:30] <ectabyte> is this having to do with keybinds or something?
[03:30] <flynn> Ubuntu 10.10 freezes literally every other time I start up.  No other symptoms.  just that.
[03:31] <xpress> and i cant install madwifi ... :D ..
[03:31] <fullmetal> xpress: what you trying to do with mad wifi?
[03:31] <xpress> sec
[03:31] <dayana_em> hi guyz, i have translation for empathy in .po format . but don't know how to install it
[03:31] <ubiq2> xpress: do you have 2 wifi devices?
[03:31] <xpress> yes
[03:31] <xpress> fullmetal:wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wlan0 wlanmode sta
[03:31] <eiriksvin> hey guys, remember earlier when I asked how to connect my ps3 to my computer, well I did it: you use an IPv4 Shared Connection
[03:31] <xpress> i mean
[03:32] <xpress> sec
[03:32] <eiriksvin> it's right in the connection options
[03:32] <ubiq2> xpress: so the command could be wlan1 not wlan0
[03:32] <xpress> wlan0
[03:32] <xpress> ok i will check
[03:33] <RenaKunisaki> how to check installed versions of GTK and WX?
[03:33] <xpress> man
[03:33] <eiriksvin> sweet, now I'm pulling wifi with my PC and sharing the connection with my PS3s
[03:33] <xpress> ubiq2 where i have to put wlan0 ^^
[03:34] <jaidan> Hey all, I'm trying to upgrade a vps from karmic to natty and I ran into an error while running dist-upgrade and I'm not sure what to do about it: http://pastebin.com/cXmA96Ng
[03:35] <xpress> is there anybody who can help me ? :/
[03:35] <daanish> Hey, guys. I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 using Wubi without a seperate partition. Can anyone tell me how to browse to the Windows files?
[03:35] <eiriksvin> xpress: what are trying to do?
[03:35] <xpress> eiriksvin: installing madwifi
[03:37] <xpress> eiriksvin: and when i have to put (wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta) shows me this (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device)
[03:37] <eiriksvin> xpress: sorry, I didn't use madwifi... I set my usb wifi dongle to run native
[03:37] <xpress> ah ok ^^
[03:37] <xpress> ..
[03:37] <ubiq2> xpress: i don't know which commands you've been executing but wlan0 could be your internal wlan chip and wlan1 an external wifi-stick. that means that you are reffering to the wrong device with specific commands.
[03:37] <xpress> man i wrong
[03:37] <xpress> i have only
[03:37] <xpress> whan0
[03:38] <xpress> wlan0
[03:38] <eiriksvin> is your wifi usb?
[03:38] <xpress> no
[03:38] <xpress> is internal
[03:38] <ubiq2> ooh ok ;)
[03:39] <xpress> so can u help me ? :D
[03:39] <fullmetal> 8-ball: can anyone help xpress
[03:39] <fullmetal> A question please.
[03:40] <eiriksvin> xpress: open a terminal and type ifconfig that will tell you where your internal wifi is
[03:40] <eiriksvin> it should be wlan0
[03:41] <xpress> i have
[03:41] <xpress> wlan0 , lo , eth0
[03:41] <xpress> but internal .. :S
[03:41] <ubiq2> eiriksvin: he wants to replace ath9k with madwifi.
[03:42] <ryannathans> driver isn't loaded
[03:42] <xpress> what i have to do ^^
[03:43] <eiriksvin> madwifi has a bunch of tuts for it, try to take a look... I'd help you but idk the details of athero chipsets sorry
[03:44] <xpress> ok thanks .. =)
[03:44] <eiriksvin> I don't want to be a jerk, but youtube and google are a Linux users ally
[03:44] <eiriksvin> god I hate it when people tell me that
[03:45] <xpress> :D ..
[03:45] <jaidan> Hey all, I'm trying to upgrade a vps from karmic to natty and I ran into an error while running dist-upgrade and I'm not sure what to do about it: http://pastebin.com/cXmA96Ng....and I have googled it =)
[03:45] <eiriksvin> wifi and graphics cards are the linux devils
[03:45] <binaryarts> ok i made my own spinnoff of ubuntu and i want a program to start on boot, how do i do that? PS there no /etc/innittab and my program is in /usr/bin/advancedbrowser
[03:47] <ubiq2> xpress: check out wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/madwifi
[03:47] <binaryarts> ?
[03:48] <eiriksvin> To all that are frustrated and needing help: sometime it takes time, but I have always found the answers I needed right in here... right time right place I guess
[03:48] <cypha> ubuntu won't start
[03:48] <ryannathans> UBUNTU WONT INSTALL
[03:48] <daanish> o_o
[03:48] <eiriksvin> cypha: how was it installed?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !caps | ryannathans
[03:48] <cypha> I basically put my rc.local back to it's default
[03:48] <daanish> Ok, is the bumblebee project dead or something?
[03:49] <ryannathans> !* | ryannathans
[03:49] <cypha> and now it won't start
[03:49] <cypha> after i restarted
[03:49] <binaryarts> quote "	ok i made my own spinnoff of ubuntu and i want a program to start on boot, how do i do that? PS there no /etc/innittab and my program is in /usr/bin/advancedbrowser"
[03:49] <Atreus> why am i unable to change the screen birghtness percentage while on battery power though the power management?
[03:49] <ryannathans> the noobs that use all caps and are very blunt get all the help
[03:49] <daanish> Is the bumblebee project dead?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> !noob | ryannathans
[03:50] <daanish> Is the bumblebee project dead?
[03:50]  * ryannathans sets mode +bbq ryannathans
[03:50] <cypha> dr_willis, around?
[03:50] <jaidan> I figure (based on the fact that google turns up nothing but an unanswered irc log) that my issue must be pretty rare lol
[03:50] <eiriksvin> take it easy guys
[03:51] <Jordan_U> ryannathans: And no, they don't. I, being a volunteer, am put off by any attempts to try to game the system.
[03:51] <qin> daanish: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee , rather not.
[03:51] <binaryarts> this pace is too full of n00bs
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[03:51] <FloodBot1> binaryarts: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <cypha> wtf's going on
[03:52] <beta0x64> jaidan, I honestly have no clue.
[03:52] <daanish> qin : but it says there's two new projects - Ironhide and the "new" Bumblee-project . . . and I added the ppa to the new project but it can't find any ''bumblebee'' package when I apt-get install.
[03:52] <qin> daanish: sudo apt-get update
[03:53] <jaidan> beta0x64: Either do I...never really ran into too many issues with apt (that I didn't cause).  So the fact that's it's just blowing up on some random package has left me lost
[03:53] <daanish> qin: holy crap, that worked.. do I need to install nvidia drivers before I install bumblebee or after?
[03:53] <ryannathans> we can all me mad together
[03:53] <qin> daanish: Me, ati.
[03:53] <beta0x64> jaidan, I mean... are you doing anything funky with the keyboard? I really have no clue, I've never done a vps
[03:54] <jaidan> beta0x64: I don't think so.  I mean it's just like any other server
[03:54] <DouglasK> when I try to do a showmount <server IP>, I get "clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered".  I have reinstalled nfs-common, portmap and nfs-kernel-server
[03:54] <wina> sdsdhkjsah
[03:55] <jaidan> It has a crap load of stuff installed because it's the box I use for development so it has a lot of experiments....but messing with keyboard configs nope
[03:55] <beta0x64> jaidan, I mean obviously dpkg is trying to unpack a keyboard config .deb file but it is running into a problem overwriting console-setup
[03:55] <xpress> ubiq2: look man xpress@xpress:~/.source$ wlanconfig ath0
[03:55] <xpress> [status not implemented (yet). Spawning iwconfig...]
[03:55] <xpress> ath0      No such device
[03:56] <cypha> If someone could troubleshoot why Ubuntu won't start anymore via TeamViewer, I'd be more than happy to buy them a 6-pack's worth on paypal
[03:56] <DouglasK> Or, is there a better channel to ask about nfs mount issues in?
[03:56] <johzephine> hey, i think i'm having issues with my wireless and wpa connections.  I get "bad password" regardless of whether or not the password is right.  I've tried removing / purging / etc network manager several times but it fixes things.  Help?
[03:56] <jaidan> beta0x64: Any idea what I might google for or do to work around that type of issue (not specifically keyboard I guess).  I don't know enough about dpkg to really understand what I need to do to resolve the conflict
[03:57] <beta0x64> jaidan, you should google a good medication for your headache. I've no clue what to do. I feel like messing with console-setup is, like, uh, a bad idea :)
[03:57] <Lithos84> DouglasK: Have you tried #nfs ?
[03:57] <beta0x64> My guess is that it's some kind of permissions issue
[03:57] <DouglasK> Lithos84, no ... but I will now, thanks or the thought.
[03:58] <ubiq2> xpress: sry i will leave in a few minutes. it's 6 am here in germany. you will solve it sooner or later. i believe in you man :)
[03:58] <jaidan> beta0x64: lolol thanks, I'm a developer my desk comes equipped with lots of medications for headaches lol
[03:58] <beta0x64> jaidan, could it be time to grab everything of value and burn it down? :(
[03:59] <qin> daanish: You right, ironhide is more acctual.
[03:59] <daanish> is anyone here running bumblebee for optimus?
[03:59] <scorinitron> What do I do when I can't access the windows portion of my drive
[03:59] <jaidan> beta0x64: that would be ALOT.  We're talking mongodb's, mysqldb's, postgresdb's,  50 or so source repos
[04:00] <Lithos84> !details | scorinitron
[04:00] <beta0x64> jaidan, fudgesicles. um. see, you should make sure you have a backup before upgrading like this imo
[04:00] <xpress> its 6 here too :D
[04:00] <xpress> ...
[04:00] <daanish> anyone running bumblee for optimus?
[04:00] <Matt_> Hi
[04:00] <Matt_> I'm buying a new pc
[04:00] <Matt_> and need your suggestions
[04:00] <jaidan> beta0x64: well nothing has actually broken yet...and nothing is really unreplaceable, just would take a day or two of lost billable hours which would suck
[04:01] <Matt_> should i type the specs here?
[04:01] <jaidan> it's a dev box not a production one
[04:01] <ryannathans> Matt_: pastebin
[04:01] <scorinitron> I made the mistake of installing ubuntu 10.04 on top of windows7 on a 500 GB drive. I went to the bar where I could determine how much space I wanted which os to occupy in GB
[04:01] <mrmcgibby2> Matt_ just ask your question
[04:01] <daanish> is anyone running bumblebee for optimus?
[04:01] <Jordan_U> Matt_: There are many companies that sell computers with Ubunut pre-installed.
[04:01] <scorinitron> and well I completed the installation but now grub won't run windows
[04:01] <scorinitron> not to mention grub is the only thing that shows up
[04:01] <ryannathans> Jordan_U: not availible in countires such as mine, or it's more viable to build your own
[04:02] <zmbmartin> I have an hp envy laptop with beats audio or whatever. My problem is the subwoofer is on when I have headphones plugged in. Any idea how to turn that off?
[04:02] <beta0x64> jaidan, backups are usually before it breaks. but regardless of how often you backup your development environment... you could try installing keyboard-configuration_1.57ubuntu20_all.deb manually
[04:02] <beta0x64> then maybe you will have a more specific error. or not. if it works though, maybe the updater will skip it?
[04:02] <beta0x64> jaidan, we are really in the dark here lol
[04:02] <scorinitron> I try to go to the windows loader 7 option and it starts off as windows but goes into ubuntu...now I have no idea how to reinstall windows since it won't auto boot when the disc is in...
[04:02] <mrmcgibby2> How do you get ubuntu to keep the console resolution that I set?  I see some stuff in the correct resolution but then it always switches back to 640x480 or something.
[04:03] <scorinitron> plz help T_T
[04:03] <ryannathans> scorinitron: is windows partition still there
[04:03] <scorinitron> ryannathans, I'm not sure I guess it technically is
[04:03] <Blue1> i am getting weird flash problems on 64 bit ubuntu (10.10) - 64 bit chrome and 64 bit flash - works great on youtube and facebook - not so on sites like cbs.com (no issues with site on 32 bit system) suggestions?
[04:03] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | scorinitron
[04:04] <Matt_> Thanks guys<
[04:04] <Matt_> here is my pc specs http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt
[04:04] <ryannathans> what raid solution works on BOTH windows and linux
[04:04] <scorinitron> Srry guys it's like my 2nd day using IRC I'm a total linux noob
[04:04] <Jordan_U> mrmcgibby2: How are you setting the console resolution? Are you using proprietary graphics drivers?
[04:04] <daanish> is anyone running bumblebee for optimus?
[04:04] <beta0x64> scorinitron, it's a learning experience
[04:05] <ryannathans> Matt_: looks fine, just have both windoze and linux on same hdd
[04:05] <mrmcgibby2> I'm currently using GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX in /etc/default/grub
[04:05] <beta0x64> scorinitron, I'm a developer who has been using linux based OSes for 4 years now, and I'm still a noob
[04:05] <scorinitron> ^^
[04:05] <scorinitron> I just want to know what's what so at the very least I can get as good with terminal as I am with DOS
[04:06] <scorinitron> I'm 17 if that matters? lol
[04:06] <Matt_> ryannathans: but windows7 first then ubuntu? or ubuntu first then win7?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> scorinitron: Have you done anything so far other than install Ubuntu using the automatic partitioning option?
[04:06] <scorinitron> WIN7 first of course
[04:07] <beta0x64> Matt_, Windows 7 must be installed first because as a rule, Windows is greedy.
[04:07] <scorinitron> I made that mistake once
[04:07] <Matt_> I'm buying a new custom pc, here is my pc specs http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt What everybody advice.
[04:07] <daanish> is anyone running bumblebee for optimus?
[04:07] <ryannathans> Matt_: win7 first
[04:07] <Matt_> ryannathans thanks,  is configuration good?
[04:08] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, um not really...I was learning about tor and socks
[04:08] <scorinitron> XD
[04:08] <jaidan> beta0x64: no dice =( same error when trying to install it directly.  I was hopeful
[04:08] <daanish> damn nvidia optimus >_______<
[04:08] <Matt_> Hey everyone, please take a look at my specs, and suggest me http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt
[04:08] <ryannathans> Matt_: build is okay depending on ram and video card
[04:08] <Jordan_U> scorinitron: Do you understand the instructions ubottu linked you to for running boot info script?
[04:09] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, let me take a look
[04:09] <Matt_> ryannathans: but 4gb ddr3 ram is good right?
[04:09] <paulus68> Matt_: you can also install ubuntu and use W7 in virtualbox
[04:09] <scorinitron> yeah
[04:09] <daanish> qin: How do I run bumblebee? I just installed it but I don't see it in the applications?
[04:09] <beta0x64> jaidan, I am thinking, let's follow these instructions. they look well and official https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[04:09] <daanish> qin: is bumblee cli only?
[04:09] <PsyCl0ne> Hi all
[04:10] <xpress> hi =)
[04:10] <Lithos84> PsyCl0ne: Hello.
[04:10] <xpress> can u help me ^^ ?
[04:10] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, yeah I do...I did a little work with the terminal but as far as I can tell I just downlaod the zip and input the commands
[04:10] <jaidan> beta0x64: let me take a look
[04:10] <ryannathans> Matt_: it's average today
[04:10] <ryannathans> Matt_: I have 8gb, but i run lots of stuff, 4gb is fine
[04:11] <ryannathans> gaming, working, etc
[04:11] <xpress> so can anybody helps ? :D
[04:11] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, I am a little familier with the terminal I have been using ubuntu for like 5 months but I just now tried to reinstall and dual boot windows 7 today
[04:11] <phlak_user> ryannathans: just out of curiosity, did you manage to install Ubuntu on your beast?
[04:11] <daanish> it is >_<
[04:11] <Matt_> ryannathans: my current pc is 2gb ram, 160gb hd, dual core processor,
[04:11] <Lithos84> !anyone | xpress
[04:12] <zmbmartin> Is there a way for me to tell if the headphones are plugged in or not on my laptop?
[04:12] <Jordan_U> scorinitron: There is no zip file involved. Please follow the instructions and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that boot info script produces so that I can understand your exact configuration and help you get Windows booting again.
[04:12] <PsyCl0ne> Guys I have a netbook (Acer D02553). Last week I got Lubuntu installed on it, also installed the restricted extras so I could watch youtube videos but now I can not adjust my volume... If I click the speaker icon in my task bar it says that no audio devices were found or that there are dependancies missing from gstreamer. But if I sudo apt-get check GStreamer it checks out. what am I doing wrong??
[04:12] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | scorinitron
[04:12] <ryannathans> phlak_user: no
[04:12] <ryannathans> phlak_user: it just finds my raid card as unpartitioned and can't partition it
[04:13] <ryannathans> phlak_user: i tried to   modprobe aacraid   but that did nothing
[04:13] <xpress> thanks bot =)
[04:13] <xpress> i am afk :P
[04:13] <ryannathans> phlak_user: i  don't know what to do anymore
[04:13] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, ubottu, thanks guys I'll get right to it
[04:13] <xpress> ( i mean ubottu and lithos84) ^^
[04:13] <ryannathans> Matt_: surely is a step up themn
[04:13] <ryannathans> Matt_: i5s are great
[04:13] <Matt_> ryannathans: i'm no way playing games and stuff, it is just for work. video & audio, So please everyone, take a look at this specs for final time and let me know if i should go ahead and purchase it, http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt ?
[04:13] <Jordan_U> scorinitron: You're welcome (though ubottu is a bot :).
[04:14] <Matt_> ryannathans: thanks, what is your current config?
[04:14] <thorn_> window rendering is glitching badly on this system with 500 MB RAM, any suggestions?
[04:14] <beta0x64> thorn_, xfce? or terminal only
[04:14] <tacomaster> hello i am trying to make iwconfig not ask for a password with sudo so i went to visudo in command line and typed "%sudo ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/iwconfig" but then i run it again and i get asked for a password?
[04:15] <ryannathans> Matt_: my current config is overkill
[04:15] <ryannathans> Matt_: well, not for what i do
[04:15] <ryannathans> Matt_: for you it is ;)
[04:15] <jaidan> beta0x64: lol any opinion on the likelyhood of this to trash my system: http://pastebin.com/zxg5yL8h
[04:15] <thorn_> beta0x64: I don't know, what's glitching is gnome terminal right now
[04:17] <Matt_> anybody else, please take a look at my question
[04:17] <gyg> greetings
[04:17] <Matt_> i'm no way playing games and stuff, it is just for work. video & audio, So please everyone, take a look at this specs for final time and let me know if i should go ahead and purchase it, http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt ?
[04:17] <gyg> anyone there to help compile a program on natty narwahkll?
[04:17] <thorn_> beta0x64: any suggestions?
[04:17] <beta0x64> jaidan, those seem like extremely important packages ...
[04:17] <Matt_> i will not bother you guys after this
[04:17] <beta0x64> I am looking up what console_setup does exactly
[04:17] <Jordan_U> jaidan: Try just running do not allow that. Try just "sudo apt-get -f install".
[04:18] <jaidan> Jordan_U: been trying that, that was step one
[04:18] <somsip> Matt_: what was your original question?
[04:18] <beta0x64> jaidan, I wouldn't remove them basically
[04:18] <tacomaster> gyg: if you need to manually compile a program make sure there are no ./config then make then sudo make install
[04:18] <jaidan> beta0x64: That was kinda my thought
[04:18] <Matt_> somsip: i'm no way playing games and stuff, it is just for work. video & audio, So please everyone, take a look at this specs for final time and let me know if i should go ahead and purchase it, http://pastebin.com/VXp9xPxt ?
[04:19] <jaidan> beta0x64: unfortunatly apt-get is now convinced it wants to remove those packages and nothing I tell it will change it's mind
[04:19] <somsip> Matt_: I would help, but that quesiton is a "how long's a piece of string" question. no answer makes sense outside of the context of your personal situation
[04:19] <vanquish349> is there a way i can boot up my computer to make it show grub
[04:20] <thorn_> Matt_: I think you'd be fine to install Ubuntu and run W7 in a virtual machine with those specs. That's what I would do if I were you. What do you need W7 for once a week?
[04:20] <Jordan_U> Matt_: None of those pieces of hardware are areas where you're likely to have issues with Ubuntu. Problem areas are generally Wireless, graphics card, sometimes sound card, and maybe others I'm forgetting.
[04:20] <gyg> could someone please help me to compile a program on 11.4
[04:20] <tacomaster> vanquish349: hit tab wile booting up
[04:20] <gyg> im trying to compile OneSwarm
[04:20] <vanquish349> thanks
[04:20] <tacomaster> gyg: if you will read up i already explained how to manually compile a program
[04:21] <Lithos84> Matt_: I think it is more than enough. Remember to install Windows first, or install it on a virtual machine.
[04:21] <thorn_> Matt_: don't dual boot. Use a virtual machine. That way you can access W7 without having to shut down.
[04:22] <Jordan_U> Matt_: I wouldn't buy anything without trying it with an Ubuntu LiveCD first if at all possible. Or checking the hardware compatability list (though just because something is not on the list does not neccessarily mean it's not going to work).
[04:22] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, I got the results.txt file
[04:22] <Jordan_U> !hcl | Matt_
[04:22] <beta0x64> jaidan how are you? jesus
[04:22] <gyg> tacomaster: thank you very much.i have already extracted the archive
[04:22] <thorn_> beta0x64: did you get my question?
[04:22] <tacomaster> gyg: ok? then "make" then "sudo make install"
[04:22] <Jordan_U> scorinitron: Please proide a link to its contents with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[04:22] <vanquish349> wierd it didnt work
[04:22] <Matt_> thorn_ > W7 for  http://sourceforge.net/projects/emailsender/ & Creating PSD
[04:22] <jaidan> beta0x64: all this because wanting to try out neo4j and decided that was a good reason to get off this old distro lol
[04:23] <tacomaster> vanquish349: start pushing tab once you see the bios screen
[04:23] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/BRa5ZL21
[04:23] <thorn_> psd?
[04:23] <tacomaster> vanquish349: it goes by really fast
[04:23] <thorn_> photoshop files?
[04:23] <beta0x64> jaidan, can you reinstall the files ?
[04:23] <gyg> tacomaster: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop
[04:23] <Jordan_U> vanquish349: tacomaster: Hold shift to see the grub menu. Pressing tab will do nothing.
[04:24] <Matt_> So should i buy it?
[04:24] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, dang it >_> I forgot it's my dad's comp not mine....
[04:24] <jaidan> beta0x64: I didn't remove them, it looks like it wants to remove them because one of the commands in that guide removed the keyboard thing that was causing issues before
[04:24] <Jordan_U> Matt_: Like I already said, you haven't provided enough information.
[04:24] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, all I would have to do is repeat the same steps and send you the link right?
[04:24] <beta0x64> yes it did
[04:24] <Jordan_U> scorinitron: Yes.
[04:24] <jaidan> beta0x64: those packages depend on it so now it wants them gone.  I tried reinstalling the keyboard thing, but no dice same overwriting error
[04:24] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, alright give me a sec
[04:25] <vanquish349> Jordan_U: i will try that thanks
[04:25] <thorn_> Matt_: I wouldn't.
[04:25] <vanquish349> 50 time i have restarted my computer
[04:25] <Matt_> thorn_ > why not?
[04:25] <Jordan_U> vanquish349: You're welcome.
[04:25] <cypha> can someone help me troubleshoot why Ubuntu is not starting?
[04:25] <cypha> I have ALL my work on there
[04:25] <thorn_> I'd get more memory so I could have more comfort with my virtual machine
[04:25] <beta0x64> jaidan, I believe it tries to remove packages that aren't needed any longer. they were used as dependencies according to apt-get
[04:26] <cypha> I would REALLY appreciate some help!
[04:26] <vanquish349> i think shift worked
[04:26] <beta0x64> jaidan, run man then hit /autoremove enter and then hit n
[04:26] <Jordan_U> cypha: What happens when you try to boot?
[04:26] <cypha> Jordan_U: http://i.imgur.com/KvsZC.png
[04:26] <thorn_> and a nvidia video card would probably help me a bit...
[04:26] <cypha> Jordan_U, the last thing I did was uninstall the package that setxkbmap is in from synaptic
[04:26] <jaidan> beta0x64: I'm considering trying to force the .deb to install
[04:27] <cypha> and I removed the lines regarding "setxkbmap -option" that I had added to rc.local
[04:27] <jaidan> beta0x64: by using --force-overwrite
[04:27] <cypha> because somehow, even though I had commented the line out in rc.local, the mapping wouldn't go away
[04:28] <cypha> which is why I uninstalled it + removed the line (which was anyway alreayd commented out) in rc.local
[04:28] <cypha> Jordan_U ^^
[04:28] <beta0x64> jaidan try it. that sounds good.
[04:29] <Jordan_U> cypha: You should have noticed that removing x11-xkb-utils also removed all of xorg and anything that depends on it.
[04:29] <cypha> oh
[04:29] <cypha> wow
[04:29] <cypha> Jordan_U, what can I do now?
[04:29] <jaidan> beta0x64: and...apt-get no longer wants to remove the world
[04:29] <cypha> I'm in the recovery console or whatever, at the command line
[04:29] <cypha> I have internet access
[04:29] <beta0x64> jaidan, try your upgrade
[04:29] <jaidan> beta0x64: and.... it looks like dist-upgrade will complete now
[04:29] <Jordan_U> cypha: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <cypha> Jordan_U, should I just sudo aptitude install that package?
[04:30] <cypha> Jordan_U, I had removed the whole ubuntu-desktop???
[04:30] <cypha> holy crap that's retarded
[04:30] <jaidan> beta0x64: still doesn't mean that something isn't horribly broken so I guess it would be a good idea to back up the anything I really wouldn't want to try to recover
[04:30] <jaidan> lol
[04:31] <jaidan> fun night, teach me to decide it's a good time for a dist-upgrade
[04:31] <Jordan_U> cypha: Please don't use "retarded" as a derogatory term.
[04:32] <thorn_> sudo goodbye!!!
[04:32] <daanish> I just installed 11.04 using Wubi on my Windows partition.. how do I browse to the windows files and stuff?
[04:32] <Jordan_U> cypha: You did basically remove the entire GUI, but don't be confused into thinking that removing "ubuntu-desktop" removes the entire desktop, it doesn't. (installing it however will re-install all packages that are installed in a default install of Ubuntu).
[04:33] <daanish> I just installed 11.04 using Wubi on my Windows partition.. how do I browse to the windows files and stuff?
[04:33] <Jordan_U> daanish: Please don't repeat so quickly. You didn't even leave any time for anyone to respond.
[04:33] <daanish> Jordan_U: Sorry >_<
[04:34] <scorinitron> How do you activate the zoom feature in ubunut
[04:34] <scorinitron> my dad's display is only showing half of the screen
[04:34] <mroland> hello everyone!
[04:34] <scorinitron> and I need to get to resolution settings but can't see anything
[04:34] <Jordan_U> daanish: Your Windows files are accessible via "/host/" or from nautilus the "host" directory in "Filesystem".
[04:35] <daanish> Jordan_U: Oh, wow, thanks. Much appreciated!
[04:35] <Jordan_U> daanish: You're welcome :)
[04:35] <mroland> <--- complete newbie here.  Can anyone help me figure out how to get my resolution to work?  Assistance would be greatly appreciated!
[04:36] <daanish> mroland Did you try going to System >> Administration?
[04:36] <daanish> That's using the classic interface, not unity
[04:36] <daanish> In unity, just click at the icon on the top left, and search for things like "Screen," "resolution," "nvidia," "monitor."
[04:37] <cypha> Jordan_U, YOU GENIOUS
[04:37] <mroland> I believe I'm using classic
[04:37] <cypha> worked
[04:37] <mroland> @ the top left: Applications
[04:37] <daanish> mroland: yes, that is classic
[04:37] <cypha> Jordan_U, followup question...how can I get setxkbmap to stop switching ctrl and capslock?
[04:37] <mroland> in system >> administration there isn't anything about screens or displays
[04:38] <gr33n7007h> and windowz was my idea...
[04:38] <daanish> Mroland: Ok, look in System >> Preferences
[04:38] <daanish> mroland:  There is "Monitors," in there..
[04:38] <mroland> right, I get 'monitors'
[04:38] <mroland> but my screen resolution is 1336x768
[04:38] <mroland> macbook air 11inch ;)
[04:38] <daanish> mine is 1366 x 768
[04:38] <daanish> samsung
[04:39] <mroland> that would be perfect!  how did you set it up?
[04:39] <daanish> um, I actually didn't do much at all to be honest, I just fresh installed ubuntu like 15 minutes ago.. all I did was install nvidia drivers..
[04:39] <jmcantrell> if i wanted to launch the default unity session in my xsession script, how would i do that?
[04:40] <cypha> Jordan_U?
[04:40] <mroland> I wish it were that easy.  Problem is with the macbook air really.  Integrated Video Card
[04:40] <daanish> mroland: yes, apple and their proprietary hardware can be a pain to deal with at times.
[04:40] <jaidan> beta0x64: thanks for your bud =)  looking good so far now
[04:41] <daanish> mroland: but it used to be similar for PCs' not too long ago.. I remember a time where every partition had to be manually mounted and SATA was actually causing boot errors in the good ol' ubuntu 6 days..
[04:41] <mroland> I'm definitely paying the 'apple tax' indirectly.  Just trying to learn some Ruby on Shoes.  Linux was more open.
[04:41] <daanish> mroland: have you tried googling "mac air 11 ubuntu 11.04"?
[04:41] <mroland> daanish: funny thing..I have not :D
[04:41] <daanish> mroland: there are a lot of good tutorials on the internet concerning specific laptop makes that go through how to set your laptop up for best performance under ubuntu
[04:42] <mroland> daanish: time to go hunting.  Thanks for your solid efforts though!
[04:42] <daanish> mroland: Oh yes, programming on linux is much fun!
[04:42] <daanish> mroland: Not a problem, good luck! =]
[04:42] <mroland> daanish: do you program as well?
[04:42] <daanish> mroland: Not much, I just picked up a bit of Python recently, and I'm learning Java in school.
[04:43] <daanish> mroland: I have had bouts with lua but it was just scripts for a program, nothing that substantial.
[04:43] <mroland> daanish: awesome!  Where do you go to school?  For computer science?
[04:43] <daanish> mroland: I'm actually an international student at the community college of philadelphia at the moment.. I'm considering my options for transferring to a 4 year.
[04:44] <mroland> daanish: that's great!  I actually never finished my undergrad.  Went to film school - go figure
[04:44] <daanish> mroland: Steve Jobs always said to 'not settle,' until you find what you love!
[04:45] <cypha> can someone help me get ubuntu to stop switchin ctrl and capslock????
[04:45] <mroland> daanish:  I'm all about that.  "Your life is limited, so don't waste it by trying to live someone else's life.  Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish."
[04:45] <daanish> cypha: that is extremely odd.. not to be a douche, but have you tried googling it?
[04:45] <cypha> daanish, yeah
[04:45] <daanish> mroland: Indeed! =D
[04:45] <cypha> and everyone just wants to switch them
[04:46] <cypha> i see no one with issues of unswitching them
[04:46] <daanish> mroland: It was sad because I read that speech at stanford like 2 days before he passed away.. I was just starting to appreciate the man. The tech world has suffered a huge loss.
[04:46] <daanish> cypha: figure out how to switch them, see if that'll work.
[04:46] <mroland> daanish: but through his death, he's sparked inspiration on a massive level.
[04:47] <cypha> daanish, I can switch it at the commandline with "setxkbmap -option"
[04:47] <cypha> but if I put that in rc.local, it does nothing
[04:47] <cypha> anything regading setxkbmap I put in rc.local seems to do noething
[04:47] <daanish> cypha: that is extremely odd.. do the changes exist when you re-open rc.local
[04:47] <daanish> ?
[04:48] <cypha> yes
[04:48] <cypha> i'm editing with priviledges
[04:48] <daanish> cypha: I'm sorry, I'm stumped. o_o
[04:48] <cypha> even if I put "firefox" in rc.local, it doesn't execute firefox on start
[04:48] <cypha> any idea why that might be?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> cypha: xkbmap by default modifies preferences of the X display it was run from. In the case of rc.local, there is no DISPLAY associated with the command.
[04:49] <daanish> cypha: Oh, I think I read something somewhere about rc.local not being the file that's read at startup anymore..
[04:49] <msi> so how come ubuntu 11.04 wouldnt install automaticly on my windows 7 pc. it set up the partitions perfectly but wouldnt install. i tried 3 times
[04:49] <daanish> cypha: maybe Jordan_U can help you out more, he seems to know what he's talking about.
[04:49] <Jordan_U> cypha: Never put firefox in rc.local again. Anything run from rc.local is run as root, which can be very bad.
[04:49] <daanish> msi: is the iso file fine?
[04:50] <msi> yes, i downloaded .iso file several times 64-bit version
[04:50] <mrkrrtft> ok, who can help with 11.04 and nvidia issues?
[04:50] <mroland> daanish: I'll be back on later.  I'm going to try my luck with another install with 'nomodeset' as a parameter
[04:50] <cypha> Jordan_U, but initially, to make the capslock/ctrl switch stay btwn reboots, I put the "setxkbmap -option ctrl:capsswap" or whatever line in there
[04:50] <cypha> and it worked
[04:50] <mrkrrtft> i've been struggling for about a week to get X to work with 11.04 and the nividia chip on my dell e6400
[04:51] <cypha> it actually did make sure it was like that after any restart
[04:51] <daanish> mroland: okie doke, good luck!
[04:51] <cypha> just that I can't undo it now
[04:51] <cypha> and, btw, I only put firefox to test if rc.local was working
[04:51] <Jordan_U> cypha: Whatever the reason, never put an application not intended to be run as root (most) in rc.local.
[04:52] <cypha> however, if I try echoing something to a .txt file using rc.local (in testing it), that does work
[04:52] <msi> looked like it was going to be an easy, perfect install on my second hard drive, it hunf g at the very end of the install process, and never installed anything
[04:52] <YellowGTO> Hwy guys
[04:52] <demonspork> ahaha, the new xkcd might be funny to some of you pepole
[04:52] <harry_> Morning all..
[04:52] <harry_> :)
[04:52] <demonspork> mrkrrtft, http://xkcd.com randall knows your troubles
[04:52] <mrkrrtft> evenin'
[04:52] <Jordan_U> cypha: My guess is that it never had an effect. Something else was changed at the same time which did switch the keys, which is why removing the line from rc.local also had no effect.
[04:52] <harry_> Hey is there any channel for the InstallJammer's help???
[04:52] <YellowGTO> When using FTP to transfer files I get about 75MB/s when using Samba I get about 11ish
[04:52] <YellowGTO> With EXT4 any ideas?
[04:53] <cypha> Jordan_U, how can I find out what's causing it?
[04:53] <cypha> what's causing the switch, that is
[04:53] <Sidewinder1> msi, Did you Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed?
[04:53] <cypha> i looked in .bashrc, didn't see it in there
[04:53] <mrkrrtft> Ok, fresh install of 11.04 gives me and X Ubuntu Classic desktop.  If I try to configure multiple screens and reboot, then I get no display.  If I try to enable either the current, or the 173 Additional Drivers, I get a blank screen on reboot.  I'm stuck and can't get X  to load up at all.  Any suggestions?
[04:53] <evildaemon> Hello, does anyone know a way to download apt packages to a specific directory without installing? (I know, WAY off  topic, but the action appears to be over...)
[04:54] <Jordan_U> !ot | demonspork
[04:54] <evildaemon> Uh, ignore those parentheses/
[04:55] <mrkrrtft> Ok, fresh install of 11.04 gives me and X Ubuntu Classic desktop.  If I try to configure multiple screens and reboot, then I get no display.  If I try to enable either the current, or the 173 Additional Drivers, I get a blank screen on reboot.  I'm stuck and can't get X  to load up at all.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[04:56] <cypha> Jordan_U, are there any packages in the ubuntu repo that I might have downloaded, which allow this functionality?
[04:56] <msi> sidewinder1 ,didnt do any of that, did not burn at the slowest speed either
[04:56] <cypha> honestly I don't remember if I did or didn't
[04:56] <Jordan_U> cypha: I don't know.
[04:56] <cypha> or if I modified any other file
[04:56] <cypha> how would you troubleshoot this?
[04:57] <Jordan_U> cypha: First I would try booting a liveCD of the same version of Ubuntu and see if the keys are still switched.
[04:57] <mrkrrtft> Ok, fresh install of 11.04 gives me and X Ubuntu Classic desktop.  If I try to configure multiple screens and reboot, then I get no display.  If I try to enable either the current, or the 173 Additional Drivers, I get a blank screen on reboot.  I'm stuck and can't get X  to load up at all.  Anyone?
[04:57] <cypha> Jordan_U, I'm on a vbox (Ubuntu Guest, windows 7 host)
[04:57] <cypha> windows 7 has no issues
[04:58] <Jordan_U> cypha: I know.
[04:58] <cypha> oh :)
[04:58] <mrkrrtft> !nvidia
[04:58] <cypha> the live cd would be clean though, so I'm 99.9% sure it would not have the switch
[04:58] <yagoo> cypha, u talking about "apt-cache policy <packagename>" ?
[04:58] <cypha> yagoo, no, I don't think so
[05:00] <cypha> Jordan_U, I should also mention that if I do "setxkbmap -option" at the command line, everything goes back to normal
[05:00] <cypha> ...that's how to reset the kbmapping
[05:01] <Jordan_U> cypha: As a work around you can run that at session startup then (meaning that it will not run as root and there will be a display associated with it, both good things). It's still worth trying a LiveCD as a test.
[05:02] <RamtinA> hello!what's the shortcut of log off?is it ctrl+shift+backspace?
[05:02] <phlak_user> RamtinA: its now ctl+Sysrq+backspace
[05:02] <Jordan_U> cypha: System Settings > Startup Applications
[05:03] <phlak_user> RamtinA: earlier it used to be ctl-alt-backspace (though you can activate this back now)
[05:03] <yagoo> cypha, you're having a problem with a meta key?
[05:03] <cypha> Jordan_U, I'm on openbox--> https://gist.github.com/f85aad2070b611dee220
[05:03] <cypha> yagoo, setxkbmap won't undo
[05:03] <RamtinA> phlak_user:Thanks.what's Sysrq?
[05:03] <harry_> Hey is there any channel for the InstallJammer's help???
[05:03] <yagoo> cypha, meta key is Ctl, alt, SHift, ...
[05:03] <Jordan_U> phlak_user: It would be alt+sysrq+k, and that would be a very ungentle killing of X rather than just "logging off".
[05:03] <yagoo> cypha, since you're using vbox.. vbox probably interferes with a meta key (i know in vmware it can)
[05:04] <phlak_user> RamtinA: on my laptop, its the key between Pause and Insert (it has Prt Sc on top and SysRq below)
[05:04] <rabbi1> is there a channel for thunderbird ?
[05:04] <cypha> yagoo, I'm trying to use all default stuff
[05:04] <yagoo> cypha, check in ur vbox settings..
[05:04] <phlak_user> Jordan_U: you need to direct this at the OP -> RamtinA
[05:04] <cypha> Jordan_U, is it possible to get to the Keyboard/layouts tab from the command line?
[05:04] <cypha> to summon this window via CL
[05:04] <cypha> http://devlab.ca/?p=4188
[05:04] <ryannathans> UBUNTU Y U WORK FOR
[05:05] <RamtinA> phlak_user:Thank you so much
[05:05] <cypha> I remember opening that and setting something
[05:05] <RamtinA> phlak_user: but don't work for me
[05:05] <Jordan_U> ryannathans: I already warned you once about using all caps. Please don't do it again.
[05:05] <yagoo> cypha, that may be a meta key for vbox.. vbox may be interfering with that..
[05:05] <cypha> yagoo, it's not
[05:05] <private_meta> stop hilighting me >_<
[05:06] <cypha> why does "meta" highlight you?
[05:06] <private_meta> duh
[05:06] <ryannathans> I deleted my raid array, made it again, tried to format, it wouldn't format, unexpected errors, then i go and delete it again, I made it AGAIN (this time only a pissy 800GB) and it formats and works, can someone explain why I have NO control over a 1.87TB 'disk' but i have perfect control over a 800gb 'disk'
[05:06] <phlak_user> RamtinA: this will help -> http://www.hackourlife.com/enable-restart-x-server-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[05:06] <cypha> i mean, why would you have meta highlight you
[05:06] <private_meta> DUH
[05:06] <cypha> people would autocomplete in 2011
[05:06] <private_meta> no
[05:07] <cypha> Can someone tell me how to get to this keyboard setup window from command line? http://devlab.ca/?p=4188
[05:08] <Jordan_U> private_meta: "meta" is a common enough word that you can't fault people for using it. Please either accept the inevitable extra highlights or configure your client to only highlight on your full nick.
[05:09] <private_meta> Jordan_U: I'm fully aware of that, and I did, on both accounts :)
[05:09] <BryGuy71>  I pretty Ubuntu uch lov
[05:10] <cypha> Jordan_U, is it possible to get to http://devlab.ca/?p=4188 via the command line?
[05:10] <BryGuy71> iterestingslexic keyboard dy
[05:10] <BryGuy71> exactly
[05:12] <ranjan_> Hi all , does linux support 128 bit processors ???
[05:12] <Jordan_U> !ot | ranjan_
[05:13] <ranjan_> Jordan_U, then let me ask, do ubuntu support 128bit processors?
[05:13] <yagoo> ranjan_, of course
[05:13] <Jordan_U> ranjan_: No, Ubuntu does not support any architectures with 128 bit processors.
[05:14] <ranjan_> yagoo, :) Jordan_U said it doesnt :)
[05:14] <yagoo> Jordan_U, he's not asking abour architecture..
[05:14] <yagoo> lol
[05:14] <rabbi1> is there a channel for thunderbird ?
[05:14] <yagoo> ranjan_, graphical processors!
[05:15] <meem1029> I would imagine you could get linux of some sort to run on just about any processor though.
[05:16] <zaapiel> netbsd runs on a toaster!
[05:17] <ryannathans> great support room.
[05:18] <cypha> Ok, looks like gnome-control-center from the command line summoned the necessary gui to edit keyboard settings
[05:18] <cypha> however, when I uncheck "swap control and caps lock", and exit and come back, it is still checked!
[05:19] <yagoo> cypha, LOL
[05:20] <ducati998> is the currently available beta2 an OK choice for a non-critical user desktop? Is the upgrade path to stable-release--when available painless?
[05:20] <yagoo> cypha, you said you were going to try cli!! LOL.. you can't?!!
[05:20] <cypha> No,  i said I needed to summon the gui from the command line
[05:22] <yagoo> cypha, try using tape with the ctl key :)
[05:22] <cypha> No one with substantial ubuntu experience here?
[05:22] <yagoo> lol
[05:22] <yagoo> xrdb.
[05:22] <yagoo> but of course.. you can't do cli..
[05:22] <coolfire> hi
[05:23] <PsyCl0ne> Can anyone help me diagnose why I can not hear anything on my netbook (D0255E)
[05:23] <coolfire> hi
[05:23] <cypha> PsyCl0ne, could you ever hear stuff before?
[05:23] <PsyCl0ne> cypha: yes then it got quiet and now nothing
[05:24] <PsyCl0ne> I am also running Lubuntu...
[05:24] <PsyCl0ne> 11.04
[05:24] <meem1029> PsyCl0ne: Have you tried rebooting?
[05:24] <PsyCl0ne> meem1029: Yes
[05:25] <meem1029> I'd recommend trying to reboot and choosing an older kernel version at grub.  I had problems like that a while ago and that fixed it.
[05:25] <PsyCl0ne> meem1029: This is a fresh install well besides the addition of Lubuntu restricted extras
[05:25] <almoxarife> PsyCl0ne: what happened of interest between being able to hear and losing sound? updates? conf edits?
[05:25] <meem1029> Oh, hmm.  That's odd then.
[05:26] <PsyCl0ne> almoxarife: I did 2 updates and a restricted extras install so I could watch flash videos. Im sorry Im fairly new so other than that I dont know what else I could have done
[05:26] <nhr_> Hey folks, trying to set up vpn using pptp. I can login to remote system, but dns for remote does not work.
[05:27] <nhr_> Any ideas what should I do?
[05:27] <almoxarife> PsyCl0ne: remove the restricted extras, try this so you can regain audio
[05:27] <cypha> Jordan_U, what can I uninstall/reinstall to make this fix?
[05:28] <nhr_> I see the dns servers in resolv.conf
[05:28] <coolfire> :L
[05:28] <almoxarife> PsyCl0ne: I don't know about other players but 'totem' does a nice job of adding codecs as needed, restricted or otherwise
[05:29] <ducati998> nhr_: does dig @<remoteDNSip> <hostname> work?
[05:29] <nhr_> ducati998: trying it
[05:29] <yagoo> nhr_, ya.. can u "dig" it? LOL
[05:30] <nhr_> I got the address back for a hostname
[05:30] <ducati998> and your /etc/resolv.conf looks good?
[05:30] <nhr_> yes it does - same dns server is shown is resolv.conf
[05:31] <ducati998> what about just dig hostname? does that work?
[05:32] <nhr_> yes, even that is working
[05:32] <ducati998> so what's not working?
[05:32] <phlak_user> nhr_: what does your sudo route -n look like?
[05:32] <ducati998> phlak_user: good idea, but wouldn't the dig prove his route is ok too?
[05:33] <nhr_> IF I ping the host it does not resolve, if I use the browser to connect to server, it does not rsolve. Copying route info on pastebin
[05:33] <ducati998> nhr_: sudo service iptables stop #just to be sure
[05:33] <yagoo> nhr_, there's another dns resolver for the remote internal network?
[05:33] <yagoo> ,/tunnel network/
[05:33] <phlak_user> ducati998: not necessarily; most VPN probs are related to routing table entries (some people want to route all traffic thro the vpn and some dont)
[05:34] <ducati998> phlak_user: gotcha
[05:34] <nhr_> Results for route -n http://pastebin.com/B2J93ALe
[05:34] <phlak_user> ducati998: it all depends on what nhr_  hopes to achieve
[05:34] <coolfire> :)
[05:34] <nhr_> All I want to achieve is to be able to login to my box by name
[05:34] <nhr_> I can do that by ip address right now
[05:34] <ducati998> /etc/hosts ;-D
[05:34] <phlak_user> nhr_: that shows that your default route is thro the VPN (ppp0)
[05:35] <phlak_user> nhr_: login to your box after setting up the tunnel or for setting up the tunnel?
[05:35] <nhr_> I tried googling and might have tried to set up some entries
[05:35] <ducati998> phlak_user: so the fix for nhr_ would be to have the resolv.conf adjusted on his 10.0.0.50?
[05:35] <nhr_> Dont really understand this stuff :(
[05:36] <phlak_user> ducati998: yes
[05:36] <ducati998> nhr_: listen to phlak_user i think he's on to something :)
[05:36] <phlak_user> ducati998: he could add another entry in resolv.conf for the other DNS server so that it falls back in case the box name isnt resolvable by the first one
[05:37] <yagoo> "<yagoo> nhr_, there's another dns resolver for the remote internal network?"  << looks like
[05:37] <phlak_user> nhr_: what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[05:37] <nhr_> phlak_user: I can login to the box, there are three entries in resolv.conf
[05:37] <nhr_> two from vpn and one from my router
[05:38] <nhr_> basically 3 nameserver entries, 10.0.0.10, 10.0.0.11 and router 192.168.1.1
[05:38] <phlak_user> nhr_: do they have  a search domain entry as well?
[05:39] <nhr_> Well, search/domain point to my local network
[05:39] <nhr_> in resolv.conf
[05:39] <phlak_user> nhr_: like so -> search cyberciti.biz nameserver 10.0.0.10
[05:40] <phlak_user> nhr_: replace cyberciti.biz with the domain name of your remote box
[05:41] <nhr_> need to install search, installing it now
[05:41] <phlak_user> nhr_: huh?
[05:41] <ducati998> phlak_user: can you elaborate on your thought process of suggesting his search domain being changed?
[05:41] <os1ris> I lost my taskbar in ubuntu 11. Can anyone help ?
[05:41] <nhr_> when I executed search <local domain> I got the error, cmd not found and suggested the package
[05:42] <phlak_user> nhr_: not the *search* package; add that line to resolv.conf just above the nameserver line
[05:42] <nhr_> sorry, misunderstood you
[05:43] <almoxarife> os1ris: you tried to install gnome-shell?
[05:43] <phlak_user> ducati998: im trying to make his local box go to a specific nameserver for a specific domain
[05:43] <os1ris> No.. I just removed it on accident. Wondering on how to get the lower "apps i got open " type taskbar back
[05:43] <ducati998> phlak_user: i thought search <domain> just appended non resolving hostnames with foo.<domain> in attempt to resolve non TLD hosts
[05:44] <nhr_> success
[05:44] <ryannathans> [ 2011.336186] EXT4-fs (sda1): no journal found
[05:44] <ryannathans> what do?
[05:44] <nhr_> at least ping resolves the name properly
[05:44] <ducati998> congrads nhr_ :)
[05:44] <phlak_user> nhr_: what about dig
[05:45] <phlak_user> ducati998: you're right; it helps him in using only the hostname part inplace of the fqdn
[05:45] <nhr_> My understanding is resolv.conf is generated. What do I do to make this permanent or it will retain my changes?
[05:45] <phlak_user> nhr_: in network-manager where you added the vpn connection
[05:45] <almoxarife> os1ris: to get it back right click on the panel where there is nothing open or showing and 'add to panel'
[05:45] <ducati998> phlak_user: thank you for the clarification
[05:45] <phlak_user> ducati998: yw
[05:45] <nhr_> ok, thanks. I'll set it up. BIG THANKS folks
[05:45] <phlak_user> nhr_: so is it working?
[05:45] <ryannathans> phlak_user: whachu think of me error?
[05:46] <nhr_> Have not set up the network manager yet, but now dns resolution is working
[05:46] <os1ris> I accidentally removed my lower taskbar ( one where shows what programs are open) and now I can not find out how to get it back.> Any help ?
[05:47] <phlak_user> ryannathans: looks like that partition doesnt have a valid ext4 system
[05:47] <ryannathans> phlak_user: its dat raid array
[05:48] <phlak_user> ryannathans: oh that one :) havent got a clue mate
[05:48] <ryannathans> at max size, ubutntu doesn't want to partition it, it throws random errors, at 800GB, it partitions and throws that error when mounting
[05:48] <phlak_user> ryannathans: after partitiioning, did you format it (create a filesystem)?
[05:48] <ryannathans> yes
[05:48] <ryannathans> ext4
[05:48] <ryannathans> gpt partition table
[05:49] <auronandace> ryannathans: 800gb partition for ubuntu is overkill
[05:49] <ryannathans> auronandace: it's not for ubuntu
[05:49] <ryannathans> i need it for all my data
[05:50] <phlak_user> ryannathans: arent you using an LVM?
[05:50] <ryannathans> phlak_user: LVM?
[05:50] <phlak_user> ryannathans: ah
[05:50] <nhr_> slight problems, if I use the automatic vpn from network manager, it does not allow me to enter the search entry
[05:50] <nhr_> If I use the address only entry, it does not get dns from vpn
[05:50] <nhr_> I can the add the dns manually, but worried if they change on other side of the connection, will not get those entries back
[05:50] <auronandace> ryannathans: ah, sorry, if windows needs to read it too you should make it ntfs
[05:50] <phlak_user> ryannathans: Logical Volume Manager . you should be following this -> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html
[05:51] <os1ris> Can anyone assist me in my system tray ( on the bottom issue ) please =]
[05:51] <ryannathans> I partitioned a ~40gb ext4 on an msdos partition table, it's on the 800gb array
[05:51] <phlak_user> !info lvm
[05:51] <ryannathans> auronandace: I know.
[05:51] <phlak_user> !info mdadm
[05:51] <ryannathans> i can't use 11.04 or 11.10 - they kernel panick on boot
[05:51] <ryannathans> i can't linux software raid, i need the raid array in both OS
[05:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> phlak_user:  please use /msg ubottu !<factoid>
[05:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> phlak_user:  rather than clutter up the channel here, private messaging the bot has the response sent directly to you
[05:52] <ryannathans> I have a 600$ raid card here, useless
[05:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> !lvm > phlak_user
[05:52] <phlak_user> TheEvilPhoenix: will do
[05:52] <phlak_user> TheEvilPhoenix: actually wanted to direct it at ryannathans
[05:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> phlak_user:  unless of course you need to have something stated here for a support purpose, of course.  IN which case, ignore what i said
[05:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> phlak_user:  oh, well then...
[05:53] <cypha> can someone tell me where "ctrl:swapcaps" is being set in this https://gist.github.com/cd47c5c7dde47808956e
[05:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> !lvm > ryannathans
[05:53] <cypha> i'm not very good at reading log files
[05:53] <ryannathans> i can't use software raid.
[05:54] <Untitled_only> hey, im having problems with compiz, on ubuntu 11.04
[05:54] <ryannathans> I NEED the raid array in windows & linux, it HAD all my data on it -.-
[05:54] <ryannathans> I've been working on this for a week
[05:55] <ryannathans> i've been in this room, EVERY DAY!
[05:55] <Untitled_only> when i go to ccsm and enable the desktop cube, it doesn't launch
[05:55]  * ryannathans has lost a weeks work and counting
[05:55] <phlak_user> ryannathans: do you have a separate hardware RAID controller?
[05:55] <Corey> ryannathans: Why do you need a RAID array under multiple OSes?
[05:56] <coolfire> why i cant download video for youtube in ubuntu 10.04[05:56] <ryannathans> phlak_user: yes, it's my dedicated raid card, adaptec 3805
[05:56] <phlak_user> ryannathans: methinks you need a NAS box more
[05:56] <Corey> ryannathans: By the time we get to RAID, we're usually single OS, or under a NAS.
[05:56] <Untitled_only> i have a nvida graphic card, but compiz wont work
[05:56] <coolfire> i
[05:57] <ryannathans> Corey: I have the raid array for windows, where all my work is, and in linux I need the raid array for work too ;d
[05:57] <ryannathans> I can't NAS, I need more bandwidth than 1Gb/s
[05:57] <ryannathans> that's why i have me array
[05:58] <coolfire> why i cant download video for youtube in ubntu
[05:58] <soreau> coolfire: you can
[05:58] <ryannathans> coolfire: you need flash
[05:58] <soreau> coolfire: Try installing firefox add-on download helper
[05:58] <ryannathans> coolfire: if you don't have flash  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[05:59] <coolfire> ok think you!!!
[05:59] <ryannathans> I have helped more than 100 people. I tihnk it's my turn. I NEED to access raid array under linux, adaptec 3805, i have tried to modprobe aacraid but that does nothing
[06:00] <asian14> hello all fellow ubuntu users
[06:01] <ryannathans> \o/ runs complex linux servers but can't get desktop installed
[06:02] <gr33n7007h> HELP. Needed. macbook pro 13 touchpad wont work in ubuntu 10.10
[06:03] <Falstaff> I am looking for a music composing program along the lines of Quasi Fractal composer -- any suggestions?
[06:03] <ryannathans> can i HIRE someone?
[06:03] <fritsch> ryannathans: how much do you want to pay? :-)
[06:03] <Jordan_U> ryannathans: Canonical provides commercial support.
[06:04] <meem1029> ryannathans: I'm pretty sure exclaiming about your problem more won't help.  If people in here knew how to help you they probably would have.
[06:04] <ryannathans> Jordan_U: can you direct me pleasE?
[06:05] <Jordan_U> ryannathans: http://www.canonical.com/consumer-services/support
[06:05] <gr33n7007h> please help it was working before
[06:06] <kevinjeet> hey! just installed natty on a sandybridge i7 and nvidia gtx 460M... any idea how to test which gpu is active?
[06:06] <ryannathans> £88.42?!
[06:06] <ryannathans> I should only have to pay if they can't help
[06:06] <Duromorir> hello
[06:06] <Duromorir> anyone can help me
[06:06] <meem1029> How would that make sense?
[06:06] <meem1029> !ask | Duromorir
[06:07] <zimb0> !patience | zimb0
[06:07] <rww> gr33n7007h: because ubottu is the #UBunTU bOT
[06:07] <ryannathans> !patience | ryannathans
[06:08] <gr33n7007h> oh ok lol
[06:08] <Duromorir> my grub choise was lost
[06:08] <Duromorir> ~_~1
[06:08] <Duromorir> last time i use 2 os
[06:08] <Duromorir> win and gnacktrack
[06:08] <Duromorir> an then i reinstall my win7
[06:09] <Duromorir> and now, i can't use my gnactracck again after i finish install my win7
[06:09] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | Duromorir
[06:09] <Dr_ubuntu> will the new release be tomorrow?
[06:11] <jasef> Yep, 13th Oct in GMT time
[06:15] <keithzg> Hmm, I'm trying to help someone remotely diagnose graphics issues on an HD 4350, what's the open source drivers package actually called these days? I always seem to have Intel or Nvidia so I'm a bit unsure.
[06:15] <os1ris> I have looked all over the internet. I cant not seem to find out where/how to get my lower taskbar back( one that has the trash and so on) i accidently removed it.. Can somone help me on getting this back? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
[06:15] <cypha> Can I get help in locating where ctrl:swapcaps is has been set? I have this in my Xorg.log file--> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d and there are 3 instances of ctrl:swapcaps...just not sure what file is providing those values
[06:16] <airtonix> os1ris: i assume you're using a gnome 2 desktop, then this is simple
[06:16] <os1ris> Gnome yes.
[06:17] <airtonix> os1ris: right click on the top bar then click new panel, you'll have to recreate the panel applets that were on the previous bottom bar you had, simply right click on your new bottom panel and select "Add to panel"
[06:17] <os1ris> so how to i drag it down to the bottom
[06:18] <os1ris> Oh fuck
[06:18] <airtonix> os1ris: right click it : properties
[06:18] <os1ris> Haha I feel fucking stupid ...
[06:18] <Jordan_U> !language | os1ris
[06:18] <os1ris> sorry
[06:18] <airtonix> os1ris: a little bit of investigative work prior to this would have fixed that
[06:18] <os1ris> I feel stupid. I was over thinking the problem. Looking at gconf editor and all that.. hah thx man
[06:18] <os1ris> Well i was googling the heck out of stuff and looking on the forums
[06:18] <coolfire> kj
[06:18] <airtonix> no worries os1ris
[06:19] <Nicolus> ick
[06:19] <os1ris> but everyting was for other stuff. Well thanks again... Nothing like a admin lookin like a n3wb
[06:19] <os1ris> l8rs
[06:19] <airtonix> os1ris: if you haven't already, checkout askubuntu
[06:19] <cypha> how do I find a file at the command line?
[06:19] <cypha> "find .gnomerc"
[06:19] <airtonix> cypha: depends.
[06:20] <cypha> airtonix, on?
[06:20] <airtonix> cypha: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/find/ZmluZA==/sort-by-votes
[06:20] <cypha> i want to search the whole filesystem
[06:20] <airtonix> cypha: if you're looking for filenames then its one tool, if you are looking for a file containing a certain phrase then it's another tool
[06:21] <cypha> i'm looking for file names
[06:21] <airtonix> cypha: (there are infact numerous tools to do this task)
[06:21] <cypha> so just tell me one syntax please
[06:21] <airtonix> cypha: checkout that page i linked for you
[06:22] <cypha> airtonix, what would be your preferred method of searching for a filename?
[06:22] <airtonix> find ~/.ssh -name '*.pub'
[06:23] <cypha> what's ~/.ssh for?
[06:23] <fritsch> cypha: man ssh
[06:23] <airtonix> cypha: it's the location, that one says " look for all the files that end in .pub inside the .ssh folder under my home folder"
[06:23] <cypha> no, that's not what I'm asking fritsch
[06:24] <airtonix> cypha: so you want to find the .gnomerc file ?
[06:24] <airtonix> cypha: or files that end in .gnomerc (which is a theme file right ? )
[06:24] <fritsch> cypha: okay, got - so man find :-)
[06:24] <cypha> airtonix, actually, I have no idea what I want to find, I was just gonna try a bnucha crap
[06:24] <cypha> fritsch, keep your rtfm's to yourself
[06:25] <airtonix> have some paitence
[06:25] <cypha> airtonix, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey#toc4
[06:25] <fritsch> cypha: sometimes reading and understanding is better than copying commands
[06:25] <cypha> I think I did that
[06:25] <airtonix> cypha: i highly recommend commandlinefu.com
[06:26] <airtonix> cypha: i'm not a fan of emacs or vi
[06:26] <cypha> and basically I cannot undo the ctrl and capslock swap
[06:26] <airtonix> cypha: sorry, no idea
[06:26] <cypha> according to Xorg.log, it's still happening
[06:26] <cypha> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d
[06:26] <cypha> if you search for "caps" in there, you can see the line
[06:26] <cypha> but I don't know what file on my system has that line
[06:27] <cypha> like where in the world are those "options" being read from
[06:27] <cypha> got a good way to find that?
[06:27] <cypha> grepping has lead me nowhere
[06:27] <fritsch> cypha: your xorg.conf is empty, isn't it?
[06:28] <cypha> no
[06:28] <fritsch> cypha: but there you already looked and it is not in?
[06:28] <cypha> nope
[06:28] <fritsch> cypha: cause this is the first one, this could be in
[06:28] <cypha> there's stuf in there, but that's not in there
[06:28] <cypha> I checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:30] <cypha> any ideas?
[06:30] <fritsch> cypha: check keyboard-configuration package
[06:31] <cypha> i have it
[06:31] <cypha> how do I run it?
[06:31] <cypha> or check it
[06:31] <fritsch> cypha: you want to reconfigure it?
[06:31] <fritsch> cypha: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[06:32] <lapion> I am really beginning to become fond of microsoft, they have really made it easy for us linux afficionados with windows 8 we will be having a hell of a lot of people switching to linux
[06:32] <lapion> oth windows 8 will bring all kinds of n00bs and other rather irritating ppl screaming to us and driving us crazy.. in the end we might flip and the only os we'd be able to use is the retarded w8 .,,,,...,,.,,..,.,,.
[06:32] <cypha> generic 105-key (intl) pc
[06:32] <cypha> ?
[06:32] <cypha> not sure why it's intl
[06:32] <cypha> i'm in the US
[06:32] <FloodBot1> cypha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <Ben64> people said that about vista, didn't happen then
[06:33] <cypha> fritsch, that's the same stuff that's in the gnome-control-center Keyboard settings
[06:33] <dageriv> my laptop just froze, and after two seconds, decided to reboot. i am now logged in after this, which logs should i check to find out what happened?
[06:34] <cypha> but when I uncheck swap capslock and cntrl, it just ends up rechecked when I close and open
[06:34] <TehDGM> Ben64: but for vista they didnt attempt to force a "tablet ui" on us..
[06:34] <TehDGM> that'll be all i have to say about that :P
[06:35] <sandking> hello
[06:35] <Jordan_U> !ot | TehDGM lapion Ben64
[06:35] <Jordan_U> lapion: Please don't use "retarded" as a pejorative.
[06:35] <sandking> i got 11.04 installed - is update to 11.10 automatic or do i need to do somtehing specific outside update manager? (I think I read that 11.04 and after it should be automatic)
[06:37] <fritsch> cypha: sorry no idea either - but i am interested :-)
[06:37] <Northwoods> Can i create a shortcut on panel or a keyboard shortcut for opening a folder like /home/northwoods/web/
[06:37] <cypha> Jordan_U, you should make a trigger for that
[06:37] <cypha> :)
[06:37] <airtonix> Northwoods: yes
[06:37] <Northwoods> airtonix: sorry but i'm new , how can we do it ?
[06:37] <fritsch> cypha: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[06:37] <fritsch> cypha: as a last hint
[06:37] <fritsch> cypha: could work
[06:38] <airtonix> Northwoods: ok so you have your file manageer open to the folder you want the shortcut pointing to ?
[06:38] <airtonix> Northwoods: also which version of ubuntu are you using ?
[06:38] <Northwoods> yes , 10.xx
[06:39] <Northwoods> 10.04 lucid
[06:39] <airtonix> Northwoods: simply ctrl shift drag the folder to the panel
[06:39] <cypha> fritsch, aren't these all the same options available in the gui?
[06:39] <airtonix> Northwoods: sorry ctrl shift drag to the desktop, then drag that icon on the desktop to your panel
[06:39] <Northwoods> airtonix:
[06:39] <Northwoods> thanks
[06:39] <fritsch> cypha: not sure for systemwide
[06:39] <airtonix> Northwoods: no problems
[06:40] <cypha> fritsch, what're the default options?
[06:40] <cypha> utf-8
[06:40] <cypha> ?
[06:40] <fritsch> cypha: jep
[06:40] <cypha> and then character set to support?
[06:40] <fritsch> cypha: just leave the default - i am still searching the correct way to change it
[06:41] <cypha> fritsch, didn't change capslock/ctrl
[06:42] <fritsch> cypha: http://dinomite.net/2007/caps-lock-to-control-on-ubuntu/#.TpU25P3Bz5g <- this one, you have tried?
[06:43] <cypha> fritsch, yes
[06:43] <cypha> and by tried, I mean, I looked in xorg.conf, and that line is not there
[06:44] <Jordan_U> cypha: Have you tested a LiveCD of the same release of Ubuntu yet?
[06:44] <cypha> Jordan_U, i don't have a blank cd
[06:44] <Jordan_U> cypha: This is VirtualBox, you can treat the iso like a CD.
[06:44] <cypha> Jordan_U, if it occurs on the live cd, what would that indicate? that my Host or VBox are at fault?
[06:45] <cypha> oh, good point
[06:45] <Jordan_U> cypha: Yes.
[06:45] <cypha> k, i'll do it now
[06:46] <cypha> i hope you have options for me if it doesn't work!
[06:46] <fritsch> cypha: manual xorg.conf for your keyboard settings should work
[06:46] <fritsch> cypha: but another way would be batter
[06:46] <fritsch> cypha: custom xmodmap is another alternative
[06:47] <cypha> Jordan_U, I've got the ubuntu ISO
[06:47] <cypha> how do I load it up?
[06:47] <cypha> you mean create a new machine?
[06:50] <harry_> Fedora 15 users???
[06:50] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I!
[06:50] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> But this is Ubuntu chanel
[06:54] <ryannathans> when raid card is inserted, 11.04, 11.10 and fedora 15 all kernel panic on boot
[06:54] <ryannathans> 10.04 can't even read it
[06:54] <ryannathans> works perfect under windows i might add
[06:54] <trench> what kind of crappy raidcard?
[06:55] <trench> every crappy raidcard works in windows
[06:55] <ryannathans> crappy? it's RRP is ~$600
[06:55] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I once had a Crappy USB soundcard that only worked in FreeBSD
[06:55] <TehDGM> maybe it just needs some kernal module
[06:55] <ryannathans> adapec 3805
[06:55] <TehDGM> kernel too
[06:55] <ryannathans> aacraid is what is needed i beleive
[06:57] <phlak_user> ryannathans: you can compile it into the kernel like so -> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/aac.4freebsd.html
[06:57] <Alxjrvs> Hey guys
[06:57] <Alxjrvs> I feel I just somehow screwed myself
[06:57] <Alxjrvs> I am setting up ubuntu for the first time, and now when I
[06:57] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Please elaborate
[06:57] <ohzie> :[
[06:57] <ryannathans> phlak_user: I've seen that, i dont have anything to compile it on
[06:57] <Alxjrvs> "cd ~" in command line, it takes me to a completely naked directory.
[06:57] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> !enter
[06:58] <trench> http://www.adaptec.com/weblog//2007/11/15/how-do-i-get-adaptec-storage-manager-to-work-with-ubuntu-710/
[06:58] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Did you create a user without making a home directory for that use
[06:58] <ohzie> user*
[06:58] <Alxjrvs> Sorry, ubottu. I'll try not to. Long story short, cd ~ used to always take me to my home directory (/home/username/) but now it takes me to an empty directory. "cd .." brings me to root.
[06:58] <Alxjrvs> I do not believe so.
[06:58] <ryannathans> trench: 404
[06:59] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> What happens when you type "pwd", Alxjrvs
[06:59] <trench> http://www.adaptec.com/weblog/2009/07/24/improving-support-for-debian-based-oss/
[06:59] <Lasers> Alxjrvs: "echo $USER" reports what?
[06:59] <phlak_user> Alxjrvs: press ctl+d
[06:59] <Alxjrvs> MAREK: /home/alxjrvs
[06:59] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> That means you're in your home directory :)
[07:00] <ryannathans> trench: the driver is in the kernel
[07:00] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: do "ls -A"
[07:00] <ryannathans> trench: I need to compile it, but have no machine to do so
[07:00] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: If you really think there should be anything in your home directory, that should show it to you
[07:00] <ryannathans> can somebody compile a kernel for me?
[07:00] <Alxjrvs> MAREL: forgive me, I was actually in my home directory at the time. cd ~, then pwd gives me "/root"
[07:00] <Ben64> ryannathans: compile it in livecd
[07:00] <Alxjrvs> ...
[07:01] <Alxjrvs> I fear I just solved my own question.
[07:01] <Ben64> Alxjrvs: are you logged in as root?
[07:01] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: ;p;
[07:01] <ohzie> lol*
[07:01] <Alxjrvs> Alright.
[07:01] <Alxjrvs> Feeling like a noob on IRC. Brings me back to the good old days.
[07:01] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: It's okay, man. It happens to the best of us.
[07:01] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: You should've seen me a few weeks ago
[07:01] <phlak_user> ryannathans: you could boot a laptop with a usb/livecd and compile
[07:02] <phlak_user> Alxjrvs: did you press ctl+d ?
[07:02] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: I've been using linux for more than a decade. I installed the newest Fedora on my laptop and I was like "uh oh god what is this." and had no idea what to do with gnome 3.
[07:02] <ryannathans> phlak_user: yeah, i have a single core atom @ 1.6ghz
[07:02] <ryannathans> going to go a long way...
[07:03] <Ben64> you have a raid card with an atom?
[07:03] <phlak_user> ryannathans: i have one like that too ; just compile the module
[07:03] <ohzie> ryannathans: Hey that sounds like my torrent server. EEEpc with ubuntu server on it. :3
[07:03] <ryannathans> ohzie: hehe
[07:03] <ryannathans> ohzie: that's what i'm on
[07:03] <ryannathans> phlak_user: module is compiled and in every damn build since 7
[07:03] <ryannathans> phlak_user:  i need it in the kernel
[07:03] <ohzie> Ben64: A lot of people like ulv CPUs for servers nowadays. =P They don't have the brunt, but they can do everything a good server could do a few years ago. =P
[07:03] <Companion> ROAR!
[07:04] <Alxjrvs> Ohzie: Gnome three is resonsible for my escapade, too
[07:04] <Alxjrvs> I actually really like it
[07:04] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Yeah it makes me feel weird and I hate it. I'm gonna have to get used to it though.
[07:04] <Northwoods> how do i extract a zip file into /usr/share/php , it doesn't allow me through archive manager
[07:04] <Ben64> ohzie: well yeah, but i've never seen an eeepc that would take a raid card
[07:04] <ryannathans> chown/chmod
[07:04] <ohzie> Northwoods: "sudo unzip filename" in the terminal
[07:04] <ryannathans> Northwoods:
[07:04] <Companion> Ben64, why do you want to extract it there?
[07:04] <TehDGM> dont chown that folder
[07:04] <TehDGM> sudo it
[07:04] <Ben64> Companion: wrong guy
[07:05] <ohzie> Northwoods: What TehDGM said, please don't chown that folder. Lol./
[07:05] <Northwoods> ryannathans: Why sudo and not CHOWN ?
[07:05] <Companion> Ben64, guy?
[07:05] <Ben64> i'm not the one unzipping
[07:05] <ryannathans> Northwoods: eh?
[07:05] <upsetchildren> #ubuntu-offtopic is ran by a bunch of babies
[07:05] <Northwoods> thanks people
[07:05] <ohzie> Ben64: They make Atoms for desktop computers too. I just use an EEEpc because I like to be able to put my server in my backpack. =D
[07:05] <ryannathans> i have nfi what's going on anymore
[07:05] <TehDGM> because you shouldnt mess with the ownership of that system folder.. theres no need. It can also comprimize security
[07:05] <Companion> Ben64, you know extracting in such place can cause lots of troubles?
[07:05] <phlak_user> ryannathans: which is why you need to include it in the kernel (monolithic) as against it being a loadable module
[07:06] <Ben64> Companion: again, its not me unzipping
[07:06] <Companion> Ben64, so your intending to destroy some one else's system?
[07:06] <Alxjrvs> ohzie I'm in my mid twenties, been using linux for... gosh, 10 years now. I've always been a design person, and I have to say that this interface is ~20 pounds sexier than anything i've seen on linux.
[07:06] <Ben64> Companion: dude its not me!
[07:06] <Companion> Ben64, then why do you ask it?
[07:06] <Ben64> I DID NOT ASK IT
[07:06] <Companion> Ben64, oops xD
[07:06] <Ben64> finally
[07:06] <Northwoods> what is difference between gksudo and sudo ?
[07:07] <Companion> Ben64, srry I just woke up
[07:07] <trench> Northwoods: gk
[07:07] <MonkeyDust> Northwoods: gk is for graphical appliclations
[07:07] <Ben64> Northwoods: gksudo makes gui stuff work better
[07:07] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Well it's a good thing some people like it. :-)
[07:07] <TehDGM> gksudo has a gui thing
[07:07] <Northwoods> ok
[07:07] <Companion> Northwoods, why your extracting some thing there? :o
[07:07] <Alxjrvs> Here's a dumb question: what command logs me out of root? I know I can just reset the window, but I am curious.
[07:07] <Lasers> Northwoods: Unzip in ~/Temp ; Move the contents to your desirable directory in the forbidden forest outside of your home directory.
[07:07] <TehDGM> no all it does is show an input box in a gui rather then a commandline
[07:07] <Northwoods> Companion: yes
[07:07] <TehDGM> it doesnt make stuff work better really :P
[07:07] <phlak_user> Alxjrvs: ctl+d
[07:07] <Ben64> Alxjrvs: CTRL+D or "exit"
[07:07] <Companion> Northwoods, I asked why... its dangerous
[07:07] <popey> Alxjrvs: logout :D
[07:07] <trench> Alxjrvs: ctrl+d
[07:07] <Alxjrvs> Thanks guys
[07:07] <Northwoods> what
[07:08] <Companion> Northwoods, extracting stuff into your system can cause orphan packages & Conflicts
[07:08] <Northwoods> Companion: what should i do then ?
[07:08] <ohzie> Northwoods: the sudo line
[07:08] <Companion> Northwoods, what your trying to do then/
[07:08] <Northwoods> extract somewhere esle and move ?
[07:08] <trench> LindaLoveLace: irc as root is not a smart idea
[07:08] <Alxjrvs> ohzie: Also, something I discovered that I love: Now, my workstations are relegated to one monitor. So I can keep my dual monitor consistent with a single activity and move around on the other monitor. Fantastic for programming with multiple resources to look at.
[07:08] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Why is GRUB Prefered over LiLo in Ubuntu?
[07:09] <Northwoods> i have to extract a zend library
[07:09] <ohzie> MAREK_BENC_NetB: because Lilo is ancient
[07:09] <Northwoods> so i'm thinking of extracting it in /usr/share/php
[07:09] <trench> MAREK_BENC_NetB: grub got more stuff than lilo
[07:09] <MonkeyDust> MAREK_BENC_NetB: "why" is philosophical question
[07:09] <Companion> Northwoods, your trying to run encrypted web pages?
[07:09] <phlak_user> Northwoods: what do the instructions say?
[07:09] <Northwoods> Companion: no
[07:09] <TehDGM> grub is much more powerful then lilo is
[07:09] <Northwoods> instructions say nothing ?
[07:09] <Companion> Northwoods, or zend framework* srry xD
[07:09] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> But you can put lilo on anything
[07:09] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: Yeah, I use multiple computers at work...but I use a windows laptop and a mac at work. ( ,_,)
[07:10] <phlak_user> Northwoods: where did you get that library from (or did you make it yourself?)
[07:10] <Northwoods> ok i can extract zend library into /home/northwoods/libraries/
[07:10] <Companion> Northwoods, do: sudo apt-get install zend-framework
[07:10] <Alxjrvs> Ohzie: Yeesh.
[07:10] <TehDGM> you can also put grub on "everything"
[07:10] <Northwoods> phlak_user: zend library
[07:10] <Companion> Northwoods, do: sudo apt-get install zend-framework
[07:11] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: I was only allowed to use windows until recently. Linux was just a server thing and a my-laptop thing...but we're switching to corporate gmail for everything, so it doesn't matter what I use. So I have a mac on my desk. It's...really pretty. :3
[07:11] <Northwoods> Companion: it will start downloading again , i have the archive of zend framework
[07:11] <Northwoods> i just need to extract it and update the path in php.ini ,  include_path settings
[07:11] <Companion> Northwoods, its better to instal trough APT :)
[07:11] <Northwoods> and i'm ready to go
[07:11] <Northwoods> ok let me ty
[07:11] <Northwoods> try
[07:11] <Northwoods> thanks for help
[07:11] <ohzie> Alxjrvs: irssi really sucks on a mac's terminal though. The default mac terminal is actually a lot less capable than I'm use to gnome-terminal being. Significantly. :| I downloaded terminator for mac, but I haven't had much chance to play with it yet.
[07:12] <Companion> Northwoods, np its better safe then sorry
[07:13] <`Abhijit> I've got a 3g modem (USB dongle) that loads up a virtual CD-ROM on start. Any ideas on how I can automatically 'eject' it on startup? (The volume isn't mounted on start though.. if it helps) Thanks.
[07:14] <TehDGM> disable booting from usb in your bios
[07:15] <TehDGM> or do you mean that it mounts it?
[07:15] <`Abhijit> TehDGM, it is unmounted but not ejected. The icon shows up on desktop
[07:16] <MonkeyDust> ohzie: i use irssi in linux, works fine
[07:16] <wooter> `Abhijit, there is eject command
[07:16] <wooter> add the command to startup script
[07:17] <wooter> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/eject.1.html
[07:17] <`Abhijit> wooter, thanks.. i'll try that
[07:20] <deal> sad
[07:20] <Companion> Northwoods, did it work?
[07:21] <ohzie> MonkeyDust: I was referring to using it over a mac terminal
[07:22] <ohzie> MonkeyDust: irssi in linux is pretty much all I ever use ever for irc. It's fantastic. Everything I could ever want or need in any irc-related situation.
[07:22] <Northwoods> Companion: I used the zend framework extracted library and extracted it to /home/northwoods/zendframework and now going to update the php.ini for include_path to this folder
[07:23] <Companion> Northwoods, wont work :)
[07:25] <Northwoods> :) let me try it and see
[07:26] <PunkUnity> hey
[07:27] <PunkUnity> quick question
[07:27] <PunkUnity> i am trying to use chromium
[07:28] <PunkUnity> everytime i start it
[07:28] <PunkUnity> it asks me to set it as default browser, which i do
[07:28] <PunkUnity> and everytime it keeps asking
[07:28] <PunkUnity> fix?
[07:28] <zamba> is it possible to set a global proxy server?
[07:28] <zamba> in ubuntu?
[07:29] <wooter> i believe so zamba
[07:29] <zamba> wooter: where is that set?
[07:29] <wooter> ive had apt-get run thru proxy before
[07:29] <zamba> wooter: yeah, i know about that.. but when i now try to use mplayer to stream something, a proxy is used
[07:29] <zamba> for the strangest reason
[07:29] <zamba> i've never experienced that before
[07:29] <Ben64> you probably set a proxy
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: well, where?
[07:30] <Ben64> do you have chrome
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: yes
[07:30] <Ben64> did you set a proxy in there
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: i tried the proxy switchy! extension there
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: so yeah
[07:30] <Ben64> theres your problem :)
[07:30] <PunkUnity> so no one has any ideas onn my problen
[07:30] <PunkUnity> ?
[07:30] <zamba> Ben64: but how does mplayer use that proxy? that makes no sense?
[07:30] <Ben64> chrome likes to set proxy system wide
[07:31] <zamba> Ben64: yeah, but why and how does mplayer use that?
[07:31] <PunkUnity> ben64 i have no idea what that means
[07:31] <zamba> Ben64: it has to be set in some file that mplayer reads?
[07:31] <wooter> http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_use_mplayer_with_a_proxy_server
[07:31] <zamba> wooter: did you read what i actually asked?
[07:31] <PunkUnity> i just want to make chromium the default browser and stop it form asking me
[07:31] <zamba> wooter: i don't want mplayer to use a proxy, i DON'T want it to be using the one it's using
[07:33] <jasef> Chrome doesn't set its own proxy, it respects the system proxy instead - and so its proxy settings button points to the system proxy
[07:35] <vlt> Hello. How can I find out who created, changed or deleted which file and when?
[07:35] <ryannathans> I can't compile kernel on a liveusb.. one of the packages can't install
[07:37] <ryannathans> http://pastebin.com/E6ENb12T
[07:38] <phlak_user> ryannathans: methinks you can safely ignore those two errors
[07:40] <ryannathans> what about http://pastebin.com/srtMMgH4
[07:41] <wrenny> i installed Ubuntu from a USB stick, did the whole setup, restarted to PC but it just loads Windows, no option seen to boot into Ubuntu, what did I miss?
[07:41] <ryannathans> wrenny: bootloader
[07:41] <zaapiel> yeah
[07:42] <wrenny> I said nothing about that in direction on the Ubuntu web site
[07:42] <wrenny> it
[07:42] <Northwoods> Companion: you are right
[07:42] <Northwoods> it didn't work
[07:42] <Northwoods> i'll have to use APT
[07:42] <ryannathans> phlak_user: http://pastebin.com/srtMMgH4
[07:43] <newb> how can i watch veoh on ubuntu
[07:43] <newb> how can i watch veoh on ubuntu?
[07:43] <wrenny> says nothing about a needing a bootloader on this url: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[07:44] <ryannathans> wrenny: you installed bootloader on wrong disc when installing
[07:44] <wrenny> what?
[07:45] <usr13> wrenny: every OS needs a boot loader, that is a given
[07:45] <wrenny> i used the tool to create the Ubuntu install from a usb device
[07:45] <gechmog> So, if I wanted to run a quick stress test on a new internatl 2TB hard drive, what command would I use with Bonnie++?
[07:45] <wrenny> and foloowed the directions to the letter on that url
[07:45] <usr13> !grub | wrenny
[07:45] <wrenny> it just says, reboot and enjoy Ubuntu?
[07:46] <MonkeyDust> gechmog: try ./bonnie++ -u root
[07:46] <wrenny> yea well it would have been nice for the main website of Ubuntu to even mention that
[07:46] <Mavrik> hi
[07:47] <ryannathans> wrenny: it installs while installing ubuntu
[07:47] <wrenny> what does
[07:47] <honey> hey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?
[07:47] <ryannathans> you have failed and put it on wrong partition or drive, or theres an error
[07:47] <ryannathans> grub -.-
[07:47] <wrenny> no error
[07:47] <Mavrik> I'm experiencing flickering on desktop when having effects enabled on 2500K sandy bridge GPU, is there any parameter/PPA with updated drivers that could fix that?
[07:47] <ryannathans> wrenny: it's not all verbose
[07:47] <wrenny> like I said I follow the direction on that url to the letter
[07:47] <The_BROS> Is Unity easier in use than Gnome?
[07:48] <Qnnari> Hey, is there a terminal command i can use to disable restricted nvidia drivers? Installed them and after reboot I'm getting fsck boot...
[07:48] <usr13> wrenny: The instructions could have been a lot longer and could have included a lot more details, (one could write a pretty nice size book on how to install Linux).
[07:48] <wrenny> i chose ot install beside current windows OS
[07:48] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS: depends on what you like
[07:48] <ryannathans> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[07:48] <Kalidarn> hmm, i just updated the firmware on my SSD (and reinstalled windows) so i decided to change back my controller to AHCI
[07:48] <Ben64> Qnnari: fsck isn't bad
[07:48] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[07:48] <Kalidarn> i've noticed that grub wont boot anything while in AHCI and the bootsplash for grub doesn't appear in AHCI mode
[07:48] <Qnnari> its not? scared the shit out of me...
[07:48] <wrenny> I allocated space on C: for it
[07:48] <Kalidarn> is there something i have to do to get grub to work with AHCI?
[07:48] <newb> how can i watch veoh on ubuntu?
[07:48] <honey> hey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?
[07:49] <Ben64> Qnnari: it happens every n boots
[07:49] <i2c> Hi folks I have 3 computers here all running ubuntu. I would like to save bandwidth by having only one computer downloading packages how can I do it?
[07:49] <wrenny> an I see the partitions in Windows disk manager
[07:49] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Do you have more than one internal hard drive?
[07:49] <wrenny> yes several
[07:49] <Jordan_U> wrenny: How many?
[07:49] <wrenny> i created a separate partition on my main drive
[07:49] <wrenny> it
[07:49] <gechmog> MonkeyDust: I don't want to run the command under root, I just really want to do a thorough test.
[07:49] <wrenny> i see it
[07:49] <wrenny> 50 GB
[07:50] <Jordan_U> wrenny: How many?
[07:50] <The_BROS> MonkeyDust: I mean should I install gnome 3 in 11.10 release or better to become accustomed to Unity?
[07:50] <MonkeyDust> gechmog: try your username instead of root
[07:50] <Qnnari> Ben64: Maybe I explained myself badly, what I'm getting is a black screen and ubuntu itself wont boot up
[07:50] <wrenny> 4
[07:50] <th_> i2c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror
[07:50] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS: the same: depends on what you like more - i don't like unity so i don't use it
[07:50] <Ben64> Qnnari: what video card
[07:50] <i2c> thanks th_:)
[07:51] <th_> The_BROS: try them out and decide yourself.. i personally hate gnome-shell, at least for it not working correctly with ati cards =P
[07:51] <ryannathans> What do? http://pastebin.com/3fSeqQ7p
[07:51] <Qnnari> Ben64: Nvidia geforce gt 540m
[07:51] <th_> ryannathans: apt-get update
[07:51] <th_> :)
[07:51] <The_BROS> th_: my ATI works good with Gnome
[07:51] <Ben64> !nomodeset | Qnnari
[07:51] <wrenny> so are you saying the usb install installs grub by default or what
[07:51] <ryannathans> th_: I just did that -.-
[07:52] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Try changing the boot order so that a different drive is first (or if your BIOS has a one time boot menu option that would probably be easier/faster). Try with each drive (whether you think it makes sense for that drive to boot Ubuntu or not) until one works. If none work then come back and use my nick (Jordan_U) in your comment so I see it.
[07:52] <Ben64> Qnnari: try that before trying to remove nvidia drivers
[07:52] <th_> The_BROS: gnome3 surely does not work with proprietary ati cards
[07:52] <th_> *driver
[07:52] <Qnnari> Ben64: Thanks!
[07:52] <wrenny> boot order where
[07:52] <honey> please help me?
[07:52] <wrenny> nothing loads
[07:52] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Grub is always installed by default. It just wasn't installed to the drive that your BIOS is currently configured to boot from.
[07:52] <th_> with 11.9 it more or less starts (oneirich has 11.8 drivers), but can't launch any opengl app in it
[07:52] <The_BROS> th_: mmm... its pity
[07:52] <MonkeyDust> !helpme| honey
[07:53] <wrenny> my boot order is usb/CD/HDD
[07:53] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Your BIOS doesn't give you an option for which of your 4 internal hard drives it boots from?
[07:53] <The_BROS> Is this a good idea to install 11.10 release tomorrow or is better to wait, until it becomes stable?
[07:54] <wrenny> yes
[07:54] <th_> no
[07:54] <th_> :P
[07:54] <wrenny> It set to the main drive with Windows on it
[07:54] <gechmog> MonkeyDust: What does ./ mean?
[07:54] <Ben64> The_BROS: if you want stable, LTS is your best bet
[07:54] <gechmog> Doesn't that mean just "current directory"
[07:54] <th_> The_BROS: i'd wait few weeks tbh, there's bunch of critical bugs still open that aren't fixed
[07:54] <wrenny> and I can see the new partitions Ubuntu created on the SAME drive
[07:54] <OY1R> lts all the way
[07:54] <Companion> where is north?
[07:54] <MonkeyDust> gechmog: it means current directory
[07:55] <Lasers> The_BROS: Your mileage may vary. We all don't have same hardware. You should do a test run first.
[07:55] <The_BROS> Ben64: you mean 10.04?
[07:55] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Try changing the boot order so that a different drive is first (or if your BIOS has a one time boot menu option that would probably be easier/faster). Try with each drive (whether you think it makes sense for that drive to boot Ubuntu or not) until one works. If none work then come back and use my nick (Jordan_U) in your comment so I see it. Please trust me on this and just try it.
[07:55] <xpurple> I setup spamassasin and setup emails spam@xxx.com and ham@xxx.com for people bounch mail to for training. Then a cron job for sa-learn.  This should work, right?
[07:55] <th_> Ben64: 10.04 doesn't even install on quite big range of new hardware
[07:55] <Ben64> The_BROS: that is the current one, yes
[07:55] <th_> like mine
[07:55] <Ben64> th_: like what
[07:56] <ryannathans> What do i do? http://pastebin.com/SUnFQpYB
[07:56] <wrenny> so it may have installed grub on another drive?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> wrenny: Correct.
[07:56] <th_> simply because parted has segfault bug which concerns huge amount of new hard disks, and this is fixe only in 11.04 and above, and haven't been backported to 10.04.3 iso's
[07:56] <OY1R> q: how would i set up ubuntu for kids, thinking safe web browsing ?
[07:57] <th_> and it's not just partitioning, you can't proceed with installer as parted segfaults right from reading the disk
[07:57] <usr13> OY1R: You could use a filter on the browser.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> OY1R: #edubuntu might have people more familiar with that type of thing.
[07:57] <th_> for example all spinpoints and long range of ssd's make parted to segfault
[07:57] <wrenny> i see no new partition on any drive except my 1st drive
[07:57] <OY1R> thanks
[07:57] <Edogaa> Oh
[07:57] <Kalidarn> is there anything specific i have to do to make AHCI work with grub?
[07:57] <Companion> xpurple, I admire you for owning xxx.com
[07:57] <Edogaa> October 13th!
[07:57] <xpurple> Companion: Hahahaha, example :)
[07:57] <xpurple> Companion: Anyway, that should work, right?
[07:57] <Edogaa> I thought it was OCTOBER 12TH
[07:57] <Lasers> wrenny: I find it easier to shut down. Unplug all Internal HDD that you're not going to install OS on. (Keeping OS and Personal Consumption separate). When it comes to bootloader, select manually. Make sure you remember which /dev/sda (or /dev/sdb) -- You'll see which is your primary HDD when you're doing partition stuffs.
[07:58] <Companion> xpurple, lemme read
[07:58] <Companion> xpurple, there is an easyer method
[07:58] <xpurple> Companion: Oh?
[07:58] <Companion> xpurple, when installing Virtualmin (Webmin Fork) you can let it auto configure Spam Assassin
[07:58] <vlt> i2c: I don't know the "right way" to tell the two other linux PCs to use the first one for updates ... but I did something like that by syncing the /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory from one to the other machines after having installed updates.
[07:58] <wrenny> i saw nothing in the install Of Ubuntu that gave any option for a bootloaded
[07:58] <camil_> hi. does any of you know some irc channel for support in c programming?
[07:59] <usr13> OY1R: I use FoxFilter  for the one I built for kids.  There are others.  See:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/es?q=parental+control&cat=all
[07:59] <wrenny> or even a drive
[07:59] <Companion> xpurple, and its easyer to manage website/e-mails etc
[07:59] <vlt> i2c: So when you run update on the other machines the needed packages are already there and don't need to be downloaded agin.
[07:59] <vlt> *again
[07:59] <Kalidarn> is there anything specific i have to do to make AHCI work with grub?
[07:59] <DJones> camil_: I think the channel is ##C
[07:59] <Jordan_U> wrenny: The portion of grub in question is in the boot sector and post-mbr gap, not in any partition. Please follow my instructions and just trust me. I won't be here much longer but I'd like to help you.
[08:00] <sanduz2> why is oneric not being advertised anywhere if its going to release tomorrow?
[08:00] <OY1R> usr13, thanks
[08:00] <vlt> sanduz2: Why should it?
[08:00] <usr13> wrenny: The bootloader does not occupy a new partition.
[08:00] <xpurple> Companion: Hmm, I'd prefer nothing they have to login to as my users are not very tech savy.
[08:00] <sanduz2> vlt, they usually have a count down or something on the front page at least
[08:00] <wrenny> ok
[08:00] <usr13> wrenny: do as Jordan_U suggested.
[08:00] <wrenny> brb
[08:00] <camil_> DJones - "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[08:00] <Companion> xpurple, they wont have to login, you can set it up & you can do the work for them
[08:00] <Jordan_U> !register | camil_
[08:01] <DJones> camil_: You'll need to register your nick with freenode and identify
[08:01] <camil_> 10x!
[08:01] <sanduz2> so at what time is ubuntu 11.10 releasing?
[08:01] <i2c> vlt: thanks I'll give it ago
[08:01] <Companion> xpurple, you can also set it up that way that it goes trough > POP3 > Spam Assassin > Forward
[08:01] <_ramo> hi
[08:02] <xpurple> Companion: I currently have them pop mail so the mboxes are empty when I check them except at night when the shop is closed.
[08:02] <Lasers> sanduz2: There are no official release time.
[08:02] <_ramo> how do i install a .bin file in ubuntu 10.04? i've tried with sudo thefile.bin but i jost got a "command not found"
[08:02] <Companion> xpurple, ah that bycicle
[08:02] <usr13> _ramo: You run it.
[08:02] <Jordan_U> _ramo: What are you actually trying to install?
[08:03] <usr13> _ramo: You more-than-likely will need to enable executable bit on it first. What is it?
[08:03] <Ibis> Hey, will there by any chance be a Windows Ubuntu Installer for 11.10 by any chance? When it does come out?
[08:03] <xpurple> Companion: Yes, so long as what I have works I'm happy.  Easy enough to train 20 or so people to bounce messages.
[08:03] <Ibis> I want to get a friend into Ubuntu.
[08:03] <_ramo> usr13: Jordan_U it's http://bitnami.org/stack/redmine#nativeInstaller the native installer for linux
[08:03] <_ramo> i did a chmod a+x on the file before
[08:03] <_ramo> but still the same effect
[08:04] <Companion> xpurple, I made it too easy for the people at my work, now they fired me cause I am no longer needed :')
[08:04] <phlak_user> !info redmine > _ramo
[08:04] <usr13> Ibis: 11.04 is new enough.
[08:04] <MonkeyDust> Ibis: beter learn by using the live cd
[08:04] <TehDGM> Ibis: wubi?
[08:04] <xpurple> Companion: hahahaha
[08:04] <_ramo> phlak_user: this version is too old
[08:04] <Ibis> TehDGM: Yes.
[08:04] <cypha> Jordan_U, Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu?
[08:04] <Ibis> MonkeyDust: It's not for me.
[08:05] <Companion> xpurple, its real simple I setup Virtualmin + Usermin made a skin/theme that is idiot proof and it works :)
[08:05] <Ibis> MonkeyDust: I got the real deal installed, I want to show a new friend linux.
[08:05] <xpurple> Companion: I will do some reading on that.
[08:05] <TehDGM> get him a cdrom then :P
[08:05] <xpurple> Companion: Thank you!
[08:05] <Jordan_U> _ramo: BitNami is not supported. Please just use Ubuntu packaged components instead.
[08:05] <TehDGM> you can even order them for free if you dont want/cant burn them
[08:05] <phlak_user> _ramo: ok, did you chmod +x filename and then run it by sudo ./filename
[08:05] <Companion> xpurple, its np, virtualmin also supports Pop3 and such and has a great overview on spamassasin and such
[08:05] <_ramo> Jordan_U: it is a bitnami image on a amazon instance
[08:06] <_ramo> phlak_user: yes i did
[08:06] <phlak_user> _ramo: ./ also?
[08:06] <_ramo> phlak_user: all i got is:  sudo bitnami-subversion-1.6.15-0-linux-installer.bin sudo: bitnami-subversion-1.6.15-0-linux-installer.bin: command not found
[08:06] <Jordan_U> _ramo: BitNami is not supported here.
[08:06] <_ramo> Jordan_U: okay
[08:06]  * xpurple sleeps
[08:06] <_ramo> phlak_user: this works
[08:06] <wrenny> i deleted all new partitions created and I'd like to start over. How can I delete the hiding grub install too?
[08:07] <phlak_user> _ramo: of course it does :)
[08:07] <_ramo> ;)
[08:07] <TehDGM> when you reinstall it will overwrite your grub
[08:07] <phlak_user> wrenny: whats that?
[08:07] <usr13> wrenny: Why didn't you do as Jordan_U  suggested?
[08:08] <Lasers> wrenny: It resides on the first 512kb, really tiny. Do what Jordan_U suggested. Stop pretending.
[08:08] <usr13> wrenny: You will find the information you need here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2
[08:08] <wrenny> I dont want to change my boot order ,  Why isnt the install smart enough just to ask where I want it installed?
[08:08] <usr13> wrenny: You don'
[08:09] <Jordan_U> wrenny: If you use the manual partitioning option then you will be asked where to install grub. You can also install grub wherever you want manually after install (from the liveCD).
[08:10] <Lasers> wrenny: It's a known (and confirmed) bug with debian-installer.
[08:10] <usr13> wrenny: You don't have to change the boot order perminately.  Jordan_U just suggested doing it temporarily so that you can boot into Ubuntu and install the boot loader on the correct drive.
[08:10] <cypha> Jordan_U, any reason you've been ignoring me?
[08:10] <wrenny> usr13 yea i never even saw a boot menu at all after installing Ubuntu
[08:11] <Jordan_U> cypha: I haven't been. I'm just juggling a lot of things at the moment. "Try Ubuntu"
[08:11] <wrenny> i do see in Windows that my D:drive is drive 0 but windows is on 1
[08:11] <usr13> wrenny: You need to get Ubuntu bootet back up so that you can repair the boot loader, (so that you can install it on the correct drive).
[08:12] <cypha> Jordan_U, k, well, ctrl and caps lock are normal in there
[08:12] <cypha> I also installed debian
[08:12] <cypha> normal in there as well
[08:12] <wrenny> If I try to now install Ubuntu fresh again can I do it correctly the 1st time now?
[08:12] <wrenny> and what must a do differnt
[08:12] <usr13> wrenny: You will find the information you need here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2
[08:13] <Lasers> wrenny: You may have to install Ubuntu to USB again because it is possible that the USB have been set up with bootloader from grub-install.
[08:13] <bubblegum> I have a question and I hope I can word it correctly...
[08:13] <almoxarife> wrenny: is another os on the disk?
[08:13] <bubblegum> can only a child process of a parent process be in a "defunct" state or can a parent process be like that as well?
[08:13] <viki> how to update gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.04
[08:13] <wrenny> win7
[08:13] <wrenny> on C:
[08:13] <Lasers> !gnome3 | viki
[08:14] <Jordan_U> Lasers: Ubuntu's installer is smart enough not to install grub to external drives (unless of course you're installing the rest of Ubuntu to said external drive).
[08:14] <wrenny> I did the util last night and put the live CD on a usb thumb drive
[08:14] <almoxarife> wrenny: when you power up what comes up first, grub or MBR?
[08:14] <wrenny> installed from that exactly by the web site instructions
[08:15] <usr13> wrenny: You can boot the LiveCD or USB thumb drive and repair as needed.
[08:15] <wrenny> noothing
[08:15] <wrenny> it just loads windows
[08:15] <wrenny> no menu
[08:15] <viki> Lasers thanks for suggestion
[08:15] <HackNewton> hello
[08:15] <Jordan_U> wrenny: If you follow my instructions Ubuntu will boot. I could have helped you get grub onto whatever drive you wanted but I need to leave now. Good luck.
[08:15] <Lasers> Jordan_U: Bugs are bugs. We don't know if he/she use GUI installer or text-based installer. I speak from experiences with text-based installer that it's best to select it manually because some hardwares treats the usb as /dev/sda (as the first device).
[08:16] <wrenny> I will install again
[08:16] <HackNewton> does anyone know how to update python to 3.x
[08:16] <almoxarife> wrenny: have you had a good install of ubuntu already?
[08:16] <wrenny> hopelully I can find an option of what drive its gonna put the install onto
[08:16] <Lasers> viki: If you really want to try Gnome3, get it from Fedora.
[08:16] <wrenny> i saw nothing
[08:17] <Lasers> viki: Run it in Virtualbox at least!
[08:17] <usr13> almoxarife: He doesn't know,  he has been unable to boot it.
[08:17] <wrenny> I installed it fine, all looked good, then after a rebbot it just loaded windows and I saw no menu option to load Ubuntu
[08:17] <honey> hey guys  i have linux 10.04 and i would like to share folders to any computer whchi is  not in local but it is also window based how can i share the folder to window?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> wrenny: If you do decide to select where to install grub manually do *not* select a partition. Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the mbr (e.g. /dev/sda and *not* /dev/sda1).
[08:17] <PsyCl0ne> Could someone help me with my Lubuntu install and why it doesnt output any sound?
[08:17] <Lasers> wrenny: Stupid question. Try plugging in the USB and reboot your machine. You could see the GRUB if you boot up the USB again.
[08:17] <viki> laser: then which gui is better for  ubuntu 11.04
[08:18] <HackNewton> honey, you mean ubuntu 10.04>
[08:18] <almoxarife> wrenny: you want to be careful, don't lose win7 too
[08:18] <wrenny> maybe
[08:18] <wrenny> if I leave the usb stick in
[08:18] <usr13> honey: Share files with what?  Another Linux PC?  Another MS Windows PC?
[08:18] <wrenny> yea
[08:18] <honey> HackNewton: yes
[08:19] <wrenny> brb
[08:19] <Lasers> viki: There are !de (desktop environment). What I use -- I'm comfortable with.... may not be the same thing you're comfortable with. There are Gnome, KDE, LXDE, awesome, XFCE, etc.
[08:19] <usr13> honey: You are wanting to share files with another Windows PC on your LAN?  Is that what you want to do?
[08:19] <almoxarife> honey: in nautilus right click on the folder and then click on sharing
[08:19] <honey> usr13:another Ms windows Pc
[08:19] <usr13> !samba | honey
[08:20] <almoxarife> usr13: nautilus is a much simpler method
[08:20] <viki> laser: thanks
[08:20] <Lasers> viki: Gnome3 uses Gnome3. Ubuntu use Unity.
[08:20] <usr13> almoxarife: Tell honey
[08:20] <Lasers> !unity | viki
[08:20] <almoxarife> usr13: did
[08:21] <honey> usr13:i would like to share to window machine in my ubuntu machine alrady i install ssh
[08:22] <usr13> almoxarife: Very good. Now he knows, there are two methods.  (Thanks for telling me, I've not used Nautilus method.)
[08:22] <cypha> Jordan_U, so what's the next step?
[08:22] <almoxarife> honey: the machines are on a local network?
[08:22] <Jordan_U> cypha: I don't know.
[08:23] <honey> almoxarife:it is not on local network
[08:23] <cypha> Jordan_U, did I tell you that I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d
[08:23] <jenk> Hi ! I have Ubuntu 11.04 on an HP Mini 110 but it freezes at bootup. Any help ? I was told to blacklist the b43 driver from the boot menu. How do I( do that ?
[08:23] <usr13> honey: almoxarife wants to know if they are both connected to the same router or switch.  So they are not?  Well, maybe you need to describe your LAN.
[08:24] <cypha> I can't tell where it's reading the info from though
[08:25] <almoxarife> honey: what type of network setup is it?
[08:25] <honey> almoxarife:?
[08:26] <usr13> honey: He needs to know how these two computers are connected to the network.  Can you describe your network?
[08:26] <almoxarife> honey: describe the network configuration you have that needs the machines talking to each other
[08:27] <despe70> what is the difference between "ubuntu", and "ubuntu server" ? and how can I find out which of the two I'm running ?
[08:27] <honey> they are in different routers
[08:27] <honey> almoxarife:they are in different routers
[08:27] <usr13> honey: That will be a problem.
[08:27] <MonkeyDust> despe70: server is partitioned differently and it has no GUI
[08:27] <hje841> Using waf to build a NS-3 simulation in Natty 64-bit I get this error: http://pastebin.com/VhGyuqMz any suggestions?
[08:27] <jenk> Hi ! How do I disable the b43 module from being loaded at startup in the Grub menu ?
[08:27] <almoxarife> honey: does one router provide dhcp for the rest of the routers?
[08:28] <usr13> honey: Do you have any type of tunneling set up?  Can they ssh or ping each other?
[08:28] <MonkeyDust> despe70: and other packages are installed by default
[08:28] <usr13> honey: Tell us the IP addresses of the two machines.
[08:28] <usr13> the inside IP addresses of each.
[08:28] <honey> ok waite aminute
[08:28] <despe70> MonkeyDust: k, can I find out which one I'm running ? I didn't install it myself and it's still hardy ... considering upgrading, but I want to make sure to follow the correct track
[08:29] <MonkeyDust> despe70: type lsb_release -a
[08:29] <almoxarife> usr13: that's a better way of asking
[08:29] <Derpadong> You guys have ops?
[08:29] <usr13> Derpadong: Sure, what do you need?
[08:29] <Derpadong> cause id say kickban evva
[08:29] <Derpadong> evva is a bot
[08:29] <despe70> MonkeyDust: that says "distributor id: ubuntu, description ubuntu 8.04"
[08:30] <despe70> monkeydust: so it's the "regular" ubuntu ?
[08:30] <th_> that's old LTS release
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> despe70: seems so, 8.04 is an LTS
[08:30] <usr13> Derpadong: We'll let them know.
[08:30] <Derpadong> Okay
[08:30] <th_> you can upgrade directly to 10.04, which is next (and current) LTS
[08:30] <th_> i'd recommend skipping non-LTS releases =P
[08:31] <Derpadong> I just came in and evva messaged me with a link and said sex
[08:31] <honey> usr13:for the ubuntu=10.128.60.142 and for windows=10.124.99.93
[08:31] <Derpadong> Lol
[08:31] <Derpadong> I love this dualboot for the cr48
[08:31] <despe70> k thx
[08:32] <cypha> I'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?
[08:32] <Derpadong> So is there a way to change the look the notify-osd?
[08:33] <jenk> Hi ! How do I disable the b43 module from being loaded at startup in the Grub menu ?
[08:34] <almoxarife> honey: can those two machines see each other?
[08:34] <honey> almoxarife:no
[08:36] <almoxarife> honey: are the two routers sharing the same router ahead of them?
[08:37] <jenk> Hey !! How can I prevent the b43 module from being loaded at startup ? Which part of the Grub menu do I edit ?
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> jenk: b43** is broadcom, right? it is not being loaded in the grub, imho
[08:38] <hje841> How do I submit a bug in Natty?
[08:38] <atomx> can I capture a stream like this     rtsp://video.cpm.jussieu.fr/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1.smil     into a video file  ?
[08:38] <atomx> (in ubuntu)
[08:39] <MonkeyDust> !bug| hje841
[08:39] <cypha> I'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log--> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d , but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?
[08:39] <jenk> MonkeyDust, Yes, it's the driver for Broadcom. Following this post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467734 I found that I have to disable it from being loaded, from the Grub menu.
[08:40] <almoxarife> honey: take a look at https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/ ubuntu support as well as windows
[08:42] <KamZou> Hi, i've a Bind9 with a (new) MySQL Backend, and i'm wondering why when i do this command : "host nnnnn.whatever.mydomain.lan"  i get multiple entries, do you know why ?
[08:42] <KamZou> drgdrgd.php5.loc has address 192.168.1.217
[08:42] <KamZou> Host drgdrgd.php5.loc not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[08:42] <KamZou> Host drgdrgd.php5.loc not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[08:42] <jenk> MonkeyDust, Any inputs ?
[08:42] <FloodBot1> KamZou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <despe70> I'm trying to upgrade my webserver from 8.04 to 10.04.  I'm following the LucidUpgrades info for it (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades). However, when I start do-release-upgrade, this tells me that it's unsafe to do it over SSH.  I only have SSH access to the server - should I just go ahead, or is there a better solution ?
[08:44] <iceroot> despe70: use ssh + screen!
[08:44] <iceroot> despe70: with screen it is safe
[08:44] <despe70> k
[08:44] <MonkeyDust> jenk: i checked it, can't say, kindly repeat your initial question, maybe someone else can help
[08:46] <jenk> Hi !! How do I disable the b43/ssb module from being loaded at startup ?
[08:46] <iceroot> despe70: but i dont know what is happening when screen get updated but its defnitly safer then just using ssh
[08:47] <almoxarife> jenk: is this what you arew looking for >>> from your link>>> I restarted and when presented with the Grub screen, I pressed "e" to edit the startup options, and added "blacklist b43" at the end of the list of options. This allowed the Mini to boot successfully.
[08:47] <feisar_> there is a modules black list
[08:47] <iceroot> !blacklist | jenk
[08:47] <despe70> iceroot: i'm running in screen now and didn't get teh complaint from the do-release-upgrade, so they consider it safer too
[08:47] <feisar_> jenk: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[08:47] <despe70> or the check is unreliable :)
[08:48] <iceroot> despe70: the check cant see that you are using ssh when inside screen
[08:48] <jenk> almoxarife, Exactly ! Only thing, I don't know where to put that line.
[08:48] <feisar_> I'd like my Ubuntu server 11.10 to notify my via email if a reboot is required due to automatic updating. What is the best way of achieving this?
[08:49] <jenk> feisar_, That's not possible as I cannot boot into Ubuntu, neither from the recovery mode. I need to blacklist the b43/ssb module or prevent it from being lo9aded at startup, in order to boot. Thanks, though.
[08:49] <almoxarife> jenk: grub screen? press 'e'?? or that is not an option?
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> feisar_: with ksplice, you do not have to reboot the server after a kernel upgrade - ksplice is now property of oracle
[08:50] <iceroot> feisar_: "debian-goodies"
[08:50] <iceroot> feisar_: there is a script which is telling you that a restart is needed
[08:50] <jenk> almoxarife, I can do that, but where do I add the " blacklist b43 ssb" option ? At the end ? At the beginning ?
[08:50] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: there are still reasons to reboot the system, even with ksplice
[08:50] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: e.g. dbus-update, libc-update
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> ok
[08:51] <almoxarife> jenk: again from your link>> edit the startup options, and added "blacklist b43" at the end of the list of options
[08:52] <almoxarife> jenk: your link says 'b43' you typed 'b43 ssb' there may be an issue there
[08:52] <jenk> almoxarife, At the end ? As in, on a new line ? Or continuing from the last line ? Do I have to precede it with a '-' like "-blacklist b43 ssb" ?
[08:53] <cypha> I'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log--> https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d , but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?
[08:53] <jenk> almoxarife, I'm trying to blacklist both.
[08:53] <feisar_> MonkeyDust: thanks but it would still be good to know if a reboot is needed
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> feisar_: see iceroot's advice :)
[08:54] <feisar_> does anyone know if it is possible to be notified via emai if a system reboot is needed?
[08:54] <iceroot> feisar_: i already told you
[08:54] <iceroot> feisar_: debian-goodies
[08:55] <zzzz> cpu
[08:55] <almoxarife> jenk: perhaps someone needs to investigate the particulars of grub line editing, specific to their needs, I know I do it alottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[08:56] <feisar_> iceroot: oh great stuff, thanks
[08:56] <jenk> almoxarife, K, thanks, though. Any other ideas ?
[08:57] <almoxarife> jenk: do what I do, read then read then read it again, btw, I suggest blacklisting one at a time, but its your makina
[08:57] <zzzz> test 123
[08:58] <jenk> almoxarife, Alright, as you say. Thanks ! :)
[09:00] <frewo64> hi. who is the master of this channel? i just got junk from a visitor here
[09:00] <almoxarife> evva?
[09:00] <almoxarife> bad bot
[09:00] <Ben64> frewo64: you can report them in #ubuntu-ops
[09:02] <frewo64> Ben64: ok, i do. oh, now the visitor is gone  ^^^: natasha-> hii sex http://livecam.de.vc
[09:02] <Myrtti> please don't repeat the spam messages here
[09:02] <almoxarife> I don't ever get msgs from bots
[09:02] <Myrtti> you might get kickbanned by mistake - instead report them at #ubuntu-ops
[09:02] <Myrtti> thank you
[09:02] <frewo64> ok
[09:05] <somsip> Myrtti: there was another report of this earlier - same bot was reported for sex messages
[09:05] <love> The internal mic on my laptop works great with Ubuntu 11.10 beta2 but is so noisy it is unusable in 11.04 what gives? Can I install what ever is making it work in 11.10 in 11.04?
[09:05] <rww> somsip: It's being dealt with.
[09:05] <somsip> rww: k
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> love: in Terminal, type alsamixer
[09:06] <david_> @ratio eu
[09:08] <love> MonkeyDust,  I have been here many times before, tuning up the mic in alsamixer just turns up the noise, this is a driver noise cancellation issue not a gain issue
[09:09] <wrenny> yea I'm getting partition errors when I try to install Ubuntu says can't create partition or something
[09:09] <wrenny> i think I saw that last night too
[09:10] <wrenny> but it let me continue with the install, but after reboot nothing
[09:10] <c[_]> why wont Banshee play music but the Movie Player will?
[09:11] <c[_]> there is an error saying Broken pipe [EPIPE]
[09:14] <wrenny> but then I go into Windows and I do see partitions created so I dunno
[09:20] <ubuntu_> hi all
[09:21] <ryannathans> trying to build aacraid drivers, dkms, get this, http://pastebin.com/Kut1fYHm
[09:22] <Cheery> due to having a nonstandard windowing environment, I don't have system menu.. what system is responsible to desktop audio effects, and how do I kill/annihilate/decimate it?
[09:22] <Johnny_Giggles> is there a straightforward way of reading an HFS+ volume on 11.04?
[09:22] <rabbi1> how to share a file from ubuntu server (remote) ?
[09:23] <love> I am disappointed that this noise cancellation issue an the internal laptop mic in Ubuntu 11.04 hasn't been patched
[09:25] <love> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353806
[09:25] <airtonix> love: oh ok
[09:25] <TvL2386> hi guys, How can I rename interfaces in 10.04.3? I used to just change 'eth0' to 'mynic' in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, but it is empty?
[09:25] <love> So I have to use windows just to just to use Skype
[09:26] <TvL2386> love, I'm using skype on my laptop (11.04)
[09:26] <airtonix> love: i think you're offtopic here or confusing this with the bug report interface
[09:26] <airtonix> love: or were you actually asking for help on something?
[09:26] <love> TvL2386, what is your audio chipset?
[09:27] <TvL2386> love, Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[09:27] <TvL2386> love, it also says this in lspci: Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[09:28] <TvL2386> love, Sony Vaio laptop
[09:28] <love> airtonix, yes I would like very much to know how to "patch" the ALSA driver so that it correctly noise cancels my internal microphone so people can actually here me.
[09:28] <PhoenixSTF> hello, i am running out of memory during a fsck on a 4*500gb raid 5
[09:29] <PhoenixSTF> anyway to get this around
[09:29] <gry> What can I use to play amr audio files on Ubuntu?
[09:29] <sebsebseb> hi
[09:30] <gry> hi sebsebseb
[09:30] <sebsebseb> gry: hi
[09:31] <despe70> still upgrading 8.04 to 10.04, and following the manual at LucidUpgrades. That mentions: "you may need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default boot kernel to the newly installed 10.04 kernel". I checked that file, and it contains only references to 10.04. That should be fine then ?
[09:31] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, how much ram do you have?
[09:31] <th_> despe70: yup
[09:31] <PhoenixSTF> compdoc, 6gb plus 1.2gb of swap
[09:31] <TvL2386> alright, I've just copied a rule from 70-persistent-net.rules from another ubuntu host, changed the mac, rebooted and seems to work
[09:31] <reisio> 1.2, interesting number
[09:31] <iceroot> despe70: its fine and normally its done automaticly
[09:31] <despe70> k
[09:31] <love> TvL2386, cool, doesn't look like my audio device even shows up with lspci
[09:31] <despe70> so I can now just run "reboot" ?
[09:32] <iceroot> despe70: there are no extra steps needed. is the guide an official ubuntu-guide?
[09:32] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, I dont see why it would run out of ram with that much. its a 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[09:32] <TvL2386> love, so I suppose your issue is that you have no sound?
[09:32] <despe70> iceroot: yes, at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[09:32] <_ramo> did anyone of you set up sendmail to send simple mails from a server?
[09:32] <iceroot> despe70: ok
[09:32] <rabbi1> how can i share a file from ubuntu server remotely?
[09:32] <reisio> rabbi1: why
[09:32] <TvL2386> _ramo, I always use ssmtp
[09:32] <PhoenixSTF> comdoc, 64 bit of debian, but they have run out of options so i came here
[09:33] <TvL2386> _ramo, very easy, no hastle
[09:33] <_ramo> TvL2386: yeah, but all i've done was sudo apt-get install sendmail and sudo sendmailconfig
[09:33] <_ramo> no experience with this
[09:33] <meco> Is it possible to amplify the volume in the headphones, using software, beyond what I get from using pavucontrol?
[09:33] <love> It shows my HDMI audio device but not my onboard audio chip seems to be hidden by that that intel HD biso
[09:33] <iceroot> meco: alsamixer
[09:33] <reisio> meco: pavucontrol should be enough...
[09:33] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, are you running fsck at boot?
[09:33] <TvL2386> _ramo, all I know is that setting up sendmail is a bit of a challange.
[09:33] <_ramo> TvL2386: do i miss something?
[09:33] <reisio> meco: you might try mplayer -af volume=10 though
[09:33] <reisio> meco: start with 10, it's a lot
[09:33] <PhoenixSTF> compdoc, nop how do i do that'
[09:33] <jivjiv> Hi I got following error. How do I resolve? http://pastebin.com/28s78xUk.
[09:34] <love> No TvL2386, I have always had sound
[09:34] <TvL2386> love, if you're using hdmi out, you have to select it in sound preferences?
[09:34] <meco> Well, I'm watching a YouTube video, so mplayer is out of the question, I suppose.
[09:34] <love> I am not using TvL2386 the HDMI audio out
[09:34] <KamZou> Hi, i've a Bind9 with a (new) MySQL Backend, and i'm wondering why when i do this command : "host nnnnn.whatever.mydomain.lan"  i get multiple entries, do you know why ?
[09:34] <iceroot> jivjiv: you are compiling at your own?
[09:35] <TvL2386> _ramo I have no experience setting up sendmail, so I don't know what you're doing wrong...
[09:35] <jivjiv> iceroot : yes firefox
[09:35] <reisio> meco: well you could download it with downloadhelper and play it, but yeah potentially inconvenient
[09:35] <love> TvL2386, I never use it, it is just there okay
[09:35] <reisio> meco: pavucontrol doesn't produce any change?
[09:35] <iceroot> jivjiv: why not just using the firefox from the repos?
[09:35] <TvL2386> so love, you used to have audio, but the device disappeared
[09:35] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, depending on the options you have in fstab, its normally:  sudo shutdown -rF now
[09:35] <meco> reisio: I already have pavucontrol at maximum
[09:35] <love> TvL2386, I always have audio
[09:35] <reisio> meco: but it did make a difference?
[09:35] <jivjiv> jivjiv : I have modified the code a bit now I have moved code to new machine. But there areissues
[09:35] <iceroot> meco: use alsamixer
[09:36] <iceroot> meco: pulseaudio is "just" working on top of alsa
[09:36] <jivjiv> iceroot : I have modified the code a bit now I have moved code to new machine. But there areissues
[09:36] <meco> reisio: Well, no, since it was already at maximum before the current need arose...
[09:36] <reisio> meco: okay... so if you lower the volume it changes?
[09:36] <love> TvL2386, The issue is that my internal mic is not usable because the noise cancellation is not working in Ubuntu 11.04
[09:36] <iceroot> jivjiv: as it seems you are missing files/packages. install the packages the error is suggesting
[09:36] <meco> alsamixer does it nicely!
[09:37] <PhoenixSTF> compdoc, ok thanks, how do i check how many inodes i have on the FS
[09:37] <TvL2386> love, I see....
[09:37] <meco> reisio: Sure, pavucontrol works
[09:37] <love> It works fine in 11.10 beta 2
[09:37] <compdoc> PhoenixSTF, Ive never had to know that
[09:37] <jivjiv> iceroot : am very much new to ubuntu. Can you give me the exact apt-get install line to execute. I have been searching ubuntu packages but without success
[09:37] <PhoenixSTF> compdoc, np ^ thnaks anyway
[09:37] <Companion> does 11.11 has Gnome 3.2? :O
[09:37] <love> But it is not stable enough for me for day to day work
[09:38] <reisio> so pavucontrol isn't aware of alsa's volume levels? :p
[09:38] <reisio> bit daft
[09:38] <meco> seems so
[09:38] <love> I am searching for a fix but am not coming up with anything
[09:38] <TvL2386> love, maybe this helps (don't think so): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1763536
[09:39] <TvL2386> love http://blog.mageprojects.com/2009/03/24/get-your-microphone-working-in-ubuntu-904-and-skype-x64/
[09:40] <iceroot> jivjiv: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:40] <Johnny_Giggles> I want a quick way of pastebinning code from the command line.  Is there a command that lets me copy a file to clipboard?
[09:41] <gry> Johnny_Giggles: 'pastebinit'
[09:41] <Johnny_Giggles> gry, I don't think ##c likes pastebin.org
[09:41] <iceroot> Johnny_Giggles: echo "foo" | pastebinit
[09:41] <jivjiv> iceroot : thanks.
[09:42] <love> I just can't believe that this issue has been left unchanged in 11.04 for soooooo long!
[09:42] <rabbi1> reisio: need to send a file of 200 MB
[09:42] <gry> Johnny_Giggles: it can use different pastebins as you configure it to. :-)
[09:42] <love> Anyone here running 11.10 beta 2?
[09:43] <reisio> rabbi1: to where?
[09:43] <reisio> rabbi1: is it a web server?
[09:43] <rabbi1> reisio: from Bangalore to Belgium
[09:43] <gry> love: ask #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:43] <sebsebseb> !!love
[09:43] <reisio> rabbi1: that's awfully B-y
[09:43] <sebsebseb> !11.10 | love
[09:43] <love> gry, sure
[09:43] <compdoc> love, I tried to use it: I installed it and then tried to set up Virtualbox. wasnt working
[09:43] <gry> love, good luck there. :-)
[09:44] <love> compdoc, I've had VB working just fine on it
[09:44] <compdoc> love, wait until its released
[09:44] <reisio> rabbi1: you could use scp
[09:44] <rabbi1> reisio: i have ubuntu server with net connection, now got to send/  share a file of 200 MB. so that the other person can download.
[09:44] <reisio> rabbi1: what OS is the other person on?
[09:45] <love> Wow so I ether have to reinstall windows or wait until 10.11 is released just so I can use my internal mic on my laptop
[09:46] <rabbi1> reisio: not sure, guess as Windows/ Mac
[09:46] <rabbi1> scp is only for intranet right
[09:46] <reisio> rabbi1: and the Ubuntu Server isn't a web server?
[09:46] <love> Sure wish I was raised as a Linux developer\
[09:46] <reisio> rabbi1: no it's for any ssh client/server
[09:46] <reisio> love: I wish I was raised as supreme world overlord
[09:46] <reisio> ...developer
[09:47] <gry> love: Feel free to try the beta and add any drivers you like. If they're stable, they may be added to 11.10 release.
[09:47] <compdoc> 11.10 is to be released real soon now
[09:47] <reisio> love: technically if there's something 11.10 can do, you can make it work with whatever version you have now
[09:48] <reisio> love: you found some bug and they said it's fixed in 11.10 ?
[09:48] <love> gry, it is more like I want to mod the driver some how in 11.04
[09:48] <rabbi1> reisio: ubuntu server is a webserver
[09:48] <love> reisio, now we are talking!
[09:48] <gry> love: Feel free to do so. If this works better, you could try to open a bug and attach the patch.
[09:48] <gry> !bugs | love
[09:48] <flexxxv> hey, how do i get a kernel patch to 11.10?
[09:48] <reisio> rabbi1: okay, just put the file in your htdocs somewhere, then
[09:48] <gry> flexxxv: Ask #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:48] <reisio> rabbi1: and give your friend the URI (http://domain.tld/path/to/file)
[09:49] <Operaist2> i have a folder with a bunch of subfolders, i want to use cp -r ./[!b] ./backup; but how come this doesn't work?
[09:49] <flexxxv> gry
[09:49] <flexxxv> gry:ok thx
[09:49] <rabbi1> reisio: o, ok that can be done, great brb then
[09:49] <reisio> Operaist2: hrmm?
[09:49] <jrib> Operaist2: what do you expect it to do?
[09:49] <love> reisio, no I just tried 11.10 for a while and was sooooo sooooo happy that I could use my internal mic!
[09:49] <love> It was so clear and noise free!
[09:50] <Operaist2> jrib: i expect it to copy every other folders into the backup folder
[09:50] <gry> love: Ok. This is stable support channel - please do not discuss 11.10 here. You could try #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-devel for the other stuff. Thank you.
[09:50] <jrib> Operaist2: what does "every other folders" mean?
[09:51] <Operaist2> jrib: pretty sure every other folder is self-explanatory
[09:51] <jrib> Operaist2: not really.  What do you expect your "./[!b]" to do?
[09:51] <Operaist2> everything that doesnt start with b?
[09:51] <love> gry, so do you have any ideas how to mod the audio driver in 11.04 to make the noise cancellation work correctly on my internal mic?
[09:51] <reisio> love: chances are it's only a difference with the kernel or alsa versions
[09:52] <jrib> Operaist2: it means every file that is exactly one character long and that character is not "b"
[09:52] <love> reisio, yeah true that
[09:52] <gry> love: Sorry, I am not a developer myself, neither I know anything about Ubuntu 11.10, sorry. Other channels may know more.
[09:52] <love> gry sure
[09:53] <gry> love: They must have a changes list somewhere, but I really don't know where, and they have a #ubuntu+1 to ask about this.
[09:54] <NuxRo> hi, which version would you recommend for laptop use (lower specs laptop), 10.04 or 11.04 ?
[09:54] <reisio> NuxRo: define 'lower specs'
[09:54] <gry> NuxRo: What specs?
[09:55] <NuxRo> celeron cpu, 1 gb ram
[09:55] <compdoc> I think 11.04 is faster, and has more drivers
[09:55] <reisio> NuxRo: celeron is nonspecific, do you have a model number?
[09:55] <zaapiel> 11.10 running gnome 3 with compiz out the arse
[09:55] <zaapiel> thats what i recommend
[09:55] <soreau> NuxRo: probably 10.04 since it's LTS and your machine likely has older intel gfx
[09:55] <gry> NuxRo: You might consider Lubuntu or Xubuntu in your choices there.
[09:55] <NuxRo> i read 11 has some nasty regressions in power usage and boot speed
[09:55] <NuxRo> i dont have a specific celeron model
[09:55] <iceroot> NuxRo: 11.04 has the bug also like 10.10
[09:55] <reisio> NuxRo: are you on IRC with this system right now?
[09:55] <compdoc> easy enough to try both
[09:56] <NuxRo> reisio: no
[09:56] <NuxRo> compdoc: yeah, i think i'll try both
[09:56] <NuxRo> cheers
[09:56] <reisio> well, really hard to say
[09:56] <reisio> "celeron" covers like ... 700MHz to 2GHz+
[09:56] <NuxRo> reisio: it's more recent, probably in the 2 GHz range
[09:56] <reisio> 1GB RAM isn't great, though, you can probably augment that on the cheap, though
[09:57] <reisio> NuxRo: see if crucial.com has any good deals for the ram right now, then you can use whatever without worry
[09:57] <reisio> just another gig would vastly improve that box
[09:57] <NuxRo> reisio: but with it as it is (the owner is not interested in hardware upgrades atm), which version do you recommend?
[09:58] <reisio> NuxRo: I don't know, does it have a dedicated graphics device, or just onboard?
[09:58] <Suhel> Hmmm
[09:59] <rabbi1> reisio: how can i do it, unable to , it's showing 0 bytes
[09:59] <luckymurali> Hi all
[09:59] <reisio> rabbi1: what is?
[09:59] <reisio> luckymurali: hi
[10:00] <NuxRo> reisio: dont have that info, cheers anyway, will try 10.04 and take it from there
[10:00] <reisio> :p
[10:00] <luckymurali> I installed ubuntu server on VMware
[10:00] <luckymurali> version 11.04
[10:00] <reisio> luckymurali: yeah?
[10:00] <iceroot> !enter | luckymurali
[10:01] <AofA> hello. attempting to install ubuntu 10.04 on a celeron 1.1 256 with active XP operating system. I manage to boot from live cd, but recieve this message: (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system. boot also take a very long time.
[10:01] <reisio> instead use the bot as punctuation
[10:01] <AofA> any suggestions?
[10:01] <Intel``> hi guys i need help with traceroute. im tracing an ip address and there are 3 hops that missed. does this mean there's a problem with ISP?
[10:01] <reisio> AofA: try re-burning the media, use a slower speed
[10:01] <reisio> AofA: or use a USB stick if you can
[10:01] <neo_21670> hi, just a short question, i haven't been able to answer w/googling: do i have the option to install ubuntu server from a live DVD image, or dvd version is the same as desktop cd w/more packages on the install media?
[10:01] <Silent_Samurai> http://pastie.org/2682001
[10:02] <reisio> neo_21670: the dvd has fluff you don't need
[10:02] <iceroot> Intel``: depending who is managing the missing hosts
[10:02] <reisio> neo_21670: i18n stuff, IIRC
[10:02] <AofA> you think the problem is with the live cd I made?
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> neo_21670: server is partitioned differently
[10:02] <Intel``> neo_21670,  dvd version i think it just an install DVD not live dvd
[10:02] <OnkelTem> I had some packages installed from PPA. Now I removed that ppa from APT list and want to install the packages from the main Ubuntu repository. How would I do this? When I issue: apt-get install --reinstall <package> it says: Reinstallation of gstreamer0.10-plugins-good is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. Why?
[10:02] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: like?
[10:02] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: what different layout does the server-edition have?
[10:02] <Suhel> For the live medium error try plugging in the usb stick in a usb slot wiv2.0
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> iceroot: /var and others are on separate partitions, i tried it
[10:03] <kaz2057> hi guy, I ask you an help to install an ubuntu server distro on a raid 0. Usually I install ubuntu desktop live, using apt-get install kpartx otherwise I cannot use raid configuration. Instead, using Ubuntu Server, I cannot install kpartx before the installation process, so it is impossibile for me install this on raid. Have you any solution please?
[10:03] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: the only difference is that the server-edition is using pae by default on 32bit systems and doesnt have a gui
[10:03] <Intel``> iceroot, it seems its the isp issue because route in london in hop 6 then 7&8 missed
[10:03] <reisio> kaz2057: you can setup your raid with any live image you want
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> iceroot: i experienced other differences, too
[10:03] <DrCooper> \join #ror
[10:03] <luckymurali> i am able to ping any websites and If i try to do apt-get update I am getting the error failed to fetch
[10:03] <reisio> neo_21670: "Don't be confused…" — http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[10:04] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server   like sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <kaz2057> yes I know, but when I try to install ubuntu server on a partition raid, Ubuntu cannot see this partition ....
[10:04] <kaz2057> because Ubuntu server not include kpartx package ...
[10:04] <kaz2057> I need to include kpartx in the installation cd/distro
[10:05] <luckymurali> what may be the issue I stopped ufw & iptables
[10:05] <luckymurali> still same issue
[10:06] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: but interesting part about /var, i will check that later
[10:06] <AofA> suhel, reisio: Do I just copy the iso file to a usb stick and plug it in, or unzip the files to a usb stick?
[10:06] <reisio> AofA: you ca nuse an app like unetbootin
[10:06] <reisio> can_use*
[10:07] <kaz2057> any helps please?
[10:07] <harry_> How to reference the gnome current display
[10:07] <harry_> windows
[10:07] <reisio> harry_: do what?
[10:07] <iceroot> harry_: ?
[10:07] <neo_21670> thanks for the answers :)
[10:08] <reisio> kaz2057: you should be able to set up that stuff with any live system you like, one that has kpartx
[10:08] <reisio> kaz2057: and then come back and install to it
[10:08] <harry_> Means suppose there are 3 windows open on my current workspace , then i want to refrece my gnome..
[10:09] <luckymurali> i am able to ping any websites and If i try to do apt-get update I am getting the error failed to fetch, I disabled firewall what may be the issue?
[10:09] <kaz2057> ok but you can do it with a ubuntu desktop installation, not the server . you know if exist an ubuntu server live distro?
[10:09] <Ben64> luckymurali: can you "ping google.com"
[10:09] <kaz2057> I never see @_@
[10:09] <AofA> reisio: thank you, I will try that.
[10:09] <luckymurali> yes
[10:09] <reisio> harry_: you'll have to be more clear
[10:09] <Ben64> luckymurali: pastebin the full apt-get error?
[10:10] <harry_> reisio:actually i m facing a strage situation where i run a installer and it apears behind the current window but if i switch between works stations then i m able to see that installation window
[10:10] <reisio> kaz2057: you saying the server install image doesn't have a 'use without installing' mode like the desktop version?
[10:10] <reisio> harry_: between workspaces?
[10:10] <reisio> harry_: what's wrong with that solution?
[10:11] <Ben64> if you have a window "Always on Top" it makes new windows come up behind
[10:11] <Ben64> at least on my ubuntu
[10:12] <harry_> reisio: it means that my current window has all the properties of current focus window but as a user point of view its hide behind the window....but i want the permenet solution,i dont want to switch between the work station every time
[10:12] <Ben64> harry_: if you have a window "Always on Top" it makes new windows come up behind, at least on my ubuntu
[10:13] <ryannathans> What options do i even have? I NEED a FAST storage medium availible to BOTH windows AND linux.
[10:13] <Ben64> ssd?
[10:14] <ari_stress> any korean speaking here?
[10:14] <ryannathans> Ben64: I can't raid those -.-
[10:14] <AofA> reisio: I am creating a live usb stick now from iso file. Do I need to change my bios settings to boot from usb?
[10:14] <Ben64> ssd is faster than hdd raid
[10:14] <reisio> AofA: only if you do
[10:14] <ryannathans> Ben64: it's not reliable or redundant
[10:15] <ryannathans> nor is it very big
[10:15] <dr_willis> ryannathans:  like ntfs on a ssd
[10:15] <AofA> only if I do...?
[10:15] <dr_willis> ive seen ssd raid setups
[10:15] <elliotexe> Hi
[10:15] <ryannathans> dr_willis: eh?
[10:15] <kaz2057> [12:10] <reisio> kaz2057: you saying the server install image doesn't have a 'use without installing' mode like the desktop version? ANSWER: it doesn't have ...
[10:16] <dr_willis> ive seen ssd raid setups.. never used one.
[10:16] <ryannathans> dr_willis: they are horrid, never raid ssds
[10:16] <ryannathans> EVER
[10:16] <elliotexe> I can't wait until 26 April 2012. I am going to back up my files on Ubuntu (and the few that Windows 7 has not deleted ) and run Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as my main OS.
[10:16] <reisio> kaz2057: weird
[10:16] <luckymurali> Ben64: W: Failed to fetch <address> I am unable to copy and paste since it is running from remote desktop
[10:18] <Ben64> luckymurali: can you browse the internet in firefox or chrome or... whatever you browse in?
[10:22] <kaz2057> nothing?
[10:23] <dr_willis> hmm?
[10:28] <harry_> i knw i knw but but i m making my own installer using installjammer and its causing problem for me...thats its not working
[10:28] <luckymurali> Ben64: desktop is not installed
[10:30] <Wisien> hi
[10:30] <sgs2_usr> can anyone help troubleshoot problem with my Ubuntu 11.04? I try to launch VirtualBox, efax-gtk, google earth, skype , all crashes and bring me back to the login screen.
[10:30] <Wisien> what is winamp replacement for linux?
[10:30] <sgs2_usr> i suspect anything to do with gtk interface from the app crashes
[10:31] <sitzy> Wisien: xmms?
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> Wisien: lmms
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> Wisien: or audacious
[10:34] <dr_willis> !xmms
[10:34] <sitzy> Beep Media Player
[10:34] <elliotexe> Rhythmbox  is a pretty good alternative  to iTunes
[10:35] <zaapiel> beep media player
[10:35] <dr_willis> dozens of players iut there. some have been discontinued
[10:35] <zaapiel> i used to chat with the developer of that
[10:35] <zaapiel> nice guy
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> audacious can even handle winamp skins, methinks
[10:35] <dr_willis> i thought beep was dead. :-$
[10:35] <dr_willis> !music
[10:38] <reisio> yeah audacious is what you want
[10:39] <reisio> xmms2 is a different type of app, and a pretender
[10:39] <pksadiq> well ask more at #ubuntu-bots ;)
[10:41] <TheMiNd> Hello.  I am running Lucid Lynx on an old Macbook Pro 1,1... the disc drive doesn't work
[10:41] <TheMiNd> I suspect its a driver problem
[10:41] <TheMiNd> does anyone know how I can fix this?
[10:42] <siouX_> hi, tomorrow, can i update my system normally? because, in older versions i have broken packages when i have update the system
[10:42] <reisio> TheMiNd: can you boot from a livecd and it works?
[10:43] <TheMiNd> I have no idea
[10:43] <reisio> TheMiNd: be a simple test to rule out hardware failure
[10:43] <TheMiNd> There's no OSX on this, just ubuntu
[10:43] <TheMiNd> This computer is a loaner from the friend
[10:43] <TheMiNd> *from a friend
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> siouX_: restart in Recover Mode (grub) en choose Repair
[10:44] <reisio> TheMiNd: CDs are really tedious low capacity versions of USB sticks anyways
[10:45] <siouX_> MonkeyDust, what? to update?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> siouX_: to repair the broken packages
[10:45] <dayana_em> hello
[10:46] <TheMiNd> I need to fix the CD drive if possible for now
[10:46] <siouX_> MonkeyDust, ok, so tomorrow i can update with apt-get normally
[10:46] <siouX_> i need change the repository, right?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> siouX_: i guess it's dist-upgrade
[10:47] <dayana_em> i have a translation of empathy  in .po format.But don't know how to install it,. plz help me
[10:48] <dayana_em> siouX_, 	
[10:49] <dayana_em> i have a translation of empathy in .po format.But don't know how to install it,. plz help me
[10:50] <tVenc> hey guys
[10:50] <tVenc> i have a quick question
[10:50] <tVenc> if i update now from 11.04 to 11.10 beta
[10:51] <dayana_em> hmm
[10:51] <tVenc> can i later update to full version of 11.10?
[10:51] <rabbi1> reisio: hey, kindly help, tried all
[10:51] <dayana_em> i think yes.
[10:51] <tVenc> i remember earlear
[10:51] <tVenc> i updated to beta
[10:52] <dayana_em> the updates will be just security updates
[10:52] <tVenc> but when full came out it didn't shoved me to update to full
[10:52] <tVenc> so it
[10:52] <tVenc> so it's better to wait for full?
[10:52] <vlt> Hello. Where does brasero store its list of recent projects? How to remove an item from it?
[10:52] <vlt> It's not in .config/brasero
[10:53] <auronandace> tVenc: it should be released on 13th, so can't you wait?
[10:53] <geirha> dayana_em: You first need to convert it to a .mo file with msgfmt. Then put it in the right directory. Look under /usr/share/locale/
[10:54] <tVenc> maybe i will and second question is it still not safe to update to gnome3?
[10:54] <auronandace> tVenc: gnome3 is not supported in 11.04, but it will be in 11.10
[10:54] <elliotexe> Can I install XP on VirtualBox using a CD?
[10:55] <jrib> elliotexe: sure
[10:55] <tVenc> that is why i want to go to 11.10 i hate this unity
[10:55] <elliotexe> I have only done it using an ISO. When it asks for the file I can't get it to work
[10:55] <geirha> vlt: I don't know, but you could try creating and saving a new project, then shortly after, run   find . -mmin -2  to see all files changed within the last two minutes.
[10:55] <tVenc> but still what is the difference if i update today to 11.10.
[10:55] <auronandace> tVenc: i get the feeling there are going to be a lot of upgrade issues so it would likely be better to install arfresh when 11.10 is released
[10:55] <rabbi1> how can i share a file to a remote location from ubuntu server ?
[10:56] <reisio> elliotexe: you can't get VirtualBox to boot from an ISO?
[10:56] <reisio> rabbi1: ...
[10:56] <vlt> geirha: Looks like there's an sqlite db .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite where it's stored.
[10:56] <rabbi1> reisio: I  have copied the file to webserver location, how can i access now
[10:56] <tVenc> yea i'm thinking about installing fresh 11.10
[10:56] <rabbi1> e.g.: i am trying ftp://localhost/foldername/filename
[10:56] <auronandace> tVenc: you'd need to update again tomorrow for the stable release
[10:57] <elliotexe> Just downloading a ISO.
[10:57] <tVenc> it will be possible to do that?
[10:57] <th0r> elliotexe: if you want to use a CD, check the box for live CD/DVD
[10:57] <auronandace> tVenc: that is the only difference
[10:58] <reisio> rabbi1: ah
[10:58] <tVenc> because as i said earlier when i updated to beta when full came out there was no update suggestions
[10:58] <reisio> rabbi1: you would actually need the server connected to a domain or public IP
[10:58] <reisio> rabbi1: better go back to scp
[10:58] <rabbi1> reisio: but its showing nothing.
[10:58] <reisio> rabbi1: is sshd running?
[10:58] <auronandace> tVenc: it is never recommended to upgrade to or from a beta release
[10:59] <reisio> th0r: that shouldn't matter to it working
[10:59] <Prince> Prince
[10:59] <tVenc> ok thanks for help
[10:59] <rabbi1> reisio: i am pretty new to this
[10:59] <reisio> rabbi1: pgrep -l ssh
[11:00] <vlt> When I try to remove an entry from sqlite db .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite I get "database is locked". How to fic this?
[11:00] <th0r> reisio: in the newest version of virtualbox you can choose an iso file for the virtual cd, but the only way to tell it to use the native drive is to check the liveCD box
[11:00] <vlt> *fix
[11:00] <rabbi1> reisio: yeah, running
[11:00] <elliotexe> I did that I also changed it so it would boot from CD first..I am still having problems
[11:01] <Prince> AS A MEMBER
[11:01] <vlt> I get "database is locked" for every command I try to run on .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite. Even ".databases".
[11:01] <Calinou> sudo was invented for a reason, I guess
[11:01] <reisio> rabbi1: k, I don't suppose you and your friend both use an IM client?
[11:02] <vlt> How can I stop Ubuntu asking me whether I want to log out when I clicked on "logout"?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> vlt: try ubuntu-tweak
[11:04] <rabbi1> reisio: i have no idea what my client is using, and unable to communicate instantly :( so got to give the link for a file and forget it.
[11:05] <zaapiel> may i speak to mark shuttleworth
[11:05] <zaapiel> id liek to ask him how it feels to be the first african in space
[11:05] <zaapiel> and also does he think thats kind of a dick move to be first with him being white and all?
[11:06] <zaapiel> i kind of thought it was
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> zaapiel: please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:07] <ace__> will adding several ppa s slow the system down?
[11:08] <Myrtti> ace__: depending on how much and what you install from them
[11:08] <vsync_> zaapiel :D
[11:08] <geirha> ace__: An apt-get update will be slower, since it needs to download more package lists, but in general it won't slow the system down.
[11:09] <auronandace> ace__: more ppas you use the more likely something could go wrong; ppas are unsupported
[11:13] <rabbi1> reisio: any other way?
[11:17] <reisio> rabbi1: ah and forget it
[11:18] <ndrj> I just created a new ext4 partition, however, I can't make any changes in it from the normal GUI, seems to be read only. I assume I have to sudo, but I have no idea what to type to access that particular partition in the terminal.
[11:18] <reisio> rabbi1: how about a dropbox account, have one of those?
[11:18] <rabbi1> reisio: thats better :) will share from torrent
[11:18] <reisio> rabbi1: that could work... but could also be problematic
[11:18] <ndrj> It has a folder in it, and that folder shows up at "File System" too. So I guess it's just bunched up regardless of what partition it belongs to?
[11:19] <reisio> rabbi1: I pretty awful but simple way would be to put it in a password protected archive (7z a -mx=0 -p foo.7z originalfile) and upload to a file sharing site: http://multiupload.com/
[11:19] <ndrj> how do I refer to a specific partition as a path, is what I'm asking, I guess.
[11:19] <reisio> rabbi1: then give your client the file sharing link
[11:19] <rabbi1> reisio: that's ok, doesn't matter, will try to send through torrent, i have already uploaded to megashare.com
[11:19] <reisio> well megashare should suffice
[11:20] <rabbi1> megashare.com gives you password protected download, which i have already done :)
[11:20] <ndrj> i guess i use the "mount" command?
[11:20] <HarrehD> hello, anyone here able to help me troubleshoot my new install of ubuntu?
[11:20] <reisio> rabbi1: should suffice
[11:20] <toshiba> is this freenode?
[11:20] <reisio> ndrj: to do what?
[11:21] <reisio> toshiba: look at your window's title bar
[11:21] <rabbi1> reisio: thanks a lot
[11:21] <ndrj> reisio:  I just made a new partition, ext4, and I wish to access it. I think Ubuntu mounted it automatically, but I can't write to it.
[11:21] <reisio> ndrj: how do you know you can't write to it
[11:21] <toshiba> thanks
[11:22] <ndrj> reisio: I opened it in the GUI and tried to add a folder to it, but it was greyed out :(
[11:22] <ndrj> reisio: but then again, it should show up as a folder in "/" too, right?
[11:22] <despe70> any reason why ubuntu 10.04 still has dovecot 1.2.9 intead of the 2.x version ?
[11:22] <reisio> ndrj: what does 'mount' say about it?
[11:23] <ndrj> reisio: what is the command to list all partitions, again? so I can check which is which, first.
[11:23] <clockwize> hi, i want to run a script every 30 minutes in ubuntu desktop, the script opens browser windows (automated tests) so i don't think it can run through cron?
[11:23] <auronandace> !latest | despe70
[11:23] <clockwize> as that's for background tasks
[11:23] <reisio> despe70: because it's old?
[11:23] <reisio> ubottu: that's a good one :p
[11:24] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that, heh
[11:24] <psycose> Hi, using vsftpd, I would like to keep using ftp without SSL for my current users, but force a new virtual user to use SFTP, any tips ? thanks
[11:24] <ndrj> ah fdisk -1?
[11:24] <reisio> (proves its own point)
[11:24] <toshiba> y cant i connect to freenode?
[11:24] <despe70> reisio: "old" as in "the last LTS version"
[11:24] <reisio> ndrj: yeah
[11:24] <reisio> despe70: old is old
[11:24] <reisio> despe70: why is it you want 2
[11:25] <toshiba> cause i want to learn python
[11:25] <ndrj> oh l, not 1
[11:25] <Companion> toshiba, your on freenode :P
[11:25] <auronandace> !register | toshiba
[11:26] <auronandace> toshiba: some channels require that you register your nick
[11:26] <ndrj> reisio: /dev/sda3 on /media/b9b27d68-c606-402b-ad9d-9d636ec453aa type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[11:26] <ndrj> reisio: oh, that's mounted as the media folder on /?
[11:26] <RobinJ> WineHQ AppDB has been hacked. If you used the same password on multiple sites, change them as fast as possible. (so i'm screwed with using the same password on 200+ sites...)
[11:26] <toshiba> wow thank you and sorry for being so dumb
[11:27] <reisio> ndrj: no, as 'b9b27....' in the /media/ dir
[11:27] <auronandace> toshiba: no worries :)
[11:27] <ndrj> reisio: haha, can I mount it as something better, directly under / instead?
[11:27] <reisio> ndrj: yes, just mkdir /somethingbetter and add a line to /etc/fstab
[11:27] <auronandace> ndrj: why do you want it under /?
[11:28] <ndrj> auronandace: dunno, where do you suggest i put it?
[11:28] <reisio> /mnt/ is tradition
[11:28] <ndrj> aha
[11:28] <auronandace> ndrj: either /media or /mnt/
[11:28] <reisio> but /media/ works just as well
[11:28] <ndrj> ok
[11:28] <ndrj> ndrj:  so /media/somethingbetter
[11:28] <ndrj> etc/fstab is a config ifle?
[11:28] <ndrj> file*
[11:28] <reisio> it is indeed
[11:28] <ndrj> getting the hang of this
[11:28] <ndrj> x)
[11:29] <reisio> if you use e2label to give it a meaningful label, it's possible the system will use it instead of the UUID
[11:29] <ndrj> reisio: ah, duh. i left label out when I made it...
[11:29] <reisio> sudo e2label /dev/whatever fancynamehere
[11:30] <reisio> ndrj: well I'm not sure it'll use it, but if it's smart it will
[11:30] <reisio> otherwise it's back to /etc/fstab
[11:30] <ndrj> reisio: is that something i need to install?
[11:30] <flummy> http://666kb.com/i/bxqa3uy26lkhpx1ua.png
[11:30] <reisio> ndrj: you probably already have e2label
[11:30] <reisio> ndrj: you definitely already have /etc/fstab :)
[11:30] <toshiba> where could i register please?
[11:31] <reisio> toshiba: /msg nickserv help register
[11:31] <ndrj> reisio: yeah i did, so "sudo e2label sda3 blabl" ?
[11:31] <flummy> my xterms have redraw error, what could that be
[11:31] <auronandace> toshiba: ask in #freenode
[11:31] <reisio> toshiba: /msg nickserv help identify
[11:31] <flummy> (see 666kb url)
[11:31] <flummy> +s
[11:31] <reisio> ndrj: probably sudo e2label /dev/sda3 blah, yes
[11:32] <toshiba> thanks thanks
[11:32] <reisio> ndrj: and I don't know if the auto mount system will bother remounting it without you rebooting or telling it to (mount -o remount ?)
[11:33] <ndrj> reisio: was just about to ask, as it didnt change. maybe I have to remount it?
[11:33] <phlak_user> flummy: this normally happens if you resize the terminal while a curses prog is running; pressing ctl+l would force redraw
[11:33] <reisio> ndrj: yeah I don't see why they'd bother having it check if you change label and remount it :p could cause problems
[11:34] <ndrj> reisio: but a restart should do it? feels safer than me fiddling with mount or fstab
[11:34] <clockwize> gnome cron
[11:34] <flummy> phlak_user: i need to redraw all the time, xterms used to run for months without any glitches, and it has never been resized
[11:34] <reisio> ndrj: if it's goingi to work at all, yes
[11:35] <flummy> phlak_user: happens with ls as well
[11:35] <ndrj> reisio: i'll try, if not, i'll explore the beauty of fstab
[11:35] <Travis-42> Can anyone recommend a GUI video recording program? All I can find is Cheese, and it just locks up.
[11:35] <ndrj> brb
[11:35] <flummy> phlak_user: but thanks, was just trying to find out if anyone knows this problem :)
[11:35] <phlak_user> flummy: did you set non-standard geometry of xterm somewhere?
[11:36] <reisio> Travis-42: for your webcam?
[11:36] <flummy> phlak_user: don't think so... i forgot the location/name of the X11 resource file though
[11:36] <Travis-42> reisio, yep
[11:36] <flummy> maybe /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm
[11:36] <Sidewinder1> Travis-42, FFMPEG has a front-end GUI called Winff (should be in the Repos.) but I'm not sure it records as I don't use it.
[11:36] <reisio> Travis-42: what is it you want the GUI to do?
[11:37] <reisio> Sidewinder1: just for format conversion
[11:37] <Sidewinder1> OIC
[11:37] <Yamauchi> what time GMT will 11.10 be released?
[11:37] <Travis-42> reisio, watch the video while it's being recorded, quickly play back to see that everything went right, on the fly configure things like contrast, etc., all the things that webcam video recording GUIs on Mac and Windows make much easier
[11:38] <flummy> phlak_user: app-defaults/XTerm seems to be unmaimed :)
[11:38] <flummy> no XTerm~ backup file around :)
[11:38] <Travis-42> Sidewinder1, I'll check it out
[11:38] <reisio> Travis-42: WinFF is just for format conversion
[11:39] <phlak_user> flummy: you could poke inside Edit->Profile Preferences in the Xterm menu
[11:40] <flummy> phlak_user: hm? i am talking about /usr/bin/xterm, i don't know of a Edit function in the xterm menus reached via Ctrl+leftclick/ rightclick :)
[11:40] <phlak_user> flummy: oh ok; i was imagining the GNome Terminal :)
[11:41] <flummy> phlak_user: no i can't stand that one :)
[11:41] <reisio> Travis-42: should probably fix your Cheese, or switch to using ${media player of choice} for playback and ffmpeg for post-processing
[11:41] <Travis-42> reisio, yea, I'll see if I can find out why Cheese locks up since it seems to be the only linux tool
[11:42] <Travis-42> thanks
[11:43] <flummy> phlak_user: i will probably start by turning compiz visual effects off, right?
[11:43] <prabal> #android
[11:43] <flummy> is there a simple way to turn compiz visual effects off without unchecking 20 checkboxes?
[11:44] <ndrj> reisio: yeah, it worked.
[11:44] <reisio> ndrj: good times
[11:44] <phlak_user> flummy: sure; or try starting xterm with different -geometry values
[11:44] <flummy> phlak_user: i think it's not the geometry
[11:44] <flummy> phlak_user: happened to other xterms with other geometrys as well
[11:44] <ndrj> reisio: what the hell is this "lost+found" folder in it, though? :D
[11:44] <flummy> its probably a redraw problem
[11:44] <flummy> happens only in xterm tough
[11:44] <phlak_user> ndrj: its similar to that cupboard you had at school :)
[11:45] <reisio> ndrj: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.html#lostfound
[11:45] <phlak_user> flummy: sure
[11:45] <reisio> ndrj: if it's on an otherwise empty new partition you can just rm it
[11:45] <flummy> probably some 16 year old gnome progammer was not aware of the full 1980 X11 spec used by the not so young xterm :)
[11:45] <ndrj> reisio: it is. so I'll do that
[11:45] <flummy> and gnome programmes are probably all using gnome-terminal
[11:45] <flummy> hehe
[11:46] <auronandace> Travis-42: you could try vlc too (vlc can use my in-built camera)
[11:46] <ndrj> reisio: however, I can't seem to write to it, from the GUI. do I have to change permissions?
[11:46] <reisio> ndrj: sudo chown youruser:youruser /media/fooowoink might suffice
[11:47] <ndrj> reisio: haha i'll try :)
[11:47] <skipr> hello
[11:48] <reisio> hi
[11:48] <skipr> i have a problem with linux 3.0.4
[11:48] <skipr> i installed it on my ubuntu 10.10
[11:48] <ndrj> reisio: sure did
[11:48] <skipr> and now gdm3 crashes at startup
[11:48] <ndrj> reisio: you're the man :P
[11:48] <auronandace> skipr: that is not supported
[11:48] <skipr> wauronandace what is not supported?
[11:49] <jamey-uk> Suddenly my server has stopped booting, it just sits with a flashing cursor waiting to boot. It's an EFI machine, and the disk seems to be GPT, but I don't know what's wrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706649/ Can anyone help?
[11:49] <auronandace> skipr: 3.0.4 on 10.10 (and gnome3)
[11:49] <flummy> auronandace: interesting, why not?
[11:49] <skipr> everyone would be better off with 3.0.4 and 10.10
[11:49] <skipr> because 11.04 and newer use unity and gnome3
[11:50] <ndrj> will paths in a config file allow for spaces?
[11:50] <skipr> both of which suck a major woody
[11:50] <flummy> i think 11.04 has gnome 2
[11:50] <skipr> yea but unity
[11:50] <auronandace> skipr: you can use gnome2 on 11.04
[11:50] <ndrj> as in "/media/blabla/downloaded torrents/"?
[11:50] <skipr> yes
[11:50] <flummy> skipr: very easy to remove
[11:50] <skipr> but i also want to use latest kernel
[11:50] <ndrj> or do I have to use something like %20
[11:50] <ndrj> :P
[11:50] <skipr> should i get a different login manager?
[11:50] <flummy> skipr: maybe you need to turn on the new lie-about-kernel-version feature
[11:51] <flummy> so that the 3. series kernels pretends to be 2.6
[11:51] <ndrj> ah nvm, ill just avoid spaces in folder names
[11:51] <skipr> flummy nah
[11:51] <skipr> oh
[11:51] <skipr> that thing
[11:51] <skipr> i'll try that when im back home
[11:51] <skipr> thanks guys
[11:51] <skipr> see ya
[11:53] <flummy> auronandace: what is the technical reason for gnome2 not supporting 3 series kernels?
[11:53] <ndrj> reisio: I assume that, if I give a user permission to a folder, it gives permission to all subfolders of that folder as well?
[11:53] <auronandace> flummy: i never said that
[11:53] <ikonia> flummy: where did you read that ?
[11:54] <Travis-42> auronandace, I'll try vlc too, thanks
[11:54] <flummy> auronandace: oh, what did you say then? :)=
[11:54] <ndrj> reisi: you reisio? :P
[11:54] <auronandace> flummy: 10.10 doesn't support gnome3 or the linux 3 kernel
[11:54] <spectusGN> Hello, I've written a little shellScript i want to run while bootup. So I made a line to rc.local. The script asks for user input, but the boot process just continues, so i can't write anything. What can I do to stop boot while script is running?
[11:54] <reisi> ndrj: nope, chuck testa
[11:55] <sajimon> hello, im having tough timer mapping samba server share on mine ubuntu machine via cifs, cant anyone check this error http://wklej.org/id/606686/
[11:55] <flummy> auronandace: and what is the technical reason for 10.10 not supporting kernels with 3-series version numbering?
[11:55] <flummy> excuse my inquisitive style
[11:55] <iceroot> flummy: 10.10 is supporting both, but we dont support it here
[11:55] <phlak_user> sajimon: seems like a very good reason -> NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[11:55] <iceroot> flummy: you can install gnome3 and linux 3.0 on 10.10
[11:55] <flummy> well you should say that then
[11:55] <auronandace> flummy: there is nothing technical stopping you from installing kernel 3 on 10.10, it just isn't supported by #ubuntu
[11:55] <flummy> fair enough
[11:56] <flummy> but you should put it that way :)
[11:56] <reisi> sajimon: just like phlak_user said; authentication (or perhaps authorization) error
[11:56] <sajimon> phlak_user: im sure password is okay, in fact its working on another linux machine
[11:57] <spectusGN> Hello, I've written a little shellScript i want to run while bootup. So I made a line to rc.local. The script asks for user input, but the boot process just continues, so i can't write anything. What can I do to stop boot while script is running?
[11:57] <phlak_user> sajimon: if you have smbclient, you could run that and check
[11:57] <phlak_user> !repeat| spectusSN
[11:58] <reisi> sajimon: could it be that you cannot have two connections with the same authentication? (just guessing)
[11:58] <holtgrew_> Hi, I have a problem with wmii. "wmiir read /" prints a lot of binary garbage, including my user name, interleaved with what I would it expect to print. Does anyone have a guess what's going wrong?
[11:58] <flummy> spectusGN: the easy way would be to replace upstart with the conventional system V init scripts, but there are probably sveral (deprecated or current) tools to prompt for user input in the upstart boot process
[11:59] <flummy> several
[11:59] <jamey-uk> Does anyone know how to get GRUB working with a GPT partition on a UEFI machine?
[12:02] <n0ti0nis> hi!
[12:02] <ejv> here i was... about to answer jamey-uk
[12:02] <n0ti0nis> I need help, I really don't understand how to use PPA
[12:02] <ejv> and he just leaves... lol
[12:02] <n0ti0nis> I've built a kernel for desktop use
[12:03] <n0ti0nis> and i wanna upload my .deb packages
[12:03] <n0ti0nis> on a PPA
[12:03] <n0ti0nis> I read wiki and tutorial but I didn't understad :(
[12:03] <Singham> !enter | n0ti0nis
[12:04] <n0ti0nis> How can I upload my .deb packages on my PPA? I've built a kernel for desktop use
[12:04] <ejv> n0ti0nis: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[12:05] <phlak_user> spectusGN: one way could be to put the script inside the /etc/rcS.d directory (you can read the README file there for details)
[12:05] <comitt> hello. if i installed xfce desktop environment, do i still have grub2 as the boot loader?
[12:05] <ejv> comitt: desktop environments are independent of the underlying bootloader, so most likely yes, you still do
[12:05] <iceroot> comitt: sure
[12:05] <iceroot> comitt: the desktop has nothing to do with the grub-package
[12:06] <phlak_user> comitt: the DE is like the upholstery in your car and grub2 is like your starter motor
[12:06] <comitt> gksu isnt working in xfce, should i just use su/sudo? i tried to tuse the command gksu gedit /etc/default/grub, but nothing shakes
[12:06] <ejv> holtgrew_: wmii is outside the scope of support this channel can provide, i suggest the wmii forum, mailing list, etc...
[12:06] <iceroot> comitt: gksudo
[12:07] <comitt> thanks
[12:07] <xangua> Commander1024: because gedit is not installed on kubuntu¿
[12:07] <phlak_user> comitt: gk might not work at all since its dependent on the gtk+ environment which may or may not be present in your system
[12:07] <xangua> i mean xubuntu/xfce
[12:07] <comitt> gksudo worked :)
[12:07] <xangua> that was for comitt :/
[12:08] <Commander1024> i see ;-)
[12:08] <comitt> to update grub2 under xubuntu, its gksudo update-grub2, right? just making sure :)
[12:10] <phlak_user> comitt: after editing /etc/default/grub
[12:10] <hexacode> how can i specify a name for a symbolic link in the same line i use to create it?
[12:10] <comitt> yes indeed phlak_user
[12:11] <phlak_user> hexacode: ln -s /path/to/file /name/of/symlink
[12:11] <hexacode> thanks
[12:11] <phlak_user> hexacode: yw
[12:12] <comitt> any idea why xubuntu is updating today like 50 updates? just curious
[12:13] <ndrj> can I use screen to detach and make a terminal window of its own?
[12:13] <phlak_user> ndrj: you can create many new screens by pressing ctl+a+c
[12:14] <ejv> ndrj: what?
[12:14] <ejv> phlak_user apparently speaks confusing, well done mate ;)
[12:14] <phlak_user> ndrj: if you meant the *screen* package
[12:14] <rvm> exit
[12:14] <ndrj> no idea, im an utter linux noob
[12:14] <phlak_user> ejv: tx :)
[12:14] <ndrj> :D
[12:14] <ndrj> but i think s
[12:14] <ndrj> o
[12:15] <ejv> "one screen session should be enough for anyone..." :D
[12:15] <ndrj> right now I can switch between my "screen" and my normal terminal with ctrl-D and then screen -r
[12:15] <phlak_user> ejv: unless you are on a remote session
[12:15] <ndrj> but I'd like to see both at the same time, and just alt-tab between them? :P
[12:15] <ejv> was a play on the infamous 640K ram bill gates joke :p
[12:16] <flummy> ndrj: screen supports creation and switching betweenmultiple sessions
[12:16] <phlak_user> ndrj: not sure what it is you want to achieve
[12:16] <ndrj> haha
[12:16] <flummy> ndrj: just press ctrl+a+c like phlak_user said
[12:16] <ndrj> flummy nothing happened, probably because im "inside" rtorrent, already, though?
[12:16] <ejv> ndrj: yes you can have them both in their own 'tiles', ctrl + a + c , then to move, ctrl + a + n, to move backward ctrl + a + backspace
[12:17] <ndrj> alright
[12:17] <flummy> ndrj: first press ctrl a, then release ctrl a, then press c
[12:17] <ndrj> ahaaa
[12:17] <phlak_user> ndrj: and ctl+a+0, ctl+a+1 etc to switch between them
[12:17] <flummy> ndrj: now type "man screen" without the ""
[12:17] <flummy> and hit enter
[12:18] <phlak_user> flummy: you the "man" :)
[12:18] <ejv> i prefer cycling with [N] and [BCKSP], easier than reaching for number row
[12:18] <flummy> :)
[12:19] <ndrj> ok, now i can switch between them
[12:19] <flummy> ndrj: now type "man screen" without the ""
[12:19] <flummy> and hit enter
[12:19] <ndrj> flummy:  yeah i did, wall of text crit me for 500k damage
[12:20] <flummy> well noone said unix was for wow gamers
[12:20] <ndrj> just saying =)
[12:20] <flummy> don't be afraid, it's only text
[12:21] <flummy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng
[12:21] <iuytfr> hi
[12:21] <iuytfr> hi
[12:21] <ndrj> anwyay, what i asked was...since im running this fancy graphical userface and not only a bash prompt thingie, if I could have two terminal windows side by side, on my screen?
[12:21] <phlak_user> hi
[12:21] <ndrj> err, interface*
[12:21] <ndrj> lol userface :D
[12:22] <iuytfr> is it possible to change disk name by command line ? for example i want to change sdb disk to sdc possible ?
[12:22] <phlak_user> ndrj: just spawn two terminal windows and arrange them side-by-side
[12:22] <flummy> ndrj: you mean like that: http://koffein.org/b/desktop.jpg (screenshot from 1998)
[12:23] <phlak_user> iuytfr: volume label or disk nomenclature?
[12:23] <ndrj> phlak_user: I guess i got confused by...well, when I clicked terminal again it just brought me to my first windows, so I assumed there's only support for 1 at a time.. :D
[12:23] <ndrj> window*
[12:23] <Pici> ndrj: 'terminator' might interest you.
[12:23] <phlak_user> ndrj: it probably spawned it over the old one; just move it to the side
[12:26] <ndrj> phlak_user: this might sound stupid, but is it possible to start a new terminal window by typing in the first terminal window? :D
[12:26] <iuytfr> no remember
[12:26] <Myrtti> ndrj: sure
[12:26] <ndrj> Myrtti: what's the command? cause terminal didnt work :P
[12:26] <phlak_user> ndrj: yes, but the second one also gets destroyed if you close the first one
[12:27] <iuytfr> i simply want to umount sdb and mount it on sdc
[12:27] <Myrtti> ndrj: gnome-terminal& depending on what you are running
[12:27] <phlak_user> ndrj: gnome-terminal
[12:27] <ndrj> phlak_user: gah, i see. any way around this?
[12:27] <ndrj> Myrtti: thanks
[12:27] <MrElendig> iuytfr: you don't mount anything in /dev/
[12:27] <phlak_user> ndrj: oh i stand corrected; it actually stays on
[12:27] <MrElendig> iuytfr: and why care about the device name? Use UUID or LABEL instead of you want it to be reliable
[12:28] <flummy> iuytfr: the sdb,sdc identifiers are allocated by the system
[12:28] <flummy> you should not try to change them
[12:28] <flummy> as they IDENTIFY the disk in question
[12:28] <ndrj> phlak_user: awesome, finally I can have rtorrent in a window of its own
[12:28] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> ndrj: Or make a terminal-starting daemon that launches at startup, and you just need to send it a signal to open up a terminal
[12:28] <phlak_user> ndrj: ok
[12:29] <ndrj> MAREK_BENC_NetB: i've heard about this daemon thing, I'd have to read about it though
[12:29] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> May i ask? Is ubuntu a good choice for a Netbook OS? (Currently, I'm running Debian Testing on it, and i want something fresh and fancy)
[12:29] <flummy> iuytfr: do you copy?
[12:30] <MrElendig> MAREK_BENC_NetB: works just fine, might not want to run gnome/unity though
[12:30] <phlak_user> MAREK_BENC_NetB: ive been running ubuntu on my eepc's since the 701
[12:30] <iceroot> MAREK_BENC_NetB: try it with a live-cd but normally ubuntu is one of your best choices for newer systems
[12:30] <ndrj> my friend sayd he ran rtorrent with a daemon thingie, something about "rtorrent -d"
[12:30] <phlak_user> MAREK_BENC_NetB: im now on a eeepc 1500 with unity
[12:31] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Cause debian with Xfce mixed up just for my taste is beggining to boar me.
[12:31] <ndrj> didn't really understand what it did, though
[12:31] <dotty> MAREK_BENC_NetB: the unity UI works really well on netbooks/small-screen laptops.. better than on larger screens imo
[12:31] <flummy> MAREK_BENC_NetB: there are light weight alternatives for systems with less than 4GB of ram
[12:31] <flummy> MAREK_BENC_NetB: i wouldn't use ubuntu on 2GB ram
[12:31] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> It's 1G
[12:31] <iceroot> flummy: why?
[12:31] <dotty> i've used ubuntu on 1GB of RAM perfectly well
[12:31] <flummy> well use a lightweight derivate then
[12:31] <phlak_user> flummy: i havent had an issue (but i could not be a typical user)
[12:31] <Yamauchi> also on an eee pc
[12:32] <iceroot> flummy: you want to say 2gb ram is not enough for ubuntu? (unity or gnome2)
[12:32] <Yamauchi> wondering if kubuntu would be better
[12:32] <nnfx> i use ubuntu on 1gb ram
[12:32] <flummy> iceroot: because lightweight alternatives provide about 5 times the performance if the base system consumes less than 105% of available RAM
[12:32] <iceroot> flummy: lubuntu
[12:32] <flummy> iceroot: it just does not perform well
[12:32] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I once used UNR on this netbook, but it sucked badly compared to normal desktop ubuntu of that time.
[12:32] <flummy> iceroot: for example, yes
[12:33] <iceroot> flummy: also please read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[12:33] <ndrj> uh ok, when i ran "sudo gnome-terminal" it opened as the user root. this is not recommended, I guess?
[12:33] <ndrj> xD
[12:33] <iceroot> ndrj: its not recommend
[12:33] <flummy> iceroot: i'm a computer scientist and have advanced degrees in software engineering and soon computer systems engineering, thank you very much
[12:34] <MrElendig> MAREK_BENC_NetB: I prefer a tiler on netbooks. More efficient in regards to screen space, and most importantly, much easier to controll by keyboard, which is somewhat important since the pads on most netbooks are rather crappy
[12:34] <n2i> Hi!
[12:34] <iceroot> flummy: then its sad that you dont know the link i have posted :(
[12:35] <MrElendig> flummy: you should know better than to post fud then
[12:35] <flummy> it is just a measured fact
[12:35] <n2i> How I make Ubuntu font family display Vietnamese character correctly?
[12:35] <flummy> lubuntu/LXDE should be much better for a 1GiB system
[12:36] <MrElendig> flummy: not that you can't run openbox on ubuntu either etc...
[12:36] <phlak_user> n2i: have you got the Vietnamese fonts installed?
[12:36] <flummy> MrElendig: what should that have to do with VRAM usage?
[12:37] <faLUCE> hi, I deleted some files from an usb stick. Is there a way to recover them? I couldn't find them in the local trash
[12:37] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> MrElendig: My Debian Testing XFce Setup is very clean, and gives me a lot of space to work with. One of the main reasons i gone to to Debian is that with UNR, i had a thick ugly bar on the left side of my screen. I hope by this tyme they removed that ugly thick bar.
[12:37] <iceroot> faLUCE: not really
[12:37] <n2i> phlak_user: Vietnamese font? Did you mean fonts support Vietnamese char?
[12:37] <iceroot> !recover | faLUCE
[12:37] <MrElendig> flummy: only difference betwen lubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop enviroment and default services run etc
[12:37] <iceroot> faLUCE: but normally its not possible
[12:38] <flummy> MrElendig: i think the relevant claimed difference is in VRAM usage?
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:38] <TehDGM> but if its still using less then 1 gb in both cases, it wouldnt make much of a difference would it
[12:38] <n2i> Some font such as: Droid or Linux Biolinum is fully display Vietnamese chars but Ubuntu font doesnot
[12:38] <TehDGM> because it wont page to hd until > 1gb
[12:39] <flummy> TehDGM: wrong.
[12:39] <flummy> TehDGM: caching/paging determine the system's speed
[12:39] <flummy> no ram = no caching
[12:39] <dotty> flummy, sure that the issue isn't with graphics performance, etc? i'd say that's the main issue on laptops which usually use integrated (intel integrated drivers are somewhat lacking in my experience on linux)
[12:39] <gleydson> hello i need some hel
[12:39] <gleydson> *help
[12:39] <flummy> dotty: yes.
[12:40] <gleydson> i want to install a tar.gz file but i cant
[12:40] <hackedfocus> gleydson: what is it exactly that you want to install?
[12:40] <gleydson> this openerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz
[12:40] <jatt> tar xvzf openerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz
[12:41] <gleydson> i do that but later i dnt know what do
[12:41] <MrElendig> gleydson: use the package system instead.
[12:41] <gleydson> i use the ./config
[12:41] <MrElendig> gleydson: and if noone have packaged, not even in ppa, then atleast use checkinstall
[12:41] <phlak_user> back
[12:42] <hackedfocus> you can ext:l
[12:42] <gleydson> i need this packaged too
[12:42] <phlak_user> n2i: http://www.unifont.org/fontguide/ should help you with the unicode fonts
[12:42] <gleydson> i dnt find thi on the system
[12:42] <bucaneiro> how to unstall chrome?
[12:42] <gleydson> *this
[12:42] <bhush> Hello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!
[12:42] <bucaneiro> chrome is troubling me
[12:43] <xangua> bucaneiro: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[12:43] <MrElendig> bucaneiro: how did you install it in the first place?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> bucaneiro, how did you install it ?
[12:43] <TehDGM> bucaneiro: sudo apt-get remove chrome-browser
[12:43] <TehDGM> i think thats the packagename
[12:43] <TehDGM> cause just plain chrome is a game
[12:43] <bucaneiro> ok, thanks
[12:44] <gleydson> anyone to help me about the openerp-web?
[12:44] <phlak_user> TehDGM: its actually chromium
[12:44] <phlak_user> !info chromium
[12:44] <phlak_user> oh
[12:44] <TehDGM> !info chrome-browser
[12:44] <TehDGM> !info chromium-browser
[12:44] <bhush> Hello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!
[12:44] <TehDGM> :)
[12:44] <xangua> !info chromium-browser | phlak_user TehDGM
[12:44] <phlak_user> ok
[12:44] <bucaneiro> blank screen?
[12:44] <TehDGM> bots aren't allowed to talk to me :)
[12:45] <bhush> Hello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!
[12:45] <TehDGM> ye its chromium then :)
[12:45] <dotty> bhush: does it use ATI graphics?
[12:45] <bhush> Hello guys How do i solve blank screen problem on My HP laptop..!?? nomodeset is not working..!
[12:45] <Pici> !repeat|  bhush
[12:45] <bhush> dotty : yes
[12:46] <gleydson> any idea about my question?
[12:46] <dotty> tried "radeon.modeset = 0"?
[12:46] <phlak_user> gleydson: what was it please?
[12:46] <dotty> sorry..
[12:46] <dotty> tried "radeon.modeset=0"?
[12:46] <bhush> yes
[12:46] <dotty> ah.. no clue then, sorry
[12:46] <dotty> i've had trouble in the past with such though
[12:47] <bhush> Ok
[12:47] <phlak_user> bhush:  you dont even have a text console? pressing ctl-alt-f1 can bring it up
[12:47] <gleydson> need to install something and i cant
[12:47] <phlak_user> gleydson: ok so what is it
[12:47] <dotty> phlak_user, highly doubt that'll work
[12:47] <dotty> screen goes completely blank
[12:47] <gleydson> openerp-web-6.0.1.tar.gz
[12:47] <Pici> !doesntwork | gleydson
[12:48] <bhush> when shud I press ctrl+alt+f1 to bring text console
[12:48] <xangua> !compile | gleydson
[12:48] <phlak_user> dotty: lets remove that doubt by testing it out eh?
[12:48] <n2i> phlak_user: This 'style' make Ubuntu font display Vietnamese chars very nicely, on the web, of course. How to make it on desktop (I mean on GUI suck as gtk app and so on)
[12:48] <n2i> http://userstyles.org/styles/37610/ubuntu-font-on-facebook-userstyles-google-etc
[12:48] <gleydson> !compile
[12:48] <dotty> phlak_user, aye.. just saying
[12:48] <Isumi> Hi, lately I have been having random crashes on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop. the mouse cursor is still moving , but nothing else works. It's still possible to connect via ssh though. any idea what can be the problem?
[12:48] <phlak_user> bhush: when you have a blank screen
[12:48] <gleydson> i try all possibilities
[12:48] <bhush> after booting....!!
[12:49] <xangua> Isumi: no remote conection here ;)
[12:49] <dotty> Isumi, tried running "top" via ssh to see if anything is consuming large amounts of resources?
[12:49] <dotty> or using ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a tty
[12:49] <jason_> so I wanted to retain a folder's contents with all ownership/group/permissions intact, so I copied everything to my external using sudo cp -p -R. When I did this command back to the other server, it came over as owned by me:me with 700 perms instead of root:root with 755. What did I do wrong?
[12:49] <Isumi> /usr/bin/X is at 100%
[12:49] <Isumi> (cpu)
[12:50] <phlak_user> n2i: you mean like this --> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[12:50] <Isumi>  1008 root      20   0 95508  21m  11m R  100  1.1  12:59.74 Xorg
[12:50] <Isumi> (i have it crashed right now, i'm on the other PC.)
[12:51] <Isumi> there is nothing special in dmesg
[12:51] <flummy> Isumi: he's dead, jim
[12:51] <Isumi> what should i try to find the source of the problem?
[12:52] <Isumi> oh.
[12:52] <flummy> Isumi: you have little hope to improve the quality of xorg from that end
[12:52] <Isumi> in Xorg.log
[12:52] <phlak_user> gleydson: generally, you explode the tarball (tar zxvf your.tar.gz); cd your.directory; read the installation instructions
[12:52] <Isumi> [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[12:52] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[12:52] <stephi> i need to convet avi video to 3gp which software can do that?
[12:52] <jason_> handbrake
[12:52] <flummy> Isumi: well but you could tell that from the cpu consumption :)
[12:52] <n2i> phlak_user: no, I dont! I love Ubuntu font family and set it as default application font. I dont wanna change my GUI language.
[12:52] <phlak_user> n2i: ok so what is it you want then?
[12:53] <n2i> Have I to edit something in /etc/font.conf?
[12:53] <Isumi> I have some backtrace, but no idea what to do with it...
[12:53] <flummy> Isumi: without a specific suspection about the cause - just kill it and restart it
[12:53] <Isumi> here is the backtrace : http://pastebin.com/j6nf4PQ1
[12:54] <Isumi> but it's happening more and more
[12:54] <flummy> not good
[12:54] <Isumi> i'd like to fix it if possible...
[12:54] <flummy> did you try a different OS installation or usb stick?
[12:55] <Isumi> only have ubuntu now
[12:55] <incorrect> how can i remove the gtk tab widget thing in the bottom right on each window?
[12:55] <flummy> Isumi: step 1 would be to chance either the complete hardware or the complete OS
[12:55] <flummy> to divide the problem
[12:55] <flummy> s/chance/change
[12:56] <flummy> or start with a (very) different graphics adapter
[12:57] <_melvin_> HI. on 11.10 / gnome3 the gnome-terminal always show the menubar.
[12:58] <flummy> Isumi: our you could move system hard disk and graphics adapter to another hardware
[12:58] <jason_> so I wanted to retain a folder's contents with all ownership/group/permissions intact, so I copied everything to my external using sudo cp -p -R. When I did this command back to the other server, it came over as owned by me:me with 700 perms instead of root:root with 755. What did I do wrong?
[12:58] <Isumi> ... is there no way to at least identify the problem from the logs/ etc?
[12:58] <flummy> not for me
[12:58] <Isumi> does someone else have an idea then?
[12:59] <flummy> i mentioned three quick steps for identification
[12:59] <gleydson> exit
[12:59] <cutiyar> when we get 11.10?
[12:59] <Isumi> yeah, "buy a new laptop, tehre won't be a problem"
[12:59] <iceroot> _melvin_: #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <Isumi> i don't see how that's identification
[12:59] <flummy> Isumi: you don't have access to another hardware?
[13:00] <flummy> no friends/colleagues?
[13:00] <Isumi> i am on another computer right now, how does that help?
[13:00] <n2i> phlak_user: Sorry for my poor English. Thanks for help!
[13:00] <flummy> Isumi: well good luck then
[13:00] <Isumi> i don't have any problem on this one, great. so ?
[13:00] <Isumi> i can't open a laptop and unplug the graphic card, obviously.
[13:01] <flummy> (i can open my thinkpad and unplug its graphics adapter)
[13:01] <Isumi> well, for one thing, that usually voids the guarantee.
[13:01] <flummy> nope
[13:01] <fritsch> flummy: you can`t it is integrated
[13:01] <iceroot> flummy: please stop this useless support
[13:01] <fritsch> flummy: never found my graphics card in my thinkpad
[13:02] <flummy> fritsch: i guess it depends on the thinkpad :)
[13:02] <flummy> iceroot: i'm happy to stop it and observe isumis progress
[13:02] <fritsch> flummy: i do not know a thinkpad, where you can just unplug the graphics module
[13:02] <flummy> i do
[13:04] <cutiyar> ??
[13:04] <K3rmit> I'm having trouble because a lot of packages are missing and apt-get doesn't find any apache packages.. What is wrong? I didn't mess with sources.list really except maybe uncomment some more things so that it finds stuff.
[13:05] <dork> what do you mean a lot of packages are missing
[13:05] <AaronMT> Where can one find the final image of 11.10, I know one can usually find them on the ftp the day before
[13:05] <K3rmit> I try to install other packages and it says it doesn't find them
[13:06] <flummy> K3rmit: did you compare your package sources to those of a working system?
[13:06] <dork> K3rmit: pastebin your sources.list please
[13:06] <K3rmit> flummy I mean it was a fresh ubuntu install
[13:06] <dork> K3rmit: pastebin your sources.list and pastebin the results of a sudo apt-get update
[13:06] <flummy> K3rmit: did you specify a http proxy at any point?
[13:07] <K3rmit> no
[13:07] <TehDGM> xD
[13:07] <K3rmit> ok I'll come back later, I have to boot up the system.
[13:07] <Pici> AaronMT: Its not done yet. Feel free to await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or get help in #ubuntu+1
[13:08] <xr--> Wow :)
[13:09] <Isumi> what is the clean way to stop the server X from console?
[13:10] <Isumi> i thought "gdm stop" would do the trick, but visibly nto
[13:10] <captainjamie> pkill X?
[13:10] <flummy> Isumi: it is in a faulty state
[13:10] <yogg> Hi
[13:10] <pksadiq> sudo service gdm stop
[13:10] <flummy> Isumi: you need to order the operating system to terminate it
[13:11] <Isumi> ok a kill -9 works
[13:11] <yogg> I have installed "php5-auth-pam" to use pam authetification out of php
[13:11] <yogg> But this only works with root rights and the lighttpd server should not run as rott
[13:11] <xr--> Kill the pid
[13:11] <Companion> Isumi, kill -9?
[13:11] <Companion> :P
[13:11] <yogg> has someone an idea for me how to fix this?
[13:12] <Companion> why using that? :)
[13:12] <phlak_user> yogg: you can use suexec from apache
[13:13] <wide_awake> hi - quick question: is it possible to reorder the entries in the "Open With" context menu, or are they forced to alphabetic order?  If it can be changed, how do I do it?
[13:14] <phlak_user> wide_awake: gconf-editor should have the settings; let me check
[13:14] <libScout_> i would like to setup an intranet behind my gateway NAT... if I lock down port 80, will outgoing requests still reach there destination?
[13:14] <yogg> phlak_user: so i should start this script with root rights? this sounds realy ugly ^^
[13:15] <flummy> libScout_: what do you mean by "set up an interanet", another NAT router?
[13:15] <flummy> -e
[13:15] <phlak_user> libScout_: yes, if you will be locking down incoming requests on port 80
[13:16] <bucaneiro> .
[13:16] <libScout_> flummy: basically I have a couple of PHP scripts for simplifying tasks for a couple "non-techs" for a headless server and i want everyone behind the gateway NAT to see port 80 but no one outside the NAT can access the web server
[13:16] <phlak_user> yogg: dude, if you have a script that needs to be run as root; im showing you how it could be done
[13:18] <libScout_> phlak_user: is this achievable with ufw?
[13:18] <dork> libScout_: so kill port 80 on the router
[13:18] <dork> libScout_: is the webserver behind your router?
[13:19] <wide_awake> phlak_user, where would I find the open-with list in gconf-editor?
[13:19] <libScout_> dork: yes
[13:19] <dork> libScout_: can you just bind a local IP to one of the interfaces on the web server?
[13:19] <drahst> I've looked just about everywhere and google doesn't even know... I've installed ubuntu server 10.04 LTS with just the virtualization option and I cannot figure out how the default bridge is starting up or how to edit it. Any ideas?
[13:19] <libScout_> dork: does it matter that i am forwarding port 22 to the same cpu that contains the web server?
[13:20] <dork> libScout_: no, if you filter port 80 on the router it will have no impact on port 22 unless you make it
[13:20] <yogg> phlak_user: i don't think it must be run as root.  As user i can also change to another account with "su - otheruser" without root rights. If i find the right pam.d rules it should also work as www-data.   But maybe Iam on the wrong way
[13:20] <libScout_> dork: yeah... i didnt think of that
[13:20] <phlak_user> wide_awake: ok heres another way -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823835
[13:20] <libScout_> dork: ok... thanks for the help
[13:20] <dork> np
[13:20] <phlak_user> libScout_: yes
[13:21] <wide_awake> phlak_user, reading. thanks
[13:21] <phlak_user> drahst: brctl
[13:22] <drahst> how do I change the address?
[13:22] <phlak_user> !info bridge-utils
[13:22] <drahst> I can't even figure out how it is starting up... there's no config, but dnsmasq looks like it's firing up
[13:23] <Isumi> is there an easy way to switch to the vesa driver in ubuntu?
[13:24] <drahst> hmm... component main?
[13:24] <flummy> Isumi: maybe change /etc/X11/xorg.conf, Section "Device", Driver to "vesa", but i do not know
[13:24] <wide_awake> phlak_user, not quite what I'm looking for - I want to reorder the list, not add/remove entries.  I want GVim to always be first in the list, followed by all the other choices
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Isumi: you can blacklist drivers, i believe there is a boot option
[13:24] <drahst> I'm in just regular old cli...
[13:24] <wide_awake> I suspect it's just sorting them by name :-/
[13:24] <drahst> no xorg/x11 installed
[13:25] <sgs2_usr> can anyone tell me when Ubuntu 12.04 going to be out?
[13:25] <phlak_user> drahst: man brctl should give you some clues
[13:25] <flummy> sgs2_usr: probably some time in 1012
[13:25] <TehDGM> tomorrow
[13:25] <n0ti0nis> hi all, I compiled a version of linux kernel (taken from git repo), I have no .changes file, how can i upload it to my PPA without that file? I didn't find a complete wiki about that
[13:25] <sgs2_usr> fluido: 1012?
[13:25] <TehDGM> haha thats a long time ago
[13:25] <phlak_user> drahst: if the package isnt installed, typing sudo apt-get install bridge-utils would take care of that
[13:25] <flummy> s/1012/2012/
[13:25] <yorx39> sgs2_usr: April 2012
[13:25] <sgs2_usr> flummy: lol
[13:26] <sgs2_usr> thx guys
[13:26] <flummy> np
[13:27] <drahst> I've got bridge-utils installed... just not sure how to edit the bridge... didn't see an option in brctl
[13:30] <phlak_user> drahst: sudo brctl help will show you all options like add bridge, del bridge, add interface to bridge etc etc
[13:30] <g0rs> animations arent working in compiz , can anybody suggest what's wrong with it?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> sgs2_usr: if you look at the version number and think about it, you can work it out easily
[13:32] <BetaArk> Hi! Just got an question; I have sometimes 'freezes' with gnome-shell, I have an Intel HD (1gen), anyone know a possible solution?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: which release are you using?
[13:32] <BetaArk> Ubuntu 11.04
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell
[13:33] <GirlyGirl> !gnome3
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: how did you get it, its not in the repos....
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: if you installed Gnome3 via the PPA, you will get issues. You are supported in #gnome   not here
[13:33] <BetaArk> PPA
[13:33] <flummy> he probably just does not know that the irc channel #ubuntu does not want to provide support for gnome3
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: then its not supported here
[13:33] <Gale0n> Hi
[13:34] <yorx39> BetaArk: If you want to use Gnome Shell, Fedora is probably the distribution for you
[13:34] <Gale0n> I wanna install Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1950 Pro, but I'm having a problem :/
[13:34] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: What problem
[13:34] <Gale0n> Just won't install
[13:34] <BetaArk> Oke, np. I also have this issue with Unity/compiz sometimes. It just 'hanging', I have a Intel HD, read some topics; see that some users have the same issue?
[13:35] <Gale0n> I still lag on my PC
[13:35] <BetaArk> yorx39: Thanks, running Arch+Ubuntu at the moment. :)
[13:35] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: Did you use the restrickted driver manager
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> GirlyGirl: can I pm you please
[13:35] <GirlyGirl> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:36] <BetaArk> yorx39: Tried Fedora, but it still isnt that stable as Ubuntu. :)
[13:36] <yorx39> BetaArk: With Intel cards it can be worth upgrading to a newer kernel than Ubuntu 11.04 provides
[13:36] <yorx39> Though worth reading the bugzilla first
[13:36] <BetaArk> yorx39: I have the latest kernel running (PPA)
[13:37] <markskilbeck> Guys... why have I suddenly lost gnome-appearance-properties and gnome-font-viewer?
[13:37] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: I dunno how ?
[13:37] <stephni> which software converts videos and mp3s in ubuntu?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> stephni: mencoder can
[13:37] <BetaArk> yorx39: I have hybrid (optimus) by the way.. really sucks :(
[13:37] <Gale0n> stephni: Sound Converter
[13:37] <Gale0n> I dunno for video
[13:37] <BetaArk> Could that be an issue?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> markskilbeck: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:37] <systemclient> Can I create an Ubuntu appliance and distribute that?
[13:38] <the-light> I like work with ubuntu 9.04, but don't any repo for update that, any idea?
[13:38] <Gale0n> systemclient: If you say it's based on Ubuntu
[13:38] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: Search "unity" dash for restricted
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> stephni: ffmpeg -i file.avi -f mp3 file.mp3
[13:38] <systemclient> Gale0n: I would say "this is a Ubuntu box I made for our computer science class"
[13:38] <bipul> is there any l33t ubuntu user
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> the-light: jaunty is EOL, there is no more support for it in any way, shape or form
[13:39] <Gale0n> systemclient: And ?
[13:39] <systemclient> Gale0n: is that legal?
[13:39] <Gale0n> Yes
[13:39] <markskilbeck> ActionParsnip: natty
[13:39] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: Thnx
[13:39] <Gale0n> Where?
[13:39] <systemclient> Gale0n: okay, so no legal trap or so?
[13:39] <the-light> ActionParsnip: oh, tnx
[13:39] <Gale0n> systemclient: Just say it's Ubuntu
[13:40] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: You're welcome
[13:40] <systemclient> Gale0n: can I read up on this "Say itis Ubuntu" thing?
[13:40] <markskilbeck> ActionParsnip: for some reason gnome-control-center was uninstalled...
[13:40] <Gale0n> systemclient: ?
[13:40] <MrRagga> hi, alsaplay -l lists the sound card, but in pulseaudio i can see the dummy interface only. any hints?
[13:40] <systemclient> Gale0n: how do you know I have to say that it is Ubuntu?
[13:40] <Gale0n> Just say that you made it based on Ubuntu
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> markskilbeck: strange, can you reinstall it?
[13:40] <MrRagga> aplay foo.wav plays the wav file successfully
[13:41] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: Where do I search ?
[13:41] <markskilbeck> Yep. Reinstalled and everything's working as expected. Not sure how it came to be uninstalled, though.
[13:41] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: Press the windows key
[13:41] <markskilbeck> I'll attribute it to cosmis radiation.
[13:41] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: There should be a search box in the dash shown
[13:41] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: Yes
[13:41] <Gale0n> But
[13:42] <Gale0n> I search, and only "Launcher and Menus" comes up
[13:42] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: ALT +F2 then type "jockey"
[13:42] <Gale0n> Then ?
[13:43] <Defusal> hi everyone, is there any way to tell how much load processes are using, to see whats using so much load?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Defusal: run:  top
[13:43] <Isumi> the strange thing is that it's always the google doodle that crash my computer.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Isumi: use www.google.com/ig    and it won't load
[13:44] <Defusal> ActionParsnip, top shows the overall cpu load, and cpu usage percentages, but *not* the load per process.
[13:44] <bastidrazor> Defusal: System > Administration > System Monitor  if you want a graphical way
[13:44] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: ?
[13:44] <Gale0n> What do I do now ?
[13:44] <Isumi> thx ActionParsnip
[13:44] <west> anyone from macedonia ?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Defusal: it does if you look in the bottom section
[13:45] <jas> kaj si dikiz
[13:45] <west> eve emile :D
[13:45] <bastidrazor> Defusal: press c in top and it'll list by cpu%
[13:45] <Defusal> bastidrazor, this is a server
[13:45] <west> kaj si ti
[13:45] <jas> so imame sega?
[13:45] <west> makedonski
[13:45] <Defusal> ActionParsnip and bastidrazor, i am not interested in cpu pecentage, i need to see the *load* per process
[13:45] <west> a posele znajsh ?
[13:46] <jas> ne
[13:46] <LjL> !pl
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Defusal: %CPU  is the load....no?
[13:46] <jas> kaj si antonia
[13:46] <Defusal> ActionParsnip: No.
[13:46] <Defusal> CPU Percentage != CPU Load
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Defusal: how is it different. If the cpu is 50% in use then it is loaded by 50% surely
[13:47] <antonio_> canale italiano? how search it?
[13:47] <VonLipwig> Hi, could someone tell me how to connect to a server via ssh. I have the IP, port, username and password. I used to use Mac Coda to sign in. I can't work out what to do to connect via terminal
[13:47] <LjL> !it | antonio_
[13:47] <Defusal> my cpu usage percentage is low, the load is however very high, and i need to find out why exactly
[13:48] <west> има некој од Македонија ?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> VonLipwig: you can use:   ssh -X -C username@servername -p PORTNUM
[13:48] <Defusal> ActionParsnip, percentage is the overall usage, load is how much processes are asking to use the CPU at exactly the same time.. i dont have time to teach you details, research it yourself
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Defusal: will do
[13:49] <xiaowu> will
[13:49] <VonLipwig> ActionParsnip thanks
[13:49] <RocknRoll> ei
[13:49] <bastidrazor> Defusal: which kernel are you using? in Lucid with 2.6.32-34 my load when way up. i went back to -33 and all is well. why i don't know.
[13:49] <xiaowu> 689
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> VonLipwig: the -X enables X forwarding, the -C enables compression (little extra treats)
[13:49] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: do you use compiz?
[13:50] <xiaowu> begine
[13:50] <xiaowu> yes
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: rarely
[13:50] <west> kazhi
[13:50] <west> tuka si
[13:50] <jas> da
[13:50] <jas> dad
[13:50] <jas> da
[13:50] <jas> da
[13:50] <FloodBot1> jas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <west> more budala kolku si
[13:50] <xiaowu> unkonw english
[13:50] <Defusal> ActionParsnip, you can have a very low percentage, but if processes need to use more of the processor at the same time than there is processing power, it will be overloaded and can cause issues that go as far as your system clock falling behind, since there isnt enough time to process what is requested at that given point in time
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> !ru | west
[13:51] <west> what ?
[13:51] <KBentley57> whilst eavesdropping on the topic, does anyone run projects in BOINC?
[13:51] <west> no
[13:51] <Pici> !ot
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Defusal: sorely a high load will use more CPU percentage though
[13:51] <jas> gumno
[13:51] <jas> edno
[13:51] <west> emile  e budala
[13:51] <KBentley57> it shows stressed cores, but no process taking up CPU time
[13:52] <Olleh> the load avg is the number of processes/threads queued.
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Defusal: ahhh, queue length. That makes it clear
[13:52] <Olleh> a load average of 2 in a 4 core cpu is not overloaded, but an load average of 2 on a 1 core machine is bad
[13:53] <flummy> the load average is the average number of provesses/threads in the runnable queue in a specific timeframe
[13:53] <jason_> why is it when I run sudo rsync -a, it does NOT (repeat- NOT) retain my permissions or ownership of files I move to my external via the rsync command?
[13:53] <Defusal> bastidrazor, 2.6.32-29-server, the load is high at certain times, and low at others, i need to find out why, so i can report an issue to my hosting provider if it is not a processes fault
[13:53] <flummy> and it does not take Input/Output (Hard Disk Access) load into consideration
[13:53] <Defusal> ActionParsnip, yeah
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Defusal: got it :)
[13:54] <Olleh> jason_: check the man pages, more specifically the -p option
[13:54] <Defusal> Olleh, my load is anywhere from 0.7 to over 3 on a 2 core server
[13:54] <Gale0n> Hello ?
[13:54] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: Sorry wasn't there
[13:54] <Gale0n> Lol NP
[13:54] <Gale0n> So
[13:54] <Defusal> with nothing using extra load
[13:54] <Gale0n> What do I do now ?
[13:54] <Defusal> that i can tell
[13:54] <Olleh> Defusal: then your machine goes from ok, to overloaded. anything can cause it, even slow IO
[13:54] <Defusal> so i need a way to measure load per process...
[13:54] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: What do you see now after launching "jockey"
[13:54] <Gale0n> There's a small difference, but not much
[13:54] <Gale0n> I see nothing
[13:54] <Gale0n> :/
[13:55] <Gale0n> AHA
[13:55] <Gale0n> Wait
[13:55] <Olleh> if there is no obvious cpu hog, you may need to lookup a way of checking the IO per process. (i dont know how/if its possible)
[13:55] <Gale0n> You gave me wrong command
[13:55] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: sorry type ALT + F2 then enter "jockey-gtk"
[13:55] <jason_> Olleh: I did check the man pages. As I notated, I used -a. -a SHOULD do it.
[13:55] <Defusal> Olleh, so theres no way to measure what is using the load?
[13:55] <Gale0n> I needed "jockey-gtk"
[13:55] <Gale0n> Lol
[13:55] <Defusal> because i cant report an issue to my hosting provider unless im sure there is one
[13:55] <flummy> Defusal: the time spent by the cpus in the bottom half of (I/O) drivers is not reflected in the load average, as this is only the average number of process in the process scheduler's runable queue
[13:55] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: Sorry I'm not too familliar with these commands as I use kde
[13:56] <Olleh> Defusal: loadavg is just a metric, the cause can be pretty much anything. But the main reasons are slow IO (harddrive) or maxed CPU
[13:56] <Gale0n> "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[13:56] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: No problem
[13:56] <Gale0n> I'm gonna work on my KDE later too :P
[13:56] <incorrect> for some reason there is some strange gtk widget covering the bottom right corner, i am sure i once removed it
[13:56] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: open terminal and type "lspci"
[13:56] <Gale0n> KK
[13:56] <Defusal> Olleh, im pretty sure there are no IO bottlenecks, i get 100/100Mbps internet connectivity, even though i pay for 100/10, and i have nothing that is hdd intensive...
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: can you give a screenshot please
[13:57] <flummy> Defusal: measure i/o performance, then
[13:57] <Gale0n> WTF
[13:57] <Gale0n> "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV570 [Radeon X1950 Pro]"
[13:57] <Gale0n> "01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV570 [Radeon X1950 Pro] (secondary)"
[13:57] <Gale0n> Why secondary
[13:57] <Olleh> Defusal: yeah, measure your harddrive. Check for harddrive errors, etc.
[13:57] <flummy> Defusal: ambe with iostat 10
[13:57] <flummy> maybe
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Gale0n: sometimes the svideo out or similar has its own thing
[13:57] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: send the entire output on paste.ubuntu.com
[13:58] <lokomis> adriana- is a spambot for any OPs that are on.
[13:58] <incorrect> ActionParsnip, i found it, they call it the resize grip,
[13:58] <Olleh> iostat will tell you how much your harddrive is being used.. but it wont tell you what it causing it. If you find that your harddrive is being thrashed (possibly by swap) you'll need to trial/error
[13:59] <Defusal> Olleh, the drive is part of a high performance cloud
[13:59] <Defusal> how do i tell the percentage Olleh?
[13:59] <Olleh> ah. then im not sure. I still say measure everything. If there is nothing hogging the CPU chances are its something to do with IO
[13:59] <zimb0> adriana- is a spam bot, set me a link to a porn site immediately after i joined the channel
[13:59] <Pici> zimb0: thanks
[14:00] <Olleh> i dont think you can check percentage
[14:00] <Olleh> at least to my knowledge. if you find out, i'd be interested to know too
[14:00] <Defusal> iostat 10 says 75% cpu idle
[14:00] <Defusal> Device:            tps   Blk_read/s   Blk_wrtn/s   Blk_read   Blk_wrtn
[14:00] <Defusal> sda                3.20         0.00        33.60          0        336
[14:00] <fly_high75> does anyone know how to share file & folder using wired connection?
[14:00] <Defusal> thats pretty much useless to me :(
[14:00] <Olleh> fly_high75: scp?
[14:01] <fly_high75> what is scp?
[14:01] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706718/
[14:01] <dweez> secure copy
[14:01] <Olleh> secure copy, across ssh.
[14:01] <dweez> type "man scp"
[14:01] <Defusal> any idea how to interpet that flummy?
[14:01] <iDorito> What was the incentive behind creating Ubuntu
[14:01] <iDorito> and why wouldn't the creators settle with Debian
[14:02] <dweez> I heard it was based on Debian because it had the longer running stable releases
[14:02] <dweez> more time to build off a stable core
[14:02] <fly_high75> then?
[14:02] <Gale0n> iDorito: It's based off Debian
[14:02] <nbest>  /join #knowyourmeme
[14:03] <Gale0n> Also, they wanted less-fortunate people to have a computer
[14:03] <Olleh> fly_high75: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/TransferFiles
[14:03] <iDorito> Ok.
[14:03] <Gale0n> You know Mark Shuttleworth ?
[14:03] <iDorito> No.
[14:03] <iDorito> I don't think so.
[14:03] <Gale0n> He started it
[14:03] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: Doesn't the card work out of the box?
[14:03] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: No
[14:03] <Gale0n> :/
[14:03] <Defusal> he lives in the same town as me :)
[14:04] <Defusal> Ubuntu is awesome
[14:04] <edbian> Defusal: +1
[14:04] <iDorito> Okay, I understand.
[14:04] <iDorito> What's this about stable releases though
[14:04] <Gale0n> Defusal: Where you live ?
[14:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:04] <Gale0n> iDorito: ?
[14:04] <Defusal> you should see marks garden, wow
[14:04] <Defusal> Gale0n, Cape Town, South Africa
[14:04] <Gale0n> Defusal: :<
[14:05] <iDorito> Yeah. Like, I keep hearing about release cycles, stable vs. unstable releases, LTS (I know what it stands for), etc. etc.
[14:05] <Defusal> why :<?
[14:05] <iDorito> I don't understand the context/significance of these things. It's confusing me.
[14:05] <Gale0n> Wherabout in Cape Town, Defusal ?
[14:05] <iDorito> Where can I find out more?
[14:05] <Defusal> Olleh, io wait % is 0.13
[14:05] <Gale0n> iDorito: I dunno .. :/
[14:05] <Defusal> Gale0n, Durbanville
[14:05] <Gale0n> Defusal: Where about ?
[14:05] <Defusal> oh i see you're also from SA
[14:06] <Gale0n> Yeah yeah
[14:06] <iDorito> Basically, where can I learn more about how Ubuntu is developed and why it's based on Debian?
[14:06] <Olleh> Defusal: at the moment, yeah. But check it when your load increases.
[14:06] <Defusal> i live like 10 mins from marks garden
[14:06] <iDorito> And the logic behind the development choices.
[14:06] <Pici> Gale0n, Defusal: This channel is for support only, do you mind moving the off-topic conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[14:06]  * Gale0n puffs up my chest
[14:06] <Gale0n> Yes Pici, I do.
[14:06] <Gale0n> Loljk
[14:07] <iDorito> Hahaha.
[14:07] <GirlyGirl> Gale0n: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:07] <Defusal> heh
[14:08] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[14:08] <Pici> iDorito: You may want to see http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu as well as our entry in Wikipedia.
[14:08] <Halabund> Hi!  On windows I can use 'start' to launch anything from the command line as if it were started from explorer.  Is there an equivalent for gnome?
[14:08] <yellabs-r2> is there a way to play a movie in slowmotion using mplayer and commandline ?
[14:08] <Olleh> Halabund: alt+F2 ?
[14:08] <dweez> Halabund, Alt+F2?
[14:08] <iDorito> Pici: Actually, what I want to understand is how release cycles/LTS works.
[14:08] <iDorito> I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the purpose of these.
[14:08] <edbian> yellabs-r2: I'm not sure mplayer can but vlc DEF can in the gui and it's easy.
[14:09] <iDorito> I don't really get what it is.
[14:09] <yellabs-r2> maybe totem can do it too ?
[14:09] <Halabund> Olleh, dweez, no.  E.g. 'start asd.pdf' would launch asd.pdf in the default reader.  'start .' will open the current dir in explorer.
[14:09] <edbian> yellabs-r2: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/playing-in-slow-motion-with-mplayer-474794/
[14:10] <yellabs-r2> thanks , you are the man !
[14:10] <yellabs-r2> :)
[14:10] <zimb0> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth <-- the founder of ubuntu, he was also at one point a debian developer
[14:10] <dweez> why use "start"...wouldn't just using the "asd.pdf" be sufficient?
[14:11] <dweez> sorry, not understanding exactly what you're hoping to accomplish I guess
[14:11] <Olleh> yellabs-r2: there is gnome-open
[14:11] <Pici> iDorito: We do a regular release every 6 months.  These are normally supported (sercurity and major bugfix updates) for 18 months.  Every two years we have an LTS release which is supported for 3 to 5 years. 3 years for desktop packages, 5 for server.
[14:11] <Lithos84> !releases | iDorito
[14:11] <iDorito> Thanks for the response.
[14:12] <edgy> Hi, setfacl is working even without mounting the filesystem with acl, how come?
[14:12] <iDorito> My question is what exactly does "supported" mean in this context?
[14:12] <mr_daniel> Is there a roadmap to switch Ubuntu from Upstart to systemd?
[14:12] <Olleh> sorry yellabs-r2, wrong nick ;)
[14:12] <Olleh> Halabund: there is gnome-open
[14:12] <sagaci> iDorito, you get updates
[14:12] <Halabund> Olleh, that's it, apparently.  Thanks
[14:12] <iDorito> What, like driver updates?
[14:12] <Lithos84> iDorito: It means upgrades and, if you can pay for it, support from Canonical.
[14:12] <sagaci> iDorito, software updates, yes and people in here will help you
[14:13] <iDorito> So let me get this straight. Every 6 months, Ubuntu releases a new LTS version?
[14:13] <iDorito> Or is it just a regular version update?
[14:13] <sagaci> iDorito, regular version 6 months
[14:13] <Pici> iDorito: No. Every 6 months we release a standard version that is only supported for 18 months.
[14:13] <sagaci> iDorito, every 4th release is an LTS
[14:14] <sagaci> next one tentatively being in april '12
[14:14] <Pici> iDorito: It may be handy to note that our version numbers indicate the YEAR.MONTH of release. so 11.04 was released in April of 2011.
[14:14] <iDorito> Okay, so every 6 months, a new version of Ubuntu is released, and the Ubuntu Foundation commits to providing driver- and software updates for 18 months past the release for each and every release?
[14:14] <iDorito> Except for LTS, which is supported for a longer period of time?
[14:14] <sagaci> iDorito, correct
[14:15] <iDorito> What about third party software?
[14:15] <iDorito> How do third party release cycles tie in with Ubuntu
[14:15] <iDorito> and how do you maintain compatibility
[14:15] <GirlyGirl> iDorito: Software updates as in new features reduce once a release is no longer current but bugfixes come  in
[14:15] <sagaci> iDorito, most of third party is "supported" by the community
[14:15] <sagaci> ie. MOTU
[14:15] <Pici> iDorito: Sort of.  Software updates are not provided if there is just a new version available upstream, we only provide updates for major bugfixes or security issues.
[14:16] <Pici> !latest
[14:16] <GirlyGirl> iDorito: Kind of like Microsofts mainstream support and extended support
[14:16] <sagaci> unless it's something like flash which is supported in the Canonical partner repos
[14:16] <iDorito> Wait, so are Ubuntu versions that are past their 18 month support eligibility offered any updates *at all* from the Ubuntu foundation?
[14:16] <steph7> I see the essid in iwconfig but the access-point isn't associated...it's an ath5k atheros on natty...what can I do?
[14:16] <iDorito> Or are they dropped completely?
[14:17] <sagaci> iDorito, they go End of Life
[14:17] <iDorito> Ooh.
[14:17] <Neutrinoo> Anyone here has any experience with Prolog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog)?
[14:17] <iDorito> Okay.
[14:17] <yorx39> iDorito: Dropped
[14:17] <Anahi88> hi
[14:17] <yorx39> iDorito: Makes you release how long Windows supports their OS for
[14:17] <Neutrinoo> Anyone here has any experience with Prolog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog ) ?
[14:17] <Pici> Neutrinoo: Thats not really on-topic for an Ubuntu support channel.
[14:17] <sagaci> iDorito, you can still technically use them but you won't get updates
[14:17] <yorx39> Neutrinoo: I used prolog at Uni for a module. You have my sympathy
[14:17] <iDorito> But then how do you keep all of your favorite applications updated along with your Ubuntu version?
[14:18] <iDorito> What if you jump from one version to the next, and notice that none of your apps have been updated?
[14:18] <sagaci> iDorito, you can upgrade or clean install
[14:18] <Lithos84> iDorito: Upgrade Ubuntu to a new version.
[14:18] <yellabs-r2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:18] <Pici> iDorito: We sync from debian for each new release.
[14:18] <yellabs-r2> release cycle
[14:18] <adapter> kaj si dikiz
[14:18] <iDorito> I don't understand how that answers my question about software becoming obsolete.
[14:18] <yellabs-r2> there used to be an nice graphic of release cycles, dont know where that one is now
[14:18] <adapter> kako si
[14:18] <iDorito> Am I missing something in your replies
[14:19] <adapter> so cas imame sega
[14:19] <Pici> !en | adapter
[14:19] <yellabs-r2> is software obsolete , or just "old "
[14:19] <Lithos84> iDorito: If you upgrade to a new version, your software will be upgraded as well.
[14:19] <iDorito> But what about third party software?
[14:19] <adapter> tuka si dikiz
[14:20] <LjL> iDorito: if you install software not from the repositories you're on your own
[14:20] <dweez> new versions get added to the repositories all the time
[14:20] <iDorito> Isn't that a pretty big problem?
[14:20] <Atlantic777> What's FLOSS alternative for video communication?
[14:20] <dweez> but yes as LjL said
[14:20] <iDorito> And a flaw?
[14:20] <dweez> iDorito, Linux has been like that for years
[14:20] <dweez> not a flaw
[14:20] <LjL> iDorito: uh, not like third-party software updates automagically on other systems
[14:20] <dweez> just like Windows
[14:20] <Atlantic777> Like a skype, jabber has video?
[14:20] <yellabs-r2> all software is like that
[14:20] <Anahi88> hi, i have ubuntu 11.04 and im having some problems loging into hotmail... although i can enter the webpage "www.hotmail.com" once i try to enter my account and pwd it wont display the page...
[14:20] <dweez> Windws Update only updates system files
[14:20] <yellabs-r2> even your phone
[14:21] <artzra> hi
[14:21] <iDorito> LjL: Well, with other OS' the distinction between releases is greater, and updates provided for your OS won't render your third party software support obsolete.
[14:21] <Lithos84> Atlantic777: Yes, it does.
[14:21] <iDorito> You can always expect a Windows Vista application to work on Windows Vista and so forth.
[14:21] <tomodachi> Anahi88: works fine for me when I try just now, use chrome
[14:21] <Lithos84> artzra: Hello.
[14:21] <Anahi88> im using chrome
[14:21] <Jahcros> Anahi88: Do you have some sort of script blocker running?
[14:21] <dweez> iDorito, have you ever experienced some of your 3rd party software being obsolete?
[14:21] <artzra> Lithos84, hi
[14:21] <iDorito> dweez: In Windows or Ubuntu?
[14:22] <dweez> either
[14:22] <iDorito> No, I don't think so.
[14:22] <dweez> and you can't compare Windows and Linux apples to apples
[14:22] <artzra> by chance, can i have some help
[14:22] <dweez> so you're worried about something that has never happened before?
[14:22] <Halabund> How can I install Sun's (Oracle's) Java instead of OpenJDK on Oneiric?  (Need it to log in to bank)
[14:22] <Lithos84> iDorito: Most of third party software will be upgraded along with Ubuntu.
[14:22] <LjL> iDorito: LTS releases are supported for 3 years, that seems enough time to me
[14:22] <Lithos84> !ask | artzra
[14:23] <dweez> Ubuntu's apt-get repos support a lot of apps, not just the Ubuntu-base
[14:23] <iDorito> dweez: Well, I'm not an avid Ubuntu user. I've only played around with it before. I am merely commenting on the logic behind the release philosophy.
[14:23] <Anahi88> i dont know :(.... im sorry im kind of new to this whole thing... although i have been using ubuntu for 2 years now.. i always received help from a friend
[14:23] <jenky_> is there a command to enable packet injection?
[14:23] <iDorito> I mean, as a desktop user, you kind of want to feel confident that you can always hold a third party provider responsible for having their software work on your OS.
[14:23] <dweez> iDorito, I think the problem here is you're coming at Linux with a Windows midnset
[14:23] <dweez> mindset
[14:24] <iDorito> Windows/OSX mindset* I guess?
[14:24] <dweez> If a 3rd party app no longer works, then it's on the app developer to update their software
[14:24] <iDorito> But that doesn't change my question I think. :/
[14:24] <LjL> iDorito: that's simply unreasonable to expect on Linux, with the huge number of distributions there is. here it's the *distribution* that's usually responsible for making software work, not the software provider
[14:24] <yorx39> iDorito: There are some disadvantages to Linux software management undoubtedly. Most users don't care if their core OS upgrades each six months, just the user software they use
[14:24] <dweez> Service Pack1 for windows 2000 broke ZoneAlarm
[14:24] <artzra> context : new install : PC strange slow, some application " banshee" "ntfs-config"dont open
[14:24] <dweez> ZoneAlarm fixed their app and released an update
[14:25] <iDorito> Yes yorx39 this is sort of what I am getting at.
[14:25] <iDorito> :-/
[14:25] <iDorito> To me, it sounds like a flaw in the release philosophy.
[14:25] <wide_awake> Halabund, download the jdk from them and then add it to your path and/or JAVA_HOME
[14:25] <dweez> No one says you have to upgrade each time
[14:25] <yorx39> iDorito: That's why some people use rolling release
[14:25] <iDorito> rolling release = LTS?
[14:25] <yellabs-r2> just move from LTS to LTS ( long term support )
[14:25] <dweez> no
[14:25] <artzra> i have install Ubuntu-Studio 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Daily Build
[14:25] <Halabund> wide_awake, why was it removed from the repos?
[14:26] <jas> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnvbbnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn05
[14:26] <LjL> iDorito: no, rolling release is something that Ubuntu doesn't have, namely instead of having fixed release your system updates continuously
[14:26] <yorx39> iDorito: No, it's where your OS continuously upgrades whenever new software is available. The kernel, GNOME, everything
[14:26] <dweez> artzra, oneiric questions go in #ubuntu+1
[14:26] <iDorito> Oic.
[14:26] <greg3000> hi everyone, I'm working with nm-applet (network manager) and I want to be able to save my wireless password.  I understand that I must check "available to all users" on the connection settings, and I must have gnome-keyring running for that.  How do I make sure gnome-keyring is running?
[14:26] <wide_awake> Halabund, I didn't know the oracle/sun one was ever in the repos
[14:26] <sagaci> iDorito, the closest you'd get to rolling release is by using the dev releases, which isn't really recommended unless you have a spare system that you don't rely on
[14:26] <Lithos84> !details | artzra
[14:26] <yellabs-r2> is it not the same with windows , moved from Xp to Vista to Windows 7 and now windows 8
[14:26] <Halabund> wide_awake, it was ... can't find it in oneiric.  it was in the "partner" repos in 11.04
[14:26] <yorx39> Or using Arch/Gentoo ;)
[14:26] <winadmin> help me
[14:27] <Lithos84> !11.10 | artzra
[14:27] <dweez> yellabs-r2, even more granular...Service Pack to Service Pack
[14:27] <wide_awake> Halabund, that's one of those things I always install by hand, so I guess I can't help ya :-/
[14:27] <yellabs-r2> yeah even worse
[14:27] <yellabs-r2> hehe
[14:27] <wide_awake> (unless you want to install it by hand, of course)
[14:27] <winadmin> Ubuntu 11.10: whats new?
[14:27] <LjL> winadmin: nothing yet, since it's not released yet :) ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:28] <iDorito> Well, as far as I'm concerned, the third party software provider commits to providing their software to users of a certain OS, such as OSX Lion, Windows 7, Windows XP and so forth. This puts the pressure on them to always ensure that their software works on the given OS. At the same time, rolling OS releases ensures (I am guessing) that the OS won't have any radical changes that would render the third party software obsolete. It seems 
[14:28] <iDorito> a perfect software ecosystem for desktop users.
[14:28] <winadmin> #ubuntu+1
[14:28] <iDorito> With Ubuntu on the other hand, it seems to be the complete opposite. :/
[14:29] <iDorito> This is what I find a little strange, you know?
[14:29] <Isumi> rolling release prevent your from making any radical change
[14:29] <yorx39> iDorito: Rolling release is hard to keep stable though, especially with so many integrated packages like Ubuntu. It's not without its own issues
[14:29] <Isumi> so it's not ideal
[14:29] <iDorito> Isumi: Well, the radical changes come with each big release.
[14:29] <iDorito> Windows XP -> Vista -> 7 -> 8 etc.
[14:29] <dweez> [Wed 12 | 10:28:53] <iDorito> With Ubuntu on the other hand, it seems to be the complete opposite. :/ <== It might seem that way, but it isn't
[14:30] <dweez> IMHO, rolling releases (Arch, Gentoo) you have more of a chance of a surpise update changing things drastically than you do with Ubuntu
[14:30] <iDorito> Well, I always like to keep myself updated. I would hate to update my Ubuntu one day, only to find that some of my apps have become obsolete.
[14:30] <dweez> iDorito, you've NEVER had that
[14:31] <dweez> so why now all of a sudden are you worried?
[14:31] <iDorito> dweez: Actually, now that I think about it, I think I have. :x
[14:31] <sagaci> iDorito, it's not that bad having a slightly out-of-date solitaire game
[14:31] <yorx39> iDorito: Rolling release is partly harder on Linux because the way shared libraries/software is used. On Windows every music player bundles its own MP3 decoder etc., on Linux they use the same one. It saves space (irrelevant these days) but makes it more complex
[14:31] <iDorito> Haha.
[14:31] <KM0201> does anyone know of a photo program, that has a PNP plugin, so i can browse a share?
[14:32] <iDorito> Also, what if you want to use an obscure application for whatever purpose, and it turns out to be like
[14:32] <iDorito> completely outdated
[14:32] <iDorito> so Ubuntu won't even let you install it via the app manager
[14:32] <dweez> iDorito, who's fault is that?
[14:32] <greg3000> hi everyone, I'm working with nm-applet (network manager) and I want to be able to save my wireless password.  I understand that I must check "available to all users" on the connection settings, and I must have gnome-keyring running for that.  How do I make sure gnome-keyring is running so I can make a network connection available to all users?
[14:32] <dweez> So you're saying an outdated app is the fault of the Ubuntu developers?
[14:32] <gunksta> I've got a server running KVM and I can connect to it remotely on the LAN (using Virtual Machine Manager), but I can't seem to connect to it outside the LAN, although I do have the necessary port forwarding set up on port 2222. Any thoughts on what I need to do so I can connect to my VM through my firewall?
[14:33] <Myrtti> can we keep the philosophical discussion of differences of distros and rolling release model vs. set schedules to #ubuntu-offtopic so this channel can be reserved for support questions?
[14:33] <Myrtti> thank you
[14:33] <yorx39> iDorito: You're not the first person to think these things. The fact application developers have to compile different versions of their application for not just separate distributions, but versions of those distros is lunacy. On Windows the same .exe will work on XP, Windows 7, Vista etc.
[14:33] <iDorito> dweez: Well, in windows it wouldnt be obsolete as long as its the right version of windows.
[14:34] <iDorito> Yeah yorx39. :/
[14:34] <dweez> iDorito, this conversation is off-topic (as pointed out by Myrtti) so we need to drop it
[14:34] <iDorito> Anyway, you've answered all of my questions. Thanks for clarifying.
[14:34] <MrElendig> dweez: distupgrades on fixed release distroes can be way more hairy than the updates you get with rolling release. Eg back in the bad old days it was even recommended to not do a distupgrade at all between some ubuntu versions, but to reinstall instead
[14:34] <iDorito> Well, I've gathered enough info. Thanks for taking the time to explain. :-)
[14:35] <yellabs-r2> iDorito , good luck with your quest :)
[14:36] <Halabund> in which config file is the path set globally for the system?
[14:37] <jas> 1DDDDDDDDDDDDXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD ]//////\'''''''''''\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'''''''''''\\\\
[14:37] <seanbright> /etc/environment i think?
[14:37] <kolinab> good day everyone. . . is this the right place to ask how to add a launcher to my unity panel? (if so, I'll get specific)
[14:37] <LjL> jas: cat off the keyboard please
[14:37] <yellabs-r2> jas , thats a great piece of code , can i use it ?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> kolinab: yes, ask away
[14:39] <kolinab> Thanks ActionParsnip - simple question I hope. I have an application installed under wine, which works great. If I right click the .exe file for the app and select 'open with wine' it works just as I want it. I just can't seem to figure out how to add a launcher for that file to my unity panel, know what I mean?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> kolinab: you may find the installer has an item in dash, drag it from dash to the Unity launcher
[14:40] <Stanley00> kolinab: run that exe, and then "keep on launcher" ?
[14:40] <CharlieSu> Hi.  I have a server I SSH onto before I can SSH into other servers on my private network.  Is there a way to skip this step through configuration?  Using one server as a tunnel automatically?
[14:40] <jas> <[[[POUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYY[''''''''''''''''''''''''/GHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYHHHGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH/////////////////////////////////////////
[14:41] <kolinab> Stanley  - that's the simple answer I was looking for. will try asap. There is nothing in the dash because it's an old group of wine files from long ago and the dash has somehow long ago dissappeared
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> kolinab: if it doesn't work, you can always make your own .desktop file in /usr/share/applications and then it WILL appear in dash ;)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> !away > SomeoneWeirdzzzz
[14:43] <kolinab> Stanley, I'll let you know if I get it to work. No joy yet but I understand the idea. ActionP I didn't know how to do that before, many thanks. Will check it out.
[14:43] <SomeoneWeirdzzzz> -.- ActionParsnip
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> SomeoneWeirdzzzz: please don't away like that in future
[14:44] <SomeoneWeirdzzzz> so I can't change my nick?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> SomeoneWeirdzzzz: not just because you away. , just leave. You can idle all day if you want
[14:45] <libScout_> is there a way to make the cli display larger on my monitor? using a 21" CRT on Ubuntu Server (monitor is like an EMP!)
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> libScout_: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[14:46] <libScout_> ActionParsnip: perfect... thanks
[14:48] <jason_> what am I doing wrong here? sudo service networking resetart. "unknown instance."
[14:48] <iDorito> yellabs-r2: Thanks.
[14:49] <sgs2_usr> can anyone tell me why VMWare Workstation 8 gives me problem with screen renderring when i hover my mouse out of the guest OS in my Ubuntu 11.04? VMWare Workstation 7.1.4 never gives me this problem...
[14:49] <vicen> ola
[14:50] <jas> HI
[14:50] <jas> 2 ALL
[14:50] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: were you on natty with vmware 7?
[14:50] <Lithos84> jas: Hello.
[14:50] <vicen> cabrón
[14:50] <jas> EEEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEEQE GN,KHL
[14:50] <jas> HEY
[14:51] <adapter> ma gde sve jebove
[14:51] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: im on Ubuntu 11.04 with VMWare Workstation 8
[14:52] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: but were you using 11.04 when you were using Workstation 7.1.4?
[14:52] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: yup
[14:52] <adapter> kaj si emile
[14:52] <Halabund> how do I set the path for root?
[14:52] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: sounds like a query for the VMWare guys since thats your variable
[14:52] <Lithos84> !en | adapter
[14:52] <Halabund> it seems to have a different path from that set in /etc/environment
[14:53] <adapter> yktdku
[14:53] <adapter> zosto me baniravte
[14:53] <west>  mroe ne bidete budala
[14:53] <Bisu[Shield]> is 11.10 being released tomorrow?
[14:53] <west> budali *
[14:54] <adapter> so
[14:54] <Aric> http://xkcd.com/963
[14:54] <adapter> koj rece deka sve budali
[14:54] <Aric> so true :)
[14:54] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: lulz, were you talking to someoneweird?
[14:54] <adapter> kako ne
[14:54] <TheLastProject> adapter: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:54] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: I got asked to post this question in OS specific channel, and now u are asking me to post back to vmware channle....lol
[14:54] <Suhel> Hello the world
[14:54] <Bisu[Shield]> am i invisible?
[14:55] <TheLastProject> You are partially visible
[14:55] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: hahahaha... you could try turning off Unity to see if that is it
[14:55] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: i am on gnome-classic
[14:55] <TheLastProject> Bisu[Shield], the release date is planned for tomorrow so likely, but of course not 100% sure, you never know what happens
[14:55] <Suhel> Thelastproject best of Luck for your last project
[14:55] <TheLastProject> No clue around what time tomorrow though
[14:55] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: whats the host OS?
[14:55] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit
[14:56] <Suhel> ^^. Yay am gonna get an update tomorrow
[14:56] <Aric> Where can I find a list of changes in 11.10 vs 11.04?
[14:56] <Halabund> How do I set the path for root (sudo)?? It seems to have a different path from that set in /etc/environment
[14:56] <Halabund> Why does this have to be so difficult?
[14:56] <Bisu[Shield]> i just recked by desktop by upgrading from gnome 3.02 to 3.2, i was about to do a fresh install because I cannot figure it out but if 11.10 is being release I prefer to upgrade
[14:56] <Suhel> ArIc in the release notes
[14:56] <Aric> Suhel: Where are the release notes..
[14:57] <systemclient> I do "# su tomcat6" and I stay root. any idea on this?
[14:57] <Bisu[Shield]> im also curious what is the worse that can happen if I upgrade today
[14:57] <Suhel> Aric you will find em once 11.10 is released
[14:57] <BluesKaj> anyway bbl
[14:57] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: see if this thread helps http://communities.vmware.com/message/70967
[14:57] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: okay
[14:57] <Suhel> Bisu[Shield]: nothing worse could happen unless you haven't backed up your data
[14:58] <TheLastProject> Bisu[Shield], I would recommend waiting for the official release, buggy releases are no fun >:
[14:58] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: this thread describe for windows as host
[14:58] <Suhel> #ubuntu ^^.
[14:58] <Pici> : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[14:58] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: im assuming you are running on an intel pc... its hardware specific not OS
[14:59] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: yes, it's Intel
[14:59] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: but how do you explain it works for 7.1.4 and not 8?
[14:59] <Laura_morenita> Hola
[14:59] <Suhel> Pici I was wondering why no one is objecting the discussions and there you are :-D
[14:59] <Suhel> Laura_morenita: Holla
[14:59] <Lithos84> Aric: This may be help to have an idea: http://ur1.ca/5dves
[14:59] <Bisu[Shield]> on a separate note, why is gnome 3 not the session manager as opposed to unity, I find unity awkward
[15:00] <TheLastProject> Unity is to cater to make Linux easier for new users. You can still switch to Gnome by choosing "Ubuntu Classic" I believe
[15:00] <Suhel> Bisu[Shield]: you can have classic menu easily
[15:00] <Lithos84> Laura_morenita: Hello.
[15:00] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: could be a ton of reasons... but probably something to do with graphic card acceleration...
[15:00] <Laura_morenita> Holà
[15:01] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: yeah, that's what i thought too....
[15:01] <Suhel> Thelastproject that option will only be available if he installs gnome shell from software center :-)
[15:01] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: no solution....sigh :D
[15:01] <TheLastProject> Really?
[15:01] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: sorry... degrade?
[15:01] <TheLastProject> I thought I could switch without any installation =/
[15:01] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: i need to use 8 features
[15:02] <Suhel> TheLastProject: lol.. yeah but shell is not a heavy software
[15:02] <libScout_> sgs2_usr: well crap on a stick... i would go back to VMWare and see if others are having trouble with graphics on WS8
[15:02] <libScout_> libScout_: and if so, open a ticket
[15:03] <sgs2_usr> libScout_: yeah, i think i will open a ticket..
[15:03] <dyd> guys how can i kill Gimp by command line?
[15:03] <dyd> can't find the process, and it crashed
[15:03] <greg3000> dyd: killall -9 gimp
[15:03] <jrib> dyd: pkill gimp   ?  If it's not gimp, try: ps -ef | grep gimp
[15:04] <dyd> can't find the processù
[15:04] <greg3000> I'm running openbox, I'm trying to follow a tutorial and it says go to "System --> Preferences --> Passwords and Encryption Keys " then "Right click on Passwords --> Passwords: Login "  -- Anyone know how to load this by CLI?
[15:05] <greg3000> dyd: can you get to your system monitor?
[15:05] <dyd> what was the link for the page with the paste box?
[15:05] <Stanley00> dyd: run xkill, and click on gimp
[15:05] <ryannathans> ehh, so I install ubuntu 11.04 64bit in a VM because it hates me so badly
[15:05] <tzhuang> hello ubuntu'hello ubuntu'ers
[15:05] <jeroth> In 11.04 what is the current recommended windows media player plugin alternative for firefox?
[15:05] <ryannathans> I get forcer to use classic gnome...
[15:05] <Lithos84> dyd: sudo killall gimp-2.6
[15:05] <greg3000> anyone know what I should do about my question?
[15:05] <tzhuang> is there anything i can do to get ready for the upcoming 11.10 release?
[15:05] <dyd> it's not working
[15:05] <dyd> wait
[15:05] <M-n-M> how many hours do i have to wait to get my hands in the Ocelot? :D
[15:05] <ryannathans> tzhuang: reformat
[15:06] <tzhuang> ryannathans: wait really? = =
[15:06] <dyd> Lithos84: thank you, it worked
[15:06] <jrib> greg3000: that's probably seahorse
[15:06] <Lithos84> dyd: You're welcome.
[15:06] <greg3000> jrib: thanks for the suggestion :)
[15:06] <tzhuang> first time going thru a distribution upgrade
[15:07] <tzhuang> would it be better to reinstall the OS
[15:07] <tzhuang> or just upgrade from natty
[15:07] <LjL> tzhuang: unless you encounter problems upgrading, i don't see why you would reinstall
[15:07] <auronandace> tzhuang: it would be better to reinstall afresh (especially since 11.10 gets rid of gnome2 for gnome3)
[15:08] <M-n-M> tzhuang: yea, reinstalling is the ultimate option
[15:08] <LjL> whatever i guess
[15:08] <tzhuang> source amnesia, but yea i have heard that reinstalling was better
[15:08] <tzhuang> anyone care to spare the details if it's not too technical
[15:08] <auronandace> LjL: i'm expecting an influx of upgrade problems in this channel
[15:09] <jas>  
[15:09] <jas>  
[15:09] <jas>  
[15:09] <FloodBot1> jas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <M-n-M> what's happening?
[15:10]  * LjL rolls eyes
[15:10] <greg3000> fellas I'm running openbox but needing to enable the keyring on startup so the system can remember the wireless password.. can I ask for any suggestions?
[15:10] <wellington> 32581591
[15:11] <auronandace> wellington: if that is a password, i'd change it if i were you
[15:11] <fritsch> auronandace: it was a joke :-)
[15:11] <greg3000> i'm running 11.04 natty just using openbox
[15:11] <ryannathans> so i install 11.04
[15:11] <ryannathans> what's this horrid ui?
[15:12] <g0rs> is anybody using compiz here? animations aren't working, can you suggest what's wrong?
[15:12] <phlak_user> g0rs: are they turned off, maybe?
[15:13] <g0rs> phlak_user: they are turned on , along with other effects such as wobble . do i have to disable all other effects inorder for animations to work?
[15:13] <phlak_user> g0rs: nope
[15:13] <phlak_user> g0rs: are you using ccsm to tweak compiz?
[15:13] <auronandace> !unity | ryannathans
[15:14] <g0rs> phlak_user: i have compiz manager and a blue launchpad with which i configure its settings.
[15:14] <phlak_user> g0rs: ok
[15:15] <greg3000> anyone advise against trying this in 11.04? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136   I'm trying to setup wlan /w wpa inside /etc/network/interfaces
[15:15] <g0rs> phlak_user: is there any way to enable them ?
[15:15] <phlak_user> g0rs: i am not aware of any way other than ccsm sorry
[15:16] <greywalk>  hi. how do i create a password protected archive with ark?
[15:16] <ryannathans> eth0 is connected in ifconfig, nothing is working in network manager
[15:16] <ryannathans> how can i get network manager to use eth0
[15:16] <auronandace> ryannathans: if it is wired it should do so automatically
[15:16] <greg3000> or how could I access gui keyring options from openbox?
[15:17] <Bash> I know this is not exactly ubuntu specific, but my hard drive is failing and making 3 short and increasingly pitched beeps, I can't find what it may mean. (award bios)
[15:17] <ryannathans> auronandace: apparently not, there's absolutely nothing in network manager
[15:17] <Bash> Tried googling for a beep codes manual but can't find anything concerning hard drives.
[15:17] <Znuff> Bash, there aren't any
[15:17] <greywalk>  hi. how do i create a password protected archive with ark?
[15:18] <auronandace> ryannathans: problems seem to be attracted to you
[15:19] <ryannathans> auronandace: they do
[15:19] <jrib> Bash: ##hardware
[15:19] <ryannathans> auronandace: network IS working in background, eth0 is connected, I installed over PXE, network manager is retarded and doesn't use eth0
[15:20] <auronandace> ryannathans: i've never used pxe
[15:20] <ryannathans> ERROR:root:Could not find def gateway info in /proc
[15:20] <auronandace> ryannathans: still couldn't get the raid to workl?
[15:20] <ryannathans> ERROR:root:Could not find default gateway by running route
[15:20] <ryannathans> auronandace: nop
[15:21] <greg3000> how to check if gnome-keyring is running?
[15:21] <ryannathans> auronandace: i have resorted to VM again -.-
[15:22] <auronandace> ryannathans: got to admire your patience, you've been trying for a week
[15:23] <ryannathans> auronandace: hehe ;) I need it for work
[15:23] <Guest49012> oops, i forgot how to register a user name in freenode
[15:23] <kolinab> Hey thanks a lot for the suggestion on how to add an app to the dash . . . I got it working. First time I've come to IRC with a problem. Appreciate the help!
[15:24] <MrElendig> Guest49012: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[15:25] <Guest49012> MrElendig: thanks :)
[15:25] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: I get this error : Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[15:25] <Gale0n> I downloaded the ATI drivers
[15:26] <MrElendig> Gale0n: use the package system instead
[15:26] <puff> Hm, the pandora browser-based client kinda sucks (keeps getting stuck and then eventually asking me to reload the page).   Is there a way to listen to it with rhythmbox or some other client?  Or are there better services?
[15:26] <Gale0n> It doesn't work
[15:26] <MrElendig> Gale0n: and note that catalyst 11.9 is more or less totally broken
[15:26] <MrElendig> Gale0n: what card do you have?
[15:26] <bhush> Hello guys does the problem of blank screen after booting is solved in 11.10???
[15:26] <Pici> bhush : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[15:26] <Gale0n> ATI Radeon X1950 Pro
[15:26] <Guest49012> MrElendig: my Guest49012 means the nickname i picked up is used by others?
[15:27] <MrElendig> Gale0n: with that card I would use the free drivers instead
[15:27] <bhush> Pici : Thanks
[15:27] <Gale0n> I did.
[15:27] <MrElendig> Guest49012: probably
[15:27] <ryannathans> if this ever ends up working, i'll move to xfce4
[15:27] <Gale0n> I got it from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[15:27] <MrElendig> Guest49012: /quote ns info thenick
[15:27] <MrElendig> Guest49012: if it's a long time since it was used, you can ask #freenode to have it dropped
[15:27] <auronandace> ryannathans: good choice, i use xfce (never liked gnome (both 2 and 3))
[15:28] <Guest49012> MrElendig: thanks for your help
[15:29] <Guest49012> MrElendig: seems someone have used this nick
[15:30] <Gale0n> Guest45290: Or you use a protected nick.
[15:31] <Gale0n> How do I access my internal 80-gig slave ?
[15:31] <Gale0n> From Unity
[15:31] <hroi> I would like to share a folder so that it can be accessed through the /net/mymachine  mechanism
[15:31] <hroi> there is a firewall so that intranet machines cannot be accessed from the outside
[15:32] <ryannathans> auronandace: hitech.selfip.org/submission.xml.html
[15:34] <bhush> Does anyone have ATI card and ubuntu 11.04 and blank screen problem???
[15:34] <Gale0n> bhush: me
[15:34] <maizuddin35> i have ATI card
[15:35] <auronandace> ryannathans: that is a lot of info
[15:35] <maizuddin35> but there is no problem yet like that..
[15:35] <c1t0s1d> Hello everyone there
[15:35] <Marcus__> Hi, Some releases ago ubuntu released the final ISO a few days before the actual release date. So im wondering if the image on the daily build from a few hours ago will be okay to install right away
[15:35] <bhush> Gale0n : How do u solve it...???
[15:36] <Gale0n> I didn't
[15:36] <maizuddin35> nope..
[15:36] <bhush> So
[15:36] <bhush> ?
[15:36] <Lithos84> c1t0s1d: Hello.
[15:36] <Gale0n> I took my card and smashed it, then bought this one, and I have another problem, but no blank screen
[15:37] <c1t0s1d> I have a bug with tomboy, I can not synchronize with my ubuntu one accout... anybody has the same issue?
[15:37] <maizuddin35> download the latest driver?
[15:37] <c1t0s1d> Hi lithos84
[15:37] <bhush> :D
[15:37] <maizuddin35> tomboy...
[15:38] <Tundmatu> I installed a driver which makes ubuntu crash at startup. Is there any way i can remove it?
[15:38] <Gale0n> GirlyGirl: This is outdated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[15:38] <Gale0n> Only up to 9.04
[15:38] <libscout_> when setting up an unprivileged user for vsftpd, what does the daemon need access to and not?
[15:39] <maizuddin35> remove it at /usr/share/ati...
[15:39] <Gale0n> ?
[15:40] <maizuddin35> ok
[15:40] <maizuddin35> you see a black screen ...
[15:40] <ryannathans> auronandace: it is.
[15:41] <maizuddin35> you reboot, into recovery mode.
[15:41] <maizuddin35> go to low graphic
[15:41] <ryannathans> auronandace: can you help?
[15:41] <maizuddin35> then enter this : sudo aticonfig --initial
[15:41] <puff> If anybody's curious about the pandora/ubuntu question, I found a (so far) nice gnome client, Pithos.
[15:42] <maizuddin35> if you see nothing again on the reboot , go back into low graphics mode to uninstall the driver
[15:42] <c1t0s1d> someone that can help me? The bug is that the "Save" button is disabled, even if I already authorize the computer... I'm using ubuntu 11.10 updated
[15:42] <auronandace> ryannathans: just looking through it i notice the e1000 driver is loaded but the "internet test" fails (although the "network test" passes)
[15:42] <martian> Does anyone know of any sort of mail server that runs as a user-space application? Something that doesn't run as a daemon but instead is launched on demand.
[15:42] <Pici> c1t0s1d : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[15:42] <auronandace> ryannathans: no idea why that is
[15:42] <c1t0s1d> Pici: thanks
[15:43] <libscout_> martian: read or write email or both?
[15:43] <Tundmatu> maizuddin35: How do you enter recovery mode?
[15:43] <martian> libscout_: Just looking for something to use as a junk email when registering for junk online, ya know :)
[15:43] <auronandace> ryannathans: any reason why you had to install withing virtualbox via pxe? why not a normal vbox install?
[15:43] <somsip> martian: sendemail http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail
[15:44] <ryannathans> auronandace: cam
[15:44] <ryannathans> auronandace: can't be bothered finding disc
[15:44] <libscout_> martian: i feel that... why not make your life easy and make a gmail account?
[15:44] <ryannathans> auronandace: i'll try normal
[15:44] <martian> somsip: I'm looking to receive email
[15:44] <auronandace> ryannathans: sorry, not following you, you must have had the disk to install via pxe
[15:45] <martian> libscout_: because then I have to log out of my actual gmail account ;)
[15:45] <somsip> martian: ah - wrong idea here then :)
[15:45] <ryannathans> auronandace:  extracted disc to nfs and it can boot off that
[15:45] <auronandace> ryannathans: with virtualbox you only need the iso file (just mount it in the vbox cd)
[15:46] <ryannathans> auronandace: I know, i'm trying to find it
[15:46] <libscout_> martian: so annoying right? i have Google apps handle my domain specific email and my gmail account and it gets frustrating switching between the too... i've actually thought about switching one account to another email webclient like yahoo or ::GASP:: hotmail
[15:46] <martian> libscout_, somsip: I'll just install a regular mail server I suppose. I just remember using some windoze app I used once that was basically a stripped down email client with a server built in, so you could register for junk as blahblah@my.ip.address
[15:47] <epaphus> hello. Is there anyway I can list only the IPs bound to the machine without going through ifconfig info?
[15:48] <gaby> hi - is there any possibility to upgrade my ubuntu 10,10 to ubuntu studio without installing from DVD ?
[15:48] <BigMao> Hi there, I'm ssh-ing into my workstation and running emacs in a window.  I'm etting errors such as "GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server" and "GLib-WARNING **: In call to g_spawn_sync(), exit status of a child process was requested but SIGCHLD action was set to SIG_IGN" and things like that.. can someone tell me what's going on?
[15:48] <Lithos84> gaby: Yes, install ubuntu-studio
[15:48] <Suhel> hiya all
[15:49] <gaby> Lithos84 : how to install it
[15:49] <Lithos84> gaby: sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop
[15:50] <Pici> BigMao: Is it launching your application or not?
[15:50] <BigMao> Pici, it is launching my application but after a delay.
[15:50] <Pici> BigMao: So ignore the warnings.
[15:51] <gaby> Lithos84  : thanks
[15:51] <BigMao> Pici, what is the probability that the errors are causing the application to load more slowly?
[15:51] <Lithos84> gaby: You're welcome.
[15:51] <Pici> BigMao: Low. If you're running this through a forwarded X session, then that is more likely to cause what seem to be speed issues.
[15:52] <BigMao> Pici, when I run another program like "meld" everything happens very fast and I don't get the error.  Also, my workstation is just in the other room, it's a fast connection. :)
[15:53] <ryannathans> auronandace: i might jus download xubuntu
[15:53] <auronandace> ryannathans: thats what i use (and archlinux too)
[15:54] <gaby> Lithos84 : seems like done - shall i restart my system to  get effect - or ?
[15:54] <auronandace> ryannathans: if you hold off till tommorow you could get the stable release of 11.10
[15:55] <Patriot> Hello everybody
[15:55] <Lithos84> gaby: Logout, choose Ubuntu Studio session and login.
[15:55] <zanberdo> I have an ubuntu server with a time problem. For some reason the date reports in UTC even though I've set the tzdata to PDT. I know the hardware clock is set to UTC, but for some reason the device does not accept that it's PDT. Any suggestions for what I should be looking at?
[15:57] <Lithos84> Patriot: Hello.
[15:57] <Patriot> Hello Lithos84
[15:57] <Patriot> I am in desperate need of help, and if this is not the right chat can you please advise me which channel to go to
[15:58] <Gale0n> Patriot: What help ?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> !ask | Patriot
[15:58] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to log someone out remotely?  I left myself logged in at home, and I want to run an app from where I am.  I could just shut thunderbird down and then fire it up over ssh, but it made me wonder how to give myself the boot if I wanted to.
[15:58] <Patriot> Cool will do
[15:59] <jrib> craigbass1976: you can kill the user's processes
[16:00] <craigbass1976> jrib, what about just killing their login?  It would also be a fun trick to play on my wife...
[16:00] <jrib> craigbass1976: sure
[16:00] <craigbass1976> I used to pop up xmessage or something; I haven't done it in a while (since the gun cabinet got put in a more accessible place)
[16:00] <Patriot> I have installed Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, I am setting up the server for domain logons, everything is going 100%, until i want to add a Windows 7 machine, when i restart then the windows 7 machine says can't find the domain, i ave applied the registry settings etc but no luck at all
[16:00] <jrib> heh
[16:00] <ryannathans> auronandace: i'm getting my ISP to mirror xubuntu also in their FTP
[16:01] <Patriot> I have also re-installed Ubuntu server
[16:01] <auronandace> ryannathans: awesome, maybe you could make the ops aware of that
[16:02] <Gale0n> Patriot: domain logons ?
[16:02] <zagibu> Patriot: just either use linux desktops or buy a windows server...I know, you didn't want to hear that
[16:02] <Gale0n> zagibu: No need to buy
[16:02] <Gale0n> :P
[16:03] <Patriot> Gale0n yeah where the windows machine logs onto the Ubuntu server
[16:03] <Patriot> Nah not going to do that
[16:03] <Gale0n> Patriot:  hmm
[16:03] <Gale0n> like, in Enterprise ?
[16:03] <Chatlook-73889> hi
[16:03] <Gale0n> OK wait, I'll try and help, only in query
[16:03] <compdoc> linux and windows domains seems like too much works
[16:04] <Patriot> Gale0n It is windows 7 pro
[16:04] <compdoc> work
[16:04] <Aric> What is the best Active Directory alternative for an Ubuntu Server I want to run at home and have 4-5 laptops connected, roaming profiles and syncing of home directories for laptops that leave the network and return is a must and the main purpose
[16:04] <gaby> lithos84: is there a room for ubuntu studio here ?
[16:04] <linuxlainen> Hi all
[16:04] <Aric> I'm looking around on Google but I have zero experience with any of them so looking for recs
[16:04] <linuxlainen> any idea when is 11.10 going to be released?
[16:04] <zagibu> Aric: ldap?
[16:04] <Aric> linuxlainen: tomorrow
[16:04] <Krenair> linuxlainen, tomorrow
[16:04] <Gale0n> linuxlainen: tomorrow
[16:04] <Gale0n> olol
[16:04] <auronandace> linuxlainen: 13th
[16:04] <linuxlainen> :D
[16:05] <Gale0n> i was too slow :(
[16:05] <ejv> you guys must lag something fierce
[16:05] <linuxlainen> is that confirmed date?
[16:05] <Aric> linuxlainen: yes
[16:05] <linuxlainen> perfect
[16:05] <linuxlainen> thank you
[16:05] <Aric> zagibu: yes
[16:05] <gaby> some body guide me for ubuntu studio room please ?
[16:05] <ejv> you know you could have easily googled: "ubuntu release schedule"
[16:05]  * ejv facepalms
[16:05] <auronandace> linuxlainen: you should check the topic when you join the channel
[16:06] <linuxlainen> ejv: I did but it was listed as best guess only
[16:06] <bittyx-laptop> hiya, i have a question about hard links vs. soft links. say i need to have a movie available for download on my website. is it a good idea then to have the movie stored in, say, ~/films/some_film_name.avi and create a link to that with ~/public_html/download/film/the-name-i-want-the-user-to-see.avi ? i'm also guessing that a hard link makes more sense, so that i wouldn't have to change all the links if the location of the source file changes?
[16:06] <linuxlainen> Ubuntu official page doesn't list the date either
[16:06] <bittyx-laptop> sorry if the question doesn't seem to belong here - i'm not actually asking for web-dev help, but rather, for a suggestion whether to use a soft link or a hard link for this purpose
[16:06] <gaby> i want to go for ubuntu-studio room - any body can help ?
[16:07] <ejv> no, it clearly says it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot and here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[16:07] <vafied> hello
[16:07] <linuxlainen> auronandace: the topic is something I missed :P
[16:07] <ryannathans> auronandace: oh wow... 98% rebuilding and restoring raid array while doing everything else. *windows randomly shuts down -updates* imad.
[16:07] <koa> hello guys i need help with my overheating laptop i need to control the fans speed how to ?
[16:07] <auronandace> linuxlainen: you can see it anytime by typing: /topic
[16:08] <ejv> kao: acpi
[16:08] <ryannathans> nwindow 3
[16:08] <Lithos84> gaby: #ubuntustudio
[16:08] <vafied> hey guys any of you uses a dock laptop
[16:09] <auronandace> ryannathans: i'm glad i rarely use windows (and when i do i set it so that i manually check for updates and it requires confirmation to restart)
[16:09] <ryannathans> auronandace: mine requires manual confirmation, except i was typing and it auto accepted...
[16:09] <koa> after i install acpi i run it it give me this $ sudo acpi
[16:09] <koa> Battery 0: Unknown, 100%
[16:10] <prad_> hi
[16:10]  * ryannathans starts the 16 hour auto restore again...
[16:10] <auronandace> ryannathans: ah yes, that is irritating
[16:10] <yacc> Can anyone please explain why partimage is 32bit only in Lucid? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=partimage
[16:10] <prad_> i'm a total newbie...i have been using using windows all these days...is ubuntu the right way to start off with linux?
[16:11] <ejv> koa: im guessing you'll need a combination of acpi hooks, lm-sensors, and fancontrol, although any customization of that stuff is probably outside the realm of support this channel provides
[16:11] <Lithos84> prad_: Yes, it is.
[16:11] <ryannathans> prad_: ubuntu or linux mint
[16:11] <Gale0n> prad_: Go for kubuntu
[16:11] <zagibu> Aric: not sure how you can get the home dir sync working
[16:11] <auronandace> prad_: try it in a vm (virtualbox)
[16:11] <ejv> prad_: no, use gentoo
[16:11] <Aric> prad_: Ubuntu is the most popular distro but you may find Linux Mint more familiar to WIndows with the placement of buttons and options
[16:11] <Gale0n> Kubuntu is the best, for new Linux users
[16:12] <prad_> thanks people :)
[16:12] <Aric> prad_: I would say Ubuntu is more like Mac OS, Mint more like Windows (not really but that's my best comparison for converts)
[16:12] <Gale0n> Mac sux
[16:12] <koa> allright thanx <ejv>
[16:12] <Aric> prad_: per Gale0n Kubuntu would work for a Windows convert as well
[16:12] <prad_> so kubuntu/livemint/vm right?
[16:12] <ryannathans> my first linux... nogui
[16:12] <ejv> ubuntu doesn't teach newcomers anything about the OS, the gentoo install does... you guys are all deluded lol
[16:12] <ndrj> It all depends on where the X for closing Windows is.
[16:12] <Gale0n> Kubuntu FTW
[16:12] <ndrj> :D
[16:12] <Gale0n> <33
[16:12] <Mike9863> When my computer resumes from sleeping, it takes quite a while for the network manager to start looking for wifis and connecting to my own. Is there a way to make it work right as I resume?
[16:12] <prad_> gentoo?
[16:12] <ryannathans> prad_: ubuntu or linux mint vm
[16:13] <Aric> prad_: don't use gentoo if you're new to Linux, please
[16:13] <Gale0n> ryannathans: Not Ubuntu, KUbuntu
[16:13] <prad_> which one is the closest to windows?
[16:13] <Gale0n> And yes, as Aric said, not Gentoo
[16:13] <Aric> prad_: Linux Mint imo
[16:13] <Ben64> if you use mint, you can't get support here
[16:13] <ryannathans> Gale0n: kde? why?
[16:13] <Ben64> so ubuntu wins :D
[16:13] <Gale0n> prad_: Mint or KUbuntu
[16:13] <BluesKaj> BBL... more yard work :P
[16:13] <gauravd> is ubuntu the best linux distro?
[16:13] <libscout_> i want to allow vsftpd user to create a file in a directory not owned by the daemon user... whats the permissions for this?
[16:13] <prad_> thanks :)
[16:13] <Ben64> !best | gauravd
[16:13] <Gale0n> np
[16:14] <ejv> the ubuntu installer is a magical wizard of noviceness, he said he wanted to *learn*
[16:14] <Aric> gauravd: it's OPINION but it is the most popular by downloads and community size etc
[16:14] <prad_> just download and install stuff?(linux mint)
[16:14] <gauravd> ok thanks ubottu
[16:14] <Gale0n> prad_: Yes
[16:14] <fede> hi everyone, i just installed gnome 3.2 on ubuntu 11.10 beta2. it works straight fine, but everytime i log off or i restart, it logs me back into unity. how could I force it to log me into gnome 3.2? I tried to remove the unity package but it still logs me into.. a big nautilus window.
[16:14] <prad_> thanks
[16:14] <Ben64> applications come from package manager mostly on ubuntu and mint
[16:14] <Gale0n> prad_: If you don't like it, use KUbuntu
[16:14] <Lithos84> !11.10 | fede
[16:15] <ejv> "give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, feed him for life"
[16:15] <Aric> prad_: I've usually suggested Mint to all my Windows lovers, and none have complained or wanted to even return to windows afterwards.. Mint is based on Ubuntu but it is it's own in terms of support and such
[16:15] <prad_> @Galeon sure
[16:15] <Gale0n> fede: Easy
 sure will give it a try
[16:16] <fede> Gale0n: sorry.. i'm quite a n00b =)
[16:16] <Gale0n> When logging in, at the bottom (before you put in your password), at the bottom, there should be a bar
[16:16] <Gale0n> In that bar is a drop-down menu, with "Ubuntu" inside it
[16:16] <Gale0n> Click that, and choose Gnome
[16:17] <fede> Gale0n: thnx a lot, i'll try now
[16:17] <Gale0n> np
[16:17] <Aric> prad_: I would still suggest YOU try both, Linux Mint and Kubuntu ... and maybe even try plain old Ubuntu to see if you enjoy that... Linux can run easily in 512mb VM's and is free and easy to install a VM from a downloaded ISO so :)
[16:17] <zsekomp14> hal ghalo
[16:17] <zsekomp14> halo halo
[16:17] <zsekomp14> goodmorning
[16:18] <Aric> prad_: You will notice Mint's support is much more...lacking... see: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=152 and pm me for anything else on this since I fear we're going too far off topic and cluttering the room but i have used many of them and can talk more if you wish
[16:18] <Abhijit> hi zsekomp14 do you have a ubuntu question?
[16:18] <zsekomp14> no, im only tryin a ubunto on lesson
[16:19] <ToeKutter> Anyone proficient in the "DD" command? - I want to copy SDA1 to SDC in an image file form.
[16:20] <ToeKutter> I dont want to lose my existing data on sdc
[16:20] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  theres dozens of dd tutoruials out there.. you would put sda to sdc.. or sda1 to sdc1  normally.
[16:20] <ToeKutter> i've seen direct copys, but nothing using image file
[16:20] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  if you want to put sda1 in am image file.. you just use of=/path/to/whatever.image
[16:20] <ToeKutter> yes, but that only makes an image file of your current sda
[16:21] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  Thats what i saw you ask....
[16:21] <ToeKutter> and if you dont have the space on SDA
[16:21] <Dracosoft> if you want to save your data, make a new partition and write to that
[16:21] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  you dont do sda image to sda.. you put it on whever you mounted sdc at
[16:22] <dr_willis> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/mountpointofsdc1 bs=2048
[16:22] <ToeKutter> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=~/disk2.img  --this only makes an image on sda1
[16:22] <zagibu> so?
[16:22] <fede> Gale0n: just tried.. but i can't see any bar on the bottom.. there's just the bar on the top with the computer's name on the left, then the speenwheel-like selector on the left side of the screen..
[16:22] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:   so why are you uysing that path then?
[16:22] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  and you dont really want to image sda1 IF its in use.
[16:22] <zagibu> why would you output to ~/disk2.img?
[16:23] <Gale0n> fede, there's no bar on top
[16:23] <ToeKutter> disk2.img is just a nme
[16:23] <dr_willis> This is when it would be a good idea to read up on some bash and linux basics befor messing with dd.
[16:23] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  and ~/ IS a path
[16:23] <zagibu> storing an image of itself is kind of impossible for any kind of disk
[16:23] <zagibu> (if it's not compressed)
[16:23] <ToeKutter> of=/media/mountpointofsdc1 bs=2048 --- so of = /dev/sdc/file1.img then Willis?
[16:24] <zagibu> no
[16:24] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  i said several times the MOUNTPOINT of sdc....
[16:24] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  mountpoint of sdc1 to me specific.
[16:24] <fede> Gale0n: it lookes like this http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/screen-shot-2011-10-06-at-18.06.57-copy.jpg
[16:24] <ToeKutter> what?  /dev/sdc1 is the mountpoint ?
[16:25] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  NO it is NOT the mountpoint.
[16:25] <dr_willis> thats the DEVICE name.
[16:25] <vafied> i have a dell with a dock port is there a way to configure the docking and undocking process ?
[16:25] <dr_willis> !mount | ToeKutter
[16:26] <DaniG2k> hey guys what's a good tool to develop in php with ubuntu?
[16:26] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  you should boot a live cd. Mount sdc1 to some location like /media/sdc1  then image sda1 to  the /media/sdc1
[16:26] <DaniG2k> a good development environment?
[16:26] <ToeKutter> u only need to mount something if its not mounted already. - the distor sees the drive
[16:26] <Gale0n> hmm
[16:26] <vafied> DaniG2k: aptana studio
[16:26] <DaniG2k> that isn't just gedit
[16:26] <DaniG2k> thanks :)
[16:26] <Gale0n> Daniel0108: Notepad++
[16:26] <Gale0n> From Sourceforge
[16:26] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:   if you want to make an Image in a file.. you dont do an of=/dev/XXX    that would be to the device not an image
[16:26] <zagibu> Aptana is based on the eclipse platform, just fyi
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Daniel0108: gedit
[16:27] <dr_willis> ToeKutter:  and you dont want to image sda1 if its monunted. or at least its not a good idea.
[16:27] <Gale0n> fede: You use gnome-shell ?
[16:27] <Daniel0108> ActionParsnip: wrong nick :)
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[16:27] <fede> Gale0n: yes, i just installed it from the package manager
[16:28] <ToeKutter> Ok thank you willis. I am booted using a live cd
[16:28] <Bilz> hello. i have some files in a partition on my drive, and some of them seem to have disappeared in nautilus. going through terminal to the folder and running ls, I get messages like "ls: cannot access academic1110.odt: Input/output error"
[16:28] <Bilz> any ideas?
[16:28] <McQueen> hi, how can i look the detail of a domain name ( ns, ip ) by terminal?
[16:28] <zagibu> dying disk?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Bilz: is the partition healthy?
[16:28] <zagibu> it happens, you know
[16:28] <dr_willis> BlInK311:  hard drive or fs has errors.. you may want to try fscking the disk. or imageing it to some other location befor trying to fsck it.. and try to fsck the image.
[16:28] <Gale0n> fede, give me a min
[16:28] <Abhijit> McQueen, nmap?
[16:29] <Bilz> ActionParsnip, I hope so? Other files are opening fine, its just a few that aren't showing up
[16:29] <Gale0n> fede: Press ALT+F2
[16:29] <McQueen> Abhijit, its a tool... i am looking for a terminal command
[16:29] <fede> Gale0n: it's very kind from you
[16:29] <fede> ok
[16:29] <emorris> is it right that I should be having to manually modprobe b44 and b43 to get both my network cards working (b44 for wired, b43 for wireless)?
[16:29] <Gale0n> And type "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell"
[16:29] <Gale0n> fede, np
[16:29] <emorris> woops, wrong channel
[16:29] <joops> Anyone using an open source machine databe/tracking system?
[16:29] <Gale0n> I'm just making sure it works
[16:29] <McQueen> Abhijit, like net lookup
[16:30] <joops> database that is.
[16:30] <Abhijit> McQueen, no idea then.
[16:30] <McQueen> Abhijit, thank you
[16:30] <fede> Gale0n: u mean alt+f2 in the login session?
[16:30] <Gale0n> No
[16:30] <Gale0n> When logged in
[16:31] <Gale0n> Sorry for mis-direction
[16:31] <fede> oh sorry, didn't see the second message (:
[16:31] <cypha> I'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?
[16:31] <Gale0n> Np
[16:31] <smith> Hello I was wondering if anyone could show me how to mount a windows partion in ubuntu?
[16:31] <dork> joops: tracking system?
[16:31] <joops> yeah
[16:32] <Abhijit> smith, go to places menu and click on the name of the partition
[16:32] <dork> what do you mean by that
[16:32] <Phrogz> I have a tablet running Ubuntu (9.04), not Android. I want to be able to SSH into it from my host computer (ideally Windows, could be Ubuntu also). Kicker: only connection is USB from host to tablet. Possible?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Bilz: boot to live CD and you can test it there
[16:32] <Krenair> Places -> drive label
[16:32] <dork> as far as open source databases we use mysql primarily
[16:32] <joops> something that can track mac addresses, hardware state, any info we need on servers in our clusters.
[16:32] <emorris> smith, if you go to places>connect to server, then there is an option for windows shares there
[16:32] <smith> Abhijit:  that didn't work I used the WuInstaller thingy for ubuntu
[16:32] <dork> joops: like a monitoring/network identity system?
[16:32] <joops> We can certainly write one but checking to see if something is out there.
[16:32] <smith> I can see the partion only via the partion tool in ubuntu
[16:32] <emorris> smith, oh sorry, misread. I should stop using IRC when tired...
[16:33] <KanocX> hey, how can I choose the gnome shell as standard-desktop with autologin in 11.10?
[16:33] <Krenair> smith, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:33] <joops> We are currently using centreon/nagios and are considering adding columns or tables for additional host data.
[16:33] <Abhijit> smith, what is that. generally you dont need to do anything manually to be able to mount windows partition just click on it
[16:33] <fede> Gale0n: it says the package is updated.. i already tried a purge-reinstall and a reconfigure gnome-shell before
[16:33] <smith> Yea the thing called "File system" won't let me see the windows files
[16:33] <joops> Or creating something completely seperate or using some open source tracking system.
[16:33] <smith> just the ubuntu stuff
[16:33] <Lithos84> !11.10 | KanocX
[16:33] <Bilz> ActionParsnip, bah, I dont have a livecd with me now :( this kinda sucks
[16:34] <compdoc> KanocX, last time I tried 11.10, there was no other choices
[16:34] <dork> joops: ah ok, i typically use nagios and centreon, sometimes throw cacti into it
[16:34] <Gale0n> fede: Remove, re-install
[16:34] <Krenair> smith, yeah, that's because you haven't mounted it yet :)
[16:34] <Gale0n> apt-get remove gnome-shell; apt-get install gnome-shell
[16:34] <smith> Krenair:  will follow that tutorial you sent thanks
[16:34] <smith> I'll let you know how it goes
[16:34] <joops> dork: what are you using cacti for?
[16:34] <zagibu> i'm not sure what happens with wubi, though, because last time I checked it installed into a file on the windows partition
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> fede: gnome-shell isn't supported here
[16:34] <Polah> smith: Have you mounted your Windows partition?
[16:34] <dork> joops: there might be some sort of arp monitoring plugin for nagios already but writing one up would be relatively simple as well
[16:35] <smith> Polah:  I instaleld with that wubi thing
[16:35] <xaka> has anybody tried to use wu-ftpd? "upload" option doesn't work for me, it doesn't change user/group when i upload files (always owned by uploader which is not what i want)
[16:35] <smith> and while in ubuntu It won't allow me to access the windows stuff
[16:35] <dork> joops: we use cacti for monitoring mysql databases, in particular innodb storage engine stats, as well as all of our servers/nodes with snmp agents
[16:36] <joops> Got it.
[16:36] <Polah> smith: If you plan to be using Ubuntu frequently, it's recommended to do a proper standalone install. WUBI is primarily for trying out the system with a slightly less temporary solution than a live session
[16:36] <fede> ActionParsnip: i know.. but the problem seems to be the ubuntu session manager not recognizing my choice, gnome seems to be working fine
[16:36] <dork> joops: i would be surprised if there were no layer 2 discovery plugins for cacti though
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> fede: yes but its gnome3, isn't it?
[16:36] <crazyfork> i can't find any items under IDEs ..Ubuntu Software Center. Could someone help me pls ?
[16:37] <smith> Polah:  man hehe I was liking wubi and ubuntu hehe I'll just uninstall looks cool but will wait for future releases where the filesystems stuff isn't a problem
[16:37] <zagibu> smith: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=914358
[16:37] <zagibu> it's on /host in Wubi
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> fede: to get that, you either are running Oneiric which is offtopic here and supported in #ubuntu+1   or you used the Gnome3 PPA to install it on Natty which is also not supported here and is supported in #gnome
[16:37] <dr_willis> !ide
[16:38] <Polah> smith: The filesystems are not a problem generally unless something is wrong. I don't know about WUBI mounting the host filesystem, but something could have gone wrong with your install, or you're using the incorrect options when attempts to mount
[16:38] <fede> ActionParsnip: oh sorry.. just logged on the room xchat pushed me
[16:38] <dr_willis> I would run away from wubi whenever possible... :)
[16:38] <dr_willis> if you need to test out ubuntu safely in windows. Id run it in virtualbox. :)
[16:38] <smith> Well you guys are a whole lot more helpful than windows support lol I've been here less than 5mins and I've gotten more than 4 soultions to my problem.
[16:39] <smith> Going to readup on the links you guys sent
[16:39] <gridbag> Is there an easy way to make Caps Lock a dead key?
[16:39] <smith> Thanks and keep up the good support ;P
[16:39] <zagibu> smith: can't you quickly check /host?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> gridbag: pull off the key is one way :)
[16:39] <susundberg> Hey any idea why http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/imagej -- depends on openjdk ? I have sun java installed and i would prefer not to install open jdk
[16:39] <arkanabar> anyone know how I might recover my lost MBR, when my disk has been overwritten with LVM?
[16:40] <Polah> gridbag: If you go to your keyboard settings on GNOME (probably Unity too), then Layouts tab then Options, there's various setting in there to specify dead keys and other key settings
[16:40] <susundberg> arkanabar: you need to re-write the proper mbr
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> gridbag: you could use xmodmap to map the key to nothing
[16:40] <agon42> hello
[16:40] <susundberg> (And as an answear to my question, its solved on 11.11 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagej/+changelog )
[16:41] <Polah> arkanabar: You can reinstall GRUB to your MBR to boot with, but if your partition table has been overwritten and you didn't back it up before through something like dd, then it is irretrievable.
[16:42] <gridbag> Polah, Is that in the Control Center? Im running default window mgr on Ubuntu.
[16:43] <Polah> gridbag: Just search for "Keyboard" on Unity. Or Preferences > Keyboard in GNOME
[16:43] <noobubuntu> somebody pls help!
[16:43] <drahst> alright... ubuntu's making me nuts... interfaces file is set right and it still says that the device is not configured... yet ifconfig has no problems
[16:43] <Polah> !ask | noobubuntu
[16:43] <WsAgent> can anybody help me out to integrate windows active directory in squid proxy server running in ubuntu
[16:43] <Guest17152> salve
[16:43] <noobubuntu> i dont see items under Web development sections
[16:43] <gridbag> Oh, i see. There is the "Keyboard Layout Options" dialog with a "disable caps lock" in the Options...
[16:43] <noobubuntu> and even under IDEs
[16:43] <Polah> drahst: Pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please
[16:44] <Polah> gridbag: That could work too
[16:44] <gridbag> Yes, this is great. im typinjg this in all caps, yelling at you all.
[16:44] <Polah> noobubuntu: In the Software Centre? Have you run apt-get update?
[16:44] <noobubuntu> yes I have
[16:44] <Polah> gridbag: That's just rude ):
[16:44] <Polah> noobubuntu: Do you get any errors?
[16:44] <noobubuntu> no
[16:45] <agon42> what tools do you miss noobubuntu
[16:45] <gridbag> I need to write this down.
[16:45] <noobubuntu> everythings okay except those item listings
[16:45] <Polah> noobubuntu: Try having a look in Synaptic rather than Software Centre
[16:45] <bastidrazor> Islam: /usr/bin/pidgin  is the normal path for pidgintools do you miss noobubuntu
[16:45] <bastidrazor> 12:45 < gridbag> I need to write this down.
[16:45] <bastidrazor> 12:45 < noobubuntu> everythings okay except those item listings
[16:45] <noobubuntu> yeah i did ..  but just wan to know whats wrong with my sofware center ?
[16:46] <Polah> noobubuntu: Try running this and pastebinning the output: sudo apt-get -s install bluefish
[16:47] <gridbag> bastidrazor : what are you trying to tell me?
[16:49] <arkanabar> I went and burned myself a copy of RIP Linux; TestDisk is locating old partitions for me.  <whew>.
[16:49] <noobubuntu> done . http://paste.ubuntu.com/706831/
[16:49] <Krenair> arkanabar, how do you just lose partitions?
[16:49] <Gale0n> Calinou: From Sauerbraten ??
[16:49] <Calinou> yes
[16:50] <Calinou> known troll in #ubuntu-offtopic, even banned from here ;)
[16:50] <Gale0n> xD
[16:50] <Gale0n> xDD
[16:50] <arkanabar> Krenair, I didn't properly anticipate Ananconda's behavior.
[16:50] <Gale0n> I'm helper :3
[16:50] <Calinou> cool, 11.10 comes tomorrow
[16:50] <Calinou> I'm not gonna lose my files again = not gonna update, better go unsupported than lose my stuff
[16:51] <Gale0n> I know
[16:51] <Gale0n> Lol
[16:51] <arkanabar> I'm going to not upgrade, until I see that power consumption has fallen.
[16:51] <Gale0n> Just do the terminal upgrade
[16:51] <Calinou> sucks
[16:51] <jeroth> !12.04
[16:51] <Calinou> lol
[16:51] <gridbag> bi-annual "forgot to backup some files" day.
[16:51] <Gale0n> !12.04 | Calinou
[16:51] <drahst> Polar: http://pastebin.com/x6ZNrneA
[16:51] <Gale0n> hmm
[16:52] <gridbag> semi-annual, rather.
[16:52] <Calinou> bi-annual "omg, want to update to much but not lose my files"
[16:52] <Roasted> so I'm setting up a dhcp/ltsp server and my client is hanging on boot. Any idea what this means? http://pastebin.com/Cg7qEMFv
[16:52] <drahst> er... Polah that is
[16:52] <Gale0n> Calinou: I updated, no problemas
[16:52] <noobubuntu> umm.. polah heres mine too http://paste.ubuntu.com/706831/
[16:52] <Calinou> FAKE updated yes
[16:52] <Calinou> not a real update
[16:52] <Calinou> and... it brokes everything, don't forget
[16:53] <compdoc> drahst, that looks good
[16:53] <Gale0n> lol
[16:53] <drahst> no idea why the system's complaining
[16:53] <compdoc> drahst, check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules   - sometimes the devices found there get in the wrong order if you have been making hardware changes. You just delete the #pci devices and reboot, and Ubuntu will repopulate that file with the devices in the correct order
[16:53] <Polah> drahst: And it says it's not configured, or fails to connect?
[16:54] <drahst> it brings it up just fine on startup, I can use that interface just fine, but when I go to restart networking or use ifdown/ifup, it complains
[16:54] <drahst> when I added the interface, I only edited the interfaces file
[16:54] <drahst> was I supposed to do something else?
[16:54] <Polah> noobubuntu: Hmm, strange that SC doesn't pick that up. Purging and reinstalling it might work, but I'm not sure if that will break the Ubuntu Desktop package set.
[16:55] <noobubuntu> Oh :/
[16:55] <compdoc> drahst, no, but that file I mentioned gets screwed up
[16:55] <noobubuntu> ok thanks polah
[16:55] <vikas_srivastava> what is the scheduled timing of ubuntu 11.10 release?
[16:55] <Polah> drahst: If you got Ubuntu with a desktop by default, nm-applet or similar will handle network management and /etc/network/interfaces isn't used, I don't know exactly how networking is switched between either
[16:55] <compdoc> on the 15th, isnt it?
[16:56] <th_> tomorrow
[16:56] <Polah> vikas_srivastava, hopefully tomorrow.
[16:56] <g0rs> has anybody encrypted their hard drive in ubuntu 11.04 after installation?
[16:56] <drahst> Polah, it's ubuntu server... no desktop, all cli
[16:56] <WsAgent> can anybody help me out to integrate windows active directory in squid proxy server running in ubuntu
[16:56] <th_> or, repos are final already if you upgrade
[16:56] <drahst> compdoc, I'll check out that file
[16:56] <vikas_srivastava> polah : i want exact timing if any?
[16:56] <Polah> drahst: Yeah, have a look at what compdoc suggested then
[16:56] <Polah> vikas_srivastava, I imagine between 06:00 and 18:00
[16:56] <panfist> is there a way to list PPAs on your system, find the stale ones and remove them?
[16:57] <compdoc> drahst, I sometimes have to remove Network Manager for things to work right if I do things manually
[16:57] <vikas_srivastava> panfist : admin-> software sources
[16:57] <Abhijit> vikas_srivastava, thisisntthecountdown.com
[16:57] <Polah> panfist: /etc/apt/sources.list.d contains files for each installed/enabled PPA, there may be a command with apt to list them though
[16:58] <gunksta> Anyone know how to do the equivalent of ssh -p 2222 user@xx.xx.xx.xx using Virtual Machine Manager? I can access my KVM server when I am on the LAN but I want to be able to access it externally on port 2222
[16:58] <Polah> panfist: Of course, if you added them manually they'll be in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:58] <Polah> panfist: You can use ppa-purge to remove/revert packages installed from PPAs
[16:58] <Roasted> Question - my syslog on my DHCP/LTSP server is repeating this: Oct 12 08:49:55 ubuntu-ltsp01 dhcpd: DHCPNAK on 192.168.100.20 to 00:0a:95:81:74:17 via eth0. What does it mean?
[16:58] <vikas_srivastava> Abhijit: try this -> http://thisisthecountdown.com/
[16:59] <panfist> thanks everyone
[17:00] <Abhijit> vikas_srivastava, O.o i just given that link to you! why you giving back to me?
[17:00] <vikas_srivastava> Abhijit: look closely there is some difference .!!
[17:01] <Abhijit> 'n'
[17:01] <pyther> Hello
[17:01] <skeasor> hello
[17:01] <pyther> Can someone pastebin the output of cat /etc/lsb-release?
[17:01] <vikas_srivastava> Abhijit : check both links ..!
[17:01] <savid> Hi, it seems as if gnome-keyring-daemon stops working after suspending.  How can I get it back up and running without having to log out and in again?
[17:01] <Abhijit> vikas_srivastava, both are not opening for me.
[17:02] <pyther> I'm writing a distro detecting script, and the distros I use do not use that file, I know ubuntu does
[17:02] <jgcampbell300> what would you guys recommend for running virtual machines on Ubuntu ?
[17:02] <skeasor> vmware
[17:02] <Abhijit> jgcampbell300, vbox or vmware
[17:02] <root> hy
[17:02] <gunksta> jgcampbell300:kvm
[17:03] <Polah> pyther, http://paste.ubuntu.com/706838/
[17:03] <Abhijit> pyther, http://pastebin.com/GUnsVQAP
[17:03] <pyther> Abhijit and Polah, thank you
[17:03] <Abhijit> pyther, welcome
[17:04] <intangir> is there a new release of ubuntu coming out this month?
[17:04] <jgcampbell300> Abhijit, do you have a preference to witch .. i plan on running Linux distros and Microsoft os's for testing purposes
[17:04] <Abhijit> jgcampbell300, you try both and decide for yourself thats better
[17:04] <john3voltas> greetings
[17:04] <jgcampbell300> Abhijit, thank you
[17:04] <intangir> is there a 11.10 release scheduled this month?
[17:05] <Roasted> Question - my syslog on my DHCP/LTSP server is repeating this: Oct 12 08:49:55 ubuntu-ltsp01 dhcpd: DHCPNAK on 192.168.100.20 to 00:0a:95:81:74:17 via eth0. What does it mean?
[17:05] <oCean> intangir: yes, oct 13th
[17:05] <john3voltas> is this channel only for ubuntu chat or is it also for ubuntu live?
[17:05] <Polah> intangir: Yes. Tomorrow.
[17:05] <Guest48417> y a til des français ici?
[17:05] <Polah> john3voltas, it's for almost all support topics regarding Ubuntu
[17:05] <Polah> !fr | Guest48417
[17:05] <intangir> is the version likely to change between today and tomarrow? can i get it now?
[17:06] <oCean> intangir: the actual release is not available
[17:06] <Ellipsis753> Hey, I've still got this problem where torrenting something sends my main harddrive into "read-only" mode, I then have to reboot a wait for a fsck to fix it. I've tried full harddrive self-checks and it seems fine. My ram is also fine. I'm really stuck for what to do but this is very annoying. I've now tried two different torrent programs, both with the same effect. The computer can be fine for hours but the moment
[17:06] <Ellipsis753>  the torrent program opens the disk goes straight into read-only mode. What is their I can do? I was wondering if this could be problems with ubuntu system files and if this is the case is their anyway to check them?
[17:06] <intangir> is a beta or anything available? that i can easily upgrade tomarrow?
[17:06] <Polah> intangir: There may be some last minute fixes, or release may be postponed to fix some things.
[17:06] <intangir> i have the day off today and my current install is getting flakey..
[17:06] <oCean> intangir: further discussion/support for 11.10 is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[17:06] <intangir> thx
[17:07] <drahst> #ifdown eth3
[17:07] <drahst> SIOCDELRT: No such process
[17:07] <drahst> even after clearinig that file
[17:08] <compdoc> you have to reboot to repopulate that file
[17:08] <drahst> I did
[17:08] <compdoc> then that wasnt the problem
[17:09] <compdoc> the nic is seen by lspci?
[17:09] <compdoc> does that file show the nic?
[17:09] <drahst> it does
[17:09] <drahst> though they are all out of order still
[17:09] <john3voltas> ok, i'll post my question. i'm trying to boot ubuntu from grub4dos (or legacy) which will only use the vmlinuz+initrd.lz+filesystem.squash. in my testings, ubuntu starts loading but then stops half-way through it stating that it couldn't find the iso image.
[17:09] <drahst> but it does show them
[17:09] <drahst> and the interface is up and working
[17:09] <compdoc> well, its the order the motherboard sees them
[17:09] <B08> compdoc: ls -.list pci -> all pci cards attached to mother board
[17:10] <dean> Hi all I am currently using Cowbell and when I try to click on guess song it shows connection has failed error is cowbell no longer used does anyone know?
[17:10] <john3voltas> but as said, i don't want to boot from the image. i want to boot from vmlinuz+initrd.lz+filesystem.squash.
[17:10] <wonderworld> hey, how can i start a second instance of a program in unity?
[17:10] <Gale0n> Calinou: i never even knew you used Ubuntu
[17:10] <Calinou> lolfail then...
[17:10] <josimar> hi
[17:11] <compdoc> sometimes the onboard nice and the pcie and pci nics dont load inthe order you would like
[17:11] <Gale0n> Lol
[17:11] <compdoc> *onboard nic
[17:11] <drahst> it's one of 2 that have a cable in it
[17:12] <cheater__> hi
[17:12] <B08> hi josimar cheater__
[17:12] <Ellipsis753> Could my harddrive be locking into read-only due to high I/O? Apparently some people think it can. Is their anything I can do about this?
[17:12] <cheater__> i have a problem, i was installing libxml2 from source using checkinstall, and it aborted
[17:12] <cheater__> now i'm left with no libxml so's
[17:12] <wonderworld> hey, how can i start a second instance of a program in unity?
[17:13] <wonderworld> like start firefox 2 times
[17:13] <cheater__> i need to reinstall the package, but dpkg shows the package that was installed by checkinstall!
[17:13] <cheater__> how do i restore the version from the repos?
[17:13] <B08> cheater__: sudo apt-get install <name of package > ?
[17:14] <Gale0n> B08:Wrong
[17:14] <B08> cheater__: I am new
[17:14] <B08> to unix based computers
[17:14] <Gale0n> cheater__: apt-get remove <package>; apt-get install <package<
[17:14] <Gale0n> >>
[17:14] <dr_willis> wonderworld:  middle click the icon to start a new one i belove.
[17:14] <Mike9863> When my computer resumes from sleeping, it takes quite a while for the network manager to start looking for wifis and connecting to my own. Is there a way to make it work right as I resume?
[17:14] <wonderworld> dr_willis: this is a netbook. no middle mousebutton
[17:14] <timofonic> Hello
[17:15] <ljsoftnet> hi timofonic
[17:15] <B08> Gale0n: no purge ?
[17:15] <dr_willis> Theres some unity mouse/keyboard chewat sheet somewhere id say look it up.. wonderworld . click both left/right is normally a middle click also.
[17:15] <B08> Gale0n:  I am also learning from this
[17:15] <dr_willis> theres prob. some other keyboard combos for it./
[17:15] <Gale0n> B08, no
[17:15] <Gale0n> B08, good luck
[17:15] <Gale0n> !
[17:15] <cheater__> Gale0n: remove will remove all the dependencies which is half of ubuntu
[17:15] <wonderworld> dr_willis: thanks
[17:15] <jmcantrell> how do i set PATH so that it's available to gui apps?
[17:16] <cheater__> i need to somehow change which package is selected
[17:16] <cheater__> not really sure how
[17:16] <Gale0n> cheater__: apt-get reinstall <package<
[17:16] <Gale0n> >>
[17:16] <saulotoledo> hello! I have an earphone, but when I connect it in my netbook I hear the sound at earphone and computer at same time. I want hear only at earohone when connect it
[17:16] <timofonic> I experience freeze on some Chromium tabs and occasional small jitering on audio playing. I'm under Ubuntu 11.10 and wonder if it's some kind of known issu or can be solved in some way, as it's annoying
[17:16] <cheater__> Gale0n: that does not work, it tries to reinstall the deb created by checkinstall, doesn't find it, and dies
[17:17] <B08> apt-get --purge remove      <[--- will remove program and dependencies or does  apt-get remove do that allready
[17:17] <Gale0n> aptitude reinstall <package<
[17:17] <Gale0n> >>
[17:17] <B08> cheater__: if you installed from source then it is not in repo
[17:17] <Gale0n> damn i should stop smoking.
[17:17] <B08> so apt will not see it
[17:17] <Gale0n> B08, apt-get remove is th same.
[17:17] <timofonic> The Chromium problem is a bit dificult to explain, the behaviour is a bit weird. It's not average freeze, but it's like it never loads the page. Sometimes an aaplication crashing window message appears, but the browser it's still loaded
[17:18] <B08> Gale0n: thanks :)
[17:18] <Gale0n> np
[17:18] <B08> what is purpose of --purge if any ?
[17:18] <timofonic> Also, the audio jitering is just occasional, specially more hearable when starting to play a file or changing music in an audio stream
[17:18] <skeasor> I must say, ubuntu has come a long way since the last time I've ran it! :)
[17:18] <compdoc> ubuntu is pretty nice
[17:18] <meco> I'm using openbox to preserve system resources, and I want to access the Windows partition. However, if I start nautilus that seems to invoke xterm (at least in some respects). I can't find any command for mounting the partition using midnight commander, and I'm unfamiliar with the 'mount' command. Any tips?
[17:19] <pangolin> B08: purge will also remove the config files
[17:19] <B08> pangolin:  Thanks :>)
[17:19] <cheater_> B08: libxml2 IS in the repository, but i was installing from source.
[17:19] <pangolin> B08: see man apt-get
[17:19] <greg30001> any suggestions on what software to use to keep a set of ubuntu clients up to date based on one main system?
[17:19] <timofonic> I never had problems in other distros, so this is showing me I should change from Ubuntu to other. I'm considering as some kind of unresolved issue as I've seen older Ubuntu versions have Chomium problems too
[17:20] <Paul_> hi guys someone can help me?
[17:20] <ikonia> timofonic: use whatever distro works best to suit your need
[17:20] <AnGuSxD> hi
[17:20] <vacho_> how can I search an entire folder and subfolders for a specific occurence in a file???
[17:20] <AnGuSxD> someone here that can help me with a short question?
[17:21] <compdoc> hard to say
[17:21] <oCean> vacho_: find . -type f | xargs grep -i string
[17:21] <cheater_> where does dpkg keep its information about which packages are installed from where?
[17:21] <AnGuSxD> just curious, i read tomorrow will be a new ubuntu release, do you know that this is true?
[17:21] <timofonic> ikonia: OK, I'll do as it seems nobody cares about bugs or problems in Ubuntu. It seems marketing is more important than that...
[17:21] <compdoc> should be
[17:21] <ikonia> timofonic: ok, bye
[17:22] <timofonic> ikonia: Thanks for your support, you are the only one that replied at least...
[17:22] <AnGuSxD> nice, cause I've got some probs with 11.04 and I read Kernel 3.0 should be better for my business ^^
[17:24] <Paul_> hi can you help me... in the terminal how can i search for the best update server.... default dont connect..... i screwed up unity errasing it... no graphic mode
[17:25] <slsala> hey...on my notebook, all four partitions are occupied by windows 7. one of them is the windows 7 boot partition, one is c:\ the other two i dont know. how do i install ubuntu besides windows 7?
[17:25] <dr_willis> Paul_:   the pacakge manager i think has some 'find fastest server' item in the menus. there used to be a cli command also i redcall ages ago
[17:26] <JohnRandom> good evening
[17:26] <dr_willis> slsala:  normally a special win7 boot. then the actual os. then a rescue/recovery partition. People in #windows maybe able to help better
[17:26] <nyvaken> Hello everybody, can anybody tell me how to edit conky config?
[17:26] <gunksta> greg30001: ntp
[17:26] <dr_willis> nyvaken:  its a text file. any text editor can edit conky config files
[17:26] <ikonia> nyvaken: it's just a text file, any text editor will do
[17:27] <JohnRandom> quick question, I want a user to be able to execute "sudo serbice apache2 restart" without being promped for a password. How would I have to set that in /etc/sudoers?
[17:27] <nyvaken> @dr_willis, ikonia, where can I find it?
[17:27] <JohnRandom> I found a lot of stuff on google for scripts with a single path, but nothing for service scripts
[17:27] <ikonia> nyvaken: in your home directory, .conky
[17:28] <MrElendig> JohnRandom: man -P "less -p NOPASSWD" sudoers
[17:28] <nyvaken> @ikonia .conky dir does not exist there
[17:28] <dr_willis> nyvaken:  you may want to spend some time readingg the conky docs at its homepage
[17:28] <nyvaken> neither config does.
 thanks but i have no menus.... no unity....nothing its errased... i can only update via terminal how can i search the server
[17:28] <ikonia> nyvaken: really ? in your home dir ? do you have a conkyrc
[17:28] <MrElendig> JohnRandom: youruser ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/serbice  or whatever the path to it is
[17:28] <conrad_> hey there can some one help me with setting my usb audio card as defult on xubuntu 11..4
[17:29] <dr_willis> nyvaken:  you make a conky config whever you want. and tell conky what one to use. normally its .conkyrc i recall
[17:29] <nyvaken> I searched for conkyrc @home dir. it does not exist. I reinstalled app but still havent worked
[17:29] <JohnRandom> MrElendig: I got that, but I want to restrict that only to "apache2 restart" …
[17:29] <dr_willis> nyvaken:  you MAKE one.
[17:29] <MrElendig> JohnRandom: youruser ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/serbice apache2 restart
[17:29] <dr_willis> nyvaken:   tthe app does not put one  in your home bby default
[17:30] <MrElendig> (yes, it works)
[17:30] <JohnRandom> MrElendig: that work's? I'll try that
[17:30] <nyvaken> @dr_willis ah I got it 10x.
[17:30] <nyvaken> @dr_willis so it could be like nano ~/.conkyrc?
[17:31] <MrElendig> JohnRandom: you can even use globbing/regex for selecting arguments
[17:31] <dr_willis> nyvaken:  I strongly suggest going to thhe conky homepage and readinng their very detailed docs
[17:31] <B08> I have a question say I made a bashrc file and wanted to use it I know that I can use anytext editor to cange the one under ~/.bashrc but say the one that I made is under ~/Desktop/<name>    How can I move just the contents that are inside of the .txt file under ~/Desktop/name.txt  and insert them inside of the ~/.bashrc file ? thanks
[17:32] <JohnRandom> MrElendig: nice thing :) thanks
[17:32] <MrElendig> JohnRandom: lots of examples in the examples section, including some info about gotchyas etc
[17:32] <dr_willis> B08:  open both files in the text editors.  and copy/paste ass needed
[17:32] <B08> dr_willis: there is no way to just move the contents with out a txt editor ?
[17:33] <milsem> hi
[17:33] <dr_willis> B08:  if you knew exactly wwhat lines.. and wanted to spit out some complex baash commands.. yes..
[17:33] <B08> how about all the lines then replace ?
[17:33] <Paul_> dr_willis: I have no user interface unity is gone i have only terminal to update
[17:33] <dr_willis> B08:  thats a little vague..
[17:34] <milsem> Recommend me a smtp server that does not limit messages
[17:34] <tok_> How do I configure a logitech cordless optical trackman on ubuntu 10.04?  The ball is moving too slow and I would like to know how to configure the buttons.  Thanks
[17:34] <dr_willis> Paul_:  there used to be some command line tools. but i  dont recall what it is. you could just edit your sources.list by hand and change the countrry
[17:34] <milsem> gmail has limit 500 messages for a day
[17:35] <milsem> If someone uses please find me a private
[17:35] <MrElendig> milsem: run your own?
[17:35] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever noticed the gmail limit.. :)
[17:36] <g0rs> dr_willis: do you use compiz?
[17:36] <MrElendig> dr_willis: you are not a spammer or running a ml using gmail as the smtp :p
[17:36] <B08> dr_willis:  you are right I think that I need to learn what awk and sed do and the difference
[17:36] <dr_willis> g0rs:  ubuntu and unity use compiz by default. :) so yes.
[17:36] <auronandace> milsem: you read 500 emails a day?
[17:36] <MrElendig> milsem: doesn't your isp provide you with a smtp server btw?
[17:36] <B08> man pages are ?0o? me
[17:36] <MrElendig> auronandace: s/read/send/
[17:36] <g0rs> dr_willis: animations aren't working even though i've enabled them. Do you know what could be the reason?
[17:37] <milsem> no only for use one time
[17:37] <milsem> MrElendig
[17:37] <dr_willis> g0rs:  nope. :) you sure compiz is enabled.. 'compiz --replace'  and see?
[17:37] <MrElendig> milsem: just run your own smtp them if it's just for one time use
[17:37] <MrElendig> milsem: there are several small ones that are easy to set up
[17:37] <dr_willis> one time emails? use mailinator.
[17:38] <dr_willis> gotta love   makeupanemail@mailinator.com :)
[17:38] <MrElendig> dr_willis: he's sending not reading
[17:38] <dr_willis> MrElendig:  so hes spamming? :)
[17:38] <MrElendig> dr_willis: basicly :p
[17:38] <Paul_> dr_willis: god im screwed there should be another way? because i type <sudo apt-get update> and does not connect.. no proxy .. and also i delete compiz.. and ´´restore´´ unity... errased. i need help
[17:39] <dr_willis> Paul_:  can you even ping the dns servers? or other ip/sites?
[17:39] <dr_willis> Paul_:  why would you delete compiz?
[17:39] <g0rs> dr_willis: i did that and still there are no effects.
[17:39] <huslage> hi everyone. i'm trying to set up this T-Mobile Rocket 4g USB modem. i'm able to send it AT commands, but I'm unsure how to use the usb0 device. Do I still need to use wvdial/ppp to do this?
[17:39] <milsem> i can to setup smtp if i have vps, in home my network cannot started smtp. I am with DSL
[17:39] <dr_willis> g0rs:  look in terminal for error messages I guess.. check the 'ccsm' tool to see whats enabled.
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> huslage: run:  lsusb    and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[17:40] <huslage> ActionParsnip: there don't seem to be any yet
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> huslage: is the device inserted?
[17:41] <MrElendig> milsem: unless the eula your isp has bans you from running a smtp server on the line, you can simply run it on your box
[17:41] <martyn> Oneieric + Multi-Monitor + nVidia : The non-login screen always ends up displaying garbage, rather than a blank screen or a copy of the background of the login screen.  I can't find the issue in Launchpad .. is there a known issue?
[17:41] <huslage> all the talk is about how to use usb_modeswitch, which i've done
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> huslage: if there is no item in lsusb, the device will not be usable in any way
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> huslage: try a different USB port
[17:42] <huslage> ActionParsnip: i have the device working. i don't know how to make it connect to the internet.
[17:42] <milsem> ok, thanks
[17:42] <huslage> ActionParsnip: there's no discussion of how the usbnet stuff functions with these cards….or how to make it work.
[17:42] <g0rs> dr_willis: compiz wont enabled animations even though i've turned them on. I'm on gnome in ubuntu 11.04
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> huslage: its in network manager
[17:43] <MrElendig> g0rs: what gfx card and driver?
[17:43] <Paul_> dr_willis: i just wanna the default setting... im in usa but for some reason the default server does not connect i changed ´´when it was in graphic mode´´ to serch the server as you said and it work to update... but now i guess i put to default also network connects to the net but not that server... can you help me with command to change the server?
[17:43] <g0rs> MrElendig: nvidia 8400gs with nvidia driver
[17:43] <tok_> How do I set the speed of a trackball other then in the "mouse config screen" The mouse siders aren't changing the speed on the trackball
[17:43] <auronandace> martyn: 11.10 isn't supported her until it is released
[17:44] <auronandace> here
[17:44] <Martyn> auronandace: Yes, spotted the /topic a bit late, switched to #ubuntu+1
[17:44] <auronandace> Martyn: thanks
[17:45] <huslage> i'm not running any gui, ActionParsnip
[17:45] <tbruff13> Does any one know of any free or commerical software that will let me talk and it types the words in libreoffice
[17:45] <andygraybeals_> ta/join
[17:45] <MrElendig> tbruff13: ?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> huslage: ah, I see. not sure there dude. I don't use 3G here but that's all I have. Maybe the guys in #ubuntu-server can help
[17:46] <huslage> k
[17:46] <huslage> thanks ActionParsnip
[17:46] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip are usb modems supported by ubuntu?
[17:47] <nyvaken> clear
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: sure, usb_modeswitch makes them stop being USB storage and become modems
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[17:47] <auronandace> !modem | ljsoftnet
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> !info festival
[17:48] <dr_willis> festival does speech to text now?  wasent that what he was asking?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=838372
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/27614
[17:49] <richthegeek> hi, I have an SSD in my machine (with / and /home on it) and it keeps dropping out after ~20 minutes of use
[17:49] <richthegeek> the SMART data is showing it's all fine and dmesg isn't saying anything particular
[17:49] <richthegeek> how can I figure out waht's going on?
[17:49] <nyvaken> does anybody know the command for showing memberlist @Irssi?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> richthegeek: is the ram healthy?
[17:50] <richthegeek> ActionParsnip: possibly, i'll do a memtest on next book
[17:50] <richthegeek> it's been sitting in the case for nigh on 3 years now
[17:50] <alkisg> Is it normal for wubi installations to have spikes with 50% or more CPU usage for mount.ntfs?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> nyvaken: irssi cheat sheet: http://michael-prokop.at/stg/irc_workshop.txt
[17:50] <alkisg> Like, 1 minute spikes? :)
[17:50] <richthegeek> the SSD has a power-on time of 1.1 years so it could just be failing (already ordered the replacement)
[17:52] <auronandace> alkisg: i don't know many who use wubi, you may want to try ubuntu in a vm instead
[17:52] <alkisg> auronandace: unfortunately in that lab where I want to show ubuntu the machines don't have enough RAM for VMs
[17:53] <xrdodrx> alkisg, yes, that's normal
[17:53] <xrdodrx> sadly
[17:53] <alkisg> xrdodrx: thanks, ouch that makes wubi much less usuable than I thought :(
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: can I PM please dude?
[17:53] <auronandace> alkisg: can you dual boot in the lab?
[17:54] <xrdodrx> alkisg, linux definitely wasn't designed to run on the ntfs file system ;)
[17:54] <Braj> can i chat regarding edubuntu here
[17:54] <alkisg> auronandace: I'll only be teaching there for 5 hours, I wouldn't want to repartition the disks for such a small time. I'll try to boot them as LTSP fat clients (diskless workstations)
[17:54] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  if its fast.. its my bed time. :)
[17:55] <alkisg> Braj: sure, and there's also a dedicated #edubuntu channel too
[17:55] <alkisg> xrdodrx: yes, but I thought that if it allocated the whole 10 gb up front, it wouldn't have to bother too much with ntfs, as no sectors would be even reallocated... :-/
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: PMed ;)
[17:56] <tok_> What config file do I edit for adjusting the trackball speed on Ubuntu 10.04
[17:56] <cypha> I'm having an issue where I've switched capslock and ctrl, but now I can't switch them back to normal. I found something regarding swapcaps in xorg.log? https://gist.github.com/59151e2e216f39441b6d but I'm not sure from what file it's reading this information. Would someone mind taking a look and saying what file the swapcaps option is written in?
[17:57] <auronandace> tok_: just check under the mouse settings
[17:58] <tok_> auronandance: I have it set to max speed with no difference.
[17:59] <auronandace> tok_: you sure you selected the right pointing device to change the speed of?
[18:01] <tok_> auronandace: under System/Pref/Mouse right?
[18:02] <auronandace> tok_: i guess so, is there a dropdown list or maybe some tabs: eg. touchpad, usb mouse, trackpoint
[18:02] <auronandace> tok_: i use xfce rather than gnome/unity so i'm guessing
[18:03] <Younder> So tomorrow (13'th Oct) is the new ubuntu release
[18:03] <crash1hd> Hey everyone, it seems that with my machine (I just did a fresh install of 10.10 and the issue I am having with the cdrom drive locking up in 11.04 when closing the tray (regardless if there is a cd or dvd or nothing in it) doesnt exsist) so this issue is something in the upgrade?  Is there any way of figuring out what the issue is) I am running an update now to 11.04 to see if doing this inline fixes it thoughts?
[18:03] <crash1hd> when I do a fresh install of 11.04 I have the issue but when I do a fresh install of 10.10 I do not?
[18:03] <thorsten_> anyone here know how to set up multiscreen in ubuntu (on intel chip in sandy bridge notebook, displayport) ? that would be epic
[18:03] <auronandace> Younder: yes
[18:03] <MrElendig> crash1hd: usually caused by udisks or similar polling the device
[18:04] <tok_> auronandace: no just 2 tabs General and Accessibility
[18:04] <sickn3ss> how's glibc-devel named in Ubuntu repos
[18:04] <crash1hd> MrElendig, How do I check that?
[18:04] <MrElendig> tok_: xrandr --output internalmonitor --mode something --output yourothermonitor --mode whatever --right-of internalmonitor  or similar
[18:05] <MrElendig> er.. thorsten_ ^
[18:06] <nyvaken> screen irssi
[18:07] <auronandace> tok_: this is what i see: http://imagebin.org/178655
[18:07] <auronandace> tok_: but that is on xfce, very self-explanitory
[18:08] <tok_> its basically the same except you have more input devices...  Its just not having any effect on this new trackball....  it worked great with a regular mouse
[18:09] <libscout_> are 137, 138, 139, and 445 the only ports that need to be open for SAMBA?
[18:09] <auronandace> tok_: not sure how to help sorry, i tend to use the usb mouse
[18:11] <tok_> auronandace:  thanks for trying!
[18:11] <Phrogz> I have a tablet running Ubuntu (9.04), not Android. I want to be able to SSH into it from my host computer (ideally Windows, could be Ubuntu also). Kicker: only connection is USB from host to tablet. Possible?
[18:11] <auronandace> tok_: no worries :)
[18:12] <xr--> Wow :)
[18:12] <auronandace> Phrogz: 9.04 is end of life so no longer supported
[18:13] <vafied_> any application for listen to online radio from terminal ?
[18:14] <Phrogz> auronandace: If it's possible with 10, I could convince someone to upgrade :)
[18:14] <crash1hd> MrElendig, hmm will i be able to downgrade the udisk version I have noticed that there has been an update to it in the new version
[18:15] <cypha> How can I figure out what the correct keyboard layout is for me?
[18:15] <auronandace> Phrogz: i've never known ssh to work through usb
[18:16] <Levende>  does apt have a feature to install packages to a seperate, isolated root filesystem?  let's say I have a directory tree in /diskless  , I know with portage I can go "emerge --root/diskless" and it will install packages to this root FS... can I do the same with apt?  And no, chrooting would not work because that would require the package manager to be configured in /diskless
[18:16] <Phrogz> auronandace: Thanks. I can find plenty of Google hits on ssh'ing through the USB to iPhones, but nothing for other OS.
[18:17] <ImDoT> hi guys, is this the right channel to ask tech questions ?
[18:17] <vafied_> ImDoT: try
[18:17] <auronandace> Phrogz: i'd have thought it would be detected as an external storage drive when connected via usb
[18:17] <eross> what happened to the drivers that have my brother HL2070N printer messed up? I try to print and all I get is paper feed out constantly.
[18:18] <neil_m> ImDoT either you'll get an answer, you wont get an answer or you'll get someone bitching about it being offtopic
[18:18] <ImDoT> ok.... I want to setup multiscreen on my notebook here , displayport is attached but I cant get it to show anything (11.04, sandybridge). very frustrating
[18:18] <BigMao> This is a friendlier channel than most though.  :)
[18:18] <neil_m> :)
[18:19] <vafied_> ImDoT: what kind of video card ?
[18:19] <ImDoT> intel hd3000
[18:19] <BigMao> ImDoT, the first thing I would do is check whether you have your graphics driver installed
[18:19] <usr13> eross: What did you do?
[18:19] <usr13> Distribution upgrade?
[18:19] <s11_> hi my laptop bios screen disappeared but I can still boot into ubuntu + windows via grub (knowing where they are on th elist frommemory :)
[18:20] <auronandace> eross: out of ink?
[18:20] <ImDoT> the card seems to bve installed, I used that bumblebee project to get it to work, evrything seemed alright, it just doenst see the external screen somehow
[18:20] <s11_> laptop bios screen disappeared atix1270 video with dual screen
[18:20] <Levende> BigMao, yes, though the only problem is everyone is rather dumbed down after long exposure to a distro that requires little knowledge... so it's difficult getting technical questions answered in here
[18:20] <h00k> Levende: if you're having issues getting questions answered in here, there's also the forums, askubuntu, and local community mailinglists
[18:20] <BigMao> Levende, yeah, that is correct, this channel is a bit less technical
[18:21] <vafied_> ImDoT: you don't have an extra configuration interface for that video card ?
[18:21] <BigMao> ImDoT, do you know if the Intel HD Graphics driver has any kind of configuration utility that generates an xorg.conf file?
[18:21] <eross> upgraded to 11.10
[18:21] <BigMao> If there is no configuration interface then you would have to edit xorg.conf manually.
[18:21] <eross> another laptop wireless - same effect
[18:22] <eross> and wired into router with pc
[18:22] <ImDoT> well arand, and the guis for that but they all say the external port is "deactivated". Now i try to find way to activate that
[18:22] <oCean> eross: Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released (still beta). Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[18:22] <mang0> Is there a way to get rid of the login keyring stuff at startup? I'm the only user of my computer, don't want to put in my password every time. And are there any small/light free screen recorders (making tutorials etc) that are any good? for linux, obv.
[18:23] <eross> err i mean 11.04, whatever the latest stable non-LTS is
[18:23] <usr13> eross: lsb_release -a
[18:24] <goldenucf> I have a monitor that seems to have lost its EDID information... I have another of the same so I was able to get a copy of it, but how do I flash it to the problem monitor in ubuntu?
[18:24] <Fuchs> goldenucf: what driver? For nvidia it's a config option
[18:25] <goldenucf> yes, its nvidia... to flash it back to the hardware?
[18:25] <Fuchs> that I don't know, but:
[18:25] <grobda24> Hello. How do I allow a user to use the framebuffer without permissions error ?
[18:25] <tsaknorris> i wanna know how iphone mounts itself? i have now connected the iphone to laptop, but i can't find its mount point?
[18:25] <MrElendig> goldenucf: you are using a vga cable I asume?
[18:26] <xrdodrx> mang0, yes and yes. Run "seahorse" from the command line and set your key password to be blank. As far as screen recorders go, you can do that within VLC or you can install the package gtk-recordmydesktop
[18:26] <Fuchs> goldenucf: Option "CustomEDID" "string"   << this, syntax in more detail: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/260.19.12/README/xconfigoptions.html
[18:26] <goldenucf> dvi
[18:26] <Fuchs> goldenucf: make sure that the cable is fully connected and there are no adapters or such
[18:26] <MrElendig> goldenucf: add the users to whatever group owns /dev/fb0
[18:26] <MrElendig> er.. grobda24 ^
[18:26] <tsaknorris> i can see all the iphone files on nautilus, but i wanna use console
[18:27] <mang0> xrdodrx: Great, thanks. And I'll have a look about vlc as I have that already. Thankyou.
[18:27] <christofer> tsaknorris: have you checked /media/?
[18:27] <GRMrGecko> Hello, we are having problems with ubuntu freezing. I am told that you can switch between work spaces, but not windows or applications.
[18:27] <tsaknorris> christofer, yes i have and also /mnt
[18:27] <BigMao> ImDoT, you can check to see if the drivers are loaded in your dmesg.  Otherwise I would explore the configuration GUI some more or go to google, since i'm not familiar with that graphics adapter
[18:27] <GRMrGecko> I am using the prelease updates so maybe downgrading would help?
[18:27] <goldenucf> Fuchs, that would get the nvidia driver to use it.. is there a program like powerstrip for windows that can actually upload it back to the monitor?
[18:27] <anurag> hi i have some problem relate with establishing connection betn gcc compiler and mysql
[18:28] <anurag> pls help me
[18:28] <tsaknorris> sudo fdisk -l doesnt work or plain mount command
[18:28] <h00k> GRMrGecko: Head over to #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric Ocelot support :)
[18:28] <Fuchs> goldenucf: I don't know any, no
[18:28] <h00k> GRMrGecko: /join #ubuntu+1
[18:28] <tsaknorris> well they work but they cant show me the iphone mount
[18:28] <mang0> xrdodrx: Which pass do I need to change? I can only see my internet passes; forums etc
[18:29] <Jahcros> exit
[18:29] <Jahcros> exit
[18:29] <anurag> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[18:29] <anurag> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[18:29] <ImDoT> Bigmao, thx I will give it a try
[18:29] <christofer> tsaknorris: hmm, maybe a long shot, but if you right-click in the iphone folder in nautilus and choose properties, what does it say under location?
[18:29] <GRMrGecko> h00k: This is not the beta of 12
[18:29] <GRMrGecko> this is 11
[18:29] <scorinitron> Jordan_U, Thanks for the help yesterday I figured out what was wrong your awesome!!
[18:30] <vafied_> offtopic groove salad radio station is a great station
[18:30] <tsaknorris> [ 7675.705455] usb 2-1.6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8  <--- how to see that address
[18:30] <GRMrGecko> wait
[18:30] <GRMrGecko> hold on
[18:30] <GRMrGecko> let me check
[18:30] <h00k> GRMrGecko: are you on 11.04, or 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot?
[18:30] <scorinitron> ???Their's an 11.10??
[18:30] <h00k> GRMrGecko: lsb_release -r  <-- do this in a terminal
[18:30] <scorinitron> WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?
[18:30] <anurag> how i connect mysql,when i am trying this error will occur ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[18:31] <h00k> scorinitron: there will be as of tomorrow
[18:31] <scorinitron> SWEET!
[18:31] <scorinitron> h00k, Wait is it worth the update?
[18:31] <tsaknorris> christofer, well there is afc://cbb0c2a5eb3df99d41b46ec9861731048f07a1f1/
[18:31] <GRMrGecko> h00k: 11.04
[18:31] <vafied_> scorinitron: tomorrow
[18:32] <anurag> can anyone solve my problem
[18:32] <vafied_> anurag: be sure that you have installed both server and client
[18:32] <anurag> ya
[18:32] <GRMrGecko> I enabled the pre-release repository to update because we were having issues with the wifi crashing the network and thought that'll fix it.
[18:32] <GRMrGecko> I ended up turning off wifi
[18:32] <GRMrGecko> and that fixed that
[18:33] <anurag> no ithink it right
[18:33] <GRMrGecko> however I am still using the pre-release.
[18:33] <vafied_> anurag: try to star session using root linux user
[18:33] <anurag> how
[18:33] <vafied_> sudo passwd and give a password to sudo
[18:33] <vafied_> then su -
[18:33] <GRMrGecko> and it is freezing.
[18:33] <vafied_> and then try again to connect to mysql
[18:33] <scorinitron> is the update worth it?
[18:34] <oCean> vafied_: don't suggest how to enable a root password in this channel please
[18:34] <tsaknorris> i also want to know how to see that folder what i made to iphone, but first this console issue (how to see iphone mount point)
[18:34] <sdasd> Hi guys, im running the linux-image-2.6.32-29-scst (Debian 10.04) and I have issues inserting the arcmsr module, it states "FATAL: Error inserting arcmsr (/lib/modules/2.6.32-29-server/extra/arcmsr.ko): Invalid module format". I've downloaded the linux-headers-scst (which basically is the 2.6.32.29-server generic + scst). The output of the building of the module can be read here : http://past
[18:34] <sdasd> ebin.com/JCkBE3A2. Any Pointers/tips :)?
[18:34] <h00k> scorinitron: you can ask questions/find out in #ubuntu+1 if you'd like
[18:34] <vafied_> anurag: dont do that u_U
[18:34] <vafied_> oCean: ok ok
[18:34] <GRMrGecko> there is 19 packages available to upgrade
[18:34] <GRMrGecko> maybe if I upgrade it'll fix these issues?
[18:34] <anurag> then
[18:34] <anurag> i have
[18:34] <anurag> done
[18:35] <cypha> how do I turn of gnome's scrollbar?
[18:35] <h00k> GRMrGecko: I would suggest that, it's usually a good idea
[18:35] <h00k> ubottu: enter | anurag
[18:35] <Ebron> anurag: kill mysqld, delete the mysqld.sock file and restart the server
[18:35] <vafied_> anurag: work ?
[18:35] <edgy> Hi, how am I suppose to remove an installed kernel, let's say linux-image-3.0.0-11-generic with software center? with synaptics it's very easy
[18:36] <anurag> how ican do can u give me all command
[18:36] <christofer> tsaknorris: another longshot, but can https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Device_full.2C_.22how_were_I_to_know.3F.22 help in any way?
[18:36] <vafied_> what ?
[18:36] <anurag> actually ia m new user
[18:36] <anurag> i dont know how i can kill mysql
[18:37] <LemonAid> Did anyone try out driftnet on natty ? I seem to have the issue of it not doing anything.
[18:37] <Ebron> anurak: ps ax|grep mysql -> sudo kill 'pid' (where pid is the mysqld process id listed from the previous command)
[18:37] <vafied_> why do you want to kill mysql ?
[18:37] <edgy> anurag: /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[18:37] <Ebron> vafied_: because he needs to regenerate the .sock file
[18:37] <grobda24> MrElendig, YES !!! Worked. First time I've had the framebuffer running with links2 :D
[18:37] <anurag> u are given above statement
[18:37] <vafied_> ps aux |grep mysql
[18:38] <vafied_> then kill -9 all mysql pid's
[18:38] <anurag> but u know it it will not running
[18:39] <vafied_> anurag: how are you running mysql ?
[18:39] <tsaknorris> christofer,  thanks man but i think this one is too big cake for me :D  apple is using some weird magic or the moon isnt in right angle for me.
[18:39] <newb_newb> Did 11.10 release?
[18:39] <scorinitron> tomorrow it will as far as I've been told
[18:40] <newb_newb> thank you.
[18:40] <anurag> i have just install iam trying to connect it ,but iam unable to connect
[18:40] <anurag> can u give me remote assistance
[18:40] <vafied_> yup
[18:40] <xpress> anybody can help me a little ? =)
[18:40] <oCean> anurag: what is your current ubuntu version?
[18:41] <vafied_> xpress: ask
[18:41] <anurag> 10.4lts
[18:41] <xpress> vadied_: i try to install madwifi
[18:41] <xpress> vadied_: couse i have the networking working terible
[18:41] <oCean> anurag: how did you install mysql?
[18:42] <xpress> vafied_: i try to install madwifi couse mi network is working terible :P
[18:42] <xpress> vafied_: but i have a problem ^^
[18:42] <xpress> vafied_: so can u help me with that ?
[18:43] <anurag> using internet and command apt-get install
[18:43] <vafied_> xpress: sorry mate i don't know about madwifi
[18:43] <xpress> vafied_: ok no problem =)
[18:43] <oCean> anurag: ok, but what did you apt-get install (there are several mysql packages)
[18:43] <intangir> how can i get multiple monitors to work? im using nvidia video card
[18:43] <tsaknorris> christofer,  its that Apple FIle Connection protocol AFC (i would need to jailbrake it) plah...ok next question how i can see the files what insert to iphone?
[18:43] <lordjj> xpress, it would do you better to skip all the intros and pop a question for someone to answer
[18:44] <tsaknorris> christofer, files i have inserted to phone. how i can see them
[18:45] <xpress> lordjj: second =)
[18:45] <christofer> tsaknorris: it doesnt seem like you can access the drive directly, but if you run the command stated in the help documentation, can you access the folders it outputs?
[18:45] <Abdu> Hello everybody!
[18:45] <anurag> can any-one give remote assistance to solve my problem
[18:45] <xpress> lordjj: ioctl: No such device ... so what i do ?
[18:45] <oCean> anurag: I'm trying
[18:45] <lonix> What timezone does ubuntu relases follow ?
[18:46] <anurag> ok
[18:46] <oCean> anurag: please tell what you did to install
[18:46] <anurag> means
[18:46] <Abdu> I have installed ubuntu server 11.04 , i want to make a share disk driver to every user on my local network. Most of them have windows
[18:46] <oCean> anurag: in terminal, run  dpkg -l |grep mysql   and paste the output of that command at  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:46] <xpress> can somebody help me with this (ioctl: No such device)
[18:47] <lordjj> xpress, I'm not familiar with mad wifi but can you describe your problem more?
[18:47] <xpress> =)
[18:47] <Abdu> my question is: How can i make H.D.D share drive to ever one of them where the quota is 3 GB max
[18:47] <vafied_> anurag: try this   mysql -uroot -p
[18:47] <xpress> lordjj , yes :P i try to put this command ( wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta )
[18:47] <anurag> actually i need mysql connectivity to gcc compiler for running mysql and handling databases using c language
[18:47] <tsaknorris> christofer, what command you want to me to run ( ihave looked that url)
[18:48] <oCean> anurag: ok, if you're not going to respond to my suggestions, I stop here
[18:48] <tsaknorris> christofer, ifuse?
[18:48] <xpress> lordjj: for creating interface
[18:48] <recon69_lap> anyone else getting firefox-bin often not unloading
[18:48] <anurag> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[18:48] <anurag> no sir
[18:48] <anurag> please
[18:48] <anurag> help me
[18:49] <anurag> above error comes ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[18:49] <lordjj> xpress, so what does "ifconfig" show?
[18:49] <vafied_> anurag:  you did sudo apt-get install mysql- ???????
[18:49] <jcook_5xdata> anurag, sound like mysql is not installed or running
[18:49] <vafied_> anurag: mysql what ?
[18:49] <anurag> when i am running ur given command
[18:49] <anurag> yes
[18:49] <lonix> does anyone know ?
[18:49] <anurag> i did
[18:49] <xpress> lordjj: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  direcciónHW 88:ae:1d:84:5a:a4
[18:49] <xpress>           ACTIVO DIFUSIÓN MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Métrica:1
[18:49] <xpress>           Paquetes RX:0 errores:0 perdidos:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[18:49] <xpress>           Paquetes TX:0 errores:0 perdidos:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[18:49] <xpress>           colisiones:0 long.colaTX:1000
[18:49] <xpress>           Bytes RX:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[18:49] <FloodBot1> xpress: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:49] <vafied_> yes but what was the complete name of that mysql ?
[18:50] <anurag> i dont know
[18:50] <vafied_> anurag:  do you have the tutorial that you used ?
[18:50] <anurag> where it is
[18:50] <recon69_lap> lordjj ; that look like a nic without a connection
[18:50] <christofer> tsaknorris: Seems like you have to use iTunnel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#iTunnel and then use ssh to log in on the device.
[18:50] <jcook_5xdata> anurag, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart what the output
[18:51] <xpress> lordjj: well ? ^^
[18:51] <lordjj> xpress, can't say I'm sure :P
[18:51] <anurag> this is output sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found
[18:51] <mr_daniel> Upstart executes all jobs in /etc/init at boot-time. The first event emitted is 'startup'. Is there a tools which prints a semi-ordered graph to see which job starts another job? I want to understand the boot order of jobs to debug a small problem-.
[18:52] <xpress> lordjj: nothing lets take a shot .. =)
[18:52] <vafied_> anurag: if you are in the server press the up arrow key and you will find the complete comand
[18:52] <tsaknorris> christofer,  yeah i can see that, but anyway lets go to that other problem... how i can open let say mp3 file what i move to my phone?
[18:52] <xpress> lordjj: i forgot to say that i try to replase ath9k for madwifi ...
[18:53] <anurag> i don't understand u
[18:53] <lordjj> xpress, did you do wlanconfig ath create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
[18:53] <vafied_> anurag: did you followed a tutorial to install mysql  ?
[18:53] <jcook_5xdata> anurag, i don't think you have mysql installed. sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[18:54] <kevinjeet> how do i determine which driver is responsible for a device node
[18:54] <vafied_> anurag: try as jcook_5xdata says
[18:54] <christofer> tsaknorris: you have rhytmbox?
[18:55] <recon69_lap> kevinjeet: lshw
[18:55] <GRMrGecko> h00k: The only things that upgraded was LibreOffice, ure, uno-libs3, tzdata, and libgksu2-0
[18:55] <GRMrGecko> Do you see anything that might cause a problem like that?
[18:56] <tsaknorris> christofer,  yeah i will use it...thank..
[18:56] <Marchitos> i have a little problem with kubuntu
[18:56] <Marchitos> it don't want to accept the root password
[18:56] <Marchitos> i've changed it from level 1
[18:56] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, does this include leds and such?
[18:56] <Marchitos> konsole recognizes it
[18:56] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, and backlights?
[18:57] <Marchitos> gui application no ( like packagekit)
[18:57] <aluchko> is there an easy way to add your own packages to your home directory?
[18:58] <recon69_lap> kevinjeet; you mean for the lights in your box ? dough it.
[18:58] <aluchko> it looks like I can do dpkg -i --force-not-root --root=$HOME package.deb, and install the packages relative to ~
[18:59] <aluchko> but it still seems like a pain to track and download the proper package, isn't there something just down download the package to my home dir? I supposed I'll need to apt-get source and rebuild it but I was hoping for an easier way
[18:59] <LytesOfDawn> Guys
[18:59] <LytesOfDawn> I need help
[18:59] <LytesOfDawn> I'm trying to install a new desktop enviroment
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> So how do I get rid of my old one?
[19:00] <xpress> lordjj: no .. how should i do that :)
[19:00] <nyvaken> Guys, which one do you prefer. irssi or XChat?
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> I have all the packags for the new desktop enviroment
[19:00] <crud_> hello its me crud ball
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> so how do I get rid of my old one/
[19:00] <recon69_lap> LytesOfDawn: depends how you install, normally you just format over the old one
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> well yeah
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> I found all the packages
[19:00] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, dough it? a) my laptop's screen brightness wont change... even writing to /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video*/brightness
[19:00] <Jordan_U> scorinitron: You're welcome.
[19:01] <LytesOfDawn> but I cant install them in terminal
[19:01] <LytesOfDawn> It says default = all
[19:01] <lordjj> xpress, see the Examples section on the bottom of this page: http://linux.die.net/man/8/wlanconfig
[19:01] <anurag> thank u sir its running
[19:01] <LytesOfDawn> so how do I install all at once?
[19:01] <anurag> good sir
[19:01] <oCean> nyvaken: matter of personal preference, please dont take polls
[19:01] <anurag> thank u
[19:01] <LytesOfDawn> so what do I do/
[19:01] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, and b) the keyboard lights
[19:01] <tbruff13> hey does anyone know if ibm viavoice can be used in libreoffice
[19:01] <vafied_> anurag: for connect use mysql -uroot -p
[19:01] <xpress> lordjj: no :D w8 i did it /wlanconfig ath create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta/ but shows me that (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device):P
[19:02] <anurag> <vafied can u give me ur email
[19:02] <GRMrGecko> how can I find logs that can help you find this issue and fix it?
[19:02] <recon69_lap> kevinjeet have you added the brightness applet to your toolbar
[19:03] <anurag> thanks vafied it really works
[19:04] <xpress> lordjj : well ?
[19:04] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, nope, how does one do that?
[19:04] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, im new to unity
[19:04] <lordjj> xpress, ifconfig only shows that u have eth0. Do u have a wifi device connected?
[19:05] <xpress> lordjj: no..
[19:05] <lordjj> xpress, isn't that what this's all about... wifi...
[19:06] <xpress> lordjj: i look  iwconfig and it shows that there is no eth0 neither lo
[19:06] <lordjj> xpress, it's not working because there's no "wifi0" device then
[19:06] <xpress> lordjj: so what i do ?
[19:07] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, i also get $ xbacklight -get
[19:07] <kevinjeet> No outputs have backlight property
[19:07] <phibxr> Is there any way to monitor the sync progress in % using Ubuntu One?
[19:07] <lordjj> xpress, connect a wifi adapter to use? :P
[19:07] <auronandace> xpress: you are trying to use wifi WITHOUT a wifi card?
[19:07] <dmsuperman> How can I configure unity 2d's wall?
[19:07] <RobotBot> do we know if 11.10 will be available at midnight?
[19:07] <xpress> lordjj: i am with laptop and it has wifi :P
[19:07] <Atreus> why si there no option to change the screen brightness while on battery inpower management?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> RobotBot: midnight depends on the timezone you're in
[19:08] <lordjj> xpress, how come its not showing in ifconfig 0o
[19:08] <madmax_> xpress: is the wifi adapter built in?
[19:08] <mr_daniel> When I boot my Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, which component does setup my RAID1 configuration? I am curious about this, because I couldn't find a single call to 'mdadm' in the startup-scripts in /etc/init/, which are executed by Upstart. But I know that mdadm is the tool usually used to create and manage RAIDs
[19:08] <nickolas> i am having trobles with ugly plymouth using nvidia drivers
[19:08] <RobotBot> I'm in eastern MonkeyDust
[19:08] <mr_daniel> Is it maybe possible that the Kernel creates and loade the RAIDs?
[19:08] <xpress> madmax_ yes..
[19:09] <nickolas> i use jockey to install the latest drivers from x-swat
[19:09] <tbruff13>  
[19:09] <nickolas> then i use a script called "fixplymouth-natty" to fix plymouth and grub screens
[19:09] <mr_daniel> I want to understand how RAIDs are setup in Linux, so I can quickly repair my system if anythin bad happens. And understand the boot-process is one port of this
[19:09] <mr_daniel> s/post/part
[19:09] <dmsuperman> How can I configure unity 2d?
[19:10] <nickolas> problem is, it eventually stops booting, hanging at the Kubuntu screen with five white dots
[19:10] <cypha> anyone using xterm?
[19:11] <madmax_> xpress: what make/model pc?
[19:11] <xpress> madmax_: packard bell
[19:11] <lordjj> xpress, what does iwconfig wlan0 give?
[19:13] <madmax_> xpress: model number?
[19:13] <jjunior> can anynone help me with nvidia proprietary and plymouth on ubuntu 11.04?
[19:15] <cypha> will this work in ubuntu? http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2008/05/how-to-paste-in-cygwin-bash-using-ctrl/
[19:15] <libscout__> is there a way to make GRUB automatically load a selection on reboot?
[19:15] <asterfish> question. if i am running off a live cd, is it possible to eject the live cd, pop in a blank disc and burn to it?
[19:15] <kevinjeet> xbacklight says no outputs have the backlight property.... is that a driver issue
[19:15] <AlReece45> mr_daniel: Upstart needs the root filesystem mounted before it runs. If your root filesystem is managed by mdadm, the scripts to mount it will be under /usr/share/initramfs-tools (these are used to generate the initramfs that's used by your system). Otherwise, it seems to use the classic sysd format, so you should see it in /etc/rc?.d/*mdadm*
[19:15] <madmax_> asterfish: if you have loaded the whole thing into ram at boot
[19:16] <AlReece45> mr_daniel: I don't use mdadm, but it does the same thing for LVM
[19:16]  * Companion devours mcveat
[19:17] <scorinitron> I'm trying to get Tor installed and running properly but it's driving me insane
[19:17] <kevinjeet> scorinitron, ive always just used tor browser bundle
[19:18] <scorinitron> How do you get it installed
[19:18] <oCean> !tor | scorinitron
[19:18] <Surkow|laptop> hmm, guys the proper place to go for wireless issues?
[19:19] <kevinjeet> scorinitron, https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
[19:19] <scorinitron> kevinjeet, so how would I go about trying to install it...
[19:20] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: what is your issue
[19:20] <kevinjeet> scorinitron, i just sent u a link... theres no install, just download and extract
[19:20] <scorinitron> Kevinjeet, thanks man...
[19:21] <Surkow|laptop> madmax_, since three weeks I can no longer make use of my wireless internet. Ethernet works fine. Wireless connects fine with at least four networks. In Windows and with a bootable ubuntu usb live disk internet works without hassles
[19:21] <Surkow|laptop> but I'm not planning on reinstalling my OS during exam time
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> I properly receive an IP via dhcp
[19:22] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: are you using a network manager to connect, or the cli?
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> but I can't ping
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> network manager
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> so, no network issues
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> just a problem with network manager
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> and no hardware issues
[19:23] <madmax_> can you ping your gateway ip?
[19:23] <Surkow|laptop> hmm
[19:23] <Surkow|laptop> I'm part of two networks
[19:23] <Surkow|laptop> how can I ping the second network?
[19:23] <Battlecat> Hello. I was wondering if there is a real advantage to using Ubuntu 64 bit version over the 32 bit version. I was just given a desktop Dell with an AMD 64 in it.
[19:24] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: can you explain more, 2 networks?
[19:24] <Surkow|laptop> a simple sweex router for ethernet
[19:24] <Surkow|laptop> connected to my own cable modem
[19:24] <Surkow|laptop> and my housemates access point
[19:25] <Surkow|laptop> he has his own cable connection
[19:25] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: so you are cabled to one, and trying to wifi to the other?
[19:25] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:25] <Surkow|laptop> it has worked fine since forever
[19:25] <Surkow|laptop> I can just remove the ethernet connection
[19:26] <MrTAToad> Hello!
[19:26] <Surkow|laptop> and I can still use internet normally
[19:26] <GRMrGecko>  can this error cause everything to freeze except for the work space switcher? http://pastebin.com/6NTwLEfa
[19:26] <recon69_lap> Battlecat: think the biggest consideration is memory, over 4gb and definitely go 64bit
[19:26] <dmsuperman> How can I configure unity 2d?
[19:26] <MrTAToad> How long does it take to get an application reviewed in Ubuntu One ?
[19:26] <Patriot7912> How do i make samba part of the domain?
[19:26] <Surkow|laptop> simply said madmax_ - I can connect to any wireless network, receive an IP
[19:26] <Surkow|laptop> (or maybe I'm wrong about that)
[19:27] <Surkow|laptop> and still not ping any website
[19:27] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: are you using the computer to chat now?
[19:27] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> from trying to kill nm-applet to using some ubuntu script to check for connection issues
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> it seems it should work fine
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> but no packages are transmitted
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> aside form the communication between the router and my wireless card
[19:28] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: usually, when I plug in my network cable, the ethernet takes over, changing the routing table.
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> and it has always worked for over 3.5 years
[19:30] <vafied_> any user of a laptop with docking port ?
[19:30] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: what ip address does your wifi get?
[19:30] <reachingperfecti> is ubuntu releasing on 13 oct ober or not ?
[19:30] <Patriot7912> How do you make samba a member of a domain
[19:30] <Surkow> 192.168.1.102, madmax_
[19:30] <Battlecat> Is there any way to tell if a USB Wireless thumb will work with the 64 bit ubuntu 11.04 or higher?
[19:30] <Surkow> turned on my desktop
[19:30] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: and your eth
[19:30] <madmax_> ?
[19:30] <Surkow> 192.168.2.1
[19:30] <Surkow> two different networks
[19:31] <crash1hd> hmm I have a drive mounted as fat16 EFI and when I try to do sudo chown root:root /media/EFI I get Operation not permited?
[19:31] <Surkow> it currently uses ethernet, I'll pull the plug to ping hte gateway
[19:31] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: what does the routing table look like?
[19:32] <vafied_> any user of a laptop with docking port ?
[19:32] <Surkow|laptop> no, but I've had to support my share of windows users with docking ports
[19:32] <Surkow|laptop> ;)
[19:33] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: nice but i am having problems when docking and undocking on linux
[19:33] <Surkow|laptop> madmax_, did you receive the query?
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> vafied_, could have been a hardware issue
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> :)
[19:34] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: working as support or sys admin ?
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> both
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> well
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> that was some time ago
[19:34] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop:  thin is something about gnome because i can do that using kde with no problem
[19:34] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: yes, try without the cable in, but disconnect and reconnect to the wifi after pulling the cable
[19:34] <dmsuperman> How can I configure unity 2d?
[19:34] <Atreus> why am i unable to change the screen birghtness percentage while on battery power though the power management?
[19:35] <rodd> Hi
[19:35] <vafied_> Hi
[19:35] <rodd> I have ubuntu 11 on a sony vaio laptop and am having trouble setting the screen brightness
[19:35] <jason_> Question - what exactly does this refer to? ubuntu-ltsp01 dhcpd: DHCPNAK on 192.168.100.20 to 00:0a:95:81:74:17 via eth0. It's looping continually in my syslog.
[19:35] <rodd> does anyone have any idea of how can I overcome this?
[19:35] <Surkow|laptop> vafied_:what goes wrong exactly?
[19:35] <Surkow|laptop> madmax_, same thing
[19:35] <rodd> im getting blind here
[19:35] <rodd> so brighty
[19:36] <vafied_> screen goes black but everything still working
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> or was I too fast?
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> hmm
[19:36] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: did the routing table change?
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> gnome switches to the most recently attached monitor
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> same thing happens with my kvm switch
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> no, madmax_
[19:36] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: i can make everything works fine if i restart x server but that kill my session
[19:36] <gleydson> hello someone can help  me?
[19:37] <gleydson> i've a simple question
[19:37] <vafied_> gleydson: ask
[19:37] <Surkow|laptop> vafied_, that's actually a common problem for me
[19:37] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: if the routing table didn't change, then that is why you cannot ping/connect
[19:37] <Surkow|laptop> hmmm
[19:37] <gleydson> i want to use my webcam with windows users but when i connect they dnt see nothing
[19:37] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: i tried using a script that changes betwen to x conf files
[19:37] <gleydson> i've ubuntu 10.04
[19:37] <usr13> gleydson: What application?
[19:38] <gleydson> emesene
[19:38] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: check the nm, make sure things are set to auto, and no manual stuff is set
[19:38] <gleydson> but i've tried with amsn too and dnt work
[19:38] <gleydson> has any solution?
[19:38] <reachingperfecti> when is ubuntu 11.10 releasing ?
[19:38] <vafied_> reachingperfecti: tomorrow
[19:38] <Surkow|laptop> madmax_, everything is correct
[19:39] <Surkow|laptop> nothing has changed since the wireless stopped working
[19:39] <Surkow|laptop> I'm running out of ideas
[19:39] <recon69_lap> gleydson: i take it your camera works fine when you test it locally
[19:39] <auronandace> reachingperfecti: read the topic
[19:39] <Surkow|laptop> what can stop the routing table from updating?
[19:39] <gleydson> yes
[19:39] <gleydson> i test with cheese too and works fine
[19:39] <SetiAmon> is there a exact time when 11.10 will be released will it be released after midnight or what
[19:40] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop:  whats the problem with madmax_ ?
[19:40] <Surkow|laptop> I have the issue ;)
[19:40] <Surkow|laptop> some routing table issues. Wifi connects, but I can't ping
[19:40] <Surkow|laptop> external sites
[19:40] <usr13> SetiAmon: They release it when they release it.
[19:41] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: route -n   #See if it is your router's IP.
[19:41] <madmax_> vafied_: he is using networkmanager to connect to 2 networks, a cabled and a wifi. 2  different subnets.  when he unpluges the cable, and tries to just connect wifi, the routing table does not change
[19:41] <gleydson> someone has any idea or a alternative?
[19:41] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #See if you have valid nameserver, (probably your routers IP will be first because it has caching nameserver).
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> hmm, let me check
[19:42] <gleydson> to sugest me
[19:42] <recon69_lap> gleydson: skype?
[19:42] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Can you ping the router?
[19:42] <vafied_> madmax_: gonna sound silly but did you try dhclient ?
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> nameserver 192.168.2.1
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> nameserver 62.133.126.28
[19:42] <gleydson> no one online xD
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> seems like all the networks I connected to
[19:43] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: What is your router's IP?
[19:43] <Surkow|laptop> 2.1
[19:43] <Surkow|laptop> the top one
[19:43] <gleydson> but on my computer works fine
[19:43] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: can you ping 2.1?
[19:43] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:43] <madmax_> vafied_: I have not had him try that ye
[19:43] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: route -n   #See if it is your router's IP.
[19:43] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:43] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: host av.com
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> av.com?
[19:44] <vafied_> madmax_:  but he wants some specific configurations instead of the dhcp server ones ?
[19:44] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: host av.com
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> ah
[19:44] <usr13> Does it resolv?
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> but I'm chatting right now
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> :P
[19:44] <usr13> Ok good.
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> so ethernet works
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> I logged in with a second computer
[19:45] <Surkow|laptop> (without the laptop)
[19:45] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Well, you have to actually work on the computer that is broken before you can hope to fix it.
[19:45] <Surkow|laptop> just so I can unplug the ethernet cable from time to time to test
[19:45] <vafied_> offtopic really groove salad is a great radio station
[19:45] <madmax_> vafied_: he wants to switch between cabled and wifi, and it stuck with the routing for the cable
[19:45] <h00k> vafied_: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatter
[19:46] <Companion> h00k, there is an app for that
[19:46] <vafied_> hooch: ok ok but don't mind U_U
[19:46] <Surkow|laptop> http://pastebin.com/BU24iw8m
[19:46] <Surkow|laptop> output of host av
[19:46] <Surkow|laptop> so that works
[19:46] <MacGyverNL> I want to somehow fully restart the USB subsystem of a machine, however, usbcore on ubuntu is a kernel builtin rather than a module, so rmmod usbcore is not going to cut it. Is there any other way to do this?
[19:46] <vafied_> h00k: ok ok but don't mind U_U
[19:46] <Companion> wtf 2 h00k's on different servers? o.0
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> MacGyverNL: what sort of usb device is it?
[19:47] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: If that is from the computer you are working on, looks like you are good to go.  If it is not, it is irelevant.
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> yes, it's the laptop that is troubled
[19:47] <h00k> Companion: no, one server. multiple channels
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> but the moment I disconnect my ethernet
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> and switch to wireless
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> any wireless network
[19:47] <usr13> *irrelevant
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> at work, university, family
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> or at home
[19:47] <MacGyverNL> ActionParsnip: No device. The entire usb subsystem. As in, the usbcore module. But in Ubuntu it's not a module.
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> I connect properly, but can't use internet
[19:48] <Companion> h00k, no one dude @ Quakenet asked me a question about android and linux and typed h0<tab> here and send the message to the wrong guy :')
[19:48] <auronandace> !enter | Surkow|laptop
[19:48] <h00k> Surkow|laptop: please keep your things on one line, it makes it easier to follow
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> MacGyverNL: true but if you remove then reload the driver for the usb device specifically it may work
[19:48] <h00k> Companion: ah, different guy. I claim he's stealing my name, or something.
[19:48] <Companion> lol h00k
[19:48] <MacGyverNL> ActionParsnip: I tried this, removing usbserial and pl2303.
[19:48] <MacGyverNL> No dice.
[19:48] <Surkow|laptop> hmm, I guess that's only logical in a busy channel as this. But I can take a hint.
[19:49] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: iwconfig   #Will tell you information about the wireless device and it's status.  Otherwise, use the network-manager to see what you can or can't connect to in the way of WiFi APs.
[19:49] <MacGyverNL> ActionParsnip: Maybe I'm missing a module though. The device is a towitoko usb smart card reader, under ubuntu 10.04.
[19:49] <MacGyverNL> It is detected the first time after boot.
[19:50] <madmax_> urs13: he connects, the routing table does not change
[19:50] <MacGyverNL> Then, if I unplug it, it is subsequently not handled correctly anymore.
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> MacGyverNL: run: lsmod    see if anything jumps out
[19:50] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: did you tried a dhclient  ?
[19:51] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, I can connect. http://pastebin.com/nQ7miYDX
[19:53] <Surkow> hmmm
[19:55] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Is it working?  host av.com
[19:56] <usr13> Surkow: if not,  try    dhclient wlan0
[19:56] <usr13> Surkow: if not,  try   sudo dhclient wlan0
[19:57] <Surkow> usr13, it seems to do something
[19:58] <Surkow> dhclient did make it work...but rather strange
[19:58] <xpress> can anybody help me a little =) ?
[19:58] <madmax_> Surkow: did the routing table change?
[19:58] <Surkow> yes it did
[19:58] <GNU\colossus> does upstart in ubuntu 10.04 still honor /etc/rc.local?
[19:59] <mang0> I'm trying to screen record with ffmpeg, but am failing badly...anyone know how to do this? Need video and sound. Thanks.
[19:59] <crash1hd> ok I removed udisks from my system and downloaded the tar from an older version how do I install it?
[19:59] <Surkow> but only after forcefully using sudo dhclient and waiting for a bit and disconnecting the cable. I'll link the resulting table
[19:59] <mang0> !ask | xpress
[19:59] <Jordan_U> GNU\colossus: Yes.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> GNU\colossus: yes
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> GNU\colossus: add stuff above the exit 0 line and it will run as root (unless you add su goodness)
[20:01] <GNU\colossus> yup, I know that. stoooooopid me forgot to set the shellscript I mentioned there eXecutable though ;)
[20:01] <jon__> i recently installed ndiswrapper and my wireless device but when running iwconfig i cant see my device and when i run modprobe ndiswrapper it gives me an error that say FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found how do i fix this lol
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> GNU\colossus: d'oh ;)
[20:02] <xpress> ubottu: thanks i didn't know =)
[20:02] <xpress> :D
[20:02] <Surkow> madmax_, usr13 http://pastebin.com/wgjFvUFT
[20:03] <bucaneiro> ubottu: you look smart
[20:04] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: what is in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:04] <Surkow> auto lo, and then something about ethernet
[20:04] <Surkow> let me check
[20:04] <xpress> so .. i was trying to install madwifi but i have this problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) when i try to put (xpress@xpress:~$ wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta) .. can anybody helps =)
[20:05] <Surkow> madmax_, auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[20:06] <madmax_> Surkow: and in network manager, is everything for eth0 set to auto? also, when was the last time it was rebooted?
[20:06] <bucaneiro> claro.net.br ? i know this guy
[20:06] <undecim> Does anyone know of a command that can pad a text file with spaces to a certain width?
[20:06] <brentw> Hi there. I'm using 11.04 and have started using the AWM dock. I'm trying to remove the main gnome panel, but I've not having any luck.
[20:06] <socket> hello, just install ubuntu server, during the installation i did not install any specific service. does it come with apache installed?
[20:07] <undecim> socket: No, you will have to install apache yourself if you want it
[20:07] <jrib> socket: not if you did not ask for it
[20:07] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> brentw: You mean the Thick ubuntu bar on the right? I don't think you can get rid of that
[20:07] <undecim> socket: sudo apt-get install lamp-server, I think will install apache, php, mysql
[20:07] <Surkow> I reboot every day. eth0 has automatic for everything
[20:07] <Isumi> 4th time just visiting the google home page crashes my X server -_-
[20:07] <Surkow> except for the mac address it seems
[20:08] <undecim> 11.04 has unity, right?
[20:08] <Surkow> yes
[20:08] <madmax_> Surkow: what if you disable the wired connection
[20:08] <undecim> I don't think you can remove the bar with unity...
[20:08] <alexsandr> :(
[20:08] <Surkow> or simply remove it? I suppose it'll get recreated, right?
[20:08] <undecim> Now with ubuntu-classic, you can remove it
[20:08] <Jordan_U> libscout__: Yes. See the utilities grub-reboot and grub-set-default utilities. You'll need GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub.
[20:08] <madmax_> just try to disable
[20:08] <brentw> MAREK_BENC_NetB, that's unity. I'm using classic though. which is regular gnome
[20:09] <undecim> brentw: oh, if you're using classic, it's easy
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> undecim: Ubuntu comes with Unity2D instead of Ubuntu Classic
[20:09] <Surkow> madmax_, if I disconnect my ethernet the wireless keeps working
[20:09] <socket> this ubuntu box is going to be a local web dev box, running httpd & mysql & php. any reason i should use xttpd/dhttpd/thttpd instead of apache ?
[20:09] <Surkow> dhclient did seem to fix it
[20:09] <jrib> socket: no
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> undecim: in Oneiric, that is
[20:09] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> brentw: Right click and remove panel doesn't work?
[20:09] <libscout__> Jordan_U: thanks... i actually figured it out... bad reboot caused boot screen\
[20:10] <Surkow> I'll try a reboot. :)
[20:10] <brentw> undecim, Where should I be looking? i've removed all settings that specify gnome-panel as the default panel
[20:10] <krisss117> hi, i need some app to recover my files from USB drive
[20:10] <madmax_> i am wondering why the wired connection still had the route info
[20:10] <undecim> brentw: I forget the key you have to change in gconf, but I wrote about it on my blog a while back... gimme a minute to find it
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: foremost works well
[20:10] <jrib> socket: wel I'd suggest just using whatever will be used in production
[20:10] <koaja> Hello.
[20:10] <socket> thanks
[20:10] <Jordan_U> libscout__: You're welcome.
[20:10] <undecim> brentw: http://blog.undecim.org/replace-gnome-panel-with-avant-window-navigator-or-any-other-dock/
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: or scalpel. Backups will definately be the best option
[20:10] <brentw> undecim, Changing the key doesn't seem to work. I've tried that, gnome-panle still appears. :(
[20:11] <undecim> brentw: Which key?
[20:11] <brentw> undecim: the exact one you specify in your blog
[20:11] <krisss117> thank's
[20:12] <brentw> I've made that change, but the panel still loads
 i am wondering why the wired connection still had the route info
[20:12] <Surkow> hmm, I can only add new connections or remove them
[20:13] <undecim> brentw: It must be as ActionParsnip said then. You're using unity2D instead of Gnome
[20:13] <koaja> Im trying to mount a Server via SSHFS on my PC. It works and i can see the files from the server. But i cant save edited files! Over a console with ssh it is possible, but i cant edit the files of the mountet path. Has someone a idea?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> undecim: unity2d can run on gnome, it doesn't replace it :)
[20:14] <koaja> i cant find the problem.
[20:14] <brentw> undecim, it's not unity though. it's just a regular gnome-panel
[20:14] <xpress>  so .. i was trying to install madwifi but i have this problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) when i try to put (xpress@xpress:~$ wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta) .. can anybody helps =)
[20:15] <brentw> I can killall it and it just reloads on me
[20:15] <xpress> ^^
[20:17] <madmax_> Surkow: did you reboot?
[20:17] <Surkow> madmax_, usr13 - it seems to perform correctly, even after a reboot. So for some reason the routing table is properly updated now
[20:17] <Surkow> yes
[20:17] <Surkow> it still works
[20:17]  * alexsandr is listening to "Зачем?" by Ginex feat. Новое Время [, 0]
[20:17] <madmax_> nice
[20:17] <undecim> brentw: Well, you could just rename the gnome-panel binary so nothing can find it.
[20:17] <undecim> brentw: You might have to do that every time it's updated, though.
[20:17] <Surkow> I suppose the routing table should lose the 2.1 destination in route -n after disconnection eth0?
[20:17] <undecim> brentw: Or actually, just make it non-executable
[20:18] <madmax_> Surkow: yes, if in auto, it should update upon a network change
[20:18] <Surkow> madmax_, it loses the 2.1
[20:18] <Surkow> awesome :D
[20:19] <Surkow> plugging it in shows it again. I suppose dhclient does not affect nm directly, right? So this wasn't a network manager problem.
[20:19] <brentw> undecim: That might be my only option. I just don't understand what's forcing it to reload. It just seems so strange
[20:19] <madmax_> the dhclient was just a one time command. it's what network manager does when you change a setting
[20:19] <Surkow> simply asking for a new dhcp ip with dhclient solved all the issues
[20:19] <Surkow> oh
[20:20] <Surkow> I  haven' t changed any settings in nm
[20:20] <undecim> brentw: I'll see if I can coerce some functionality out of VirtualBox and mess around with it (I'm on Arch, currently)
[20:20] <madmax_> Surkow: for what ever reason, nm was not seeing the change when you unplugged the cable
[20:20] <Surkow> magic, I got it ;)
[20:20] <Surkow> thanks for the support guys
[20:21] <madmax_> Surkow: or it saw it, and hung up doing something for it
[20:21] <brentw> undecim, Cool. I will try a few more things. If I have a result I'll let you know. ;)
[20:21] <Surkow> lets see if it still works when I'll use a network with a certificate tomorrow
[20:21] <Malgorath> i just installed ubuntu 11.04 and fully updated everything. but the max resolution my system is shwoing is 13xx by 768, my monitor is 1440 x 900 and my video card is an nvidia 210 which supports up to 1920x1080. when i check the additional drivers says its activated but not in use(nvidia driver)
[20:22] <guntbert> Malgorath: that might be one of the few cases to reboot you system after changing something
[20:23] <Malgorath> guntbert, it asked me to and i did already
[20:23] <mendota> opinions welcome: do you guys think a Ubuntu boot disk will have any more luck than an XP boot disk with a HDD problem that's throwing blue screens of death?
[20:23] <guntbert> Malgorath: then I don't know, sorry
[20:23] <opt1mus> mendota: can't harm to try.
[20:24] <undecim_> mendota: Neither one should be related to HDD problems
[20:24] <Malgorath> guntbert, np, thanks for suggesting something :)
[20:24] <mendota> opt1mus, undecim_ yeah, that's mostly what i was thinking
[20:24] <opt1mus> mendota: I had BSoD with an XP system, and booted Linux no problem.
[20:25] <mendota> but, it'd be nice not to have to completely dismantle this laptop to change out its corrupted/virused? HDD
[20:25] <koaja> Im trying to mount a Server via SSHFS on my PC. It works and i can see the files from the server. But i cant save edited files! Over a console with ssh it is possible, but i cant edit the files of the mountet path. Has someone a idea?
[20:25] <opt1mus> mendota: It was related to me messing with a flashfire program.
[20:25] <undecim_> mendota: What problems are you having booting an XP disc?
[20:25] <Malgorath> koaja, permissions are not set right
[20:25] <osu_> hello
[20:26] <mendota> undecim_ well, i've got this vaio that's got no boot screen and it hangs after the XP disk tries to run its installation program
[20:26] <koaja> Malgorath, how should the be?
[20:26] <mendota> undecim_ i get the feeling there might be more wrong than the HDD, but i'm willing to test a couple of avenues first.
[20:26] <Surkow|laptop> byes
[20:26] <opt1mus> mendota: Have you recently installed new RAM or any other changes?
[20:26] <undecim_> mendota: At what point does it hang? Before it even loads the install part, or while the installation is running?
[20:26] <tacomaster> does anyone know how to automate a command when a usb device is plugged in what i have so far is a bash script with the command and a line is the visudo file "%admin ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/iwconfig" but i dont want to have to click every time i plug in the device
[20:27] <ubuntu_> k
[20:27] <mendota> undecim_ it gets most of its drivers set up
[20:27] <opt1mus> oh
[20:27] <koaja> Malgorath, the premissions of the server or my local server?
[20:27] <osu_> i have problem with ubuntu like this : cant run it from 1st  usb hdd makes my pc into restart loop, cantu run it from second usb hdd black screen nothing happens, cant frun it from pendrive, cant get good vga driver i have splitted screen made from bars hard to explain, any suggestions ?
[20:27] <mendota> undecim_ and then it stops with an error screen
[20:27] <opt1mus> mendota: code?
[20:27] <mendota> undecim_ claims i should run chkdsk on the hdd
[20:27] <Polah> tacomaster, look up udev rules
[20:27] <Malgorath> koaja, could be either
[20:27] <mendota> undecim_ let's see...should be in my search history...
[20:27] <undecim_> mendota: Yeah, that sounds like a hardware issue
[20:28] <glassresistor> need help from someone outside the US with firebug/web console installed, will take 2sec
[20:28] <osu_> so them will someone help ? :)
[20:28] <osu_> then*
[20:28] <mendota> undecim_ it's a stop code: "stop 0x0000007b"
[20:28] <tacomaster> Polah: ok ty
[20:28] <guntbert> glassresistor: that seem hardly like an ubuntu support question?
[20:29] <guntbert> *seems
[20:29] <osu_> no one will help newbie like me ? :(
[20:29] <undecim_> mendota: Yeah. See if the Ubuntu CD gets anywhere
[20:29] <guntbert> !please | osu_
[20:29] <mendota> undecim_ okay. i hope it works. it's this used/refurbish my dad picked up...so, i'm crossing all my fingers, lol
[20:30] <osu_> or maybe is there some linux distro that already is using kvm virtualization and can be launched from pendrive ?
[20:30] <swick> how comes that my /etc/bash_completion.d/ is nearly empty? I've installed aptitude but it does not show up there.
[20:31] <glassresistor> guntbert: very off-topic alopogies but don't know of a #outside-the-us-with-console-log
[20:31] <Malgorath> here is my bug report for nvidia activate but not in use, anyone able to help out? http://pastebin.com/n82pVU1x
[20:31] <undecim_> mendota: If it doesn't work, then try a new HDD. If that doesn't work, then it's the mobo, and that's generally more expensive than just selling off the working parts of the laptop and buying a newly refurbished one.
[20:31] <mendota> undecim_ okay. that's good to know
[20:31] <guntbert> glassresistor: try #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[20:31] <mendota> undecim_ i'm just avoiding the HDD replacement...because it's going to be a pain cracking that case
[20:32] <mendota> undecim_ but there's 4 good gigs of laptop RAM i could salvage :D
[20:32] <undecim_> mendota: Usually the HDD is 1-4 screws away... Is sony THAT bad at making things?
[20:32] <koaja> Malgorath, how can i detect it?
[20:33] <Fuchs> Malgorath: invalid EDID
[20:33] <Fuchs> Malgorath: either try to get a valid EDID for your monitor, or specifiy the allowed resolutions manually,
[20:33] <mendota> undecim_ well, there's no obvious access
[20:33] <Fuchs> Malgorath: e.g. with X Server modelines.
[20:33] <mendota> undecim_ like my toshiba has two panels that you just open one screw for the primary/secondary hdd
[20:34] <jrib> swick: do you have the package "bash-completion" installed?
[20:34] <glassresistor> guntbert: thanks, again apologies
[20:35] <undecim_> while true; do mv head desk/; mv desk/head ./; done
[20:35] <Malgorath> Fuchs, ugh haven't done those in many a moon. how would i get a valid edid?
[20:35] <Fuchs> Malgorath: do you have by chance windows on that machine?
[20:36] <Fuchs> for some unknwon reasons the driver there is a bit less picky, and you could use it to dump the EDID to a file, which can be fed to the linux driver with the UseCustomEDID Option
[20:36] <vafied_> is there a spanish ubuntu channel ?
[20:36] <Ntemis> hi
[20:36] <Malgorath> fuchs i have the same monitor on another computer with windows 7 if that helps but this box is linux only
[20:36] <Ntemis> i need your expert help on a gbit lan firmware upgrade for a server eq
[20:36] <osu_> my pc wont run ubuntu why ? i get black screen, split junk screen,
[20:36] <swick> jrib: no.
[20:37] <Ntemis> is a script from hp than updates the firmware on my nic but ubuntu is not supported
[20:37] <Fuchs> oh, Malgorath, wait
[20:37] <xpress> somebody can fix that wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device ?
[20:37] <Fuchs> Malgorath: you set this resolution by yourself in the xorg.conf
[20:37] <jrib> swick: you probably want it :)
[20:37] <Ntemis> Red HAt or Suse
[20:37] <Fuchs> Malgorath: Option         "metamodes" "1360x768 +0+0"  <<
[20:37] <Ntemis> will it work on my server?
[20:37] <Malgorath> with nvidia settings
[20:37] <opt1mus> osu_: Are you currently running anything that does work?
[20:37] <Malgorath> Fuchs, i used the nvidia settings but that was the highest it would go
[20:37] <osu_> windows ?
[20:37] <swick> jrib: yeah, thats it. forgot to logout and in again. thanks
[20:38] <madmax_> xpress: can you show me the output of iwconfig
[20:38] <xpress> madmax_: second
[20:38] <Ntemis> here is the link of it
[20:38] <Ntemis> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=329290&prodSeriesId=3811480&swItem=MTX-7d1cb598f6c747eeb02ccdd759&prodNameId=3811481&swEnvOID=4006&swLang=8&taskId=135&mode=3
[20:38] <opt1mus> osu_: is it only via usb that you've tried running ubuntu? Or have you tried via CD/DVD or perhaps different distros?
[20:38] <osu_> its hard to explain i get or black screen with this symbol _ and mouse cursor sometimes or i get really junky screen that looks like 2 desktops that are cut to straps
[20:39] <osu_> when i try to run from cd i get reboot loop
[20:39] <Ntemis> and the executable is: CP014347.scexe
[20:39] <Ntemis> will it work or i will destroy my nic?
[20:39] <osu_> when i try to run from pendrive i get that junk screes if its from hdd i get black screen really strange
[20:39] <Fuchs> Malgorath: then that might be due to the driver not be able to read the EDID
[20:39] <osu_> it is as it cant recognize my vga
[20:39] <xpress> madmax_: lo        no wireless extensions.
[20:39] <xpress> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[20:39] <xpress> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"THOMSON"
[20:39] <xpress>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:1E:69:1D:42:8B
[20:39] <xpress>           Bit Rate=48 Mb/s   Tx-Power=16 dBm
[20:39] <xpress>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[20:40] <FloodBot1> xpress: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <opt1mus> osu_: have you tried another distro, or just ubuntu?
[20:40] <dork> Ntemis: i would be surprised if it created compat issues
[20:40] <osu_> only ubuntu as it says setting up kvm on it is super easy :)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> osu_: what gpu do you use?
[20:40] <LjL> xpress: please use the pastebin for pasting
[20:40] <madmax_> xpress: you can't paste it into the channel, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:40] <osu_> radeon 4850 and intel
[20:41] <osu_> i have i7 cpu so it have integrated gpu
[20:41] <Malgorath> Fuchs, so should i just edit the xorg and add 1440x900?
[20:41] <osu_> and 4850
[20:41] <xpress> sory for that i didnt know =) :P
[20:41] <xpress> i have linux from 2 days ^^
[20:41] <Ntemis> dork:because it only states rpm distros, i thought it my req an rmp package or something
[20:41] <cables_malo> hi, when i try and use the 11.04 livedisk it hangs after i load the GUI
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> osu_: oh, one of those dual gpu hybrid things?
[20:42] <dork> Ntemis: it's in a prolient machine?
[20:42] <Ntemis> yes
[20:42] <osu_> yup
[20:42] <Fuchs> Malgorath: you probably have to specify a modeline for that
[20:42] <opt1mus> ah.
[20:42] <dork> Ntemis: should be fine.
[20:42] <madmax_> xpress: we all start some where.  paste the output of iwconfig into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:42] <Fuchs> Malgorath: there are tools that generate them for you
[20:42] <xpress> http://pastebin.com/S9HmJV74
[20:42] <Malgorath> what are they called?\
[20:43] <Ntemis> dork: really hope so :)
[20:43] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/S9HmJV74
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> osu_: those are nothing but headache
[20:43] <Fuchs> Malgorath: gtf  is one
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> osu_: could try the boot option: nomodeset
[20:43] <osu_> well its not my fault that intel did put integrated gpu in cpu
[20:43] <opt1mus> osu_: perhaps a distro less obsolete will give more joy.
[20:43] <osu_> well i jsut want kvm virtualization
[20:43] <osu_> just*
[20:43] <cables_malo> who in here knows what will hang a live session?
[20:44] <osu_> hmmm ill try that nomodeset
[20:44] <xpress> madmax_: w8 i go WC ^^
[20:44] <extradessert> cables_malo: what is your system specs?
[20:44] <opt1mus> cables_malo: perhaps oom
[20:44] <madmax_> okay, it says that your wifi is associated with "THOMSON"
[20:44] <reisio> cables_malo: old hardware, bad burn, power fluctuation
[20:44] <osu_> any other suggestion before i reboot pc ? :)
[20:44] <dork> Ntemis: IMO you have a greater chance of having a conflict on redhat based systems but that's a an unkind bias opinion :P
[20:44] <cables_malo> reisio: puppy linux works perfect
[20:44] <opt1mus> osu_: try something with later kernel?
[20:45] <cables_malo> reisio: what about a boot option for rams or power options?
[20:45] <osu_> sorry im quite new into linux thingie
[20:45] <madmax_> xpress:are you using a standard ubuntu install with the gnome desktop?
[20:45] <reisio> cables_malo: or a BIOS option
[20:45] <osu_> i dont know what distro may have newer kernel
[20:45] <reisio> osu_: what're you up to?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> osu_: disable one of the GPUs if you can
[20:45] <opt1mus> osu_: ubuntu oneiric, just a stab in the dark really.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> osu_: Oneiric has a newer kernel, may help
[20:46] <cables_malo> reisio: but which one for Dell Latitude D820?
[20:46] <osu_> ok ill try that
[20:46] <reisio> you don't have to change distro to get a newer kernel
[20:46] <madmax_> xpress: are you using a standard ubuntu install with the gnome desktop?
[20:46] <trama> how to configure sound chipset alc888 realtek in Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:46] <trama> notebook gx660r
[20:46] <reisio> trama: something not working?
[20:46] <BarkingFish> !oneiric | trama
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> trama: ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:46] <opt1mus> reisio: I'm aware of that but osu_ can't initiate an install.
[20:47] <osu_> reisio i just want to try kvm virtualization as someone said it support native support for i/o os i tought i will be able to run windoews as guest and use all apps on native gpu
[20:47] <reisio> ah
[20:47] <reisio> to a certain extent I'm sure
[20:47] <xpress> madmax_: sry i said i was going to bayhroom
[20:47] <reisio> what apps did you have in mind?
[20:47] <osu_> well 3dsmax
[20:47] <xpress> madmax_: i am with xubuntu ...
[20:47] <osu_> maybe some games
[20:48] <xpress> madmax_: xfce i think but i have and gnom and KDE installed :D
[20:48] <madmax_> xpress: okay, show me ifconfig
[20:48] <madmax_> xpress: ifconfig -a
[20:48] <trama> reisi, sound only works on first boot after installation, then, no longer works, or the speaker or the headset
[20:49] <reisio> osu_: and you clared your proc for compatibility already?
[20:49] <reisio> trama: you check alsamixer for muted/low volume channels?
[20:49] <osu_> its i7 :) it will work
[20:49] <xpress> madmax_ : http://pastebin.com/kG96As67
[20:49] <trama> reisi, yes, but not mut...i checked
[20:49] <trama> reisi, I tried reinstalling alsa, added the ALC888 model in alsa-conf, but decided not too ... I looked on forums English, and French en
[20:50] <opt1mus> pulseaudio may do the trick.
[20:50] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/t3g6kNBS
[20:50] <trama> reisi, many people have problems with this chipset Realtek ALC888 HD, the sound is very good .. is not hardware issue, because the windows operate normally
[20:50] <reisio> trama: rei[TAB]
[20:51] <osu_> ok ill try that nomodeset ill be back if it wont work . Thanks for help and bye guys
[20:51] <cables_malo> guys, i have the same laptop as my friend and i have never had a livedisk hang like this. the only difference is that his has 533mhz rams.
[20:52] <reisio> cables_malo: try a USB stick instead
[20:52] <madmax_> xpress: those to post's show that you are connected to "THOMSON" wifi network with an ip of 192.168.0.13.  Is this what you want to be connected to?
[20:52] <reisio> trama: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=534070 maybe
[20:52] <trama> reisi, ?
[20:52] <cables_malo> you think its a cheap CD drive?
[20:52] <xpress> madmax_: yea ...
[20:52] <reisio> trama: type 'r', 'e', then 'i', then hit 'TAB'
[20:52] <reisio> cables_malo: never encountered an expensive one...
[20:53] <madmax_> xpress: then maybe I am unclear what you are trying to do
[20:53] <cables_malo> reisio, scsi 2X circa 1996?
[20:53] <reisio> cables_malo: but just the fundamental technology and process behind optical disc drives as we know them is inferior to solid state
[20:53] <cables_malo> well puppy is working, so you might be right
[20:53] <cables_malo> guess i can try the installer to disk?
[20:53] <cables_malo> from CDR?
[20:53] <xpress> madmax_: i just try to install madwifi .. and i have the problem (http://pastebin.com/t3g6kNBS) i really dont know what to do :/
[20:53] <reisio> cables_malo: ?
[20:53] <xpress> ops...
[20:54] <vafied_> any of you know a good sysadmin related book ?
[20:54] <xpress> madmax_:the problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device)
[20:54] <cables_malo> if the livesession doesnt work then do you think the install process will do the same thing?
[20:54] <trama> reisio, OK...i looking the forum...
[20:55] <xpress> reisio: hi ... can u help me now :D ..
[20:56] <cables_malo> reisio: i was using the toram option!
[20:56] <steel_> hi,just want to ask what size should i give to my /usr ,given that i have given 128 mb to /boot, 30 gb to /,and rest to /home.how much size should i cut from /home to give it to /usr?
[20:56] <reisio> cables_malo: ?
[20:56] <cables_malo> reisio: i was using the toram option!  ----- running from the rams
[20:57] <reisio> steel_: unless you mean to make it a different filesystem I wouldn't bother
[20:57] <reisio> cables_malo: why were you doing that
[20:57] <rww> steel_: You do realize you can just use one partition for everything, right? Splitting it up like that is a headache and runs the risk of you running out on room (especially on /boot, 128MB is tiny).
[20:57] <madmax_> xpress: what is the reason for using madwifi if you are connected now?
[20:57] <cables_malo> reisio: i always do that
[20:57] <cables_malo> reisio: hangs either way
[20:58] <reisio> rww: how much data do you have in /boot/ ?
[20:58] <reisio> cables_malo: ...
[20:58] <xpress> madmax_: when i am connected a times it just stops and i have to exit and enter again to the network .. that happens every 1-2 minutes ..
[20:58] <xpress> madmax_: and it works fine for 2 minutes and again ..
[20:59] <madmax_> xpress: show me dmesg |grep ath
[20:59] <steel_> rww and reisio , it's just that whenever i switch my distro i loose all my softwares.so i was just thinking creating a separate /usr will save me the trouble
[20:59] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/7mWiMW7d
[20:59] <rww> steel_: No, it'll cause you a lot of pain and package management issues.
[20:59] <scwizard_> I tried to sudo chown something
[21:00] <reisio> steel_: stop switching distros, that'll save you the trouble
[21:00] <default_|> UIbuntu br?
[21:00] <Andamio_Pizjuan> oniversochat.net
[21:00] <reisio> steel_: though it shouldn't be hard to generate a list of non-dep packages you have installed from any distro
[21:00] <default_|> help-me in portuguese
[21:00] <reisio> steel_: to be installed on any other distro
[21:00] <reisio> default_|: #ubuntu-br or -pt
[21:00] <Malgorath> Fuchs, gtf short for anything?
[21:00] <DETERMINOLOGY> Im really thinking about dual booting linux on this pc
[21:01] <default_|> thanks
[21:01] <steel_> reisio,i'm using natty right now,eventually i have to switch
[21:01] <madmax_> xpress: show me lspci
[21:01] <Jordan_U> steel_: /usr can *not* be shared between distros.
[21:01] <reisio> steel_: why's that?
[21:01] <Fuchs> Malgorath: it's the name of the tool, I have no idea whether it has a meaning
[21:01] <trama> reisio, I tried the procedure mentioned in the forum already, but now even lost my hardware that was listed in the sound of ubuntu ...
[21:01] <steel_> reisio,its not lts
[21:01] <reisio> DETERMINOLOGY: you should determine it ;p
[21:01] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/1pGd7GWx
[21:02] <Malgorath> Fuchs, is it in apt repo or something i'd have to look up?
[21:02] <Fuchs> Malgorath: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gtf&mode=exactfilename&suite=natty&arch=any
[21:02] <rotflcopter> "Take your chance to use this open window..."
[21:03] <reisio> steel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades
[21:03] <DETERMINOLOGY> Yea most def reisio
[21:03] <reisio> steel_: you don't reinstall in Linux land
[21:03] <reisio> there's no need
[21:03] <DETERMINOLOGY> I mean i use a vm with it but its not the way i want it
[21:03] <madmax_> xpress: check out this post http://blog.homelinux.org/?p=327
[21:03] <reisio> DETERMINOLOGY: yeah, not quite the same
[21:03] <xpress> madmax_: well ?
[21:04] <madmax_> xpress: ^^^
[21:04] <steel_> oh ok thanks reisio , Jordan_U ,rww
[21:04] <xpress> madmax_: sry i didnt see that u writed something ^^
[21:04] <DETERMINOLOGY> reisio whats the best way to partition the drive or let ubuntu do it its self? Cause i might do it tomorrow
[21:04] <xpress> madmax_: i now look
[21:04] <Malgorath> fuchs thanks i'm gonna try to restart x now
[21:04] <madmax_> xpress: what version of xubuntu?
[21:05] <reisio> DETERMINOLOGY: for a desktop?  Just do one big / and ext4 if you don't want to think about it
[21:05] <DETERMINOLOGY> Yea desktop
[21:06] <extradessert> DETERMINOLOGY: are you going to keep the old os?
[21:06] <extradessert> otherwse let ubuntu partition itself
[21:07] <xpress> madmax_: the last one
[21:08] <xpress> madmax_: but that is not how to fix the (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) right ?
[21:09] <madmax_> xpress: the last one? 11.04, 10.10. 10.04? This will address the connection issues that you are having.  Frequent drop's, etc.
[21:09] <BarkingFish> Has ubuntu ever had a version which would install on machines running ARM or StrongARM, like PPC, HP iPAQ, etc?
[21:10] <malgorath> well.. that was... interesting
[21:10] <xpress> madmax_: 11.04 but i am not sure :D
[21:10] <default_|> I can use BitchsX in ubuntu 11.4
[21:10] <reisio> BarkingFish: pretty sure, yeah
[21:10] <reisio> BarkingFish: and certainly Debian has
[21:11] <Pici> default_|: No. bitchx was removed from Debian (and thus Ubuntu) a number of releases ago.
[21:11] <malgorath> Fuchs, perhaps I should figure out where to put that, I tried to replace the line in my xorg.conf but must have borked it up cause it was really wrong
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> isn't bitchx no longer developed?
[21:11] <Pici> !bitchx | default_|
[21:11] <reisio> irssi is better anyways
[21:11] <default_|> what similary a Bitchs I can use ?
[21:11] <xpress> madmax_: i reboot =)
[21:12] <BarkingFish> reisio, is there any chance there'd still be ISO's of it somewhere?  I'm trying to switch my old HP iPAQ RX1950 over to linux from WM5, and want something I can install from an SD Card, since I have no sync leads for it
[21:12] <Pici> default_|: irssi or weechat
[21:12] <default_|> irssi
[21:12] <madmax_> xpress: okay
[21:12] <default_|> thanks
[21:12] <extradessert> default_|: irssi
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> reisio: better than a dead project, most things are  ;)
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> pidgin here :)
[21:13] <reisio> ActionParsnip: you could be right about that :p
[21:13] <reisio> BarkingFish: WM5?
[21:14] <BarkingFish> windows mobile 5.0, reisio
[21:14] <crash1hd> OK this is bazar, I just loaded LiveUSB 11.04 and the CD stuff works fine But the installed version doesnt
[21:14] <Fuchs> malgorath: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:14] <reisio> BarkingFish: ah, horrors
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: whats it do / not do?
[21:16] <reisio> BarkingFish: http://www.anytux.org/hardware.php?system_id=1081
[21:16] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, well if I insert a CD or DVD or even just close the Drawer with nothing in it the system locks up
[21:16] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, this doesnt happen in 10.10 just 11.04
[21:17] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, but I just tried using the liveUSB and it is not crashing with that?
[21:17] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, even though its using the same udisks as the one installed
[21:17] <crash1hd> version
[21:17] <reisio> BarkingFish: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22linux%20on%22%20%22ipaq%22%20%22rx1950%22 few other leads, too
[21:17] <reisio> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: are you fully updated?
[21:18] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, yes
[21:18] <BarkingFish> excellent, thanks reisio :)
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: so if you never use the optical drive its ok?
[21:19] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, it happenes on 2 machines same hardware from fresh install
[21:19] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, yes
[21:19] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, but the minute I open / close the tray it locksup
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: any bugs reported?
[21:19] <pangolin> How do I rmdir with files?
[21:19] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, not that I could find
[21:20] <xpress> madmax_: man you lied to me ? :S
[21:20] <MrKeuner> hello, my Intel Corporation 82562V-2 eth card loses connectivity after some random time. I wrote a dirty script that reboots the system after 5minutes of Internet unconnectivity... Is there a way to restart? the eth card instead ?
[21:20] <madmax_> xpress: what do you mean?
[21:20] <xpress> madmax_: i mean i restarted and i havesnt got any network
[21:20] <Travis-42> is there an alternative to avahi-daemon? It causes performance issues when used with another software I'm using.
[21:20] <xpress> madmax_: i deleated the file
[21:20] <reisio> MrKeuner: you might try /etc/init.d/network restart (or whatever) instead
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: I suggest you report one. If you press CTRL+ALT+F1 when the system hangs, does it take you  to cli?
[21:20] <reisio> service something something
[21:20] <atannus> Hi folks.
[21:20] <xpress> madmax_: i now have network but the OC is bugged
[21:21] <reisio> MrKeuner: or check your router
[21:21] <reisio> atannus: hi
[21:21] <xpress> madmax_: i cant click to exit from program
[21:21] <MrKeuner> reisio, router is the campus router...
[21:21] <madmax_> xpress: I don't like being called a liar, when trying to help you. I told you to read the post, and wanted to know what version of xubuntu you had.
[21:21] <xpress> madmax:_ i cant minimize and i dont have desktop picture :P
[21:21] <reisio> MrKeuner: nobody else is having the issue?
[21:21] <xpress> madmax_: i did not calle you lier but i just ask .. =)
[21:22] <MrKeuner> reisio, nope... by /etc/init.d/network do you mean /etc/init.d/networking?
[21:22] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, no it doesnt
[21:22] <madmax_> xpress: saying that I lied to you, is calling me a liar
[21:22] <reisio> MrKeuner: sounds good
[21:22] <xpress> madmax_: couse there are people who can say something to do for make me shut the f*ck up :D ..
[21:22] <javier_> hi! I upgraded to 11.10 beta 2. I believe that with actualizations, it will become the final release the day that it's available. But I'm not finding any actualization any day. Is it normal? I thought everyday there would be some new things to update
[21:22] <xpress> madmax_: i am sry if i insulted you
[21:23] <MrKeuner> reisio, do you think rmmod e1000e and insmod e1000e before restarting networking be better?
[21:23] <xpress> madmax_: but now my computer is for the rubbish ,9
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: do you have a different optical drive to test?
[21:23] <reisio> MrKeuner: I guess you could try it if other things don't work
[21:23] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, no sadly (but I did have 2 systems with the exact same specs, but of course the both had it happen)
[21:23] <madmax_> xpress: first, what file did you add/remove
[21:23] <atannus> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a Toshiba Satellite and I get a RSOD. I have tried Ubuntu server 9.04 and 9.10. Ubuntu Desktop 9.04, 9.10, 10.04, 10.10 and 11.04. All desktop installs (including Debian 5 Desktop) and server install generate a RSOD with  Deboostrap warning excep 10.04 which loads the background and freezes (only mouse responds do movement). I havefound no info on this anywhere... Windows xp, vista and 07 install fine.
[21:23] <reisio> pangolin: rm path/to/dir/ -fr
[21:24] <xpress> madmax_: how can i send you picture ?
[21:24] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, its a SATA optical drive
[21:24] <atannus> If anyone can clue me in, I'll be forever grateful!
[21:24] <reisio> pangolin: what's nice about rmdir is you can use it on dirs and know it will only work if you've already emptied the dir
[21:24] <recon69_lap>  MrKeuner: you could try ifup ifdown as well
[21:24] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, and this no mobo has no IDE connections
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: in BIOS, set the SATA to IDE compatibility mode
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: all drives are IDE ;)
[21:24] <reisio> atannus: red screen of death?
[21:24] <madmax_> xpress: post it on picassa or something?
[21:24] <MrKeuner> recon69_lap, what does ifup do? assign the IP number?
[21:24] <reisio> recon69_lap: or a different kernel version
[21:24] <xpress> can you accept ?
[21:24] <atannus> reisio, yes.
[21:25] <MrKeuner> reisio, I am already using -35
[21:25] <nvz> I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on this pure intel machine and it seems like it freezes but analyzing the logs says it had gotten my SAK and did kill X, but I cannot get to a tty or anything when it happens. I think it may be the FB crapping out
[21:25] <MrKeuner> .35
[21:25] <madmax_> xpress: I don't except files from irc chats
[21:25] <xpress> madmax_: can you acsept ?
[21:25] <reisio> atannus: I thought that was a Windows thing... you talking about some BIOS thing?
[21:25] <recon69_lap> MrKeuner: http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Ifup-ifdown
[21:25] <madmax_> xpress: show me cat /etc/issue
[21:25] <xpress> madmax_: how to upload it ?
[21:25] <xpress> w8
[21:26] <nvz> Its onboard Intel GMA 950 so idk.. but the whole X display freezes and I can't do anything but hard shutdown cause the screen stops refreshing even though apparently the kernel is fine
[21:26] <xpress> Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[21:26] <atannus> reisio, no... I'm assuming Debootstrap is Debian Bootstrap or something... It happens after the install begins bootstraping/loading. It is a linux/debian/kernel thing... not bios FOR SURE.
[21:26] <reisio> nvz: when X starts, or randomly afterwards?
[21:26] <xpress> madmax_: Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[21:26] <reisio> atannus: oh that, right sorry
[21:26] <reisio> I thought the point of debootstrap was that it wasn't susceptible to the issues of automated installers
[21:26] <nvz> reisio: its like 5min or so roughly I think its semi-random but its not too long after login.
[21:27] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, yes but I have them set to AHCI because I have 6 drives connected to the SATA ports as well as the optical and if I set it to IDE then they are not hotswapable or at least some of them are not (but I will give it a try after this new fresh install) and see
[21:27] <xpress> madmax_: or say me how to upload it on internet ..
[21:27] <nvz> reisio: right now I am using screen on tty1 with irssi.. thinking about installing ssh so I can at least get in remotely
[21:27] <atannus> reisio, I'm no expert, but I generally get around issues with google and docs... not thins though. didnt know debian/ubuntu even had a RSOD! lol
[21:27]  * jaimef ponders qt 4.7 on lucid
[21:27] <madmax_> xpress: you'll need an account with someting like picassa or photobucket
[21:28] <atannus> I cant rule out hardware, but I'm dismissing it as winxp , vista and 07 install fine.
[21:28] <xpress> madmax_: man i cant do that with my slow internet :/ just acsept it i am not a hacker or something like taht :/
[21:28] <flummy_> xpress: http://666kb.com/
[21:28] <atannus> I have not tried different distros...
[21:28] <atannus> only debian and ubuntu...
[21:29] <reisio> atannus: have you tried using a USB stick?
[21:29] <madmax_> xpress: sorry, I will not accept files from IRC
[21:29] <xpress> madmax_: i made it with 666kb.com =)
[21:29] <atannus> reisio, no... you're thinking the cd-rom?
[21:29] <xpress> w8
[21:29] <atannus> reisio, the driver, I mean...
[21:29] <reisio> atannus: could be
[21:30] <xpress> madmax_: http://666kb.com/i/bxqpazlnoa5f5n276.jpg
[21:30] <flummy_> hehe
[21:30] <atannus> reisio how come it works for everything else (windows shit?)
[21:30] <reisio> the device, the driver for it, the CDs themselves, how you're burning them, how the BIOS manages it
[21:30] <reisio> atannus: probably because the person who assembled the computer did so with only Windows in mind, for starters
[21:30] <reisio> atannus: easier to fix after you're installed
[21:30] <atannus> reisio, I... honestly don't think I'm burning the cds wrong... They work fine on other machines!
[21:31] <reisio> atannus: okay that's one out of a big list I just gave :p
[21:31] <flummy_> xpress: is that spanish or portugese or...?=
[21:31] <atannus> reisio, lol...
[21:31] <nvz>  there is nothing really in the logs indicating a problem other than "*ERROR* invalid framebuffer id" in syslog and kern.log from one of the times it hung
[21:31] <xpress> spanish
[21:31] <flummy_> cool :)
[21:31] <nvz> did it both on the usb stick I installed with and on the install twice
[21:31] <madmax_> the missing toolbar controls have nothing to do with the wifi config file in that post
[21:31] <xpress> ^^
[21:31] <xpress> madmax_: so how i fix it :/
[21:32] <xpress> and the desktop missing ..
[21:32] <atannus> reisio, damn... it is a toshiba laptop with oem windows vista...
[21:32] <madmax_> xpress: what file did you delete?
[21:32] <madmax_> xpress: what command did you run
[21:32] <xpress> madmax_: i didnt ..
[21:32] <reisio> atannus: just try with a USB stick, it might work
[21:32] <atannus> reisio, but I have never ever ever ever had a problem with ubuntu...
[21:32] <reisio> atannus: and even if it doesn't work, you know more
[21:32] <atannus> reisio, so how do I go about this? I probably have to make a bootable usb, right?
[21:32] <epona> is there a command I can use to install a file from a website
[21:32] <flummy_> xpress: i really don't know anything about gnome, but it seems you are running gnome (not unity) - i have no idea, but try to start nautilus in that black terminal in the right bottom corner
[21:32] <epona> like a tarball
[21:33] <reisio> atannus: yes, you can use unetbootin
[21:33] <reisio> atannus: on Linux or Windows
[21:33] <reisio> epona: a tarball of what?
[21:33] <xpress> i have nautilus ;)
[21:33] <atannus> im on linux right now... on another pc
[21:33] <epona> a tarball of django
[21:33] <reisio> atannus: k, unetbootin should be in your repos
[21:33] <epona> or some source code
[21:33] <reisio> epona: most distros provide django
[21:33] <madmax_> xpress: when you came back to the chat, you said you deleted a file
[21:33] <epona> or a text file
[21:33] <nvz> me goes back to X with ssh running to wait for the freeze
[21:33] <reisio> epona: is there some reason you want to compile it?
[21:33] <flummy_> xpress: hmm i thought maybe it's an imitation of windows, where explorer.exe handles the background/desktop :P
[21:33] <xpress> aa
[21:33] <madmax_> xpress: show me history
[21:34] <epona> just for future reference
[21:34] <atannus> reisio, installing as we chat... ;)
[21:34] <epona> Im looking for a command that can install a file from a website
[21:34] <epona> I think subversion can do it
[21:34] <epona> which I installed
[21:34] <reisio> epona: most tarballs come with instructions
[21:34] <xpress> madmax_: i deleted the ath9k.conf
[21:34] <epona> but it gives me some errors
[21:34] <flummy_> epona: "install file from website" is a very untechnical description ^^
[21:34] <xpress> from /etc/modprobe.d/
[21:35] <reisio> epona: this is the general process, however: http://www.google.com/search?q=configure%20make%20install
[21:35] <epona> yea, I don't know very much how to do it flummy_  :(
[21:35] <flummy_> ah!
[21:35] <flummy_> xpress: you cant move the windows, can you
[21:35] <flummy_> xpress: i think your window manager died
[21:35] <xpress> i can
[21:35] <flummy_> xpress: try starting compiz in your terminal
[21:35] <epona> no, reisio
[21:35] <flummy_> oh
[21:35] <flummy_> ok
[21:35] <epona> I don't have the file
[21:35] <epona> its on a website
[21:35] <xpress> flummy_: i will love you forever
[21:35] <reisio> epona: eh? :p
[21:35] <flummy_> xpress: what about trying compiz --replace
[21:36] <epona> like something you can click and download
[21:36] <flummy_> xpress: i like spanish boys :)
[21:36] <epona> but I can't click it through a terminal
[21:36] <xpress> flummy_: :D you fixed it :P
[21:36] <flummy_> cool :)
[21:37] <flummy_> xpress: the window manager is the component of the X11 windowing system that handles resizing and moving and the so called "decoration" of windows
[21:37] <flummy_> decoration of windows are those minimize/resize buttons
[21:37] <xpress> but when i close the terminal my desktop picture disappear again :D ..
[21:37] <flummy_> and it seems your window manager died for some reason // this shouldn't happen
[21:37] <flummy_> xpress: nohup compiz &
[21:37] <flummy_> with the &
[21:38] <flummy_> nohup detaches the following command from the terminal
[21:38] <flummy_> and & places it in the "background", without being dependent on the console
[21:38] <cwillu> flummy_, compiz & disown is prettier :p
[21:38] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, ok so I have done a fresh install (pre any updates now) and its working but this is also pre using the asus ati propriatary driver
[21:38] <flummy_> evilbass: didn't know about disown
[21:38] <cwillu> (doesn't leave the nohup.out file in the current directory)
[21:38] <xpress> shows me that ( xpress@xpress:~$ nohup: se ignora la entrada y se añade la salida a «nohup.out» )
[21:38] <madmax_> xpress: did you follow the instructions for creating the ath9k.conf for Natty?
[21:38] <flummy_> cwillu: tell me more
[21:38] <xpress> madmax_: yes
[21:38] <flummy_> is disown in his own package?
[21:39] <cwillu> flummy_, no, bash builtin
[21:39] <flummy_> hw@hq:~$ apt-cache search disown
[21:39] <flummy_> hw@hq:~$
[21:39] <flummy_> cwillu: oooooh.
[21:39] <xpress> madmax_: and i didnt had the toolblar on the restart neither internet so i deleted it
[21:39] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, the video driver stops me from using unity (which I know is normal) but still wondering
[21:39] <reisio> it's a shell built-in
[21:39] <reisio> not sure how it applies, though
[21:39] <madmax_> xpress: with just options ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[21:39] <xpress> madmax_: yes...
[21:39] <flummy_> what are plantillas?
[21:39] <flummy_> little plants? no?
[21:39] <flummy_> hehe
[21:40] <madmax_> xpress: and after that, you had no wifi?
[21:40] <flummy_> ok i think i can guess the ruler in the plantillas icon
[21:41] <drahst> is there any way to make virtbuilder use a specific img file? I created a pre-allocated file to help with i/o, I'd like to have the vm that is created to use it
[21:44] <atannus> reisio, you know what sucks? the satellite wont boot from usb...
[21:44] <xpress> flummy_: i have the toolblar but my desktop is disappearing
[21:45] <atannus> reisio, nm, it does too.
[21:45] <xpress> flummy_: and is so strange toolblar .. :/
[21:45] <xpress> flummy_: can u enter in my computer with teamviewer or something ?
[21:45] <flummy_> xpress: sorry no time
[21:45] <xpress> flummy_: ah no problem =)
[21:45] <flummy_> xpress: you can try to save your work and kill your X11 (gui, graphical) session
[21:46] <xpress> flummy_: how ?
[21:46] <flummy_> hm :)
[21:46] <flummy_> i think ubuntu disabled the hotkey for that per default
[21:46] <flummy_> it used to be ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:46] <flummy_> but it's probably disabled to not annoy new users
[21:46] <cwillu> fluido, plus you can just use the magic sysrq-k
[21:46] <phibxr> fluido, who frequently tap that combination for the giggles. ;)
[21:47] <cwillu> more reliable anyway, being implemented in the kernel :p
[21:47] <cwillu> also, damn tab completion
[21:47]  * cwillu pokes flummy_ with a stick
[21:47] <madmax_> xpress: <ctrl>+F2, login, sudo gdm restart
[21:47] <phibxr> cwillu, agreed. :D
[21:47] <flummy_> ^^
[21:47] <cwillu> madmax_, why do that, when sysrq-k does it without the extra password?
[21:48] <flummy_> *trying hard not to press sysRq k*
[21:48] <atannus> reisio, I got the little ubuntu icon with the dots underneath (loading thingy), now it jumped into a black screen and frooze. No mouse, no nothing...
[21:48] <madmax_> cwillu: didn't know about that.
[21:48] <xpress> madmax_: man can you please enter somehow in my computer and fix that please :/
[21:49] <recon69_lap> there firefox window shutting down, but staying in memory and stopping you opening firefox again
[21:49] <xpress> madmax_: i will install teamviewer if its nessesary
[21:49] <atannus> reisio, when I hit the power buton, it unloads... this is odd.
[21:50] <recon69_lap> have to kill firefox process
[21:50] <madmax_> xpress: i am only able to chat at this time.  kids are home and have my attention. i can only give advice in chat
[21:50] <flummy_> kids!
[21:50] <atannus> reisio, do you think this could be related to the notebook being off a network? it shouldn't matter, should it???
[21:51] <madmax_> flummy: yep, 2 kids, single father
[21:51] <flummy_> o.O
[21:51] <xpress> madmax_: well no problem =) look what i found when i tryied to put (compiz --replace) .. = ( compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.)
[21:51] <flummy_> maybe not important (dont know)
[21:53] <madmax_> xpress: i wonder if compiz did not load something properly on your last reboot.  i had a lot of issues with it on my netbook, i wound up turning off the effects
[21:53] <flummy_> xpress: if i had time to listen, i would ask "what did you change prior to the disappearance of the window manager (window "decorations", background, etc)
[21:54] <flummy_> xpress: did you try killing your session like madmax_ suggested?
[21:54] <flummy_> 23:47 < madmax_> xpress: <ctrl>+F2, login, sudo gdm restart
[21:54] <xpress> ctrl + F2 didnt work
[21:54] <flummy_> ic
[21:54] <flummy_> xpress: oh
[21:54] <flummy_> xpress: try control+alt+F2
[21:54] <Solved> I'm trying to use the program 'playonlinux' to play Age Of Empires III, but when I click on Age Of Empires, and then hit play, nothing happens. Any ideas?
[21:54] <flummy_> ctrl+F2 really shouldn't work
[21:54] <xpress> i tryed apt-get update
[21:54] <flummy_> xpress: try control+alt+F2
[21:55] <flummy_> STOP
[21:55] <madmax_> xpress: wait
[21:55] <flummy_> remember the following commands before you do that
[21:55] <wolfmitchell> Lol I'm here on webchat without a desktop enviroment running :D
[21:55] <xpress> stop what ?
[21:55] <flummy_> xpress: before you press control+F2, remember the following
[21:55] <madmax_> xpress: you need to know the whole command, and how to get back
[21:55] <flummy_> because you will switch to a black and white text mode "console"
[21:55] <flummy_> in fullscreen
[21:56] <xpress> and what i have to remember ^^
[21:56] <flummy_> (if it works)
[21:56] <flummy_> login with username/password at the provided prompts and type sudo gdm restart
[21:56] <flummy_> if it does not work, try alt+f6 or alt+f7 or alt+f8
[21:56] <madmax_> xpress: but first, cwillu posted how to restart the desktop without switching consoles, did you try that?
[21:56] <Solved> I'm trying to use the program 'playonlinux' to play a game, but when I click on the game, and then hit run, nothing happens. Any playonlinux people out there that can help me?
[21:56] <flummy_> to switch back to the graphical X11 systme
[21:56] <xpress> w8 to write on some paper =)
[21:57] <slinzex> Why I can't turn off 100% my screen of the laptop. When I run slock, or xset dps 0... ... it's like 2 secs completely off. Then it turns on partially. It's look like grey screen. I'd like power off totally. Is it possible?
[21:58] <cwillu> slinzex, try "sleep 3s; xset dpms off"
[21:59] <madmax_> xpress: <Alt>-<PrtSc/SysRq>-<k>      alt prtscrn k
[21:59] <flummy_> *trying VERY hard not to press sysRq k*
[21:59] <cwillu> warning:  other keystrokes of the alt-sysrq-* nature can cause damage
[22:00] <flummy_> apart from SysRq s
[22:00] <cwillu> flummy_, -k is just like ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:00] <flummy_> cwillu: very cool.
[22:00] <cwillu> flummy_, there's several that are safe.  And they're right next to several that aren't :p
[22:00] <flummy_> cwillu: but i'd like to keep my 20 xterms :)
[22:00] <madmax_> cwillu: lol, now I need to learn more keyboard shortcuts
[22:00] <cwillu> alt-sysrq-? will dump the list to dmegs
[22:00] <cwillu> flummy_, do it from a different vterm :p
[22:01] <flummy_> cwillu: no.
[22:01] <flummy_> cwillu: ^1
[22:01] <flummy_> cwillu: ^^
[22:01] <cwillu> flummy_, it only affects the current vterm
[22:01]  * flummy_ not brave enough.
[22:01] <flummy_> maybe next month
[22:01] <flummy_> after the next reboot
[22:01] <madmax_> cwillu:1912 possibilities... nice
[22:02] <flummy_> xpress: dropkick this is skybird with an a-dash-alpha message in two parts, break break
[22:03] <xpress_> madmax_: are you here ?
[22:03] <omido> where can i find a pdf file of the book" the official ubuntu book" ? is it free?
[22:03] <madmax_> xpress: yes
[22:03] <madmax_> xpress: but your not?
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> omido: it's a regular book in the bookshop, not free
[22:04] <flummy_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReJ3RltihME&t=155
[22:05] <omido> damn
[22:05] <xpress_> madmax_: it showed me that eror (failed to acquiere org.gnome.Display manager ) and (Could not acquiere :bailing out )
[22:05] <faz> omido: pirate bay
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> flummy_: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of fancy videos
[22:05] <omido> where can i find complete documentation like startup guide like what opensuse has ? i want pdf
[22:06] <flummy_> MonkeyDust: i think i will rather part #ubuntu and help someone else, bye
[22:06] <madmax_> xpress: sounds like it's not loading the display manager on top of the xserver.  have you only rebooted the one time after removing the ath.conf file?
[22:07] <xpress_> yes only 1 :/
[22:07] <xpress_> madmax_: so do you know how to fix :S
[22:07] <qin> omido: tldp.org/ ubuntu-manual.org/ and google books: http://goo.gl/Nh0ja
[22:08] <madmax_> xpress: try a complete reboot, the file you deleted is not related, I want to see if something just crashed at load
[22:08] <omido> qin: is this free or i should pay for this crap too ?
[22:08] <xpress_> i rebooted 3 times :/
[22:08] <xpress_> madmax_: i rebooted 3 times
[22:08] <qin> omido: Two first linke totaly free, google book have many free to read, pay to get.
[22:09] <madmax_> xpress: you just said you rebooted 1 time?
[22:09] <joar> Using the original Terminal in Ubuntu Natty, when doing CTRL + LARROW, the cursor doesn't jump a word to the left but inserts a ;5D instead.
[22:09] <xpress_> madmax_: i think that is better reinstall linux :/ ... ?
[22:09] <g0rs> anybody using compiz here? animations aren't working even though i've enabled them.
[22:09] <joar> This is undesirable behaviour to me.
[22:09] <owner> OMG I was using Ubuntu 10.04 since its release NEVER had a problem then I upgraded to 11.04, what an Udder piece of SHIT, locks up All the time names in Nautilus disappear WTF
[22:09] <omido> why dont ubuntu provide free documentation like openSUSE has ?
[22:10] <reisio> it's 'utter'
[22:10] <omido> qin: why dont ubuntu provide free documentation like openSUSE has ?
[22:10] <xpress_> madmax_: but after the first time i used ctrl + F2 twice
[22:10] <reisio> omido: it does
[22:10] <g0rs> qin: do you use compiz?
[22:10] <madmax_> xpress: that is not a reboot, it just restarts the x server
[22:11] <qin> g0rs: Yes.
[22:11] <xpress_> madmax_: and how to reboot ?
[22:11] <flummy_> sync and umount first
[22:11] <madmax_> xpress: shutdown, then turn it back on
[22:11] <g0rs> qin: are animations working for you? i've enabled them in ccsm but there doesn't seem to any effects.
[22:11] <madmax_> xpress: or, sudo reboot
[22:12] <qin> g0rs: No idea, no x atm.
[22:13] <wiredfool> I'm trying to figure out why my machine is hard freezing -- with 10.04, a fresh install of 10.04, and 11.04.  I can reliably trigger it with vmbuilder, where it dies in a select call. (but it dies in other cases as well, normally after 10 --15 minutes of excercise, but 20 hours of idle can do it too)
[22:13] <omido> reisio:  i mean something like SUSE's . free to read . free to download . free to distribute . this is an example for openSUSE 11.4 : http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse114/
[22:13] <reisio> omido: ubuntu has that
[22:13] <qin> g0rs: Did you edit setting per window?
[22:13] <reisio> so does every other popular distro
[22:13] <Tired_> Hi.  If I install Beta 2 tonight, will it offer me an upgrade to the release tomorrow in Update Manager?
[22:13] <omido> reisio:  can you please give me the link ?
[22:13] <xpress> madmax_: i didd it it starts with no crashes
[22:13] <reisio> omido: what info are you looking for?
[22:13] <g0rs> qin: yes, settings such as open,close,minimize
[22:13] <madmax_> xpress: desktop is all okay?
[22:14] <xpress> madmax_: and it shows me my desktop for about 2 seconds then disappears
[22:14] <wiredfool> it's not the install, seeing as it does it in 3. It's not video, since I found the vmbuilder crash with the video card pulled. Bonnie++ on either disk runs fine, and I can nc at gigabit speeds for 20+ gigs without a crash
[22:14] <omido> reisio:  info like that link. full documentation including startup guide .
[22:14] <wiredfool> and memtest has run for a day, and it still works
[22:14] <wiredfool> What am I missing?
[22:14] <reisio> omido: go to ubuntu.com, hit Support at the top
[22:15] <Tired_> Or will I need to reinstall from scratch to go from Beta 2 to release?
[22:15] <Nach0z> Hey I've got a question for yall, I know how to use sudo and stuff. But, I can sudo su from an account, and do su <otheruser> from there with no issues... is there a way I can make myself able to "su <otheruser>" without having to sudo su first?
[22:15] <madmax_> xpress: show me ls /var/log/Xorg*
[22:15] <xpress> madmax_: xpress@xpress:~$ ls /var/log/Xorg*
[22:15] <xpress> /var/log/Xorg.0.log  /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[22:16] <reisio> Nach0z: if you know the user's password
[22:16] <reisio> Nach0z: su - user
[22:16] <madmax_> now show me tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:16] <qin> g0rs: Is there any "!" in rules?
[22:16] <Nach0z> su: authentication failure
[22:16] <g0rs> qin: where the ! rules?
[22:16] <reisio> Nach0z: oh, might have to be in the wheel group
[22:16] <xpress> can you give me the site for paste ?
[22:16] <Nach0z> uh. wheel group?
[22:17] <reisio> sudo gpasswd
[22:17] <nzit> Why does it insert ;5D into Ubuntu Terminal instead of jumping a word to the left? This works fine in Windows.
[22:17] <qin> g0rs: Recal that animation was set by window class, title, etc... Have you edit those?
[22:17] <reisio> Nach0z: actually you shouldn't have to be, nevermind
[22:17] <g0rs> qin: there are logical oerations on windnows and they contain & and ! , so yes.
[22:17] <Nach0z> well, turns out I just had the password wrong. Is there a way I can skip the authentication step?
[22:17] <airtonix> Nach0z: lol? no
[22:17] <madmax_> xpress: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:18] <Nach0z> like, su <otheruser> from root doesn't make me need to auth
[22:18] <reisio> Nach0z: because root already has all privileges
[22:18] <g0rs> qin: here is an example: ((type=Normal | Unknown) | name=sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer | name=sun-awt-X11-XDialogPeer) & !(role=toolTipTip | role=qtooltip_label) & !(type=Normal & override_redirect=1) & !(name=gnome-screensaver)
[22:18] <reisio> authenticating is pointless
[22:18] <reisio> you can do anything as root
[22:18] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/Ztqxi1td
[22:19] <Nach0z> hm. well. inconvenient but I guess su - <user> works better than having to ssh to localhost...
[22:19] <Nach0z> thanks then.
[22:19] <reisio> ssh to localhost, heh
[22:19] <qin> g0rs: Above missing )
[22:19] <reisio> Nach0z: the fact that you want to do this suggests your entire approach is likely suboptimal
[22:20] <xpress> madmax_: well ?
[22:20] <madmax_> xpress: i am waiting for my imac to boot, it has xubuntu, i want to see if i can find the logs
[22:20] <qin> g0rs: No, my bad
[22:20] <Nach0z> reisio I keep different services and programs under different users on my server so that if one gets compromised, it's easier to contain
[22:20] <xpress> madmax_: ok
[22:20] <g0rs> qin: is it at the end?  i think it misses ( and )
[22:20] <reisio> Nach0z: but why would you need to log in as a service's user
[22:20] <g0rs> qin: is it at the end?  i think it misses ( and )  in the second expresssion after &!
[22:20] <Nach0z> 'cuz sometimes Unreal and Eggdrop need rebooted, reisio ... or other stuff
[22:21] <reisio> if it's a service you should be able to use the init system
[22:21] <Nach0z> or, config changes, more programs, dunno. It changes over time
[22:21] <Jonathon> Anyone familiar with pam_group.so?
[22:21] <Nach0z> lol not that kind of service
[22:21] <reisio> Jonathon: owes me $5
[22:21] <g0rs> qin: does it miss a ) at the end?
[22:21] <reisio> Nach0z: so not a service
[22:21] <Nach0z> I just mean different programs really. eggdrop, unreal, qwebirc,
[22:21] <Nach0z> yeah not a services.
[22:21] <reisio> k...
[22:21] <Nach0z> *service. bleh can't type today
[22:22] <reisio> you could make it happen
[22:22] <reisio> but it would work against the extra security
[22:22] <xpress> madmax_: but it never thowed me this problem and i turn off the computer every day ..
[22:22] <Nach0z> yeah, but only one account has sudo and it's got a longarse password .... I prefer to just be able to su - user
[22:22] <xpress> madmax_: trowed *
[22:22] <Nach0z> better than ssh localhost -l user -p 443 like I normally have to...
[22:23] <reisio> Nach0z: right, but sudo is configurable
[22:23] <g0rs> qin: any ideas ?!
[22:23] <reisio> Nach0z: you could make an alias to your ssh
[22:23] <Jonathon> Am I correct in that pam_group.so will make the calling user a member of a group temporarily?
[22:23] <Nach0z> yeah, I did that once, but then realized that when I was ssh'ing to someone elses server, the -p 443 was ... uh... unnecessary
[22:24] <Nach0z> su - user really is faster XD
[22:24] <reisio> :p
[22:24] <xpress> madmax_: are you here ?
[22:24] <reisio> or are you in thunderdome
[22:25] <Nach0z> lol reisio
[22:25] <madmax_> xpress: i am, you'll have to be patient, the imac is SLOW
[22:25] <qin> g0rs: No, not really. Let me start x
[22:26] <xpress> madmax_: i am =) i go to smoke
[22:26] <g0rs> qin: thanks
[22:27] <xpress> madmax_ , and you dont acsept files from icc couse there are people sending virus :S ?
[22:28] <madmax_> xpress: that is one of the reason's, yes
[22:28] <g0rs> qin: please yell after you're back :0)
[22:28] <reisio> xpress: imageshack.us
[22:28] <Mneumonic> what time zone is ubuntu in.  I'm having trouble figuring out when 11.10 is releasing
[22:29] <Mneumonic> says midnight but doesn't say the time zone
[22:29] <xpress> reisio , madmax_ .. :/ i would not acsept files too :D !
[22:30] <reisio> I do, but it's usually a big hassle to use dcc instead of a hosting service
[22:30] <xpress> i didnt understood you .D
[22:30] <xpress> so bad english i have =(
[22:31] <madmax_> now show me tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:31] <reisio> that's okay, my castellano is awful
[22:31] <xpress> :D
[22:31] <madmax_> xpress: show me tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[22:32] <enrolics> hi everyone
[22:32] <BarkingFish> Mneumonic, I'd assume that's 13th October, Midnight UTC/GMT - it's 11.30PM here now, and there's no sign of it. I may be wrong.
[22:32] <reisio> hi enrolics
[22:32] <enrolics> I love the lastest version of U
[22:32] <qin> g0rs: Dunno, can you try to use simple-ccsm in meanwhile.
[22:32] <enrolics> hi reisio
[22:32] <reisio> enrolics: what do you love about it
[22:32] <BarkingFish> so I'd imagine the release is in about 90 minutes time
[22:32] <g0rs> qin: okay i'll try simple-ccsm
[22:33] <enrolics> well just the whole interface
[22:33] <zykotick9> BarkingFish, it could be ANY time on the 13th
[22:33] <enrolics> I expected to have problems when installing it on my new netbook, but everything works
[22:33] <BarkingFish> zykotick9, Mneumonic> what time zone is ubuntu in.  I'm having trouble figuring out when 11.10 is releasing
 says midnight but doesn't say the time zone
[22:33] <enrolics> nearly everything!
[22:33] <bad_cables> ok, i solved the problem of ubuntu live disks crashing with a Dell D820... you have to upgrade the bios to vA07 or higher
[22:33] <xpress_> madmax_ : sorry my computer bugged i couldnt write
[22:33] <reisio> bad_cables: fun
[22:33] <zykotick9> BarkingFish, the time is never specified
[22:34] <reisio> bad_cables: Dell sucks with their BIOSes
[22:34] <g0rs> qin: there are dependencies issues with simple-ccsm . it doesn't list any of them.
[22:34] <reisio> A07 sounds like it's from several years ago itself
[22:34] <BarkingFish> Well it must mention it somewhere, or I doubt Mneumonic would have found it, zykotick9 :)
[22:34] <brett__> thisisthecountdown says one day
[22:34] <bad_cables> but now i have a T-Mobile dongle with a usb CDRom that is blocking the device in the netmanager, how do i solve this without the internet?
[22:34] <zykotick9> BarkingFish, really?  they specifically said midnight?  wow.
[22:34] <reisio> makes it easier to count and cheer over downloads
[22:34] <reisio> even though people _should_ be updating from existing installs :p
[22:34] <Mneumonic> the only thing i saw was a countdown that ends in 1 day and 6 hours....which isnt the 13th anywhere
[22:34] <xpress_> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/FLPSbknR
[22:35] <BarkingFish> Mneumonic, Would you mind sharing the URL where you found the info about it being released at midnight please?
[22:35] <enrolics> anyone else got a HP Mini
[22:35] <enrolics> ?
[22:35] <bad_cables> how do you install Usb-Modeswitch installation without a network connection?
[22:35] <reisio> enrolics: I have a cable for one
[22:35] <Mneumonic> the ubuntu release party room says "it will be released at 23:59:59
[22:35] <xpress_> madmax_: are you here ?
[22:35] <enrolics> Wonder if one can get the "quickweb" button on the mini to work under ubuntu
[22:35] <BarkingFish> zykotick9, There we go. That info is up in the release party channel
[22:35] <bad_cables> this T-mobile dongle with a built in drivers disk is the only way to get on the net
[22:36] <famgod> how do I compile a program from source using apt?
[22:36] <g0rs> qin: a package needs upgradation. I 'll take a look at it later for now.
[22:36] <xpress_> nqkoi  balgarin ima li :?
[22:36] <reisio> famgod: what program
[22:37] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | famgod this might help if you're compiling stuff
[22:37] <qin> g0rs: To get animation working you need to have proper rules, try to put as most top rule (type=Normal)  with effect of your like.
[22:37] <reisio> dear lord
[22:37] <arand> famgod: apt does not compile code,  however it will get you the source package using "apt-get source packagename"
[22:38] <reisio> well there's apt-src
[22:38] <madmax_> xpress: i am here, just busy.  i did not see anything in the log that can identify your problem yet
[22:38] <g0rs> qin: it's usually normal | unknown or normal | dialog
[22:38] <xpress_> reisio can u help me ?
[22:38] <reisio> ?
[22:39] <xpress_> reisio: compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.
[22:39] <famgod> got another question..i just removed bind9, then i manually deleted /etc/bind/...now when I reinstall bind9, it doesnt install the config files...help :P
[22:39] <enrolics> keep up the good work guys
[22:39] <enrolics> cheers
[22:39] <xpress_> reisio: i dont have toobllars and desktop picture .... :/
[22:41] <qin> g0rs: (type=Normal | Dialog | ModalDialog | Unknown) looks ok, but position of rule apparently do matter.
[22:41] <g0rs> qin: i got them working. It was to change otions in a drop down box for each window operation such as  open,close , minimize
[22:42] <qin> g0rs: drop down box? Where?
[22:42] <arand> famgod: which config files specifically? If you use "apt-file search /etc/bind" you would see what packages would install what files in that directory, some of the files may be auto-generated? user created?
[22:43] <g0rs> qin: i had to select a type of animation in each window operation . For example in minimize operation, there was an entry , zoom, I changed it to something else .After that that particular animation was working for minimize window operation.
[22:43] <xpress_> resio are u here ?
[22:44] <reisio> sorry, pizza time
[22:44] <Jason_> I'm glad to be back in here. openSUSE was pissing me off
[22:44] <Zacarias> Need help installing an Epson SX525WD printer on my Ubuntu running on powerpc
[22:44] <qin> g0rs: Well, good news.
[22:44] <Jason_> hey reisio
[22:44] <alams> hello guys
[22:45] <Zacarias> Need help installing an Epson SX525WD printer on my Ubuntu running on powerpc. Anyone?
[22:45] <Jason_> Zacarias: are there any PPD drivers on Epson'
[22:45] <Jason_> s
[22:45] <Jason_> site
[22:46] <deebee_> Zacarias: just explain your exact problem to the room, and anyone who can help will answer
[22:46] <Palace_chan> is there something similar to the ldd command i can use to check which .a (static libs) im building with ?
[22:46] <hilacha> does someone knows if already exists oneiric documentation?
[22:47] <set_killer> hey guys. i have messed up the sound settings on 11.10. deleting ~/.pulse does not help. How to reset to default all sound config files?
[22:47] <famgod> arand, the files are auto-generated, i just ran apt-file, and it says the bind9 package is the package that will install the files....and when I install the package, it doesnt install the config files
[22:47] <famgod> when i first installed bind9 it installed the configs
[22:47] <famgod> now that i uninstalled, manually removed them, and then installed it again
[22:47] <famgod> it doesnt give me the config files again :(
[22:49] <Jason_> I somehow managed to delete my network icon off the status bar. Is there anyway to bring it back?
[22:49] <BigOldCar> Hello, gang.  Can anyone point me to a step-by-step on configuring my ATI Mach64 GT video card with Lucid?
[22:49] <arand> famgod: It may be the case that you removed the package but did not purge it, in which case it assumes that the config files are still there, and don't overwrite them...
[22:49] <deebee_> famgod: try sudo apt-get --purge remove bind9
[22:49] <deebee_> famgod: and then reinstall
[22:49] <BigOldCar> I got it working in Hardy, but upgrade killed my system so I'm working with a new install.
[22:50] <famgod> deebee_ thank you :)
[22:50] <Nach0z> Is there any real advantage of using sudo -i rather than sudo su?
[22:50] <set_killer> deebee_: how to reinstall pulseaudio and to remove all config files ?
[22:51] <set_killer> on 11.10
[22:51] <pangolin> !11.10
[22:51] <recon69_lap> set_killer have you tried using alsamixer, can be handy when trouble shooting sound
[22:52] <deebee_> set_killer: sorry, don't know too much when it comes to ubuntu desktop
[22:52] <set_killer> i have applied some effects with audacious, but unfortunatly they have applied to the whole system, not only to audacious
[22:52] <Nach0z> set_killer: you could try sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[22:52] <Nach0z> that MAY remove the puslaudio configs
[22:53] <xpress> reisio: are you here ?
[22:53] <hilacha> Jason_, try nm-applet
[22:54] <xpress> can anybody helps ? i dont have toolblars like for exit from some program neither a desktop picture  :/
[22:54] <xpress> and i cant move the windows ..
[22:55] <set_killer> Nach0z: is this going to remove pulse... or it will reinstall it?
[22:55] <hilacha> xpress, are you running gnome?
[22:55] <Nach0z> Removes it, to my knowledge
[22:55] <xpress> yes
[22:56] <xpress> hilacha: yes
[22:56] <deebee_> xpress: what were you doing before it went wrong? is it a fresh install?
[22:57] <hilacha> xpress, try metacity &
[22:57] <Jason_> ah
[22:57] <Jason_> that did it
[22:57] <xpress> debee_ :i was making ath9k.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ for better wifi connection and on the reboot this happened
[22:57] <Jason_> is there an icon I can make to execute that command?
[22:58] <Jason_> not an icon
[22:58] <Jason_> a script
[22:58] <set_killer> Nach0z: thanks, after removing config files with PURGE, i reinstalled pulseaudio with sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop
[22:58] <Nach0z> so... did it work? lol
[22:59] <set_killer> yes :]
[22:59] <Nach0z> awesome. I feel smart now
[22:59] <utgt> is ubuntu 11.10 out yet?
[22:59] <utgt> what is new in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:59] <deebee_> xpress: not sure I can help you with that, but an IRC tip - type the first few letters of someone's nick and press Tab to get the rest. Makes replying a lot easier and error free :)
[22:59] <xangua> utgt: can you read the topic¿
[22:59] <qin> utgt: /join #ubuntu+1
[23:00] <set_killer> ubuntu-desktop just installed missing packets after the purge
[23:00] <arand> Nach0z: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4 shows the differences
[23:00] <xpress> hilacha: that worked but i now can move the windows but cant have desktop picture neither options for put some ..
[23:00] <Nach0z> thanks arand
[23:01] <Nach0z> hm... that's 'zactly what I was lookin for
[23:01] <hilacha> xpress, i know until here. :)
[23:01] <xpress> deebee_, wow thanks =)
[23:02] <D_Russ> possible to upgrade from 11.04 32 bit to 11.10 64 bit?
[23:02] <xpress> hilacha, ok thanks =)
[23:02] <BarkingFish> !+1 D_Russ
[23:02] <Sphearion> best part of 11.10.. native adaptec 6405 aacraid drives.. no more wasted time compiling that module for installs... yay!
[23:02] <qin> D_Russ: No
[23:02] <BarkingFish> !+1 | D_Russ
[23:02] <qin> BarkingFish: He asked same in #ubuntu+1
[23:03] <BarkingFish> ok qin, thanks
[23:03] <hilacha> Sphearion, are you talking about embedded adaptec driver in the kernel?
[23:03] <D_Russ> no answer in +1
[23:03] <BarkingFish> I'm not keeping up with +1's release party, or the channel, qin - too silly for me :)
[23:03] <Zacarias> Ok. II downloaded the printer drivers from the Avasys website (http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/download/lsb/epson-inkjet/escp/) and I tried to compile from source (the deb packages were not available for ppc. But I couldn't do it with the usual commands (./configure, make and make install). There were some errors. I connected the printer with an ethernet cable and it was identified as a network printer, which was perfect. But then it began looking for
[23:03] <Zacarias> drivers, and it said there was something like an epson-escp- wrapper missing. Before I had already tried with the USB cable, it asked me for the ppd and I pointed to the one in the package directory. Apparently it was succesfuly installed, but it was always asking for the filter which couldn't be found. I tried to configure and install using the filter directory that came with the whole package, but there were always errors, first with the configure (it
[23:03] <Zacarias> missed a prefix, I guess) and then with make (error in the Makefile). I looked for support (Ubuntu forums, Avasys website and forums, Epson support for my country), but without success. I have the printer installed on two Mac OS systems (on another drive on the same computer and on a Macbook). But I don't want to change OS each time I have to print something!
[23:03] <FloodBot1> Zacarias: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <Sphearion> hilacha, i mean i just installed the daily on one of my servers with that card in it and I didn't have to add steps for it to see the arrays. soo nice
[23:04] <Sphearion> i think there was the later end of the 2.x kernels that had support for it to. but not during install of 11.04 as it was 1 kernel version too old
[23:05] <hilacha> Sphearion, cool. i work with raid cards in linux, but we uses debian
[23:05] <qin> Zacarias: What epson is it?
[23:05] <Sphearion> We are an Ubuntu shop.
[23:05] <hilacha> i dont know if already there are support to that board in squeeze
[23:05] <Sphearion> and those cards used to give me hell
[23:06] <hilacha> the problem is recompile the kernel to support it?
[23:06] <JamesMc> so, is 11.10 out today without an RC?
[23:06] <canard> Ha
[23:06] <JamesMc> stop following me canard, it's creepy
[23:06] <Sphearion> the problem was it was in a rpm from adaptec so during install you had to dkms and alien the package
[23:06] <Sphearion> at least in 11.04
[23:06] <Myrtti> JamesMc: in the next 24 hours, yes
[23:07] <Myrtti> JamesMc: join #ubuntu-release-party for more
[23:07] <hilacha> Sphearion, do you sell hardware for ubuntu? what is your url shop?
[23:07] <JamesMc> Mydoom: is that the official word? I'm really surprised there's been no RC
[23:07] <canard> cheers Myrtti
[23:07] <Sphearion> we don't sell. shop meaning all our servers are ubuntu and our desktops are all ubuntu.
[23:07] <xpress> i dont have background can somebody helps ?
[23:07] <hilacha> is common a rc before a final release in ubuntu releases>
[23:07] <hilacha> ?
[23:07] <Myrtti> JamesMc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[23:08] <Zacarias> FloodBot1: I don't understand
[23:08] <rww> JamesMc: The release team decided not to do RCs for this and future releases unless they change their mind.
[23:08] <xpress> Zacarias, he is a bot :D ..
[23:08] <hilacha> Sphearion, ok :) do you use adaptec 2405?
[23:08] <Zacarias> qin: it's an Epson SX525WD
[23:08] <Sphearion> no only the 6405
[23:09] <Sphearion> and alot of asus pike cards
[23:09] <hilacha> pike cards? what it that?
[23:10] <JamesMc> rww: is there anywhere I can read about the decision? I've been rather concerned with the quality of the last couple of ubuntu releases and while I understand an RC isn't anything special, I still think it's important to have one
[23:10] <Sphearion> a pike is like a manufacturer sas card for asus motherboards. it works like the adaptec. but it uses the motherboard sata connectors. and has a very special connector kinda like a really stretched out PCI
[23:10] <rww> JamesMc: not that I know of
[23:10] <qin> Zacarias: One moment, floodbot told you to keep it brief.
[23:11] <Zacarias> qin: but it was a long story
[23:12] <JamesMc> rww: thanks, I'll hunt around myself and see if I can find something, but I'm surprised I've not heard anything about this before
[23:12] <hilacha> Sphearion, humm. i understood. Intel calls it a zero channel raid board (i guess). we already used that, but a lot time ago, witch scsi.
[23:12] <Sphearion> hilacha, http://us.estore.asus.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2049 thats a pike
[23:13] <canard> JamesMc: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-February/032448.html
[23:14] <recon69_lap> Zacarias: pastebin the output of the ./configure and ./make commands
[23:14] <JamesMc> thanks canard, I'm fairly certain the RC was listed in the release schedule for oneiric though
[23:14] <hilacha> Sphearion, thank you. i didnt about that
[23:16] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: how do I paste bin? Sorry for my ignorance
[23:16] <BarkingFish> !pastebin | Zacarias
[23:16] <RobotBot> does upgrading remove old apps that are not in the new version?
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> Zacarias: for example: ls -l|pastebinit
[23:17] <recon69_lap> recon69_lap: and if the make is huge just paste the end bit
[23:19] <Zacarias> MonkeyDust: for instance, if I want to paste the output of the terminal, I copy it and then what? Sorry
[23:20] <george> anyone here have fios in NJ?
[23:20] <xpress> guys .. i think i fuc*ed the ubuntu :D .. just sayin :P
[23:21] <pedro> Sou novo, tem alguém do Brasil?
[23:21] <xpress> no pero españoles si k hay :D ^^
[23:22] <Pici> !br | pedro
[23:22] <qin> Zacarias: Native driver Epson SX600FW could be worth trying, unless Printers differ to much.
[23:22] <recon69_lap> Zacarias: paste into pastebin and then give us the resulting link
[23:22] <xpress> pedro is just a bot :D !
[23:23] <Zacarias> qin: I'll try it
[23:23] <artzra> hi
[23:23] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: thanks. I'll do that in a moment and give you the result
[23:24] <artzra> i have install ubuntu near seven
[23:24] <pedro>  estou com um problema, baixei uma livraria que ta no formato .tar.gz, alguem pode me falar como instalo?
[23:24] <artzra> i have lose the dualboot
[23:25] <pedro>  estou com um problema, baixei uma livraria que ta no formato .tar.gz, alguem pode me falar como instalo?
[23:25] <hilacha> pedro, cd /usr/local/src
[23:25] <Pici> !br | pedro
[23:26] <hilacha> mv lib.tar.gz /usr/local/src
[23:26] <hilacha> tar xvfz lib.tar.gz
[23:26] <hilacha> cd lib
[23:26] <hilacha> make
[23:26] <hilacha> make install
[23:26] <FloodBot1> hilacha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26]  * yagoo thinks xar is supposed to succeed tar
[23:27] <pedro> obrigado
[23:27] <yagoo> hilacha, its f before the filename.. --tar xzvf <filename.
[23:27] <pedro> thanks
[23:27] <wenk> question: Is it possible to get 11.04 to stop major updates of firefox ?  I'd like to stick around 6 if I can...
[23:28] <henrik_> how to i join an other server?
[23:28] <yagoo> who's asking this tar question?
[23:28] <yagoo> u dont need to mv the tar.. u can use the -C option..
[23:28] <aeon-ltd> henrik_: that depennds on your irc client
[23:29] <henrik_> aeon_ltd: i just downloaded it from ubuntu software center. xchat - gnome irc chat
[23:30] <D_Russ> i think i will wait a few days before i install 11.10. Now sandra has me a bit worried that me switching to 64 bit will become a problem. maybe i should test it in virtual box first
[23:30] <henrik_> and this my first time using irc in about 10 years
[23:30] <yagoo> henrik_, 2 years or decimal 10 ?
[23:31] <aeon-ltd> henrik_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto#Connecting_to_a_Server
[23:31] <josefig> hello, what is the repository to install gnome-contacts and gnome-sushi ? I upgraded to gnome 3.2 but it says command not found when I try a gnome-contacts
[23:31] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: output for the ./configure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707052/
[23:31] <henrik_> probably not 10 years. perhaps 101 year in binary, if that's what you mean
[23:31] <henrik_> thanks!
[23:32] <artzra> hi, by chance , can y explain how made a dualboot
[23:32] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: next the make output
[23:33] <yagoo> artzra, if windows is installed.. the ubuntu installer adds an entry to the grub menu (sometimes u may need to do manual interevention if its not added properly)
[23:33] <jaimef> Getting Untrusted packages from ppa.launchpad and wonder if adding the right key would avoid this warning
[23:33] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: make
[23:33] <Zacarias> Makefile:15: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[23:33] <almoxarife> jaimef: it will, but the question then becomes, do you trust the key?
[23:34] <artzra> yayoo, i have install a oneric 11.10 and it s just erase winboot
[23:34] <brightspark> Hi all, I'd appreciate assistance getting 'totem' to play youtube videos using the menu in the sidebar.  I get a dialog box saying 'GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.'  Terminal output available; thanks in advance.
[23:34] <henrik_> aeon_ltd: that wasn't very useful . it's  definitely not the same version as i'm using
[23:34] <jaimef> yeah guess kubuntu-ppa could be unstrusted
[23:34] <artzra> #ubuntu+1
[23:34] <henrik_> looks completly different
[23:34] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: output for the make: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707056/
[23:35] <mindsystem> hi, i'm looking to setup a local irc at my school for the computer science students. are there any suggested ircd's for this sort of small scale task? forums didn't seem to have much...
[23:35] <Asurah> Hey folks
[23:36] <yagoo> artzra, u still there?
[23:36] <henrik_> aeon_ltd: but thanks anyway. it's 0135 at night here in norway, so i'm going to bed. i'll figure it out tomorrow
[23:36] <Asurah> Can anyone help with a quite crucial problem?
[23:36] <yagoo> !ask
[23:37] <Asurah> Oh well
[23:39] <Asurah> I'm quite new to Ubuntu, tried to install it today, both 64 and 32bit versions (got a 64bit comp), installation goes on perfectly fine, I press the restart button at the end, take the CD out, but it simply gets stuck in boot
[23:39] <Asurah> i.e after BIOS, before actual OS loads.
[23:40] <recon69_lap> Zacarias: don't look like make did anything, readme for driver not much help. why you compiling, cant you install the pre compiled deb file
[23:41] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: no, I'm running power pc, and the deb packages are for other architectures
[23:41] <almoxarife> Asurah: anything else installed on the pc?
[23:42] <Asurah> almoxarife - I've got two HDD, one is the OS which is formatted before Ubuntu installation, other one is data
[23:42] <Asurah> music, video, the whole shabang
[23:44] <yagoo> can someone verify for me.. if its grub2 or grub1 for the default latest ubuntus?
[23:44] <urist_> hello... I have been trying to run Vim on my Ubuntu and it works fine, but I'm wondering how I can open a GUI Vim
[23:45] <BarkingFish> grub2 for the latest versions, yagoo
[23:45] <almoxarife> Asurah: what type of install disc did you use?
[23:45] <Asurah> almoxarife: I just downloaded the .iso from the official site and burned it on a CD..
[23:47] <almoxarife> Asurah: I would suggest you download the 'alternate' version and redo the install, I have never had issues with a ;alternate' but have had with the 'desktop'
[23:47] <BarkingFish> right peeps I'm out for the night, need my sleep.
[23:48] <Asurah> almoxarife - is there any difference for a beginner user like myself?
[23:49] <almoxarife> Asurah: the install or final desktop?
[23:49] <Asurah> almoxarife - both?
[23:50] <Asurah> is there anything I should know about the install?
[23:50] <Asurah> and is there any differences in user experience between alternate and normal versions?
[23:50] <akem> .pdf thumbs works like a charm on Ubuntu, it's awesome / got somuch troubles to get that on Win7.
[23:50] <recon69_lap> Asurah: well, just burn the .iso and boot from it, then run the hardware tests to see if you got problems before installing
[23:51] <almoxarife> Asurah: same desktop will be avail, the alternate comes with more avail drivers for the install, a good thing. the install menu is the same basic one, I also suggest having the machine hardwired if possible to the internet
[23:52] <Asurah> recon69_lap - what do you mean by hardware tests? how can I have hardware failures installing one OS but have no problems on the other one?
[23:52] <urist_> hello... I have been trying to run Vim on my Ubuntu and it works fine, but I'm wondering how I can open a GUI Vim
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> urist_: vim doesn't have a gui but gvim does
[23:52] <wplug_terryg> Anybody here install vsftpd?
[23:52] <Asurah> almoxarife - think I'll try to run it alongside Windows and see if that works. Then I'll download the entire thing again and try it again
[23:53] <urist_> is gvim the same as Vim but in GUI form?
[23:53] <histo> urist_: yes
[23:53] <almoxarife> Asurah: you said there was no other OS
[23:53] <urist_> cool... thank you
[23:53] <histo> urist_: you can also probably find vim-nogui
[23:53] <histo> urist_: they also have gvim for windows
[23:53] <almoxarife> Asurah: good luck
[23:53] <Asurah> almoxarife - I reinstalled Windows so I could get into the support
[23:54] <urist_> perfect, I do intend to use it both on windows and Linux... thanks histo and aeon-ltd
[23:54] <wplug_terryg> Can anybody help with vsftpd?
[23:54] <Zacarias> qin: I tried several drivers, but I always get the message: Printer 'Epson-Stylus-SX525WD' requires the 'epson-escpr-wrapper' program but it is not currently installed.  Please install it before using this printer.
[23:55] <recon69_lap> Asurah: you can use the live cd to see likely problems before you install anything. just saying you can check first
[23:55] <Asurah> recon69_lap - how can I do that?
[23:55] <histo> !anyone | wplug_terryg
[23:56] <wplug_terryg> Ok
[23:58] <brightspark> Hi all, I'd appreciate assistance getting 'totem' to play youtube videos using the menu in the sidebar.  I get a dialog box saying 'GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.'  Terminal output available; thanks in advance.
[23:58] <wplug_terryg> I'm trying to install vsftpd using this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293.  I'm running into a command not found error. dbxxx_load
[23:58] <Malgorath> http://pastebin.com/n82pVU1x <-- nvidia bug report error. can anyone help me with this, i have so far tried to add modes, change video card from 210 to a 220 reinstalled a few times... getting frustrated
[23:58] <wplug_terryg> I have been searching ubuntuforums and have not found an answer